2┃build-planning

[haughty wadi]

is this true? sounds awesome

[spare drift]

guys, question. im thinking of making a poison ranger. i was wondering if poison is considered Chaos damage?

[dawn spire]

yep, hold alt and click on underlined keywords to read more about them

[spare drift]

I see. Gunna go blind build on it without any guides. I should be Pathfinder for it though, yes?

[dawn spire]

depends on what you want out of it. Pathfinder is the only way to double your max poisons, though, so you can't go wrong with it

[spare drift]

okay. thanks

[dawn spire]

you've still looked at the ranger ascendancies, though, right?

[spare drift]

i've only done Deadeye Ranger and been following a guide for a Ice Shot + Dual Herald Crit build.

And so far, I was thinking what if, situation on the ascendancies.

Deadeye is nice too. But yea, i was thinking of Pathfinder to see if it is much better for poison dmge.

[old shuttle]

How come?

[willow narwhal]

Hello I have no idea what I’m doing can I get some help!

[old shuttle]

Lvl?

[willow narwhal]

23

Idk how to build weapons effectively I geuss

[old shuttle]

I’d say you’re too early on to fuss

Just grab dmg with levels and defences on gear.

And you’ll do well.

[dawn spire]

you don't really build gear in this game, at least during the campaign. Look for weapons with damage/mods that help your main skill(s)

check vendors every level as well. They shuffle their stock whenever you level up

[willow narwhal]

Isn’t it like gambling

[dawn spire]

there's also a gamble vendor

in act 1 Finn is the gamble vendor, Una is the arcane/flask/jewelery vendor, and the other guy is martial weapons/gear

in act 2 it's Risu/Zarka/other guy, respectively

[hybrid ocean]

Shambrin erasure...

[dawn spire]

gasundheit

[willow narwhal]

Thank you og I appreciate it imma mess around with the weapons

[hybrid ocean]

Pfft

Though that's fair, I suppose

Oswald is the best of them by far

[willow narwhal]

Oswald?

[dawn spire]

he's not til act 3

[willow narwhal]

Ohh okay last question what does corrupted do?

I haven’t gotten that far to where it tells me

[dawn spire]

on its own, a corrupted item just means it can't be further modified in any way

but the act of corrupting an item (like with a vaal orb) can have random outcomes. some good, some bad

[willow narwhal]

Okay bet

[hybrid ocean]

*Worth noting that swapping out existing runes is not considered modification

[dawn spire]

yeah it is a gamble, I suppose

or adding new runes

[willow narwhal]

Ok ok is quality kinda the same ?

[dawn spire]

kinda. press R3 to read more about it

[willow narwhal]

My friend told me to get this game and left a lot of important shit out

[dawn spire]

you can press R3 to read more about any underlined keyword/phrase

[hybrid ocean]

Generally speaking, quality improves the most basic stat of an item

[dawn spire]

imo, the fact that you can press R3 to read about stuff is the MOST important thing to know

[hybrid ocean]

Physical damage, armour/evasion/Eshield

[hybrid ocean]

^

Or alt on PC

[willow narwhal]

Much appreciated 🙌🏾🙌🏾

[hybrid ocean]

Is there a way on console to pin the window open? So you can inspect other lines on it

Or does it just do that for you by default?

Because generally anything underlined has a tooltip

[willow narwhal]

I don’t think I can pin it open but I can definitely look at it while holding R3

Actually i don’t got to hold it it stays open

[loud mica]

Whats the general consensus on the absolutely most cracked minion build? I'm currently running trench w/ 4x reavers and 9x arsonists but I feel like I'm lacking a bit

[analog gale]

no idea

[hazy cradle]

if I have Doryani's Prototype I guess lightning penetration nodes become kind of useless, right?

[old shuttle]

Correct

[hazy cradle]

or can penetration push them into negative?

[uncut bay]

it's less about your ratio of minion types and more about items, jewels, skill gems

[old shuttle]

Same with conductivity and exposures

[hazy cradle]

hmm duh yeah why am I still casting conductivity 😛

[old shuttle]

Nw boo

[uncut bay]

I mean, arsonists seem to be the way to go, but people are so strong mainly because they got great items

[dawn spire]

What would be a way for me to try to shock with the following restrictions?

1. Str stacker (only 32 dex and 34 int)
2. Gemling Legionnaire with the "gem restrictions met by highest attribute" node (so gems are not a problem, but gear is)
3. I don't mind a weapon swap, but I don't want to lose any str/life when I swap.
4. Hardcore solo self found
5. The method used to shock should not result in a stun, if at all possible. Or as little stun buildup as possible
6. Main skill is seismic cry + corrupting cry + pin
7. Scepter+shield in weapon set 1

Edit: What I've tried so far is using shield wall with lightning infusion and conduction. It doesn't even shock white mobs

[vast veldt]

in my humble opinion this is horrible

[dawn spire]

are you building for negative lightning resistance?

[hazy cradle]

still leveling and I reckon it's okay until I get something better

[dawn spire]

what's your lightning resistance?

[hazy cradle]

-10%

[dawn spire]

I guess if you don't mind dying to lightning damage

[uncut bay]

that voltaic mark or whatever it is called followed by a low level ball lightning since it has an increased shock chance. put some damage and shock chance support gems into it

[dawn spire]

good shout, I'll try it

oh, I forgot about that last line tbh

[uncut bay]

gl

[vast veldt]

stormcaller arrow no bueno?

[dawn spire]

I can only use bows from like act 1

so idk if I could even shock with one of those

[vast veldt]

800% more chance to shock so maybe, could barrage it or voltaic mark aswell, just first thing that came to mind, other than grabbing a mace and putting lightning damage and shock chance to that

[dawn spire]

yeah, part of me pondered just getting the highest base damage mace skill and using infusion + conduction

[vast veldt]

scepter so scaling minion damage?

[dawn spire]

but ball lightning might be pog

[dawn spire]

nah, just for spirit. corrupting cry doesn't scale with anything a weapon can provide other than str

lmao, can't shock a white monkey with voltaic mark + ball lightning. Ball lightning is the highest skill gem I have available and linked to conduction and deceleration

hmmmm

[vast veldt]

i guess lack of scaling shows

[dawn spire]

indeed

[vast veldt]

mace it is!

[dawn spire]

wellll

I don't really have any scaling for that either lol

this is my tree

[vast veldt]

if whatever stats that mace has doesn't work then maybe you don't shock, or you need to find pillar of god or something like that

[dawn spire]

yeah I'm trying to figure out other ways I can multiply my damage

this is my only other idea I have at the moment, and it takes 4 points to reach

[vast veldt]

quivers dont have stat requirements so that one unique bow might work also

[dawn spire]

true. I just gotta find it in hcssf (:

[vast veldt]

yep! got those chance orbs? 😄

[dawn spire]

maybe the ball lightning would work if I got a low level staff and used my 24 weapon set points for lightning damage, shock chance, and mark effect

[vast veldt]

and damage

[dawn spire]

I included damage

or was that for emphasis?

[vast veldt]

nah i just can't read

[dawn spire]

valid

damn, why I gotta be so far from mark nodes?

[vast veldt]

exposed wounds has 45% ailment chance thats near your passives

flash storm is going to be near your path soon

[waxen jewel]

I just came here, I'm curious what is this about?

Is there some way to create jagged ground with marks?

[dawn spire]

@waxen jewel

nah, different ways to achieve the same end - more damage for my dumbass build

[half spire]

Have anyone tried Astramentis+Necromantic talisman? If so how much DPS increase is it compared to a normal +3 minion level amulet

[waxen jewel]

Yeah first thing for shock that comes to mind is mark of lightning thing

But you need some added lightning too

[dawn spire]

why would attributes be beneficial to minions?

[half spire]

Just trying something out with that keystone

[dawn spire]

yeah, but, like, they'd just get more mana (useless), accuracy (basically useless), and like 200 life

[waxen jewel]

But added lightning would stun some of the time

[dawn spire]

yeah, this build is really stupid lol. I think the jagged ground might be the play here. Or some way to create shocked ground maybe?

OH. WAIT

what are some things you can place down and inflict ailments on?

Bell is one, right?

[waxen jewel]

Hmm, how does jagged ground do shock though?

[dawn spire]

this isn't about jagged ground, sorry, I'm jumping around a lot lol

[waxen jewel]

There's eye of winter that transfer's ground effects, you might be interested in that (no idea how playable that is though)

[dawn spire]

I was thinking I could place something down that's super easy to shock, and then use that support that spreads shocks to nearby enemies

[waxen jewel]

Idk about frostbolt and ball lightning

You can target both and I know you can crit the first one

[vast veldt]

bell copies whatever element yes

but it scales off quarterstaff damage afaik

[dawn spire]

the idea of using bell is giving me an aneurism, so is there anything else?

[vast veldt]

just rod+orb of storms lel

[dawn spire]

sigh

sound of silence plays in the background

[waxen jewel]

Bell just scales damage when inflicted ailment and AoE when inflicted stun If I understand right

[dawn spire]

but the point is you CAN inflict an ailment on it

[waxen jewel]

Of course you can inflict ailment with that, but it's just normal damage AFAIK

Oh right

Right

I see

[dawn spire]

and then you use this

so as long as the hit shocks the bell, it has a chance to also shock nearby enemies

unless the bell doesn't count as an enemy

[vast veldt]

creating a damaging shockwave. Elemental Ailments applied to the Bell cause its shockwaves to deal extra damage of the corresponding type

[dawn spire]

I don't care what the bell does

[vast veldt]

yes you dooo

[rancid cipher]

If I one shot a mob with fire damage will it be ignited before it dies or does it need to survive the hit?

[dawn spire]

all I care about is using something like ball lightning to shock the bell, which will also cause it to shock nearby enemies

all the bell is doing is being an entity that I can shock

and I don't fuckin wanna swap to a qstaff and hit stuff 4 times to be able to place a bell so I can maybe shock a boss, so I want to find some other entity I can shock easily

[vast veldt]

iirc you cannot shock the bell and the bell doesn't shock but it can deal lightning damage

[dawn spire]

then how do you apply an ailment to the bell?

[vast veldt]

if you hit the bell with lightning the bell does lightning

[dawn spire]

but that's not applying an ailment to it

that's just doing damage of that type to it

[vast veldt]

hmm..true

i guess you can shock the bell!

[dawn spire]

lemme test this shit

[vast veldt]

but like you said it is very slow way of doing it, i'd still go towards bow or mace

[waxen jewel]

Is your weapon set II already taken? I mean, can't you just get the bell with weapon set II and then switch to your actual whatever gives the ailment weapon? This way you can just use easy to equip quarterstaff (underleveld)

[rancid cipher]

I've always wondered if Stormweaver's double ailment ascendancies count towards the bell.

It doesn't say that they need to be unique.

[vast veldt]

or ball of lightning if you spend those 24 points in lightning damage

[dawn spire]

yeah bell is NOT the play, but I'm hoping this works for stuff like shield wall, ice wall, etc

[waxen jewel]

Ohh we are thinking of the same shit...

[dawn spire]

I just gotta find a zone where ball lightning doesn't shock enemies normally

[waxen jewel]

Are you going for lightning warp?

[dawn spire]

nah

[waxen jewel]

What other sources of shocked ground is there?

[vast veldt]

@dawn spire

[dawn spire]

omfg I'm an idiot and/or you're a genius

I had no idea lightning warp made shocked ground

problem solved

[waxen jewel]

lol

[dawn spire]

holy shit thank you

[waxen jewel]

Umm...

[dawn spire]

yeah I might add those to set 2 for shocking stuff, but honestly with 10s of shocked ground I'm a happy camper

[vast veldt]

does using it on ball of lightning cause shocked ground?

[dawn spire]

I'm about to find out

[waxen jewel]

So are you using pin support to nullify the stun buildup of seismic cry? Is that the core build?

[dawn spire]

https://tenor.com/view/breakingbad-science-yeah-science-gif-5954775

[potent fable]

Need knowledge, im using this as gloves on a spark sorc, should i look for a better suited or keep using it due to 100% spell dmg?

[dawn spire]

yep

[waxen jewel]

Context please. What is your level

[potent fable]

90

[dawn spire]

holy shit

[waxen jewel]

....

[dawn spire]

those gloves are likely awful for you

take them off and I'd bet you gain dps

no cap

[potent fable]

[dawn spire]

they reduce your cast speed

[waxen jewel]

Isn't spark like really low damage?

[potent fable]

yea, but give 100 spell...

[dawn spire]

and you likely have so much %inc damage that the cast speed is actually fucking you

[waxen jewel]

Added damage on gloves should be huge

[potent fable]

60k

[dawn spire]

it's not added damage

it's 100% inc damage which is additive with ALL other %increased damage mods

[waxen jewel]

I mean the alternative of playing rare gloves

[dawn spire]

so if you have 1000% inc damage total on weapon, tree, etc, then those gloves are really only giving you like 9% more damage

at the cost of 24% cast speed

which is nuts

[potent fable]

[dawn spire]

just take them off and see how your tooltip dps changes

it's a very easy test

[potent fable]

yea, i get near 5k extra with an empty space

[dawn spire]

lmfao

[waxen jewel]

Maybe you could use some cast speed too

If it's that drastic

[dawn spire]

you get shocked ground even with ball lightning. poggers

[potent fable]

i got 50% from the rings

[dawn spire]

yeah my guess is that you have soooooo much increased damage that the gloves are basically useless

[waxen jewel]

You got points on the arcane surge scaling?

IDK anything, just curious

I mean on the ascendancy tree

[potent fable]

yea, got it

[waxen jewel]

I'm just jeoulous I want to play wizard

[potent fable]

what would be a good thing to look out for in the gloves?

[waxen jewel]

Annoyed by playing deadeye when It's small corridor or tiny ritual area all the time

[vast veldt]

i don't think a caster is going to help you there

maybe spark

[waxen jewel]

Ohh you mean me? :D

Fair enough

Monk it is then

But caster's are notoriously tanky though

[frosty fulcrum]

is it common for sellers to demand more than what stuff is listed for on the trade site?

[potent fable]

some of them yea...

i just ignore those

[waxen jewel]

Good place to spawn near exclusive +% max health

nodes

[frosty fulcrum]

any genuine person selling a pair of HOWA here?

[dawn spire]

if you have no %increased damage or cast speed at all, then those gloves are basically double damage but 24% less cast speed, or 52% more damage. But if you get no cast speed and just keep getting %increased damage, those gloves become useless at 217% inc damage

@potent fable

and beyond 217% they lose you damage (assuming you don't get any %inc cast speed)

[waxen jewel]

If you are playing Archmage, don''t you want +max mana on gloves

[dawn spire]

probably

[formal violet]

Rule 6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See #trading for alternatives.

[dawn spire]

@frosty fulcrum

[waxen jewel]

Another good thing for wizards. Every item slot has a defensive/offsensive affix

[rancid cipher]

If I one shot an enemy with fire damage does it get ignited before it dies?

[dawn spire]

yeah that's how I feel about str on my build

[dawn spire]

it can

[potent fable]

better, now spark 80k

just got em

i belive its survivable

[vast veldt]

level 90 and not cap ressed?

[dawn spire]

wtf

[potent fable]

untill 48h ago i was clearing t10 with negative res sooooo......

[dawn spire]

this is me at t2 maps

how tf are you clearing maps?

[rancid cipher]

It can meaning that the chance to ignite is there, it just depends on the threshold? Are there ailment thresholds that are higher than the total health of an enemy?

[dawn spire]

I guess spark just kills stuff without needing to be near enemies

[potent fable]

spark and arc

[dawn spire]

It can, as in, you still roll the chance to ignite as usual

[waxen jewel]

Amazing potential to finally find an upgrade (the right one), but I'm out of chaos to work with

[marsh sparrow]

Hello any titan players in chat?

If so is hotg better with ignite or bleed

[dawn spire]

I've heard poison is pretty rad

[marsh sparrow]

Imagine😂

[potent fable]

i use mine with ignite due to the ash buff

[waxen jewel]

lol

[marsh sparrow]

Yea I've been using ignite and it oneshots everything but I've seen builds swearing by bleed

Usually just have bleed on my sunder

[potent fable]

anyways, thx guys, helped alot on those gloves

[potent fable]

should i keep the 40% of the armor or trade for +10% of all res?

[hollow bronze]

anybody help me buy a new Body armor?

[fading agate]

Does anyone here have a molten blast deadeye build?

[waxen jewel]

umm

Please don't tell me the molten blast is for frenzy charges

Ohh nvm, I mixed it up

With magma barrier

[fading agate]

Nono

Is there a tool that like helps me simulate builds?

[fringe lagoon]

how to get more mana/intelligence? https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/ih1nb015

[atomic halo]

hmm, that slipped through our automod for some reason

[muted dagger]

Heyheyheyhey, so I'm playing stormwave gemling rn, and I have pillar of caged god and HOWA are there any other uniques I should focus on getting?

[atomic halo]

morior

atziri's disdain if you're playing that version

[scenic zodiac]

When looking to buy an Ingenuity Belt, how many % of increased effects of rings does it need to be worth exchanging your belt for? i wanna buy one, but i can't afford a really good one, so just want a decent one, but not sure at which point it would be a "waste"

[tidal shell]

For Deadeye Ranger is Lightning better for Poison (Chaos) for end game

[open ocean]

how high should my bleed chance be if i cast one spell per sec ?

[atomic halo]

the thing is that the belt modpool is really weak

so even a 40% one is probably better than anything you could get from a rare

how much can you afford rn?

[uncut bay]

bleed is a good thing so as high as possible as long as it doesn't hurt your other mods

[dawn spire]

@waxen jewelwith a lucky jewel roll and the right supports, I now have way better mobility and 39% shocks on everything. You're the goat

[waxen jewel]

Wow nice

I'm so desperate for more mobility I know these obscure things :(

[dawn spire]

this support is silly with lightning warp since it doesn't lower the duration of the shocked ground

[waxen jewel]

I'm playing weapon swap to cooldown reduction shield + wand blink on my weapon set II on my lightning arrow deadeye after all lolz

[dawn spire]

damn

[waxen jewel]

Yeah

Ohh shit

You cheat that completely

[uncut bay]

switch to gemling to double your mana
and buy items with more ES

[waxen jewel]

the duration part

[open ocean]

i am currently at 55%, i could reach 75% but would lose around ~400k bleed dps

[uncut bay]

you can't just ask a question without context like that, generally I recommend weighted searches so you don't over focus on a single mod

[open ocean]

what would the context be ?
theres bleed chance on non uniques ?

[uncut bay]

you are asking how high your bleed chance should be, one would have to see your entire passive tree, items and skills gems to answer that

[open ocean]

i can send it once i am on my pc, you wanna review it ?

[uncut bay]

nah, sorry

[open ocean]

(:

[rancid cipher]

I've noticed that most end game builds seem to scale off crit. How much crit is actually needed for it to be worth it? Currently I'm struggling to find the room for it.

[fringe lagoon]

For what ascendancy?

[rancid cipher]

Currently these are the only two nodes I have that focus on it. = /

[restive mortar]

are there any builds that use crit poison as well as meta energy?

[rancid cipher]

I'm doing some awkward attempt at a Stormweaver that uses a quarterstaff. It's basically a typical monk build that can take advantage of easy to proc heralds and double shock for both enemies and bell. I have a decent focus on shock magnitude atm which is why I wanted to snag this node.

[uncut bay]

you go for crits if your skill has a high crit chance, like 12% and up and/or you have a lot of skill points left after picking the must have passives

as much crit as possible, crit is always good, even if you use lightning rod, then it's just not as good

once you get a lot of crit chance it makes more sense to lean into crit damage and vise versa

[fringe lagoon]

OK, there are plenty of crit nodes on the tree - I think having enough chance AND bonus is better than having high chance and low bonus or vice versa. Consider jewels (rare and time-lost) to further buff your crit.

[uncut bay]

well, if there is some crit interaction like for invoker or blood mage, then it also makes sense to go for crits

yeah, balance chance and damage out

[rancid cipher]

Tempest Flurry seems to have a 22% chance atm with what I have selected on the tree.

[vast veldt]

got that crit on quarterstaff too?

[dawn spire]

that is not including conditional modifiers like increased crit chance vs shocked enemies

[rancid cipher]

No sadly. My funds are pretty limited and I got a nice quarterstaff but not with crit. It has 15% block which is nice for other reasons, just not this one haha.

[vast veldt]

it helps alot

[rancid cipher]

Wait does shock make enemies more likely to be crit?

[dawn spire]

no, but you showed this node:

[rancid cipher]

Ah right right ok. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't also built in my bad. hah

It also doesn't count the skill node I can put on my amulet which I haven't done yet. I assume that puts me close to 26% with both? Around there?

[dawn spire]

what's your base crit chance?

[rancid cipher]

How do I see that? I've only been able to see it when looking at skills directly.

[dawn spire]

if you're using a weapon, it's your weapon's crit chance

[vivid burrow]

Is there anyway I can get more spirit

[rancid cipher]

Weapon says 10%.

[uncut bay]

oh boy, so there are unique shield and ring with spirit, corrupted rare helmets with spirit, spirit unique chest, jewel

and sceptres

[vivid burrow]

Minion builds needing spirit I'm kind of new to this whole entire thing

[waxen jewel]

I'm starting to get pretty pissed off of these labyrinth map layouts

SO few open space

It was fine in PoE1 with phasing and infinite mobility

[fleet blaze]

is there a website with pobs of chars like ninja yet?

[fringe lagoon]

damn if there is I def wanna add mine

[dawn spire]

So then 25% inc crit chance would add 2.5% actual crit chance

[dawn spire]

a scepter is probably your most important source of spirit, then. especially in the campaign

[orchid acorn]

Is going from a xbow with 550 dps to a xbow with 590dps worth a divine?

[dawn spire]

depends on how much a divine means to you, how much 40 base dps means to you, and what other avenues you could explore for that much power related to the price of a divine

[orchid acorn]

Idk what they mean, I haven't had it

Idk where to get more power, I deal little damage, like killing Zarokh or whatever is hard

Takes too long

[dawn spire]

if you have no way way to get that much power for your build that by spending a divine, then go for it

[orchid acorn]

Compared to videos using my same build

[dawn spire]

but I doubt that spending a divine is the cheapest way to get 7.3% more dps

[orchid acorn]

Idk if there is no way to get that much power, because idk how much power it is to begin with, this is new territory for me

[orchid acorn]

I can get 560dps xbow for a few ex, would that be better?

[dawn spire]

this is why questions like "Is X worth?" are impossible difficult to answer

[orchid acorn]

I just assumed someone here using crossbow would know if such little extra (550 to 590) is noticeable or no, so I can know if I should invest my only divine in such a thing

[dawn spire]

In order to give a definitive answer you would need to know:

1. The entire market economy for that item
2. The amount of currency you possess
3. Incredibly deep knowledge of optimizing that build
4. All the details of your current build
5. How much dps means to you compared to movement speed, defense, etc

[dawn spire]

it's 7.3% more dps

[orchid acorn]

Because even tho my defenses are not ideal and could be improved, I feel like killing faster would work better

[dawn spire]

find a support gem that gives about 7% dps and see if it's noticeable if you swap it on/off

[dense oriole]

Which would be better for a galvanic shards build?

[clear sluice]

has anyone seen a howa mace slammer?

titan ish

[orchid acorn]

Idk if that is a lot, for me I would say that anything below 90% is low but I don't have much experience with the game and its values, so I could be entirely wrong and even 4% would be a big improvement

[clear sluice]

i want to see what kind of decisions or tech they do

[dawn spire]

look at your support gems, are you using any that give "more damage"?

if so, try removing one and see how it feels

[orchid acorn]

Are you asking me to tell you those? I could, but I feel that is more a thing of more experienced people telling me that is just a 7%dps increase and that such a thing is really not important or that is a huge improvement

[dawn spire]

no, I'm saying that no one can be bothered to provide all those and do the in-depth calculations to determine "worth"

[orchid acorn]

Yeah, I am following a guide, but it calls for a 600+dps xbow by lvl 80 or so and I am 91 with a 550dps xbow

[late fiber]

Any1 know how I can get more damage on my spark? (Ignore the other skills)

Making sprk stormweaver

[dawn spire]

can you screenshot your xbow?

[orchid acorn]

So I am behind of the guide, but idk how to get the item they are asking me to wear

[orchid acorn]

Sure

[dawn spire]

equip a weapon

[dawn spire]

so really all you needed was an attack speed roll on that and you'd be at 600 dps ez

[late fiber]

Only went to 625

[dawn spire]

early on, your damage is largely determined by supports, combo skills, weapon, and passive tree

you also gain dps by using flame wall and orb of storms in tandem with spark

[orchid acorn]

The one I looked up in the market had one and its dps was 590, would that be better? Because one with 600+ is 5 divines (my capital is 80ex and 1 divine)

So that is out of the menu for the moment

[dawn spire]

do you need physical dps, specifically?

[orchid acorn]

Yes

[dawn spire]

what's your main skill?

and/or why do you need specifically phys

[orchid acorn]

Explosive Shot + Shockburst Rounds

[dawn spire]

one just got listed for 100x ex 6 minutes ago:

[orchid acorn]

Because the skills convert physical damage into elemental damage, as well as ice and thunder heralds

[dawn spire]

but also, there are likely other ways to boost your dps. Added physical damage on gloves, for example, would scale your damage

[orchid acorn]

Doesn't look half bad, lacks the life on kill I have on my current one, but I guess I can survive without it... Although is too expensive

[dawn spire]

the heralds don't give a crap about your weapon. And if you convert to elemental damage, it doesn't matter if the weapon has phys or that element

[orchid acorn]

Testing it turned out that having more phys damage did more damage overall than having elemental damage

[dawn spire]

depending on the rolls, yeah

[orchid acorn]

I am not so knowledgeable in the matter to be perfectly honest

[orchid acorn]

I'm talking on similar ground, but yeah

[dawn spire]

but if most of your damage is coming from a phys to lightning attack, then total phys damage on your weapon and total lightning damage on your weapon are identical

[orchid acorn]

Yeah I have been trying as well, but I always mess up my resistances, I have a lot of gear that I bought then had to change immediately after another gear change messed my resistances in there

[late fiber]

Hitting like a noodle

[dawn spire]

your tree is atrocious and you're not actually showing the stats on your wand/focus

[orchid acorn]

Using these at the moment

[dawn spire]

literally all these nodes with a red dot could be removed and your tree would remain intact. That's all stuff that could be going into damage instead of energy shield

stop speccing into energy shield

also

remove mind over matter

okay, I need to remake this because I missed a lot of energy shield

remove the red, add the green, you'll do way more dps

[late fiber]

I was following a yt guide for the tree

I guess they steered me wrong 😢

[dawn spire]

yes they did

[late fiber]

Damn

Spent like 50k gold

[dawn spire]

maybe that was for a super endgame tree

but those nodes do absolutely nothing early on

[late fiber]

Reseeting it too

[dawn spire]

the whole reason you get a ton of ES on a spark archmage build is because you convert the energy shield to mana with eldritch battery, then use archmage to gain damage based on your mana

until you have all that stuff, it's just wasted points

well, not entirely wasted, but they're just giving you ES which is pretty bad on its own without solid ES gear and/or a way to restore it

[winter vortex]

Iz Chronomancer-monk doable?

[orchid acorn]

Tried to look for some gloves that added proper phys damage while maintaining my resistances and it's 1 divine as well... is that a better investment than the 590dps xbow?

[dawn spire]

chronomancer is an ascendancy of sorceress, so no

[late fiber]

Damn

I followed NickTew on YouTube

[dawn spire]

if you mean, "can you use quarterstaff attacks on a chronomancer?" then the answer is yes. All classes can use all skill gems/gear

[orchid acorn]

This one in particular, is that a good phys dmg mod?

[atomic halo]

solid yeah

[dawn spire]

that seems like a really good pair of gloves, tbh

[orchid acorn]

Would that be a better investment than the xbow?

[dawn spire]

idk if that's how you'll get the most value out of your div tho

[orchid acorn]

I see

[dawn spire]

I doubt it, honestly

[atomic halo]

usually the weapon is always the most important

[dawn spire]

what supports are on your main skills?

and do they have quality?

sometimes the quality bonus can be straight up "20% more damage" at 20% quality

[orchid acorn]

Scattershot, Martial Tempo, Conduction, Fire Pen, Primal Armament

[orchid acorn]

Yeah, I bought tons of gcp and have everything at 20% quality

[dawn spire]

conduction and fire pen is weird to me

[orchid acorn]

I use three dragons

[dawn spire]

ahh

[orchid acorn]

So my explosive shot can shock and then I use shockburst rounds to kill bosses and rares

[orchid acorn]

Is apparently a 7.3% dps increase for 1 divine, would that be wise?

[orchid acorn]

Can you add quality to support gems?

[dawn spire]

nope

[urban maple]

One question, for the monk invoker i need better quarterstaff and I don't understand if i need to look for higher dps or better stats on that quarterstaff and if my weapon has +6 level to male skills if i put another weapon my dps is lower for around 40k...what to do?

[orchid acorn]

Oh, thought I missed it and that could be my fix lol

[atomic halo]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/QDv0KleHw

if you can stomach the mana cost this one is at least 20% more dps

[orchid acorn]

Would it be better to use that divine to fuel a new character and hopefully make that one work? I feel like there is no way for me to progress any furthe

[orchid acorn]

That says it has 551,2 dps

[atomic halo]

well yeah, it doesnt account for the +4 to all proj

[orchid acorn]

Ah right, I don't know if I can, as of now my mana is drained relatively fast, I have to use an MP potion every pack I kill

[atomic halo]

maybe not now then

but something to keep in mind, that +levels is 5% more dps per

[orchid acorn]

I see, well I do need to get my skills to lvl 20, but haven't had the luck of finding a gem

[dawn spire]

level 20 skill gems are pretty rare from what I understand

[orchid acorn]

So, I'll leave that out of the menu as well

[orchid acorn]

What do you guys think of this?

[vast veldt]

afaik you need level 82 area to even get a chance for lvl 20 skill gem to drop

[orchid acorn]

I see, I can only go to 79 at the moment and even that is a stretch sometimes depening on the mods

Does the Crossbow Shot "skill" matter when using Explosive shot as the ammunition? Like if I put some assist gems in crossbow shot would they impact the explosive shot?

[orchid acorn]

Sorry to insist on this one, but I'd love to know what the consensus is regarding this so I can choose what to do next, as of now I am just waiting. Thanks in advance for the replies

[vast veldt]

If you only got one divine its usually best to change it to exalts and if you feel like doing a new toon go for it

[ember parrot]

Hey, anyone else playing around with "Cast on Block" who can maybe answer my question from earlier?

[ember parrot]

From my experience: No. The Supports for "Crossbow Shot" only count for the "Default Ammo".

[vast veldt]

@orchid acorn endgame gets kind of confusing on how one is suppose to progress, if you like playing your current char it might take 10 divs to mess around with gear and skills and passives but progress is there

[ember parrot]

IMO Endgame was not that hard to progress once one has a OP combo... in my case, Shockburst rounds + Ball Lightning + Lightning Warp + Herald of Thunder

Carried me from T1 to T15 7mod maps

The more annoying part is now getting the invitations to get Leauge Atlas Tree Points. (Breachstones, Invitations, Simulacrums)

[vast veldt]

endgame is not difficult but its where you usually start finding your build limits and quirks

[ember parrot]

True, did change my build around a bit... But also once one reaches T13+ one has an okay chance for div drops, which slingshot gear forwards.

[vast veldt]

and thats the point im trying to make. @orchid acorn needs to figure out if he wants to go trough that hurdle or make a new toon

[waxen jewel]

Played lightning arrow Deadeye for 90 levels now and I just now realise ball lightning gets more chains with levels ...

[hidden hedge]

Hi everyone, I've been playing Titan until level 57, but the moveset is definitely not for me. Are there any recommendations to fast-paced and ranged classes?

[waxen jewel]

at level 15 there's s a ball lightning breakpoint

[fringe lagoon]

does +rarity on gear affect drops in simulacrum?

[austere locust]

if i had ingenuity( say 50%). would this mean 150% lightning convert to cold or am i stupid and 100% convert is hardcap

[atomic halo]

the game looks at all the conversion

and scales it down if it's over 100%

so if you gave 150% convert it would be scaled down to 100%

this matters if you have convert from other sources of lightning to another type

having ingenuity with that would result in a greater proportion of your final damage being cold

but you dont just get 50% more dmg or anything like that

[austere locust]

ty for your help, but sadge

[atomic halo]

or else you'd just wear that ring twice

[austere locust]

would be disgusting broken tho so understandable

[ember parrot]

As said above, I play gemling with Shockburst + Ball Lightning + Lightning Warp + Herald of Thunder.
https://youtu.be/0RZlbITyhTM For an example of how it runs in maps.

[ember parrot]

Convert is hardcap. But if the ring had "x% of damage as extra cold damage" like the new painter gloves it would be "extra" damage on top.

[upbeat crow]

guys im gemling leggionaire when i put lightning infusion i get 50k more dps than lightning exposure, should i just go infusion?

[royal adder]

Anyone have idea about Adorned tiers?

theres was such a info for poe1 i think

not sure here is working the same way

[ember parrot]

Go both. Infusion in your main skill, exposure on a 2nd skill, best one that drops shocked ground.

The thing is: exposure is not listed in the DPS calc.

[upbeat crow]

oh wait

[ember parrot]

Since it reduced enemy resistance (and can lower it below 0!)

[upbeat crow]

i has lightning penatration rn instead of infusion

is that okay or do i just go infusion

[ember parrot]

I usually skip lightning penetration.

[upbeat crow]

ngl i felt like i do more dmg with it

[ember parrot]

I use exposure + conductivity via blasphemy support. Usually drops enemy resist around 50~60%

[upbeat crow]

i see

[ember parrot]

For most enemies that moves it into negative resists, then pen becomes useless.

[upbeat crow]

oh ok ty man

[ember parrot]

Point at video
Also playing a lightning build. 🤣

But yeah, overcharge + strip away + lightning exposure on a Lightning Warp (Requires Int) or Gathering Storm (Requires Q-Staff) work really well.

Still annoyed Cast on Block is so bad x.x

[old ermine]

What ascendancy has faster mapping options? Pathfinder or Deadeye?

[thorny fractal]

may i get resistances in jewel?

[ember parrot]

Only max resists in normal jewel or "x resistance to small passive skills in range" via time-lost Jewels.

[simple juniper]

Haya, does anyone knows a spark build that has more than 30k dps? Looking to boost my dps by quite a bit, but can't seem to do it properly

[fringe lagoon]

Build matters but so does gear/levels

[simple juniper]

Gear is decent, lvl 81 so far, but I expected about 40k or so dps

No unique except the amulet that gives energy shield, forgot its name

[ember parrot]

Wand/Staff with "extra damage as lightning" and "+# Level of Lightning skills"?

[thorny fractal]

what about corrupt?

[normal marsh]

Yes you can

[simple juniper]

Wand for spark + staff for sigil

[fringe lagoon]

This is very high budget for you, but feel free to check it out if you like

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/b4315f24-644c-4722-b117-520545273aad/builds/20939dd3-bf66-433b-81b1-8235900c5b12

[simple juniper]

I appreciate the link, seems expensive, but got a character than's flying in maps, at least I can farm more divines

[fringe lagoon]

It is very expensive, especially top end

Still some players gave it a try and were able to scale to 100-200k with some effort, mostly following the recommended gear progression. For alternative setups try to look for crit no ES spark builds.

[orchid acorn]

Thanks a lot

[orchid acorn]

But how would that be possible, if in 91 levels I only managed to get 1 divine, am I forced to do low level content in hopes to drop something (Harder level will make me lose all xp real fast. I need the gear to make 10 divines, but I need 10 divines to get the gear

[orchid acorn]

I want to go trough that hurdle, but I do not know what is best and idk how to go through it

[ember parrot]

Incremental improvements. In this case I would focus on fixing survivability first. I assume your resists are maxed?

If not, consider Elemental Defense Rings

[orchid acorn]

Yes, except Chaos, that one is at 60%

But how do I make an improvement, a 7.3% dps increase cost all I have ever found in my 91 levels

The tiniest upgrade is extremely expensive

[ember parrot]

Hmmm... Maybe it's not the correct combo of skills?

You got your main skills at 4 slot 20% Quality already?

[orchid acorn]

Well, I am following a guide and I have everything it has, except a few things like lvl 20 skills and a couple perfect jeweller orbs as well as lower numbers overall... but any upgrade is 1 or more divines

[orchid acorn]

Is a 6 link and yes, 20% already

All my skills are 20% and 5 link except ones he said were not important

Like Herald of Ash that goes empty

[sullen needle]

Is cast on Crit remotely viable for anything? That is a lot of spirit for what seems like something I could do much easier with Cast on Minion Death

[ivory stone]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/alkaizer-stampede-hotg?weaponSet=set1

This a good build to follow started the game last weekish and have been following it now on act 3 cruel cruising along atm
Just wondering if it can transition well too late game activities or if everything I've built following this will be a waste

[ember parrot]

I dont follow a build guide, so i can only give rough recommendations. Maybe there are upgrades besides the ones mentioned in the build?

[vast veldt]

depends if that build you're following is even viable low budget. i think that one div weapon is enough to do t15 maps to get better gear but you need to figure out why your build isn't working. might be simple as that you're facetanking mobs as a ranged toon like i do sometimes on my ranger and wonder why i die

[orchid acorn]

I also think there has to be something more than what is mentiones in the build, but I cannot imagine one

[ember parrot]

What build do you follow? Where is your biggest pain point?

[orchid acorn]

The build itself is working, I can do T15 maps with my 550dps crossbow and I die only to some one shots

But juicing a map too much or trying to fight a boss like Zarokh or Xesht, is instant death

[ember parrot]

More Str? Xoph's Blood? Better defensive Anoint?

[orchid acorn]

And the guide says next, get to this point and that point is just so far from reach

[orchid acorn]

After meeting my requirements, all goes into STR, the better annoint idk what it could be, at the moment is just more MP regen and less cost of skills, because MP ain't great

And cannot use Xoph's blood or I lose 50 spirit and that is 2 heralds

[ember parrot]

How is your spirit used up right now?

[orchid acorn]

Wind Dancer, Ghost Dance, Overwhelming Prescence, Herald of Ice and Herald of Thunder

I used to have Herald of Ash instead of Ghost Dance, but needed the extra defense

Without Wind Dancer or Ghost Dance I die quickly

Without the other 3 I deal no damage

[ember parrot]

Hmmm... Overwhelming Presence is a must have?

Which status effect do you need? Are there alternative sources?

[pearl sluice]

Monk

[orchid acorn]

Shock mainly

[ember parrot]

Shocking Ground an option?

[orchid acorn]

Explosive shot kills in aoe and applies shock and shockburst rounds deal a lot of damage to bosses/rares

[ember parrot]

Shockburst has enough clear to solo without explositve shot

Also, true, monk can be funny bonking.

[orchid acorn]

It does nothing if I dont use explosive shot first

[ember parrot]

Shocked ground instantly AOE shocks 95% of enemies (only flying insects are immune)

[ember parrot]

Again, showed it here

And that was before HOWA

[vale frost]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/vs2rt0ye
Feedback me, Titan AOE, Cooldown reduction, Bleed, ES.

[ivory stone]

Titan has been both fun and quick for me

[orchid acorn]

What is shocked ground? I can only finds that is an ailment

[vale frost]

i wanted to get split the earth on titan, but im not sure its neccisary (18 total, 21 with titan)

i got armor instead, sounded smart as it effects energy shield

[ember parrot]

It is a ground effect that also appears in maps. However, players can apply it via Lightning Warp (Requires Int/Gemling) or via Gathering Storm perfect moment (Requires Quaterstaff).

Instantly applies shock to any enemy walking on it, reapplies shock every second if you consume it with a skill

[orchid acorn]

So I can't use it

I am a Witch Hunter and use Crossbow

[ember parrot]

Got 95 int?

Cause that's the minimal int this would require

72 Int for Lightning Warp, 95 Int for Ball Lightning

And dunno if your build guide also points at a HOWA as endgame gloves, but if yes it's also good to have some Int for those

[orchid acorn]

No, I have 66... Could exchange sime HP for it tho

[orchid acorn]

I could replace explosive shot by one of those, but there is no space for both

[orchid acorn]

Yes, but the ones recommended are like 200div

[ember parrot]

Could replace the other with Overwheling presence, you stun slower, but it would open up spirit

[orchid acorn]

I do not stun

[ember parrot]

Let me guess. Corrupted to have higher lightning dmg and attack speed?

[orchid acorn]

Yes, and DEX beyond max

[ember parrot]

Honestly, that is not really a guide I would follow, cause there we enter Christmas land teritorry.

[orchid acorn]

What is that?

[ember parrot]

"Let us wish everything to be perfect and optimal, no matter how achievable it is. Everything drops perfectly as if they are chrismas presents for us after all..."

BTW should we thread our discussion so we don't flood this channel?

[orchid acorn]

I am afraid english is not my tongue, but does it mean is too good to be true?

[ember parrot]

Yeah, kind of

[orchid acorn]

https://youtu.be/BZdZ0qq7_94?si=kJGtBj1A0e51wCIS

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/explosive-shot-witchhunter-build-guide

This is the build in question

[ember parrot]

Hmmm... interesting

Did not consider that helm so far. Might be interesting in my build as well.

[rancid cipher]

How does movement speed work as a stat? I have around 40% but it shows 34.8% on my sheet.

[median terrace]

What is good dps for ice lighting invoker

[atomic halo]

non pure dex body armour and shield have penalties

hidden ones

the exact number depends on the attr req of the base

[rancid cipher]

Is this penalty lowered by attribute reduction?

[atomic halo]

reduced attribute requirements?

no

[rancid cipher]

kk

[atomic halo]

you can see here https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Movement_speed

[rancid cipher]

So something is weird about this, maybe you can help. I have 34.8% movement speed with everything equipped. When I remove a talent that gives me 4% movement speed I go down to 31%. This is weird to me because this 4% node is somehow adding 4.8% movement speed. It gets weirder though. When I remove the 5% movement speed that my chest offers I go from 34.8% to 34%. How is 5% movement speed only giving me .8%?

[atomic halo]

read the page i linked

the calculations are weird

[topaz halo]

is HOW better with 2 slots or 11 ligh dmg or 4 attack speed?

[atomic halo]

When I remove the 5% movement speed that my chest offers I go from 34.8% to 34%. How is 5% movement speed only giving me .8%?

that body has a ms penalty, as i said

so it partially cancels out

[rancid cipher]

I've read through the page, I'm just not understanding I guess. I do understand that it has a penalty (in this case 3%) and I also understand that the modifications to movement speed come after this penalty. What I don't understand is why the passive node is drastically different than the modifier on the body armor, despite being a lower percentage added.

[atomic halo]

I have 34.8% movement speed with everything equipped. When I remove a talent that gives me 4% movement speed I go down to 31%.
97*1.39 = 134.83
97*1.35 = 130.95

[rancid cipher]

That link uses this formula for 20% movement speed boots:
(100-3)*1.2 = 116.4

Based on this the body armor would in theory give me 1.85% movement speed since it offers 5% right?

[atomic halo]

100 * 1.34 = 134
97 * 1.39 = 134.83

[rancid cipher]

Is there a reason this doesn't seem to work the same for passive nodes?

[atomic halo]

my calculation above (#2┃build-planning message) matches what you said and follows the same rules

the diff is that the body armour applies a -3 to the 100, which makes things different, but the inc. movement speed is still applying the same

[rancid cipher]

The node offers 4% movement speed and it brings my movement speed down to 31%.

The chest offers 5% and it brings my movement speed down to 34%.

[atomic halo]

well yeah, you left the penalty out of the chest part!

of course your movement speed wouldnt go down so much, as you lose a penalty, which will counteract the loss of the implicit

[rancid cipher]

So passive nodes don't use the penalty?

[atomic halo]

they do

[rancid cipher]

"Other modifiers to movement speed apply to the movement speed value after penalties."

So I'm a bit confused sorry.

Promise I'm not trying to waste your time hah, just trying to grasp it.

[atomic halo]

consider what happens when you unallocate the node / take off the body

[rancid cipher]

If they both have the penalty my brain can't grasp how a smaller number results in a larger gap.

ok

So by removing the armor I'm removing the penalty.

I understand.

Right

So the small amount I'm seeing isn't because it's small

It's because the armor is big.

lol

Ok ok

I think I understand now.

[atomic halo]

node: -4% increased movement speed
body: -5% increased movement speed and -3% ms penalty
factoring in the penalty, of course the body would have the smaller effect

[rancid cipher]

The armor does offer more, it's just that the penalty of the armor itself is also removed which makes the gap small.

Yeah

[atomic halo]

yeah

[rancid cipher]

Interesting that it's hidden.

Odd choice.

[atomic halo]

the point of the implicit is to cancel out the penalty (which it doesnt really do, just almost does)

[rancid cipher]

Are there any other hidden stat altering attributes like this?

[atomic halo]

not really

[rancid cipher]

kk

Appreciate your time friend.

[atomic halo]

happy to help

[weak bridge]

I have a silly question
would using call of the brotherhood on a sorc be a feasible way to rack up more cold damage, due to lightning dmg having higher rolls

I don't have a pob at hand so I'm trying to theorycraft
but I also wonder that this has been a meta already?

[atomic halo]

you can do that, sure

you can also use three dragons to achieve a similar result to freeze with lightning

[weak bridge]

but will things like % lightning dmg per int make sense

[urban vessel]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/hf2ce01h
any idea how to improve the build so that i can tackle simulacrum?

Or ig what the strat for simul is, always ded on wave 11

[atomic halo]

no, they won't apply

[weak bridge]

Or would I need to only spec %cold

[atomic halo]

so generally, cold damage is a bit more difficult to scale as such modifiers would not work at all

[atomic halo]

yeah

[weak bridge]

Aw so it's like, the conversion is applied before bonuses

[atomic halo]

correct

[weak bridge]

Making your lightning dmg 0

[atomic halo]

following flat damage, before inc./more

so inc. lightning would just look at a bunch of cold damage and do nothing

[weak bridge]

Worrying, but understandable

Would the inverse work then

Cold to light

[atomic halo]

in what way

[weak bridge]

Though no point then, not much cold dmg dealers...

looking into it, it does seem like a suboptimal endgame build nonetheless, even without dream frags budget

cold to lightning might be fun with comets tho

and by fun I mean enjoyable build that doesn't attempt to minmax

[marble basin]

does this node actually work with herald of plague? I can't tell any damage difference

[inland nebula]

You need the herald up here iirc

Maybe im wrong

[odd charm]

Is there a way to convert cold dmg and fire fire dmg to lightning dmg?

[atomic halo]

conversion is one step

except skill conversion, which comes first

wait are you asking for them at the same time or independantly

[odd charm]

Same time if possible

[atomic halo]

thst would only be possible if a skill gem or support had the cold -> fire and a modifier on gear/tree had fire->lightning

but i checked trade

neither cold-> fire nor fire-> lightning exist

painter's servant technically counts for both

although not fully

[odd charm]

That’s a skill gem?

[atomic halo]

unique gloves

[odd charm]

Ahh ok, you said there’s nodes I can use to convert individually fire to lightning cold to lightning.

[atomic halo]

there's cold to lightning, whisper of the brotherhood

but cold->fire and fire-> lightning do not exist

[odd charm]

Ahh ok

Is there physical to lightning then

[atomic halo]

on skill gems, yes

not on item/modifiers

[odd charm]

I’m just trying to understand better how these guys run 500k dps. That’s the reason for all the questions. I’m new to Poe if u couldn’t tell

So I appreciate all the advise you’ve given

[atomic halo]

convert doesnt do too much for increasing dps

as you can't double dip or anything like that

[distant tendon]

Is this real

[atomic halo]

i'd say it's more likely to be real than to be edited

[distant tendon]

I feel that number looks fake it’s too high

[odd charm]

Bro wtf

3m!!!

[distant tendon]

My friend just asked me to build it for him

I’m like that’s fake my g

[odd charm]

The most I’ve seen is 500k. My friend showed me his dps from a purchased account

[uncut bay]

obviously this is the last stage of sigil of power, inside mana tempest

and after triggering all the other buffs

but even then it seems crazy

[uncut bay]

500k without buffs?

[atomic halo]

purchased account??

[uncut bay]

oh no

[odd charm]

Ya he said he paid 250$ for it

[uncut bay]

so is this with or without buffs?

[odd charm]

Idk tbh

[uncut bay]

I am just curious what the ceiling is for the dps

and whether gemling has a higher ceiling

[odd charm]

He wasn’t doing anything when he showed me

[uncut bay]

I see

[odd charm]

So say I have 67k physical dps. If I convert physical dmg to lighting is it point to point or just a percent total?

[uncut bay]

if it says "convert 40% of physical damage to lightning" then 40% of your physical damage becomes lightning damage

[atomic halo]

we can't say because we dont know what your modifiers are

stuff like inc. global physical damage will not affect the lightning damage

so you may lose damage

or if you have inc. ele / inc. lightning, you may gain damage

in the absence of any modifiers, then it will just be 1-1

[odd charm]

Ok thx guys

[tribal hound]

can i wear more than 1 Against the Darkness
Time-Lost Diamond ?

[atomic halo]

no

Limit: 1

[haughty wadi]

any mantra of destruction enjoyere

never see people using it, any reason for that?

[fringe lagoon]

You can get 500k without buffs, more if you consider lightning rod

With buffs maybe 1.5M?

[ashen cargo]

Where can I go to see a list of mods, with their max tiers and what item level is required for those tiers?

[fringe lagoon]

https://www.craftofexile.com/?game=poe2

[atomic halo]

also poe2db.tw

[ashen cargo]

Thank you guys

[restive mortar]

best implicit for a caster amulet?

int or mana regen?

or spirit?

[winter vortex]

do I just ignore chaos resistance with Chaos inoculation?

[runic field]

What's the best class to use Astramentis on?

[winter vortex]

I tried it on Monk tri-attribute. Maybe works well with any 3-attribute build

[runic field]

How's the survivability on the monk? Also what other classes do tri attribute?

[static torrent]

You are completely immune to Chaos damage with CI, so yes, you are able to ignore it.

[winter vortex]

Itried a bunch of builds.. it is "mostly" kill or be killed

[subtle flax]

got probably a dumb question from a newish player. been googling and i must be missing something. Ivl 52 monk. trying to get tempest flurry to build power charges. i have combat frenzy with resonance and electrocute on tempest flurry.

[ember parrot]

Mercenary (Gemling Legionaire) sometimes is played as a tri-attribute stacker.

[ember parrot]

You manage to electocute before killing the mobs?

Also, charges have no inherent effect and only are used for skills as resources and some fringe uniques that interact with them.

Also can consider https://pathofexile2.wiki.fextralife.com/Kitoko's+Current+Jewelled+Gloves

[subtle flax]

my brother in law has a monk and i watched him use tempest flurry and then just clear the entire screen with charged staff but he doesnt remember how he was building charges with tempest flurry, sorry for sounding dumb.

[hybrid ocean]

Most likely resonance and hunting frenzy

[floral helm]

Can anybody explain to me, what should the base elemental resistances be without any gear equipped?

I went back to work on another of my characters and for the life of me I can't figure out why all of these are just super negative... Because I could have sworn they should be at zero without anything equipped.

[unique sandal]

-60 for 6 acts

[leaden salmon]

The farther you progress in the game the more negative res you get

[unique sandal]

the two are -50 because side quests grant +10

and idk why you have 60 chaos res, maybe just stacked it?

[dawn spire]

I think you're actually missing some side quests

[dawn spire]

You don't lose chaos res from acts

Just ele res

[unique sandal]

I think they should be -50 for all elemental

[unique sandal]

true

fire should be blackjaw btw

hmm wait we should be -40 after 6 acts right? They all give 2x +10 % res

[dawn spire]

You should actually have - 40% to all because you get 20% cold from the cold witch in clearfell, 20% fire from black jaw, and 20% lightning from the sisters in spires

So you missed a TON of free resists

10% for each one, but repeated in normal and cruel

[orchid helm]

I have a question, does shocked ground I create benefit from modifiers to shock magnitude?

[floral helm]

Yeah this was my first character and I just kind of blew through things on her so I'll go back and do those I just I didn't know it went into the negatives the farther you got into the game

[dawn spire]

Yes

[orchid helm]

Good, thank god

[unique sandal]

by default shocked ground was slightly lower base shock magnitude than normal shock iirc

maybe 20 vs 15?

[dawn spire]

Look at the map legend in the top left to see what icons represent permanent bonuses. Then hunt down all the ones you missed

[lusty burrow]

ive just unlocked level 25 on my monk, ive got 6 ex where can i find some help on what to buy to help build

im building ice monk rn

[dawn spire]

Nope, it's 20% default

[floral helm]

Okay thank you very much!

[echo crag]

is it possible for ailments to apply other ailments? e.g poison also applying chill or is that not possible

[spark arch]

Hey guys so I've been reading a lot online that Armour is pretty much useless, is there a skill that can convert #% of Armour to anything lol?

[craggy lava]

The description video says that hexblast removes multiple curses at once, detonating them.

Does that mean the damage of hexblast is doubled due to two proc's or is it only the 1x damage for it detonating?

[dawn spire]

Not without some weird supports or uniques, I imagine. In poe1 there was a unique that makes it so enemies you poison are also chilled. Idk of anything like that in poe2 off the top of my head

[dawn spire]

Not to my knowledge. You can turn evasion to armor, es to mana, but can't do anything with armor as far as I'm aware

[harsh sorrel]

Not sure if there's a channel for "unofficial tools" like Path of Building so sorry if I'm not suppose to ask here, but I'm new to the tool and curious if anyone knows which build/fork is the "proper" Path of Building PoE2 build/fork?

[dawn spire]

Use the link in #other-news

Oh, that's the github

Are you looking at the community fork? That's the one you should be using

[craggy lava]

https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding-PoE2/releases

This one

[craggy lava]

Quick bump

[tacit lichen]

Does increased spell damage scale archmage or other damage gain conversions? All increases calculate after the conversions, but do the gain conversions modify the spell dmg itself, or does it just become extra added damage?

[inland nebula]

https://pobb.in/kXVeDJxVSVM9
Everything is WIP, very very much so, but any suggestions?
(All gear, and jewels are relative placeholders)
(I'm trying to build something with leech, that isn't spark, temporalis, trampletoe, hexblast, or other stuff I find boring)

[waxen jewel]

How can I chill myself

It's not easy to deal cold damage to self at least

Chaos, fire, and physical are easy

Goal: combine many bad things to make one of them decent

[inland nebula]

I can only think of this..? I dont think curses can chill though
Chilled ground on Maps would give you a speed boost ig

[waxen jewel]

Yeah that was my first idea too lmao. But yeah they can't AFAIK

But I found a way

100% ignite with flame wall, which make's me take 100 Fire Damage, which then get's converted to 33 + 5 = 38 cold damage which then starts to build up a nice action speed buff!

Problem is IDK if "Take" is convertable, or does it have to be "Deal"

Or nevermind. Way easier to just play infernalist + pyromantic pack for self damage

So literally just:

Hmm, honestly that's easy enough it could be decent

With Barrier Invocation and infinite comets or whatever

[static plinth]

This doesnt work anyway

[static plinth]

Neither does this

[waxen jewel]

Though I'm not that Pyromantic Pact works with conversion because https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Receiving_damage says conversion happens before "Take damage as [type]"

[static plinth]

You arent dealing the damage yourself, you need damage taken as cold which doesnt exist yet

Currently its impossible to enable Sierran Inheritance afaik

Beyond self-curse with frostbite and hoping enemies deal cold damage

[waxen jewel]

HMM, I'm confused what is the problem with the second one

[static plinth]

Conversion affects damage you deal

Pyromantic Pact isnt damage you deal, its damage you take

[waxen jewel]

Okay there's such distinction

[static plinth]

See Altered Flesh in Infernalist for an example of the latter

In 1 self-chill was enabled with either The Fulcrum (which reflected chills you inflict back to you) or Call of The Void (Which enabled all damage taken to Chill) combined with a skill that hurt you

[lapis condor]

anyone willing to look of my gear and stuff and and help me figure out how to get blink in the build aka get 58 more spsirt without killing my dps or bank?

[waxen jewel]

Ohh right it make sense now. Conversion is solely the attacker's business. And pyromantic pack is not "attacking" like normal, but instead we go straight to receiving damage

With weapon swap

And you get free int that way too

[lapis condor]

talkign to me wnbeser?

[waxen jewel]

Yes

I've done it for 90 levels

[lapis condor]

how often do you blink?

[waxen jewel]

1.3 seconds

Now that I just got the shield

[static plinth]

Turn off one of your other spirit skills in your weapon swap?

[waxen jewel]

I press the raise shield skill which changes my weapon set, but the 0.25 delay from weapon set change get's canceled by evade (because evade can cancel anything), thus negating half of the downside of weapon swap completely

And allows you to play cast speed gear and such (I play curses too on that weapon set)

[lapis condor]

do you use a staff for bossing as well?

[waxen jewel]

And it's also way easier to press skill and dodge roll than by pressing the manual weapon set switch button

No, I'm deadeye lighting arrow

I just want to get to places

[lapis condor]

how do you get blink for free then?

[lapis condor]

fucking same

[waxen jewel]

Because the reserved skills, go off when you switch weapon set

[static plinth]

They use the +50 spirit shield i presume

Or that

[waxen jewel]

You can assign them on only 1 weapon set

[static plinth]

I have my blasphemy tied to weapon set 1 so i can swap and use blink but i only use it occasionally

[waxen jewel]

You can have 2 times your spirit of different reserve skills, but not at the same time

Every classs can

[lapis condor]

so i have PBKAB issue...

problem between keyboard and brain...

[waxen jewel]

Ohh

[lapis condor]

which shield are you using? oaksworn or Crest of Ardura?

[waxen jewel]

The whole raise shield thing is completely optional btw

But I recommend to use a skill to swap weapon

Because manual weapon swap action is not bufferable

And it's very hard to do it if getting stunlocked

And if you are blinking anyways, you can cancel the skil that swapped anyways so there's no loss

In fact, this helps me keep tailwind stacks up because for whatever reason, the half cast canceled spell counts as a cast for Tailwind

[lapis condor]

ok looks like i need to figure out how to make a second weapon set

[waxen jewel]

Ohh. And here I'm sharing the deepest secrets of blink-swapping lolz

[lapis condor]

lol i can google some 😄

do you just need 1 point for a second weapons set?

[waxen jewel]

So there's the passive tree part which is optional (but useful at least later on), and then there's the fact that you always have 2 weapon sets available

There's roman numeral on top of your weapon and offhand that tells you which weapon set you are on

[lapis condor]

yea but it is red and one let me pick because i dont have enough spirt i think

nevemrind

[waxen jewel]

Okay follow my instructions please

[lapis condor]

i got it 😄

[waxen jewel]

So now you need to assign your skills to specific weapon sets.

1. Press G
2. Press the arrow on right of the skill to open more info

Then on the new window, look at the bottom right part

Assign those skills you want in your main setup to weapon set I, by unchecking t he checkbox below "II"

[lapis condor]

ok so the issue is that i have two shields

[waxen jewel]

They will automatically get turned on and off as you swap weapons

[lapis condor]

i did it!

thank you internet friend!

[waxen jewel]

NP

I love sharing my weapon-swap blink tech

[lapis condor]

do you use any support gems on blink?

[waxen jewel]

Faster casting (I'm an attack build so I don't need that elsewhere) and then cooldown reduction

I also use for fun (IDK if it has ever done anything) the one that makes your stun threshold 200% higher while using the skill

[lapis condor]

OMG YOUVE UTTERLY CHANGED MY LIFE

[waxen jewel]

Remember to level up the blink because it not only increases the distance, but reduces the cooldown

[lapis condor]

yea its lvl 21

[waxen jewel]

As far as your intelligence allows of course, but you can cheat a bit, if your weapon set 2 has more intelligence on the gear

Right

I've always wanted to get arcane surge to work with it (my build could use the mana regen), but I can't find a way to make it cost mana lol

[lapis condor]

megolmaniac gem?

[waxen jewel]

I mean arcane surge, the support gem

[lapis condor]

oh

[waxen jewel]

Which gives arcane surge once you spend 100% mana with the supported skill

Yeah, it's bit stupid naming

[lapis condor]

what is this from?

[pearl sluice]

Me

[lapis condor]

i mean what website

[pearl sluice]

My personal build from pob2

https://tenor.com/view/vaal-vaal-orb-poe-2-poe2-corrupt-gif-11706354413714962146

[lapis condor]

lol well thank you for answering my question even if indirectly

[pearl sluice]

Well I was directing my answer to Genda

It's a no crit no sheild

All dmg

Cast Rate: 3.67  
Hit DPS: 365,584.6  
Mana Cost: 321  
Mana Cost per second: 1,178.53  

Strength: 40  
Dexterity: 27  
Intelligence: 252  

Effective Hit Pool: 5,924  
Phys Max-Hit: 6,030  
Fire Max-Hit: 24,120  
Cold Max-Hit: 25,125  
Lightning Max-Hit: 25,125  
Chaos Max-Hit: 6,700  

Total Life: 1,629  
%Inc Life: 8%  
Life Regen: 3.9  

Total Mana: 4,401  
%Inc Mana from Tree: 20%  
Mana Regen: 1,164.3  

Total Spirit: 143  
Unreserved Spirit: 3  
Unreserved Spirit: 2%  

Evasion rating: 327  

Phys. Damage Reduction: 0%  

Fire Resistance: 75% (+16%)  
Cold Resistance: 75% (+27%)  
Lightning Resistance: 75% (+15%)  
Chaos Resistance: 10%  

Movement Speed Modifier: +31.0%  

Full DPS: 8,364,448.9  
22x Spark: 8,042,861  
2x Orb of Storms: 219,213  
Doom Blast: 102,200  
Full Decay DPS: 175```

[lapis condor]

is there a way to pull the info in or is only by doing it manually?

[pearl sluice]

Manual

You can ctrl c and ctrl v the gear

So armor you ctrl c in game, and on pob2 you ctrl v in the CUSTOM ITEM

In the pop up.window

[lapis condor]

ok thanks!

[pearl sluice]

Like this is a copy of my.wep

Ctrl c / v

[waxen jewel]

I'm so sad :( This spider cyborg fucker somehow instakilled my. RIP my first citadel

[sonic blade]

Why am I having such a hard time finding against the darkness with extra cold damage?

[fringe lagoon]

Isn't pob 2 dmg bugged? It does not match the one in game, even when adjusting for miscalculated cast speed

[sonic blade]

Found them finally. Searching for ATD is awful

[waxen jewel]

Are you sure the jewel can even roll any arbitrary notables_

[fringe lagoon]

I have like 530k spark dmg unbuffed in game and 300k or so on pob

[waxen jewel]

But, if you are talking about the monk starting, area node, no wonder, I bet it's very sought after

[quartz abyss]

How do you import your current build into Path of building?

[distant solar]

Manually

[distant solar]

Is that with boss set to pinnacle or none in enemy stats in config?

[distant solar]

You can copy paste items from in game right into PoB as someone just described above. Skill tree is pretty fast and you can click lengths of nodes and it will allocate shortest path to that point so you can do segments and not each node one by one

[quartz abyss]

thanks i was just doing nodes 1 by one lol

[errant wyvern]

quick pob2 question, does anyone know how to undo this

[junior anvil]

why doesn't poison damage go up with chaos damage nodes?

[buoyant cargo]

hello is someone here a deadeye main

[latent dawn]

Poison is based on its HIT - if your HIT is only physical, it cant add "increased chaos damage"

if you had a Chaos Hit to deal the poison, then +chaos dmg would work

[junior anvil]

I see! That helps thank you. There isn't much chaos hit damage right? Hand of Chayula?

Getting augment like extra chaos on hit or something like that

But still most of the damage would be based on the physical hit damage of a bow, say?

[latent dawn]

there's a chaos damage bow (cultist) but ive never used it to test, there's also chaos spells that I think could poison too if you got chance to poison on hit?

Yea, high phys bow and other increases to Attack Damage or Physical Damage for Gas Arrow or whatever you're using

[late fiber]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/archmage-spark-stormweaver-build-guide

thoughs on this before i do it?

[junior anvil]

Thank you!

[digital mason]

Is there a spider build?

[shut vigil]

What item should I chance orb in the hopes of getting more spirit?

[jade wigeon]

new player trying out cold spell sorceress. How does the interaction between cold snap and frostbolt work if frostbolt has scattershot? The cold snap seems to detonate multiple frostbolt projectiles at once, but does the damage effectively triple?

[tough crow]

does Rapid shot consume a Power/frenzy charge for every shot or just once when you start shooting if supported by potential/ferocity?

[old ermine]

I'm trying to decide between a poision concoction pathfinder or a LA deadeye. Which one is better overall?

[tough crow]

my build using poison concotction itself sucks but just the decompose(corpswade) boots and lowest level contagion make clearing farily easy. i only use the concoction to kill the initial enemy or rares

its certinaly a cheaper option gear wise

[pearl sluice]

click the skill numbers at the top xxx/xxx

[hybrid ocean]

^

High end late game LA gets quite expensive

Pconc afaik is mostly just getting projectile levels on absolutely anything that can, the most expensive thing probably being a high rolled corrupted widowhail and quiver effect jewels

Basic breakpoint is 220% widowhail, but every 50% above that from the bow & jewels is another level

[native cargo]

help i bought the wrong size, i want to target wild storm and exposed to the storm, what size do i wear? lol

[latent dawn]

some websites have passive tree simulations to test those out

and from what I checked, no size fits both of those - one has to be picked through the branch, one can be on the ring

[timid zenith]

is the 18% attack speed pillar that much better than 15% to warrant the price increase

[latent dawn]

you can get it from a Medium-Large Ring from the jewel socket to the bottom-left ish of those 2 Storm nodes

[native cargo]

thnks bro, saw the site planner too! ill try this path

[latent dawn]

make sure taking such a path actually saves you skill points otherwise there's no point :p

[formal violet]

Rule 6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See #trading for alternatives.

[floral helm]

Mb

[distant solar]

if you have your POB setup, you can see how much of an attack speed or damage increase it is and decide if the cost difference is worthwhile to you. it shows 2.5% dps increase for me but I'd rather save for jewel upgrades

[timid zenith]

i just managed to roll an 8% so deciding wether to sell or keep

[atomic halo]

18% should always be 2.6% more attack speed than 15%

i went for a 7% personally, for 1 div

with 8% at 8 div you're paying 7 div for 0.85% dps

[native cargo]

i think ill use the massive ring on the 12oclock jewel node instead

[reef zinc]

i've high rolled during acts a biggest cultistbow in my entire life with +proj spells, trippleflat and attackspeed, never seen such epic dps before
so, try a bit of testing and never trust anyone in community untill u see things by urself, i've heard so much bad stuff about this bow before :"D

[reef zinc]

LA braindead leveling, but depends on gear, so check vendors every lvlup. Poison requires some gear aswell, atleast widowhail and few jewels

[sonic pollen]

anyone know why my meditate isnt working

[vast veldt]

are you holding the skill?

[sonic pollen]

ya and im not already maxed shield

[vast veldt]

do you have that passive that recharges life and flasks give shield?

[sonic pollen]

yup thats exactly what it was thank you

[marble basin]

you cant put comet on cast on crit?

nevermind

[hollow bronze]

somebody able to help me fix my build i got 6D to spend

[marble basin]

I cant use it with my staff for some reason, only my wand

[hushed nacelle]

What support gems should I use for lightning arrow starting out on a new character>?

[open hollow]

anyone uses POB2? is Megalomaniac not really supported yet?

[distant solar]

you can just paste a megalomaniac from trade or that you own into the builder and edit the notables

Megalomaniac
Diamond
Item Level: 82
Limited to: 1
Implicits: 2
{enchant}Allocates Heavy Frost
{enchant}Allocates Deep Trance
Corrupted

[inland nebula]

https://pobb.in/kXVeDJxVSVM9
Everything is WIP, very very much so, but any suggestions? (Any and all suggestions and critiscm welcome, first build.)
(All gear, and jewels are relative placeholders)
(I'm trying to build something with leech, that isn't spark, temporalis, trampletoe, hexblast, or other stuff I find boring)
I might possibly go wand + sceptre (for spirit) and do duo CoC or CoC + cast on Minion death (raging spirits) possibly? I dont know

[grim storm]

do passive skills effect duration of curses? essence drain and contagion?

[velvet basin]

for a level 84 are these stats wack or nah

idk what i can do atm to get more dps

[ember parrot]

Fyi you can use Augmentations on Waystones if you didn't know.

[ember parrot]

• Fix lightning resist.
• Try to fix chaos resist but lower prio.
• Try to get some Stats via Gear, str gives HP (useful even when you plan to go CI due to Ghostwrithe).

[vast veldt]

^ and ES i think that rag you're wearing is full evasion body armour, hybrid is nice since you're not running acrobatics

[ember parrot]

Also breach rings are overvalued when it comes to defensive rings, elemental rings with same element + all elemental suffix are better, even with 30 less quality.

[vast veldt]

iirc those two nodes were crit hit chance that might be valuable for you

[ember parrot]

For comparision, my character's stats at level 80

And also a fire defensive ring to show what i mean with ele resist rings

Cause there, quality boosts the Implicit (24% to 26%) plus both Resist Suffixes (15% to 18% and 28% to 32%)

And for those wondering why i overcap: Map modifiers and/or Ultimatum Proofing

-35% Resist curse is more bearable when you are over 35% over cap

Also from one monk to another: Gathering Storm + Lightning Exposure + Strip Away + Overcharge

Drop shocking ground for +35% increased damage taken for enemies that also reduces their LLightning resistance by 26%

[grand nebula]

How do you get lvl 40 skills?

[ember parrot]

Max is somewhere in the 30s.

20 base + 1 via corrupt + 3 via armor + 3 via necklace + 7 via Weapon + 3 Prism of Belief + 1 via Gemling

[grand nebula]

Currently 19 gem and 10 from modifiers. Have plus 2 minion skills on helm, both weapons +3 and +4,