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[hard cliff]

Harbinger StormBrand

🤔

[tall belfry]

This still doesn't make your point clear of having multiple summoned from asc

[tight plinth]

harold glacial cascade miner

[proud gorge]

yeah, hmm

[tight plinth]

oh theres nothing left to take after herald buff effect nodes nvm

[proud gorge]

how about "The Harbinger granted by this skill does not share a limit with Harbingers from Harbinger uniques, or other Harbinger ascendancy notables, and can be summoned simultaneously."

no wait maybe reverse the order of those two clauses

"The Harbinger granted by this skill does not share a limit with other Harbinger ascendancy notables, or Harbingers from Harbinger uniques, and can be summoned simultaneously."

[hexed mountain]

man i cant find a polytheist build i want to actually play endgame

[proud gorge]

that seems good

[hexed mountain]

its a lot of QoL but unless you play an attack build with lightpoacher it has no oomph it feels 🙁

[fierce rock]

what about "this harbinger is just different, okay? you can have him, and other ones too, you know? this node can mean two things, and it means the better of the two things, you know what i mean"

would that work?

[tall belfry]

Utility the ascendancy

It's cool but like what the fuck does it do

[hexed mountain]

no gear day 1 the ascendancy

[hard cliff]

wtf am I gonna do with my action and cast speed from harbis >_>

with mines

you are INSANE

[hexed mountain]

charges , ailment unaffected , corrupted blood unaffected , regen , it has everything you could want except damage scaling

unless you do attack damage

[modern zinc]

burning arrow ignite prolif?

[hexed mountain]

i checked with 100% more damage the abberath with DUAL WIELD i'm at 35K damage per step

in endgame

that's not going above T6

[hard cliff]

Lightning Tendrils are bait, yes ?

[hexed mountain]

i heard they're good if you got the cast speed

[simple stag]

polytheist just to get to vaal architect lul

[hexed mountain]

yeah

basically abberath till you swap to vaal absolution or smth

[onyx adder]

Spell skill that scales with projectiles maybe

[hard cliff]

Well harbi will have all the cast speed

and I need a lightning spell

Does action speed affect channeling damage ???

[onyx adder]

Ice spear, blazing salvo, fross, cremation

[hexed mountain]

yeah but even that its kinda underwhelming have +2 proj as only damage in their entire asc

maybe with a bloodline its not cringe

it lacks one damage node imo to feel good as caster

2 damage nodes and a bloodline and we're cruising

[hard cliff]

ok I give up is there an easy way to like convert ice to lightning or something

[onyx adder]

Yea i cant see an appropriate one tbh but maybe

[hard cliff]

these lightning skills suck

[onyx adder]

I was looking

[hexed mountain]

unleash maybe

[onyx adder]

I would play polytheist if i could click brine king without one of the bricks

[hexed mountain]

i dont know why they put 4 pointers on polytheist

thematically it makes no sense

it should all be 2 pointers

[onyx adder]

Yea its no bueno

Maybe salvo is good on polytheist with the aoe

I dont rly know how that skill behaves with aoe

Should go look

[hexed mountain]

like nah man to be a brine king fan you must be a ryslatha fan

could be yeah but +2 proj on a 7 proj skill

[proud gorge]

alright I've gone through and changed the ascendancy notable and skill descriptions for all three Visiting Harbingers

[onyx adder]

Yea kinda mid

[proud gorge]

and cited the reddit thread

[hexed mountain]

maybe unearth gaming?

[proud gorge]

it's still not listed on the main page for the Harbinger ascendancy but that's probably fine

[hexed mountain]

or winter orb

[onyx adder]

Worb maybe

[modern zinc]

wonder if rage vortex behemoth would work

[proud gorge]

no info on the harbinger limit was ever listed there for or against anyways

[onyx adder]

Worb is so shit on low gear tho

[hexed mountain]

but WorB needs really high crit imo because if you're not freezing for herald shatters it feels bad

[onyx adder]

U need more cast speed than polytheist gives u

[kindred silo]

it would work as well as any other ascendancy

[hexed mountain]

or an explode source

[onyx adder]

Worb needs a ton of stuff

[hexed mountain]

yeah poly only has the +2 and lacks the scaling WOrb wants

[proud gorge]

man

[modern zinc]

but muh rage on hit

[kindred silo]

behemoth has a total of 3 good nodes and u can only choose 1 of them

[karmic gust]

only ascendancy that can make worb playable is bog anyway and even on bog its still unplayable skill

[kindred silo]

its quite terrible design

[proud gorge]

I like how the post about you being able to have multiple visiting Harbingers was made 5 hours ago, and 4 hours ago a bunch of people were complaining about the wiki being wrong about it and needing to be corrected

and nobody bothered

anybody can edit the wiki guys

[hexed mountain]

i could see polytheist being decent with a phys attack skill with lightpoacher grutkhul shenanigans and ryslata soul + ryslatha belt and lucky damage

but that's NOT a leaguestarter

[hard cliff]

Voltaix Burst Harbinger

[proud gorge]

If you see something on the wiki that's wrong, just edit it

don't complain about the wiki being wrong online and oh someone should really edit it

smh some people

[hard cliff]

whatt the hell is this skill lol

[simple stag]

i can't be trusted with being informative hell naw

[proud gorge]

isn't that Voltaxic Burst?

[hard cliff]

yes

[proud gorge]

yeah I have no idea how you're supposed to use that skill

[silent leaf]

yea, but counterpoint, if i typed it wrong and people pointed at me, i dont want to be responsible

[hard cliff]

GGG might not either lol

it has built in corpse exolkode tho

so thjat's cool

I guess lol

[heady cliff]

dont you know, even if you think about doing changes to The Sacred Trove Of Knowledge Overseen Directly By GGG (known as "wiki"), you are automatically banned from every poe-related media, all you accounts are being fed to toucan and GGG sends a squad of ninja flightless birds to hunt you down?

[silent leaf]

@hard cliff

https://tenor.com/view/im-ready-throw-gif-12413601

[steel light]

🙄

[hard cliff]

DO IT

[golden phoenix]

[fringe idol]

I've never progressed through the acts with smite before, how does it feel?

[simple stag]

very chill

[heady cliff]

bad in terms of damage tbh

[simple stag]

who'da thunk a free damage aura on a main skill would be good

[hard cliff]

Lock the fuck in

[hexed mountain]

if you can get trans smite its even better

trans smite is insane clear

[fringe idol]

I stripped down this https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia/character/fesEnvy-7601/YaRbiTsdqLbuild?i=0&search=skills%3DSmite%2Bof%2BDivine%2BJudgement%26items%3DShaper%2527s%2BTouch%26sort%3Ddps from all its extremely expensive stuff and swapping to molten strike is still 20m damage. Smite baseline also does decent damage.

DSoJ is pretty good

[heady cliff]

if you have access to levelling gear, then smite levelling is fine

[fringe idol]

I was looking at league starting it

[heady cliff]

clear is pretty good

[simple stag]

okay screw RF we're doing BV bog into CWS Bog log in

[proud gorge]

it's a strike skill, but you strike it, and by it, I mean, hehe, the ground

really it feels more like a really small slam

with bad damage

[fringe idol]

Yeah but you can get +1 targets like really early

[proud gorge]

that doesn't benefit from slam synergies

yeah

[fringe idol]

and DSoJ is a great clear skill

[proud gorge]

then it's two small slams lmao

DSoJ? Dark Souls of Jumping?

[fringe idol]

divine smite of judgement

[proud gorge]

Smite of Divine Judgement

[heady cliff]

Duel Strike of Justice?

[proud gorge]

but yeah it's pretty good, but you can't exactly leaguestart on divine judgement

[elfin shale]

Wait its actually got good AoE? I thought that shit sucked ass for some reason

[heady cliff]

and even if you can, damage is even worse there iirc?

or not?

yep even worse

[fringe idol]

DSoJ can double hit. It's damage is like 600% instead of the 380 normal smite is

[proud gorge]

why do you keep calling it Divine Smite

[hexed mountain]

you can legit have an increased duration smite on the smite to tap every now and then

[hard cliff]

This is base aoe I don't have any nodes

I think

lol

[elfin shale]

Thats like really good compared to what i expected

[potent bramble]

Is that an aura or is that an active cast tho

[elfin shale]

I thought itd be like Blade Blast AoE

[proud gorge]

yeah Voltaxic Burst would be good if it didn't suck ass to play

[elfin shale]

not fuckin more than Reap

[fringe idol]

Nah it also hits many targets

like many many targets

[hexed mountain]

we can see your friend's ID logging off , time to steal his build on pob

[elfin shale]

Would it be any good if you just say fuck the 1% per cast gimmick and dumped AoE and slapped on Astral Projector

[fringe idol]

https://poedb.tw/us/Smite_of_Divine_Judgement

[heady cliff]

and has no damage aura and lower damage efficiency

pure clear skill

[elfin shale]

i guess you're just playing a like, 350% DE spell at that point which is kind of just "technically playable" territory

[hard cliff]

It's a mix of lightning and chaos

good luck scaling that

[elfin shale]

Just full convert to chaos

Its not hard this league

[crystal talon]

Kinda, but you really need to stack reduced/less duration to use astral proj with it

[proud gorge]

Voltaxic Burst is theoretically a good skill, it's just that absolutely nobody has figured out how to make it not super annoying

[elfin shale]

er i meant dump duration not dump AoE lol

[gritty garnet]

I put it on svalinn so I can pretend I have profane bloom

[proud gorge]

only way is a ton of reduced duration yeah

[crystal talon]

You can kinda have both just saying

[fringe idol]

The alternative is RF for the first time ever which I kinda don't want to do

[elfin shale]

I guess you either play CoC or Mjolnir or Astral Projector huh

[tall belfry]

Automating it while you do something else isn't bad

[crystal talon]

You just have a high duration triggered setup, and low duration damage setup

[proud gorge]

both huh

[hard cliff]

https://streamable.com/ni7cr1

here's what it looks like for those who don't know

This is WITH SPELL ECHO

[crystal talon]

Just current state is there isn't really any great ways to do it

[tall belfry]

Hey quick is the icon for the delay green or red

[proud gorge]

you could use the Replica Maloney's Mechanism tech lmao

[heady cliff]

alternative is just not trying to do silly smite starts and level as straightforward sunder

[proud gorge]

with Voltaxic Rift in the main hand

[crystal talon]

The problem isn't triggering

the problem is balancing duration

Triggering is not even hard. you wanna do arcanist brand memes

[hard cliff]

[fringe idol]

Are there any spells really worth running Low Life for besides PBrand?

[tall belfry]

This didn't answer my question

[proud gorge]

I mean

a lot of spells

[elfin shale]

Most of them? 30% more spell damage

[hard cliff]

I have no idea what you are asking

green

[tall belfry]

Oh fuck

[proud gorge]

any spell build would use Pain Res if it were free

[tall belfry]

If its green then nvm

[hard cliff]

I don't know

[hard cliff]

Low life is just free auras

[tall belfry]

I wasn't sure if the delay that comes with it is counted as a buff or debuff

[gritty garnet]

it would be red if you were playing pvp and got hit by it

[hard cliff]

You can go defensive or haste

if you wanted

[fringe idol]

Scav Shavs+Battlemage(Eblade) Ivory tower feels good but I dont know what spells are even good

[proud gorge]

I mean, that eblade build works with any spell yeah

[gritty garnet]

unlike poe2 where you can stack volatility on yourself

[hard cliff]

eblade steroids everything you use it with

Just your preference but eletrical skills have the best synergy

I liked arc a lot this league

very cozy

[shrewd radish]

im kinda confused, is the legacy of phrecia event separate to the new league coming out, like will my current keepers of the flame character be brought into standard tmrw?

[proud gorge]

but since Archmage and Eblade have a lot of overlap in terms of builds, people typically use Eblade on the spells that Archmage can't support, so brands and orbs

[tall belfry]

When you press the button, you get a buff/debuff icon with the rest of your buffs that shows it has a cast cooking
If that icon is green it's a buff, if it's red it's a debuff

[lean urchin]

seperate

[proud gorge]

but you can use Eblade with any spell

EBlade CoC is a build also

[hard cliff]

That's a grreat point

https://streamable.com/ni7cr1

here's the video

[gritty garnet]

keepers will end in negative 10 years

[proud gorge]

that works well with fast instant-cast spells that hit enemies near you

[tall belfry]

Fuck me

[proud gorge]

so like Blazing Salvo, but also stuff like Ice Spear

[hard cliff]

I'll log back in and check

[proud gorge]

but yeah, Eblade with any spell

[hard cliff]

LOG IN

[proud gorge]

pick your favorite

[fringe idol]

is it possible to level up penance brand? I dont think it is

[gritty garnet]

no it sucks

[tall belfry]

I believe that's a buff

[proud gorge]

uh, what?

[tall belfry]

Unfortunate

[thick goblet]

clear is ass

[proud gorge]

oh you mean leaguestart and level through campaign

[hard cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/PGNaENL.jpeg

[proud gorge]

yeah it's possible, but it probably wouldn't be the most fun campaign experience

[tall belfry]

If it was a debuff you could just set that duration to 0 with harbinger lel

[crystal talon]

To be clear any sort of buff/debuff duration shouldn't apply to voltaxic burst.

[stable fulcrum]

Any day 1 builds for the duelist? I assume ts miner won't be easy right away

[crystal talon]

The buff itself doesn't have a duration. Rather you have the buff during the duration of the skill

[hard cliff]

That might be playable

[proud gorge]

Armageddon Brand is the better clear brand at base

[gritty garnet]

storm/arma are better for levelling when you have like no scaling than % damage

[proud gorge]

so if you're going to level on brands, go Arma Brand instead

[tall belfry]

Is this really how this works?

[fringe idol]

what about storm brand

[hard cliff]

So what should I play on harbi ?

[fringe idol]

or is storm brand just bad

[tall belfry]

This shit sounds so intensely ass

[hard cliff]

What's a lightning skill that benefits from action speed + cast speed

Maybe lightning coil of the heavens but that's so boring

Should I go spark ?

[gritty garnet]

lightning warp

[crystal talon]

From my understanding yes, but I don't have any source for it or anything.

[hard cliff]

🤔

I could go totems............

I could go totems !!!

Stormbrand totems harbi log in

[thick goblet]

really bad, just go arma if you wanna play brands early

[stuck phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[velvet herald]

how does Vaal Absolution work i keep pressing it and does nothing it has a heart icon on the spell bar

[lean urchin]

u need to summon a normal bloke

then hover over him

[somber sundial]

Me when anyone wonders how I come up with a shit idea

[hexed mountain]

you need a living absolution mob

i think

[tall belfry]

You also need a better skill

I'm looking at harbi rn and it's actually kinda tempting to archmage/mana stack with it

Whisperer looks good too but harbi looks more fun for it

[rich widget]

What does archnage do

[hard cliff]

It gives you flat eletrical damage based on your unreserved mana

more mana = more flat electrical damage on linked skill

[spare ore]

electrical..

[tall belfry]

Not quite

It's based on the mana cost of the skill, which archmage also increases

[hard cliff]

What skill you thinking ?

Firestorm totems 👀

[stuck phoenix]

the past

[hard cliff]

Damn totems don't get action speed buff

[stuck phoenix]

people whined too much

[tall belfry]

Oh shit it changed?

[hard cliff]

prob still better tha nself casting

😩

[stuck phoenix]

so they changed archmage support

[tall belfry]

No shot

Awful

[stuck phoenix]

in 2024

[hard cliff]

I don't know I might be wrong

[stuck phoenix]

you have been living under a rock

[civic charm]

How expensive do we think rathpit shield will be?

[hard cliff]

Who knows

[tall belfry]

I have been living on the bottom of the tree

[civic charm]

It's a t2 right?

[spare ore]

dunno but probably a lot

[spare ore]

ya

[stuck phoenix]

lol

[tall belfry]

Spells are for people with noodle arms who can't swing a weapon

[spare ore]

i feel personally attacked

[proud gorge]

I mean, Rathpith will be in high demand, but also it's only T2 yeah

[civic charm]

Wondering if I should make a life stacking bog shaman that uses AG of smiting with the new axe and rathpit

[proud gorge]

so, idk, maybe 50-100c at most

[tall belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-glover-glad-gif-11528681

[velvet herald]

dooesnt do anything

[lean urchin]

"Causes one of your existing Sentinels of Absolution to Ascend, becoming more powerful, gaining new spells, and overriding its duration, while maintaining its other bonuses, including from support gems."

[heady cliff]

normal or foulborn?

[lean urchin]

it should turn one of your normal minions big

[civic charm]

Normal or foulborn. Just needs the spell dmg per life

[heady cliff]

several divs likely

[velvet herald]

what does the heart icon mean

[lean urchin]

charges you got stored

[heady cliff]

then quickly falling after 2-3 days

[lean urchin]

uses

[heady cliff]

it was 100c without insane demand from bog shamans

5-10 div starting price easily

with 1 div during week 1 before people idol farm 4082476346346 uniques

[tall belfry]

Huh, I didn't know this existed, this is cool as shit

[fickle glen]

Anyone know if mind over matter perk work in sync with Divine Shield perk?

[proud gorge]

I mean I'm not really talking about starting price, I have no idea what the starting price market is like

I'm talking, like a few days in, maybe end of week 1

[hard cliff]

elden ring armor

[proud gorge]

"stable" price

[stuck phoenix]

it's new

[heady cliff]

then 50c-1div is a good estimation

[stuck phoenix]

literally added this league

[hard cliff]

Do they interact ?

[tall belfry]

I wish it was still Merc League

[proud gorge]

Seven Teachings is cool, but man does it really need to be max rolled to actually be good

[fickle glen]

Like is the mana damage considered damage prevented from health for divine shield?

[heady cliff]

imagine phrecia 2 with merc league as a baseline

[tall belfry]

That's what I'm sayin

[velvet herald]

i am clicking on the minion one on the top left thats an absoluction minion and it doesnt work?

[hard cliff]

https://old.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1qnrhd2/just_for_fun_max_uptime_immortal_call_harbinger/

[heady cliff]

that would probably beat affliction in terms of farm

[tall belfry]

I was literally in the process of trying to figure out how to abuse cdr

[hard cliff]

That's a great question

Yeah it just runs your normal defense calculations so it should work

[modern zinc]

I miss the warchief totem so much

[hard cliff]

aka when mana is hit with MoM your armor applies to the physical damage

[lean urchin]

do you have 2 gems?

[hard cliff]

Hell yes abuse us

[tall belfry]

No

[hard cliff]

🐱

[tall belfry]

If your mana took damage you didn't prevent damage

[velvet herald]

i have normal to summon and vaal but it doesnt work, the normal one got faster attack and summon phantasm thats it

[tall belfry]

You just took the damage and moved it over there

[fickle glen]

That makes sense I guess

[lean urchin]

the vaal version is 2 in 1 gem. they need to be spawned from the same gem

[gritty epoch]

I need concrete pobs with DPS instead of ideas

[lean urchin]

use your supports on the vaal version of the gem, get 1 charge and then it should work

[tall belfry]

Armour would still apply to that damage taken to mana however so it would still work for divine shield no matter where that damage connects with

But the act of taking damage to mana isnt damage prevention

[soft perch]

im too lazy

ill make some tomorrow

[tall belfry]

I'm a fuckin gremlin, sorry

[gritty epoch]

[velvet herald]

oh it became Innosence lol ty bruda

[fickle glen]

Make it yourself

[tall belfry]

Anytime I log on to pob I can't log off for days

[hexed mountain]

maybe i should just play oshabi click spellslinger and poison and put random bullshit in links

[hard cliff]

Chat how are we feeling about harbi Lightning Warp ?

[gritty epoch]

I have no clue

[tall belfry]

End up with a wasteland of half finished builds

[fickle glen]

Lazy lil 🥷

[tall belfry]

Genuinely thinking something similar ngl

Oshabi cleave of rage sounds peak

[hexed mountain]

i just checked and with the mastery for slinger that wasnt there in phrecia 1 you get to 6L slinger costing 23% mana

so 1 6L slinger and 2 4L i get to 50% mana reservation

[tall belfry]

Flicker but jank as shit and easier to scale

Speaking of jankshit flicker, puppeteer bodyswap

[hard cliff]

hell yes

Do you want lightning warp to be instant or save a bit to queue it up on a dangerous enemy ?

So you can BLAST EM

Honestly is this just worse storm call

[hexed mountain]

the armour stacker animate guardian on palladin is probably really nice to start too but man gameplay is a bit cringe

[proud gorge]

Okay so to understand, we have to split the process of "taking damage from hits" into three stages. Getting hit, taking damage, and losing life.

You get hit when an attack or spell hits you. At this point, hit-prevention mechanics kick in, block, evasion, dodge, etc. If those fail, it deals damage. If something says "when you are hit" it applies here.

The next stage is taking damage. This is where damage reduction mechanics kick in: X taken as Y, armour, elemental res, etc. If something says "when you take damage" it applies here.

The final stage is actual life loss. At this point, the only forms of "damage reduction" are actually damage redirection, redirecting the full life loss into various "pools". If you have ES, it goes into ES. If you have MoM, some of it goes into Mana. If you have Ward, it goes into Ward, if you have Molten Shell up, it goes into the MS pool, etc. This also includes Petrified Blood, but the damage is redirected into the "petrified blood" pool, which just sort of goes away and gets turned into life loss over time. If something says "when you lose life" it goes here.

[hard cliff]

yeah having a lot of minions really helps smooth out the derp moments vs 1 minion

[tall belfry]

GET DOWN MR PRESIDENT

https://tenor.com/view/ultrabrazy-gif-5906368095010974588

[hexed mountain]

yeah but having more than one minion means you can missclick the link on them and die

[hard cliff]

ohh yeah I know

I mean regular minions vs paladin stuff

[hexed mountain]

yeah

[hard cliff]

You playing ghetto merc league

[tall belfry]

Linking to minions sucks shit

[hexed mountain]

also its cringe that they killed mines of sabotage that was enormous levels of flat

[tall belfry]

Reaper paladin does seem funny tho

[hexed mountain]

linkin is ok if you only have one minion

[mortal veldt]

just saw tyty's list on twitter, does anyone have a pob for earthshatter aristocrat?

[proud gorge]

that whole thing is why Petrified Blood works with Recoup so well, as well as why Wardloop perma-ward works with recoup so well

[tall belfry]

There's a vid somewhere

[mortal veldt]

kk

[tall belfry]

Valdos aristocrat

Iirc

[proud gorge]

Recoup is based on the total damage taken from a hit, whereas Petrified Blood and Perma-Ward functionally "remove" a portion of the actual life loss from that damage

[hexed mountain]

tyty missing poison oshabi and putting no KF builds 🙁

[proud gorge]

so you recoup for the full amount, but only lose a portion

[steady elk]

flickertstrike mentioned!!

maybe ill try that for once

[tall belfry]

Recoup is based

That's all you needed

[hard cliff]

Is going Storm Call without woke cascade bait ?

League start storm call

Lock in

[proud gorge]

but yeah, I think people often forget about the most central and important form of life loss redirection

[hexed mountain]

also forgetting impending doom harbinger when its so obvious

[proud gorge]

that being that all non-chaos life loss is redirected into Energy Shield if you have any

[hard cliff]

I cannot figure out how to make this work with cast speed + action speed

Their has gotta be one spell that benefits from that :|

[proud gorge]

that's technically a life loss redirection mechanic

[hard cliff]

It's impossible

[tall belfry]

Man that tyty list is boring as shit

[proud gorge]

I mean, that just works well with anything trigger-based

[tall belfry]

It's 55% now btw

[proud gorge]

CoC, CWC, etc

[hard cliff]

CAST WHEN CHANNELING @proud gorge

LOG IN

[proud gorge]

the cooldown recovery rate works great with trigger cooldowns

[karmic gust]

well not cwc as cwc does not have cooldown

[proud gorge]

does it not?

huh yeah

[hard cliff]

and cast when crit doesn't benefit from cast speed

[tall belfry]

Nope

It's fixed

[proud gorge]

it just triggers every set number of seconds while channeling

ah well

[tall belfry]

It happens x times

Yeah

[mortal veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJDyaRGf6co this one?

[hard cliff]

that's awful

[tall belfry]

I believe that was the one

[proud gorge]

go Kitava's Thirst

or Foulborn Kitava's Thirst if you're Jiquani's

[tall belfry]

Is there a way to scale attack speed with cast speed

[hard cliff]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Kitava's_Thirst

🤔

[karmic gust]

wilmas

[tall belfry]

Oh shot

[hard cliff]

What would you do with this

[tall belfry]

Yeah

[karmic gust]

no other way other than wilmas i dont think

[proud gorge]

just cast a spell with a very high mana or life cost

and use that to trigger the helmet

Archmage works well with base Kitava's Thirst, for example

[tall belfry]

Hmmm

[hard cliff]

Forbidden Rite

[tall belfry]

Now how do I make coc work with ancestral bond

Lmfao

[bold scarab]

you dont

[hexed mountain]

its funny that i dont see anybody trying to build with the keeper uniques

[proud gorge]

Forbidden Rite doesn't actually have a very high mana or life cost

you just take damage when you cast it

[hexed mountain]

will of esh stacking is really nice and not expensive

[hard cliff]

😭

[hexed mountain]

hand of the lords is pretty solid too

[tall belfry]

Hand of deez

[proud gorge]

Forbidden Rite of Soul Sacrifice, on the other hand, has a life cost, but it scales off ES and also makes you take chaos damage

[hard cliff]

It's also gonna be 50+ div

[proud gorge]

what, FRoSS?

[tall belfry]

Just transfig yourself

[proud gorge]

nah it's the only transfig FR

[karmic gust]

lightning light of meaning is generally one of the most expensive ones so will of esh as starter sounds kinda terrible

[tall belfry]

It's not hard to run a lab 3 times

[golden moat]

?

[hard cliff]

I gotta quit going on reddit

[proud gorge]

in my Jiquani Foulborn Kitava's Thirst build I used Soulrend of the Spiral

[bold scarab]

they are very mutually exclusive mechanics ... ancestral bond stops any damage coming directly from you ... and Cast on X only works if the source is coming directly from you

[proud gorge]

since that's the highest base mana cost spell (that you can just cast and have it deal damage) in the game

[tall belfry]

I'm aware squish

[proud gorge]

but with Archmage support you can trigger regular Kitava's Thirst off anything

since Archmage gives linked spells a percent mana cost

[bold scarab]

actually wait there might be something ... does poe1 have the gloves that make minion/ally dmg trigger your mechanics?

[tall belfry]

It was a joke

[hard cliff]

So what's the purpose of your six link chest ?

Do you actually make the main skill trigger do damage along with costing a lot and use the helmet as a little extra spam on top ?

[tall belfry]

Please stop pinging me about it now thanks

[bold scarab]

too late i just made it work

[hard cliff]

This is just archmage with extra steps

[proud gorge]

yeah, though most commonly you see people use Kitava's Thirst as the setup button in a two-button build

[hard cliff]

lol

[karmic gust]

you usually just use kitavas for triggering second part of 2 button skills

and that basically only works for ice nova

[proud gorge]

no it's just archmage

[karmic gust]

because other 2 button skills require the second part to be cast first

[proud gorge]

no extra steps, it's an Archmage setup lmao

[hard cliff]

Equipping kitavas

huge step

and might have to be reepated multiple times a map

[tall belfry]

Playing poe is the massive step

[proud gorge]

but yeah lemme see what other spell triggers exist

[tall belfry]

Gotta actually log off of pob

[proud gorge]

there's good old Spellslinger

[hard cliff]

So you shoot out a bunch of ice spears and kitavas blows them up into ice novas ?

[proud gorge]

ah, Poet's Pen Spellslinger, such a build

frostbolts, but yes

[modern zinc]

I want to play inquisitors

[tall belfry]

Heartbound and the one helmet that does damage when you cast a spell

[modern zinc]

they're just 2% of the ssf playerbase

most are doing penance brand

[karmic gust]

you dont even hit any breakpoints with the extra cdr anyway no so why even bother

[proud gorge]

Kitava's Thirst is a very short cooldown yeah

probably the shortest base trigger cooldown in the game

[hard cliff]

Look man

I have to take the CDR

[proud gorge]

oh hey Svalinn has a trigger on it

[hard cliff]

I just want it to not be a dead node

😩

[proud gorge]

you don't have to

the CDR is after the Harbinger now

[hard cliff]

what

[proud gorge]

they swapped the order of the nodes

now the harbingers are first

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/hodhodaa-gif-21969781

[proud gorge]

and the other nodes are second

[hard cliff]

Where do I see this

[proud gorge]

on the Phrecia info

the wiki isn't updated

and the guy who did the mockups for the other ascendancies didn't do Harbinger or Herald

because apparently they were too much work

but yeah the Harbinger nodes are at the front now, which is why people were complaining about being forced to take a dead node because "we can only have 1 harbinger summoned at a time"

[hard cliff]

I wanna go full circle and do Bladefall Bladeblast harbi now

lock tf in

[proud gorge]

before that got corrected

I mean, that was the original goal lmao

I guess if you're using Arcanist Brand you don't really need CDR

since brand activation rate is based on cast speed I think

[hexed mountain]

why harbi over herald if you go a phys spell?

[hard cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/6kpwTlK.png

I locked in

Gotta go harbi

[keen veldt]

I don’t see any buzz around kinetic fusillade, will it be worth playing?

[proud gorge]

I mean, it is worth playing now lmao?

[keen veldt]

seems ok from what I saw

[hexed mountain]

its super strong

[proud gorge]

the issue with Kinetic Fullisade is that it's just kind of a more annoying and harder to use version of the most meta skill in the league

[hexed mountain]

i played 3 different KF builds in keepers

had a blast

[proud gorge]

it's not that it's bad

it's just that most people who would play Kinetic Fullisade are just playing KBoC instead

[hexed mountain]

it goes pew pew and hits everything its funny looking and hurts

[hard cliff]

My problem is if I have a ton of action and cast speed will I be able to keep enough blades out to detonate with blade blast

I have no clue

I should just go firestorm and ignore the lightning pen

[keen veldt]

I only used tried using it till maps the other day, but it was so good that I wanted to try playing it fully this event

[proud gorge]

I mean, even if you have no blades out it still deals damage

[keen veldt]

what asc would you go?

[icy mantle]

Poe2 player giving poe1 a shot, anyone have any active fun guilds taking new members?

[hard cliff]

464 Physical Damage is horrific

[steel light]

i can finally die in maps now

[proud gorge]

any extra blades that fall just give more "free" damage

[hexed mountain]

ranger if you plan on doing more than 4 stones

because you want oath of spring FF

you instastack it its hilariously strong

[proud gorge]

I think we have a guild channel?

I'm not sure which one it is

[hexed mountain]

so it depends on which flavour of KF you want

[hard cliff]

grats

that's crazy

[proud gorge]

probably #1┃recruiting-guilds

that seems likely

[hexed mountain]

i think all 3 ranger ascendancies have good scaling potential for KF

[keen veldt]

I’d prefer not to mana stack for the umpteenth league

oshabi maybe? But would a shrine mess up your breakpoints on the Gatling gun?

[hexed mountain]

not sure about wildspeaker endgame because with the uniques required its hard to dex stack properly

but lab 1 wolves is goated

oshabi should be really good

can stack some heavy evasion if you want or decide to go shrine wisp

[limpid prairie]

People people
I have found that Harbinger ascendency might be good for my build
could this ever be true?

[hexed mountain]

shrine wont mess up your gatling if you use double ring and amulet

i did that on my warden and went down to 0.03 sec duration

[proud gorge]

Harbinger is good yeah

[keen veldt]

lolcohol is making this I think but he’s not put a build out for it yet, I’m kind of a noob so I’ll need to follow it probably haha

but when do I swap to kf

[normal hedge]

i'm sure you can even play kf on bog shaman and it gonna have tons of dmg

[hard cliff]

big dogs

ROLLING IN

The passive the community believes is called "Weakness Quelled, Spirit Awoken" per the wiki now has "Debuffs on you expire 100% faster" (previously 30%)

So you're immune to debuffs ?!

[hybrid harness]

100% faster is half duration

[proud gorge]

No, just twice as fast

[hard cliff]

Close enough

[elfin shale]

I want to play harbinger for free MTX but i dont really know what to play on it

[hexed mountain]

https://pobb.in/I6St9DkdWSfB that's the warden i made so if you make a ranger you can look at the structure (i went glasscanon , usually taking heart of flame graft for mapping , oshabi will be tankier but less damage since no tincture)

[hard cliff]

I'm trying to figure that out right now

[proud gorge]

These days most such stats about how long something lasts are positive "x% faster" stats, instead of "lasts x% less"

because it's impossible to get x% faster to hit 0

[keen veldt]

Spellslinger lightning warp sounds fun

[hexed mountain]

its instant due to no duration

[keen veldt]

yeah, I played it on manual cast with the soul eater tech, automating that sounds crazy

and tornado also with slinger?

[hexed mountain]

yeah it has barely enough duration to hit it and chain if you hit melee

and you basically glide around bosses with instant warp

[hard cliff]

I am cooking

[hexed mountain]

the warp slinger nukes your mana if you spamm it without hitting mobs tho so for casual mapping i have the tornado slinger in quick slot to deactivate it and have more wiggle room on mana

[knotty lynx]

hello , is there a way like copy the desired stats of gear then paste it in poe trade? to skip manual putting of stats

[hexed mountain]

(and arctic armour/flesh and stone arent active its just pob who put it on)

[proud gorge]

PoB lets you search for gear that matches a PoB gear item, I guess

[hexed mountain]

i use those vs annoying uber pinnacle bosses where i remove slinger from warp to have a tiny bit of control

[keen veldt]

it annoys me that I can’t get KF until siosa on ranger ngl

[hard cliff]

I just got a wicked idea

[hexed mountain]

yeah its so good right away

[proud gorge]

you could theoretically run a Witch/Shadow through act 1 lmao

I wouldn't

but you could

more likely you could ask if someone playing a witch could buy the gem for you

since there's going to be a lot of witches

[hexed mountain]

putting the mouse on the node that makes tincture apply to wands and seeing -76% damage without tincture : casual warden

[keen veldt]

lmao, at best hopefully a friend will be on one and I can drag them along to the cavern

u think a lot of witches?

for hoag?

[hexed mountain]

herald and bog looking nice

harbi probably 2nd build

[hard cliff]

https://streamable.com/5pkgpy

Oh no what have I done

[proud gorge]

lot of bogs yeah

or Scions

[hybrid harness]

what's phrecias meta RF ascendancy

[proud gorge]

since there'll probably also be a lot of Scions

Bog Shaman

[hexed mountain]

the humble bog shaman

[proud gorge]

lifestack, AoE, DoT multi

[hybrid harness]

thats cool, will consider if pohx can make the dmg look good in pob lol

[proud gorge]

Toad Pact is a hell of a skill

*notable

[hard cliff]

@elfin shale

Check this out and imagine it with extra unleash

[keen veldt]

all the negatives on shaman scare my tiny brain

[soft perch]

bog shaman sounds fucking miserable as a starter lmao

[hexed mountain]

you can also grab polytheist and take grutkhul for 8% life regen to sustain RF

[proud gorge]

it's only like -20% res

[soft perch]

should 100% respec into it

its -40%

[proud gorge]

that's pretty minor

[keen veldt]

def a late game machine tho

[proud gorge]

oh did they increase it?

[soft perch]

-40% all res is a huge deal on a leaguestart

[hazy kiln]

all the numbers got increased yeah

[proud gorge]

ah

[crimson hearth]

what tier of maps is it considered midgame?

[soft perch]

dont get me wrong bog shaman is completely nuts

[proud gorge]

that's a bit more difficult to ignore early on yeah

[soft perch]

but leaguestarting it sounds miserable

[hexed mountain]

midgame is all the way to T16

[keen veldt]

I am definitely more excited for Oshabi start

[hexed mountain]

endgame is when you farm strats

[hazy kiln]

just buy a goldrim 🙂

[soft perch]

do urself a favour and go hoag herald or like impending doom harb

[keen veldt]

always hated resistances know what I’m sayin

also dogs good

[hexed mountain]

i'm kinda considering impending doom harb but idk how expensive the helm is day 1/2

[soft perch]

how damage

[crimson hearth]

ohh so when im still doing atlas point im not midgame even if i can clear t14+?

[soft perch]

cuz damage is going dot with the 5% degen

[tall belfry]

[hybrid harness]

oh a node you want has the -40%. thats rough xd

[soft perch]

which on day 1 also sounds miserable

[hexed mountain]

meanwhile the humble oshabi gamer : 80% all res

[soft perch]

sanguine form is obviously silly but

[tall belfry]

Wildspeaker wolves lab 1 sounds fuckin GOATED

[soft perch]

legit

wildspeaker > oshabi respec once u get ur pieces

cant go wrong

[tall belfry]

It's like the main reason I want to do anything at all with the asc

[fringe idol]

I've never played RF and finally gave up on picking a build. I think I'm just going to go bog witch RF

[soft perch]

shadow and ranger just seem so comfy as starters

[hazy kiln]

I'm so tempted to play this event despite not really having time <_<

[soft perch]

cuz u get to abuse envy/wolves

[hexed mountain]

dex stack on oshabi is not bad tbh i played it in phrecia 1

[soft perch]

have u considered quitting your job and divorce

[hard cliff]

Does this mean if I take the harbi cooldown node I can use cast while channeling lighting conduit without penalty ?

[hazy kiln]

I have not

[tall belfry]

Witch start seems comfy too as long as you specifically only start herald

[hexed mountain]

lack of will

i think you start herald on witch no matter what you want to build

[deep breach]

Guys

I need help

[hexed mountain]

i dont see any reason not to when gold respec is so cheap early

[proud gorge]

Earlygame is "leaguestart" rares and 1c uniques, midgame is "having decent items and a proper six-link and qualitied gems, but all your items are somewhat subpar", lategame is "having good items, able to spend a div or multiple div on an item at a time", and endgame is "I have purchased a Mageblood, hear me roar"

and then there's the extended endgame

[tough cove]

yeah herald has basically free start with hoag

[proud gorge]

but quite frankly by the time you reach the extended endgame you probably already understand the extended endgame

[hexed mountain]

why herald of agony

[tough cove]

beacuse it got buffed alot

[tall belfry]

Hoag scaling is disgusting

[hard cliff]

Lighting Tendrils Cast While channeling lightning conduit

Chat does this sound good ?

[hexed mountain]

you can slap any phys spell and self cast to big damage

on lab 1

[proud gorge]

I'm not sure about running LC without the Elementalist Shaper of Storms node

[tall belfry]

But yeah hop and go seems comfy

[proud gorge]

but once you get the Shaper of Storms FF it should be good

[hexed mountain]

does the +10% crit work on minions from heralds?

[proud gorge]

Lightning Conduit does very good damage with shock effect

[tall belfry]

It does now

It was patched in this time

[proud gorge]

problem is that build would have to build relatively tanky

[hexed mountain]

nah that's wild

[proud gorge]

to be able to sit there chanelling Lightning Tendrils in the enemy's face

[hexed mountain]

i didnt know i thought it was just a herald of ice/thunder thing

[hard cliff]

Holy shit this can work

[tall belfry]

Yeah hoag looking fuckbusted

And it was already busted

[proud gorge]

so yeah, you'd probably want to run, like

[hexed mountain]

i played herald of purity before and really liked it

[proud gorge]

Aegis Aurora

Armour + ES

[hexed mountain]

and nobody wants double herald of purity helm

[proud gorge]

plus those block wheels

[hexed mountain]

[proud gorge]

should work

alternatively you could go Ghost Dance instead

[tall belfry]

Herald dom blow

[proud gorge]

but I like Aegis Aurora better as a "stand there channeling Lightning Tendrils in the enemy's face" defensive option

[hexed mountain]

where did they write that herald node now works on minion crit?

i dont see it

[deep breach]

Does anyone have the carcass jack vanished coat?

[proud gorge]

Does Playstation even have crossplay and trading with the PC client?

[deep breach]

🫩

[tall belfry]

Uh, it was there

Hang on I know I read this shit

[hexed mountain]

wait i cant even afford the crit node

its 10 points if i want crit and +3 level

[fickle glen]

The Templar feels more like the main character of this game than the other playable characters

[modern zinc]

yeah you can thank Oriath's templar order for that

[tall belfry]

Uhhh, I think I just mentally combined the line before it with that line tbh@hexed mountain

Cuz I can't find a source otherwise

[hexed mountain]

well i cant get +10 crit and +3 level anyway

[tall belfry]

Nope, not for poe1

[fringe idol]

how bad is late game RF?

[hard cliff]

Chat is this a good idea

Cast While Channeling Lightning Tendrils + Conduit

Harbi cooldown recovey node so no missed conduits. Rely on very high cast speed to proc crit every third tick of tendrils and get sucked off by conduit.

I dunno if I shouid just drop all this and go regular lightning tendrils

I might could also go kitavas thirst conduit

🤔

[modern zinc]

It's pretty hard to scale your damage to do endgame bosses

it really feels like you hit a wall

[hybrid harness]

non-ubers are very easy on rf. just takes more time to kill

[proud gorge]

I mean, you're getting the same 4l with CWC as in Thirst

[hybrid harness]

maven can be rippy if u hit beams though

[hexed mountain]

ok but you could also put lightning warp instead and be sangoku

[proud gorge]

but using Thirst means you need to scale the shit out of LC mana cost

[fringe idol]

so not a good build for the league =\

[proud gorge]

and also it only triggers half the time

[hard cliff]

[hard cliff]

I'm torn cause I want to scale crit multi with tendrils guaranteed crits but conduit doesn't get any of that

cause I'm not going crit chance

ala marleyne fallacy + controlled destruction

[modern zinc]

for phrecia? no not really

[hard cliff]

I think I'm trying to do too many things at once

What else auto crits that's a cast spell and doesn't channel lol

Prob should just go lightning tendrils

[civic charm]

are foulborn uniques going core you think?

[golden moat]

some

[civic charm]

or if i have a build that uses foulborns i should try to play it during phrecia?

[golden moat]

prob not in 3.28

[proud gorge]

They're likely going core yeah

we don't know for sure, but out of all the things added in Keepers they're the most likely to go core

[hybrid harness]

reason I think they might be is that they added more foulborns after 3.27 launch. doubt they put post-launch effort into something that was for a single league, but just my theory

[proud gorge]

it's really just a question of how we'll be getting at them

it's also just generally a lot of effort for a single league

[tall belfry]

Foulborne orb

[proud gorge]

especially when they already have a robust borrowed power system

in Grafts

[civic charm]

yeah that makes sense

[proud gorge]

it'd be silly for them to introduce two different borrowed power systems, one of which is way more complex and in-depth than the other, and also fits nicely into the existing game architecture and expands build options significantly

[civic charm]

i guess i'll run the kinetic fus oshabi build and ball out

[hexed mountain]

well the breach boss hive drops foulborns

and breach is core

[proud gorge]

and the other is some hands that sometimes cast one of like 15 spells automatically

[hexed mountain]

unless they legit remove breach

[proud gorge]

I mean, they might revert it. In practice I think they probably won't revert it, but they might strip it down

[final owl]

they could remove defense breaches entirely and i'd be fine with it

[proud gorge]

the biggest issue with the unstable breaches is just that you can't have multiple at once

[normal hedge]

that makes sense https://x.com/Tytykiller_/status/2016330735762997522

Tytykiller (@Tytykiller_)

Map mods are not completely random, they're weighted. I have reason to believe the random mods added by Phrecia will follow these weights, and here's the breakdown for how often you'll encounter each map modifier in a high-tier map.

X · Jan 28, 2026, 2:01 AM

[heady cliff]

normal uniques are most likely to go core

foulborns could be a borrowed power

[golden moat]

damn why is this weight so high lol

[hybrid harness]

do we know the amount of mods added in t16 and t17

[normal hedge]

dont think so

[heady cliff]

2-4

(that is an estimation)

[meager ridge]

Is there a quick way or shortcut to search for items in a pob on the trade site directly? Its quite annoying to put in all the mods 1 by 1 for every single item

[heady cliff]

expect no less than 2, expect no more than 4 is a general consensus

[crude moat]

Are you body shaming that modifier?

[normal hedge]

ty god

[heady cliff]

literally a button "search for those items" somewhere near equipment

[final owl]

minus max res a bit of a pitb, even if you're not RF or whatever

[crude moat]

Imagine if poe players could read

[heady cliff]

or do you mean exact copy of a pob item?

[final owl]

i think they just mean they havent discovered the "trade for items" button in pob

[meager ridge]

Im not trying to buy it, just adding the mods in the trade website so I can change them around

[normal hedge]

they want to search the item 1:1 exporting it from pob

[heady cliff]

yes, this is what this button does, duh

[crude moat]

This is painful to read lol

[lean urchin]

he is new

[heady cliff]

it adds all relevant mods and weights them according to their usefulness to the build

[lean urchin]

ICE is more welcoming than u lads

[heady cliff]

but tbh it mostly works on weapons

[meager ridge]

Yes but I cant open it on the trade website, I can only import it or whisper

[hard cliff]

Guys I just cooked up the crackhead harbi build

[limpid prairie]

with bacon of madness?

[stray sedge]

Didnt see your name and thought you might have been new haha, there's always a few of them when a league/event starts popping in

[hard cliff]

Bro I am cooking

[crude moat]

yea I don't think that's a thing. You'll have to manually do it

[hard cliff]

No

[stray sedge]

nobody say canksillo 3 times

[hard cliff]

I'm doing two things at once like a boss

who wants to do one thing well when you can do two things medicore

like a boss

[final owl]

i generally prefer to do 5 things really badly myself

[crude moat]

It's like playing a no-wander build
you could do it, but what's the point?

[limpid prairie]

I have a terrible harbinger build i feel that

[final owl]

idk. it's hard to avoid that whole "i don't wanna do the same thing everyone else is doing" thing

because i am special, and a beautiful and unique snowflake

[hard cliff]

that's what I am cooking right now bro

[heady cliff]

surfcaster fishing rod selfcast arc

[final owl]

i do wanna be fast

i don't reaaaaally wanna farm up a fishing rod :I

[lean urchin]

fr

[hard cliff]

I'm going haste for the speed memes

[heady cliff]

they were relatively cheap last phrecia

low digit divines even early

[final owl]

i want to stumble across a harbi build that looks amazing just because i wanna be blue

but it's hard to not go bog or oshabi :I

[hard cliff]

I wonder how many casters got jobs in that league a league ago when abyss was popular

and it spawned 100k chests to click

[onyx adder]

I dont love bog tbh, building around some of the drawbacks is quite expensive

[hard cliff]

and only casters can auto open chests lol

What a troll

[onyx adder]

Like yah sure toadpact is a ton of power but u lose 2.5 suffixes

[limpid prairie]

Yeah caster are so OP
Only ones who get free quant on tree

[hard cliff]

What's that sexy necklace ?

Atziri's Foible

thank you

I need that

Fuggg

I don't wanna drop marleyes fallacy

[limpid prairie]

you know the build is good when it uses an amulet worth 1 C

[hard cliff]

I agree

[lean urchin]

there is currently 0c in phrecia

gl getting the amulet

[sinful warren]

Hey does anyone know if the daughter of oshabi shrine king build is still viable? People keep saying they nerfed shrine interaction from self shrines so it doesnt work anymore.

[hard cliff]

How does "when you use a skill" work on channeling spells

Is it just when you start channeling ?

[lean urchin]

release count as 1 use

[hard cliff]

THANK YOU

[hexed mountain]

Impending doom harbi

Harbi has everything it wants

[limpid prairie]

everything?!

[hexed mountain]

Everything!

Also you are blue

[limpid prairie]

-# wow...!

[hard cliff]

I am vibe coding this build

we in the templar area lol

If I only do lightning damage via lightning tendrils can I still take "50% crit multi against stunned enemies"

A big enoug hit stuns regardless, yeah ?

🤔

[hazy kiln]

you can stun with lightning tendrils, sure

phys damage and melee damage both get bonuses to stun, but any hit can stun

[hard cliff]

Thanks Viper

[final owl]

Approximately 41 hours and 18 minutes. aww. In my head it was within the 24 hour bracket already D:

[simple stag]

I have to miss day 1 of event please make sure to stock up ur stores with cheap foulborn doedres by day 2 thank u 🙏

[soft perch]

man i still dont know what to play

nothing i pob has a particularly reasonable power level

[hard cliff]

How easy is solely getting a corrupted soul jewel early ?

[civic charm]

they likely removed the idols affecting the user

[hard cliff]

IDK about the other stats

[final owl]

idk oshabi accuracy stack looks p.good

[hard cliff]

I can't find an easy source of life leech lol

[civic charm]

oshabi eva stacking looks nice

[soft perch]

oshabi damage is fine but making it tanky seems hard

[lean urchin]

there is cold leech from delve jewellery

[civic charm]

agreed

[hard cliff]

I only do lightning damage

I call this my survival branch 🎄

[civic charm]

i was thinking wander oshabi

[hard cliff]

It's just a branch tho

[civic charm]

but oshabi gonna be squish asf for a while

[final owl]

idk. just bung a svalin on it? 😛

fixed (not really fixed).

[civic charm]

Picking a build in a 3 week league is hard

[hard cliff]

wow they made a CWS node

[lean urchin]

i like it, its like a really angry witch

[hard cliff]

lol

[gritty garnet]

that node might as well say while fishing

[dry tree]

More like SWC

[limpid prairie]

its perfect to pad your dps in a discrete way

[heady cliff]

almost every build has access to +15 all res wheel

then you have alira

[hard cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/Jh8WDWj.png

chat i screwed up somewhere

[heady cliff]

nice mana regen though

[hard cliff]

This is with a left slot shavs

[soft perch]

hello videog ame can i have my dexterity back please

[finite quail]

no

shrimply get a glorious vanity seed that has more dex

[hard cliff]

https://pobb.in/WQfyFhniKCW_

I need help on this Harbinger cast speed build

Their is a vision but I don't know how to get there

Cooldown recovery node for kitava to be fast af boy

[gilded lark]

Hi guys

Is ancestral commander really dead after the nerf? Would like to try msoz or dual strike

[final owl]

no

it is not dead.

it is just less good

probably still best HC ascend

[gilded lark]

Isee thanks

[nimble idol]

Anyone know if Daughter of Oshabi shrine asc is the 3.27 buffed version of 20 seconds or still the 10 seconds as phrecia

[hard cliff]

How do I get the mana usage of this under control ?

It uses like 3.5k mana

[final owl]

map shrine effect no longer affects the oshabi shrine effect is all i knowe

[hard cliff]

I have 500 mana regen

😩

[nimble idol]

I was wondering if its the buffed version guardian got thats 20 sec long by default or still 10

[finite quail]

nah it aint dead

just less strong

[drowsy eagle]

now how do I stat stack from 1st lab

[final owl]

specifically automating warcry builds are kinda dead on AC I guess

[finite quail]

Lavianga's spirit

[hard cliff]

[haughty ermine]

[finite quail]

No wait

you're using kitava's thirst

you cant even do that lmfao

[hard cliff]

Why

ohhh yeah

so true

[finite quail]

why are you running inc crit dmg and controlled destruction

[hard cliff]

cause lightning tendrils auto crits every third pulse

So I just need crit multi

to be a bit silly

[finite quail]

ah

Ehhhh

[hard cliff]

The crit also shocks enemies for LC

in theory

👀

[finite quail]

Use inspiration instead

[hard cliff]

Intersting

maybe i should just drop archmage

[finite quail]

Maybe you should build the rest of the character out

So you can check out the support gem dps differences

[hard cliff]

Impossible to calculate trade in phrecia

[finite quail]

?

[hard cliff]

We are seeing things we've never seen before

the meta and the economy will be a twilight realm

[finite quail]

what are you talking about

[hard cliff]

I don't know

What if I just raw dog kitavas thirst

[finite quail]

Bro as long as you dont pick rare uniques it shouldnt be an issue

[hard cliff]

and drop archmage

[finite quail]

continue building your pob and you'll get your answer

[hard cliff]

It's built

[finite quail]

Your character is almost naked bro

[hard cliff]

you can visualize the rare gear bro

[finite quail]

the tree alone isnt enough

[earnest raven]

Indigon builds are cheap

[hard cliff]

in your head

[finite quail]

whisperer

[hard cliff]

visualize mana life and energy shield and cast speed

and crit multi

[civic charm]

Whisper is going to be pretty strong even if you don't go kboc?

[hard cliff]

I feel like you are lying

[earnest raven]

A lil bit

[hard cliff]

It's sick af tho https://i.imgur.com/YxnJ0dA.png

[silent leaf]

indigooning

im indigooning

[rich widget]

This is so tuff twin

[rich widget]

But like wasn’t the whole point the warcrya yo

Wait nvm

[simple stag]

…… Are the extra boss mechanics some gauntlet bull****

[potent bramble]

Definitely maybe

Unless it isn't, in which case no

[final owl]

"Campaign bosses and specific Pinnacle encounters feature new or additional, "Gauntlet-style" mechanics."

sounds like a definite maybe to me.

[tall belfry]

A huge, guaranteed maybe POSSIBLY

[potent bramble]

Thing is, it's not a hardcore gauntlet - so even if the mechanics are that level of punishing - which I'm guessing they won't be - we can still use the patented Zapp Brannigan solution

[tall belfry]

I paid for 6 fucking portals

I'm gonna use em

[simple stag]

Like more map mods and enrage is already plenty if they really go the distance with boss mechanics then this isn’t Phrecia anymore

[hexed mountain]

More fun with BS mechanics tho

[tall belfry]

Lmao

What is phrecia to you? There isn't exactly a standard to use here

A single experimental joke event league shouldnt be the end all be all

[simple stag]

Having fun with idols and builds not getting fucked by hillock

[potent bramble]

Honestly I like the idea of ultra-crazy fights as the way to balance the ultra-crazy juice from idols. I just hope they extend the timeline b/c 3 weeks is kinda short

[hard cliff]

Should I go wand/shield on lightning tendrils ? Does getting chance to ignore stun while channeling mean I can block while channeling without interuption ?

[final owl]

they can't extend without pushing back 3.28

[potent bramble]

Yeah the Hillock fight was rough in the actual Gauntlet, but again - not HC. So just keep it goin' and you'll get there eventually

[tall belfry]

Aren't we estimating next league in March?

Seems to me there isn't a reason to not be able to extend it

We haven't gotten any sort of teaser or announcement of next league which means next league still isn't for at least a full month

It takes 0 dev time to not click the button that says end event lel

[potent bramble]

Personally I'd be fine with 3.28 being pushed back. Honestly, I don't know if it'd be less work for them but I'd be 1000% on board with dropping one 'true' league each year, spacing the rest out a bit, and basically just running Phrecia for the second half of each league. Same mechanics, just a full overhaul on ascendencies and endgame progression

[tall belfry]

Def better than running settlers for a year

[rich widget]

Fuh yea

[potent bramble]

I assume the actual version'd patches and the assorted balancing and mechanics take far more dev resources than what Phrecia does. Could be totally wrong, of course

[tall belfry]

Considering that the framework is all already there, id imagine it's as simple as swapping some integers and clicking a few buttons

Disable the atlas, enable idols

[final owl]

why would you imagine you had any idea how much work was involved

[tall belfry]

Probably the most dev time that went into this specific phrecia was balancing of idols and ascendancies

[tall belfry]

Because I worked with dev frameworks for several years

[civic charm]

ngl a longer phewcia with new stuff is lit

[hard cliff]

https://pobb.in/IG8ThaYNEEf6

This is fubuar

Also had to drop kitavas since it doesn't cast WHILE I am channeling

[potent bramble]

Because I have a baseline understanding of the difference between inventing something new and tweaking something that already exists

[final owl]

right so, you don't

[rich widget]

I believe veneralming is John John yk?

[tall belfry]

Also, I can guarantee you that NOT CLICKING A BUTTON is less dev time than designing a league and shouldn't affect league start time

[final owl]

constructing an entirely imaginary version of how GGG operates behind the scenes, and then making predictions based off it, is a weird hobby.

[potent bramble]

I did end it with "Could be totally wrong, of course"

[tall belfry]

I agree which is why I called you out for it

[final owl]

why do you imagine they chose to make this phrecia run 3 weeks.

[tall belfry]

You can't seriously sit there and pretend that this is something you are against when you literally started the convo by doing the thing

[final owl]

when clearly, they have no reason to not make it run as long as you personally would like

[tall belfry]

How long would I personally like it to run

I'll be done with it in a week maybe 2 so whatever imaginary scenario you're currently coming up with is wrong

[plucky bison]

how many hours until phrecia?