2┃build-planning

[warm prism]

Seems like a good way to go

[snow sierra]

Or go MoM if you have a way to deal with the manacost

[warm prism]

for INT, unless ur int stacking, its just for a higher mana pool

[solemn island]

Going hard into stun investment, hopefully it pays off in the long run, doing work now in Act 3 after getting Devastate and Armour Explosion

[bold saffron]

itll be equite expensive cuz ill also need to respec at least two asc points into the one that gives cast speed passive

[snow sierra]

Like my Chronomancer MoM Summoner works very well 😄

With stacking int

[bold saffron]

thats what i wanna try next, a mom build chrono

[final coral]

how do i know how much spirift left i need to make this work out

[bold saffron]

sounds insane strong as a concept

[barren jetty]

whats the best thing to do after story? what is the best route for atlas?

[bold saffron]

when ur low mana u just go back in time to full mana right

[celest oxide]

What runes should I put in my Armor on Lightning Deadeye, Res runes or martial runes?

[final coral]

60?

[snow sierra]

Its a bit strange until the 3 achendency map and you need a belt to make it work, but Temportal rift carrys you until then

[celest oxide]

Or Max Life

[bronze falcon]

monk is quite fun & strong IMO

I'm using power charges to keep Charged Staff active & occasionally clear rooms with Falling Thunder

Shock Wave as a sorta ranged attack option when I need it & Tempest Flurry + Tempest Bell for tankier mobs & bosses (this combo also works for general clearing, but I find Shock Wave + Falling Thunder to be faster for clearing so far)

[bold saffron]

can u drop ur tree? im just building a butt load of builds atm cuz endgame mob detonating drops quite a lot of frames

so i just make chars to endgame until they fix performance issues:D

loving mercenary holy fk its busted

[bronze falcon]

I'm in Act 5 and, while my monk is kinda squishy, he absolutely melts enemies

[bold saffron]

armor/evasion + clearing screens from lvl 15

[snow sierra]

sure but i by no means a good build creator just a casual summoner player

[bold saffron]

thats fine, it works, u can jsut dm the tree

im curious

[solemn island]

Hovering over the mana ball should show you your max and reserved spirit

[final coral]

jesus so thats x2 60

or else?

[ionic smelt]

It might be it :

[bronze falcon]

as far as how I'm getting charges, I'm using Profane Ritual on Reaper's Invocation for clearing (basically just get to top off my charges from the bodies of dead packs)

for bosses I just apply Shock + use Siphoning Strike to generate charges

@a.good.bean just wanted to clarify that in case you were thinking of trying it out

[snow sierra]

https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgcCa69H25glDe0NCM4HIph9WKPhbt5nn087_qzfo7FvneiVONQNc9eMsdpD8rgzv8CMONl0cjh86eCpJ68oSj-ADe9hwo4btdrGgJqPhQrn8LUWeQPE95fIwM3lGxaRr5fEKHhy4m-uvSn24KIFmYgYega9qLNeHxhbVsO4ktojF1c7nQjxkoHY5tUQLIO6EnXBuYa9Q03_MNa0Wia9tXHcveqRz4XIEMeDXz4N3nxY_0Rd0xR4ANVojpsgpaQH7mKYPG8qV3kFpzph7mNt-dOypDPEK2gOSPYAAA==

thats my build at

[bronze falcon]

early on you can just use Killing Palm and Siphoning Strike for charges, it'll be a bit before you have the INT to use Profane Ritual

[snow sierra]

the Mana recoup notes near mom are insanely important for it to work

wait

worked now

[light crow]

Does Giant blood make it so you can dual wield 2h or just have one 2h with an offhand?

[ruby fulcrum]

how to get my poisons higher than the 4 stack? it OCCASIONALLY goes to 5 and 6 but only for 0.5sec-1 second, if anyone can give insight, i would appreciate it

[snow sierra]

The start is very rough tho ^^

[bold saffron]

tyty

[weak knoll]

Hey, is it possible to have +Physical Damage stat on a witch weapon ?

[still rock]

No

[balmy turtle]

I have seen someone using sunder and it creates a second wave of spikes. How do I do this please ?

[weak knoll]

so wand and sceptre i believe ?

[weak knoll]

My build tells me to go for this bonus as bone spells are dealing physical damage

[still rock]

Shockwave

[still rock]

you want % spell physical damage

[weak knoll]

I don't quite get what i'm meant to build and nobody plays witch apparently

[clever swift]

If your poison limit is above 4, then increased attack speed and increased poison/ailment duration

[weak knoll]

do you find this on wand and sceptres ?

[snow sierra]

I am at t8 Maps atm so its for sure playable and works fine so far^^

[plain bear]

can ALL fire damage proc ignite? including "Extra fire damage" ?

[still rock]

you can yes

you also want +physical spell levels

[still rock]

yes

as long as its a hit

[ripe imp]

Woke up and got the unique fire to cold gloves and new staff. Swapped to a fireball/frost wall build for my Sorc and it’s pretty sexy so far. I’m sure a detailed guide on a similar build will pop up soon.

[plain bear]

aw hell yeah. trying to be lazy and let climate change proc my echoing flames without having to cast a nastydirtyfirespell

[bronze falcon]

according to someone in here earlier, it is similar to Shock

all Hits with Fire damage have a chance to Ignite & that chance scales with the damage of the applying Hit as well as other modifiers to Ignite chance

[keen sparrow]

is this channel time affected by skill/attack speed?

[balmy turtle]

Is shockwave a gem ? I can't seem to find it

[still rock]

the ignite will be small but i dont think it matters for you here

[keen sparrow]

nvm just hovered over it its not

[ruby fulcrum]

hey. i think it is. but i cant be sure..

[bronze falcon]

yeah I don't need big Ignites

[still rock]

its an effect generated by many things for slam skills, supports as well

[bronze falcon]

I just need to be able to do it lol

with some level of consistency

[rapid current]

So Cast on Freeze is nerfed what now?

[balmy turtle]

Oh ok. How do I gain that effect if you know ?

[bronze falcon]

invest more in Energy generation, or self-cast

[unborn flume]

+1 on this. What build are we pivoting too that we need to grind out skill tree changes?

[bronze falcon]

or change build lol

[scarlet oasis]

Is monk cooked since the cast on nerf?

[bronze falcon]

wasn't even using cast on for my main skill

monk fucks

[unborn flume]

Pretty much all the builds that used cast on took a hit.

[snow sierra]

i wish he had a good solution for spawning corpses

[coarse lake]

has anyone tried flame blast with solar orb to see if you can get it to proc from multiple solar orbs at once?

[zinc cipher]

im finally actually tanky as hell. this is cruel difficulty around same level

just hneed more resistance

[weak knoll]

I think i accidentely lost the keys for lachlann, does it mean i have to do the boss over again ?

[karmic fable]

Does anyone know the difference between the stats % increased critical damage bonus and % to critical damage bonus? Difference between "increase" and "to"?

[unborn flume]

How badly does this work if you picked the other ascendency?

[hoary ingot]

🗿 i might need better gloves or nah

[azure saffron]

If you take CI are you considered at low-life?

[fair notch]

Full life

[hoary ingot]

its% so no you are 1/1 hp full life

[azure saffron]

boo

[formal meadow]

Maximum Life for the infernalist nodes means all life right? Just with it saying maximum it’s making me think there’s a specific meaning

[cobalt helm]

i think im ready for a real build. ive been killing things relatively easily with this but im pretty sure if i keep doing what im doing my character is gonna be dead with no chance of recovery, can anyone help me w a build? i mainly wanna use my galvanic shards for AoE and either gas nades or high velo rounds for boss dps (if anyone could dm me to help me that'd be swag)

[timid mesa]

just got my first level 9 gem.. what skill should i get? im a lightning ranger, but i ofc can't get cast on shock or anything quite yet so

[bronze falcon]

try a Charged Staff + Tempest Bell build, use something like Tempest Flurry or Ice Strike (fast, frequent hits) to hit the bell & make sure you can consistently apply at least 2 if not 3 elemental ailments on hit

This setup doesn't depend heavily on any cast-on meta gems for it's primary damage skills (I'm only using CoS just to trigger Conductivity and Voltaic Mark automatically) and it does pretty solid damage in my experience. I'm in the middle of Cruel: Act 2 and my biggest issue is survivability at this point, the damage is more than sufficient to melt all bosses in under 10s so far.

[nova karma]

Hey, so I got a staff that has the modifiers 12% of damage done as extra fire and 13% of damage done as extra cold damage. (Does this apply to any damage I do?

[rapid current]

is there a place I can see all generation enhancing things or is it just gems?

[snow sierra]

you mean sorc Stormweaver ? Your dmg should be more then fine, but i would rework the defensive layer for sorc

[timid mesa]

just got my first level 9 gem.. what skill should i get? im a lightning ranger, but i ofc can't get cast on shock or anything quite yet so

[surreal veldt]

That's hilarious lol

[rich pine]

Is the block cap still 75% in poe2?

[cinder bramble]

does anyone know if vitality siphon (spell damage leeched as life) works for the dot from DoT from essence drain and contagion? I'm guessing not but they say "modifiers to spell damage applyy to dot" so maybe?

[formal night]

think it goes for more than 1 exal?

no phys dmg is bad right

[bronze falcon]

while looking at the skill tree or gems menus you can Ctrl+F for "Energy" / "Energy generation" or something like that

Off the top of my head I know there are some nodes for it in the top-right area of the tree somewhere, and there is a support gem that increases Energy gen on supported skills as well

[radiant elk]

nope. it's pretty terrible. you want mainly high amounts of dps on a bow and that bow has very little dmg on it

[clever swift]

If you hover over the word "leech" it says hits only

[vocal peak]

alternatively, use multiple projectiles support gem or dualstring bows for additional projectiles. Gas arrow is the main skill you want to be using.

[clever swift]

er, replied to wrong person, see above ^^

[sacred sail]

put it in a single exalt tab for a few day

if you don't know

[cinder bramble]

ahhh, right I should have checked that, thanks!

[velvet blade]

Does anyone know if you only have 1 life and there's an effect that takes away 10% of your life how that works? Does the effect just not trigger or do you go to 0.9 life?

[sacred sail]

I think you will lose one hp each time, it's alway rounded not in your favor

GGG is very mean to us

[rich pine]

Very rude :D

[velvet blade]

Well I haven't died while using Extraction support (sacrifice 10% of life on use) with CI so I'm curious if it's just not triggering

[rough folio]

would it be possable to use both magic and melee skills

sort of a battle mage type

[formal night]

my website is buged i hope everything is alright

[night pebble]

a full fire warrior build has more dmg than a full physical build right?

[rugged kraken]

lol free stuff!@

[alpine parrot]

does chaos dmg on ring affect poison damage, some people told me it would only affect first hit?

[bronze falcon]

he does a lot of Cold damage, so building Cold Resistance can definitely help in that fight

generally thought I think a good amount of his mechanics have one shot potential, but are generally telegraphed well, so just do your best to not take a lot of hits!

[gray ferry]

toughest part for geonor fight for me was always getting swarmed by the wolves

frost nova + unleash / bone cage helped

[zinc cipher]

I just want to share my build. It's 2H + shield. Sunder to one tap packs and Perfect Strike to chunk bosses as seen. So far im really happy a thematic build i cooked up is working so well, I wonder how itll do in the late game. Was rough at the start but I stuck to my warrrior till the end and im so glad i did. By the way this clip is on cruel mode act 3 using a normal mode weapon i crafted back in act3 normal mode. Normally if i had weapon same level as boss, it 3 to 4 taps them!

[gray ferry]

that looks sick

[snow sierra]

Jea looks cool

[formal night]

when i see myself dealing 100x less damage while getting oneshot by any of those attacks i get so confused. are people just overleveled or what?

[zinc cipher]

I invested heavily into armour and shields and STR stacking. The tankier i am the more dmg i do

[snow sierra]

More like experienced how to scale things or luck, in curel builds can rly start to take off

[merry musk]

guys im so curious about which clear skill should i stick for mapping. checking streamers, alkaizer using earthquake, carn using earthshatter. Which one is more efficient for mapping. appreciate for all suggests

[wheat horizon]

waht are some good support gems to use on wind dancer?

[azure saffron]

do critical strikes with fire damage always ignite like they do in Poe 1?

[zinc cipher]

yeah at the end of act3 i crafted myself some gear and it lasted until probably end of act3 cruel hopefully, would be nice to save on currency until i start maps

[silver stratus]

any good infernalist builds that isn't essence drain or minions

[calm wraith]

does glaciation work on freezing mark? giving 80% more freeze build up when hitting a marked enemy? and upping the nova free build up to 150%?

[snow sierra]

leveling kinda dos very little in poe2 in the campain unless you have luck with your skillgem drops or buy them

[calm wraith]

or maybe thats not how the freeze buildup stacks

[drowsy maple]

That's crazy, my sorc build had as much hp as you do between my hp/es/mana combined until I died to a one shot

[gray ferry]

Their armor probably helped a lot

[snow sierra]

He will die in later maps if he face tanks, at so moment it seems like it there is just not enough defensive layers in the game to facetank later maps^^

[north talon]

I don't think the issue is lack of defensive layers, I think it is more that the endgame is just not as tunned as the campaign resulting in one shots that are not intended

[snow sierra]

well if you are not overly gear/defensive optimized campain hits hard too, but if you scale defensive early one its just not this scary

[formal night]

sorry im dummy, "their gaze" means looking at them? close to them? them looking at me?

is them looking at me right

[ruby bluff]

man this update yesterday is really testing me to see if i even want to play

[north talon]

I think the only thing that actually 1 shot me in campaign was the big gorilla boss's slam

[gray ferry]

Same so far

[north talon]

And that slam didn't even always 1 shot me to be fair

[plain bear]

does stormcharged work with spell criticals?

[formal night]

im sorc that didnt bother with gear so every boss was oneshoting me with most attacks but thats how i enjoyed to play the game

[upbeat crow]

what do i choose at the act three for the venoms guys? im witchunter

[gray ferry]

I'm on a sorc too

[nimble light]

Any reason why Cast on Critical does not work when I have 100 unreserved Spirit?

[snow sierra]

The only boss i needed more then 2 trys on was the poisen guy in act 2 ^^

[fading scroll]

How does Snakepit Pearl Ring work with Fireball? Right Slot: Projectiles can Chain. The First Enemy gets hit (no explosion trigger) and chains to another enemy. does that enemy trigger the explosion now?

[past lake]

is gas grenade/exploding shot ranger still worth it after patch?

[snow sierra]

seems so

[gray ferry]

My biggest problem with the monkey boss though was actually the fact that the checkpoint had a tendency to spawn me in the middle of like 50 mobs omg

[formal night]

wao... you guys are so good

[snow sierra]

ppl fearing a second nerf considering its still very strong

[old shuttle]

What single target Chaos Skill should be using?

[snow sierra]

😛 more like rewinding time is op when you dont get oneshot

id like to try again please^^

[formal night]

sounds fun hehe :3

[old shuttle]

Or should I just keep sticking with Hexblast spam

[snow sierra]

Hexblast can be insanely good but needs alot of effort

[old shuttle]

Yeah I’m already kinda there

Just curious if I could do better vs bosses

[snow sierra]

doubt, it 2 more mods to scale on are just insane

[old shuttle]

But yea I have a 2x curse aura that is using to spam it

What support gems you recommend then?

Currently I’m using some terrible supports for it I think

[snow sierra]

Not sure but make sure atleast withered is stacked very high, if you dont do that your dmg should look kinda terrible against bosses

[old shuttle]

Also what’s a good way to stack either. I’m currently using Essence drain then totem to rapid fair the rebuff

Yeah I have the “4% dmg per second vs yellow/uniques”

200% damage bonus is nice haha

And 10% spell leech is real nice

[snow sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Kv5aYlhT8 maybe this helps abit, its a very very indetph video about hexblast scaling

[old shuttle]

Hey that’s what I ended up with ayo

[snow sierra]

Still its alot of effort you gotta put in^^

[regal widget]

so what does cast speed do for ED and Contagen other then just make them leave your hands faster?

[snow sierra]

if you know and unterstand all infos in this video i doubt anyone can tell you alot more is very well theorie craftet imo

[steady crescent]

Does anyone know if impending doom is worth trying to build for??

[hasty vault]

How does one use profane ritual on boss fights?

[weak knoll]

Is it normal thatm y spells dont go where i want them to go ? they're hitting at a random place smh

[snow sierra]

i had the problem too with some spells

i think its aim assist crap

[old shuttle]

Will look at the vid more tomorrow though. Seems good though to get some extra stuff. And yeah was looking at the siphon spell for dos up. Guess I’ll try that. Lotta mana though

I need more AOE too though D:

[snow sierra]

the boots are the solution for that

[old shuttle]

Oh do the boots give AOE?

[livid hamlet]

How exactly does bleed and poison work ?

[old shuttle]

What are the boot name RQ?

[livid hamlet]

how do i get better chance of poisoning ?

[still cove]

can some1 help me plz? im trying to get 90 spirit to run COS and herald of thunder. im currently at 108 spirit but it says 78/108. how do i get it to 108

[snow sierra]

they turn corpses into insane ae with this build so ye they do

corpswalker

[livid hamlet]

disable the one aura that uses 30 spirit

[still cove]

just did that now and it still wont let me. says i dont have enough spirit

[fair notch]

I'm rerolling, anyone have any ideas regarding phys spell/ warcry warbringer?

[solemn nymph]

Does anyone know if damage conversion follows the same order as poe 1?

[fair notch]

it doesnt, in several ways.

[snow sierra]

No i think they changed something there

[fair notch]

the damage that you're converting from wont be scaled, only the converted to -bit.

[lunar latch]

sorry to ask but is cast on freeze totally useless now?

[celest path]

Yes

[fair notch]

yes, rip

[still cove]

the reservation for cos says 60 also. and herald of thunder is 30. so that should be 90 right? im at 108 rn

[celest path]

Ggg thinks everyone quits their job

For redpeccing

Idiots

Respeccing

[snow sierra]

we need a stormweaver selfhel group lol^^

[celest path]

Its just dumb sorry

Nothing to do with the Nerf itself

[snow sierra]

i understand your frustration but it was sooo predicable

[celest path]

But being unable to respecc

[snow sierra]

ye they should make respecc cost 90% less for the first 2 weeks

when this heavy build breaking nerfs come in

[celest path]

For a lot of pppl that meins just means start a new char

[digital axle]

will do that mby 😄 we never know what they will do

[snow sierra]

I have like 10ex and 400k gold laying aroud that i dont touch just in hopes i can fix my build if they nerf it

[wooden hemlock]

Its infernalist dead after nerf or still good ?

[snow sierra]

why should infernalist be dead lol ?

Because you cant brain afk summon your minions ?

[digital axle]

tbh i started new char... any pro poe players here for some help/advice?

[celest path]

I have 10 k no orb and will not start the Game again 😂

[mint surge]

If i want a different ascendancy i have to start a new class ?

[hasty plover]

i saw something that makes power charges contribute to crit chance but i cant remember what it was, anyone know?

[distant canopy]

anyone know why i have 94/94 available unused spirit when i am in demon form, but i cant activate "withering presence" which only requires 30 spirit reservation? it says not enough spirit

[digital axle]

y

[celest path]

Cool or doom? 🤣

[snow sierra]

go minions allways minions

[digital axle]

nah, im dumb and want to go for chaos dmg, but run into some difficulities 😄

[celest path]

They fucked you and no just play Lightning Ranger Till nerfed again

🤣

[lunar latch]

are there any stormweaver viable builds now? haha

[snow sierra]

there is a chaos dmg bloodmage build but well, its a risky build to play

[fair notch]

spark, everyone's trying to convert, gl getting a decent wand under 200 ex

[regal widget]

justly are you using a weapon for the spirit? if so in demon form the weapons don't give you there effects

[celest path]

Not really .. maybe some Fire Build or smth like you need a lot of ubiques it works with fire and comet

But for a csuap player never reachable

[distant canopy]

my spirit goes from 194 to 94 when i shapeshift, 94 is still way higher than 30

[regal widget]

fair just wondering

[fair notch]

your weapon isnt counting

[distant canopy]

weapon and foci

[regal widget]

nether count in demon form from what i know

[distant canopy]

irrelevant here because i still have more than 30 spirit remaining while shape shifted

[fair notch]

ok gl

[distant canopy]

grim feast costs 30 spirit reservation and i can enable it

but if i disable grim feast i cant enable withering presence

which costs the same amount

no supports in either

[regal widget]

not sure then. unless you have a spirit user in demon form it self that is causing it to bug out

is your stats high enough for the aura y our trying to use is the only other thing i can think of

[distant canopy]

yea i can use it outside of demon form

[regal widget]

like are you getting int from your weapon or focus

[pseudo charm]

does + to melee gems apply to warcries?

[distant canopy]

as soon as i enable demonform it deactivates

[devout dew]

can anyone here that plays Invoker Monk dm me please

[snow sierra]

i only know changes in spirt just fk things up

[regal widget]

check to see if your getting int from your weapon and or focus

[snow sierra]

with minions and what is summoned etc

[regal widget]

you would lose that int soon as you go into demon form and there for might not be able to use withering

[distant canopy]

my weapon is giving me 5 int but i have 122 int and the ability requires 83 int

[fair notch]

Man, I was thinking of reroling acolyte for the luls, but it sure does look like shit

[regal widget]

that is the only other thing i can think of

[maiden karma]

What about your gear's int requirements

[devout dew]

anyone??

[distant canopy]

it's possible that because demon form does +5 to all spell skills that it increases the int requirement to be more than 122-5

[maiden karma]

That too potentially

[regal widget]

from what ive seen it does not effect the int cost

[distant canopy]

then i have no idea what might be happening

[regal widget]

but like franken said it could be taken off another piece of gear losing more int

[distant canopy]

only int i lose when i shapeshift is the 5 int from my weapon, foci has no int

[regal widget]

what about chest piece, helm, gloves, boots, what are there requeirments

[devout dew]

or does no onw play monk here

[regal widget]

if it goes lower then 117 it would drop them off as well

if they need that or higher

[distant canopy]

none of them are above 90 requirement

[regal widget]

ok now i am really lost

[distant canopy]

highest is 88

[maiden karma]

[distant canopy]

i know dude ive been trying to get to the bottom of this cause it doesnt mean sense but i have to be missing something

doesnt make sense*

[gritty junco]

why can't I support herald of ash with fiery explosion? what's causing the ignite? the attack or the herald?

[regal widget]

i have heard that it might not count some other pieces of gear in deamon form as well, but not sure if it's true or not.

best i could tell you is check yo ur stats screen when in demon form

[distant canopy]

oh i just realized the 122 is already after the 5 has been taken away, i have 128 outside of demonform

so more than plenty int requirement

[regal widget]

lol ok now it super makes no since

[maiden karma]

Herald is causing the ignite and it doesn't hit so you can't support it with that

[gritty junco]

oh boo

[distant canopy]

nothing makes sense to me because grim feast costs the exact same amount of spirit and i CAN cast it in demon form, but disabling it will still not allow me to enable withering whatever

[regal widget]

also do you have any other things in withering that up it's spirit cost?

[distant canopy]

empty just like grim feast

[regal widget]

weird

[frigid ermine]

Is there somewhere we can see what mods can roll on each piece of gear?

[regal widget]

what are both of there skill levels

[maiden karma]

Poe2db.tw

[frigid ermine]

Also
What have you found to work the best btween mana on kill/ leech and mana regen ?
Ice monk struggling here

[distant canopy]

withering presence: 10 grim feast: 11

[marsh dawn]

Anyone got some good support gem suggestions for wind dancer?

[formal night]

support gems make it cost more

[regal widget]

not sure man mine uses at 12 with spirt in demon form

[distant canopy]

oh i put the gems back in

let me take them out again

[formal night]

hm

meow meow

[distant canopy]

but meanwhile here is grim feast

same exact reservation but it will let me enable it

[regal widget]

that is really weird.

it lets me use ether or with a higher spell level

are you just getting on or been on for a decent bit?

[distant canopy]

you mean today? i got on about an hour ago

[regal widget]

checking to see if you got a patch or something that made things funky

[meager tulip]

Hello! Quick question. How long does it take to go from lvl 62 to 77. Thanks!

[regal widget]

yeah I am at as much of a loss as you man it should work

[distant canopy]

answer: how close are you to a event horizon?

[static plinth]

Try reloading, that seems to fix quite a few issues like that

[dense harness]

what are some jewel affixes to hunt for on a frost invoker? quarterstaff damage, frost damage?

[regal widget]

i have not taken that one yet

[dusty bear]

How much spirit can you realistically get in midgame ish?

[distant canopy]

i dunno man im just going to leave it on the back burner and just put my passive supports into grim feast cause i can use it even though it doesnt actually benefit me because ive got my energy shield pool converted into health regen so i cant generage energy shield from grim feast

[dim cipher]

why am I seeing this error with blasphemy while using a wand?

[distant canopy]

blasphemy requires a curse slotted to work

[dim cipher]

I've slotted it previously and it worked. was this a bug introduced with the patch or something?

[distant canopy]

gotta put a curse in that hoe

[dim cipher]

oh

that did it!

[distant canopy]

i gotchu

[static plinth]

Incorrect Weapon Type is what it defaults to i think

[regal widget]

i need to get some gold for a bit of a respec and will head for event horisen to see if it bugs out that skill justly

will let you know when i can get to it

[static plinth]

What are we checking if Event Horizon breaks?

[solemn island]

What's the passive called that gives you your minions damage buffs/debuffs?

[distant canopy]

dont get too close, you may find yourself trapped in a temporal paradox where time means nothing and everything simultaneously

[white viper]

where can i check damage/magnitude of my ignite?

[regal widget]

lol

[pale saddle]

I get 90% evasion without Acrobatics and 70% with it, what would be best to run? Have to say acrobatucs feels the best since maps has tons of aoe ground damage

[distant canopy]

mathew mchronogay had that happen to him once i saw it first hand it was rough

[calm kite]

best option between the three ?
25% increased stun threshold (red)
30% increased elemental ailment threshold (green)
25% increased mana regen rate (blue)

[digital axle]

hello there, poe pros
does hex bloom work with decaying hex?
anyone tried?

[distant canopy]

i dunno why it wouldnt astranar, ive been spreading curses by using decaying support along side of contagion

and contagion spreads the curse because of the decay dot

[unreal vault]

anyone know whats pulling me out of demon form randomly?

[distant canopy]

trying to cast spells that you dont have the int requirement for

because your weapon and foci are not "equipped" in shapeshift form

[regal widget]

or from the weapon you techinicaly don't have equiped

[solar harbor]

is reducing enemy resistance and applying exposure redundant?

like... is it the same thing?

or does it actually stack?

[static plinth]

Hitting 1 life?

[solar harbor]

i can apply 50% exposure with incinerate, but i can also apply 30% less fire res with flamability but i am not sure if that is waste of time

[digital axle]

sadly it doesnt work.... just tested 😦

[static plinth]

It stacks

[unreal vault]

where do i see the new int value requirement? because when i hover over contagion outside of from it says 61, and while in form it still says 61

[solar harbor]

perfect thanks for the reply

[dusty bear]

How much spirit can you realistically get in midgame?

[distant canopy]

you just need to press C and make sure that your current INT inside of demon form is higher than 61

int requirement doesnt change, your current amount of total int changes if you have int on weapon OR offhand foci since they arent actually "equipped" while shapeshifted

you can get over 300 possibly over 400 spirit

you can get spirit on gear as well as weapon

[regal widget]

the weapon and off hand thing i find stupid as hell. i mean the form has hands and could use such things

[zinc cipher]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1316831194884735056

If anyone's lookin for a warrior build, I've posted mine up :))

[regal widget]

i could see a druid turning into a bear would not be able to use such though

[distant canopy]

i agree it sucks that if you make a build where you stay permanently in demon form, you essentially have 2 less pieces of gear than everyone else

[solemn island]

Isn't there a passive that shares minion damage buffs with you?

[regal widget]

there is a 2 handed weapon that does

a unique mace

[solemn island]

Oh, the int Unga Bunga

[regal widget]

yep

i don't think there is a passive tree one for it though. at least not in path 2

[solemn island]

What was it's name again?

That's it

[distant canopy]

ive noticed a special effect happens in demon form when an enemy dies with a curse on them, it causes a big swirl of black energy to coalesce around you

[dusty bear]

with or without infernalist ascendancy?

[distant canopy]

im not sure what isw happening

[devout dew]

was this build nerfed to the ground ??? --- https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/don-cold-monk?weaponSet=set1

[white viper]

does life leach work on elemental damage?

[solemn island]

And once again thought a unique item was a passive

[regal widget]

it normaly says the dmg type that it works with patel

most the time it's physical

[distant canopy]

i dont even see anything in the infernalist tree that gives additional spirit

[solemn island]

Depends on how you have the life leech, what damage procs it

[white viper]

oh so the one on the tree doesnt give you any? its just a multiplier?

[still rock]

As long as the dmg is a hit (cant leech with dots) and doesnt explicitly say leech with physical attacks or anything then yes

[distant canopy]

oh i see

[regal widget]

yeah that. was trying to point that out just now lol

[distant canopy]

yea you could get over 500-600 with this probably

[still rock]

correct you have to have a source of leech for increased leech to work

[delicate carbon]

whats the best new sorceress build??

[white viper]

ah ok, thanks for clearing that up

[distant canopy]

the one that you enjoy the most

[spark belfry]

Which one would you guys say is better? Left one has 2 runes for the elemental damage

[distant canopy]

left one

[regal widget]

i would say the right one since you can always add sockets

[white viper]

is there any easy source of elemental leach or you need to get lucky with equipment rolls

[distant canopy]

right one can be better if it had good sockets for sure

[still rock]

Right one has higher dps as it is and has two rune slots to be used

[regal widget]

what papa said lol

[distant canopy]

can you explain how the right one has more dps

[still rock]

dmg divided by attacks per second

[spark belfry]

I do get increased dps with the right one slightly on my skills

and that's without sockets

[snow ridge]

is ailment strength affected by crit multiplier in poe2?

[distant canopy]

left: 86.53 right: 108 yea i guess that checks out, it's cause the high 59 potential lightning damage

[north talon]

I wonder if they are going to partial revert supercharged slam. Probably not knowing GGG, but it feels so undertunned compared to the other big stun payoffs now. Hammer of the gods does more than twice the damage which being faster and safer, perfect strike hits just as hard or harder while being faster and safer. Both of those also scale with skill and attack speed while supercharged does not. I am sad now. Big bonk is not bonk enough.

[still rock]

Depends on the ailment but technically yes because if you crit with higher crit bonus youll do more damage and for a lot of ailments more damage = higher amt of ailment

[snow ridge]

kk thankyou. In POE1 i believe crit multipler didnt apply to ailments (been many years since I played) so i didnt know if they changed.

[devout dew]

im sry if my question keepts getting missed - im just trying to make a confirmation if this build website has been adjusted to the nerfs that happened to the build in question - can anyone verify if the changes that were done to the build has either improved it or is Cold Monk dead in the water and cant be fixed --- https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/don-cold-monk?weaponSet=set1

[snow ridge]

mainly wondering about elemental ailments and if these crit nodes are worth getting for a shock/ignite build

[fair rose]

are minions gonna get nerfed?

[distant canopy]

base hit damage determines ailment potency, higher crit damage bonus results in higher base hit damage

[snow ridge]

see by wording alone I would thinkg base hit daamge was BEFORE crits lol

[distant canopy]

i could see that

[still rock]

Ailments cannot crit, to be clear. But the higher dmg from critting with more crit bonus will give you a better ignite, for example. For shock its just a higher chance

[snow ridge]

ty for the help. gonna be nice when wiki pages are accurate with how the formulas wokr

oh so shock duration is always the same?

for some reason I thought in poe2 shock duration was based on hit damage

[queen current]

Can i have multiple "cast on shock" gems, each one attached to the same lightning spell?

[still rock]

Only thing the hit damage scales for shock is the chance

[distant canopy]

i dont think you can have multiple of any type of gems

[grave gazelle]

Hey I'm not here to minmax or anything, but I'm trying to play a lightning sorcerer and I'm only level 13. Any advice for how many skill points to put into defences like energy shields etc? 80% damage 20% defence or so?

[static plinth]

Yes, but they cant share any supports

[spark belfry]

Ailment chance still confuses me tbh. I guess it's because you can't see it as a stat anywhere. I tried using siphoning strike as Monk but it felt like I could never get shock going despite having a lot of shock chance passive skills

[snow ridge]

you can have multiple skill gems. I had 2 different arcs in a temp build once.

[still rock]

Unless youre Gemli

[snow ridge]

one was supported for max clear, other for bosses

[distant canopy]

nice i didnt know that

[snow ridge]

gemli is just for 2x support

[distant canopy]

i really dislike not being able to use multiple of the same support on different spells

[still rock]

Try out Gemli

[distant canopy]

is that a talent or a gearpiece

[still rock]

Gemling Legionnaire

[still cove]

asked earlier but nobody knew what was wrong so hoping someone new might know why it will not let me use this skill? i have the required spirit for it

[static plinth]

Ascension Class

[still rock]

Ascendancy for Merc

[static plinth]

Try putting a skill gem in it

[still rock]

I'm trying to popularize the phrase Gemli cause it's fun and hip

[distant canopy]

you have to slot a spell into cast on shock

[static plinth]

After seeing how strong quality is im def looking at it again

[snow ridge]

honestly me too, especially with how much weaker support gems are on average compared to poe1. Maybe theyre trying to make it so there's hardly any pressure to have 5 or 6 links since youre unlikely to have any good supports for them left anyway?

[snow ridge]

to be fair, gemling legionaire is a really long ascendency name, and I knew exactly what you were talkinga bout despite not hearing it before lol

[still cove]

i did that but didnt work

[still rock]

I think some skills will be hard to do in certain areas of the tree but Gemli seems overall good

[north talon]

I mean the idea is to not have all your skills just use the 5 best damage support all the time

[still cove]

how do i do that?

[north talon]

because if I could reuse gems, that is what I'd be doing

[still rock]

It increases the engagement with the gem system

[distant canopy]

create a spell and put in into the support sockets

[still rock]

I love it

[distant canopy]

instead of a support gem put a skill gem

[opal goblet]

So let me get this straight, If I have a flame wall up and it ignites someone, then I hit them with say a hammer of the gods and did another ignite, ONLY the hammer ignite (presumably the larger one) will be active and the fire wall is a moot point?

[still rock]

Correct

[north talon]

It lets gems with useful effects have a place in the game and not just get outcompeted by 35% more damage

[opal goblet]

So Ignite is just complete garbage. Gotcha

[snow ridge]

but arent there way fewer +damage supports that dont have pretty big downsides in poe2?

[still rock]

Weird conclusion but ok

[north talon]

I mean... I can pretty easily slot in 5 % More damage gems in a skill

[distant canopy]

i think he just wants the ability to stack ignites and if he cant have that he doesnt want anything

[still rock]

Poison is there for that

[regal widget]

oh so hex blast does temp remove a curse that is on blasphemy when you use it so that support for more dmg when a curse is removed should work with it. it just gets reapplied really quickly

[still rock]

Ignite is more about increasing tick speed

flavor wise

[maiden karma]

Idk about ignite but poison is definitely bad

[snow ridge]

im not sure if flamewall is supposed to be that good for fire builds, I always thought it was a way for multi ele builds to get use out of ignite without needing any +ignite chance nodes.

i know nothing about fire builds in poe2 though so

[still rock]

Maybe it's just how you built it tbf

[maiden karma]

The poison skills are concentrated ass

[still rock]

Builds are far from optimized and the games been out for less than a week

[north talon]

IE: Brutality, Heavy Swing, Rageforged, Concentrated Effect, Heft.
No interesting effects but 5 big more damage effects

[snow ridge]

im pretty sure the best poison skills are gona be for swords and daggers

or claws (primal?)

[opal goblet]

Nah, but it was just the general idea. There are nodes for ignite ALL OVER the place on the tree. But scaling it seems like a bad idea. Only the 1 strongest ignite is ever active, I'd rather just pump all fire damage (which technically scales the ignite) and just focus on fire hits because If i scalled ignite, i could spam 5 different spells at someone and only one will ever have an active ignite.

[maiden karma]

Yeah but that's later

[tidal copper]

Does close combat work as a more dmg multiplier???!??!?! in tree()

[torn flame]

Dot is fucked to deal dot damage pray for a huge crit.

[old venture]

i'm still in act 1, the woods, am I coping trying to go for witch for the infernalist demon form?

the demon form looks really interesting but i'm hearing a lot of negativity around it

[maiden karma]

Demon form is horrible

[still rock]

The thing is that increasing fire damage scales both the hit and the ignite so if you balance your tree in taking both you can potentially have more dps in total

[snow ridge]

whats base ignite damage in poe2? ive seen conflicting numbers

[old venture]

worth a reroll? before i started my first char i was thinking of either infernalist or chronomancer

[still rock]

It is based off the hit damage

[snow ridge]

yeah I mean the % and duration

[opal goblet]

Yeah, i just like the idea on focusing on the DOT to get the constant damage, but that just isn't really viable. You'd pretty much ALWAYS be better off just scaling the hit with the ignite as just an extra dps dick.

[snow ridge]

like is is 20% per second for 4 seconds or something?

[north talon]

Scaling ignite is still useful since it is a differnt bucket of scaling, so it will multiply the already increased damage from other nodes

[maiden karma]

[still rock]

Look at the tooltip for ignite magnitude potentially, I'm not sure the actual calculation

[snow ridge]

yeah no one is 😢 ive been finding lots of different numbers when looking i tup

[north talon]

So if you have say 100% increased damage, and then 20% increased ignite magnitude, your ignite is based on 240% of your base damage essentially. Have to do math to determine how worth that is compared to more damage but scaling multiple things is not bad inherently.

[maiden karma]

You can't attack 24/7 in most content, the whole point of ignite is it allows you to focus on moving around while still having full damage uptime

[snow ridge]

oh perfect

whred oyu find that

[still rock]

tooltip for ignite

[near jewel]

does INCREASED ATTACK DAMAGE apply to my totems?

[snow ridge]

LMAO it was never that big for me. I wonder if its because I play on controller?

[still rock]

I took it from poedb but I assume its the same in game

on my phone rn

[maiden karma]

If the totems attack then yes

[snow ridge]

wait no youre right, im an idiot

[near jewel]

I guess so, then?

[still rock]

yes

says attack

then it do be attacking

[rapid stirrup]

DID DEADEYE GET NERFED TOO?! IS IT GONNA?! IM SCARED

(my friend is a sorc player and hes in shambles)

[snow ridge]

no one knows whats GONNA get nerfed

[mild flower]

what is the best character and build for fast clean and not gonna get nerfed

[maiden karma]

Nothing

[mild flower]

chrono sorc is terrible so i need something new

[maiden karma]

Everything is terrible

[mild flower]

not like chrono dude trust me

[maiden karma]

You are destined to suffer for eternity

[placid haven]

what monk skill is that ?

[fringe quiver]

hahahaha

[nimble sun]

guys, what gear can have spirit sub stat? only body armour and amulet?

[last patio]

has anyone tested something like cast on crit with contagion and dark effegy?

[severe nexus]

Hey, I'm following CaptainLance9 spark build. I just compared our gear and trees. He currently got 869 Mana on gear + 1128 ES on Gear, his tree is at 437% maximum ES.

While I have 939 mana on gear + 1049 ES, and on my tree Ive got 439% maximum ES.

So can someone explain how he has 5k ES and 4K mana while i only have 4,3k es and 3,4k mana. Yes I have the Everlasting Gaze at 30%.

[old venture]

no one's going chronomancer?

[fringe quiver]

cause everyone wants the game on easy mode

[mild flower]

na there is no good build with decent clear speed so everyone playing other

[old venture]

ah i see

[tulip pivot]

how come my level 38 cross can go up to 100% physical while my level 48 only goes to 40% max?
sorry idk how to take screenshot while pressing alt to see min and max possible values

[maiden karma]

Different tier rolls

[frank kestrel]

How do you get more spirit on a monk? I just have 30 and Im in ACT3

[distant canopy]

spirit can roll as a stat on armor

and some weapons

[mild flower]

you will get +30 with mission and other than that u can buy an armor

[snow sierra]

i am a minion chronomancer and its fun

[frank kestrel]

ok

[old venture]

how does that work? 😮

[snow sierra]

very good so far t11 maps and climbing

[thin swallow]

Guys what's better between increase cold damage and increased freeze buildup ?

[maiden karma]

Nobody is aware of the secret pathfinder minion build

[last patio]

what of the chronomancer skills are you actuall combo'ing with?

[snow sierra]

i have a minion deadeye build planned^^

[maiden karma]

[snow sierra]

i abused recoup effects and the temporal rift is insanely strong

[last patio]

there's no skill/node to make recoup effects work for minions is there?

[snow sierra]

minions dont need help, you need to not die 😛

[last patio]

oh lol

[maiden karma]

Finally someone who gets it

[snow sierra]

So i running MoM with Midnight braid, to get the most out of the recoup buffs chrono gives, and have a high mana/hp pool that i can reset with temporal rift

[hardy haven]

Anyone knows if Culling Strike and Decimating strike work for totems?

[last patio]

I was just about to build a infernalist because I have 2 uniques that give a total of 150% mana regen, but now I'm wondering if I wanna build minion on another class instead >>

[gray ferry]

does mana regen affect Pyromantic Pact? 🤔

[maiden karma]

No

[gray ferry]

I see ty

[snow sierra]

Infernalist is just the save and most clear pick for minions^^

[covert tide]

It does. My whole build revolves around it. I posted mine on Mobalytics. It should be the 2nd top under community for blood mages.

[gray ferry]

I kind of want to try infernalist with totems

[chrome summit]

Anyway, jank or otherwise, to increase enemy stun threshold or decrease the stun damage I do? Yes, I want to stun enemies less. I don't want to Heavy Stun enemies when they are primed.

[maiden karma]

What

[static plinth]

Come again?

[gray ferry]

Does this apply to totems though? I know totems don't typically count as allies..

[static plinth]

Yes, because it affects You

[gray ferry]

Wonderful

[vital hornet]

In what way?

[last patio]

I also kind of want to make a chalula monk with cast on crit + dark effegy + contagion and essence drain build,

[gray ferry]

ty

[last patio]

idk if it would work because of the nerfs to cast on gems

[snow sierra]

Totems are a extension of you while minions are not

[distant canopy]

yo cholula is a fire hotsauce no cap

ong

[chrome summit]

Seismic Cry will occasionally Heavy Stun an enemy and not reset it's own cooldown instantly, I'd like it to do that less

[last patio]

omnom

[maiden karma]

Totems are you, but you are not totems

[snow sierra]

^^

[gray ferry]

🤔

[sudden axle]

is forking the result of a failed pierce happen by default? or do you need to aquire forking another way?

[distant canopy]

be the totem you wish to see in the world

[manic delta]

For any lightning ranger dudes. Have you tried respeccing from the lightning nodes to full crit on the tree above? https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/d5ey50hp

[maiden karma]

Pierce takes priority

[silent wing]

Alright guys, been looking at getting into block a bit and realized that block chance isn't additive anymore but multiplicative from the base value. Got a 46% block shield and 7%block chance jewels. 6% ones give 3 block each (6% rounds up to 3 total block chance seemingly while the 7% is rounded down) Now, I don't have the money to test but would a 5% block chance increase on a node or jewel in turn be rounded down because it's value in relation to the base being 1.05*46=48,3? If yes, then what happens to that .3? Is it remembered for future calculations? Core reason for me trying to figure this out is if it's irrelevant to go for 7% rolled jewels if the 6%ers are always rounded up and the missing .X isn't remembered

EDIT: Remembered now that when I had a 40% block shield the 6% increase jewel would actually amount to only a 2% total block increase. 40*1,06=42,4 So it would be rounded down there, big question then is if two of said jewels would amount to 44,8 and be rounded up to 45 or be rounded down to 44 somehow

[manic delta]

I wonder if the crit nodes and base attack passive points are better than elemental damage.

[sudden axle]

@maiden karma right but how do you aquire the ability to Fork? or do you gain it by default from failed pierces?

[maiden karma]

It doesn't happen by default, need to find a source for it. Snakepit ring is an example

[mild flower]

cant find a build with a decent clear speed

[sudden axle]

ah dang ok I guess ill stay away from those nodes for now

[fair notch]

did someone have stats over most and least played ascendancies?

[still rock]

@maiden karma off topic but I mained Juno goalie for a while, loved that game

:0

[maiden karma]

[north talon]

% Increased block chance is all summed together then applied. It is not wasteful to get 7% instead of 6%.

[silent wing]

Thanks, saves me the currency to make sure

[last patio]

can anyone test cast on crit + contagion? I'm not high enough level to get it to test the energy requirement for cast

[loud kiln]

Guys, how much sacred water do I need to get 1 golden key?

[distant canopy]

i just gave cast on crit + contagion a sobriety test. it passed. color me surprised

[bronze falcon]

@short mango maybe you can answer this question

since the Charged Staff buff applies to all staff attacks

if I put supports like Cold Infusion or that one Electrocute gem onto Charged Staff, will those effects then also apply to all my quarterstaff attacks while Charged Staff is active?

[short mango]

they'll only affect the AoE being launched from the charged staff. so electrocute would likely work there but cold infusion would be a hinderance

so the shockwave and the 1-6 dmg per charge when consumd will be effected.

[uncut ibex]

When something says "x% of damage added as chaos" what is the "damage" it's refering to?

[mystic patrol]

anyone got a good build for a lightning foccused invoker ? I did my pasive tree blind without playing poe ever and it turned out good , I do good damage to bosses but the issue is my trashmob clear on endgame maps is so fking slow it's anoying . my only way of clearing mobs is a windup skill that takes ages , but at least it 1sshots

[fair notch]

all damage

[still rock]

Hit damage

Not Damage over time

[bronze falcon]

I'm thinking of swapping over to the Frenzy charge conversion setup, but I don't really have a lot of avenues to Freeze things with my skills, so maybe I can just rely on Electrocute?

[short mango]

my only freeze source is ice strike. that's plenty for me

[radiant sparrow]

I feel like my cast on shock isnt ever casting. Meanwhile Im blatantly shocking enemies. So much so that they are getting fully stun locked because of the shock meter. And yet my arc still just isnt casting.

[devout dew]

i havent picked an ascendency yet - how do i reset my skillpoints?

[uncut ibex]

so it wouldn't matter what kind of damage the hit was? it would use that number?

[short mango]

you will need something like snipers mark for bosses though. if they dont' die hyper fast

[pine glen]

yo fellow lightning rangers, what are you rocking now that cast at shock is nerfed hard?

[short mango]

especially if you don't have increased power charge duration. and can hold off on casting charged staff until the boss jumping into arena animation is close to over

[still rock]

Correct gain % extra is applied at the final step of dmg calculation, so you take the final hit, sum up all the damage types and then add your gain % extra on top like free dmg pudding

[uncut ibex]

thank you so much!

[vapid zephyr]

Does eldritch battery work with things like grim feast?

[short mango]

basically my only freeze buildup. i have 1 other 15% node idk if i even need

[bronze falcon]

I was thinking of adding Sniper's Mark to CoS for that very reason lol

[short mango]

tbf i did put glaciation on my ice strike

so i'm always freezing with ice strikes last hit

anything but bosses

for boss freezing. you'd want more freeze buildup. and glaciation attached to bell instead. not a plan for me though I don't think

[bronze falcon]

Yeah I'm looking for a way to get semi consistent Freeze without having to actually use an ice skill

[short mango]

not for awhile

that's quite unlikely.

your better off using the frenzy with electrocute

[silver warren]

Can wildfire reignite the original ignite target after it loses its ignite?

[bronze falcon]

I'll see how well it sustains with just Electrocute on Charged Staff

[silver warren]

From a secondary ignite on another enemy

[bronze falcon]

hopefully that's enough

[humble sedge]

im currently in Act 2 and it seems that my Evasion Rating is capped at 65% even after getting way past 650 evasion, this means that if you can get to 1000 evasion rating then getting the ...And Protect Me From Harm node would actually be useful because it wouldnt nerf your evasion % at all

[short mango]

you'll get less dmg from the charged staff. so long as that doesn't bother you then why not.

[sly minnow]

guys pls help

[royal hamlet]

How much hp it requires? it only consumes soldieres and not archers

[sly minnow]

is crit chance increase also for spells??? or does it have to state it

[hoary ingot]

chat could this be any good for chronomancer if not im thinking of trading it

[royal hamlet]

no, its crit chance for spells

[peak solstice]

Whats the highest str requirement for a mace/hammer?

[sly minnow]

ok

[short mango]

hmm protect me from harm is a node I'd like. but i don't even know if it would give me much pdr

[snow sierra]

dosnt seem good to me

[short mango]

this is sadly still my best armor 😦

[humble sedge]

monk?

[short mango]

ya lol. i haven't picked up any body armors that beat it yet. pretty sad ik

[minor root]

is this better for weapon than 20% physical dmg if i play gas grenades?

[short mango]

at 44

20% dr on first hit taken. and then an extra 100 evasion after being hit. that 20% is very nice on boss hits that i happen to barely miss a roll on

[severe nexus]

can someone explain to me how EB work ? if i have 5k ES will it add 5K to mana ?

this scaling is making me sad 😦

[mellow escarp]

How do Stages work? Does increasing cast speed increasing stage gain rate? is it some kind of flat rate? or what?

[dawn bronze]

anyone used this for lvvvling?

[pure otter]

Does this mean you cant place any two banners at once or you cant place the same one twice

[fair notch]

anyone playing warcries warbringer?

[strange ivy]

does infernalist SRS need a 2nd aura ? just found my 2nd spirit gem

[opaque bluff]

steelmage is if you check twitch

[crude sedge]

I was building into extra projectiles to get my fireball crazy but I realized it also charges up ember fussilade faster which is a nice buff for boss battles

[oblique marlin]

its not working
how to get +10% res from it? nothing

[short mango]

lmk how the experiment works i'm curious. i like the freezing effect of ice strike. but wouldn't mind going back to lightening. it's damage is higher. the last hit of ice strike is slow

[still rock]

Either situation is correct

[undone mortar]

It's 100% working

There's a message in your chatbox when you click on it

[oblique marlin]

i used it many times, +10 not added

[undone mortar]

idk what to tell you, works on my end

[oblique marlin]

wear off all your gear you will see lightning at 0% still

[bronze falcon]

I'll be sure to keep you posted!

[short mango]

@bronze falcon but ice strike teleports me . . . i'll miss that

[undone mortar]

If you're in act 2, your base res is -10.

[still rock]

You get -10% all res after every act

[undone mortar]

So if it's 0, then it's working.

[native ice]

Does chaotic freeze work with decaying hex?

[undone mortar]

So, again, it's 100% working.

[gray verge]

IS there a way to "lock" weapons so you can swap gems/passives without recrafting them

[still rock]

is it 100% increased working or 100% more working

[undone mortar]

100% nearby working

xdd

[still rock]

In the presence of working

[shrewd raptor]

for this despair gem, does curse effect modifier and exposure effect both amplify chaos res removed?

[undone mortar]

Should affect both

[native ice]

There's a chaos exposure effect?

[shrewd raptor]

thanks, wasn't sure if it was time or res removed

[still rock]

Curse effect modifier affects the exposure effect, since that's what the curse does

[alpine mural]

why the fuck ice shot has less damage compared to lightning arrow if you also lose the ability to freeze? doesnt make any sense

u just lose stuff for nothing

[still rock]

And the exposure effect is the chaos res being removed

Just to be clear on how all that works

[last patio]

what is the base critical strike on flicker strike?

is it the same crit as your weapon?

[shrewd raptor]

ah, thanks @still rock

[rough kelp]

how do gain damage % as x work? Like if I do the same damage type will it stack?

[still rock]

So 30% = -30% res at 100% curse effectiveness(which varies by monster type and other things, etc)

[bronze falcon]

click the arrow next to the skill's DPS stat in the skill gems menus

[still rock]

Cursing bosses has a lower curse effectiveness, for example

[still rock]

#2┃build-planning message

[still rock]

Yes, attacks base crit will use your weapon sheet's crit value

[last patio]

ok thanks

[quick axle]

How does the increased damage from shock work? Is it applied after everything as a 1.2x modifier?

[last patio]

so my idea is a chayula monk with cast on crit + contagion

[undone mortar]

It increases the damage the monster takes

[last patio]

and maybe use dark effegy and flicker strike for the easy crits

[undone mortar]

Which is calculated as 'increased damage taken'

So it's additive with modifiers that increase that

[quick axle]

Right, but by a flat 20% or is it additive with other shit

So then its applied after everything else

[last patio]

BUT I can't test how many crits are required for cast on crit with dark efegy yet T_T

[still rock]

I believe it's applied beforehand since it is the monster taking more damage, not your damage increasing if that makes sense. But regardless it's effectively additive like other increased damage modifiers

[undone mortar]

Yes, after everything else

[rough kelp]

so if I were to deal like 10k dmg and have 400% dmg gain as chaos dmg it would quin that dmg?

[quick axle]

So then shock is effectively 20% more damage?

[still rock]

no

[undone mortar]

But separately from effects that care about how much damage the monster RECEIVES

[shrewd raptor]

so if i understand this right, base gem will remove 33%, and +25% from heightened curses support gem for a total of 55%. and 1.3x mult using strip away?

[twilit cairn]

Warrior question; Does Totems scale off of weapon dmg, or how do i improve its dmg?

[undone mortar]

So it's not used to calc how much magnitude an ailment does, for example

[shrewd raptor]

assuming 100% effectiveness

[undone mortar]

20% shock will not deal 20% more ailment magnitude for instance

it'll just do extra HP damage

[quick axle]

Right but i did 100 damage, then i apply shock, it would then do 120 damage, yes?

[undone mortar]

The monster will TAKE 120

You still only dealt 100

[quick axle]

Right right

[undone mortar]

Do you understand the distinction?

[still rock]

Yes if you hit for 10,000 damage and had 400% of gain extra, you would deal 50,000 damage in total after the 40,000 gain extra was added

[quick axle]

Yes

[undone mortar]

👍

[quick axle]

So we can't pen res below 0% right?

[undone mortar]

Correct

[quick axle]

And exposure also can't reduce below 20%?

[undone mortar]

It can

Same with curses that reduce res

They're separate effects

[quick axle]

So what would happen

if you did 100 damage

had 75% pen, then applied shock, and then applied exposure

How much damage would the monster take

[undone mortar]

If the monster had 0 res, it would take 100. If it was exposed -20%, then you would deal 120 damage

[quick axle]

And what if you had shock on top of that?

Would it be 120 x 1.2?

[still rock]

Add them all together in the socket and tell me the value, I'm not sure of the order there

[undone mortar]

If it was shocked, it would take 120 x 1.2 yeah

[quick axle]

So then exposure and shock are effectively more modifiers?

[still rock]

i think strip away goes first, and the heightened curse would increase that total

[undone mortar]

Kind of, but they apply additively with other sources of increasing damage taken

I'm not sure which applies in what order

[quick axle]

But only in their same buckets right?

Like exposure is a dif bucket than shock

[undone mortar]

If you want to use the bucket analogy, sure

[urban sequoia]

what haoppens if electrocution builds up on an enemy ?

[quick axle]

im trying to fix my stormweaver lol. I was using cof (Didnt look up streamers, or guides, just figured out early it was strong) and since its completely gutted, trying to go with lightning

[warped ridge]

Can resistance penetration go into negatives? (and does it scale well?)

[quick axle]

And im seeing some possible synergies with shock and exposure

[quick axle]

So im wondering how it'll all work

[undone mortar]

Penetration doesn't go negative no

[quick axle]

Do we even know how much res monsters have in maps?

Like, how much pen is actually needed

[warped ridge]

so if someone has 10% res and I have 20% res pen, it doesnt treat it as if they have -10% res for damage calcs?

[undone mortar]

No, it simply negates the 10% res.

[still rock]

They work together and very effectively since it increases the dmg the monster receives, that's abt all you need without getting too much in the weeds

[quick axle]

Do we have any idea how much pen is "ideal"?

Should i work on the full 75%

[still rock]

As for pen and resistances - unsure yet but someone may know

[quick axle]

hmm

[winter gale]

will they bring back cast on freeze?

[undone mortar]

Sometimes you can run into rares that are resistant and also have an affix that adds res. They're very tough if you don't have pen.

[still rock]

If I recall correctly monsters also have the 75% cap and 90% possible max but I don't know how much the monsters baseline have

[undone mortar]

And monsters have inherent res based on the monster

So it really is situational

[quick axle]

Damn, i thought monsters could only have 75%

[undone mortar]

You REAAALLLY notice it if you don't have pen though.

[shrewd raptor]

unfortunately game doesnt math it for me, pics are just (1) base gem and (2) with strip away heightened curse. but order aside i think i get how they work which is more important

[still rock]

If they have + max res it can go up to 90

[quick axle]

I mean pen is multiplicative right

[still rock]

90 is like the hard cap 75 is the soft cap

[atomic halo]

75% is the base cap, further modifiers may increase it to 90% but are quite rare

[undone mortar]

wdym multiplicative

[quick axle]

If you did 100 damage, and then had 20% pen, you would do 120 damage assuming they had 20 res right?

[twilit cairn]

Warrior question; Does Totems scale off of weapon dmg, or how do I improve its dmg?

[undone mortar]

Res just reduces damage taken by that amount as a percentage

[still rock]

Ah, funny way how they add it

But yeah you get the gist

[dreamy wren]

why does me taking something turn off some of the things that glow someone pls help 😭

[still rock]

that's all you really need to know

[quick axle]

Wait no i see where i messed that up

They would take 80 damage, but then you pen, so you would do your full 100 damage

[undone mortar]

Yep

Exposure is like -res, like from a curse

But it applies separaetly and only once per exposure type

So it CAN take a monster negative

[quick axle]

If i take something that reduces range, and then add something that increases range, how does that work?

Does the increase apply, and then the reduction?

or vice versa

[carmine escarp]

Infernalist Demon Form - Is your weapon a stat stick while shifted or do you lose all its stats?

[undone mortar]

Increase and Reduce are just additive

[vapid zephyr]

I am going to cook the 1 hp mind over matter sorc

[undone mortar]

So just add them

30% increased and 15% reduced just means 15% increased total

More and Less keywords are multipliers

[still rock]

@shrewd raptor Hmm, I'm backtracking now after reading Strip Away tooltip. I don't believe this works on curses, since the curse -res is technically a seperate effect from exposure although they do similar things

Which is probably why the game didn't math it

[young meteor]

Does anyone know how to get demon form to work with spirit skills like cast on ignite?*

[urban sequoia]

ty

[quick axle]

Yeah, im confused

one sec

[still rock]

Despair curse debuff and exposure effectively do the same things so it's confusing, but curse debuffs are not exposure explicitly

[tacit cliff]

If I have 100% of cold damage converted to chaos damage and 25% damage added as extra chaos does the base cold damage get converted first or added as extra?

[shrewd raptor]

huh, well that is good to know, and not confusing at all lol

[undone mortar]

Conversion happens first

[tacit cliff]

So the added as extra is useless now?

[still rock]

The reason this is actually better for the player, though, is because for other damage types (fire, light, cold) you can stack a curse debuff and exposure together

[quick axle]

Why does this only increase it to 3.6 radius?

shouldnt it be closer to 5 radius if the math is 3.2x 1,4?

[undone mortar]

is it only added to cold damage?

[shrewd raptor]

on the upside at least it should open up a gem slot for the curse

[still rock]

But chaos exposure doesn't exist AFAIK

[undone mortar]

Because it scales the AREA not the RADIUS

pi r^2

so increases to the area are not exponential

[shrewd raptor]

thats kinda cool tho

[undone mortar]

they just increase the total area of that equation

[tacit cliff]

Added as chaos. So let’s assume I have a 100 damage cold skill that gets 100% conversion and 25% added as chaos

[still rock]

Geometry lesson everyone get in your seat 🪑

[undone mortar]

No no

Reread

[tacit cliff]

Do I have 100 chaos damage or 125 chaos damage at the end

[undone mortar]

Does it say '25% of ALL DAMAGE is added as extra'

[quick axle]

And how would this one work since its increased and not more?

[undone mortar]

Or does it say '25% of COLD DAMAGE'

[tacit cliff]

Damag

[undone mortar]

Then it's fine

[tacit cliff]

Okay cool lol

[undone mortar]

25% of chaos damage added as chaos damage is still 25% more damage

[tacit cliff]

Having to relearn all this and its different is getting me

Thanks for help

[still rock]

TLDR x% gain as extra is very stronk

👍

[undone mortar]

So if your total area is X, that makes it X x (1+0.4)

[tacit cliff]

But not as strong as poe1

[mossy turret]

How is the Chronomancer Hammer build feeling? Was thinking of swapping over after cast on freeze nerfs last night

[undone mortar]

In poe1 such a mod would apply before conversion

So it was double or triple dipping

[quick axle]

So its the same as the support gem?

[rough kelp]

Would this be good with bloodmage?

[undone mortar]

With the support that would turn into X x (1+0.4) x 1.4

(40% more from support gem)

[still rock]

yes and no, it's better in some scenarios

i think

[keen viper]

How do multiple "Less" mods stack together? E.g. - If I take Acrobatics (70% less) and "Protect me from Harm" (40% less), would 100 evasion get cut to 18? Or 0?

[undone mortar]

They're multiplicative

So x0.7 x0.4

[atomic halo]

0.7 * 0.4 = 0.28

[hushed viper]

Hello, can I ask why the one on the left does more damage? Where the one on the right has better stats no?

[atomic halo]

if they said reduced it would go to 0

[reef valley]

Is there no NPC for item Gambling that can be put into your own hideout?

[atomic halo]

why do u have phys dmg runes on the right

it doesnt have phys

[sonic shuttle]

When the damage is converted from physical to lightnign does it still get the damage bonus from physical or does it take it only from lighning then?

[atomic halo]

only from lightning

[sonic shuttle]

Thanks

[hidden perch]

if you use chaos innoculation are you always on full life?

[hushed viper]

bc idk what Im doing lmao

[undone mortar]

Yes

You're always at 1/1 life

[hidden perch]

ok, ty

[still rock]

All % increased dmg types happen only after damage conversion in this game

[sonic shuttle]

Okay

Thanks

[hidden perch]

how does attack damage scale? Is it good to get?

[topaz tulip]

I know cast-on-freeze (and others) was nerfed, but how do supports work with it? If you link a support for the triggered spell, does it take effect?

[atomic halo]

if you add/average the flat damage, left is approx 50+20+10 = 80, right is about 45

[keen viper]

So 70% less means "70% of previous value" and not "reduced by 70%"? So 0.7x instead of x-0.7x

[atomic halo]

yeah

it's not reduced because reduced is its own thing

70% less = multiply by (1-0.7)

[pure otter]

What is this?

[hushed viper]

Lost me boss, how do I determine those numbers?

[undone mortar]

Erm... should be multiply by 0.3

[atomic halo]

jewels are items you can socket there, they can grant stats themselves or grant bonuses for allocating passives within radius

[atomic halo]

[undone mortar]

[pure otter]

oh thats cool havent seen any of them yet

[still rock]

got his ass

[undone mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shower-xd-cat-xd-sad-cat-gif-27478302

So invoker node and acrobatics should be 18% evasion total

[atomic halo]

inc. attack dmg, more attack dmg, inc. atkspd, more atkspd, adds # to # damage on ur wep, adds # to # damage to attacks, etc. many more

[undone mortar]

.3 * .6

[hidden perch]

I mean it literally says 30% increased attack damage

[atomic halo]

so your attack damage is increased by 30%

[still rock]

big brain shit going on rn

[atomic halo]

you need to ask your question better

[last patio]

I think I may have come up with a good cast on freeze contagion chayula monk build >>

[still rock]

Whats the purpose of contagion there

[hidden perch]

how do you check attack damage? I don't know how much that 30% is if I don't know to what and how much it applies

[twilit cairn]

Warrior question; Does Totems scale off of weapon dmg, or how do I improve its dmg?

[opaque steppe]

I have a question,
Is the build cast on freeze comet sorceress is still playable despite the nerf ?

[atomic halo]

it applies to attack damage dealt by yourself and proxies

any skill you use that is an attack

because it says increased, it's additive with other modifiers granting increased damage

[hidden perch]

ok, but how do you check it? I'm not finding it on C or G, unless it's "damage per second"

[atomic halo]

check what

[undone mortar]

That is the damage per second, estimated. Yes.

[atomic halo]

how much dps ur getting?

[undone mortar]

Click the arrow

[hidden perch]

ok, ty*

[undone mortar]

To get more detail

[still rock]

simple way to put it is
wep dmg * the skills atk % value = attack dmg
attack dmg * your increased modifiers = dmg dealt

[hidden perch]

meaning it scales off the base damage, and doesn't multiply with the other modifiers, right?

[atomic halo]

wdym doesnt multiply with other modifiers

if you deal 100 base damage, and you have 100% more and 100% increased

you deal 400

[still rock]

Sorry broke it up to be more clear

[hidden perch]

yes, what I mean is if you have 100% increased and 50% increased you'll deal 250% of the base damage

right?

[still rock]

crazy mafs

[undone mortar]

You will deal 150% increased damage.

[still rock]

100 + 50

=

250

[hidden perch]

yes but that is 250% of the base damage

[still rock]

[undone mortar]

So technically yes, it's "250% of base damage" if you count '0% increased' as '100% damage' yes.

But uh

Don't do the math that way

It'll just confuse you

Consider only the additional damage

[hidden perch]

yes

[obsidian grove]

what is the difference between mana regen and mana recovery

[undone mortar]

Just do (base) x (1+sum of increased) x (more%)

[still rock]

recovery applies to all things that recover mana

mana regen affects your passive mana regeneration

[thick canopy]

How useful is maim really? It decreases the enemies evasion but if you have 100% accuracy aren’t you going to hit them or am I misunderstanding?

[obsidian grove]

like flask

[still rock]

It should

[last patio]

is chayula monk required to do good damage with chaos dot? or could an invoker do good chaos dot damage as well?

[undone mortar]

The tooltip accurancy is only an estimate

[steep copper]

do curses lower resistane below 0?

[undone mortar]

They can yes

[crystal root]

Is the explosion from poison cloud/fire “elemental damage”?

[undone mortar]

It's fire damage, so yes.

[carmine escarp]

Nothing is really making chaos dot work well atm, from my understanding

[steep copper]

so i need 50 pen + curse to be optimal with it?

[thick canopy]

Do you think it’s worth running?

[undone mortar]

Maim is useful for reducing move speed of mobs mainly

[karmic bronze]

does zealot'

[undone mortar]

So you can get away

[karmic bronze]

does zealot's oath and eternal youth work together? not sure how to interpret "energy shield does not recharge" when combined with "life recharges instead of energy shield"

[undone mortar]

I can't really discuss optimal anything sorry

Game is too new

[thick canopy]

Hmm might not be good for me then my build perma stuns the enemy

[steep copper]

i mean, do we know if all mobs have 50 res? i think i heard it somewhere

[undone mortar]

No one knows such a thing

[carmine escarp]

Also, Chayula doesn’t offer much in the way of augmenting chaos damage. They just offer circumstantial “extra” chaos damage.

[undone mortar]

But mobs have inherent res based on who they are

[last patio]

I want to make a cast on freeze invoker monk with all my nodes on chaos damage and contagion essence drain in cast on freeze, that or chayula if necessary for actual dot

oh

bummer

[karmic bronze]

and also does paying skill costs with life interrupt eternal youth recharge?

[undone mortar]

Yes

[still rock]

Did they make monster data server side? I remember it being dataminable previously

[undone mortar]

That data was always sus

[karmic bronze]

was this to me?

[undone mortar]

And wrong

[still rock]

Fair

👌

[undone mortar]

Yes.

[tired citrus]

if i put a support gem in cast on ignite, it is gonna interact with the other socketed gems ye ?

if possible i assume

[still rock]

If possible yes

[tired citrus]

for ex if i have two curses like this and then i put a curse modifier

[atomic halo]

it just works

[hidden perch]

"50% increased evasion rating if energy shield recharge has started in the past 2 seconds"
Eternal youth makes it so energy shield recharge now applies to life, so if you use a flask to recover your energy shield does that activate the effect above or not?

[undone mortar]

No

[hidden perch]

ty

[vapid zephyr]

Do bonuses that occur at full energy shields work when you have no shields? Like in the case of eldritch battery

[undone mortar]

The flask doesn't cause it to start recharging

It just recovers it

[hidden perch]

yep, thought so, ty

[undone mortar]

No

[vapid zephyr]

Darn

[undone mortar]

0 ES doesn't count as 'on full ES'

[vapid zephyr]

0/0!!!

[still rock]

Additionally, wouldn't taking eternal youth just completely disable the "50% increased evasion rating if energy shield recharge has started in the past 2 seconds"?

Unsure how that wording works

[undone mortar]

It would yes

[neat laurel]

how does one stack enough evasion on a pathfinder

[undone mortar]

Generally in POE, negatives override all positives.

If something says 'never do X' it overrides all 'always do X'

[neat laurel]

maxed out on resistances and ahve 2k hp more or less which is like 300-400 hp less than the people i ahve seen chilling at like T12+ maps

so just wondering how to prevent random one shots from endgame mechanics

[undone mortar]

So

What's killing you

90% chance it's either chaos damage or phys damage

[neat laurel]

cant really say, sometimes I will open a breach and everything will be fine but then a random projectile hits me and I just go poof

[undone mortar]

open a breach