1┃general

[bleak quiver]

with div being almost 500c, 50 is the new 10

[spice pecan]

i joined tft voice during the meltdown, ppl were streaming gambas, i bought 1 hom and got it to 3 before poofing

[vocal tinsel]

ive gambad 3 damnations so far

every single one poofed first click

[hard cliff]

https://i.redd.it/nty475khq9fc1.jpeg

[earnest raven]

Gz

[finite quail]

wtf kinda ssf fire ammy

[short prairie]

rf log in

[finite quail]

rf logout

rolling magma mines login

[boreal void]

i cant use cyclone when i swap weapons, its socketed on my chest piece though?? i meet the stat requirements and my weapon just has generals cry and autoexert so idk why that interacts

[finite quail]

hover over the skill gem

it should say why you cant use it

you cant cyclone with wands or bows btw

[boreal void]

oh its shockwave

[finite quail]

staff only

[boreal void]

thats so weird my build guide has swords and axes as the base 6

maybe i missed something

ty for help

[bleak quiver]

void shockwave

[finite quail]

shockwave and void shockwave are different support gems

void shockwave you get from the elder in maps and it supports more weapon types

[bleak quiver]

yea, void can use axes

[boreal void]

no its listed as shjockwave

[finite quail]

then whoever made the build guide is dum

[boreal void]

im leveling

[spice pecan]

do explode chains, etc count for lgoh or is it only enemies you directly hit with your skills

[boreal void]

nah its my first playthrough im probably just missed something bc im tryna get out of the campaign asap

[spice pecan]

like if I bv one mob and it explodes the entire pack, do i get lgoh from effectively that entire pack, or just the one mob that the bv actually hit

pob seems to think that dropping my lgoh watcher's eye is a "leech" loss (???) so i'm second guessing myself

[bleak quiver]

might be some weird max life threshold that pob loves to bug out with

[finite quail]

well

its a leech loss

because you're loosing leech

is your watchers giving you leech?

[nocturne maple]

pob lumps gain on hit with leech

[vocal tinsel]

6 more ritual maps and astrolabe challenge is done

[spice pecan]

it's not leech, it's gain on hit ye

[bleak quiver]

he's talking about life gain on hit watchers

[vocal tinsel]

learning I hate ritual

[finite quail]

Sorry, meant lgoh

[spice pecan]

pob apparently lumps lgoh with leech

i guess it's too arbitrary for pob to enumerate quantify lgoh which is fair

[finite quail]

its life leech/on hit rate

so it is lumped together yes

[nocturne maple]

well, it does it fine in the calcs tab

[bleak quiver]

yea, it lumps it all together

[nocturne maple]

it just likes to do that in the sidebar for some reason

[spice pecan]

but my question wasn't rly that

it was more, is lgoh only applied to enemies hit by your skills or do side effects such as explosions also count

[nocturne maple]

they count

[spice pecan]

that's what I thought

[bleak quiver]

yeah, lgoh is crazy

[spice pecan]

I bought a 40 cold convert + 14 pen double hatred watcher's with the intent of making some rare 60% cold convert gloves

then i remembered how ass unveiling a specific elemental convert is

so hrimsorrows and pen+lgoh watchers are both staying

[bleak quiver]

no idea why they didnt let the dmg conversion harvest swap it

[spice pecan]

yeah

[bleak quiver]

same with dot multi

[finite quail]

if it doesnt specify what kind of hit, it should apply to every hit that comes from you

[spice pecan]

it often feels kind of underwhelming, like I should be seeing surges of life gained when I blow up a pack while standing in a degen for example

which is why it was pretty fuzzy to me, since i'm 3.8k life and have fuck all for phys max

[finite quail]

well, its a lot worse than %life/es on kill

[spice pecan]

it's better the lower your life/es are

[finite quail]

2% of 3k hp is 60 life per kill, so

a max roll lgoh watchers is 30

its more noticeable when you have low life/es values

[spice pecan]

yeah fair

[finite quail]

but %life on kill will always be more impactful when it comes to explosions

[slate rampart]

So is GGG support automated/AI?

[spice pecan]

i think the biggest reason for it is that i can basically ignore every map mod and every altar mod

[finite quail]

not as far as I know

[spice pecan]

the only annoying one is less mana recovery per endurance and that's cuz im not running lifetap imbue on bv

[finite quail]

You can send them an email to their support address if you wanna know in detail I guess

[spice pecan]

i'm running hypothermia instead cuz fuck the system

[finite quail]

not sure what you exactly mean by support ai

[spice pecan]

no? ggg customer support is literally some of the best in the gaming industry

[finite quail]

oh

he meant ggg support itself

not like "does ggg support ai"

lmfao

[spice pecan]

ye ggg support will take care of you as long as you're like, a reasonable human being

[finite quail]

what if I wanna be evil

[nova minnow]

oh hell ye, my unid nebulis sold

[spice pecan]

good thing kiwis are keen to tell people to piss off then

[finite quail]

Lmao

hey btw, you ever played around with Snipe?

[spice pecan]

yes

puncture snipe

for single target

[bleak quiver]

used to be goated

[finite quail]

cant figure out why I'm getting double proj on my snipe puncture

[spice pecan]

no one knows

it just happens

[bleak quiver]

then the phys dot apocalypse hit

[spice pecan]

i don't even think jaytx knows

[vocal tinsel]

wtf why did that one sell for so high lol

[finite quail]

I think its because

I have master fletcher and the other +1 proj node on the tree

its giving +2 to snipe

[spice pecan]

yeah but

[bleak quiver]

double good dmg %

[finite quail]

which snipe itself is an attack

and then it applies another +2 to puncture

[spice pecan]

I get 3 proj on my snipe despite having no extra proj anywhere in my snipe link

[finite quail]

so they combine?

[spice pecan]

or on tree

or literally anywhere

[finite quail]

oh

[vocal tinsel]

yeah I bought a double good dmg for one div like a week or two ago lol

[spice pecan]

it's extremely odd

i haven't solved it but tbh im not complaining

[bleak quiver]

you found a sucker, or yours was "good" dmg %

that is t1 fire t2 ele

[vocal tinsel]

i guess its phys damage not ele

[bleak quiver]

yeah, thats not good

[spice pecan]

and my bleed bow actively avoids extra proj since i'm already just playing split arrow

[vocal tinsel]

phys damage scales still though for bv does it not?

[slate rampart]

@spice pecan I dont feel taken care just mad. I dont think ill ever get back into the game after switching to PC and losing all my tabs. Yes yes everyone says just rebuy them but then ill just be mad out of principle and not wanna play anymore

[spice pecan]

who needs extra proj when mainskill fires like 18

[finite quail]

pob seems to think snipe has 1 proj and a linked bow skill has 3 proj

[vocal tinsel]

before phys convert to fire?

[spice pecan]

yes,

[finite quail]

guess snipe support adds 2 proj itself without mentioning it in the text

[spice pecan]

phys LoM is extremely good for bv for that reason

[nova minnow]

main users of nebulis is RF/cast when stun afker tho

[spice pecan]

were you a console player?

[bleak quiver]

does have lower %

[finite quail]

console players be like:

[spice pecan]

nah don't harass them

[bleak quiver]

bv is the main users this league

[spice pecan]

the console MTX thing is not GGG's fault

[vocal tinsel]

is this not t1 phys t2 fire? (26 fire, 30 phys before impl boost)

[finite quail]

I know its not

Idk why they get mad at ggg for it

thats my point

[bleak quiver]

t2 t1 i think

t1 fire is 32% max i think

[spice pecan]

if you were a console player that switched to PC, then you MAY be able to get your tabs switched to PC as a one-time thing IF you were on xbox. If you were on playstation, you're shit out of luck because of sony's policies. It has nothing to do with GGG sadly

it is unbelievably frustrating

[nova minnow]

nah its still 42% rf
fire trap users feed into rf as well

[bleak quiver]

yeah, so its almost a 5050 split

42% rf 39% bv

also bv on secondary weapon instead of main skill wont show, since it needs 5+ link to be called main as per poe.ninja

[finite quail]

FINALLY got a fucking goddess fragment for uber lab

in TIER 8 MAPS

[nova minnow]

If I sort by number.
total users w nebulis is 12k.
if i exclude bv, it goes to 7.4k

Also, you then have to add fire trappers to rf

[bleak quiver]

what

no

[nova minnow]

fire trappers are rf users that failed to make it

[bleak quiver]

rf already includes fire trap

[slate rampart]

@spice pecan Yeah I played on Playstation, but switched to PC years ago and just been waiting for GGG to add transfer like Warframe did......

[finite quail]

YOOO LETS GOOO

[spice pecan]

this is why i run the first lab trial i see in ssf after campaign

[spice pecan]

it's purely a sony thing from what we know, because xbox has been able to make exceptions

[finite quail]

well yeah

otherwise you dont get uber lab

[nova minnow]

well no it doesnt. if ur rf does less dmg, ur main skill is fire trap

[spice pecan]

doing all random rituals helps too

[nova minnow]

so they failed to buff their rf to be main dmg

[finite quail]

got a div, an offering and a venopuncture in this map DAYUM

[slate rampart]

@spice pecan Sure but I fail to see why GGG could not just delete my old sony account conpletely removing them from the equation and give at least something to my steam account.

[bleak quiver]

thats not how that works

you can have multiple main skills

"main skill" is just 5l+

poe.ninja says that IC is one of my main skills

[finite quail]

because thats not how it works

[nova minnow]

oh so it includes everything

[finite quail]

blame sony, not ggg

[spice pecan]

that's beyond the scope of my knowledge. i pretty much entirely agree though. My first guess would be that they simply don't have the level of access to "delete" your sony account, because your purchases within the sony platform are hard-tied to whatever PSN account you used

[bleak quiver]

yes, and even if it wsnt

that not how arrangements work

fire trap is contained inside rf

[nova minnow]

Ok then on absolute terms, by excluding BV users from the filter

all BV users are gone

[spice pecan]

like, "a game publisher can't just arbitrarily delete an account on our PSN platform when they made purchases through it" makes sense on the surface, right

not defending sony, it's shit

[slate rampart]

@spice pecan I can login to the ggg site and delete the account easily. Honestly feels like a case of they just dont wanna which is fine I guess

[spice pecan]

i can assure you it's not a ggg thing, it's a sony thing

[bleak quiver]

4925 characters bv. 5093 characters rf

[spice pecan]

because they have done this transfer thing for xbox players many times before

it has to do with some bureaucratic bullshit that i don't know anything about

[nova minnow]

damn wtf are the remaining ppl using

[bleak quiver]

there are some sparks users and shit

[nova minnow]

ay they using incinerate tho

the fuk shield crush

[spice pecan]

i would say either pray that ggg backports crossplay to poe1, OR, use your playstation as your poe2 machine (since it has better conch support and crossplay), and then maybe just work up your way on pc again.

both "solutions" fuckin blow

and i hate that console players for poe1 get treated like they're in the stone age

i don't even play poe on console and it makes me fucking mad

[finite quail]

solution:

get a steam deck

[nova minnow]

all the nebulis high dmg bv users are going

is crit, but % chance for double dmg first ofc

[thick goblet]

i might be talking out of my ass but i don't think tabs transfer even with crossplay in poe2, your characters do but you have to buy double tabs

for sony

[finite quail]

I think so

[bleak quiver]

spell dd > > explode > dmg

[finite quail]

you have subaccounts for that shi

[spice pecan]

yeah admittedly I have no clue how console interacts with poe1+2 tab sharing and whatnot

[nova minnow]

but phys dmg/ crit multi/ crit chance/ fire dmg/ ele dmg?
which better

coz i might go farm uber cortex again for gamba

[bleak quiver]

crit multi >>, crit chance is local im pretty sure

then phys ele fire

[nova minnow]

sorry crit chance i meant spell crit chacne

[bleak quiver]

crit chance idk

its not hard to get crit capped

but if you are not... its good i guess

[nova minnow]

chance for double dmg looks like the main one

[rancid sluice]

naw youre right you gotta buy tabs in both

[bleak quiver]

yeah, dd is the main one, explode if you are rich, then the rest dnst really matter

you are already doing billions from the start

a triple dmg% bring you from trillions to trillions +1

[rancid sluice]

i love that i can jump from pc to ps5 and just keep rocking in 2 but ive got waaaay more tabs for pc and if you dont have them on console they are just remove only

[spice pecan]

wait so if I were to buy a ps5 hypothetically could I log into all my pc characters and access all my pc tabs

on the praystation

[rancid sluice]

if you buy them on both, sure

[spice pecan]

nomegalul

[rancid sluice]

like right now ive only got currency and map on ps so i keep all my other shit in 1-5 so i can bounce back and forth

[slate rampart]

@spice pecan I stopped playing on console all together. I cant stand Sony as a company anymore.

[nova minnow]

wtf fragments ebcame expensive

[spice pecan]

well, it's pretty easy to see why, they're literally the reason you can't just transfer your shit to pc. it's like apple banning in-app mtx shops

[slate rampart]

I'll just find something else to play. Lord knows I have the backlog

[spice pecan]

ye, you're always welcome back if you wanna thug it out on 4 tabs

i really feel for you and it pisses me off that they can't just do the obvious solution because of behind the scenes bullshit

[slate rampart]

@spice pecan That and just paying them to use you own internet. PC is just a million times better all around.

[spice pecan]

I remember when i was so mad that I got a 360 because my best friend got a ps3 and PSN was free back then

whereas you needed to pay for xbox gold

[slate rampart]

O I just tried it out I cant do it 4 tabs and I cant sell anything naaaaa

[spice pecan]

well, you can't really sell gear

but you can use currency exchange, and ingame trade

[slate rampart]

O because those merchant tabs they added?

[spice pecan]

so it is somewhat playable as long as you're not like, trying to boss farm

[bleak quiver]

guildies can do a solid too

[spice pecan]

you only need those to sell. you don't need any if you want to buy shit from other ppl'

[hard cliff]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takahē

He's gorgeous

[spice pecan]

the addition of currency exchange back in 3.25 removed the largest hurdle from trading, both buying and selling

[slate rampart]

I just want a looter game been craving one. Might just buy the complete edition for BL4 since its lower than a full price game atm

[spice pecan]

you could literally play on 4 stash tabs, farm harvest for yellow juice, sell it all on faustus for divines, and then buy gear on trade for divines

[nova minnow]

Toucanhē

[spice pecan]

for zero dollars invested

back even 3 years ago that would have been unheard of lmao

[thick goblet]

you're gorgeous

[slate rampart]

I know you said words there but I have no clue what you said

[spice pecan]

currency exchange is a thing they added in 3.25 where people can post currency items that they want to sell or want to buy

[hard cliff]

https://giphy.com/gifs/upkgrelease-creepy-kitty-human-teeth-cat-Cm4ZDVRSsr7pHbNmKM

[slate rampart]

Hmmmmm

[spice pecan]

and it trades them based on whatever the current going rate is from players who post buy/sell orders

so you no longer have to whisper players over and over to convert your gcps into chaos for example

[short prairie]

wait

[spice pecan]

you can just... do that with an npc lol

[vocal tinsel]

stupid astrolabe challenge is done 37/40

[finite quail]

...what

[short prairie]

No one’s trying to take over the leaderboard in ssf??

[vocal tinsel]

soon

[spice pecan]

"i showed you my pp please respond "

[slate rampart]

So how long is this current league around? That armor does look kind cool

[spice pecan]

about 2 more months?

[normal hedge]

i love poets pen

[spice pecan]

maybe a month and a half ish

[vocal tinsel]

poets pen go brrrt with lightning warp socketed

opop leveling strat

[finite quail]

about 50 days orso

[nova minnow]

poets pen is small

[finite quail]

its average sized

dont disrespect it

[hard cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFZW6au5aN8

[nova minnow]

it's now about the size, it's about how you use it?

[vocal tinsel]

35 altars away from eldritch, sanity to spend getting last 4 4-mod invites and then juust gotta grind to 100 and im done bois

[normal hedge]

its a one hander for sure

[vocal tinsel]

then its sell kit and gamba until poo2

[finite quail]

yayyy uber lab done

hoping for a good divine font

[slate rampart]

@hard cliff How grindy are they this league?

[short prairie]

When you play some questionable games you always play with one hand

[spice pecan]

anime fucking ruined the planet

[finite quail]

[normal hedge]

i was playing bloons td6 with one hand because the other one i was doomscrolling tiktok

[short prairie]

?

[spice pecan]

❓

[short prairie]

The heck

[finite quail]

8% quality, cant complain

[short prairie]

Why anime

[slate rampart]

@spice pecan Id blame the gooners

[hard cliff]

I don't know I keep putting off starting on them lol

[nova minnow]

how is this useful

[spice pecan]

my husband is a fair bit older than me and constantly doomscrolls tiktok, yet when i text him asking him what he wants for food, i don't get a reply for 2 hours

i think he might be hetero

[finite quail]

perma aggravated bleed without needing to play glad

[spice pecan]

this is specifically used for a bleed trick with farrul gloves

[short prairie]

Bleed

[spice pecan]

where you get 8 crimson dance bleeds + 1 regular bleed, and then use those boots to "aggravate" the crimson dance bleeds which "cannot be aggravated"

it's incredibly janky, and bad, but pretty funny

[finite quail]

yayyyy 2 ascendancy points I cant spec into anything, except two 5% attack speed small nodes lmao

atleast until I kill saresh

[hard cliff]

I do be keeping up with several animals lives via youtube shorts tho

ngl

they have invented a dog that can speak english

[spice pecan]

the only shorts i watch are fb shorts from a local plant store ran by a very funny and very gay proprietor

[hard cliff]

are the plants also gay

[spice pecan]

given where i live, i would be shocked if they weren't

[short prairie]

If u gay too then yes

[hard cliff]

Interesting

[hard cliff]

san francisco

[short prairie]

Seattle

[hard cliff]

Where are the gay enclaves in America

[short prairie]

My cousin’s not gay but he lives near a gay bar

In Seattle

Sus

[hard cliff]

Do they make gay Chinese people ?

[short prairie]

Idk

[nova minnow]

as a chinese

maybe

[spice pecan]

San Francisco, or Seattle for major cities, Palm Springs cali/Fort Lauderdale Florida/Provincetown Massachusetts for minor cities, also Portland OR is a major lesbian city

[nova minnow]

the best female character cosplayers

are men

[short prairie]

You can rarely find any gays in China

[hard cliff]

Thank you

[short prairie]

Cuz it’s general not accepted by the majority

I don’t think same sex marriage is even legal in China?

[spice pecan]

is it the cuff lmao

[hard cliff]

https://youtu.be/oEIzkLr7JzQ

[spice pecan]

probably too personal but i pity the person that has to live near the cuff

[hard cliff]

My friend moved to a college apartment within walking distance of a local bar

he became a low key alchjoholic for a bit

[spice pecan]

idk, i kinda kept to myself when i was in china, me and my roommate had a few run-ins with super curious chinese ppl who wanted to practice english with us and it never came up as a topic

[short prairie]

No, and I don’t remember what it was called

He pointed it out to me once

Not near pike

[normal hedge]

whats rapid assault

never heard of it in poe1

[short prairie]

You went to China to study abroad?

[muted lodge]

Mb

[normal hedge]

thats mageblood

[short prairie]

what a nice way to say this is not poe2

[finite quail]

bruh my first three 6links I get and they're all bases I cant use

[short prairie]

legion

[normal hedge]

nice a lot of fusings for you

[short prairie]

Legion incubators 6 link

[normal hedge]

still gonna drop an useless base

[short prairie]

Easiest way to get 6link early

[short prairie]

why u cursin him like that

[boreal void]

does every boss in this game have multiple ad phases

[normal hedge]

i wasnt cursing lambie directly

[short prairie]

[finite quail]

no

[short prairie]

Sounded like it to me

[boreal void]

🙁

[finite quail]

dont have legion specd yet

[finite quail]

why are you frowning

adds phases are annoying as fuck

[boreal void]

no

like

in campaign

[finite quail]

wdym

[boreal void]

every boss

[short prairie]

Prob need on kill effects

[boreal void]

has ad phases

[normal hedge]

sure but campaign is 1% of the game

[boreal void]

act 4 was the only enjoyable act for me i just want to be done

yes il

ik

but its still alot of time

[finite quail]

oh you mean campaign

then uh

[boreal void]

yes

sorry

[finite quail]

yes, for the most part they do

[boreal void]

shouldve specified

fark

[finite quail]

dw endgame is better and more fun

[boreal void]

i know

[normal hedge]

act 5 bosses are the most annoying ones for me when we're talking about phases

[finite quail]

try to enjoy yourself in the meantime

[short prairie]

Brutus doesn’t have ad phase

[boreal void]

yeah im at kitava

[finite quail]

brutus is not an act boss

merveil is

[boreal void]

wait the healthbar stays on death

???

[short prairie]

Bosses in acts

[finite quail]

not usually

[short prairie]

Not act boss

[finite quail]

we are talking about act bosses

no one actually cares about minibosses in campaign

[short prairie]

He didn’t specify

[finite quail]

they are all pushovers

[short prairie]

He said every boss

In the game (campaign)

Brutus is a boss

[finite quail]

your ragebaiting is weak

go back to farming

[normal hedge]

u're the one ragebaiting

[vocal tinsel]

He’s right though

Brutus is a boss and is in campaign

It’s not a final boss of the act but it is a boss

[normal hedge]

merveil is just the final boss of act 1

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-dog-bark-ragebait-succesful-gif-13695976480928012940

[short prairie]

I’m not even trying to rage bait…

[normal hedge]

we know, lambie is

[short prairie]

I’m just trying to say what the guy meant when he asked

[vocal tinsel]

And I don’t think anyone’s mad so is the rage bait really successful?

[short prairie]

Cuz some mini bosses also have ad phases

[finite quail]

temu jerma

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-handsome-men-jerma985-jerma-twitch-gif-14556994246222571381

[vocal tinsel]

Campaign in general just kinda sucks. Can we just get a delete on it and start directly in maps

[finite quail]

nope

[normal hedge]

i dont hate it

i just dont have any fun in campaign

[short prairie]

My proposed plan is: you have to do the ful campaign on the first character

[vocal tinsel]

It’s just annoying to have to run for every character like why

[finite quail]

tbh campaign is a chore

[vocal tinsel]

Why does my map progression translate but my campaign progression doesn’t?

[short prairie]

But 2nd character onward you can choose to skip, leveled to 60 and no gears are provided

[normal hedge]

not being able to play "every" skill til act 3 is so boring

[vocal tinsel]

I’d be fine starting lvl 1 and having access to all of it and just run what I need to level

[short prairie]

Lily Roth waiting in act 1 with all gems

[normal hedge]

i wish

[finite quail]

only after beating the campaign once

otherwise even more overwhelming for new players

[vocal tinsel]

I mean can’t you just go hideout after first camp and buy them anyway?

[short prairie]

[finite quail]

Actually yeah

[vocal tinsel]

I haven’t actually tried

[finite quail]

you're right

[normal hedge]

still have level requirements

🥀

imagine if we could play with good skills in mud flats

[short prairie]

Lily Roth is not there on your fist campaign

[finite quail]

skills are not balanced that way

[vocal tinsel]

You can if you over level in coast

[normal hedge]

thats not the issue

[vocal tinsel]

I said after first campaign silly head

[normal hedge]

they could just balance

the issue is the vision

[finite quail]

you wouldnt get enough xp after some time so not possible

[finite quail]

the designs of the skills themselves are balanced around getting it later in campaign

lowering their numbers is not enough

[short prairie]

how did my brain skip the “after”

Omg

I’m getting old fr

[finite quail]

they'd have to change the mechanics of the skills themselves

[normal hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/stocking-panty-and-stocking-paswg-stocking-paswg-ragebait-gif-8323311867158811660

[vocal tinsel]

It’s okay same ngl

[finite quail]

and if they'd make all skill gems level 1, why wouldnt they make all support gems level 1?

[vocal tinsel]

I’m almost 30 and my joints are already acting 50

[short prairie]

Rilays almost 30 too

[normal hedge]

no

[normal hedge]

im chinese ages i'm not

[short prairie]

In 12 years

Pretty soon

[finite quail]

too bad you're not chinese

[short prairie]

She’s Brazilian Chinese

[finite quail]

thank god china isnt real

[silent leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/type-shit-gif-9671693580023997426

[finite quail]

[normal hedge]

senses are you gonna leak bilibili builds in 3.29?

[short prairie]

It’s very real now

[finite quail]

thank god its not

[short prairie]

Games are way better than western games

[finite quail]

good one buddy

[short prairie]

Western game devs are falling

[finite quail]

triple A devs are not all devs

we loathe triple A and love indies in this household

[short prairie]

See Japanese games

Elden Ring

[normal hedge]

so you like gacha games

[finite quail]

mfin chinese games cant show damn BONESin them bro

[normal hedge]

[short prairie]

No

[normal hedge]

yes

thats every asian game

[short prairie]

Only like good gacha games

[normal hedge]

none

[short prairie]

Like Nikke

[finite quail]

so, none of them?

[normal hedge]

🥀

[finite quail]

gacha as a genre is literally child gambling

[normal hedge]

infinity nikki?

[finite quail]

or goner gambling

[bleak quiver]

no kid can afford gacha games

[short prairie]

NIKKE GODDES OF VICTORY

[normal hedge]

i love the dressing gacha

[finite quail]

this is literally not true

[silent leaf]

Nihilister mommy

[normal hedge]

cant wai to gacha more dresses next patch

[nova lake]

there are gachas u dont need 🫰 for, and are actually good (correction one i know of lol)

[nocturne maple]

not if they keep putting out double pilgrim banners. I can barely keep up as is

[short prairie]

That’s the default dress

[normal hedge]

how do you know

:sus:

[short prairie]

My cousin plays it

She’s got like

6 7 good sets

[normal hedge]

icant

[short prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

She really does have 6-7 sets

[normal hedge]

she should whale more

[short prairie]

I think she grinded for it

Showed me all her sets

One was like Alice in wonderland

[normal hedge]

o

[short prairie]

Another was a green fairy

[bleak quiver]

senses, any ssf tech to farm 8mods and/or nightmare maps?

cant find anyone just printing normal maps

[normal hedge]

first you farm haunted mansion boxes for a week for scarabs

[finite quail]

the 8mod scarab

[normal hedge]

when u're done ask me again

[finite quail]

run every carto scarab

boom 8 mods everywhere

[bleak quiver]

yeah, but how? which shell? crimson iron ore? originator? full mirage?

i need the data points

[finite quail]

any farm that has a lot of monsters

so breach deli beyond

boxes

[normal hedge]

theres two ways idk which one is better, or if theres better ones

1. kaalgur crimson ores
2. breach with breach and carto scarabs

[bleak quiver]

those dont even work with the carto scarabs

[short prairie]

You should ask esm

I don’t farm 8 mods

Only origininators

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01KNWF1TQS3A21RH6D2E0F2KFG/4x.webp

[normal hedge]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01KNWF1TQS3A21RH6D2E0F2KFG/4x.webp

[finite quail]

poopinator

https://tenor.com/view/cat-with-recoil-meow-with-recoil-tuxedo-cat-big-meow-tuxedo-cat-big-bark-gif-11625919717464356766

[bleak quiver]

i was thinking about crimson, but i only got huge aoe builds

[short prairie]

https://maxroll.gg/@manni?filter[build_guide_type][filters][0][taxonomy]=taxonomies.build_guide_type&filter[build_guide_type][filters][0][value]=archive&filter[build_guide_type][filters][0][operation]=!%3D&filter[build_guide_type][filters][1][taxonomy]=taxonomies.build_guide_type&filter[build_guide_type][filters][1][value]= &filter[build_guide_type][filters][1][operation]=NOT EXISTS

Also this is manni’s ssf Strats and builds

[spice pecan]

no but I was in the top band at UW and we toured 3 cities in china for 10 days in 2019

anyways

[short prairie]

I went to UW too but UWB

[normal hedge]

manni doenst have a 8map farm

[bleak quiver]

with normal ass maps being 6c, it should be fairly good d/h, and no one is exploring it, so i wanted to have the data points to compare with other map based scarabs

[normal hedge]

well, at least there

bruh you dont get that many maps

you need 80 maps for a divine

if they ever sell

[bleak quiver]

they sell instantly

seriously

they fly in secoonds

[spice pecan]

https://pobb.in/BWXcXWcbDcr1

this is the best this character is ever gonna be, dualwield 2x grace of the goddess is 500m dps but barely 85/82 block.

tried pobbing this character with mageblood, even with perfect simplex, perfect crit multi helical, and perfect flasks, and it is still less than a third of the damage on this pob lol

[normal hedge]

it was hidden

:reallymad:

[bleak quiver]

and another few pages more

[spice pecan]

so like i still rly dont understand why ppl be saying "just go mb"

[normal hedge]

so 100 maps for a divine

[spice pecan]

nvm i got flooded out

[normal hedge]

when i tested the breach one i was getting 20 ish maps on average without dupe altar

but i didnt tested much

[bleak quiver]

idk if there's a word limit here

but i can drop what im working on

[finite quail]

2k characters on discord

[bleak quiver]

Format: `

• Lable
  -Scarabs
  -Roll
  -tree
  -evaluation

test runs:`

Notes:
Quantity seems to affect both mirage maps and astrolabes, astrolabes seem to be extremely more affected by quant.
Pandemonium seems t add ~+10 astrolabes and mirage maps compared to domination on terror based stats profit over 20 maps, if 20x pand price < predicted value, use it.

• Just rushing white city squares with interference:
  -Interference + awakening (optional).
  -White maps or ~80 quant with no mods which slow you down.
  -https://poeplanner.com/a/6JOB
  -t8 generic maps, t8 nightmare maps, t0 special maps, t1 (t0 w/awakening) chisel, t0 guardian loot, t3 mirage maps, t2 astrolabe.

test 1: white maps, 38m 8s, 24d 403c +4d (unsold mirage maps) raw profit, 45.4 d/h (removed 2 baryas which were highrolled compared to other tests avrging 1/20 maps, 55.3 d/h if i counted).
test 2: rare maps heavy filter ~80% quant avrg, 51m 54s, 33d 415c raw profit, 39.1 d/h (not worth the slow down).

• Pandemonium city square:
  -Awakening, Pandemonium, Interference, +2 of: Corruption/ Delusions / Escalation / Domination.
  -6mod, Quant dnst matter much.
  -Same as previous.
  -t2 generic maps, t2 nightmare maps, t1 special maps, t2 chisels, t1 guardian loot, t4 mirage maps, t4 astrolabes.

4 x20 map tests earlier in the league gave ~33.6d/h, certainly worse than terrors this far in the league so not running any further testes.

• Terrors haunted mansion:
  -Awakening, Terrors, 2x Domination, +1 of: pandemonium / Domination
  -8mod, Quantity matters.
  -Same as previous.
  -t2 generic maps, t2 nightmare maps, t2 special maps, t3 chisels, t2 guardian loot, t0 mirage maps, t1 astrolabes

test 1: +100% quant 8mod, 1h 50m 33s, raw profit 76d + 260c + 8d (unsold mirage maps), 41.55 d/h ;
test 2: +70% more maps 6 mod, 1h 51m 54s, 45d 45c + 8d (unsold mirage maps) raw profit, way more mirage maps but 0 astrolabes, 28.5 d/h;
test 3: white maps, 3 shine instead of pandemonium, 39d 221c raw profit, 1h 10min 31s, 33.6 d/h;

[finite quail]

4k with nitro

[normal hedge]

ok whats the tldr

[short prairie]

Time to type GET DOWN

[bleak quiver]

40-45 d/h with 30 min strats

fast, good, no sorting

maps, scour and list

[normal hedge]

nah i was more interested about maps per map

looks like youi dont have that data

[bleak quiver]

im too lazy to have multiple tabs for each map

[short prairie]

You are wasting so much time organizing those

[bleak quiver]

i like organizing

[short prairie]

Is your bed organized

[bleak quiver]

nope, not at all

[short prairie]

Myth busted

You don’t like organizing

[bleak quiver]

2 thinks i dont organize are my bed and my laundry

just stays like that until i clean everything

[tawdry olive]

poe players spend half the effort they put in game into real life challenge: impossible

[bleak quiver]

but back on topic, yeah, im trying all the new "boss" based map starts and trying to find the good, the bad, the mid

[short prairie]

True.

Also I wonder what your pfp is

[spice pecan]

one day i won't get walled

[short prairie]

She pretty

[tawdry olive]

it's a random fanart of oshino shinobu

[livid quarry]

its a kid

[spice pecan]

and i pray that the day that i don't get walled, it isn't also a day where deathbeam says "-66% of your damage is a good tradeoff"

[tawdry olive]

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/128308436
here's the source in case you're curious

[spice pecan]

walled again

[short prairie]

???

Kid?

[nova lake]

what was used here?

[bleak quiver]

she loses her powers, and becomes young

[tawdry olive]

yea age and form when it comes to Shinobu is.... weird

this is my chance to shill monogatari

[finite quail]

the 3000 year old dragon girl who looks like a twelve year old:

classic japan

[bleak quiver]

uh, one second

[finite quail]

looks like boss rush

no

Boss rush and feared rotation?

[nova lake]

i mean yes but i wanna know about the maps

[finite quail]

what about them

[short prairie]

Ye I don’t watch anime idk what those are

[finite quail]

same cookie cutter boss rush setup

[nova lake]

and here...

[short prairie]

But the pfp looked like an adult to me

[normal hedge]

wym

[bleak quiver]

its all here

[normal hedge]

thats the easiest part to figure out

[earnest raven]

Who dis?

[normal hedge]

its senses

[earnest raven]

Shes kinda hot

[bleak quiver]

its Hyrri

[nova lake]

i wanted to know if the same scrabs and map rolls have been used in those i marked yellow, and in the others

[normal hedge]

thats prolly awakening scarab

[nova lake]

but i think no..?

[normal hedge]

i suppose

• pandemonium

[short prairie]

Hyrri

[nova lake]

i mean yes that part is clear but i care about that amount of maps 😄

[normal hedge]

oxitono explained

[normal hedge]

here

[short prairie]

Kaom and hyrri are black

Kaom is king

Hyrri his niece

We need the story of kaom?

Did we ever meet him?

Or he just dedge

[bleak quiver]

1: Terrors haunted mansion, refeer to test 1; 2: terros haunted again, different setup, refer to test 2

3: terros haunted again, refer to test 3; 2: white city squares with interference refer to test 3; 3: white city squares with interference refer to test 2;

there, all of them with explicit references

[short prairie]

@bleak quiver every time I see your name, in my head it’s oxycodone oxycontin

[nova lake]

-Awakening, Terrors, 2x Domination, +1 of: pandemonium / Domination

[bleak quiver]

first time hearing that one

[short prairie]

[bleak quiver]

notes at the start explain when to use pand and when to use third domination

[bleak quiver]

its a weird name, heard some references like that before

[nova lake]

i did run last week, was playing with it for 2 days, testing only terror, only pandemonium, mix of it, different maps
but i guess i will play later today again with it...

[bleak quiver]

from my testings at least, 8mod conqueror haunted mansions are the best balance of fun/h and d/h

white city square with just interference and awakening is significantly better, but holy shit its fucking boring as fuck

[nova lake]

i mean for printing huge amounts of astrolabes i am using now titan with 8mod 80%+ map roll

and i dont know why i am not getting mirage map drops at all

[bleak quiver]

which map and what else?

[nova lake]

pandemonium and awakening

[bleak quiver]

city square?

[nova lake]

2 titan and lineage

[bleak quiver]

city square or mansion?

[nova lake]

nah haunted is much better

[bleak quiver]

ok

for mirage maps haunted is indeed better

[nova lake]

city fails so many times at spawning the bosses from the awakened

and haunted in general will spawn more bosses from pandemonium

[bleak quiver]

the way to increase mirage map drops is a balance of more bosses, more map% and quantity, however, mirage maps are WAY worse forr d/h than astrolabes, and they only care about bosses and quant

[nova lake]

yeah i know, dont care about d/h

[bleak quiver]

pretty evident by my test n2 having 3x the mirage maps, and almost half the profit

they do make a fun sound tho

[nova lake]

since i am not selling most of the stuff, mirage maps i would keep for my self and all currency chisels

[bleak quiver]

yeah, if you are running them its def the most "implicit"(?) profit

specially for originator ones, 4d each hurts

[nova lake]

what i noticed too, when i use pandemonium i am getting more astrolabes less maps

when going with terror and 3 shrine scarabs i am getting more maps

[bleak quiver]

that makes sense, shrines like to spawn in clusters, meaing you have more of them in the mirage

while pand spreads a lot trough the map, which are not guaranteed to be hit by the mirage, but overall more bosses

[nova lake]

ah ok thas how u meant it

[bleak quiver]

i think that i didnt note it properly, but that test 2 which has shit ton of maps uses 3 domination scarabs, while test 1 uses pand

they shot up do 120c during that time for some reason

now that they are back i got 200x to be safe

[nova lake]

thats a lot astrolabes, if i remember right i got like in 30min 6-8 and over 10 normal mirage +4 originator-mirage

[vocal tinsel]

i think i did okay on temple gamba

[bleak quiver]

quant significantly boosts the amount of astrolabes, specially compared to how it affects mirage maps (at least 60% less effective)

[nova lake]

will just run couple more today 😄

ty for the info btw

[bleak quiver]

np, i just like to fill spreadsheets and notes

will probably be runing 100 or so maps of the best performing strat to get some numbers going

[hard cliff]

you did

[vocal tinsel]

[hard cliff]

https://youtu.be/L0FyB2hkVSw

this is a fun video

he's really good at trade league lol

[bleak quiver]

strat also allows me to finish the space claw wall, didnt notice they were all in sync before

[normal hedge]

@short prairie are you sleeping?

[cosmic eagle]

👴 did you even sleep bud
we game later

[short prairie]

?

[short prairie]

?

Game now

[normal hedge]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01KNWF1TQS3A21RH6D2E0F2KFG/4x.webp

[short prairie]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01KNWF1TQS3A21RH6D2E0F2KFG/4x.webp

[analog nest]

Guys quick question , if I don't want to invest in a lot of projectiles with soulrend of the spiral , is it better to have greater multiple projectiles or just multiple projectiles ?

Since just adding +2 should give me the shotgun in the front , if I don't want to invest in another full rotation

Saying this for SSF since I would need to farm for a dying sun to get 11 proj with GMP

[fossil glen]

Hi guys i have a question. If I have petrified blood activated, am i automatically considered to be in Low Life?

[tranquil umbra]

no you still actually need to be below 50/55%

PBlood just maintains you at that HP if you don't use life flasks to cap up

[livid quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-dog-bark-ragebait-succesful-gif-13695976480928012940

[brave goblet]

i started plsying like an hour ago and im level 20

im wondering at what point do i get to like

do stuff

[tranquil sedge]

wdym

first long-term goal is to finish the campaign, 10 acts

your build will come online as you level up and unlock more passives + skill gems + gear

[short prairie]

64 ish

[tranquil sedge]

long term players consider the campaign the 'tutorial', to give you some context

[brave goblet]

as in when my vuild starts like

doing something

[brave goblet]

o

[tranquil sedge]

that depends on your build?

[brave goblet]

alright

[tranquil sedge]

i mean you can use whatever skills you want whenever you want

[brave goblet]

approximately how long does that take

[tranquil sedge]

as you level up more you'll find gear that lets you socket more support gems to link to your main skill

[brave goblet]

to finish the campaign i mean

[tranquil sedge]

and levelling up + ascending (subclassing) will unlock more player power

[thick goblet]

first time is usually 15-30 hours

[tranquil sedge]

first time playthrough wouldn't be surprised if u spent 15-20h or more

[thick goblet]

veterans are usually 4-10 hours

[brave goblet]

are all of the skill gems droppable from normal sources

as in do i have to do anything special to get any of them

[tranquil sedge]

once you reach act 3 there's an unlockable vendor that lets you buy most of the base skill gems for a nominal cost

[brave goblet]

alright

[tranquil sedge]

and in act 6 there's a vendor that sells all the base skill gems (including any that the act 3 vendor doesn't sell)

[brave goblet]

i feel so poor

[thick goblet]

you can get variants of skill gems by completing the labyrinth

[tranquil sedge]

the campaign is balanced around not requiring trading with players so dw

[brave goblet]

is trade important

[tranquil sedge]

the early acts are the slowest

[brave goblet]

im hitting them with a wet noodle

[tranquil sedge]

yeah but that's later for you, for now its just focus on campaign

[tranquil sedge]

that's a separate issue, wat are you using

[brave goblet]

i picked duelist

[tranquil sedge]

lets move this chat to #1┃new-player-in-campaign-help

continue there

[fossil glen]

Does evolving shrine work with unstable breaches?

[tranquil sedge]

sadge i want more quad tabs

[nova lion]

:]

[scarlet horizon]

Is it worth doing saresh belt farm now?

[nova lion]

that's gamba
if you don't like gambas then not worth of doing

[frigid wedge]

noice

4 tp 5

[wheat sinew]

Mr bombastic destroy the fantastic

[rancid seal]

quad tabs 🤓 make me blind

[short prairie]

One day Sans will play Warframe

[rancid seal]

Ew my bf try to make me play warframe

[short prairie]

Wdym ew

[rancid seal]

i try to make him play poe

[short prairie]

Lmao

[rancid seal]

we end up playing diablo 4

[short prairie]

Why not both

[wheat sinew]

One is more casual friendly xD

[rancid seal]

coz he hate poe now followed complex weird builds

not mine 😛

[zinc stump]

Just tell him to rf

[rancid seal]

he was RF 😭

[zinc stump]

How is that complex

Wha

[rancid seal]

coz he was weird rf

[zinc stump]

Ivory rf

[wheat sinew]

Oh no was it scion rf

[rancid seal]

marauder but

full rare items

[wheat sinew]

Heh that's the simplest variant

[rancid seal]

like shield with 5% of max hp recover on block

with 5k hp

[wheat sinew]

Please tell me they followed pohx

[short prairie]

He didn’t

I bet

[rancid seal]

1 sec

[zinc stump]

If i get one of those clickbaot vids i exit stage

[short prairie]

Would you like an uber uber super duper dan video?

Budget build all uniques 200m dps

[zinc stump]

Dan is hot so yes

[frigid wedge]

which Dan

[zinc stump]

Every dan

And if you disagree sans I'll fight you over it covered in grease in a mud pit

[short prairie]

The Dan twitch emote guy?

You like that type I see

[zinc stump]

I do not discriminate

Meet me in the mud pits senses

[frigid wedge]

i was debating pinging dan w helpful but hes offline

[zinc stump]

Ping anyways

[short prairie]

Why did I get the “when the lights are off they are all the same” type of vibe

[zinc stump]

Idk you tell me

[dark sequoia]

I just tried to make ignite lightning strike

[short prairie]

Can’t tell

So, would Sans try out Warframe? Endgame is fashioning your Warframe

@frigid wedge

[gentle field]

where do i ask for help with the fucking sekhemas?

[short prairie]

#2┃general ?

[gentle field]

ohh damn sorry

[wheat sinew]

uh oh

[tacit crow]

yo

[mental nymph]

Hi

[short prairie]

Hey

[rough field]

Tuff

[frigid wedge]

huh?

[nova lake]

is there one that gives me a bigger circle? 😄

[frigid wedge]

not around the keystone

[nova lake]

i would like to have that thing..

[frigid wedge]

too bad

[nova lake]

and a jewel that gives a decent amount of crit?

unique not watcher

[wheat sinew]

Mulit or chance

Cuz for multi just craft a good rare

For chance there is a grand spectrum

[frigid wedge]

dude M isnt ur build like 5 mirrors

how do you have so little knowledge

[cobalt blade]

For crit chance theres also bound by destiny for base crit

is okay if you have uniques to chance for that

[frigid wedge]

i love that bbd went from: oh yeah i gotta use specific rares
to
how many chanceable uniques are in this build

[cobalt blade]

lol partially due to how strong reflected jewellery is tbh

And then screams ontop making gull a viable chance target(if painful one if you want implicits or over corrupt)

[frigid wedge]

its wardloop

so

[nova lake]

just the head is 70% od that what u named xD

and u dont have to have knowledge to follow a, for that part...

[frigid wedge]

you have to have enough knowledge to make that much currency without rmt

[nova lake]

bruh pls.. xD

farming and building a build are two different worlds

[frigid wedge]

i seem to remember yesterday u told us that 70% of ur currency was specifically from NOT farming

im also fairly sure u asked how to use a chromatic orb last week

[nova lake]

plenty people out there who can write u pages how to farm currency but still following build guides

[nova lake]

i did not ask how to use a chromatic for sure...

or it was white socket related... xD

[frigid wedge]

my point is mostly: for the amount of currency you have, the lack of game knowledge makes you seem very suspicious and its not a great look

not accusing u of anything but its smth to keep in mind

[nova lake]

what people are telling me since i started playing and will stay like that probably for the coming future

but understanding map modifiers and knowing every item in the game is something different

[frigid wedge]

no one knows all of it

[nova lake]

or looking at faustus and understanding the markets so, what is in demand and what is not

[frigid wedge]

theres a lotta great web pages that summarise the information you need

eg
poe ninja
craft of exile
maps of exile
poedb
the poe wiki

a lot of us just get our info there and then discuss it

with other ppl

like i couldnt always tell u if smth is a prefix or a suffix but if ive got craft of exile open i can probably make a crafting method for the item

a lot of the info for poe is pretty easy to find

[mental nymph]

[nova lake]

i got the pob for my build from windu, and its changed, most of builds i seen on poe ninja are not even finished or stuck at timeless jewel...

[mental nymph]

UnkownM,at what league did you start playing the game ?

Out of curiosity

[frigid wedge]

yes because the timeless jewel is bloody expensive

what were you playing BEFORE you got the timeless

[nova lake]

settlers... and if SansShoto would see my char from settlers he would be screaming RMT lol

[mental nymph]

Ah so youre a new player

Gotcha

[frigid wedge]

no im just explaining why it seems like rmt

I literally said im not accusing u of anything

idgaf if ur rmting, it doesnt affect me

it just makes you look bad

[nova lake]

the farming part got covered by windu and picture, in the first weeks of the game 😄

[frigid wedge]

noice

ur doing breach atm rn?

considering the 6 to 7 div per map

[nova lake]

atm i am doing something.. stuff i crafted doesnt sell so i gave away full build to two people..

[frigid wedge]

ok were you doing breach though

[nova lake]

did try something i thought is a good strat this week at i am just camping in my hideout and looking if i can or should even upgrade my char

[nova lake]

yes

i mean i talked with empress yesterday about breach and u have been here

[frigid wedge]

how were u dealing with flask siphoners

[nova lake]

staying out of range since i dont die to them

[frigid wedge]

im here for a lot of things, i had to deal with like 200 ppl irl yesterday

[nova lake]

i have more range then their aura has range

[frigid wedge]

fair enough

[nova lake]

and in breach i dont even notice it cause of the amount of dmg

[frigid wedge]

how many iron flasks were u usin? bc im p sure ur build normally just insta dies if ur flask charges dont work

for any amount of time

[nova lake]

they die fast enough so that i dont really care, only when i run titan scarabs and they end up with some tanky mods

[frigid wedge]

the aura prevents you gaining flask charges so im impressed you have enough aoe to hit them in every direction

[nova lake]

no, u just stop looping

[frigid wedge]

some of them hit too hard

w self dmg

[nova lake]

so when they hit me i am full hp and my ward is up

[frigid wedge]

mm

if i play ward stacker this league I'll probably just use shield crush or smth

[nova lake]

the only thing that kills kills me is if something blocks my regen

i nuke my self

[frigid wedge]

kek

[cobalt blade]

I assume you mean recoup not regen

[nova lake]

but them stopping my loop, is the same when i am looping, same max hit at that moment they cant break trough

[frigid wedge]

for 1 hit

[cobalt blade]

But uh the problem with siphoner is you get hit cant gain charges ward is now down until siphoner debuff is gone(get fucked if your shit targeteed smth other than siphoner) die

[nova lake]

not only, i mean sirus his red puddles, and runes mod

[cobalt blade]

yes those disable all recovery

[nova lake]

that zaps me insta out of existence 😄

[cobalt blade]

recoup and regen are separate things and recoup is nigh infinite recovery for loopers lol

to the point any regen does literally nothing

[nova lake]

recoup doesnt even do that much

its more the 5% gained on flask use

[cobalt blade]

objectively incorrect

Just objectively

Your taking phys damage from heartbound loop a billion times w second

that all gets converted to recoup

[nova lake]

on 0.06sec

which gets reduced by phys reduction

if i did understand it right

[cobalt blade]

yep so however many skeletons you have that many times a second /*heartbound loop number +recoup%

[cobalt blade]

Yuh

but even if you have 90 pdr vs the heartbound loop number its still stupid recoup

[nova lake]

i mean it does something for sure but i never went deeper in to it since i didnt care, i did care to the point cause i roll my breach maps my self

and if i get reflect with 1 other good pack mod +3 currency mods

i wanna keep that map ofc, so i just got a cheap ring that has 100% reflect immune that i use for that map

[cold sable]

why

[cobalt blade]

self damage from heartbound loop

[nova lake]

removing all my recoup at that point and i dont die

so thats how much i did care about it 😄

[frigid wedge]

yeah bc ur a very specific looper that doesn't give a shit

[cold sable]

yeah but the self damage is like only 30

cuz 90% armor reduction

[cobalt blade]

And happens x amount of times a second*3-4 skeletons depending on gem level

[cold sable]

hmm

[cobalt blade]

x being your trigger rate

[nova lake]

i guess i should say ty to Windu 😄

but i have to think twice about that...

[frigid wedge]

the current wardloop build doesnt actually take any large amount of dmg from looping

it just loses life to skill cost

[nova lake]

everything from that build was not on the market or for stupid amounts listed, i divined timeless jewels to get the right one, i made each of the parts my self, i crafted each of the clusters my self

[frigid wedge]

w blood magic

[nova lake]

i divined my staff my self, i got the head my self

i wasted like 3k on my stupid ring

[cobalt blade]

ye but its offset by again the amount of triggers

which reaches a ludicrous amount lol

[cold sable]

my skeletons trigger once every 2 server ticks

[frigid wedge]

every trigger hits the ward tho
its still not actually taking life dmg iirc

its just costs

[cold sable]

thats what i thought also

[cobalt blade]

taking ward damage gives recoup still

[cold sable]

no way

[cobalt blade]

and it lets you stand on dot ground or run rf

[frigid wedge]

yeah but it doesnt need to do damage anymore

to loop

it can literally hit for 2

[dark kite]

managed to get one with 4 easy regen runes and one that costs like 6 points, in shadow area, for 14d; good deal?

[cobalt blade]

yuh but it still does some lol

[frigid wedge]

if u get it with 4 u need slightly weaker mediums iirc

bc u gotta get more flask charge stuff

[cold sable]

not rly

just fasting + pressure points should do it

[frigid wedge]

i mean, u get 2 less flask charges per break at baseline

[cold sable]

i have a 4 one

[frozen venture]

Any good starter builds for vaal league around monk?

[frigid wedge]

arent u pathfinder tho

[dark kite]

you can check it yourself, its 477 uhtred at ghost reaver

[nova lake]

are u building the same thing i have?

[cold sable]

oh

pf is kinda op yeah

[frigid wedge]

#2┃build-planning

[silent leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/type-shit-gif-9671693580023997426

[cold sable]

u could uhh

[frigid wedge]

they're playing some variant of wardloop, idk if its jiquanis or ward shatter tho

[cold sable]

drop a pressure points for fasting + spiked and then also get 10% more from skill tree

ggez

[frozen venture]

Ty

[nova lake]

cause if its mine i can give them my old timeless

probably not going to sell

[frigid wedge]

they already got one i believe

[cold sable]

buy my gloves

[nova lake]

but its a good one... and if they follow the pob i followed my build is better 😛

and i still have clusters that fix the 5mirror head

[frigid wedge]

it depends on which ward loop they're gonna play

not everyone wants hexblast jiquanis

[nova lake]

loses a bit dps but still better then getting that head

[cold sable]

what head

[nova lake]

i know... i did say if its the same build i am running

[frigid wedge]

probably a +2 minion + leech faithguard

[cold sable]

what could possibly be 5 mirrors about the unique helm

i mean +2 minion kinda doesnt do anything because of awakened empower right

[frigid wedge]

the exact double corrupted helm put into the main pob ppl follow will be pretty expensive

[cold sable]

i guess

[frigid wedge]

regardless of what mods are useful

[cold sable]

they should then buy my 1mir gloves with 590 ward

[nova lake]

but i mean if its for that socket then i have the timeless that fits for a decent amount of points... 😄

[cold sable]

[nova lake]

https://pobb.in/xx_-4IQ_D2WD

this build uses one i can use too...

[cold sable]

40k ward

[nova lake]

and is shatter

[cold sable]

does sabo make the 1tick breakpoint on 40k

[nova lake]

no idea how that one works, the guy who carried me in labs, gave me his pob...

[cobalt blade]

judging this for not having a qualitied hat

[frigid wedge]

i mean, i think u make the tick point at like 35k dont you