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cobalt blade
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and dr

short prairie
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Oh wait

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I forgor they changed champ

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Nvm

cobalt blade
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lol

short prairie
cobalt blade
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ye it do be a broken node

onyx adder
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Ye it went from useless to mandatory on champ

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Even if u want to play some bow champ that goes right

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Ur going left and also fuck u

short prairie
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One large inc cluster can solve your problem

cobalt blade
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even on glad you steal it

short prairie
cobalt blade
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consider glad is either going dot = not enough hit to get fortify or its doing valdos in trade = too much DR to get fortify

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and masterful form requries alot more to use than perma 20dr

short prairie
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I’m flicker brained

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Don’t mind me

cobalt blade
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understandable (flicker bad)

short prairie
cobalt blade
limpid prairie
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They are looking at me :s

short prairie
covert ferry
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eyes up here, buddy

short prairie
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What do you call this phobia again?

cobalt blade
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scopophobia? i think but i could also see that tab triggering trypophobia

short prairie
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Trypophobia yes

covert ferry
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I'm thinking lab farm for quality on gems for 10-15% more dps as well

onyx adder
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Theyre all ided

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So crappyitemphobia

short prairie
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There could be an op triple precision watchers there

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You never know

cobalt blade
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isnt the only combo for that attack speed crit multi and flask charge on crit

short prairie
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Attack damage aspd crit multi

cobalt blade
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oh i forgot there was inc damage

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fair enough

short prairie
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Flaks charge is good too

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I never run out of wurm jars

onyx adder
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Flask charge precision is fine it just doesnt stack very well and theres a few sources of it so its kinda narrow

tawdry jasper
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is there a website that shows when the next stash tab sale is?

cobalt blade
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its use case is sustaining a unique flask with mageblood

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otherwise fucking worthless

short prairie
cobalt blade
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or sorry top middle apparently

short prairie
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Non MB with tides works too

cobalt blade
short prairie
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Or non tides

tawdry jasper
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found it

cobalt blade
short prairie
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As long as you crit and multi hit

cobalt blade
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aka its shit

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multi hit does not matter

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ICD of 0.1s

short prairie
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Df

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If it has ICD then ye its ded

cobalt blade
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if you have mageblood your other flasks are full so it always goes to the unique flasks

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which is what makes it useable

lean phoenix
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first time ever i fully completed basic maven memory games without dying only took 200div flicker strike build

short prairie
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Swap to double strike or frenzy of onslaught

cobalt blade
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senses

lean phoenix
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didnt knew changing builds makes my brain better to remember memory game

short prairie
cobalt blade
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yup

onyx adder
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U wouldnt use a watcher mod for that tho

cobalt blade
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ye its fine on a single flask

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maybe 2 at most

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have used it to sustain diamond before

short prairie
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Charge on crit on flask is only like 30%

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This is guaranteed

cobalt blade
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ye but its single flask so you can actually sustain it if you average 7-8 charges a second

short prairie
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I take the 3 charges when hit by enemy all day

cobalt blade
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like coc DD during necropolis you sustained diamond easily from the amount of hits

short prairie
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Never played a DD build myself

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I assume it scales with aoe too?

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Like pops?

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And explodes

cobalt blade
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yes but thats its natural aoe

onyx adder
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For normal builds that get to not stand in dumb shit, crit is a good option for one flask

short prairie
onyx adder
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Especially for fights like uber eater that dont have adds

crimson abyss
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question
has there been any case in poe1 where you could transfer with recomb an exclusive mod present only on x base into y base? If so, how did it work? and did ggg change it?

karmic gust
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thats how original recombs worked yes

onyx adder
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Thats old recomb

crimson abyss
crimson abyss
onyx adder
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Yes

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U used to be able to do this shit

crimson abyss
cobalt blade
onyx adder
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Which, if not that powerful, was at least very funny

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Practically it let u run around with giga items in every slot ofc

short prairie
cobalt blade
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the powerful thing was suppress on ES bases xd

short prairie
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just fracture everything?

real spoke
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John Fracture

onyx adder
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Are u new or something lul

crimson abyss
onyx adder
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Man missed out on all the broken shit

short prairie
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i started in settlers

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3.25

cobalt blade
onyx adder
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Oh

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U missed literally all the really broken things

cobalt blade
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2 never had the ability to move exclusives that shouldnt exist with recombs

onyx adder
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Dw ggg will make more

kindred silo
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pretty sure it could also be done in necro

short prairie
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we have the most broken belt ever

cobalt blade
short prairie
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so ggg is still cooking

cobalt blade
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necro was even dumber

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we had fractured influenced items instead

onyx adder
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Most of the rly broken shit historically cost less than 5 mirrors

dry tree
dry tree
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You became so large all you were was knees on screen

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Good times

cobalt blade
cobalt blade
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but i also just really dont like HH

onyx adder
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I remember seeing the original cluster jewel passive list for the first time

short prairie
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so chracter size + 5000%?

onyx adder
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Before league launch

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There was so much unprintably powerful stuff i didnt know where to start

cobalt blade
dry tree
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Old HH took a build with 100k dps and no speed and you'd be able to clear basically anything insanely fast once you got going

karmic gust
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i think if we had old hh now it wouldnt even be close as we have a lot more rares and magic mobs in general

onyx adder
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Yer

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Legion hh was busted

crimson abyss
onyx adder
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3.28 legion hh would be more busted

dry tree
nocturne maple
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hh rn gives souls

dry tree
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Old HH stacked mods

crimson abyss
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oh ok

karmic gust
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soul eater used to be uncapped, but thats pretty recent change and yeae you could stack as many modsas you wanted

dry tree
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If you got +50% aoe and +50% damage three times in a row you just had +150% to both

karmic gust
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instead of being capped per type like you are now

dry tree
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It was way better

cobalt blade
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idk i think shrine belt is overall significantly better than old HH for raw consistency though it would be silly for charlathan builds/always better for mapping since even current hh is

dry tree
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New rare monster mods are just weaker and they don't stack

nocturne maple
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archnemesis really just messed it all up ScuffSad

cobalt blade
dry tree
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And billion speed

cobalt blade
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and then you got shroudwalkered and cried

dry tree
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You got everything

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You just couldn't loot til the map was over

cobalt blade
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and youd die to a ground effect you didnt notice well looting

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because you had no defence

karmic gust
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well your HH buffs also lasted 2 minutes

nocturne maple
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self temp chains raaa

dry tree
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Longest 20 seconds of your life

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Sounds like something my wife would say

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Tough crowd

nocturne maple
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well, you tried. here's a cookie 🍪

wheat sinew
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:( +2 lightning res

tranquil sedge
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rares are now 50% stronger and drop 5% more loot

dry tree
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Huge

rocky glade
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First time a HH came from Ritual and I'm not happy

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Why is it 3div kek

lean urchin
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less demand?

rocky glade
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Why couldn't it dropped earlier so I can sell it for 50

short prairie
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@split maple

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holy f

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first time

lean urchin
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only from the last chests? or also inside a random trove

short prairie
lean urchin
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cant u say yes or no im already youtubing pls

short prairie
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trove only

lean urchin
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silver chest, div card, troves

cold sable
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wow

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2 natural seers back to back

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first 2 maps of new strategy

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XD

full fossil
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@short prairie did lighty quit his all for one series?

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havent seen him uploadthat in forever

short prairie
full fossil
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touche

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i cant sleep

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even though i took my sleeping meds

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feels badge

short prairie
vocal tinsel
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its a good layout day for them on merc lab

spice pecan
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are they just like turbo omega rare from end chests

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or do you have to do silver keys

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lab chests/eternal lab is like the one thing i dont think ive ever interacted with in the game

lean urchin
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SILVER CHESTS can drop it, or LABYRINTH TROVES

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silver chests not being the key dropping one

cobalt blade
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but do you drop it

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D:

spice pecan
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yeah imma be real

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idk what any of this is

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pretty sure these are just made up

dusty mesa
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I’ve had one grand spectrum drop once when I was leveling in league start

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I’ve yet to see another one but I also never do lab other than leveling

lean urchin
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ive only had the 1/1 div card from armourer strongbox

bleak quiver
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imagine not 6linking your IC

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kitchen is burning down

full kraken
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60 replica BPs later:

bleak quiver
cosmic eagle
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Nice haul for 60, some of the replicas are deadass dogshit or just there for unique collection

full kraken
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okay so what farming strat tagrets nightmare maps, eater invites, and blueprints?

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cuz I encounter a lot of people exclusively selling a stash tab with a mix of pretty much just that

cosmic eagle
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Interference boss rush strat using conq maps for maven witness

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Or awakening terrors same boss rush strat

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Both generates shitloads of nightmare maps

tranquil sedge
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i do wanna try it.

cosmic eagle
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You get tons of maven chisels per map, id say i did average 6-10, 1-3 nightmares and tons of conq/shaper/elder maps

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For the interference its just for conq/elder/shaper map, astrolabes, conq orbs ofc and nightmare maps

tranquil sedge
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how do you run the strats* i meant

cosmic eagle
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Uhm you maven witness rota conq maps in city square for interference, do kirac 4 way for conqs and repeat, as for terrors awakening i used full mirage to maximize the gains

tranquil sedge
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scarabs/atlas?

granite nexus
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i wish it was new poe1 league coming up and not 2 🙁

tranquil sedge
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people are still playing it 😛

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the poe2 league is late anyway

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it should have already started now-ish

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month end is technically a delay

cosmic eagle
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For interference the main points is just for the maven witness nodes really, combo it with anything that is passive like eagon memory, originator maps and heist caches

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For awakening terrors same maven witness nodes but you need shrines this time since you need your maps to have multiple shrines with bosses in them, awakening terrors and 3 domi scarabs

tranquil sedge
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A Map Boss is accompanied by a random Shaper Guardian, Elder Guardian, Conqueror or Synthesis Boss
Can only be used with Tier 14+ Maps

This effect is applied to bosses that are spawned from Destructive Play.[1]

so on city square, its 3 default bosses, plus one from interference, plus whatever maven summons for DP, plus one more boss for each summoned DP boss?

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tons of maven chisels per map, id say i did average 6-10
thats a lot heck

cosmic eagle
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The strat is actually fun until someone screams MEMES TO AND END, GAZE INTO ABYSS AND SIRUS AND DIE ALL AT ONCE

tranquil sedge
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how are you getting that many chisels a map tho, confused

cosmic eagle
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Coz terrors spawns random invite bosses xdd or awakening 1 of em does that

tranquil sedge
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awakening does

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even with perfect rng on awakening scarab, a feared summon = 5 bosses and each boss drops a chisel, that's like 5 chisels right?

cosmic eagle
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Thats why i use mirage to double it up

tranquil sedge
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oh mirage

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forgot to account for that fair enough

tranquil sedge
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reason to build strong 😄

cosmic eagle
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Yep when you get the feared it's so fun xdd

tranquil sedge
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brb gotta do chores

drowsy eagle
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no do it tomorrow

brave summit
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Maybe 2 per map?

cosmic eagle
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Like i said full mirage map xdd

molten socket
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Where do you guys usually buy Divine Orbs?

thick goblet
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faustus

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unless you're asking about rmt, which is against tos and a waste of your money

limpid prairie
molten socket
brave summit
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That's a really odd statement

cosmic eagle
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your divine this league goes to the sewers a.k.a standard buddy

thick goblet
final owl
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troll bait or moon person. the investigation begins

limpid prairie
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Damm people dont say RMT is against he rules straight up
Probe them a little bit

cosmic eagle
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ill probe them myself

limpid prairie
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Let them dig their own grave i want a ban or a warning

cosmic eagle
molten socket
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🥹

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Can't wait for the next league to start.

limpid prairie
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Yeah its starting soon right?

final owl
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.. no? unless you mean 2. and this is the channel for 1.

molten socket
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What are you guys league starting next league?

cobalt blade
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the build playable based on patch notes

molten socket
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ok thanks

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POE2 0.5 goes live on May 30th.

cosmic eagle
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i will league start Raven Fire

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what a weird ass skill ngl

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yeah it's so weird tying RF with minion

cobalt blade
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isnt it also a boss drop unique

cosmic eagle
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poe1 using RF for minion pact bv? jonathan takes notes goes to the office and said ok i know how to implement rf in poo2, make it a minion skill

onyx adder
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Poe1 has minion RF anyway

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It just does no damage

cobalt blade
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when tf did discord add that lmao

onyx adder
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Would be fun if infernal legion didnt suck

cobalt blade
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funky

cosmic eagle
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wrong move adding lambie, he will then start sending mr beast messages

cobalt blade
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i didnt get it when other ppl here sent a friend request

onyx adder
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Ew friends

final owl
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probably because those epeople had mutual friends or servers

cosmic eagle
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some dude added me here and start sending screenshots about some mr beast stuff xdd

onyx adder
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I am sad

final owl
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there are far worse things to be DM'd I guess

cobalt blade
onyx adder
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U disrespect the best platform

cobalt blade
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Thats clearly linux smh

cosmic eagle
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yow wtf

cobalt blade
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lmao

cosmic eagle
onyx adder
cosmic eagle
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dont send mrbeast stuff here, screenshot it or bot will shoot your cheeks

finite quail
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I am back gamers

final owl
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Am I the only one confused about why anyone would send anyone mr beast anything

finite quail
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I edited one of those mrbeast scam pictures into a meme and the bot slapped me out of existence for it

cosmic eagle
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yep mrbeast stuff is a scam

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i think it's about joining 1 of his crypto stuff or something

finite quail
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It probably recognizes most of the picture cause I edited out everything about crypto from it lmfao

final owl
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ah yes, crypto schemes, the domain of galaxy brain investors

finite quail
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Galaxy brain rugpullers

limpid prairie
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I think i heard a kid created a crypto coing and cashed 10K by rug pulling crypto + being pitful

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Truly the future

final owl
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there are more scams than not-scams in that arena seemingly

cosmic eagle
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it's a funny scam coz these mofos sends low quality screenshots

final owl
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scams are all about that low hanging fruit. taking candy from babies essentially

cosmic eagle
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idk if this server gets the occasional, HEY GUYS SUPPORT MY PROJECT YOU WILL GET EZ 10,000$ for doing so

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but in some channels ive been to lots of bots sends that particular message xdd

cobalt blade
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Its mostly the mrbeast scams here from what ive seen kek

finite quail
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and expect them to have any amount of investment value whatsoever

final owl
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i mean if you manage to not be the one left holding the bag it "works" I guess

finite quail
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Oh sure it works if you do that

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But you're literally commiting a crime doing that, soooo

hard cliff
finite quail
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Not a small one either

hard cliff
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but it's time to figure it out

molten socket
hard cliff
cobalt blade
hard cliff
molten socket
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poe2

hard cliff
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sounds fake

final owl
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if you're keen to discuss poe2 there is a channel for that

short prairie
cobalt blade
short prairie
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50 labs dry

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no grand spectrums

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after i got my first one

cosmic eagle
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@tranquil sedge my city square got witnessed, but this is what awakening terrors loots looks like xdd

cobalt blade
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3 whole splinters Pogott

cobalt gale
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should i spec into toxic rain? it shreds bosses and is good at ad clear too

cobalt blade
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wth is your definition of shredding bosses

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ive never seen a tr build that has actual boss damage

cosmic eagle
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shit roll, i did not get the feared i think they were shaper/elder guardians they exploded before i touched them xdd

cobalt gale
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not instakilling but still good damage

cobalt blade
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like 10-20m uber dot?

cobalt gale
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idk i havent made it to maps yet

cobalt blade
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or 2-4m regular

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or what

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Although if you mean for campaign fair almost everything shreds there

final owl
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shredding bosses in campaign does not really say a lot about the skills viability for doing tthe same in maps

cobalt gale
cosmic eagle
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i like your name bud

cobalt blade
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average ranger experience Pogott

rocky glade
cobalt blade
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But uh tr is an okay mapper/rly good for cloister farming specifically since proxy shields far froma good bosser though

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if you just wanna vibe in maps is oki

rocky glade
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TR is gonna be rough at Nightmares

gritty epoch
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If mob is dead they can't hit you

opaque sphinx
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nerds

cobalt blade
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like you can for the most part still just run everything

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maybe avoiding less flask effect

onyx adder
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There was someone here hyping TR up for like

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Low tier beast farming or something

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The logic being it scales like absolute dog shit but it gives u good damage per chaos when the chaos axis is at 0

cosmic eagle
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hyping a build for a beast farm strat is uhm Despairge

onyx adder
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Theres ppl hyping builds for way worse farms so i dont mind as long as its carefully specified

cobalt blade
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for a beast farm i would argue it sucks since you cant isolate killing only the good beasts

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you kinda just dot anything in your general vicinity

opaque sphinx
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guuys guess what

cobalt blade
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and its damage isnt high enough you make up for that by blasting maps fast

cobalt blade
opaque sphinx
cobalt blade
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10% reserve too Pogott

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would you have gone agane if that min rolled

opaque sphinx
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nah, but at 7 or 9 maybe

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6/8/10 i can make workj with jewels

onyx adder
cobalt blade
opaque sphinx
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in my defense

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fuck else do u do with money

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making a mirror item takes like 6 of em and i cba grinding that

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been there, done that, fun and not worth it

tranquil sedge
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'ok damage on 0 budget' is dumb when u can just make the budget not 0 fast

short prairie
candid stag
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Best way to make this ? Reforge phys ?

tranquil sedge
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dense fossil

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  • exalt/annul or harvest reforge phys/more likely when u hit 1-2 good mods
opaque sphinx
tranquil sedge
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then lock prefix reforge phys for pdr

short prairie
candid stag
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Thanks

opaque sphinx
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only like 6x rate nbd

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that was all the negative luck we built up from the ring last league

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evens out i guess

opaque sphinx
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rage inducing

cold sable
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fr

hard cliff
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you need portal scrolls

cold sable
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the portal hotkey should just always work

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or they should make a infinite use one that drops from quest maven or smth

tranquil sedge
opaque sphinx
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construct additional pylons vibes

dry tree
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I think it's really not a big problem that needs solving

tranquil sedge
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rare boss drop that does exactly the same thing as a cheap everyday item, but infinite use

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but yea its a basically non-existent problem anyway

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portal gem is just that if u rly cant be bothered using scrolls

rancid sluice
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i keep a portal gem in my inv for these lovely situations

dry tree
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You can also just log out

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Free portal to you ho

tranquil sedge
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that's not a solution

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that's an emergency fix for when u can't get out of map

opaque sphinx
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wait yeah

tranquil sedge
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but not an actual gameplay solution

opaque sphinx
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i have 3 free sockets

onyx adder
opaque sphinx
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i can just use portal

dry tree
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I mean, it just doesn't need a gameplay solution

onyx adder
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So u can make urself run at 1000ms or whatever

cobalt blade
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you can also just have portal in weapon swap

tranquil sedge
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the solution already exists anyway

tranquil sedge
full kraken
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portal scrolls have no reason to exist tbh

dry tree
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You can carry 40 scrolls if you forget you just log out and grab 40 more no biggie

tranquil sedge
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they have plenty of reason to exist

onyx adder
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Idk im not doing it i just remember i was saying tr bad and someone who doesnt totally suck got very offended

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I forget who

tranquil sedge
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imagine having a slow fuckass portal just coz jonathan doesn't want you to teleport to hideout in 0.1s instead of 1s

full kraken
tranquil sedge
cold sable
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i mean if ur alr allowed to just log out

full kraken
cold sable
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infinite portal is nbd

tranquil sedge
cold sable
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why

tranquil sedge
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that should be considered

full kraken
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me declaring "portal scrolls are pointless" doesnt mean one should jump straight to having a long slow portal animation time

dry tree
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I think it's fine to have resources that are valuable early and pennies late

cold sable
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u can exit to char screen and instantly spwn in ur hideout

tranquil sedge
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we live in a world where jonathan is game director

dry tree
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Seems like a natural progression

tranquil sedge
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and we can literally see poe2 doing it

cold sable
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functionally the same as a portla scroll

full kraken
tranquil sedge
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how is that good gameplay

tranquil sedge
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they're both directors, on both games

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and we can't pretend the games don't influence each other

full kraken
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okay well, my stance is that portal button should be nearly instant, and portal scrolls shouldnt exist

tranquil sedge
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they port stuff back and forth

cold sable
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i mean it kinda makes portal scrolls meaningless especially as a currency

tranquil sedge
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this is incorrect

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portal scrolls are low value because they're common drops

cold sable
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they should give you a infinite one in act 1 as part of story

full kraken
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they stop having meaning past like act 2

cold sable
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gg

full kraken
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theres like literally only 2? 3? points in the game where you both need to drop a portal and dont have a morbillion of them

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actually... they removed one in fact

full kraken
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so now theres only 1? 2? remaining

cold sable
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but its not valuable

full kraken
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I dont think act 1 has any splits now iirc

cold sable
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like

full kraken
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act 2 has a split worth doing at uh... wait does it even have one anymore

tranquil sedge
full kraken
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no... it doesnt does it

cold sable
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it is valuable but the value trends to literally worthless

full kraken
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I literally dont think that portal scrolls matter for portals until... act 3?

tranquil sedge
full kraken
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at which point you should have infinite supply of them

full kraken
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nor do I care

tranquil sedge
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the guy i ^ just above

full kraken
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portal scrolls only use case is buying a couple things in act 1

tranquil sedge
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wrong

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you use them right now

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in every map

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that IS their use case

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if you dont like needing to use them thats fine

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doesnt change that it is their use case

full kraken
tranquil sedge
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who cares

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you got them didnt you somehow?

full kraken
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I dont pick up portal scrolls and use those

tranquil sedge
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so what

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i dont pick up alts

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i still use them

opaque sphinx
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someone smorter than me tell me the odds of hitting a +3 shavs

tranquil sedge
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it has the % for each corruption

full kraken
opaque sphinx
cold sable
#

i guess somone is making money by picking up portal scrolls and faustusing them since 99% of players who make it to t16 maps have those things hidden

full kraken
#

portal scrolls only are worth picking up for like 0.1% of the game

thick goblet
tranquil sedge
#

well
people do pick up portals

thick goblet
#

idk i just made it up

tranquil sedge
#

just not you

opaque sphinx
#

all same weight

#

hmm

full kraken
cold sable
#

yeah but what if people didnt have to pick them up

tranquil sedge
#

broad assumptions

full kraken
#

a very very very tiny slice

tranquil sedge
#

portal gem

#

or as you said

#

log out, right?

cold sable
#

yes

full kraken
#

if you are picking them up outside that slice, you are hopefully on your first playthrough and dont know yet how utterly pointless they are

tranquil sedge
#

so dont pick it up if you dont want to

#

that said, log out is a stupid option to suggest in a conversation about game design

full kraken
tranquil sedge
#

if they dont have portal scrolls in campaign

#

its also utterly garbage game design

#

and shouldn't be a thing

#

just like logout macros

full kraken
#

theres only like a couple spots in the acts where you actually want to use a portal

tranquil sedge
#

pixel

cold sable
#

i want portal scrolls, i dont want to see them on my filter, and i dont want to tech in portal gem or have to log out every time i run out

tranquil sedge
#

most people do not give a shit about tihs

cold sable
#

nobody is saying log out is good design btw its just the solution to a problem

tranquil sedge
#

i portal when i want to portal

full kraken
#

and then beyond that, you only drop portals in maps

And even then you dont use portal scrolls you pickup off the ground

tranquil sedge
#

of course i do

#

you're projecting very much

full kraken
onyx adder
#

Like are u cool with curse warcry

tranquil sedge
#

you dont pick up scrolls, so nobody does?

opaque sphinx
#

so 1/19 to hit +1 socket and then 1/9 to hit either +2 aoe or +2 duration

#

nah aoe or dura

tranquil sedge
#

you don['t use portals in campaign more than once or twice

#

so nobody does?

full kraken
tranquil sedge
#

i don't care

#

vast vast majority of people in this game don't give optimize to that extent

full kraken
#

like just sit and think for like three seconds about the fact you can convert transmutes into portal scrolls

tranquil sedge
#

so what

onyx adder
#

x2 because order

tranquil sedge
#

i know you can do that

cold sable
#

there exists players who make money selling portal scrolls on faustus to the 99% who have them hidden and bless their hearts

tranquil sedge
#

i do do that

onyx adder
#

And then probably ur ok with a +4

full kraken
#

so why the fuck would you pick up portal scrolls when you can pick up transmutes instead

opaque sphinx
#

nope

tranquil sedge
#

because i want to pick them up?

final owl
#

not everyone wants to think for that many seconds in a row in games. a startling truth.

full kraken
#

theyre literally portal scrolls.. but strictly better

tranquil sedge
#

because i dont think about picking themup?

#

i just do it?

#

because you're overthinking this too much?

scarlet horizon
#

Can you have multiple map scry onto a single map?

full kraken
opaque sphinx
#

+1 socketed is better cuz of empower and eclipse

onyx adder
#

Alright then its 1/400 or so

tranquil sedge
#

because they're useful?

opaque sphinx
#

FUCK

tranquil sedge
#

its one less trade i have to make on a vendor?

cold sable
#

wilted

tranquil sedge
#

because when i loot portals, i dont lose time?

onyx adder
#

Bit better i cbf to math

tranquil sedge
#

im looting them when im killing things

#

and even if it costs me 1 second to do it, who cares

full kraken
#

if the only reason a thing exists in the game is to be used by people who cant think for 3 seconds about using the actively strictly better option, then it should be removed

tranquil sedge
#

lmao

#

you might as well delete half the game then

#

most people aren't thinking about anything

#

follow guide click what guide says

full kraken
tranquil sedge
#

thats all most people do

tranquil sedge
#

and there's till be more to delete

#

if 'people do suboptimal shit' is the play

full kraken
cold sable
#

idk its not like its that crazy to give everyone a infinite use portal scroll

#

literally nothing would chage

tranquil sedge
cold sable
#

honestly they should make all portal gems come imbued with cast on death that would actually be fun

full kraken
#

then no, I wouldnt propose deleting "half the game"

tranquil sedge
#

if the only reason a thing exists in the game is to be used by people who cant think for 3 seconds
but there definitely is lots of this

tranquil sedge
#

except the cast animation is long as fuck

cold sable
#

okay so put it into poe1 without the bullshit

#

ez

opaque sphinx
#

pretty sure u can

tranquil sedge
full kraken
cold sable
#

yes u can already keybind portal instantly but it costs scrolls

#

nobody wants to carry them around

full kraken
#

you literally cut off halfway through my sentence and quoted it such that it made a completely different sentence

#

next time please for the love of god read the whole sentence before hitting the reply button

tranquil sedge
#

you're right i didn't read that sentence fully, that's on me, i got distracted by the other message

cold sable
#

but u kinda just do and if u run out then u get a small migraine

tranquil sedge
#

but i also disagree with the "actively strictly better option"

#

that's a subjective view

#

YOU think its better

full kraken
#

I honestly hold that like.... a solid 60% of the time when people disagree with me, its because they literally did not actually read everything I wrote

tranquil sedge
#

i mean

cold sable
#

why are u so seriously defending portal scrolls

tranquil sedge
#

i disagree with what you wrote

cold sable
#

what is so bad that could happen if they made them infinite

full kraken
tranquil sedge
#

i can pick up a scroll and use it immediately

#

if i pick up a transmute

#

i have to vendor it first

#

i get 4x the scrolls sure

#

i still have to vendor it

cold sable
#

incredible

#

but what does that change

tranquil sedge
#

with regard to infinite? nothing

tranquil sedge
cold sable
#

nobody wants to carry around scrolls or see them on their maps or have to rejuice on scrolls or have to log out when they run out

tranquil sedge
#

and if me bitching about things has even 0.01% chance that it prevents the game from becoming worse

#

i'll happily bitch about it

cold sable
#

or carry around a portal gen

full kraken
#

you are stapling an extra axiom on that no one else here is including in their discussion

tranquil sedge
#

except we have seen what that looks like in their other game

#

and it inspires zero confidence they could actually make it not shit in this game

cold sable
#

i dont care about their other game

#

i care about poe 1

tranquil sedge
#

except it has an active influence on poe1

#

and the same guy is one of the in-charges for both games

full kraken
#

I think both vyxi and I would probably agree that if we lost portal scrolls in return for a portal button that took 1s to do and could be interrupted, that would be bad

cold sable
#

if its in poe2 but the bad part is that there is an animation

short prairie
full kraken
#

but neither of us is including that in our axiom, I certainly am not

stuck phoenix
cold sable
#

just remove the animation xd

stuck phoenix
#

You're the stapler

short prairie
#

wrong frenzy

cold sable
#

and pur it in poe 1

tranquil sedge
full kraken
#

vendoring a morbillion portal scrolls to last me 4 months takes like 2 seconds

stuck phoenix
tranquil sedge
cold sable
#

no scroll needed

full kraken
cold sable
#

give it after campaign

#

gg

tranquil sedge
#

boss drop lol

#

osrs-style

full kraken
stuck phoenix
full kraken
tranquil sedge
thick goblet
#

just force everyone to close to desktop to exit their map

full kraken
tranquil sedge
cold sable
#

..

tranquil sedge
#

i dont carry more than one stack of garbage in inventory

stuck phoenix
cold sable
#

ok but be honest the only reason portal scrolls are visible on ur filter is because u dont want to get cancer if you run out right

stuck phoenix
#

You're literally the one stapling on axioms that noone else staples on

tranquil sedge
#

and in campaign your inventory space doesnt matter anyway

#

one stack or two stacks of scrolls

#

makes literally zero difference

cold sable
tranquil sedge
#

to 99.9% of people, i'll throw in the disclaimer, maybe there's some 0.1% meta optimzation that cares about 1 extra tile

full kraken
#

and, heres the important part, transmutes also serve a secondary valuable purpose

stuck phoenix
#

You're literally the only one

cold sable
#

meaningless argument

tranquil sedge
stuck phoenix
#

I don't think you're arguing in good faith honestly

tranquil sedge
#

they're there till at least mid maps

stuck phoenix
#

I'm not gonna repeat myself

tranquil sedge
#

later i remove then or neversink auto removes them i forget whiuch

cold sable
#

nobody wants to pick up scrolls nobody wants to vendor nonsense nobody wants to hold garbage in their inventory especially post acts

tranquil sedge
#

clearly solution is bring back wildwood inventory

#

gimme my extra 2 by 4

stuck phoenix
#

Gonna go eat a sandwich instead

tranquil sedge
#

dammit i miss that

cold sable
#

scrolls in acts is fine but after that its just a chore

full kraken
cold sable
#

honestly i would be fine if they made a extra item slot tha could only hold the 2 scroll types

full kraken
#

the only thing portal scrolls serve is making it worth clicking chests when you run through a couple zones in early Act 1

cold sable
#

that would feel nice

tranquil sedge
cold sable
#

no

tranquil sedge
#

one of the wildwood ascendencies had this

#

extra 8 inv slots

cold sable
tranquil sedge
#

tiny bag

full kraken
#

if you cant genuinely argue that its fun, it doesnt belong in your game

cold sable
#

that would be quite nice

tranquil sedge
#

and make it stack to 5k

thick goblet
thick goblet
#

yeah on a warrior ascendancy

full kraken
#

an ascendancy gains it as a super bugged out extra inventory lol

#

it has been the cause of all sorts of mischief too

tranquil sedge
#

wot kinda bugs 😮

thick goblet
#

im pretty sure the node is literally just the bag btw, so no actual char power

full kraken
tranquil sedge
#

l0l

tranquil sedge
#

that seems even less nice then

mint radish
#

is it against TOS to login to someone elses account to level them?

cold sable
#

i can guess

#

idrk tho...

mint radish
#

I would think it is, but Elon didn't get banned

final owl
#

account sharing is against tos in literally every game ever, so..

cold sable
#

yeah but elon is a trillionare 😔

tranquil sedge
#

in some its just 'at your own risk'

#

like in runescape

final owl
#

that is very pragmatic of them.

thick goblet
tranquil sedge
#

but in poe

#

https://www.pathofexile.com/legal/terms-of-use-and-privacy-policy

Account Registration: To acquire or make full use of any of the Website, Materials and Services you will need to register for a Grinding Gear Games member account ("Member Account"). If you do choose to register for a Member Account you warrant that all information and personal details you provide to Grinding Gear Games are correct. In addition, you acknowledge that you are aware that PoE has an R13 classification in New Zealand and warrant that you are over thirteen (13) years of age. You may not transfer your registration or any rights you may have in your Member Account to any other person or entity. For the avoidance of doubt, you acknowledge that you will have no ownership rights in your Member Account, including without limitation any Virtual Items connected with such Member Account.

#

you cannot account share.

final owl
#

it's against ToS in every game because the game creators do not want to deal with all the support issue crap thatt comes with people sharing accounts.

full kraken
cold sable
#

i mean you can but u shouldnt...

tranquil sedge
#

wildwood was 20 too you right

tranquil sedge
#

20 boxes

#

not 8

onyx adder
tranquil sedge
#

8 is from the chinese realm inventory expansion thingy pic i saw ages ago

onyx adder
#

So ppl still click bag

#

I do all the time

tranquil sedge
#

the map device inventory was to compensate for that wildwood bag space tbh

#

but i still miss it

mint radish
#

ty

gritty garnet
#

the mapsack

full kraken
#

I would do unholy things for poe1 but with poe2 engine

#

the sheer fluidity of movement in poe2 is so nice

tranquil sedge
#

aren't they same engine

full kraken
#

they are not

#

poe2 is a fork of poe1s engine but at this point they definitely seem to have diverged

short prairie
tranquil sedge
#

i c

full kraken
#

I would assume poe2's engine is prolly a fork of the branch of poe1's

thick goblet
#

then rollign for what

short prairie
full kraken
#

so they can periodically rebase to bring in fixes or improvements from 1 branch to the other

short prairie
#

theres no way to roll in ssf

#

vivid vulture doesnt exist

full kraken
#

that way if they fix something on one side, they can apply it to the other

tranquil sedge
#

tryna see if zao or anyone spoke about that

#

wat i could find so far

#

i gotta eat breakfast now tho so was fun chatting
but brb some time

full kraken
#

ugh I really outta get a +2 job level tool for isla so I dont have to fix job placements on blueprint wings after spamming my control A button..

#

blegh I dont think its worth 15D tho

gritty garnet
#

can you recombo those

full kraken
#

I dont think so

onyx adder
#

I thought u were doing the cold or lightning ones for the bloodline

#

Wtf do u use synth enthalpic for is this some glowy brain shit im unaware of

short prairie
#

get +1 frenzy,

onyx adder
#

Oh ur literally just smashing any breach ring and hoping

#

Jesus mate

short prairie
#

t1 ele dmg with attacks is ilvl85

#

yes..

#

im out of hopes

#

this is the cope

livid quarry
#

r u really ssf if u get lucky

#

no imo

#

go farm for 500 rolls

spice pecan
livid quarry
#

the ethical move would be to dust it

spice pecan
#

no

#

the ethical move is to not interact with mobile games kingsmarch at all

split maple
#

Ssf doesn't mean broke cat

#

Also good Merc lab day Pogott

final owl
#

i hope kingsmarch stays how it is and i can just never step foot in the place ever again tbh

hard cliff
nova minnow
#

am i supposed to use more than one retaliation skill

#

if im a retaliation build

spice pecan
#

not really

split maple
#

On glad kinda

spice pecan
#

you could use crushing fist as like a nuke i suppose

#

but eviscerate already kind of is one

full kraken
#

lol I forgot these cost so much

split maple
#

So can spam two retals pretty much

nova minnow
#

i can get a retaliation skill down to 0.66s cdr

#

but im not sure if its worth

split maple
#

Oh not cooldown

#
  • 10% from mastery
nova minnow
#

their dmg is good

full kraken
#

would you believe this isnt the most cursed tree Ive had to do for heist runner, its actually kinda sane by comparison

nova minnow
#

but just how they work is unusable

cobalt blade
short prairie
#

i at you earlier

#

60 runs 1 jewel

full kraken
split maple
#

Gonna spam more?

full kraken
#

will be fast enough (around 1200% movespeed) perma uptime that I have no reason to self chill anymore

thick goblet
short prairie
#

puking

full kraken
hard cliff
#

sadly

full kraken
#

I just use viper strike 6L'd with golden rule + venopuncture + winterweave

spice pecan
split maple
full kraken
#

slap bonechill and unbound ailments, efficacy, more duration, lifetap, momentum on viper strike

short prairie
short prairie
full kraken
#

and a lil bit more chill effect and you will just slap a very long ass self chill for like 20s on yourself just by viper strike'ing one enemy

#

I then use +1 strikes implicit on gloves to more reliably hit enemies with viper strike

#

but its a lot of work for a mere +30% action speed when you have jacked up accel belt, the benefit becomes meh

#

and using viper strike removes phase run + withering step

short prairie
#

F

livid quarry
#

did u pob a berserker flicker without frenzy ring

onyx adder
#

Thats 10 years of bodily excretions

split maple
#

In league without easy vultures :/

short prairie
#

still gotta try

#

im out of cornucopiums

#

time to ritual again

full kraken
#

strong start

onyx adder
#

Cant synth without oshabi because no vultures

#

Cant oshabi without spamming harvest boss

#

Cant spam harvest boss without cornucopia

#

Cant cornucopia without ritual

short prairie
#

this is called a vicious cycle?

urban cove
#

Hi, is there any Mac Poe players here I can ask some questions to?

onyx adder
#

And even after u do this for 57 years and u hit ur still playing fucking flicker

full kraken
#

hella good first BP lol

livid quarry
#

best flicker build

spice pecan
#

nah the necro flicker is by far the best flicker

#

the next best flicker is chain hook

livid quarry
#

whats necro flicker

spice pecan
zenith goblet
#

is the new big update comes with great sword?

onyx adder
#

We dont need a big update we alrdy got great swords

#

Pretty fuckin great if u ask me

zenith goblet
#

that is one handed sword

#

two handed one

onyx adder
#

U said great

#

This one is very great

#

If u want two handed sword i also got

zenith goblet
#

LOL!!!!! Well let me reiterate. TWO handed sword

onyx adder
#

See

#

Its in the name

spice pecan
#

still pissed that we didn't get titans grip or dualwield bows in 3.27 when we literally had four arms

cosmic eagle
#

someone tell tujen to prepare shipments for crossbows,guns and grenade launchers for poe1

onyx adder
livid quarry
#

https://pobb.in/L5gBIjU7o9u2 @short prairie 14 rage per second berserk isnt bait

#

full wither ramp in 1 sec

#

75% to wither on hit

#

also has overleech

gritty crater
#

can i get help with a delve hidden path here?

gritty garnet
#

sure send the screenshot

gritty crater
gritty garnet
#

this one definitely goe somewhere

gritty crater
#

hm i don't think i understand the path but i'll look there

umbral crag
stuck phoenix
umbral crag
#

So if u see two paths only nodes, chances are theres a third hidden path

short prairie
stuck phoenix
gritty crater
#

well thanks i'll make my way around to check

stuck phoenix
gritty crater
#

so i should look between the 2 botom ones i already did again?

stuck phoenix
onyx adder
#

U may have to reload node to see

stuck phoenix
gritty crater
#

this mechanic sucks tbh but thanks for the help

stuck phoenix
stuck phoenix
#

Tldr is, wall occupies an otherwise empty node on the grid
Delve doesn't like 2 path nodes
Fractured walls are directly adjacent to a node

gritty crater
#

skill issue it is then

final owl
#

delve is unarguably at least a little confusing initially. lets not pretend it's all immediately intuitive at least

stuck phoenix
#

Who is?

final owl
#

that guy over there, you just missed him

stuck phoenix
#

I said it doesn't suck

onyx adder
#

And all the time at 180 unfortunately

stuck phoenix
onyx adder
#

Ye all u have to remember is that delve fuckin hates 2 nodes

stuck phoenix
#

It tries to center around the path you're going

onyx adder
#

Everything else is nuance

gritty crater
#

my problem is the path on the map goes from the nodes but the fractured wall is somewhere in between

onyx adder
#

Lul

stuck phoenix
#

Now I do

#

But I didn't know before

#

Because I don't see a single node here where he'd have any chance to miss the wall

dusty mesa
#

Nah over explain everything to WTD

final owl
#

i don't know this stuff. but I am ok with being a delve ignoramus.

onyx adder
#

When ur at the edges of the 5x5 grid u can get things like 90 degree fail spawns, 2-connectors although thats still very unlikely even on the edge, etc etc

full kraken
#

love when I get the proc lol

dusty mesa
#

One of these days I’ll farm delve

onyx adder
#

For 99% of people all u need to remember is 2 things

#
  1. Almost all the time delve wont spawn a node with 2 connections
stuck phoenix
stuck phoenix
onyx adder
#
  1. Fungal caverns is the spawn of satan
#

If u remember those 2 things delve is sweet

onyx adder
#

Hence if ur at the edge of ur 5x5 grid

#

U get failures

#

Looking again i agree its almost impossible to need a reload tho

#

So he just missed it prolly

#

And the other thing is that i always recommend ppl reload the node regardless

#

Because some ppl get rly mad when u tell em theyre blind

stuck phoenix
#

Weak

onyx adder
#

But if u tell em the game is bugged they feel better

stuck phoenix
#

Smh

gritty crater
#

update

stuck phoenix
#

Then it's basically guaranteed to be the leftmost one

#

Of the options I listed

#

Oh wait no

#

Can still be the other one

#

So yeah keep on going

onyx adder
stuck phoenix
#

You didn't need to blow up the path to the armour node

stuck phoenix
#

Smh

onyx adder
#

In any case this one is v quick

stuck phoenix
#

Had a small lapse of vision

onyx adder
#

And its fun to see double hidden wall nodes

#

Theyre quite rare

spice pecan
#

bro what the FUCK

stuck phoenix
#

It's fun

spice pecan
#

why is my poe shader cache

#

fucking 111gb

gritty crater
#

when can we nuke the mine and pick through the rubble?

stuck phoenix
#

Imagine they add actual mining league

onyx adder
#

U will have ur billion gb shader cache

#

And u will love iy

stuck phoenix
#

Well, it is about 1 billion Kb

final owl
#

it's rediculous that something taking up 100gb of space is even an issue in 2026 tbh.

spice pecan
#

the game itself is less than 60gb btw

#

how bad will i fuck myself if I delete my entire shader cache

hard cliff
#

ui/tuk bet five/mmm/ıuu

#

fine

spice pecan
#

"ui/tuk bet five/mmm/ıuu"

#

what the fuck kind of CURSE OF RA shit is this

spice pecan
#

wait verifying won't trim my shader cache what

#

nor will it rebuild it if i delete it

hard cliff
#

ok :-(

final owl
#

I know how big the game is. for what it's worth, in my opinion multi-terrabyte drives should just be cheap and ubiquitous at this point.