🔧│keyboard_modding

[humble surge]

it's to replace my Razer backpack i had for 10 years, which has holes now. I needed something also bigger to fit more things and something water resistant

I would both use it to bring my stuff to work and if i travel (but ofcourse i can just buy a more travel type one separately later).

[young viper]

yeah I've used the swiss ones for years and they work perfectly fine, not too over the top which is nice

[humble surge]

Sounds good

[uneven cradle]

Honestly x ray cable is pretty cheap for what it is and the c to c is verified to work on Wooting

[humble surge]

xD

[urban ingot]

I had that swiss backpack. It held up for a few years. Fabric around the zipper started to rip though.

[sturdy rock]

Just got the cray cable comes Tuesday it was a lot tbh 75 dollars

[sturdy rock]

Honestly if I still ould I would go back in time and have bought a more minimalistic backpack I find my Swiss gear to be to much sometimes and I don’t need all the compartments

[urban ingot]

If that's the swiss laptop backpack that holds a 17" laptop, its the same one.

[humble surge]

I will try it anyway, i don't really have other candidates right now and the current backpack has a really big hole in it now

it's an eyesore for everyone

They have several different ones Magnate

[young viper]

hmmmm nice lil flap one mous makes now

[humble surge]

this is the one

[young viper]

they also make 400 dollar luggage

[sturdy rock]

These grew on me and I like them more than the Swiss gear and normal bags

[young viper]

the mous ones?

[sturdy rock]

Not specifically mous but the design

[humble surge]

not half bad!

[bleak jolt]

should u lube ufo switches ?

[cloud crane]

XX Cable that's coming out soon should be cheaper

[humble surge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/yes-man-no-man

[bleak jolt]

because I saw that they can be pretty annoying to lube

[bleak jolt]

got it. thank you

[cloud crane]

Too troublesome to lube

[bleak jolt]

yeah I just saw that

[uneven cradle]

Luggage can get real expensive

[young viper]

all for it to be spiked at terminal velocity onto the plane

[humble surge]

Anything in this world, although luggage bags are something i never needed a fancy piece of, the ones i have are definitely not 4 digit in $

[young viper]

its not necessarily price that kills it for me, mainly just the distance being so short

[humble surge]

And i barely travel so

Usually backpack + smol luggage enough for the distances

[cloud crane]

XX Cable will be 1.5m, is that enough

[humble surge]

Barely enough but yes

[cloud crane]

👀

[young viper]

maybe? my setup is weird rn lol, i run the cable from my board into a cable tray which then feeds around the back and then to my pc whihc is mounted on the leg of my desk lol

[cloud crane]

[young viper]

the wooting coiled is barely making it rn

[humble surge]

For me it was simply from back of PC to the keyboard

the 1.5m XVX just about reaches

[bleak jolt]

I just bought a coiled cable from amazon. it does the job and looks and feels as good as the cablemod ones

[humble surge]

But looks much better than Xray tbh, whatever that one has for material looks like plastic, and also shorter while costs 3x more heh.

On the other hand the HM HUB Lite arrives tomorrow, so shorter cables will be able to do the job.

[uneven cradle]

That's kind of the whole theme is that it's translucent hence the "x-ray"

[young viper]

i heard about that hub, will it actually work with 8k?

[humble surge]

Not sure, new release

they only sent out about 14 so far

unless people are buying the more expensive listings

[cloud crane]

Afaik that hub is just the hm hub but no screen

Probably would work with 8k

[humble surge]

different product

It claims to at the very least

[cloud crane]

🤔

[uneven cradle]

Damn I didn't know alexotos was based like that

Raeds on top

[silent wadi]

ive asked this like a billion times but im still torn between the novas and ufos.

[little glen]

Neither

[bleak jolt]

crazyy

[little glen]

Ttc horse or deep clack flux

[silent wadi]

why

[little glen]

They are good

[bleak jolt]

If you have the money and u dont care spending a couple of bucks more get the ufos

and if you want something cheaper get the deep clacky

[silent wadi]

i dont have a budget

[bleak jolt]

I really cant hear a big difference between the two

[bleak jolt]

then get the ufo

IMO

[little glen]

Get all of the switches and try them out yourself

[bleak jolt]

hahahahahah

or that. Since u have no budget

[silent wadi]

....

by no budget i mean like less than 150 bucks for the whole keyboard

[little glen]

Thats less than the cost of a 60he v2

[silent wadi]

yes it is

[bleak jolt]

the 60he v2 literally costs 149 euro

[silent wadi]

same ting

[bleak jolt]

the module by the way

[young viper]

for the module lmao

[bleak jolt]

not the whole keyboard

[silent wadi]

oh lol

[sturdy rock]

Just get a rimowa at this point

[young viper]

so unless you feel like hot gluing magnets to your fingers and using it that way

[silent wadi]

ufos are hard to lube tho

this is so difficultttt

[lyric nimbus]

do u even need to lube ufos

[bleak jolt]

wait, let me get his straight. Here you are asking for what switches to go for and you dont even have a wooting?

my god you are going to have a nice time

[little glen]

If you dont have a big budget get the deep clack flux on aliexpress

They are fairly cheap rn for a top tier switch

[bleak jolt]

I agree

[little glen]

And then you can spend more money on other stuff

[silent wadi]

no but still

[cloud crane]

Alexotos getting XVX EC/HE switches 👀

[silent wadi]

i have an 80 he

[bleak jolt]

But honestly its not that big of a difference price wise unless u are in NA

[bleak jolt]

aha ok.

sorry my bad

[silent wadi]

all g

[uneven cradle]

I should try those 👀

[cloud crane]

Try em

Both my friends who get em say they're good

[uneven cradle]

I just got Raeds though because they were like $23 for 70

[silent wadi]

whats the diff between the ufos and novas

[little glen]

I dont think alexotos considered the following:

[cloud crane]

What is this reasoning 💀

[little glen]

Damn that was almost a year ago

[fluid ravine]

hell yeah

[fluid ravine]

did he change his name 😂

[little glen]

Looks like it

We should think of something to do on the anniversary of that message

[uneven cradle]

He had a third party plate and they were so loose they bounced out of the plate

[cloud crane]

Oh lol

[bleak jolt]

what am I watching ?

my eyes

[cloud crane]

Raeds moment

[broken notch]

That hurts my soul

[bleak jolt]

Man I cant wait to try out the ufo switches

[silent wadi]

i cant wait to try the novas

[bleak jolt]

I have a question. I just watched a video from wooting on how to lube switches. Now, in the video it is recommended to also lube the cylinder that is in center of the stem. I did not do that. Does that make a huge difference?

If it does: I will lube them all over again. Appreciate if someone can give me some answers

[silent wadi]

yeah its important

id recomend going back over it

[bleak jolt]

damn

[silent wadi]

ur g etting the ufos tho right? just wait for those

they have good factory lube

ive heard

[bleak jolt]

I will do it anyways, just out of curiosity

[silent wadi]

gl

[bleak jolt]

but to clarify, I did lube the top and buttom of the spring and the sides of the stem. just not the cylinder

[bleak jolt]

thanks

[silent wadi]

okok

lubing is such a pain

i dont think im ever going to lube another switch

factory lube is good enough

btw does anyone know what foam i should be putting in my board?

[broken notch]

Lubing switches is therapeutic

[bleak jolt]

I just lubed the cylinder of one switch and compared with one without

no difference

[silent wadi]

nah

[bleak jolt]

does a tape mod make sense for the wooting when it already comes with some sort of tape below the board?

[young viper]

Nope, unless you want to remove more sound, but it's not necessary at all

[bleak jolt]

thanks

so its even better to remove it. is that it ?

[young viper]

If you want a clean sound you totally could and then if you want it again you can either reapply that same tape or just use painters tape

[bleak jolt]

okay let me try it out, thank you

by clean sound you mean less dampening I guess ?

[fluid ravine]

Just a tip on lubing
Less is more, when do you know you overlubed? If your coating has clumps of white, you overlubed. A perfect coating should be thin and should be reflecting under the light.

What to lube? Bottom Housing stem rails, stem rails and stem pole, springs, top housing walls. (These points are where each parts of the switch make contact, they're the ideal source of smoothness/scratchiness)
Dampening the contact for sound? Bottom housing floor, top housing top out contact. Parts to avoid, bottom housing stem hole floor and stem magnet.

Here's a MX guide to knowing what part to lube or shouldnt lube. I know it's not HE but you can get a similiar idea. Greens are the contact points for smoothness, yellow is basically for dampening the sound contact when bottoming or topping out a switch. Red is where you should avoid.

[bleak jolt]

Alright, thank you for your Feedback and explainations

Appreciate it

[fluid ravine]

No problem

[strong seal]

Hey! So my 60 HE got damage and I need one asap to use my keyboard, can I use a custom USB-C to USB-C cable with that 4-pin core aviator connector in the middle of the cable or has to be a Wooting cable? Thanks a lot

[fluid ravine]

Should be able to no problem

[strong seal]

Im just affraid to burn any kind of components on the keyboard

[bleak jolt]

Any recommendations for ceramic keycaps ?

[cloud crane]

[silver iris]

when should i relube my brand new switches ?

[young viper]

As someone with ceramic keycaps. Don't.

[fluid ravine]

it's an option, you dont need to
Factory lube then and now have already been good and is better now. You can lube or spread the factory lube if you want but its only a 1% gain.

[silver iris]

Thank you for the clarification and explanation. I have always been wondering when should I lube the switches.

[bleak jolt]

Why that bad ?

[lyric nimbus]

as someone with ceramic keycaps also i think you have to be 100% sure that you want ceramic keycaps without a shadow of a doubt

[robust siren]

waiting for v49 ceramic caps

[young viper]

They're nice don't get me wrong, they made a super deep noise which is nice. But my only regret is not getting a different case for them because it leaves a super hollow empty noise in the center

[bleak jolt]

From what I heard it gives you the best deep thocky experience

I don’t know

[young viper]

So yeah get ceramic keycaps from cerakey, but you don't want the tofu redux for them

[fluid ravine]

deeeeeep thocccccyyyy

[lyric nimbus]

they have quality control issues

especially v3 cerakeys

their stems are FUCKED and have a pretty damn high chance of breaking

[robust siren]

also legends fade

[lyric nimbus]

what

[bleak jolt]

Okay understood

[robust siren]

but i dont think they can fix that

[lyric nimbus]

i thought cerakeys legends never fade

[young viper]

I've had no issues with my v3 cerakeys so far

[cloud crane]

Keykobo 🤤

[fluid ravine]

ceramic keycaps with a well controlled case reverb and sound would be the way to go

[fluid ravine]

they can

[lyric nimbus]

i thought they were baked in?

[robust siren]

its printed

[fluid ravine]

yea

[lyric nimbus]

or is this v3 cerakeys

and not v2

[robust siren]

arent they all printed

[young viper]

That's my experience with them and a layer of polyfil with tikkens.

[lyric nimbus]

no cerakey legends are baked in from my knowledge

so they can never fade

[young viper]

I don't believe so, maybe v1 was

[bleak jolt]

Sounds very nice

[silent wadi]

majestic

[lyric nimbus]

yeah they're baked in

[bleak jolt]

I still don’t get what u mean by empty noise

[silent wadi]

those dont sound like tikkens wtf

[bleak jolt]

Edited.

[young viper]

Around fgh it's super hollow

[silent wadi]

does anyone have a soundtest for a good nova build?

[bleak jolt]

I have similar problems. I don’t think it’s a keycap issue

[young viper]

Are you using the middle standoff on yours right now for the redux? It's friction fitted right?

It's the case

[bleak jolt]

Yes

It must be the case

[young viper]

It is. You want the silicone standoffs on the bottom of the pcb to touch the bottom of the case, it's impossible in the redux without grinding it down like thockson did

[robust siren]

they have the signature tikkens sound

need kois asap

[young viper]

I've done alot

[silent wadi]

like what? other than polyfill

[bleak jolt]

damn

[fluid ravine]

well i lowkey dont know how ceramic works in wavelength and shi when it comes to sound, atleast not yet. But I'm assuming with the weight of the keycaps and its material, it literally dampens most of the top out chatter making it less sharp than what you normally hear from the tikken while the bottom out still being muted.

[robust siren]

@fluid ravine koi church

[silent wadi]

keycap science

[cloud crane]

Time to bring out angle grinder

[young viper]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[bleak jolt]

My god

[cloud crane]

😛

[fluid ravine]

yup keycap science..
normally its just the keycap material from each manu that influences the sound like gmk vs kkb but since this is ceramic and its more heavier, it has a influence

[bleak jolt]

Is there any tutorial or video available doing that ?

[young viper]

It's the weight yeah, metal sounds really similar with the exception of the spacebar

[cloud crane]

Nah don't I'm just joking

[robust siren]

wait i wanna hear this again, dont mind me

[silent wadi]

i didnt even know keycaps when that deep

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/uhhh-uhh-gif-26658654

so much better on my 60%

[young viper]

THE KOIS ARE ON THE WAY GORE, CNY NEEDS TO HURRY UP AND END

[lyric nimbus]

i dont think they're that deep unless if you're picking exotic materials for your keycaps

i may be wrong

[silent wadi]

what did u do to this?

[cloud crane]

Let the CN folks rest 💀

[young viper]

Tungsten keycaps

[silent wadi]

ive never tried anything other than regular pbt

[robust siren]

its the stock tenz80he with koi switches (from china)

[bleak jolt]

I can’t play the file

[cloud crane]

Try GMK 😛

[silent wadi]

sooo expensive

[fluid ravine]

yeah it does
material, mold, types of mold, keycap profile, etc
although keycaps dont have a super huge influence on how the board sounds, the difference are still there and noticeable if you ears are tuned

[young viper]

Try gmk clones

[robust siren]

@fluid ravine deep fried the kois in the holy case

[cloud crane]

Second hand on mechmarket

[fluid ravine]

whats the material of the case again for this proto

[silent wadi]

do you still even get the benifits of having gmk?

[cloud crane]

Nah atp just get SWG

[lyric nimbus]

pla plastic

[silent wadi]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/keycaps/products/flower-cherry-profile-keycaps?_pos=7&_fid=accdf3aff&_ss=c these are my current keycaps

[young viper]

Idk, they just look neat

[cloud crane]

SWG is comparable to GMK

But not better

[silent wadi]

swg?

[cloud crane]

Swagkeys

[bleak jolt]

What is gmk

[fluid ravine]

nah
you get the theme and aesthetics but they wont sound like 1:1
another thing is the printing of the legends, they wont be as clean and crisp and most likely will see the imperfections

[young viper]

Idk if I've heard a keyboard sound angry before

[fluid ravine]

Keycap brand from germany

best known for their cherry profile and doubleshot abs and unique color pallete

[robust siren]

keykobo

[bleak jolt]

And they sound better or what ? What makes them so special now ?

[cloud crane]

https://swagkeys.com/products/swg-beige

[lyric nimbus]

ngl idk if it's me or the keys sound inconsistent throughout the board

[silent wadi]

this is rly nice

i wish it fit my build

[cloud crane]

🙂‍↕️

They have other colourways coming

[bleak jolt]

It is

[fluid ravine]

well ig wait until the whole thing is made in one piece

[silent wadi]

pink?

[cloud crane]

Maybe

[robust siren]

thats how it is on every keyboard

[silent wadi]

does gmk have any nice pink sets?

[lyric nimbus]

like

pretty inconsistent

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-excited-lets-watch-one-piece-gif-3375125404087240671

[lyric nimbus]

although it's kinda fine tbh

[cloud crane]

GMK Darling

[silent wadi]

also is there even a real difference between like a 40 dollar pbt set or gmk keycaps?

[fluid ravine]

yes

[silent wadi]

the red doesnt fit my build sadly :(((

[cloud crane]

Quality control

[robust siren]

https://www.keykobo.com/products/in-stockkeykobo-the-great-barrier-reef?variant=52751282209086

[bleak jolt]

That is ?

[robust siren]

kkb the 🐐

[silent wadi]

i mean more like a whit set with pink accents

[young viper]

Just mix and match parts from different sets

[silent wadi]

so expensive tho

[robust siren]

https://www.keykobo.com/collections/abs-double-shot-keycaps/products/in-stock-keykobo-lilies-of-the-valley?variant=52764225634622

[silent wadi]

not trynna buy two sets

[fluid ravine]

difference between $40 pbt and gmk?

[young viper]

You can just buy the alphas. You don't have to buy the whole set

[fluid ravine]

literally everything other than the profiles if they're both cherry
unless you want me to get more specific

[robust siren]

we sent the same one

[cloud crane]

Lol

[bleak jolt]

KKB over gmk ?

[cloud crane]

Both are good

[silent wadi]

alphas?

[fluid ravine]

both are great
can't really prefer one over the other icl

[robust siren]

gmk quality but a tiny bit cheaper

[cloud crane]

Just pick whatever that have the colourway you want

[robust siren]

i love my keykobo set

[sly palm]

am I stupid? what the fakk is this price

[young viper]

The middle keys

[bleak jolt]

Lord of mercy that is nice

[silent wadi]

where

[robust siren]

https://www.keykobo.com/collections/abs-double-shot-keycaps/products/in-stockkey-kobo-shirasagi?variant=51420956852542

[silent wadi]

idk seems like so much hasle

[cloud crane]

Usually means not up for sale yet

[robust siren]

out of stock tho

[silent wadi]

such a cool set

isnt pbt supposed to be better than abs?

[bleak jolt]

Sold out

[cloud crane]

https://divinikey.com/products/swg-nimbus-keycaps
SWG Nimbus is peak

[robust siren]

they have different sound signatures

[bleak jolt]

Cry

[sly palm]

I might be stupid but it looks like it is for sale

[cloud crane]

Preference

[silent wadi]

i didnt know keycaps mattered so much 😭

[robust siren]

of course the of keykobo sets https://www.keykobo.com/collections/abs-double-shot-keycaps/products/in-stock-keykobo-soju?variant=52029964747070

[cloud crane]

Sojuuuu

[bleak jolt]

It’s meant to be Rupies

[young viper]

Fuck I want those colors

[robust siren]

if i never had sojus id still buy it

[sly palm]

huh? the prices of the other sets are fine tho

[young viper]

I've spent so long looking for black/grey with gold

[bleak jolt]

Damn I can’t sleep now. I gotta find some new keycaps
4 am here by the way

[cloud crane]

Go sleep

[silent wadi]

idk i feel like its not worth spending 200 dollars for keycaps

[robust siren]

smash

[sly palm]

pay $9,999

[robust siren]

80he

someone sponsor me with a silver case

[cloud crane]

Then SWG/KKB might fit the bill for you

[bleak jolt]

People spend more on things like food. I mean who needs to eat if he can have new keycaps

[silent wadi]

none in the colorway i want

[young viper]

Only available for points redemption it says

[silent wadi]

wait, lowk true

i still cant find nice keycaps in the colors i want :P

[cloud crane]

You want white/pink right

[silent wadi]

yeah but like a light pink

[sly palm]

would looks so good

[silent wadi]

i love this set

[bleak jolt]

I WANT I WANF

[robust siren]

check out osume

[bleak jolt]

Where. How much, link ?

[robust siren]

theyre more into the pastel colors

[robust siren]

its the kbdfans gt-80

[silent wadi]

okok

[bleak jolt]

I want those keycaps

[sly palm]

best 80HE case imo

[robust siren]

probably pbtfans

[bleak jolt]

I bought the tofu60. Should’ve gone for a different one.

I’m not happy

[young viper]

How does one redeem points on kbdfans lol

[bleak jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/do-not-redeem-don't-redeem-scammer-kitboga-do-not-redeem-the-card-gif-11900855712098613254

[sly palm]

they are making a GT60v2 rn
you might take a look if its out

[bleak jolt]

Yes

[cloud crane]

https://divinikey.com/collections/keykobo/products/keykobo-nichirin-keycaps
Nichirin so goated

[silent wadi]

ty so much nice stuff

[bleak jolt]

I like

[cloud crane]

🙂‍↕️

[sly palm]

ohh my ass is stupid

[silent wadi]

iso layout just looks goofy to me

the enter is so big

[robust siren]

actually im not even sure which set they used for this photo

[bleak jolt]

Yes I agree

[cloud crane]

https://unikeyboards.com/products/keykobo-nichirin-abs-triple-shot-keycap-set-instock?variant=52068824351038
Latin base cheaper 89USD 👀

[robust siren]

i can do the funniest thing

ansi shift + iso enter

on my rakka

[sly palm]

when do they showcase the gt60v2? you have any information on that?

[robust siren]

nope

just that theyre not actively making the gt60

[bleak jolt]

Looks really nice

[cloud crane]

In design phase iirc

[robust siren]

why did they retire the gt60 in a year

[cloud crane]

Idk man

[sly palm]

cuz v2 will look better trust
imagine it will look like trash

[young viper]

I need 3900 points

More

[sly palm]

how do you get em?

[young viper]

Spending money

[silent wadi]

i still like this the most. the font and colors are just so nice

[robust siren]

if they add the ball catch itll be the best
if they ruin the looks then booo kbdfans

[sly palm]

yea but how much points you get for X money spend? `

[silent wadi]

im buying parts for custom 80 he tmrow guys :)))

[sly palm]

real, I hope it will look good, cuz it will be rough getting a GT60 then

[young viper]

5 points per dollar spent

Fuck okay so I need to spend 780 dollars

[sly palm]

good luck

[young viper]

Chump change

[robust siren]

d1 scamming

[silent wadi]

fr bro what

[young viper]

What's stopping me from just copying the designs and making my own keycaps lol

[robust siren]

1 point for 20c

[silent wadi]

or buying cheap clones on aliexpress

[robust siren]

whos gonna print the caps

oh yeah

my taobao generic keycaps are better than aliexpress clones

man that clone set was god awful

[silent wadi]

ive been sleeping on taobao ngl

[cloud crane]

Dyesub machines are expensive

[cloud crane]

Fr taobao so much good stuff

[robust siren]

well sleep on it some more if you dont have a chinese ID or have a forwarder

[young viper]

I can't find clones

[sly palm]

I might get my 60HEv2 this week already if DHL doesn't fuck me again

[silent wadi]

:(

[cloud crane]

Superbuy

[silent wadi]

is it even worth the hastle

[cloud crane]

Yes

[robust siren]

yes

[silent wadi]

fair

[robust siren]

my switches are my #1 rn

[silent wadi]

what switches

[robust siren]

kois are the 🐐

[silent wadi]

ive never even heard of kois

[robust siren]

exactly

because theyre only available in china

[cloud crane]

I can get exclusive CN switches via taobao 🤤

[silent wadi]

do you have other swityches to compare kois to?

[robust siren]

and as of rn im the only one who has them in this server

[silent wadi]

thats it im moving

[robust siren]

i have AGS Radiants, WS Flux, WS Flux Deep Clacky, Tikkens, Lekker v1.5, and some others

[silent wadi]

how are they next to the deep clackys?

[cloud crane]

https://e.tb.cn/h.7zy5C3L8OWChk0u
I'm hard 🤤

[robust siren]

kois ruined deep clacky for me

[silent wadi]

they cant be that good 😭

[robust siren]

deep clacky top out sound is no where near as clean sounding as kois

[young viper]

Deep clackys are cheap af now

Koi rgbs coming soon, cerakois

[silent wadi]

how did u even find out about the kois

[robust siren]

amazing

[robust siren]

i was in china for vacation

[cloud crane]

Paste link into superbuy

[silent wadi]

dudeee thats so smart

[robust siren]

plane ticket is 1200

cheapest

[silent wadi]

so you ordered them off taobao when u were in china ??

[robust siren]

yeah

of course

[silent wadi]

i mean if its worth it

[robust siren]

i got tons of other stuff while i was there

[silent wadi]

how hard is it really to get something in us from taobao

i know you can pay someone to buy it then send it to you

there is like a service

[robust siren]

you have to use Superbuy

[robust siren]

MX switches

[silent wadi]

is there like a percent of how much the item is or sum?

[cloud crane]

My canada friends know how to use superbuy so that's something

[cloud crane]

MX forever goat

[robust siren]

you pay item price and shipping, after they recieve it you pay shipping from china to the US

[cloud crane]

3.8mm full nylon 🤤

[silent wadi]

so what does the person get? nothing?

[robust siren]

i think thats how it works, i havent used superbuy yet

[silent wadi]

i wonder how kois stack up to novas/ufos

[robust siren]

https://www.superbuy.com/en/page/guide/feecomposition/

[silent wadi]

do u have sound test?

[robust siren]

i dont have novas or ufos

[silent wadi]

really tempting

[robust siren]

novas are hella expensive and i know i wont like ufos so i wont bother

[silent wadi]

why dont you think you will like ufos?

ive never tried them

[bleak jolt]

Wait. I ordered the ufo switches from via superbuy and they asked for my address in the order. So do I need to pay extra again or what am I missing here ?

[robust siren]

to me theyre too loud but its fine for other people

[silent wadi]

they come back in stock so soon i would have just waited

[young viper]

I wouldn't have

[silent wadi]

i kinda want them cause i like higher force

i used to use 55g actuation

[robust siren]

im pretty sure you do once the person recieves it but like i said, i havent used superbuy

maybe @humble surge can tell you

[silent wadi]

@robust siren

[robust siren]

of kois? yeah

[young viper]

Your going to pay twice. Once now for the value of the actual product. Then once the agent picks it up and send you pictures, you'll pay again just for shipping.

[silent wadi]

send

[young viper]

It was sent earlier

[silent wadi]

bro im not trynna scroll up

[bleak jolt]

And how much is shipment usually ?

[silent wadi]

ty

DUDE

TAKE MY MONEY

[robust siren]

thats a different build and i dont like it in the 80he

[young viper]

I'm in the us so it's going to vary a ton, but embolia has had it at around 15 dollars for switches and a mouse

[silent wadi]

?? why

[robust siren]

thats the one i just sent

[sly palm]

Btw, why don't you use the split space bar on your rakka gore?

[bleak jolt]

Damn. I should’ve just gone ahead with gravastar… same prices

[robust siren]

i dont have foam sandwich pad

im still stuck on silicone right now

[silent wadi]

oh

[robust siren]

i dont have soju blue split 7u spacebars

[silent wadi]

dude i might superbuy the kois

i litteraly was going to pay for my build tmrow

[sly palm]

Oh yea fair enough
What do you prefer tho?

[silent wadi]

now i gotta superbuy the kois

[robust siren]

white # row and blue everything
clear caps and enter for variety

[young viper]

You don't get kewl silver though

[silent wadi]

i dont think ive heard a build sound this good

[bleak jolt]

I got the purples. But it’s fine.

[robust siren]

the main problem is the spacebar

[sly palm]

Imma talking about the space bar
Soju is superior anyways and I love your rakka lmao

[robust siren]

i fucking hate yikb 7u spacebar

[silent wadi]

sounds good to me

[robust siren]

im gonna blow it up

[silent wadi]

do you know the actuation on the kois?

[robust siren]

i think it has 3.3mm of range

[robust siren]

i dont really have a preference for the spacebar layout

[silent wadi]

i mean like grams of force

mb

[robust siren]

anyways i gotta go shovel some snow

[young viper]

I would sell my v2 for a rakka just so I could freely move in between split and non because it's hard to commit

[robust siren]

uhhhhhh........ 50?

[silent wadi]

same. im doing it in the morning

[robust siren]

its heavier than the tenz tikkens

[silent wadi]

bro these sound perfect

[robust siren]

50 or 55

im not sure

[sly palm]

Might just throw a napalm airstrike on it
anyways enjoy

[robust siren]

i live across the woods

[silent wadi]

how much do they cost?

[cloud crane]

[robust siren]

i dont think napalm is a good idea

[silent wadi]

probably a fortune with superbuy

[bleak jolt]

What is rakka that much better ?

[young viper]

Mine are 25 before shipping with superbuy

[robust siren]

it was like 20 bucks for 70 switches

[sly palm]

Do it for democracy

[robust siren]

rakka is just a pcb
it has every layout you can think of

[young viper]

It's same as wooting with a lesser software experience, but complete modularity

[robust siren]

you can do ANSI, ISO
split every large key

[silent wadi]

oh you have them too? do you have novas? if so how do they compare

[young viper]

They're on the way

[robust siren]

anyways ill be back later

[young viper]

The koi rgbs

[silent wadi]

also 25 dollars? thats so cheap dude

[young viper]

I have the koi rgb link (newer than what gore is using which I ordered) or the same kois that gore has and it's not sold through superbuy

[cloud crane]

Yeah kois are more similar to mx switch pricing

After so long

[silent wadi]

:))))

lmk what u think when u get them

[young viper]

https://kibushop.com/en-us/products/jinyun-device-koi-switch?srsltid=AfmBOooYngkgnf3eBL_EV_iYtPRQ_Yim34Ce_CrecPLcXLtsiMWe3-eQ

Those are the ones gore is using

LMAOO

[silent wadi]

what website is this

[young viper]

@robust siren Theyre on sale for 10 bucks a set of 35

[silent wadi]

do they ship to america?

[young viper]

Probably

Currency is USD and they use shop so it's reliable

[silent wadi]

whats the difference between the rgb and the ones gore has other than the rgb

[silent wadi]

maybe i wont have to use superbuy

[young viper]

Clear

[silent wadi]

thats what i thought

[young viper]

Probably a sound difference also, won't know till they get here

[cloud crane]

iirc pink kois are the typical pc top/pom stem/pa66 bottom, while koi rgb is pa12 top/bottom with pom stem

[silent wadi]

3.3 mm total travel

thats nice

4 mm hurts my fingers

[cloud crane]

4mm feels nice

[silent wadi]

i dont like it

[cloud crane]

Fair enough

Preference is king

[silent wadi]

i think its from playing geometry dash

[cloud crane]

I play osu with 4mm switches no problem

🤔

[silent wadi]

i think its different

i click really hard

and play for a bunch of hours a day

[cloud crane]

Yeah if you bottom out that's different

[silent wadi]

yeah i do

most people do

[cloud crane]

Mmm

[silent wadi]

it feels more precise

[silent wadi]

yeah you can order thwese kois to us without the superbuy thing

im so excited

[young viper]

the base ones? sweet

[silent wadi]

yep

i dont really care about rgb so i dont mind

lowk i might buy novas and kois

the kois are cheap enough to the point where i dont rly mind

[robust siren]

this is a steal

im ordering rn

i have to

[silent wadi]

and they ship everywhere

so convieniet

[robust siren]

140 for $55

tho i dont need that much

[silent wadi]

litterally the most underatted he of all time

[robust siren]

actually i dont think i can order atm

[silent wadi]

why?

[robust siren]

ill order it another time

[uneven cradle]

Cheap good HE switches might be Taobao time

[robust siren]

when i buy stuff for my 80he later

[silent wadi]

lowk i might wait for @young viper to get them and compare them to novas

[young viper]

I don't own novas lol

[silent wadi]

istg you said you did

[robust siren]

the koi supremacy must expand

[young viper]

I said I know where to get them cheap lol

[cloud crane]

https://youtu.be/JnugFlEAp7g
A lot of switches here (unfortunately no kois )

[silent wadi]

ty

8 views

[cloud crane]

Its new

[silent wadi]

ttc flip kom sounds rly nice

[cloud crane]

They sure are one of the better sounding ones

[silent wadi]

i dont agree with a lot of these opinoins tho

[cloud crane]

Everyones opinions are diff

Don't have to agree with em all

Preference hobby

[glacial wind]

Josh is more on custom keyboard side of things so he’s not quite the same demo with all preferences for switches

[silent wadi]

why deep clacks b tier :(

[cloud crane]

Personal preference ig

[fluid ravine]

i'd put them A to B tier myself

[glacial wind]

just how it goes with heavy preference based stuff, especially if stability and such aren’t factors and you’re basing mainly off sound

[silent wadi]

what switches do you like

[fluid ravine]

im a fraken boy

[cloud crane]

Frankens 🔥

[fluid ravine]

but i do have some interest in the kois myself but otherwise all the switches i've been into are frakensteined combos

[silent wadi]

thats like a combination of switches?

[fluid ravine]

so i dont count

[fluid ravine]

yes

[silent wadi]

what switches

[glacial wind]

If you want general community preferences you can check our modding faq, that’s based on just general community sentiment and stability

[silent wadi]

do you combine

[glacial wind]

So those sound preferences may match a bit more depending on what you like

[fluid ravine]

Duhuk, geon raw, and tikkens

[silent wadi]

how do you combine them

[fluid ravine]

gosh josh's mic is vibrating so hard xd

[silent wadi]

im actually really curious

[fluid ravine]

just take each compatible parts and just mix them up

[silent wadi]

that sounds so fun

[fluid ravine]

i use Duhuk Top housing, Geon Raw Stem, 65g 22mm spring, and tikken bottom housing

[silent wadi]

u have sound test?

[cloud crane]

Yeah he did say he needed to get his mic setup fixed

[fluid ravine]

oh i prob missed it mb

[fluid ravine]

yeah

i have quite a lot

[silent wadi]

send

[fluid ravine]

gimme momento

[silent wadi]

okok

[fluid ravine]

i have more but these are just the same build with different plate materials

[tropic urchin]

@fluid ravine plates arrive Wednesday

[cloud crane]

👀

[silent wadi]

ive seen two of the best soundtest on he switches today

the kois and these

how do you even find out that these switches sound good together

[tropic urchin]

Now let’s hope my bottom accent screws in

[robust siren]

a lot of testing

[silent wadi]

i think this is how the hobby gets expensive

for each switch you have to buy 3 switches

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[young viper]

This hobby has made my hearing 3 times as sensitive

[silent wadi]

real

[fluid ravine]

i wouldnt recommend but i've already had these down the line so ive been experimenting

[robust siren]

[fluid ravine]

im still unsure to pick up kois

[robust siren]

do it

you need at least 300pcs

[silent wadi]

im never calculating how much money i spent on stupid hobbies

i know i will be sad

[silent wadi]

no reason not to

[robust siren]

lum said its 50% off rn
https://kibushop.com/en-us/products/jinyun-device-koi-switch?srsltid=AfmBOooYngkgnf3eBL_EV_iYtPRQ_Yim34Ce_CrecPLcXLtsiMWe3-eQ

[fluid ravine]

yeah im aware

[silent wadi]

international shipping im p sure

[fluid ravine]

i saw it on shop

[thorn zealot]

I’m sure u can pick up some for me

[cloud crane]

Koiiiiis

[young viper]

Dude 10 bucks for 35, you literally can't beat that

[thorn zealot]

I’m still on ti hes and want some better

[silent wadi]

true

its only 30 bucks man

[robust siren]

only gigacheap switches like MMD c1s and UR Ice Ultras compete at that price

[silent wadi]

i spent that much on lunch a few days ago

[fluid ravine]

its 31 for me but yeah

[young viper]

That's like 29 cents a switch before taxes and shipping

[fluid ravine]

pretty cheap

[young viper]

That's a quarter a switch basically

[silent wadi]

the thockson you have some serious dedication

[robust siren]

thockson no thock
he clacks

[fluid ravine]

look at my about me

[fluid ravine]

i do thanks!

[silent wadi]

:)

[young viper]

Thockson would you spend 31 dollars to make a little kid in a foreign country happy knowing you bought the switches that he spent the last week making

[robust siren]

some serious addiction*

[silent wadi]

lolol

[cloud crane]

👀

[young viper]

That's 31 dollars for happiness

[robust siren]

my cousin made those fr

[young viper]

Not switches

😊

Happiness

[glacial wind]

5 hours till geon kr sale hooray

[cloud crane]

Black snailllll

[silent wadi]

how much per switch is the duhuk geon raw tikken combo

[fluid ravine]

my english aint englishing rn

[young viper]

Sno you should buy kois since they're dirt cheap rn for testing

[fluid ravine]

OH

HAHHAHA

u funny

[glacial wind]

They’ve always been cheap, problem is they don’t sell internationally so it makes them not useful to test if our buyers can’t buy them

[silent wadi]

they do

[young viper]

Jinyun doesn't ship international?

[silent wadi]

https://kibushop.com/en-us/products/jinyun-device-koi-switch

[glacial wind]

Not easily. And if I do koi’s I want koi rgb

[silent wadi]

they have us shipping

[silent wadi]

fair

[fluid ravine]

i want to try these too

[glacial wind]

Regular koi isn’t that interesting and too niche

[silent wadi]

wdym isnt that interesting

and too niche

how can it be too niche

[glacial wind]

Usually if I test a switch I want it to be something we can put on our mod list and people can buy easily from few places

[fluid ravine]

its similar to the owlab ti he

material wise

mold wise it can be similar to slightly better

[glacial wind]

I don’t really test the mainly China only switches

[cloud crane]

Tbh PC top, POM stem and PA66 bottom combo is everywhere

[young viper]

Sno I'll send you a single koi rgb if I can get a signed tikken

[silent wadi]

it sounds different

[fluid ravine]

honestly there aren't that enough sound tests to compare

only one in this server that has a sound test is gore

[glacial wind]

well I can order them myself from taobao, but problem is our users can’t be using superbuy just to buy switches we recommend lol

[fluid ravine]

and thats not enough source to compare

[robust siren]

and i dont have owlabs

[young viper]

I could probably set up a sound test environment, just need to mount my mic above my desk

[fluid ravine]

i have good ears my self but gore doesn't have enough switches that are similiar to compare to

[glacial wind]

Usually I want it to appear at least on aliexpress first

[robust siren]

yeah all my switches are very different

[fluid ravine]

yeup

[robust siren]

which is kinda a good thing

[glacial wind]

then users at least have a fairly easy to access place to buy from

[silent wadi]

true

[fluid ravine]

[silent wadi]

we need someone with a lot of switches to get them

[robust siren]

unfortunately i dont have the connections like sno
and i really dont wanna drop more money on modding keyboards other than getting a case and MAYBE a plate for the 80he

[fluid ravine]

sno did aligner say he gonna order koi rgb?

[glacial wind]

honestly they’re just not anything that really stands out is the thing

[cyan lark]

Is koi the new ufo?

[glacial wind]

I assume he’d get them as he just has his Japanese friend send a few of every switch

[sly palm]

Are we sure, you don't wanna spend more?

[fluid ravine]

the new ufo is wild 😭

why the new ufo

[silent wadi]

different from ufo

[fluid ravine]

terms of trend?

[glacial wind]

Nah they’re mx stem so unlikely to ever become that big

[fluid ravine]

if you mean trend maybe not yet

[cyan lark]

ah

[fluid ravine]

but i doubt it will be

again like sno said there's switches similiar to its setup

koi rgb might be interesting so we'll see

[robust siren]

yeah theres a bit of wobble but i personally dont mind it

[silent wadi]

oof

im p senstive to wobble

[fluid ravine]

oh damn

i personally dont care about wobble at this time around

[robust siren]

wait wtf am i saying

im using tikkens rn

[silent wadi]

oh lol

[fluid ravine]

HE wobble been good enough lately

[robust siren]

the mind control

[fluid ravine]

i dont even mind the geon raws

[glacial wind]

He users are too stability focused for a lot of non walled stem switches to become mainstream these days outside of the enthusiast circles

[fluid ravine]

sigh

[robust siren]

its less wobbly than tikkens

[silent wadi]

tikken wobble not that bad

[glacial wind]

like we focus on sound but average user come in asking will want both

[fluid ravine]

well there you have it folks

[robust siren]

if you think tikken wobble isnt bad than kois will be fine

[silent wadi]

good

[fluid ravine]

i think my fraken build rn has some decent wobble

[robust siren]

i can record a demo rq

[glacial wind]

I think problem is tikken is a stock switch and unique for its 4mm thing so that’s why it gets away with being another mx style switch

[silent wadi]

dude now i cant decide between novas herz owlab and kois

the options are expanding

[fluid ravine]

its very geon raw-tikken like
but it doesn't sound nearly close imo on the top out

[fluid ravine]

herz and owlab are the same switch

recolor

[robust siren]

hmm

the video doesnt show wobble too well

[glacial wind]

Besides the herz and owlabs the rest are all totally different switches lol

[fluid ravine]

i still need to get more info on the nova

[sly palm]

Well the longer you look around the more options you find

[silent wadi]

i dont understand recolors....

[silent wadi]

true

[fluid ravine]

same switch, different color
exactly as it sounds

[silent wadi]

when i started looking i thought i was for sure going to buy jades

[fluid ravine]

oop

outdateddd

[glacial wind]

Nova are just better lubed polar pro+ sound with pa12 base basically

[silent wadi]

i know, but why

[fluid ravine]

gotcha

[fluid ravine]

just cus 😂

[robust siren]

ohhhhhh my god the kois sound so good after not using it for a while

[fluid ravine]

for the sake of comparison

[silent wadi]

so kois are like owlab ti which are like duhuk herz

[fluid ravine]

that's what i do wheni think my he boards sound bad

i use a config that sounds even worse

for a while

[robust siren]

[fluid ravine]

then later go back, and glaze tf out of it

it feels so good

i even did the same with the plates

[silent wadi]

i used to do that with fps in games

[robust siren]

except i know that the koi build sounds heavenly

[cloud crane]

Koi glaze is real

[silent wadi]

when my game felt choppy i played on low fps and then went back

[silent wadi]

yes it is

[robust siren]

oh my god

[robust siren]

its reasonable

[silent wadi]

glaze is worth it

[silent wadi]

FR

[fluid ravine]

is it really that good?
like i know i've put hella hella interest into it ever since you got it and posted the first sound test, i didn't give it much thought, but the more i think about it, im like how much big of a difference would it make

[robust siren]

ill do a koi and tikken side by side

in the same video

[silent wadi]

okok

[robust siren]

give me a few minutes

[fluid ravine]

i guess that works

[thorn zealot]

Don’t u have the radiants

[robust siren]

ags radiants are flat

[sly palm]

Ooh ping me when you post it
I might fall asleep soon

[thorn zealot]

Or was that someone else here

[robust siren]

i do have them

[glacial wind]

I still think ufo overall one of cleanest sounds for the newer gen of switches, just they’re heavy feeling due to tightness

[cloud crane]

Radiants are just fine, nothing mind blowing

[silent wadi]

tbh i like heavy switches

[fluid ravine]

the bottom housing size is interesting

[cloud crane]

Gimme 100g

[silent wadi]

not a fan of ufos

[fluid ravine]

the whole structure itself is interesting

[silent wadi]

they are too hard to lube

[thorn zealot]

Like flat soundin compared to kois?

[fluid ravine]

can't even lube them

[robust siren]

compared to everything

[glacial wind]

All hmx switches are flat

[silent wadi]

its possible

[glacial wind]

They just have this flat kind of sound note

[silent wadi]

with like a screwdriver or sum

[robust siren]

kois are more poppy and clacky

wait i cant record cause my brother is yelling

[cloud crane]

Muh sunset gleams

[thorn zealot]

Say no more where do I cop

[fluid ravine]

unfortunately

[fluid ravine]

shafie broke a few doing so

[fluid ravine]

MAHHHH SUNSET GLEEEMSSS

[cloud crane]

😛

[glacial wind]

I think average Joe probably doesn’t care much though, because they barely notice that it sounds flatter

[silent wadi]

and thats why i wont be getting them

[thorn zealot]

Wait how stable are kois

[haughty shoal]

They got Pink UFO Switches now

[silent wadi]

???

[sly palm]

Gore said they are less wobbly than tikkens earlier

[cloud crane]

Yet. another. recolour.

[silent wadi]

and tikken wobble is pretty good

[glacial wind]

I think if you buy any mx stem switch you just understand that the wobble typically has limits unless they’re the hmx style design

[thorn zealot]

Good enough

[silent wadi]

btw opinions on tmr keyboard? havent heard much about them other than they exist

[cloud crane]

Let tmr mature first

[glacial wind]

Basically technology hasn’t proven to be better yet for most needs

[silent wadi]

you can use mx switches and like he mx switches

thats cool

(from what i know)

[glacial wind]

Yeah that’s basically their main benefit. That and technical you might be able to figure out power savings better to do wireless

[robust siren]

@sly palm

[haughty shoal]

At this point their are only 3 brands that make TMR Keyboards and they all have problems besides one imo

[sly palm]

Ohh that was faster than I thought

[robust siren]

its like a sentence

[silent wadi]

KOIS ARE BEAUTFIUL

[glacial wind]

From the point of performance though the technology hasn’t proven to be better. We were both faster and more accurate in the rtings test of 60he v2 vs fun60 ultra tmr

so it still needs to be proven that it’s actually better for usage

[silent wadi]

what else did you do to it other than koi switches?

[robust siren]

its an fr4 plate, doublehsot ABS keycaps,KBDfans GT-60 case, 1 layer tape mod, 1 layer of case foam

[silent wadi]

ty

[robust siren]

the kois sound kinda off in that sound recording

[sly palm]

The fun60 was a pretty solid and cheap HE board right? Like i saw some rewievs on it, not the ultra tmr yet tho

[robust siren]

why does it sound so distant

ill have to redo that recording tomorrow

[sly palm]

[silent wadi]

good enough

[sly palm]

dr waffles, please don't get a cramp in your fingers from typing

[haughty shoal]

If you looking for a TMR Keyboard is just better to wait The Fun60 TMR can brick it self, Skylongs Sofware is horrible, Womier havent heard any problems

[robust siren]

but yeah out of all the switches i own kois are the favorite and the glaze is warranted for the price

[haughty shoal]

Keychrons he is tmr they just market it as he

[silent wadi]

cause he gets all the attention

it will take a while for tmr to catch up to he

[glacial wind]

The thing is I’ve been researching tmr for a proper in depth video/blog I’m making

[sly palm]

Dude, does the koi switches pay you or something
You made thockson wanting them, and lowkey I am getting interested too now

[glacial wind]

And every YouTuber who references tmr has their reference as ChatGPT or the literal tmr ad from the tmr sensor manufacturer

[robust siren]

lemme see if i remember all my switches

[silent wadi]

the koi pays him in majestic sounds

[glacial wind]

People just flat out don’t understand tmr and are very mistaken on what it does and what its advantages are

[silent wadi]

i dont understand tmr

[robust siren]

kois
mmd c1
ur ice ultra
ws flux (mobius recolor)
ws flux deep clacky
ags radiants
tenz tikkens
v2 founders tikkens (prob dont count)
lekker v1.5
geon raws

i think thats it

[glacial wind]

And the top most popular videos on tmr don’t understand it either because their reference was incorrect for keyboards too

[sly palm]

Huh the blog sounds interesting. I think I will watch it

[silent wadi]

im excited to see what comes of tmr

[robust siren]

im free marketing

koi propaganda

[lyric nimbus]

i thought tmr could be easily summarized as just

[haughty shoal]

TMR is a slight improvement over he but every single keyboard on market using them don't use their advantage to the fullest theirs always some sort of drawback

[sly palm]

I see, you could get paid at this point

[robust siren]

multiple people are getting kois

[glacial wind]

The problem is the areas where tmr has the advantage don’t matter right now

[silent wadi]

also i dont think i would use the advantages of tmr

[lyric nimbus]

"too far precise to the point that humans will not be able to notice a tangible difference between TMR and HE (and there isn't that much difference in power usage because you need to amplify the signals anyways)"

[silent wadi]

its not like i would be switching the switches i use

[silent wadi]

i think humans can tell the difference

[glacial wind]

It’s more accurate in some very specific usages at say 0.01mm, which no human can even use anyway

[robust siren]

you will if you get into keyboard modding

[glacial wind]

So no one can use the area where it works better, and on the noise front it may not even be better

[silent wadi]

i kinda mean switch between mx and he

i switch switches all the time lol

but i would rather just have 2 keyboards

atp

[robust siren]

i need to get a cf plate for my rakka

maybe ill get cf for the 80he and test kois on it

[silent wadi]

yes

[robust siren]

since i have to order a custom cut plate for the rakka

but 80he mods are a long time away

[sly palm]

Get the GT80 with the CF plate
I wanna see how it will look

[haughty shoal]

TMR Power wise its only slightly better doesn't really matter if you have rgb on all the time better to just have a bigger battery

[glacial wind]

This is the popular tmr model vs 60he v2

[robust siren]

silver or black cf

[uneven cradle]

So if those goes lower you'd notice it

[sly palm]

For you? Silver

[robust siren]

maybe ill do white sojus and use 7u split white

[silent wadi]

OwO

i take it back

[robust siren]

or this?

[uneven cradle]

You also have to have some kind of buffer or deadzone or your inputs are going to be cooked at those distances

[glacial wind]

Hrm Sen hired ewok. At least we know the new Sen coach is a Wooting user

[sly palm]

Why there no blue Split space bar?

[robust siren]

i didnt buy it

its another $20 before shipping

ive already dropped $200 on sojus altogether

[glacial wind]

That’s a mere $10 per spare spacebar key

[silent wadi]

i heard some switches dont work well with wooting

[robust siren]

and now im just missing the korean sublegend alphas and the spacebar kit

[silent wadi]

are kois good performance wise?

[glacial wind]

Which ones?

[robust siren]

wooting auto calibrates switches

[glacial wind]

Koi if they use a normal magnet should work well

[silent wadi]

i think sticky rice

[robust siren]

im not even sure what the magetic strength is

oh here it is

[glacial wind]

Performance wise if you want the best performance then stick to switches in our switch selector or switches that will be added to it

[robust siren]

idk if thats normal or not

[cloud crane]

https://omnitype.com/collections/keycaps/products/gmk-burgundy-cyl
Oml burgundy is back 👀

[robust siren]

[silent wadi]

switch selector?

[glacial wind]

The difference between a switch in our switch selector vs old model is about 10x

[robust siren]

@silent wadi its 47g bottom out

[glacial wind]

Yes if you go to the beta software there is a switch selector

[silent wadi]

thx

[robust siren]

but it feels a lot heavier than it is

[haughty shoal]

Will Ufo's be added to the switch selector in the future

[uneven cradle]

Out of all the HE keyboards Wooting has the most broad support of HE switches, a lot of them don't even have auto calibration

[glacial wind]

Switches inside there have their magnetic curve modelled better, which allows it to be less deadzone

[glacial wind]

Already planned to be added

[silent wadi]

how many are there?

[glacial wind]

In fact I’m on the way to dhl now to mail out next batch of switches for the selector

[robust siren]

i just let my rakka auto calibrate kois

[glacial wind]

I mean you can have a look yourself if you go to beta site

There’s quite a lot

[robust siren]

@glacial wind which switch would this be closest to

[glacial wind]

I help pick the switches we add, so any popular community ones get added

[robust siren]

in terms of magnet strength

[uneven cradle]

even in beta it has more options in the switch selector than all competitors

[silent wadi]

novas?

[glacial wind]

Probably any of the basic owlab ti he curves, but I haven’t checked koi magnet so I don’t know

[glacial wind]

They are in the incoming batch

[silent wadi]

yesss

im assuming kois wont be added

[cloud crane]

Will you be getting the Omnitype Heron HE switches

[glacial wind]

Nova, ufo, ttc horse, ttc flip among the current ones being added soon

[cloud crane]

👀

[glacial wind]

Probably never

[robust siren]

[sly palm]

Not even for Gore?

[glacial wind]

Yeah assuming it’s readily available

[silent wadi]

wdym modeled better

how have i not heard of this

[glacial wind]

Means we custom record those switches so it starts off very accurate

Vs needing to auto calibrate and not being able to get quite as accurate

[robust siren]

kois not special enough