2┃build-planning

[plain osprey]

and then we get to the ranger, about which the game has a "Cultist Bow" which deals exclusively chaos-damage but she has NOTHING regarding chaos in her natural attribue area

[silent prawn]

poison doesn't scale with Chaos dmg from what I hear

[plain osprey]

yet all if not most ranger-abilities use their weapon's damage as a base for their poison etc

[quartz narwhal]

Because ranger poison is about scaling phys DMG and chance to poison

[lean vine]

But it's not "out of the general class gameplay" to build for chaos if the ascendancy is...chaos based, right?

[quartz narwhal]

Whereas chayula is more about scaling the dot portion without necessarily having the biggest up front hit

[plain osprey]

but poison is chaos damage, which would make you think it would stack better with a bow that deals... chaos damage

[quartz narwhal]

They both work, just work differently

[neat dew]

Ranger can still go for the DoT variant of poison

[quartz narwhal]

Ranger has never had chaos damage anywhere near her tree and has also always been the pre eminent poison class

[silent prawn]

Attacks vs Spells
Also there is a big cluster with wooping 76% chaos dmg close by

[neat dew]

Chaos poison ranger is pretty accessible and strong rn

[ornate bluff]

The forum post you linked is from 2021, and doesn't say anything explicitly about this topic, and the very video you linked claims the opposite of what you're stating lol

[lean vine]

Ah I see what you meant there now

[crystal fable]

Anyone here playing CoF Comet Sorcerer? Could use some help

[lean vine]

Trying to make a melee class use magic

[twin coral]

Is there a passive that makes it so you can’t crit anymore
Got this lightning lucky passive and I’m wondering

1. Can lightning crit
2. Can I turn off crit to benefit this lucky
3. If it can, is it actually worth it to turn off my crits so I can get lucky lightning?

[warm delta]

Read the author of the post explaining the files they hexedit to datamine...

[ornate bluff]

One question, is this the same for poe1?

[silent prawn]

we might get Chaos Attacks once Shadow comes around

[silent prawn]

Ask, someone might know

[warm delta]

Theres tradeoffs like careful assassin, where you sacrifice crit dmg for crit hit chance 🤷

[ornate bluff]

What does that have to do with this? I know how to datamine poe1, I've done it myself

[plain osprey]

yes but you need to use spells for the most part unless you strictly stick to mantra of destruction + hand of chayula, which is what my issue is with the monk skilltree - very little spell-attributes which doesn't look like it's a viable thing in comparison to electro/ice of which there are far more lightning-attributes for example

[warm delta]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-press-la-noire-gif-18717264

[olive sapphire]

Is blood magic worth it on warrior?

[crystal fable]

How can I freeze bosses more reliably? I can't get enough comets to come down on bosses/rares so I pretty much have to spam frost wall as my frostbolt isn't freezing bosses/rares

[ornate bluff]

Didn't answer my question

[cedar nova]

Has anybody here built a sorc chaos build?

[trim nexus]

which

[warm delta]

What question? You just said you dont know whether reversing poe1 is the same process as poe2. I accept your ignorance

[full meadow]

cold damage applies faster freeze buildup, right?

as in, more i mean

[ornate bluff]

"What does that have to do with this?" Explain how the thread you linked applies to the process of poe2 datamining and how it furthers your argument that it was and is impossible to datamine poe2?

[gloomy void]

How does warrior scale best? It's weapon damage right? I have +6 on melee skills, but I think I would do more damage with a higher DPS mace and no + melee skills, or less.

[warm delta]

Im doing it. Wouldnt recommend. Solo its kills but not as fast as a good cold/lightning build

[full meadow]

depends mostly on the skill you're using, not the class.

but likely weapon damage

[silent prawn]

Well you could to Phys to Chaos 😄

[gloomy void]

Sunder is amazing, but this game makes you use all the skills. (Mostly use Leap slam, Totem, Sunder and Earthquake)

[twin coral]

Found it, resolute technique
I wonder if this is good with lightning merc

[cedar nova]

honestly if its fun thats all that matters to me im thinking about waht builts to try next and i just got a good wand for chaos so figured it would be fun to try

i really want to do some sort of chaos build but not sure what to go for

is there chaos necro?

[dapper canyon]

Hey! My friend is lvl 15, she plays fire sorcerer, but wants to change to ice build. Should she make a new character or just respec?

[north talon]

First gear upgrade in 30 levels but it finally lined up for my Giant's Grip reduced attribute 2 hander :D. Not perfect but actually usable

[crisp latch]

so is this item not real? it's on poe2db, but there aren't any up for trade

[full meadow]

yeah, it makes you use a few. +gem level i heard is still really good for physical skills.
+gem level, then raw damage

[warm delta]

Respect as long as they want the same ascendency they originally chose. Its cheap, like ~800 gold per point

[twin coral]

Can elemental damage critically hit

[silent prawn]

likely act 4-6 with are not in EA yet

[gloomy void]

Damn, this is quite insane tho.

[silent prawn]

in what context?

[gloomy void]

It's better to aim for both then? 1 has 3 melee skills, but 1 should suffice?

[crisp latch]

oh good call, ty

[north talon]

I spend 200k gambling for a 35% reduced attribute base and then finally got a good set of slams

[warm delta]

Do yoy want more leech?

[gloomy void]

Insane. You use the dual 2h node?

[full meadow]

id think so. i havent tested melee myself specifically, but you can get a +1 cheap (or from the shop), or even test with different level gems to see the difference

[twin coral]

I shoot someone with galvanic shot
Does it critically hit

[gloomy void]

That's true, thanks!

[north talon]

Giant's Grip, but I am playing 2H + Shield not duel 2 Handers

[full meadow]

id imagine +gem levels is going to win out, but you will also need high raw as well

[silent prawn]

Crit chance is from your weapon. so yes

[gloomy void]

Right right.

[twin coral]

Right but Poe 1 elemental damage doesn’t crit

[north talon]

+Gem levels is good, but it does pretty notably also can increase mana costs kind of a lot which can be problematic in some low mana setups

[gloomy void]

I have been using "Blood Magic" for a while now, but renders my mana potion completely useless. Any way to make use out of it?

[dapper canyon]

@warm delta okay thanks! But what about the "uncut support and skill gems"?

[ornate bluff]

https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/1118165205025828884/1314383305969373245 There's a link to the actual creator of poedb explaining how this works on this very discord server, but alright

[twin coral]

Ok: lightning merc running “lightning rod” notable: “your non critical hits are lucky”
Is resolute technique keystone good with this?: “enemies cannot evade your attacks. You cannot critically strike”

Or would I lose damage

[lavish forge]

hi just wanted to ask for builds and using mobalytics does the use this ingame button not work for anyone else?

[uncut bay]

does it mean when I use a spell that does freeze buildup, there is a 10% chance that I will instantly freeze the target?

[unreal girder]

It works, if you lack accuracy

Take it

[twin coral]

Wasn’t thinking of accuracy problems
Was thinking of trying to make my lightning damage lucky

[night wagon]

how would i go about adding this spport gem to another skill, when i already have it equipped to a different skill

[trim nexus]

is this worth it

[graceful drum]

you dont, apparently

unless you mean resocket it

in which case, right click

[plain osprey]

okay i have come to the conclusion that Acolyte of Chayula Monk is unfinished, which is a big disappointment
the ascendancy perks appeal to very few weapons (leech req. physical, very few chaos abilities), the attributes regarding chaos are way past any lightning/ice attributes in the skilltree of which especially ice-monk seems to be stupid strong atm
if there isn't a secret trick to make this "very late game" ascendancy stupid-strong, then it just seems incomplete and in dire need of chaos-abilities

[night wagon]

i saw someone on youtube have 2 of the same support gems on 2 different skills

[twin coral]

The mercenary ascendency “gemling legionnaire”

[tawdry marten]

is this good for sorceress?

[indigo berry]

Guys, does recoup has cap ?

[plain osprey]

with chaos inoculation being in the monk's attribue path you'd think "oh shit, immune to chaos damage. let me pick Mind over Matter" just to realize it's in the complete opposite direction, requiring another 18 attribute points just to get there

[tiny gyro]

does this node work with cast on freeze? or just elemental invocation? if it's only elemental invocation im wondering if i can use that instead of cast on freeze for like frostbolt+comet?

[silent prawn]

which part?
the mana or the dmg?

[rocky pilot]

For my fellow titan enjoyers, what do yall think? 1h mace + shield or should it be 2h mace?
i've been going 2h mace but im starting to wonder if the damage difference is even big enough to justify it over a shield.

Giant's blood seems to be near impossible to pull off in its current triple attribute state so my plan of 2h + shield is kinda gone

[tiny gyro]

the first line. the mana

[silent prawn]

also you should be able to Hover over the Invoke to read a description what in entails

[plain osprey]

i did that just now again and still don'T know what the fuck an invocation spell is

[graceful drum]

press alt and hover over "invoke"

[exotic mantle]

Is 100 spirit all we get without bonuses from gear?

[plain osprey]

ah right that clears things up thanks!

lmfao

[sonic steppe]

I am 2h+ shield. But I'll be changing to 2H

[pearl orbit]

cold sorc op i highly rec

[rocky pilot]

you'll be dropping giants blood?

[pearl orbit]

[gloomy void]

I've been doing Giants Blood very early on and although I am still at the end of act 3 and things have been quite slow, I am doing very fine on damage. Bosses are much harder I suppose, but always been able to kill stuff. Unfortunately the next mace I have found is 67 str (not a very good one I might add) and I can't wear that yet, unsure if I can keep it up with attributes. I will keep going.

[sonic steppe]

For now. Triple attribute is too hard to keep up at current act leveling.

[plain osprey]

would love to see how cold sorc would keep up in Utzaal

[exotic mantle]

I'm going fire sorc but probably I'd be better off going for another element so I can get the exposure and surge nodes

[pearl orbit]

im gonna assume fairly well ngl im kinda just obliterating everything atm

[graceful drum]

invocations

[rocky pilot]

yeah thats my problem too. at endgame maces are getting like 135 str, meaning yo uneed over 400 str just to wear them without reduced attribute mod

i just don't see a way to sustain that right now

[pearl orbit]

cast on freeze cold snap is DISGUSTING for mapping

[lavish forge]

im gonna try that ty for the ref, do u by any chance got any spare cold gear i can trade for i can give what i can if not np

[gloomy void]

Game is pretty early, you might end up with 1k str, as there are some % str nodes I think.

[exotic mantle]

I wanna try cast on ignite but I don't think I can play without blink now that I got used to blink

[plain osprey]

my monk dies almost instantly if a group of mobs attacks me, it's so sad
i tried to get out of the initial area of Utzaal 7 times before i gave up

[tulip dagger]

Hey would elemental discharge work with the +damage on ailment nodes or would it consume them before they boost the damage?

[sonic steppe]

End game is probanly easier, i guess. I am at act 1 cruel currently and equipment is restricting me from changing due to str requirement.

[pearl orbit]

i don't atm, i keep vendor all my shit so i can gamble more lmao. but i used a +1 cold spell wand with 30% spell damage for most of the way so far

[pearl orbit]

that's brutal, i will keep you updated

one thing i can say is frost wall also nutty

[plain osprey]

[exotic mantle]

Frost wall is goated

[sterile stone]

to anyone that plays minion infernalist, is the dog good? or is it better to go straight for life to spirit?

[exotic mantle]

Buys time while I charge flameblast

Ice nova + unleash is also kinda sick as a defensive last resort

I've avoided a ton on deaths with it

Are people on sorc all building energy shield?

[gloomy void]

• What to do with you mana flask if you have "Blood Magic"? (All mana reduced to 0, all mana cost is life cost for skills)
• With "Blood Magic", does reduced/increased mana cost make it so reduce life is reduced/increased?
  Can't seem to find answers for this.

[lavish forge]

also got a question when re making a build do you have to re get all skill gems and such or is there a way to reset that stuff aswell

[neat laurel]

are support gem effects amplified if I use a level 3 support gem on a level 1 support skill ?

[plain osprey]

idk if i can upload this here but this is my experience in utzaal so far, and other than completely exchanging my gear and spending a day to farm/craft BiS a/suffix gear idk what to do

[keen dagger]

Melee Monk is kind of completely and utterly fucked at end game due to non-existence of suppression in PoE2

[pearl orbit]

right now my setup for cold sorc is:
ice nova -> unleash -> encumberance (emergency fuck off me button)
frost bomb -> spell cascade -> fast forward (exposure effect for bosses/rares)
frostbolt -> acceleration -> scattershot -> arcane tempo (main skill, just spam it always)
cast of freeze -> cold snap ->controlled destruction -> magnified effect (triggers whenever ur frostbolts or wall freeze something and then nukes it)
frost wall -> glaciation -> frost nexus (good for "leave me alone" and cheesing mobs into corners, and blocking hordes, and if u drop it on big mobs it detonates automatically dealing a lot of dmg)
hypothermia ->heightened curse -> expanse (curse is dmg is good yes)

[sterile stone]

mana flask does nothing, and reduce mana cost does not reduce life cost

[pearl orbit]

just wait
MoM EB CI int stack monk will be top tier when people have gear

[keen dagger]

Yeah but how are you going to get through maps to get that gear

[craggy hearth]

Ask ggg to fix it and my build is godtier, im so mad it doesnt works

[pearl orbit]

u play something else first :^)

[plain osprey]

this what i was talking about earlier, you seem to have to compeltely respec most of your attributes to do that when you reach end game

[uncut bay]

as sorceress should I go for armor/ES or evasion?

[plain osprey]

mind over matter is in a completely different direction from you natural chaos-monk attribute line too

[gloomy void]

Exactly. Is there a way to make it do something or replace it? Maybe there are unique flasks for it? Feels like I am just wasting an entire flask. (Still fine so far gameplay wise, just wondering) and reduce mana cost is nice, so I can just take all those passive nodes?

[night wagon]

does anyone know why my raging spirits dont spawn when i use the flame wall spell?

[exotic mantle]

Oh maybe I should switch to encumbrance too

[pearl orbit]

yeah but

[exotic mantle]

I have glaciation on my nova

But I have no other sources of cold dmg

So I'm realistically not freezing anything ever

[true gate]

Is there a list of the skills that can be used with cast on freeze / cast on ignite anywhere?

[pearl orbit]

trust try the wall

any big mob, drop the wall on its head

[sterile stone]

i said reduce mana cost does NOT reduce life cost, theres a unique that enables 2 life flask if they decide to put it in the game

[pearl orbit]

if u have glaciation on it its a practically guaranteed freeze

[exotic mantle]

I do use the wall but it doesn't really do much damage

[tulip dagger]

I think people have been liking Cast on Freeze w/ Cold Snap so they immediately blow up?

[pearl orbit]

it doesnt do the dmg

it applies the freeze

[unkempt nexus]

anyone know what the twinkling effect on mobs means when you're playing merc?

[exotic mantle]

I could try that yeah, my wall support is pretty free

[pearl orbit]

and ur cold snap does the hurt

[exotic mantle]

Yeah I'm not cold sorc tho I just use those 2 skills for utility

[pearl orbit]

oh fair

then yeah that prob won't work

[desert juniper]

Guys I think Demonic Form is bugged, I am putting Intelligent Nodes nodes from the Tree and my Mana does not increase. I also used the item that increases your max hp by 8% from first act Manor Optional boss and my HP did not increase. Anybody knows?

[exotic mantle]

But it makes sense I'll try glaciation on wall and encumbrance on nova

I can chill through ascendancy but I can't freeze with my fire dmg

[tidal copper]

Why would the bug be in the demonic form specifically

[pearl orbit]

yeah true

[exotic mantle]

The only way to go higher than 100 spirit is through mods on gear right?

[fading ether]

i have unleash and glacification on nova, and spell cascade and magnified effect on frost bomb

cold snap i have hourglass

[pearl orbit]

i cant use hourglass i freeze too often, would lose a lot of dps

[desert juniper]

I was using the Witch and no issues. After I got my 2nd ascendancy, I have been in permanent Demonic form, and I just noticed my mana not going up for a long while. So I payed attention, and my attribute nodes dont work. Also the quest items that reward you with extra stats dont work either...

[pearl orbit]

but if ur not using it to clear thats a good shout

[dawn spire]

Those can trigger any spell, I believe. Read the yellow text on them to see if there are any exceptions

[muted charm]

does anyone know if one with the storm works with 0 charges?

[tidal copper]

You sure it's not anything about demonic forms text

[pearl orbit]

also @plain osprey ur best bet is most likely going freeze until u get gear

[dawn spire]

Have you tried relogging?

[pearl orbit]

chill/freeze is best defensive layer

[vagrant bay]

I thought the sanctum trial with 2 trials gave you the ascendancy points 5&6?

[exotic mantle]

Flameblast - AOE/Conc - Arcane Tempo - Controlled Destruction (main skill)
SRS/Arctic Armor - Clarity
Frost Wall - Fortress - Font of Mana - Glaciation (buys time)
Flammability - Magnified Hex - Inspiration - Persistence
Solar Orb - Ignition - Fire Exposure - Strip Away
Frost Nova - Unleash - Encumbrance (Emergency)
Blink - Ingenuity
This is my current setup

Idk if there's anything else I could run for utility

[dawn spire]

I thought so, too

[vagrant bay]

Just finished it and nothing, weird

[tidal copper]

It should

[desert juniper]

wow ok, relogging does work

wtf

[exotic mantle]

I also kinda want access to arcane surge and energy barrier but idk where to put them

[desert juniper]

thank you

[dawn spire]

Did you go through the door past the chests in the room after the first boss, or the portal? Like, did you complete both trials?

[sour basin]

the titans "hulking form" gives 50% to small nodes is that just attribute requirement ones or if i had a small node that gives 12% 2h damage it would be 18% per small node??

[vagrant bay]

Yeah completed both, i'm in the room with the chests after second boss now but can't interact with the ascendancy altar, the portal to exit is there though

[dawn spire]

It does not include attribute nodes, but otherwise yes

[sour basin]

oof

[gloomy void]

Yeah but since I have 0 mana because of blood magic, I can just take those without negative side effect? (And a unique like that would be nice, we'll just work without a mana flask like I've been doing)

[dawn spire]

Check your passive tree. You might have just gotten two points

[vagrant bay]

Checked that, still only got 4 😦

[exotic mantle]

If it's about 3rd ascendancy you need 3 trials

Or 7 ultimatums

[dawn spire]

Oh, so that's how it works

[vagrant bay]

Thank you

[dawn spire]

Oh, right, yeah, you can technically do all ascension on one type

[exotic mantle]

4th ascendancy is 4 trials or 10 ultimatums

Ultimatum still oneshots me occasionally when I'm 10 levels over the zone

[golden loom]

Is gemling still bugged where some of its nodes don't work and causing crashes?

[exotic mantle]

So funny

[dawn spire]

If you do a 4-trial from an unascended class, do you get all 8 points in one go?

[exotic mantle]

I would assume so but just a guess

[dawn spire]

Gotcha

[livid hamlet]

How good is fire caster for leveling ?

i kinda wanted to play ice but dropped a decent fire staff

[exotic mantle]

Really bad until you get fireball

Quite decent after fireball

Flameblast is insane

[livid hamlet]

What's the combo after fireball ?

[exotic mantle]

Fireball - Scattershot - anything really

[livid hamlet]

Maybe i will just get some fire skill for geonor then

But overall ice leveling sounds nice

[exotic mantle]

Either aoe or controlled destruction

[stray roost]

do we know if uniques are worth it? i found a couple that looks like they'd be good on a sorc but was wondering if it's something only good early/mid game or if its something that can actually be viable endgame

[livid hamlet]

idea is always to go for full phys

[exotic mantle]

Ice leveling is also much safer

[livid hamlet]

or maybe elemental bleed

with the bloodmage node

i hope they don't nerf comet, that's the skill i plan on proccing bleed on bosses tbh

just the whole cast on something interaction

but gas grenades got hit with a third damage nerf because of fire wall so we will see

supposedly physical witch is also decent, but i need to figure out how to build it well

[exotic mantle]

I was expecting my build to be terrible but surprisingly it's scaling really well

Getting a decent ES pool is much easier than expected

[livid hamlet]

Supposedly Blood Mage is poo poo untill you get second ascendancy Sadge

people are saying to even not ascend

[glossy oriole]

If critical strikes inherently has ALWAYS IGNITE. Then if that's the case which is better? Cast on Crit or Cast on Ignite?

[livid hamlet]

critical sstrike don't always ignite

that's a PoE1 thing

[trim nexus]

which for monk

[summer needle]

is chaos dmg strong?or is it not worth it?

[frigid ermine]

Will magnetic salvo be dead after nerfs ?

[proven rapids]

How fast do minion revive ?

[silent prawn]

base is 7 seconds.
resets if another minion dies

[sterile furnace]

what's better generally , armour breaking crit sunder or supercharged slam?

[rough quartz]

best venom drink option for poison type ranger?

[neat laurel]

what do tiers mean in unidentified items

[trim nexus]

is this worth the switch

[wild atlas]

yo guys, any good bloodmage build recomendation? this is my only reference so far https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zpWxF1Xv6I&t=20s

[polar hinge]

Most melee skills scale off weapon damage anyway so I'd say absolutely use the rare

[trim nexus]

what about this one is it worth

[prisma root]

is the pathfinder poison cloud + firewall nerf that bad? or is it still playable / does decent dmg?

[silent prawn]

it doesn'T do insane dmg anymore but still usable

[neat dew]

Still playable but pathfinder has better builds

[prisma root]

could you recommend me one of the better builds for pathfinder please? having difficulty progressing right now 😦

just ascended

[neat dew]

I'm using chaos poison pathfinder

[formal junco]

Guys, did cast on freeze also got nerfed or just cast on crit that jung was using it?

[neat dew]

Contagion spreads all chaos DoT's, including poison. With essence drain, vine arrow and poisonburst spam you stack 4 DoT's that are easy to upkeep and spread upon kill. You can add wither through support gem to increase chaos damage to target for bossing.

[silent prawn]

not yet. but Trigger spells will get nerfed

[wide folio]

what runes should i use on this item for lvl 42 ranger lightning arrow? physical, lightning, something else?

[formal junco]

His build already stopped working tho, something already got nerfed

[crystal fable]

which one would actually be better for CoF Comet Sorc?

[silent prawn]

not sure which. the only instant hotfix we got was Flamewall trigger for Raging spirits

[formal junco]

Ah, then that was it

Cuz he was using firewall cast on crit

For comet showers

[silent prawn]

that doesn't sound correct.

can you show a clip? or his build?

[prisma root]

thank you!

will try that

[formal junco]

Yeah, he made even a youtube video guide lmao

Game turned into poe 1

[normal zinc]

are they nerfing coc?

[gray bear]

Are there any good spark builds?

[silent prawn]

his last video?

[plush rain]

How much Accuracy should I be aiming for? Should I invest into Dex for it? As warrior and have been dumping str mostly

[ruby hazel]

ive been using this since 26, im currently 43. should i change?

[severe lynx]

Anyone know a decent supp gem lineup for plasma blast?

[tidal copper]

What? Screenshot please

[dawn saddle]

if I have "80% increased critical hit chance if you haven't deal a critical hit recently", and I use an attack with 3 projectiles, will the bonus count for all 3, or only for the first if the first crits ?

[tidal copper]

Recently is 4 seconds ago I believe and your attack checks for buffs whenever you attack I believe

[potent palm]

Any info on how long does this buff last?

[severe lynx]

Not in game right now, I'm just curious what support gems people are running for mercenaries "plasma blast" ability.

[dawn saddle]

recently is 4 seconds

[tidal copper]

Alt click recently

[potent palm]

That's not it

[dawn saddle]

?

[formal junco]

@silent prawn https://m.twitch.tv/jungroan/clip/TriangularHumbleApeTriHard-G9wt1wigVY-0RTl4

Not only srs got hit, but also comet, thats why ive been wondering about cast on freeze

[potent palm]

+30% for how long?

[crystal fable]

Anyone try out Flicker Strike yet?

[dawn saddle]

30% if you ignited an enemy in the past 4 seconds ?
that's what recently mean

[vestal storm]

iany good ?

[tidal copper]

Mage fist?

[livid hamlet]

quite good yes

[neat laurel]

how do you get atlas points btw

[tidal copper]

I think that a plus 2 wand with spell damage will the "reasonable" upgrade

[potent palm]

oh so it's worded weirdly and i'm stupid thanks 😂

[slender fern]

tbh they should just remove unidentified thing. whats the point of it anyway

[wide folio]

can lightning arrow chain? if so, why does the tooltip say that it cant

ive seen people put chain support on it wtf

is it some interaction with the lightning rod?

[slender fern]

I just built srs auto bomber built few hours ago and those mf removed it

[ruby hazel]

yes i tihnk so also level up my minions

[slender fern]

fkers dont want players to have fun at all

[open brook]

I started as merc witch hunter crossbow man and have come to the conclusion that acolyte, either of the ranger classes, and even blood mage would be vastly superior classes for a crossbow build and all have way WAY better early passives, merc starting area passives are probably the worst on the tree

[rocky pilot]

Does anyone know if elemental ailment threshold is even good?

[severe lynx]

I kinda see the point tbh, I never enjoyed poe1 bc the power creep felt like I was just managing numbers while the game played itself. Which is fine for some people but auto bombing seems to not be what the devs want.

[tidal copper]

If I'm reading right it's like a second HP bar that decides if you'll be frozen soon or not
So it sounds pretty good defensive layer if you can't deal with ailments

[rocky pilot]

does mercenary start south like duelist? i don't know where it starts

[balmy void]

Hey, just sharing my new build
https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/f91c23f4-39a2-4d41-8342-9af5b63b9e6a/builds/37ad65b9-603b-483f-9e16-6d31bb98c4a7

[open brook]

Yup and it's all just project damage, melee damage, and Armour evasion, no sustain what so ever within 20 points except for 1 really bad 0.75 regen node

[rocky pilot]

oh noone gets sustain or anything

[severe lynx]

Idk don't really need it.

Bottom points of tree have massive evasion and armor buffs

[rocky pilot]

its not that bad of a tree, its split between duelist melee and duelist proj, i'd say its limited for crossbow since you basically just move down as fast as you can to grenade tree and actual crossbow nodes

[open brook]

At least ranger start and monk start all have flask and on kill life and mana

[rocky pilot]

but if you're looking for "healing", "Sustain", "Leech", and "health regen" noone is getting any of those. the game lacks sustain

Life on kill is dogshit
flask for ranger is the closest to sustain yeah. but its because they're the potion throwing class

[tidal copper]

Pathfinder player would like to disagree

[rocky pilot]

they're pretty much just the exception not the norm

[open brook]

Idk 3% life on kill in poe1 is like extremely good sustain ranger at least has flask effect stuff

[tidal copper]

Can't other classes go for flasks? Like what else is there

I thought I saw some regen nodes if anything

[onyx steppe]

I was wondering what is better for witch infernalist or blood mage?

[slim shale]

Hello anyone happen to recognize what that 2nd support gem is?

[narrow summit]

Hello
Srs nerf is on ?
How i'm suppose to play this game if every 2 day they nerf my build after i use all my currency to make it?

[formal meadow]

It’s EA ffs

Jesus Christ some people I swear 😂

[rocky pilot]

life on kill in PoE 1 was okay, the difficult part was bosses not mobs so this was still bad
But in PoE 2 its especially bad

[rocky pilot]

looks close

[slim shale]

Oo that looks like it is, thank you

[wide folio]

does 'affected' refer to player or mobs?

ie is it 100% uptime for player with herald?

[onyx steppe]

I was wondering what is better for witch infernalist or blood mage? Anyone

[narrow summit]

And ?
EA mean i can put some time and get fuck cuz chris doesnt know that fire spell trigger will trigger fire spell ?

if its EA give us free respect when they fuck up ?*

[slender fern]

so they want us to build bad build always

[hasty nexus]

any warrs running shield or all just zug zug melee?

[rocky pilot]

btw i recommend using a gem that gives more duration instead of inspiration. it looks like you might be using someones setup here, increased duration does a lot for this skill

[slender fern]

ultimately they will nerf everything that seems good

[severe lynx]

... Not automatically killing everything around you doesn't make other builds bad.

[rocky pilot]

when builds become too god the entire playerbase only plays that build and content is trivialized
theres a good reason to nerf things that are TOO strong. but most of the builds nerfed are still good, just not mind numbingly strong.

Before release they said PoE 2 should not become a one-button build game so autobomb is like the opposite of what they want

[severe lynx]

Even the grenade spam gas bomb build is still hella viable

And it just got its damage almost halved

[tidal copper]

The "vision" they talk about is a bit more insane every time I heard about it...

[slender fern]

So far I played like 50 hours of witch and seems useless now , maybe i will just comeback after EA ends or something broken feels like worth building

cuz Im only into broken build I dont like dodge rolling thousands times

[little canyon]

guys I'm a fire sorceress and I need to choose an ascendancy. People suggested stormweaver since it makes "all damage" contribute to shock/frost chance so it'll work with me, is that right?

[formal junco]

We pick stormwaever for the free arcane surge buff

Free mana regen and cast speed

[little canyon]

yeah that node is cool too

how many ascendancy points total do you get?

[formal junco]

8

[little canyon]

that ain't a lot

[deep flume]

Is there a bug regarding Cast on Shock where you cant enable it? even though you have plenty of spirit?

[severe lynx]

What support gems do u have on it?

[deep flume]

None, it doesnt even let me put them on

[little canyon]

other than that, would you guys recommend this or the frost one for a fire sorceress?

shocked and ignited enemies sounds brutal

[severe lynx]

There's a t3 supp gem that says "all shocked enemies will remain on fire"

Sounds kinda baller

[little canyon]

: o

[rocky pilot]

Is it possible to reroll implicits?

[visual wasp]

Q:-do AOE effects of support gems also affect the command (skills) of the skillgem? for example "support gem improves AOE of skill" -does the gas arrow command" of "skel sniper skill " also get bigger gas aoe? or is it explicit to the skel sniper wich has no aoe? NEED HELP TY ❤️

[flat ferry]

do you guys think the Ice Wall is gonna get a nerf bcause its a boss killer ?

[formal junco]

Takes a lot to even get to 6 tho

Around lvl 70 only

Mine i got at 72

Its super hard

[rocky pilot]

i've never heard of it

[bold saffron]

why do i have x2 fussilade

[tired warren]

how are the charged staff shock monks applying chill/ignite as well?

[bold saffron]

i was doing zdps then moved gems from one to other and it worked

[wintry crane]

Is there any affix list for items?
Just found out you can have IR on both prefix and suffix.

[little canyon]

daaaamn

[bold saffron]

why do i have 2 identical skills to put gems in

[little canyon]

@formal junco can you show what you chose so far, in your ascendancy tree

[kindred barn]

Will this allow me to double stack the same debuff(Hypothermia)?

[gray gyro]

weird question, but what happens when bloodmage uses CI? she dies every cast?

[bold saffron]

why do i have 2 identical skills to put gems in

[formal junco]

Arcane surge, the node after that, then for last i got the node on the right , for +20% exposure dmg, at lvl 70 was a good dmg increase

[gray gyro]

if u use 2 1 handers then the meta skill could be the same

[neat dew]

EA means things are bound to change and be unstable. You know this beforehand. It's about testing the game design, making respec free doesn't give a good impression of how the game would play (is the cost for respec balanced for example)

[little canyon]

can you respec the ascendancy?

[neat dew]

Yes

[formal junco]

The points yes

[little canyon]

easily?

[formal junco]

Super expesinve tho

[little canyon]

ah

[formal junco]

Mine is like 15k gold each point

[little canyon]

shit

[formal junco]

But scales with lvl

Early on is super cheap

[little canyon]

and for the first trial I get how much? 2 points?

[formal junco]

Yea

[bold saffron]

im using staff

i have x2 ember fussilade

[formal junco]

I did 1 trial at 30 something, other at 40 something , the next was only at 70

[gray gyro]

then this is the point id like to ask for a pob link, but sike thats not yet a thing

[little canyon]

wait no first trial doesn't even give me anything?

just choosing the ascendancy

[formal junco]

2 points

Per trial

[little canyon]

oh yeah they're there in my skill tree

[gray gyro]

also you might have created an extra one from an uncut gem

Anyone knows the bloodmage CI interaction or theres no info? T:T

[woven bough]

any damage calculators?

[silent prawn]

skills are not limited

[shrewd helm]

does someone know if theyve nerfed ROA

[silent prawn]

riding roa?

[jagged basin]

Is there anywhere to get feedback from a GGG employee on an interaction? I want to see if Call of the Brotherhood is bugged. It states 100% lightning converted to cold but has only converted approximately 50%. Does anyone have any understanding on this or is it bugged?

[shrewd helm]

rain of arrows

[bold saffron]

i know ones from my weapon ones from a skill gem

but is there a difference in which i put gems in?

[shrewd helm]

did rain of arrows get nerfed yet?

bc if not im playing it

[little rock]

mercenary friends, what ammo type do you prefer beside galvanic and velocity?

[silent prawn]

depends what you put in your hotbar

[bold saffron]

it doesnt show a different button for hotbar choice

it doesnt show two fussilades

but it shows two fussilades on my skill gem bar lol

[shrewd helm]

any1 know if rain of arrows has been nerfed

[bold saffron]

also whats the base chance to shock

i made all my elements shock but its very infrequent

i may have to spec into fire/lighting

[crystal sleet]

How can i add extra support gem socket to hellhound skill i cant use lesser jeweller orb on it for 3rd slot?

[jagged basin]

shock is calculated from the damage of the hit along with your shock chance. if you dont have much shock chance and small hits you will barely shock.

[tired warren]

is this the same for chill and ignite?

[jagged basin]

also does anyone have any info on the call of the brotherhood interaction not converting 100% to cold.

[bold saffron]

so bigger number better odds to shock basically?

• shock chance

so if i wanna use shock with small hitting stuff i need to increase shock chance?

in general

[jagged basin]

yes but its not a chance, it builds up based on enemies ailment threshold

chill that is

[limber girder]

Does Avatar of Fire key passive still work with armor break? As in you do more physicle damage because of armor break and then it gets converted?
Or how does that interaction work?

[jagged basin]

ignite is based on size of hit pretty sure

for the dmg of ign just like poe1

plus chance

[jagged basin]

yes

[spiral girder]

Herald work only one in used ?

[jagged basin]

thats why ball lightning has a huge shock modifier

lots of little hits

does anyone here have any idea if ggg employees look here, or if there is anywhere to report a bug?

[mortal zodiac]

anyone know how CI ghostwrithe works

do u get the ES or not

[crystal sleet]

How can i add extra support gem socket to hellhound skill i cant use lesser jeweller orb on it for 3rd slot?

[bold saffron]

fuck, no wonder i never shock lol

im using fussilade as main dmg source

i might aswselll find lightning skill that procs shock then spam it

but then its too muchsetup with fire wall + curse + shock + fussi

so i may aswell stop playing fussi at this point and switch to big bonk

[gray gyro]

if CI works like poe1 version then ur hp is set to 1, so you gain 0.5 which gets rounded down so 0 extra es

[silent prawn]

increases by character level
3 at 45 or 50,

[crystal sleet]

ah ok thx for the answer! so just player level?

[sullen pendant]

Guys

Isent there a reload ability for merc?

Where is it?

[timid cipher]

lmao greathammer witch build anyone?

[silent prawn]

just allows you to build Minion dmg for yourself

[graceful basalt]

Does anyone know if sigil of power remains when weapon swapping?

[sacred sail]

hey, yeah I like it I took some points that had too much low value yet some points you took I don't think it looks good like 4 points to get some regen and life flask stuff. Anyway there are stuff I'm interested about endurance charge on stunning rare/unique to try out but I think it's bad. Recover 20% life on stunning rare and unique I think maybe it's slightly better, rage when I get hit and attack speed when I get hit 35% AS for 3 points. I think on bosses I'm good, clearing is the problem.

[dreamy stag]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/522m403c

Blood magic seems the exact solution to fix my Mana issue

But I feel like it's too far for it to be worth

[rich pine]

I was running into some issues with support gems.
Is it normal to only have 2 support gems that increase your damage in poe2? I am "forced" to link stuff like increased area of effect, just to have a support that affects my main gem in the first place.

[dreamy stag]

I can at least grab some crit and phys damage on the way, and the stat node can be dump in Strength for life

[dawn spire]

can I put two of the same spell in a cast on _ setup?

[neat laurel]

does anyone know what is bugged with chronomancer

[sacred sail]

is the new patch with drop out ?

[dawn spire]

I know they fixed a bug where ressing a chrono could maybe freeze the whole map indefinitely

[neat laurel]

hmm I had someone tell me a skill in its ascendancy doesnt function

[bold saffron]

ok is my char bugged? i cant see fussilades skill even tho my staff grants lvl 12 fussi

[neat laurel]

apex of moment it was

[bold saffron]

why cant i see fussilade here

[sacred sail]

it's only good for campaign sadly I think, too low base dmg for endgame

[dawn spire]

it's triggered. you cannot use it yourself

[bold saffron]

it also grants the skill itself?

[dawn spire]

read the staff

[silent prawn]

yeah already out

[bold saffron]

i read it but it says "grant skill: ember fussi"

[sacred sail]

🥹

[bold saffron]

is it just the trigger pat?

[dawn spire]

yes, but only so it can be triggered (the last line)

[dawn spire]

your skill page might shed more light

[bold saffron]

so i have one that TRIGGERS and one that CASTS?

[dawn spire]

you can, yes

[bold saffron]

i have a skill gem of fussi

[dawn spire]

press G and see if you have multiple

[bold saffron]

i did, thats why i was so confused

i put all my gems on the trigger one... now i get it

[dawn spire]

yeah, one of them is the one that triggers from the staff

[bold saffron]

this staff sucks ASS then wtf LOL

[dawn spire]

ah, I see

[halcyon ore]

You get so many that casting it is probably not a thing anymore with that staff

[bold saffron]

i was SO confused LOL

[dawn spire]

yeah, it basically puts the fusillade on hold indefinitely until you stop casting, right?

[bold saffron]

i just... kind of doubled my dps LOL

ty for clarification lmao

we about to juice

[dawn spire]

welllll

maybe (:

[bold saffron]

nah u get very little tbh

MAYBE i need to figure out a way to spam some skills to make use of it

but then im out of mana ina few seconds

[fathom lantern]

I don't understand resonance keystone

[dawn spire]

@bold saffronyou're going to be resetting it every cast. AND half of your stored embers are going to be the shitty unsupported ones

[opaque zodiac]

anyone been looking into ball lightning mechanics? Are they the same as in poe 1 in terms of things like multiple projectiles not shotgunning etc

[dawn spire]

if you would gain a power charge, you instead gain a frenzy charge (etc). It stops after one change

[unreal dew]

still looking for if anyone tried Chayula monk with chaos inoculation and occult curses and spells. pm me if you do

i wonder how well it works, what passives do you use and some tips.

im not really multi character guy, and when i find gameplay i like i stick to it even if it's not meta.

that is why i ask. i currently run quarterstaff with falling thunder, tempest fury and i forgot that support lightening skill with two occult skills: Contagion and essence drain. i love it so far. cheers, i need to get back to work now. pm me if you have tips for above

[dawn spire]

seems pretty much the same

[bold saffron]

i can just put 3 gems on the passive one too its fine

[fathom lantern]

what are some early frenzy charge generators? I'm playing monk

[bold saffron]

my main isue is that im not shocking jack shit with these

cuz they do little dmg

i need a consistent shock source

[wintry knoll]

is there any reason at all to try to take passives or items for more energy shield when so many things literally just ignore it?

[bold saffron]

i got shaper of storms to make everything proc shock

[dawn spire]

combat frenzy is the main one I can think of. It's a spirit gem

[bold saffron]

but my shock chance is like, trash

[dawn spire]

early on energy shield is pretty bad. You have no way to restore it on demand and early gear has basically no energy shield on it compared to later gear

[bold saffron]

there is a tree that gives a BUNCH of shock and lightinng dmg but then im not playing fire so idk builds wonky atm

i wanted to play fire with shock trigger but u cant do that reliably without lightining it seems

[distant glade]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/7f5b555a-e4b6-4ade-b622-1632bfb73546/builds/19e05f4d-b278-43a8-bb4f-6869fd8ffc26

[vague kelp]

What’s max level

[dawn spire]

you have shaper of storms, right? So all your damage should be able to shock

[wintry knoll]

but even when you can restore it you can just be damaged through it? seems like focusing on it at all over just straight armor would be useless

[dawn spire]

you don't need shock chance to shock. The nodes on the tree are all "increased chance to shock", not +% chance to shock

[bold saffron]

its not shocking often enough

yeah but i feel like i shock so infrequently idk

[distant glade]

Thoughts on this tree?

[bold saffron]

like, BARELY

[zealous swift]

hey. is scattershot good for gas grenade? I feel like putting it on explosive does more damage. as if gas grenade clouds merge into one for only a single explosion. have been experimenting a bit but explosive worked better so far

[sly jay]

"Converts 70% Phys DMG to Fire Damage" does that count as elemental damage? Because I have a unique that converts it into all of them, which makes these raging spirits into elemental spirits right?

[dawn spire]

only poison damage actually bypasses energy shield because only hits that deal damage to life can inflict bleeding

[bold saffron]

feels like i need drenched to be able to shock reliably maybe?

but then im not making use of 5% cold from lightning dmg cuz i use fire

aaaaahhhh xd

[dawn spire]

minions are not affected by your gear/stats unless it specifically mentions minions or allies or something. Or support gems linked to those minions

[dusty grail]

how tf am i gonna fix my infernalist build now after them doing that to rs

[distant glade]

Why are they even nerfing stuff so fast , let people experiment. It’s not a competitive esport

[dawn spire]

nerfing stuff encourages experimentation tho

[distant glade]

True I guess

[dawn spire]

if there are builds so insanely strong that everyone flocks to them, no one tries other stuff

[distant glade]

I will say the gas ignite thing definitely deserved a nerf

[dawn spire]

the point of this is to try everything and provide feedback so they can make the game better

[sacred sail]

they don't nerf what is strong or a bit overtune, they nerf stuff that is completely ridiculous right now

[dawn spire]

and yet somehow they haven't touched orb of storms and lightning rod. I'm so happy

[trim nexus]

what support gems do yall use on herald of thunder?

[faint olive]

Does "skill speed" and "cast speed" both affect spell casting?

[wintry knoll]

tbf there isn't much to try out

[thin basin]

Anyone playing pure lightning or pure cold monk

[distant glade]

Why is no one talking about tempest bell then? I’m literally 100-0 every boss they don’t get to move

[sacred sail]

yes

[idle hull]

Is anyone else doing like a full fire spell oriented infernalist witch?

[tropic river]

those regen nodes/flask nodes are some of the best healing nodes you're gonna find, so I took them since you had taken some other worse healing nodes (the worse regen and leech nodes), but they can absolutely be skipped, for clearing I'd just look for more damage yeah, also area of effect can be nice for mobbing, but sounds good, good luck

[sacred sail]

sounds fun, how is it

[dawn spire]

I'm pondering that rn lol. I'm using conduction and I'm thinking lightning infusion for the second support

[gray gyro]

exactly the thing im trying to theorycraft, bloodmage might be intresting as the infinite curse thing could be a buggy cool feature, but chayula with chaos nodes+CI and es has an okay tree with some extra lvls to spare, issue is idk if theres anything similar to vixens, which is like the step 0 for an impending doom build, so something like that + hexblast might be a whacky combo

[bold saffron]

doing it with sorc

[distant glade]

Fire is by far the worst element

[dawn spire]

sounds like someone hasn't even tried bow chronomancer

[trim nexus]

my other skills are using those so i cant use them n now idk

[dawn spire]

area supports then?

[faint olive]

thanks

[idle hull]

How come?

[dreamy stag]

What solution were currently found to deal with mana as a Witch currently ? Trying to struggle to cast my Bone Storm on Blood mage

[sacred sail]

bosses are easy for my build so only clearing is pain, I"m thinking I have to take stuff that make clearing easier and more fun now like attack speed so I don't die casting. For regen I found a way to not need regen again, 4% life on kill . for bosses flasks are enough. :p it's coming together !

[livid kernel]

guys what is "elemental ailment threshold"?

[distant glade]

Not any good skills really, and cold and lightning are just so much stronger rn

[idle hull]

Im rockin fireball with 2 extra projectiles

[sacred sail]

don't let him not make you enjoy fire spells, even if it's true it doesn't mean you can't make a good build out of it. Also it's been a few days it's not like the game is solved

[idle hull]

And blowing up mobs

Im full fire spell atm inferlaist

Makin my own build

[wintry knoll]

pretty much

[sacred sail]

braver than most it's cool

[tropic river]

sweet, theese 2 nodes can potentially help with clearing, but damage is ofc probably the main thing you want, but these are worth considering, rage normally starts depleting after 2 seconds so going from 2 to 3 is big

[sacred sail]

@tropic riverneed to rush the 35% attack speed wheel 😱

[novel hemlock]

Well this feels quite nice. Super tanky now

[formal meadow]

Any tips on sustaining demon form?

[sacred sail]

@tropic riverdamn, how to fix accuracy.

[tropic river]

do you mean this thorns wheel??? it's only 22% right? and only after getting hit? but you do get hit a lot while clearing automatically tbf

[tropic river]

yup it's either this node or the keystone

[sacred sail]

yes I can't do anything withhout getting hit.

26% as

I mathed wrong earlier

I doubled the double up

[tropic river]

but this wheel is only 22%... 12 + 5 + 5

22% is still insanely good though

[sacred sail]

I took hulking form

[tropic river]

ohhhhh I see

[sacred sail]

seem to be just the best

[tough valley]

so this node adds the strength requirements to my body armor as a stat?

[sacred sail]

@tropic river

[tropic river]

yes for sure hulking form is insane, but do clarify that in convos, not all mace builds are titan or even warrior

[tropic river]

yeah that could be really good

[sacred sail]

OMG I can take the support that spend rage for skill for clearing

I'll be a god

that die on any fire ball because of low resistance

[tropic river]

it's only like 35% more damage, which is a lot but there are a ton of other gems that give around 30% more damage to your slams in other ways

[sacred sail]

yes but with downside, here the downside is fine with more than 10 rage each time I get hit

[tropic river]

it's good but it's not ridicoulusly good

[sacred sail]

yeah probably

I'm quick to get excited about these things

xD

[ancient mesa]

hi guys, best 1/2 button builds? what do you guys recommend?

[wintry knoll]

have you tried playing the game?

[opaque zodiac]

do extra levels to cast on shock / cast on freeze do anything?

[tropic river]

the sorc that uses cast on freeze comet looks strong

[sacred sail]

I'm wondering how shield builld are with thorn and stuff, could be very fun

[sly jay]

What is better, shock or freeze?

[sacred sail]

shock is for damage, freeze is defensive. both are insane

[tropic river]

you can find like 3 more guides for extremely similar builds on youtube, they usually use 3-5 buttons but you can definitely do theese with just 2 or even only 1 buttonhttps://youtu.be/i9ApSVoEy7E?si=lqrdUcwbsdmKItJE

[wintry knoll]

that was the first build i played around with. you can get pretty tanky but its disapointing since thorns is useless against anything ranged

[sacred sail]

oh that sucks

[gaunt nimbus]

So I'm trying out Giant's Blood, and I only saw after I took it that they changed it at some point from Doubling Stat requirements to Tripling them.
I'm just finishing up act 2 and already need 195 strength to equip a 2-handed mace. (65 str normally)
I'm concerned about being able to keep up with the strength requirements on weapons unless I ignore all the interesting skill tree nodes and just pick up stat bumps.
How high do the base requirements on weapons get, and/or do I get enough other sources of strength that I can actually take interesting nodes if I'm going to use Giant's Blood?
I'm think I may need to drop Giant's blood for the foreseeable future.

[wintry knoll]

yep, got to the point where nothing else on the passive tree was really going to make the build any better.

[sly jay]

can an enemy be freezed and shocked at the same time?

[sacred sail]

yes

[tropic river]

you will need strength bonuses on every single piece of gear that can give strength bonuses later probably

but should 100% be doable

and getting some strength bump nodes on the tree isn't bad at all, strength gives max life which is nice

[sacred sail]

going to eat, I'll bother you for warrior stuff in a bit :p

[tropic river]

lol cya

[gaunt nimbus]

Hmmm, okay. Might just have to turn it off and on depending on what my gear is like as I level. That Triple stat requirement is rough.

[lethal pawn]

what is the best stats for a witch monk

[tropic river]

yes correct on both points

[tropic river]

what is a witch monk?

[lethal pawn]

i am a witch being a monk and i am also using piller of the chaged god

[dawn spire]

you cannot be two classes. And all classes can use all skills/gear. Do you mean you're a witch and you're using a quarterstaff and/or quarterstaff skills?

[tropic river]

well then you are a witch, but a "melee quarterstaff witch", that's your build

[lethal pawn]

yes

[tough valley]

it seems like hulking form is not updated in the passive tree tools on either poe2db or maxroll.. atleast it doesnt show in the total stats

[tropic river]

nope you have to math it urself, I actually don't know if it rounds down or is accurate, it definitely doesnt round up

[wintry knoll]

why do you need 3rd part tools lol

[tropic river]

it's just nice

[bold saffron]

does flammability and strip away skill gem work?

[tough valley]

idk what answer you are expecting here

[cedar river]

Do "Pierce" and "Chain" impact grenades in any meaningful way?

[bold saffron]

flammability reduces fire res and strip away says exposure applied is increased

do these work?

[dawn spire]

no, all exposure is -res, but not all -res is exposure

flammability is the latter

[tropic river]

anyways for a melee quarterstaff witch build I'll assume you're gonna go blood mage, in wich case you'll want to stack life and then the best stat is strength, but you'll still want some dexterity and int to be able to equip all your gear and gems, but all spare stats you'll want to have as strength

[wintry knoll]

idk what response you were expecting to "these 3rd party tools for a game that just releasd in EA a few days ago has incorrect information"

[tough valley]

im just looking for confirmation ^^

[tropic river]

probably something like this, it's a reasonable thing to discuss lol

[pale jewel]

Ok got a question, anyone knows if Cannibalism support works with minion? Like if I support Malice with Cannibalism, will the kills from minions activate cannibalism?

[slim pilot]

hey just curious does anyone know if the 50% increased effect of small nodes does anything for nodes that give 1 rage? like would it remember the 1.50 and give me 3 if i have 2 of those small nodes ?

[tough valley]

thanks for the response btw, cheers

[lethal pawn]

i am going infurnalist and what armor stats should i be looking for

[tropic river]

would you like to elaborate? going infernalist quarterstaff melee seems a bit anti-synergistic, it could genuinely be wanting to stack any of the 3 main stats, I don't understand the build

[dawn spire]

everyone wants life and resistances on gear during the campaign. Movement speed on boots is a big plus

[tropic river]

yeah what he said, strength is the safest thing to get because it makes you the tankiest in the most direct way which is good

but there could 100% be infernalist quarterstaff builds that want dexterity or intelligence instead, just depends on the build, and those builds would be pretty complicated probably

[dawn spire]

I don't see what's antisynergistic here tbh. There are at least 8 points you can spend in the infernalist without taking any dead nodes

[lethal pawn]

i plan to do a mix of fire chaos/posion and lightning i also plan to use piller of the caged god or untill i find something better which has 16% increased range and increase dex= aoe int=attack speed and str=weapon damage based off of my stats

[narrow grail]

I can't see shock chance or ignite chance anywhere. Does anyone know why I am not proccing alot of shocks with these gloves?

I even have +70% chance to shock from tree

[dawn spire]

what skill are you using?

[narrow grail]

tried frostbolt and sun orb

[lethal pawn]

and later on i might swith from a wand and warrior scepter to a crossbow/bow

[dawn spire]

you're only going to be shocking with 1/3rd of the skill's hit damage

[sacred sail]

@tropic river 😭 when I just find a way to fix my regen I find thisd

[dawn spire]

so it's gonna be rough

[tidal copper]

Shock works on DMG maybe?
Read shock tool tip

[tropic river]

wow that's good

[dawn spire]

what supports are you using on those?

[narrow grail]

Any other ideas how to inflict shock and ignite with cold skill? I am trying to make tri ailment invoker for elemental invocation

[lethal pawn]

when i get it the infurnal puppy will be providing most of the burning damage

[sacred sail]

I upgraded it to max, unlucky

[tidal copper]

Find the biggest elemental hit skill

[dawn spire]

the puppy doesn't benefit from those gloves

[topaz talon]

How can I use mana leech? Invoker has it in the tree, but all the leech nodes are %more and all the modifiers on gear is for physical attack. Monk has mainly elemental tho

[narrow grail]

sun orb was because of guaranteed ignite but couldnt proc shock or very rarely so overabundance and magnified effect. frostbolt glacialication scattershot and arcane tempo

[lethal pawn]

what gloves pillar of the caged god is a long quater staff

[dawn spire]

@lethal pawnI got you and illustral mixed up, lol, sorry, ignore that

[narrow grail]

ideally it would be frostbolt or eye of winter for proccing

[tropic river]

lol yeah those rolls are ass

[tidal copper]

Evasion is not that bad

[golden wing]

u prefer evasion and armor or evasioin and energy shield

[tropic river]

only really in builds that get evasion on all their armour and stack it, it's like, ok, in ither build, but you want armour or ES if you're not stacking evasion

[dawn spire]

You may need a skill dedicated to shocking. eye of winter with conduction might do the trick

[narrow grail]

I will give it a try when i find next t13 gem

[sacred sail]

that amulet started as a white item, crazy

[tidal copper]

You want armour and es cause you aren't a winner

[lethal pawn]

what armor type am i mainly looking for energy shield/evasion/armor or combination

[cedar river]

I'l reask my question:
Do "Pierce" and "Chain" impact grenades in any meaningful way?

[deep flume]

Whats better right now Invoker Monk or Acolyte monk?

[proper pagoda]

what are the meta skills for monk/invoker?

[tidal copper]

Can you not test this?

[tropic river]

armour if you don't know, evasion if you are doing a dodge build and ES if you're doing an ES build, but ES builds and dodge builds require a lot of synergy to make it good

[narrow grail]

hmm any ideas about this?

[cedar river]

Not sure what to look for tbh

[lethal pawn]

ok thanks

[mental briar]

This sounds pretty insane

[tidal copper]

See the basic ability and notice the chain and the pierce it shouldn't be too bad

[mental briar]

For the comet build

[native temple]

I'm sure it's already been said, but did anyone else notice the Cast on Minion Death Firewall is no longer spawning RS?

[mental briar]

Because you can spam spark

And build freeze up

Although idk does all shock chance contribute

So would you build shock chance nodes

[narrow grail]

I am playing tri ailment ele invocation comet its very close to working insanely well, for now its ok

[mental briar]

Or freeze buildup nodes

I still don’t exactly understand how shock and freeze chance are applied is it better to have many hits or more damage on the skill

[wicked sorrel]

for defense stats for a monk do i prioritize energy shield, armour or evasion?

[cedar river]

I think the reason to why I don't know what to look for is because neither makes sense on grenades

[tidal copper]

And it lets you link it? Lol

[cedar river]

Was just looking at a build guide for "grenadier" which had talents that gave chance for both, those talents also gave some extra dmg, but I was unsure if thats was all that was beneficial or not

[narrow grail]

hmm I tried eye of winter with conductivity and ignition. 0 procs for big pack of mobs 😦

[tidal copper]

Eye of winter is damage over time isn't it?

[narrow grail]

no its projectile that shoots projectiles

[tidal copper]

You need a big hit to proc do we have a big channeling spell or something??

[narrow grail]

I need cold spell that applies shock and ignite because I am getting stacks for ele invocation for every ailment i inflict

[sacred sail]

be careful of gems you adds, some remove ability to proc ailment

[rich pine]

Hey, soo.. Is it normal to put a bunch of utility stuff onto your main gem?
I looked through every single support gem, and I could only find 2 that actually boost my damage.
The rest ist just QOL, like inc AOE, inc Duration etc etc.

[tidal copper]

What skill

[stable grail]

any demon form enjoyers?

[spring jackal]

I'm thinking of doing ignite perfect strike build, do you recommend doing it in a seperate tree or just one tree with my clearing skill using avatar of fire?

[rich pine]

Corrupting Cry / Seismic Cry

[wicked isle]

They dont, you want stuff that adds aoe, amount of grenades

[tidal copper]

You are breaking their ear drums?! Cool!!!

[dawn spire]

There's a T3 support that give 50%more chance to inflict ailments but adds a cooldown. I'm on mobile now so I can't give too many specific suggestions.

What ascendancy are you?

[narrow grail]

Invoker

[rich pine]

https://tenor.com/view/barbarian-shout-shouting-carbot-gif-26857635

[narrow grail]

Ye maybe I have to go further in the game I am in cruel act 2 so no t3 sup gems for me yet

[native temple]

Any ideas on a good rebuild for a former popcorn RS infernalist? I was all in on minion health and player defensives (hardcore), but without the trigger and with only 5 RS spawning max now, it feels so bad.

[split rampart]

Question for witch players, are there shields with spirit in them?

[bold saffron]

r these MSQ or side quest? i forgot

doing act 3 cruel

[left ledge]

Interaction

I started a monk as was going to do something with cold and lightning maybe damage as extra and conversion. What is the order of operation for damage as extra and conversion in damage type.

Ex: if I was to wear both of these rings what would happen? Would it mater what slot they were in?

[tidal copper]

Side quest

[spring jackal]

if I have 100% physical damage converted to fire then got "gain 12% of physical damage as extra" do I deal 12% more damage???

[bold saffron]

im assuming accuracy rating is useless for mages?

if i spam aoe

[sacred sail]

yes useless for spells

[misty zinc]

in poe1 "as extra" is applied before conversion so your 12% most likely do not apply to your fire

[silent prawn]

side quest in act 2

[vestal flame]

Yes I have a unique shield with 50 spirit

[misty zinc]

anyone knows if the projectiles from bonestorm influence each others in terms of "recently" types of bonuses ?

[bold saffron]

wonder what would happen lmao

got some low lvl act 1-2 unique junk

[little rock]

where do u do this?

[silent prawn]

act 3 reforging

[sacred sail]

it just shows up one day, very weird

[little rock]

at the end of it?

[silent prawn]

near the end yes

[bold saffron]

wait idk why wouldnt it let me

arent they "similar items"

[hardy yoke]

Im almost finished with Act 3, i got stuck with my old build. Made an new one, that does even less dmg somehow, not im sitting stuck and cant resume with where i left, becuase im to weak. Any advice where i go form now? Do i just make a new char?

[little rock]

is there anyway to farm lesser jewels?

[reef viper]

they are vendor recipe

[livid hamlet]

Well you can do two things

[bold saffron]

what does that mean

[sacred sail]

seems quite meh 🤔

[livid hamlet]

One is start a new character and work from scratch.
Another is farm act 3 for gold and upgrades

and respec your existing character

[vestal verge]

does anyone know if mana recovery is multiplicative with mana regen?

[livid hamlet]

overall the latter is probably faster

if you want to keep playing your class

[barren yoke]

hey peeps, how does es feel atm?

[cedar river]

If you do the first one you could roll another class, and use the gold from that class progression to respec your old character

Now that they have increased drops that might make respec with gold more viable though

Not sure how much more gold you earn

[livid hamlet]

i think you will earn more gold

farming act 3

then starting from scratch

and you will get better bases with possibly good mods as well

so if you want to stick to your class , farming some good spot

would be best

[river berry]

so is there any viable build which isnt going get nerfed next day after reveal?

[livid hamlet]

well the strongest builds will be nerfed

but there are some decent ones

supposedly lightning crossbow merc is pretty good

i wasn't able to make it work but it seems trong

[late spruce]

anyone know about a warcry/fire warrior?

im going to try and get it to work lol

[empty ledge]

Is it efficient to spec into more than one element on my sorceress if I'm not going for the elementalist ascendancy?

Like if I want to go ice and lightning instead of just ice?

[livid hamlet]

well depends on how you play

[dawn spire]

It is, yes

[livid hamlet]

but there are supports that benefit form that

[dawn spire]

Hold alt for more info

[empty ledge]

I'm playing a crowd control for my friend that plays merc @livid hamlet

[livid hamlet]

In that case yeah, cold and lightning seem pretty strong

for both chill and shock

lightning merc is pretty strong

if you can reliably shock people

[dawn spire]

There are passive nodes and support gems that definitely reward dual/tri-ele builds

[empty ledge]

I think he's going raw physical

Okay cool, yeah I'm gonna go for those with chronomancer then

[livid hamlet]

Well, in that case it's still okayge

cause chill for defence and lighting for offence debuffs

[slender fern]

literally POE2 - "if you are feeling overpowered be ready to be nerfed "

[empty ledge]

Right now we've been doing his frag rounds with my ice

And it's just clearing everything super fast

[livid hamlet]

frag rounds is scattershot ?

the thing that blows freeze

yeah that's a strong combo

[empty ledge]

Yeah the shotgun that explodes freeze

[vestal verge]

thanks

[livid hamlet]

You can try going , not for lighting then

but for physical

with bonestorm

and supports that destroy armor

[dawn spire]

Oh, I'm on mobile. Didn't realize those didn't have hover text. My b

[livid hamlet]

to have him deal more damage

[empty ledge]

Hmm okay

What I need a want for that or can I use my staff still

Would

[livid hamlet]

you can use your staff.
wand is nice since you can use the specter for more minions

to use for offerings

but staff is fine

if it works with your phys spells

[empty ledge]

I'll have to look I didn't even think about using physical spells lol

[livid hamlet]

there are supports that

1. Destroy armor based on phys damage dealt

destroy armor based on poison damage

so you can use a mix of these

to strip armor away from problematic foes

and use frost for clear on everything else

[dawn spire]

Electrocute is also kinda bonkers OP imo.

[fair rose]

what's the best ranged minion for bosses?

[dawn spire]

Pure lightning with shock and electrocute kinda does freeze better than freeze builds. Well. Kinda. You can't scale electrocute duration, but I think you can scale freeze duration

[livid hamlet]

yeah but freeze explodes from shotgun attack

it's a strong clear combo

[dawn spire]

Oh, true

[empty ledge]

Yeah but I think we lose a bunch of DMG from his frag rounds combo

Yeah

[dawn spire]

Good thing you can freeze AND electrocute

[livid hamlet]

That's true, but i think for pure phys merc, cold +phys support mage

would be better

so that he can take care of armored enemies

[dawn spire]

Electrocute is a terrible name, btw. Just wanted to be a pedantic asshole and point out that electrocution is defined as death by electric shock

[livid hamlet]

I mean i don't know what to tell you, people shocked by electricity also don't take increaased blunt damage in the real world, so we just kinda have to yield to their idea here

[empty ledge]

I find it very interesting that your firewall can still set your ice orbs on fire lol

[dawn spire]

Yeah, armor shred is big. But what is the merc doing then? Just spamming one button? They can do some combos too

[livid hamlet]

i mean there are ballistas

Sniper rifle rounds

[dawn spire]

Right, but I'm just curious if the merc is also gonna be debuffing

[livid hamlet]

he can do some things but going full high velocity round for single target+ shotgun for clear

sounds easier than also having merc debuff

merc has complicated debuff options

Gas grenades are best , but they are kinda meh during clearing

[dawn spire]

Yeah, I guess if they can stay busy and efficient it's all good either way

[compact shuttle]

I build nuke merc rn

[empty ledge]

Yeah he's mostly only been using the basic shock, fragmentation rounds, and the armor piercing machine gun thing

[livid hamlet]

if you're sonic gotta go fast

[empty ledge]

Basic shot*

[livid hamlet]

still, if he is willing to swap

[empty ledge]

We're not that far yet on these characters though but it's going really well

[compact shuttle]

I want to test my clear on merc after I slot support gem duplicates

[dawn spire]

I'm pondering some sorta cooldown stacking grenadomancer. I haven't read all the grenade skills, but I kinda just wanna mash grenades and set off fireworks.

[livid hamlet]

galvanic + electric machine gun

and you going shock

will probably be stronger

[lethal pawn]

what is a good utility build for the unearth bone constructs

[dawn spire]

For your pillar of the caged god witch?

[empty ledge]

Question what do I even do with old skill gems? Like the level 3's and fours and stuff can I upgrade them at all?

[livid hamlet]

BTW anyone had any success with pulling of bleed build ?

[empty ledge]

Or do I just stash them for new characters lol

[dawn spire]

Nope

[dawn spire]

Yep

[livid hamlet]

leave them for your alt

[compact shuttle]

I wanted to do some thunder on my 2nd merc, do you think witchhunter would work?

[lethal pawn]

yea i have them currently to destract and apply stuff for me

[livid hamlet]

witchhunter is pretty good

iit's a well rounded ascendancy

[lethal pawn]

Or will be

[dawn spire]

The fact that you can't inflict bleeds against energy shield feels so weird. Idk how you'd make it feel good without having a whole separate setup just for es enemies

[knotty spruce]

So im playing cold chronomancer rn and im considering swapping to archmage chronomancer. Im jsut wondering what do you use on archmage thats for bosses single traget?

[compact shuttle]

I’m on gemling rn, I think it has potential

[livid hamlet]

Wait what ?

[tame sequoia]

question, I'm a bloodmage i have 60 spirit.. i use vitality & clarity on liferemnant, which is 30 spirit (20vit, 10 cla), now i have 30 spirit left for arctic armor, but when i toggle that on, my life remnants deactivates because i dont have enough spirit, even so its 30 each skill, i'm confused.

[livid hamlet]

That's so dumb

[knotty spruce]

or has anyoen figured out a difirent type of chronobuild? finding jack shit online lmao

[dawn spire]

Then I'd say arcane tempo for more fluid casting. Or unleash for more at once

[dawn spire]

I'm having a blast with lightning rod orb of storms chrono

It's basically just bow lightning but I also have temporal rift and slow stuff

[obsidian merlin]

anyone else caught in a position of apprehension in respeccing a build in endgame. Have an idea for a more endgame build, yet nervous to switch due to the refund passive costs and being not 100% sure my gear is ready to support the build xD

[dawn spire]

Temporal rift feels insanely strong and I loved it in Poe1. It's easily 5x better now. And it's free. And you can give it a cdr support gem

[lethal pawn]

Ok thanks what about the over slot

Would minion pact be any good or not

[knotty spruce]

oo nifty i love the idea of archmage and mana stacking so i really wana find somethign for chrono

[dawn spire]

I did that in act 5 and made my build massively worse. I refunded a total of 8 ascendancy nodes and basically threw away a dozen or so uncut gems to go back to my original build. I'm fine now. It wasn't the end of the world. I lost maybe 75-90k gold

[silent prawn]

you could try adding Vitality and Clarity to Arctic armor instead

[barren yoke]

just farm enough before hand to respec back if you need to

[knotty spruce]

you in maps? wondering ab your build and might be stealing it lmao

[tame sequoia]

yeah that worked, thats super weird though

[dawn spire]

I'm currently on the lookout for really good crossbows because a cooldown-stacking grenade spam build sounds so fun to me

[obsidian merlin]

yeah basically what I am doing. Pretty much adopted the "if it aint broke dont fix it" mentality for now.... even though its a bit more boring. Still clearing maps easy in my current build @ lvl 70

[fallen mirage]

soo, RSR build dead now?

[obsidian merlin]

planning to switch once I starts to struggle

[silent prawn]

problem is likely, Life remnant doesn't have a cost
adding a cost is what breaks it

[dawn spire]

You don't really need time snap, I'd wager. The 33% CD save + cdr on tree should be more than enough if you're using 3+ grenade types

[livid hamlet]

Mana cost say high btw

You will struggle with mana

[silent prawn]

nah still up and well

[livid hamlet]

on a pure greande builds

trust

[dawn spire]

Temporal rift solves mana, too

Get rekt

Temporal rift is so fucking good

[livid hamlet]

It's the go back in time spell ?

[dawn spire]

Yep

And with cdr you can get it to like 2s cd

Maybe 3ish

[rough kelp]

Do the extra dmg dealt as lightning bypass target lightning res?

[dawn spire]

No

[formal oxide]

Guy i had an idea ...
What happend if i get :

the radiant grief (ignite enemy in presence)
cast on ignite + any spell
elemental discharge + any spell (consume ignite on hit)

It will just perma proc CoI right ?

[dawn spire]

I will admit that if you use it wrong you're kinda fucked, but when you use it correctly it actually feels like cheating

[livid hamlet]

It might work then, but just be carefull, i was using only 1 grenade skill

and i had quite a bit of mana issues

with almost 0 CDR

[ancient mesa]

Gemling or whitchhunter for grenade build guys?

[livid hamlet]

Probably Gemling

Which hunter doesn't benefit grenades that much

[dawn spire]

Both can work, depends on what you're going for and what seems niftier

[manic drift]

I need HELP. my Cast on minion skill is not working with srs what should i do with this?

[livid hamlet]

But imo best part of Witch Hunter are the pops

and greandes have good clear already

[dawn spire]

What do you mean "cast on minion skill"? Cast on minion death?

[livid hamlet]

I think they already nerfed that right ?

Was it Alkaizer that made an autobomber ?

and they nerfed it mid his game

[ancient mesa]

what do you recommend, im noob hehe

[livid hamlet]

Normally i recommend Witch Hunter

but i would go gemling here

cause you already have good clear

and additional levels + supports

will be so so nice for grenadier

[formal oxide]

Does some know if Elemental Discharge can consume ignite from Radiant Grief ?

[still rock]

excited for it but i think itll be my uber which... is apparently bugged? i didn't see any mention of it in the notes

[manic drift]

the spell gems on this skill is not working.

[dawn spire]

I'm on mobile so I can't check, but can you hover over cast on minion death?

[knotty spruce]

Also considering going a frozen archmage build. Theres a ring that conversts all cold dmg into lightning

then with archmage

[viscid sand]

Are you getting energy when minions die?

Or are I assume your raging spirits expiring?

[solid zinc]

did you ever figure this out?

[wraith fox]

@still rock i now know what magnitude does 🤯

[still rock]

did i explain it ok

i felt like i didnt lol

[dapper sapphire]

Hello i've complete the campain as a minion build and feel like "minions revive faster" (there is like two nodes) is bug they do not revive faster always respawn at 6 seconds, its a tooltip bug or it does no work properly

[still rock]

i was also exhausted xD

[wraith fox]

the simple line in the in game tooltip made it make sense lmao

[still rock]

yeah the game explains it well for how complicated it seems

[livid hamlet]

That honestly kinda crapped on my build Sadge

[rocky pilot]

Does anyone know what controls what skills show up here? i wanna see the DPS increase for sunder

[wraith fox]

"a buff or debuff with a higher magnitude is more powerful"

just makes the buff or debuff be stronger

crazy

[livid hamlet]

Also, like Poedb2 shows dark pact as a gem, but i can't seem to find it

anywhere in the game

[rustic mango]

I've decided to build a poison focused pathfinder with crit dmg stats for snipe as I really like how good the skill is vs bosses. I'm not a fan of lightning skills and prefer strong poison DoT. Good or bad idea?

[wraith fox]

now explain this one @still rock

[livid hamlet]

is it just not implemented yet ?

[livid hamlet]

your hot hot things and zap zap things can make living things feel cold cold cold

[wraith fox]

[still rock]

#2┃build-planning message

[alpine cradle]

Hello,quick question,im following a community guide for witch,and got everything covered but one skill,and i cant seem to find it with either skill gem or spirit gem,can anyone tell me where do i get this skill from? ''summon Wolf''

[still rock]

is that still too confusing now that you understand magnitude?

[wraith fox]

i finally get it

crazy

[still rock]

sweet

[wraith fox]

i was there, but it was like 3 am

[still rock]

yeah we're all tired

i explained it poorly in retrospect

[silk smelt]

how do you get quality on this?

[still rock]

i think i kept saying "higher shock value" instead of just saying a more powerful shock which makes more sense

[wraith fox]

So let me make sure i fully understand. Doing more of X element dmg baseline increases the magnitude

[livid hamlet]

there are probably some global modifiers to gem quality

[wraith fox]

🤯

[alpine cradle]

where do i find this skill? it isnt on the skill list

[wraith fox]

then it isnt in the game

probably under primal

[livid hamlet]

I think it might be datamined

[narrow grail]

I wonder what is wrong with my character, i can't even shock with ball lightning + conductivity

[livid hamlet]

and ont in the game yet

[silk smelt]

shock is always 20% wym

[livid hamlet]

same with dark pact

but i have 0 idea where they will put dark pact

[alpine cradle]

i see,thanks

[silk smelt]

doing more damage increases your shock chance, not shock effect

[still rock]

So magnitude baseline is 20% of the corresponding damage type hit. So if you hit for 100 lightning damage, 20 of that damage (before increases and decreases to magnitude) is used to determine the effect of the shock

[silk smelt]

🚫

[wraith fox]

thats the debuff without magnitude

[wraith fox]

baseline is 20%, but magnitude would increase that as we just went over