Wootility v5.3.0-beta Feedback

[wicked nova]

Wootility v5.3.0-beta.1 Feedback

Wootility v5.3.0-beta Feedback

[spring kiln]

yay

[wild spear]

NOI

[cyan eagle]

[quiet cosmos]

Got some extra switches for you guys that we were able to add fairly quickly, most work last 2 weeks has gone into polishing 5.2.1 stable.

We should be able to support some community favorites in about a week or two.

Let us know what switches you're using so we can support them!

[wicked nova]

For anyone experiencing input issues
Could you share:

• Keyboard Model
• Firmware version
• Switches being used (and what is configured in Switch Selector if relevant)
• Profile Code for profile you can experience issues on
• Affected keys + what exact symptoms are being experienced

Having all this information would be extremely helpful for us resolving input issues you're experiencing.

Thanks!

[digital ether]

I have beta updates turned on but 5.2.1-beta offered me 5.2.1 stable and isn’t offering the 5.3.0-beta. This is on Mac. Also it updated beta firmware to stable. 2.13 beta firmware isn’t available either for me. Will need to check on windows later.

[quiet cosmos]

reproduced the problem, thank you, we'll get it sorted

[wild spear]

I have found unusual bug on demo mode

1. Pick 60HE/60HEv2
2. Click Select all keys in Quick Settings
3. Pick 80HE

[cyan eagle]

thanks, can repro

we'll look into

[wicked nova]

Should be fixed now

[tough kindle]

nice update

[sacred needle]

I don't have a switch selector

[knotty flame]

the switch selector is ARM only

[sacred needle]

What does that mean

[vague swan]

Different "Chip"

[knotty flame]

All newer keyboards use ARM now

[sacred needle]

I get it, but why am I limited because of a different chip/board?

[vague swan]

It doesn't have the memory/storage for it

#1443585012988645487 message

[sacred needle]

I remember someone commenting in a blog post during Wooting LE development how they would be having a slightly different board in the Wooting 2 HE

and we got assurance that this wouldn't be a worse keyboard because of it

apparently the changes were very minor

but now it's a worse keyboard because of it and the people who funded the current HE era are now getting "sorry can't help you lol"

[knotty flame]

Why is it worse just because you're not getting a new feature you didn't have before? 🤔

[sacred needle]

because wooting 2 he has this feature

wooting 2 lekker edition doesn't

they said it's effectively the same thing

but turns out it's not

[potent schooner]

hello, my keyboard keeps disconnecting trying to save the switch selector, or saving anything. Logs shows this: [2025-12-09T19:21:17.446Z] [error] Device communication error, closing device Error: Communication with device timed out at async task (file:///assets/index-B-xGwHt0.js:1:2011488) at async GN.tick (file:///assets/index-B-xGwHt0.js:1:2012066) [2025-12-09T19:21:17.447Z] [info] Device disconnected 10 id: 1028391815024002 [2025-12-09T19:21:17.453Z] [error] Failed to sync device. Error: Task was cancelled [2025-12-09T19:21:17.453Z] [error] Failed to sync device. Error: Task was cancelled [2025-12-09T19:21:17.453Z] [error] Failed to sync device. Error: Task was cancelled [2025-12-09T19:21:17.454Z] [error] Failed to sync device. Error: Task was cancelled [2025-12-09T19:21:17.454Z] [error] Profile saving failed Error: Task was cancelled [2025-12-09T19:21:17.454Z] [error] There was an error syncing the Keyboard Profile with device: Error: Communication with device timed out
not sure if this is an OS issue.
keyboard: 80HE
switches: lekker v2
Firmware: 2.13.0-beta.2
profile: 383aa45d8e2ad3a33310560e619001519fb0

[coarse drift]

I'm getting this when I try to change my CTRL to a different switch

Wooting 80HE
Layout: ANSI
Firmware: v2.13.0-beta.2
Chip: ARM
State: Connected

Switches used are as shown in the picture

[coarse drift]

I can change to a different switch only if I disconnect and reconnect manually while Wootility is open.
Restarting Wootility brings back and I cant change again

Happy to help if you need logs or anything else

[potent schooner]

same thing happening for me

[faint silo]

updates for the background service should probably be included in the update section. and maybe test the background service manual updates, because it had no feedback or progress bar for me and displayed some nonsense like in the image i sent (fine after restarting wootility)

[dense remnant]

changelog would also be interesting for the background-service

[sacred needle]

What are the differences between ARM and AVR chips? Is it possible or feasible to "upgrade" my lekker edition to ARM?

[faint silo]

that's essentially a hardware upgrade/replacement to "change" chips AFAIK (and AVR won't have switch selector due to lack of storage apparently)

[sacred needle]

I understand that, but is it possible to do that hardware upgrade/replacement?

[faint silo]

probably not other than replacing the whole keyboard? i do not know

[sacred needle]

The question is, replacing entire keyboard, replacing the board, or replacing the chip

[cyan eagle]

replacing the pcba would be the minimum but we don't sell wooting two he arm pcbas that I know of.

we would love to have AVR boards keep feature parity forever but unfortunately the chip itself does not have the space to add more features

some bugfixes it would have the space for maybe, but switch selector happens to also be one of the bigger features (firmware-size wise) which makes it a complete no-go for AVR.

We do have some plans for related improvements for AVR, that would need to be smaller in scale.

you could contact our customer support to see if something can be arranged regarding the pcba but I can't promise anything

[sacred needle]

maybe i'll send a post card instead ...

Anyways, thanks for all your help.

[cyan eagle]

for some clarity, the original 2HE also has an AVR processor. The ARM version came after that. If you had gotten a 2HE at the time, it would have the same limitation

[sacred needle]

yeah, I got that, I was mistaken earlier

I assumed it wouldn't have that limitation because the web demo version shows 2HE as one of the selectable keyboards with switch selector

[cyan eagle]

if you have an ARM model, it is. I'm not sure when the last AVR model was sold but looking at some release notes the ARM version has existed in some capacity for 3 years

[sacred needle]

I see.

[faint silo]

oh and i'm here to report another input issue, although i have no idea how to reproduce it at all (wooting 80he v2.13.0-beta.2):

• (not reproducible anymore after replacing profile 2 with profile 2) switching from profile 1 (7af77eb48d4c9e4bb5f9ee59180b99167553) to profile 2 (502d503ddbe59e8d3dd30f68784b472365ed) right after startup mean that some keys (lctrl, windows, esc, f1-f12, and some others, but not the rest) just ignore actuation point completely, triggering a press as early as 0.06mm self-reported (for 1-3 mm keys) self-reported key depth is still correct. switch profiles can fix the problem.
• (no known reliable reproduction method) my f2 key after the keyboard was on for about 12 hours (desktop was on and did not sleep) didn't work until after pressing it repeatedly a bit, with no reported key press depth at all. on profile 2 (502d503ddbe59e8d3dd30f68784b472365ed)

still lekker v2 switches

[potent schooner]

@cyan eagle this is happening pretty often. sometimes i try to save profile midgame to test some bindings, and it just looses connection. if i unplug and plug back in it works again. if this is a keyboard issue, i wonder if warranty still covers it?

[vague swan]

It seems like some keys jitter while fully pressed, I haven't experienced this earlier, with my actuation point it doesn't affect me but doesn't look right.
2HE
Firmware version: v2.13.0-beta.2
Switches being used (and what is configured in Switch Selector if relevant): Lekker V1.5
Profile Code for profile you can experience issues on: 43bcfb6f55c5acd2eaf699f32c08b05da0af

Left Shift

[mighty trail]

I have some written out, would you like them to be posted here?

[quiet cosmos]

yes please

[mighty trail]

Oh wait filtered out, let me remove the hyperlinks

Switch - Initial Force / Travel
Gateron Jade Max - 36±5gf / 3.5±0.1mm
Gateron Genty Silent - 35±5gf / 3.7±0.2mm
Gateron Jade Air - 36±5gf / 3.5±0.1mm
Geon Raptor HE - 42.0g / 4.0mm
Gateron KS-20 Dual-Rail White - 30gf / 4.1±0.2mm
Gateron KS-20 Dual-Rail Orange - 30±7gf / 4.1±0.2mm
Gateron KS-20 Orange - 38gf / 4.1±0.2mm

These are the ones I do own

[mighty trail]

Similar travel distances, are you guys looking at incorporating them just for convenience? Or sticking with what they are similar with

[finite panther]

I use Lekker Tikken.

[verbal fox]

These switches are unlikely to ever be added honestly. They’re all very old and not popular options

Jade air is the only one slightly newer but it was quite unpopular

[mighty trail]

I had actually swapped to it recently because of how stable it was

[verbal fox]

if it does get added it will be quite far down the line. Switches basically get added based on popularity or what’s new and potentially good options

[mighty trail]

Figured it'd be nice to throw the suggestion

[verbal fox]

Gaterons measuring is also incorrect btw

We’ve had to correct a lot of their measurements ourselves

[mighty trail]

Of course, I only posted it as the website was instructed, figured there was another measure to properly record the measurements

[verbal fox]

I can say that basically all the ks20 we’d basically never add because of how outdated they are as switches while being very unpopular

[mighty trail]

Yeah of course, just threw it out as a suggestion, too many switches would look too cluttered especially on older unpopular switches

[verbal fox]

Jade ruby should be in the next batch added though, as that’s a fairly popular switch and I sent those over for data already

[mighty trail]

I'm surprised how popular they are, are they significantly different than the jade pros?

[verbal fox]

Nah they’re just Jade pros but with better top housing

As a minor update by gateron

[mighty trail]

Will there be a list or is it behind the scenes for the upcoming ones or still scouting for new ones that are popular (basically have 90% of them already on the site)

[verbal fox]

Yeah I shared it in modding channel already

[mighty trail]

Also, 2 of them I believe I grabbed from the sample gateron kit on amazon

Don't know how popular those were but thought i'd clarify

[verbal fox]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[mighty trail]

Thanks, sorry to be obstrusive

[verbal fox]

Nah all good

[finite panther]

I'm currently having a problem where the keyboard connection is often lost as soon as I try to save something in Wootility. Sometimes it saves anyway, but most of the time it doesn't.

This can usually be fixed quickly by briefly unplugging the cable from the keyboard. But not always.

[cyan eagle]

Can you try switching the polling rate to 1k and seeing if that gets rid of the issue? It's something we're investigating internally and want to fix as soon as possible

[finite panther]

Ok. I wil try.

No change.

The same error as with 8k.

[cyan eagle]

hmm, thanks.

[finite panther]

What I've just noticed is that the LED bar no longer works after this error message.

It usually displays the CPU usage for me.

I deactivated it and was then able to change things several times without any error message.

There was an update to the Wooting Background Service. Could that be the reason?

No more error messages here.

As soon as I turn the CPU usage monitoring back on, I get the error messages again.

[finite panther]

Good morning. This seems to be a Windows problem, because i'm now using Linux and i don't get any error messages when saving.

[pallid zinc]

after 5.3 beta, woot80 does not power on until windows, cannot enter bios while booting. this was not happening before, at least 5.1. any ideas? usb related bios settings are not changed (legacy usb-on)

if this is only happening to me, prob cause of MSI's poor m/b firmware

[finite panther]

That's strange. Yesterday I had these problems with saving. This morning everything was fine under Windows 11. Then the PC was off for a few hours. Now i`m back home and i'm having these problems again.

[cyan eagle]

it just looks like you have them set different on that profile

can you share the profile code?

[finite panther]

Since yesterday i've had the problem that the LED bar no longer responds when the PC has been in standby mode.

If I stop and restart the Wooting background service, it works again (Windows 11).

[cyan eagle]

looks fine for me on beta

[valid aspen]

@wicked novaI feel that the current range of supported switches is still quite limited. Additionally, I would like to inquire whether future updates will include support for switches with a magnetic flux of 750 Gauss. In the current version, after a power loss, each key requires multiple presses to recalibrate, which is highly inconvenient for DIY users. Will future versions of the driver include a manual calibration feature? It would also be helpful if the driver could save the minimum and maximum magnetic flux values after calibration to avoid the need for recalibration after power loss.

[verbal fox]

There are more switches already planned and in the works of being added. I estimate once the next batch is fully done that should cover large selection of the mainstream switches

[verbal fox]

if there’s a particular switch you want added it’s better to just mention them vs giving magnetic values because it’s as much about travel distance as well.
We can’t guarantee they’ll be added if they’re not that popular an option, but if you mention them then at least we’ll be able to see it and gauge interest over time

[valid aspen]

For example, wuquestudio's WS Flux Switch, this switch has a magnetic flux of 750 gauss and a 3.5mm travel. Wuquestudio has many versions of switches, with only a few versions having a magnetic flux of 550 gauss, as well as the new switches from your partners TTC and GATERON.

Or you could consider adding a custom axle option in the drive shaft settings, so that DIY users like us can set the axle parameters ourselves. I believe this would be the simplest and most convenient operation for you.

[untold burrow]

Wooting is going to add Wuque Flux, along with some other popular switches to the selector soon. Here's the list: #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[verbal fox]

Yep like shafie mentioned Wuque flux deep clack are already planned to be added

DIY gauss doesn’t work because the manufacturers themselves don’t get their own readings right sometimes.

Both their magnetic readings and travel distance is often not 100% accurate

[dawn vigil]

-> for some reason on this profile (this doesnt happen on any of my other 2 profiles)my 'o' key is super sensitive (not the only one(video demo))

• 80HE
• v2.13.0-beta.2
• LekkerV2 (same)
• 18001b7fd9d15cdf522c7b4a99016ecea4be
• alot are affected, but 'o', 'n' 'p' 'v' are maybe the most noticeable

[finite panther]

I keep having the problem that the LED bar stops responding after the PC has been in standby mode. I use it to display CPU usage. I then have to stop and restart the Wooting background service. This doesn't happen after every standby, though, and it occurs in both the beta and the latest stable versions.

I currently have version 5.2.2 installed. When I enable beta updates, the latest beta version is not offered to me, even after restarting Wootility.

I've installed the latest beta. But now version 5.2.2 is being offered as an update?

[dawn vigil]

also i forgot to mention, i have another profile in which i use 8k polling but the issue isnt happening, should i just delete this one and create another with the same settings??

[paper plume]

has the issue of restarting the pc and the keyboard dropping brightness to 0

even when switching between profiles

[rare bloom]

I noticed that renaming a keyboard from the drop-down menu will rename the current selected keyboard instead of the one you picked in the list

The renaming modal does have the correct keyboard name but the change is only applied to whichever keyboard you have open to configure in the background

Not sure if it matters but i've got two UwUs and a 60HE (not the plus) and i'm using brave browser (with shield off) on linux

[wraith glade]

[hollow valley]

Yep its a bug.

I got that too

[quiet cosmos]

[v5.3.0-beta.2] New beta release is live! <@&725685824020283432>

This update allows for configuring Gamepad polling rate up to 1000 Hz on all devices, and up to 8000 Hz on the Wooting 80HE and 60HEv2.

We also added an option to Mod Tap JIT to activate the Tap key, which ensures that typing with mod tap on the alpha keys won't result in characters being out of intended order.

Full changelog and desktop downloads:
https://wooting.io/wootility/changelogs/5.3.0-beta.2

The web version is live on https://beta.wootility.io/

Please share any feedback or issues you encounter in the thread.

[fervent lily]

one problem still occuring , when mod tap is set to tap for "e"
and "a" and "d" are using rappy snappy.
when typing fast "a" "d" are still going out of order

seems to be bugged and not working when other keys are set to rappy snappy

otherwise it seems to be working as intended

[quiet cosmos]

profile code?

[fervent lily]

be0dd8662b68db32d0568b412e9d48de03a4

i removed the rappy snappy in the Main Layer for "A" and "D"

you may try to enable it. and you will see the problem still occuring if you type "e" and "a" or "d" really fast

suspecting rappy snappy inteferes with the new feature~

[real sage]

when im trying to move foward holding W it randomly stops and than keep going i made sure im not touching S and when im trying to move with W & D it stops moving diagonal and acts like im only going right

SETTINGS
SOCD for A & D
8k
rapid trigger at the lowest

[pallid zinc]

after updating to beta2, beta.wootility would not find my wooting 80he, while normal wootility connects without problem. I tried clearing all cache and resetting site permissions. happens on both chrome and edge

[cyan eagle]

do you get any errors in the browser console? also try re-adding the device

[pallid zinc]

haha yes, removing-readding in beta wootility solved it

[fervent lily]

any feedbacks?

can you confirm that the new JIT modtap "tap key" feature doesn't work with buttons that are already using rappy snappy or snappy tappy (socd)?

[viral kite]

Having this issue as well, been happening since a recent firmware update (I'm guessing 5.2 non-beta), also happens on 5.3 beta

I've also noticed this issue doesn't happen when the 1st profile is the active one before restarting the PC, if any other profile is active, only then the issue happens

keyboard is 60he, also MSI motherboard in case it matters

I dual boot 2 windows OSes, keyboard only turns on about 3 seconds after the windows boot manager pops up (can tell by the RGB), so it's not on during the BIOS startup hence you can't click delete to enter BIOS

[tribal scarab]

@verbal fox Will Akko Astrolink be added soon? I might actually end up with those. I'm currently trying out those, the Ice Ultra, and the Owlab Ti, both of which are already on the list.

[verbal fox]

Those are just raptor v2, and yes raptor v2 are in the incoming batch

[tribal scarab]

No kidding? Raptor v2 just rebranded or improved? They do seem more springy for 50g bottoms. Thank you so much for the quick reply!

[verbal fox]

Raptor v2 and Astro and a few others are basically same switch recolored

Might be slight spring differences and such but the actual switch itself is all the same

[tribal scarab]

Aha! Does the Switch Selector feature account for spring differences? I'm hesitant to enroll in beta firmware but I'm very curious.

[verbal fox]

Spring doesn’t change the start and end magnetic values

[hushed cosmos]

60HE
v2.13.0-beta.3
Stock switch (Lekker 60?)

is there any quick fix for this? really big deal for game performance

[untold burrow]

I doubt you can fix that, Lekker v1s are just so wobbly and that's why this happens

[hushed cosmos]

it wasn't happening before update, is there a way to downgrade the firmware?

[cyan eagle]

sorry for getting back to you so late, but yeah advanced keys interacting with the JIT options are something we want to fix during beta. If I have an update on this I'll ping you

[fervent lily]

Thankyou, looking foward to the next beta version to have this issue resolved.
would love to use rappy snappy or snappy tappy on "A" and "D" keys while being able to type properly without issue!

[worthy narwhal]

will there a update for 3.2mm key travel distance switches like gateron jade ultra?

[verbal fox]

gateron jade ultra switches are coming soon in the next batch of switches

[worthy narwhal]

[cyan eagle]

👀

[brisk forge]

soon™

[tribal scarab]

Going to try out Gravastar UFO. Is that on the docket?

[verbal fox]

it's on batch 3, so after this incoming batch ufo will be in the following batch. no eta on that though

[tribal scarab]

The important part is still just matching the actuation distance, right? The rest is aesthetic?

[verbal fox]

Not just that but also magnetic strength. Different companies use different magnets. Sometimes 2 switches with same travel will have totally different magnet strengths

[cyan eagle]

[quiet cosmos]

[v5.3.0-beta.3] New beta release is live! <@&725685824020283432>

This update introduces new switches to Switch Selector:
- Gateron Jade Ruby
- Gateron Jade Ultra
- Gateron Spark
- Geon Raptor HE V2
- MMD C1
- Owlab Ti HE
- PHYLINA Thunderflash White
- UR Ice Ultra
- Wuque Studio - Flux (Deep Clacky)
We also squashed some bugs we found along the way.

Full changelog and desktop downloads:
https://wooting.io/wootility/changelogs/5.3.0-beta.3

The web version is live on https://beta.wootility.io/

Please share any feedback or issues you encounter in the thread.

[oak venture]

It seems like RGB is a bit borked on the UwU with this update. The settings are still correct, but the actual RGB doesn't reflect what it's set to, and changes don't have any effect.

Preset changes will have an effect, but other effects and changes don't seem to have any effect

[cyan eagle]

whoopsie

can repro, will fix

thanks

[oak venture]

Awesome, glad it was easy to reproduce

[cyan eagle]

fixed!

[oak venture]

It sure is, thank you

[oak venture]

Just general feedback, but handling mixed settings for a toggle like this is just awesome

Start in the middle indicating both sides are toggled within the selection, and allow you to slide one way or the other 👌

[thorn yacht]

Looking forward to the Switch Selector update!

[untold burrow]

It's already available?

[thorn yacht]

Not in a public release, only beta, right? 80HE here

[untold burrow]

Yes, only beta for now

[thorn yacht]

That's why I'm waiting

[untold burrow]

Why not install beta

[tribal scarab]

These betas have been pretty rock solid. Though tbf, I've only had an 80HE for a couple of months now.

[thorn yacht]

Waiting for it to go live. I'm glad it's being addressed. I did mention switch travel length a while ago and how 3.5mm (Gateron Jades) travel didn't coordinate with what was on the utility (4.0mm) and someone told me it'll adjust or something, lol

[tribal scarab]

Just installed Gavastar UFO switches and opened up Wooting Desktop software to look at the Switch Selector only to find a new "update" to install. Great. After the update, the Switch Selector menu was completely gone. It "updated" me from v5.3.0-beta3 to v5.2.3. I downloaded 5.3.0b3 and installed it, and the desktop app still insists I downgrade versions.

[tight lotus]

Today's beta fixed that, ran into the same thing

Would it be possible to add the Haimu Doves? 3.8mm travel. Or possibly just a key travel slider? seems more comprehensive than finding a specific switch

[tribal scarab]

I didn't see an update but it's not prompting me to downgrade any longer! I appreciate the update.

[verbal fox]

doves are a silent switch making it very tricky to add (also not all that popular a switch these days just due to newer better silents that have come out)

we actually wanted to add tecsee he to recent batch as a silent option, but it was tough to get stable accurate data for it

[tight lotus]

Ah gotcha. Are any other silent switches slated to be added?

[verbal fox]

tecsee will likely be the first one (those and xvx he are same so it would work for that one too), but will take time to add to figure out how to add them accurately

silent switches just have more instability with the dampening and such

[tight lotus]

Yeah figures! thanks

[sudden belfry]

Do these new features in beta 5.3.0 support Gateron Magnetic Jade Max HE Linear Switch?

[untold burrow]

No, but you can choose Jade Pro in the software, it has same travel distance and magnet

[tribal scarab]

What's the closest to Gravastar UFO? The magnetic flux seems to be... unique?

[untold burrow]

TTC KING or UR Ice Ultra, none of them is ideal but works fine

I chose TTC

[fervent lily]

using 2.13.0-beta.3 along with wootility 5.3.0 beta.2 and currently facing another issue.
I have the "2" key setup with modtap : Hold = "[" and Tap = "2". now when using this mod tap together with an modifier key for example ctrl, alt or shift.
when pressing ctrl/alt/shift then "2" really fast, i cannot get it to register "alt +2" , as the modifier does not seem to register at all , and only "2" is registered.
only by slowing down and delaying pressing 2 , the modifier keys are then registered.
This issue is exactly the same as the JIT problem where letters are being in the wrong order.
I tried changing the settings , such as Hold, Tap, None or Hold modifier only, and none of it seems to work at all.

[tight lotus]

Does the spacers and O-rings setting add a deadzone at the bottom of the switch travel?

[sudden belfry]

thanks man

[fervent lily]

is there any update on this issue? any ETA on which beta version this will be fixed? Thanks

[gray carbon]

Will the background service be available on the 60HE+ in future?

[vague swan]

When the profile switching is implemented yes, right now it has no use

[cyan eagle]

Yes soon 👀

[jagged mason]

Is there an ETA on profile switching?

[vague swan]

Not any that I know

[jagged mason]

It's the only thing I need to make this keyboard perfect. I'll keep an eye out.

[dense remnant]

I agree

[tight lotus]

I don't remember how I got access, but there's a beta floating around with it enabled, works pretty flawlessly

#🙆│wootility_contribution message

[jagged mason]

I'm using the wooting profile swapper app. It works well, but I'd prefer the official one.

Hopefully if it's in a beta, it's not too long away

[tulip sphinx]

it's great for a beta ngl , no major issues

excited for stable 🫡

[quiet cosmos]

we're working to get it out the door as soon as it's ready, it's hard to put an eta for now

[dense remnant]

Second applinking test version based on latest beta would be nice … release eta is hard … i agree

[jagged mason]

I've just seen the .7 beta and installed it. Still no profile switching unfortunately.

[tight lotus]

Use the one I linked. It’s a specific beta 6 that has it

[jagged mason]

Can I install this after using beta 7?

[tight lotus]

Yeah just follow the instructions in the post, cause there's a specific version of both wootility and firmware you have to use