2┃new-player-in-campaign-help

[stark lynx]

They wont make that, let alone feasable when server handles most of the gameplay calculations

[stark needle]

Hi guys, question from a newbie. My friends say the game is gonna cost at least 30 euros to play. Is that true?

[hearty walrus]

the early access is pay to play

full release will be free

[ripe cape]

game itself is free.
but Early access is paid

[stark needle]

Aha, early access is from tomorrow?

[hearty walrus]

starts tomorrow, yeah

ea is expected to last at least 6 months, at most a year

[stark needle]

Thanks a lot

[spare ruin]

ngl i dont understand anything about poe2 Ima just learn while playing

is there anything basic i should know

[ripe cape]

try to have fun, explore, read skills and passives

[hearty walrus]

reading is a very important skill

[loud stag]

Oh ik. But would have been nice to see a game like it

[hearty walrus]

last epoch has an offline mode

[loud stag]

Well if their doing visual now it won't be as bad.

Btw what class will have flicker strike I wonder

[ripe cape]

quarterstaff

[loud stag]

And what accend has the time stop

[patent charm]

As long you dont force urself to play x gameplay for gain 4% damage but get bored after 1 hour...
Just have fun all will be good ^^

[ripe cape]

Chronomage

[loud stag]

Chronomage with flicker strike.

[ripe cape]

possible

[loud stag]

Seems more than possible.

But dk if they'll have anything to convert spell to atk

[ripe cape]

more like Phys to element.

not sure if other way around is common

[loud stag]

Well on poe u can convert spell to atk

[hearty walrus]

you can't

chronomancer only has one node directly related to spells

[loud stag]

Make a high hp then convert the HP to spell by shield then helm to spell to atk.

[loud stag]

It's equipment conversion not accend

Ascend has nothing to do with the conversations.

The conversions are more passive tree.

The Chronomage was for the time stop

[somber tundra]

how ever you get ingame currency so not exactly but yes

[hearty walrus]

there are things to apply spell damage to attacks, but that's not conversion

[hearty walrus]

?

[somber tundra]

i mean you pay not only for EA

[loud stag]

The shield I was meaning on conversation.

Your hp goes to spell.

[hearty walrus]

well, yeah. you can buy stash tabs too

[loud stag]

You know what I meant lol

[hearty walrus]

kinda, I'm tired

[loud stag]

The shields not hard

Tho the HP loss sucks.

[spare ruin]

the real problem is about building my character im afraid of bricking my character

wait is respec available all the time

[sick whale]

we can respec at any time right ? i dont wanna brick my character and having to start over

[light sun]

from what i've heard you can respec about everything except for the ascendency class you pick

[sick whale]

yeah thats fine. i mean for skill and stuff like those. ascendency are basically classes/jobs those usually cant be change

[light sun]

yeah, i think its good

[sick whale]

well, Im a new player trying to get into PoE... let see how goes 😆

[lost kayak]

Yeah skills are gems
You can just slot them in and out like equipment
So now worries there

[sick whale]

🎉 thats really nice

[spare ruin]

thats good to hear cause ik im gonna messed up

[light sun]

same, but i watched some video of a guy explaining how to make my own build and i feel like i have a chance of understanding slightly more than i normally do.

paired with optional respec, i'll be okay somehow

[spare ruin]

What video?

cause i need it lmao

[light sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42vMPiJRaqE

it helps with getting overview and deciding where to go in the skill tree

[spare ruin]

wait this dude did genshin guide lmao

didnt know he move to poe

[tacit knot]

What are weapon set skill points?

[light sun]

i dont know anything about him beyond that video.

[sick whale]

i will check it

[light sun]

but the video helped me . or at least i feel like it'll help me

[ripe cape]

actually helpful I agree

[loud stag]

I'm yoloing it.

Idk what class I'm going yet tho either way

Gonna look at the passive tree first before anything else.

[sick whale]

Im going witch infernalist... and hope i can make a caster build

[spare ruin]

Thanks for the vid i've watch it and actually understand what im supposed to do with my build

either im gonna cook or i got cooked

[ripe cape]

we all are

[tacit knot]

If i do a low damage hits that "always ignites" and do some damage, eitber physical high damage or fire high damage non-igniting

Will that replace the ignite w higher damage or only hits that cause an ignite are counted?

I threw physical in there just to check if that could work

[sick whale]

Im 100% sure i will get cooked xD trying to figure it out something

[spare ruin]

Im so gonna cook with my monk build

im so excited lmao the early acess is playable at 3 am for me

[light sun]

im also going monk!

[hardy vigil]

there are hundreds of thousands of us!

[spare ruin]

ngl i just finished black myth wukong thats why im gonna play monk

im going with invoker cause i dont understand a thing about the other ascendancy

[tacit knot]

What is "meta skills"

[ripe cape]

skills to put other skills inside

like cast on ignite

Trigger skills basically

[tacit knot]

Uf. Let me think. "Cast on..."

Are there more?

[ripe cape]

lots

[tacit knot]

But i get that its rhe skills that say cast on ...

Are there more that u can describe with .... On ....

Ah anyway ill write it down

Sorry not that experienced

[ripe cape]

Critical, melee kill, minion death, and others

[tacit knot]

Are all these gems down there meta skills? https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Trigger

[ripe cape]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Gem see here, search for meta

[tacit knot]

Oh thanks

Thats handy

[light sun]

absolutely same

[ripe cape]

Shadowmonk is basically a more defensive or Chaos variant.

[tacit knot]

So hoe should i see

"meta skills gain 35% more energy"

[azure lava]

This is the description of cast on melee kill, for example:
"While active, gains energy when you kill enemies with melee attacks and triggers socketed spells on reaching maximum energy."

Meta skills have various ways of gaining energy and that invoker node makes them generate more

So they trigger sooner and more frequently

[wary saddle]

Never played poe, is it casual friendly? Like a few hours a week ig

[lost kayak]

Poe2 seems to be designed to be more new player friendly and being more intuitive.
There are a lot of qol aspects that definitely make it a bit easier to get into compared to poe1

[ember mica]

poe 1 specifically is one of those games where you're considered a new player if you have 5000 hours in the game lol. And it kinda rings true. poe 2 is keeping the same complexity, but raising the floor a bunch to introduce mechanics better. And considering the game is starting on a clean slate and not 10 years worth of systems and content added in, it's likely gonna be a lot easier to get the hang of

[velvet walrus]

Where should I start learning about poe2 game mechanics?
If I know absolutely nothing about it

Mechanics as in skills, passives, currency, mobs, etc

[hardy vigil]

poe2wiki.net, poe2db.tw, Dreamcore's youtube channel
Take all information with a grain of salt until it is confirmed after EA launch.

[jagged sandal]

since poe2 will take over many mechanics from poe1, you could search for videos like „poe tips and tricks“ and such.

you could also check reddit and look for „free early access key“-posts, which often ask for tips. i found many helpful tips there.

[velvet walrus]

Thanks guys will check it out

[ember mica]

also just the big GGG livestream is a tiny bit of a crash course. But doesn't really go super deep in detail.

My personal recommendation would be to maybe just check out some surface level stuff like the livestream that has a showcase of skills and classes and stuff, and then just play the game. Poe is a kind of game where if you try to learn everything before just jumping in, you'll end up 48 hours later with 100 tabs open, 15 spreadsheets, and be infinitely more confused than before you started lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpIbaTXJD4g

[velvet walrus]

I'm thinking of playing without a build guide for now
But for that I would have to have a basic idea of how things work

[ember mica]

I would actually recommend not using a build guide for now because anyone who is putting out a "guide" is lying lol. We don't know NEARLY enough to put out any sort of guide at all

[spare ruin]

ima go in blind aswell no worries we all learning here

[ember mica]

yeah the most you could realistically know right now is generally what skills and support gems you want to use, and what ascendancy you want to go. And that's like, literally 2% of what a "build" is. So we're all effectively going in blind

[spare ruin]

thats what make the game fun each league your build will be more optimize because you understand better

especially with the new respec system

your build will definetly turn out fine

[velvet walrus]

What's the new respec

[jagged sandal]

you can use gold to respec far more often

[spare ruin]

@ember micaquick question should i update my game driver since the new update it included poe2

[tribal thistle]

Anyone know if POE1 armor microtransactions wil be available in POE2?

[spare ruin]

the update literally just released

[ember mica]

uhh yeah i guess so haha. always a good idea to keep drivers up to date

and yeah all mtx from poe 1 will be ported to poe 2

provided they have a place. Like if a skill doesnt exist or a stash tab doesnt exist in poe 2, it won't port

[severe hedge]

Hey guys D4 playere here, first time will be playing the game. I have a question about spells , Is true statement that 1 spell can have 6 support gems ?

[hardy vigil]

There will be more information in the game than before because of nested tooltips in descriptions.

[ember mica]

5 supports each

[small birch]

guys, just for refence, 100 premium currency is around 10 euros? haven't really ever bought it so i was wondering how much it is

cause i want to understand if buying the early access is as expensive as buying 300 points.. i don't know if i made myself clear, my english is bad

[stark lynx]

Yeah that ratio is always the same

[hardy vigil]

$30 supporter pack = 300 points. Buying 300 points from their site = $30

[stark lynx]

With packs you get moneys worth of points + pack's content

[small birch]

ok, that's hella good

and another question.. there won't be any league right? it's just standard mode?

[rich rain]

login

[cursive hearth]

👀

[scenic salmon]

I think I messed up my tree how many respect points in campaign?

[hardy vigil]

did you want poe1 help? 👀

[scenic salmon]

No I'm just delusional

[jovial grotto]

Question guys.
i know we have to download the client from the website to have the early access tomorrow, or better to predownload.
Is there any information when i can download it from steam? Tomorrow when the early access starts?

[lost kayak]

Most probably yes

Tomorrow

[jovial grotto]

thanks! yeah, for me its tomorrow, is it for your today? 😄

i will download both

[lost kayak]

Tomorrow as well
But I'm thinking of doing standalone as well in 8 hours

[oak portal]

is this game very gore or disturbing? I dislike those things which is why I can't play diablo but idk anything about this game

[ripe cape]

it is adult themed, yes. expect blood and some gore

[scenic salmon]

Malachai fight is pretty bad maybe watch that part of the game

[ripe cape]

check the PoE2 endgame showcase and see for yourself

[ripe cape]

this is not PoE1

[scenic salmon]

I thought it'll be a good reference
But the graphics changed quite a bit

[half sierra]

Hi can someone help me find the client download link? im confused on where to do that because its not on steam apparently

[ripe cape]

no download yet

[somber shard]

wanna just any news on psn store too?

[ripe cape]

PS store should have dl in about 3 hours

[somber shard]

Alright will give a check later on

[calm urchin]

what about steam download?

[ripe cape]

won't have one until launch

[calm urchin]

bruh always steam ffs

[ripe cape]

no preload for Early access.

[grim dock]

what does magic find do again in poe2 ? compared to 1

[ripe cape]

likely the same ... but we can't confirm.

[grim dock]

ok ty

[tacit knot]

Can a skill that says "targets an enemy" but that has +5 melee strike range also hit the group behind him or is it focuses on that enemy

Talking about impale

[ripe cape]

it targets "A target". so no AoE.
+5 range is just 5 meters

[tacit knot]

Also whats tbe "jump back from target" supposed to mean?

Like irs next to target and jumps away?

Thanks a lot

So it basically means hits 1 target from mAx 5 meters

[ripe cape]

but also as a Spear gem, it is not available in EA Launch

[tacit knot]

Is this basicslly saying, 1 second per stage, maximum 3 stages (=3s)

[civic shell]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[ripe cape]

I'd say so

[stiff tiger]

Everyone take a break from their PC tonight.

[ripe cape]

rather tomorrow so I can play 😛

[spare ruin]

in general whats a good stash tab to buy

[ripe cape]

currency and some Premium but wait for stash sale

[spare ruin]

i heard currency tab is one

[spare ruin]

when is it?

[white bluff]

What does "+1 level to cold skill" do exactly?

[ripe cape]

possibly the EA Launch Weekend.

[rich rain]

more damage

[ripe cape]

increases gem level by 1.
basically improving stats, dmg and mana

[white bluff]

ok ty!

[tacit knot]

Guys honestly for a beginner what playstyle is easier. Melee or magic

[grim dock]

melee imo you are 'tankier' with passive block + usually hp regen

[stiff tiger]

archer

[ripe cape]

hard to say as no one here can tell a lot about the game yet.

play what is fun to you

[grim dock]

^ ye most important rune

[tacit knot]

Is the "chance to bloxk" on the shields for both spells and attackz by rhe way?

I noticed the shield said 25% chance to block

[hardy vigil]

Yes, the monster hits are just hits.

[tacit knot]

Not specifying

[ripe cape]

the first week will see so many bricked builds lol

[tacit knot]

Oh yea ty

[ripe cape]

Block is mainly for Physical attacks.
there is the specifier Spell block too

[white bluff]

If you have two spell skill on a meta gem, like Cast on Freeze. Does the attribute requirement add to each other?

like 64 int spell and 34 int spell, would make it a 98 int requirement?

[ripe cape]

I don't think so. but also Not sure.

gem requirement was never additive

[river zephyr]

Can you change your starting point on tree when you respec or are you stuck with that location

[ripe cape]

no

Class selects startingpoint

[grave cloak]

Since support gems say +{any attribute} I think its safe to say active gems do add their attribute requirements since those are missing the + sign

[subtle quarry]

New player here. I keep seeong videos about "minion builds" to mee minions is like necromancer minions. But all the guides are like chrono "minion" build. Warrior "minion" build. Can everyone summon minions? Im confused

[scenic salmon]

Yes, in PoE the skills aren't associated with the characters

[ripe cape]

Skills can be used by every class

[scenic salmon]

You can be a fire mage hunter if you think it'll work

[ripe cape]

some just have an easier time utilizing

[hardy vigil]

outdated info. Block is against all blockable hits, which is pretty much all strikes and projectiles but not aoe moves. There is no "spell block" anymore.

[ripe cape]

active block or passive block?

[hardy vigil]

Both can and cannot block the same moves AFAIK.

[safe lance]

yes I did watch a dreamcore video last night. They are now considered hits and no distinguishing between projectiles/strikes/spells etc.

[ripe cape]

mhm good if true.

but 1 month is a long while 😄

[tacit knot]

Anyone has a link. To passive tree w starting locations?

[hardy vigil]

best we have is
https://marcoaaguiar.github.io/poe2-tree/?a=gemling&p=Q or
https://poe-2-skill-tree-planner.vercel.app

[tacit knot]

Yea what you guys just discussed it does make block easier right? But i suppose that nodes that say you can now block all damage blocks even aoe? I think i saw such node

Thanks

[safe lance]

I don't understand the advantage of active block, I guess its just the 100% chance?

[scenic salmon]

Active block is better if you don't block?

[hardy vigil]

That exists for evasion, not block I think.

[safe lance]

I am confused

active block blocks damage from hits with 100% chance but only from front and still same rules as block for aoe from what I understand.

[hardy vigil]

perhaps better say 100% chance since both block 100% dmg by default

[glad kite]

I wonder if unlike poe 1 in 2 we are going to be able to group up for the tutorial boss

[hardy vigil]

☹️ Miller must achieve highest player kill count for launch week.

[ripe cape]

you can apparently start in party from the start
or perhaps that was just couch coop

[scenic salmon]

Will there be an special item if you kill the starting boss 50 times too?

[hearty walrus]

no idea

[hardy vigil]

we've seen couch on the beach but normal multiplayer may have to wait for first town.

[hearty walrus]

and it's from killing hillock at level 7/8

[safe lance]

what if you die 50 times to starting boss? Then should have a mirrored item of that one for it

[glad kite]

I wonder if its only couch coop and if not if it's literally after creating your character you can group up

[safe lance]

Also to clarify, someone said couch coop cant do multiple accounts, that sounds very bad. My wife doesnt play these kind of games but usually tries for a week or two out of hype and we were actually gonna try couch coop tomorrow to start.

[glad kite]

Can't wait to die 50 times against him

[ripe cape]

one account or two both is possible

[safe lance]

I guess she would be technically leveling a twink char for me haha

[safe lance]

ah ok, people seemed to think only one for some reason. But then we'd also have to see how EA works with this, so maybe just on my account then.

[tacit knot]

Men it so hard to compare a melee gem i.e. 70% damage of weapon. And a fire gem both of level 1 (ie, 5 burning damage per second). Also how they level scale, and knowing what "weapon damage" to expect. I suppose there are no ways around that?

[glad kite]

I remember something about being able to start together so I hope we don't have to

[safe lance]

I can't tell if hand of chayula is good or bad. People are saying monsters are very leech resistant?

[spare ruin]

thats so cute

Bro living the life

[safe lance]

Then I dont understand the part about darkness, so it can never reserve life?

[ripe cape]

reseve spirit as darkness replaces spirit

[safe lance]

sry spirit*

so you reserve with darkness? That part wasnt explicitly called out.

[ripe cape]

it is basically a defensive layer. but also with the following notable you don't want to get hit so you can deal more chaos dmg

[safe lance]

but looks like darkness depletes so we'll have to turn the reserved skills on manually every time?

[ripe cape]

with Darkness you won't be able to reserve anything, meaning no minions or trigger gems

[safe lance]

so just no reservation at all if you decide to go chayula?

[ember mica]

If you decide to use the darkness passives

[ripe cape]

if you decide to pick up Darkness

[safe lance]

yea sry just the nodes 7 thru 9

or 8 thru 9 I forget

[ember mica]

7 8 9 are all related to darkness

1-6 have no interaction with darkness

[ripe cape]

it has good survival as far as I see. with the breach sight and all

Also dice roll

[safe lance]

yea the left ascendancies all seem a bit restrictive but straightforward (I am only interested in monk/merc and maybe ranger so just looked at those), the right ones seem very flexible and its hard to gauge what builds they could even play.

[spare ruin]

is premium quad stash tab is just normal premium tab but you get 4 of those

[tacit knot]

Anyone know what a frenzy charge will do

[safe lance]

no its a big tab

[hearty walrus]

it's a premium tab with 4x the space

[ripe cape]

one stash tab the size of 4

[spare ruin]

ohh

[safe lance]

in poe 1 it gives more attack/cast speed iirc

and then there are skills and passives that use frenzy charge

some do damage per charge, some actually consume charges etc.

[spare ruin]

im planning to buy currency tab and map tab anything i should add dont mind spending money

im waiting for sales too

[ripe cape]

no maps in PoE2. and no replacement yet

[spare ruin]

oh

[hearty walrus]

have you not seen the reveal stream?

[safe lance]

I am planning on 1. upgrading all 4tabs to premium. 2. currency 3. fragment 4. Maybe map

[ripe cape]

we don't know if map tab will be converted to Waystone

[hearty walrus]

i don't see why it wouldn't

we'll have to see, but i'm pretty sure it will be

[safe lance]

Well I asked you guys last night and you were reassuring that map tab will most likely cover waystones

[ripe cape]

might 😄

[spare ruin]

my attention span is not great i watched them fully but probably got distracted

how many tab you get originally

[safe lance]

4

well at least in poe1

[spare ruin]

and could you upgrade them?

[safe lance]

I havent seen a single visual of them showing stash in poe2 yet. It couldve been in the big stream and I just missed it

[hearty walrus]

you can upgrade them to premium

[spare ruin]

well looks like i will be coming back here tomorrow to ask which tab to buy

[hearty walrus]

a currency and premium are a very safe bet

[safe lance]

I already have too many useless tabs in PS5 as I didnt know what were actually important, just going to get the ones I said above for PC.

[ember mica]

When you buy anything in the GGG store or on steam or whatever, you get the full value of your purchase in "points". You can spend those points on stash tabs. Typical recommendation for poe 1 is a currency tab, premium tab, map tab. That will likely still be the case in poe 2, assuming the map tab beceoms a waystone tab

[spare ruin]

should i upgrade all my regular tab to premium and add nother premium tab or is that overkill

[ember mica]

stuff like a currency tab only holds specific currencies, but you can hold thousands of each, rather than being limited by stack size and having a single tab like completely filled with 40 stacks of ID scrolls.

Premium tab allows you to put things in the tab and sell to other players

[safe lance]

I am planning on doing it. The upgrade is 15 coins and 10 when on sale iirc.

[ember mica]

I would just upgrade, it's cheaper.

[safe lance]

And apparently next sale is in 6 hours.

[autumn escarp]

so we'll have a tab sale for poe2?

[hardy vigil]

in theory

[spare ruin]

is fragment a good one to buy

[ember mica]

Possibly. They usually run on 3-week intervals. But things get pushed around with new league launches. Who's to say with a whole new game launch

[safe lance]

The sale I am taking about is for poe1 but the mtx are shared so it would translate.

[ember mica]

in poe 1, yes for sure. No idea in poe 2

I would just wait, don't buy anything just now

[safe lance]

yea fragment was very helpful for poe 1.

upgrading to premium and currency are probably the safest to buy.

[spare ruin]

yeah im just writing a list of what to spend my coin on

[ember mica]

For now, upgrade to premium, currency, and map/waystone are always good. That again is assuming the map tab converts to the waystone tab

Anything else I'd wait to see

People will probably have answers within minutes of the game going live haha. We'll all be sorting our ported tabs over the minute we get into town

[safe lance]

here are the prices when on sale, so you can add up to see what comes to 300 https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Stash#Buying_Extra_Tabs

[spare ruin]

oh thanks i didnt know this existed

[safe lance]

this is what I have written down so far

[spare ruin]

well luckily that 300 point is enough

[small birch]

oh, to download the game i must wait tomorrow?

[tacit knot]

Havent found any "warcries are instant" yet. Wonder if itll exist

[spare ruin]

yup

[ember mica]

fragment might also not be super important. Since we won't have stuff like scarabs or a million different boss fragments (yet). I assume stuff like those tablets will go there

[safe lance]

they at least showed vessels, so I was kinda confident some version of it will exist

[ember mica]

!preload

[desert sedge]

PC Standalone Preload: <t:1733446800:f>
PS5 Founder's Pack+Preload: <t:1733425200:f>
Game Launch: <t:1733511600:f>
Steam Preload: Speculated to be a few Hours before game launch. Not confirmed, and may change

[ember mica]

@small birch ^

[small birch]

while i can buy the early access whenever i want? even in a week? or after tomorrow i can't buy anymore?

[small birch]

tyvm

[ember mica]

you can buy it whenever, EA is gonna last 6-12 months. So that's how long you have haha

[tacit knot]

In how many hours is that download

[ember mica]

7, you can see it above lol

[hazy vault]

Is there preload now? I think they said Dec 5?

[ember mica]

#2┃new-player-in-campaign-help message

[tacit knot]

Yea 7it isnt the same time everywhere lol

[ember mica]

it's coded to be in your local time zone

[hazy vault]

dude that was literally 2 mins before I asked the question, no wonder I didn't see it /s
thanks!

[tacit knot]

Ah nice

[small birch]

ok, perfect, i'll buy it tomorrow

[craggy gyro]

Are ascendancy points refundable

[small birch]

can't wait for 6 months

but we are getting no league right? it's just standard?

[ember mica]

ascendancy points, yes. But you can't change to a different ascendancy

[craggy gyro]

Is it just like with gold or something

[ember mica]

The idea is that there will be new leagues during EA. At the start it will all just be one standard server, split between SC/HC/SSF all that.

[hazy vault]

What are the main differences between Steam and Standalone client?

[ember mica]

yeah gold

[craggy gyro]

I'm guessing most titans are going to refund after 2nd ascendanc to hit that hulking form node

[hardy vigil]

I'm guessing most titans are going to unga while they bunga.

[ripe cape]

nothing

[ember mica]

nothing really. Steam allows you to track total play time and has steam achievements (standalone also has achievements but some people like to collect steam ones).

[craggy gyro]

That colossal capacity node is so weird tbh

[ripe cape]

gatekeeping the best node

[safe lance]

yea imagine what you can carry extra, smh

[ember mica]

ruck sack was like, insanely popular in poe 1 haha. People were genuinely upset when they said they weren't bringing it back.

Strange it's on an ascendancy, as people wouldn't take it normally. But considering it's behind arguably the best node in the game, people are gonna take it happily haha

[safe lance]

was there an actual use for it?

[ember mica]

Yeah 20 extra slots is huge. If not just for organization, it was just great to have the extra space on juiced maps

[ripe cape]

i think it was mainly good for the Charm slots after it 😄

[craggy gyro]

True but it wasn't tied to ascendancy

[safe lance]

I;'ve only played TR and Ps mines in this game, so idk if minion builds have to carry those bodies around

[craggy gyro]

well i guess it was but idk

[ember mica]

Most people wouldn't take it as an ascendancy node if it were alone, as ascendancies are where a ton of power come from. But since it leads into a very powerful node after it, it's pretty nice to have

[ripe cape]

and we don't know the small ones yet they might be good too#

[craggy gyro]

Yeah personally would prefer it was on a lone branch

[safe lance]

the colossal capacity one?

[craggy gyro]

Yes but then nobody would take it and it would prove GGGs point that inventory isn't that important LUL

[safe lance]

poe 2 doest have guilds or just no guild stash? I see a lot of people asking to join or making guilds in poe2 lfg channel

[ripe cape]

Not at launch? not sure if that is accurate.
it was said in an interviw

[lament stone]

there will be guilds in poe2

poe1 guilds will not carry over to poe2

[safe lance]

ah ok, I was gonna laugh at them, turns out I was the clown.

[hexed galleon]

hey I bought the supporter pack for early access and it shows a steam and epic games key are these the same or did it give me more than one key

[lament stone]

those keys just allow you to add the game to your steam/epic games library so you can download the game

[hexed galleon]

so no more standalone?

[hearty walrus]

there is

[hexed galleon]

hmm alright thanks

[safe lance]

if you read the text below the key it says this ```Please note this key only unlocks the client in your library, it will not provide early access to your account and should not be given away.

[hot steeple]

It's almost time!!!

[ripe cape]

tomorrow

[hot steeple]

Holy link. My eyes!

[calm urchin]

chat why no download for steam

[ripe cape]

no preload for EA

[calm urchin]

😭

[hearty walrus]

can down the standalone

[hardy vigil]

!preload

[desert sedge]

PC Standalone Preload: <t:1733446800:f>
PS5 Founder's Pack+Preload: <t:1733425200:f>
Game Launch: <t:1733511600:f>
Steam Preload: Speculated to be a few Hours before game launch. Not confirmed, and may change

[hot steeple]

i have gigabit internet. lemme flex

wait. i can play 6 hours?

[lament stone]

no

preload starts in 6 hours (for pc)

[hot steeple]

😦

23 hrs 51min 😦

[swift aurora]

Howdy all, getting absolutely psyched for release tomorrow. Has there been any information on character creation/customization?

[open mist]

There is no character creator right now

[lament stone]

there never will be

[trim turret]

You can't customize characters. It's unnecessary and a lot of work.

[lament stone]

the passive tree and gear stuff is where build customization is

[trim turret]

Right, your build is your identity.

[swift aurora]

Interesting decision. Still excited of course!

[snow plover]

Will there be loss of xp similar to poe 1 if you die in a map etc?

[lament stone]

hopefully yes

[hearty walrus]

the characters also have histories and personalities. they're not blank slates

[swift aurora]

Ah right on, that's cool to know.

Would still be cool to at the very least have a M/F, Body Type 1/2 for each class. Ah well.

[trim turret]

That means twice the character models to which the thousands of items and cosmetics need to be rigged.

[swift aurora]

Yeah, development would be just too burdensome.

[tacit knot]

It feels pretty weird to try and finish a build now. I am right in saying that tomorrow they will release quite a lot more gems right? Well supports are complete already right (the list poe2db)

[trim turret]

Complete how? For what's releasing in EA day one? Maybe.

[lament stone]

at the moment poe2db is just a load of screenshots from past events

we havent seen everything, and some things we have seen might have changed

[tacit knot]

Sigh lol feels weird to build anyrhing XD

Or try

Wasted effort i think ill do it when whole list is complete

[safe lance]

they did mention it was a possibility that it could come as MTX in the future

[swift aurora]

Willing to vote for / throw money at that.

[safe lance]

I would only pay if it was something funny, like a giant headed baby type model

[lament stone]

maroider

[tacit knot]

Lol people still complaining about that goblin music

XD

How does it work is % to ignite/bleed/whatever not valuable anymore. I saw one ignite support with 100% ignite chance thats guaranteed ignite right. But if it scales of your damage, isnt it waste of a gem or am i misunderstanding

Seems like poison and bleed say the same, so any hit with chaos damage can cause poison? And physical bleed? Excuse me for mistakes

[kindred perch]

As I understand, gentlemen, that tomorrow we can buy the tabs at a discount ?

[vivid scaffold]

its possible they delay the stash tab sale for a week

[kindred perch]

So what’s your advise, what tabs we should buy first

As I understand there are different types of them

[vivid scaffold]

indeed, it might be too early to say for poe 2 which ones

[kindred perch]

Pity ) I am already prepared )

I have 1500 coins, so I should hold them for those tabs ?

[vivid scaffold]

yeah i'd wait

[limber lark]

You can just wait for your stash to be full and decide if you want to wait then

[orchid relic]

for the witch hunter ascendancy for the mercenary, the first ascendacy node says "20 passive skill points become weapon set skill points", could you tell me what this means exactly?

do weapons have a skill tree of their own?

[grizzled isle]

Part of your skill tree can be weapon-specific, so that your skill tree reshapes partially when you swap to your offhand weapon. All characters get 20 points that can be swapped, witch hunters get double that. So more of their tree can be switched to a different setup

[safe lance]

too logical, get outta here

[scenic salmon]

Crucible league leaking

[safe lance]

yea I was thinking about this last night, its gonan be actually swappable. Currently since my skill gems are on weapons, if I swap, all auras turn off and its super annoying.

[grizzled isle]

Yep, it's one of those systems that really couldn't work at all in poe1

[safe lance]

at least it exists

Man I can't get any work done today, cant stop thinking about what the game is going to be like.

The ascendancies that I was interested in AND my single brain cell could process were, witchhunter, deadeye and invoker. So going to be making 3 chars and see what gems they drop etc.

[kindred perch]

Guys, at what lvl I can take my ascendancy ?

I’m thinking about sorc

[safe lance]

its hard to predict level, but if you average it out, they said you'll be level 60 after campaign correct?

so approx 10 levels per act

and since trials is in act 2

most likely 25-30

it costs currency, so its better to be safe and feel decently strong before attempting

[lament stone]

its a quest item for the first trial

so you cant lose it even if you fail

[kindred perch]

Hm.

That is, it turns out, it makes no sense to talk about ascendence now, because until we reach 60 on the Internet will already be a million guides, with playable or not ascendence )

[hearty walrus]

there's 2 trials you can choose from to get your ascendancy. one in act 2 and 3

[safe lance]

ah not as bad as I imagined, I'll try to rush it then.

[waxen osprey]

how does playing 2 melee characters work in multiplayer? do they basically need to stay near each other to focus mobs down? would a boss focus on one of them while the other can attack freely? do they block each others space constantly?

[safe lance]

Probably too early and I am not an experienced player so take with a grain of salt, based on the boss videos it does seem like a fair strat to toggle aggro for normal "hits" but the aoes can hit both players.

[maiden heron]

Guys, about the infernalist demon form, i've seen some people saying that when you transform you dont have acess to your weapon, is it true or was it some kind of bug?

[grizzled isle]

From what i've seen, demon form (and transformations in general) cannot use weapons at the moment, but this is intended to change at some point in the EA

[ripe cape]

no weapon in demon form.

[polar sail]

I believe this is intended (was discussed for werewolf form before), BUT in relation to minions the issue was it removed spirit which is being potentially changed by GGG

[grizzled isle]

My guess would be when Druid comes in, cos he'll have the other major tranformation skills

[safe lance]

Idk how relevant but for druid they said it still uses the stats from weapons

oh you spoke about druid just as I hit enter haha

[maiden heron]

i mean, if you can keep the stats from the weapons when you're transformed that's ok

that's that what i was worried about with the demon form

i'm thinking about doing some kind of demon form spellbased build

[boreal barn]

devil trigger

[maiden heron]

not sure how to proceed tho, i've played poe 1 for years but i've never created my own build, only followed guides

[hearty walrus]

poe2 seems more forgiving of mistakes

[safe lance]

I want to hear what the more experienced players/green names are thinking. Why are you all so quiet

[ember mica]

no thoughts, only countdown clock staring

[grizzled isle]

Cos there's actually been really little info about this. The real answer is "just wait and see" but nobody wants to hear that

[safe lance]

Despite this being a new game there is still a lot of knowledge carried over from poe1, so I feel like I never have the big picture.

[safe lance]

yea I want more, I am too hyped and can't do anything productive at all. Just sitting on discord at work.

[meager galleon]

thats how i'll be tomorrow :D

[ember mica]

Realistically, the main thing that's being carried over is just fundamental game mechanics stuff. Even most of the poe 1 basics like crafting are being changed. So there's really nothing we can share haha

[meager galleon]

not even that, jonathan (and ziz) said from playtests that the game was harder for poe1 players than for new players

[ember mica]

kill monster, get loot, put loot on, kill bigger monster, simple as

[meager galleon]

cos the poe1 ppl tried to play it like poe1 and got swarmed and killed

[safe lance]

harder to adjust from combat pov but still probably easier from a build theorycrafting pov

[balmy sorrel]

will titan be strong? can I be an orc?

[ember mica]

sure, everything will be strong if you build it right

[safe lance]

no you will be human

[ember mica]

you can be an orc in spirit haha

[safe lance]

you can cosplay as an orc irl while you play it

[balmy sorrel]

will there be builds for titan where i jump around with a big af weapon and smash monsters like with good mobility and shit im new to poe

[grizzled isle]

Yes, there will

[balmy sorrel]

Nice!

[safe lance]

sounds like you want to more gorilla than orc then

[meager galleon]

its just a leap slam as main skill build

[ember mica]

Abstractly, yeah. But even so, we don't even have the full passive tree, let alone something like pob. So even experienced build creators only really have a slight edge over new players. A competent build has so many different moving parts, it's impossible to get an idea now of what to even do with half of the skills and ascendancies haha, let alone put them together in a good order

[balmy sorrel]

do you think it will be necessary to run a shield or can I just be 2h I dont like shields unless I can dual wield them

[meager galleon]

you can even dual wield 2h weapons

[safe lance]

only with the unique giantsblood right?

[meager galleon]

with the keystone, yes

[safe lance]

oh wait its a keystone? mb

[fluid seal]

how can I download the game on steam? I have the supporter bundle but do not see any download button....

[ember mica]

it's worth mentioning that poe is kind of like a total sandbox when it comes to making builds. Every class can use every skill, wear every armour, and wield every weapon in the game. It's 100% up to you how you want your character to go. You could even make a titan that only casts spells or uses a bow if you wanted

[meager galleon]

can't yet

[ember mica]

there is no predownload yet. Game releases tomorrow-ish

[meager galleon]

gotta wait

[fluid seal]

lol I read an article where they said there will be a pre-download and then launch day patch 😅

[meager galleon]

!preload

[desert sedge]

PC Standalone Preload: <t:1733446800:f> , or <t:1733446800:R>
PS5 Founder's Pack+Preload: <t:1733425200:f>, or <t:1733425200:R>
Game Launch: <t:1733511600:f> , or <t:1733511600:R>
Steam Preload: Speculated to be a few Hours before game launch. Not confirmed, and may change

[grave geyser]

Hello everyone, I'm a new player (I did try poe a few years back but only got to earlier maps, so I'm basically a noob again) and there's something I'm still not sure I understand: I think I read that weapons aren't class locked and any class can play any weapon, but I couldn't find if each class has some particular benefit to a given weapon making it virtually mandatory? Like for example I think I want to play gemlin since it seem he has good overall skills without having to go too deep to make it work, but I'm not a fan of crossbows and rather a melee playstlye, possibly some heavy hitting. Is that possible, and not only that but does it make any sense at all?

[balmy sorrel]

thank you. Yes that's what I heard too. I am completely overwelmed by that idea. Thats why I just try to have an idea of some badass class and I will try to make it possible somehow

[meager galleon]

active skills have weapon requirements, thats about it

and you might find more passives related to the weapon type on the side of the tree where their associated class is

like more crossbow stuff at the bottom by mercenary

more wands top by witch..

[outer void]

Hello

When is path of exile realeasing for free?

[grave geyser]

I see, so how impactful is that going to be? Was it common in poe to go for a skill (=weapon) on the opposite side of the tree?

[grave geyser]

At least 6 months from now, at most 1 year according to a recent interview with devs

[outer void]

😔 rip

[grizzled isle]

Path of exile 2 will be free to play at the end of the early access period, which will be in at least 6 months

[meager galleon]

i would stay within the class niche for first few chars, and experiment pnce you figure out more how the game works (its what i'm gonna do)

[outer void]

i wanted to play it

asap

[hazy seal]

Then join early access lol

[grizzled isle]

Then you need to buy a supporter pack

[meager galleon]

but i do remember some bow weilding witch and templar builds, or melee rangers in poe1

[outer void]

im broke man

[hazy seal]

:/. Life ..she isnt kind

[grizzled isle]

Then you can wait for the free access

[balmy sorrel]

I am somewhere between Titan like bigassweapons in the face or that Spellweaver or wahtever its called and go pew pew magic and stuff

[outer void]

i can't wait man 😭

[grave geyser]

In poe1 was it somewhat necessary to build a very optimized char to do endgame content (like actively farm, not struggling to get by) or even sub-optimized builds can get there? Like, if I try something I find fun and do in fact enjoy is there a chance I'll eventually get stuck since it's just bad?

[meager galleon]

as long as the build wasnt complete ass, endgame was at least partially doable

but if you wanted to do the hardest content, the build had to be fairly optimized

[balmy sorrel]

I want druid 😦

[meager galleon]

no

[tardy wedge]

do i need to play ranger just with some elemental lightning or ice spells? i want just some basic physical but didnt see it anywhere

[grave geyser]

I see, I hope the game isn't designed to be too strict in that regard, and by that I mean that it's not required to either netdeck or simply follow a sort of preset, streamlined progression path to be able to advance, I'm OK with experimenting and failing and trying again but I hope it will be eventually doable by myself

[meager galleon]

if rapidshot is anything like barrage in poe1, rapid shot will say something like "fires 10 projectiles in a sequence"
so endless munitnions makes that 11 proj

[hazy seal]

Looking for advice. i only played some poe 1. Probably got to act 3 or 4. I found it really easy like a walking sim watching things die and i didnt know much about the game so i gave up. This was a fair while back. Now im looking at poe2 and really wanna play, but ive been struggling to look at what character id find fun. Ive never been barbarian / warrior, never liked being slow. Mercenary seems to be a twin stick shooter also not for me. I like the look of the monks gameplay with the fast movement and double staff, looks fun but when i looked at ascendancy, neither appeal. They dont look interesting or like theyd add much (atleast in a way that i understand / think i want lol) does that mean i shouldnt try the monk? I think that leaves me with the chronomancer.
Very open to advice and ideas.
Im now sat here refusing to press buy till i choose a character that i will play (even though i cant yet obviously lol)

[grizzled isle]

Man, we can't like the game for you. Warrior can be fast if you build for it, mercenary doesn't have to use crossbows, and the effects of ascendancies are non-obvious, because they synergise with so many other game systems

[meager galleon]

many ppl did follow guides in poe1, not because they had to, but because making a build yourself is quite a bit of effort and ppl just want to sit and mow down a few thousand demons. but it was very viable to just plan your own builds that werent exactly meta and still perform fine. i did that for all 8 years of playing poe1

[grizzled isle]

Pick a class that you think looks cool, and see what you can make of them. You have a lot more freedom to play the way you want to than you think you do.

[grave geyser]

That's great! Can't wait for tomorrow 🫠

[hazy seal]

When you say warrior fast if build for it ..is that just nodes on the passive skill tree .or from random armour and gear i find /ingame stores or crafting stuff or.....
I think we new players hear build guide a lot but dont hear what it actually is lol

[swift fractal]

will there be split loot with group party?

[trim turret]

All of those things. Passives, attack speed on weapons, the skills themselves.

[hazy seal]

So i imagine a huge amount of luck to get things with stats you want to go for a specific style like that? Or...?

[polar sail]

1. Boot speed modifiers to make your passive movement faster
2. Other speed bonuses from tree
3. Mobility skills like Dash or Flamedash are gone from POE2, but if you have a shield you can shield charge which appears to still be a fast charge to the next pack of enemies

[trim turret]

I don't know. The game hasn't launched yet. You can literally search for attack speed on the passive tree and go after those nodes if you want.

[grizzled isle]

Not really, no. Just the cumulative effect of choices you make along the way. You're just as likely to find a decent weapon with high attack speed as you are a decent weapon with low attack speed. And someone who's trying to build for big single hits would be just as disappointed finding the good fast weapon. It's about choices, not luck

[hardy vigil]

I would add that 1-h mace (with the shield) might make Leap Slam significantly faster too.

[waxen mauve]

when and where do i get the pre download

[grizzled isle]

!preload

[desert sedge]

PC Standalone Preload: <t:1733446800:f> , or <t:1733446800:R> , download will be at https://pathofexile2.com/download. You can use this even if you bought on Steam
PS5 Founder's Pack+Preload: <t:1733425200:f>, or <t:1733425200:R>
Game Launch: <t:1733511600:f> , or <t:1733511600:R>
Steam Preload: Speculated to be a few Hours before game launch based on past PoE 1 patches. Not confirmed: #2┃general message

[waxen mauve]

rip right when i start work. oh well ty

[grizzled isle]

Oh no, what a shame you've become sick! Better call in and take the day to "recover"

[livid cypress]

The key will be released when early access is on?

[hearty walrus]

you can already get keys

[livid cypress]

Wait. I only got the receipt.

[grizzled isle]

The first key you get is automatically redeemed to give your account access. What platform did you buy through?

[fading sparrow]

Hello, new player here, I have read somewhere that bleed damage does not bypass energy shield.
Do monsters have energy shield? And if so, if you are a pure bleed build how do you damage / kill them?
are there any skills to remove energy shield or turn it off from them?

[hearty walrus]

that doesn't mean bleed doesn't damage energy shield

[grizzled isle]

It does, bleed can only be applied by a hit that damages life

[hearty walrus]

oh, wrong game channel

[grizzled isle]

You need to use a separate skill to remove shields, then apply bleed

[livid cypress]

official website. No need to enter key?

[grizzled isle]

It's so hard to swap game-brains

[grizzled isle]

Correct. You can look at your profile on the website, there's a page for early access that should say you're in

And give you the steam and/or epic keys if you want to play via one of those

[fading sparrow]

Thanks @grizzled isle do you know if armour now applies to bleed damage, from poe1 it seems that it does not apply to dot

[grizzled isle]

I don't know the details of the armour/physical damage reduction calculations in poe2. I suspect armour is still just protecting you from hits though, not dots.

[grave cloak]

increased ele dmg is just increased (fire, lightning ,cold) dmg?

[ripe cape]

Correct

[grave cloak]

👍🏻

[desert sedge]

PC Standalone Preload: <t:1733446800:f> , or <t:1733446800:R> , download will be at https://pathofexile2.com/download. You can use this even if you bought on Steam
PS5 Founder's Pack+Preload: <t:1733425200:f>, or <t:1733425200:R>
Game Launch: <t:1733511600:f> , or <t:1733511600:R>
Steam Preload: Speculated to be a few Hours before game launch based on past PoE 1 patches. Not confirmed: #2┃general message

[lyric bay]

Is the peoload up yet,?

[grizzled isle]

Read one post above you, buddy

[dry apex]

How do I know when an enemy should be armor broken? Like is there an icon next to the HP bar like the ele res/exposed?

[mighty wyvern]

Are grenades considered projectile damage?

[timid juniper]

Does the first blood pack starter pack apply for POE2 as well? i guess including early access

[grave cloak]

no

[grizzled isle]

They should be dealing area damage, unless poe2 is doing some very different keywording

[timid juniper]

does that mean that any microtransations, like extra stash etc wont apply?

so basically buy nothing?

[mighty wyvern]

So are they or not?

[grizzled isle]

I don't think so

[grave cloak]

oh no I meant it doesnt contain a key

[mighty wyvern]

ok ty

[grave cloak]

but u still have the stash tabs, etc.

should all transfer over

[timid juniper]

ahhhh no i meant maybe it doesnt apply to early access of poe 2 - not for key.

good to know it can be used accross thanks

[grave cloak]

MTX and stash tabs (which have usage in PoE 2) carry over

in EA not all MTX will be available tho

[timid juniper]

Thanks! and as a new player besides stash, anything you think is a must to purchase?

[grave cloak]

No, stash tabs are the only must imo

Tho I would always wait for sales

Prizes are kinda crazy

[timid juniper]

ah nice, thanks

[grave cloak]

even while discounted

[timid juniper]

is sales a frequent event?

[next igloo]

yeah

[grizzled isle]

Every three weeks

[grave cloak]

stash tab sale should be this weekend, actually

[timid juniper]

nice. thanks guys

[grave cloak]

On discount, you should be able to buy currency, map and quad tab for 300 coins

[grizzled isle]

They might push it back a week though, usually stash tab sales are moved to the weekend after a launch

Not confirmed though

[timid juniper]

i heard the blood starter pack was a good one to start with as its pretty cheap

[hearty walrus]

if you wanna join the early access, you'll need a key

[grave cloak]

yeah maybe, will have too see. It would kinda make more sense to do it on launch tho

[timid juniper]

I have a key all good 🙂

[grizzled isle]

Nah, weekend after means you get everyone logging in two weekends in a row

[grave cloak]

oh I see, smart

[grizzled isle]

Plus people will have a better idea of what tabs they actually need/want after a week of play

[grave cloak]

true

[timid juniper]

Have a good evening, thanks for the help

[next zinc]

yo why doesnt poe show in other connections on twitch

i cant link it to get rewards for poe2

[late dagger]

How many hours till release

Its like 1pm cst right

[marsh kayak]

@late daggerthere is massive timer on their website

[tender obsidian]

planning on getting into this game tomorrow after trying and giving up on poe because it was just too late in the cycle of the game. haven't had time to research much - are there any suggestions on a starting class to learn the game

[grizzled isle]

At this point, every available class is a valid starting point. We're all going to be learning the game together, so just pick something you like the look/concept of

[sonic moss]

Is it better to identify drops before selling them when going through the campaign? If so, what are you functionality losing by doing that?

[late dagger]

I was still groggy i found it

[safe lance]

you can probably get an idea if you want to identify or not based on whether you'll use it, what item level it is etc.

btw I could be wrong but there was a free identify npc in town right?

could save you scrolls if the are for soem reason rarer in poe2. I dont expect to ever run out of them.

[sonic moss]

free? what's the point of that? seems like a mandatory tedium if so

[safe lance]

yea I dont know either, I could be misremembering or misheard.

tbh I dont get the identifying process. It also feels like tedium

[undone sleet]

It prevents you from using a tool to scan items on the ground

You have to physically pick up items to see if they suck

[safe lance]

ah ok

[dry apex]

is Broken armor a debuff that reduces their defence or a primer that can be procked? Basically is it worth it to break armor and consume it vs break armor and dealing damage with that

[undone sleet]

GGG is a big fan of forcing you to actually interact with items. Pick them up, read them, manipulate them, etc.

[safe lance]

was also thinking if a coding thing where the mods generated at identify time on client side vs pre generated

We still end up filtering by bases, so I guess its human tendency to try and do that anyway.

[undone sleet]

My understanding is that they use a system which assigns a number to a drop

That number never changes, but that determines what the identified product is

[safe lance]

And that number corresponds to a preset?

[undone sleet]

Essentially

[safe lance]

on like a unique number?

or a category of numbers?

[undone sleet]

We don't know

But the game can turn that into an identified item (and so can the trade site as we have found out)

[safe lance]

oh interesting, but yea probably irrelevant info.

[undone sleet]

We also know that if you ID an item, and get a rollback, the item will ID the same.

So you can't cheat the system

[safe lance]

Do you know if I was right about the free identify npc in town? I heard it somewhere but I cant find it again.

[undone sleet]

I don't recall, but even if it existed I would still use scrolls if I'm not broke

[grave cloak]

What ele u think would be best for blood mage?

[undone sleet]

I might go cold since cold spells have naturally high crit

[safe lance]

yea I dont really expect it either, my best guess is it is for totally new players to genre in case they think scrolls are not important and dont pick them up.

[undone sleet]

That would allow you to skip the 15% base crit node entirely

[grave cloak]

Wait actually does base crit matter if going the 15% ascendency node?

[undone sleet]

It does because then you don't need it

[grave cloak]

Cold seems nice since u can freeze bosses

[undone sleet]

There's better nodes

They have progenesis as a node

Generic spell leech

[safe lance]

Is "hit" a new keyword btw or did it exist in poe1?

[undone sleet]

It's used constantly in poe 1

[safe lance]

I see a lot of careful wording saying "hits"

[grave cloak]

Yeah also pretty cool

[undone sleet]

So if you can use a spell that doesn't need the spell crit node, you get a stronger node for minimal cost

[grizzled isle]

Basically, damage is applied as either a hit or a DoT effect

[undone sleet]

I would personally give up 3% base crit for progenesis or generic spell leech

Especially since recovery seems to be shit in poe 2

[safe lance]

kk I probably overlooked a lot of text in poe1

[grave cloak]

Alright, thx. Will prob also go highest crit rate spell then

If its fun ofc

[undone sleet]

From what I've seen, fire/chaos have the lowest, lightning is in the middle, cold is medium high, and phys is the highest

[safe lance]

the gotcha ones were "attacks" deal X damage and then I realize I am doing spells for example

[undone sleet]

Cold is like 12%, phys is 15%

[grave cloak]

Phys

[undone sleet]

Gotta break armour for phys tho

[safe lance]

wait I remember seeing a % recovery node in some video

maybe notable maybe keystone

[grave cloak]

I mean we have a phys ascendency node

[safe lance]

armor break is new right? I havent played any physical damage builds in poe1

[undone sleet]

The concept is new, yeah

We have had ways to ignore PDR but not widespread

[undone sleet]

You mean the 10% phys as extra? Meh, the second half is what you'd care about

[grave cloak]

Ye

[undone sleet]

Shaper of bleed is kinda massive

10% phys as extra whatever okay

[safe lance]

I feel they could've made some of these simpler idk. The concentration felt like a poise break thing in souls games.

[undone sleet]

Plus one would assume that the node implies spell bleed

Which is not possible in poe 1

[undone sleet]

We don't do simple here

[grave cloak]

Ye spells can inflict bleed now

[safe lance]

It would make sense if concentration existed outside of the ascendancy and there were relevant skills/text

[grave cloak]

I heard

[safe lance]

but I dont see anything so far, gotta way until tomorow I guess

[undone sleet]

I don't know if that's been officially mentioned but I'm just assuming it is correct

[undone sleet]

I think they're just naming it since it's referenced in another node

Otherwise they'd just say "damage inflicted lowers enemy CDR" and not call it anything

[tropic fable]

can't decide on what to try first, what are you guys going to try?

[void bramble]

Meth.

[grave cloak]

Bloody magy

[safe lance]

fair enough

[undone sleet]

I don't think it's intended to be some grand mechanic that's supported evergreen

Though because I said that, we'll surely get a unique with concentration on it

[brave dagger]

I feel like this is stupid and has already been asked before. But as a long time Diablo player who likes classes like Barbarian and Sorcerers, what’s a recommended class to start with??

[safe lance]

I know what I am NOT gonna try. I am not super into minions, sorc (just from an immersion pov) and mildly anti-warrior.

[undone sleet]

I'm sure that sorceress and warrior will do you fine. Just keep in mind that nothing is class-locked

[safe lance]

The simple answer is sorc or warrior but it is obv more detailed than that.

[undone sleet]

There's nothing stopping you from being a hammer slamming witch

Or a spellcasting mercenary

[safe lance]

There are a lot of skills similar to D4 btw. So choose based on skill instead. That could be a better approach.

[brave dagger]

Necromancing is my favorite type of class/skill anyways.

Anyway to have an army fight for me is just chefs kiss.

[undone sleet]

Try a gemling legionnaire or an infernalist then

[safe lance]

ok so it looks like it might be witch or end up beign gemling legionnaire

[undone sleet]

Both look like interesting ways to play a summoner

[safe lance]

gemling legionnaire for some reason doesnt sound very beginner friendly or league starter friendly. I dont have any meaningful reasoning why

[outer sparrow]

How's monk looking? Seems like it'll be underplayed

[grizzled isle]

It's a bit harder to understand the impact, since it's kind of on the technical side of how a build comes together.

[undone sleet]

Monk has probably the strongest ascendancy node in the game but given we have 0 numbers I'd hesitate to call anything underplayed

[grizzled isle]

So yeah, i agree it's less beginner friendly

[outer sparrow]

oh really? Chayula did look cool

[safe lance]

no

invoker

I am most likely going to be playing that as it sounds simple and strong

[undone sleet]

I'm sure Chayula is good as well, I just meant this node specifically

[charred drum]

download up

[safe lance]

and its going to have a shit ton of spirit for reservation as well

it looks like a good thing for a beginner

I want to start with something simple and direct and so far I've narrowed in on invoker, deadeye and witchhunter. I havent even looked at witch, sorc or warrior so they could have better ones idk.

[craggy gyro]

HEL,P I've been all blood mage blood mage but now I'm like ooh Titan

[mellow furnace]

HELP i cant beat second boss, hes too hard

[void bramble]

Woops. All minions.

[fiery furnace]

Any good tips for someone going into POE for the first time?

[craggy gyro]

DON'T DIE XD

[grizzled isle]

Wording is specific and important. Read, don't assume.

[fiery furnace]

Check

It’s also one of my first games in the genre🫣

[grizzled isle]

Kill monsters, get loot, use loot to kill more monsters. It's simple as, you'll be fine 🙂

[fiery furnace]

Thankssss gives me a bit of hope haha

Was thinking of rolling a ranger or a mercenary

Looks good to me

[grizzled isle]

Keep in mind that your class doesn't lock you in to certain skills/weapons. You could use a mace or cast spells with a ranger, if you wanted to. (Not that either of those look like a great idea for starting out, but you never know)

[fiery furnace]

Good one to know that!

[maiden heron]

Guys, how long until we're able to pre-download poe2 on PC?

[umbral pulsar]

!preload

[desert sedge]

PC Standalone & Epic Games Preload: <t:1733446800:f> , or <t:1733446800:R> , download will be at https://pathofexile2.com/download. You can use this even if you bought on Steam
PS5 Founder's Pack+Preload: <t:1733425200:f>, or <t:1733425200:R>
Game Launch: <t:1733511600:f> , or <t:1733511600:R>
Steam Preload: Speculated to be a few Hours before game launch based on past PoE 1 patches. Not confirmed: #2┃general message

[uneven trout]

Q - will guild tabs trasfer over later on or are NEVER getting transfered from poe 1?

is it just an EA thing?

[hearty walrus]

never afaik

[uneven trout]

mega sucks but thanks for confirming i was just arguing that with guildmates so good to confirm

[grave cloak]

Queue per platform or all in one?

[hearty walrus]

since it's crossplay, that's a good question

[grave cloak]

Probably one ig

[hardy ice]

Do we need to worry about trying to reserve our desired names or is there no cap on duplicate names?

[lament stone]

character names have to be unique

[grave cloak]

Char name is unique

Just add a prefix

[hardy ice]

K ty

[craggy gyro]

I hope everyone gets a lot of beauty rest tonight. Sleep tight my kings

[flat badge]

Totally new player here, only had a dozen or so hours in the first game, trying to decide do I watch some build videos or go into it completely unspoiled

[lost kayak]

It's a new game
Everyone is pretty much going in blind
Nobody knows what exactly is good or what not.
Play what you think you might find fun

[sick whale]

anyone know when we can start pre download ?

[grizzled isle]

As soon as the servers stop exploding

Should be pretty soon

[grave cloak]

Steam left the chat

[grizzled isle]

Steam also left the servers (because they exploded)

[grave cloak]

Thats kinda nice and bad

[sick whale]

I just refresh page and 505 xD

😆

[blazing moth]

wonder if there's gonna be a toxic rain ballista pathfinder type build

website is up

[hearty walrus]

ziz said he effectively made toxic rain

[blazing moth]

probably gonna be my starter build since im somewhat familiar with that one....even if it plays differently in 2....just love those ballistas doing the work for me

[gilded quartz]

im doing the download on epic without problems

[uneven trout]

Q - How do i access standalone client? i thought id play on epic but epic download speed has been terrible

[sick whale]

I cant donwload it on Steam or official page.

[uneven trout]

well def not on steam

it wont be there until tomorrow

standalone or epic are only download options until tomorrow

[brave pagoda]

where can i find standalone?

their website kinda doomed

[split cargo]

poe website

its doomed right now

[brave pagoda]

but any idea where to find it?

i have it now somehow

[sick whale]

PoE website is death. and i dont think will be undoom anytime soon

[split cargo]

pathofexile2.com/download

[sudden prawn]

anyone knows where we gonna go to merge the accounts ? I want to merge my PSN and Steam for PoE 2

[quaint surge]

bought poe2 on steam for ea, will i get emailed a key or will it be avaliable on steam?

[sudden prawn]

its added already on steam

u should be able to see it in your librabry as addon

[split cargo]

log into your account

but the website is down

[brave pagoda]

rip

[quaint surge]

so i gotta link steam account to poe acc, or will there be an ea download avalialbe through steam ? on steam i see my key dlc but no ea download, normally it anther "game"

[brave pagoda]

steam wont have early access download atm after 16 hours

but you can download the client for poe2 now from their website(its down so not possible atm) or epic

[wind valley]

steam predownload not working?

[brave pagoda]

no predownload on steam

[stray sequoia]

and still play while purchasing on Steam...?

[scenic salmon]

Cant enter the PoE page cause everyone i loggin in i got my memes ready for launch

[safe lance]

This isn’t looking good for tomorrow lol. How many people are even gonna play this game

[brave pagoda]

yes just log in with your steam acc

[safe lance]

I estimate 62% of new players to rage quit and seeing how much reading it takes in this game

[brave pagoda]

man i just hope in 2 hours when i come back, i can at least download the client

my internet been dogwater these past few days

[empty nebula]

Where exactly would I be able to get the client?

[safe lance]

It’s not like you’re gonna be able to play tomorrow anyway

*theres gonna be a massive queue

[scenic salmon]

Im taking bets can we play tomorrow or not

Im solid in the No team

[brave pagoda]

absolutely no idea but i guess from poe2 website or poe -> early access keys location

[empty nebula]

Yeah, I don't have a poe account, and I don't seem to be able to link them lol

Clicking on the access now button only brings me to buy the packs

[safe lance]

!preload

[desert sedge]

PC Standalone & Epic Games Preload: <t:1733446800:f> , or <t:1733446800:R> , download will be at https://pathofexile2.com/download. You can use this even if you bought on Steam
PS5 Founder's Pack+Preload: <t:1733425200:f>, or <t:1733425200:R>
Game Launch: <t:1733511600:f> , or <t:1733511600:R>
Steam Preload: Speculated to be a few Hours before game launch based on past PoE 1 patches. Not confirmed: #2┃general message

[brave pagoda]

i bought poe2 from steam, you can link steam with poe2

[empty nebula]

Yeah, I did the same

[safe lance]

Again, this game’s about reading so you guys are gonna have to start from the bot message

[empty nebula]

Yeah, well, I was hoping for a different page to appear

[safe lance]

For download?

[empty nebula]

Indeed

[safe lance]

It is a different page but looks like players have hugged it to death

[low tiger]

THIS IS JUST START -____-

[empty nebula]

It's expected

[safe lance]

Yea and that’s the context for my earlier conversation btw

[brave pagoda]

on release servers will go boom

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-sweat-monkas-monka-eyes-gif-10994127

[safe lance]

We’re probably not gonna play tomorrow

[fast elm]

Yup xD

[low tiger]

no, they simply won't exist

[empty nebula]

Ah, damn, got into the download but no download to be found lol

[fast elm]

Right now the servers are on fire .... tomorrow they will just blow up 🙂

[brave pagoda]

only tomorrow is a bold statement

[low tiger]

ahhahahhahah

nice scum

[brave pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/none-gif-27639232

[empty nebula]

Welp, only another 15 hours to steam I suppose

[safe lance]

Maybe their estimate of a million players was too low

[low tiger]

Give me a guide on how to download -_____-

[safe lance]

I’ll bet one scroll of wisdom that I’ll be able to actually play 1 step in act 1

[empty nebula]

No download for another few hours I'd assume

[thorny kettle]

preload is up on steam!

[safe lance]

Noice

Runnn

[empty nebula]

eyy

[craggy gyro]

ITS HAPPENING

[low tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/woohoo-celebrate-gif-3719791047300891146

[silver plaza]

im so exited to play my spreadsheet simulator! pogg

fr tho i hope its not too hard cuz i only have a couple hundred hours on poe1

[uneven bane]

theres a fire channel spell in the teaser video, does it come from sorceress or witch?

[hearty walrus]

neineither

[empty nebula]

prob sorc

[uneven bane]

i got confused since theres a fire typ ascendancy in witch too

[empty nebula]

doesnt it say in the teaser?

Is there?

[hearty walrus]

skills aren't class locked

[empty nebula]

I thought it was jsut ademon

[scenic salmon]

It's the demon skill show case

Yes yes yes

[low tiger]

who is the best char for noob????

[empty nebula]

who knows

[low tiger]

merc or witch?

[empty nebula]

every character

[scenic salmon]

Big melee me hit hard me big weapon
I'll bet

[empty nebula]

Monk looks fun for me tho

Prolly gonna go monk, ranger, sorc to try em out

[quaint surge]

looks like i gotta restart steam

[low tiger]

In honor of preload, I'm going to the hairdresser

[normal jolt]

hmm preload isnt showing up -.-

[empty nebula]

Restart steam

like, task manager it

[broken raptor]

Do i get early access only if i purchase the game?

[empty nebula]

Yer

[hearty walrus]

full release will be free

[quaint surge]

your purchase gives u game currency for the same value, which u can hold onto till the things u want in game are on sale

for super cheap

[broken raptor]

cool

[broken raptor]

ty

[empty nebula]

Yeah, they said the web one will take longer

but steam and everything else is up

[sick whale]

guess i will do it when steam put it on... no hassle there xD

[empty nebula]

Just need to restart steam/task manager it, to get the preload button

[lethal holly]

hello there

[empty nebula]

howdy

[autumn fable]

if I have an email that i used to play poe on the standalone client, if i switch to steam, can i still use same account?

[empty nebula]

Thats what everyone seems to be saying

[empty nebula]

Client should be up now

[lethal holly]

how are you on this fine night

[empty nebula]

Quite alright, yourself?

[outer sparrow]

Have you played other arpgs?

[scenic salmon]

I think if you go to your profile in the PoE page you can link it giving the state of the servers it'll be optimal to open PoE 1 to link accounts maybe?

[lethal holly]

mentally drained

[lethal holly]

diabl 4 but poe1 after, still a newb. hopefully wasd is better than mouse click since i get hand cramps

[dense pulsar]

do spells (spark, arc, etc.) count as "hits"?

[spare ruin]

does the standalone client dont ask first which storage i want to download it in

[empty nebula]

Yeah, I really hated the mouse movement

[outer sparrow]

Could try a controller

[empty nebula]

Wasd 10/10

[lethal holly]

one day, I aim to get use to being on keyboard

[outer sparrow]

Mouse movement is pretty core to arpg imo

[empty nebula]

Yeah, I just detest it

I grew up on wasd so I prefer it

[sacred agate]

Getting this constantly. Anyone know a fix?

[lethal holly]

yeah although movement isn't that great. didn't know I have to constantly move back and forth to dodge around

[grizzled isle]

the ones you listed do. All damage is either a hit or a Damage over Time effect, and that's not restricted to being spell or attack damage

[dense pulsar]

ok thanks

[spare ruin]

need answer please

[outer sparrow]

How else do you dodge? Lol

[main oar]

This question is gonna sound dumb, but I purchased the Early Access via the official homepage. Does this mean I can only use the client, not Steam, since Steam is asking me to pay 30 bucks too?

[grizzled isle]

your profile on the poe website will have a steam key for you to claim, to add it to your library there

[main oar]

ah nice, thank you

[scenic salmon]

Go to account and right row has a link Path of exile early access

[hollow steppe]

pc client is on!

[sacred agate]

I keep getting this

Anyone know a fix?

[empty nebula]

Do you have enough space?

I get that when I dont have enough space for download

[sacred agate]

Yes

[lethal holly]

well yeah I mean moving close to hit and to go around the character to avoid being hit is what I am unused to. then i spam whatever.

[empty nebula]

Do you have enough in C drive?

(if you're downloading in another)

[sacred agate]

Yes

[empty nebula]

oh

[sacred agate]

I have 500 gb

free

[empty nebula]

Then idk

[hollow steppe]

Got the same as well 4gb ssd

[spare ruin]

its the client problem

[main oar]

Sorry, where is it, I cant find it

[whole silo]

just use steam ez

[sacred agate]

Thanks for your useless advice.

[whole silo]

u are welcome 🌚

[empty nebula]

Look for an active chat mod, maybe they can help

I'd say don't ping them unless you see them actively typing

[sacred agate]

Mods here are not employees of GGG

[empty nebula]

Still, just courtesy

[sacred agate]

Its a community Discord

They have nothing to do with the game.

[main oar]

Can someone guide my blind ass to where I find the steam key please 😄
I purchased the Early Access

[empty nebula]

I'm sure they can ask someone who is

[sacred agate]

Not sure how they will help with server / client side issues

[empty nebula]

Just restart steam

or task manager it

and it should be there

[spare ruin]

everyone getting the same problem for the client issue

[main oar]

I meant this, I can't find it 😄

[dense dove]

Click on the top left name

[empty nebula]

Oh

[dense dove]

And then to the right there is "Path of Exile 2 Early Access"

[scenic salmon]

There should be an email explaining it too

[sick whale]

you go into your poe accoutn and press on the right side "early access something something". there will be a botton that said "claim key"

[lethal holly]

quick question in which act do you get your ascendancy?

[scenic salmon]

In Poe 1 act 3 that's like 20% into the campaign

[open mist]

acts 2, 3, and in the future 4 have ascendancy trials

[lethal holly]

huh oh ok

[open mist]

Are you asking for poe1 or poe2?

[lethal holly]

I think at best i made it to act 3 in poe1

[lethal holly]

can be both

mostly for poe1

[graceful kestrel]

More than 200GB available and getting the same error messages :(

[lethal holly]

is it the same for poe2?

hopefully as a newb, mercenary is good to play

[wild hedge]

Are there any spells that hit and count as attacks?

[maiden heron]

Guys, do we know if we'll have spell leech or spell mana leech on the gear? since there's none in the tree

[turbid shoal]

I'm really confused. I got the free key, then I paid $100 supporter pack for the second key and cosmetics, assuming i'd get a second key. But when I go to the Early Access section now i just see 3 keys in total:

Steam Client Key
Epic Client Key
Early Access Key

I got the steam client loaded, but do i also need to use the early access key tomorrow? Which one do i give my buddy?

[safe lance]

Someone can confirm but the early access key

[limber gyro]

is there controller support for the alpha sorry if its been asked

[safe lance]

if you read the top of the page, it should your account has access.

[safe lance]

There is extreme controller support.

[limber gyro]

amazing so excited!!

[safe lance]

Still have to log out if you want to switch between kbm and controller though. Seamless might come some point in the future.

[split raft]

Did you buy it from the Steam client?

[turbid shoal]

No but I think I figured it out

So I can give my friend the one called "Early Access Key" which he can go redeem

[split raft]

Better be sure you can play it yourself

Where did you buy the supporter pack then

[dry prawn]

You can play it rn?????