2┃new-player-in-campaign-help

[haughty niche]

Poe2 has basically the same system, or roughly similar, just renamed to waypoints

The waypoint tab just isn't released yet in the store

[restive slate]

aha. ok

[half vigil]

what did the update add

[rare vault]

which one is better?

[tribal patio]

nerf to warrior

[robust rampart]

😮

[restive slate]

how do i know which one to pick? they look the same

[half vigil]

[acoustic imp]

Does anyone know if Malice's crit chance increase works with minion instability explosions?

[azure lava]

whatever has the coolest showcase video

[restive slate]

made by the same dude

looks like the same effort

idk

[tribal patio]

gas arrow is better fot lvl

[azure lava]

then whatever is the most up to date

and uses the ascendancy you want to play

[restive slate]

what does this mean? why does it matter when i applyy a gem?

[glacial palm]

It explains here.

[restive slate]

?

i dont understand why the intelligence would change

i dont understand what the "this" is that is required for gas arrow.

for example :/

[tribal patio]

more lvl the more str attribute u need to use it

[glacial palm]

"This" being the most recently referred to other subject of a sentence, "Flame Wall"

[half vigil]

druid when

[restive slate]

not necessarily. i thought "this" was referring to intelligence since pronouns usually apply to last stated noun...

[acoustic imp]

Would anyone know if the minion instability explosion is capable of critically hitting? o -o

[glacial palm]

I genuinely cannot bring myself to argue sentence structure in a game discord 😅

[glacial palm]

Honestly, fair question.

Intuition says yes but I don't see anything immediately that says it can.

[acoustic imp]

Yea, it's an interaction I was 'using' but not sure if it 'worked'?

I wish to know if it was actually possible or not

[glacial palm]

I guess the main thing I would point out is that I wouldn't know where they could get crit chance from for this.

So if the interaction does exist, I would expect it to not be something you could rely on.

[acoustic imp]

Malice increases the base crit chance as you continuously stack it

critical weakness is quite a strong aura/debuff

[glacial palm]

If so, should be pretty easy to test then.

Since the damage is a fixed amount, you can simply try with/without Malice or other crit modifiers.

[acoustic imp]

Er, but my malice staff has +3 minion levels

[glacial palm]

Would check the vendors then 😉

I'm offered 4 with malice right now lol

[acoustic imp]

isn't there also a gem with 'super critical' suport?

I could probably try messing with that too

[glacial palm]

There are some crit supports, yes.

[restive slate]

A pronoun typically refers to an antecedent—that is, an earlier noun, pronoun, phrase, or clause in the same or in a previous sentence. Pronouns with antecedents are called anaphoric pronouns. (Anaphora is the use of a word or phrase to refer to or replace one used earlier.) An antecedent may be explicit or implicit, but it should be clear. Miscues and ambiguity commonly arise from (1) a missing antecedent (as in The clown’s act with his dog made it a pleasure to watch, where it is intended to refer to the circus, which is not explicitly mentioned in the context); (2) multiple possible antecedents (as in Scott visited Eric after his discharge from the army, where it is unclear who was discharged—Eric or Scott); and (3) multiple pronouns and antecedents in the same sentence (e.g., When the bottle is empty or the baby stops drinking, it must be sterilized with hot water or it could become ill—where one hopes that the hot-water sterilization is for the bottle).

sentence was poorly phrased

[glacial palm]

Leave it as a comment for the guide writer.

[restive slate]

sourced from chicago manual of style chapter 5 part 31

[restive slate]

how?

ii dont think i can

[glacial palm]

I'm sure you'll find a way if there is enough concern for that sentence.

If not on that website, perhaps on the showcase video you mentioned. Or a business email for that creator.

Keep on it, I'm sure there's something you can do.

[restive slate]

can you get a bigger inventory some how?

[dusky burrow]

least pendantic poe player

[dusky burrow]

titan ascendancy

there's a notable for +20 slots

[restive slate]

isnt that locked to a specific class?

[dusky burrow]

yeah

you cant get it otherwise

[restive slate]

so theres no way in most cases :/

[dusky burrow]

correct

[restive slate]

:(

should i be jambling?

[ebon carbon]

For some reason I can’t find the trial of sehkima in cruel mode. I just did one of the tests of strength and it was way too easy and didn’t really give any rewards. I’m in the “search for traitors passage” quest rn in cruel and have killed the boss for it like three times. Anyone know what’s wrong

[glacial palm]

Completely normal, you can ignore the quest and continue on.

You can use the same trial map location for all of your sekhema runs, the quest is not able to be finished in cruel 😦

[sand tangle]

Where can you see your stun threshold?

[glacial palm]

PoB, I think 😅

[restive slate]

this advice doesnt tell me what support gems to get. or am i just blind? i dont see the martial tempo or the lightning infusion supports anywhere. i also dont see what support for the bow shot to get :/

[nova peak]

For purposes of Sekhemas, what does 'upon floor completion' mean exactly? The entire trial?

[steady magnet]

Hopefully I'm in the right thread but when do you start getting better weapons or do you have to keep upgrading them? I'm level 32 and still using a cross bow meant for level 5 but I've kept upgrading it with different modifiers to make it pretty good but everything I've been getting hasn't been much better. I just started ACT 3 so if I have to keep going its fine I'm just wondering

[glacial palm]

If you look to just pick up items that are outright better than what you had, yeah. Odds are good you'll be waiting for a bit.

[shy kindle]

theres 1-4 floors

[glacial palm]

You generally take good baseline upgrades, or take decent bases and pick them up to try upgrading a little.

[steady magnet]

Ok thanks I'm still new to the game but what's the item called that turns magic items into rare ones? or blue into gold however its worded i dont know

[restive slate]

anny suggestions what to use my first support gem on?" ranger.

[glacial palm]

A regal orb.

[nova peak]

So if it says I 'lose all sacred water on floor completion' it means after I kill the boss on this first floor

[glacial palm]

Generally those are alright to spend as a newer player, when you have a really good blue item.

Past that though, probably wouldn't spend exalts much (if at all) during the campaign.

[nova peak]

Which would mean I have none to convert to keys

[steady magnet]

Are regal orbs found or created?

[nova peak]

Both

[steady magnet]

ok thanks

[glacial palm]

Both

You can disenchant rare items to get regal shards, which combine into orbs.

[nova peak]

They can drop or you can combine shards from disenchanting rare items

[glacial palm]

You can also get shards or orbs themselves as drops.

[steady magnet]

Well i deffinitely shouldn't have been selling the rare items then lol damn

[glacial palm]

Honestly, some people do for a bit.

If they need the gold more than the extra regal shards.

Personally I preferred the shards, but I was definitely tossing vendors anything that was like 1.5k-3k depending on how far along the story I was.

[torn vale]

does every area reset and also randomize the layout or am i going crazy

[pine finch]

it resets after 8-14 minutes spent outside the area

[topaz chasm]

Anyone else blow through so many gems just to use like two skills that actually work?

I’m using crossbow and it feels like glacial bolt is the only thing scaling big damage and its mid at best

I’m entering act 3

[wary summit]

can i not see whats on my account on the poe2 site? whenever i go to look it only gives me poe1 options

[trim turret]

Well it's more about what skills youre using together and how youre scaling their damage.

[tribal patio]

sprete website u need poe2

[trim turret]

You don't use supports onnthe regular bow shot. Select one of the actual skills and check the recommendations, or uncheck the recommendations box and use the search bar. Martial tempo should be available immediately I'm pretty sure.

[topaz chasm]

I banged out 12k gold to respect passives I do less damage but I’m evading my ass off.

[tribal patio]

https://pathofexile2.com/early-access

[topaz chasm]

I’m only getting two support gem slots when do I get more?

[wary summit]

ye but when u go to ur accountit takes u back

to the poe1

[tribal patio]

u tring to trade

[wary summit]

No

Look at my rash

Stash*

[tribal patio]

i dont think it implemented yet only poe 1

[wary summit]

Ah

[craggy gyro]

is it normal for me to be at level 28 and not know wtf is going on

half my message didn’t send 😭

[glacial palm]

I mean... it can feel a bit like you're in the deep end I guess?

There's a lot here to learn 😅

[craggy gyro]

i’m scaling ok but at the same time i literally have no idea what’s happening

i thought there was only 3 acts 😭

[glacial palm]

Well, in the end there's going to be 6 acts anyway so that is something to get used to.

They just are not released yet, so the "cruel" acts are just stand-ins for those.

[craggy gyro]

when crafting, once you orb a grey item to magic with 1 mod and then orb it to 2 mods, can you ever re roll the item if it ends up being shit

or is it once you gamble it and it’s shit you just disenchant it

[dusky burrow]

this

you can reroll with annuls and chaos if there's high potential

but with most you just disenchant

[craggy gyro]

yeah but as a sub level 30 player

you just disenchant for more orbs

[dusky burrow]

yeah

[craggy gyro]

so if i buy a quarter staff and roll it and it’s dog water

[dusky burrow]

in the campaign it's just vendor

[craggy gyro]

just disenchant

[fiery flax]

i respecced out of flame to spark and i think i butchered my build 😭

[craggy gyro]

time to goldmaxxx

[fiery flax]

idk if its even my passives

or my gear

i just have no survivability and i never have mana

[meager silo]

Looking for a fun build to level. My main is Invoker and I love how satisfying it is to blow up the whole screen with HoI. any ranged builds that are fun/satisfying?

[trim turret]

Those resists are really bad.

[gilded bluff]

does it matter what i choose?

[trim turret]

Yes. Read them. Some of the negatives can make things a lot harder.

[grave crystal]

terrible resists and low energy shield

[fiery flax]

ive been advised by others to ignore es and go for life

[gilded bluff]

what happens when i run out of honor?

[fiery flax]

would you say thats not smart

[grave crystal]

you should have both

[gilded bluff]

and what does sacred water do

[craggy gyro]

let’s u buy stuff and you can spend 5 to fill some honor

[trim turret]

You need to start the run over. It's difficult because you unlock your subclass at the end of it.

[sand tangle]

I'm very confused as to how magnitude of shock works with cast on shock

[unkempt frost]

you lose

[unkempt frost]

it procks whn you inflict enemieslwith shock i think

or shock dmg

[sand tangle]

So stacking magnitude of shock does what exactly

[unkempt frost]

oh that idk

[sand tangle]

One guide said to put the support gem on spark that gives +75% magnitude of shock but less duration

I'm looking at how it performs and I can't see the difference

[safe lance]

shock is an ailment status

when an enemy is shocked you do 20% more damage to them

and if you increase magnitude that % goes higher

Most builds usually want to get an enemy to shocked status asap and then do damage to it

[sand tangle]

So if I put it on spark and get more shock magnitude, the lightning conduit on cast on shock will deal more damage?

[safe lance]

so you need shock chance, high lightning damage to get it to shocked status and then you can do whatever damage to it. Even ice, poison builds use this.

[safe lance]

yes since it casts on shock, it means the enemy is already shocked and the triggered skill will do more damage

[sand tangle]

would the "high lightning damage" just mean more dps?

For example, a spark that does 100k damage vs one that does 20k damage, would that mean the 100k shock would get me more shocks, and in turn, cast on shock more frequently?

[safe lance]

thats correct, I didnt want to go into the details of it but shock works in a way where certain hits that meet a certain threshold (based on the enemy's ailment threshold) contribute to shock threshold. check poe2wiki if you are interested in the details of how it works

here https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Shock

[sand tangle]

So, the way I understand it, is that a lot of different enemies have different shock thresholds (ailment thresholds?). So I need to break that threshold WITH DAMAGE to shock it BUT what does having an increased chance to shock exactly mean? Because I thought once you broke the threshold, that would already mean it had a 100% chance to proc a shock?

[safe lance]

yes

thats why you see builds have a really high chance to shock built, I think some supports make it super high that you end up with like 750% chance to shock

[sand tangle]

Sorry so what does having over 100% shock chance do exactly?

[fiery flax]

theres an item i NEED in a vendor but im like 11k short, how do i farm that gold up without leveling up first

[safe lance]

even 100% doesnt ensure enemy will be shocked if you read the wiki page, it is a 1:4 ratio based on enemy's threshold

[sand tangle]

You can't trade gold buy you can trade items. If you have a high level friend you can ask them for trash maps and sell that

[craggy gyro]

does the level of my wand affect anything at all

[safe lance]

it affects the level of the skill provided by it

[fiery flax]

i do not 😔

[craggy gyro]

or is it just the higher level skill it comes with

Kk

[safe lance]

and obviously also the tier of the modifiers that can possibly roll on it

[sand tangle]

I can give you some but I'm in trials right now will be done in about 10 mins

[craggy gyro]

oki

[safe lance]

you can check this site if you care about the tiers https://poe2db.tw/us/Wands

[craggy gyro]

I suddenly rolled through all of act 2 with my essence drain build

oki Ty

[fiery flax]

id appreciate it 🙏

struggling to fix up this build

[sand tangle]

OHHH that's what that mean. I understand. Sorry, so having 750% chance to shock would mean more like 750% increase to a 1/4 chance, which means it would always shock?

[sand tangle]

add me BUSSYBOOMBA

[fiery flax]

how do you add people

[gilded bluff]

what does mirror of fortune do

[hybrid star]

next key pickup on the ground is duplicated

[sand tangle]

anyway thanks a lot for the information. Means a lot. I can try and setup my build better now

[safe lance]

no worries, game is really all about that since the mechanics are pretty trivial. Currently its a manual process because GGG has not made APIs public like poe1 yet but importing your character to Path of building app, lets you see exactly where your damage comes from and understand it better (you can do it now but have to manually enter all gear and passive tree)

[fiery flax]

if i buy this is it possible to upgrade the lightning level

[dusky burrow]

not directly, no

[fiery flax]

gotcha

[dusky burrow]

you can remove it and get it back on at a higher tier by pure random chance

but directly upgrading tiers isn't really something we do in poe2

[fiery flax]

understood

[brazen jetty]

why does the gamble shop in act 3 cost more is it higher chance

[blissful helm]

is this for defense?

[dusky burrow]

yeah

[blissful helm]

thank you

[coarse ridge]

guys, im new to poe2 and the whole genre. What's the easiest build to go for to learn the basic mechanics?

[hybrid star]

everyone starts with spark

[glad light]

If you wanna learn basics and mechanics, I feel like you should try and go through campaign with your own build and Google everything and anything you don't know

[glacial palm]

Honestly, I would take a look at the character descriptions and see which sounds interesting to you.

Campaign is pretty forgiving in terms of just messing around with something that looks fun 🙂

[coarse ridge]

in diablo 4 i really liked sorcerer

with lightning build

[glacial palm]

Chain Lightning? Lightning Spear? Anything in particular?

[coarse ridge]

i liked lightning spear a lot

[glacial palm]

Then sorcerer would be a pretty comfortable start, takes a while to get anything similar to that though.

You'll be looking forward to arc for a similar build.

If the "magic" isn't specifically required, you might enjoy a ranger. Lightning arrow + lightning rod definitely gives you the lightning ranged feel quite early.

[coarse ridge]

its ok if its not 1:1 the same as the diablo build, just wanted something similar.

also, poe2 seems very confusing to me

the whole ui and the system

even if i look up at a guide, i still cant understand lol

[glacial palm]

Well, for sorcerer if you go lightning a lot of your early gameplay will be throwing clouds of sparks on the ground in the general direction of your enemies lol

[glacial palm]

I wouldn't worry about it too much.

poe is a game with a lot of depth naturally, but you don't need to get it all to play through the game.

Also have the disc to ask questions if needed

[shut abyss]

you kinda pick up a guide and try to understand why it's the way it is till you get it ^^

[coarse ridge]

ive seen online that many people play stormweaver

is this just a name for a build or its a hidden class i dont know about?

[glacial palm]

That's an ascendancy for the sorceress.

Like a specialization for later.

[coarse ridge]

oh i see. is it a good build to start my first playthrough? im afraid it'd be too confusing

[glacial palm]

I personally don't enjoy it, some people find it to be low damage while playing through the campaign.

But it's fine. Quite a simple build at a basic level.

[shut abyss]

simple is good and if you go spark it means your build is elemental damage scaling mostly which means you can do other things too

[coarse ridge]

seems good enough, but i just saw a lightning arrow build which seems interesting

[shut abyss]

simple is good and if you go lightning arrow it means your build is attack damage scaling mostly which means you can do other things too

[glacial palm]

The lightning arrow stuff is also a good starter build. Good skill interactions, good damage, fairly straightforward gearing and gameplay.

[night ferry]

Can someone teach me how to navigate the trade options? I'm so confused. I want to filter for an amulet that has + spirit, but where's the option for the + spirit part?

[night ferry]

Wait, i think im on the wrong page? I only see the POE1 PC options, don't see POE 2. That's why I couldn't find it

[shut abyss]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2

[night ferry]

THANK YOU

yeah i was on the wrong freaking page sigh...

[heady dust]

Can someone help me get to doryani's black chambers please?

Will do boss alone

[shut abyss]

sure invite mopparii

[chilly harbor]

is there somewhere showing the scaling of trial of sekhemas and ultimatum by level?

[onyx bone]

if i have three dragons equipped, and my crossbow deals cold damage, does it still have a chance to freeze or will it only ignite now?

[shut abyss]

what do you mean? it's the level it says it is?

[coarse ridge]

im playing deadeye build, should i just sell everything that is not in my class?

[shut abyss]

usually yes, disenchant,salvage,sell,trade. i guess it depends on how much you want to do inventory management

[coarse ridge]

what are the differences between yellow/blue items? yellow is just higher quality?

[shut abyss]

white common
blue magic
yellow rare
brownish? unique(doesn't mean legendary, doesn't mean it's better than rare, it's just unique)

[coarse ridge]

legendary is orange?

[shut abyss]

there is no legendary

usually blues get 2 mods and rares 6 so thats a huge difference

[coarse ridge]

so i should be looking for rares and uniques depending on the build?

[chilly harbor]

i mean how much damage and hp from monsters increase

for each level

[shut abyss]

rares is the best, uniques have unique properties on them that you should only use for their unique properties

[shut abyss]

thats abit difficult, i guess closes you get is going here:
https://poe2db.tw/Trial_of_the_Sekhemas#Floors
and choosing the boss you'd like to see and there you can change it's level

[coarse ridge]

should i be saving these or use em as soon as i get them?

[shut abyss]

during campaign
alts and augs you pretty much can waste as you wish, if you get something decent might aswell use regals too, you probly won't have enough exalts during your first campaign to use any, you should save 5-10 of those for after campaign
quality on armour is probly not worth it
quality on weapon is probly worth it
sockets are plentiful, use them.

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1328202289755983932

[dim maple]

how are u guys getting used to the mouse and keyboard combo! dying too often because i am floundering between keys

either my pointer direction is wrong, or i dodge at the wrong time, or i am hitting the wrong key ! sheesh! too many things to keep track of. any tips?

[shut abyss]

git gud or you could play without wasd or even use a controller

[dim maple]

yeah the controller is my last resort. havent used one before so no idea.

would all the skill buttons be in the controller itself?

[shut abyss]

yep

[dim maple]

or would u use cotriller and keyboard or sth?

[shut abyss]

it's one or the other atm, i don't think they added support yet so that you can smootly go between the two

[dim maple]

and then when we want to open inventory, skill page etc? i dont have a ctrlr, so weighing up if i should buy one

[night ferry]

Reborn, I just unlocked my 3 passive combo at level 38. It feels freaking amazing

[shut abyss]

i use controller for games i feel like should be played on a controller so can't really say but if you don't have a controller already it won't be any easier than wasd

[dim maple]

oh nice!! congratz.

[dim maple]

oh then, forget it! i'll just play it like i did poe1

[dim maple]

this is monk, yeah? i was seeing a guide and it said the skills are tied to the weapon,. what weapn are u using?

[wary summit]

Is spark gemling the sorceress class?

[shut abyss]

gemling is mercenary

[night ferry]

Staff, Going for charged staff combo

[pseudo gull]

Hi! I am a d4 player... I saw the poe2 play trailer and would really like to try. Is there a release date yet? Also, I like you have to micro your character. Is there some guide to this?

[shut abyss]

they told us release date is 6-12months so i guess we're at 4-10 months now
what do you mean by micro?

[pseudo gull]

In d4, the best strategy is to be so overpowered you one shot everything in 1s.

I saw the game play, you have to dodge and do things...

I like that.

[shut abyss]

at the moment it's the same, i guess you need to dodge little bit more than in diablo but still

[alpine fulcrum]

You’ll be able to do that with some overpowered builds

[coarse ridge]

why cant i find herald of ice and shock in skills?

[pseudo gull]

Yeah. But in D4 you lower the difficulty until that... so that is fastest way.

[shut abyss]

click the show all button

[pseudo gull]

Anycase, it is in early access right?

[alpine fulcrum]

Yes

[shut abyss]

i expect and hope there will be some major changes incoming soon ish

[coarse ridge]

all gems?

[shut abyss]

yep, should be there

[coarse ridge]

nope. doesnt exist idk why

[alpine fulcrum]

You need uncut spirit gem not skill gem

[coarse ridge]

ohh thats why

[alpine fulcrum]

It’s way easier if you play with friends. But it’s perfectly doable if you’re a solo player.

I was playing sorc and have an alt char (monk) both are op with proper builds.

I one shot the pinical boss lmao

Now (after patch 0.1.1) it’s harder because of how resistances work on bosses though

[pseudo gull]

So, how much can we access if I may ask? I try to search but get different opinions.

[alpine fulcrum]

But I think the overall game is easier too

[pseudo gull]

Also, isn't it free to play?

[alpine fulcrum]

It is

Or it will be

În EA you have to pay 10 bucks or so

[shut abyss]

half of campaign, classes and 6? endgame bosses

[alpine fulcrum]

But you get 1:1 in game currency

[pseudo gull]

In steam it is 20 bucks.

[alpine fulcrum]

Which is valuable cuz you want to get some stash tabs anyways

[pseudo gull]

Sorry 29.99 dollar.

[pseudo gull]

Hmmmm, what is game currency for?

[alpine fulcrum]

I can’t remember the prices

[alpine fulcrum]

Mainly to buy skins or stash tabs

You can do without them but it makes your life way easier

[pseudo gull]

Yeah. 29.99$ is a little bit expensive for early access alone...

[pseudo gull]

Thanks.

[alpine fulcrum]

It’s to show them support. If you don’t want to pay just wait for the release

It will be free then

[pseudo gull]

OK. I will wait then. You also mentioned EA right

[alpine fulcrum]

EA = early access

[pseudo gull]

OKOK...

🤪 I am stupid these days.

[shut abyss]

aren't we all

[alpine fulcrum]

Honesty for me at least it was with to pay. I mean I had so much fun with this game

I have 525 hours into this game already lol

[quartz crow]

does golden charm actually give you the rarity before the boss dies so the rarity applies to them

[shut abyss]

i'm at 18 cents an hour so pretty good deal

[quartz crow]

I understand what i have to do to juice this charm now if it works the way I think

[shut abyss]

afaik is broken atm

[quartz crow]

pull big packs and then kill everything

o

how is it broken

[alpine fulcrum]

Yes

[alpine fulcrum]

Is it?

[shut abyss]

i don't know if this is true or not but it's supposed to work on the rare you kill but it might not be working properly

[quartz crow]

can you only get quality from vaal orbs on charm

[hard cypress]

Jewelers orbs of different tiers

Oh wait you meant quality

Gencutter prism do increase quality I think ?

[quartz crow]

doesn't seem like it

quality doesn't seem to matter for charms anyway unless theres slams that do silly things

[steel junco]

how do i create my own hideout?

[shut abyss]

iirc your first hideout needs to be found on the atlas map

[quartz crow]

does the game keep track of what you reforge to determine ilvl

so I would want to stray away from lower ilvl

[steel junco]

tqtq

[shut abyss]

te quiero? love you too

[steel junco]

😆 thank you

[coarse ridge]

how can i add more gems?

[shut abyss]

jeweler's orb, random drop

[young pollen]

can some1 tell me what ES is good against? lets say there's a map mod that says that monsters get some % of their max life as ES. what types of damage are affected/suffer the most?

[coarse ridge]

thank u

[bleak sand]

What rune should should I put on quarterstaff? Fire/cold/physical damage? It already has a lot of lightning damage

[shut abyss]

chaos damage deals more damage to ES, other than that it's just extra health

[shut abyss]

early level's flat runes probly cold>lightning>fire but soon iron runes will start scaling better

[young pollen]

so this for instance doesn't convert aka steal max life, just adds more on top of it as ES, right?

[plucky vapor]

Is there a way to fully refund your passive tree?

[shut abyss]

"gain" "extra" so yes

[young pollen]

nope, only 1 by 1

[young pollen]

got it, thanks!

[plucky vapor]

oh my goodness...

[young pollen]

oh yeah lol, that's pain

[plucky vapor]

ty i guess 😛

[bleak sand]

I’m using double herald tempest flurry invoker build. physical is better than cold you think?

[shut abyss]

depends on how you scale it but it still gets added to the damage and if you're doing herald tech then you def need all the extra cold you can get but i think you're high enough level that iron runes scale better anyway

[craggy gyro]

ok jamanra is fucking my little monkussy. how do i get better armor

i have the dps im just getting one shot

[shut abyss]

wtf

[craggy gyro]

i killed jamanra

what a cool boss fight

[glad grove]

Congrats! But just as a heads up, these help channels we try to keep gameplay question related only. If you want to post your W's, L's, rant etc. then #2┃general is the correct channel.

[craggy gyro]

is there a way to get boss specific items? like if i want to use jamanras weapon or magic is that possible?

[ancient marsh]

Yea i thought about that. I was just so excited. I can move the post!

[craggy gyro]

like dark souls where you take the boss soul and get a boss specific item

[golden lynx]

anyone know when will the stash tab discount will come?

[shut abyss]

current estimate is 10days

[glad grove]

You're good. Just for future stuff.

[golden lynx]

10 days from now?

[glad grove]

There are some unique items themed around specific bosses/ ingame characters, but they are global drops, not farmable from a specific boss etc.

[craggy gyro]

that’s sick. ty for the info

[glad grove]

In the endgame there are some pinnacle bosses with specific loot tables with unique items only they can drop.

[safe lance]

there are also poe1 remnants, like doedre's tenure that has flavor text about maligaro but doenst explain who that is

[chrome solar]

can someone help me with act 2 boss

[ancient walrus]

my rondel amulet gives "+% increased damage" does that mean it gives +% spell dmg and +% cold damage? it has no dotted line on the damage line that i can hover over

[tribal patrol]

Whats a good spell to enhance sparkdmg

[bitter shoal]

It increases the damage to any skill. It wouldn't double up for a single skill, though.

[ancient walrus]

I'm about to hit end game, should I trade 48% increased dmg for 30% spell damage + 42% item find? I heard item find is really important end game

[ancient walrus]

ty

[bitter shoal]

You probably don't want to drop it right away - the extra rarity is important, yes, but not as important as being able to clear out maps.

[ancient walrus]

ok, tyvm

[shut abyss]

it's a luxury stat so if you can afford to have it then it's nice to have

[craggy gyro]

when do you get more spirit, or do you only get 30 for the entire game?

[shut abyss]

100 campaign rest comes from gear or ascendancies

and uhh, bog witch gives spirit twice and...that trial thing you did act 1 only gives in normal

[tired forge]

Is it just me or would this be quite powerful in hands of a witch?

[elder ember]

not really, its probably meant for warriors

[rough dew]

Either way, there is much better options for rings for any class

[hazy berry]

need help with this helmet, I can't socket a 2nd support skill gem into a different skill. It says another skill is using the skill gem, but this helmet should let me add another of the same support skill to another skill gem right?

[elder ember]

do you already have 2 of them equipped?

[hazy berry]

nope, for example impetus, I only have one of them on a skill, trying to put it on a second but it wont' let me

[elder ember]

try loading into a new instance with the helmet on and try again

[hazy berry]

same problem :/

[shut abyss]

and you do fulfill increased attribute requirements and you're not capping out on gem capacity?

[hazy berry]

yup I should be, gem requires 178 int, with the 21% increase in attribute requirement it needs 215int. I have 219 int. and my skill gem has 5 slots, so I shouldn't be capping on them

[shut abyss]

this one

[hazy berry]

nope not capped

[devout hare]

do you hav helmet equipped

[azure lava]

What supports are you trying to use? And on which skills?

[hybrid star]

take the 21% increased into account

[azure lava]

I don't see how the 21% inc requirements would mess with supports and not the main skill

But it could be

[hybrid star]

can try to take some nodes out and get attr, but yeah that's just my guess

[pseudo gull]

I have a stupid question. Path of exile 2 cannot be found in my steam.... Anyone has the same issue?

Or am I being myself (stupid) again?

[azure lava]

Did you buy it through steam?

It's also available through epic and the standalone client

[pseudo gull]

I access it via stadnalone client.

I search on the steam shop, it is not there...

[azure lava]

Oh it's not in the store at all?

Or it's not in your library?

Because if you bought through the client/poe website then it won't be in your steam library

[pseudo gull]

It is not in the store in my steam client.

I try to buy from the steam client.

[azure lava]

Maybe it's not available to purchase in your country? I can see it in my steam store for $30 US

[pseudo gull]

I am using an VPN so I am officially using an account in the USA...

[azure lava]

If anything could be called unofficial, then it would be that

[still latch]

can anyone help a brotha through campaign, i'm at ogham village in c1

[azure lava]

Yeah, check out #1328202289755983932 to help get upgrades

[azure lava]

If it's not in your steam shop, it's not in your steam shop. I'd ask steam support

[sage hemlock]

when new class come?

[azure lava]

Soon™

We know that huntress is the next one and that it's "relatively soon"

[pseudo gull]

Already asked. Downloading the main game now.

I really regret didn't find this game earlier...

[azure lava]

I mean, it's only been out for like two months

[pseudo gull]

Well, I am from China. We have 15 days of holiday.

Tomorrow is the last day.

😭

[azure lava]

Ah, I see. Rip

[pseudo gull]

At least you need to dodge in this game... D4 you can play blind in some way...

😭

[azure lava]

Yeah, either dodge or 1-shot everything

[pseudo gull]

D4 is designed to one-shot everything. If you don't, lower the difficulty until you do.

😭

And it is going to be more like this in the future.

Also, I have a friend who will play POE2 with me.

[azure lava]

It's okay, you're not playing d4 anymore. You're safe.

[pseudo gull]

Well, the most disappointing thing is that I have been trying to find good two class build. I have a friend who will play together... D4 is not designed that way. There is no coordination between classes

[azure lava]

Poe2 isn't a whole lot better, imo. You can try to make builds with synergy, but you won't find anything close to a party comp with tank/healer/dps like in WoW

[pseudo gull]

Well, here is the idea from D4.

[radiant hatch]

it seems not end game anyways comp dont matter cuz everyone wants to 1shot everything lol

[pseudo gull]

Play exactly the same build. Because meta builds are so much more powerful.

I heard it is not the same case in POE

[shut abyss]

rarity aura block support bot

[azure lava]

Yeah, in poe1 meta party comps were usually something like:
-Damage dealer (carry)
-Character to buff the carry's damage
-Character to nerf enemy defense/damage
-Character to massively buff the party's survival
-Character with insane rarity/quantity bonuses to cull enemies for massive lootsplosions

Or something like that. It changes patch to patch.

[pseudo gull]

I mean this is already so much better compared to play the exact same builds...

💀

[shut abyss]

i'm sure d4 has zDPS supports 😮

[azure lava]

Well, in poe1 one person is playing a build and the other 4-5 people follow them around

[pseudo gull]

Well, in season 7, there is bloodwave build.

If you play this meta, you clear everything in 70 hours or so.

For other classes, they haven't yet clear it.

🤪

[azure lava]

Luckily this isn't d4 so we can stop talking about it

[pseudo gull]

Like $inifty$ and 70 hours.

Yep. Sorry.

😭

[azure lava]

It's all good as a comparison point

[radiant hatch]

new to poe2 but i need something more in endgame apart from running maps, want some coop stuff sadly

[pseudo gull]

Anyway, I am going to watch lore videos.

[azure lava]

It's poe, so I doubt you'll get any content designed for coop

[pseudo gull]

Just a question. Do I need to read the tutorials on YTB? Or does the game explain the mechanics pretty well?

[lament stone]

the ingame explanations are pretty good, except for explaining how you access them

if you hold alt on an item you can click any underlined text to read about what it means

[pseudo gull]

Thanks. It will probably download for the whole night. I am then going to skip the tutorials on ytb and watch the lore.

[obsidian forge]

the game is very complex, so if you go in without watching or reading guides it's a big gamble

you might get stuck in the campaign forever until you read a guide xD

you have to at least optimize your build even in the campaign, and in some some builds are really weak compared to others

[pseudo gull]

I will read the guide after I install the game, as well as the build.

[echo hound]

Really? The campaign seemed very accessible even when I was cluelessly running grenade merc

[pseudo gull]

For now, it is very hard to understand without even knowing what they are talking about...

[verbal breach]

Anyone want to help me run act 3

[pseudo gull]

😭

[lament stone]

#2┃looking-for-group

[pseudo gull]

Also, that sounds amazing.

[obsidian forge]

not really, I wish they made the campaign more accessable

[pseudo gull]

By the way, is there a build website now?

[obsidian forge]

I was choosing the wrong builds and when I was choosing the right build it was getting nerfed to the ground xD

campaign took me 80 hours

but a buddy of mine chose the right build and finished the campaign in maybe 40 hours

[obsidian forge]

mobalytics and maxroll pretty much

or just search on youtube

long story short, physical weapons are just better early on then wands and such

[lament stone]

that completely depends on your build

[obsidian forge]

I think bows > quarterstaves > maces > wands

not sure about crossbows

[lament stone]

like obviously a wand isnt going to be useful if youre not solely using spells

[pseudo gull]

Hmmm, I want to try sorc first.

87G downloading...

[obsidian forge]

I recommend leveling sorc with a bow...

[lament stone]

there isnt really a tier list because every one of those weapons can be really strong

[pseudo gull]

[obsidian forge]

I mean in the campaign

[ember jasper]

content creators are either paid by icey veins, mobalytics or maxroll to post their guides there, once we have access to API for characters outside the game poe2.ninja is going to be a thing

[lament stone]

lightning rod + orb of storms is the strongest levelling setup, but you dont have to use that if you want to try other stuff

just dont forget it either if you do get stuck

[pseudo gull]

Well, I am just trying to explore.

[obsidian forge]

if you still wanna go with spells, I recommend flame wall with spark and frost bomb

well, frost bomb maybe in the first act only

[lament stone]

orb if storms is the important part of levelling with spark

[obsidian forge]

sure, and orb of storms

[pseudo gull]

😵‍💫

[obsidian forge]

I personally went with fireball this is why it was so hard for me

[echo hound]

Recommending the fastest options to rush the campaign on a first time playthrough sounds depressing xdd
You only get to enjoy zdps + dodge roll + learn boss mechanics once.

[shut abyss]

i did fireball too and it was so easy and fun

[obsidian forge]

really? I guess you optimized your build much better than me

I remember I spent 8 hours on the act 2 Jamanra with fireball

was upgrading my gear, coming back to try and kill him

ended up being a 15 minute fight lol

[ember jasper]

just play minions if you want zdps clear speed

[obsidian forge]

do not play minions

[lament stone]

i used frostbolt/ice nova/cold snap on my first time, not super strong, but freezing enemies let me get away with a lot less defences than i probably shouldve had

[obsidian forge]

I have tried that as well in the campaigg, with good leveling uniques

[lament stone]

just read all your skills to think of what interactions could be possible

the example, orb of storms + lightning rod is strong because of this line on orb of storms

so every time you use lightning rod while standing near orb of storms, the orb chains a lightning bold to nearby enemies

[echo hound]

Sounds boring to only use the 1 build.

[pseudo gull]

😵‍💫

[obsidian forge]

I think arc should be fine in the campaign as well

or frost bolt + cold snap

[polar hound]

How to import build into pob2?

[bleak spade]

Whats the best looking current available skins to purchase in poe2 for you guys?

[weak jasper]

if you mean using the API to do so, you can't yet

if you just mean importing another build someone made, go to import/export

[polar hound]

So manually?

[weak jasper]

yes, you have to input all your items manually

ctrl-c ingame, ctrl-v in items tab

[polar hound]

Can we copy items from trade site?

[wary summit]

wats howa

[obsidian forge]

best gloves in the game

[mystic forge]

hands of wisdom something

[dark heart]

Hi

Does the brimstone weapon effect can be use in poe 2?\

[fluid seal]

hey guys, very stupid question, bu here we go. What can I do if I cant beat the Act II Endboss? Yes I could grind levels, but thats boring. Atm I have the best DPS Crowssbow as a Witchhunter possible and following Railgun Witchhunter Build from Mobalytics to a T

One Idea of mine was to upgrade my armor, but its seems it very rarely gives you offensive stats and my problem I got low DPS and not that I cant take hits

I make it to about 20% HP and in the end I dont have the sustain, becuase I think my DPS is way 2 low

[glacial palm]

Honest answer? More practice.

[fluid seal]

is an Act boss figh supposed to last 15 min +?

[glacial palm]

Act 2 endboss is almost entirely avoidable damage, with the closest to unavoidable being the minions that appear during the intermission.

[fluid seal]

ist there any way to see what dps I should have a what lvl?

[glacial palm]

Not really. There's not really a metric like that.

[fluid seal]

caus I feel I only tickle the dude

ill stay at it thnx. I think my best was @ 15%

[thorn flower]

why act 2 is so long and a bit of a boring loop? will they adjust that somehow?

[fluid seal]

they did, its quite easy now. The Deadnought used to be hella tought supposedly on day 1

[wicked bolt]

it was

[rugged jolt]

anyone know how to get the dagger for the sacrifical heart quest I have had the heart in my inventory for like a week and every time i go to the dagger location its never there

[wicked bolt]

dreadnaught as melee .... i cry

[glacial palm]

Well, that's how you get it. You go to the sacrifice location and pick it up.

Should have a prompt to place the sacrificial heart on the altar if you're in the right place.

[wicked bolt]

also much been changed/improved recently, havent player in a while

[rugged jolt]

yeah the dagger is not there and i cannot place the heart

[glacial palm]

Not sure what to say. No secret to get the dagger somehow other than that.

Should post a bug report to the forum with some images or a video.

[obsidian forge]

welcome to the club, it took me 8 hours to beat jamanra for the first time 😦
you need to keep optimizing your build until you beat him. get better jewels, items, skill gems, increase quality, add slots for support gems, insert runes, you also need really good defences, not armour, unless it gives also defence against elemental damage
you need energy shield/tons of life/high resistances

if all of that sill won't work, you will have to find another skills

buy items for sure

with regal orbs

[glacial palm]

Or just beat him with <500 life, no ES, and take no damage 😦

Like the damage is genuinely avoidable.

[obsidian forge]

yeah "get good" is a bad advise most of the time

[wicked bolt]

aka dont get hit

[obsidian forge]

if you deal tons of damage, sure

[wicked bolt]

which is easier said then done

[obsidian forge]

can you survive for half an hour though?

[glacial palm]

Not sure "go back and put your build to the grindstone until you outdamage the mechanics" is good advice either.

[wicked bolt]

the not getting hit part i mean

better that simply get good

[obsidian forge]

hm seems like a great adise to me

because jamanra is just one boss, he will have to fight many more bosses

[glacial palm]

Telling new players that it is genuinely necessary to farm/grind just to continue through campaign is bad advice.

[obsidian forge]

why? it's the truth

[wicked bolt]

bruh

its true tho

upgrade or suffer pretty much

[obsidian forge]

EVEN if you watch guides, trade and farm, it's still hard

[glacial palm]

Upgrade, sure. Farm? Grind?

[wicked bolt]

if ya cant afford upgrades you need to farm for them

[glacial palm]

If you're telling me that you ever went back to kill monsters in an area you already cleared, trying to get an upgrade because you could not progress without it, you and I played different games.

[wicked bolt]

must have then

[obsidian forge]

yes I did, was farming second act till I hit level 38

[wicked bolt]

i also played warrior to start soooo

[obsidian forge]

to kill jamanra

it depends on how much luck you have with the build

you might choose a strong build or a weak build

[glacial palm]

I mean, I intentionally chose a weak build.

[wicked bolt]

if ya get really lucky you dont need to farm

[obsidian forge]

razarc gets me 😄

[glacial palm]

The boss fights may not have been as fast, but they were certainly doable.

[obsidian forge]

if you choose lightning arrow with lightning rod for example, you can just cruise through the whole campaign

[wicked bolt]

i re-ran areas many times to get lvls and gold to improve my character to beat later areas many times

[obsidian forge]

yeah leveling with mace is pain

I was leveling with fireball xD

[wicked bolt]

some classes are just base line stronger than others as well

[obsidian forge]

not classes, skills

[wicked bolt]

rolling slam

true

[obsidian forge]

or weapons

[wicked bolt]

mace is rough

fireball is a nice simple skill, effective

i hope they add the other weapons soon so we have more options for melee

[wicked bolt]

what class build tho?

[glacial palm]

Chronomancer, chaos dot.

So slow damage and no ascendancy damage boosts.

[wicked bolt]

main skill?

[glacial palm]

Dots.

Essence Drain, Contagion, Dark Effigy, Flame Wall, Poison.

That sort of thing.

I spent several minutes every boss fight doing mechanics and waiting for my stuff to kill the boss.

[wicked bolt]

doesnt sound like a weak build tbh sounds pretty decent

[glacial palm]

Give it a try sometime, or search the discord.

[wicked bolt]

chrono has some great stuff on it

[glacial palm]

It's commonly considered quite underpowered. Quite a few bugs, less sources of scaling, and chrono brings no damage to help.

So the fights always went long.

My first Viper fight was at least 5 minutes

[wicked bolt]

chrono is all utility and recoup if i recall, and u can get loads of recoup, was lvling a chrono warrior like character

[glacial palm]

... you don't bring loads of recoup to an act 2/act 3 normal fight.

You don't have enough ehp to survive strong hits and bring impactful recoup to the build.

[wicked bolt]

of course not i was just saying in general

[wheat dagger]

In Act 3, where are you supposed to dismantle gear you find? I can’t find the bench thing you normally do it at

[glacial palm]

In town it's towards the "back" (away from the steps)

If you're at the stash, head northwest and both benches should be there.

[wheat dagger]

Do I need to progress past the first “landing area”?

[woven wasp]

Act 2 need help with colossus boss please!

[glacial palm]

If you're talking about the area you are first in when you enter Act 3, yes.

[haughty niche]

The first area of that act isnt a town

[glacial palm]

You should progress until you reach an actual town shortly.

[haughty niche]

#2┃looking-for-group

[wheat dagger]

Kk ty

[willow needle]

theres no auto build like cyclone/RF right?

[meager galleon]

not yet

RF is thematically associated with templar and cyclone with either duelist or marauder, not sure, its likely those skills will get added when they add those classes

[willow needle]

hmm

didnt like to spam buttons while playing maps for example, so i might wait for an auto build

[autumn jasper]

hi i just wanted to find out im having problems with charged staff, combat frenzy and resonance. I'm not gettting the power charges from the abilities (I am also playing Monk Tempest flurrry invoker

[shut abyss]

are you freezing or electrocuting in anyway?

[autumn jasper]

tempest furry electrocuts the mobs as far as i am aware

[shut abyss]

if you got a support on it sure

i'm guessing you dont

[autumn jasper]

how do i see if i am or not?

[shut abyss]

look trough the support gems to see if there's one or two that says the electrocute

[autumn jasper]

i hava electrocute on it already

[shut abyss]

yeah that should work, are you actually electrocuting them before they die?

you might need neural overload too, i didin't like the combination so i just used freeze

[autumn jasper]

ok thank you!

[pseudo gull]

Still downloading... crying.

[shut wind]

Hello people I have a noob question

So Skeleton Warrior minions have energy shields that benefit from Discipline aura skill?

I get that Discipline is nice for Skeleton Mages but I wonder if warriors benefit from this too?

[trim turret]

No, discipline gives them energy shield. Unless they're getting it from someplace else. But by default they don't have energy shield.

[shut wind]

Do the Skeleton Mages have energy shield?

[trim turret]

I don't know. I don't think any minion has energy shield by default. That's why discipline exists. To give it to them.

[shut wind]

Oh ok, so if I have Discipline, Skeleton Warriors will get it too then

[restive slate]

is there anywhere to get maps of an area? im in grelwood, and would like to find the waypoint for example..

[lament stone]

theyre randomly generated

[restive slate]

fr?

how often do they change?

[fringe obsidian]

it's procedural, so there's a generic layout you can learn, but the little bits are random

[restive slate]

cuz the maps ive been going thru feel identical

[fringe obsidian]

we don't have a full list of all the layout rules

[restive slate]

ok. so at some point, every so often the outline of a map cchanges, but the general idea stays the same?

hmm. so theres no way for me to know where the waypoint is?

[lament stone]

every time you generate a new instance of that zone

[fringe obsidian]

Yes basically. imagine there's a guy in the background painting a huge low res image of the map, like "boss here, waypoint here, point of interest here" and then that goes to a layer of randomization which makes a random map that follows the general rules the guy in the background came up with. In POE 1 we have all the possible layouts known, but poe 2 is still new. so you'll need to figure some of it out. someone figured out the apex of filth in a3 on reddit. If the maps were true random it'd be awful lol

[cursive bluff]

Really? I thought it was always same layout just map gets rotated

[fringe obsidian]

it's procedural. similar layouts, sometimes rotated probably. random bits on top.

chris gave a whole talk about it at GDC it's very cool

[lament stone]

no, theyre not always identical, but theyre not totally random either, above is a good explanation of it

[restive slate]

oh. so the bosses, waypoints, entrances and exits are static, but the everything else is randomized?

[lament stone]

not completely static

[fringe obsidian]

static "within reason"

[restive slate]

how am i supposed to improve my gear?

[lament stone]

but generally like an exit will normally always be in the same direction

[cursive bluff]

Short answer? Time

[restive slate]

should i be trying to find a good starting thing or just take a crude bow and keep slapping somehting into it? if option 2, then what is the thing i amslapping into it

[lament stone]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1328202289755983932 this is specifically for improving gear without trading

[cursive bluff]

Everytime you level up check the vendors they restock their items and whenever you go to a new act

[fringe obsidian]

during campaign what I would do is every few levels I'd check the vendors, and the gambler, and look for upgrades. if a nice new base dropped in the wild, i'd chuck some currency at it and see if it was an improvement. towards the end of a3 I started using the trade site

it also depends on what kind of build you're doing, since some are more gear dependant than others

[restive slate]

what am i looking for in the vendors?

i see the gambler in clearfell

[fringe obsidian]

gear that is better than the gear you're wearing

[restive slate]

how much gambling should i be doing per gear item>?

[fringe obsidian]

totally up to you. I probably gambled too much on my first character lol

[azure lava]

#1328202289755983932

[restive slate]

should i be upgrading my items or should i be saving my upgrade resources for the next tier (idk how this game works) of item that i find

[fringe obsidian]

seems like people are linking you to a guide

and it looks pretty in depth! I'd check that out

[azure lava]

Yeah, I would answer your questions in more depth, but instead I wrote a guide with all the tips I could possibly give for gearing in the campaign

It got tedious answering people the same way every time so I made that

[restive slate]

thamks

is there a way to get back to riverbank? i assume theres a waypoint or something there that i missed

[lament stone]

theres no way to go back, theres no waypoint either, you can see because theres no blue glow in the circle

[azure lava]

There's also no reason to go back there

[lament stone]

that circle being empty is what it looks like when theres no waypoint in a zone

[haughty niche]

Both poes prevent you from going back to the starting area

[restive slate]

ok. i see the difference now. i thought that the grey meant i hadnt found the waypoint. i see theres no spiral.

[restive slate]

why?

[haughty niche]

dunno

no point

also i guess it prevents partying before entering the town, might be some jank code

[azure lava]

Well, in poe1 it could be to prevent you from farming oni garoshi on a decked out character

[haughty niche]

oh yeah thats absolutely it in poe1

[restive slate]

Tf is oni garoshi

[haughty niche]

its a 6-link sword that scales with character levels

[azure lava]

Not something for this channel

[haughty niche]

and a 6-link is basically poe1's way of letting a skill have 5 support gems

[lament stone]

theres an achievement in poe1 for dropping a unique in the first zone

[restive slate]

tf is 6 link😭

[fringe obsidian]

all this is poe 1 stuff

ignore it

[azure lava]

Poe1 shit, don't worry

[lament stone]

yea

[haughty niche]

ye

[fringe obsidian]

poe 1 is a much MUCH less forgiving game lol

[azure lava]

Depends on who you ask it seems

[haughty niche]

I hope they add an oni gorishi style thing for the Miller so i can see people suffer unnecessarily for 16+ hours every leaguestart in this game too

[azure lava]

Burden of knowledge is much greater in poe1, but the campaign is way more brutal in poe2

[restive slate]

whats burden of knowledge

[haughty niche]

I personally believe poe1 is more forgiving in all systems besides character building

[lament stone]

how much you know about the game basically

[haughty niche]

Character building they are like "fuck you, figure it out". Everything else is just easier/more attempts/more options

[fringe obsidian]

nah having to manage sockets while leveling and having to wear objectively worse gear because the sockets line up makes it harder.

[lament stone]

its a lot harder to start poe1 without knowing anything about poe1 because not much is explained to you ingame

[restive slate]

is there interesting lore in poe? is it good like wh40k/halo(pre343), or is it slapped together like warframe

[fringe obsidian]

yes it's super interesting!

[azure lava]

It's an idea in game design. Basically, the more stuff the player has to know in order to succeed/play optimally, the higher the burden of knowledge.

For example, tetris has a relatively low burden of knowledge. All the information is right there. Compare that to, say, league of legends or dota 2, where the player not only has to know how their character works, but they also need to know how all nine other heroes in the game operate or else they'll be at a severe disadvantage.

[haughty niche]

I believe my characters supposed to be delivering a pizza or something to someone in act 6, wasn't paying attention

[fringe obsidian]

poe 1 and 2 lore is great imo

[azure lava]

It's akin to dark souls lore. Lots of juicy stuff, but you gotta dig for it

[haughty niche]

the best lore in the game honestly comes from unique item flavor text and random npc dialogue

[restive slate]

its my first time anywhere in this sphere, but the continuity between areas feels slim. i go from zombies, to baby zombies, to sandworm from dune, to werewolves, to walking genitals in the red vale. how does that work :/

[azure lava]

And text dumps in zones

[haughty niche]

i think the continuity between zones is actually quite well done

you do need to be paying attention tho

[azure lava]

My head canon is that some loading zones are literally going through a door and some are three day hikes

[restive slate]

ok

with that perspective, makes mroe sense.

[azure lava]

But there's no in-universe explanation for the monster diversity being so abrupt between zones

[restive slate]

still tho. what are the maw demons.

[lament stone]

i think all of act 1 takes place over a single day just because of the lightning

[azure lava]

If you read the lore in some spots, there's reason to believe that the count fucking shit up actually made the moon stay in the sky for way longer than it should have

Or maybe it's all literally one day between the poe2 trailer and murdering him

Wait, do we see the sun rise in the trailer?

That throws my theory out the window

[lament stone]

in act 2 its a lot clearer that it takes place over weeks, maybe months

the caravan travelling across the whole desert defeinitely would take that long

[azure lava]

Yeah, that's how long it takes people to beat balbala in real time

(based on this channel)

And jamanra

[restive slate]

not everyone can sink 8 hrs a day into this

haha

[azure lava]

I truly don't understand why that matters. If you have four hours a week to play then you're still learning and accomplishing the same amount of stuff per hour as someone who plays 40 hours per week

[alpine silo]

balbala i never had trouble with, jamanra i had trouble with on my first playthrough as i didn't understand i had to stand near asala during his wind (?) attack

but when i understood what to do, i never had trouble with him again

[restive slate]

4 hours a week means 1 hr every other day. you will forget what you did in the last 10 minutes of each session. :/ less concentrated sessions, less learning...

[haughty niche]

Im the same. For some reason a lot of people see balbala go invisible and just give up without looking around the arena...

Jamal was annoyingly tanky and caused me to rethink my build's skills entirely

[azure lava]

Idk, I can see your point for the lack of focus and taking time to get back into it, but I don't see how that means you learn less. If anything, reviewing what you did last time helps you learn better

Of my hardcore deaths, none of them were to an act boss so far

[restive slate]

not everyone is studying poe 🙂 some people just get on, try to keep going fforward wo paying attention

[azure lava]

Then with that mindset they're going to do the same learning per hour with 4 hours a week or 40.

[restive slate]

lmao

if you are playing 40 hrs a week

you are doing 8/6 hours a dayt

thats time when someone could be passsivley staing at guides

and you wont forget as much

[azure lava]

How tf do you passively stare at a guide?

[restive slate]

4 hrs into a 40 hr session is like 6 or 8 into a 4 hour week session

[restive slate]

2nd monituor

w passive perk tree or skills to get

[azure lava]

That's not learning, that's mimicry

[restive slate]

all learning is mimicry

[azure lava]

Not true

[restive slate]

then yoiu learn enough to add different parts of past mimicry into something new

how did you learn to write or speak or read. how did you learn in the tutorials of most games. copy what you are told to do :/

[azure lava]

Sorry, let me rephrase. Mimicking passive trees and skill setups does not help you actually learn what those things do or help you figure out how to make your own builds

And I'm a poe player, I never learned how to read

[restive slate]

tru. but it will help you get to a place where you can find gear n stuff better & it also gives you an example of a good build, so you know what level of dps is "good"

[lament stone]

not really

[azure lava]

And even if staring at guides DID help you learn, it would be the same amount of learning with 4 hours or 40

[lament stone]

a lot of people in here have problems with their builds because they blindly follow guides without trying to understand why the guide builds the tree a specific way, uses specific uniques or gear, etc.

[azure lava]

My whole argument here is that you can still make about the same amount of progress per hour regardless of the amount of hours played

[restive slate]

my experience with halo 3 was that my 1 hour gaming sessions kept me locked in the desert level for half a month. if i had 15 extra minutes, i would have been able to get past...

[haughty niche]

Guides only actually help the player learn if the player is actively trying to understand why the build recommends what it does. Having been in help channels for a while, i can tell you that like 50% of people who come here aren't attempting to figure that out and are just blindly following the build

[restive slate]

but thats me

[azure lava]

This game has copious amounts of checkpoints

And if you can't make it to the next checkpoint in the time you have to play in a day, then this game likely doesn't fit your life

[restive slate]

i was coming at this from teh perspective of getting to a boss and being stuck because bad gear/ bad skills/ no bitches etc... fixing that is a long term task that interruptions would reduce the efficiency of.

but its ok

agreee to dissaggree

[azure lava]

I already conceded that there would be delays due to frequent interruption. We agree there at least

[restive slate]

👍 gtg

[azure lava]

Sometimes I wonder if I'm horribly derailing this channel

And then I read back through the last 10 pages and I stop wondering

[vapid sigil]

what would yall say is the most common elemental damage type in the campaign? really just trying to figure out which ones to prioritize maxing first

[obsidian forge]

the way I see it, in this game you have to read or watch guides or else you probably won't even make it through the campaign -_-

[obsidian forge]

fire

[glacial palm]

the way I see it, in this game you have to read or watch guides or else you probably won't even make it through the campaign -_-
Personally disagree.

[fringe obsidian]

meh I really only looked stuff up if it wasn't explicitly explained

[glacial palm]

May not be the easiest or quickest playthrough, but the game gives you everything you need for a campaign playthrough at least.

[obsidian forge]

well if you get lucky and choose the right build and then optimize it the right way, then you are good

[fringe obsidian]

I don't think you need guides. I definately haven't used any

[obsidian forge]

but what are the chances?

[glacial palm]

It doesn't take an optimal build though.

[fringe obsidian]

Pretty good I imagine? you just need to keep your head on straight when looking at skills / the passive tree

[glacial palm]

I absolutely just messed around with abilities that sounded cool to me, definitely didn't make optimal choices, didn't trade for gear.

[fringe obsidian]

and try not to overcommit to anyrthing too early

[obsidian forge]

are you guys poe1 players?

[vapid sigil]

I do agree that a good build is difficult to naturally discover given the sheer number of skills and supports

[glacial palm]

Flame Wall was in my build for the longest time just because I thought chaos projectiles going through the flame wall looked cool 😅

[obsidian forge]

because I am talking about mainly beginners

[fringe obsidian]

I am, but my brother isn't and he has had the same experience as me

[obsidian forge]

I see

[fringe obsidian]

I think that it's very easy to look at "THE OPTIMAL BUILD" and think you're doing it wrong

but it's better if you just don't do that

[vapid sigil]

Also the number of skills gems you get to experiment with really makes the first act and maybe even the second a pain if you don't build correctly

[fringe obsidian]

I found out weeks later that apparently summoner was supposed to be srs arsonist at launch

[obsidian forge]

hmm I got a lot of experience with RPG games and I was following different guides in the campaign but still it was incredibly hard and took forever

[fringe obsidian]

and if you did anything else you were making a huge mistake

[glacial palm]

This campaign can be survived largely by

• Keep your life up
• Keep your resistances up
• Build some kind of global defense consistently
• Find at least one ability that does damage and pick gear/passives that help that ability
• Learn the boss abilities and dodge (not required, but helps a lot)

[azure lava]

Unless you're going up against something that does a LOT of a specific damage type (cold for count geonor, lightning for jamanra, etc) then I'd advise just going for whatever gives you the most res in total rather than prioritize a specific type

[vapid sigil]

Totally. In particular I'm tossing in runes to fill out and trying to figure out which made more sense but I do agree.

[safe lance]

I add up all the res see what gives the highest total btw

[fringe obsidian]

yeah I just kind of went at it blind. picked minions. went for minion respawn time. went jfor minion damage. had some struggle moments in a2 and reworked some stuff. then unlocked skeletel reavers and took off. I think I looked up how the dog ignite effect on infernalist worked once lol

[obsidian forge]

yeah, also choose the right weapon and skills, upgrade the skill gem quality, add slots for support gems, insert runes, know which mods to look for and how to craft and trade etc etc

[frail ivy]

I just maxed out my first slot (monk) I want to try mercenary mage and ranger but idk what to start first

[glacial palm]

No. I did none of these.

[obsidian forge]

you were lucky with the build you chose then

[azure lava]

You can use any skill on any class. What archetype/skill do you want to use?

[glacial palm]

Chaos dot chronomancer? The secret OP strat? 😅

[safe lance]

if 1 gear gives like 70 res total either in 2 or 3 mods I personally treat it as a very good one.

[fringe obsidian]

I think that attributing good decision making to luck robs you of your own agency. don't do it friend

[obsidian forge]

a friend of mine was following my advise of spark+flame wall and got completely stuck in the campaign for example

[glacial palm]

Like I didn't feel lucky when Viper ran me a 4-5 minute, but I absolutely did beat it.

[obsidian forge]

because he just didn't know how to upgrade skills, items, what passives to take etc

[distant cedar]

Is there any way to get more spirit on acolyte of chayula?

besides gear

[glacial palm]

There's certainly room to optimize, but you're only really "failing" if you're comparing yourself to the streamer that has thousands of hours in poe1 and is tearing through the campaign.

[frail ivy]

I’ve seen builds on all of them. I want to try the stat maxing piller of the caged god mercenary build and I want to try 200k dps shock mage idk

[azure lava]

If you darkness then you can't get any spirit

[obsidian forge]

that's a lucky build. some of my bosses took me 15 minutes

[azure lava]

Both are very good but very expensive

[glacial palm]

I promise you most people in here would not be happy with a 5 minute boss fight, and would not call chaos dot a "lucky" or "strong" build.

[frail ivy]

I have almost 150 divines is that enough?

[glacial palm]

Most people would agree it has several bugs, and is lacking in ways to scale your damage.

[azure lava]

Idk, is it luck to find strong interactions from reading lots of stuff?

[distant cedar]

@azure lava I'm still doing ice/lightning build so I didn't invest into darkness

[obsidian forge]

I guess my main point is that the campaign in this game is incredibly hard unless you luck out with the choice of build, and you generally have to follow guides and learn about the game

[azure lava]

Yeah, probably lol. You're probably better off asking in #2┃build-planning or #2┃after-acts-help

[obsidian forge]

I have read a lot of stuff too and I thought my skill interaction was strong

turned out it wasn't

[glacial palm]

Hard disagree, but we're allowed to have opinions.

I think poe2 for me has been quite forgiving compared to poe in terms of what it demands from your build for the campaign.

[azure lava]

You get 100 from the campaign, and the only other ways you can get it on chayula monk is from chest pieces, amulets, and other uniques

[obsidian forge]

I mean, it was still way stronger than my build lol

[fringe obsidian]

this is my experience too

it's way easier to go in a different direction if something isn't working in this game

[obsidian forge]

some other popular RPGs are like 10 times easier in the campaign

[azure lava]

Was the interaction weak or was your gear weak?

[obsidian forge]

hell, even dark souls and elden ring games are easier imo

[obsidian forge]

both

[frail ivy]

Thanks

[glacial palm]

We don't know that though?
For all I know you were dealing with mechanics differently, and did not have as much time to deal damage or were constantly needing to wait for regen.
For all I know, you didn't check vendors for gear upgrades, or use the items that constantly dropped for you that said "add a modifier to a magic item" to get better synergy from your gear.

[craggy gyro]

Hey, does anyone know anything about minions and can tell me which is better to start with, Archer or Arsonist?

[glacial palm]

Like we can't know how your build did, or what choices you made 😦

[fringe obsidian]

I'd argue elden ring is way too simple, so it makes the game easy if you have any idea how stat scaling works (stares at reduvia dagger)

[glacial palm]

But the answers are all in front of us, no guide required.

[azure lava]

I don't think someone's ability to accurately clock a strong interaction is "luck" tho

[fringe obsidian]

Probably arsonist for leveling, because you can scale them easily with flame wall and srs

[glacial palm]

You want to talk about optimizing mapping or crafting, I can see an argument there that people need to* (or should) get into outside resources.
Campaign though?

[dusky burrow]

release would not agree with that, nobody had guides and most did just fine

[azure lava]

Luck makes it sounds like you threw darts to pick your skills, passives, and ascendancy and won big

[obsidian forge]

I tried to learn about the game and checked vendors, but didn't craft

idk, I feel like you guys all come from poe1

it gives you a big advantage

I speak as someone who started with poe2

[craggy gyro]

yes feeling strange Arsonist for Clear and archer feeling better for bosses the gas one shot bosses very crazy .

[obsidian forge]

I got tons of experience with diablo 2 and 4, lost ark and similar games

[glacial palm]

Of course I did, but the only advantage it gave me was I found out before I died or I got a giant banner message saying my resistances were lowered that I needed to build defensively 😅

[obsidian forge]

poe2's campaign is just stupidly hard

compared to other games

[fringe obsidian]

yep! and there's nothing wrong with doing both while leveling. as you move later into the game I've personally found that it's very hard to support multiple types of summons effectively, so I'd recomend against that. but for leveling just do what works

[dusky burrow]

again, the player numbers for the weeks after release would not agree with that

[fringe obsidian]

oh and skeletal reavers are insane and as soon as you get them just go hard on them

[dusky burrow]

and many did not come from any experience then

[glacial palm]

The only thing that I would say is that unlike many games in the genre, poe (as a series now) both expects and forces you to invest in your defenses throughout the campaign.

[craggy gyro]

ok thx 🙂

[fringe obsidian]

yeah I was actually pretty shocked how well some of my non-poe friends picked it up.

[distant cedar]

Yeah I thought so, thats why I have considered grabbing a Morior Invictus with spirit per socked rune or soul core. I'm close to the end of act 3 cruel and have not had any issues through cruel, with only 1 or 2 deaths so far with my setup but I need the spirit.

[obsidian forge]

I think the poe's reputation is just so good that a lot of new players like myself made a lot of effort to learn the game

[glacial palm]

You will upgrade your gear, you will take life/res, or you will be dying on occasion at a minimum.

[dusky burrow]

it's much easier to pick up than poe1, that's for sure

[craggy gyro]

but its sad we have no splash or somting. 😄

[dusky burrow]

we had better retention than any poe1 league even with all the new players, who usually depress retention by being more liable to quit

[fringe obsidian]

yeah the way they deal area damage is by there being so many of them since their spirit cost is low

like yeah I technically have no aoe but I do have 16 skeleton reavers

[craggy gyro]

but unfortunately we have the constipation problem....

[fringe obsidian]

uhhhhhh what? oh doorways! yes that blows. but now that they tp to you if you get far away it's manageable

[craggy gyro]

Small areas the dead for Meele Minions...

[craggy gyro]

i want convocation so Bad .... 😄

[obsidian forge]

what constipation problem?

[fringe obsidian]

he means that minions struggle to fit through doors if you have too many lol

chokepoints

it is definitely the worst part about summoners right now

[wispy sable]

is +4 cap for the uber encounters ?

[smoky lava]

Hello can someone tell/help me to find best deadeye build to follow?

[wispy sable]

or can you spec for +6 ?

[fringe obsidian]

check out after-acts help sorry. this is for campaign questions

https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/1308714975082053693

[wheat dagger]

Um, I apparently have -Fire Resistance?

[obsidian forge]

you can't just say best, it can mean different things

[fringe obsidian]

yes you lose 10% resistance each act

[glacial palm]

Can happy sadly, one of the ways the game encourages you to build more resistances 😦

Ideally you want to keep your resistances as close to the cap (75%) as possible, but getting them positive would be a good start.

[wheat dagger]

I wish I hadn’t bought this game lmao what is that

[fringe obsidian]

not sure now necessary that is in campaign

[obsidian forge]

what's wrong?

[haughty niche]

Balance

[glacial palm]

It's a way to make sure that you don't play through the campaign, get to the endgame, then get dumped into maps and wonder why you're getting one-shot by everything.

[fringe obsidian]

a very very small drawback each act lol. you can get around it pretty easily

[glacial palm]

It gradually progresses the damage you take, encouraging you to build your resistances up over time.

[haughty niche]

As you progress, gear keeps becoming able to roll higher amounts of resists too. It makes it so that you still have gear upgrades after the first act.

[wheat dagger]

Wouldn’t the more intuitive thing be to just… make enemies deal damage that scales to the damage you’re gonna take in endgame content?

[haughty niche]

Then you wouldnt have gear progression

[obsidian forge]

poe follows in the diablo 2 footsteps

I personally love it

that's why negative resistances

[wheat dagger]

Cause I’m sitting here with 11% fire resistance and I’m like… I know that’s not right

Then I remove one of my pieces of gear and then it’s negative

[glacial palm]

They do, but then you would end up in situations where the gear that was dropping would need to maintain current resistance levels rather than becoming better and offering more resistances in individual slots.

[fringe obsidian]

oh make sure that you look around the acts! there are permanent resist buff in some zones

[glacial palm]

Leading to you needing to give up more of your other helpful stats to fit those resistances.

[wheat dagger]

I have killed every boss that one can kill in Act 1 and 2

I just made it to Act 3 today

[fringe obsidian]

oh nice what are you playing?

[wheat dagger]

At least, every boss that shows up on the point of interest map

[wheat dagger]

Stormweaver

[fringe obsidian]

oh cool I was gonna roll one of those next. any good?

[glacial palm]

The difference between a giant "resistances lowered by 10% banner" when you enter a new act and enemies dealing damage increased to the same amount as if your res got lowered is that one is visible to the player immediately, and one you don't find out until you get hit and wonder why you just started dying.
I know what I prefer

[wheat dagger]

I mean, I’m having fun. But idk

[fringe obsidian]

lol fair. at any rate. since resists are a percentage thing, just raising enemy damage wouldn't be a great solution to increasing the gear requirements, since the percentages cap out eventually. this forces you to upgrade your gear.

[wheat dagger]

No see I think that’s far worse because if you start dying faster, you’ll realize that you need more defense since… that’s just standard fare in 99% of RPGs

[glacial palm]

... faster than immediately upon entering an act and being greeted by a giant "You have lower resistances" banner before you even see an enemy?

[fringe obsidian]

again it's because resists are a percent. it's why they don't lower your evasion/armour/energy shield. those are flat values that you build

[glacial palm]

Like the end result is the same, enemies do more damage, but one you literally have a giant warning about the difficulty increase almost immediately upon entering an act, before you fight anything.

[dusky burrow]

it screws up the scaling

[glacial palm]

Like I'm not sure how it gets any faster.

[dusky burrow]

the only reason the enemies in higher acts have more hp & deal more damage are because their monster level is higher

[wheat dagger]

I’m not sure I understand how

[dusky burrow]

so there is a certain consistency between player level and monster level

but more importantly it screws up the way resistances are balanced

you'd have revamp all of that if there werent any penalties

which if you really want you can do that, but the upside is questionable

[fringe obsidian]

at the end of the day, lowering resists has been a thing since the days of d2. It's been tested and found to work in this kind of game. it makes sense for this defense type.

[glacial palm]

Personally I'm not a big fan of the diablo approach of "Let me raise the torment level, and I'm getting one shot again, guess I need more of... something?"

[devout hare]

hi lf for people to help

[obsidian forge]

what do you need

[fringe obsidian]

what can we do for you

[dusky burrow]

lol they want to be the one doing the helping

[devout hare]

i want people who i can give help to

[dusky burrow]

you just camp and wait until someone asks a question

[devout hare]

oki

how many question do i answer to get role

[fringe obsidian]

yeah then we all jump on the question at the same time and give conflicting answers

[devout hare]

you are enemy...

[fringe obsidian]

⛄

[devout hare]

☃️

[haughty niche]

Also if you don't know the answer to a question, either research first or don't answer/preface you aren't sure.

[devout hare]

okayy :3

[haughty niche]

i was in poe1 help channel for like 2 years before my name randomly changed green

[devout hare]

WHAAT

2 years

[haughty niche]

i think its moldy or something

[devout hare]

xd

[haughty niche]

Really though im pretty sure they just update helper roles based on recent activity every few leagues (when a league launches theres a massive influx of new people asking questions so it helps to have new helpers)