2┃build-planning

[wet mango]

right.... so the phys dps contributes as well

why are you ignoring it

[spare bone]

😭 so hard and funny

[wet mango]

trade site doesn't know what skill you're using

it's just giving you the dps on the staff

you're converting phys to lightning, it's not disappearing

[spare bone]

but i don't have anything that contributes phys damage

so biggest problem is elemental damage increase?

[wet mango]

what do you mean

the staff

literally has140 phys dps

[vagrant imp]

all of your elemental scaling is contributed to by the physical since you get conversion.

[spare bone]

is it really that big amount?

140phys and than converts 80% of it

[wet mango]

it's over half your ele dps on the staff

it's 33% of your damage

[vagrant imp]

if you have 300% lightning damage boost that effectively is a 240% damage boost to the phys of the staff after conversion

[spare bone]

😭 math

[wet mango]

ok butyour ele is only 240

so you tell me if 140 is a "bg amount"

perhaps you have a misunderstanding about conversion?
#1321237459987726366 message

[spare bone]

i get it

[supple jay]

bump

[spare bone]

i just suprised because i have like alot, ALOT of electro damage in my skill tree

[wet mango]

yes and all of that will scale the phys damage on teh staff

[vagrant imp]

Phys damage is electro damage for your skill

it scales the lightning after the conversion rather than scaling the phys before

[spare bone]

wait wait wait wait what

[wet mango]

if you're suprised by this, thinking that lightning dmg on the tree affects your weapon phys and ele dmg differently, then no you DON'T understand conversion

[vagrant imp]

if your weapon does 300 phys damage it becomes 60 phys and 240 lightning then that 240 lightning damage gets scaled by all your weapon elemental damage, elemental damage, lightning damage etc

[spare bone]

phys flat > phys % > electro flat > electro % > phys scale > electro scale = damage?

[wet mango]

no

[wet mango]

what do you mean by >

greater than, or an arrow

[spare bone]

conversion process

[wet mango]

just read this
https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1321237459987726366

the main post, and the section on conversion

the converted damage will NOT scale with phys

this is all explained in game under "conversion"

[eternal raptor]

do you think thats worth it as annoint for gas arrow, would that enable shocks or is it probably too little dmg?

[wet mango]

too little

[woeful sundial]

so anyone can explain why this is happening? when i trigger demon form my hound just goes away? are they compatible?

[eternal raptor]

didnt they say thats a bug i thought its already fixed

[woeful sundial]

is there anything i could be doing wrong like spirit or something. i mean it says he costs 0

but when i transform he just peaces out

[eternal raptor]

did you try it with other minions

[zinc grotto]

any1 know how poison damage work? should i add chaos damage on my weapon or physical alrd good?

[eternal raptor]

poison does dmg from phys and chaos combined

[zinc grotto]

so if i got weapon with add chaos damage it will be good?

better than physical only?

[spare bone]

i even translated it with chat gpt and still can't understand 😭 can you explain it to me like i am a toddler?

[tidal copper]

The optimal weapon will be the one with most DMG either physical chaos or both
You have one chaos modifier and you have 3 physical ones

[woeful sundial]

i havent been summoning just doing sorc skills

[eternal raptor]

higher dmg= better
if the weapon with added chaos has less dps than pure phys its still worse

[eternal raptor]

yea i meant just to test if it affects all minions or just the ascendancy doggo

[woeful sundial]

i'll try to check

[zinc grotto]

this passive any good?

cz its reduced duration

[eternal raptor]

if you can keep max stacks of poisons on enemies yes its good

i think its only 1 at base so 2 with this notable

[zinc grotto]

uhmmm okay thanks

[wet mango]

that post WAS me trying to explain simply....

can you say which parts you don't understand

or go sentecne by sentence

[spare bone]

every electro damage converts to phys damage?

or phys damage just have better conversion

[wet mango]

i don't understand this sentece at all

[zinc grotto]

one more question, if i take witch skill that decrease enemy chaos resist, it will increase my poison dmg?

[eternal raptor]

by electro you mean lightning?

[vagrant imp]

yes

[zinc grotto]

even my weapon physical only?

[eternal raptor]

yes poisons always deal chaos dmg

even when it comes from phys dmg

[zinc grotto]

okayyy thanksss

[vagrant imp]

it will increase the poison dot just not the hit itself

[spare bone]

😭

oh

[woeful sundial]

yeah other summons are disappearing when i transform even when i make sure i have the spirit for it

[eternal raptor]

thats a bug from what i know but i thought thats already fixed so maybe i'm wrong

[wet mango]

why would lightning damage convert to phys

[eternal raptor]

what you trying to do

[spare bone]

so my main question is - why does 400 electro damage SO MUCH worse than 200 electro and 140 phys even though i have like billion % increase lightning damage

[woeful sundial]

maybe tthey missed my setup

[wet mango]

becuase the phys converts to lightning via your skill, so it's all lightning damage in the end

so it's like 400 electro vs 350 electro. Then the 350 electro has a lot of other mods as I mentioned here

[vagrant imp]

It's not worse, the 400 electro damage is better, but the lower phys/ele DPS weapon has gigantic % elemental damage rolls and more skill levels which heavily increase the baseline scaling.

[spare bone]

and after that my dps multiplies by this mod?

and because i didn't have it it's "main" reason why dps so low

[vagrant imp]

Yes, and the implicit from the soulcores, so 171% increase

[spare bone]

not to mention that i have less +all melee skill lvl

soulcore?

[wet mango]

esyes because your dps is 99% elemental

as I mentioned in this sentence ^^

[eternal raptor]

+lvl isnt as important for attacks as for spells

[vagrant imp]

It's still a lot of damage

Main issue is the mana tbh

[spare bone]

thank you for explanation

it was hard

[eternal raptor]

since i dont play with archmage anymore i never have mana problems

just get a regen ring maybe a passive and its all sorted

[wet mango]

spells like to be roughtly 10-15% more damage per level, attacks tend to be closer to 5%

[spare bone]

so it would be much better on this staff if it had % increase phys damage instead of fire damage? or flat phys damage

[wet mango]

yes absolutely

because the resulting phys dmg would turn into lightning

[vagrant imp]

Since you don't scale the fire damage aside from generic elemental damage phys is a lot better

[wet mango]

instead of staying as fire

[eternal raptor]

flat phys gets scaled with the % inc from weapon before conversion so both together would be best

[spare bone]

yeah i understood that, but what could be better, % or flat phys?

because i can't have light damage, % elemental, and two phys damages

[vagrant imp]

For an expert staff definitely %, ideally both flat and % since they scale one-another

[obtuse tapir]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/rs6670m8

just wanted to ask how does he get all the int required here

[wet mango]

flat, % phys, and then either hybrid phys or a big Ele flat

[spare bone]

but isn't they are all prefixes and you can't have % elemental, flat lightning, flat/% phys?

[wet mango]

I didn't say elemental

[vagrant imp]

Yeah you can only get three.

[wet mango]

I named 3 prefixes

[spare bone]

yeah i know, i said it to chase

ok roger

wasted 30 ex, sold this ass staff for 20, lesson for 10 ex - ill take it

thank you boys

or girls

[eternal raptor]

better 10 ex than 10 div

[vagrant imp]

Dream for your build is flat phys/%phys/Flat lightning --- Attack speed/crit chance/crit damage, but that is going to be stupid expensive with how popular invoker is rn

[spare bone]

huh? no elemental damage?

[hearty oracle]

is accuracy rating local to weapon? Will it apply to totem?

[vagrant imp]

ele% and flat lightning are both good, really it depends how much % boost you have on your tree, the more you have from tree the better flat lightning is.

[wet mango]

not locla

[hearty oracle]

so unlike poe1, where accuracy rating on weapon not limited to only when attacking with weapon, right?

[spare bone]

got it, because i already have primer % increase from skill tree i don't really need it on weapon

[wet mango]

oh uh, about totems, not sure, I assumed they just always hit

[spare bone]

so ideal staff for me is crackling with base lightning damage, flat/% phys damage, % elemental damage, speed attack, crit damage and chance

[vagrant imp]

Not crackling, you need the staff to have base phys damage for the %phys to really shine.

[obtuse tapir]

guys how do I get more int without having to allocate nodes in the passive skill tree nor on the gears

[vagrant imp]

Gothic Quarterstaff is ideal for the crit, bladed is good too.

[wet mango]

you don't, either on passive tree or gear

[terse escarp]

How does aoe% affect flicker strike? Teleport distance?

[grizzled mortar]

hey guys, what do you think would be the best annoint for a melee gemling build?

the 10%+ attribute one?

[forest crescent]

any monk using protect me from harm? how much evasion do i need on my body armour to get 195 spirit?

[vagrant imp]

You have to be more specific about the build, but attribute stacking gemlings should just path to Polymathy manually since the +3 all nodes are very good as well.

[grizzled mortar]

thanks, and good point

i have polymathy already

could i stack it?

or is it only for passives we dont have already

[vagrant imp]

No, you cannot anoint an already allocated node

[obtuse tapir]

wth

[grizzled mortar]

thanks, i didnt realize that

I'm playing the str stack gemling build with pillar staff

[obtuse tapir]

this build im looking at has a helmet that requires 46 int and this guy doesn't even have a single node as int

gotta be missing something

[wet mango]

gemling?

they have an asc node that lets them stack 1 attr

[obtuse tapir]

nvm found it

[patent shell]

anybody an idea how i can get life leech for elemental attacks ?

[obtuse tapir]

its at the bottom

forgot that's all attributes

mb

[wet mango]

be a bloodmage?

she gets spell leech iirc

[spare bone]

oh yeah, gotcha

[vagrant imp]

I don't know much about taht build, but I'd just generally advise you anoint something that is far out of your way.

[supple jay]

how much does accuracy matter if you aren't gonna be using ranged attacks or a node like falcon technique?

Im thinking about taking some points away from dex and putting them into int/str

closest thing to a ranged attack im using is charged staff

I guess there are rares that are evasive

[vagrant imp]

You don't need more dex on monk than is strictly necessary to equip your gems/gear

[supple jay]

thats what I thought yeah

[vagrant imp]

Dex is basically the worst attribute by a lot right now unless you're scaling something off of it like HoWA/Pillar/tree nodes

[obtuse tapir]

wait sorry which node is that

[supple jay]

was accuracy a thing in poe1

seems like a weird stat

[vagrant imp]

Yeah

There was even a keystone that rewarded stacking it

well, reaching a threshhold with it, having higher accuracy than your max HP

[spare bone]

@vagrant imp this one would be a massive increase in dps for me as i understand?

it costs insane money though

[stuck vault]

anyone got an suggestion what to annoint as lightning spark archmage ?

[grizzled mortar]

😮

[pearl sluice]

what is max leech % / sec ?

[hasty latch]

hmmm.... would it be worth it to reroll to LA from gas arrow? ive only got like 2div and about 140ex

[patent shell]

why are people using upheveal in showvase videos for bossfights ? does the 3 beams of stormwave stack on each other if u have enough aoe ??

[wet mango]

Gear and gem requirements can be met with your highest attribute

[inland pelican]

this works on witchhunter / crossbows skills right?

[obtuse tapir]

ty

[wet mango]

Skill speed applies to all skills 🙂

[real kiln]

am i missing something here? why is this so expensive? lol

i guess it looks nice for spamming blink

[plain osprey]

That, and another ability that lets you basically spam it. I forgot what it's called but it's got a purple-ish image.
Hope that helps

[wraith shell]

how important is exposure in late game and on bosses

[hasty latch]

jungroans build.

[obtuse tapir]

for leveling witchhunter, currently at 52, should I mainly focus on dex or strength

I still don't have falcon technique yet which is why im asking tysm

[leaden salmon]

Anyone running Aurabots? Considering making a Chronomancer for it

[jagged thunder]

January 6 is still the target date for POB2. login

[median kraken]

There's a bugged build that does literally infinite damage with it.

It's also insanely hard to get, since it requires no-hitting a high level Trial of Sekhemas (although can be kind of cheesed with Chayula Monk right now)

[real kiln]

you can get it if you go through the trial without getting hit?

[tawny heath]

okay but this mana cost is absolute mad at higher levels

[real kiln]

im bout to be rich

[stuck vault]

lvl 38

kekw

[median kraken]

You get it by beating a level 80 trial with a special unique relic that sets your max honor to 1

[real kiln]

interesting

[tawny heath]

ye when my monk levels up it will hit 40 then its 1k mana per cast and if possible i could even take it above lvl 40

[real kiln]

is the trialmaster tankier than the sekhema bosses?

[median kraken]

If you can consistently beat level 80 trial of the Sekhema without losing any honor then yeah, you can probably make a profit buying that relic and doing runs, but that's not easy to do

[real kiln]

well

currently i use a spark build and enemies usually don't get a chance to hit me

traps on the other hand...

maybe

[median kraken]

"Usually" is an important word. Very different from "never" when getting hit a single time ends the run and wastes the unique relic

[real kiln]

is the relic expensive?

[median kraken]

Haven't checked, personally. Probably

[real kiln]

or any idea what its called i can check

[tawny heath]

it was liek 30 divv the other day

[median kraken]

I think it's The Last Flame

[real kiln]

lmfao

the relic itself is almost as expensive as the armor

[tidal copper]

Have you tried sorting the list by time posted?

[wraith shell]

what price are you trying on?

how many

go higher

back to the grind then 😄

[proven lake]

I was only able to secure my Ming's for 30ex each.

[tidal copper]

Only 71?

Isn't that lower than yesterday

[proven lake]

If fluctuates, in a day I saw 60-80 ex per div orb

[wraith shell]

dont overthink it, better to exchange and buy the ring so you can start playing the game, staying in your hideout is not getting you anything

[tidal copper]

If you need exalts definitely sell your divine orb
Invest your money get rich

[ivory vapor]

hello guys i need some help , can someone who knows well wich jewels can get wich stats dm me pls ?

[wraith shell]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Modifiers

[ivory vapor]

i cannot find what i need on the wiki

[proven lake]

I sold my only div orb for 78 exalts, was a good move for me at the time.

Then sold a wand recently for 2 Div orbs

What ability are you looking for?

[ivory vapor]

small passive skill gives u 1%mana

and the guy im following for the build said its on a timelost diamond

but cannot find nothing with that affix

[wraith shell]

had the same issue with my rage on hit timelost ruby

cant search for these modifiers on the trade site

[ivory vapor]

but its on the timelost diamond? like i see only resistance on it

[wraith shell]

is that the unique?

[manic rune]

yo so when i use wave of frost it does not freeze any enemies why does it not freeze

[ivory vapor]

idk he jsut said timelost diamond

didnt show it tho

[stuck vault]

the mana costs are redicolus, they somehow scale exponentially

[wraith shell]

you just have to manually look for it

on the trade site

[ivory vapor]

oh ok ty , and how much does it cost if u remember

[wraith shell]

i typed in min price 10div

for this

i didnt check under 10div

[ivory vapor]

holy ok ty

[mystic osprey]

if I have overcharge on a skill(75% increased magnitude of shocks inflicted with this skill) and have shock magnitude nodes on my passive tree, are they multiplicative with each other?

[hollow perch]

is there a decent way to get mana on kill % somewhere on the tree=

`?

[full wraith]

I need help cooking up a build i wanted to do since around release

I wanna play Titan, go for Perfect Strike aswell as Shields

Most builds i found are these:
https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/f44792ce-f16b-4663-a2f3-a0217a4c1e03/builds/c28227cb-da25-4b23-8016-272a199d9e75
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3625751/page/1
https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/planner/builds#passive-tree-0

But not a single one that i intended to go for.

[tawny heath]

ye i mean even at lvl 20 its pretty much not possible to keep up since it procs so much

[full wraith]

I just learned that Stomping Ground Shield Charge+Volcanic Fissure doesnt cause the Volcanic Fissure to erupt

At first i tried regular Mace strike, Magma Barrier proc, Infernal Cry and then Boneshatter to clear packs but in act 2 it just fell off completely

Shield Wall doesnt scale with Melee and is not an Attack either and requires Physical damage nodes it seems, which doesnt really work well with perfect Strike

[frigid hill]

Does anyone know if the Stomping Ground support counts as Weapon Damage? Specifically for Pillar of the Caged God

[pearl sluice]

is there a overview for ascendencys? trying to figure out a build and dont know which one to start with tbh

[full wraith]

the support gem has the "Attack" tag

and its attack damage seems to be 100%

[lilac lava]

Question about vulnerability curse, how important is it for a somebody who does physical damage ? Does it improve damage by a lot ? Hard to tell without the exact armour formula... has somebody tried it ?

[full wraith]

Do you guys think making a build focusing on the core of Shield, Perfect Strike, Infernal Cry, Magma Barrier and Endurance charges is even worth attempting?

Perhaps going for Stampede+Volcanic Fissure is the best way clear packs?

[grizzled peak]

What are the benefits to dual welding on a warrior? I know shield give a block chance, 2 hand give a bit more damage and stun, but what do you get from 2 1h weapons?

[full wraith]

molten blast for example gets more projectiles

https://i.imgur.com/jiB8ctI.png

or Boneshatter hits with 2 attacks with 30% less damage, which is 140% of your attack damage

dual wielding also gives 12 potentially good affixes

[eternal raptor]

is ele dmg to attacks local to the weapon or global?

[full wraith]

i think its local to the weapon

[eternal raptor]

so on a pure phys bow its a dead stat?

[nimble zodiac]

where can i check how many total passive skill point i have?

[full wraith]

depends if its % increased elemental damage with attacks, if its added flat elemental

[grizzled peak]

Ahh makes more since now thanks

[full wraith]

like Perfect Strike, Molten Blast

[nimble zodiac]

does it say somewhere in panel?

total skill points?

[frigid hill]

122 total (lvl 100 + 22 from quests)

[eternal raptor]

count them theres no /passives command for now

[nimble zodiac]

ok ty

[pearl sluice]

Theres no curse on hit or similar ?

[full wraith]

you get 123 total, no? 24 weapon set skills. 99 from leveling up

[nimble zodiac]

it says weapon set 24 (24)

i got more points to spend then?

[eternal raptor]

no hextouch or mark on hit but you can autocast them with cast on x passives

[full wraith]

whenever you get a weapon set skillpoint, you can use it normally

[pearl sluice]

Cast on X passives?

[full wraith]

but you wont get more than 123 afaik. not sure why you only get 122 total

[tidal copper]

There is a explanation for weapon sets in #1308715317375270952

[full wraith]

99 from leveling up, 24 through the campaign

[pearl sluice]

Ahh you mean like cast on crit etc

[eternal raptor]

you know like cast on freeze or cast on crit etc

[nimble zodiac]

omg so I had 24 extra all along!?

[pearl sluice]

I tried that doesnt feel good enough

[full wraith]

no you didnt

if you spend the regular points, you cant use the weapon set points

[nimble zodiac]

oki ty

just diff paths for diff weapon types/sets i guess , makes sence

[pearl sluice]

We should really get a mark on hit or curse on hit

Even if its spirit cost

The current ones with 60 suck balls

[tidal copper]

It's strong I recommend

[eternal raptor]

if you are melee, blasphemy is decent

[pearl sluice]

Nah, caster

[eternal raptor]

i dont use a curse rn its too many buttons with wasd

[pearl sluice]

I guess ill just self cast for bosses

Maybe with cursed ground or idk

[terse tangle]

Hi all, can you please advise who has the option available to insert Supercritical into the Ancestral Warrior Totem along with Sunder? I show a red cross and writes impossible to insert, while on YouTube there are builds where the stones are together and work

[eternal raptor]

you can skill curse nodes with weapon set 2

[pearl sluice]

Yep good idea ill do just that , curse nodes and skill effect duration nodes for sacrifice

Then the bone spike thing could work actually

[tidal copper]

Order? Requirements?

[terse tangle]

I've already tried the following:

Intellect is enough for 7 more stones.
In the poe2db database there is no information about the support of Supercritical by Ancestral Warrior Totem.
In the game itself, Supercritical shows a red cross and does not let me insert it into the Ancestral Warrior Totem slot.
Also gave the stones to a friend (he plays on the PC) also red cross and there is no way to insert the skill, (I play on XboxSX).
My character is level 72

[tidal copper]

Sounds like a scam

[terse tangle]

However, the Youtuber I watched the build from, everything works

[eternal raptor]

do you get this warning?

[terse tangle]

Yes

[carmine sun]

are body runes worth using on ghostwrithe?

[terse tangle]

I even recorded a video demonstration https://youtu.be/U03bhMDPQO0?si=s2_lwYP3XpNG_6dU

[dawn spire]

Can you screenshot the description of supercritical?

[terse tangle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1314221122840952932/1321247414274883594/1.jpg?ex=676d33cb&is=676be24b&hm=adea06107a4cba4733df14a8adb7e295ffdb64e58bc3d7b4d27ec400e041c3bf&=&format=webp

[eternal raptor]

yea i cant read anything
my guess is that either you cant crit and that blocks the gem or theres no skill linked idk it should work

[terse tangle]

Translated, I couldn't change the language in the game itself

[dawn spire]

Ah, okay. The translation says anything that "strikes" enemies, but that could easily be a mistranslation of "hits". And sunder hits, but doesn't strike

But the Ancestral warrior totem gets socketed just fine?

[terse tangle]

Just yesterday, the author of the build replied in the comments that he has everything working...
https://youtu.be/7IVWSQKxlgs?si=M-l_MFyrdwQRT17x

[eternal raptor]

maybe its this option idk if it prevents socketing gems as well as engraving

[terse tangle]

Everything else works

[formal rampart]

Why does scavenging plates for warrior not drop any plates when active?

[terse tangle]

I'll check the settings

[dawn spire]

Can you screenshot the description of the gem?

[dawn spire]

Do you have another supercritical support socketed somewhere else already?

[terse tangle]

Nothing's changed

[terse tangle]

Nope

If you put it in just Sunder it works, in some other skils too, with Ancestral Warrior Totem + Sunder, not anymore

[eternal raptor]

idk what you do wrong but i just tried it
ancestral warrior totem/sunder/supercritical
the supp gem was only unlocked when i put in sunder

[agile meteor]

Do you have list for Do you have list for Aoint amulets? Delirium stuff?

[viral moth]

Can charged staff cause shock?

[tidal copper]

It was order

[dawn spire]

Hold alt on any notable on the tree and it'll show the emotions needed

[agile meteor]

thank you!

[terse tangle]

Could this be a bug specifically on the XboxSX?

[dawn spire]

That's not Ancestral protector totem. That's Shockwave totem

[eternal raptor]

whats that red gem you have on 3rd place?

[eternal raptor]

the blue one is ancestral warrior

[dawn spire]

Oh, I see. Never mind

[terse tangle]

I just wanted to show the text that writes when I select a stone to insert

[dawn spire]

I'm not accustomed to the console UI+translations, sorry

[dawn spire]

Do you have the resolute technique keystone on the tree? It prevents you from critically hitting, so maybe it's stopping you from socketing critical support gems

[terse tangle]

Rage

[eternal raptor]

no idea then other than the non crit issue byron mentioned
maybe dismantle everything and go step by step

[terse tangle]

Nope

[terse tangle]

Il try

[dawn spire]

Do you have enough intelligence to socket it?

[eternal raptor]

he can socket it just not to the totem

[dawn spire]

Yeah but I wasn't sure if they were replacing another int gem to do so

[terse tangle]

Yeah, also for the nine stones

[eternal raptor]

can you check whats the crit chance of your totem skill

[sudden elm]

It's not allowing me to message in the church of monks, I'm a tad confused.

[main cedar]

Hey, building a att stacking gemling rn. Is there any point in not running extra bells for more dps?

[terse tangle]

Removed all the skills and stones, nothing changed

[dawn spire]

What do you mean by extra bells? You're limited to one bell unless you get a second with overabundance

[dawn spire]

This is quite the puzzle. Have you tried logging out and in?

[eternal raptor]

idk how but jung had like 7

[main cedar]

Are you, I just got a new skill gem

And i have 2 bells now

[dawn spire]

Yeah read it

[dawn spire]

Wait wtf. I thought the bell had "limit: 1" on it

[sudden elm]

there's couple other things that increase limit beyond overabundance support

[eternal raptor]

yea same but somehow they break the game on daily bases

[cursive maple]

I just spent like 110 exalt on some of my gear and realized I did my math wrong and now my cold resist is sitting at 69%, should I try to replace something and get back up to 75%?

[terse tangle]

Shockwave Totem? Because Ancestral Warrior Totem doesn't have that parameter at all

[eternal raptor]

nice

[dawn spire]

Ah, okay

[eternal raptor]

then you found the problem

[terse tangle]

Dozens of times, the problem has been going on for days now and I've logged in to play many times over the days

[eternal raptor]

cant socket a crit supp gem if theres no crit

[dawn spire]

Off topic, but I'm just so happy to see another person properly pluralize "basis" and grammatically adjust the phrase "on a daily basis" to fit the subject. A Christmas miracle

[main cedar]

Just tested it, you can slot as many bells as you can fit no limit. Have 8 now.

[eternal raptor]

actually i was quite unsure if i got it right 😄

[sudden elm]

wait.. are you equipping 8 bell gems?

[dawn spire]

Yeah you can use as many bell gems as you want, but I thought you can only have one active at once by default

There is no limit to the number of copies of the same skill gem you can equip (aside from the max gem slot amount)

[eternal raptor]

it seems the limit only counts for that specific gem not all copies of it

[sudden elm]

no way.. o-o

[dawn spire]

Wow that's stupid. Does that work for orb of storms, too?

[dark lintel]

It all works to all skills

You can have as much as you want

[sudden elm]

omg...

that's so dumb xD

[frigid hill]

the weird thing is they fixed that interaction for Emergency Reload but not temple bell

[eternal raptor]

apparently it does not

[frigid hill]

rip 8*2 emergency reload chronomancer

[sudden elm]

they don't even share the combo usage, so you can just slap them all in 1 succession..

and they ring eachother 🤣 (if in range of their shockwave)

[dawn spire]

No wonder people are one-shotting ubers

[near jewel]

20 life per enemy killed on melee weapon - does it work with mobs killed by TOTEMZ?

[sudden elm]

one of many reasons I'm here. I'm trying to rack my brain on whether to continue trying to have eva/ES or just go pure eva due to the stat reqs of hybriding. I figured due to subterfuge mask, and spectral ward the idea would be full eva chest+full ES helm

[eternal raptor]

i like ghost dance, its such a waste to have tonns of evasion but no shield imo

[dawn spire]

Totems don't use your weapon, so I don't think it would apply

At least for Shockwave totem

[sudden elm]

kinda an easy test though, go into a comfy level take some hits, summon totem see if ith eals you

[eternal raptor]

do totems count as proxies? in poe 1 that wasnt the case to eitherway you shouldnt get the life

if anything they heal themself but not you

[sudden elm]

I'm just strugglign abit on gearing I've progressed pretty comfortably but haven't upgraded in awhile and it's starting to hit, I'm mainly trying to figure if I should continue with wearing hybrid or flat armors

[sudden crown]

anyone know if it works with flicker ?
I mean if I use flicker with this buff does every hit of flicker grants me flames of chayula and has that 35% extra dmg ?

[eternal raptor]

i'm no expert and can only tell you about my experience
rn my evasion it 90% without acrobatics and i get full shield heal (400 something) when i get hit so full eva armour isnt rly necessary for me atm

[formal rampart]

Cool you can merge classes but requiring specific weapons only? How’s that versatile?

[sudden elm]

because any class can use the weapons if you meet the stat reqs

[wise delta]

Hey guys can I get some tips on what attributes to look for in witch SRS build

I’m tryna put together good build but

What am I looking for exactly

I just know spirit is important

[formal rampart]

Any good warrior builds to look at I’ve just been winging it at lvl 25 act 2

[terse tangle]

Omg... So my weapon must have at least a 25% crit chance? I put on a helmet to the global crit chance of 30+% and nothing changed, it turns out I need to be in weapon?

[sudden crown]

plus if you had no weapon req for skills devs would have to create animations for every single possible weapon in the game so its that too I think

[dark lintel]

It does work, as long as flicker hits 10times

[sudden crown]

bro I mean activating it

not charging ...

[dark lintel]

You can only activate mantra if you get 10hit combo

So if flicker does less than 10

It wont activate

[eternal raptor]

from what i understand the skill needs ANY amount of crit chance at all
20% less is a multiplier and just means you get 80% instead of 100%

[sudden elm]

flicker is weird, I've used it at max stacks nad it only generated 1 combo

[dark lintel]

You can check if flicker do combos if you still dont have mantra

[sudden crown]

do you read what I wrote ? like Im crazy or what ? "I mean if I use flicker with this buff does every hit of flicker grants me flames of chayula and has that 35% extra dmg "

[dark lintel]

Check if your bell can be activated

If flicker does 4++ combo hits

Youll be able to activate bell

[sudden crown]

you dont know english right ?

not to be rude

but

second language ?

[dark lintel]

Im not rude. I just didnt saw earlier. Lol

Sorry

[sudden crown]

didnt saw and responded xd

okay xd

[dark lintel]

I mean

I thought your first statement if you can use flicker to activate mantra. Lol

My bad.

[sudden elm]

just tested 7 stack flicker, it counts as 1 generation. so with that logic it may do waht you're asking lutnar as it's counting it as 1 attack with many strikes.

[dark lintel]

But to answer your question. It does work

The buff lasts 6 secs

[sudden elm]

but I'd just try it personally with the skill and see if the buff on the top right (I'm assuming mantra shows a buff) goes away after the first hit.

[sudden crown]

hmm so now acolyte of chayula is not that bad

[eternal raptor]

but isnt it just for 1 hit

[sudden elm]

clarification 1 generation of combo* sorry. but if it's only generating 1 combo

it may be doing some interesting things with other skills to that typically only last on 1 strike.

[sudden crown]

thats what I'm trying to know but I dont have flicker build right now and I'm theory crafting before I start

[sudden elm]

kills caused by it creates flames yea?

[sour pendant]

What are very strong 0-100 builds?

[dark lintel]

I mean you you kill some monster it provides chayula flames

[eternal raptor]

oh i see so the extra chaos dmg from mantra is only for the first attack but in 6sec after you get the flames for all attacks on kill

[dark lintel]

*if you

[tidal copper]

None are strong at level 0...

[dark lintel]

As long as the buff is active

[sour pendant]

My bad bro, 1-100

[sudden elm]

im just gonna go test it rq lutnar 1 sec

[sudden crown]

idk thats why I'm asking if this 35% of damage as chaos is on first or all hits
bcs if its on all acolyte of chayula is viable if not invoker is only option

[eternal raptor]

best experience i had so far is ranger

[sudden crown]

plays warrior 😭

[eternal raptor]

the 35% chaos is only first hit
idk what the flames do tho

[sour pendant]

Hm

[sudden crown]

sad

flames grant you extra chaos dmg max 70%

but generating them is just pure pain

[sudden elm]

basically the question is if it snapshots or not

[eternal raptor]

well you get up to like 70% as extra chaos but only if you kill enemies so for bosses=bad

why would it snapshot
flicker isnt a duration skill

[sudden crown]

ye and in acolyte of chayula you need to gather "flames" that randomly spawn like coins on map
its just clunky

[eternal raptor]

its multiple attacks in sequence

[sudden elm]

so If I'm understanding the skill correctly you only get a flame if the empowered strike kills, I just flickered and it gave me 3 flames

[sudden crown]

you killed only 3 enemies or more with that one flicker ?

[sudden elm]

because those multiple attacks generate only 1 combo means it's not acting like multihit for combo generation, so it is being weird that it may give the all strikes the empowered effect

I only killed 3 cause I was in a more level appropriate level

I'll try smaller rq

[sudden crown]

so its working, I think ?
you killed 3 enemies and it granted 3 flames with flicker so in theory you can get max 10 flames on flicker if you kill 10 ?

[sudden elm]

trying to think of a good low lvl mob density

[eternal raptor]

sounds whack but i get your point

[sudden elm]

hunting grounds?

[eternal raptor]

that wasnt in question
still bad for boss

[spare bone]

@vagrant imp almost my bis even vaal was good

[sudden crown]

ye but now acolyte of chayula is good bcs you have flames generation for map clear and thats main issue

bcs on bosses its easy as chayula ascendancy

[eternal raptor]

its not rly helping in clear you get more dmg but no aoe or anything from it

[sudden elm]

ya its generating per kill. just got 8 stacks on 1 flicker.

[sudden crown]

from what I saw chayula gives max 170% extra chaos dmg ( 100% is 3% chance so idk )
and you need to gather those flames
but
invoker gets free monster pen to 0 on crits and 40% more dmg every time he stacks it with free spirit in endgame

[sudden elm]

so theoretically the 33% base increase dmg is applied to all flicker strikes.

[sudden crown]

thats crazy

[sudden elm]

otherwise it wouldn't be giving me all the stacks

[sudden crown]

charged staff is always option

but you would need a lot of power charges

[sudden elm]

charged staff is chef kiss my fav skill and I LOVE IT

[sudden crown]

ye its free "AoE"

[sudden elm]

it likely will get tweaked but I noticed it ignores terrain which is kinda upid xD

[eternal raptor]

monke will be nerfed to warrior level

[sudden elm]

I just love it cause it looks and feels fun af.

[sudden crown]

thats good warrior is huge in endgame

warrior problem is early game

its shitt af

[eternal raptor]

fair i didnt see any warrior in endgame

everyone is playing range

or monke

[sudden elm]

ya know something wild tho. you could use like falling thunder+ mantra and get lots of stacks too

I just realized itj ust says "next attack" not "not hit"

which makes sense why it's working like this for flicker.

[sudden crown]

if this is not a bug

this is huge af

now acolyte of chayula ascendancy is not just a joke

[sudden elm]

so funny enough.. it could work with hammer of god xD

[sudden crown]

and playable

[sudden crown]

ye xd

[mint glacier]

Does gemling spark actually work? Looking for builds in maxroll and came across it.

[blazing cove]

is there a monk fire build thats good? because i dont see any fire skills

[sudden crown]

its just 40% extra dmg of your dmg
so 40% more dmg as chaos dmg
add it to any build and its crazy huge
50% extra dmg from chayula ascendancy 70% from flames

and its just chaos destroyer

just I dont know how to create power charges xd

[sudden crown]

none

[sudden elm]

killing palm, siphoning wand (cull charges), the illusory dodge spirit gem (clone dies gives oyu charge) siphoning strike (charge gained from consuming shock ailment on target)

[blazing cove]

damn my first unique for monk is fire quartestaff thats really good

[sudden elm]

there's also uniques that have chance to create charges on crit, chance to create charges on hit

[sudden crown]

what uniques ?

bcs lingering illusion is must have for me

I already spam dodge roll xd

[sudden crown]

and btw does momentum work on flicker ?
bcs it states that teleporting does not count as movment

[sudden elm]

I couldn't say. I'd imagine it counts as teleporting because flicker does warp you across gaps and such.

[sudden crown]

ye it even says teleport on flicker

so I guess it doesn't work

this armour is so cheap

but it takes armour slot

[sudden elm]

yea, I'm a lightning crit power charge build so I've been at the very least eyeballing the boots.

[sudden crown]

and you sustain power charges through lingering illuson only ?

[sudden elm]

damage isn't currently my issue, my defenses need tweaking cause I'm still wearing some things from lvl 30's at lvl 73 xD I'm just really bad at figuring which to replace what slot with what.

no I use killing palm, siphoning strike for my charge gain

[sudden crown]

oh

[sudden elm]

my main usage is charge staff with the support gem chance to not consume charges. so when I'm lucky just 1 charge is enough to fully charge up

then subsequent charges I sit on till I need more duration.

[sudden crown]

I saw video with this skill and using profane ritual on clear to generate charges

you can click it while flickering

[sudden elm]

that's interesting. ya funny enough I'm using all of my sockets the only socket I have I'd be comfortable changing out is flicker as it isn't 100% complimenting the build.

I'm running flurry, herald of lightning, siphon strike, stagging+killing palm, storm wave, charge staff, bell, and flicker currently.

[sudden crown]

there is unsocket ring always

I just hope this mantra of destruction tech with flicker is not destroyed by ggg

hope its not a bug

bcs now chayula ascendancy is good ❤️

okay time to level monk

[subtle ingot]

hi nerds i have a quick question about what everyone thinks would be the best resistances setup

defenses/resistance choices as blood mage right now:
0 armor + 93/76/84%
0 armor + 98/81/77%
8% armor + 83/102/73% + 50 hp (100 overcap)

[rocky marsh]

Is there any way to get ES regen when going to Eternal Youth? I don't beleive Vitality (or life regen in general) works, but life on kill does?

[terse tangle]

Did some tests and here are the observations:

I have a 5% base crit chance for my autoattack.
With the helmet on global crit +37% is already 6.85%.
When I add Supercritical it becomes 5.48%.
Without Helmet and with Supercritical 4%

In Shockwave Totem basic crit chance 5%, it can be inserted Supercritical but the game shows a red cross saying you can not.

What conclusion have I come to? I don't know, maybe I've run into a rare bug?

[eternal raptor]

didnt you say your ancestral totem dosnt have a crit stat

[terse tangle]

It's about Shockwave Totem's crit

[eternal raptor]

you can reenable the option to block gems i mentioned it not for your part but the yt guy
its confusing without it

[sterile pebble]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/d2392db5-d4f4-42b4-b5c0-50eb48974c48/builds/ec45627b-219d-4af4-a89a-19d65737ceb3?clckid=303f5723 somone play build like this or simmilar and can help me?

[terse tangle]

Turned the option back on, Supercritical can also be inserted into Shockwave Totem although the red cross says it's not possible...

[eternal raptor]

ok thats weird
i'm out of ideas

[terse tangle]

Also ran out of ideas, Supercritical definitely works because the bonus to crit damage is displayed in the totem details

[sudden crown]

if you socket supercritical
crit chance now shows in dps of skill

[thin basin]

Ok hear me out, qstave chrono, time freeze time snap and 2 bell, so u get like 15 seconds of free dps in bosses and maybe 8 bell drops

[sudden crown]

I'm preety sure multiple bells are bug and will get patched after xmas

so

[thin basin]

Nah i dont think so not if you use the +1 limit support

But the concept kinda make sense yea?

[pale tendon]

Spark sorc build some people telling me 30% ailment and others saying 25% mana regen help friends i don't wanna brick my char

[signal jewel]

Im doing a HotG Chrono. Would it be worth going all the way around to get Eldrich and MoM, then down to Giants blood? I'd have armour, es, and block as defenses. Just seems like a lot going around the tree that way.

[rocky marsh]

Can anyone explain to me how concentrated effect reduces the "AOE" of Ice Strike?

[graceful stag]

Like the code? The math? It just reduces it

[heavy drift]

heyhoy. cam someone help me. i am trying to follow a build i now i deal near to 0 dmg in act 2

[thin basin]

Ice strike prob hit in a small cone ish size in front of you so conc reduce that

[rocky marsh]

What is it reducing? The range of the swing?

[graceful stag]

That's the projectile not the aoe even if it's really tiny it's still there on the projectiles hit

[sudden elm]

when applying a rune/core what is the usual go to. is it typically just slot the res you're short on or?

[wintry umbra]

What do you think guys are the top 3 meta/strongest build?

Gemling legionaire caged god i think is the current top 1.

[thin basin]

Can it kill a boss in 2 seconds tho

[old rune]

what? I still have ES

am I understanding something wrong here or?

[analog gale]

anybody know if ball lightning can shotgun?

[old rune]

oh wait, it only converts ES from armour and equipment if I'm correct?

nvm I think I bugged the game

I'm REALLY supposed to have 0 ES

[vast egret]

is there anything cute i can do with a power charge on a cold sorc?

[old rune]

but having this item breaks it

[thin basin]

Stuff doesnt convert twice all you need to know

[old rune]

I see

still

very broken that I can have ES even with eldritch battery

so from which does it take damage first

mana or ES?

[thin basin]

Pretty popular mechanic right now

[old rune]

LOL

it takes from ES then mana, then life

i'm really tanky now

[thin basin]

Iirc support gem that consume power charges for either more crit or damage

[vast egret]

can you please tell me what that support gem is? i've been looking for awhile and couldnt find something like that

[thin basin]

Potential

30% more crit when consume power charge but cant generate charge anymore

[vivid crown]

is that broken armour stacking?

[azure wyvern]

I am thinking about a build which would need to work without any bonuses from armor (expect helmet) items, rings and belts.
so this means only amulet, helmet and overall passive tree are to use

[proven rapids]

you already asked the question in #2┃general and people answered you

yes it is

[azure wyvern]

considering the lack of so many defences from armor items, would dark monk be the best with it's insta mana leech?

[proven rapids]

what are you cooking

[azure wyvern]

just highest magic find, so it means a lot of items are unqiues with trash stats

so you really need to depend fully on the tree and your class ascedency

[unique crystal]

This passive references ''Invoke''. I can't find ANY other reference to the word invoke anywhere

Is it simply the ''Cast on X'' trigger?

[tidal copper]

Invoke lol

[proven rapids]

honestly hard to tell, there's many ascendency that could work well with full mf

the best bet is probably evasion based character

but block could work too

[flat plaza]

does spark work with wild shards?

[glad bone]

yes, and it's normal proj +8

[flat plaza]

why isnt anyone using it

[proven rapids]

pathfinder is good with enduring life flask, deadeye is good with galeforce, monk is good with the evasion to armor thing and meditate, chayula accolyte is good too with flames and chaos resistances, stormweaver good with mom things, chronomancer very safe with fast recoup and slowing debuff, warbringer very good with all hit block and safe playstyle with totems, infernalist is the naturally tankiest thing to exist, bloodmage can be super tanky when combining life + es scalling

@azure wyvern

[patent shell]

I FUCKED up i guess i thought these passive also count XD

[azure wyvern]

do you think you can get good amount of evasion without armor items?

[uncut umbra]

Can you use sceptre as off hand with giant's blood (and 2h mace)

[azure wyvern]

whole build is around maximum magic find, so it forces to use those uniques. Those uniques slow you down, make you be take dmg on kill, reduces your resistances, force you to be on low life

[flat plaza]

get some block

[azure wyvern]

yea, block build could work

but is a huge gamble just with block

[solemn marlin]

are the uniques from trial master any good?

I think the mask will be good on a CI build but the rolls are a bit small

[azure wyvern]

what would be the best dmg source if you were force to use raise shield 90% of the time?

[uncut umbra]

you can use doryani + ventors(- lightning + others + ingenuity belt

then you can just go any lightning build you want

[flat plaza]

dot, totems or maybe minions

[thin basin]

Whats the wording when you hover over invoke?

[azure wyvern]

I am using totem build right now, 71lvl. Totems are good, would even say gameplay with them is boring as heck

[proven rapids]

sounds like you need to play with an aura bot providing you defences honestly

[proven rapids]

you want me to be your aura bot ?

[flat plaza]

idk scale herald of agony or use traps

[azure wyvern]

so totems could work, but I am also using a lot of uniques giving a lot of STR and levels

[unique crystal]

Could be a Shadow thing then I guess

[vast egret]

just making sure, that crit will only apply to that skill Potential supports right?

[azure wyvern]

can you block spells?

[swift aspen]

Resonating Shield is listed as an Attack with AoE, Melee, Sustained, Physical, Channeling categories, so why is it when I put points into Attack Area Damage it does not scale? Increased Area of Effect for Attacks does affect the ability’s radius…

[flat plaza]

strikes and projectiles

[proven rapids]

answer my pm

[thin basin]

Yes

[thin basin]

I mean theres “invocation” spirit skills

Chances are its just anything with the “trigger” tag

[vast egret]

damn. is there no skill gem that does anything with a power charge for a sorc?

[unique crystal]

None of them feature the ''Invoke'' tag

But then why wouldnt they just use ''Triggered'' there

[swift aspen]

#2┃build-planning message

halp
other damage sources in the tree working properly, I think it’s a bug

[thin basin]

Ask them

[unique crystal]

Where? 🐶

[thin basin]

In the forum

[astral willow]

is the effectiveness of cast speed relative to your level like defenses are?

[thin basin]

All you need to know is it will give mana back when you trigger spells bc i saw a build running it to get mana back from all the millions trigger it was doing per second

[astral willow]

just trying to figure out why my cast speed seems to be constantly getting worse

[balmy knot]

is there a rune for just energy shield or do i just use the iron rune

need to know before i socket some runes pls help

[unique crystal]

Thats really all I needed to know, thanks!

[remote narwhal]

No idea but that's kinda disturbing cause my warrior uses it as a main skill.

[thin basin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1hljewp/update_to_barrier_invocation_spell_build/
peep the comment

[remote narwhal]

Ok so I have a question about crit chance

[swift aspen]

Yeah test it yourself, any increases to area attack damage make no dent to DPS if it

[remote narwhal]

Does it affect spells.

Cause that would make no sense all these crit nodes near sorc and witch starting points

[thin basin]

the only other thing you can do is run charge infusion for 30 spirit which give you like 15% more crit chance https://poe2db.tw/us/Charge_Infusion

global

[tidal copper]

Yes it does affect them if it says they affect spells
Spells have the crit chance in the skill gem

[vast egret]

ahhhh that's mad, ty

[remote narwhal]

I meant without that said

[tacit lichen]

Am I wrong to think that weapon dmg is just another flat dmg range that is calculated with the rest of your flat damage numbers in order to calculate your weapon attack?

For example. My weapon does 75 avg dmg per swing. I have +15 flat cold dmg, +15 flat fire dmg, +15 flat phys dmg on the weapon (ignoring dmg ranges for simplicity of the math). So my weapon swing with no additional modifiers should do 120 dmg. If my skill is 200% base weapon dmg, the skill should do 240 dmg? At any point is the local damage from the weapon calculated differently assuming no other modifiers?

[remote narwhal]

Cause there's no way to do 100% then

Actually I'ma test it

Gimme a sec brb

Ok it does work

[remote narwhal]

Well there's nodes that say spell crit chance too

[thin basin]

some are specific some are generic

[vagrant imp]

Yeah it's good. You need to blacksmith's whetstone before you vaal weapons in the future though. Quality is a massive damage boost

[thin basin]

you got crit hit chance, crit hit chance for spell, crit hit chance for attack

[spare bone]

yeah, i fucked up hardly

[remote narwhal]

Yea should just make it crt chance period

[thin basin]

they dont want you to get 100% crit easily

[warped jackal]

btw did someone find this out already? does magnitude really influence cold/freeze somehow besides stronger slow?

[remote narwhal]

Uh I got mine at 36

Now that I know it's possible

[vagrant imp]

Happens, I forgot to socket my Widowhail before hitting the god corrupt lmao

[remote narwhal]

And it was a huge dmg increase for me

[thin basin]

youre gonna invest your whole tree and gear to get it 100%

[snow arch]

I want to do frost wall spam chrono but I don't know what to use when you have to break your own walls

[remote narwhal]

I'm spark anyways

And not really

[warped jackal]

you mean you need a way to break your walls faster?

[remote narwhal]

I'm using inevitable critical

[scenic oak]

can someone explain?

[vagrant imp]

Inevitable crit is really not good on a spammy spell like spark

[thin basin]

9% every 4 seconds

lol

[remote narwhal]

Yes and no.

[snow arch]

first, you have to have unused points. you select the UI at the top right to split points.

[scenic oak]

and?

[remote narwhal]

I wanna get moment of truth

[snow arch]

you pick which points go to your main hand and which points go to your weapon swap

[vagrant imp]

You get 20 more weapon set skill points, so 44 instead of 24. It allows you to assign specific skill branches to certain weapons sets.

[remote narwhal]

Which makes a non crit give me extra crt dmg

I'm not fully investing in crt.

Just enough that it's 75% of the time

[snow arch]

And you cannot use weapon set points to take jewels or keystones

those have to always be allocated

[scenic oak]

so you say at lvl 100 i will have over 140 weapon points?

[snow arch]

you've already been spending them

those are the points from books

[vagrant imp]

No, it does not givr you 20 skill points, it converts 20 of your normal skill points to weapon set skill points.

[snow arch]

if you just use the points raw they don't act like weapon set points

[vagrant imp]

The only way to cheat extra normal skill points is pathfinder

[snow arch]

incidentally I think its 24 points

[scenic oak]

i see, what is the point then? arent we able to assign that already without the ascendency

[vagrant imp]

Yes but you get more

[snow arch]

the point is your weapon swap can do something special like be bow specialized, or a different element

and more points means more difference between the two trees

[vagrant imp]

I don't think it's a very good node right now, but the more dense and diverse the tree gets the better that skill will get

[scenic oak]

i see, to be frank i dont swap weapon my build is only crossbow

[vagrant imp]

You can swap between crossbows

[snow arch]

you could even have a whole setup dedicated to gas grenades or something dumb

that is to say, a different crossbow

[scenic oak]

i understand now, but that requires heavy planning

[remote narwhal]

Did my explanation make sense?

[vagrant imp]

You could have one crossbow for grenades and another for normal shots for example since there are some nodes that are specific to grenades and useless for everything else.

[snow arch]

poe is a heavy planning franchise

[warped jackal]

yeah, i guess in your case it doesn't make too much sense.

for instance if you play a sorc, you may choose to use another weapon to get another skill. or some kind of enabler on the 2nd weapon. currently i use a staff with sigil of power

whenever i use it, i use all the shock and magnitude nodes and apply shock

while stacking sigil

then i switch back to cold to use the red nodes

[snow arch]

when we get spears I can see a lot of rangers dual speccing

[snow arch]

and when we get swords I can live out my legend of zelda fantasy

[scenic oak]

yeah because for example i use gas grenade but on the main weapon which is setup for fragmentation shot.

this will allow me to have another crossbow that has grenade specific build

[warped jackal]

ah i see that's how you could use it on the crossbows. makes sense

[snow arch]

shout warbringers dual spec to put a bunch of melee totems into their DPS

[vagrant imp]

Idk what moment of truth is, but if you never crit and get crit chance scaling then it's good

[remote narwhal]

If u deal a non crit it raises ur crt dmg

[snow arch]

fragshot enjoyer? I couldn't use it after I found out what an automatic lightning shotgun felt like

[scenic oak]

for culling strike, do i also need to put support gem or only the ascendency is enough?

[remote narwhal]

No

[snow arch]

the ascendancy makes the support pointless

[remote narwhal]

Yep

[real drum]

I’ve got a question referring to infernalist. Apologies in advance this is the first poe game I’ve played. I’m running mind over matter or mana whatever it’s called. Should I swap over to an energy shield build. I just completed my first t16 corrupted/ irradiated map but I played it super slow. I have around 1600 hp and around 13-1600 mana

[snow arch]

but other supports that give effects because you culled are good

[vagrant imp]

Why would you want more crit chance for that?

[remote narwhal]

Get decimating strike too

[snow arch]

that's honestly a matter of preference I think

[remote narwhal]

I'm wanting more than enough that I do crits constant but still not 100%

[real drum]

I mean honestly it’s a pain to be smacked and run out of mana

[scenic oak]

i use frag shot with load extra bolt and chance to not consume bolt. with my tree going for all reload speed points

[remote narwhal]

Cause some nodes give dmg for crits some give for non crits

[snow arch]

you cooking yourself or nah?

[real drum]

I’m looking into grim feast but I think I’d have to respec my whole tree won’t I?

[snow arch]

I went deadeye and went hard into attack speed so I can just spew bolts

shockbursts drop me to 0 mana in like 3 seconds

[vagrant imp]

Yeah but spark hits so often even with only 15 or 20 crit you will be critting a lot

[real drum]

Or do I just take out the mom and that one that converts your es?

[remote narwhal]

It's if u delt a non crit recently for moment of truth

[real drum]

I’ve got a few nodes that enhances es already thinking it would translate to my mana but it didn’t change

[vagrant imp]

You need good energy shield gear before you commit to anything

[vagrant imp]

Is it stacking or just if you haven't crit?

[real drum]

I’ve got so much stuff I’m sure I could throw something together. I’m a border

Hoarder

[remote narwhal]

Havent

[real drum]

I honestly need help clearing my stash. It’s overwhelming

[remote narwhal]

If it stacked id be dropping most my crt chance.

[vagrant imp]

Well then same idea you cast spark so often you will basically have always missed a crit recently

[thin basin]

thoughts? generic attack based witch/sorc abusing massive es as defense with ci, scaling crit and elemental for damage

[remote narwhal]

Exactly

[spare shadow]

How much rarity found is something I should aim for in a build?

[remote narwhal]

And I wanna do cast speed which going the crt nodes I just respect to gives me direct access to them earlier

[vagrant imp]

I'd say you want at least 5k ES before swapping to Chaos Inoculation or anything.

[real drum]

Is that the 1hp thing?

[remote narwhal]

Or be a the other class to invoker

[vagrant imp]

Yeah I just don't see how inevitable critical helps with that since at best it will be giving you 50% in maps and 100% for a single cast against a boss.

[remote narwhal]

And go mom and eldritch

[vagrant imp]

Yes, the keystone

If energy shield is your only HP pool CI is basically non-negotiable unless you have crazy chaos mitigation.

[mystic osprey]

Is there a reason to use tempest flurry over ice strike? ice strike just seems like a better skill in terms of clearing, in a case you can both shock and chill.

[real drum]

Ahh ok ty. Just curious. Why is that a thing? I don’t understand I would think it would be a terrible drawback especially for infernal wanting high hp for my spirit

[remote narwhal]

This is why I say that class mom eldritch and ci are good.

[warped jackal]

oof i hate chaos inoculation xD btw why does poison damage still go through if you are chaos immune? do i miss something or was that bugged when i tried it?

[remote narwhal]

It shouldn't

Poison is chaos dmg

[proven rapids]

why generic attack

[warped jackal]

i tried it a few days after release. maybe i should try it again then

[thin basin]

because i wanna do attack stuff lol

[vagrant imp]

Because it makes you immune to chaos damage which normally does double damage to energy shield. It gets rid of the need to invest in any chaos resistance as well, freeing up some affixes.

[remote narwhal]

Yep

[proven rapids]

staff attack or mace attacks ?

[real drum]

Ahhh ok! So I should plan for that? I was gonna slot a chaos node into my shield

[remote narwhal]

Monks probably my favorite class for ci

[astral willow]

tempest flurry stacks up combo quicker and triggers bell more iirc

[real drum]

The resist thingy

[thin basin]

all of them works, qstaff, mace, bow, xbows whatever

[swift sentinel]

so Vitality and Cannibalism and other buff supports don't work with Demon Form? I plugged them in and have enough spirit left but they don't seem to activate

[vagrant imp]

I've seen infernalist work as both hybrid and CI so it's up to your taste, your mana pool is definitely too small as is to justify MoM though.

[real drum]

Ok how do I go about boosting that? I have pretty good rolls on my gear like 150 mana on helm, boots, maybe my scepter

What would be hybrid?

Armor?

[astral willow]

they do, but you have to have the spirit to keep them active, so no relying bonus from weapons. They also don't seem to be active on demon form itself and need linked to another skill that isn't deactivated by losing weapons, so no link on malice or similar

[swift sentinel]

ah crap

thanks

[vagrant imp]

Hybrid meaning HP/ES/MoM some combination, usually HP/ES. Armour is ok too if a little undertuned right now.

[swift sentinel]

my whole plan: shattered

[vagrant imp]

Mind over matter demands you invest in mana on the tree to make it shine, you need flat mana on gear then % from the tree

[real drum]

I’ve heavily invested into armor and es gear. All of my pieces are hybrid pieces besides my gloves I believe since they are unique gloves

Should I swap off of armor?

I could prob get a pretty penny for my gear and use that to roll some of the stuff in my boxes

I see

So no nodes for es?

[vagrant imp]

How much energy shield do you have?

[real drum]

Idk it converts to mana

[patent shell]

how can i convert the test of my phys dmg (20% ) to lightning ? is there any way ?

[vagrant imp]

Could you screenshot your chest armor and send it here?

[real drum]

Plus I’m at work rn I’m just trying to get info. Yeah let me see if I have a screenshot of it

Crap I don’t have one

Idk if you can see it but this is what it looks like. I got flat es and percent rolls on it

[vagrant imp]

Because of how conversion works you would rather scale mana% than energy shield% when it comes to an EB MoM build

[real drum]

Dang 😅

So the tree and flat mana on my gear is my best bet?

[vagrant imp]

Because when converting ES to mana it doesn't care about the ES on your health orb it cares about the total flat ES you have from primarily gear.

[real drum]

Ohhh that’s prob why the ES nodes on the tree didn’t do anything

[vagrant imp]

Say you have 1500 flat ES Scaled to 6000 from ES nodes then it would still only give 1500 mana.

[real drum]

Oh boy

Yeah I’m dumb

[vagrant imp]

But if you have 1500 flat ES and then convert it to mana that 1500 then gets boosted by any mana%

[real drum]

Well I already specd into some es nodes so I might just switch

[remote narwhal]

Wait so eb doesn't consider es boosts??

[real drum]

But I have to swap from armor/es to full es?

[remote narwhal]

Well that's fucked.

[vagrant imp]

Not the % ones otherwise everyone would be running around with 30k mana by double dipping

[real drum]

Yeah I’ve gotten that big node at the top above the 25 int, along with others

[vagrant imp]

If you want big energy shield you can't be running armour/es bases if must be pure ES

[remote narwhal]

Could drop eldritch

[real drum]

Ok cool. When I get home could I dm you my armors to see how much o should list them?

[remote narwhal]

Cause doesn't it still go back to was being drained after mana???

[real drum]

Everyone says infernalist is really tanky but I get one tapped sometimes but I watch videos of people face tanking mobs

[vagrant imp]

But life/es/armor is viable it just doesn't scale as crazy as CI right now. I believe Kripp is playing a hybrid infernalist with armor if you want something to look at for a build like that.

[mystic osprey]

are we able to gain combo while tempest bell is activated? if so, is making tempest bell max amount +1 worth it?

[vagrant imp]

I can tell you if items are good but I play ssf so idk about trade prices

[real drum]

Ohh ok gotchya

[vagrant imp]

What does this mean?

[vagrant imp]

Yes, and yes with a ton of attack speed

[real drum]

Prob means after mob takes your mana it has to go through your es after

If you take off that node that converts it

[vagrant imp]

If I remember right the way MoM is worded it doesn't protect your ES with mana only your life.

[remote narwhal]

If he dropped eldritch after mom is done it goes back to being es drain

[real drum]

Does this mean swapping to a focus or the es shield whatever it’s called

[remote narwhal]

What's ur mana at??

[vagrant imp]

For CI in particular, yes. Body armour, shield, and helmets are a big source of ES

[remote narwhal]

And what's ur HP without ci

[real drum]

It’s around 2k is maybe slightly under

Hp is around 16-1800

I believe

[remote narwhal]

There's 2 uniques u could go for

[real drum]

This is an old screenshot

[remote narwhal]

Ones off your hp and the others mana

[real drum]

I’m level 88 now I believe or 85

[remote narwhal]

Raises ur es based of both

[real drum]

What uniques?

[remote narwhal]

Chase should know what I'm referring to on the mana

Helm idk off hand

Gimme a sec on that.

[remote narwhal]

Do u know which Amy I'm referring to?

[real drum]

I need my plus minion skills

[remote narwhal]

Ooof

[real drum]

I finally got my archers doing the damage I want them doing lol

[vagrant imp]

Ghostwrite chest converts HP tp es and there's an amulet that converts mana to ES

Idk helm though

[remote narwhal]

That's converting

These don't convert

[real drum]

I was using scatter and fork and wasn’t swapping my gems on boss

Now I just use fork

[remote narwhal]

Their based off ur HP and mana

[real drum]

If it’s that green armor I believe I have that

[vagrant imp]

I will say that when GGG comes back from vacation energy shield and archmage are almost certainly getting nerfed, so invest in CI with caution 😅

[remote narwhal]

Atzris disdain

Oof nvm 23% of dmg passes energy shield.

[real drum]

What’s your opinion on that fire armor that converts even more dmg to your fire resist?

[high path]

how do you guys build against getting stunned? swapped to ghostwrithe today and i'm constantly getting stunned

[remote narwhal]

The everlasting gaze and idk tbh

[real drum]

Charm 😂

I get frozen and stunned all the time

[vagrant imp]

Cloak of flames is very good if you can get additional fire mitigation but the base defenses on it suck otherwise

[remote narwhal]

Sadly

[high path]

oh right yeah, will have to pick between frozen and stunned then lol

[warped jackal]

i put this on my neck

and got that one

[vagrant imp]

There are nodes on the tree that give stun threshold based on energy shield.

[high path]

oh wow ok yeah

cheers guys

[vagrant imp]

Yeah those

[warped jackal]

feel like that's better however

bcs if you are on ES, your life is probably full anyways? especially with your body armour

[high path]

yea

what is our base stun threshold? 1:1 life?

[warped jackal]

sorry for the screenshot, my tool always seems to cut uff stuff xD

[remote narwhal]

Hey chase

Should I add chain in on my spark

[warped jackal]

would like to know that too, it seems pretty unclear to me. also - what does the number mean in the end hm. a percentage would be cool.-

[vagrant imp]

Idk if it's 1 to 1 life but stun threshold is based on max HP as a baseline

[signal jewel]

If I wanna run MoM and EB, do I need ES gear and passives or just more mana?

[remote narwhal]

More mana

[vagrant imp]

Es gear and more mana

[signal jewel]

So ES passives then? Like X% to ES

[vagrant imp]

No clue, I am not a spark enjoyer

[high path]

cool cheers guys

[remote narwhal]

Spark seems shit till mid game

[patent shell]

guys what is stronger electrocute + charged staff setup or skip charged staff and electrocute for 1 more dmg gem ?

[vagrant imp]

No, EB only cares about your base ES. Scroll up a bit and I explain how the conversion works.

[remote narwhal]

And I'm running a blood magic version rn

[elder plank]

Hello, does the Covering Ward node (and also the Hunker Down node) work with passive block? or only while active blocking? it doesnt say so, but i only found 1 node that truly states "Active Block" so i was wondering

[vagrant imp]

Spark is basically always good except mid-late act 2 normal

[warped jackal]

hmm i feel like the "normal" / "Passive" block should trigger that.

[vagrant imp]

It works passively and actively

[remote narwhal]

I soloed act 2 boss normal

[vagrant imp]

As long as the hit is blocked it will trigger

[remote narwhal]

But I'm also running seed of lazar on both rings

[vagrant imp]

I mean it's not trash then, just not great

[remote narwhal]

My only issue is I have to run dustbloom to keep up with my life cost

[vagrant imp]

Yeah blood mage is rough without high investment

[remote narwhal]

Mask of the sanquine face mask and dustbloom

40% crt chance

Soooo I think the investment was worth it over mana tempest early.

[solar ruin]

hi chat! any web to put my gear, weapons, stats and how I can upgrade build? for example, I want to see how my stats change if I buy something new, maybe I have less evasion but I gain % of something else or fire resistance.

[indigo plank]

Hey guys, is there any possible build for an aura-type of gameplay?

Something maybe with curses too?

[elder plank]

@warped jackal @vagrant imp thanks for the quick answer!

Am I also correct in the assumption that block nodes (e.g. +5% incr. block chance) is 5% of the block chance on my shield (multiplicative) and not additive, so if i have 26% on shield it's NOT 31%, but 5% of the 26% (so sth like 27%)?

[bright crypt]

Hello, im trying to make iron reflex build(converting evasion to armour). I have base 40 armour and base 312 evasion with all my items unequipped; i wonder what a warrior class would have in base armour and base evasion rating all items unequipped. Can a warrior share their base armour and evasion with everything unequipped?

[vagrant imp]

Yes it works like any other increase. The only exception is if something says +% block chance.

[warped jackal]

all increases should go into one pool, which then is applied to the base value i'd say

well i don't know about ascendancies? - are there nodes for shield builds in ascendancy tree?

[vagrant imp]

It's important to know that you want to scale armor rather than evasion. You want evasion on your gear but then you want % armor increases from the tree and jewellery to scale that.

Warbringer has shield nodes

[snow sierra]

Dos Apex of the Moment work on chrono ? its sooo hard to judge if it dos and it shows no debuff

[bright crypt]

i know, i wont use shield, i tried respec to armour nodes but making iron reflex build more efficient right now

[elder plank]

is iron freflex working the same way as in poe1 ?

[bright crypt]

thats why im asking. considering if i should make a armor/crossbow build with warrior instead

[vagrant imp]

Warrior has no innate bonuses to armor aside from starting closer to some armor nodes

[elder plank]

i thought it was working differently as in % armor applies before IR in poe2, hence IR wasnt as much worth it as it was in poe1, because there it worthed the other way around

[vagrant imp]

No, you cannot double dip in poe2

It is much worse

[elder plank]

as i thought

[bright crypt]

does warrior get base armour with level?

[elder plank]

i am lv. 40 jsut logged in, unequipped all armor. 0 armor value.

[vagrant imp]

No class gets base defenses with levels

Aside from hp

[bright crypt]

where does my 312 evasion comes from in the screenshot

didnt take +evasion nodes or no jewels of base + evasion

[vagrant imp]

There are flat nodes on the tree + any scaling

[elder plank]

is Eva still first layer before ES? when does block get calculated? has that already been figured out?
with IR not being as good, why would one stack Eva? 🤔

[snow sierra]

dos anyone know if apex of the moment works on chrono ? ive spend allready a million to try to figure it out

[bright crypt]

i know man but i didnt take them, im goin crazy

[vagrant imp]

To evade, evasion is very good.

Invoker also has a node that gives them phys reduction based on their evasion

[elder plank]

okay that's insanely good

[warped jackal]

i tried getting blind in somehow. i feel that can help too

i abused my elemental storm for it xD

but it's not very consistent...

[vagrant imp]

Something is missing, you must have something because you get no armor/evasion innately in poe

[tidal copper]

Maybe an annoint could help?

[warped jackal]

hmm i looked for some blind nodes, but most work with attacs or increase its effect, did i miss some? (i only have spell hits)

but yeah, my anoint gives me freeze immunity anywaays now (or at least, didn't get freezed for 15 maps or so?)

[mossy brook]

guys whats your take on a ice sorc for HCSSF?

[peak slate]

i skipped a boss in act3 first time the lady that gives 40 spirit, and i did it in cruel mode. is there a way i can fix my mistake and do the boss again ?

[vagrant imp]

You can just do it in normal, go to the Azak bog in normal, the quest is still there

[warped jackal]

i didn't play a meta build or similar and i currently still try to create a comet build. my main *problem are fast enemies. i'm not a HC player but it feels like you will die in situations where oyu should be more mobile

[peak slate]

the thing is

[mossy brook]

hmmm i played a lot of builds and lighting is often the way to go, so i thought with HC i might try ice, but i am not sure how good it is

[peak slate]

i wilkl show u my act 3

[vagrant imp]

Decent, but slow clear. Needs good ES gear built from another character imo

[slender fern]

whats the point of this can someone explain?

[warped jackal]

hm i never tried it, but what about mixing it? - freezing with this?

[vagrant imp]

You can evade slams and such

[warped jackal]

and then pushing dmg with this?

[vagrant imp]

Like from the quadrilla and other big monsters

[slender fern]

but then why reduce evasion rating when its the same?

[vagrant imp]

It's not the same, those attacks cannot be evaded without acro

[vagrant imp]

That's act 3 normal?

[peak slate]

yes,

[silent token]

any electric monk here on higher llvl i have few questions please

[vagrant imp]

Could you hover over one of the blue nodes for me?

[elder mural]

Anyone have a tips to help my rng to find 2 hand mace with +6 melee skill

[real drum]

Oof

If you find out let me know. I’m looking for a juicy scepter with plus 5

[thin basin]

rarity, trans aug every 2h mace you find, gamble gold, about it

[warped jackal]

what ilvl do you need for the highest +# level of X skill nodes

is tzhat the same for all? is there some place where they started a list with affixes per ilvl?