2┃build-planning

[waxen jewel]

IDK wtf I'm talking about. I'm here thinking about Time Snap resetting itself with second wind

[vale pewter]

Do builds ever get rid of basic attack on left click? The max roll build I’m using has 9/10 so I’m assuming the last slot is for basic

[lavish kayak]

yeah i think that would be a huge oversight lol

[waxen jewel]

Yeah, but it wouldn't make any sense, as it doesn't reset itself without charges; why would it with charges

So I'm just schizoing

[marsh jasper]

Should i focus upgrading fire resistance first or the chaos one?

[waxen jewel]

Whatever is convinient. Fire resist is way more bang for buck though

Because resistances are better per point nearer the max they are

Though idk if that matters if you are alive through fire damage so there's that argument

[amber wharf]

An infernalist witch just bought a shield from me. Im confused as to why. Wouldn't blink be better for a movement skill than shield charge?

[pastel sapphire]

How much cold dmg do I need to freeze?

[marsh jasper]

okii thank you bro I was thinking about my last rune slot to use either for fire or chaos

[carmine sandal]

might be using it for block chance

[waxen jewel]

There's no fixed number. It depends on enemy ailment threshold (it's some % of the enemys max hp). You can increase this with +#% Increased freeze buildup

[amber wharf]

Woudl block chance be better than using a focus?

[carmine sandal]

yep, if they're also specing into it on the tree, just adds another defensive layer

[waxen jewel]

In my experience through the campaign, the freeze thresshold seems to be about the same for each enemy rarity in practise

Focuses have way better modifiers

[pastel sapphire]

Ok thanks I’m following a build and don’t see ice herald in my buffs on the top left so idk

It’s also activated

[carmine sandal]

if they're plowing thru what ever content they're doing, they dont need to one shot rares even harder

[waxen jewel]

Well there are passive nodes that increase freeze buildup and there's a support gem

Ice herald is completely separate thing

That makes frozen enemies shatter (explode) for high% of your attack damage

[vast folio]

boys, why do people play with 2 bell skills?

[grave spire]

Is there an Infernalist build that uses bow?

[waxen jewel]

2 bell skills? I know only one Tempest Bell

[waxen jewel]

You can be the first one

[static plinth]

Bells proc eachother but have a Limit of 1, instead of using Overabundance they just use 2 of them

Im pretty sure at least or thats all bullshit

[grave spire]

I didn’t think so. Is there a class hat uses the Deaths Harp build?

[vast folio]

the guy im looking at uses overbundance on one

[static plinth]

Triple bell ig

[static plinth]

Technically EDC can use weapon swap bow

But main hand is always wand+focus

[waxen jewel]

For what?

[static plinth]

Vine Arrow

Doesnt deal much damage but feeds Dark Effigy

[near timber]

is there an easy way to mark multiple enemies around you? any mark is fine

[static plinth]

If its like 1 you can only have 1 between all enemies

If not, try Hand of Chayula

[waxen jewel]

I don't know of easy ways, but you can with meta gems "Cast on [condition]"

[upbeat crow]

why dont i see crit hit chance for my skills even tho i have a wand that gives me crit?

[waxen jewel]

I guess you could get massive aoe on hand of chayula

Also omg... I have forgone leveling my chayula because I thought it only increases the chaos damage...

[static plinth]

I ended up dropping it because the weapon swap time gave me conniptions

[rustic hill]

I’m looking to upgrade to the torment staff but wanna make sure it’s actually an upgrade, would you say so?

The ghoul is current

[static plinth]

Once you put runes in it 100%

Idk if its a div worth of an upgrade though

[rustic hill]

Hmm yeah fair enough

[static plinth]

Feel like you could probably find better

[rustic hill]

Would you prioritise phys or ele runes?

[static plinth]

What skill are you using?

[rustic hill]

Ice strike charge staff

[static plinth]

Actually scratch that ele weapon runes suck

[waxen jewel]

Phys stacks worse with high tier mod, but is still better

They should make'socketables craftable / have item level in 1.0

Really awkward right now with 0 scaling

[rustic hill]

Should I be prioritising the highest phys DPS then?

[amber wharf]

When you use your passive tree points for your 2nd weapon, do you have to start from your initial point or can you branch off from where your current build any point

[waxen jewel]

You need to start from a common point

A point where you have a regular passive skill node allocated

or another point of that weapon set of course

[still rock]

ill look in a sec im finishing dinner

[amber wharf]

Ok and do you only get 24? or is that number showing incorrect?

[still rock]

sounds dumb tho

lmao

in a good way

im the king of hipster builds

[amber wharf]

Ok and do you only get 24? or is that number showing incorrect?

[still rock]

i have more failed shitty builds in my resume than i ever should have

[waxen jewel]

Doesn't rage have inherent cooldown of max 1 stack per 0.5s

[still rock]

i think the worst one i ever theorycrafted was galvanic arrow quill rain poison

had to give up in white maps

[waxen jewel]

Wtf is +Arrow Speed anyways?

Is it multiplicative with +%incresed projectile speed?

[still rock]

additive if increased

just like skill speed and attack speed

but arrow speed is specifically for arrows

not all projectiles

[static plinth]

Mine was probably Cyclone of Tumult Voidforge Warden

Or Starforge i forgor

[waxen jewel]

Yeah, makes sense. Like +%increased warcry speed is additive with +%increased skill speed kind of deal

[proper mauve]

Anyone that uses Raxx monk build know why I die when shield is full?

I have 1 HP and 3k shield and ill die with full shield

[static plinth]

Is the death message "Committed suicide"

[proper mauve]

Yes

[static plinth]

Change your mana flask

[proper mauve]

ohh dang. thanks!

You are awesome

[static plinth]

3 billion CI players dead to mana flasks

[proper mauve]

lol. No one in game could tell me.

[scarlet lodge]

that's a good staff?

[static plinth]

Life per enemy hit gonna make me cry but otherwise yeah

[lilac hinge]

Ignoring cost what is currently the most op build that is mostl likely not going to get smited tomorrow

[foggy bloom]

which piece/effect would result in more damage?

[half goblet]

Left

[plush crypt]

does chrono actually have any synergies with any skill gems besides hammer

[brave mirage]

This is probably not the right place to ask but has someone found a good way to search the trade site for against the darkness timelost jewels with specific mods?

[static plinth]

100% conversion just rounds to 100%

[static plinth]

My bet would probably be on Arsonists? Spark and anything with HOWA is probably going to get evaporated if i had to guess

[neat bison]

Arsonists are strong but not like insane

So probably good call

[static plinth]

Yeah they've faded into the background

[lilac hinge]

Personally I don't think they will nerf howa but what is arsonist?

[static plinth]

Skeletal Arsonists

Minion build

[lilac hinge]

Anything else spark and minion builds are to boring for me

[static plinth]

Not off the top of my head

[foggy bloom]

is that how the game mechanics work in poe2? or did you pull that from poe1?

[slim hawk]

anyone selling Hand of Wisdom and Action Furtive Wraps ?

[static plinth]

Both

Otherwise 500% conversion or some stupid build would be giga popular

[lilac hinge]

A lot of ppl on the trade site

[slim hawk]

no ones answering

[median kraken]

Just check trade site, trading in this game isn't great but it's not so bad you need to use Discord to buy a unique

[static plinth]

Go for higher prices

[slim hawk]

only hjave 1 div xD

[median kraken]

Are you only trying to buy the cheapest ones?

[slim hawk]

yeah.T_T

[median kraken]

Then you probably can't afford a HOWA

[slim hawk]

._.

[static plinth]

Lower ones are assholes baiting people to list HOWAs cheaper

[median kraken]

Or a HOWA build for that matter, since stat stacking gear isn't cheap

[tawny blade]

Can you have multiple blasphemys running at the same time?

[slim hawk]

anyone can gift me a devine.

[median kraken]

You can, you can even put multiple curses in the same blasphemy. But you do need to raise your curse limit with Whispers of Doom and/or a Doedre's Damning for it to work

[tawny blade]

@median kraken thank you

[median kraken]

I'm gonna be honest: if you're begging for a divine in Discord, you probably shouldn't be trying to put together a stat stacking build.

[atomic halo]

real

[slim hawk]

lol

[quartz ermine]

Guys what would be best jewel for a gas grenade early cruel build?

[tawny blade]

Considering chrono with 1 blasphemy being all slow and temporal chains then another with stuff like enfeeble and something else. Thinking if i can get whispers and doedre getting 3 curses perma spam

Thanks for clarity @median kraken

[median kraken]

You'll also need 180 spirit to do that

[tawny blade]

Yeah i think my build will be as much spirit equipment as possible

[median kraken]

It might be nice but that's a lot of investment

[tawny blade]

Maybe using a scepter as thats an easy 100+

Might stuggle for dps using a ton of spirit equipment tho so who knows

[median kraken]

Scepter's the easiest way to get extra spirit but is a pretty big sacrifice since it doesn't have a lot of mods that are good for non-minion builds and shields or focuses can be really good. Alpha's Howl can also give a ton of spirit and actually synergizes with Chrono slow but takes a lot of dex

[grave spire]

Thanks! I think this is what is happening because I’ve had 3 of these death harp bows drop and each one was bought by an Infernalist.

[median kraken]

Chest and Amulet are the slots where you can get the most spirit without any major sacrifices but good spirit gear in those slots can be expensive. Just 80 spirit between the two slots shouldn't be too bad but it'll be harder if you want other buffs too besides triple blasphemy

[tawny blade]

@median kraken thanks for putting me onto alphas howl, its increases prescenc3 radius which could up the range for chrono slow too

[buoyant dawn]

Anyone playing a Gemling Mercenary following Lazy Exile's guide?

[median kraken]

Yeah it's good for that build, just a pain to get that much dex for most caster builds

[jaunty reef]

is there a way to see what kind of stats a skill will have at later levels? ie. skill is lvl 13 but want to see what it would look like at lvl20

[near timber]

does arrow speed affect this?

[jaunty reef]

not sure but you can test if you get it and then increase something that just says arrow speed and looking if your dps increase

which you can see in the skill menu next to all the skills

[rich oasis]

It shouldn't.

[jaunty reef]

i feel like arrows would count as projectiles

[vale pewter]

Can’t cast tempest flurry anymore, idk why

Also can’t find combat frenzy on the skill gem list

[near timber]

it's a spirit

[vale pewter]

Oh ok gotcha

[near timber]

will know the answer after i got 7 more levels

[open marten]

does anybody have a Polcirklen Sapphire Ring for trade for 1 Exalted?

[vale pewter]

Isn’t rage supposed to only need 5 str? For some reason mine randomly changed to needing 10

[near timber]

i think the cap increases by 5 per str support gem

[vale pewter]

The only other support gem is a dex one, I mean I will use another str gem eventually

But rn it’s just a dex and str gem

[vast plaza]

do "exposure" support gems like lightning exposure work on skills that create shocked ground/chill ground? The grounds themselves don't do any damage so I assume that they won't work?

[unborn raven]

For Jewels, how would i calculate if damage to crossbows vs. lightning damage would benefit more DPS?
am full lightning build

[near timber]

buy two cheap ones with the strongest effect of each and compare their dps while being in ur skill tree

[haughty dove]

Hell I have a question I have 8649 Energy Sheld would 36% make difference in surivability

[covert fossil]

Well 8649 x .36 is

[celest oxide]

Are there any strong warrior builds or is class a meme rn

[covert fossil]

Can check in the warrior threads in #1308715058716610580

But it seems pretty decent

[alpine quiver]

Question
Which version of invoker ice strike is better
Pure cold damage or
Lightning + plus cold

Level 64 rn

[thin basin]

Couture of Crimson + Fast Metabolism

hows this

for life

u can overflow life from leech

and it wont get remove when its full so perma leechd

[haughty dove]

I meant would 36 % block make in difference in surivablity if Have 8649 Energy sheild

[long flame]

If I were to try and create a spellblade build would it be viable and what class would I lean towards

[thin basin]

invoker monk

[crude lagoon]

quick question. Im trying to get the right rolls on my armour, and Id like more strength but. str seems to only roll on str required armour which means it has the Armour stat. Is it useless?

I'm a sorc, but I'm in need to a reative decent str stat

just need to know is armour really is useless

[thin basin]

get it on your accessories or tree

[crude lagoon]

understood

they plan on fixing that?

thats a decent protion of the gear out there

[thin basin]

yes str on str gear dex on dex so and so

[still rock]

i prefer it personally, lessens the mod pool

now if only we can somehow convince ggg to get rid of light radius and thorns

[still rock]

im playing a titan flameblaster thats going pretty smooth

chiming staff sigil swap tech kinda necessary for t16 and pinnacle bossing but its mostly seamless otherwise

[keen roost]

i have a weapon that give me level three skel minions but i get two how does that work and how do i get more with out the skill gem for it running?

[jaunty reef]

anyone know how many skill levels its possible to get from items?

[neat bison]

The sceptre only gives 2 free skelly warriors, the level only makes them stronger

[keen roost]

ok thank you

[remote ravine]

Looking to get into this game what’s the best class/build???

[raw rampart]

Bonsoir Ya pas un fr chaud en build qui peut m'aider ?

[hallow mantle]

Guys ! I new in the game , i,m LV 75 and i need help tô improve my game in end game
Actually i make Key tier 4 , but i have a big problem with my build and my mana regen ,

I use a guide site maxroll build sorcerer stormweaver!

thanks all

[blissful stratus]

Try turning off Archmage for a while and see if you can still do your waystones easily, so that you can farm up more mana nodes and such on the Passive tree, get more mana on your items, etc. maybe get a weapon swap with a mana drain weapon. You can also choose to not use things like arcane tempest until you can sustain it

as well as make sure you are using the strongest flask you can!

[thin basin]

highest ive seen is 18, maybe you can get 19 somewhere

ive also seen some itemlevel 100 items but not sure where theyre from

[hallow mantle]

Which is the best I can buy?

[blissful stratus]

Buy what exactly? As for more help, if this is the guide you are using, then it has a "gearing" section to tell you what is most important in each slot to look for when buying

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/spark-archmage-stormweaver-leveling-guide#faq-header

and if that guide doesnt have enough, this one is the "endgame" advice version https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/spark-lightning-conduit-stormweaver#gearing-header

but its got a much much more expensive setup, but the info in there might also help you

[hallow mantle]

Flask

[midnight geode]

guys if i take this notable, will this skill that consumes shock to do mroe dmg have a 25% chance to reapply it?

or is it to make other skills that dont consume shock, consume it

[blissful stratus]

oh xD You should be using "ultimate mana flask" by now, with increased amount recovered, and possibly more charges or charge recovery depending on where you find yourself running out of mana

[hallow mantle]

@blissful stratus i use this Guide

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/archmage-spark-stormweaver-build-guide

What is better ?

[blissful stratus]

I can't say which guide is better tbh, I would make sure you have everything in the "levelling" guide covered by CrouchingTuna, then keep following CaptainLances guide, it doesnt rely on a widowhail setup and has alot of good advice in it

[hallow mantle]

Can you send a photo of yours, so I can try to buy one like it?

[blissful stratus]

I don't have the build myself, I just research and read alot about lots of builds

the guides have gear pieces in them, and advice on what stats to look for

[hallow mantle]

Ok !! Nice tips

[blissful stratus]

tbh just Mana/ES/Resistances/Rarity is your bread and butter stats

[hallow mantle]

I really liked the captainlance build, I want to do it right, but the mana is killing me lol

[blissful stratus]

do you have inspiration on spark?

inspiration support*

[hallow mantle]

Inspiration is a skill right?

[blissful stratus]

its a support gem

[upbeat ivy]

which is better for infernalist minion army

[blissful stratus]

first one probably, crit damage is useless right now for minions

[hallow mantle]

Humm i check here

[neat bison]

Neither are great, I’d do right because it has more spirit and you can still quality it

[hallow mantle]

ES?

[upbeat ivy]

what do i want then

[blissful stratus]

energy shield, if you are Eldritch Battery yet, it will give you more mana

[upbeat ivy]

cus i dropped a div orb today campaigning so i have 110 exalteds

can spend a couple on a sceptre

[hallow mantle]

My energy Shield in LV 72 is 2801

[neat bison]

Spirit and +minion levels are the most important stats. Flat damage is going to be more impactful than %increased as well

[upbeat ivy]

ok i will take a look at the trade site

does it have to be a rattling wand?

or not really

[blissful stratus]

while this is true, these are very low level, and will be replaced

[hallow mantle]

Mana 2998

[neat bison]

Ideally for the free minions but it’ll be more expensive

You can make an aura one work if needed

[hallow mantle]

Ohh, ._. i use inspiration

Yet

[neat bison]

Yes I agree, wouldn’t spend more than a couple exalts on low level gear

[blissful stratus]

so, the strength of your build is the two "Keystones" on the passive tree called "Eldritch battery" and "Mind over matter", which together convert all your energy shield to mana, and then you take damage to mana instead of health or energy shield. you might want to try allocating them and seeing how it feels. If you havent done your second or third ascendancy yet to get "Constant Gale" and "Force of Will" you might should look into that as well

[upbeat ivy]

isnt this quite good @neat bison

for 1 ex

[neat bison]

Sure that’s solid

[upbeat ivy]

is this better?

the 8% res sounds nice

[neat bison]

I don’t find minion res too important until very late game

[blissful stratus]

there is also an amulet called "The Everlasting Gaze", a weak one might be cheap enough to pick up if you can fit it in your build

[blissful stratus]

if its only 1 ex, its definitely better than what you have, and will give you more bois to fight with

[blissful stratus]

yeah, I really think all you can do is fight to get more mana and ES on your items xD

and mana regen

[hallow mantle]

Oh thanks

[blissful stratus]

The guide also suggests "Mana Regen rolls on Amulet/Rings/Wand as well as there a nodes nearby on tree I don't have allocated, grab them to compensate if gear is lacking mana regen. I would also heavily recommend using inspiration support on main skill to cut mana consumption in half."

[blissful stratus]

this node on the tree, straight north of the starting position, can really help you compensate

Good luck~

[halcyon solar]

is Monster Armor from the "Monsters are armored" map mod as bad as player's armor?

so is it basically insignificant?

[blissful stratus]

I actually think that monster armor is better than player armor by a significant amount

there are some monsters without that affix who walk around with 26k+ armour too

[halcyon solar]

i mean as long as the armor does nothing as for warrior

or players in general

[blissful stratus]

I definitely think their armor calculation is stronger than players

[fair dust]

does "increased skill effect duration" also affects curses, because i saw "increased curse duration" in some other places

[sick flower]

as a ice strike/lightning monk, should i look for pshysical dmg number or total dps on a weapon?

[halcyon solar]

30% into the next map it seems like the mod doesn't buff the monsters at all.

[neat bison]

It would, the distinction is just to make the curse one only affect curses

[fair dust]

ahhh ty

[gray ferry]

what are some great general amulet annoints? 🤔

[vast plaza]

will Primal Armament have any effect if my weapon doesn't have any elemental damage? Assuming that I'm using a skill that convert 50% of physical damage to fire damage

[neat bison]

It will boost the fire dmg then

[blissful stratus]

Do both of those abilities convert 100% of physical? if so then, physical will double dip into both of your damage types, whereas added elemental really only helps a little bit one way or the other

in a perfect world, you'd have lots of all three

[sick flower]

@blissful stratushow can i know if they convert to phy?

[blissful stratus]

should be in the skill description

[sick flower]

@blissful stratusthx ill check

[vast plaza]

I see, thank you. I was confused because the wording is different than the other support gems, it says "weapon elemental damage"

[blissful stratus]

attack speed can also be a big important thing on the weapon if you wanna attack faster

[neat bison]

It just works a little differently than something like fire infusion, which would add 25% of the total damage as extra fire

[twilit ruin]

wip enemy slowing gathering storm zoom zoom https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/planner/builds

i just made a deadeye with a similar concept but realized the windup animation for gathering storm isnt effected by skill speed just the dash

its still not terrible bc speed stack quartstaff is busted regardless

woops let me add the skills

[gray ferry]

Would this kill you if you had Chaos Innoculation? And what about if you had Mind Over Matter too?

[blissful stratus]

Lose isnt damage, so mom wouldnt work, but I do think it would kill you

[proper mauve]

If a jewel says increased amount of mana leeched does that mean the charm will leech itself or do i have to have another item that leeches?

[zinc pawn]

can anyone tell me if leather bound gauntlets+generals bindings are worth it? im doing strength stacking on a gemling but i found some unique gloves that dont have any armour and im considering just not using any armor at all?

[blissful stratus]

increased leech wont work unless you have leech, yes

[proper mauve]

ok thanks

[blissful stratus]

Armour, the stat, is almost completely useless at the moment

but with a str stacker, it's hard to go es unles you have a mega divines jewel...

Cloak of flame is nice but still

[zinc pawn]

yeah ive been kind of following a build that said to use hybrid armor/evasuion gear

what armor should i use for strength stacking then

[halcyon solar]

There is no way of knowing if you have an "additional Breach" in your map, is it?

[proper mauve]

Why when fire is on the ground and it starts depleting my shield , my shield wont go back up when I pick up the orbs from Grim Feast?

[still rock]

first thoughts:

1. i think youd probably rather just be shield with block and take offensive stance, going qstaff isnt giving you much aside from +2 melee level, just personal preference though. using 1h mace would also open up resonating shield & since youre doing a lot of phys dmg youll find use there
2. i think youll ultimately want damage supports on the staggering for the projectiles, maybe heft or the wed support if that works here (no clue how that interacts with unarmed)
3. mantra only empowers qstaff attacks
4. you pathing to hunker down and not taking it hurts my soul
5. youre most likely going to want to repath to be eva/es or ar/es and take some more defensive nodes outside of block if you like not dying
6. heralds (ignore hoa its garbage imo)
7. alternatively - maybe explore original sin and chaos scaling
8. idk its probably jank GL

[static plinth]

Cant unarmed with a 1H mace

[still rock]

wat

thats funny

[static plinth]

If you wield a martial weapon besides a Qstaff you cant use unnarmed skills without weapon swapping

Even if your other hand is empty

[still rock]

unarmed my ass

well then ignore that note and just add in bell somewhere too

[static plinth]

Also i briefly considered Collapsing Horizon for this but decided Elemental Expression was against my code of honor

It gives +12 to Ele Expression and Ele Conflux though lol

(According to the wiki at least)

[halcyon solar]

can you somehow disable the visiblity of the quests on the right of your screen?

[still rock]

wait wat

[static plinth]

Currently bugged(?), it gives +4 per elemental tag

[still rock]

it give +4 for every ele tag?

[static plinth]

So Cold+Lightning+Fire gives +12 total

[still rock]

lolmao

also consider avatar of fire and overheating blow so you can scale one damage type

[celest oxide]

Gemling ascendency adds an additional 14% to gem quality on top of the max 20% right

[static plinth]

[celest oxide]

so I can go up to 34% on gemling?

[static plinth]

Really i dont think pure unnarmed is playable until we get one that's dedicated to DPS or we get Facebreaker

[still rock]

i dont think shattering palm requires freeze, does it?

[static plinth]

It doesnt

But it cant cause itself to explode

Which sucks

[still rock]

yeah either original sin or avatar of fire is probably the best bet then to scale one damage type

oh

well then it just sucks if it doesnt explode

[static plinth]

Yeah thats why i hard-focused uptime on Staggering, so the projectiles can trigger the explosions

Gotta say i do appreciate Warrior having generic melee damage instead of melee phys damage

[still rock]

also funny enough killing palm does more attack damage % but without melee splash its gunna clear like poop

[static plinth]

Killing Palm sucks shit unfortunately

[still rock]

its almost 100% more attack scaling at level 20 than staggering tho

after you get your buff atleast

[static plinth]

Maybe the next update will add more uniques to the game

[blissful stratus]

facebreakers when

[still rock]

maybe berserker will have some unarmed flavour

[thin basin]

"gain x% dmg as extra dmg" is scalable right

[still rock]

ye

[dark lintel]

how much was this guy worth?

i checked at market same stats around 25 divines

[atomic halo]

i find 25 divines hard to believe

but we dont do price checks here

[dark lintel]

yea

[thin basin]

ill have like 200% extra chaos and optionaly maybe 100% from archmage without too much stacking

[dark lintel]

thats why im asking XD

cause i cant believe the market price

[thin basin]

wondering how far i can scale that chaos dmg

[atomic halo]

get better at using trade

[dark lintel]

yea typed same stats

mister perfect trader

[jaunty reef]

hey anyone have a high lvl skeleton reaver skill? like 25-30, what does their spirit cost end up being when they are that high?

[dark lintel]

lololol

[dawn condor]

unfortunate

[static plinth]

Berserker's fate is to have 2 rage nodes and then the most forgettable ascendancy ever crafted by human hands

[still rock]

those have considerably higher damage than yours and also #2┃build-planning message

[thin basin]

here ur welcome https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/RXj56LZi7

[atomic halo]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/kEYZ0m0S5

i got it to 1 div so im better

[thin basin]

now back to the thing, how far u think i can scale chaos dmg

[static plinth]

Right number is the reservation, left i slevel

[dark lintel]

is there a way to search my item on the market so i can see the dps

[atomic halo]

try doing math

[dark lintel]

yea yea mr. perfect

[still rock]

#2┃build-planning message

#2┃build-planning message

[atomic halo]

but yeah if you're lazy you can list it and check the listing

[atomic halo]

(190+392)/2*1.64*1.2

[jaunty reef]

thank you

[still rock]

theres a lot of inc % chao on the tree tbh

and if you dont use a chaos skill than you negate event horizon's downside lol

[dark lintel]

this thing doesnt have attack speed lol

[atomic halo]

sort by attack speed

[static plinth]

Holy brain

[still rock]

[atomic halo]

or dont because i dont think it actually matters if the dps compensates

10% more dps isnt much worse than 10% more atkspd

[dark lintel]

i think i am better at filtering market than you.

when you're proclaiming to for me to get better

[atomic halo]

and if you sort by dps you can find like 10% more dps (for 1 div)

???

wait i forgot to calc quality

mb

[dark lintel]

you should

[thin basin]

contemplating between these gain x as chaos or ele

[dark lintel]

do this to your filter

[zinc pawn]

is there a better option than using armor as a strength stack build?

[atomic halo]

i upgrade my estimate to 2-3 div https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/KXwKzdEU5

i forgot about quality

[still rock]

i think taking a shit ton of gain x as chao and using original sin sounds like a cool build idea

[atomic halo]

but 25d is crazy lol

if you want to go crazy 5d is the highest of human possibility

[still rock]

ar/es atziris disdain

this is the way

[dark lintel]

basic thing is this. then try to sort on dps if you are looking for high dps

[viscid hollow]

Can you snapshot Warcry empowered buff on 2nd weapon set and have the Empowered attack for weapoin set 1?

[dark lintel]

if you want to be accurate put stats on your weap as min stats. then sort again

you dont sort on level requirement or something sht

[atomic halo]

what

[dark lintel]

cause you still get what you want. atleast this way it was way accurate than how you filter

this is your filter

[atomic halo]

whats wrong with it

[thin basin]

nothing

[dark lintel]

nothing

[still rock]

thats how you search for weapons

[dark lintel]

it wasnt just accurate

[thin basin]

its weapon who cares about what mods beside crit and crit bonus

sort by dps

[atomic halo]

are you going to explain

like for crit chance

[dark lintel]

i sort to dps after i put the high tier stats

[atomic halo]

why would i check for the explicit like you did instead of doing the way i did it

in what world is your method better

okay good talk

[gray ferry]

Are there ways to get spell mana leech? 🤔

[still rock]

be blood mage

[thin basin]

not mana

doesnt exist

[still rock]

oh

im blind

[thin basin]

well i guess blood mage if you uh lifetap the spell yea

[gray ferry]

I see

[still rock]

technically mana drain from attuned wand leeches

[rustic vortex]

is minion crit rate/crit dmg beneficial for skeletal arsonists?

[halcyon solar]

when you have like "Elemental Ailment Threshold" on your Jewel. Does that mean it's for your own defense or in terms of offense?

like freezing shocking quicker

[still rock]

your own

[halcyon solar]

i have 14% crossbow dmg, 14% Ailment Threshold and 5% Cooldown on a Jewel and sidekicks says that's 1 div.

doesn't seem all that great to me

[still rock]

whats sidekicks out of curiosity, an overlay?

[halcyon solar]

third party addon. It's legit though stated by GGG.

[still rock]

also its impossible to trust 1 div listings rn

just because you price check something at another person's listed value doesnt mean anyone is buying that

if that makes sense

[halcyon solar]

it's not just one person

[still rock]

yeah everyone is throwing shit in their 1 div tab because trade site thinks 1 div is worth 5 ex

so they appear before everything else

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/YdPezgXIY

[halcyon solar]

it's the cooldown thing

they go up with that, i just saw

[still rock]

yeah 5 is the highest roll but even then i see 30 ex, 35ex, 80ex

regardless - something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it so put it in a div tab and keep truckin, maybe someone buys it maybe someone doesnt

i hilariously underprice things to sell fast

money now better

[zinc pawn]

is there anything on the passive tree i should go for if i run armor/es

am a gemling

i assume strength stack+ghostwrithe is pretty good?

[cyan plinth]

Is item level 82 max?

[still rock]

ar/es is on the other side from you, whats your tree look like

[neat bison]

They have like 5% base crit so no I wouldn’t recommend it

[still rock]

no buts thats the required ilvl for all tiers of any affix

[kind mountain]

Question: Huntress skills like whirlwind strike... need INT?.. or she uses dex?

[rustic vortex]

anyone know? feels like im on mute in this whole discord 😭, i just ask because i noticed cc's don't put points into it with arsonists but no info on it anywhere i could find

[cyan plinth]

Okay, so thats why my item filter is highlighting them more that others

[neat bison]

Already answered you lol

[rustic vortex]

omg sorry lol, & ty for the reply

[still rock]

yeah probably nothing there specifically for ar/es, and the ar/eva nodes are hilariously bad imo

but you have so much strength atziris disdain is useful

flat life from strength = more es

every 1 strength is worth .25 - .3 es with disdain depending on the roll

i'd probably anoint melding

[zinc pawn]

i dont know what anoint is

[atomic halo]

erm its called instilling

[still rock]

[still rock]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Distilled_Emotion

also if youre this new i recommend probably not doing an attribute stacker because itll be expensive as shart

but who knows maybe pillar is just that busted

[zinc pawn]

i wasnt planning on doing much trading

[still rock]

that u can use shit gear lol

[zinc pawn]

my friend group is all sharing uniques and this is what im using so far

[still rock]

unless you have an explicit idea of what youre doing with attribute stacking, there's not much point tbh

[static plinth]

You gotta take off that helmet yesterday

[kind mountain]

can someone answer this?

[still rock]

erian's cobble meta

[atomic halo]

you mean ranger?

[still rock]

this class doesnt exist yet

[kind mountain]

i mean the huntress which uises spears

[still rock]

doesnt exist yet

[kind mountain]

i see, where i can get more info on it?

[still rock]

doesnt exist yet

[atomic halo]

also i couldnt find whirlwind strike on poe2db

[static plinth]

DB removed all the pre-release stuff

[halcyon solar]

Is there any way to see an items dps without pulling out the calculator?

[atomic halo]

my guy is playing from the future

[static plinth]

Most of all we've got is from that one Huntress gameplay showcase, and no telling if that'll stay accuate to release

[zinc pawn]

i thought the point was brute strength?

is that not enough?

[static plinth]

The...pre-er-release

Guys listen you need to stop them from adding Scales of Justice it'll break the meta for 4 leagues in a row

[still rock]

if all youre doing with attribute stacking is getting brute strength then no thats not enough

[kind mountain]

you gave me the tip, i was saying the wrong name: ia this one https://poe2db.tw/us/Whirling_Slash

[still rock]

no int on that

[atomic halo]

i dont see any int requirement

[kind mountain]

i see!

[atomic halo]

is there possibly an int support on the whirling slash

[zinc pawn]

what else should it be contributing to? besides max hp of course

[atomic halo]

life, mana, accuracy (str, int, dex)

nothing else by default

[zinc pawn]

no i mean stacking strength

i did plan on taking the node that gives accuracy for strength

and stun threshold

[atomic halo]

i mean isn't that something you should know

what payoffs you're going to get

[static plinth]

God gave us attributes to stack and we will stack them

The only payoff i care about is big strong

[zinc pawn]

i thought brute strength/enhanced effectiveness was enough?

[crude lagoon]

so the Apocalypse passive says
%40 Reduced damage
+6 Crit Hit Chance of Herald Skills

does that mean all my dmg is 40 less

or just the herald skills

err passives

[still rock]

strength stackers are generally gunna be titan anyways

gemli is good for howa dex/int tho

[static plinth]

Gemling is tri-attribute mainly i think

Cuz Pillar also solves all your % inc damage

[still rock]

it is, but there's nothing in the game that benefits from pure strength stacking as your only source of scaling aside from pillar of the caged god

[halcyon solar]

Is there a way to see an items dps without calculating yourself?

[crude lagoon]

hey thats what i use

[still rock]

whats a high amt of strenght anyways

like 1k?

[crude lagoon]

kzg skill screen

[zinc pawn]

tbh im not even thniking about uniques since im not planning on trading anytime soon

[static plinth]

There is also Iron Will/Grip but that removes life from it so L

[static plinth]

Then why attribute stack at all

[zinc pawn]

this is my first playthrough

[still rock]

even at 1k thats only 66% inc damage from brute strength, you can get more elsewhere

with less points travelling there

[halcyon solar]

that's with all my mods. I just want to see the dps of the item by itself.

[zinc pawn]

brute strength and lots of health is all i knew about

[static plinth]

Attribute stacking means shirking most other forms of scaling, not just getting a good amount of stats

[crude lagoon]

the trade site shows dps

[viscid hollow]

Anyone knows? The buff seems to last between switching weapons and next ability consumes it but I am not sure if the damage increase is applied

[halcyon solar]

funny you say that. I put my bow up for 88 divine to just look at it there and it doesn't show up.... 😄

[crude lagoon]

oh crap lol

[atomic halo]

you can test it

[plucky tree]

hey can someone help me, im trying to figure out how to get spark to 50% crit chance and i assume there is something i have missed in the skill tree. lvl 79 spark crit gemling build attempt

[static plinth]

You have to specifically search for your name, otherwise it filters you out by default

[atomic halo]

like use infernal cry with all phys weapon, if it ignites it snapshots

[halcyon solar]

oh, didn't know that

thanks

[sinful spoke]

does anyone have a clue why temporalis is so cheap rn?

[static plinth]

Duplication bug

[atomic halo]

dupes (patched)

[crude lagoon]

oh right it only shows max base item stat at max quality, you know what. imma shut up. im stonned and tired. sorry to get in the way XD

[sinful spoke]

🫣 any good builds for temporalis? i bought one for cheap

[static plinth]

Holy fuck its down to 8 div? lmfao

[sinful spoke]

it went down to 7

[static plinth]

Adn i thought 30 was cheap

[sinful spoke]

then bounced to 9

[plucky tree]

figured it out crit hit chance works for spells and regular

[sinful spoke]

which class make the best use out of it? thinking of making one next

[still rock]

jung had a choir of the storm thing

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/8014472c-cac9-4647-a278-35270e375299/builds/d4270dc2-f6eb-46a6-a37a-5e7ac0457f9b

[static plinth]

If its a 4s one you basically evaporate the cooldown from Elemental Storm on Stormweaver which is hilarious

And yeah Choir of The Storm can proc itself with any roll at all

[tiny brook]

How's flicker?

[sinful spoke]

im like scared to play his build

dude is like a target for nerfs

[sinful spoke]

got a 3.45, i can look into this i guess

[still rock]

id imagine temporalis is going to get removed from reducing inherent item cds (pure conjecture so dont sue me)

so thats fair

but the ele storm thing sounds cool

[static plinth]

I think with 3.45 and the 150% more CDR node you can get down to like a 0.5s cd on it

Base CD is 5s for reference

[sinful spoke]

how does that work, wouldnt 100% cdr half the cd?

[still rock]

does temporalis remove cd before or after increases to cdr

[sinful spoke]

or is it temporalis reduction first, then halfs

[static plinth]

Before

[sinful spoke]

ahh gotcha

[static plinth]

Temporalis first, like all flat modifiers

If Temporalis was second, oh god you could do some fucked up shit

0 CD Hourglass skills and shit probably

[still rock]

shield charge build

[sage gyro]

would ice strike be "an attack skill that is elemental"?

[still rock]

yes

[sinful spoke]

im not rly understanding where shield charge gets damage from

[still rock]

idk im just memeing

but from your shield

high armor = more dmg

lets see

[sinful spoke]

that part confuses me

[still rock]

thats the base dmg

it adds a base damage because shields dont have damage inherently

[sinful spoke]

ahh ok

but isnt the damage still very low?

since shield armor doesnt go very high

[still rock]

6-8 added per 15 armor and you based on trade the top end would be 1.2k+

so 480-640

[little echo]

why do my weapon set spirit reservations not work

[coarse shale]

Doe ES recharge speed applies to mana when using Eldritch Battery?

[sinful spoke]

so then that gets increases from ur passive tree?

and ignores mainhand completely?

[still rock]

yeah youd probably just get a +5 melee 1h mace with the lowest ats possible id imagine

[sinful spoke]

ohh could cook with unique 1h maybe

[static plinth]

I think you just do rare unless you do something funny with Seeing Stars

Jesus fuck we need more one handers im dying of thirst out here

Why'd they add the most boring weapon type first 😭

[sinful spoke]

energy is used for the cast on stuff right?

[still rock]

if you could get shield charge to like level 28 from +5 1h, +3 amulet then it does 221-331 base, with 1.2k armor shield that's 701 - 971

thats a lot

[halcyon solar]

Is there a way to see Lost Tower range?

[still rock]

and at 28 the collision explosion does 968% attack dmg scaling

lol

[sinful spoke]

ohh, ok yea this sounds fun

very zoomzoom

[static plinth]

Yeah

Man i hope Impale comes back

[still rock]

iirc you have to go to the epilogue zone

and interact with the map device there

[sinful spoke]

what do u think would be the best class for shield charge build?

[halcyon solar]

i once saw orange circles around towers but no clue how i got those. I'll try that one

[static plinth]

My gut says Witchhunter just cuz you cant go wrong with that

[halcyon solar]

thanks

[sinful spoke]

more explosion right?

[static plinth]

Personally i think people are sleeping hard on Concentration

[still rock]

yeah its a bug sometimes it appears sometimes it doesnt but it always does if you mouse over the tower in the epilogue map device

[sinful spoke]

it doesnt work with decimating strike tho

kinda a bummer

[halcyon solar]

by epilogue you mean the the "public" map device and not in your hideout, right?

[static plinth]

Yeah

[still rock]

titan maybe just to scale more defenses from shield from small nodes lol

[static plinth]

That doenst scale damage though which is

[still rock]

does it not tho?

[static plinth]

No

[still rock]

shield charge doesnt specify

let me test

[static plinth]

Man i should make an arc build

ITS CAST TIME IS WHAT NOW

[still rock]

yes it does scale shield charge dmg

man you could that that base value really fucking high

[static plinth]

Really?? Thats fucked up then

You can probably hit like 3k base damage

[still rock]

get attack aoe and as much defense from shield on the tree as you can

[static plinth]

1300 armour on crazy high end shields, there's gotta be at least 300% on the tree, so like 2000 - 2600 base phys damage

[atomic halo]

chat are we cooking

[static plinth]

Not including DE

We found the meta you just need Temporalis 5head

Is there CDR on the tree?

[still rock]

spiked shield anoint is cheap too, gives inc attack dmg per 75 armor on shield

thatd be a lot if it takes it from the scaled amt rather than the base

[static plinth]

Does 50% inc CDR make the cooldown 3/4ths

I forget how math works

2/3rds?

Does the cooldown run while charging?

[crisp star]

mana recovery acts like a mana regen multiplier or nah?

[still rock]

adding up shield nodes with titan small passive included is
100+50+22+22+37+37+37+37+37+37+37+45+40+50(from spiked anoint)
588 increased

[crisp star]

and does it affect recoup?

[still rock]

lol

[static plinth]

Holy fuck

[still rock]

https://i.imgur.com/ruKWkod.png

pathing could be awkward

probably cant get it all

[static plinth]

Yeah you dont path to the stuff to the right of Merc for sure

EVerything else is probably reasonable

[still rock]

okay so if you ignore those then its 471

[narrow shuttle]

does anyone know how i can make my warycry build have elemental damage. (the 75% physical as fire dmg makes corrupting cry do 0 dmg)

[static plinth]

This is stupid enough i actually wanna run it

How do we scale AoE, tree?

There's tons in Warrior's zone

I think at least 200%

[narrow shuttle]

^ also u can add some empowering skills like that fire warcry to boost shield skills

[still rock]

which on a 1.3k armor shield is 6,123 armor which is 2448-3264 base damage

[static plinth]

And after DE?

Lets assume level 25 (Mace+Support)

Or is it 26, w/e

[trail flare]

What are you cooking here guys?

[still rock]

2669-3595 at level 28, scaling at 968% attack damage on collision explosion is like 25,835-34,799 a hit before you even account for any other increases

[thorny token]

increased defenses from shield should not scale the flat at all, are you sure that you tested it properly, because if not then you should retest it again

as that is not how increased defenses from x works at all

as none of those nodes scale the base value its just global increase added with other global increases just specific to one slot

[orchid acorn]

Is an armor break build viable? Or should I just go elemental with shock?

[static plinth]

In theory it should be

[sinful spoke]

Ohhh thats my next build then, ty

[thorny token]

well if youa re stuck with phys skill then armour break is useful

[still rock]

before 37% increased defenses from tree

after

[thorny token]

but at least on warriors going avatar of fire is way better

[orchid acorn]

I am currently with a phys merc using HVR and picked gas grenade for the armor break with some nodes as well, dmg is ok, but I'm paper

[thorny token]

do you have any conversion or from where is the fire and lightning coming from

and why did it increased

[still rock]

gain x as fire on wand and lightning dmg on gloves but i can remove those and do again

[static plinth]

Which nodes are you allocating?

[thorny token]

well make sure you are not clicking any increased damage

[still rock]

just one shield defences small node

[static plinth]

Oh hey Hulking Form actually changes the descriptions? Thats nice

Does your damage get dumpstered if you remove that whole arm?

Also we could put an "inc effect of passives in radius" jewel there lol

[thin basin]

soon maybe

[thorny token]

can you cehck the collision part

[still rock]

nvm we're bungled

[thorny token]

instead of aoe

[static plinth]

its joever

[still rock]

didnt account for offensive stance rip

[thorny token]

because im just looking at vid of shield charge and it isnt working for that dude at all, and if it worked in first place it would be a bug

[still rock]

ignore everything i just said in the last 15 minutes

[static plinth]

Shield Charge is Just Okay™️ 😔

[thorny token]

rip

[static plinth]

Do we have a shield bash skill or is it just charge and resonating

[still rock]

make shield throw great again

[static plinth]

Huh we got Dirt Wall with our Flame Wall and Ice Wall

No Shield Crush 😔

[thin basin]

life/es stack bloodmage
crit, ele, spell, maybe leech?
max hp scaling, into es with unique helmet, scale es from tree,
scale life from item and jewels
grand spectrum x3
against the darkness
want to keep as much overflow life as possible, aka lots of crit
grab chest es -> life notable (1k base life and es)
find a way to fit in blood magic, so using hp as mana pool, and es as life pool
mahu shield 40% life?

my issue is how to scale the dmg even more

[still rock]

even without the scaling that didnt exist, shield charge seems to do pretty high base dmg on a 1.3k shield as it is with the insane atk scaling from the collision

so still something there to explore perhaps

968% is absurd

seems like that is only for the enemies with you directly collide with

hmm

[elfin steppe]

Hey I had a question! I'm planning on going chronomancer for my ascendancy but I also want to do something with fire, is this possible? I'm level 20 right now but not really envisioning how I can put things together. Any advice or suggestions is appreciated! Thanks

[still rock]

still 323% for the aoe i think though

[thorny token]

its not even that absurd when thats at level 28 and shield charge gets only like 5% more DE per level anyway

[static plinth]

Aftershocks arent slams even if they come from slams, right

[still rock]

yeah compared to like hotg its nothing

but assuming youd be able to spam it with temporalis idk how realistic the dps would be

[static plinth]

I wonder how Shield Wall is

[still rock]

at 28 it looks like 444%

with the exact same base phys dmg

(4–88) to (6–132) Base Off Hand Physical Damage

6 to 8 Added Physical Damage per 15 Armour on Shield

same as charge

but that requires you to put them down then destroy them

whereas charge would just be mash button

[static plinth]

Yeah but you do spawn more than 1 segment at a time

I dont think they're technically ice walls though so icicle wouldnt work

[shy ermine]

Is 40k lightning arrow decent? having a hard time squeezing out more dps.

[safe gorge]

Whats a realistic price for a large controlled meta diamond?

[still rock]

i'd give it a shot if i had more than 8 div to my name just for shits n giggles

maybe when some shit sells

[solemn wigeon]

is there a 18 div build that can do t15 guys?

[still rock]

yes

lol

[solemn wigeon]

No ranger or gemling

[tacit anchor]

has anyone tried a spell warrior with all the ele dmg nodes?

[neat bison]

You can clear T15s for under 1 div

You don’t need BIS gear

[solemn wigeon]

what build?

[neat bison]

Any one lol

[half owl]

is there equivalent for cannibalism but for mana on enemy kill

[still rock]

booger strike

clears t15s

with 69ex

[neat bison]

True

[still rock]

get %mana on kill jewel

much recommend

(sapphire)

[half owl]

thats such a great idea thank you so much

[compact kiln]

does something like "% increased evasion" on body armour effect all your stats, or just the stats on body armour?

[still rock]

body armor

its a local mod

[dawn condor]

breh

[dawn condor]

so just like flasks

yayyyyyyyyyyyyy

[compact kiln]

you had my hopes up for a moment @dawn condor

[dawn condor]

life recovery*

your first error was believing anything I type

[still rock]

rule of thumb in poe is that if an item has those base stats inherently on it then things like increased % phys damage for example on a weapon will just increase the physical damage on that weapon

[vernal falcon]

%increased evasion does work like that on amulet though

[still rock]

same for defences with helm,body armor, boots, gloves

[vernal falcon]

Running the weirdest build where my best Stat is life flask recovery

[radiant compass]

is this a good buy for 10 div

[vernal falcon]

I'd say so, would be hard pressed to replace that

[still rock]

support pf?

[vernal falcon]

Nah it's a solo build

Demon comet auto bomber

[dawn condor]

yo does anyone know where I can find a decent explosive concoction buildcause I tried using Google and YouTube and maxroll and mobaand a whole lot of nothingness popped up

[still rock]

ah i havent fucked with demon form at all yet

seems wild

[still rock]

prob cause ignite is poop

[vernal falcon]

^

[dawn condor]

your kidding me

so only poison is the good dot

[still rock]

p much as of now

[vernal falcon]

Freeze is also good I saw

Especially for mapping

[dawn condor]

so Is fulminating

[vernal falcon]

Yea fire damage is just ass

[still rock]

the lightning one looks fun for single targeto

[vernal falcon]

In general

[dawn condor]

freeze one is strongest one imo just because it can freeze

[vernal falcon]

No cc and no shock

[dawn condor]

that right there might make me swap outta p conq

[dawn condor]

at least it isn't bleed

[vernal falcon]

Yea my build doesn't melt bosses immediately so putting freeze up is nice for clean kills

[dawn condor]

the freeze can also save ur damn life

[still rock]

bleed can atleast become aggravated

ignite is just ass at the current % inherent magnitude value

[vernal falcon]

Cause 50 comets a second I can't see shit to dodge

[dawn condor]

aggravated into re rolling

I be looking out for fulminating coc or freeze

[still rock]

i respect your integrity not wanting to play the poison one

[vernal falcon]

And cause it's probably expensive af rn

Chaos damage rings and gem shit sells pretty well

[still rock]

probably still outperforms the rest with poop gear

[vernal falcon]

Yea I mean most of my shit is just cheap 1 ex

Like I'd get lucky with a raw div price drop

[still rock]

im playing ignite flameblast just fine but i wish the single target was better tbh

[vernal falcon]

My build is goofy and constant chance of selfimploding if I don't balance my stats

Barrier invo demonform auto bomber with flask sustain lol

Demon form and autocasting 30 comets a second gives me all the offense I need so my entire passive tree is just defence to survive the self damage of smacking myself with fire damage

[dawn condor]

it's getting expensive

[rough monolith]

i have a question, Im trying to make my own build for a new warrior Im starting does corrupting cry that does physical dmg, will it change to fire dmg after I unlock avatar of fire?

[vernal falcon]

Yes

[still rock]

i still dont know how ignite being 20% value and poison also being 20% value but can stack up to 8 or whatever times made it past the drawing board

[dawn condor]

yup

[vernal falcon]

I think cause poison scales off phsy? So they figured fire might be able to just scale higher?

Idk iv seen funny HOTA ignite builds

But caster ignite Is bad yea

[still rock]

phys and chaos additively

yet bleed is 15% from just phys

[rough monolith]

after I have avatar of fire, do my attacks still gain from leech of life?

[still rock]

[vernal falcon]

Oh yea forgot chaos foes too

[vernal falcon]

Nah

[still rock]

Change what

[viral crag]

Meant to @ you actually @still rock

[vernal falcon]

Nah I'm just stupid

[rough monolith]

so after avatar of fire should I focus on hp per second and hp per kill?

[viral crag]

Usually the poison damage itself doesn't scale off of either.

In poe the poison scaled off the initial hit

[still rock]

yeah in poe2 the poison is 20% of phys + chaos hit

[viral crag]

You would have to have a skill that scaled off phys and chaos on hit though.

[still rock]

or just be chayula

poison conc does chao dmg hit anyways for the pf stuff

[grave talon]

any good anyoingments for deadyeye?

[still rock]

anyoingment

need more info than just the ascendancy if you want a good answer

[grave talon]

playing Explosive shot + Shockburst rounds

and ES + evasion for defence

defense*

[dawn condor]

widowhail go brrrr

[hardy valve]

Has anyone seen a simple definition of what "minions have reduced reservation" actually mean? I'm really confused at the word "reservation"

Thank you!

[solemn wigeon]

anyone help me choose a buid please 😄 i have like 17 div

[rough monolith]

they cost less spirit

[dawn condor]

^

[still rock]

are you asking for a value anoint or an expensive one

[grave talon]

cheaper one

[rough monolith]

when you select a minion they reserve some spirit, this will decrease that amount

[still rock]

conservative casting is kinda nice in general if you have any mana issues

as a cheap anoint

[grave talon]

and for a defensive one?

[still rock]

melding

more es more good

more expensive tho

[dawn condor]

wow that is terrible

and it can't bypass es

but hey at least it can aggravate

[hardy valve]

Oh that's it? facepalm. Does it work for all minions that "cost" spirit to bring out?

[rough monolith]

yes

[grave talon]

thx papa

[hardy valve]

Thank you

[rough monolith]

no problem

[still rock]

yeah damaging ailments aside from poison are kinda sad atm

[dawn condor]

I cant with bleeding aggravating

so many jokes to be made

[rough monolith]

i was trying to make a walking fire warrior god, but not sure if it will work lol

[dawn condor]

ye they are probably some of the worst things to exist

it's actually pathetic how little damage bleed does compared to poison

[still rock]

i imagine theyre going to add bleed support through inherent attack dmg scaling like the poison bow skills rn

just dont have them yet

also dont have any ascendancies with ignite or bleed support

so its more of a case of playing a game that's 20% complete than anything

[rough monolith]

they should make a support that the more rage you have the more fire dmg you do

[dawn condor]

right we don't have gladiator in the game yet

and if it's anything like poe 1

probably won't be

he be the bleed guy i think?

[still rock]

we have 33% of all ascendancies we should have at launch

and then all of the skills we dont have

so ofc some mechanics in game are going to be way worse

[dawn condor]

kinda chain concoction skills could chain again

very satisfying to watching the bottle bouncing around the map

[dawn condor]

True aren't really that many bleed nodes

[still rock]

technically it does that already if youre doing fire damage from an attack

its just 1% more attack dmg per stack

[dawn condor]

I don't got much to say about ignite though

it's just fodder gor gas grenades

[rough monolith]

its too little

[still rock]

it could be better, flameblast is probably the best of the bunch for fire spells rn and afaik hotg builds are using ignite over bleed

[rough monolith]

hum...

[dawn condor]

thinking thinking thinking

[still rock]

but as of now we dont have a "ignite" build or "bleed" build, just things that incorporate them for more single target dps

[dawn condor]

conclusion fire>bleed though I'll give have to go try it out myself instead of typing it up in here

[still rock]

i mean technically my flameblaster is using it for clear with fiery death but the magnitude of ignite doesnt matter in that case

just as long as the mob is ignited

[dawn condor]

do you use herald of ash also by chance

or it's not worth

[still rock]

no it only works with attacks

[dawn condor]

right forgot about that part

[still rock]

i tried it on my spiral volley warbringer but all it does is ignite so its mostly useless for clear imo

especially considering the pop is 1m baseline lol

[dawn condor]

all I can see is

we at ggg hate fire so fuck you

go use lighting or frost

(I made this up this is entirely false)

[still rock]

one ascendancy that interacts with ignite can change that

poison has pf and chayula

i havent even tried the infernalist infernal flame stuff but maybe there's something there, just not as enabling as pf for poison

[dawn condor]

monk ascendancy mentioned?

[still rock]

say hypothetically the third sorc ascendancy has a node that makes ignite's base magnitude tripled, so 60%

that would do a lot

its just hard for us to imagine the balance of a game that we have only 30% of the information on

[viscid hollow]

Good Spirit Buffs for Maces based builds? I assume Herald of Ash

[dawn condor]

maces

[still rock]

not enough info, there arent any spirit gems that do anything explicitly for maces alone

but if youre going armor then you want to find a way to break armor and get scavenged plating

[viscid hollow]

Ițm leveling a HOTG Chronomancer Mace build in SSF

Yeah I believe I will go scavanged plating for clearing overall, not much need in bosses for it but w/e I donțt want to have wasted spirit

[still rock]

berserk probably

if youre using rage

and overwhelming presence is nice for bossing

stun more

[viscid hollow]

Yeah I see that, oh well, I will play around and find out I guess

[dawn condor]

charging up that mace skill up just to get stunned

https://tenor.com/view/rage-keyboard-what-is-your-problem-green-smash-gif-18195947

[still rock]

everyone sleeping on flat stun threshold

on booties and belt

[viscid hollow]

Since we can no longer get them back to back I donțt think itțs so much value anymore, but yeah I can see the value in that

Ah you meant as a stat on gear, I thought you meant on bosses

[astral badger]

I’ve been using the T16 version of this build: https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/hutch-cryoshock-stormweaver

im having a lot of success in T16 maps/bosses, but I’m not using as much with Blasphemy, as I like casting Hypothermia myself. Am I wrong in thinking I could use that extra spirit to use cast on shock alongside cast on freeze for some interesting tech? Since lightning warp is shocking entire screens.

[tacit lichen]

is increased spell damage just another "increased" modifier, or does it modify the base spell damage before increases?

[still rock]

looks like they are using CoF in the guide

for BL

[still rock]

former

[astral badger]

Yes, but can’t I also use cast on shock in a different slot??

Or can you only use one type of cast on x skill?

[still rock]

from what i can gather the shock is coming from shocked ground which i dont think is reliable enough energy for CoS if it works as energy generation at all

from this build specifically

[astral badger]

Ah that makes sense

[still rock]

but the LW shocked ground tech is very good

i used it even for ED contagion

[astral badger]

Yeah it’s pretty phenomenal. I’m just brainstorming how I could change the build since I’m not using that blasphemy/enfeeble/hypothermia tech the guide recommends

Bc I like choosing where hypothermia goes

[still rock]

fair

i mean grim feast

is insane

so probably take that

[astral badger]

Doesn’t grim feast not work with MOM/eldritch/CI?

[tacit lichen]

And also, where does "x% of damage added as extra y damage" calculated? Is it added to the "base spell damage" from the skill gem and then increased? Does % increased spell dmg increase it? Or only things that directly scale "y"?

[still rock]

the tree here isnt any of those unless im missing something

[astral badger]

The T16 version uses all 3

[still rock]

its a form of conversion:
https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Conversion

[cyan plinth]

Whats more valuable on a maul/slam build?
+240 physical DPS
or
+6 to melee skills

[still rock]

but to answer your question, it takes inc dmg into account as that happens after conversion

[still rock]

ah my b i havent used mobalytics a lot

then nvm grim feast is useless there

[astral badger]

Np. I appreciate your replies. I’ll do some more brainstorming

[still rock]

blas enfeeble still strong

if you want to manually cast hypothermia then you can just take blas enfeeble temp chains

as an option

[cyan plinth]

Comparing:
541 phys DPS
+0 to melee skills

vs

301 phys DPS
+6 to melee skills

[still rock]

there isnt a stat in the game that adds dps like that so i assume you mean taking a mace with +6 or a mace that has 240 higher pdps

and in that case the latter most likely

[cyan plinth]

I listd them one way, you did the other way. Is the DPS or the +6 better?

[amber wharf]

So I got a shield that gives 39% increased cooldown recovery rate but it didnt reduce the cooldown on my Blink spell. Is there something im doing wrong?

[thorny token]

depends on your skill

not every melee skill scales the same with levels

but the 541 dps is gonna be pretty much aways better

[still rock]

i answered your question in a roundabout way because it was cryptic, but you can try asking more pointedly on a straight up comparison between what skill youre using instead of being passive aggressive

[thorny token]

because i cant think of melee skill that gets 80% more damage from 6 levels

as on averagethey get around 5-6% more damage per level

usually

[cyan plinth]

Stampede > Hammeer of the Gods > Sunder. In order of what i use most

[cyan plinth]

Sorry wasnt trying to be rude, i was just confused, my bad

[thorny token]

yea then its not even close the pdps one is way better

without the +lvl

hammer gets around 56% more damage with 6 levels, stampede only like 35%

and the difference between 301 and 540 is 80% more damage

https://poe2db.tw/us/Hammer_of_the_Gods for future reference check scaling per level here

in table at bottom

[cyan plinth]

Got it, thank you man. Luckily thats the one i currently have. Ill continue to hunt one with both for the time being

[distant pilot]

Would you guys keep saving for flickerstriek gemling or just go the actual monk route lol

[still rock]

@thorny token whats optimal for withering touch applicator as poison pf, helping an irl friend

[thorny token]

depends on what hes playing

eow is fine, rain of arrows is fine

[still rock]

sounds like generic poison bow skill stuff

[thorny token]

anything that isnt dark effigy and hits a lot is fine xd

dark effigy is actual dogshit so that one is to be avoided

[still rock]

roger

[thorny token]

i personally used my bonestorm as wither applicator as well

[vast plaza]

How do Ammo Conservation and Reusable Ammunition interact with each other? Both of them say x% chance for crossbow attack to not consume a bolt.

[viral crag]

In general, or for pf? 👀

[still rock]

its good for chao dot build imo

but thats different since you have cast speed

[viral crag]

Was going to say, that's been amazing for me. Would have been curious to learn the downsides/alternatives.

[thorny token]

in general

but yea if you are caster

its way better

for attack build its actual misery

[still rock]

Dark effigy needs cast speed

really bad

lots of it

[viral crag]

Confused why to say "in general" then 😅

[thorny token]

even on caster i would rather use eow as its way better

or firestorm even