mac-os🍎

[solemn tartan]

ill just keep it for this update

and see how better it runs

any mistakes and am balling out to CO

[lilac trail]

The native client is a bit more responsive - at least it seems that way to me. My character runs faster and the mouse movement is quicker than the WINE based app (I use Sikarugir but also tested CO, portingkit and even GPTK all by itself). It is the only thing in it I like.

[solemn tartan]

what you recommend bottle type btw

wait wtf

[lilac trail]

Windows 10 or Windows 11. Don’t use the pre-made CO installer. It does not work. Point installer to your downloaded Windows client instead.

[solemn tartan]

i did but the bottle is saying win 7 64bit

making no sense

[lilac trail]

Follow this if you aren’t already - https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Guide:Path_of_Exile_on_Mac_using_Windows_Client

[lilac trail]

Ignore that. That occurs because the crosstie for CO is ancient. I submitted a new one to CO but I don’t know how long it takes to works it’s way into a release

[solemn tartan]

btw what do you do when you get this

nvm try again works

[solemn tartan]

also i just forced it onto win10 64bit

[lilac trail]

I have never seen that in an install of POE within CO. Did you point the installer to your downloaded file or are you using the CO provided link ?

[solemn tartan]

no i downloaded the installer

i selected from files

[lilac trail]

You can ignore that - that is for games that use older versions of DirectX (the DirectX for modern games)

[solemn tartan]

the directX for modern games?

[atomic herald]

u dont have to uninstall if u have space on your hd, u can have all different kinds installed and change between on different icons

[solemn tartan]

why would i have the same thing 2 times

[atomic herald]

i have both steam and standalone installed, cause i check inbetween

[solemn tartan]

isnt steam also fucked? @lilac trail

[lilac trail]

Yeap but Piratika knows that. They live in hope 😀

[atomic herald]

and if u want to test crossover - i mean u dont have to delete the standalone native - if u want to check how it works after next update

[atomic herald]

i check it inbetween to see if friends are online on steam 😛

[solemn tartan]

we all hope but am going to use the best one now then i can switch later

[solemn tartan]

stalker

[lilac trail]

Can you check options in the login screen of the Steam client and see if multi-threading is still disabled

[atomic herald]

i do that next time!

i will for sure after the update

[solemn tartan]

do i turn on high res mode?

[lilac trail]

Use the conversation thread I started rather than using the general chat channel for this

The answer is no to Hi Res

[solemn tartan]

my bad

[atomic herald]

i cant see my golems, how many i have, i can have 5 of them, i see 2 black spots up to the left with 3 on one and no number on the other black, so what one is what golem?
dont know how i put pictures on the forum...

[solemn tartan]

its running good fr but one thing the game seems pixelated compared to native?

see the diff? (fixed by turning on high rez mode)

this feels good though

[solemn tartan]

btw bob have you test PoE2 on mac?

i might have the urge to test the wasd controllers lol

[lilac trail]

Yes. Currently there is no native Mac client. You can only run the Windows client using either Crossover or Sikarugir. Other WINE based apps do not work. The game is currently in EA and they have not released all the acts afaik, so performance is hard to assess. I played when there were only the first 3 acts. It performed fine.

[solemn tartan]

yeah ik its on EA should i wait till release then?

i wonder how long till then

[lilac trail]

There is no point playing POE2 if you have yet to finish POE. Although they are similar there are a number of differences in the mechanics of each. You can play POE2 without ever having played the original. In some respects it is better to have played only POE2. Old timers like me, have mixed opinions on POE2. TLDR - don't like POE2. Others feel it is a breath of fresh air.
POE2 is NOT free unless you have met the lifetime spend thresh hold (over $480 USD since POE started), otherwise it will cost $30. It is not worth paying for in it's current state. Others will beg to differ for sure.
It will be in EA for a long time - at least a year - maybe 2 or more. Not that unusual. Just focus on POE.

[solemn tartan]

i see

thanks

[proud igloo]

If you've got the $30 to spend or a buddy that wants to give you a spare EA key, give it a try.
There was also a free weekend for the launch of 0.3.0 in late August, you could keep an eye out if there's more in the future.

It's a different but similar game, some people are more entrenched than others 😉

If you want to see and influence how it evolves over time, getting in while it's in EA could be worth it - there's definitely memories and community experiences formed already.

The release schedule is like PoE1, around every four months at a two month separation from the other game.

[atomic herald]

oh thats a smart tactic, for ppl that play both kinds, first month is most fun 🤓

[proud igloo]

The EA pack also comes with 300 MTX points, so it's not just a key but useful if you want to grab some MTX but the other supporter packs don't interest you.

[proud igloo]

Yeah, it's been in effect since April I think, with some variation on whether it's early or late in the months but still managing to launch on even numbered months.

[vapid venture]

How is PoE1 on Mac now? any update? This is one of the games holding me to windows still and Id like to break away if I can.

[old sequoia]

In my opinion, you'll be stuck with Windows. I doubt that Linux or macOS will replace most devices on Steam within 10 years.
I play on a MacBook m4max. I get a smooth 50-90 fps in ultra mode on the native client.
I also have a desktop computer, which runs on rtx3070ti on average. My friend has a laptop with rtx3060, and games run poorly on it. He has problems with drivers and the system all the time.
In my opinion, game and software developers simply need to stop supporting Windows. As long as a lot of these programs are released for the dangerous Windows system, nothing will change in this regard. Personally, I would like to see Linux and macOS become the most important players on the operating system market. I don't want a monopoly like the one Nvidia has, because it's not healthy for users.

[vapid venture]

yeah, I have an M4 Pro 24 Pro or whatever they call it. I love it. I just can't switch over fully because i game too much. the other issue (not POE related) is I dont have a dock that can support my ultrawide 3440x1440 at 120hz with my other 2560x1440 also running at a reasonable rate. I havent fgured that magic out and I dont want to drop 300 bucks on a caldigit dock.

Ive considered doing some kind of KVM so I can throw monitors/peripherals between Laptop/Desktop so I can bounce between work and gaming, but i haven't found a good solution for that.

[solemn tartan]

well then you want to give monopoly to apple which is worse lol

best case is linux if the porting to other systems is easy

[solemn tartan]

use better display app

[proud igloo]

High resolution with high refresh is the gift that just keeps on giving, regardless of platform.

[vapid venture]

I have not tested this previously. I'll have to give it a whirl when I get home.

[old sequoia]

Apple is more secure than Windows. You want a monopoly on Linux. I believe that a monopoly by a single system is harmful, even if it had an unlimited number of distributions. You didn't understand what I meant.

[vapid venture]

with Better Display, i assume i'd want the ultrawide connected directly to the macbook via HDMI and my 2560 can be connected to the dock?

[solemn tartan]

Well shit code isn't the same for any platform so one must take monopoly and it should be the one that's the easiest and most efficient in porting to other systems

[solemn tartan]

Yeah since dock can usually detect the 2560 one

Check the docs and everything it's pretty simple to use I think

[vapid venture]

They get detected, its just the ultrawide seems to get capped.

[proud igloo]

I had a cow-orker back at the university that was immune to refresh rate degradation.
They ran a 4k display at 30 Hz off their laptop; I couldn't look directly at it.

[vapid venture]

I'll check for sure. thanks grizz

[proud igloo]

HDMI/DP limitations are great fun.

[vapid venture]

yeah, if i could get them both on my little ugreen dock that would be nice

less plugging and unplugging you know

[molten moth]

can someone refer me to the best settings for poe 2 on mac?

also, the wiki says to not use the steam client on crossover but I have had no issues. Can anyone confirm that using the native client on crossover is better?

[lilac trail]

You can’t use the Mac steam client for POE2 - it doesn’t exist. I’m assuming you mean for POE. The Mac Steam client for POE has multi-threading disabled . No-one has yet to confirm this is not still the case afaik. The Steam client also had severe errors with updates and logins. It was not consistent.

By native client on Crossover I assume you mean the Windows client. Yes it runs better. No hiccups with updates, no graphics issues. No FPS cap.

[proven tundra]

hey guys, new to mac, any tips on which method to use to get best results?
im checking wiki, should i use Sikarugir?

[lilac trail]

If you own Crossover use that (they also have a yearly sale on Cyber Monday). Use Sikarugir if you are unable to buy Crossover. There isn't much of a performance difference between the 2 imho. Crossover is a commercial product, so has official support channels. Sikarugir has a discord channel where community members informally provide support to other users where possible. Both are fine.

[vapid venture]

you remember what the sale price was on cyber monday? I might pick it up then.

[lilac trail]

Last year is was 50%. A year or two prior it was 70%.

[vapid venture]

ty. fingers crossed I guess.

[dusk haven]

Hey not sure if this is what was discussed earlier but patchnotes says "Added native Apple Silicon support for macOS, Intel Mac users will continue to receive full support." Does that potentially mean we will be better using native Mac version of poe1 or is crossover gonna still be supperior ? m4 here.

[proud igloo]

The macOS client has had native Apple Silicon executables for a while now, not sure how long exactly.

[dusk haven]

yea but it sucked. fps tripled on the same mac when using crossover instead. Wondering is that line in the patchnotes suggest an update to that.

[proud igloo]

You could probably verify it by looking at whether the dropdown isn't greyed out, but I believe it's been re-enabled since quite a while.

[lilac trail]

I don’t use Steam so I can’t tell. It would be good to know so the wiki can be updated.

[proud igloo]

I wonder if I have enough disk space to try 😄

[molten moth]

I meant windows steam client for poe 2 through crossover. So my question is still the same: can anyone confirm issues doing this method versus using the standalone client through crossover?

[proud igloo]

I remembered to install PoE1 from native Steam \o/
Just gotta wait for the 50-some gigs to land over the Interwebs now.

It's nice that Steam lets you pick storage libraries on any volume.

[proud igloo]

@lilac trail With it on, PoE1 is at around 90-105% CPU in Activity Monitor. With it off, it's around 46%.

[proud igloo]

This on a 4k screen with a M1 Mini, running at like 14 FPS on a frame time of 79ms, not sure if it had finished obtaining shaders or not.

[lilac trail]

Thanks zao - this is the native Steam client for Mac, not the Windows client right ?

[proud igloo]

Correct.

[atomic herald]

the multithreading lower the fps rate?

[neon flare]

Pretty sure the macOS client has always been using Rosetta. Definitely true as of Dec 2024 (https://www.macgamerhq.com/games/path-of-exile-mac/)

[proud igloo]

Framerate is roughly the same on this potato.
Multithreading is reported to use more CPU which is a good thing as it uses more cores for tasks, getting them done quicker.

[proud igloo]

I don't know the timeline but it has silently been in there for a while, probably as long as the black icon problem.

[solemn tartan]

i gave up on the macos client

the windows on crossover

works amazing

[neon flare]

Yeah I'm pretty happy with the crossover performance, especially once I switched to the DX12 renderer and stopped getting shader stutter

Awakened works fine, too, though its appearance is a bit glitchy until you manually resize the windows

[wet nymph]

If anyone is trying native I'll be interested to hear perf. I will probably also try at some point but I didn't notice that there was a native client until now so I'll start on kegworks

[lilac trail]

The native client is only for POE. I would not use it right now unless the icon issue has been resolved. Also Kegworks has been replaced with Sikarugir. You should upgrade at some stage.

[light glen]

is there any easy way to transfer my files off the kegworks bottle to Sikarugir without having to do a full reinstall? seems my bottle finally died

[solemn tartan]

did they fix the native icons on this update?

[lilac trail]

Yes - you can install Sikarugir and leave Kegworks in place. Go to the Sikarugir discord channel. There is a guide to migrating bottles in the installation-guides section. You can get help there if you get stuck. The discord link is on the Sikarugir github page (which should be on the wiki page pinned in this channel too)

[lilac trail]

No idea if it is fixed or not. Will need to wait till the league is live - which should be shortly

[proud igloo]

It's been live for 52 min.

[solemn tartan]

am playing

but on crossover

[proud igloo]

DST victim? 😄

[lilac trail]

Yeap

Plus I'm doing other stuff - my brain can't partition into doing multiple things, let along multiple things done well 🤣

[proud igloo]

9.01 gig patch on macOS Standalone

[solemn tartan]

FAILED TO DEFEND ALITH

NOOOO

too much damage wtf

and i am just at the mud flats

[proud igloo]

Fix seems live:

[lilac trail]

I saw that ... I logged in using the NEW Apple Silicon mac standalone client - the icons are back ! Delve also looks to be functional. FPS is not pretty - 43FPS standing at the entrance to the mines

[proud igloo]

Mine is still churning shaders, probably will for a good bit.

[lilac trail]

I might try a few maps this weekend and see how it goes. Interestingly - in my HO I get 60FPS

and my HO is very busy

So maybe we can think about using the Mac client (standalone and Steam) again. Will see if there are still those annoying graphics glitches, but looks promising. Greater FPS would be nice but I can live with 45FPS in fights. Enjoy the league everyone !

[solemn tartan]

dude

why is it so hard to defend ailith

[solemn tartan]

bob i have an issue on CO version, it like blocks

i start walking and it just freezes then goes on

see

[opal helm]

What method can I use to get the best performance from M1?

except CO

[solemn tartan]

why not CO?

[opal helm]

I live in Turkey and the dollar exchange rate is quite high FeelsBadMan

[steady aurora]

Then follow the wiki steps to get the game working via Sikarugir

[solemn tartan]

i wanna get a cosmetic so bad lol

itching

where can i buy full packs like full set cosmetic armor

supportet packs seem to be the best value for buck

[lilac trail]

The only place you can make purchases is via the in-game button or the shop on the GGG site

[old sequoia]

macos native i have long loading. better is 3.26

[neon flare]

macOS client seems capped at 60 FPS

And turning off vsync/triple buffering crashes the F out of it so hard it won't reopen until you delete your user settings

[formal mauve]

Has anyone using CO been experiencing crashes with Wine while playing? had it happen a couple of times now

Also how has the performance been with the native client with the new update? I gave up using it after the trash performance during settlers.

[viscid trail]

macOS client is very laggy to me, low fps while at breaches.
crossover is actually worse somehow
am playing with 9 fps sometimes ;=;

[solemn tartan]

the only issue i had is network lag

aside from that game is going brrrr

macpro m4 pro

[atomic herald]

what u mean with brrr? good or bad? 👀

[solemn tartan]

brrr 120 FPS on medium settings

[atomic herald]

on mac os native client?

[solemn tartan]

ofc not

CO

[atomic herald]

well that was the question...

[solemn tartan]

u should just use CO

[atomic herald]

u answered a question about how the performance been with the native client - that i mean - lol

[atomic herald]

u could be misunderstood there 😜

[solemn tartan]

myaw

[atomic herald]

it is better than settlers, delve works now, and the skills arent black, but still low fps as usual

[formal mauve]

Thanks for the insights. Appreciate it.

[lilac trail]

The native mac client - in standalone, and I assume Mac Steam, is capped at 60FPS. I have seen it at 70FPS in my HO when they first broke delve (so at least 2-3 releases ago). It now seems back to its old self and won’t go above 60 FPS.

Since none of us have the source code for the client I can only speculate (as others have) that hard coding an FPS is the simplest method of determining FPS for a mac client 🤔

[gloomy gulch]

Should I set the frame rate to 60fps on my m2 macbook air? I'm using this since I'm moving soon.

[proven tundra]

guys, is anyone playing on mac able to use awakened or any other software?

[red hare]

hmmm Azurite III nodes still gems or other worthless stuff here..... hmpf... at least i am able to play at all after yesterday :o)

[proud igloo]

Hotfix 7 has this line:

Fixed Delve rewards not matching what was displayed on the chart.

[half horizon]

Is pob not loading on the mac? The website won't open.

[atomic herald]

what was it with vsync? i had it off, and i tested on and it... stands on rolling small ball pointer thinking forever 🥴

i had to make force quit

[atomic herald]

so, i have problems already in act 3 on the breaches, the last explosion when it is done, is too much for the processor to process, takes a minute and i have this screen, the fire moves but i cant move until after a while, this is mac native standalone on M1 max - macstudio

[lilac trail]

At 3FPS no game is playable. The other stat is ridiculously high as well. Where are the other stats ? Those will show network latency amongst other things. It looks like either a gateway or a network issue. Try another gateway to see how that goes.

[atomic herald]

its after that last explosion when breach is completed, and it has happened 3 times now, the processor needs to think for almost a minute and then i can move again

[lilac trail]

A lot of action on screen will drop your FPS but that seems extreme. I hope everything was dead before the animation ran

[formal mauve]

Yeah I can use awaken. If you're running into to the permissions issues you have to do this to get it to launch.

[formal mauve]

That's unfortunate. I've been able to make it to mapping using CO but ive had a few crashes with Wine while playing. This could be related to me having an older version of CO though.

[gloomy gulch]

what is your settings?

[atomic herald]

all on lowest as i know of, native mac standalone (i am stubborn) M1 max studio, the only thing i dont get to work is the vsync - cant put that on it seems like, i have it off and if i try on the game gets stuck on small ball of processing on pointer

[gloomy gulch]

I have the vsync on locked but I’ll try lowering the settings. It’s my first time playing on my MacBook

[atomic herald]

i can show the settings

[gloomy gulch]

Thank you I will try it out

[atomic herald]

and yea, i got help from Bob to find out that it is the "transparency" that u have to put to highest to see the full list of performance metrics, i had forgot how to put that one on, if i wanted to see it, but it is disturbing so i took it off again

[gloomy gulch]

can't turn off the vsync unless I get the loading rainbow circle, so i'll leave it as locked

[atomic herald]

yea i wanted to turn it on - lol, so u maybe have it better that way

[gloomy gulch]

but all in all, everything is running smoothly

[lilac trail]

It is on by default is it not ? You can’t turn it off - for reasons unknown to me 🤷🏼‍♂️

[atomic herald]

i must have turned it off somehow in the past 👀

or it is fake that info lol

[atomic herald]

so i might fixed it, first i could put to locked, same as Anonymous, then i tested off again, and got stucked on rainbow circle, and made force quit - then i restarted and tested the default adaptive - and it saved! this on the first login screen, not logged in game. So lets see if any difference now.

[lilac trail]

I have default adaptive on. I thought you were trying to take it off - which does not appear to be possible

[atomic herald]

yea i had the opposite - i could not put it on, but it worked if i tricked it that way 👀
(if u see my settings on pict above it seem to be off)

[atomic herald]

i managed to turn the vsync ON now! yay - i think that is best option
(u helped me there, i had to make it on locked between, then i could put on adaptive!)

[fossil dock]

I notice interesting thing - if any electron based application open when I start PoE via Crossover in HiDPI mode, PoE failed to start

[brave trail]

Has anyone been randomly crashing while using sikarugir? It’s been happening kinda often for me but I’m also using a m1 Mac so that might be the problem instead

[oblique swift]

Ugh seems like the mac client crashes every time I log in

[proven tundra]

could you please help me a bit more? i have tried this and it still doesnt work, even followed the forum instructions to use terminal to fix permission issues

[brave trail]

does anyone have the terminal command to force update awakened poe trade? Cant find it anywhere

[scenic belfry]

Is pob out for 3.27???

[lilac trail]

So what am I missing here - it appears the level 20 would be better than a level 21 gem, which feels weird ...

[proud igloo]

The added range is from the quality on the 20/20 vs. the 21/0.
Everything else is bigger on the 21 - more area damage, base radius, attack damage of base% up top, added damage effectiveness.

[lilac trail]

I understand some of the stats are larger - the bottom one though - the lightning radius is smaller on the level 21 - which means your targets have to be in a tighter group no ?

[proud igloo]

If you had a 21/20, it'd be better or equal in all regards.

If you show advanced tooltips, you can separate the contribution of quality from the base gem level stats.

[lilac trail]

Ah ok - I'm shopping on the trade site. I have been away from the game so long there is new stuff on trade I'm not familiar with like the instant buyout - if this gets me an item without chasing 100 people and I just have to cough up some gold for the trade, as well as the actual purchase price, then that is a nice QoL (did I mention I've not been active for quite a while ....) 👍

[proud igloo]

Async trade is indeed a godsend.

[lilac trail]

Prices seem more expensive for the privilege though (not the gold amount, the actual currency) but that may have just been the timeframe I was looking at them in. Back to rebuilding broken builds in Std because GGG just can't let us have a good thing for too long 🙂

[proud igloo]

Prices on in-person trade may also be lower because of listings from people who don't care about selling for the price anyway.

[fossil dock]

Looks like PoB for PoE1 got updated UI render... new one - looks really cool

[lilac trail]

I’ve been using it the last few days - cultural philistine that I am I have not noticed apart from the fact it all works as per usual 😀

[lilac trail]

A question about omen of blanching - it states when consumed the next chromatic orb will randomly roll 1-3 white sockets. I need to replace a blue socket which is at the end of a 6L chest.
If I recall I can apply chromatics and hope by some miracle all sockets become red, which I need. But then I'd likely have other random colours
Another option is to remove the 6th socket and roll it again and hope for a red, but then I'd have to break the 6L and reforge it afterwards
Any other ideas/suggestions ?

[fossil dock]

don't break 6L!!!! chromatic + omen, if it's fails change colors via benchi

[lilac trail]

Yeah - it felt bad to even consider busting a 6L but had to mention it.

Can you use Omen more than once and how exactly do I use it and the chromatic ?

[full temple]

does steam work for mac this patch ?

[lilac trail]

Both the native Mac clients seem to be working. Keep in mind they are FPS capped - you won’t get above 60FPS and it will be much lower in juiced content.

[fossil dock]

After using omen you can use chromatic again

[lilac trail]

OK - so I can buy a few Omens and roll 'em and see what happens then. I assume I keep the gear in inventory, consume the Omen, then apply a chromatic and 🤞 Repeat process if it doesn't work first time till I an tired of using Omens and then put it in bench and change colour and hope for 6R that way.

[proud igloo]

Note that omens generally are limited to one per combat area, not sure how/if that extends to crafting ones.

[lilac trail]

That is what the text on the omen says. I only tried one and it did not work out for me - so I'm either slamming jeweller orbs (I've already used about 5k of them) to get that 6th socket red or I can go craft another, better base that already has the colours I need. Either way it won't be fun as we know it - and likely expensive either way - just like GGG intended 🤣

[edgy jacinth]

what's the latest tech on boosting fps? i just switched to kinectic bolt and my mac can't keep up anymore - tons of dropped frames and freezing. i dropped upscale mode to bilinear, water detail to low, and texture quality to medium, along with dynamic culling to enabled. it definitely makes the game look worse visually, but the stuttering and freezing are still happening

i'm using crossover

[true pollen]

I'm trying to switch from Steam to Crossover but I'm having trouble getting PoE 1 to run. I have used the pinned guide. I'm having trouble finding relevant recent articles do to so much discussion of PoE 2. Anyone using crossover to run PoE1, any tips and tricks to get it working?

I am on an M1 Macbook Pro, 2021

I have 1)Installed and updates CrossOver to latest version. 2) Installed the PathoOf Exile client into a Windows 11 (64 bit) bottle. 3) Enabled D3DMetal and Msync. and 4) added the DISPLAY and device_type=DirectX12 lines to the (otherwise blank) production_Config.ini file. The game starts to launch but immediately closes from just a black screen and provides no error message.

Edit: nevermind. Solution - don't have a typo in your config file. Still works.

[atomic herald]

I changed some in my options ingame, so it is almost playable now on standalone.
I have Mac Studio M1 Max, macOS Sequoia, 32 gb ram, and this in graphic settings:

I change there when i am on the login window, where i chose the gateway, then i dont get that thinking ball on the cursor.

what i changed was: triple buffering - Disabled
and: Upscale Mode - Bilinear
Maybe the last patch helped, i dont know, and i have installed the TGPro to help me with the fan cooling.

I still get rly low fps, 4-5 on breach fights, but it dont hang up totally. I could make my first Fortress 🤓 but ripped at the end ofc, how to get out of it when done?

[proud igloo]

There is one open path out, you can see on the minimap near you where blockages are with icons.

[atomic herald]

well. i still get stuck like this 👀 on a breach

then i cant move for a while, (the network 50ms is normal when i play on London gate from sweden)

[fossil dock]

Wow... Why your CPU so slow... Do you close everything before start Poe?

[lilac trail]

That CPU time is generally a reflection of trying to process game information - either there is a bug in breach (which everyone would be screaming about ) or it’s a local issue (time for a system upgrade 😀)

[atomic herald]

it is only in breaches that i get these hang ups

and yea, i have browser and discord on as well, and they work fine even when poe gets this stuck

i have too many minions on my necro maybe 😜

[bleak yarrow]

Hey does any one use crossover over on the Mac to play poe 1 I am trying to use controller on my Mac but doesn’t have options for it any one have a solution?

[scenic belfry]

How do I get pob for 3.27????

I couldn’t find it anywhere

[lilac trail]

Its on the website - plus if you have a previous version installed it will tell you there is an update and you can just update it

[atomic herald]

i dont find where to update it, i have a mac version, i mean on the one i have

and i understand zero on https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding

[atomic herald]

anyway i have had less lag recently, phew

[proud igloo]

I assume you're using the macOS adaptation by arciinus from posts like https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3009944, which doesn't seem to have kept up with the recent runtime changes.
There's a bunch of hackfix attempts by exiles in the thread but it seems like a losing battle.

[lilac trail]

Yes - the Mac port is old and stale. It was a valiant attempt but running the Windows version of PoB and PoB2 in a WINE based app is way better. How to do so is on the wiki - the link to which is of course in the pinned message section

[edgy jacinth]

On launching PoE 1 via CrossOver, which worked fine previously, I'm now getting a "Disconnected from patching server before patching completed. Try again" error, which I've never seen. Anyone else get/have ideas on how to solve?

I'll attempt a full re-install in a sec, but trying to avoid re-downloading the whole thing if possible

Oh lol I randomly opened during a server restart

HOLY - "Breach Hive Fortress encounters will now contain a skill that destroys all the walls around Ailith, available from the start of the encounter."

[lilac trail]

If I have 2 spare suffixes can I bench craft 2 suffixes or only 1 and the other will be an eldritch exalt and pray ?

[elder hill]

Is it just me, or is the Mac port of Awakened PoE really bad at estimating the value of rares?

[proud igloo]

Unless meta modifiers modify it, you can only have one crafted mod on an item.

[lilac trail]

Is there a way to send items purchased from Faustus straight to your currency tab instead of incrementally to inventory then to currency tab ?

[slow hatch]

Hello everyone, i know this question has been send a fiew time on this channel but i coud'nt find any answers. Is there a possibility to use an overlay on POE1 while playing via Crossover ?

[old sequoia]

For me, this application is so broken that I can't start it normally because errors occur. I have to start it from the terminal by entering the admin password then it works normally

[glacial vault]

What time does the cyber Monday sale on crossover happen?

What time zone

[lilac trail]

I would assume EST timezone since they are based in North America. It could be 12:01 or it might be 8am EST. If rumours are to be believed the discount will be north of 50% - hopefully on both the single and the lifetime options.

[glacial vault]

Wow!! Bought it! $8.50

[lilac trail]

Yes - and renewals at this time of year are near 50% off, so next year you'll get a large discount off renewing (renewals are not discount beyond the 50% off during the year so buying and renewing on Cyber Monday is always a good idea).

[lilac trail]

Are Runecrafts not yet supported in PoB - I can see Grafted but the drop down doesn't work.

[forest horizon]

Hello guys, can I play POE2 on the macbook m4? Does it work well?

I didn't have good experiences with the crossover

[lilac trail]

You can only play POE2 via CO or Skiarugir. Not sure what you mean by not having a good experience with CO. It works fine

[lilac trail]

Been testing the native client (the Intel standalone) and the Windows client for POE1. GGG fixed some things in the native client so it is more usable now, however the native client seems to have a new issue, at least new for me.

The native client suffers from significant lag. I encounter this in both the HO and in maps (T16). These are 8 mod corrupted maps but they are no where near juiced to cause such an issue. I waited several minutes and was never able to return to the session. I have to exit out to character selection and rejoin the instance. I don't die - I'm just stuck.

This doesn't happen when using the Windows based client. I've not looked on the forums to see if anyone else is reporting the same issue. It's not network related, nor is it gateway related. I can rejoin the same instance, on the same gateway via Windows client and not experience any issues.

Curious if anyone is seeing the same issues with the native client (either the standalone of the Steam based one). Maybe the Apple Silicon native app does not have the same issue - will need to see if I can overwrite my current native standalone with the new version (or maybe it doesn't matter).

[narrow turret]

anyone running POE2 on the new Macbook pro m5?

[lilac trail]

Anyone got a decent guide to follow regarding the whole Kingsmarch thing - I've played it but since it is now part of Standard I figure I might as well try it out

[lilac trail]

Refresh my memory - the network portion of the graph - is that the GGG servers or is that my network ?

[edgy jacinth]

This reddit guide for 50m shipments seems good to me: https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1pdf66u/kingsmarch_50m_shipment_guide/

But depends what you want to get out of it

[lilac trail]

I have no clue what Kingsmarch is, or what I could get out of it. It might be more of a pain to manage than it is worth but the first step is to figure out what it's all about. This might be a good starting point. Then I can decide whether I should just continue to ignore it or set something up and see how it goes. Currency is always nice but not if it is going to be a PITA to manage 🤔

Is there also one for setting up map runners ?

[lilac trail]

If I have not yet set up anything in Kingsmarch is it worth the effort to mine ore deposits in maps I come across, or is it not stored till you actually setup Kingsmarch (so I might as well ignore them for now).

[atomic herald]

did u figure that out? 🤓

i mean most ppl do leagues and have it already unlocked

[lilac trail]

Not yet. I am running around Delve in Std at the moment - level 650 and cruising. Once I hit a hard stop there I’ll take a break and look into Kingsreach more.

[proud igloo]

Whenever you interact with a ore node it goes on a pile to be mined, you don't need to frontload miners.
Miners then process their configured ore first and then runs on any slack.
You could and should use the nodes in areas for monsters, bonuses/maluses, and getting ore for later.

[atomic herald]

I think i figured out a quickfix!
I am on macOS Sequoia, mac Studio M1 max, 32 GB ram (and native mac standalone poe1) and in a breach i can get the game frozen on 400 ms and 2 fps, because there are too much happening on the screen. I have earlier waited for 1 hour some times to get it fix itself, and every time surprised that i didnt rip, or game didnt crash.
Now i figured that if i minimize the game - the graphic solves and i can continue in the breach again. I play in windowed so i just use the yellow dot (between close window and fullscreen), and back again, and problem solved it seems like, at least 3 times now. 🤓

[atomic herald]

4th time, did not really work 🥴
Well, not that fast as earlier. And some later in a fortress, it got almost frozen but not totally, and when i minimized, i ripped ofc, by the door out...
So yea, it dont always solve it, but when not that heavy graphic time, it can help.

[fossil dock]

I think we need to wait some performance patch like for PoE2... after I got nimis to my molten strike of Zen and change 'returning prodg' to GMP... perfomance become really terrible on my M3 Max 64 (40c)

[forest horizon]

All settings on low, Mac Air M4 24GB, using CrossOver, makes it impossible to play. Do you have anything to recommend? Does anyone use it?

[atomic herald]

i would be happy with that numbers, as i wrote above - when in breaches i get 400 ms and 2 fps ... then it is impossible to even move and my trick is to minimize the game until i get some ms/ fps back again. Have u tested to paus the game and see if it goes down/up to playable again?

[forest horizon]

Yes, that's when I'm standing in my hideout, hahah.

[forest horizon]

But I've talked to people who say they're running at 120fps, I'm waiting for them to reply to see if it's a configuration issue.

[atomic herald]

in my hideout i have like that as well, but in a map on a safe spot, when all mobs taken:

that is native mac-standalone version

all npc in hideout is doing it

[lilac trail]

Are you running POE1 or POE2 ? FPS above 100 using Crossover or Sikarugir is possible in POE1 but not POE2. On a MB Air I doubt you will achieve anything near that, even with an M4.

Your screenshot showed the Shader bar doing a lot of work. It shouldn’t continue to be full like that, regardless where you are in the game after you have logged in. If that is always like that then you could clear shader cache and have it rebuild.

[proud igloo]

One reason for the shader bar to light up is when shaders are being compiled.

[lilac trail]

That should only happen once per area and then settle back down yes ?

[proud igloo]

Kind of depends on how much the driver (and in the Wine:d Mac case, all the intermediary layers) spends on creating pipelines.

[forest horizon]

POE2, I see. I guess there's no way around it then.

[lilac trail]

Probably not but what are your graphics settings - are you using NIS or FSR ? Do you have Global Illumination+ on ? Some people have reported different performance if they use NIS and some have better performance using FSR. There may be some settings to adjust that will get you a few more FPS.

Also - can you ask those people who mentioned they are getting 120 FPS if they are doing so in POE1 or POE2. If POE2 it would be interesting to know what their system specs are and the graphics settings being used.

[atomic herald]

i am sry, u didnt say what kind of poe u played and i thought u ment poe1, i didnt say that either 🥴

[remote solstice]

dude the breaches absolutely kill my frams

especially with mtx on i had to disable my mtx

[forest horizon]

It was probably a lie because the person doesn't respond to me anymore hahah

I can't play at 20fps, unfortunately I'll wait for it to come out for macOS.

I'll stay at poe1 for now :(.

[cursive radish]

it works smoothly using sikarugir / kegworks for me

[forest horizon]

How many fps on maps?

What is your configuration? I have an M4 Air with 24 GB of RAM.

[cursive radish]

m4 16gb RAM with upscaling 55-60 fps steady

upsacled to FHD

[forest horizon]

wtff

[cursive radish]

i use D3D to metal translator

[forest horizon]

Me too, but I used it with the crossover.

[cursive radish]

i see whats your fps ?

[forest horizon]

40fps-

with all configs low and fsr

[cursive radish]

resolution?

all low for me too

[forest horizon]

1920x1080 maybe

I uninstalled it, I don't remember, but it came as standard.

[cursive radish]

hmm cause aair has 2k display i think

mine is 56% upscaling or base resolution to 1080

[forest horizon]

Hmm, I'll try that. I'll reinstall it. Thank you.

[cursive radish]

np , gl

[lilac trail]

As I mentioned try changing upscale mode from NIS to FSR and see if that helps. I don’t think anything else will be material

[forest horizon]

It stays the same, changing by an average of 5 fps.

But thank you

[glacial vault]

the game just wouldnt load for me after the patch, in fact slowed my mac down

using crossover

[lilac trail]

Since you now own Crossover you can download the preview version and try it on that. The preview version has a number of updates and fixes. It is also using the latest GPTK where as v25.1.1 is using GPTK2.1 at the moment

[glacial vault]

Preview version of CO?

[lilac trail]

There is. It is a separate app. You do not need to setup bottles again. It will use existing ones. It will also have extra configuration options such as DLSS. You access it through your account I think. It is basically a precursor to the next major release of CO for those who don’t want to wait for the fully certified next release. It will run some games better than the current version but it can also break games that used to run. You just go back to using the normal CO version when that happens. It might help with POE2. Can’t say as I haven’t played POE2 is quite a while now.

[cursive radish]

hmm , whats your fps in campaign ?

im suspecting some kind of throttling ? settings are almost same

let me get to maps in 0.4 and see how it performs

[forest horizon]

Apparently, in the campaigns, I don't know if it's because of the update, but it got better.

But I can't do it anymore, I got used to him being handsome, hahah. ugly and low fps is sad.

[cursive radish]

haha

[lilac trail]

Not sure if anyone knows the answer but when you defeat Aul you have access to additional passives in your ascendancy tree or you can add something from Aul’s ascendancy passives if I understand correctly.

I killed Aul and agreed to take a passive but did not select one - from Aul or my characters passives. I don’t see any passive points I can allocate so does that mean you have to select something before you leave the crystal altar or the passive points are lost or can I just allocate them even though I can’t see any passive points to use ?

[shadow violet]

I was previously using kegworks last year. Have tried to switch to sikaugir but the wrapper isnt launching.

[lilac trail]

That screenshot doesn’t really help much. What actually happens when you try to launch the game ?

[shadow violet]

Nothing. Ill try to start again and delete everything

[lilac trail]

I would try the config file replacement trick first

[shadow violet]

The test run is finishing very fast, I dont think its downloading the 80GB? but I had that already so maybe its cached somewhere

oh its doing it now after unchecking the 3d to metal option

[lilac trail]

The test run is finishing because it isn't reading the Production_config.ini file. Take a look at the wiki page for using Sikarugir or Crossover and trying the options there. - you either rename the ini file and start the game or you download a blank one from the link.

OK - I tried asking a question in the POE Windows forum but it's just 2 people spouting nonsense. No-one else seems t obe home there. So I'll post here instead. How do I get the 2 flask attributes in the filters section so I can search for only flasks with these attributes ?

Oh - I figured it out - you add in the opposite - increased duration and give it a negative number. How weird ....

[shadow violet]

Im on an M3 but the game doesnt launch with the Direct3D to Metal enabled, only with it off, which seems counter to the instructions for M series macs?

[lilac trail]

It is - you need D3Dmetal for it to run. You don’t provide any details like what program you are using, which would help. You don’t say which POE is the issue. Also saying the program doesn’t launch isn’t useful either.

[lilac trail]

Looks like a video card issue. A screenshot tells us almost nothing. No idea what program you are using, what your system is or anything else that would be useful to help troubleshoot.
If this is the native MacOS then raise a forum post with GGG. If it is using Crossover make a post in the CO discord. If using Sikarugir, make a support post there. Include the information asked for when posting in Sikarugir, otherwise you’ll get ignored.

[shadow violet]

@lilac trail sorry. POE2 with Sikarugir.

Ticking the D3DMetal in configure doesn't run. Nothing checked and the DXMT options both run. Performance is okay but feels just unplayable (lag spikes) and feels worse than when I ran it before using kegworks.

[shadow violet]

Test run with D3DMetal says:

Assertion failed: (GFXTHandle && "Failed to dlopen D3DMetal"), function D3DRMDispatch_Init_block_invoke, file shared.mm, line 1342.

[clever forge]

hi, i can give u those details in a bit away from the system rn. im using steam. thanks for the response.

[lilac trail]

Did you rename the Production_config.ini file and try starting game with D3DMetal enabled ? You can also download a template file which will be empty and then run the game. That is mentioned in the wiki - the link to that is in pinned messages

[lilac trail]

Does anyone know how to access the Atlas tree configuration in a URL - I don't want to have to open the game, access the tree and then export if 1 passive point at a time in to poeplanner.com

[fossil dock]

My chatgpt say:

PoE1: Yes — GGG provides official JSON exports for both trees:
• grindinggear/atlastree-export (Atlas Passive Tree)
• grindinggear/skilltree-export (Character Passive Tree)
You can also decode/encode the Atlas tree “share link” (base64url format) to restore selected nodes.

PoE2: No official Atlas Tree JSON/export/API at the moment (GGG docs say PoE2-specific exports aren’t available yet).

[lilac trail]

The question is how do I get the export - there is no mechanism I can see and there is a note on poeplanner that GGG discontinued the ability to export, so maybe ChatGPT is using old information.

[proud igloo]

The nice thing about atlas trees is as they're viewed on the website for PoE1, you can't break it much by being on a Mac.

[lilac trail]

How do I view the atlas tree on the website. In characters I can see the passive tree but I don't see the Atlas tree

[proud igloo]

PoE1:

[lilac trail]

Well that's very sad on my part. Thxs !

[atomic herald]

now i have a problem, i got a gift from my partner on steam, but when i login from steam and open M ingame the game crash, so i cant transfer the money into the game 🥴
(it is poe 1)

and i try to find in forum and i am stuck

and the email just got an auto-answer...

I believe this is a mac-only problem but there must be a solution somewhere?

i guess i have to post in help section on forum

[atomic herald]

so i got answer that they are busy atm, i guess it is in middle of the night for them. I have patience, no problems. 🥰

[lilac trail]

Have you tried the shop via the website instead ?

[atomic herald]

yea, but how can i reach the steam account from there?

[lilac trail]

I don't use Steam - if you run POE via Steam your can only access your gold to buy stuff via the in-game button ? That seems weird 🤷‍♂️

[atomic herald]

I got a gift on steam - and i can buy ingame points with it - if i can reach the buy option from ingame - i dont know any other way.

I made that in december 2023, it worked then.

[proud igloo]

If you're doing a specific thing to make it crash it's a bug, did you write a bug report post on it?

[atomic herald]

what i know that is a known issue, that its not possible to reach the buy shop from ingame on mac, i heard others tell that.

and yea i have made a post today about it

and i wrote email, but they didnt understand my problem i guess

[proud igloo]

I've packed up my Mac already for the house move so I can't check; started packing all the relics I don't need daily early in the process 😄

[atomic herald]

this button or M

crash the game, and has made last year

should be a wellknown problem

want the "problemrapport"?

[proud igloo]

Do you have a link to the bug report?

[atomic herald]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3901991/page/1#p26529847

well, i go to bed now. Thanks for caring Zao, but it is no big deal, if i cant then i cant. I guess that ppl were just happy with the shop option from poe site and didnt bother to go via steam. I guess i have to do it that way as well, but another week. 🤓

[proud igloo]

Note that the tech support forum isn't the bug reports forum, and I wouldn't necessarily assume that a problem on a niche platform is well-known.

[lilac trail]

This bug was reported in the Bug Reports section of the forum back in November - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3873097
As mentioned - it happens via the M key and via Faustus in-game. This is why many players don't bother reporting bugs - they are just ignored or lost in the volume of cases submitted

I will submit a post in the bug reports section referencing the earlier one plus Piratika's as well. Maybe someone will see it

I am using the standalone cllient for Mac, so it isn't just the Steam based client

[proud igloo]

That's a single person posting during the first week of a league, quite likely to be in a sea of more or less valid reports. More people corroborating it over time means it impacts more people.

[lilac trail]

I agree regarding the sea ... btw I just noticed at the top of the forum are categories - one of which is Mac Client - this is a neat feature. Likely been there for a while but just noticed it now

[proud igloo]

Yep, driven by the tag you put on posts.

[lilac trail]

I have created a post - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3902348
It would be great if everyone can add +1 to the report so it hopefully gets some attention. It is after all a revenue (albeit a small one) impacting bug and it's been there a while.

[atomic herald]

thanks a lot, the thing is, i dont remember where i did post that one, cause some mod on forum moved it 2 times

and yea, for me it is 2 problems - they dont want us to post more than 1 problem at the time so it goes to the right desktop, i guess that will mess with my post as well, and it is weekend, maybe the right ppl see it on monday. 😜

[proud igloo]

Is the PoE2 shop similarly krangled or does that work as intended? It's not on Steam and all that, but Standalone?

[lilac trail]

Not sure what you mean - PoE2 doesn't have a Mac client. The Windows client isn't affected in either POE1 or POE2 when using either Crossover and Sikarugir.

[proud igloo]

Oh right, assumed it did for some reason and the empty Steam title was just a quirk on that side.

[lilac trail]

A few people have questioned why Steam shows a POE2 client for Mac, which turns out to be empty. Likely a placeholder for when, or if, a Mac client comes along for PoE2.

[atomic herald]

So i finally thanks to Kieran figured out that a supporterpack on Steam also includes that points i was after. So purchase is made! 🥰 💖

[night sequoia]

Anyone running pob through Whisky here?

[night sequoia]

I can't paste items from poe trade into the items page in pob for some reason. It only pastes as a URL to the trade site and not as text

[lilac trail]

Did you click the + sign next to the item and then paste via ctrl+<key> ? BTW Whisky is essentially dead. It is no longer maintained by the author. It will still run things it used to run but it won’t run anything that needs a version of WINE more recent than 7.7. You should buy Crossover from Codeweavers.

[night sequoia]

Yeah that's what I did. Nothing happens when I try to paste. I know Whisky is dead but don't wanna buy Crossover only to use pob

[lilac trail]

Which key combo did you use to transfer ctrl+<key> or command+<key> - I find I have to use command key in Crossover.

[night sequoia]

ctrl+<key> works for saving and other stuff just not for pasting for some reason

[lilac trail]

There are other free programs that were around before Whisky and are still supported - such as porting kit and Sikarugir

[cursive radish]

Sikarugir its your best bet , i use it for poe 2 and for pob

[mild raven]

Hey, what is performance of mapping on m4 mac mini 16gb?

if anyone has experience?

[edgy jacinth]

no, but it's probably pretty good, since it's fine on my m2 mac mini 16gb

[proud igloo]

@atomic herald 3.27.0g:

Fixed a crash when clicking on some tabs in in-game shop on macOS.

[wet nymph]

is poe1 better on native these days or sikarugir?

[lilac trail]

You can use either. The main differences is that FPS in the native client is capped at 60FPS for reasons unknown. It also has some graphics glitches now and again but so does Windows.

[wet nymph]

which one is in general better for fps?

i'm playing on mac version right now and it's ... not doing great for fps

also lioneye's watch takes like a minute to load 😕

[lilac trail]

Windows version via Sikarugir or Crossover will potentially get you better FPS but if you are having loading issues that sounds more like a system and/or gateway issue. Using either won’t improve that. You need to look at what your graphics settings are and maybe adjust them.

Sikarugir cost $0 and you can have both Mac and Windows clients installed without an issue as long as you have the disk space.

In the past updates are a lot smoother on the windows client. Also - there is no torrent file for the Mac so you can’t prep as much on the Mac as you can the Windows client.

[half horizon]

Hey guys, I have an 13" M3 MacBook Air 2024, what's the best way I could run POE on it?

The install file keeps crashing.

[lilac trail]

Which install file - we aren’t psychic ….

[half horizon]

The POE install file from the Poe website.

[lilac trail]

And there is more than 1 - are you talking about the Windows installer or the native Mac client ?

[heavy fractal]

life of a helpful tech guy

[half horizon]

Sorry; the Mac client, the one with the .dmg file.
I don’t run windows on my Mac

[lilac trail]

OK - this is like pulling teeth - you need to provide information - what is the error msg you get ? Have you check the pinned messages to see if the issue you are having is covered there ? Also - you do not need to run Windows on your Mac to use the Windows client - see the pinned message about the wiki, which has step-by-step guidelines to setup the Windows version on a Mac - this is in fact the only way you can play POE2 at the moment.

[wet nymph]

So I'm giving the windows client a try on m1 max. Sikarugir, dx12. Is there a trick to get around the shader lag? It seems like the game runs fine except when any effect hasn't been seen before, at which points it takes a significant fraction of a second to compile the shaders and cache them. Does this stabilize at some point? Or is there a trick to reduce this lag?

The native Mac version runs fine except in town and in breaches, where it's a slide show. Unfortunately this is breach league, and you have to go to town pretty often during the campaign

the shader problem is also really bad in town. like my first load into highgate (in the windows version) took maybe 5 minutes

... or maybe not. maybe windows just crashes when you approach a breach defense. oh well

[lilac trail]

I don’t play league so I have not encountered the windows crash you mentioned. If that happens all the time it could be a bug to report. No way around shaders that I’m aware of though others may have a trick or two.

There are some who play league and are using the native client and have mentioned significant FPS drops. That’s a game issue - whether it is happening enough for GGG to address is anyone’s guess. If just for those pesky Mac people than it’ll likely never been touched, especially if it is just league. It’ll be “gone” in 2 months or less.

[half horizon]

I apologise as I thought I was trying to get rigid to the point.

I’m trying to install poe1 on my 2024 M3 MacBook Air 13″.

I have downloaded the installer package from the official Poe website by selecting download for Mac.

On my Mac I have run the install package. The install progress takes 20 min but does not complete itself and the laptop just restarts.

I have also obtained a trial of the Cross over app as per the wiki. This time I installed the windows version on crossover. The game successfully installed itself. When I open the game however, it launches, shows me the character screen and then that screen closed on its own.

No error messages displayed.

[lilac trail]

Check the production_config file and make sure under [Display] that the device_type is set as per wiki (DirectX12).

If yes then game is not reading the file. Happens for unknown reason. To correct you can do 2 things. First copy the file. Then delete the original. Start the game. If it still does not work check the display entry and fix if incorrect or not there.

If file is there and entry is correct then you’ll need to do the other thing. There is a config file link in step 4 of POE2 setup options. It works for both POE1 and POE2. Download it, put it in the correct folder, check the display section is correct. Save it. Start game - it should now run.

Just to warn - it is going to be slow on a MB Air. No getting around that. Set all graphics to low first and see how it goes. Also the Mac will heat up. It should run though - at a guess, maybe 45FPS if you’re lucky.

[heavy fractal]

This guy has given more tech support for the Mac users than the entire PoE e-mail player support over the years. IDK seriously give this guy some well deserved perks. He and Zao are handling the entire channel together...

[lilac trail]

Well they made zao GGG staff - not sure if that is a reward or a punishment 🤣 I'm good doing what I'm doing - though if anyone knows how to solve Krillson's 2nd quest (any of them but preferably the Rainbowstride Boots one) DM me

Just an FYI - the wiki on how to setup POE1&2 using Windows client got a bit of a cleanup today. Both the Mac and Mac Steam clients are in reasonable shape, so for POE, players can go back to using either of them. Keep in mind those clients (at least the standalone Mac) have a FPS cap, which the windows one doesn't. Also you can only play POE2 via windows client, so the wiki is still useful. Both portingkit (PK) and GPTK were removed, as they no longer work for at least 1 of the games (I can't remember which) so the only real practical options are Sikarugir (free) and Crossover (paid) - made sense to clean up the wiki to reflect that.

[heavy fractal]

Probably Krillson himself knows the answer, he posts to Reddit from time to time under different accounts...

https://www.reddit.com/user/FishFinder_42

This was his latest account

[edgy jacinth]

anyone ever get this error in the mac version of awakened poe trade in the debug section? "[10:12:00 PM] error [GameConfig] Failed to find game configuration file in the default location."

It's working but not showing any stats on items, just as if they were normal or something

my game is fine otherwise

[proud igloo]

IIRC, APT uses the game configuration file to figure out what your hotkey for advanced mod descriptions is, so it can hold it for you.
If it's not functioning, it may not get the information that it needs.

[edgy jacinth]

hm ok, so what would the default location of this file be? maybe it got corrupted somehow and i need to reinstall poe? i'm using crossover, and the hotkey in game for advanced mod descriptions works fine when i press it

[lilac trail]

It’s looking for producton_Config.ini I expect. If the game is running than restart APT - there is nothing wrong with the game config file. Of course if you restart the game and it won’t run then yes, you’ll need to rebuild that file. Use the method outlined on the wiki for that.

[half horizon]

Thank you for the detailed troubleshooting steps. I guess it's a toss up between 45FPS but playing with a larger trade market or with 60-80FPS on my PS5 but a dead market.

[atomic herald]

if u get 45 fps on mac native poe 1, thats good imo, i have 30 in hideout and in fighting 20 and lower down to - a total mess. But that is maybe due to a necro with quite a lot of minions.

[lilac trail]

I have an Arakaali Fang build - I think I get at least 40-45FPS but the number of spiders does vary so likely not as heavy an impact as a bunch of minions used by a Necro. 20FPS in a fight though is awful - which is why the windows client is perhaps a better option in most cases, but it might not get you anything in your scenario.

[old sequoia]

I currently have min45 fps+ on the map. I tested it in a window, and the possible result may be 60+. Tested natively and through crossover. m4 max

[glacial vault]

so @lilac trail i bought CO when it was running a sale on Cyber Monday. but i have serious issues with poe2 ...esp if the game logs me out on wait, it creates a fatal error and closes. is this something to be expected? i also see that PoE2 has only 3* on CO and users say limited fnlity

[lilac trail]

The game is in EA so expect anything. I don't follow what you mean that it creates a fatal error and closes if the game logs you out on wait but that means it isn't exciting gracefully and that may or may not be due to an interaction with CO. If this is happening to others than it's an issue, if only you, then something else is likely in play. As for the rating on CO - it's meaningless - the person who rated it didn't provide any specifics - a drop in FPS could be anything - the gateway that day, their ISP, their system (is it a MB Air with less than 16GB ...) - if you make a statement FPS drops by 70% you better mention what it used to be ...

I have not played POE2 since the original 3 acts - I don't like the game - especially when you disguise Sanctum and Ultimatum as worthy replacements for Lab - give me lab any day over those - but I digress - what other issues are you encountering with POE2 ?

[lilac trail]

PSA - Crossover v26 was released today - there is a discount code for 26% off - which outside of Cyber Monday, is the best discount available, so if you don't have it, you should think and act quickly - the code is valid till Feb 17 2026

[glacial vault]

thanks for that detailed post! yeah, i am gonna keep an eye to see if this problem comes back. it did twice already. fingers crossed anyway

nah, no other issues. installation of games in CO is a breeze

[glacial vault]

Hey Bob does CO not work in Tahoe? I just updated my OS to Tahoe and poof! both Poes dont work no more!

Is anyone else finding the same issue?

[lilac trail]

I would be very surprised - many users are running Tahoe + CO. You need to be specific - what happens when you try to run them

[glacial vault]

nothing, it just doesnt start. i clicked the dock icon, nothing. i double clicked the .app in the finder, nothing

[lilac trail]

Did you check the Production_config.ini files to make sure they have the correct settings ?

[glacial vault]

ok, the only check was the renderer before, what else am i looking for? what other settings?

[lilac trail]

Does the graphics settings - even if they are correct you may need t orecreate them

I won't be able to test till later - I don't run either via CO but honestly I would expect to see some reports if it were a wide issue

[glacial vault]

yes i suppose, no one is complaining i went and checked everywhere, including CO forum; in any case i have written to CO support. lets wait and see. it is the weekend after all

luckily, i still have my sikarugir instance, so i can still play

also, @lilac trail , i had another question: in my C Drive within CO bottle, I dont find a .tmp file at all! u know how one of the patch workarounds is to rename the .tmp to .exe? well, I cant find the .tmp

[lilac trail]

What version of Tahoe are you running

[glacial vault]

26.3

and CO is 26.0.039794

[lilac trail]

I tend to avoid new OS for 12 months ... Tahoe has certainly had it's challenges 😜

[glacial vault]

i usually do that too!

wait until the guinea pigs have been sacrificed to the gods of beta

[lilac trail]

If you really want to see a new OS - set up UTM and install it in there- a sandbox you can go to town in - you can install CO in there as well - no additional icense required (I think) so you can do things in there and not impact your primary system

[glacial vault]

well, note for next time i reckon!

btw, did u see my question on the absence of .tmp inside the CO C-drive?

meaning when i open C drive and go to program files etc, all the way to the poe, i dont find a .tmp

[lilac trail]

I didn't read that far - why do you need a .tmp file to be there

[glacial vault]

oh only for hte patch workaround you talk abt in ur guide

[lilac trail]

You shouldn't need that anymore - I haven't seen that issue in patch updates for a while now - you're still getting it ?

[glacial vault]

well, i have done a patch since then, so i cant say, its just that when i was rooting around the folders, i found the tmp missing, which got me thinking

[lilac trail]

I don't remember anything about a tmp folder being involved - I don't even see that in the wiki page but there is a lot of words there - I could easily miss it. The TLDR though is not to worry about it - it isn't material

[glacial vault]

thanks! you are always a life saver

[lilac trail]

You know I am replaceable with AI now 😀 It probably points to the wiki when someone asks about POE or POE2 on a Mac🤔

[glacial vault]

haha, probably, but I found (after already checking AI) that you are still the life saver.

[lilac trail]

AI is good for some things but it lacks context in most cases. It simply can’t diagnose something if it hasn’t been trained or the data it has been trained on is garbage. No-one should be trusting in it as the absolute source. It’s like a very smart assistant but not the boss.

[glacial vault]

yep, besides suffering from the occassional hallucination!

[lilac trail]

Oh yeah - I’ve seen that first hand too

[lilac trail]

I have just seen a web forum post on Crossover reporting both POE games not working after a user upgraded to Tahoe. Off to test. I ca only install and see if the games run since I already have a Mac VM running Tahoe

[glacial vault]

c'est moi

[lilac trail]

What is your bottle set to Win11 or Win10 ?

[glacial vault]

10

[lilac trail]

Having challenges with using a VM for this. Both games run fine using Sikarugir.

[lilac trail]

The issue appears to be the Tahoe update - I can run POE and I assume POE2 (I didn't bother testing it since POE works) without an issue using Sequoia - given POE and POE2 were working on previous versions of Tahoe this seems the most logical reason. No idea IF there is a possible workaround for this.
Also tested Sikarugir - it is also broken by the latest Tahoe update.
Do not update to the latest Tahoe - and not at all if you don't have to

[glacial vault]

ah, so it might be the latest Tahoe after all! alas, i have already updated. let it be a warning to other folks for now

wait, Sikarugir is not broken, i am playing using the Sikarugir version.

[lilac trail]

Good to know Sikarugir is not broken. I can’t run it in my VM so there is clearly another issue at play for me

[lilac trail]

I think version 26.4 of Tahoe may have just dropped. If so I would upgrade and see if that fixes the issue with Crossover. Also - since you have a license of Crossover you are entitled to download the Preview version which was released last week. You could also download that and try Path of Exile on it and see if it works.

I do not know why GGG have a check in the Windows client for what Apple system architecture you are on but that is basically preventing me from testing anything on Tahoe in a VM because their check keeps failing - it also fails Sikarugir in the VM as well, so if't a GGG, not a OS thing.

I have not tested the Mac native client on Tahoe - hopefully it works but can't say.

[glacial vault]

ty @lilac trail

[lilac trail]

You have to carry the test torch since I can't run POE in a VM with Tahoe

[glacial vault]

aight! i will check for the update to both. so CO has a release too, eh? maybe to make up for what Tahoe broke?

[lilac trail]

No - Preview is a release with later versions of things like WINE and DXMT - that are not in the stable release. It is seperate from CO that you use. When you install it, it has a "preview" label across it somewhere - you can run a bottle in either CO or Preview - no need to install POE all over again. You can also go back and forth on using either one. It's a release Codeweavers release so those who wants a more recent version of WINE and other things can test them out. CW can't test everything themselves. Don't worry - it does not break anything on your system of your existing CO install

[glacial vault]

oh, so u basically run ur existing bottle in Preview, once it is installed?

[lilac trail]

Yes - otherwise it would not be practical - no-one would want to have to install a game twice, especially when they are over 50GB

[glacial vault]

ok, so got preview, and no, the apps dont start at all on preview either

[lilac trail]

I'm going to start a thread on this and I'll chat more in there

[lilac trail]

OK - so the good news is POE and POE2 are working on Tahoe using CO now - thanks to a system reboot of all things.

[glacial vault]

who'd ever have thought mac needs a reboot now

[proud igloo]

Mac peeps spotted in the wild: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1rcwfq4/suggestions_getting_steady_fps/

[edgy jacinth]

pointed them to the wiki!

[lilac trail]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum

[atomic herald]

what about the forum?

[brave trail]

Im still on sequoia, and the crossover method isn't working. Should i upgrade to Tahoe? Heard that the liquid glass stuff kinda makes everything slow

nvm just had to restart my mac

[lilac trail]

Oh weird - Iwas trying to send a post from GGG - they are advertising for a Metal/IoS engineer - so they appear to be at least getting serious about building the Mac client - not sure if just POE2 or both games

Grinding Gear Games is hiring engineers with macOS Metal API experience:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3910121

[proud igloo]

Ah yeah, from the big "we're hiring" post early this month.

[atomic herald]

i am also on sequoia, i dont dare to upgrade 😜

[heavy fractal]

Apply for it, go join Zao

[lilac trail]

If I could code I'd think about it but alas that is not my skillset

[meager fog]

Hello. Are there recommendations for setting the in-game graphics options when running PoE in CrossOver?

[lilac trail]

There are some but no standard set. It depends what you are trying to do. There is always a trade off. You can have high DPS (depending on your monitor refresh) or you can have high graphics. If you have a beefy system - an M4 maxxed out in every way you can likely get a bit of both.

You’d have to search the channel for what others have outlined and experiment from there.

[meager fog]

Thanks @lilac trail!

[brave trail]

anyone else getting this when trying to log in?

[lilac trail]

Pretty sue realm is down for patching right now

[proud igloo]

https://x.com/pathofexile/status/2028589614290944241

Path of Exile (@pathofexile)

We're investigating issues with Patching and Login after the 3.27.0i Patch.

X · Mar 2, 2026, 9:53 PM

[lilac trail]

No sane person uses X - seriously ....

[proud igloo]

Most eXcellent platform.

PoE account has 400k followers, that's quite some possible reach still.

[lilac trail]

As I said, no sane people .....😜

Is it fixed yet - I got things to do

[proud igloo]

Ought to be fixed, yeah.

[lilac trail]

A fresh install of POE2 is 126GB now 🤔

[proud igloo]

[half horizon]

Hey guys this is totally unrelated to Poe but is it worth playing WoW on a MacBook Air,

[restive girder]

Hey guys, completely new player looking for some help with graphics settings. Im on a 27” monitor @ 1440p and using a Mac Mini M4pro. Main thing is do I use FSR instead of NIS? What should I set Sharpness to? Triple Buffering? How can I see my FPS?

Any help is much appreciated!

[brave trail]

FSR has better image quality than NIS and the performance should be about the same. Sharpness doesn't really matter too much. FPS press f1. Triple buffering im not too sure. If you're really having trouble with framerate, turn off some sound settings in production config file.

[restive girder]

Thanks a lot man! It seems to run super smooth with good frames. Issue im having now is after about 20 mins or so it crashes. I noticed its a steam thing since Steam kept crashing every 10-15 mins just leaving steam open. Do you know anything about that? I dont get a crash report or anything like that. It simply closes out 😭

[brave trail]

Are you running it natively? Its recommended to use something like crossover or sikarugir because the native version is not very well supported/has some problems.

[edgy jacinth]

steam should generally be your last option, once you start having problems, unfortunately. i'd branch out and try a different method of running the game

[vapid venture]

anybody know if Path of Building for MAC gets updated properly?

[lilac trail]

Not likely - it had rendering issues anyway. Just run the Windows version via Crossover or Sikarugir

[night sequoia]

Anyone else get stuck on loading screen trying to enter the game after character select?

[vapid venture]

I dont have crossover. I do have Geforce now, so I was hoping I could run PoB somehow. dangit.

[lilac trail]

Ah no - you can't run it via GFN. Just get Sikarugir - it's free. Instructions on how to use it are on the wiki link (I think) that is pinned in this channel

[heavy fractal]

Where are you using geforce now from?

TV stick or phone?

on Mac you can run it on device, why you want to run it inside gfn?

Are you playing on apple tv?

[restive girder]

I was running it Natively but I did the Sikarugir port using the wiki and.. oh my god? Runs fantastic. Can this not be done on other games too? Im mind blown

[half horizon]

There’s another version that you have to update manually. Let me find the thread for you from the forum

[half horizon]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3009944/page/1

[half horizon]

For poe 2, I'm using Whisky to run POB

[vapid venture]

Thank you, friend. I figured I could use poeplanner on the web. I'll look at that tho.

[vapid venture]

I'm running PoE on geforce now on my mac. I didnt even try running it directly on my mac, tbh. sorry for delayed response, didnt see this till just now.

[lilac trail]

If you are playing other games on GFN then that makes sense. If you paying for GFN your call but there are cheaper and/or free alternatives as well.

Here is a comprehensive list of options - https://github.com/nonoche2/the-macOS-game-workaround-repo/blob/main/README.md

[vapid venture]

Yeah, I know. I toyed with sunshine/moonlight on my primary gaming PC but honestly I just didnt want to deal with the big case and the noise from it atm. I play wow on my mac, but might move to GFN if I like it enough. im just using it for this month for now to see how i like it. I had to get the ultimate package to support my carrion golem build on my ultrawide, but it ran fine for all that.

I didnt try steamlink even tho I do have that.

[vapid venture]

I moved a month ago and my "primary gaming" system is still in a box. its a 3080 with 32gb ram. Feels kinda bad to leave it in a box, but i just dont know if I wanna hassle with it and hooking it back up and running cables all over lmao.

[atomic herald]

seemed to work to update standalone mac, and i am in queue poe 1

[lilac trail]

POe or POE2 ? I did an update for POE2 this morning

[atomic herald]

50 k ppl before me (poe1, sry)

[atomic herald]

poe 2 have standalone mac-version now?

[vapid venture]

I guess let me know how it runs? If I can run just straight up standalone poe1 on my mac. i will.

whats your mac?

[atomic herald]

studio M1 max 32 gb ram

but on phrecia i had rly bad fps in fights

it could go down to 4 fps, almost unplayable, but thanks to my hoard of minions i survived

or the low fps was caused by the minions 😜

[vapid venture]

gotcha. I have a macbook pro m4 pro 24gb

idk if it'll be better or worse for me lmao.

[lilac trail]

No - via CO or Sikarugir. I was updating Sikarugir. I don't pay any attention to updates since I don't play league. It was pretty funny to see there were 65,000 players in front of me just now 🙂

[edgy jacinth]

anyone getting this error and then getting a client crash? using crossover

potentially related to item filter? using today's neversink release

it's happened twice now

[lilac trail]

Do you not get the poe1-news channel - that exact message is in it - it's caused by an MTX.

[edgy jacinth]

oh ok

[lilac trail]

While in town apparently

[edgy jacinth]

really gives me an excuse to get out of town quick!

thx

[lilac trail]

Except that everyone has to go to town - especially at league starts. The suggestion by GGG t ostay out of towns is silly

[atomic herald]

macos standalone poe1 has no problems in town - yet lol - well i dont use itemfilter

[proud igloo]

Mar 07, 2026 9:20 AM (GMT+13) - The Apprentice Magus Tome Hip Attachment has been temporarily disabled while we work on a proper fix for the issue.

[lilac trail]

It just wasn’t hip enough 🤣

[meager fog]

Is anyone having an issue launching the game through Steam and it being stuck in an update loop?

[forest horizon]

yes

[forest horizon]

i can't login because show this message

[meager fog]

I'm not having any luck getting it to work unfortunately.

[forest horizon]

Me neither, I tried everything. I believe all I can do now is wait. Before, I was playing normally until the game crashed and I couldn't play anymore.

maybe it's ggg mistake

[vapid venture]

any of yall have an awakened poe trade alternative you use?

[brave trail]

If you are using gfn, there was a super jank method by utilizing a tunneler into the steam browser for the browser version of awakened Poe trade. But otherwise Im not sure there are any alternatives

[atomic herald]

u can login via standalone instead, u login on poe-site first via steam, and register an email, then dl the mac-version from first page up to the right

then u login via the email instead of steam

u dont have to uninstall anything, u can have both options available cause they install on different spots

now the M-market key broke again ingame on mac-version poe1, i mean it crashes game

[tidal fog]

hello what is the newest bestest config for crossover 26 for poe1 mirage league?

[meager fog]

Looks like the issue with the update/validate loop when launching PoE for MacOS from within Steam is resolved. I've been able to launch and play successfully. 🙂

[half delta]

Game does not like the mtx shop. Crashes instantly when I open it

[mild raven]

yup same

anyone done a bug report yet?

might just do one now

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3916241

[mild raven]

This native client is so bad, going to try the Windows client

Which is better for Poe1, crossover or sikarugir?

[valid epoch]

feel free to ping me once you tested it if its good enough, i got 5fps in blight maps and used geforce now but i am not a fan of the geforce now thing

dont know about sikarugir, i used mainly crossover or parallels

[lilac trail]

It doesn’t really matter. If you have Crossover use it. If you don’t you have a choice. Crossover is not free. Sikarugir is. The advantage of Crossover is it has a smoother GUI and there is an official support channel and an unofficial support via discord.

Performance depends more on your system specs and graphics configuration.

[lilac trail]

Juiced maps run poorly, or anything with a lot of monsters and things happening on screen - doubly so if you are running a minion build.

Does not matter whether you are using the native client or via one of the WINE based apps. That’s just the way POE rolls. You can turn all your graphics settings to low, but if you have already done that then that is as good as it will get unfortunately. Not a fan of GFN much either but this may be the only time where it is quasi useful.

Mind you even high end Windows and Mac systems can struggle with FPS. There is always a butt load of things happening in POE, even when just standing in HO. It all takes a lot of computational power. Annoying at times but no-one has come close to doing things as well as GGG IMHO. Many have tried. I’ve yet to see any that long term, do as much on screen. Others may have better graphics but that’s part and parcel of the whole experience 😀

[plucky jetty]

Does anyone know if there is a way to make Awakened POE trade work on Mac?

or do I need to use Crossover for to run the game + awakened poe?

[lilac trail]

POE - Native/Steam/Crossover/Sikarugir
POE2 - Crossover/Sikarugir

Awakened POE is native. You just install it on the Mac - there are posts in this channel on some of the hoops you need to jump through to get it going but it should eventually run. POE2 using a different app altogether.

[plucky jetty]

Yeh for POE1, I can't seem to make awakened trade work eventhough I gave it accesibility access in the settings already

[lilac trail]

I remember having to give it permission about 3 times in the Privacy & Security section of settings - you also need to run an xattr command to get rid of the quarantine otherwise MacOS just keeps quaranateening it. I haven't used it in a long time. POE2 uses Exile-Exchange I think. I don't know if that can also be used for POE. Check this channel for mentions of both, though Discord's search features are crap

[lilac trail]

#mac-os🍎 message

[plucky jetty]

yeh I don't know why this isn't working for me

hook_run [1405]: Accessibility API is disabled!
[1]    10100 abort      /Applications/Awakened\ PoE\ Trade.app/Contents/MacOS/Awakened\ PoE\ Trade```

gonna ask my good friend chat gpt

lol

but it should have access

[brave trail]

search for the app in your folders, then right click to find package contents, then go into MacOs and open through terminal

[plucky jetty]

Thanks! this worked

Strange that it isnt working when I call the command myself in terminal but this worked fine, using it now. Thank you so much :D

My performance is ass though on M1 spec

at least can progress the atlas until im back at my pc 😂

[old sequoia]

I'm launching it through the terminal without admin. I'll now give the command that works for me on the latest version.

#!/bin/bash

APP_NAME="Awakened PoE Trade.app"
ORIGINAL_APP="/Applications/$APP_NAME"
FIXED_APP="$HOME/Documents/$APP_NAME"
BINARY="$FIXED_APP/Contents/MacOS/Awakened PoE Trade"

echo "--------- ---------------------------------"
echo “🛠️ AWAKENED TERMINAL CONTROLLER”
echo "---------------------------------------- --"

Check if the program exists

if [ ! -d “$ORIGINAL_APP” ] && [ ! -d “$FIXED_APP” ]; then
echo “❌ ERROR: Application not found in /Applications.”
exit 1
fi

Copying to a safe zone (bypassing the lack of admin)

if [ ! -d “$FIXED_APP” ]; then
echo “📦 First launch: Preparing user copy...”
cp -R “$ORIGINAL_APP” “$FIXED_APP”
fi

Repairing attributes “on the fly”

echo “🔓 Unlocking engine...”
xattr -cr “$FIXED_APP” 2>/dev/null
chmod -R 755 “$FIXED_APP”

Forced start via Terminal

echo “🚀 STARTING ENGINE (Logs below)...”
echo "---------------- --------------------------"
“$BINARY” --no-sandbox --disable-gpu --enable-logging

[heavy fractal]

--no-sandbox and --disable-gpu hmm

[molten fulcrum]

Help! 🙂

I am trying to install poe1 on a macbook. My first attempt had a network interruption and the installer would not continue the install. I think I found all the temp files, trashed them and the install started over from 0 of course. It completed and it closed. I found the install folder and ran the poe file in there, it connects displays 'done' and then diappears. Another thing pops up and displays 'Path of Exile quit unexpectedly' I rebooted it same thing... Any help?

[lilac trail]

You don’t say which installer you run - Windows standalone, Windows Steam or the native Mac standalone or Mac Steam client

[molten fulcrum]

mac standalone

[lilac trail]

Check pinned messages. Might be some things there.
Personally better off using Windows client. See the first pinned message how to do that - there are 2 options. One you need to buy, the other is free. Less hassle than dealing with the native app.

[zenith kite]

Hi guys, i have some questions if its possible, im playing POE 1 on mac m4 always on crossover but i see we can play native launcher on mac, its better ? Actually i try to improve fps cauz endgame is hard for my mac, i try on crossover DLSS / FSR, i want to know how you run the game and settings u have (sorry for my english)

[atomic herald]

poe 1 on native standalone launcher is not good on fps, i play it only cause i am stubborn, big fights i am down to 7 fps or even lower and i have mac studio M1 max 32 gb ram

[lilac trail]

Yes - which is what I also mentioned in my post prior to the individual asking the question - does anyone read posts or do any research anymore …. 🤔

[zenith kite]

i read this channel, i just want to know whats choice are take like dlss / fsr, on google i dont find reddit too only poe 2

like i try bilinear / nis best resulst with or withour dlss in crossover bottle fsr low fps with stutter and dlss same

[restive girder]

Anyone have an issue with PoE on SK where you start lagging HARD and your latency shoots up super high?

Did all the normal things like restarting the computer and game, as well as the router

FPS was fine the whole time and other things like Discord werent DC'ing

[oblique swift]

Alright I just got a message that I need to patch the client but no patch is available. Was fun to play while it lasted I guess

[steel lily]

hello, how do i fix this issue on a mac?

[lilac trail]

If that is the bug I think it is you can’t fix it. This is an issue on GGG’s end. Put a post in on their forum

[steel lily]

Okay thank you

[proud igloo]

Is it still happening?

[steel lily]

yes it is still happening @proud igloo

[lilac trail]

Is this the Mac client or Windows client ? I just tested with my Mac client and it seems to have updated. I did not see the same error. Maybe it's fixed now 🤷‍♂️

[proud igloo]

@steel lily What kind of mac and OS is this? Also, is this the native Standalone mac client, Steam mac client or PC client under a Wine-like?

It might be that your client isn't fully patched.

[wet nymph]

Trying to play PoE1 native Mac client: it sometimes works, but it also sometimes crashes ("quit unexpectedly") on launch. Any way to clear this? Rebooting doesn't help.

Else I can try with Sikarugir but in past leagues it didn't work as well for PoE1 as with PoE2 ... I tried to follow the guide but maybe I missed a config option, and FPS is worse than native client

Plus with Sikarugir it takes for-fking-ever to compile shaders the first time they're used, which makes the game borderline unplayable for the first hour or so

Launching the mac client from the terminal gives logs, ending with:
2026/03/21 09:08:00 258987021 [I Path of Exile 3450] Got file list for "D3D12" 2
2026/03/21 09:08:00 258987022 [I Path of Exile 3450] Got file list for "Redist" 1
2026/03/21 09:08:00 258987022 [I Path of Exile 3450] Got file list for "Streamline" 0
2026/03/21 09:08:00 258987022 [I Path of Exile 3450] Finished checking files
[1] 3450 abort

M1 Max, latest MacOS.

[wet nymph]

ah ok, so going to the application support folder and open -n 'path of exile.app' works

[atomic herald]

i see PC-players complain over random crashes, so it might not be a mac only problem 😅

[lilac trail]

Shaders don’t take that long and certainly the game isn’t unplayable for the first hour. I have the same system - an M1. You don’t say how much memory your system has. That plays a big part in both loading and running the game.

The MacOS client isn’t immune to crashes, but neither is the Windows client. Nothing is always smooth sailing.

[wet nymph]

It’s possible that I set something in the graphics (edit: or even just Sikarugir itself) wrong or that abyss league was particularly bad, but there were minute+ load times on sikarugir, in most zones until I had played enough that they were mostly cached. Max memory so that wasn’t the limiting factor. Perf was still worse than native.

I would consider most zone loads for an hour = minute+ wait time, and when new monsters spawn you can’t see their abilities as borderline unplayable. But again, if it was smooth for you then I guess something is misconfigured on mine.

It also sucks because you can mess with the settings, but settings that affect shaders can trigger a recompile …

[flint hemlock]

Hi, is it recommended to install the standalone client instead of through steam? I don't see any GPU video settings through the steam client

[lilac trail]

Up to you which way you want to install. If you are referring to the setup for Windows there is no setup for Steam since the author doesn’t use Steam for POE but it works (for now)

[steel lily]

2022 macbook pro

I downloaded this app on the website

[steel lily]

Not sure, i can show u when im home

[flint hemlock]

I see, thanks! I installed via steam first, and experienced a good amount of lag, and I thought that graphics options were tied to the standalone installation (mac native).

Is crossover/wine still the preferred method? I couldn't find good details regarding installation

[lilac trail]

It’s my preferred method, though standalone Mac is ok. There are 2 options using WINE based apps. If you have Crossover use it - there is a free 2 week trial before you buy. The other option is Sikarugir - which is free but doesn’t have much of a GUI.

Both are outlined on the wiki - the link to which is in the first pinned message in this channel

[flint hemlock]

awesome, I didn't see the wiki link until now. thanks for the help!

[steel lily]

@proud igloo

this was the macbook i was playing on

[atomic herald]

i think i got that one solved long time ago and it was maybe something like this:
#mac-os🍎 message

at Xal

atm i have 2 different poe.app in my dock (mac version standalone) and the first one is not working, the one that came with the install, the second one i have the .app somewhere else... i see it in the "application support" there is a poe folder now, the one that works

[proud igloo]

3.28.0e remembers you people exist

Fixed a client crash on macOS.

[proud igloo]

Looks like it's one of the old local problems people get occasionally, probably look into the resources from Piratika et al

[steel lily]

Okay ty

[steel lily]

Okay

[restive girder]

Anyone tried using awakened poe on skg for poe1 ?

[trim spire]

Anyone is playing on a MacBook Pro m5 base config? How the game runs?

[spice glen]

on macbook pro m2 pro it runs well on lower resolution, i wouldnt suggest playing on 4k as it will kill ur fps and ur mac

does anybody have a solution for when going into shop the game crashes instantly?

[tidal flicker]

How are people running it on the M2?

[lilac trail]

It runs fine on an M1. You need a decent amount of memory - at least 16GB. Some people have reported playing with 8GB but I imagine FPS would be very poor, especially in fights with big mobs like breach

[atomic herald]

they had that solved for a while, seems to be back again - ouch

[spice glen]

Im quite new to the game been playing for around 2 days, first day i was able to check out the shop but now i had to change the key binding or i keep crashing my game lol

[atomic herald]

u can add to this thread and maybe they see it then
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3916241/page/1#p26612810

[spice glen]

As long as ur not running it on 4k its running like a beast, i mean my 10 core machine is cabale of running games like elden ring and more so poe shouldn’t be much of a problem

[spice glen]

Thank you

[tidal flicker]

No I meant literally how.

[spice glen]

Oh, well you can install it from steam or the official website, not poe 2, they only got native version for poe1, if u still want to run the second game tho use parallels or even better crossover for better performance

[proud igloo]

Some peeps play PC PoE1 under Wine-likes too for perf and features.

[tidal flicker]

Oooh, I forgot this was a both channel :D, I was thinking PoE2.

That all makes sense, thanks.

[lilac trail]

The Toucan returns !

[atomic herald]

i was thinking what happened here? until i read the date 😂

[lilac trail]

Indeed 😀

[proud igloo]

"April april, din dumma sill, jag kan lura dig vart jag vill!"

[heady jacinth]

I use GeForce now, any idea of Poe 2 will be on Mac?

[heavy fractal]

it already is

[lilac trail]

POE 2 doesn’t have a native Mac client. Only way to play it on a Mac is via one of the methods outlined on the wiki at the moment. It does appear a Mac client will eventually be released which is nice.

Hopefully they remember to make it Apple Silicon based because Rosetta2 is being phased out in about 2 years

[proud igloo]

The PoE1 client is already fat since a good while.

[lilac trail]

I keep thinking it runs through Rosetta - I haven’t actually run it in a while but thanks for clarifying 👍

[void palm]

I know the POE1 client (via Steam) had an issue at one point where it would quit out constantly after about a minute. I know that was a while back, so I haven’t launched it recently to say. I’m sure they fixed it, but it was a huge hiccup.

Been playing POE2 on my Mac recently using crossover and it works just fine. I feel like it definitely could look better, but it plays great. Oh and the only other thing is losing the ability to use little tricks like number lock. Actually even if it was native, it’s still missing that little hack feature only found on PC.

[lilac trail]

How do I get all my completed maps back in the new system - I hope I'm not being forced to run everything over again

[proud igloo]

There's a catch-up mechanic, whenever you run a regular map of a tier, it completes all maps on the atlas up to and including that tier.

Much like the old Standard way of running some arbitrary map after merge.

[atomic herald]

if u run a corrupted rare high tier u get all under unlocked

[lilac trail]

That's how it used to be. I would run a corrupted T16 or a map or map with one of the annoying bosses (the chimera or hydra or minotaur). So now I can run a Shaper guardian map and everything will come back ?

Also - I only have 2 viodstones where I used to have 4. I took one of the two out and now it will not slot back in. Why ?

[proud igloo]

Note the word "regular" map. Not sure if any special maps count.
Try it and see.

The general chats might have more advice.

[lilac trail]

Should I have all 4 voidstones like I used to ?

Hmmm - it looks like I can only see 3 voidstones - the map won't move around to allow me to see them all - plus I canot resocket the one I took out. I guess it's bugged. This is all very weird. I can't seem to use a guardian shaper map in one of the four sockets in the middle. I guess I'll try a standard T16 and see if it slots in.

OK - everything is back now - panic attack over - now I just need to learn how to work the new system

[lilac trail]

For those who run the game via GFN this may be of interest - https://github.com/DeftKing/GFNPoEPriceCheck2

[spice glen]

Is it possible to play without lag on macosbin end game? I tried going into t16 maps and my fps dropped to 6

[atomic herald]

on poe1 macnative i think that is how it is, thats why ppl use the pc-dl on mac, see pinned (but dont use steam login, do standalone)

myself is stubborn and play with that fps in fights 😜

anyone else play poe1 mac native?

[spice glen]

does it really change a lot btw?

i mean using the windows version on macos

im quite familiar with crossover and in rare cases the games worked better on crossover than the native versions

[atomic herald]

ppl tell that above yes, i havent tested myself cause i am stubborn

[spice glen]

i guess i should try it out

only if ggg would actually spend some time optimising their games

instead of just adding more mtx stuff

[atomic herald]

they work on it i am sure, they try to find someone skilled in mac programming

[spice glen]

like seriously, a laptop strong enough to play elden ring on medium graphics with 120fps constantly, or rust is quite easy for my laptop too, but not path of exile

[spice glen]

well maybe in some years lol

im an IT engineer myself but im new to macos :(

[atomic herald]

i see, i am just a stubborn lady that bought my first mac 1995

[spice glen]

o damn 1995

what machine are you on right now?

[atomic herald]

mac studio m1 max

well, right now i am on my iphone, on a travel

[spice glen]

i see

well traveling is the reason most of us get a macbook :))

[atomic herald]

i dont travel often 😆

[spice glen]

i see, since im a student atm im on the road like every week and it would be a pain if i only had my desktop

[spice glen]

if anybody need help with crossover lmk!

[lilac trail]

You don’t want to know when I got my first Mac. Hint - it was called an Apple. The Macintosh had not yet been invented 😀

[lilac trail]

Well there is a pinned message to a wiki that outlines how to setup POE on either Crossover or Sikarugir. The CO crosstie used to be broken (it tried to use a non-existent msi). I sent CW an updated crosstie which they seem to have incorporated now 👍

[spice glen]

I see, well i ended up setting it up my own way the link didnt really help me

[atomic herald]

it works lot better now? 🙂

[spice glen]

Its still installiny xD

30gb to go

Ill give it a test when its done

[proud igloo]

I still haven't unpacked my mini since moving. It's in a box somewhere.

Might be a bit more usable now with the NanoKVM USB 4K instead of juggling multiple keyboards and screens.

[spice glen]

Let me know if its better than a macbook if you ever used one before

it finally got installed, i got 120fps constant ( twice as much as the native version ) but i got huge stutters, how do i fix this?

i fixed the stuttering, rendering x12 helped and holy fps, the fps is never lower than 120 now

[lilac trail]

Yeap - which is why if players are chasing FPS the Windows client is better to use.

[spice glen]

i tried changing the resolution tho and it started stuttering real bad and also latency

could you help me with settings and allat?

[spice glen]

network mode was on locked thats why i was having latency and stutters, predictive fixed the issues

[spice glen]

Woah, windows version is so optimised i can play on 4k 120 fps

[proud igloo]

Found the machine. Got some pending updates 😄

[lilac trail]

I would tell you to avoid going to Tahoe but I guess it’s too late

[proud igloo]

You know me, I'm a bug magnet.

[proud igloo]

I can't seem to crash the shop btw, at least not in Steam/Standalone native PoE1.

[spice glen]

It seems like they fixed it, it used to crash for me too but not anymore

[atomic herald]

nice they fixed it!

[atomic herald]

i dont dare to go there, not on my iphone either (there i have iphone 13)

[spice glen]

same hahah, my iphone 13 is barely alive at this point, battery life on 75% atm, and ios 18 was probably the last update till ti dies

also, do i really have to do this every time i join from crossover?

[atomic herald]

that happened me 2 times a week ago (and i havent played sinse then) on poe1 mac native standalone, i thought it maybe was my inet messing with me

[spice glen]

Ive loged in 15 minutes away from home once, and since then everytime i start and close poe it asks me for this

[proud igloo]

Is it just with Crossover or does it also manifest with native clients or projects like Sikarugir (née Kegworks)?
Do any of you other peeps have this?
Are you using something like Apple's MAC address randomisation/anonymisation or something?
Is this on WiFi or wired?

[proud igloo]

@spice glen Are you using any VPN or are you on CGNAT?

[lilac trail]

I don’t have the issue. I have run CO, Sikarugir and native. The only thing that can happen is when using a different client it will say my password is out of date and I need to re-enter it.

I assume the message about account lock out is due to the client coming from a different IP to what it was the last time the player logged in. A good security check but a bit annoying if it keeps happening and IP hasn’t changed.

[spice glen]

Nop nothing

[spice glen]

Idek honestly have turned on the native version after i installed the crossover version

[spice glen]

Its wifi, and also no anonymization stuff

[heavy fractal]

your external IP seems to be constantly changing

are you using mobile data?

tethering

[spice glen]

Im on router wifi but it might be bcz the router is a big server

Which more ppl are conected to

I can finally test poe on my desktop :DD

Cant wait to test it on high graphics

[atomic herald]

so i also have this issue that it locks my account when i leave game, it tells that i login from a new place, but i dont do that

now game crashed cause i had a short break on my internet (i think, not sure what happened there) and it tells i login from a new location, but i dont do that, and i dont use vpn, just bahnhof normal wired connection in sweden

i mean i cant move a stationary computer on some seconds, this is crazy

[proud igloo]

Bahnhof has CGNAT by default, which puts many users behind a few public IPv4 addresses, kind of like a big home router over at the ISP.
I believe you still can get a public IP assigned instead via your pages or customer service.
https://bahnhof.se/privat/kundservice/bestall-publik-ip/
It's unclear if there's any extra cost for it, some sweclockers talk about 50:-/month but they reportedly could also convince customer service to not charge.

If you call them and say that you don't want CGNAT, they might be able to guide you.
There might be some confusion about "publik IP" vs. "fast IP", you only need the former as that's unlikely to change.

[atomic herald]

but this happened about 10 days ago, and today, never had it like that before

[proud igloo]

The primary reason for that kind of stuff happening is when the outward IP changes, on CGNAT it can technically vary between connections, like for each run of the game.
I'd recommend checking what your options are.

[proud igloo]

That should hold for you too, see if your ISP uses CGNAT and if you have any way out of it.

[spice glen]

Well i cant rlly, i live in a student dormitory and we got acces to their servers like i can connect my pc to ethernet or setup my own router etc, but nothing more

[proud igloo]

Fun fun.

[atomic herald]

i changed to login with steam, and that seem to work ok

[strange ember]

yo

my m3 air is not able to hold up well ig

[cursive ruin]

What are the specs on it?

[strange ember]

m3 256 gb

running now i just turned everything to low

tf is this

damn

[cursive ruin]

Well, its not like the M3 Air is meant for gaming and has the specs to match. Unless you have a dedicated GPU in it, the integrated one sits at the low end of things.

And POE has been continually upgraded visually.

[cursive ruin]

Are you new to PC gaming?

[strange ember]

im new to rpgs

[atomic herald]

now when i press M ingame it crashes again, also the "shop" button, instant crash

if that was fixed it was not for long...

[cursive ruin]

OK, well again, the M3 Air isn't exactly built for gaming, so I wouldn't be totally surprised when modern games don't run so well on it.

[strange ember]

yes but this was supposed to haha nvm its doing alr now after turning everything to low

[cursive ruin]

POE has been continuously updated visually for 13 years. POE2 runs on the same engine because they've built on it and refined it for so long.

[strange ember]

ok ok

anyway can u hlp me

https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/penance-brand-ignite-elementalist

i am using this build

but idk how to move along in th the skill tree i cant understand a damn thing

[copper rose]

I would suggest asking that in #1┃new-player-in-campaign-help / #1┃after-acts-help depending on how new you are to Path of Exile! This channel is more for MacOS debugging

[proud igloo]

On which game and platform (native/CO/Sikarugir)?

[atomic herald]

steam mac version (poe1)

i changed from standalone to steam cause of that "u login on another location" thingy

[old sequoia]

Playing PoE on macOS is a nightmare – it crashes whether you’re using the native app or Crossover. I used to be able to play without any issues on Crossover, but for a while now it’s been throwing a deadlock error at me; even after just 5 minutes of play, I’d get this error once a day. I have to manually connect and disconnect the external drive, which is 100% working. I don’t know why GGG hasn’t fixed the deadlock error for windows , which has been present for over a month now.

[fossil dock]

Try use online filter

Instead of filter file

[old sequoia]

I'm using an online filter and I'm still having the same problem. I can see that the game recognises filters for which there are no physical and online files, and I don't know how to remove them

[lilac trail]

Filter files exist in both the native Mac and the WINE based versions. From memory they are in the Users/username/Library system somewhere. Library is a hidden system. You will need to unhide it. There is a pinned message that may also help. You cannot delete the default filter file.

Wine based are in the Documents folder I think

[lilac trail]

I run both POE and POE2 from an SSD using 2 different programs without an issue. I run the native Mac client from the internal drive because I’m too lazy to move it to an SSD. If disconnecting and reconnecting the SSD “fixes” the issue it’s unlikely to be a game issue. Both games are intense on system resources. Something is going on with the external connection - it isn’t keeping up with read/write by the sound of it.

[west shadow]

Hi everyone, If you're dealing with lag spikes and latency jumps even when your internet is fine, check these things out. They actually helped me fix the issues. Apple has this thing called the Apple Wireless Direct Link (AWDL) interface. It puts a load on your Wi‑Fi and causes those on/off spikes. Google the terminal commands for disabling it.

ps. I couldn't really find much mention of this, so I figured it out on my own. If this actually helped you, let me know. Was this just a me problem, or are there others out there dealing with the same thing?

sikarugir/tahoe

[lilac trail]

AWDL has been around a long time. For those who need something to put them to sleep, or find technical documentation exciting see this link - https://dl.acm.org/doi/epdf/10.1145/3241539.3241566

It is unlikely this causes any spikes by itself. It is more likely a router, firewall or ISP issue or a Tahoe thing. Tahoe still has it’s challenges 🙄

[young skiff]

Is anybody else being DCed every 5-10 minutes over the past few days?
POE1 | Mac OS
I was playing without issues for a couple of weeks, and for the past few days I'v been getting DCed every 10 minutes or so.
Nothcing changed on my end. I've even set network mode to predictive.

Any thoughts/advice?

[young skiff]

Ok. Update on my MAC OS disconnect issue for the past few days..
So I did a speed test and my upload speed is usually about 60mpbs, download speed is about 300mpbs. (averages)

My upload speed was at 4mpbs.. I restarted my mac book and now i'm back to my normal upload speeds and the game is working fine, no DCs.

FYI. disconnects can be caused by shitty upload speeds

Hope this helps somebody; DC issues can happen from having very poor upload speeds, which makes sense.

[proud igloo]

If it's wireless, the cause of poor throughput could also be packet loss, which would significantly affect the game if sustained.

[lilac trail]

What gateway are you using and what other gateways have you tried ? What does Fn+F1 show ?

[atomic herald]

the update today tells they fixed a game crash, and i hoped ut was the mac os one when trying to open shop, but it was not, still crashing on pressing shop button or M key (both standalone mac and steam, i tested both) poe 1 ofc

[lilac trail]

Don’t be silly - who needs to buy stuff 😀

[atomic herald]

i do, i like the game

[lilac trail]

Seems they fixed the Shop issue in the Mac client again.
On a seperate note - it's been over a year since I played POE2 so it's time t ogive it another shake. I want to farm up some decent gear and gather currency. Anyone got some strategies to do that ? I'm playing a Witch Hunter, so crossbows mainly. A decent reference to some build options wouldn't go astray either if someone has some links I can check out.

[atomic herald]

yess - shop works, key M and button, but, it couldnt connect with steam, it tells me to accept game overlay on steam - and yes i have done that, but it dont work, maybe i have messed with something somewhere... or it is the mac system that blocks it 🥴

i have both steam and poe accepted in firewall ofc

[smoky rivet]

Hey Guys I will getting a new macbook air m3 in a few days and would like to know the best method to install poe 1

I've read the article on poe wiki and the free option is sikarugir SKG . Is it the best free option or are there any others

[lilac trail]

There are no other free options. There used to be but GGG constantly update their game and the only 2 apps that have kept up are Crossover and Sikarugir.

Regarding playing POE on a MB Air - I wouldn’t - especially if you are getting a base system with 8GB. POE and POE2 are far too demanding to an MB Air to be viable - unless you plan to use GFN instead.

[smoky rivet]

I am getting the 16 gig variant , will it be possible to atleast get 60fps on poe 1 ? Using sikarugir?

[lilac trail]

Not even close. I have a M1 Max with 64GB of unified memory. I get 60 FPS in HO. In heavily juiced maps I’m lucky to get 45FPS.

With 16GB and all settings at lowest possible you will be able to play POE - but not at the frame rate you want on an Air.

If you run it via GFN you will likely get 60FPS but that’s because the GFN system is doing all the work not the MBA

[hybrid edge]

Has there been a dedicated macOS client for PoE2 yet?
Or are we still waiting?

[lilac trail]

Still waiting

[proud igloo]

[balmy cairn]

Hello, do I just download the mac installer from the poe site to get everything I need or is it some flakey version that AI keeps telling it is because GGG stopped supporting Mac years ago? I'm clearly a confused user...

I am wondering if I really need crossover

[atomic herald]

depend on if u mean poe1 or poe2

poe1 have a mac-version, it is playable, but not rly good
poe2 dont have a mac-version, yet

i play PoE1 on mac-version, and for me both steam-version and standalone works. It is a bit crappy fps in fights (can go as low as 5 fps) and almost never up at 60 fps that is the highest possible on mac version. That is the reason many chose crossover instead.

[balmy cairn]

Thanks heaps, I've set up poe2 on crossover/steam last night, so that will keep me busy. I was originally thinking for poe1 - but I'll see how crossover feels this week with poe2.

[hybrid edge]

Has anyone tried poe2 local coop using controllers? I wonder if two switch controllers would work. I know one does but I currently have the game uninstalled so I can’t try.

[hybrid edge]

Is there a plan for a Mac build when PoE2 leaves early access?

[proud igloo]

Can't speculate about the future.

[hasty phoenix]

there were some leaks based on their job hiring postings.. so they are definitely working on it, not sure by when it will be available.

[dim quest]

• FOR ANYONE USING A MAC -

The wayi play poe2 in a mac is using Gforcenow, it ONLY works if you use paid version, free version lets you play, but with constant spike, paid versio is super super smooth (if you have a decennt internet), and only notice a bit of FPS drops if playig some super flashy full map clear end game builds.

[lilac trail]

It will make no difference if you paid to access the EA or not. It’s the same game either way. POE2 works just fine using either program outlined on the wiki.

[dim quest]

Brother i think you did not understood a single word from what ive wrote.

[proud igloo]

Sounds more like they're describing how much remote computer resources you appear to get allocated when playing over GeForce NOW.
Doesn't sound unreasonable for NV to have different kinds of virtual machines and oversubscription levels based on their access tier.

[lilac trail]

GFN have 4 levels. 1 free, then paid tier levels. Ultimate level gets you the most powerful spec PC, so yes the comment makes sense in that regard.

[finite eagle]

what's the latest on crossover mac settings for poe2. I've been using this:

or have folks gotten better perf with sikarugir?

[lilac trail]

That's the only seting you can have. It's a DirectX12 game. DXMT might work but I doubt it and it would not be as good performance wise. Same with Sikarugir. Performance will be a combination of graphics settings, your CPU and amount if unified memory and your internet connection and relationship with the nerest gateeay server.

[hardy island]

May I ask, if you’ve ever needed to use a game accelerator, how did you handle it? I’ve tried several dedicated game accelerators, but none of them seem to work properly.

[fossil dock]

what you mean under "game accelerator"?

[ember bluff]

👀

[spiral jolt]

This is born

What is Macos btw?

[bold barn]

mac os?

[ember bluff]

macOS

Aye

Blame Apple

[hollow pasture]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bitcoin-siteredditcom-d9qKRrl9JE2QM

[spiral jolt]

It’s a joke

Anyway

MacOS channels now exists

Fun

[gilded quarry]

Thought this was about macros

...nevermind then.

[spiral jolt]

Aren’t most macros banned tho

[molten saddle]

😮

[spiral jolt]

[molten saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/mac-os-it-admin-apple-macintosh-pc-gif-14609060

[hollow pasture]

Henry, the tooldevs with macs seem to haev some issues

[spiral jolt]

Henry is in the heist theme already

Nice

Balaclava in head

Loot in the bag

[gilded quarry]

The heist theme

[spiral jolt]

[molten saddle]

🙂

Passed on that info from the tooldev stuff

to the programmers

we're building a new app to fix this invalid installation problem btw

shouldn't be broken for much longer

this also works as temp fix for now: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2936397#p23501091

[hollow pasture]

ok, back to reverse engineering ur crazy bundle format 😇

[molten saddle]

Yeah I can't comment on that 😄

the good news is that we can clean up things later on

[proud igloo]

@molten saddle Is the minimum requirement 10.15? My ancient MBP told me I'm not worthy.

[molten saddle]

From what I've seen, that's what people have siad.

[formal slate]

owo whats this

[drifting raven]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2936392
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2936390

[chilly anvil]

Already posted elsewhere, but this looks pretty silly on a Retina display: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/175290321695932416/756293952780632115/Screen_Shot_2020-09-17_at_16.21.47.png

[chilly anvil]

… dammit that didn't inline

[molten saddle]

What's the problem?

small res?

[chilly anvil]

It's drawing at 1x, so the default size window ends up really small on screen, as does all the UI

[molten saddle]

Ah, right.

[chilly anvil]

The window covers about a quarter of my laptop's screen. It's effectively 600x400

[molten saddle]

There is a couple of issues with startup resolution, and pressing Escape exits out of fullscreen. :/

[chilly anvil]

I don't dare run fullscreen anyway. This is on a Macbook Air, where the game barely runs at all (10-15 fps in hideout).

[molten saddle]

😄

Well the iMac I have to test on uses a Radeon 5300

5K res is a steady 30fps in town.

🙂

Dynamic Resolution is a must

[chilly anvil]

Huh, actually it doesn't seem to be fill rate limited. Runs about the same fullscreen as in that tiny window

quick extra QA notes for Henry or whoever before I head back to work: game consistently crashes on quit, weird image file names get created in the install directory (looks like path separator issues?), can't open the item filter directory, irrelevant menu items under Window (tabbed path of exile, lol)

[molten saddle]

Thanks, all known issues.

👍

[stable aurora]

wait can we use macros in poe now?

[chilly anvil]

more generally it'd be nice if the game could stick its content in ~/Library/Application Support and …/Caches instead of dropping everything in its install directory. Content might have to go alongside the app to aid uninstall though

[molten saddle]

@stable aurora Yes, but I'd wait a bit

[stable aurora]

woooooooooooooooot yay!!!!!!

[molten saddle]

we're building a new app that doesn't have this installation problem

shouldn't be long

[stable aurora]

never have to spam pots again yay lol

[proud igloo]

I strongly recommend visiting your optician.

[chilly anvil]

@molten saddle I think you might have misread the question in a really unfortunate way 😛

[stable aurora]

oh wait im dumb this is for macs

[molten saddle]

Oh

[stable aurora]

super sad face

[molten saddle]

Certain macros are allowed.... flask ones, no.

[chilly anvil]

MacOS is only allowed if you don't use any apple juice flasks

[molten saddle]

they misread macos, i misread macros, hilarious

[proud igloo]

Please, please, please put flasks on the Touch Bar ™️ only

[languid comet]

me fix

🛠️

[molten saddle]

haha ty

[chilly anvil]

@proud igloo … actually, a touchbar skill bar would be amazing 🙂

[stable aurora]

thanks for changing that boss lol

[lucid wyvern]

thanks for the suggestion, we'll talk to the team and see if it's possible 😄

[slim stag]

I find the touch bar is kinda useless when it comes to input. But can be okay for visual stuff, something like health & mana.

[chilly anvil]

Yeah, it'd be more for show than a useful feature

[molten saddle]

could display buffs there 😄

[dull oxide]

so mac version appears tomorrow on steam

[tame void]

The mac patcher seems to hit my network harder than I'd expect - wifi -> comcast, when patcher starts, twitch & other uses of the internet fall over. Does it make many many connections at once, one per file? other heavy use of the network doesn't typically cause this in my house

[dull oxide]

as i waited some hours for the new updated and my mac is now version 15 out of 14 just now

[main jasper]

hah!

[dull oxide]

so itried putting poe and it appears error code 267

[rancid dew]

same error here, error code 267, any solution?

[tame void]

seems to be the same as the invalid install error? I got that, then did right click, Open Contents -> MacOs -> Path of Exile and it started ok

[molten saddle]

That is the best method at the moment

[warm sapphire]

works for me

[molten saddle]

We're still waiting on a proper fix, unfortunately

😦

[dull oxide]

at least i hope the mac os version won't be as bad as the console or ps4 version with the crashes since harvest

[dull oxide]

seems to be the same as the invalid install error? I got that, then did right click, Open Contents -> MacOs -> Path of Exile and it started ok
@tame void that doesn't work either

it opens the terminal and the game appears but after process completed it crashes and quits

even doing this on a terminal doesn't work either as it appears on ggg site

'/Applications/Path of Exile/Path of Exile.app/Contents/MacOS/Path of Exile'

it doesn't work on the terminal

i had high hopes so guess i gotta wait another month for a possible mac os version

[odd mango]

You sure are quick to throw away all hope

[molten saddle]

Chris made an edit to his post

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/iutt04/macos_official_release_delayed_experimental/

[dull oxide]

by this you'll need to delete your Content.ggpk file and patch again" it means deleting what you just downloaded and then redownload it again?

[molten saddle]

I'd recommend deleting entire Path of Exile folder, get the .dmg from the post again and start from scratch.

But yeah, basically re-download content.ggpk file which is the bulk of the file size.

[dull oxide]

by clicking the file on the ggg site again?

or what do you mean about that

[molten saddle]

Yeah: http://webcdn.pathofexile.com/public/tmp/PathOfExile-Installer.dmg

[dull oxide]

i just did that

then i click poe after putting it on applicattions and it still says the error code number

[molten saddle]

Hmm

Failure 267?

[dull oxide]

yes

[molten saddle]

Just saw the same report in the bug report section, this is news to me D:

[dull oxide]

i also try the content then mac os and poe and it worked for a few moments and i could see the past patches and then it failed and the code number appeared again

[molten saddle]

hmmm, weird, okay, thank you. I'll look into it

[dull oxide]

although heist releases tomorrow for windows mostly now

oof now that i think about it it releases in 5 days for consoles how will it act for ps4 will frames get worse or there will be a guaranteed chance of crashing by spamming abilities

cuz i do crash often with the templar im trying out

[molten saddle]

well, the mac version is not indicative of how console/pc will perform

the problems with mac are specific to the mac client/package

[dull oxide]

also my brother did asked about the accounts will we be able to play in our console accounts on pc?

[molten saddle]

No, console is console. Mac/PC are shared.

[dull oxide]

so i have to make a new account to access pc servers

[molten saddle]

👍

Yes

[dull oxide]

do i have to make the account on the ggg site or in-game?

[molten saddle]

Website

Unless you're using Steam, you can use the in-game system to make an account.