2┃new-player-in-campaign-help

[vast mesa]

Should I do the optional quests?

I think they are event quests

[cerulean bloom]

If you want to, doing the tidal island one gets you a flask reward

[vast mesa]

What does a flask do?

[cerulean bloom]

Well, a health flask restores health, a mana flask restores mana

Quicksilver flask gives you extra movement speed

They do a bunch of stuff

[vast mesa]

Is it worth investing my time as a new player?

getting the flask

[cerulean bloom]

Yes

It's really easy

You kill one guy, you get the medicinal chest thing, and you just give it to Nessa

You don't have to but, it's pretty easy to do so

It won't take you ages

[vast mesa]

ohh sorry!

[hearty walrus]

Quick note that this is the poe2 help channel

[cerulean bloom]

Is there a channel for general questions and stuff? Cause I have one that hasn't been answered

[hearty walrus]

not really. probably asking in one of the poe help channels would get more views

[cerulean bloom]

Which one? Cause most of them are either about guides or crafting advice or builds and stuff

[hearty walrus]

#1┃after-acts-help or #1┃endgame-help i guess

[half ingot]

So for the people that got the 300 coins with the early acces key, what do you guys recommend spending it on? Assume a fresh account

[chrome tiger]

anyone help me out with a poe2 key 😉

[hearty walrus]

stash tabs. we don't know exactly what'll be useful, but a premium and currency tab are a safe purchase

and maybe a map tab

there'll be a stash sale the weekend of the ea launch

[half ingot]

You probably have some time before you need those extra tabs right? So you could just see what is good at that moment?

[half ingot]

That's great

[hearty walrus]

in poe1, you can get through the campaign just fine on the starting tabs

[half ingot]

Okay, so no guarentees but it is a nice indication

[solar vigil]

Was this confirmed 🤔

[hearty walrus]

I think it's estimated

I don't remember if it was confirmed or not

[oblique kindle]

It's not

[hearty walrus]

@long cape character 1 and 4 in that screenshot are sorceress and witch

[tacit knot]

Yea just found it confusing as it starts dame place as duelist which i seriously view as melee sorry serenity lol

[long cape]

o ye

weird

supposed 1 of them is templar or druid

but they havent finished yet

[hearty walrus]

possibly

i'd like it better if they were different characters

[tacit knot]

Do you think with the mercenary ascendancy with 3 extra skill slots ud get into trouble w a controller?

[hearty walrus]

could add more reservation skills

or meta gems

[tacit knot]

What does this do

I dont think ive seen that term

[stark lynx]

Your guess is as good as ours

No wait, its the hot swappable passive points

That you can spend on specific passive clusters

[hearty walrus]

you can have 2 slightly different trees for each weapon set

[hoary citrus]

is there a skill or build that hits a lot during a very short time? even if it requires me to stay still or something?

[tacit knot]

Does dodge roll evade spells?

So only not aoe effects, or only aoe effects by bosses?

If i may be as curious, how does this make sense? Arent you basically trading full avoidance of damage for 30% reduce

I know i am probably wrong but I don't see what is means exactly

[hardy vigil]

The monster skills are not categorized as spells or attacks anymore. What matters is that dodge works against projectiles and strikes, but not against aoe.

[solar vigil]

This is what Viper said:

“

• melee strikes and projectiles will miss you for the first ~half of the dodge roll animation, so it has partial iframes
• while the overall speed is the same as running, it starts fast and slows down, so provides a burst of speed to get out of the way of things”

[hardy vigil]

When I say works it means the iframes at start of dodge work against it. Moving away can help against aoe but it's not overall faster than running. It's just faster at start and slower at end.

[tacit knot]

So everything is damage from now on? Or is there still aoe

From monsters

I mean dot sorry

I may be saying something dumb i am trying though lol 🙂 for as far as my knowledge allows

[hardy vigil]

There can be ground effects or ailments from monsters. Can't dodge those, except maybe the hit that tries to apply ailments.

[stuck thistle]

December 6 is way too fucking long from now, I’m getting a little impatient (I think that Nov. 21 announcement had us edging til Dec. 6, wtf)

[tacit knot]

Do spells fall under projectiles in poe 2?

Sorry, or does dodge roll not avoid spells at all

In the first half

[hardy vigil]

Your spells may have projectiles or not, depending on spell. But enemy projectiles are not "spells" or "attacks" because that doesn't matter for your defenses. They're just projectiles.

[stuck thistle]

I think it’s supposed to act as a dodge to hoth

AoE or projectile the closer you dodge roll to it, it might still hit, especially aoe projectile

I remember seeing that flaming enemy, Sun boss, when the ranger or character dodged it, she still hits one of the bullet hell while dodging

Or dodge rolling from it

[tacit knot]

Ah yes thanks guys

[uneven trout]

what options exist to roll magic items at the moment?

orb of aug exists and does what it does today

but theres no orb of alt

because it seems a generic league start crafting process seems something like perfect magic item -> Essence -> omen + exalt -> if fail omen + annul

[hardy vigil]

Sounds like you know the known options. https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Currency

[tacit knot]

So this means, u do get hit first, but after that your basically immune for 1s. Or instant 1s immune?

[hardy vigil]

Someone will have to try it in the game.

[tacit knot]

I am asking this because of the word after

[tacit knot]

Does anyone know of the changes to poison?

I remember poison being a little slower as you had to build up stacks

Has anything changed?

[hardy vigil]

Default is max 1 poison stack now. See wiki. Pathfinder and passive tree can get you +1 each I think.

[grave cloak]

For me it sounds pretty clear: You do not take any dmg from ground effects for one second after stepping on it. After one second you will BURN.

Basically you have a one second window to realize that u are standing on bad ground

And I assume this applies to each ground effect instance

[spiral knot]

i guess massive server problems on day one. Can we play solo offline ?

[ember mica]

No offline play

[grave cloak]

We suffer together

[spiral knot]

Thanks, sad but thanks

[spiral knot]

Sadly we do. Good thing: Teachers dont work on weekends^^

What is your guess for day two?

[grave cloak]

Oh u assume we will only have server issues on Friday?

[ember mica]

If it helps at all. While this is an entirely new frontier, GGG is usually really good about server stuff. There are usually a couple of hiccups upon a new league launch, but it's usually resolved fairly quickly.

Again, we're hitting entirely new records with poe 2, so I expect more issues than a popular league launch. But it's at least a bit comforting to know GGG is usually on top of their server stuff.

[spiral knot]

I guess (hope) it is unplayable on day one and laggy servers on day two but we can play

[ember mica]

Not to mention sales have been exploding since day 1. So they're probably taking as many precautionary measures as possible

[spiral knot]

Yeah i hope they overstack servercpacity for the first week and "downstack" after it

[ember mica]

I might be overly optimistic, but I think, while we'll definitely have some server issues; I think people are overblowing it a bit.

[spiral knot]

If a company can deliver it would be GGG. But Serverproblems are so often...

[ember mica]

Between them being keenly aware, better than anyone's speculation, of how well their game is selling and how many people to expect to play. Them not wanting their game to look bad on day 1. Them generally being good about server stability. I think we're gonna be fine in the grand scheme of things

[spiral knot]

knock on wood. I truly hope so.

i can watch only so many DMTV Videos to feed my hype^^

[tacit knot]

Is there a list somewhere of thus far revealed skills of poe 2

[ember mica]

poe2db.tw

But a good amount of them may be out of date. It's not datamined, but rather just things taken from basically every video/screenshot shown over the past few years.

[hardy vigil]

I looked through havoc video today and found the Volley support probably won't be there anymore. I was looking forward to that. Plans changed.

[tacit knot]

Thanks. Are these class bound skills in this poe?

[ember mica]

No, the only skills that are class bound are any skills you might get from an ascendancy

[tacit knot]

Like this is specifies mercenary

[ember mica]

No it's not. It's just categorized there because crossbow stuff is thematically tied to merc

any class can use any skill, any weapon, any armour, etc

[tacit knot]

Ah lol

[ember mica]

Just need the attributes for it

[night pumice]

With the new passive tree just make a marauder INT stacker ez

i dont think getting attributes gonna be any problem in poe2

[tacit knot]

Attack Damage: 28% how does this work. 28% of weapon?

Weapon damage

[hardy vigil]

Yes, weapon skills are usually based on the weapon's damage. You need to be a little careful when reading skills that do multiple hits and stuff. The ingame tooltips may have multiple tabs but the site will only show the first one - in fact often we've only ever seen the first one in recordings.

[grave cloak]

Spark automatically bounces off walls right?

[tacit knot]

You mean as in for example multiple hits may do different percentages

We only see the first?

Im sorry if im wrong im pretty new

[grave cloak]

No, I mean lets say I fire spark and it hits a wall. Does it bounce off of this wall or are those projectiles gone?

Cause when looking at footage it looks like this, but the gem doesnt say anything like this

Well it does say it expires until it hits an enemys or is travelling for 2s. So maybe walls wont cause the projectile to expire?

[lime pasture]

Hi new to PoE2 and I got a question. Where in this discord is there a list of awesome tools websites I should download and bookmark?

[ember mica]

So I dont think there's a channel or command for that as far as I know. But for poe 1 specifically some of the highlights are:

• Path of Building (community fork) - a community made tool that is basically a full character planner/simulator.
• poe.ninja - a website that aggregates general pricing of all non-gear items in the game, as well as a giant list of players current builds
• craft of exile - a crafting helper/simulator website to help with crafting projects or to see what mods can roll on items
• wealthy exile - a website for people who are farming specific mechanics to see what kind of currency flow they're getting, as well as checking stashes to see their current "wealth"
• maxroll.gg - a more new-player focused site to get full build guides that are more hand-holdy than other guides
• Awakened PoE Trade - a 3rd party tool that overlays a thing in your game that shows you what things might be valued at.
• poe lurker - a tool that helps expedite player-to-player trades
• filterblade.xyz - the site for the gold standard of loot filters. Can also be accessed through the item filters page on the poe website

PLEASE NOTE that these are all for poe 1. There aren't any of these tools for poe 2 yet. A lot of these are going to take a bunch of work to get up and running for poe 2 and may take weeks or maybe months to get in a useable state

[lime pasture]

Thanks. I appreciate it. I'm excited for PoE2 and I love my bookmarks when I play games I like.

I already have the wiki and poe2db

[twilit flower]

There's not really any complete tools for PoE2. Because the data for the game isn't available yet for people to mine / check things in game.

That being said there's: https://poe2db.tw/us/ and https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Path_of_Exile_2_Wiki which hold some currently known information.

However, I'm keeping my eye on /r/pathofexile and /r/pathofexile2 for links a few days after PoE2 Early Access (EA) has launched for tools and things after I make several scuff'd builds

[lime pasture]

👍

[ember mica]

Yeah I'd say maybe periodically check on some of those if they look interesting to you. I wouldn't expect any of them to be available in the near future. A lot of them are going to take a TON of work that can only be accessible once the game is actually available

[tacit knot]

Raises a Totem that bombards enemies afflicated by Chaos damage over time Debuffs.

What does rhis mean. The node (dark effigy) doesnt specify damage or anything else. Its a totem

[primal plinth]

since poe 2 wont have maps what will happend with the map tab in po2?

[twilit flower]

Unknown. Maybe it turns into a waystone / tablet tab? Maybe it just isn't used. We'll find out on Dec 6th.

[primal plinth]

hope so

[tacit knot]

Does this make sense supporting a chaos skill?

I guess "damage" can be any type right?

[meager thistle]

Yes

[tacit knot]

Thanks

[meager thistle]

It really only makes sense for a skill that deals chaos damage (or has its damage converted to chaos), since it has "deals 50% less with non chaos damage".

[hardy vigil]

Theoretically, some build could have such strong synergies only with chaos dmg that it makes sense to use this in a non-chaos or partial-chaos skill despite overall dmg loss on the skill itself.

The penalty is large compared to the bonus though.

[little turret]

Just make sure it's your big hitter move and stack on some more powerful supports

Added Fire/Cold/Lightning damage gems also 'gain 25% of damage as [x] damage' but each has 50% less damage of the opposing elements (but not physical or chaos!)
And then there's the new Hourglass support:

[whole silo]

its only for attacks, there werent shown any chaos attacke yet

[tacit knot]

Thanks for that i looked over it

[whole silo]

same at first

wanted to slap on ed

kekw

[little turret]

aren't there a few bow attacks that poison?

[whole silo]

they do but they dont have full chaos conversion i think

in poe2 conversion and added dmg works differently

it doesnt scale with original modifiers

[tacit knot]

Am i reading this correctly as in it can only be skills that last longer? Sorry trying to learn

Or can it be any skill as long as you keep moving?

[hearty walrus]

any damaging skill

of course, it won't really work with skills that you use before you can move 2 metres

[open mist]

Stampede stocks going up

[tacit knot]

But serenity if you just approach a very active playstyle of constant walking around isnt getting to 2 meters easy?

Walk a bit, attack, walk a bit, attack, etc

Of course we hoping for some + movement speed aswell

[hearty walrus]

momentum only works if you move while using the skill

[hardy vigil]

Seems pretty hard to find good amounts of movement speed outside boots.

[hearty walrus]

not inbetween uses

[steep flax]

ASCENDENCY BOSS TIPS:
based on ziggy d's video.
If you want to ascend in act 2 you will ahve to do that sanctum.
And you will have to fight that final boss.

Heres the tip:
THe boss does this attack that plants volcanoes. It's very clearly teepgraphed and regularly spaced (it has some fixed cooldown).
Intentionally position yourself so that you can gather the volcanoes on top of each one side of the map (near the back end wall).

When the boss enrages, retreat to the opposite side, baiting the volcanoes along the perimter. After, fight the boss in the middle and gg.

[tacit knot]

Yes serenity but isnt like a festure of poe 2 rhat you can basically keep moving while attacking?

Looked like it in some vids

[hearty walrus]

yes, that's why that support is worded that way

[tacit knot]

Yea but wouldnt the scenario i just said work then, move attsck move attack

I am sorry if misunderstanding

[hearty walrus]

so, you press the skill button, and if you move 2 metres before the skill fires off/finishes, then the skill will get the damage buff

[tacit knot]

So basically it has to be skills with a long cast time for example

[hearty walrus]

yeah

ot something like stampede that moves you anyway

[tacit knot]

Ah makes sense thanks a lot

[hoary citrus]

is coop fully implemented?

[hearty walrus]

yes

[tacit knot]

Sorry my last question ess about poe 2 on the poe 1 sub

Kinda wanna keep playing both so just generally trying to learn the poe language

[hearty walrus]

you can dodge roll out of animations

[hearty walrus]

this is the right channel for poe2 questions

[vestal folio]

does cooping through campaign cause the mobs to have more health?

[ember mica]

Yeah mobs add a little more than 100% life per person in the party

So having like, a 3 person party doesn't mean 3x life. But maybe closer to something like 3.5x life or so

[tacit knot]

Using a pathfinder in poe 2 and putting a higher limit on poisons u can still apply 1 per hit right

[hearty walrus]

I assume so

[limpid moon]

I heard Penetration doesn’t make an effective resistance go negative anymore, is that correct? Does the same go for elemental Exposure?

[hearty walrus]

penetration is correct. idk about reducing resistances

[distant flame]

when can i play game

i can not wait

i wanna play

[split raft]

7 days, 21 hours and 55 minutes

[distant flame]

https://tenor.com/view/no-sleep-spongebob-squarepants-insomnia-tired-gif-5395300

[pale flare]

This is gonna be fun i think..

[mellow imp]

Probably a dumb question, but I play PoE through steam. Just bought the EA supporter pack for PoE 2 from the in game shop. Expected to see PoE 2 show up in my steam library, but there is nothing there. Do I have to do something else or will it just show up closer to launch?

[twilit flower]

If you have your game's organized it might be all the way at the bottom. (in a folder called "uncategorized").

[hearty walrus]

might have to login to your account on the website, go to your profile, click 'path of exile 2 early access' on the right panel

[limpid moon]

In my friend’s case getting the game on the site included getting a Steam key to add it to the library, check if you have one of those?

[tulip urchin]

sure

[hearty walrus]

poe2 is online only

[fresh reef]

Anyone know if the standalone client will be release for EA? I got a PoE2 supporter key and linked my account to steam but its not generating a steam code for me? Logged back out and in, refreshed the page.

Wait this might be the wrong channel

[grizzled isle]

Eh, could be wronger. Not like there's much discussion in here anyway. There will be a standalone launcher for the EA, likely to be released a day or two before the EA launch.
And i think they ran out of steam codes, due to higher than expected demand, so wait a day or two and new ones should be generated

If you paid the money, your account is enabled and you'll get into the ea somehow

[solemn kindle]

You automatically have early access after buying an early access supporter pack if you want to play on a standalone client.

[wise root]

Try here. https://www.pathofexile.com/my-account/early-access

[fresh reef]

yea I tried

[solemn kindle]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3590331/page/1#p25497347

Steam keys will return in a few days

[wise root]

Well there you go. Check that page again in a day or two it would seem. 😄

Thats the correct spot. It'll change to a button to redeem a key when it's working

Also there's no pre-load currently so you aren't missing out on anything 😉 except maybe for pushing the game up the steam charts lol

[sweet maple]

will there be character creation

[ember mica]

As in like changing their face and hair? No

Classes all look how they look. But you don't really look at your character in poe

[hearty walrus]

all the characters have a history and personality. they're not blank slates

[long cape]

in poe1, marauder is probably smarter than most of the cast lmfao

lorewise

[trim turret]

No point. Your build is your character's identity and you're covered in gear and using all kinds of skill effects.

[meager epoch]

how are there so many guides out already when the games not out yet?

[ember mica]

What guides?

[hearty walrus]

most of them are likely theory crafting. the rest are scams/clickbait/etc

[ember mica]

There isn't nearly enough information to have any sort of actual guide. So whatever you found is either clickbait or just someone throwing around vague ideas

[hearty walrus]

all i'm really seeing are theory crafting vids

[solemn kindle]

coping videos

[copper valley]

What class are you guys planning on using first? I'm leaning towards mercenary or monk

[zealous osprey]

Monk - Invoker (or) Sorceress - Chronomancer

[long cape]

warrior and see which ascendacy has more static number

[grizzled isle]

Warrior - titan - big stick go bonk - TWO big sticks????

[raw olive]

is there a lowdown on what classes/skills/wep are available in the ea

i have been veryyy hyped* for the summoner but idk if thats available nxt week

[grizzled isle]

The classes are Witch, Sorceress, Monk, Ranger, Mercenary, and Warrior.

The weapons are wands, staves, quarterstaves, bows, crossbows, and maces.

There are too many skills revealed, and not even all of them, but there are plenty of skills for each of those weapons. And yes, there are minion skills (shown as being Witch skills, but useable by any class), so you can go for a summoner build 🙂

[raw olive]

im kinda tempted to use spectres after hearing they are a bit of a pokemon-esque mechanic

which class is the witch hunter alr

[grizzled isle]

Witch Hunter is a Mercenary ascendancy

And yeah, spectres look like a pretty cool option. I'm not a minion player, but the poe2 minions look much closer to the original intention of poe1 spectres (which were notoriously hard to balance and so ended up mostly nerfed to support-minions)

[raw olive]

ah

[serene girder]

anyone has poe2 passive tree build website?

[hearty walrus]

devs haven't released the tree yet

[half ingot]

Game isn't out yet

[tulip urchin]

what game?

[narrow copper]

do we know what rage does?

[grave cloak]

Will we all crash when joining a town on launch? I wonder.

How many players can be in the same town? Does someone know?

[hearty walrus]

towns can have multiple instances

[zealous osprey]

There's always multiple instances of public zones... So if the server holds up in general, it shouldn't be an issue

Well, the statement holds true even if I remove "public"

[grave cloak]

Yeah I hope so

Imagine all players in one town 💀

Everyone with MTX ofc

[topaz sonnet]

is sea server available on poe2?

[grave cloak]

Don't think they mentioned what servers are available yet

[solid dagger]

As a guess, servers are likely to be in same locations as POE1

[silk lagoon]

Usually the hardest part of new leagues in PoE 1 is escaping the starting town.

settlers of kalguur was the roughest in recent history due to popularity

and then never going back to town until you beat act 1 out of fear

[tacit knot]

"effect of ignite". What does this mean

I mean shouldnt it be damage, or are they talking about the duration

[hearty walrus]

ailments work differently

[tacit knot]

Okay so what does this mean exactly do u know

[hearty walrus]

it'll make ignites stronger

I don't know the exact math of how ailments will work

[tacit knot]

Does rhe key work for steam u think?

[tacit knot]

Yea it isnt phrases like that in poe 1 right?

[hearty walrus]

right

they work differently and things are worded differently

conversions and 'gained as' work differently too

[hardy vigil]

All we know is at https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Ignite

[tacit knot]

I would like the key for steam if thats possible dont thibk its separated

[grizzled isle]

I feel like viper mentioned that "effect of ailments" has been changed to different wording that is more clear? Not certain of the details though

[tacit knot]

Thanks ksielvin

Poe 2 wiki wow lol hehe 🙂 should have thought about that

[brazen ocean]

are ailments just based on skill elemental type or does it specifically have to say it inflicts that type of ailment for it to take effect?

[tacit knot]

Thanks moth

[hearty walrus]

ignite will only be applied with fire damage

"The chance to apply ignite depends on the amount of pre-mitigation damage dealt relative to 25% of the monster's ailment threshold.[1] Critical strikes do not inherently always apply ailments, but they do indirectly affect the chance to apply ailments due to critical damage bonus affecting the damage dealt. Because the ignite chance is determined pre-mitigation, resistances and other damage reduction do not affect it."

[tacit knot]

Yea it has been nerfed

[brazen ocean]

right, but lets say you are autoattacking with a mace, since that attack type is physical there's an inherent chance to inflict bleeding?

[tacit knot]

It now is like chill with a treshhold

I got to say they did a good job balancing it feels like everything too op or unbalanced is gone

[vivid arch]

Does anybody understand the meaning and calculation order of the new 'gain x% of _ _ _ damage as _ _ _' and 'gain x% of _ _ _ damage as extra _ _ _ damage' ?

[hardy vigil]

Still expecting it to be similar to poe1 formula at https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Damage
Mind you, one things that trips people up in poe1 and likely poe2 is local vs global modifiers, which has already been sorted out before this formula. The numbers on a weapon may be applied at a different step than numbers on other gear pieces.

[tacit knot]

What is "bombards"

Just a term for attacks?

I just wonder becUse it doesnt show any damage

[hardy vigil]

The tooltip is probably from an old version and didn't show the numbers at the time. Some are like year old. The bombard is not intended as keyword.

Some of the one with numbers have also been changed in more recent builds so take everything with a pinch of salt for now.

Just the other day I learned that a support gem I was hoping to unlock among the first has probably been removed.

[tacit knot]

Yea. I wonder do we get the full data on release day or few days before?

Few days before would be kinds nice but. Its both ok

But if on release i think id first look into the options instrad of playing

Ah. Yea that aint great

Thats the right order right theorycraft a little create something then play. So itd be kinda unfortunate if we only see it on the day itself. But yea it is what it is if so

Right as in, if you enjoy that and wamma create something urself first

[soft orbit]

they said preload will probably be a few days before

so people can start datamining from then

[tacit knot]

Men that makes me sooo happy. 🙂 juwt like w leagues

Ah i probsbly understood wrong. Well i hope the data will be available 2/3 days in advance. But i see a lot of varying opinions so.

[flat mist]

can't datamine preloads, they don't have anything interesting
interesting stuff is a few hours before launch

[soft orbit]

have zero experience with datamining but why wouldn't you be able to? is it not the full game

[flat mist]

according to chuanhsing (poedb dude) the preloads are all the models/textures/animations/sounds/effects/etc
ggg specifically removes passive trees, gem info, etc
and since those files are relatively small they only send them a few hours before release

they don't like datamining too early

[sly wadi]

boo no fun

[soft orbit]

ah ok gotcha, thanks !

the only thing im really curious about is seeing ascendancy nodes, since that's the only thing you won't be able to see immediately, the rest im happy to discover as i go

[flat mist]

they'll probably all be on reddit before we're out of queue

[tacit knot]

Guys how would you advice me playing poe 2. Id prefer to start making a build, but seeing the data is probably shown on release day that would mean that i am making a build during release instead of playing the game

Itd be easier like leagues a few days in advance data release, but a lot of people disagree

[haughty ibex]

I have no poe knowledge, just planning to rawdog a minion build and enjoy failing 🙂

[tacit knot]

Yea i basicslly spent all my playing time theorycrafting and analyzingso its a fun part for me

[hardy vigil]

There aren't many decisions to make with 5 passive points and you can respec them. Just start playing and consider planning the next day. Or when external tools update.

[tacit knot]

What do you mean ksiel 5 passive points?

Dont we get 1 per level?

Yea i dont mind not having pob, its handy tho

At least a build planner passive tree site / app

But can do it myself aswell just write down important nodes etc

[hardy vigil]

In the picture it's mostly a choice of taking offensive or defensive nodes early, leading to one of the notables. If you can make that choice (considering respec is available) then you can play and allocate your first 5 points.

[hearty walrus]

it's important to note that each of the 2 classes for an attribute (like witch and sorceress), will have different starting passives. and then those passives will also be different for the rest of the classes

[haughty ibex]

for a minion witch is there any keywords/ stats I should look out for in skills, armor/gems ect?

[brisk quarry]

Any idea when the passive tree will be released?

[hardy vigil]

December 6th. 😈

[brisk quarry]

POE1, usually passive tree was availalbe before the launch. 🙂

[fathom herald]

its a whole new game and they arent trying to spoil too much

not like that's stopping the dataminers

[hearty walrus]

^

[hardy vigil]

Best we have atm:

• https://poe2db.tw/us/Passive_Skill_Tree
• https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1h24qsx/i_overlayed_the_known_keystones_on_the_passive/
• Dreamcore's videos highlighting notables in each section of the tree

[brisk quarry]

guess ill decide what to play on launch..lol

spend a few hours looking at the tree

[hearty walrus]

I'm doing a fire minion infernalist

[light canopy]

hey guys i've spent over $500 on poe1 where do i go to get my beta key for poe2?

[tacit knot]

😢

https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1h24qsx/i_overlayed_the_known_keystones_on_the_passive/ does this include any of dreamcores announced passives even from his yesterday vid?

[hardy vigil]

As you can see, that post is very new. Pretty sure it includes all keystones we know to have been in the most recent version of the game they showed.

poe2db.tw is going to list keystones like Ghost Reaver but it's gone 🥲

[tacit knot]

Lol ur enjoying it right 😦 haha

Yea dreamcore wsd very adamant about most valuable nodes being on the outside of tree

Was rhwt in poe 1 too? Didnt really focus on it

Just surprising he didnt take any from the inside of the tree u think theres really not as valuable nodes?

[hardy vigil]

There are keystones closer to middle in poe1 tree. You can conveniently search it at sites like https://poeplanner.com/ and most of those will update with poe2 support as soon as they can.

Perhaps more importantly, the middle is a highway across the tree in poe1 and has a jack-of-all-trades class that won't be in poe2.

[slate summit]

I haven't played first PoE, so I have no idea what works and how different characters differ in gameplay.
Is there a room for error in terms of bad builds, is it mostly picked perks or gear matter more, can you respec, do you need to grind rng for specific item for the character to work or not, and so on?
So far I'm mostly interested in the witch with minions, but not sure what my options are with that approach.

[hardy vigil]

I wouldn't say there aren't valuable nodes in the middle. Before really getting to know the skill tree personally, this seems like it might be a decent take on the design of the tree: https://youtu.be/WnTkzg7Er0s?t=731

from that video:

[hardy vigil]

The main issue with poe1 punishing bad builds was because respecs were too inaccessible in early and mid game, and still pretty expensive later. After designing things different for poe2, they put the new system into poe1 last summer. In that system, gold drops as currency and can be used for respecs instead of the old currency. This allows them to give you cheaper respec prices during early and mid game.
That and another big convenient change that is also from poe2 have made the summer expansion poe1's most popular one yet.

So yes, in poe2 you will have respecs to fix build.

[tacit knot]

Is there no more automatic blocking?

Like base block chance on shield

[ember mica]

there is

[tacit knot]

Thanks for pic

[ember mica]

there is just also active block on top of that

[tacit knot]

Okay good

Can only be accessed with shields

Or certain weapond aswell?

Thus far i can only say every single thing they changed in like wow, good nice

Im*

[ember mica]

you mean active block? yeah, it's shield only. Possibility for anything to change down the line, but shield only is likely

[hardy vigil]

we've seen this at one point

[tacit knot]

Okay yes. Nice

[tacit knot]

Do u think sanctum ascendion is moet like current la

Lab

But u noe can choose between 3 different

Aware of benefits / drawbacks?

[ember mica]

Ultimately just comes down to which one you like the best. I guess the biggest upside (or downside, depending on how much you like it) is that you can ascend earliest if you just do the sanctum one

If you hate sanctum, or are bad at it, you just gotta wait till acts 3 or 4

[tacit knot]

And are maps kinda gone?

[ember mica]

In the way that they are in poe 1, yeah. But it's just an entirely new system

[tacit knot]

Oh and at what sct can u do santum?

It does look cool

[ember mica]

Sanctum is act 2

[tacit knot]

Am watching raxxanterax vid

[hardy vigil]

maps are in the atlas. waystone is the drop you need to access them. Map sets the location/biome and some mechanics it contains. Waystone has the tier and rolled modifiers.

[ember mica]

Ultimatum 3, Unknown 4 (it's probably gonna be tota)

Yeah I would probably recommend just watching the actual GGG livestream if you want the most info, rather than going through other content people

But if you're a new player it might be more easily digestible if someone else is explaining it maybe?

[tacit knot]

Yea honestly i dont even know what ultimatum is or tota do

[ember mica]

But the GGG livestream is fairly concise and new player friendly give the amount of info they're throwing out

[tacit knot]

So*

[ember mica]

Right yeah, so ultimately, what were once league mechanics in poe 1 are now being transferred to poe 2 as ascension mechanics. But the GGG livestream talks about it in detail

[dire basin]

Does someone know if there is gonna be option to see ascendancy points before choosing class? or we will go "blind" on day 1, thanks

[ember mica]

Jonathan said there's no ascendancy stuff on character select now. That might change in the future, no guarantee tho

For new players though, just picking the class that is thematically tied to the playstyle that you want is kinda foolproof. Wanna go big bonk, go warrior. Wanna have minions, go witch, etc etc

[modest tree]

Do we know how long the early access will last?

[ember mica]

at least 6 months, likely closer to a year

[dire basin]

ye ye thanks, and thats gonna be like lil text probably what is what class description, like in PoE1 i think if there is that there tbh i always skip and cant remember is there text 😅 but yea its early access so just gotta pick what looks cool

[modest tree]

I'm guessing it's confirmed by ggg then?

[ember mica]

For a while, they had like, class "themes" listed in the character select. Not sure if that's still around though, as things change constantly

[ember mica]

Yeah it's here: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3587981

[modest tree]

Nice, ty

[ember mica]

Early Access is basically gonna go until the day it's ready for the 1.0 launch. Or maybe a day or two downtime to get everything ready. But throughout EA, we're gonna get 6 more classes, 24 more ascendancies, 3 more acts, a bunch of endgame stuff. Plenty of stuff to work on

[modest tree]

It's a pretty crazy project

I like it a lot

[ember mica]

They said they want to get 1.0 out before the end of 2025 at the latest. And knowing GGG and how they're treating poe 2. 6 months is a very light estimate haha

[dire basin]

also I think they want to make it after ~2months of PoE1 league so probably thats gonna determ release too

so most likely around november 2025, its just my random prediction if poe1 leagues gonna be ~january, may, september

[spare ruin]

excited for my first ever action rpg games

[hardy vigil]

You've got a week to try Hades or Ravenswatch or something if you like. They've got wasd+mouse controls.

[spare ruin]

I played hades on my phone and i love it Although it will be a new control for me on pc i will definetly love it

[hardy vigil]

Not much rpg in those but roguelikes have more limited scope so you can get a good experience in a week.

[spare ruin]

ngl when i saw asmongold watch the poe2 stream

i was excited for a game that i never played before lmao

is there like any yt video that i can watch and learn before playing poe2

i did just watch the lore video for poe 1

so i can undestand the story better

[twilit flower]

The game isn't out ... there's videos that have bits and pieces, but as for the data/story ... we won't have that until likely after Dec 6th if you're wanting a lot of help.

[hardy vigil]

Have you watched their EA launch livestream? It was pretty well explained for newbies IMO.

[spare ruin]

i did watched it honestly the skill tree is way to overwhelming

[open mist]

It's not as crazy as it looks

Everything's organized into categories, you just have to learn them

[hardy vigil]

Their players who stick with the game are kind of split into people who feel excited about the skill tree and those who tolerate it. 🙂

[spare ruin]

Im definetly picking the monk class lol it looks cool

in the stream

I hope this community is positive and helpful

[hardy vigil]

this one might help about the passive tree: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnTkzg7Er0s

[spare ruin]

oh thanks

[hardy vigil]

they've said that in playtests the monks die the most but they're also the ones happiest with their class 🤣

[spare ruin]

Lmao

how many classes are there in early acess i forgot

[hardy vigil]

I want to play quarterstaff and I'll probably do it as a monk. Planning to start with some defensive nodes on the tree that I might respec out later.

Six.

[spare ruin]

Is respec a new thing?

[hardy vigil]

No, poe1 has had respecs but only last summer they finally made them more accessible and cheaper during early game. They were testing the way it'll work in poe2. It was very popular and becomes a permanent feature of poe1 too.

[spare ruin]

ohh

[hardy vigil]

there is still some cost involved. If you want to use it a lot then you might need to grind.

[spare ruin]

How many hours did you spend on poe1

[hardy vigil]

I don't know. I used to play with their non-steam client so the hours didn't get recorded. Last time when I went back, I used Steam and played almost 300 hours during that league. Then I felt I had met all my goals. There would've been plenty of new things to do though.

[spare ruin]

damn how many hours daily do you reckon

I was afraid to try arpg since its involved a lot of grinding and times consuming And im afraid that i couldnt keep up and burn out early

[hardy vigil]

I think "keeping up" and burning out is mostly mentality thing. The gameplay itself is grinding (past campaign anyway) so either you enjoy the process or the game doesn't have much to offer.

It's pointless to compare yourself to people like entertainers who play for a living. They'll shoot ahead within first days.

poe1 has many content types and they've tried to bring over the best. If you find a type of content suitable for you then grinding it will be fun. Trading with others can potentially help avoid content you dislike.

[spare ruin]

I hope i will enjoy this game

[hardy vigil]

I hope it can live up to people's expectations! It's looking good but there's a bit too much hype.

[spare ruin]

do you think the community is positive or negative of new player like me since i come from league of legend like That game and community is so toxic

[hardy vigil]

League has that unfortunate setup where strangers are put into a team and have different expectations of each other. And it's a pvp game besides. This is mostly pve and most people play solo. Easier to chill and talk bs on discord.

[spare ruin]

thats good to hear

anyway it was nice chatting with you thanks for answering my curiousity

[solar vigil]

The EA starts on 6th December.

If you already have access you can gift it to a friend or someone else

They got footage from when they got invited to play on the test some time ago.
No one is streaming live cause no one can login yet

[red sorrel]

so just reached maps with my first character and pretty much everything fucks me lol. should i start trading? following this build https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyflqUwBQrk - playing on necro

[hardy vigil]

this is poe2 help. Try poe1 help.

[red sorrel]

oooh

gotchu

tyty

[hearty walrus]

the face of the community (devs themselves and the popular streamers) are very friendly and welcoming. this discord is really good too. I can't speak for anywhere else tho as I haven't really been anywhere else

[tired pilot]

how can I go frost sorc? it just depends on the staff or how dies it workk

stormweaver is lightning based right?

[hardy vigil]

Stormweaver is not just lightning. The graphic even has ice floating around her.

[hearty walrus]

we haven't seen much from stormweaver, but I think it's general elemental. maybe cold and lightning specifically

[hardy vigil]

You probably go frost sorc by using your first uncut skill gem (in the first town) to unlock Ice Nova. Then when you get tier 3 skill gem, Frostbolt.

[tired pilot]

ty

does anyone have a really simple video where these basics are explained? because Im new to poe

[hardy vigil]

I think their official EA livestream was good at explaining basics to new people. Have you seen it?

[tired pilot]

yes but I felt like it was kinda advanced

I need a more basic level even

Im really confused about the skillling

I mean I start as sorc right? down the path I need to pick an ascendency etc

but before that..

[hearty walrus]

you get uncut skill gems from specific encounters and randomly. you use those to pick a skill

[tired pilot]

what? I cant really choose?

ah now I get it

sry

[hearty walrus]

using an uncut gem let's you choose a skill to turn it into

[tired pilot]

so its basically like a stem cell

[hearty walrus]

yeah

[tired pilot]

ok I get it

thank you very much

so lets say I get a drop right. a nice staff with cold damage.. so then I would use those gems to get frost skills and to builkd around that staff

is that kinda how it works?

[hearty walrus]

kinda. or you keep looking for a weapon with the damage bonuses you want

[wintry gyro]

Are there going to be 3 total ascendancies per class?

i.e. do we not know the 3rd for any of them yet?

[tired pilot]

at release yes

now only 2

[wintry gyro]

oh, in EA only 2?

I see.

[tired pilot]

thats how I understood it

in the end 12 classes with each 3 asc.

[hearty walrus]

at ea launch, 6 classes with 2 ascendancies each

they'll add more during ea

[wintry gyro]

DURING ea?

pog

[tired pilot]

I mean it could be a year

or so

[hardy vigil]

I can't find a skill system guide I'd be happy to recommend, yet. Maybe Serenity has you covered. 🙂

[tired pilot]

🙂

[hardy vigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1308714301262925965/1312056536201297972/IMG_2210.jpg?ex=674b1b5f&is=6749c9df&hm=be92f766a8f79326e0984158a3c2a90860f75dc0b9be9f6d4b6782ee52746e40&

[hearty walrus]

I don't know how many skills you can have. you can only use each support gem once. support gems add to the attribute requirement of the skill

[hardy vigil]

EA launch has 2 each. The other 6 classes and 24 more ascendancies should be getting added during EA.

[hardy vigil]

might interest you: https://maxroll.gg/poe2/resources/skills-in-path-of-exile-2

[hazy vault]

Can someone explain what support gems are? I’ve never played PoE and based on some videos I watched I still don’t really get it.

Are they a feature in the menu or are they actual items you need to find / farm? Do you acquire them from random drops or linked to certain quests? Can you trade them? Can you change what gems to use? Yes basically I have no idea what it is

[hearty walrus]

support gems modify and buff the skills they're linked to

they're actual items

you get them from using an uncut gem. those drop randomly and from specific ecounters. every item in the game is tradeable minus gold. you can change gems freely

[hardy vigil]

I just linked a guide that includes a section on them. 😄

[hearty walrus]

oh yeah. scroll a bit down in the link

[grave cloak]

So what movies u planning to watch on launch since servers won't work on day 1?

[flat mist]

i'm going out till servers are stable

[hearty walrus]

gonna wait for my bf to get off work so we can start together

[craggy gyro]

i will watch quin69 cry 😄

[polar sail]

Okay a few of the skill gems mention "Empower". Does anyone know if things like Flame Wall empower the projectiles that pass through it, or if its a specific mechanic based on charges or something?

[hearty walrus]

empower seems to mean "buffing other skills"

i'm not seeing 'empower' on flamewall

[fresh reef]

Any idea when the GGG launcher is releasing?

[floral yoke]

When will I be able to download the client?

A few days prior to the Early Access launch. We’ll announce the details in the news, so you won’t miss it!

[grave cloak]

So lets say I get this skill via my ascendency and add some support gems to it. When I crit will it trigger the supported spell? No, right?

[hearty walrus]

crits with spells will trigger elemental storm

it's not a meta skill, so you can't add active skills to it

[grave cloak]

I would want to add support gems

Like added lightning dmg

[hearty walrus]

you can add support gems to ascendancy skills

[grave cloak]

Yeah, the question would be if the CoC trigger provided by the ascendency node is using the non supported elemental storm skill or the support one u know?

[hearty walrus]

there'd only be one 'elemental storm' that would appear in your skills window. that one is supportable and would be the one triggered

[grave cloak]

I hope so and not some hidden skill which then gets triggered

[hearty walrus]

i'm 100% certain i'm correct

[red anchor]

is it me or does pure totem not look that great with the current information we have

hard limit on one slam ancestral totem that doesn't scale off our own weapon

is there anything other than shockwave totem thats not on po2db

[hardy vigil]

spell totems probably come later with templar

[red anchor]

alongside ancestral warrior totem

maybe a unique will enable totem only hmm

[hearty walrus]

have you seen ancestral bond?

[red anchor]

so we're pretty sure ancestral bond break the limit in the text of the totem then right?

lke when it says "Limit 1 totem"

100 spirit is huge so I hope the ancestral warrior totems have some really big dick weapons

[hardy vigil]

you can socket Hammer of the Gods in 😏

[red anchor]

Really curious if that will bypass hotg cooldown

Then we login ignite straight hogging it

[stuck thistle]

Do we have a confirmation if cluster jewels are coming?

I heard Jonathan said it’s a Year 5 thing

Was it?

[short sandal]

ChatGPT, I need to engage in a 7-day coma-status. How to proceed?

[stuck thistle]

How about Tattoos, I believe they need time to rework these, Omens got reworked perfectly for meta crafting like holy fucking shit, it had me stoked even more

[hardy vigil]

Something like that. They don't really see a design need for it in the current plans but he's not opposed to them so probably eventually.

[red anchor]

I might be wrong but I think cluster jewels were a bit of a bandaid to the old tree and they've tried to design this one to avoid the need to do that

for now anyway

[stuck thistle]

I see

I think it'd be nice if it actually enabled new builds, I mean in PoE 1 they already did, a bit broken too when they came out due to aurastackers

[grave cloak]

Should I go evasion as sorc u think?

[desert egret]

Ancestral Warrior Totem with Sunder looks like it can be pretty strong if you are synergizing your other skills/mechanics with it. For example, weaving in other skills that break armor or heavy stun will make the sunder from the totem hit harder. I'm so glad we have a few options for getting more totems, like the increase limit support and the new ancestral bond that allows spirit reservation for totems. I don't know which will be the better route to take, but I'm damn sure gonna have fun testing out both!

[red anchor]

that line of thinking of wanting to use totems as supplemental damage is fine and maybe it's what they're intending to do with the changes in poe2

but I'm wondering mainly on how to scale totem damage and how it will differ from scaling my player slam damage

focusing on both seems like a bad idea and if I want to know what a build where I'm maximizing my totem damage looks like

[ember mica]

evasion/es/armour is just one of the defensive layer's you'll want. It ultimately comes down to what other defensives layers the three give. Like in poe 1, for instance, almost all builds will run stuff with evasion, hybrid or otherwise, because it can naturally roll spell suppression. A ton of stuff is getting twisted around in poe 2, like spells not differentiating from attacks from mobs, so we don't know if anything like spell suppression will be a thing. I saw someone post a picture of a staff that has spell block on it, so who knows what's up with that stuff.

Until you reach maps, your only main goal will basically be "use whatever's good". es/eva/armour are usually not super important to prioritize early on, since getting resistances is way more impactful than stacking the base stuff. So even if you have a mishmash of es/eva/armour, it's probably a better call than just using specifically evasion if it means higher resistances

[grave cloak]

Yeah, I mean in endgame. Rn I just want to stack lightning damage, reduce enemy's lightning res, lightning pen for offense. But defence is open. But you are right... will have to see the tree.

[grave cloak]

I just watched Ben_ and pretty sure he said suppresion is gone

[hearty walrus]

it is. spells and attacks are less distinguished in defenses i don't actually know :x

[ember mica]

I'm not 100% convinced. It might be, and was theorized for a long time that it was, because devs said in an interview a long time ago that spells and attacks from enemies were treated the same. So it was assumed spell suppression would be gone or taken away. But there was a video from tokyo games show where someone went through the defences tab and spell suppression was still there

[hearty walrus]

it could still be in, i'm not 100% sure. block affects both afaik

[ember mica]

And there's also still this that I believe was shown recently

[hearty walrus]

right

maybe it's just active block that'll affect both

[ember mica]

Yeah. I don't want to assume anything right now, because things have changed a TON in the past year, and I believe the "spells and attacks are the same from enemies" thing was said like 6 months ago.

I was sure spell suppression would be gone, because it's kind of a thorn in the side anyway, as basically every single build wants it. Seems like a good call to get rid of it. But who knows

This was from gamescom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vxwcjcDKC4

So 3 months old, still not super reliable at this point haha

[hardy vigil]

This should be recent. I believe suppression (and "deflect") used to appear on the row with armour, evasion and block. It's gone.

old for comparison:

[stark lynx]

Oh no, life regen is also gone based on this screenshot

[hardy vigil]

Oh no!

[spare ruin]

wht time will poe2 release? i know the it will be release on 6 december

[hearty walrus]

11am pst

[spare ruin]

when's the full release or we dont know yet?

[hearty walrus]

at least 6 months, up to a year

[worn ruin]

If you play hardcore and die does it convert your character softcore?

[hearty walrus]

yes

[tacit knot]

Where can i find "the havoc video"

People talking about it isk whete to find

[hardy vigil]

search youtube for "havoc gems and settings"

if it's giving you something else, include poe2

[tacit knot]

Thanks

[tacit knot]

Am i wrong in assuming in the north side of the tree they are kinda pushing you to be an energy shield build?

Theres so much es nodes it feels like going for life may not be encouraged for a strong build

Dont het me wrong i know u can do anything u like but i mean trying to build as strong a build as i can on release

[flat mist]

no life on the tree anymore

[tacit knot]

Yea i get that but ES is now there x10 lol

[flat mist]

it looks like they're making es a comparable defense layer to arm/eva

i dont think they're pushing you to do an es build

i think they're no longer pushing you to also go eva/arm

though it would probably be a good idea

[tacit knot]

So in a way that could also mean, armour build will be less viable in the north of the tree?

I mean u could kinda aura up etc and still go pretty high

[hardy vigil]

Yes, because it's traditionally the int area (although now we have flexible travel nodes) and int gear gives energy shield.

[tacit knot]

So u think that's going to be reinforced more?

As in easier to access sourh of tree

[hardy vigil]

I don't think it's reinforced more. Going south may not help you rely on health or mana (MoM) instead of energy shield.

[tacit knot]

U know What i mean. Just so they made it less viable to rely on armour north kf the tree

Maybe a little more viable starting from the templar point

[hardy vigil]

Less than what? poe1? It was always like that. str/int is the armor/es hybrid themed area. You can also use other things despite being there though.

[tacit knot]

Hm i dont know if i fully agree i mean i gey your point

But i saw a lot of tanky mages in gauntlets

Auras turned em over the edge

But maybe that it a lot less easy to get now

Wirh rhe changes, making a distinction between the south of the tree and the north

Im juwt curious

Thanks anyway

So if i wanted to go sorc is it unrealistic to expect the same i could expect in poe 1

[hardy vigil]

I'm hopeful that poe2 would let me have easier time building str (thus using str gear for armor and str weapons) with a character starting in opposite int/dex area, than poe1.

[tacit knot]

Gauntlet sorcs ended up with 25-40k armour

[hardy vigil]

From what I've seen so far.

Have to actually play around with it though.

[tacit knot]

Yes.

Its rhe reason nobody choose rangers in harder modes

And that was really sad cus rhey were cool

Evasion/dex didnt really help their survivability as muvh as youd like

[hardy vigil]

Assuming deadeye reveal is legit, the tailwind damage reduction is exactly the kind of secondary defense I'd want for full evasion character, and could also instead be used with active block character. I had been a little unhappy that Ghost Dance went missing. (IMO its icon could be seen 10+ months ago in some leak.)

[tacit knot]

Yes i think i still saw it in a video some days ago, of a guy trying to explain all the skills he saw on screen

May have been older recordings of poe 2 tho

[hardy vigil]

Hoping to effectively see Wind Dancer or Ghost Dance on some unique

[tacit knot]

Havent seen anything about a tailwind damage reduction i thought it was just speed

But yes, rangers were all about speed but they werent that defensively great so, thwt could make em great

[hardy vigil]

The texts have been added here. It's just not clear where the leak came from. https://poe2db.tw/us/Ranger#Ranger

[tacit knot]

I mean u could make ur ranger absurdly fast

They did a great job at balancing

At last poe i learnt to find ways to find op things

In the tree

And skills

But now, it all feels so balanced, every downside has an upside, everything unusable in the past gained something usable

Its exceedingly hard to find "the best" and they may be right that everything will at least feel decently playable

Indont get where the site got thwt from? All the ascendancy nodes?

Havent seen it anywhere

[hardy vigil]

fextralife published it first but source is not clear

[hearty walrus]

a lot of people that went to events are releasing their footage from such events. and yeah, i don't fully trust fextralife

[floral yoke]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1h384ly/deadeye_and_pathfinder_full_ascendancy_from/

[hearty walrus]

any idea where their source is from?

[hardy vigil]

Yeah, but original source is still fextralife without media proof, so far. If someone trolled them they would happily post it.

[hardy vigil]

I call even teasers leaks. What is it then? 🤨

[floral yoke]

fextralife wiki has access to more Ascendancies, all the skill pictures, and most of the skill detail and quality effects.

[hardy vigil]

Weird. But thanks for info.

[floral yoke]

This is the first place where you can see skill icons and quality effects. The skill icons also match the video and are clearer.

[hardy vigil]

F5ing the monk ascendancy pages already.

[soft orbit]

shame of all the people to get that info it's them

[tacit knot]

It does feel a little weird, ignite now works with monster treshhold. But theres still the x chance to ignite.

So first you have x chance, and then it calculates the strength of ignite hy monster treshhold?

Guys is this taken from fextralife then? The fact that it is filled now with all ascendancies https://poe2db.tw/us/Ascendancy_class

I mean Pathfinder and deadeye

[hearty walrus]

that is taken from fextralife. not the most trustworthy source (don't know where they got their info), so we'll see if it's real or not

[tacit knot]

I at this point dont know i can take this serious?

I like to plan but, i like reputable sources not waste time

[craggy gyro]

Fextra🤮

[tacit knot]

What do shockwaves do?

I am curious aswell. Lets say ur pathfinder and u take one of the concoctions. Could u back it up with a support gem?

[hearty walrus]

ascendancy skills can be supported

[calm urchin]

how long will early access last for poe2?

[ember mica]

at leasy 6 months

up to a year

[calm urchin]

oh so like it's gonna be sort of normal gameplay just paid for the first few months

i thought it's just some few day tests and then f2p

guess i have to buy it or sth

[ember mica]

Yeah basically. It's not like one of those "play the game earlier than others and have an advantage" kind of things.

They still have to add 6 more classes, 3 more acts, 24 more ascendancies, all the other weapon types and their skills, more endgame stuff

So it's more of a beta

[calm urchin]

so what will happen to the characters and items from early access

do they go to poe2 standard or sth

[ember mica]

basically quarantined to an early access standard

so they don't have any affect on the actual standard realm

[calm urchin]

will the EA standard interact with post EA standard

or they gonna be separate things

[hearty walrus]

no

[ember mica]

^

[hearty walrus]

separate

[calm urchin]

ah i see

[ember mica]

Yeah EA standard will basically become like a time capsule. Once the game is fully released, EA standard will basically become locked, no more characters can be made there, can't transfer out of it

[modest tree]

Are there still mines in PoE 2? I'm wondering about glacial cascade

[ember mica]

yeah they'll be in when the shadow is put in the game

[modest tree]

Nice

[ember mica]

they were reworked a good amount, I'd peep the exilecon item design segment, it's a sick talk overall, but they talk about the whole design rework

[modest tree]

Got it, ty

[ember mica]

But basically traps are an actual weapon type now, roll their own stats (rather than just scaling off of spell damage), have different detonation types

[modest tree]

Oh what

Different detonation types as in different elements, like with the crossbow?

Or is it something new?

[hearty walrus]

as in different ways to trigger

(i assume, i haven't seen the design segment)

[ember mica]

What she said. Like how traps and mines are separate in poe 1. You can pick up different trap base types and some have like, manual detonation, some are area detonation

[modest tree]

Oh, ok

[ember mica]

https://youtu.be/WIuIdulr-K0?si=VlKECycEGSc6Trr5&t=1715

Here's a timestamped clip to them discussing it

[modest tree]

Ty

[spare ruin]

what is stash tab

[near osprey]

a tab in stash

[hearty walrus]

extra storage in your personal chest

[spare ruin]

i saw that the most useful way to use shop point is by buying stash tab

is that true

[hearty walrus]

yes

it's the only mtx that has any gameplay effect

[spare ruin]

how many stash tab r there[

[near osprey]

as much as you want

[hearty walrus]

https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/category/stash-tabs

[ember mica]

As a free player, you get 4 standard stash tabs at the start. Basically just like, a big grid that you can put anything in as long as it fits within the squares. You can buy more specialized tabs that hold specific items in much higher quantity, as well as special tabs that allow you to sell your items to other players conveniently

[near osprey]

the currency tab is a must have if you want a tab

[hearty walrus]

and a premium

[ember mica]

Note that I would avoid buying any stash tabs for now. For one, there is likely to be a sale coming up soon. Second, we don't know with certainty which tabs will be super useful in poe 2. Outside of stuff like a currency and premium tab

[spare ruin]

okay i might ask again during early acess

so i dont fck up

[ember mica]

For sure, that's a good call. GGG does a stash tab sale every 3 weeks for an extended weekend. Next one is supposed to be next weekend, so it'll be a good time to buy then

[spare ruin]

oh there sales

wow the dev are generous

[hearty walrus]

you have no idea

[near osprey]

you should be fine with the default stash for the first few hours/days, then you can see if a sale comes on and so on and have a better understanding of what it offers

[spare ruin]

yeah im watching a video currently explaining about each tab

there's a lot to learn since i'never play arpg game before

[ember mica]

Yeah the big reason to wait for now is because since so much is changing between poe 1 and 2, it's best to just make sure you don't waste your points on what might not transfer over, or what might be useful in poe 1 and a waste in poe 2

[spare ruin]

ok thanks for the advice

[final ocean]

if u buy the poe2 early access supporter pack will you be able to play right now?

[hearty walrus]

ea isn't out until the 6th

[final ocean]

oh so no announcement of the f2p access yet? was going to buy the ea but if I cant play with friends guess ill have to hold off

[hearty walrus]

full release will be at least 6 months away, at most a year

full release will be free

[somber shard]

hello people, any idea how to get a EA key for ps5?

[ember mica]

You have to buy it when EA is released, dec 6th

sony is weird about it unfort

[warped haven]

sony is weird about a lot sadly

[mystic wagon]

Hi just came back from Hospital , How do i play this and which pack to get ?

[hallow basalt]

when I started playing, I only started thinking about it when I got to end game. before that it didnt feel restrictive.

[hearty walrus]

you can just buy the 30$ pack. ea starts on the 6th

[slate summit]

5th is overloaded with random games I currently play or played recently. It's a balance update for Rogue Trader, free dlc for Darktide with new weapons, a story update for Star Rail, and finally PoE 2 early access start.

[grand wind]

if i'm totally new to PoE and anticipating playing PoE2... is it worth picking up PoE 1 now or should I wait a week?

[hardy vigil]

Poe1 costs nothing to try except your sanity. If you want a game where you can go places in a week then how about Ravenswatch? It has wasd+mouse controls and limited scope.

[twilit flower]

There's knowledge that will transfer from PoE1 to PoE2, but there's also some new fundamental differences. IMO, it really depends on how much free time you've got for the next week ...

[hardy vigil]

If you want to appreciate game design then learning poe1 could be worth. But for learning poe2, you have to unlearn things from poe1...

[grand wind]

thank you both! i think i'll give it a try then, it's also only a 40gb download

is Steam the prefered launcher of the community?

[hardy vigil]

A lot of people play with standalone client traditionally, but there are lots of steam players too.

[twilit flower]

If you want to play on SteamDeck/Linux🐧 Steam's the easiest way. Steam also will track hours played ... if you're interested in that type of thing

[hardy vigil]

I've seen so many requests to have poe2 standalone client track hours. 😁

[grand wind]

is character data saved / shared between clients?

[hardy vigil]

Character data is on the server. I don't remember where all the settings are: anything on the server would be shared. But if saved in the client then not.

[fossil rain]

Between classic poe launcher, steam? yes. console? no

[grand wind]

ok perfect

you guys have been a big help! i'm sure i'll be back with more questions before long hehe

[twilit flower]

I wish it'd be more "time in an instance" and time played overall. That way people could compare more "playing the game" vs. "sitting in hideout trading" 🙃

[hardy vigil]

that's me, leaving games running while I prepare food or go to sauna

One million hours played!

[pallid pulsar]

can early access holder invite anyone else for open beta? (not couch co-op)

[twilit flower]

If you've a spare key, yes. More information about that is here on the FAQ: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3587981

[stuck thistle]

Is there a list on what is actually planned? (not including the obvious ones) like:
Transfigured Gems
Awakened Gems
Empower, Enhance, and Enlighten gems
influenced items
Fractured items
Crafting bench (which was going to be implemented later on, if I heard right)
Leagues that are planned (we already have Sanctum, Ultimatum, Delirium, Ritual, Breach, Essence, Expedition, Strongbox, and Shrines)

I heard 2 league mechanics are coming after EA, what was it again?

[twilit flower]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Path_of_Exile_2 the System Changes section does a pretty good overview

[dire basin]

probably blight and delve of what i have heard?

[stuck thistle]

Ooo, nice thank you

[stuck thistle]

Delve is coming back too?! What the fuck nice

Anyone know what is the 3 trial? Perhaps TotA?

[twilit flower]

... blight rewards have been reworked into Trial of the Chaos God (i.e. new Ultimatium). Plus the end game is now "delve like" ... have we had an interview about Delve / Blight being confirmed back at some point? I'd like to add that to a wiki if you can provide a source.

[stuck thistle]

Ohhhhh nice

[dire basin]

i dont have source also im not sure if its a truth, i just saw someone said it :

[wintry gyro]

Has GGG confirmed if pilfering ring MTX works in poe2?

[twilit flower]

Have you not ... watched the livestream? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpIbaTXJD4g JROD and Mark go over a TON of things about the game and end game content on launch for Early Access of PoE2

[soft orbit]

iirc all that was said was delve was one of their favourites and blight wasn't off the table, nothing about them coming

[soft orbit]

heavily speculated to be ToTA ya

[stuck thistle]

I did, and I know about that, I’m asking what’s planned beyond EA

What league mechanics are coming back

What gem types are coming back

OTHER THAN what was announced

Blight was mentioned

I didn’t know about Delve

[stuck thistle]

Nice

[twilit flower]

I'd wager these sorts of questions more belong in #2┃general rather than here in #2┃new-player-in-campaign-help ...

[hardy vigil]

We've got after-acts-help for endgame, too.

[worn ruin]

I don't think they are going to do crafting bench, at least not anything like it was before. They have temporarily replaced its functionality with new ways to do gem slots and they will look into other ways players can fill gaps in their builds. But they didn't like the current system of crafting benches with the other new systems.

[twilit flower]

Yeah .... it'll be interesting there was this thread on Twitter which is captured on PoE2DB (https://poe2db.tw/us/Crafting_Bench ) which is causing some speculation.

Whether or not Runes will "replace" crafting bench mods or if there's just some other "iteration" of crafting bench ... we'll known on Dec 6th

[hardy vigil]

No, it's clear from interviews that crafting bench is out atm.

Jonathan 6 days ago about the bench having been cut: https://youtu.be/QPrCIqsNtK0?t=21163

Obviously they were still planning to have it when that EA supporter pack with crafting bench mtx boat was made.

[worn ruin]

I haven't played poe1, but based on the conversations. I think it sounds better without it, at least in the same way it was before. I do like the idea of having a bunch of ways to craft at my hideout, but I still feel like I will be able to do that to some degree with what they give us.

[spare ruin]

is poe just in general cpu and ram hungry rather than gpu

[dusky burrow]

cpu hungry yes

[spare ruin]

idk if my cpu could handle it i have an intel i5-11400h

Never played poe 1 so i dont really know how it perfomed

[thick plaza]

That's essentially bang on the recommended CPU

[lucid egret]

you can check minimum and recommended specs on steam

[rigid tangle]

I am quite hype, but I am not finding any information on when we can start the download of the game. I assume it is the same as with PoE1 league launches.

[ember mica]

There will be a pre-download a few days before launch

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3587981

[rigid tangle]

Oh, the FAQ just mentioned that they would inform us a few days before.

Yes, that.

[ember mica]

Right yeah, launch is on the 6th, so at some point between now and then haha

[meager epoch]

I'm new to PoE 2 and thinking of going for Pathfinder Ranger. The immunity to slow, ability to use skills whilst still moving fast, has more effective life flasks as well as all the poison skills seem really nice and survivable

Plus seen some very strong poison themed gems

[cedar hound]

Checked to see if i spent enough for a key.. and got a chuckle after this message.

[hearty walrus]

@tacit knot https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Path_of_Exile_2#System_changes

[tacit knot]

So i heard someone say thar we cant lower enemy resistances below 0 anymore in poe 2.

Oh sorry i didnt see that

[hardy vigil]

What they probably said is that penetration can't take resistances below 0. AFAIK we're not sure if other ways can.

[tacit knot]

Yes thats it.

Coutns for all, also physical ?

[hardy vigil]

There is no physical resistance.

[tacit knot]

If ur gonma say that doesnt exist. There is some way to lower enemy physical

.... Whatever the word is

[hardy vigil]

You can break armour. It's not clear if they can be put to negative armour.

[tacit knot]

Okay yes. Physical damage resuction

I think that sit in poe

1. Is thwt now break armour?

[hardy vigil]

There like 3 different mechanics to cover here and answer keeps getting longer. Can we just say that we don't know if any kind of physical defense reduction can take monsters into negatives or not in poe2? 😁

[tacit knot]

Yes, great

[calm oyster]

i have never played poe and was curious if you have to make a new character for every new season?

[hardy vigil]

(season = league) Yes, if you want to play the league content. You could also continue playing your old characters in standard league but the new league's content won't appear there until league is over.

Majority of players join the new leagues with new characters (in poe1). Many treat it as the best time to try new builds.

[calm oyster]

so youre saying i can play the leagues content with older characters but i have wait till the season ends ?

[hearty walrus]

you cannot play the new league with old characters

[hardy vigil]

That has been the general trend in poe1. However when the content has moved to standard, it has usually also been reworked to some extent. And not all content is worthy of going standard. (Sometimes that's to your benefit.)

Now poe2 is different in that we have 6-12 months of early access first. It won't (or may not) have actual leagues for a while. Instead it will likely do league style resets when big content patches arrive every few months. Not sure what they will do with the content between EA standard and new EA "league".

[hearty walrus]

i'm pretty sure they won't have leagues in ea?

[hardy vigil]

I expect they'll "reset" us when the new acts arrive at least. Maybe when new classes do. They'll need testing data.

[calm oyster]

'You could also continue playing your old characters in standard league but the new league's content won't appear there until league is over." this what i was asking about because this sounds like old characters can play the new season content only after the new season has rotated so if im understanding you can play new seasons with old characters however the season content old characters can do will always be a season behind

[hearty walrus]

that's if the new league content even goes to standard

[calm oyster]

i got it how hard is it to level and grind through poe campaigns to reach the new content? never done seasons before aside from playing some diablo

[hearty walrus]

in poe 1, most experienced players take like 10 hours

however

new league content has always been accessible from the very start of the game

[calm oyster]

i was very on the fence because id love to pick game up and get throse 4 passes for my friends

[hearty walrus]

devs don't put new league stuff only at end game

[calm oyster]

thats not terrible

[hardy vigil]

I wouldn't dare to claim that the game will provide a stable playing environment during early access. It's still under development. Only half of planned classes, 33% of planned ascendancies, half of planned campaign acts are in. And engame content is still being expanded as well. They expect to take 6-12 months before full release.

Are your friends willing to give it another chance much later?

[fringe matrix]

yeah that's what I was thinking as well. If you're on the fence, the game should be free to play some time in the next ~6-12 months.

[small birch]

guys, sorry, do we know when's the standard release of the game?

if i don't buy the early access i mean

[hardy vigil]

6-12 months

[small birch]

oh, damn, tyvm

[tacit knot]

There a list with important links? Just found this one for example

https://marcoaaguiar.github.io/poe2-tree/

Important / usable

[hearty walrus]

there's barely anything out for 3rd party tools right now

altho the wiki and poe2db are good

[tacit knot]

Yea but i do see new interesting things pop up every now and then like that

Too bad no list likw the link u gave earlier

Thanks anyway

[tacit knot]

Any good YouTube sources? Good youtubers surrounding poe and data

[ember mica]

#2┃new-player-in-campaign-help message

I posted this the other day in regards to useful poe tools and websites. But to reiterate, none of this is available for poe 2 yet

As for youtube, i posted this in a poe 1 faq. Here are some popular build creators. not an exhaustive list by any means, but a decent roundup of trusted creators #1226706047310237838 message

as for like, "data", sirgog is pretty good about stuff like technical roundups. talks about more nitty gritty stuff

if you're looking for something specific, I could try to point you in the right direction

[tacit knot]

At the moment mainly looking for good build creators / people that post about new upcoming things reliable sources of new data like for example now poe 2 data

For example like dreamcore

Or havoc

I found these two

Ill follow sirgog

[ember mica]

gotcha yeah, dreamcore popped up for me recently, his videos are definitely a good source for fundamental poe 2 mechanics. Tbh at this point I'd say he would be your best bet for now. I'm not super invested in the youtube scene, but I know for a fact that poe 2 for a looooong time was almost like, something people actively didn't want to talk about. So a lot of youtube and livestream folks would kind of actively ignore poe 2 stuff. So it seems like a ton of them are just kinda hopping in on it now with less knowledge than a lot of people here. There are a few, like dreamcore, who seemed to really hone in on it earlier than others

People generally didn't want to talk about poe 2 for a long time becuase

1. It seemed like it wasn't coming out for an eternity
2. It was mostly only ever brought up by devs via interviews. And those interviews were usually held at the end of a league reveal livestream. And between not having much info about poe 2 at all, and also the longer the interview went, the longer it meant that patch notes weren't coming out
3. The initial playtests of poe 2 were very poorly received, as things were not only drastically different from poe 1, it was also wildly overtuned, making it so you died to almost every pack of white mobs
4. Features and stuff were also only ever discussed via livestream interviews, so there wasn't really anything to sink your teeth into

[tacit knot]

Yea i still notice it like people got kind of agitated when i asked about reveals XD they want to keep it a secret. I like the planning part tho

[ember mica]

So with all that, people kinda just didn't want to make content on poe 2, ESPECIALLY since poe 1 had a great streak of leagues coming out since the 2023 exilecon. barring necropolis of course lol

[tacit knot]

Yea lol. I will still keep playing poe 1 though.

I mean both.

Like the idea, league every 2 months

Thanks for your response and your time very clear!

[ember mica]

Haha I'm with you, if my day-to-day lets me get anywhere close to it lol

For sure! I'd def keep an eye on that list of youtube creators if you want some cool ideas. I wouldn't expect anything solid for a while, but a lot of youtubers tend to keep like, build diaries for new builds. Like "Here is what i did day 1 with this build I'm trying" and then how it evolves day-by-day. And with everything being new, there's definitely gonna be a lot of fun ideas floating around

[tacit knot]

This is the havoc video i was talking about if you are interested. https://youtu.be/chM0wUtVC50?si=fjOx_CZoe_7NUBNd

Lol you sure do type fast lol!

[ember mica]

lol hell yeah that's the kind of video people like to see

[tacit knot]

Yea im trying to create stuff aswell just for fun

Its s list of all support gems recorded during such a streamer Invitation

Where rhey cojld play for some houes

Hours

Lol ur right. They mustve had these vids for a while why do they come out w it now. Also wonder if they all recorded it lol

Oh well

[wintry slate]

only skill gems have quality now right? or is that a phantom memory lol

[sweet sphinx]

I'm a completely new player and accidentally made my witch join the settlers league instead of it being standard, I'm following Pohx's chieftain levelling guide.

Can I change my witch to standard or no? I have to do it again?

[undone sleet]

#1┃new-player-in-campaign-help

(Also you don't want to be in standard)

[sweet sphinx]

ok but i cant use stash from the witch right?

i need stash from the witch build

[undone sleet]

I'm not sure what you're asking. Stashes are shared across a given league. If it's a league starter, there's nothing you want/need from the stash to play

[sweet sphinx]

Oh... So, If my maruader and my witch are both in the same league, the stashes will share.

My bad for using the wrong channel.

[undone sleet]

No worries, mostly don't want your questions to get lost

I'm not the rules arbiter or anything

and yep, if your characters are in the same league then the stash is shared

[haughty ibex]

So having no knowledge of poe... how possible/viable is a witch summoner build themed around Ash Catchum, since we can capture any undead of later summoning

[meager epoch]

Is the Ranger the only class with a mount?

[grave cloak]

I think everyone will have this mount

Rangers are just able to shoot while riding

[verbal sapphire]

They said its only for rangers for now

[eager basin]

I don't think we know enough about how spectres will work in poe2 to say

in poe1 spectre builds are fairly viable but minions in general are quite finicky in my opinion

and you typically have a small selection of viable spectres, you don't just use whatever you come across

(not a minion player, I hate poe1 minion management, grain of salt)

[stuck thistle]

Oh sorry, will go there

[stuck thistle]

I thought I heard them talking about it, from what I've heard they were going to implement it later on (guess I need confirmation about this)

[hearty walrus]

they currently don't have any plans for a crafting bench

[stuck thistle]

Ah ok I see, alright

[fossil aurora]

when it come out?

is it free?

[hearty walrus]

early access releases on the 6th. costs 30$ to play

the full release will be free

ea is expected to last at least 6 months, at most a year

[copper inlet]

Good afternoon, the game's website has the latest pack for 480 USD, it includes: 4 early access keys, a T-shirt, and a sweatshirt. Is it possible to abandon them or not? I just don't understand why I'm in the biggest pack, paying for 4 early access keys

[hearty walrus]

you can ask support for help

[heady flax]

Hey folks I just had a couple nooby questions, this is regarding the witch 10% spell damage leech, what actually constitutes spell damage. Would minions damage count seeing as the ability to raise them is a spell? Same with the crit bonuses we get is that just for our character and not for our minions. And lastly say I used a physical attack but added supports to turn a portion of the damage into say lightning damage would that now be spell damage
Cheers

[hearty walrus]

minions are separate entities

only the part of the skill that raises them is a spell

[heady flax]

Copy that, only things that specifically state minions or ally's counts towards them

[hearty walrus]

actually, in poe2, the minion gems don't have the spell tag at all

wait...

ok

permanent minions dont' have spell tag

[heady flax]

That's what I'm getting confused about it says spell and then some have spell as a tag

[hearty walrus]

temp minions do

like raise zombie

[heady flax]

Yeah that's what I'm confused about

[hearty walrus]

still, only the summoning part is a spell

the minions themselves aren't your spell damage

[heady flax]

Sweet good to know, and the part about changing damage types becoming spell damage if it was a sole physical damage attack?

[hearty walrus]

as it works in poe1, spells and attacks are mutually exclusive

[wild hedge]

Can i use any skill while in demon form? Is there even an animation for melee demon?

[heady flax]

Rip so even if I socketed somthing that adds like a lightning effect its still a attack and not spell damage

[hearty walrus]

depends on the wording of the support gem

[heady flax]

What would an example be where it would be spell damage

[hearty walrus]

oh sorry. you can't change an attack to a spell

[heady flax]

Rip, I was hoping I could like take a monk ability and socket some kind of elemental damage to trigger the leech

[hearty walrus]

attacks can deal damage of any type, physical, elemental, and chaos

so can spells

[heady flax]

Oh I get you

[hearty walrus]

elemental damage is not exclusive to spells

[heady flax]

That makes sense putting it like that

Thank you for the help

[hearty walrus]

that is a good question. granted, they did say that spells get bonuses in demon form, not melee

[wild hedge]

Ouch..

That'd be dissapointing and go against their "endless possibilities" philosophy..

[hardy vigil]

Currently, transformations can't wield weapons. Demon form would be restricted from using skills that require one.

[wild hedge]

Well, my dream build is shattered then

Ouch.

[heady flax]

i see flails mentioned in the passsive tree does that mean they will drop

[grizzled isle]

They won't be available at the start of the early access, but they'll be added at some point before full release

[heady flax]

thank ya

[grizzled isle]

Probably when the templar is added, i think the intention is to add signature weapon types with each new class

[heady flax]

that makes sense,
does anyone know if this passive bloodmagic
would mean any skills relating to mana regen or gain mana would actually cause you to gain life ?

[grizzled isle]

No, it only transforms mana costs, not other mana mechanics

[heady flax]

damn, that would of been cool

[grizzled isle]

You'd need to invest into life regen/leech, and ignore mana entirely

Blood Magic really simplifies some builds, it can be powerful to focus on one thing

[heady flax]

Im really curious how it would work with the blood witch, im guessing if a cast cost 10 life 10 mana it would now be 20 life after this

[steady sand]

I was also looking at bloodmagic and how it mixes with bloodmage passives

Wondering how the interaction of Bloodmagic would be to this https://assets-ng.maxroll.gg/wordpress/image-830.png

[soft orbit]

seems like it would do nothing

[hearty walrus]

depending on the order of operations, either blood magic will effectively double the life cost, or sanguimancy won't give any extra cost

[steady sand]

Yeah I been trying to work it out but seems wierd to have bloodmagic in skill tree that basically gives everyone in the game the same ability as a bloodmage main passive?

Or am I missing something 😄

[hearty walrus]

blood magic means you dont worry about mana at all

sanguimancy still has to worry about mana

[steady sand]

Oh so maybe if you stack both you can have Sanguimancy without the mana cost, only the life cost through bloodmagic.

That might be pretty sick

I wonder what happens if you remove all mana through blood magic and then have an item or skill that is based off maximum mana? It would just not work at all or base it off 0 mana so would get zero? 😄

[sterile thistle]

Hi is the “soulcore” weapon effect in the thaumaturge pack going to be available for every weapon?

[hearty walrus]

weapon effects should apply to every weapon

[heady flax]

Does anyone know if leech applys to dots

[grizzled isle]

An instance of leech can only be created from a hit, not a dot.
There are some effects that cause regeneration proportionate to a dot effect in poe1, i'm not sure if those are going to be replicated in poe2 though.

[noble spade]

are weapon effects mtx only

[hardy vigil]

Are you trying to ask if they're cosmetics or if they're paid? Community uses mtx for both purposes.

[river flint]

what are these again? are they mentioned in the endgame content reveal?

[hearty walrus]

charms

they're replacing utility flasks

[hardy vigil]

Charms. They were probably already explained in the class section of the livestream.

[vivid totem]

.Hey all I'm totally new to Poe and looking to jump in this week on poe2. I'll try to search answers before I post here.

Do my friends have to be in the same league to play alongside me?

[hearty walrus]

yes

[craggy gyro]

Hello all pls will we be able to create a guild, day 1 of the early access ?

[spare ruin]

what is league and standard/hardcore

[hearty walrus]

!leagues

[desert sedge]

Temporary leagues typically last 3 months, contain a unique new mechanic and do not allow players access to their existing characters and items. Most players play the temporary leagues.

Standard is the permanent league and has been running since Path of Exile's launch. There are many more items in the economy, deflating their value. The population is lower than the temporary leagues. If you can only play a small amount of time per week and want to go very far in the game, this can be a good game mode.

If you are a new player, it is strongly recommended to play in the current temporary league.

For details on what happens when a temporary league ends, see https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2091028

The Settlers league starts:
PC - <t:1722024000:R> on <t:1722024000:F>
Console - <t:1722024000:R> on <t:1722024000:F>

This information was last updated on July 17th The above should show in your local time if you have the right timezone set with your discord account.

[spare ruin]

can you play standard and temp league at the same time

[ember mica]

Yeah, but not on the same character. You'll have to make new characters for each

I'd say like 95% or more of the playerbase plays on whatever the current league is. Standard is a kind of just a graveyard. At the end of every league, everything from that league is ported over to standard

To answer your other question. Softcore you can think of the "normal" way to play. If you die, you character goes back to town, you give whatever you were doing another shot. In hardcore, if your character dies, it gets sent to softcore standard

[spare ruin]

so basically everytime the temp league reset its transfer all item to standard

[ember mica]

Yeah, so technically not deleted, but basically ignored by the vast majority of the playerbase.

New leagues drop every 3-4 months, and each new league everyone starts from a clean slate. Of course you keep your mtx and stash tabs that you bought. But the entire contents of your stash, and all your characters, get sent over to standard

[spare ruin]

so basically theres no point playing the standard league

[hardy vigil]

According to people who played only standard, the econonmy was still alive.
Hard to predict what happens regarding that in poe2 EA though.

[ember mica]

That's what I'd say personally. but there are a few people who play it. It's basically a permanent realm where nothing gets deleted. So if, for whatever reason, you wanted to play a character for years on end; you can do it there

[spare ruin]

let say i played temp league and then it ended. all of my item and character will be transferto standard so can i continue my progress in the standard league?

[ember mica]

yeah if you wanted to. But it can get a bit tricky. Each new league features a new mechanic. Some fun new gameplay element that usually has ways to increase player power. Those mechanics don't always go "core" (added to the base game). So if you were in a league and doing whatever that new mechanic was, you won't be able to continue doing that mechanic in standard if it doesn't go core

For instance, poe 1 had a league where weapons had their own passive tree in them. It did not go core, so once that league ended, everything was ported to standard, including the weapons with the passive trees. But since it didn't go core, there was no way to continue progressing with that weapon, it's kinda like, frozen in time

[noble spade]

asking if you can get weapon effects by playing game or if they are store only

[spare ruin]

ok i understand now thanks for the explaination

[hardy vigil]

They've been used as event rewards at least. Currently running Settlers of Kalguur league has weapon effect as the first reward of doing league challenges (achievements): https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Settlers_league#Challenges_and_rewards

[ember mica]

There are challenges that come with every league that offer cosmetics as rewards. Basically like an achievement list that lasts for a whole league. Those cosmetics are made for the challenges in particular

But there's no saying whether any of those challenge cosmetics will be weapon effects or not

[noble spade]

I like mtx for things like hideouts, pets and such but for player gear i just hate it removing the visual progression as your gear changes and would prefer a transmog esque system where you can just use appearances from gear you actually earned.. but i get that POE is f2p so not many options.

[spare ruin]

quick one how about stash are there permanent in the temp league or you have to buy stash everytime the league reset

[ember mica]

The way I see it, the actual gear in poe 2 actually looks great. So there's less incentive to use mtx overall. Compared to the trash cans that poe 1 gives you lol

[ember mica]

Yeah anything you buy with real money is around forever. You'll always have your stash tabs, but it's not like the stuff inside them carries over to the new league, they still get cleared out

[spare ruin]

okey thanks

[hearty walrus]

you also just need to buy things once to have it in both games