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[plain lynx]

I can use capslock all the same if I ever need it

But dont have to waste an entire key on smth I rarely use

[celest bay]

I don't understand caps lock either... I don't even use it in SQL, which I don't understand why everyone is fixated on making it all in caps...

[elfin elm]

i just moved caps to fn1 layer and moved fn2 to my main layer

[normal stream]

i just completely removed it

never need it anyway

[elfin elm]

apparently it has a function on mac if you hold it down for a few ms

not sure what though

[lethal grotto]

What is the case foam situation like?

[buoyant heart]

what do u mean

[lethal grotto]

Is there some that comes with the 60HE?

[buoyant heart]

yes

2layers below the pcb

[lethal grotto]

And is it between the plate and the pcb?

Ah gotcha

[buoyant heart]

and one between the pcb and toppplate

[lethal grotto]

Cool. Thanks for the quick response.

[buoyant heart]

https://imgur.com/gallery/BxUK22l

if u wanna browse a disassembly

[lethal grotto]

Super helpful. Thanks again.

[hollow steppe]

@ripe prawn did you use the foam that came with the 60he for the blade60?

[ripe prawn]

No. Used the KBDFans foam. I built my Blade over a year ago so I’m sorry I don’t remember if it came with the case or the PCB or a la carte.

[hollow steppe]

do you think the wooting 60he foam will fit? it should, right?

[ripe prawn]

You can use whatever you want. You can def reuse the 60he foam. Just experiment. You can try nothing/polyfill/Killmat/silicone. You don’t actually need to use anything to fill the space. It’s just for sound.

[wintry sierra]

round two on my 60he on the 9th

[hollow steppe]

what do you mean?

[wintry sierra]

My 60he came broken, port was off the pcb and a lot of other things. It was a shipping issue, they handle shipping horribly and put my keyboard into a bag instead of shipping it in its box

[celest bay]

that's really sad

[normal stream]

that sucks

[autumn parrot]

so I just ordered the KDBFans Tofu60 in black, let's see how it is 😄

[ancient pelican]

The PCBA is coated for water resistance, but the USB port and the programming header needs to be uncoated.

[hollow steppe]

congrats! I hope you like it

can you no longer buy the avr version of the keyboard?

[unreal venture]

oo....transparent sort of

[sly hollow]

best part is

no issues when installing them

no flipping around switches

and these are cherry profile

[unreal venture]

yep yep!

[buoyant heart]

dont look like cherries to me

but like keycaps

[dusky silo]

U ruined that keyboard with those keycaps ngl

The icons are cringe

[sly hollow]

different strokes for different folks I guess, I personally love them.

[dusky silo]

If the circles on the keys and icons for the keys weren’t there it would be fine

[sly hollow]

oh

that's the transparency, honesty it's not bad when you're actaully using the keyboard and using the leds. for me it's hardly noticeable

[hallow sphinx]

Those caps are awesome dude

Got a pic with the LEDs on?

[sly hollow]

let me get one right now

it gonna look a bit weird but for my needs with the keeb I don't mind since I use the led as a indicator of what mode i'm using anyways

@hallow sphinx another top down shot with the led on

[hallow sphinx]

Damn I didn't know those caps had transparent slots

Pretty awesome

[sly hollow]

there's a tripleshot version of the alphas

let me get a pic

@hallow sphinx

[sly hollow]

those little slots I'm guessing are the holes left by the injection mold

I don't mind honesty

[hallow sphinx]

Hiragana is so pretty mmh

[sly hollow]

alextos has a video with the tripleshot alphas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ph8p5SZoQY

@hallow sphinx

[hollow steppe]

those keycaps are awesome, they look really good on the 60he

[sly hollow]

thx and the best part is there's no interference so I can use north face switch position

even through these are cherry caps

@hollow steppe I just got a tofu60 with o rings to do a o ring mount for the board.

[hollow steppe]

im still waiting for my 60he cuz it's sea freight. but i ordered the blade60

i was debating between the tofu60 and the blade60 for a while but decided to go with the blade60

[sly hollow]

@hollow steppe I prefer the straight clean top edge of the tofu honesty but to each their own like I said before

[hollow steppe]

@sly hollow i personally just felt like i see the tofu60 a lot and it is very clean and very nice, i just wanted something different thats all

[sly hollow]

true that

[hollow steppe]

show me your board when you're finished, i'd love to see it @sly hollow

[sly hollow]

Yeah I show a pic once everything comes together

the cable and hiragana tripleshot keycaps I was about but the shipping cost $20 each

[hollow steppe]

is that all thats missing?

[normal stream]

i think i finally figured out what to do with the capslock key

a dedicated mute button

and perhaps open the file browser when holding with mod tap

[sly hollow]

for me yeah, I mean I can go without the keycaps and just get the cable

[hollow steppe]

@sly hollow is everything else assembled?

[sly hollow]

well rn i'm waiting on the tofu and the o rings

[hollow steppe]

ohhh okay okay, when is that coming?

[sly hollow]

in around a week from not

*now

[hollow steppe]

im waiting for all of my stuff rn lol

[sly hollow]

big mood

[rustic wadi]

i use it for 2nd layer and it also swaps wasd for arrow keys

[umbral totem]

It’s to allow the legends plastic to flow so it can make a complete circle.

[next flare]

On kb i prefer katakana less squiggly lines

[undone owl]

Hello my friends did we get some new keycaps in the future?

[plain lynx]

bro setting right shift, alt, ctrl and fn to modtap arrowkeys is goated

so u basically get ur arrow keys back

[normal stream]

yeah but it sucks if you want to hold the arrow key down for a bit

i just moved the fn key and did it like this

never use those keys anyway

[elfin elm]

i can't exist without my right shift

I just use Caps as Fn2 and mapped ctrl to spacebar for full one-handed navigational controls

can keep my right hand on the mouse

[pine turtle]

i use my right shift less than scroll lock

and thats saying smth

[normal stream]

yeah thats not a bad solution except i find the capslock key kind of hard to reach with my pinky

oh thats fn2, never mind

[normal stream]

i cant wait to lube the shit out of all these switches

[hollow steppe]

give us a sound test when you do it @normal stream

please 🙏🏻

[pine turtle]

oh btw

[pine turtle]

this

i never heard the difference

mayeb that could be interesting on the page? @gloomy pulsar

having a comparison

because why would i lube the switches or buy the kit

[hollow steppe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9yI-YoRnGs&ab_channel=chrisP

this is the only sound test i've heard with the lubed switches

[unreal venture]

oo so deep sounding

[hollow steppe]

they sound like they'd feel mushy

idk

[pine turtle]

thats interesting

[pine turtle]

yeah

i have the same feeling from that sound too

[normal stream]

yeah that video is great

i gotta have that sound

[plain lynx]

on the rare isntances that i need to do that

i cna hold down fn

and then uuse the default arrow keys

much better than getting rid of my right shift control alt and function for soem arrow keys

[hollow steppe]

if you've done a case swap with your 60he, can you show me? I'd love to see

@anyone

[uncut light]

^

@hollow steppe

[sweet condor]

👀

[sly hollow]

SoonTM

Gotta wait for my tofu

[eternal sleet]

Tofu gang

[autumn shore]

Who long it take to Departure to destination country with air freight?

[tulip sage]

Some more pictures

[autumn parrot]

tofu case ?

[tulip sage]

It's the cheap KBDFANS low profile aluminium one...

[normal stream]

how does it sound in an aluminium case?

[tulip sage]

Sound did not change much, just a bit less hollow than the stock case i would say...Still need to lube my switches, cause it seems mine have basically no lube in them.

Also i changed the stock stabs, cause they were not good enough for my taste.
And clear stabs look obviously better 😉

[tired cove]

has anyone changed the springs without having any issues because they are magnetic

[misty pond]

I have my 60he

[topaz leaf]

holy sh*t they have their 60HE

[unreal venture]

OMG! They have their 60HE!

[misty pond]

Oh no I got acknowledged by Doge but at least I got acknowledged by Lana, so I guess this is a neutral day

[topaz leaf]

fuck I forgot I don't like this one

I do not acknowledge you

begone

[buoyant heart]

just waiting for the beauty shot now

pls put some roses on the desk 😛

like this

https://i.imgur.com/C9NJZaX.jpeg

[misty pond]

Lol you did that?

[buoyant heart]

no i wish

was the first guide to tape mod a wooting one

https://imgur.com/a/E0jup#otsFaWj

[misty pond]

Thats so mean

[buoyant heart]

and foam fill

cause that wasnt a thing on w1 and w2

and spring swap but no lube apparently

[misty pond]

Oh, interesting

[buoyant heart]

https://vimeo.com/267758613 https://vimeo.com/267761802

comparison vids

first is stock

second is lubed and all

(different guy btw)

but same base mod

[misty pond]

Thats pretty cool but I can barely keep my eyes open, I'm gonna go to sleep

[topaz leaf]

it's midday

wtf man

did you not sleep at all last night?

[misty pond]

I choose when I sleep man

[topaz leaf]

yeah me neither

[buoyant heart]

i wish i could do that

[misty pond]

I wake up in evening sometimes

[buoyant heart]

i wish

[paper light]

i have finally laid my hand on the keyboard and i am absolutely loving it!

[ripe prawn]

Was on the fence about lubing the Lekker switches. The recent Gateron CJ switches stock/dry for example feel equivalent to a hand lubed switch. But I agree with @umbral totem update from a few months back. Lubing the switches and tuning the stabs made a WORLD of difference to sound/feel.

[dusty mica]

Finally got the last piece of the puzzle 🤩

[topaz leaf]

MT3 Camillo
classy

[dusty mica]

😏

[topaz leaf]

I happen to have a set as well lol

my only gripe is that it's ABS

everything else is perfect

[dusty mica]

These are pretty great quality ABS tbh

[topaz leaf]

yep

but it'll still shine up and feel oily given enough use

[hollow steppe]

https://www.amazon.com/Akko-Black-Silver-Keycap-Set/dp/B09RWQJPBT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=34I9OK2YVHYCA&keywords=asa%2Bkeycap%2Bset&qid=1656972708&s=electronics&sprefix=asa%2Bkeyca%2Celectronics%2C81&sr=1-1&th=1

these sets are really good quality for the price. they look like sa but they're the height of oem with the sa shape if that makes sense. and they're doubleshot pbt so no shine

[normal stream]

yeah not bad

except i cant stand non-shine through caps on a backlit board 😦

[topaz leaf]

nah

depends on the board

and keycaps

I got green lighting with my KAT Cyberspace and it looks DOPE

[normal stream]

pix?

[topaz leaf]

...

y u make me do dis

[normal stream]

lol no worries

[topaz leaf]

it looks a lot more green irl

also has way less bloom

[normal stream]

woa

[topaz leaf]

is a shit photo but proves the point

[normal stream]

yeah that is pretty cool

thanks for the picture 🙂

[sly hollow]

Mhmm I wonder

should I go all out on my board and hand lube the switches

[topaz leaf]

yes

the difference it makes to the sound is worth it

stock...it's so-so

but when properly lubed...it sounds delicious

truly lekker

[sly hollow]

mhmm

[pine turtle]

never liked the blank keycaps on the images

but irl they look pretty dope

[sly hollow]

I'll try out gummy mount on my tofu i'm getting + tape mod before I resort to hand lubing cause that will be a bitch and it will take a while

@topaz leaf

[topaz leaf]

#archived_fortnite_double_movement

😉

[sly hollow]

ooo whoops lol

I didn't realize I wanted to ping ya for my message lol

[normal stream]

my only regret is that it doesnt have any of the cool stickers the original case had

[sly hollow]

oooo lekkar what case and keycaps?

[topaz leaf]

looks like a tofu and GMK Laser

[normal stream]

case is from kbd fans their usual case idk exactly what its called

[sly hollow]

tofu

[normal stream]

is it worth lubing the switches?

[sly hollow]

I mean

for the sound yes

for smoothness no

[normal stream]

theyre already really smooth, right

[sly hollow]

cause they're contactless

[sly hollow]

bingo

[normal stream]

so does relubing require any other technique/knowledge or is it literally the exact same thing as other switches

and how about removing the switch from the keyboard, just pull off like usual?

[topaz leaf]

easier than other switches, no contacts to worry about

[topaz leaf]

it is hotswap

[normal stream]

wait the keyboard is hotswap??

[topaz leaf]

just be careful, as the lekkers actually have the plate fixing tabs offset

a flaw I'll constantly pester them to sort out

[sly hollow]

yeah you didn't see the marketing lol

[normal stream]

so you can put other switches in it?

[topaz leaf]

or they could just sell lekker compatible switch removers

[topaz leaf]

no

you can remove the switches, PCB is still only compatible with lekkers

and other HE switches maybe

not that there are any out there

[normal stream]

tbh the only thing i really knew about it is the adjustable actuation and rapid trigger and tachyon mode, and i knew those would be godly for a game like valorant

[topaz leaf]

Keystone still hasn't materialised, H1 Hera looks like crap

[normal stream]

can i use a different pcb plate? like a PC plate or brass

or something

[sly hollow]

Yeah I fucking agree with that including csgo bro

feels so nice

fuckkkk

I want my tofu now

[normal stream]

i had a 1 mm actuation set of switches before and the movement is insane, it feels like the keyboard is reading my mind when i was to move, only problem is you have to go back up to 1 mm to unregister the press

[sly hollow]

Ah I set both my rapid trigger and actuation to 0.3

for all fps games that require strafing and movement

[normal stream]

i have 0.4 actuation and 0.1 rapid trigger right now

[sly hollow]

In Apex and Titanfall 2 my Tap Strafes are alot more clean with it

[normal stream]

but 2 mm on ultimate style keys like x for valorant

also yeah

tapping for minimum movement is unmatched you can do the tiniest movements with this keyboard, and i always felt like my movement was crap after a long break on valorant but with this keyboard i always have good movement

i think its cause 2 mm or non rapid trigger boards just have a warm up time required to relearn all the micro delays that come with lower actuation

[sly hollow]

ayo what lube do I get for the lekkar switches?

[normal stream]

probably krytox 205g0?

[pine turtle]

there is gonna be a lube kit from wooting

that also has the krytox

[sly hollow]

oh fuck mind linking me to that then

[pine turtle]

it should be very soon

its not yet out

but should be out this month

it has 2 types of lube

[sly hollow]

any pictures of how it looks like?

[pine turtle]

not yet but the wooting lube kit has a lube for stabs and krytox for switches

and blank:// lube set has 2 brushes, switch pulller, switch opener

[sly hollow]

my god

[pine turtle]

no pricing yet but together it should be max $25 or so (really an approximation)

just saying its not gonna be $50 😄

[sly hollow]

thank wooting for removing the hassel by including everything together

🙏

also I just got a new cable for my 60 he

and with that my keeb is down

*done

[pine turtle]

also

there should be a shipping or some other discount when bought together

AND you can get the springs if you wish (only for people who want the 50g springs)

and then open the switch

lube it all

swap the spring

and close it

and they also teach you to take care of the keyboard that way and kinda get into it

i love the approach

[sly hollow]

Damn

Wooting going the extra mile

👏

[pine turtle]

yeah its lovely

cant wait for my 60HE

wondering if i should also get the 50g springs too

but probably not as i kinda like the 60g

[sly hollow]

I gotten used to the 60 gram springs honesty so I probably not going to swap

[pine turtle]

yeah

[hollow steppe]

do you have the tofu case?

[sly hollow]

not yet I just brought the rest of the parts to fully customized my 60he, all I have to do is wait for the parts to come in

[hollow steppe]

damn it, I'm really excited to see your build

[sly hollow]

yeah it's going to be a clean black build but the leds should make it pop a bit

@hollow steppe @pine turtle @normal stream

[normal stream]

shiet i might have to get some o rings....

[hollow steppe]

i ordered my blade60 from mechkeys

[sly hollow]

yeah they're really easy to install

[hollow steppe]

are they legit? i was having concerns

[sly hollow]

yeah they are

[hollow steppe]

okay cool

they have rlly good prices

[alpine dune]

End game gaming keyboard for me

[topaz leaf]

SOURCE

svp

I really need to know all the bits und pieces and what to expect as far as each individual component

[sly hollow]

I know I just got my new caps but Fuck

this looks so good

[pale veldt]

Just got mine 3 days ago just haven't opened it

[ripe prawn]

I do think lubing made a significant improvement to smoothness for these Lekker switches. Despite no contact leaf, it’s not contactless. The rails of the stem and lower housing is often the contact point most responsible for the scratchiness, not the metal leaf. The Lekker while great stock, I’d still put behind a CJ/Oil King or even KS-9. You got two extra switches in the box to experiment with. If you don’t find a notable difference, then yeah, don’t bother.

[sly hollow]

Ig i can do a small attempt

[misty pond]

I ordered a wrist rest alongside my keyboard but it seems it wasn't in the package despite it being specified on it.

[heady sphinx]

Were you able to fit the included bottom case foam into that case? Or did you have to leave it out? Also that's a tofo60 right?

[pine turtle]

their streams

they said it on a stream

[rustic rain]

if I do that I just have to remove the screws from the wooting and put the hole thing in the new case right?

[hallow sphinx]

Yeah pretty much, let the silicone set and then transfer the module to the new case

[rustic rain]

ok nice, which silicone did you use?

[hallow sphinx]

Just some set from Amazon, give me a sec

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08TTQ6YRR?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

It was this set but really you can use anything similar, I imagine most of them to be pretty much identical

[rustic rain]

thanks now i just need to know how much i should use 😄

[alpine dune]

Yes it’s a tofu and I used my own foam. You should definitely be able to use the case foam inside the stock case though

[umbral totem]

Make sure to contact support

[sly hollow]

Yay!

Black on Black Cable gonna look sexy with my keeb

Now im waiting for my tofu

[ripe prawn]

Has anyone had any success with swapping out plates?

[buoyant heart]

no one tried and ull prob have to find one with standoffs so u can screw the assembly back together

[ripe prawn]

I'm partial to POM/PC, but I also feel like maybe the guys in the past may have responded to whether too much flex might throw off the hall effect sensors on the PCB? I wonder if FR4 as a compromise between structure and a softer feel (while also being easy to design/fabricate) may still be feasible to work with the engineering of the PCB?

[unreal venture]

Finally
Someone noticed the icon art on the PCB!

[uncut light]

Have to say

S is the best

What a Chad

[hazy thistle]

Caps is somethin'

[mossy garnet]

RShift ftw

[sick sequoia]

Mekanisk Fjell R5 compatible.

[gusty shell]

I will never not fully disassemble a wooting keeb.

[unreal venture]

Hehe xd

[gusty shell]

I like that we are given extra pcb mount screws.

[buoyant heart]

isnt it only 1?

[sick sequoia]

Wooting 60HE heavy 😮

[hollow steppe]

oo very nice, I like it

[hollow steppe]

that case has a brass weight in it, right?

[sick sequoia]

Yes

[hollow steppe]

nice! love how it looks :)

[sick sequoia]

I like it, but it's a bit expensive, but I'm Norwegian so I wanted a Norwegian case 😄

[hollow steppe]

understandable 😂. do you plan on keeping the stock keycaps on?

[sick sequoia]

Nope, I want norwegian keycaps too, just gotta find them. They aren't sold anymore

GMK Evil Dolch

[hollow steppe]

oh my those are expensive

[sick sequoia]

Ye, I actually bought a rip off set of them, but I do want the real deal 😄

[next flare]

But your wooting is Ansi?

[sick sequoia]

Yes, so is the set. Well the set technically isn't Norwegian layout, but the designer of it is Norwegian.

[next flare]

Alright. Got a little confused. When you said you wanted a Norwegian kb and didn't have an iso layout

[sick sequoia]

Those GMK Evil Dolch aren't sold anymore tho and people sell it for 350 dollars

That would make my Wooting:
200 for the keyboard
300 for the case
100 for the cable
50 for the lubing kit I got
and 350 for the Keycaps

1000 Dollars.

https://tenor.com/view/say-what-dunno-shrug-john-krasinski-idk-gif-16557956

[topaz leaf]

tbh, the Fjell and GMK caps are way more than needed

the stock case is pretty solid already

that and GMK really is 90% hype 10% usable keycap

they'll shine up way too fast

and buying scalped GMK is always a piss poor idea

but hey, could do way worse for the money

[eternal sleet]

I do like how they look but when it comes to usage, And problematic packaging no thanks

[minor tide]

That looks really nice

What keycaps?

[sick sequoia]

The ones on the keyboard in the picture?

Those are the included ones.

[minor tide]

Hmm for some reason they looked dark blue to me lol

[sick sequoia]

Probably my lighting 😄

[tired cove]

lubing right its actually so worth it, totally different keyboard

[umbral totem]

Be careful that custom cable that is very long (such as coiled ones) are known to not be able to supply steady voltage and can cause input issues when keyboard has high brightness % (drawing a lot of power, impacting voltage)

[sly hollow]

ah good thing I brought a straight cable so at least it should reduce the chances of that to happen. but thank you for the heads up calder

❤️

[sick sequoia]

I almost don't understand how it can get better than outside the box. Like it so much, but waiting with lubing till I get new springs.

Or maybe I should just do it 🤔🤔

[gusty shell]

theres a lot of foam internally

Quick question,
Is there a special box for founders editions?

[buoyant heart]

no all boxes are the same

the gift means you got your name on the box design

same way the signature edition pcb design is printed on all future 60he pcbs

[buoyant heart]

the topplate assembly is the heaviest

[gusty shell]

OMG i actually did not realize that, thats actually cooler than i thought

time to find me

[celest bay]

that's a really great idea tbh 🙂 If I ever do a product I will steal that idea 😛 Now it's time to think of a product to produce 😄

[buoyant heart]

pls tell me what u thought those names on the box where

[gusty shell]

I was so excited i didnt even see they were names ha

https://tenor.com/view/sick-cody-ko-wade-the-real-bros-of-simi-valley-are-you-sick-gif-17001810

[buoyant heart]

u cut that open like a wild caveman i see

[gusty shell]

https://tenor.com/view/kirino-oreimo-box-cutter-knife-serious-gif-7514163

me

[buoyant heart]

i also use boxcutters

but i usually cut where theres a void so i dont cut the box and only the wrap

[sick sequoia]

@merry heron Prolly cause of this

[merry heron]

Ye but check the brightness thing #archived_helpdesk_for_keyboards

[sick sequoia]

Ye, I will. Thanks for the tip

[rich dirge]

I just ripped it off

https://tenor.com/view/unwrap-present-christmas-nintendo64-christmasmorning-gif-5631572

[tired cove]

i did it because springs are so easy to install

and yeah it gets waaaaay better with lubing it right, like night and day difference

out of the box is good but lubing is on a whole another level

[sick sequoia]

Probably gonna do it too.

[vivid tusk]

Can confirm that the 60HE fits inside a BBOX60 Cybersapce case with no issues at all

Can also confirm that it fits inside a ducky case (ducky Bon voyage 60% for specifics)

The foam isn’t stuck down so you can repurpose the foam layer underneath the PCB/plate and move it from case to case as long as they’re standard tray mount 60%s

[mossy garnet]

Damn

That looks sexy

[vivid tusk]

It was worth it, I think, lmao

I was worried because of how hollow the case is but it actually sounds really good

Still super quiet but not muted which is a nice balance so my wife doesn't hear me going ham on my keyboard during apex

Took way too long though I spent 6 hours modding everything, from stabilisers to lubing switches

[random dust]

beautiful

[random dust]

Awesome, I'll add those cases to the list.

[hallow sphinx]

DUDE do you have cyberspace caps aswell?

[vivid tusk]

I was about to have them shipped out when they arrived to my proxy.

Then the proxy put out a PSA about the quality of the keycaps that arrived

[hallow sphinx]

Is keyreative really THAT bad? Like I've heard KAT milkshake was kinda rough, and I've seen some pretty bad looking pictures of the issues but surely there HAVE to be some good looking sets too

[vivid tusk]

Let’s just say ulliam sold his discord and ghosted everyone essentially

He’s for all intents and purposes MIA

[hallow sphinx]

Is that the guy from keyreative?

[vivid tusk]

the designer of the set

[hallow sphinx]

Ohhhh

Oh well that sucks pretty bad

I was close to importing cyberspace recently since some proxies still have kits, but then I stumbled upon the QC clusterfuck that this set seems to be

Which is a shame because the raw alphas are so so good looking

[vivid tusk]

Yea I know 😦 I was so excited for it

[hallow sphinx]

I suddenly don't feel half as bad as before for not importing

[vivid tusk]

Absolute nightmare of a group buy and not the first horror story

Honestly most group buys have issues but this one

Was special. Truly a mess

[hallow sphinx]

Lead time was what, like 2 years I read somewhere ?

[sly hollow]

so

usb hub doesn't work well with tachyeon mode

but the cable doesn't reach to my mine pc lol

[buoyant heart]

turn down the brightness

to like 65%

then try again

[sly hollow]

ah it works now lol

thx

[buoyant heart]

i assume the hub isnt powered

[hollow steppe]

looks very nice :o

[sly hollow]

Still prefer my cable to be hooked to my pc directly but for now this will do

and now I shall wait for the case

[hallow sphinx]

Not usually a fan of those thick screw connectors on cables usually, but the matte black makes the whole thing really awesome

[sly hollow]

yeah I thought I wouldn't like it myself but I was soo wrong with how clean everything looks

space cable btw if you're interested

[hallow sphinx]

I'll keep it in mind but I'm pretty happy with my hifi snake oil style cable rn, fits my build I think

[sly hollow]

speaking of hifi snake oil cable I'm been thinking to get a real nice $100 cable from a friend of mine who owns his own cable company

for my iems

[hallow sphinx]

Ohh that's nice

[hallow sphinx]

Model?

[sly hollow]

Blessing 2 Dusk

[hallow sphinx]

Niice, they seem like a great buy

I thought I would go for those for a while but I think I'll save up for variations instead

[sly hollow]

rn i'm waiting for a friend of mine to send his practically unused cloudlifter to me but he hasn't contacted me back yet after I sent him the $100

monkaS

[hallow sphinx]

kinda sus idk man

[sly hollow]

If anything

Paypal return thing should help

[buoyant heart]

if he sent it to a friend or family member he prob wont get it back

pretty sure they only help with actual payments made to sales through paypal

[sly hollow]

monka bro

big monka

[autumn parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUtldJ39jKg

Wooting 60 HE - New Latency KING

[buoyant heart]

ew german

[autumn parrot]

🙂

[buoyant heart]

german yt is dead

[autumn parrot]

haha 😄

[buoyant heart]

the video is nice and informative except for the spoken language

TAKTIL

[autumn parrot]

he make a vid in eng

[buoyant heart]

fuck im dead

[pine turtle]

czechs say TACTIKAL

for tactile

which means a completely different thing

[autumn parrot]

but didn't think that the Apex Pro Mini would end up in last place

[buoyant heart]

kinda expected that ngl

[pine turtle]

apex pro mini is trash

[autumn parrot]

the tofu60 case should finally come 😭

[merry heron]

idk how he measures, didnt watch

[buoyant heart]

afaik he didnt explain

[merry heron]

does that include pre-travel?

[buoyant heart]

the twohe wasnt tested in tachyon either ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[merry heron]

lol

[buoyant heart]

also that moment when the 1khz board outshines the 8khz ones

who would have guessed the khz isnt all that matters

[mossy bay]

That case feels so nostalgic to me because it looks like the clear purple gameboy advanced, what better case to use for a gaming keyboard...

[umbral totem]

He named it Wooting two HE 60 😄

[merry heron]

what a noob!

[sly hollow]

cable came in calder and now I wait for the tofu to come in

[uncut light]

Waiting for my metal slab too

[umbral totem]

Looking good

[rich dirge]

Wooting Two HE 60, lol

[autumn parrot]

yes he has made a little mistake about it

[rich dirge]

branding is hard

still get people asking for Wooting Two HE TKL all the time

[topaz leaf]

I actually have a few cyberspace kits on my 2HE

They don’t look THAT bad, they certainly aren’t perfect

But they most definitely aren’t milkshake levels lmao

I’ve heard nothing but positive stuff from kits following cyberspace

[hallow sphinx]

Awesome dude, wanna show off ?

[topaz leaf]

Already have several times

#984813170210246727 message

[fading marlin]

wouldnt say it outshines, i think the lower deviation on the huntsman red more than makes up for the higher average

though that's taking the chart completely at face value

there might be some flaws in the testing methodology that lead to a higher disparity between the 60he and the huntsman

for example, it's possible that you'd get better results for deviation on the 60he with different actuation points

[merry heron]

The higher STD of the 1khz boards is likely caused by the low sampling rate of the environment in which he's testing. Low simulation rate/fps compounds and shows as higher std for 1khz boards. Or in case of desktop - low hz of the monitor and low amount of samples

So I would pay 0 attention to the SD

[fading marlin]

monitor hz shouldn't affect comparisons between keyboards though, should it?

only absolute measurements

[merry heron]

It does

It's E2E

and LDAT

[fading marlin]

it affects the e2e result but i don't think it'd affect relative comparisons very much

[merry heron]

Why not?

[fading marlin]

and i don't see how it would disproportionately affect 1khz keyboards

[merry heron]

+-2 ms to the range of refresh range

vs .125 ms range to the refresh range

[brisk plover]

He's using LDAT with the 360 Hz Asus monitor

[merry heron]

which is huge variation

Why do you think the minimum SD of the 8khz boards is still higher than 1ms? (it's the lower bound of the monitor hz or sampling rate)

[fading marlin]

wouldnt this apply to any source of variation, instead of just polling/scanning? in which case the relative comparisons would still be accurate with enough trials, because a board with less precise inputs will always show up as being less precise regardless of whether that is because of polling/scanning or some other source of inaccuracy

[merry heron]

Sure, and you'll need ~100 samples given the monitor variation, more if you're testing in-game with sim bound sampling rate.

[fading marlin]

then it just depends on how thorough the testing was

[minor tide]

Using a monitor for sth like this is just bound to not work so well

Just E2E doesn’t matter anyway since most people have a different monitor

[fading marlin]

i don't think using a monitor/ldat invalidates your results though

as long as you do enough trials

[minor tide]

Well still it ads a rather big source of uncertainty

[merry heron]

If you want to be pedantic and apply 5% statistical significance, you'll need about ~400 samples for 0.5 ms margin of error/precision to declare anything between 2 different boards.

[minor tide]

Just have a software cache when does the signal arrive or connect it to raspberry pi and have it turn on led or send a signal when button press is detected

[pastel prawn]

What's the angle of the 60he again 6 degrees? I'm wanting to find a nice white case for it now I have my caps on the black doesn't match... Looking to keep the angle and low profile of the stock case thought if I can.

Or a colour maybe... Got some nice miami caps on it. Tai Hao caps actually very nice, except they don't doubleshot the whole key just the top so they're thinner than they could be. Still good though, only issue is spacebar is a bit hollow sounding but I have some foam coming to sort that.

[vague roost]

That sounds like an extremely accurate way of describing it

[gusty shell]

oh you will hate what i did with the rest of the box

[gusty shell]

This is adorable

[gusty shell]

this is why i love wooting

[sly hollow]

No leds

[umbral totem]

6 degree, but it all comes from the case.

[buoyant heart]

you can do that on any OS

as what matters most would be input to OS handler

since thats the route all signals go for gaming and typing etc

[minor tide]

Well yes just with raspberry pi you probably wouldn’t need an outside device to send data to. And could just directly control an LED

[buoyant heart]

that yes

[buoyant heart]

if the 60he was 4khz even it would prob be lower overall and lower stdvar

[sly hollow]

ayo what is mod tap and what does it do?

[sick sequoia]

Makes you have different input based on holding or taping a key. I have like the 5 button set to 5 if I tap and F5 when I hold.

It works suprisingly well. The hold is faster than I expected and I've never had any incorrect inputs yet

Basically it just gives you some of the benefits of a TKL in a 60% keyboard.

Like Arrow and F-Rows

[sly hollow]

may I see how you have yours set up?

[sick sequoia]

I'm at work now and we are super restricted, can't even go into the browser. Gimme a sec tho

Took this yesterday

You see the buttons that day MT

I have like the original key on Tap and the F-buttons on Hold.

And I have the other way on the arrow

Hold, cause they are mostly modifiers and tap for arrows

Works great

I changed a bit from this tho. Now I have keyboard at 1.0mm, Rapid trigger at 0.4 and WASD at 0.1mm

[sly hollow]

I see thanks bro

I can use MT for my typing profile

[sick sequoia]

Ye 👍

[sly hollow]

Yeah I use my Digital Proifle for Typing and One of my Analogue Profiles for FPS overall

[sick sequoia]

I didn't know how the analog profiles worked, so I haven't messed with it yet 😂

But I need to do something similat

Similar

[sly hollow]

I mean it techically speaking if I don't put the analogue movements on wasd

it's still on digital mode by all means

[hollow steppe]

this^

[sick sequoia]

Ye, if I buy the keycaps and a new cable, but I'm unsure about the keycaps and cable, but yes the case I use atm for it is 300 dollars

[sly hollow]

Got my mod tap set

[hollow steppe]

is it worth 300 in your opinion?

[sly hollow]

I just did arrow keys cause that's all I missed from my last keeb I used lol

[sick sequoia]

Probably not.

I got it cause it's Norwegian made and I like that.

[hollow steppe]

I got the blade60

[sick sequoia]

Once I'm done with the wooting, only I'll have this exact one 😂

Ahh nice

[sick sequoia]

I see many people talk nice about that one, you got your 60HE?

[hollow steppe]

my 60he is coming next week, I'm super excited

the case won't be here till a week after that tho

[sick sequoia]

Ohh nice, something to wait for, you gonna lube the switches?

[pastel prawn]

Thanks, it seems like most 3rd party cases are 7 degrees, not much of an increase I guess but I like the angle, it seems mostly its tofu or bust out there.

[umbral totem]

Shouldn't be end of the world difference, but if you ask me, I prefer no angle, flat, keyboard low as possible.

but that you won't be able to do with any case 😄 and I'm using stock case for now

[buoyant heart]

reminds me of the german video guy yesterday measuring e2e latency... praises wooting for being latency king and also says the ducky he has is way more ergonomic with its higher angle

here i thought no angle = good angle

[brisk plover]

I don't think he was referring to the case being angled, he was talking about the keycaps being more sculpted

Although I don't see it, aren't they also OEM profile

https://youtu.be/dUj1dL7-LYk?t=429

Yeah, found it, 07:08
He's talking about the keycaps

[buoyant heart]

ok but one can change those

[brisk plover]

Sure, but the weirdest part is that they aren't different

Either I'm stupid or that looks like standard OEM profile

[buoyant heart]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

still unsure if he redid the twohe in tachyon or not

[pine turtle]

he didnt

afaik

[buoyant heart]

sad

would just be nice having it remeasured without extra vid

[pine turtle]

i thought he would say more

sounded like he had a terrible day

tbh

[ocean mountain]

Ay yo these came in at like the same time

So funny to me

[unreal venture]

I AM SO DAMN JEALOUS

[pine turtle]

bye battery with that LED

but damn

true

i get my deck like in october

[unreal venture]

SAME ;-;

The calculator says November for me ;-;

you got Deck updates pending xd

probably the "Scary Sideways Screen" update

thats what they call the UEFI cause its sideways on the screen

cause its technically a potrait oriented screen

[pine turtle]

yeah

[ocean mountain]

Mine said October and I got it now

[ocean mountain]

You are so right lol

[pine turtle]

i have after Q3

so i should have time to earn money

[ocean mountain]

Gl

[ocean mountain]

It's the beta one so I'm scurred

[unreal venture]

ooh :P

[sick sequoia]

Steam deck is that one product peopleare excited about that I just don't understand at all.

[hollow steppe]

yeah i dont understand either

[eternal sleet]

It's a better Nintendo switch, If you can remember the Nintendo switch hype then you would understand

But at the same time as a pc owner I don't understand the hype

The last portable console I enjoyed was the PSP

[hollow steppe]

right, but nintendo switch has exclusive games like smash, animal crossing, stuff like that which is the main reason ppl buy it

[brisk ice]

Had my keyboard for a while now and I'm loving it

[crisp solar]

would be a shame for nintendo if steam deck could run switch games

nvm it can

[eternal sleet]

Yeah and I mean like I have a switch OLED and I never bring it out/always plugged in to the TV, I suppose whomever wants to play some steam library on the go it's a W

[restive jetty]

https://twitter.com/xaizone/status/1542150906619346947?s=21&t=oakAX1AJUqmeJhqYjQXDSg

xaizone (@xaizone)

🤯🤯🤯 @WootingKB

Twitter · Jun 29, 2022, 2:20 PM

[sick sequoia]

I disagree, switch is better in everyway.

[hollow steppe]

i mean, in terms of performance the steam deck is better

[sick sequoia]

Doesn't matter, everything on steam deck is better played elsewere

[hollow steppe]

but practicality, the switch just makes more sense

yeah thats what im saying basically

it only beats it in performance

but it doesn't matter

[sick sequoia]

Then again, many switch games also play better on PC through Emulation, but not all.

I actually could understand some people that wanted Switch, but steamdeck no. Maybe kids, but people with setups, kinda weird to be honest.

[hollow steppe]

i mean if you're into more casual games i can see it being cool because you can take it in the car or on a plane easier than a laptop and it is pretty powerful for its size

i just personally would not get one

[sick sequoia]

Maybe, but personally I wouldn't play a cucked version of a game.

[hollow steppe]

how is it cucked?

[sick sequoia]

Worse version of a game* 😂

[hollow steppe]

but in what way is it worse?

[sick sequoia]

Performance and sticks

[hollow steppe]

performance isnt bad though really

for the price

they sell the steam deck for so cheap because they make the money back with the steam games that are purchased by the people buying the steam deck

[sick sequoia]

Meh, most games I've seen is 720p@60 fps.

Probably good for handheld.

But still not good, which just makes a handheld with PC games extra stupid imo

But I knoe people like it, but I would never touch it.

[hollow steppe]

60 fps is good for most ppl that are buying this i think

i have a whole gaming setup so the 60 fps would bother me but i understand what you're saying

[sick sequoia]

When you think about value, I can get an Original GMK Evil Dolch keycap set for about the same price as the Steam deck. Steam deck value looking pretty bad now 😉

[pine turtle]

i wanna play indie games on it

mostly

[hollow steppe]

yeah, it seems like it would be good for that

[sick sequoia]

I disagree again actually. Games like Celeste and Hollow Knight play too well on 1440p@240fps that I would use it on Steam Deck, but these games are at least good with sticks, so I guess it at least would be playable decently on the SD 👍

[pine turtle]

project hospital especially

[crisp solar]

you want to see cucked versions of games, try the switch version of games available on other platforms

[pine turtle]

i dont have $50000 for them sorry

sold my switch

every game $50 double buy and shit graphics, no settings

nice controls most of the time tho

[crisp solar]

as long as the sticks last anyways

[vague roost]

I’d prefer a switch tbh

Just like he said it has exclusive games which is the main reason people buy it

AND fortnite wild cat skin😳

[uncut light]

?

oh i see

[eternal sleet]

Steam Deck ➡️ Steam Lovers
Nintendo Switch ➡️ Nintendo Lovers

[eternal sleet]

Nothing, NOTHING can beat a PSP/DS Lite

[ripe prawn]

Being able to stream play PS5 on Chiaki while watching TV or out in the yard is worth it.

[pastel prawn]

I bought a code for wildcat about a year ago as already had a switch... Used the code, got the skin, 3 days later seller refunded me for the code, never contacted me or anything. Free wildcat skin 🥳

[vivid tusk]

Exactly my thoughts. I don’t switch often between gaming and work so for my gaming uses I thought I’d use a wooting and with this case it just evokes that old school game boy vibe.

Glad someone noticed it’s why I went with white pudding keycaps too instead of my original planned GMK laser set

[vivid tusk]

Thank you I love it really adds some colour to my white/black/wood only coloured desk. Good focal point

[gusty shell]

whered yah get yours from?

[vivid tusk]

I got my case from Deskhero. They’ll have links to one in your region from there too if you’re not in Canada

https://www.deskhero.ca/products/cyberspace-box60-keyboard-case-and-stand

[gusty shell]

Ty ty, getting one

[quasi ether]

finally….

[hollow steppe]

nice!

what region are you in?

[quasi ether]

Asia

[jagged surge]

@vivid tusk ohhhh thats nice sound test when? 👀

[abstract blaze]

@quasi ether mine just reached the local post

So excited

[hollow steppe]

lucky duck

[abstract blaze]

@hollow steppe wheres yours?

[vivid tusk]

I can probably manage one. Just be aware I swapped stabs out as well as lubed switch/springs.

I'm short though if you've ever used an Apple AEK. imagine that but without the spring ping and a much softer bottom out noise.

Hollow but without sounding cheap if that makes sense? Just has a nice body/crisp deep but sharp resonance to it

[vague roost]

Thats crazy. i made my minecraft java skin wildcat lmaoo kinda cringe now that i think about it

[mossy bay]

Cyberspace BOX60 is now €34 instead of €40 at mykeyboard.eu, just ordered mine and shipping was free to Belgium:
https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/cyberspace-x-buger-works-box60_2490/

[sick sequoia]

@hollow steppe Bought a fake sett for 20 bucks instead. The red looks terrible tho 😂

[jagged surge]

Wow that's a crazy good deal its like $80 in the US but I assume that's because it's made in the EU so less fees

[rich dirge]

you get what you pay for

why cheap out on keycaps when you have hundreds of euros in those two mice there

[gusty shell]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-the-huxtables-raven-simone-the-cosby-show-gif-9140688

[sick sequoia]

Well mouse is way more important, I'm not a keyboard enthusiast.

Also 350 for a keycap set is a lot + GMK wears easily, just seems like a lot of money for the set.

[rich dirge]

keycaps are the thing you have the most contact with, using cheap keycaps is like putting a plastic steering wheel in a performance supercar

[merry heron]

@sick sequoia G20 Ascension time.

[sick sequoia]

I was looking for it, but is it in stock somewere?

I want the G20 "Stealth" if I'm going for that set.

[rich dirge]

I wouldn't get gmk cause I think they're massively overrated and overpriced, I'd get signature plastics or something from korea

[merry heron]

go pimp my keyboard and type g20, there is stealth&glacier and that alien set :-3

[rich dirge]

I can't imagine chiner keycap quality has been able to maintain even the low bar it had pre-covid

[sick sequoia]

Ohh, but the keycaps feels fine, it's just the red printing that seems a bit weak imo, although I'm not sure how red the original is.

[sick sequoia]

Ye, that is where I'm looking.

But the alpha kit is out of stock.

[merry heron]

Rip, 1-3 months last I heard

[hollow steppe]

coming this week hopefully

[wintry sierra]

@gloomy pulsar round two

[autumn parrot]

why two ?

[barren gazelle]

when are they going to ship the keyboard to the us
?

[wintry sierra]

first one came broken

[uncut light]

#📦│batch_updates 🙂

[abstract blaze]

dude received 2, before some of us even received one

D:<

[pastel prawn]

So are coiled cables a definite no-no with the 60HE because of voltage issues or is it just some brands, do we have a "works with 60HE" list of custom cables? I fancy getting myself something nice to go with the different caps/case I'm doing with it but have seen some people have had issues.

[buoyant heart]

they are figuring out the parameters

iirc its unshielded coiled cables with long coiles

[rustic rain]

just done that, it's really blasting

[hollow steppe]

blasting?

[rustic rain]

its good

[hallow sphinx]

Silicone ftw honestly

[hollow steppe]

ohh sorry

[hallow sphinx]

Got a pic of your build ?

[hollow steppe]

can you give us a sound test @rustic rain

[rustic rain]

i mean the sound is not bad, but i have to wait for the new springs

[vivid tusk]

Niiiiice

[celest bay]

you have not one, but 2 of that mouse! which game are you playing?

[sick sequoia]

It's 2 different mouses

Diabotical mostly

[celest bay]

two different versions or different brand?

if there is a cheaper version I would like to try 😄

[sick sequoia]

Versions. M1K and M2K

[sick sequoia]

Hsk is probably thr closest

[celest bay]

oh, ok, optimum tech praised it so much, I am really curious, but it's too expensive for my skillset and the amount of time I can play any game...

[sick sequoia]

Ye, it's amazing and super comfortable, I'm getting another for office use soon.

[celest bay]

I got logitech superlight, was using Deathadder V2, didn't get the hype tbh. I mean it's good to have wireless but even that was not big of a upgrade other than visual benefits...

But that might be my lack of skill

[sick sequoia]

You gotta remember the superlight is not really a real gaming mouse, it's quite heavy at 63 grams and have office rated polling rate.

Jk

[celest bay]

🙂 I should be able to aim first 😄 to even start considering the latency and stuff... But I ordered 60he so that's that... 😄

[sinful moth]

removing the wire is a huge QOL upgrade for people who are on a medium/low sensitivity

I generally despise wireless tech and even I concede there's no reason to have a wired mouse anymore (from a decent maker)

and I also thought logitech can't make a decent shape/weight mouse to save their life but the superlight is that

[celest bay]

my sensitivity can be considered low, in game x mouse sens is sth between 700 - 800

[sinful moth]

I used to run over my cable if it decided to grip the pad, mouse bungees were just copium bs

[celest bay]

I wanted to buy model d wireless just for the shape, but the reviews showed so many qc problems, I didn't bet with my luck

[sinful moth]

I've had two viper ultimate's and a g pro in terms of recent wireless

[celest bay]

viper hurts my hand tbh, couldn't use that...

[sinful moth]

I wanted the silent revision update of the viper which improved tolerances etc

superlight almost feels like an apple product in a way

the fact they don't include a charging dock is pathetic, but there's a third party one that works as a receiver holder as well though it's limited to 85% charge capacity

[celest bay]

I like Basilisk's shape but it's heavy

hmm, interesting, it might be nice to try, I will check the dock

what would you suggest instead of superlight? Except viper, like I said it's uncomfortable for me

[sinful moth]

there's a few new ones that came to market but idk

[normal stream]

after getting my superlight i just stopped looking at mice, its just good enough for me not to want anything else (except a usb c version)

[sinful moth]

razer's wireless tech is the best imo

logitech is much more sensitive to RF/line of sight

we should move this to another channel

[celest bay]

yeah, that's true

[sinful moth]

#💬│general ig

[sick sequoia]

Problem with superlight for me is the shape and weight.

[sinful moth]

it's the first good mouse they've made

[sick sequoia]

It was good, for those that like the shape, but pretty dated now, both in terms of tech and weight.

Personally the shape is way to generic for me.

It's a great mouse I'd recommend for people new to gaming tho, that don't know what they like. Great entry level

[sinful moth]

I don't see a reason to sperg below 60g especially with silly holes in it at that point

[sick sequoia]

Holes are kinda meh.

[sinful moth]

much more mechanically skilled games were played on vastly inferior hardware

[sick sequoia]

Everything was done on worse tech in the past. That's pretty obvious, doesn't mean you can't optimize

I get from A to B in my Mazda 2 (2007) aswell

Everyone is different tho.

The shape and weight being an issue for me, doesn't have to be an issue for you or anyone else for that matter 😊

But personally there is not going back for me after I've tried 23 gram, 8000hz, solid shell. Nothing feels the same, but that's just me personally.

Weight being the most noticeable reason.

[sinful moth]

8000hz is borderline ddosing yourself lol

[sick sequoia]

Why? I have no FPS issue

[sinful moth]

considering mouse updates are sub 200hz at slower speeds

it's a funny idea

[sick sequoia]

Although I've heard people running stock windows 10 have issues, but who does that in 2020 anyway

If it's needed or not is kinda irrelevant, since there is no performance hit from it.

Unless you have a trash OS

But then why would you even play video games 🤷

[sinful moth]

there's no way there isn't an impact in cpu limited scenarios

which is surely the case if you're trying to get massively high fps (at least 500+) to make any of this remotely beyond placebo

[sick sequoia]

I play 700-1000 FPS on 8000hz

Hardly hitting me hard.

[sinful moth]

I'm rapidly remembering why I never use public servers, enjoy whatever I'm dipping

[sick sequoia]

Ye, you're always gonna find weird people.

[pastel prawn]

I don't think it's fair to call the Superlight entry level... Its a very good pro gaming mouse. One of the top 2 or 3 mice on the market.

I am currently using the Razer Viper V2 Pro because the shape suits me better.... But I was running a custom Superlight (with kailh 8.0's and kailh scroll encoder), I owned 2 Superlight, a Finalmouse SL 12 and various other mice.

The Razer mouse isn't massively better than the Superlight in any way, just shape suits me better. In fact the build quality isn't as good, but it performs very well. Razer used to have terrible mice until the last couple of years, they used to fail all the time.

And I definitely think 8000hz is just a bad idea in most situations. There are only a few games where running 8k doesn't have a negative impact on performance, the operating system is not built to handle such high polling rates..

I will say I agree on weight. Lighter is noticeably better for me, I can really tell the difference between ~60g and ~50g. But part of that is the lighter mice are a little better balanced.

I can tell you one thing for sure, Wooting make the best gaming keyboards!

[crisp solar]

if you find a shape that's comfortable to your hand it can't get dated unless your hand outgrows it

[pastel prawn]

Yeah, shape and weight are the two biggest factors for I think. These days sensors and switches are all in the same performance tier so you should really base any decision on what works best for you rather than tech in the mouse. The only thing I won't ever do is go back to a wired mouse. Wireless is 100% better imho.

[crisp solar]

I'm inclined to agree since I got a wireless, it wasn't quite on par with wired until rather recently though

[autumn parrot]

Nie tue Wooting 60 He in ToFu60

[unreal venture]

keyboard porn

<3

[crisp solar]

I need to stop looking into this room

its dangerous for my account balance

[autumn parrot]

:))

[dusky thorn]

@autumn parrot oooo I might have to do the same, looks so clean.

[rich dirge]

thinking I might just buy another moonlander keycap set 😬

[hallow sphinx]

The wrist rest fits the tofu incredibly well, it's the perfect height pretty much

[gusty shell]

Already got mine

[warped talon]

Blade 60 x 60 HE

[sly hollow]

still waiting on my tofu 60 case so I can put my 60he in

Tofu60he

[warped talon]

hell ya surprising how easy it was to swap

[sly hollow]

Yeah for my tofu i'm doing a oring mount so that's gonna be fun

[hollow steppe]

looks awesome! i got the same case but in black

are you keeping the stock keycaps? @warped talon

[warped talon]

yea for now until i find something i really like

[hollow steppe]

you looking for white keycaps?

[warped talon]

https://drop.com/buy/drop-mt3-black-on-white-keycap-set?defaultSelectionIds=965896 ended up getting these

Yea I got the all whites from drop

[hollow steppe]

good choice, those will look awesome on your board

they're pretty tall though so you might need a wrist rest

[mossy garnet]

Very sexy

[autumn parrot]

yes and it's awesome how heavy the keyboard is now on the table.

[hollow steppe]

our board are gonna be complete opposites lol. I got the black blade 60 with black keycaps

[mossy garnet]

How expensive that case 👀

[hollow steppe]

like $90

[autumn parrot]

Wooting 60 HE = 199€

ToFu60 = 120€

🥳

[hollow steppe]

you paid 120 for the tofu60?

[autumn parrot]

Yes, unfortunately it was not available anywhere else

[hollow steppe]

did you buy it from kbdfans?

[autumn parrot]

no via aliexpress, it only took a week to get to germany

[hollow steppe]

oh yeah thats not bad

[rustic rain]

mechboards.co.uk

[hollow steppe]

kbdfans charges like $20 for shipping no matter what you're buying

[celest bay]

did anyone try wooden cases? I really love the look of them but never saw anyone try it...

[hollow steppe]

thats where i bought my blade60 from

[hollow steppe]

are you concerned about if the pcb will fit or not?

[celest bay]

that and the sound profile

[hollow steppe]

sound profile would probably be similar to plastic

maybe deeper

[celest bay]

and because it's not common, I thought maybe it's not a wise choice 😄

[hollow steppe]

you'd definitely have a unique keyboard tho

@celest bay https://www.amazon.com/Wooden-Mechanical-Keyboard-Compatible-Rosewood/dp/B06ZYBSSBD/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3V2EQ76SUEKN6&keywords=wooden%2Bcase%2Bkeyboard&qid=1657703873&sprefix=wooden%2Bcase%2Bkeyboard%2Caps%2C80&sr=8-3&th=1

[celest bay]

yeah I was thinking of that

the funny part is keycaps are more expensive than this...

I guess it's the keycaps that make me decide not to do anything all the time...

[hollow steppe]

what keycaps did you wanna get?

[celest bay]

orange dolche is good, but if I go with a wooden case I would probably go gray and brown

if it's black case than grey and orange

sorry don't know names, but when I checked for the color scheme the cheapest I found was around 60-70

[hollow steppe]

https://www.amazon.com/Akko-Black-Silver-Keycap-Set/dp/B09RWQJPBT/ref=sr_1_3?crid=D7NT6UM0R6LE&keywords=asa%2Bkeycap%2Bset&qid=1657704557&sprefix=asa%2Bk%2Caps%2C83&sr=8-3&th=1

these sets are really nice for their price. asa profile has the shape of sa and the height of oem (the stock 60he keycaps are oem)

[celest bay]

looks nice, I just can't justify paying that much, but that's the market I can understand

bought xda matcha for 35 € for my gf, that was reasonable for me

[hollow steppe]

yes those are nice sets i like xda

[celest bay]

I have keychron k3, I really like the color scheme of their keycaps

[hollow steppe]

what profile keycaps did you want to get?

[celest bay]

oem and cherry looks comfortable, but I don't know what I used before

for a really long time now I am using low profile

so they are completely different

[hollow steppe]

xda or dsa are really low profile

[celest bay]

xda is too flat, don't you think?

[hollow steppe]

and they're uniform which means all the keys are the same shape and height

[celest bay]

that might be uncomfortable if the case is not angled enough? I am only guessing though.

[hollow steppe]

it is for some people

cherry might be good for you then

its shorter than oem and it still has that ergonomic profile instead of uniform

[celest bay]

cool

thanks

[dusky thorn]

What profile are the stock keycaps on the 60HE? I'm assuming OEM? I'm a weirdo and I like to game on OEM but type on cherry lol

[buoyant heart]

its oem

[hallow sphinx]

All of these blade60 build are making me reconsider my 5° build goddamn

[wintry sierra]

@gloomy pulsar Forget to let you know, everything works flawlessly, thank you for coming through so fast

w company

w team

[tulip sage]

Lubing switches, changing stabilizers and foaming case properly ;)

[hollow steppe]

can you do a sound test when you're done?

[celest bay]

I wanted to order a wooden case with a mediocre pcb and it's more expensive than wooting fully assembled pbt keyboard... custom keyboard pricing doesn't make sense...

[crisp solar]

part small batch manufacturing, part because they can

but yeah my curiosity for customizing was curbed rather efficiently by the price of it

[celest bay]

and there is no love for iso

[crisp solar]

ikr

discriminatory practices

[normal stream]

yeah i completely agree, i'd love to order a aluminum tofu case and cool key caps but i can't justify spending that kind of money on something I don't even really need

[mellow pagoda]

Over night shipping just got mine

[cold shoal]

Got mine and I’m loving it

[valid tinsel]

Just got mines today

[hollow steppe]

mine comes tomorrow:(

[celest bay]

mine comes hopefully late august/early september :/

[eternal sleet]

[celest bay]

so the coiled cable not causing any troubles?

[buoyant heart]

some are some arent

[celest bay]

yeah, that one seemed long and kinda similar to what I have, that's why I was curious if he has problems

and how long the rest of the cable is 🙂

[buoyant heart]

the real question would be if its shielded around the data/pwr lines

[celest bay]

I wouldn't be able to say that on mine, so at least I can eliminate possibilities

of course if I had my wooting I could have just tried 😄

[crisp solar]

the electromagnetic field builds up over time iirc, so might work fine initially and then start acting up

[elfin elm]

Jeroen did the research that EMI is not the concern here but rather the voltage drops

so as long as you use low brightness levels your noodle cable can be compatible, even when it isn't rated for 5v (~4.2v is the limit for 60he)

[buoyant heart]

unshielded cables create an inductor tho and would cause voltage drops due to the inductance

[idle beacon]

I'm completely over coiled cables. I can't get them to stay nicely lol. Straight cables with a nice connector is where it's at.

[hollow steppe]

I love it!

just waiting for my blade 60 to come :)

[eternal sleet]

Nope, This is from cable mod by the way

[dusky thorn]

Bag secured! Let’s go 🥹😤

Tofu60 case on the way but still kinda want a blade60 as an option 🥸

[silver anvil]

Les gu

[dusky thorn]

Yay

[minor stratus]

the stock stabs are so gd good

[dusky thorn]

I was literally about to type that. They crushed this

[minor stratus]

saves me time from lubing. which is chefs kiss

[stiff sapphire]

Yessirr

[restive jetty]

what cable?

[hollow steppe]

crazy how good it sounds stock

[celest bay]

yeah, sounds really good

[radiant flint]

Clean the pc

[buoyant heart]

i refuse

[radiant flint]

Shits struggling to breath with all that dust

[buoyant heart]

na

its ona nice 45c

[buoyant heart]

no max temp

idle is sub 25

i should really clean the outside but itll look the same 2 days later

main issue is its in a room with soapstone dust

keeping the internals clean is way more important in my case

[dusky thorn]

MechCables Obsidian group buy with an aviator connector. I have the coil and then ordered a straight matching one.

[scarlet fossil]

Have them both now. The 60HE sounds so much better so I might need to mod my Two HE now

[crisp solar]

any reasons in particular you went for different layouts on each?

[scarlet fossil]

For fun

also to try out abs vs pbt

[crisp solar]

ah

I figured if one picks ansi it'd have a wider appeal on the second hand market

apart from more custom stuffs that is

hows your impression of going back and forth between the layouts? my main concern would be hitting the key in between enter and backspace accidentally on the ansi bc habit of hitting a bit higher up on an iso

[scarlet fossil]

its fine really

the biggets problem is only really the different size of the enter key

switching between us ansi and no iso is not a big problem otherwise

[crisp solar]

yea any letter/symbol differences can be changed anyways

[scarlet fossil]

also after using ansi for a little while ive been considering just going full ansi and instead add the few international keys i use as a fn modier map since i dont use them that often anyways.

[crisp solar]

I do much prefer the shape/placement of the ISO enter, but ANSI gets all the aftermarket bling

[scarlet fossil]

iso enter is amazing, but as a programmer iso is just terrible due to having to use alt gr for literally everything

[crisp solar]

am still a bit on the fence, but I got a few months to reconsider my pick before it ships

[celest bay]

in the same language?

I mean you can use iso de on ansi us layout keyboard... then the alt gr need wouldn't change

but if you are undecisive, my idea is to get iso whenever you can because, in another time probably you will only have ansi option 😄