2┃build-planning

[ember parrot]

(One Fringe case being Frost and/or Stun Immunity)

[quasi flint]

Fellas can you recommend me some good builds that abuse grim feast before it gets nuked?

[uncut bay]

literally half the builds

[old shuttle]

half is an understatement kek

[uncut bay]

yeah probably most builds

[old shuttle]

but yeah just strap on a ghostwrithe and youre good

[uncut bay]

well, archmage doesn't need ES, so

no grim feast there

[old shuttle]

or be the most big ol bish. Morior with Res + Attri chest. Astramentis. Howa, Caged god. Atziris helmet.

bam you have like, 5k life, 5k es, 3k mana for mom

and do infinite dmg to infinite monitors

[ember parrot]

I don't use grim feast either 😅

[quasi flint]

Any examples? Please I'm out of the loop Idk anything

[vast veldt]

hmm? any es or hybrid build really

[dawn spire]

You can literally take any build with 30 spirit to spare and use grim feast

If it uses EB, just make sure you also use atziri's or everlasting gaze or ghostwrithe

[quasi flint]

Ok so to narrow it down, something with good bossing and acceptable clear

[dawn spire]

ES isn't strong because grim feast is overpowered. Grim feast is strong because ES is overpowered

Or, more specifically, there's no other stat that comes anywhere close to providing the same survival as ES for the effort

[quasi flint]

Got it

[dawn spire]

Good and acceptable are relative/subjective terms. In my relative and subjective opinion, I'd go with ice shot chronomancer with barrage+snipe for bosses

[quasi flint]

Alright so I played traps, that gives you a sort of metric of the kind of bossing and clear I'm seeking

are spells still easier to play/gear than attacks?

[dawn spire]

I'd say they're close enough in poe2 that it depends on the specific skill

Tho spells require less weapon upkeep

Imo, #1326972100409426081 is the best leveling build with no twink/leveling gear

And that's based on an attack

[quasi flint]

Yeah

Basically I want to actually do the endgame now

so I'd like a strong bosser that I wouldn't need to change as I approach the peak

[vast veldt]

well LA+orb nukes pinnacles too

[quasi flint]

kind of how trappers were in poe 1, where you could league start explosive/seismic trap and take that same build to deleting ubers

[dawn spire]

Really? Damn. I can't believe I lucked into rod + orb on my first ever character in poe2. I just read the skills and I was like, "Damn, these seem op together"

Proceeded to use them on sorceress and stomp act 2 with basically only attribute nodes on my tree.

So yeah, I guess rod + orb might be what you're after

[quasi flint]

Rod or LA?

[dawn spire]

Rod

LA, imo, is trash compared to rod

[vast veldt]

lightning rod then you trigger with it LA or orb or cast on shock lightning ball

[dawn spire]

???

You don't just trigger it with more rods?

[vast veldt]

you can do that too but orb or cast on shock does way more

[dawn spire]

Orb of storms with chain support can chain 10+ times per beam. Lightning rods only last for about 10-12 explosions. So if you're not constantly setting down new rods you're gonna run out

Orb of storms + rod spam

That's the way I advocate

[quasi flint]

Which Class is that? or does it not matter? in which case, is there a comaprison between what the different ascendancies birng?

[vast veldt]

yes thats what i said 😮

[quasi flint]

you said LA+orb

[near hawk]

whats the percentage chance of "Orb of Chance"

[dawn spire]

Oh, I see. When you said "Lightning rod and then trigger it with..." you lost me because I thought you already had an orb placed in that scenario

[vast veldt]

i said la OR orb OR cast on shock
la is not very good for it but when you need tiny little bit more damage you drop couple of rods and LA spam and usually rares die

[dawn spire]

I imagine it depends on the unique since they have different rarities. That's how it works in poe1

[near hawk]

tyty

[vast veldt]

oh and you can also drop rods and LA to get cast on shock rolling then keep spamming rods

[dawn spire]

Imo some good ascendancies for it with ES stacking would be, in no particular order:
Chronomancer, stormweaver, blood witch, infernalist, invoker, acolyte of chayula, deadeye, pathfinder, gemling Legionnaire, witch hunter, or titan

[quasi flint]

really witch hunter?

I must really misunderstand that ascendancy because it looks like ass

[dawn spire]

Chrono: Solid defense and you can maybe try some barrage CD reset shenanigans
Stormweaver: Lady Shockington
Blood witch: Crits and stuff I guess
Infernalist: Reserve life, profit
Invoker: Ele city, bitch
Chayula: this was the one I was least sure of tbh. Seems like it has neat stuff tho as long as you don't take the darkness nodes.
Deadeye: Proj shit
Pathfinder: Flasks and qol
Gemling: stack stacking I guess
Witch hunter: Weapon swap for curses/marks, it's nuts
Titan: Big small nodes

Warbringer uses totems, block, and warcries. None of which you really use

[quasi flint]

so the most "vanilla" flavor would be stormweaver, invoker, and deadeye?

[dawn spire]

Vanilla is my favorite flavor, so by that analogy, it would be chrono

But interpreting your sentence like a normal human, instead, I'd agree

[vast veldt]

deadeye and stormweaver is very much what you would think they are

monk idk smash with a stick

[dawn spire]

Invoker has only one melee-specific node I thought

Maybe zero

Maybe two

[vast veldt]

truu

[dawn spire]

Tbh I saw chronomancer nodes and stopped reading ascendancies

[thorny scroll]

nyone good at trading and also good with monk builds that can help me revamp mine

[formal violet]

Don't ask to ask! Post your question here so that people actually know if they can help. It's also better to discuss your question publicly so more people can chime in or learn! That's why these channels are here!

[dawn spire]

That's what I love about the poe2 ascendancies. There is not a single node that is specific to a weapon type

Melee, proj, spells, or elements are about as specific as they get.

[vast veldt]

i guess invoker does have easy spirit and ES and extra lightning and or cold damage which is nice

[quasi flint]

Last thing worth asking, Invoker Rod+Orb can abuse grim feast correct?

[vast veldt]

sure, invoker also has medidate

ohh @dawn spire chrono time thingy restores to double ES doesn't it? 😮

[dawn spire]

I would imagine so

[dawn spire]

Basically everything can go es+grim feast

[quasi flint]

is it like poe 1 where I start life then swap or what?

[dawn spire]

I mean, there's no life on the tree so most people just get life on gear and stack damage on the tree. Then later on once they have good es gear they invest into es nodes

That's what I'd do, at least. Getting es nodes on the tree would require you to limit your gear to stuff that had es on it, which isn't what I like to do in the campaign when gear is already so hard to forage for

[vast veldt]

monk has alot of hybrid es/evasion nodes

[quasi flint]

right

an grim feast I assume is still useful even with the minor ES you would get by accident due to the whole overstacking thing?

[vast veldt]

CI is near there too
and yep, since it doubles es...and combined with ghost dance.....

[dawn spire]

Yeah, grim feast and ghost dance turn even a small amount of es into a useful layer of defense. It usually isn't because it takes so heckin long to recharge

[vast veldt]

ofc someone did make a build that makes that long recharge very short

[dawn spire]

Yeah, but I assumed we were still talking about leveling

[vast veldt]

truu

[dusty sage]

anyone know what jewel is this ?

[uncut bay]

metamorphosis, it has different ranges

[dusty sage]

what range to get wild storm

like the picture

massive ?

[uncut bay]

idk, find a website with the jewel range simulator

[quasi flint]

yeah I remember this being the case with ghost shrouds in poe 1 as well

[tired python]

If you can stack enough lightning damage and shock on your main skill then you can also use Shock Siphon support gem to help with sustain, but that's usually not worth the dps loss unless it's an annoying map (eg burning ground).

[ember parrot]

Doing that, shocked ground (lightning warp or gathering storm) makes it easy to qualify for the "shocked" part.

[late fiber]

Which one is cheaper to build I think ima level one today - flicker or gemling (the crazy one I forgot the name)

[quasi flint]

small question, what's up with accuracy in this game?

does it solve itself or do i have to worry about it or what?

[uncut bay]

I guess if your weapon requires just strength it doesn't really matter

if it requires dexterity then you should be fine if you get like 200 dex I guess

[quasi flint]

right so it kinda solves itself unlike poe 1

[gilded nova]

So I am about to buy the Ingenuity Belt, but what % is acceptable?
yes I know, the higher the better, but which number should I avoid? Like if it's under 75, 80, or 85?

[upper fable]

Avoid 59, 69, 79, 89

Doesn’t round up

[uncut bay]

I mean...79 is still better than 78

80 is way more expensive

[uncut bay]

keep in mind corrupted belts are much cheaper, you can start with a 50% ingenuity for like 5 divines or something

once you progress further replace it with 80% or 79%

[manic jungle]

Makes no sense to put that there haha

[gilded nova]

My budget is 100 Divs for that belt..so yeah trying to find as cheap as possible but most effective.

[uncut bay]

ok go for 79% then, and find a nice enchantment

that's what I would do

[gilded nova]

Got it chief, so 79% is acceptable?

[quartz cairn]

I'm running a 41% ingenuity I got for 2 div rn. Idk if it's worth using tho.

[uncut bay]

79% is really good, yes

after 79% the ratio of price to value is so much worse imo

[thorny token]

below 50% isnt worth using over regular belt

[uncut bay]

I disagree

for most builds you can only get mana/life and resistances on the belt

meanwhile rings offer plenty of great mods such as attributes

[thorny token]

belt can roll str. and if you are on budget where you are only buying 2 div ingenuity then you will get way better stats from rare belt for that price

[uncut bay]

ah right

well most builds don't need much str

depends on the rings I guess

[quartz cairn]

Well, I have resistances(aside from chaos) capped with ingenuity and Howa. And my ring has +35 int and dex, %cold dmg, life, %all resistances, added phys dmg, + polc. Planning on buying a better ingenuity soon, I don't have the currency now, a couple div short l.

But it works for now even with less valuable ingenuity

[fallen cedar]

I need someone with a few minutes to spare, to help me see if I can use a morior in my build. Anyone available?

[hybrid ocean]

New cocaine dream defensive layer idea just dropped:

What if we applied massive amounts of critical weakness to ourselves, and then reduced monster critical damage against us to below 0?

Can that even happen?

That is to say, from 160% damage with crits to like, 70%

[uncut bay]

sure

[hybrid ocean]

On further consideration, there almost definitely isn't a way to increase the crit rate taken enough for this to be viable.

[small oak]

The issue with this would be things that 1 hit you already and don't crit like degen pools n such. Sad to hear not possible anyways. Could been neat idea

[simple turret]

What weapon runes does a scepter use?

[hollow bronze]

need to change thios to something that gives ES or anythijng better for a ice monk

[chilly pebble]

Does anyone know the cut off on CD for temporlais to perma blink

[finite edge]

0.1 s

100 ms

[stable gale]

does increased freeze threshold on a sapphire jewel make it so it's harder for mobs to freeze me? or easier to freeze mobs?

[leaden salmon]

Can you show what it say word for word / screenshot

[leaden salmon]

Thats your own

Takes longer for you to get frozen

[stable gale]

ok cool

i've been noticing that in juiced delirium maps (> 40% delirium on lvl 80-82 maps) that i've been having issues with stuns, as an invoker monk

[leaden salmon]

You have Stun Charm no?

[fiery sable]

Interesting build.
I use a similar concept on my build, good thing for bows is the added projectile speed from quiver, makes BL travel faster. I also use it on CoS

You could add a second weapon set with a widowhail and a quiver with + projectile speed just to cast BL, it will move way faster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT34jDiN5rI

[stable gale]

i got asceticism and self mortification which has improved things, but it's out of the way and uses a bunch of passives

[stable gale]

i was using freeze, i map swap to stun

do i need a fancy stun charm or will any basic one do the trick?

[leaden salmon]

You can get some with more than 1 charge

[modern crane]

Why do Pathfinders get Wither away?
Only applies ONE Wither, to unwithered nearby enemies, no? 🤔
Just a +5%

[quasi flint]

Does lightning rod+Orb of storms for bossing and Lightning arrow for clearing sound reasonable?

[burnt gust]

Hi, do the value on the vorona version of timeless jewel matter?
"Remembrancing 3796 songworthy deeds by the line of Vorana"

[atomic halo]

yes, it determines how it changed the notables in the radius

[silk flame]

What's the best resource for seeing community recommended builds? Im just getting into endgame and after dying to the odd one shot, I figure I probably should look into a real build rather than whatever I did while levelling

[atomic halo]

but it doesnt not matter for the keystone

if that's all you care about

[burnt gust]

I want to transform HP to ES on invoker

so cheapest as long as it is vorona?

[tall ingot]

Does gore spike blood mage ascendancy point work? It's not giving me any crit in the skill window

[atomic halo]

yeah

[atomic halo]

i think just the tooltip is bugged, works for combat

[tall ingot]

okay

I guess it should take into account overflow as well that only makes sense

[burnt gust]

ty man

[stable gale]

how do stun charms work? You 'get stunned' one time and then it makes you invuln for the next __ seconds? but you still end up stunned once right?

[leaden salmon]

Say a mob is about to stun you. It cancels out that stun and you lose the charge.

If you only have 1 charge then next time you get stunned as normal

[stable gale]

weird, i definitely just got "knocked out" of an attack when i had full charges and then went down to 1 charge

i thought that was a stun

[leaden salmon]

Maybe you got frozen?

Shocked?

Unicorn?

:<

[stable gale]

pretty sure it was a stun but v0v

[leaden salmon]

Maybe you already spend your charges?

[stable gale]

nah i was watching it, it went from 2 to 1

[tall ingot]

it doesn't cancel the stun, you still get stunned with a stun charm on

its only for the stuns after

[stable gale]

i guess still prevents me from getting stunlocked which was the big problem

[tall ingot]

yeah

[mint summit]

Yeah you still take the first stun, but especially if you have a reasonable duration on it it massively helps with getting stun-locked on a character with low threshold

[tall ingot]

If you need a strong solution for stuns allocate back in action

[stable gale]

swapping to that saves me a lot of passive tree points, ending up taking the "icebreaker" wheel instead and some extra damage

[stable gale]

that's pretty sweet. i had gon for the acetisism and self mortification wheel but it's way out of the way

got subterfuge mask on allocation though which is really nice

[mint summit]

I’m on CI with no “Stun threshold from ES” passives and I’m getting away with just a 3.75 second stone charm

But that’s interesting

[stable gale]

yeah i'm CI too

have you run into problems in super high juiced delrium maps?

[mint summit]

In high-density stuff like breach my charm charges have refilled by the time my charm duration is over

So I can only take one stun every 4 seconds in worst case, and I’m chrono so I have two different panic buttons if it’s getting gnarly. So no, haven’t died from delirium/breach at all with current build.

But also that’s as much a question of clear as defenses

[stable gale]

yeah that's the crux of the issue, i try to solve the defense problem and lose so much damage it makes things worse

late game is a lot more of a balancing act than i was lead to believe

[mint summit]

The charm slot seems like a good place to solve problems tbh, because it can’t get you DPS

[stable gale]

yeah, i've got a 3.5 second one so let's hope that does the trick

[ember parrot]

Thanks for the feedback and imprpvement, will do so later.

[hybrid ocean]

Do I need accuracy for heralds?

[atomic halo]

either some loop stuff, or more likely to increase the + to all fire skills line

esp. in conjunction with a corrupt

[hybrid ocean]

There's a tech where you use fireflower with necromantic talisman to kill off Raging Spirits

Nah, it's used purely for some esoteric bullshit

If you don't understand it, 99% you aren't using it.

Also, is there any way to search rings/amulet stats by value at minimum quality?

[uncut bay]

can't use quality in the search sadly

this amulet allows to kill off your raging spirits quickly to trigger cast on minion death

[vapid gust]

The search shows you the non quality ones with the maxed quality in your results according to your query

[hybrid ocean]

Yeah, I've just been setting max quality to 0 and using separate search parameters. Big pain in the ass

[modern crane]

https://youtu.be/8-JkSkD4Wmg?t=83

• Chaos dmg, does NOT increase Poison? ⁉️

[hybrid ocean]

This does not appear to be the case

Unless there's some other way to do this?

Ohhh

Reading comprehension fail, you weren't talking about that at all. My mistake.

[jagged badge]

thoughts ? trying to make an armour+ES infernalist with decent frontline and backline minions. trying to see if ive missed anything important or if im going too heavy on the minions and will need more defensive nodes for the actual char

[modern crane]

What skills do non Pathfinder rangers use?
I've always play Pathfinder, and maybe its time to try more stuff😅 🤷‍♂️

[atomic halo]

• Chaos dmg, does NOT increase Poison? ⁉️
  what

#% increased Chaos Damage and Adds # to # Chaos Damage should work

[hybrid ocean]

But only by increasing the damage of the hit, right?

[atomic halo]

* as long as the hit that applies the poison is dealing chaos

[hybrid ocean]

Yeah.

[atomic halo]

doesnt work if it's a phys hit, i think that's what they were talking about

but just taking that excerpt is very misleading

[hybrid ocean]

By the way, for heralds (specifically of ice), are you the origin for accuracy purposes, or is the enemy you killed?

[atomic halo]

no clue

[hybrid ocean]

Making a non-dex melee build and wondering how much accuracy I need

[modern crane]

So Poisonburst arrow benefits from + Chaos?

it "Hits", but IDK if from Physical or directly Chaos
Or Im missunderstanding🤷‍♂️ 😅

[atomic halo]

does poisonburst arrow deal physical or chaos damage

i checked and it doesnt seem to have any built-in conversion

[modern crane]

The description is very short and vague

[atomic halo]

it's vague because it doesn't do anything to change the damage types

in that case it does the damage of your bow

[hybrid ocean]

.

[atomic halo]

your bow probably has some amount of phys

[hybrid ocean]

Show us your bow shot skill

[atomic halo]

so at minimum chaos damage isn't going to be affecting all your damage, so it isn't going to be very good

im really not sure how to parse "does not hit but..." tbh

[hybrid ocean]

Definitely benefits from flat bonuses to damage

But idk if it factors in global increases

[dusk heath]

What class summons minions??

[uncut bay]

infernalist and invoker seem pretty good with minions to me

mainly infernalist

[dusk heath]

Is that the witch class I need a staff??

[uncut bay]

infernalist is a witch, you don't need a staff

[carmine cipher]

I found an 85% The Adorned. Playing a mana stacking spark stormweaver. Should I use it, or sell it and buy Dream Fragments?

[dusk heath]

Well I'm mercenary but for my second weapon I want to use witch for the minion

[uncut bay]

idk, I would use regular jewels because then you can have an additional mod on them

or maybe even two

[carmine cipher]

Sure, but can pick and choose which stats to boost with The Adorned easier than rare jewels.
It would be a pretty good power boost. But not sure how big of a difference Dream Fragments would do in comparison.

[uncut bay]

hmm to me it seems like when there is one mod or stat that's absolutely op for your build then adorned is worth it

for example intelligence for impending doom archmage

even if you had unlimited money to spend, you could buy great rare jewels with several mods and such

[dusk heath]

Can I summon minion with mercenary class? If I weapon swap it with a staff?

[carmine cipher]

I think you're right, Creo. Thanks!

[uncut bay]

np

[atomic halo]

you can summon minions while wielding any weapon

although ones granted specifically by the implicits of skills will not stay if you weapon swap away

[carmine cipher]

So, follow-up. Would it be worth buying a Dream Fragments? How big of a difference would it make? Would I "need" Ingenuity with it? (mana stacking spark)

[atomic halo]

its just math and numbers

how am i supposed to tell you how much better it is without knowing all the items you already have

pob it and take a look

[carmine cipher]

PoB isn't getting the stats right. It's missing a bunch of mana, even though the build is copied exactly.

But even then, if it's not a clear "yes, it's much better", then perhaps it's not worth the price.

[dawn spire]

You're asking about numbers we can't know on top of how you value damage/currency, which we also cannot know

[quasi flint]

What are some good supports for lightning arrow?

I'm feeling Lightning arrow+lightning rod more for clear than Orb of storms+lightning rod, at least for campaign so far

[fringe lagoon]

Mana that is missing is prob from Mahux, u can fix it manually in configuration

[fringe lagoon]

Regarding Dream Fragments, it depends on your base mana and how much you value freeze immunity

For int/mana stacking builds it can be very strong, I personally recommend it but I have it relatively late in the suggested gear progression for my build due to the high cost

[dawn spire]

Are you using a clearing setup for rod that includes magnified effect?

You can use two of the same skill gem. I recommend using two lightning rods. One for clearing and one for bossing

[bold rock]

anyone here a stormweaver? i need help w my build

[quasi flint]

Can I equip both at the same time?

[uncut bay]

sure

[carmine cipher]

Thank you, Vomi 🙂
bloon and byron, too, of course!

[dawn spire]

Magnified effect and lightning infusion for clearing.

concentrated effect and martial tempo for bossing

[dawn spire]

Yes you can

[bold rock]

i pm u

[uncut bay]

ok

[quasi flint]

I was using magnified effect yeah

but why lightning infusion over wild armaments?

[dawn spire]

Stormweaver help

[dawn spire]

If you have primal armaments, use that instead. I wasn't sure what support tier that one was

[quasi flint]

It's not my first character ever so I have a bunch of uncut supports

[modern crane]

Whats the other ascendancy opposed to Pathfinder?
And what skills do they usually use?
Thunder stuff, right?
And Pathfinder is mostly Poisons

[reef hedge]

anyone know whatys wrong with pob ? its like none jewels are upgrade for me even if put in shitty ones ?

[atomic halo]

because it's replacing the grand spectrum

get an empty socket

and see what it says then

[leaden salmon]

What's a good 2nd modifier on Stone/Freeze charms apart from 0.25 charges per sec gain?

[vapid gust]

What is a decent DPS tooltip on a monk invoker?

[reef hedge]

its only res on the grand spectrum?, its says il lose 105 dex etc

[atomic halo]

okay thats a little bizarre

just see what happens on an empty socket

[uncut bay]

what skill, what build, what weapon

[quartz cairn]

I've seen people say huge numbers, but, I've been doing juiced t16 breach and delirium maps since mine said like 50k without too much issue, although certain mods like ES or 50%+ ele resist were rough with that dmg. I'm at 100k now and I can tell a big difference tho.

I haven't made it to pinnacle yet so that might not be enough for that

Pinnacles*

Guess I assumed that was a question about ice strike

[wicked tiger]

Holy, I just realized my tempest bell costs 302 mana 💀 +skills is bad

[wicked tiger]

I have 222k, but that's with like 20~ divs

[vapid gust]

Ice strike, quarterstaff

I just want kind of a comparison because I've been mimicking several parts of that build on my Chayula

T15 or t16 explode, not an issue, but T4 pinnacles are rough... And my build doesn't have much more to upgrade. Currently at 160k in hideout that buff up ingame to decently above 500k

[uncut bay]

pillar of the caged god is quite strong with the right build

a good rare quarterstaff is really expensive

[vapid gust]

I didn't want to go +attrib route tbh

[uncut bay]

I mean, rare quarterstaff builds require tons of divines to be good

[vapid gust]

My quarterstaff is decent

934 phys dps

[uncut bay]

nice

[vapid gust]

The seller was maybe drunk

But I got it for 35div

[uncut bay]

what is the lower and upper physical damage?

I guess you are feeling the power ceiling of your build then

pinnacle bosses are supposed to be hard 😄

some builds are just broken rn

[viscid stump]

Are there any ways to boost archer minion damage? I have damage nodes and even two prong attack on amulet. Is there anything other than "allies in your party do x amount of damage" ?

[vapid gust]

Ye I think so too

[quartz cairn]

That staff is worth 35 div?

Out of curiosity

If so, I'm going to start a staff creating production line 😅 maybe I'll get rich

[frozen relic]

does ancestral bond apply before or after your current totem limit? Like if I already have a +2 max totems from passives will it only start taking spirit once i have the inittial 3 down?

[safe bane]

does magnitude of ailment include magnitude of shock?

[vapid gust]

Again I think seller was drunk. I couldn't find anything under 60-70div with over 900 phys last time I checked

I had a couple audiences with the king I sold immediately to be able to buy it. No regrets

[quartz cairn]

Ah I see. I was just curious what it'd be worth in general. Congrats on the less expensive find

[hushed nacelle]

So is there a starting build that I can do that will easily clear maps for a while to build up economy? I'm struggling to find one.

[uncut bay]

just any broken build. archmage spark is the easiest choice

but barrier invocation infernalist, pillar of the caged god are great too

infernalist minions

[hushed nacelle]

I have pillar

Is there a link to that build

[uncut bay]

well there you go

search

howa gloves, attribute stacking

[hushed nacelle]

Oh howa is like 200+ exalts

[modern crane]

Im in Act 2
Playing a Ranger, and Mercenary
In the "+5" stats in the passive tree, what do I choose?
All Dex for Ranger, and half half Str and Dex for Mercenary?
IDK really

[minor tree]

thoughts on struth's rapid shot build vs corpsewade pathfinder?

i'm tempted to switch to the latter, but i heard it's bugged vs enemies with energy shield

this is the rapid shot build i've been following on my pathfinder: https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/t47uz0z6

[quasi veldt]

Hi, I have a question. I am currently using Path of Buildung (PoB). However, I do not get the same statistics as in the game. In particular, it does not calculate the stats of the “Heroic Tragedy Timeless Jewel” the Vorana one. Strength= ES instead of life. PoB does not recognize the additional ES points. I only get the ES as if I had no jewel inside.

Does PoB not recognize the new jewels?

[uncut bay]

you pick the required stats for your items and skill gems

[tired python]

is there a site that shows a list of possible mods for each gear type? the trade site just shows all mods so it's not helpful to learn what's available

[hushed nacelle]

Every damn starter build is using 250ex HoW and it's annoying

[minor tree]

on a tight budget i recommend corrupting cry and/or totem warrior

for the former, you want str + a shield to defend better, use pin if you're not a warbringer

for the latter, any melee weapon with +5 melee skills (1h) or up to +7(2h), everything else can be defense

[hushed nacelle]

I have 0 budget

[uncut jay]

Is this a good staff for lighting/ice herald? It has high dps, but is that just from the 25% attack speed ?

[minor tree]

10 ex is probably enough for those builds

[upbeat crow]

how do i get more dps on tempest flurry guys. i got 480k rn and i want more

[indigo pilot]

for those using two of the same weapon (like 2 pillars), how can you tell which one you're wielding?

[tall bear]

Hello there
I started following this guide
https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/fireball-blood-mage-leveling-guide
I then realized that you cannot respec ascendancy and I prefer to later in endgame make a demon form build, like this one:
https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/ronarray-demon-mom-hexblast-infernalist
now my question is: should I keep on following the maxroll guide? even if I take the infernalist ascend?
All the other levelling builds I can find are minion based, I don't like to go that route

[minor tree]

note the helmet interaction was nerfed for demon form, odds are you're looking at 200ish stacks if you're on a budget

for leveling, fireball is aok

[tall bear]

ok

[minor tree]

but i leveled my infernalist using demon form, with just ghostwrithe and occasionally buying a 1ex item with regen here and there

and it was very nice, as you can use any spell you like + the dodges are dope

as soon as you get 60 hp/s, you can be in demon form forever by resetting it

[tall bear]

what you mean by 200 stack?

[minor tree]

demon form gains 1 stack every 0.5s, each stack increases the damage you take but also adds spell damage

i'd expect 200-300ish to be what you could expect once you have 200hp (ming and ghostwrithe) + lots of regen

before the patch you could get to 800

what i did in particular was spark + flame wall, before i hit 60/s i had to pop flasks, low tier ones are ironically better as they won't instantly fill your health

afterwards it's very smooth

[tall bear]

tyvm mate

do you have a guide I can follow?

[minor tree]

i don't, i eyeballed it

[distant solar]

Share a POB

[minor tree]

but pick energy shield nodes, focus on regen on gear, and that's it

[upbeat crow]

what is that?

[minor tree]

pick any spell you think is fun, switch it up whenever

[distant solar]

Put your build together on path of building 2 and export it and share the link. Hard to give feedback if we cant see what you already have

[minor tree]

even early on we're looking at 700-1000% spell damage before you have to reset your stacks

[upbeat crow]

ok

[upbeat crow]

welp cant run it windows doesnt allow it, do you want some screen shots of my gear and skill tree?

[distant solar]

Its okay to run lol. But if not put your build together on maxroll or something

[upbeat crow]

ok

[viscid sierra]

hello
can anyone help me with this skill
playing om invoker(atributes) - build by Bazuka - on bosses Elemental Invocation stacking up to 100 and just didn't trigger ball of lightning. What is the problem with it?

[static plinth]

Invocations are skills you use manually

[modern crane]

What layers of defence does Mercenary build?
Spellcasters go ES, Rangers go Evasion, melees go Life+armor
But I neve see any defensive stuff, in Mercenary trees in Youtube for instance 🤔

[viscid sierra]

oh - I didn't know abut it - so then it on 100% I should just press it and thats all?

[quasi veldt]

Hi, I have a question. I am currently using Path of Buildung (PoB). However, I do not get the same statistics as in the game. In particular, it does not calculate the stats of the “Heroic Tragedy Timeless Jewel” the Vorana one. Strength= ES instead of life. PoB does not recognize the additional ES points. I only get the ES as if I had no jewel inside.

Does PoB not recognize the new jewels?

[lethal robin]

Hey qeustion i have cold snap level 27 now but when i increased it to level 30 it does not increased the damage anymore. is there a soft or hard cap on levels of skill gems

[upbeat crow]

well the skill tree and passive tree is the same (https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/fubgun-attribute-stacker?weaponSet=set1&widgets-state=eyJmN2Q4MjEwMi03ZTc3LTRhNDQtYWQyNC0zM2I2N2U4YWU3YmYiOnsiZmlsdGVycyI6eyJhY3RpdmVWYXJpYW50SWQiOiI2NjBmNzI0NC03Mzg3LTRhODEtYmE4NS1hNzAxZWUzOWNkZmEifSwidHlwZW5hbWUiOiJOZ2ZEb2N1bWVudENtV2lkZ2V0Q29udGVudFZhcmlhbnRzVjEifX0 )well i cant put jewels that are enchanted https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/p673m0y5

[static plinth]

Yeah, then itll shoot like 20 ball lightnings at once

[modern crane]

Skill issue...
Or Ice shards is terrible?🤔
Gameplay wise
The mercenary skill

[gusty gyro]

Hello everyone, I am new to the game and just started cruel difficulty. Playing a Monk and looking to start getting into crafting maybe I can get a good staff. My question is what stats should I be looking for on the staff.

[distant solar]

cant say for certain because Im not going to do the work of putting your gear into POB

• a lot of your jewels in tree are mediocre to bad. plenty give no damage, others give stats that are diluted by increased granted by attributes through pillar and howa
• your howa dex roll is kinda bricked and may not be much better than a base howa drop
• youre copying fubguns build but then youre not really copying his build. again, your jewel sockets may even be sidegrades compared to picking up crit cluster notables on tree
• cant see your 2nd breach ring, 1st breach ring only has two flat attributes instead of all attributes + 2 flat
• cant see chest sockets, 5 socket would make it better
• black sun crest roll is pretty bad, what are you doing with the spirit, grim feast? lol
• one more time in case it wasnt clear. fubguns uber endgame tree has jewel sockets because he is using a perfect roll adorned. every jewel he uses has a useful implicit corruption so every stat line on every corrupted magic jewel is doubled. he's effectively getting 6 lines of stats out of every jewel in the tree; plenty of your jewels barely scrape by with 1 useful mod, and sometimes its ES or mana on kill which isnt tooltip boosting

[ember parrot]

Unless you play SSF, buy instead of craft. Crafting in PoE2 is VERY nondeterministic and 99% of the time not worth it till you 100% know what you are doing.
If you need explanations why, feel free to ask in #2┃crafting-advice . In short: The tools to make it detministic are way too expensive till endgame.
But since you asked, most monks look for a High Phys Base, then Added and Increased Physical as Prefix with Attackspeed as Suffix.

For 1~2 Ex you can get staves that beat anything you can craft with that investment, especially for something that only is a leveling weapon.

[gusty gyro]

I'm having trouble finding out when I should be upgrading my staff, I have a good one rn but Idk when I should get a better one?

[ember parrot]

Usually I look around every 20 levels. At 28 you can use Nazir's Judgement, which with good rolls can carry you from around Act 2 all the way to mid Act 1c.
Then it's when i check the trade site with a search like https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/49M8oO8u9 for Phys/Chaos or https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/vROZEPMTE for Elemental, limit to 2ex max, sort by either DPS or physical DPS (remember your skills convert phys to ele) and just get the highest option there.

[gusty gyro]

This is great, much appreciated

[ember parrot]

same with rings to fix elemental resistances

Ruby and Sapphire rings especially

Get something from https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/Gp3ov6Wcb, slap on 20% fire modifiers for 1ex, do the same with cold https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/dYbZyEpUJ and cold catalysts and they can carry you surprisingly far.

Also Act 1 Cruel unlocks the currency exchange at the gambler NPC

So use it to get the catalysts easier and cheaper

Still using that same tactic for defensive resist rings at endgame 😅
(Yes, I follow my own advice, one could say I "eat my own dog food".)

[upbeat crow]

Yeah I’m trying to get adorned and atziri, I’ve just got astramentis yesterday for 300div so I’m poor rn and I got some good jewels in the stash, so should I go for a 4% attack speed howa?

[orchid swift]

can a endgame lighting deadeye dm me, need a hand with my build

[distant solar]

the goal is 4%/1-12 howa but if youre looking for an upgrade 3/1-12 will be better

[upbeat crow]

I see, the thing is 4%/12 howa is rly expensive Ngl and still I need to grab a adorned with 80%+

So I need another like 300div prob

[distant solar]

yeah if youre looking to improve your dps or even just the tooltip, dropping some bad jewels and sockets and using those points for crit notables in the meantime is fine. if youre not going to use atziris, then patient barrier is wasted points. from nothing around resonance saves points too but that's another 200 div

[upbeat crow]

Yea, also what is tooltip?

[atomic halo]

the dps number it gives on the skill screen

[distant solar]

your original question was how to make your 480k tflurry dps higher. thats the tooltip dps

[upbeat crow]

I see now tysm man

[dusk heath]

I have 30 spirit points does it go away if I activate a spirit gem?

[waxen jewel]

Holy shit does instilling Doomsayer improve my clear as LA deadeye. I was running some crappy cheap templar 10% inc damage 10% inc aoe before. And it's like night and day

For some reason, it took me 90 levels to gain the instills required, IDK why I get so shit rewards in delirium. My record from a delirium run is 1x guilt (the 3rd lowest tier one)

[hybrid ocean]

Does magnitude of ailments inflicted apply to ailment buildup? i.e. freeze, electrocute

[waxen jewel]

But the increase AoE is just enough to make a lot of more Herald of Ice chains happen

[hybrid ocean]

I'd lean towards not, but it's not immediately obvious

[waxen jewel]

Nope. That's why they are separate keywords. Also, not all ailments have a concept of buildup

Only freeze has it right?

[hybrid ocean]

Thanks

Freeze and electrocute

question wouldn't make much sense otherwise, really

[waxen jewel]

Right electorocute, the unloved child

[hybrid ocean]

And heavy stun too, if we're not exclusive to elemental

Yeah, electrocute is cool, but so damn hard to access

If kitoko's were anything other than gloves (besides chest?) it would probably be S tier

[waxen jewel]

Electrocute is so funny. It has one notable that makes enemies take 20% inc damage and it has a thing going on with the support gem that gives crit chance against immobilized, but that's where the insteractions end

But there are like 4 clusters dedicated for it still, as if it were actually integrated into the game (maybe it was more prominent in some alpha version)

[hybrid ocean]

Or perhaps one of the upcoming ascendancies will do stuff with it

[waxen jewel]

Yeah, I don't want to be too critical at all. Just noticed an amusing (to me) pattern. Like there's whole clusters dedicated to: Traps, Swords, Daggers, and Axes, even though none exist yet

[hybrid ocean]

Yep

And still, no electrocute stuff

[waxen jewel]

Still, I find electrocute confusing in it's design. Like it's a freeze but with lightning damage instead wtf?

[hybrid ocean]

besides these

[waxen jewel]

It's identical

to freeze

[viral crag]

To be fair, those are in unreleased class areas so I get those.

[hybrid ocean]

Well yeah, it's meant to be hard to access, because it gives you the best of both worlds between cold and lightning

[viral crag]

There's a couple very electric builds live already with very little electrocute 😅

[waxen jewel]

Yeah that cluster is only one worth even looking, like I mentioned it before. Still, considering that you are probably doing shocks if going for this cluster, 20% increased is not a lot

[hybrid ocean]

Half of that is due to HoWA, in fairness

I'd still be using Kitoko's on my ranger if that didn't exist

[waxen jewel]

Most builds are going for shock magnitude and that "electrocuted enemies take 20% increased damage" diminishes in power with shocks. It has built-in anti-synergy

And it costs 4 points

[hybrid ocean]

Yep

[waxen jewel]

Honestly it could just say "more" damage

[hybrid ocean]

I gues the idea is that if you're not doing shock magnitude, it negates the downside of the support gem?

[viral crag]

Thought we were talking about how limited it is in accessibility, not how little it's getting used.

[ember parrot]

Thanks for the feedback. I tried it and noticed 3 downsides:

• 1. Weapon swap delay (Even with +50% Swap speed in passive tree 2) means i have a minimum time before i can cast lightning warp after my ball lightning.
• 2. Depending on the Projectile speed multi, by that time the ball is off the screen.
• 3. It makes the ball way less usable in tight spaces, as it already zoomed into a wall by the time you want to warp.

[hybrid ocean]

I mean, your last message kind of already veered off, so I followed

[waxen jewel]

I'm confused, what does lack of electrocute have to do with HoWA? Any build with lightning damage, HoWA or not, is going to shock hard and care very little about electrocute

[hybrid ocean]

Because it is accessible via Kitoko's, which aren't that bad compared to rare gloves

but HoWA is so absolutely insane that you can't not use it on like 80% of attack builds

[viral crag]

I was saying that there are multiple builds currently live, even without the other released characters, that take advantage of electric damage and yet there's very little electrocute accessibility.

[fiery sable]

Thanks for trying it.
It can be a useful method to travel the map while not clearing though. I use weapon swap with a widowhail just for that situation, and im using a bow in the main set

Very nice of you for actually trying it btw, cheers

[viral crag]

Like you would think you would want it available if so many builds are going that route.

[waxen jewel]

But isn't the whole deal with kitoko's to bring electrocute close to spells (at least in theory, it's way underpowered anyways)? Attack builds are probably running Mercenary/Hunter/Monk anyways, which have more natural access to electrocute

[ember parrot]

100% will keep the combo for that reason in my 2nd slot (also gives my gemling free +5 Support slots, so +1 max resist 😂 )

[restive mortar]

i could see merc 3rd ascendancy doing that tbh, electrocuting people sounds like a mercenary thing

all the electrocute nodes are in that area

[fiery sable]

Fair enough hahaha
Gemlings are op xD

[restive mortar]

personally hoping monk 3rd ascend is unarmed support

i want to punch god

facebreakers when?

[ember parrot]

The combo also works on an invoker.

[waxen jewel]

I think they are still trying to find the proper identity for electorcute as ailment. And your guess is really good one, I agree, they probs are cooking up a electorcute asc #3 for merc!

[hybrid ocean]

I feel like electrocute is really just a way to make your "cold" damage also shock

[ember parrot]

You can make it into a 2nd mini-shock via a passive. Otherwise it's lightning freeze

[waxen jewel]

And immobilize kinda fits to merc thematically I guess

[restive mortar]

and they need to add burn freeze aka scald or whatever 🙏

maybe scald doesnt immobilise just disarms

[ember parrot]

Yeah, Fire needs a 2nd ailment

[waxen jewel]

The problem with the passive is that you are most likely already shocking and the passive stacks additively with shock and is in reality way worse than 20% "more" damage

[fiery sable]

Hmmmm...
Good to know 😄

[waxen jewel]

Shock magnitude is so easy to come, it's hard to not shock for atleast 50% increased damage taken with minimal effort

[ember parrot]

Does it? Thought it is a 2nd multi.

Since it's typed as damage taken while electrocuted

[waxen jewel]

Nope. All debuffs that say "%increased damage taken" stack additively. Shock is one

It's the basic principle of increased/reduced in poe

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Receiving_damage#cite_ref-5

[hybrid ocean]

This thing- It's additive with global increases, but only applies to the weapon itself when dual wielded, correct?

[ember parrot]

Wait wait wait... doesn't chaos dmg inherently 100% bypass ES?

Oh nvm they changed it to only do double damage to ES instead!

[fading agate]

Anyone got an idea what skills I could use for endgame bossing as molten blast?

[waxen jewel]

I don't think you need to dual wield for that to work at all.

[hybrid ocean]

Dual wielding for the latter of the two statements, that is

I.e. it will not increase the damage of the off-hand, right?

[waxen jewel]

Pretty sure attacks such as Herald of the Ice explosion and the "Gale Force" blast of "Wind Dancer" scale of of that too

Neither really uses any specific weapon AFAIK

[hybrid ocean]

The former most definitely does

[waxen jewel]

Ohh sorry, true

[hybrid ocean]

So does the latter

it's a question of whether voltaic & freezing mark would work

[waxen jewel]

My point is that, global increases has nothing to do with dual wielding

Why would it? What made you think that?

[hybrid ocean]

What I'm asking is whether this is a global increase or not

[waxen jewel]

It is. A good way to remember that is to highlight in your reading the part with Attacks. If it was local modifier, it wouldn't have to specify that

[hybrid ocean]

Ah, good catch

[waxen jewel]

Also it's easy to see when inspecting weapons with that modifier. It doesn't change the +added lighting damage or such mods (which are local on weapons) on the top of the item stats (make them blue), unlike %increased physical damage

Good rule of thumb that applies in 90% cases is: if a modifier can modify the base stats or other local modifiers of the piece of equipment, it's a local modifier, otherwise it isn't. There may be some bizarre edge cases for this, but if you are building something weird relying on those, you probably know the mechanics in and out.

[hybrid ocean]

Well, one would certainly want to know the mechanics in and out

My hunt for bizzare edge cases shall continue

[waxen jewel]

Like wands have local "Increased spell damage", but when would the locality of this even matter? I guess if you where using cast-on-shock spells triggered from off-hand damage (like shield dash)

[restive mortar]

i dont think spell damage can be local unless it only affect the implicit spell granted by the wand

"spell" "damage" it increases the damage of your spells

[waxen jewel]

Only reason I say that is because of this page: https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/List_of_item_corruption_enchantment_modifiers

And I trust the writer(s) know what they are talking about because the vaal enchant mods always match what's available in trade sites.

[restive mortar]

this page has a number of incorrect things

ive used it before

a lot of the vaal enchants do not exist

[waxen jewel]

Sure, I haven't tested/investigated everything

But every one I have, do show up in trade

[restive mortar]

the only +gems enchant on an amulet is +1 all skills

the others dont exist

[waxen jewel]

Makes sense honestly

They are probably datamined so those mods might be dormant in the game files, yet to be realised in the game

[restive mortar]

yeah

[atomic halo]

i use pob to check corrupt implicits

idk how it's better than wiki and poe2db but it is

[waxen jewel]

I used trade

If 50 people are trading some vaal enchant, I want to believe they are not all scammers

Or IDK if you can even scam like that, is there some in-game interface with trade? Never traded in PoE lmao

[restive mortar]

nah you cant fake items

[waxen jewel]

Okay

[restive mortar]

you can just never trade them but if its on trade it exists

[waxen jewel]

I'm talking about pathofexile.com/trade2

So yeah that seems like a good source to verify that wiki page mods then

[atomic halo]

trade is very good to see what modifiers actually exist as well, yeah

[waxen jewel]

It's funny, the "# to level of all Physical Spell Skills" is listed as vaal enchant for amulets in the modifier filter, but it shows 0 results

[atomic halo]

does trade tell you what items it shows up on?

[waxen jewel]

I'm confused what you mean by that?

I can filter by item type combined with affix filters

[restive mortar]

its staff and wand corruption

[waxen jewel]

Ohh I get what you mean. Not directly, but I'm doing science here to test what @restive mortar claimed (that amulets have only "+1 to level of all Skills" as their vaal enchant instead of also having more specific +1 level to asll skill ones")

[atomic halo]

pob2 is clear on that

thats why i use it, trade doesnt tell you that directly

[waxen jewel]

Wait, this is bit confusing. Doesn't that stuff have only fire elemental mods on it?

But it still rolls the physical spell skils vaal mod. Must be an oversight

[atomic halo]

the enchant evidently doesnt care

[atomic halo]

the explicit also has gain as cold

[restive mortar]

gain extra damage doesnt matter for that

+gems and +increased damage of a type are linked

you cant get different ones

but extra damage works with any type

[atomic halo]

guess they didnt both with the enchants

[restive mortar]

yeah

either oversight or just vaal=wacky

likely the latter

[waxen jewel]

The elemental preferences of staves apparently don't care about "Gain +% of Damage as an Extra [Type] Damage" mods (source: craftofexile.com)

Whole game is in early acces, I'll just stop thinking and go bang my head against another Vaal Factory

[restive mortar]

because gain extra damage works with anything

you dont need that type of damage to scale it

[waxen jewel]

Good point. I agree it makes sense

[restive mortar]

it happens after all other damage calc

[hybrid ocean]

Oh, we totally forgot about pin

No real importance to the conversation, just a fridge thought

[orchid swift]

can a endgame lighting deadeye dm me, need a hand with my build

[dawn spire]

Freeze, pin, electrocute, and stun all have buildup

Lightning arrow deadeye help

[waxen jewel]

True, but pin isn't an ailment so you could say we forgot Stun and Daze too (both of which have +% inc buildup increases too)

And doesn't heavy stun have too?

And armor break

[hushed nacelle]

What would I use on Bonestorm to make it fast casting

[hybrid ocean]

Yeah, the rest were mentioned already

that message I replied to was from ages ago

Well, not ages, but more than an hour

[waxen jewel]

Nevermind, armor break doesn't have buildup, it just happens

Because there's no "armor break" threshold really, it's just dependent on enemy armor

[dawn spire]

Whoops.

[hybrid ocean]

np

[waxen jewel]

So there exist non ailment things that have buildup against something else than "Ailment threshold". These are: Stun, Pin, Daze, and Heavy Stun

[sturdy silo]

best supp gems for flicker state?

[dawn spire]

Arcane tempo

[waxen jewel]

Also rings have affixes for cast speed (both implicit and explicit)

Wands/staves/focus have %inc cast time too

Also %inc arcane surge effectiveness exists on the tree

[tardy karma]

yo what are good support gems to use on frost wall

[dawn spire]

What's its purpose?

[fringe lagoon]

Depends on the build I guess.. I use it in a Archmage endgame build as extra burst vs bosses with these gems

[tardy karma]

like full dmg

[dawn spire]

If you can* explode it without using the support to lower the wall life, then yeah, those four above are great

Considered casting, unleash, and controlled destruction are honorable mentions

As is cold penetration if you don't have other ways around enemy cold res

[orchid acorn]

I have all my fire damage converted to cold... Is there a way for me to "burn" enemies?

Like ignite them

[restive mortar]

only this

but ignite isnt very strong

or i guess actually you can use other things that have passive ignite

fire orb ignites nearby enemies

this hat ignites

[orchid swift]

ya'll think this is any good ?

[restive mortar]

its okay

[orchid swift]

guy wants to buy how much you think i should charge

[restive mortar]

5-10ex?

idk its not great

[leaden salmon]

#price-check📉

[orchid badge]

lvl 77 deadeye here, new player, never got into arpgs, just picked up poe2 a few weeks ago, so my first build, doing an ice shot thingy. Just got my first div orb drop, should I get hands of wisdom and action gloves first? or is there some else that would probably benefit me more?

[leaden salmon]

Can you even get HoWa gloves for 1 div?

I've sold 4 of them today.

Ranging 900 exalt - 4 div

[orchid badge]

idk i see a bunch for ~1 div on the trade website, is that just a bunch of bs sell offers then? again, pretty new so I don't have a good grasp on the economy yet

[leaden salmon]

Depends on the rolls on it I guess.

But if you see like 20-50 ex its prob just bait

[orchid badge]

yeah i figured anything under 100 is basically just bait to get people to whisper them

[spare drift]

guys. i need help here. i'm doing a crit build ranger deadeye... i am using visceral quiver. I want to know what parts of the mods on the quiver that would greatly increases my DPS?

[faint ibex]

What stats should I look for on my jewels as a invoker ice monk

[little apex]

Which of the Venom Draught reward option is best for a Stormweaver: chaos resistance vs +5 to all stats? I'm not sure if I'll do chaos innoculation in the future

[heavy ridge]

i have some jewels and it really depends. they have some with quarterstaff damage, cold damage, lightning damage, crit chance/damage, attack speed, etc

[orchid acorn]

What do I need to freeze enemies as a mace/shield warrior

I have blueflame gloves

[daring birch]

Hey I’m about act 1 and I wanna make an invoker build but idk which guides to follow

I see Zizarans build is good but people say it’s not that good because of its lack of mobility but then I see DM’s build guide with flicker strike and it says it’s good but not great campaign wise

So I don’t really know what to follow as for terms of how to build my invoker build

I also see tempest flurry builds

Cuase I’m getting to level 14 getting ready to get ice strike

If anyone could please help me out decide and give me a video guide to follow or even a POB or Maxroll

[dawn spire]

You can very easily refund and reallocate points later on. I'd do whatever is easier for the campaign and then swap to whatever you want later

[daring birch]

Well I’d like to sort of follow a ice strike guide as I go through cause knowing I’ll have to do ascendency

[dawn spire]

What do you mean? They're both invoker builds, right?

[daring birch]

And tbh I don’t really know any easy to use as a means to progress through campaign fast and easy

[daring birch]

Yes but just ones uses flicker strike and the other ice strike

[dawn spire]

You can cut both gems and see which one feels better to use in the campaign

You are not locked into anything except your ascendancy choice

[daring birch]

Ahh I see and what about tempest flurry is that a good invoker type build

[dawn spire]

I'm pretty sure I've heard of lots of people using it to great effect. You can make good builds using most, if not all, skills

[daring birch]

Ohh I see it just really just depends on how you build those skills through supports and stuff?

And I kind of noticed through DM’s guide that he uses flicker strike only for clearing really fast and for movement but ice strike is still his main attack ability

So technically both builds are using ice strike just one uses flicker strike for clearing purposes

[dawn spire]

Yeah, and it goes even further than that, really. All classes can use all skills and gear. One of my favorite builds is a sorceress that used ice shot (a bow skill). I also leveled my mercenary using spark

[wise spindle]

Hey guys, just a quick question, Im running Infernalist and my sniper minions is at level 36 atm. im currently running Stoic Sceptre for the Dicipline for my minions, would you guys suggest i go back to Malice? or Rattling? Would Malice give a huge DPS increase?

[dawn spire]

The mods on the scepter matter way more than the innate skill

And +level of minion skills matters the most

[wise spindle]

i gotcha there, im mainly looking for mods but so far without buffs my sniper minions are at 50k dps per minion, i can currently spawn 50 with ease, with Grim Feast and Blasphemy

[daring birch]

Ohh I see I was planning on running a infernalist build next or a spark sorceress next but I’m not really sure what to run rn

What is your opinion I run next

[dawn spire]

Fun is subjective and I have no idea what you find fun. I'd personally recommend taking a shot at making your own build. Find a skill you think looks fun or that just feels smooth to use. Then come up with some semblance of an idea and pick an ascendancy to complement it

[plucky falcon]

If I'm looking for some input on cooking a build I haven't seen yet, to see if it's even worth giving a shot. Should I ask here or in the Build help Ascendency group for my char?

[daring birch]

Oh I see I mean i definitely want an easy build nust kind of braindead clicking or build aoe effect

So I was thinking a minion build next or something like that sense I use to use P SRS in POE 1

[waxen jewel]

Quality on staves doesn't seem to increase the quality of the skil provided by the implicit. Is this visual or functional bug?

I mean this stuff:

[orchid acorn]

How can I freeze using Stampede? Is it possible?

Or with rolling slam?

[static plinth]

Get a mace with cold damage

Or just add cold in any way

[potent fable]

what happens if i get an amullet with an enchant, and i have the same enchant on the skill tree?
does it double or .... only 1 of them works and the other is obsolente?

[cobalt pollen]

hand of chayula doesn't seem to agree with crossbows

I have some weird behaviour here when I use HoC then I use the fire button and it forces my character into a weird walk

[pearl sluice]

What builds will make the best use of an ingenuity belt. Got one for gemling but don't want to play that anymore.

[cobalt pollen]

from what I understand HoC is swapping me to my 2nd wep slot to use it

and then after I press fire button for crossbow it does /that/

but if as long as I load a different ammo type into my gun it works fine and I'm a shooter man again

from how it looks to me its a bug

[tired python]

have you set all your crossbow skills to use weapon set 1 only, and Hand to use weapon set 2 only?

maybe its cause you have nothing in weapon set 2 as well. You can always grab a cheap shield and enable Blink for blockswap teleports

[cobalt pollen]

I forgot about that but this definitely is not intended behaviour

[tired python]

crossbows are known to have weird bugs to do with their skills being both a reload and shoot

[cobalt pollen]

you can press to load a different ammo and it looks like I'm unhanded running but still holding the crossbow

so its clipping inside of me

[tired python]

this one is definitely a funny one though

[cobalt pollen]

it resets on rolling

[distant solar]

Only one works. You can refund the point or annoint something else

[dawn bronze]

Any1 has an idea if you can herald tech with spark ?

[static plinth]

No, spark isnt an attack

[hard flicker]

need help with shattering concoction
reached 60 cold pen without runes and now idk if i should use two penetration runes and change cold pen support for something else or if i should keep cold pen and use ele dmg runes instead; skill doesnt work so well in pob so i dont even know which supports to use in that case

[raw forge]

Is there a major downside to buying a dream fragment ring that’s corrupted if the stats are decent?

[mint summit]

Nope

[tired python]

why does fubgun's deadeye recommend keeping HoI and HoT on for the bossing setup? Are there bosses where you seriously need to consider clearing mobs whilst killing the boss?

I've been keeping wind dancer, ghost dance, and CoS for bosses just in case I eat random hits, and using the spare spirit to slap on Clarity and Precision to ensure sustain and dps.

[waxen jewel]

Is there any useful 4th gem when doing Cast on Shock Ball Lightning to trigger Lightning Rod?

[kindred barn]

Does mana flare have cd between procs?

[tired python]

Assuming Deceleration, Impetus, and Energy Retention, you can always move Inspiration from lightning arrow to CoS for guaranteed sustain

[hybrid ocean]

Fourth and fifth; assuming you already have scattershot, both deceleration and magnified effect are good

Though this may(?) be unnecessary depending on how many arrows and how much DPS * shock chance you have

There's a lot of cumbersome math to be done on that, see:
#1333923133287174166 message

As the guy above says, if you're not worried about proccing your rods fast enough, inspiration is also good if you have too many +projectile levels or for some reason lack a Thief's torment.

[tired python]

Scattershot? I thought this was for CoS, not lightning rod?

[frank violet]

Anyone able to tell me if elemental expression triggers every attack and with any weapon type, or only with quarterstaves?

[waxen jewel]

Yeah I was talking about 4th socket. I finally am starting to get excess spirit gems so I can lesser jeweler + vaal for 4 sockets everything.
I guess I could try deceleration

[waxen jewel]

Wow it's so easy to get 100% shock debuff with voltaic mark

There's 71% mark effectiveness available very close to my passive nodes which means that voltaic mark gives 77% shock effectiveness alone

I was thinking of using overabundance + unleash with it (IDK if it works), but seems like I don't need to]

[minor tree]

oh heck yeah they fixed poison dmg

[sharp tangle]

hello, im trying out HC and im looking for a spark stormweaver guide, can anyone give me a link or youtube video

[waxen jewel]

How does one get charm with quality? Is there some trick to it (like some weird strongbox) or is it just ultra rare normal loot?

[dry pagoda]

loot and vaal

Im not sure how much % vaal can add, 5 or 7 I think?

[waxen jewel]

I've seen 20 divines before seeing a single point of quality

So the supply is very low, but nobody cares I guess lol

[uncut bay]

search before asking

[sharp tangle]

already did, im usually a melee player, not a ranged one, figured i'd try HC with a ranged hero, but I don't know which guides to trust -.-

which is why im asking here, I dont want the first maxroll guide on the web, i want a guide designed for HC content xD

[uncut bay]

all I can say is that I would keep the everlasting gaze until you have at least 10k mana in HC, and use a shield. I have a perfect guide for you https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/caeye0hz

this guy was one of the archmage spark pioneers

he uses block chance passives, nice for hc

he is a poe1 vereran you can trust him

[sharp tangle]

nice

thx a lot mate

[uncut bay]

np

[midnight geode]

yo guys I'm playing double marking barrage snipe deadeye, and thought of a tech that idk if would work and can't think of a reliable way to test it. Right now, on bosses I'm applying both sniper's and voltaic marks (my ascendency allows it), use barrage and then snipe. First snipe shocks the boss with lightning infusion and breaks armor with splinter, the rest of the hits deal most of the damage. I'm one shotting every boss.

The tech I thought of, is putting voltaic mark on cast on crit (I'm already using cot for mapping anyways), and only apply sniper's mark myself, then the first snipe hit would consume sniper's mark to deal more damage, and also charge cot since boss has 20 power, and cot gains 2 charge per power. Then the 2nd hit would apply voltaic mark, and 3rd hit and also shock would be applied with voltaic mark. (At first I wanted to do the opposite, apply voltaic myself and put sniper's on cot, which would work so much better cuz snipe would consume sniper's mark multiple times to do crazy amounts of dmg, but for whatever reason you can't slot sniper's mark on any of the cast gems while using a bow). This would free up a gem slot I can use for grim feast or ghost dance, and also give me 2 ascendency points back. Both are huge. Would this work at all?

Essay over

just realized I should probably make a thread about this but oh well

[ember parrot]

Question: Do Marks have the 'Spell' Tag allowing for Cast on x to even work?

Ah good, they do.

[midnight geode]

yeah I'm using it for mapping

I'm running crit molten blast, and apply voltaic mark with cot to blind packs of mobs and also trigger shocks a lot easier

herald of thunder also electrocutes giving me frenzies, and I use frenzies with ferocity to give me 40% skill speed. I love all the synergy this build has lol

[errant tulip]

damn is new update on POB breaks it?

when comparing items it doesn show correct changes on average damage and Full DPS

[distant solar]

Is effect of shock additive with ailment/shock magnitude?

[vital sequoia]

How much cheap gemling end game build cost?

[ember parrot]

Depends on what you build. I am still getting the big stuff but can help point you at a budget build for Shockburst Warp.

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/vt82q0yr is a cheap build I used to farm before transitioning into my current semi-Statstacker build. Can switch the gloves for Kitoko's Current if you also want electocution...

DPS Calc is off as Ammo skills are not calculated correctly... Build does around 59k DPS, then multiplied by shock to be around 118k. Not perfect, but enough to reach T15s.

Current version is https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/fb83j0ys , which has 120k DPS without and around 220~240k DPS with shock.

(Using more skills to boost my resistances to 81/79/81/75)

[honest mural]

Is there a helpful step by step on the progression of getting the good jewels, unique etc if planning to go SSF?

Something generic like?

[ember parrot]

Not really a buildcraft question, more #2┃after-acts-help .
Guess your best bet for jewels would be the time-worn jewels in 4-trials.

For other stuff, just get lucky and wing it based on what the game gives you.

[clear sluice]

any ideas on how to take this further? Im soon at the point where it matches the planner but im not very happy with how it performs
https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/5ec5r0mk

and its hard for me to see any further scaling than the example. so wonder if anyone took it further or can throw a fresh look at the planner?

[dawn spire]

Reforging jewels helps, as does running all the djinn Baryas you can. For uniques, tho? Glhf. Gambling and orbs of chance are basically the only tools you have

[zealous swift]

Hey, what are some strong or really good builds with a 4 div budget

[urban vessel]

is there any way to paste items from trade site into path of building?

[zealous swift]

trade site should have a button on bottom left of the item, to copy its stats

[urban vessel]

yeah but that copies it into trade filtering

not to import on path of building

unless its another button

[zealous swift]

nvm, it doesn't exist for poe2

[dawn spire]

I don't know any instance where it says "increased effect of shock" instead of "increased magnitude of shock" so I can't be certain. I'd wager they're multiplicative, though

[urban vessel]

rip

Cuz every time i go shopping i dunno which combination of %dmg modifiers help my build best

having a quick copy wld let me just paste it into pob and pray lol

[clear sluice]

maybe you can write an addon that copies the item for you

[urban vessel]

what addon

[thorny token]

or just whisper someone

then ctrl-c from chat

[thorny token]

its multiplicative as that stat exists for poison at least

[dawn spire]

Or copy the whisper, put it in your chat window, and remove the "@player" part

[thorny token]

but idk if it does for anything else

[thorny token]

that doesnt work as that wont make the item link

pretty sure

[dawn spire]

Not even if you send the message just to local chat?

[waxen jewel]

Anyone built a gemlin stat stacker, while simultaneously running Queen of the Forest + Heroic Tragedy that changes Int's inherent bonus to 0.5% evasion instead?

I'd love to play that :( Too bad it would cost 100 mirrors

[zealous swift]

@thorny token cooked/played anything fun in poe2? 😄

[thorny token]

i dont think so as the copy whisper is just text, only the direct whisper makes the link

[thorny token]

poison plasma blast but poe2 is pretty boring atm so im mostly done with it at this point

[dawn spire]

I thought any message that was sent makes the link appear in chat. Now I wanna test

[zealous swift]

yeah i understand, but could you elaborate slightly further what's the poison plasma blast about ?

[thorny token]

you just use bonestorm for like 3k flat phys and deadeye and scattershot for 4 shots of poison

[zealous swift]

i stopped playing for a while now, thought maybe try some new build

[thorny token]

and result is something like this

[dawn spire]

Also if you're bored, I'd recommend hcssf (: keeps your blood pumping. I'm fully engrossed and having fun without any second monitor content

[zealous swift]

looks good yeah 😄

[ember parrot]

I dont see Frost Exposure + Strip Away.

That might be potential further scaling

[zealous swift]

not a fan of hardcore, i'd rather complete a honor run in bg3, but i played ssf til t15s as a merc

[thorny token]

def not touching ssf without crafting system

[zealous swift]

yeah slamming exalts gets old very fasts

[clear sluice]

ill look into it

[zealous swift]

and i have like 15 chaos res xd

[ember parrot]

They should add essence mobs into the campaign.

Or way up their chances

Cause they are the only way to add a bit of determinism to the crafting

[clear sluice]

@ember parrot any suggestions on application for them?

[zealous swift]

actually i had 7 chaos res and an amethyst charm for most of mapping, because you just don't get items with chaos res, unless it's the one stat

[thorny token]

yea if i wanted to rely completely on ground drops for itemization i would go play fortnite instead of poe

[zealous swift]

xdd

[clear sluice]

cast on freeze?

[ember parrot]

Dont know all spells... something with a high critchance, as it is exposure on crit.

[vivid ruin]

guys, please!!! I beg you! XD is there a simple guide explaining the demon form witch build somewhere? if anyone could share it with me

[ember parrot]

Ah right, frost bomb had exposure?

[vivid ruin]

I just keep dying by losing HP.. and I don't know when I should start level 90 or 85?

[clear sluice]

will check

[ember parrot]

It does

[clear sluice]

yeah

i had energy barrier as a 5th in frost bomb so i swapped with strip away

[zealous swift]

i can only suggest you'd check mathil. he done that, by having very low hp and stacking some regen

[clear sluice]

i could get frostwall slot 5 as well

is there any good annoints for energy shield tech

ouf i realized there is cdr in volatile catalyst that i havent annoiinted

[restive mortar]

you didnt get act 3 chaos res vemon? i always take that one

[zealous swift]

no, I couldn't ever imagine chaos res would be so scarce

and I only played a single char

[dawn condor]

we did

they just removed them

[clear sluice]

what tech is there to get my energy shield recharging earlier?

like on kill and such ?

[waxen jewel]

An idea

[thorny token]

why gemling

doesnt do anything for you here

[fringe lagoon]

Any very endgame int stacker Stormweaver wanna help me min/max my build?

[waxen jewel]

Does the double attribute boost not work?

[thorny token]

to the timeless jewels?

no

[waxen jewel]

HMM okay

TBH, I just wanted to run +4 skills and stack absolutely everything

But I'm kinda out of spirit anyways here so hmm

Is there some bullshit jewel that can single-handedly solve any spirit issue?

[thorny token]

there are jewels that add spirit to notables around right

[clear sluice]

how can i relate to this recharge delay modifier?

[ember parrot]

+6% to all stats, probably

[clear sluice]

4 seconds - *% ?

[waxen jewel]

I found one in grand spectrum series giving, +18% total (runnig all 3). There's also helmet corruption giving upto 30. And then I get another +30 from weapon sockets

Wait, are the "Grand Spectrum" jewels limited to 3 by type or 3 total grand spectrums?

pob2 kinda implies that I can have only 3 Grand Spectrum jewels, not 3 emeralds and 3 rubys

[clear sluice]

how do i calc my es recharge delay ?

[waxen jewel]

The base delay was 4 sec right?

actual_es_recharge_delay = 4 / (1.0 + (total %faster_start_of_energy_shield_recharge) / 100)

[clear sluice]

lets see if i can math

[waxen jewel]

Ohh right, you probably have also reductions to the startup

You know that node at the top of the +25 int node?

[clear sluice]

ye

but

wouldnt that be included here?

ill check

yeh its included

the number increased when i unspecced patient barrier hehe

[frail marlin]

New here so apologies if wrong place, from experience with deadeye rangers are people finding full evasion acrobatic builds better than the evasion and energy shield tank builds?

Struggling to understand which would be best for dps and also overall more easily obtainable

[clear sluice]

does blocking hits counts towards stopping energy shield recharge

forgot to put titan ascends in.

also is there an ingenious way of using Energy Barrier support
i can slot it into blink but not sure it even does anything there

[tired python]

I much prefer evasion + ES rather than pure evasion acro, currently only on <10div budget. Evasion does nothing for burning ground or Max Hit, and Grim Feast means you really don't need a lot to deal with that.

[tired python]

The only novel one I'm aware of is that Mace Leap Slap doesn't get interrupted by stun but still counts for "stunned while using the skill", so if a warrior ever gets stunned using it then they get a lot of free ES. But maybe someone knows another neat option

[clear sluice]

i did that just before this build

went from kripp titan to cptnlance frost bomb

[tired python]

From what I've read it doesn't apply all the time if on a spirit skill, cause it would be pretty nuts to have perma es gen on top of grim feast

[clear sluice]

yup

im mostly doing the rounds to verify what i should know

gehe

[frail marlin]

Do you feel you lose any serious dps for citadels and things like breach bosses or can you still stat out good enough?
I'm about 5 divine into the build and do like it just can't do citadels or maxed t15+

[tired python]

T15s and citadels are fine. The only problematic one is enemies have oncreased ailment threshold, as that kills any HoI/HoT screen wipee.

My PC has too poor fps for reliable Breaches xdd, and haven't bothered trying Breach boss. Citadel bosses and base Zaroch still fold in seconds. I still don't have Ingenuity or a 2nd Breach ring, and I'm gonna wait for a shopping spree so I can move around Res to fit in those. So once I sort those out I don't think it'll be an issue.

[waxen jewel]

I just slam in Energy Barrier/Unbreakable in my blink, IDK if it has ever done anything, but In theory it could save me from getting stunlocked during the cast time

[restive mortar]

against the darkness +12 spirit to nearby notables

[waxen jewel]

You can't really play without energy shield or Mind over Matter, or shield

[restive mortar]

its expensive though

a spirit int atd is like 150d

spirit dex might be cheaper

[waxen jewel]

Yeah BiS gear is expensive

[restive mortar]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/p5YwZBJT0

[waxen jewel]

But I have garbage gear with my ssf, but it's still doubles my EhP

[waxen jewel]

Oh sorry I mixed up the 2 threads of conversation here...

[restive mortar]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/y6MgLdOiR you can also get a worse roll uncorrupted one for cheaper and try your luck divining it

or a worse roll corrupted one if you dont need as much spirit

[waxen jewel]

But yeah, but I have my Against the Darkness for more stat stacking :D. And I switched to invoker, so no issues with spirit anymore

[restive mortar]

ah nice

[waxen jewel]

Well I don't have anything. But In my pob lol

[frail marlin]

Would you mind sharing your current build for me to compare what I could improve, I'm using fubguns guide at the moment but without things costing several divines I've hit a wall

[timid minnow]

with some theorycrafting, I have skill dps at about 22k in PoB - is that low? high? what numbers should I be looking for/comparing things to

looks to be very low compared to some meta builds - unsurprising as it's resonating shield

[drifting apex]

depends on your goal (and budget). if your goal is to wipe screens and oneshot pinnacle bosses then you're low. but all in all 22k should manage just fine if you're able to survive

[shrewd otter]

anything more i could add here for single target? this is for gemling statstack. adding voltaic mark and charge infusion was super big for single target, looking for support gems.

[timid minnow]

the only goal was to have resonating shield as my main form of dps, hopefully without relying on heralds as the actual damage. I've done various theorycrafts with physical dps, Avatar of Fire focusing on resetting armor explosion, etc. I think its got a fairly low ceiling without going into herald nonsense, unfortunately

I'm not actually able to test in-game as I'm still running the campaign on a first character; not a lot of time to play, but plenty of time to look at PoB behind work spreadsheets

[carmine flicker]

any ideas what to use on totem warbringer?
too low int for curses(and damage is phys, so curses aren't needed), no guard skills exist..

no idea what to spend buttons on, except "well, totem on RMB"

[fast void]

is there any particular class that has the strongest/fastest leveling experience? specifically from lvls 1-15ish

[zealous swift]

if first time playing, probably sorceress

or ranger maybe

[orchid swift]

Any endgame deadeye lightning arrow build players free to jump in a call and help me with my build? Can’t seem to figure out why I’m only doing 31k dps, I’ll stream my screen

[hushed nacelle]

what's the best early support gems to place on tempest bell? Does anyone know>

[ember parrot]

Personally a fan of Overpower + Concentrated Effect, I see Bell mainly as a Boss DPS Help Tool.

[hushed nacelle]

Yea that's what I was thinking.

[ember parrot]

Dunno if Combo finisher can be used on it and how it combos with the 4 combo requirement of the bell

[distant solar]

it's more of "shock has x% increased effect on marked enemy" and "increaed magnitude of ailments" from jewels and tree

[ember parrot]

Ah no bell can't be supported via combo finisher

[dawn spire]

Is that the voltaic mark text? I'm not at my pc so I can't check

[dawn spire]

I'm not able to join the stream, but are you looking at tooltip dps or pob dps?

[ember parrot]

Also doesn't most of the DPS comes from double dipping into rod?

[dawn spire]

All classes can use #1326972100409426081 so it basically comes down to which classes can get the most damage on the tree the soonest. So probably merc, ranger, or monk. Ranger also has lots of early movement speed nodes which helps

[ashen copper]

any PoB2 users here that know how to get empowered effects to work? recent patch says it's in but, can't get infrnal cry to empower my attack

[distant solar]

yeah that's right, voltaic mark

[minor tree]

If you can Twink yourself out with 2-3 ex, you could go with pillar of caged god + belt unique that gives a lot of strength, then pick all lesser nodes for +str and try to equip rings with +damage

I've leveled 4 characters, 3 of these with that strategy

At 45-60 hp Regen demon form is much faster though

Since the dodge speeds you up a lot and it has a ton of damage

[orchid swift]

tooltip

[ember parrot]

FYI tooltip info ignores scaling factors like Applied Curse, Applied Exposure, Applied Shock...

Then all conditional damage boosts e.g. extra dmg is target is shocked/conditioned/within or outside range.

31k easily jump to 37k with 20% shock alone.

(Or 59k at 90% shock.)

Then res stripping you can move an enemy easily from 0% to -55% via exposure and curse,
This would boost 37k to over 55.5k.

With some conditional boosters you easily have over double the tooltip dps then.

[cerulean kraken]

Physical hit-based spells can cause bleed ? Help text doesn't specify attack damage. All sources of bleed chance don't specify attack either. Okay, seems it does.

[inland nebula]

https://pobb.in/LGHZpUor56Nv
my wip 54% mom, 144% life recoup, 127% mana recoup, abomination (cast speed ascend can be changed to time freeze or a diff one depending on what weapons/skills ill use, since its undecided)
(gear wip and completely placeholder, no skills yet either, i don't even think this build is remotely viable lol)
271% recoup in total, and 54% MoM.
Anyone have any ideas what to do for damage?
If i go melee, HoWa could carry my damage, and I could use porcikerln for clear with HoI and Ice Strike, but I already have an ice strike monk... so I kinda dont want to.
Any ideas gamers? ;-; (no temporalis or trampletoe)

[delicate aspen]

Looking for a recommendation for a cheap fun build for me level 90 Gemling. Nothing optimal just fun in your opinion, that's enough for me 🙂

[tiny halo]

I'm looking for advice on Infernalist vs Blood Mage for my Witch alt. I read Blood mage can be really powerful but I also have read its kinda broken in a bad way. Any advice?

[hot rapids]

i dont think i am proccing herald of lightning and thunder when enemies have high resists. is it because my herald is not doing enough damage to 1 shot them?

[ember parrot]

Persobally like shockburst warp, but it's kind of simple.

[delicate aspen]

simple is nice!

got anything to link or should i just look it up

[fiery rampart]

is there a max on how much shock magnitude you can have?

[floral folio]

is there a "max" amount of curse you can put on an enemy?

[hushed hull]

I'm so confused with Path of Building 2, maybe someone can help me, please? I've added an Amulet to it and the tooltip in PoB2 shows me that I will lose -140 Total Life

When I equip it in PoB2, my Total Life will go up by 300~

I really don't understand this comparision tooltip anymore

[ember parrot]

#2┃build-planning message

[ember parrot]

There, quick video of the combo and a rough build.

[restive mortar]

what amulet are you replacing? send a screenshot

[ember parrot]

Also that was with mostly rare items IIRC

[delicate aspen]

Much appriciated bro! 😄

[fiery rampart]

so far I know there you can use 3 curses 1 by default 1 from whispers of doom and another from a unique ring

[hushed hull]

now I equipped the one in the first screenshot and this is the one I am replacing:

[restive mortar]

hmm I isit to do with your annoint?

[floral folio]

im sorry i didnt mean curses in that way, im running 4 currently, I shoulda meant like, can I curse a target with say, conductivty and they go to -120%? or does it cap out at like 75 or 90-95% like players?

[hushed hull]

but the annoint only gives damage and has nothing to do with my total life

[restive mortar]

the old is giving strength which gives life but I don't know that annoint

[restive mortar]

probably a bug , if you look at this image it says you lose 600 life

[hushed hull]

hm okay, but if I equip the fate collar, PoB2 shows Total Life 4709 and when I equip the Golem Rosary it shows 4478

[fiery rampart]

you can over cap resistance shredding via Exposure

[hushed hull]

so I cannot reliable look at the tooltip from PoB

[floral folio]

okay thank you, I'll see what others can do then, currently im running as a aura support and im up to -65% on fire lightning and ice etc and was wanting to know if ill hit a ceiling soon and need to do something else

[fiery rampart]

Np once they are they are fully stripped or if your able to fully penetrate there resistance their resistance will go in the negative, and yes their resistance does cap like ours does any exposure or minuses to resistance applied after that will scale with the percentage that is over cap

[inland nebula]

Any advice frogs?
HoWa is possible, but then trying to go melee, or bow/cbow, I'd need Dex and Accuracy rating which i don't have either of lol..

[ember parrot]

Feel free to ping me if you have any questions about it.

[upper viper]

Man i wish there was a place where people could put up thier builds for trade build for build XD

[floral folio]

@fiery rampart thats what im at right now, my goal is to hopefully get up to -100%

[inland nebula]

tft discord "The Forbidden Trove"

[fiery rampart]

have you used Heightened Curse and picked up the Curse effect nodes?

[upper viper]

thats mostly just selling your gear, that stuff takes years XD

[inland nebula]

They have channels for selling builds though, idk what more you want

[upper viper]

requires a special role, and i am in no grind to get a role just to sell a build

[inland nebula]

lel

[carmine flicker]

how good of a move skill demon dodge is BTW, compared to poe1 move skills?

[jade stone]

I’m trying to find a build that would work well with a rarity/aura bot any advice?

[timid lava]

Guys; is there a fast way to get items priced on ps? Like an app or a website that price everything you have

[jade stone]

No

[white umbra]

Most people run Spark Sorceress with rarity bot.

[toxic spade]

Question for anyone in the know: What's the deal with concoction skills, and 'off-hand critical damage bonus' ?

Which of these critical damage bonuses is my skill actually using? (The offhand looks to be a glitch, and is basically my main hand critical damage bonus (which is the correct amount of increased critical damage bonus that I have on tree+gear) squared)

Like, if it's using the offhand damage (or even averaging them), I feel like I'm really going to want to go ham on crit damage, since it's double multiplying

[jade stone]

That’s what I was looking at saw a guy doing bow spark sorc

[wild cape]

Anyone here familiar with path of building? Am having some trouble with skills, healds and multi-skill combos.

First time using it

[minor tree]

Blood mage is dope if you can spend a low amount of mana, since you get more health and that is a nice buffer against being 1shot

But otherwise infernalist gets very generic bonuses which tend to always be good

[zinc crest]

Why does the eldritch battery not convert all my energy shield to my mana, I get around 300 mana from it but still got 6k energy shield that did convert

[toxic spade]

I believe it converts before +% increased ES.

[sly talon]

what's the best support for blink anyone?

[leaden salmon]

Ingenuity is okay

Second Wind

[toxic spade]

Oh wait you're saying you still have 6k ES still on your health, too?

[leaden salmon]

is also okay, but slows cooldown recovery

You cant have ES on health? 😄

[sly talon]

got it boss i have those but was just wondering if there's anything else i could do

[leaden salmon]

ES = Energy Shield

[fringe lagoon]

Cool down reduction node on tree and jewels

[sly talon]

price? like what's the value

[fringe lagoon]

Not sure I understand the question

[sly talon]

yes broda is there a better movement skill? other than blink

[fringe lagoon]

Not really, just plain +movement speed buffs but I wouldn't say it's better

[gaunt tapir]

If you have a lot of bonus ES, like from the passive tree or even a % increase to ES on your amulet, none of that is used before conversion. conversion happens first and then all bonuses apply. So increases to mana will convert.

[sly talon]

ty

[zinc crest]

yeah

[zinc crest]

ahh okay thx

[fringe lagoon]

Are you saying u have ES even after taking EB? Do you use Everlasting Gaze?

[zinc crest]

I think its becuase i Have a lot of bonuses es from ghostwrithe

[fringe lagoon]

Yes that should be it, first EB convert then Ghostwrithe adds ES, bonus to max %ES does not apply to EB

[pearl sluice]

Hello friends! I am looking into making a stormweaver for my next account. I need a guide that can do dumb damage and im looking more specifically a crit build. If you have any other recommendations, please let me know.

[fringe lagoon]

Not a crit build but this is a very expensive endgame build that can do a lot of damage: https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/b4315f24-644c-4722-b117-520545273aad/builds/20939dd3-bf66-433b-81b1-8235900c5b12

[pearl sluice]

how expensive is this endgame build lmfao

[fringe lagoon]

Just be careful looking at guides because there are a bunch of them that are very entry level and won't scale you hard in the endgame

As expensive as you like really 😄 You can check my pob in the mobalytics link

[wind juniper]

yo so if i use the choir of the storm amulet, it says it says lightning damage ignores enemy resistance, so would that mean i can unspec resistance pen nodes on my passive tree?

[lethal flame]

Anybody is GOAT at monk invoker Ice Strike???

I need some guidance regarding weapon

[pearl sluice]

anyone know how to adjust stat wieghts on POB 2 so i can trade up

[floral folio]

My bad thanks

[leaden salmon]

Rule 6.

[compact stream]

Can anyone recommend to stay above 75% resist on fire, cold and lightning? or, gain 40k dps but resists will be around 60%?

[ember parrot]

My recommendation is to stay up with resists. PoE2 values consistency and survivability highly with the 1 portal rule

[leaden salmon]

Also depends on what you are doing.

With the patch in 45 min we get 6 attempts on all Pinnacle bosses.

Except Simulacrum afaik

[dawn spire]

Up to you. Is that 40k dps worth taking 60% more ele damage?

[hallow wolf]

If I do this, set warcry passives on 2nd weapon set, can I switch sets just for the warcry and retain their benefits on switching back?

[dawn spire]

Yeppers

[deft crag]

You will take 60% more damage on 60 res versus someone with 75 res

[fringe lagoon]

any goat stormweaver int stacker wanna help me min/max my build?

[hallow wolf]

OMG ... so can allocate a TON of stuff just for warcries and free up those points for dmg, this seems ... crazy

[final dragon]

Ooook, Can't seem to find a straight answer. Anyone know what the best corruption on Call of the Brotherhood is?

I'm a full mana based stormweaver

[dawn spire]

Yeah, it is. I don't know if the benefits to exerted attacks persist, but the cdrr, speed, aoe, etc, should all work

[final dragon]

There is +20-30% damage, and there is raising the lightning damage conversion to around 120%, but I don't know if that actually works.

[dawn spire]

It works, but going above 100% doesn't actually do anything

It doesn't give you 20% more damage if that's what you meant

[final dragon]

Yeah, that is what I was wondering. Kind of makes sense, but I didn't know

[dawn spire]

Well, I should say that if you're only converting with that ring, then 120% does the same thing as 100%

[final dragon]

Ok ok cool.