2┃build-planning

[snow sierra]

alot of CI builds do Icebreaker

[bold pulsar]

I see

What NPC do I annoint at?

[sterile pebble]

yo which one is better this https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/2a24t0br or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87vFSy5j7QY&t=565s?

[clear sluice]

Rich click ire

[snow sierra]

Reinforced barrier is kinda cheap too for easy es

[clear sluice]

Any ideas about gemling defences?

[thorny token]

i would trust ventrua more

[viscid sorrel]

i figured it out, I was thinking the acrobatics point makes it so i now have 100% evasion on strikes and proj but im now realizing its description just means evade now dodges all hits rather than just proj and strikes

[thorny token]

even though hes not using clerics in that setup so uuh

🤷‍♂️

[snow sierra]

i wouldnt trust both

[thorny token]

doesnt ghazzy have some infernalist minion setup

im sure he does

[clear sluice]

Don't trust any build makers. Look at their tree, look at their gems. Find the good bits. Test stuff. Minions are bit complex for anyone to be a good builder 🙂

[snow sierra]

GhazzyTV early guides on youtube are kinda ok, cant recommend the later onse tho because they are insanely exepnsive

[clear sluice]

Ghazzy doesn't offspec 😦

Offmeta

[thorny token]

ghazzy just pours money into builds when they stop working :d

its what he always did in poe1 too

[snow sierra]

off meta = you just need more currency to make your build work

ye

because of that his early guides where he has no money are good

and now that he has money he is doing "offmeta" stuff that only works well with alot of money

[clear sluice]

He ran with ugly specters in necropolis. No style.

[thorny token]

only minion build i liked in poe1 was fang

theres no fang in poe2 so i like 0 minion builds in poe2

[clear sluice]

Either way, minions in Poe2 is work in progress. I will trust whoever excludes infernalist and snipers 🙂

[snow sierra]

well you are just wrong

and will grief any new player in recommenting that

[clear sluice]

I didn't make any statement

[thorny token]

infernalist will still be best minion ascendancy most likely even when it will get nerfed

[snow sierra]

not sure if minions will get more nerfs

[thorny token]

well not minions but the infernalist ES setups

are very likely to get nerfed

[clear sluice]

From what I have seen, it has the hound going for it. I would go offmeta ascendancy for minions

[snow sierra]

ES is likely to get nerfed

My bet would be grim feast and conversion items

[thorny token]

yea issue is that other ascendancies have nothing at all

[snow sierra]

so infernalist will be the most unaffected by that

[thorny token]

for minions

[clear sluice]

Northbound defenses are plenty without infernalism

[snow sierra]

i do minion chronomancer

it works

[clear sluice]

I want to go stormweaver Shockburst 🙂

[snow sierra]

ofc i have to spend abit more here and there since i get no dmg support from the ascendency

But minions dont need help from ascendency for dmg tbh

[thorny token]

i hope templar will have some actual minion focused stuff

or ally at least

as it makes most sense on templar anyway

and not on witch

[clear sluice]

No weapon does afaik 🙂

I mean, no weapon specific nodes. If I count minions as a weapon.

[snow sierra]

they said there will be no "minion" only ascendency like in poe 1

[thorny token]

well aura ascendancy isnt minion only

but it works well for minions :d

like guardian would still fit the no minion only ascendancy

[lucid wren]

cast on shock kinda sucks low level, it gets much stronger as you level i asume? i was seeing people in vids having it fire off every cast

[thorny token]

while also being perfect minion ascendancy at same time

[thorny token]

well it gets stronger when your shocks get more reliable

but it being strong while clearing was nerfed

on bosses its very reliable tho

when you are actually shocking

[lucid wren]

oh, so is orb pop metta now?

[thin basin]

just finally got some monie and now checking these item upgrade prices

[snow sierra]

divs beeing nearly at 100ex is insane

[clear sluice]

Anyway. Need some tips for good gemling defence tech. I don't trust evasion/es hybrid is worth the cost.

[thin basin]

60 spirit 400 es chest 4d mystonk

[clear sluice]

Gemling i ment gemling. Stupid autocorrect

[patent terrace]

For mercs whats the best base armor type to look for? were not close to energy shield passive nodes, but isnt es best right now?

[clear sluice]

ES needs investment and I don't trust evasion into ES is good at all for gemling atleast

[thorny token]

there arent rly many options you either go acro or go eva/es, your only other option beside that is int stack howa and take es on the way lul and still be eva/es

[manic oar]

Eva/ES lifestack, go ghostwrap?

[thorny token]

but like if you go acro + electrocute its fine imo

or freeze

you will live through most stuff you have very good access to ailment nodes as merc

[clear sluice]

I'm currently Shockburst explo shot

[thorny token]

yea then invest into freeze

[manic oar]

Been debating a pure-chaos build, using the unique quiver to freeze and electrocute

[thorny token]

howa with osin and the chaos quiver should be very good build imo

[cunning night]

ok lets see how far i can take my witch in ssf hc

[thorny token]

but without osin the quiver is pretty much unusable

[clear sluice]

howa?

[thorny token]

hand of wisdom and action

[cunning night]

is there any nodes i need to rush for infernalist witch summoner

[snow sierra]

the minion res timer are kinda important

And ES on hc ofc

[clear sluice]

Oh ye those gloves might be good for many builds atm 🙂

[manic oar]

Or, you know, grab a Cultist Bow and focus pure chaos?

[cunning night]

scattershot martial temp should help alot for my arsonist

[thorny token]

not possible

there is no flat chaos prefix

and you cant scale the chaos on cultist bow in any way

[supple jay]

I can't summon infernal hound in demon form?

[thorny token]

unlike phys bow or ele bows that actually have useful affixes

[manic oar]

Phys prefix works for the quiver, osin makes it easier to build, but I bet there's a way to do it...

[thorny token]

yea at 20% value baseline. osin is only way to makeit actually playable

and like osin is cheap anyway

at elast for how rare it is

3 divs for osin is absolute robbery

[analog patrol]

what can i put in "into the breach" support gems?

[manic oar]

True true... any idea if osin breaks CI?

[thorny token]

it does not

ci just makes you immune to chaos, your chaos res doesnt matter

[clear sluice]

Does anyone know if auto reload fills the clip or begins reload timer

[manic oar]

Sooo... osin downside is officially not a downside. Gotcha

[thorny token]

yea and almost all bosses in the game have 0 chaos res

(while having capped ele resistances)

so osin is very strong item

ppl just dont know that bosses have 0 chaos res so its cheap, for now

[manic oar]

Yeah, that honestly just makes it BIS for most builds...

[clear sluice]

Only bis if you want.

[vestal verge]

can the same projectile roll crit multiple times when it chains? it doesnt seem to be the case with eye of winter

[thorny token]

only "persistent" tagged skills can roll crit multiple times

everything else rolls crit only once

its in the tooltip

[vestal verge]

o

[thin basin]

for EB purposes flat ES on accessories is like 1 es = 1 mana right?

[manic oar]

Now I'm debating Slam Legionnaire with osin/howa...

[vestal verge]

wait which one

[open gulch]

Guys, i want second weapon for curse. Which weapon would be the best for casting curse? Also i want change nodes for curse.

[thorny token]

i meant sustained my bad

[vestal verge]

ah

[soft latch]

I have two support gems crafted, And it shows different value in requirements? What does it mean ?

[shut rose]

Can I use a lvl3 support gem to make a lvl2 support skill?

[thin basin]

db pls answer before i make this impulse purchase

[thorny token]

yea 1 base es = 1 base mana from item

[analog kiln]

hey guys im level 50 now and i got like 100 exalts i could spent , i need some gear because the mobs starts to get pretty hard ( im curle act 1 ) could somone help me a bit ? i dont know what gear i should buy#

[vestal verge]

so i guess if i wanted to proc cold elemental storm i could just take CotB with ball lightning

[thorny token]

oh but on acessories idk

yea also

[vestal verge]

what happens if you take them out of your stash?

[thin basin]

not bad upgrade

going from +1 and nothing

[thorny token]

is that rare amulet, on mana build? smh my head

[snow sierra]

the div inflation is insane, it nearly rises faster then can make ex....

[thorny token]

jsut get more rarity so you drop divs instead of ex

problem solved

[soft latch]

in inventory they show different value. After socketing and taking out both, now they showing the same value. OK, must have been some bug

[snow sierra]

i have as mutch rarity as i can affort

[vestal verge]

yeah thats what i suspected

[snow sierra]

160%

[clear sluice]

Any known armour break/heavy stun crossbow tech?

Looking at high velocity rounds

[thorny token]

corrosion on gas nade is ok

[clear sluice]

Saved

Does "consumed" consume every hit in a scattershot or only the first?

Erm. I would assume consumed effects are resolved before any 2ndary hits happen from the same skill.

Melee solves this with aftershock afaik

[quiet nova]

Is there a skill or unique that replenishes mana on a critical, or a hit?

maybe a passive?

[analog kiln]

hey guys im level 50 now and i got like 100 exalts i could spent , i need some gear because the mobs starts to get pretty hard ( im curle act 1 ) could somone help me a bit ? i dont know what gear i should buy#

[snow sierra]

just see that you dont spend more then one ex until you know what you are doing

per pice

[analog kiln]

yeah but i die instantly when i try to progress

and i have no clue what i need

[snow sierra]

did you fix your res ?

[subtle gust]

Hey guys, question here. Running a monk now and I'm in love with the Ice Strikes skill. Is it better to have a quarterstaff with all Physical Damage or a mixture of physical and cold Dmg?

[snow sierra]

like 75% to all

that would be the first step to get more surviability

[analog kiln]

how do i do that

just buy armor to have the resitances?

[snow sierra]

yes

[analog kiln]

hm

gonna try that

[snow sierra]

you should get good ones easly

[analog kiln]

thank you for helping me 🙂

[snow sierra]

like i said

[cunning night]

does persistance work with unearth making the summons laster longer?

[snow sierra]

dont

spend

more then one 1ex

[analog kiln]

of course

[snow sierra]

dont get baited if you need to spend more you just look on a diffrent slot

[waxen mica]

what's the best way to solve my mana issues? I've got a cast on crit build that casts a lot during boss fights
I just run out of mana in like 2 seconds

I've got like 10 div to spare

[analog kiln]

ill try thanks

[lucid thunder]

I’m level 70 and I have like 18 exalts.. how do you have so many?

[analog kiln]

dropped a divine

[lucid thunder]

Ah

[waxen mica]

Step 1: get lucky

[snow sierra]

look at the helpful guides, there is one to buy items cheaply

[lucid thunder]

Yeah, I can’t do that step

[snow sierra]

or do a cheap strong build and farm reliable stuff

but tbh the econemy is breaking more and more

like i can hardly see someone starting now making good currency without abused luck or knowledge

[balmy snow]

do ally buffs apply to summons?

[snow sierra]

yes

[wild stirrup]

do the different staves matter beyond elemental type if i dont care about the granted skill?

[snow sierra]

Minions are your allys, but minions do not see you as an ally for whatever reason

[ornate eagle]

Based on my limited experience, no. Also I think wand + focus gives more stats than a staff (in theory).

[royal hamlet]

its defensive?

[snow sierra]

yes ? and its good, not sure what exactly are you asking ?

[royal hamlet]

is it 25% of fire resist? how do you calculate that? xD

[snow sierra]

its 25% of your armour applys to fire now

[royal hamlet]

25% from 1700 armor is 425 for me now

sooo

-425 dmg ?

[snow sierra]

the armour forumlar is kinda complyicated

so no

tdlr, the bigger the hit the less you will feel that talent

the smaller the hit the stronger it gets

[royal hamlet]

25% of estimated armour?

[snow sierra]

and yes like you said 425 armour would apply that would be something like 10% in SOME cases

[royal hamlet]

complicated, you mean its good? ill think about it

[stuck peak]

for pconc it's generally recommended to take Traveller's Wisdom on the 4th ascendency right? should focus on improving poison spread and 2x poison stacks first?

[snow sierra]

its strong, if you have alot of armour

[royal hamlet]

well i play wrior i will 😄

[frosty arrow]

if this had +to proj skills it would've been almost perfect. But man, it quite literally tripled my damage compared to my previous crossbow. I just started mapping on my grenadier, and I've had same crossbow from like lvl40. What a difference

I'm trying it against few other crossbows with a bit lower raw damage, but +6 to skills and this wins. Just on numbers

[pallid cave]

hey.. is armor and evasion useless in this game? or at what point does it become good ? [if ever]

[snow sierra]

No and No, armour is in a "bad" spot at the very endgame, evasion is kinda ok, for both of them you want kinda alot

[pallid cave]

hm..asking 'cause for example lachlann of endless lament ( the boss in cemetery act 1 - cruel difficulty ) deals A LOT of damage even tho i have [i would say..pretty good armor and evasion ]

[snow sierra]

for the campain

the best defensive stat is health

life on gear

And later res

you dont care about anything else while leveling in the defense deparment

[modern tangle]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/lightning-arrow-farmer-fubgun?widgets-state=eyJmN2Q4MjEwMi03ZTc3LTRhNDQtYWQyNC0zM2I2N2U4YWU3YmYiOnsiZmlsdGVycyI6eyJhY3RpdmVWYXJpYW50SWQiOiJhZDgxYjEzZi0zNzAxLTQ0NjAtOTNlMS1kZjVkNDkyOTQ0OTkifSwidHlwZW5hbWUiOiJOZ2ZEb2N1bWVudENtV2lkZ2V0Q29udGVudFZhcmlhbnRzVjEifX0

I am really trying to understand the reason for the gem selection here in the uber endgame section on herald of thunder and ice.

What is the point of going Cold Infusion on Thunder and Lightning Infusion on Ice? Both support Gems reduce the corresponding damage nature massively

[pallid cave]

i see.. thanks for info.. feels weird to have so much armor and when you fight to literally feel like it doesn't matter .. hope they do something about it

[surreal dragon]

so that it allows them to do the opposing elemental ailment so that they chain off one another

[grizzled mortar]

any gemling mercs running tempest flurry / storm wave, try arbiter on higher difficulty?

[snow sierra]

doubt it, it was allways that way Life/ES is allways the first line of defense you have to get everything else comes after that

[flat island]

hi! question, do you think the spark stormweaver build would work on chronomancer? i'd be missing out on the arcane surge which is massive but i can compensate for that elsewhere

[modern tangle]

and mathematically that ends up as a DPS increase, although you reduce their damage by 50%? Well, I guess it would be a 25% decrease since you gain 25% in the other element but still

[flat island]

i chose chrono when i wasn't aware of the meta

[snow sierra]

yes it works

but it will be worse

you can compensate with money

[wet mango]

You can't evade aoe

[thin basin]

dont have to miss out on surge if u just put it in the sockets

[wet mango]

Not additive like that. Gain as is conversion while less is less

[surreal dragon]

not really for dmg, it's for clear speed

[pallid cave]

@wet mango i mean ..yea but armor a lot too .. i don't know.. just having a stat meaning so little feels weird

but i get it tho.. so thanks for infos XD

[snow sierra]

it means alot, early on, but if you get what 30% less dmg on 0 life you still die

[wet mango]

Armour is for defense against small hits. Big hits make armour less efffective

[snow sierra]

Life/ES is just a way stronger defense and needs to be the first step any character takes

[modern tangle]

would you still play it that way against a pinnacle boss? Probably not? I mean the whole Herald loudout, seems like they're not needed on bosses

[thin basin]

herald doesnt do anything in bosses

but at that "uber endgame" they dont last 5 seconds anyway

[wet mango]

They won't trigger

[modern tangle]

yea thats what I was thinking now as well, there are no minions on these encounters right?

[surreal dragon]

I'd be too lazy to swap them out anyways

[modern tangle]

alright got it, thanks yall

[tight spade]

I need some help with my Invoker, Im not sure how much evasion and es im looking for. Im lv78 and trying to get flicker to work

But I don't know how much is "enough" like 300 ev and 100es etc for a helmet

[jade viper]

Why can't i place this jewel socket

[thin basin]

because its not allocated

[jade viper]

how i allocate it lil bro

[sterile ruin]

it takes a talent point

[thin basin]

level up and put point in it

[jade viper]

ah ok thank you

[fossil frigate]

Okay I'm new here in low level like 15 or something... wee question..

How/can I increase the level of weapon or armour items.

I'm trying to work out what is best (easiest), leveling up "low level" legendary gear or buying "high level" rare stuff.

[thin basin]

porcupine somehow still in competition among top worst mob type #1 being that armoured guy with the shield that shoot stuff and blocks everything for some reason

[fiery wave]

can someone show me a detonate dead tree?

[fossil frigate]

For example I have these legendary boots at lvl 2 on, my character is level 15.

Do you tend to buy higher level gear to replace them, or focus on levelling legendary gear more?

[tacit cliff]

Is there a way to convert about 40% phys to cold? Playing galvanic shards shock burst ranger and it would be really nice freezing things as well

[gleaming trout]

how does inevitable crit work with tempest bell?

[edgy maple]

I have 1 more point, which one should i go with

[gleaming trout]

(is the increased crit chance snapshotted)

[alpine kettle]

Why am i getting rage on my monk ? "Get rage on hit" is on my siphoning strike. But i never use siphoning strike

[frosty arrow]

tempest bell deals damage on it's own when you drop it. I'd imagine inevitable crit affects that

[alpine kettle]

Are support gems connected to every skill that can use that support gem ?

[edgy maple]

Im using spark as main spell

[tacit cliff]

No, something else is giving you rage

[static plinth]

They are unique, not legendary
You have to constantly replace your gear
Ideally you want Rares; Uniques are always the same no matter the level you get them at. You cant upgrade them

[gleaming trout]

yeah but like is the inc crit snapshotted

for the shockwaves

[frosty arrow]

what do you mean? I honestly doubt it affects shockwaves. And if it does I'd imagine each wave is treated individually

[fossil frigate]

@static plinth thanks

[alpine kettle]

thank you. Found it. I have red gem in tree with rage on hit

[frosty arrow]

but I don't know for sure. If bell critting applied instant crits to all shockwaves too bell would be beyond broken

[thin basin]

Double shock 👍

[edgy maple]

really ? why not crit

[thin basin]

Because 12% crit is like .8% whatever for spark and double shock is probably 30% more damage

[bold pulsar]

@fiery wave Looking much better now

Got this instead of flame cloak

[fossil frigate]

Is my logic right here ... you can't level up unique items

but you can modify rare items with rods and stuff and then eventually transform it into a unique item.

but you can modify rare items with orbs and stuff and then eventually transform it into a unique item.

[shell trellis]

Anyone playing LIghtning arrow deadeye know when you unlock magnetic salvo what skill is best to replace with it?

[frosty arrow]

there's really no such thing as leveling up items, that's not exactly how it works

you can improve items in variety of ways, but they're always based on an item of normal rarity with certain fixed parameters

[frank python]

Does PERSISTENCE increase the duration of Charged Staff on monk, because in the card there is still 6 sec duration per power charge?

[frosty arrow]

there's not a whole lot you can do with unique items. You can increase their quality, add rune slots and put runes in them, and you can corrupt them for variety of desirable or very undesirable outcomes

with uniques what you see is what you get, pretty much. Some of them translate into late game, many don't

[wet mango]

Can't do that

[frosty arrow]

it's just coming from other games people may be under the impression that uniques are highest rarity of items in the game. As in - they're the best. But it's really not the case. It's in the name. They're not legendary, or mythic tier or whatever. They are unique. Handcrafted items with unique effects. They can be bad, they can be good

[fiery wave]

yeah they are unique because they have unique effects

most of them at least

like they basically added 268 buildaround options and you can figure out which one might be worht a shot

[fossil frigate]

Sweet

[snow sierra]

ye but to be fair some of the uniques a very dissapionting compared to poe1

like way more absolulty useless filler uniques

[fiery wave]

liek the stat scaling stick, when i saw that day 1 i knew someone will make a broken build from it

as its limitless stat scaling

i think they are just generally underpowered

i have like 70 of themn and i think most of them are really cool

but none of them are worth using

but ig uess its imposisble to make most of them good

i also think most of them would work on in a way that they suck and you buff them and they and so on and at some point it just flip flops from not viable to breakign the game

[charred gate]

it does work, if you consume one charge the buff will tick down from 8 seconds. (i don't know if the buff appears on the top of the screen by default, you may have to enable this setting if doenst)

[fiery wave]

btw. i tried the self damage node on infernalist extensively and its just too unpredictable

after like 10h of math and testing i jsut went back to more or less the original build lol

now i gotta build map stock back up

[wet mango]

We only have the low tier bases

[frank python]

Where is this option - how it's called?

[thin basin]

Have you tried activating it and see if it shows up and the time increases?

[broken ridge]

how much bow dps i can get with 1-5divs? around 370dps?

[subtle timber]

Hey new to this game, i am trying to buy a bow, but i dont know what is too much exalted orbs, anyone who is deadeye ranger lightning taht can help :/

[unique mirage]

What unique belt would you universally recommend for a sorceress?

[hidden ingot]

Hello everyone how do I get power charges for my Charged staff without using combat frenzy and that one node? I just entered endgame and looked up some builds where no one used combat frenzy for their staff to charge and I was wondering how they do it

[thin basin]

Depend on base, and what people are selling

[timid aurora]

i assume Crossbow just isn't that good? I have not seen a single endgame buidl where it does remotely what other weaopns can. and is squishy

[thin basin]

If youre low level, 1 or 2 ex is good enough for a leveling bow for higher its as much as you can spend

[thin basin]

Theres a spell where it consume corpse to give you power charge, the other option is power siphon or whatever the skill is called

[timid aurora]

grenade nerf seems like it was very poorly thought out

[subtle timber]

I am lvl 79 soon, but i dont know which bow gives me alot of damage, could yoyu help me 😦

[hidden ingot]

Okok thank u

[thin basin]

Have you checked out stat stacking xbow builds?

[thin basin]

Go on trade site, put in bows, put top limit amount youre willing to spend, sort by dps

[timid aurora]

is there a video link

[fiery wave]

rofl i needed to ameliorate my build r&d

sold my invitation to the king

[thin basin]

https://youtu.be/O7YC5j9ETH0?si=3vmKE1ziAsIsdqFr
ofc its not gonna 1 shot but assume all 1 shot build will be nerfed once ggg comes back

[fiery wave]

2x damage 😮 2x defense 😮

[grizzled mortar]

😮

[snow sierra]

Tier 1 play now strongst build in the game

Dont miss out on this trick !

Only 100divs 😄

[edgy maple]

what is fork and what is chain
which one is better for spark ?

[limber shale]

I just bricked my mercenary after spending atleast 2 days going through all the acts and cruel mode

[carmine sandal]

if I annoint an amulet, can I overwrite it later with a different annoint?

[snow sierra]

yes

[frosty arrow]

why bricked. The only permanent choice is ascendancy

[carmine sandal]

sweet, thanks 😄

[fiery wave]

i dont get shit to drop in delirium

[vast egret]

if i chill + freeze an enemy and have the passive that gives 15% to each ailment do i get a 30% damage boost?

[fiery wave]

i did a whole map t15 and got 4 base level oils

also im out of maps

[snow sierra]

I stopped mapping

its just not worth it for me

[fiery wave]

well im only out because i died like 6 times in 8 maps trying to improve the build

i still think its fun

i wanna finish the atlas

[random moat]

question, is it better to go for attribute increases or just the stat increases?

[snow sierra]

but well ~60ex per hour needs to do

for now for me

[fiery wave]

but i dont play arpgs so if i palyed years of poe1 i might be done too

[snow sierra]

i will put abit more effort in to find out how to make more in maps when i have the time^^

[fiery wave]

i dont really care about currency i just wanna do all the challenges

i have this one lvl 80 logbook

i jsut demand it drop a map

[edgy maple]

any1 know

[fast skiff]

what do yall think about blood mage spark compared to stormweaver spark? Can getting to like 80% crit chance offset the insane stormweaver arcane surge and double shock bonuses?

[snow sierra]

I think you die

from casting

in later progression levels

[thin basin]

dont waste ring slot on that just use these points instead

[fast skiff]

idk I saw this and I don't know what he's saying but he seems to be managing alright https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be2R1BSLJ2E

[karmic goblet]

what is the second venom i take for stormweaver? attributes or chaos res

[charred gate]

are you sure this doesn't appear at the top? i disabled some interface options but they always stays there

[fast skiff]

you probably wanna go CI so if anything just leave it until you're sure about your build later

[frank python]

it does, now i see it. Ty for help

[karmic goblet]

ci?

[fast skiff]

chaos innoculation

[thin basin]

spark bloodmag eshouild be fine as long as youre not archmage

[snow sierra]

You cant go CI, you have to sovle the expotenial mana cost of spellvl scaling, it can work but its risky

[thin basin]

will need to immediately go into crit

[limpid plover]

Anybody try putting enfeeble into blasphemy for just 30% damage reduction?

[snow sierra]

And if you dont use archemage your dmg can stuffer

[karmic goblet]

so attributes?

[snow sierra]

Its overall just a risky build that can break when you reach a point in your character progression because of the spellcost curve

If it dosnt break it will surely work but wont me as good as Elementalist

[proud horizon]

What’s the best monk build i just started my monk

[tiny brook]

anyone run explosive shot + shockburst rounds? does it hit enough times to make thief's torment a considerable option?

[copper idol]

What's the minium level for a tier 2 spirit gem?

[limpid plover]

I'm running this but no thief's torment

[fast skiff]

well, thats a tough question. The best monk is actually a mercenary, you go gemling and then get hands of wisdom and action and have like 500 int/dex and use pillar of the caged god and then delete the whole map with "melee attacks" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w05zJ2CGee0

[timid aurora]

looks sick. but i dont hav emuch currency yet that looks pricey

i guesss ill stick with poison ranger until its bug fixed 😄

[limpid plover]

I'd say that be decent for leveling but thief's torment taking away a ring slot is too big a price to pay. You want it for the life gain?

[tiny brook]

yeah, seems to be decent sustain if you can make use of it

[inland pelican]

What are the best builds right now for Witchhunter, no grenades?

[civic kiln]

guys, some tips to use this? something to prevent elemental damage?

trying to insert in bloodmage build

[fast skiff]

thats a terrible item why would you even want to build around it

[edgy maple]

how does people move so fast while casting spark

[thin basin]

theres a unique chest make armour applies to elemental damage

[thin basin]

good cast speed and movespeed

and/or mobility support make you glide

[tiny brook]

actually do you know of any sources of leech I could have on the build?

[fast skiff]

the problem with that is the armor formula for poe2 is worthless and there's no version of that where you're gonna live

[tiny brook]

im not too familiar with crossbow/ele damage leech in poe2 rn

[thin basin]

theres phys life and mana leech

not much else

[tiny brook]

gotcha

so thief's torment would be the only avenue or regenning life/mana pots

[limpid plover]

Is it just for survivability and what level are you?

[tiny brook]

t15 mapping/bossing

don't really think I'd buy a 2 div ring for leveling 👀

[quiet nova]

Does anyone here have the Svalinn shield? I want to test a build theory

PM me if you do

[inland pelican]

#2┃build-planning message xD

[proud horizon]

Can i do the build with only hands of wisdom and pillar of the caged god?

[fiery wave]

im turning this game into elden ring

orloth the third took me close to 10 minutes

[limpid plover]

What's your HP pool look like?

[twilit obsidian]

what would be a good belt for a ranger

[fast skiff]

I don't think so, also at this point we don't know if the stat-stack builds like that are going to get nerfed, or if hands of wisdom is going to get nerfed since it's making multiple builds crazy rn. If you want to actually play monk going invoker and focusing on ice skills is a safe bet

[fiery wave]

one that doesnt break in bad weather

[quiet nova]

Do meta skill have cooldown?

or is it purely based on energy gain

[thin basin]

energy, but mana is usually the limiter

[snow sierra]

i wouldnt bet money on it getting nerfed

[near jewel]

guys, is there any piece of gear that gives +1 to number of totems?

[thin basin]

dont think so?

[mortal gate]

Guys, a +6 in all melee skills with 526 DPS is better than a +2 in all melee with 585 DPS?

For a Two Handed mace

[snow sierra]

i think melee skills are not important for most attack skills other then totems, but not to sure

[pearl sluice]

whats up with bonestorm mana cost? says lvl 21 should cost 78, instead it costs 170+170 life
This is without any support gems.
Wtf? 😄

[mortal gate]

Oh, I understand

[pearl sluice]

it seems like if i add faster casting, it increases the mana cost, even though its a channeling skill

[median kraken]

Why would it being a channeling skill gave to do with it?

[median kraken]

I assume you're a blood mage and that's where the life cost is coming from

[rapid wadi]

whats the minimum you can have to achieve demonform sustain?

[mystic shard]

minus flat 25% of 25% of their crit?

[pearl sluice]

yeah, but still its only lvl 21 skill, and costs 250 mana with support gems, and if u push it higher to like lvl 27 or so, it will what like 800 mana cost? 😄

it seems crazy

[snow sierra]

Mana cost gets kinda creazy

when you push gem level

[pearl sluice]

how do u suppose to mana regen it? theres not even spell mana leech

i dont get it

[snow sierra]

alot of ppl use archemage and mana stack, bloodmages often opt into just using detonate death cause you can use a level 7 skill on that

[surreal dragon]

25% reduced chance, additive with any sources of increased% crit the enemy has

[mystic shard]

So flat 25% (so if enemy has 15% it's 0%?)

Or not?

or if they had 10%, it'd be 7.5% crit they have?

[surreal dragon]

if there nothing else affecting crit, it'd be 75% of base

[scarlet oasis]

Is there a certain passive on merc that makes grenades do dmg on bosses because I do 0 dmg against rares and bosses, the build I'm following does fine on adds

[mystic shard]

ok thx

[median kraken]

Yeah, mana costs are pretty crazy. I went Archmage on my fireball just because I invested enough into mana just for mana sustain that I figured I may as well add Archmage into the build at that point

[brave furnace]

how much armor break do i need to start break the armor of bosses?

[thin basin]

any amount

as long as youre doing phys damage and have "% damage as armor break"

[brave furnace]

@thin basin do you see what i am doing wrong?

i keep getting the armor icon on the boss to yellow but never red so its taking so long to kill the last act 2 boss

[thin basin]

i see you have a lot of "break % increased armour", are you using armor break support gem?

[brave furnace]

yeah i have the armor break gem on my basic attacks

and im spamming basics the whole time

[thin basin]

this?

[brave furnace]

oh no i dont have that

[thin basin]

then theres your issue

iirc only way to reliably break armor early/mid is the stun support or armour break skill

[scarlet oasis]

Is there any way to improve boss dmg on grenade merc?

[brave furnace]

iirc?

[primal delta]

im new to poe i was wondering what is the best weapon setup for poe2 sorc?. do i run 2 staffs? stafff and a wand? im so confused

[thin basin]

if i remember correctly

[thin basin]

staff is 2h, wand is 1h but you cant dual wield wand so you can pick either a sceptre or a shield or a focus

[tidal copper]

You can poison with your basic attack and use corrosion for armour

[thin basin]

ppl usually go wand + shield for defense or wand + focus for more dmg

[brave furnace]

why doesnt the build i have doesnt show that spell at all

this made my build start working again!

[thin basin]

which one cant you find?

[brave furnace]

i found the splinter support gem and put it on my auto attacks and the build works now

but im wondering why the guide i was using didnt say to use it

[thin basin]

because they assume youre using the stun gem probably

[brave furnace]

stun gem?

[thin basin]

this one

that or armor break skill in ancestral warrior totem

[brave furnace]

dang maybe thats it

[shrewd kernel]

Can anyone explain Crit and Crit Dmg breakpoints to me? How much do I need to invest in each?

[quiet nova]

Does a taunt skill exist?

Provoking enemies to attack you

[bold pulsar]

Man

I have no ex for slamming this haha

[subtle gust]

How do I check my total crit chance and Dmg? It's nowhere in the char sheet

[quiet nova]

Check a skill you have equipped

It's in the additional info or whatever

[thin basin]

ive heard attack based char feels p good around 30% crit not sure about cdmg breakpoint

[subtle gust]

Found it. Such a stupid place for it to be. Lol

[quiet nova]

yeah it should be on your main char sheet lol

If you're going crit damage, check out those unique gloves that gives you a flat 300% crit damage

[shrewd kernel]

I'm rocking a Kitoko's build atm

[terse escarp]

How does slow work exactly? It reduces movement speed and attack speed Or just reduces the speed of all animations?

[terse escarp]

Wtf what gloves are those

[forest monolith]

is vitality or herbalisim life flask recov rate better on a warrior i already have some high rolls on 2 items i think but vitality is % and im 1559 life atm

till lvl 3 supports start to drop

[subtle gust]

Do you know what they are called?

[quiet nova]

checking

[fiery wave]

hrmpf i spent like 350 exalts trying to get a 5link gem

[quiet nova]

Notice the wording tho

It sets your crit damage bonus to 300%

I don't think it can be less, or greater than that

so no modifiers can increase it I believe

[subtle gust]

So pointless to invest in crit Dmg nodes

[quiet nova]

GGG is really specific about their wording

Correct

It sets your crit damage to 300%

[subtle gust]

I'll keep that in mind in case I find them.

[frozen pagoda]

Is it worth building into armour/evasion gear as merc or fully evasion? Heard some stinky things about armour so not sure if I should just go totally evasion

[quiet nova]

These gloves are really good though, they're about 1 div right now

[subtle gust]

So 50 ex? Is that the equivalent?

They look amazing, but I'm still early game on my monk.

[shrewd kernel]

I'd probably avoid armor for now

it's not terrible at blocking a lot of small hits, but it's useless for anything that actually deals dmg

[crisp wraith]

Is it possible to build an exploding palm esque monk?

[static plinth]

100ex

But yeah, Virtuosity is pretty strong

Good with guaranteed crits

[faint blaze]

Divine rate is out of control

Gone from like 15 ex to 75 down to 60 back to 100 now..wtf

[shrewd kernel]

blame rarity

[faint blaze]

And the amount of ppl that list items for 1-2 divines when they are worth nowhere near that are at fault mainly

[static plinth]

It was 1ex like 2 weeks ago 😭

[faint blaze]

Well that and super endgame juicers pumping the rate up

[wraith egret]

not its trade for showing those items before 20 ex items

[wet mango]

ther's no break points, more crit = more better

[faint blaze]

True that too

[frosty arrow]

perfect

[wet mango]

not really, crit is a per skill thing for sure

[thin basin]

omg 3rd citadel in 1 day

[faint blaze]

I wanna switch to a new lightning setup..but dreading how many divines it'll cost me lol

Shoulda done a week ago n coulda done for 500 ex
Now.gonna cost me.like 5000ex (50+ divine)

[calm roost]

does anyone know how to make dark effigy shoot projectiles at enemies affected by a curse? (despair)

I swear I used to be able to do this before but not the interaction doesnt work anymore

[cosmic arch]

Why is it when I go in to demon form my despair turns off ????

[wet mango]

do you have enough spirit?

[sharp kestrel]

do you need the stats form your weapon to have it active? you don't get weapon / shield benefits while in demon form

[cosmic arch]

Ye I have 127 spirit

[alpine dock]

whats best support gems for grim feast?

[wary wave]

Can I use Herald of Thunder with Ice Strike monk if I also take "I am the thunder"?

would the 10% of the damage be enough to apply shock to trigger the herald ?

[thin basin]

nothing, it just works by itself

[unique needle]

Quick question guys, does innervate give an additional 35% damage as lightning damage on killing a shocked enemy or does it simply convert physical damage to lightning damage?
so instead of 100 physical it's 65/35

[light dew]

on various build planner sites there are set 1 and set 2 24/24 skill points in the passive tree, whats up with that

[remote jungle]

Hey all, I'm building a stat stacking Titan with pillar of the caged god rn. I was wondering if anyone knew if percent physical damage runes on my weapon would out perform flat damage runes if I was using an all-physical damage skillm

[thin basin]

theyre using set points weapon features

[tame sequoia]

Question, if i use choir of the storm, it says crits ignore elemental resistances, so would it go into negative with lightning exposure or is it always at 0%?

[unreal girder]

what's the point in linking persistence to Emergency Reload if it only lasts one clip?

[thin basin]

additional

[unique needle]

got it, thanks!

[light dew]

are these additional on top of the 122 you are getting max?

[thin basin]

nope, youre basically using 24 of those 122 to spec different nodes

[light dew]

ah ok

ty

[faint blaze]

I have set on 1 for my Xbow and 2 for my bow.

And set the 24 skill points accordingly

So I have more nade talents on 1 and lightning on 2 for lightning arrow

[lone sleet]

So when I get a passive node say crit chance why doesn’t the crit chance on my stuff go up is this just a glitch or is there something I’m missing

[blissful stratus]

If I take avatar of fire, will my corrupted blood/bleeding damage also be converted to fire? and if yes, will that count as burning?

[spare quartz]

Is there a base damage increase for critical hits or only what's on your gear

[vestal vigil]

for a witchhunter grenade build, any suggestions on what stats I should be looking for in jewels? None of the build guides I've read have really covered jewel selection

[thin basin]

if youre using spell make sure it say critical hit or critical hit for spell and not attack, if you are, then sounds like a bug

[thin basin]

fire normally cant bleed unless youre bloodmage

[lone sleet]

Ya it just says “critical hit chance” I also noticed this with the “increased maximum energy shield” nodes

[quaint helm]

Where I can check builds ?

I want find OP one

[thin basin]

reddit if you want to find the most OP ones esp the ones on front page

[thin basin]

if you takes said node and this isnt going up, that sounds like a bug, wat skill are you using?

[quaint helm]

I am P2W noob

I Just want dam good looking shit

and pew pew

when i am bored

If anyone who knows good site to check the builds I will smile and wish you all the best

[analog patrol]

Please help me with build to improve it. https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/40605a65-ef32-42b8-a851-dcc4f334483e/builds/af0d8094-34fe-4d67-9489-81e1336713d2

[lone sleet]

I’m looking at all my skills but the main one I’m getting the crit chance for is corpse explosion

[thin basin]

DD? can u take screenshot of your tree and what nodes youre taking

[static plinth]

Decaying Hex support

[keen flower]

What determines the base damage for spells triggered by cast on x skills? Is it the currently equipped weapon or what?

[thin basin]

each spell have their own base damage

[plucky nacelle]

on the maxroll buildplanner, some lines are red and green on the passive skill tree. And on the top it says 20/20(red) and 20/20(green), what does this mean?

[shrewd oyster]

Where can i get a price check on an item? I listed a mace for 10ex and my dms are blown up

[lone sleet]

yes DD

[shrewd oyster]

no idea how much can i get for it, similliar ones are for 2-3ex

[thin basin]

someone really need to do a writeup on weapon point set lol

[plucky nacelle]

talking about this:

[thin basin]

looks good to me, and you say cc on skill isnt going up? take a cc point off, screenshot skill details, then put it back, screenshot skill details, def does sounds like a bug tho

[crisp timber]

whats the best breach/MF build?

[lone sleet]

ya both have it at 8%

[thin basin]

oh

[magic bramble]

can u increase the quality of a quiver?

[thin basin]

that numbers never change

you need to go into the details tab

click the arrow

[quaint helm]

What class is invoker ?

Monk ?

[thin basin]

yes

[thin basin]

weapon set point, can find it top right when pressing P

[upper ivy]

Build craft question about demon form infernalist:

I keep seeing build guides that spend passive points on damage nodes for "10% Increased spell damage" or "25% Increased elelemntal damage"

If "Increased" means additive, why would you waste any passive points on these nodes if two additional ticks of Demon form provide the same benefit (+16%x2). Is it better to just passive tree only defensive and aliment nodes and let Demon form do all the heavy lifting for damage?

[plucky nacelle]

Thanks, watching a video on it now.

[pearl sluice]

If you’re looking to do extreme damage fast and quick not much of a challenge to beat the game where should I go?

[thin basin]

because theres only so many defensive nodes on the tree top side without wasting points traveling

plus you still want some %increased

[pearl sluice]

I’m looking at mercenary, monk, or warrior because witch and sorceress I’m struggling to damage in act2

[primal quarry]

sorc switch to ice for early campaign, witch doesn't really get okay imo till act3 after that its ez

[naive cosmos]

Does general "critical hit chance" and "critical hit damage bonus" apply to spells as well as melee or does it have to have the "for spells" qualifier?

[thin basin]

those generic ones work for both attack and spells

[naive cosmos]

Thank you

[thin basin]

for specific itll mention either attack or spell

[blissful stratus]

If I have bleeding magnitude on both weapons and use HotG, will both magnitude increases apply at full strength, half strength each, or 70% strength each?

[lucid wren]

so whats a powerfull budget build for storm sorc i can start working towards?

[serene minnow]

anyone know if other party members see your grim feast remnants ?

[simple beacon]

guys i want some movement speed boots whats a good price for a good pair? and how to not scam myself

[crisp timber]

whats the best breach/mf build?

[thin basin]

spark

just costs your left kidney and a leg

[vast egret]

does this mean that if i chill + freeze i get a 30% damage boost?

[thin basin]

yea, hover over elemental ailment

[muted umbra]

If you use Choir of the Storm with Necromantic Talisman, will that allow your minions to trigger the granted lighting bolt? I'm trying to make that node work to make a minion build a little different than the fire minion spam I've been seeing so much of.

Additionally, can someone explain how skeletal clerics work? Do they have an attack or do they just res/heal and how much do they actually heal for?

[supple flower]

Hello. I was wondering on Concentrated Effect with Tempest Flurry. What exactly is downside? It's 40% more dmg but area is smaller but I didint see that on tooltip any suggestions what is smaller? Shock bolt? I saw that any of content maker use this skill with that gem. I wonder why?

[thin basin]

good damage, attack fast, faster combo

all good stuff

also conc effect might actually not buff anything damage wise im not sure if any of the attacks count as an aoe

[storm ice]

whats the quality on the breach rings do

[thin basin]

increases a set of stat by 50%

attribute, mana, life etc, but just one

[storm ice]

yeah but it says it increases stuff but my stats dont go up

[thin basin]

which stat are you trying to increase and what catalyst are you using?

[vast egret]

does that mean i will get the damage boost applied on the enemies the ailments are inflicted on, or on my char for the rest if the instance?

[thin basin]

u hit something, if they have ailment, u do more damage

[storm ice]

i dont think it is the same as the one you linked

[thin basin]

well 1% increased of 7% is, lets say make it not go to 8%

[storm ice]

so it only effects the stats on the ring, nothing else

[thin basin]

yes

[vast egret]

thank

[heady apex]

Is there a monk build that does something with lightning warp/ball lightning and maybe cast on crit?

[stoic silo]

How does shocked ground interact with skills that "consume shock"? Will shock be re-applied and every skill use benefit from the bonus?

[supple flower]

maybe its bug, because support skill said 40% more area dmg but when I put concetraded effect into tempest flurry i just get 40% more physical dmg on every hit according too tooltip

[teal spindle]

Should I focus on armor if I’m making an evasion build?

[thin basin]

sounds like it work just fine

[teal spindle]

Or should just target a specific amount?

[severe drum]

people pretty much ignoring armor until they rework it

people just going ev/es

block is also good

[teal spindle]

I keep getting one shot in tier 1 maps. It’s beyond frustrating lol

[lunar veldt]

Where can i find HC builds for PoE 2?

[tender needle]

yeah, those tree's are bad. I dont have a single damage node on my tree that isnt cast speed. All points in energy shield, some mana or jewel sockets to get 15% life regen. Can get to 500+ stacks for 9000+% spell damage increase.

[supple flower]

What class?

[wary wave]

Is running delirium in high tier maps worth it ? It's a bit rippy for me, would it be a waste for me to run it in tier 10-11 maps ?

[supple flower]

Basically it's good to have around 80% dodge from evasion

[teal spindle]

Monk

[supple flower]

Wind dance, ghost shroud auras

[tender needle]

Elemental damage spiral volley if u want something cheaper that clears it even better (Prob not better at max investment but at least <5d)

[crimson sonnet]

Does "Bow fires an additional arrow" effectively double your damage? Which means dualstring bows will always be the best base or am I reading this wrong?

[thorny token]

no depends on skill

[supple flower]

I think you should have at least 70% dodge 1300 hp in tier map to do it without problems

[thin basin]

started maps yesterday and found 5 citadel today 🙂

[teal spindle]

So I’m at 1443 hp and was at 80% dodge until switched to the passive that dodges all hits and now I’m back down to 45%

[warped lance]

Does anyone know if the node on the tree that gives increased evasion on body armor interacts with invoked monk spirit node?

[thorny token]

no

thats not how that node works

[supple flower]

Don't use that xD

[thorny token]

its just increased evasion that only applies to chest evasion, added together with all other increases to your evasion

[opaque sparrow]

Can someone tells me how this works? Like, if an item requires 115 strength, does it give me 23 dex?

[thin basin]

100 str req turns to 80 str 20 int or 80 str 20 dex

[opaque sparrow]

Oh so it just lessens the reqs. Damnit

[static plinth]

Most skills cannot hit an enemy with more than one projectile

They have to be AoE like Rain of Arrows or grenades

Additional Arrow is still stupid good for clearing but it usually doesnt do anything for your single-target

[worldly grail]

Will minion instability still pop your minion if it's reduced straight to zero life in one hit? Or will that bypass the explosion?

[crimson sonnet]

Oh I didn't know that! Thank you! So they're mostly good for clearing then

[static plinth]

It's the PoE1 wiki page for it, but all of the info here about Shotgunning still holds true
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Projectile#'Shotgunning'

Worth a read

[severe osprey]

I'm trying to build a all fire sorc, I'm level 53 (stormweaver). I'm great at crowd control but aren't doing so hot soloing bosses. Any advice? Am I just doomed? Should I try and swap to cold / lightning?

[warped lance]

Thanks!!

[static plinth]

Frozen and Galvanic Shard are examples of skills that explicitly allow shotgunning in 2

[hollow lantern]

why doesnt my cast on shock work, it says missing socketed skill?

[tender needle]

Because it needs a skill socketed in it to do anything

[worldly grail]

Meta Gems have sockets where you place the skills that they'll trigger.

Essentially, you put in a spell gem similar to a support.

[dusky ginkgo]

got a question why is the "and scatter me to the winds" monk ascendancy not used in critical strike builds at the moment when a person has 50% crit chance would that not make it better than unbound avatar

[foggy bloom]

I got a corrupted boneshatter gem, but it has 0 quality, is it worth upgrading for leveling through Cruel? or is the extra attack speed from quality better than an extra level?

[fickle thistle]

why cant Shockburst rounds inflict electrocute even with the support? it works with Galvanic shards despite galvanic having less attack damage per projectile

[muted umbra]

Does anybody know the answer to these questions?

[thorny token]

minions cant trigger stuff

[proper mauve]

whats the best thing to instill in an amulet as a witch with arsonist?

[thorny token]

read the gem

it has 100% less electrocute buildup

actually idk if thats even mentionedin game but its on poedb for sure

[fickle thistle]

where does it say that?

which gem

shockburst or Electrocute support?

[thorny token]

shockburst

https://poe2db.tw/us/Shockburst_Rounds

[fickle thistle]

doesnt show in game atleast. only says Cannot inflict shock by default

they should probally show that in game. since its not visible and ive been trying to get it to wrok for about an hour

[thorny token]

yea the tooltip is probably just bugged

as it should be showing exactly same thing as poedb

[fickle thistle]

annoying. but i guess it probaly might be a bit too strong if it could electrocute enemies itself

[heavy wigeon]

after image or mental perserverance on deadeye as the annoint

or do I need to provide more info

[limpid plover]

Is elemental equilibrium worth when running the dragon helm?

[drifting river]

Is maxroll explosive shot deadeye build better than mobalytics shockburst deadeye

[unique gyro]

What are some good warrior builds

What's the best ignite build rn

[drifting rivet]

Can anyone tell me where do i get ball Lightning for cast on shock gem?

[upbeat helm]

Would the damage increase between these two be significant? I wanna upgrade my current staff, but cant seem to decide if its worth 8 divines?

[tranquil charm]

could you explain to me why this build point is not light on ?

[rapid hemlock]

just looking for confirmation, does Gas Arrow's ignition/detonation penefit from Projectile Damage?

i know the arrow itself does, but the name makes me think the rest of the effect does not.

[gritty marten]

i noticed on passive tree, you have "increase crit chance" and "increase crit chance for spells" will both work on spells or just the ones that say "spells" on them?

[thorny token]

both will work

[gritty marten]

perfect, thank you 🙂

[primal jetty]

How do you get “unbound avatar” spirit gem? I can’t find it when I try to engrave

[fiery wave]

does this only work on ignites from hits

or also on the auto ignite

[worldly grail]

In case it's useful to anybody, I just learned something amazing - when minion instability detonates a minion, last gasp still keeps them alive for 4 seconds.

[torn jolt]

this good ?

[worldly grail]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-philip-j-fry-drool-drooling-foaming-gif-4920062

I'm no expert. Might not be great overall, but looks great to me. 🤣

[sterile ruin]

at lvl 44 i'ts amazing

[torn jolt]

it has lightning rune not 2 physicall sadly

[worldly grail]

Yeah, definitely had the potential to be better, but it's still not bad.

[torn jolt]

im doing tier 11 maps with it

[worldly grail]

Ah, I'm barely in A3, so I haven't even seen the kind of numbers that T11 maps have. xD

[sterile ruin]

aight brb deleting my char

[torn jolt]

xd its ok you will reach it sooner or later no rush :))

[worldly grail]

When do you start getting 4+ support gem sockets?

[vale frost]

For a fireflower build, do you start with ignite, or fire damage?

[worldly grail]

My detonate dead needs more sockets. XD

[snow sierra]

somewhere between soon and never

[torn jolt]

u mean extra sockets ?

its so rare

[snow sierra]

i found like 5 link thingy 3 times in my 11days played and the 6 link never

[abstract mortar]

what usually is the annoint for tri stat stacking?

[subtle timber]

is this fine for 30 exalted? i am not sure about these things, new to poe 😦

deadeye ranger lightning

[torn jolt]

damn i found 0 and i have like 72 hrs playtime

[snow sierra]

dunno but i seem to be mega unlucky alot of ppl found even multiple 6 link thingys

[vale frost]

I already learned a mechanic about ignite infliction, if you deal higher ignite damage than your base ignite it starts a new ignite, i think it must be better at generating energy than the other elements because of it.

[worldly grail]

Well, you can put as many ignites on an enemy at once as you want, but only the highest damage one will actually damage them at any given moment.

[vale frost]

thanks for clarifying

[worldly grail]

So if you have something triggered upon igniting, then you can trigger it over and over regardless of them already having ignites, I believe.

I could be wrong on that, but that's how I understand it based on how the ignite mechanic works.

I would imagine something that doesn't work that way would specify that it triggers "upon igniting an unignited enemy" or something like that.

Also, infernal legion ignites enemies as if hitting them, so that can be good if you have something that triggers on igniting. I'm not sure how often it puts a new ignite on them, though.

[fiery wave]

no youre right

the problem with ignite is

tehre are some problems xD

for one you dont know the ailment threshold of bosses

so extremely impractical to get to a good amount of magnitude

eh chance

[abstract mortar]

what usually is the annoint for tri stat stacking?

[alpine kettle]

Hi, is it right that if i put support gem that has "Cost multiplier" into herald of ice. It multiplies nothing since herald of ice does not use mana ?

[topaz onyx]

Hello, how does witchbane from mercenary ascendancy work? Was wondering if it’s worth using over culling/jje route

[worldly grail]

I'd check if the gem can actually support it and check if it impacts spirit reservation. Probably wouldn't, but we're in EA and anything is possible. xD

[worldly grail]

Essentially, you're giving enemies a new resource that you break down by damaging them. On it's own, I don't see any impact of them losing concentration, but I'm guessing the tree has another skill after that one which then takes effect based on concentration.

[hushed umbra]

Are you not supposed to put in Sanguimancy till you finish 2nd ascendency?

[worldly grail]

I have sanguimancy on my main and it's wonderful. Haven't done 2nd ascendancy yet.

[hushed umbra]

how?

i just lose hp with no gains

[maiden pumice]

How can i see my Ailment Threshold?

[worldly grail]

You gain life orbs that heal you and can overheal you. Just don't send your mana costs too high and get life regen. I honestly forgot I was even spending life because it doesn't go down at all from my casting.

[hybrid cloud]

Question, for using a lightning skill. Does lightning penetration help increase the poison damage?

[thorny token]

no

[hybrid cloud]

What about reduce lightning resist curse on enemies does that help?

It would make my HIT bigger right?

[thorny token]

also wouldnt affect poison

[worldly grail]

Nothing that impacts lightning damage will impact the poison.

[hybrid cloud]

What affects poison in this game?

[thorny token]

i mean it will, but poison is calculated before modifiers on enemy

and pen do not works with any dots in general

[worldly grail]

The poison takes the base damage of the hit, multiplies by 0.2, then applies any damage that's relevant to chaos damage over time and deals that.

[thorny token]

no that is how it works in poe1

in poe2 its not just base damage

[worldly grail]

Oh, I didn't realize that part had changed.

I apologize.

[hybrid cloud]

It's final damage i believe. So im bit confused how it works in poe2.

[worldly grail]

I thought I read about it somewhere that implied that part was the same, but the wikis are still a pretty big mess, so I might've gotten some crossed wires.

[thorny token]

in poe2 ailments scale from everything that hits do but their damage is calculated before mitigation on enemy

its very clearly mentioned in the tooltip you just linked

like that tooltip tells you literally everything you need to know about poison

[worldly grail]

Krupted linked the tooltip. 😛

[hybrid cloud]

I'm reading the tooltip and with the unique that says ALL hits contribute. "calculated using final damage dealt" So I think peneration or lower lightning resist would work.

[thorny token]

yea im talking to him

[worldly grail]

But yeah, I was crossing some wires.

[thorny token]

read the last line in the tooltip

[worldly grail]

I want to say penetration and lower resistance won't work. It says before modifiers on the enemy, so lowered resistance won't work, and if penetration works similar to PoE1, it only applies to hits.

And penetration counts as lowering their resist.

If it's the same as PoE1 in that regard.

[thorny token]

yea its literally in the tooltip lul

[worldly grail]

I'd check the tooltip on penetration.

[hybrid cloud]

which line exactly?

[thorny token]

the one that says penentration does not work

[hybrid cloud]

"this magnitude is not further affecetd by any modifier to the damage you deal?

[worldly grail]

Oh, haha. Forgot it specifically says penetration doesn't work. Got focused on the earlier portion. Man, I need more caffeine, today.

[thorny token]

this part mentions modifiers on enemy

which is - res

[worldly grail]

My brain is so fried, I literally was about to say the penetration tooltip is linked from that tooltip, but didn't realize that it's there because it's specifically saying no penetration. xD

[thorny token]

and the last sentence says penetration

answering both your original questions

high level bosses have 75 resists

so 75 ideally

yes

but pen is applied after - reses

[scenic dawn]

Does normal cooldown recovery rate also reduce warcry cooldown?

[worldly grail]

Oof.

[thorny token]

so if you want to go negative then you cant use pen at all

[hybrid cloud]

im reading this over like 10 times and its like I don't understand english anymore.

[worldly grail]

So in other words, pen got heavily nerfed.

[thorny token]

nah it got buffed

as the sources on tree are like 5 times better

[hybrid cloud]

So it is just base damage that matters?

[thorny token]

so getting everything to 0 res is pretty much no effort

going negative did got nerfed tho

benefit is that enfeeble nd temp chains are way stronger in this game tha in poe1 comparatively so you can use those instead for curse for ele builds and arent locked to ele curses anymore

[worldly grail]

Sorry for the laugh react, my mouse flipped out.

No, full damage counts. Full damage (before mitigation) X 20% = base poison damage
From there, only things specific to poison damage will boost it.
Enemy chaos resistance will count against it.

[empty comet]

i heard the soft cap for increased rarity is 85%, how steeply does it drop off?

[worldly grail]

Also, any effects on the enemy that will impact the damage they receive from chaos damage over time will matter. I remember wither impacts chaos damage, but I forget if it's specific to hits. That might help the poison do more.

[thorny token]

no

[gray palm]

Is "Spell area damage" multiplicative or additive?

[thorny token]

does it say increased or more

increased is additive, more is multiplicative

[gray palm]

Does that apply for the entire tree?

[thorny token]

yes

[gray palm]

Gonna remove that then I need more multiplicative with demon form

[hybrid cloud]

yeah I understand wither does help the poison. I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the full damage (before mitigation) part.
Like my skill says it will do 100 lightning damage.
Does that mean mods like 50% increased lighnting damage will help the poison? But enemy lightning resist won't affect the poison damage at all whether it has 75% or 0%?

[thorny token]

that is correct yes

[woeful sundial]

for anyone on ps5, or maybe in general, what do i need to change to get notifications that trades are accepted. i see them when i open chat, but i dont see notifications and i keep missing them

[thorny token]

enemy chaos resists will affect the poison damage but at the very end

but if you are poisoning with ele damage then enemy ele resists do not do anything

[quaint prism]

trying to fix my mana problems with merc, how good is mana leeching in this?

[thorny token]

basically the checks on the enemy are just moved at the end

and thats it very simple

[quaint prism]

looking at respeccing fully into those mana leech nodes

[hybrid cloud]

okay makes more sense. Do appreciate it @thorny token @worldly grail for explaining it.

[thorny token]

well those nodes only boost leech you still need to have source of it

[quaint prism]

shit

im tired of pressing 2 everytime i reload rapidshot

[thorny token]

and atm only sources of leech are for phys damage so it sucks

[hybrid cloud]

welp I need to rethink my build LOL

[worldly grail]

Of course! Poison is essentially like a "gain 40% of [relevant] damage as extra damage over 2 seconds".

[gray palm]

Would it be a good idea to run crit on my hexblast?

[calm orchid]

Is there any class that doesn’t get one tapped by arbiter of ash?

This might be the lamest boss mechanics I’ve ever seen 😭

[void pewter]

Trying the Gemling/Monkling Budget Tri Attribute build and struggling with survivablity. I haven't died yet, but my health gets dangerously low. I'm level 52 and wanted to know a good way to boost my defenses. I'm also 65+ on all resists

[unique gyro]

What's a good ignition build for warrior

[thorny token]

ignite? hammer of the gods

also perfet strike both work fine

[opaque sparrow]

Are these passives global? 🤔

[unique gyro]

I meant who makes a good build I could use like on yt or some website

[ornate jacinth]

Hi everyone! New player here. Having a hard time with picking a class. Prefer survivability over damaged but would still like to clear and move through the campaign. Any reccommendations of what class to play/look into?

[opaque sparrow]

Make your own 👑

[worldly grail]

I imagine they'll work like any other [% increased] modifiers on the passive tree.

[thorny token]

ah, no clue

[patent stratus]

anyone know why i cant build stacks on my monk

[worldly grail]

Meaning additive increase on all +Strength stuff

[opaque sparrow]

I don't know how those work either

[thorny token]

i have tree for hammer warrior with ignite tho if that helps

[unique gyro]

Tempting but I'm too impatient for that

[opaque sparrow]

I'm getting 277 str from armor, and another 300 from tree, would it apply to both?

[worldly grail]

So, whatever it's modifying (fire damage, strength, spell damage, etc.) will get a base value from all +[n] stuff, then all [% Increased] mods, added into a single % will apply, then each [% more] modifier is applied multiplicatively one after another.

[opaque sparrow]

Gotcha

[vast egret]

can anyone help with whats the best support gems that can be inserted into cold snap for maximum AOE damage?

[worldly grail]

Unless that particular skill works in a weird way, then yes. It should apply to all of that. If it does work different, then I'd expect a future patch to either change how it works or change the wording to be more clear.

[vast egret]

e;g clicking a button and making the whole screen go away

[opaque sparrow]

+277 str from armor. Dmg gonna be huge 🙃

[muted umbra]

oh that's sorta lame, I thought it'd be different it was 'Necromantic Talisman' giving your minions Choir of the Storm to trigger it on their criticals

[worldly grail]

Depends on the rest of your build. Considered casting is a nice +40% damage, but slower casting. If you have minions, then minion pact can sacrifice their life for +40% damage. There's also one for 40% more AoE size, but I forget the name.

[opaque sparrow]

Also, another question 🙃 if I'm rocking TWO cultist greathammers, does it pop twice?

[worldly grail]

Strength doesn't inherently impact damage in PoE2

[opaque sparrow]

I know 🙃

[worldly grail]

Ah, okay. I wasn't sure if you had something that is specifically impacted by strength.

[vast egret]

yep i got the 40% bonus with slower casting on already. pretty based since i cant even feel the difference in cast speed. it still spams it lmao. any other suggestions?

[worldly grail]

You'll have a good amount of life, though.

[opaque sparrow]

I do

😂

Soon tm

Btw, what's dex passive again? 🤣

[worldly grail]

I'm curious if biting frost will work.

[vast egret]

it is absolutely shit, i tried

[opaque sparrow]

Just realized if I get the -35% requirement, I can severely cut back on my str needs

🤣

[opaque sparrow]

Do you know if cultist greathammer passive will proc twice if I'm wielding two?

[analog gale]

does leech stack?

or is it like you only heal from the biggest leech?

[empty comet]

yes, it stacks

[void granite]

Hey guys, so I'm playing fubguns LA build and he runs all bonus from quiver jewels. they are like 20 divs each. What would be a good substitute?

[valid palm]

Henlo, wanted to clarify something. DoT is not affected by crit in any way and frankly cannot interact with it at all, right?

[opaque sparrow]

Duration or intensity? 😀

[valid palm]

Is there any specific way to enhance DoT in a significant way, like crits do for spells/attacks with hits, giving out a significant boost in damage due to the way math works.

[opaque sparrow]

There's plenty of nodes that increase specific dot dmg

[valid palm]

Where? In the top half of the tree? I don't see any.

[thin basin]

depends on the dot, if you crit on the hit, the dot will prob do more

[valid palm]

This does not sound concrete. This interaction is not mentioned anywhere in the game.

[valid palm]

Aha, so it's poison. Got it. Let me be frank then. I'm looking of ways to increase chaos DoT damage.

[empty comet]

that i dont know, but ive got 9% life leech on one ring and when i swap gloves and take the ones with 8.5% life leech off, i see a noticible difference in my life

[valid palm]

In ways beyond just raising chaos damage. I'd need something more powerful.

[thin basin]

"p n c dmg from hit contribute to magnitude" so imagine if it hit harder (aka critting)

[opaque sparrow]

Search chaos on the tree

[opaque sparrow]

That would mean it stacks intensity

[valid palm]

Yeah. my bad. I should have clarified that I was talking about chaos DoT, not poison.

[opaque sparrow]

Poison is a chaos DoT

🙃

[frosty arrow]

does hexblast applies from blasphemy curses or they have to be applied?

[delicate river]

Hey all, quick question. The unique ring that converts cold to lightning. Does this mean it applies freeze still or will this turn to shock or does it still act the same but just scale damage as lightning? And follow up, does this mean I should stack lightning or will stacking of cold convert more to lightning?

[worldly grail]

If dual wielding is the same as poe, then no, because you alternate weapons. Only one hammer hits at a time.

[valid palm]

Poison does chaos damage, but it's an ailment... Chaos DoTs are simply considered DoTs hence the don't have any unique mechanics, like the poison does.

[frosty arrow]

I don't think there's any double dipping allowed with these conversions. If you stack cold nothing will happen, because technically there is no cold damage anymore. No chilling or freezing either

[opaque sparrow]

But the damage would stack just fine, yes?

[delicate river]

Okay thanks. That's kinda what I figured, but didn't wanna be silly. I play on controller so I don't know the bind like holding shift would be in the tree

[opaque sparrow]

Converts outgoing damage. Can't deal freeze if you're throwing out lightning

[valid palm]

I would've liked it if chaos DoTs could contribute towards the poison, but oh well.

Well, guess there're no ways of significantly improving DoTs. Sadge.

[worldly grail]

Unless they're global damage, then no.

[opaque sparrow]

Then what's the point in dual wielding hammers? 😑

[frosty arrow]

in general game tries to avoid positive multiplier loops with things like conversions. So you don't break damage calcs by double dipping into multipliers for both, or end up where they apply recursively and damage going into infinity

[opaque sparrow]

Is that not a thing? Maybe I was misinformed

[karmic goblet]

what is the best thing that i can buy to up my stormweavers mapping skills

[hushed umbra]

Does all of bonestorm crit at the same time or each projectile individually?
Is Inevitible crit even worth it?

My per shot damage is pretty consistant which makes me thing they all crit individualy (50% crit chance)

[thorny token]

sustained skills roll individually, everything else only once

bonestorm is sustained

so inevitable is useless for it

[hushed umbra]

thank you!

i checked few guides and they all had inevitible

[worldly grail]

Unless it changed in PoE 2, [% increased physical damage] on weapons only affects that weapon, itself (hence showing in the weapon's damage)

I haven't had a chance to explore martial weapons (I play casters), but you might find a setup where one weapon has a good chance to cause bleed and another weapon that deals more damage to a bleeding enemy or something to that effect. If it leaves a lasting effect for the other weapon to benefit from, that could be a good dual wield.

In PoE 1, dual wielding carried an inherent increase to attack speed. That might be true in PoE 2, as well.

[thorny token]

yea ppl dont like reading tooltips even thouh they are rly good in poe2 at least

and explain most of stuff

(also unreadable on console tho lul)

[valid palm]

I'll ask it once more, this time clarifying it further. Is there a way to gain a significant boost to chaos DoTs witch has, like crit does to hits? Some special mechanic that I'm missing out on? Because, well, crit doesn't affect chaos DoTs. Or is the only way of improving damage I have is through chaos/spell damage increases?

[thorny token]

pretty much. in poe1 we had dot multi for dots that was similar to crit multi for hits

but i dont think its present in poe2

just ailment magnitude so if you are non ailment dot you are kinda screwed

[valid palm]

Yeah, I was hoping for something like that.

[valid palm]

Chaos DoTs don't even contribute towards the poison magnitude 😦

Only hits.

[worldly grail]

I haven't found anything that will do much for chaost dot, but you never know what you might find. Maybe you'll find something that says crits cause you to do more chaos damage or something. Essentially, anything that doesn't specify hits only will apply to dots.

[pearl sluice]

i need some advice which on for a nade spam build

[hushed umbra]

also...

[opaque sparrow]

Fair enough. I believe the damage of both weapons is added together and then you take a 30% dmg drop

[thorny token]

lmao

yea the recommended gems are kinda wild sometimes ngl

[valid palm]

Unfortunately, I have already looked through all the chaos/spell related boosts and I got nothing I can benefit from.

[thorny token]

vine arrow recommendations are even funnier

[worldly grail]

https://pathofexile2.wiki.fextralife.com/Molten+Blast

[opaque sparrow]

Ah okay, that's where I got that from 🙃

[opaque sparrow]

Yes 😎

[thin basin]

both

but its bugged rn with double shock

does like gazillions damage

expect nerfs/fix

[valid palm]

It's a shame how DoTs feel really left out, especially for Witch. You quite literally benefit from none of ascendancies. Hopefully the third ascendancy they will add for her will fix that, 'cause right now I'm not choosing any, as they will be essentially useless (Or even harmful) for my build.

[thorny token]

i mean is it rly bugged, counting both shocks for the shock effect works as intended

[reef ember]

DUDE no

[thorny token]

thats how it worked in poe1 as well

[reef ember]

i'm currently leveling my second witch

[thin basin]

is it supposed to hit for 140m tho

[empty comet]

its def not multiplicative if thats what you mean, but rather than being additive they may simply act independently so im gaining life back from both at the same time

[thorny token]

well thats just balance issue

not a bug

[reef ember]

as full chaos damage with contagion + essence drain

[thorny token]

right

[reef ember]

demon form + full chaos contagion + essence drain is INSANE

im flying through the content lightning fast

[thin basin]

ive heard instead of x2 per 5% its doing like x2^^ or quadruple or something

[thorny token]

100% more damage per 5% shok is a lot more damage after all :d

[thorny token]

ah, i mean could be

[valid palm]

Hm, no minions, right? Maybe I'm just stupid or have not looked properly into this.

[thin basin]

hence why i put "stormweaver LC double shock interaction" in nerf list

[thorny token]

demon form carries damage even on garbage skills thats how it works pretty much

[reef ember]

0 minions. i just kill 1 mob and with 4x skill prism contagion doubels in strength every jump

[thorny token]

its like indigon in poe1 :d

[opaque sparrow]

Intensity means you were gaining 9% + 8.5% at the same time

[thin basin]

but if it is indeed not bugged then they really gonna hit it hard

[reef ember]

for bosses i just wait in demon form as long as i can, once boss spawns i got full stacks and 2 dot rotations will kill all campaign boses :d

it's ridiculously good im telling you!!

[worldly grail]

Lol, makes sense. I want to say dual wielding innately

[opaque sparrow]

Thats because witch is only minion spammer and nothing else

[empty comet]

gotcha, yeah i could see that

[thin basin]

6th citadel today but havent seen one moment of zen

[valid palm]

Do you have something to back your HP up with? What's your sustainability setup?

[opaque sparrow]

Leech seems kinda of broken when there's nodes that give you immediately leeches instead of over time 🙃

[reef ember]

ghostwrithe + energy shield stack. had 1.5k energy shield level 20 😄

[thorny token]

week until the nerfs hit i bet :d

[valid palm]

But doesn't demonform damage go directly to HP?

[thorny token]

for bunch of stuff

[thin basin]

if bugged, immediately when they come back, so first patch, if its just strong they might hold back til 2nd patch or something

[elfin meadow]

does overabundance do anythinig for the monks bell? I can't seem to ever place 2 down at once

[opaque sparrow]

I was wondering about this too. I took it off 😅

[reef ember]

it does. i have 300 hp. i just pop health potions 😄 chug em for 30 sec, spawn boss, dot, dead 😄

also have blasphemy + despair aura and plan to have it explode with the lv 41 skill

[valid palm]

Sounds kinda... Dull.

[thin basin]

Yes, but duration is like 3s youre unlikely gonna have both up at same time

[valid palm]

Isn't it kinda bad for clearing maps, though? I mean, I get the bosses, but you need to stack demonflame each time to have a significant increase in damage, no? Plus it's on a pretty long CD.

[frail pollen]

is it redundant to have 50% fire exposure on enemies using oil grenade + strip away and use gas grenade with a skill gem that penetrates 30% fire resistance?

[restive turret]

question, does projectile dmg or piericing effect gas arrow like it did with poision arrow in poe 1?

[worldly grail]

That'll be really fun with two of that hammer.

I couldn't say for sure if you'll double splash or not. It might just be a boolean of [Splash = true] and making it double true doesn't necessarily mean double splash. You'd have to test it out.

Oh, nvm, the hammer says that strike skills splash. Leap is a slam, not a strike. That's unfortunate.

[empty comet]

many things are broken grasshopper, this is early access

[steady geode]

how important is having es in a build