🔧│keyboard_modding

[little glen]

split space 80he and split ergo board pls

[fringe quarry]

center usbc 60he and optimum case

[peak breach]

Premium 80he case

Owlabs collab

Also a knob update

[quasi hinge]

Yeah we need a knob update

80he split pcb and knob then im done

[peak breach]

I need a premium case for my 80 and a knob

Then it’s done

I rly like my ow60 but i miss the keys of the 80

[crystal rose]

what keycap should i use?

[dapper hazel]

can give you later but it’s exactly TGR alice size + ~8mm — alice is a symmetric layout so if it’s not an alice but an arisu (right longer than left side) it won’t fit right, 65% size would work better then

fits: Neo Ergo, Poly Alice (Police), Dolphin Alice (Dolice), Aburaya, Adagio, Alter, Amano, Arya, Austere, Avery, Ælith, Bahm Evelyn, BuzzSaw, Cheshire, Coloralice, Doma, Ellya, Ergo 160, Ergodicity, Erisu, Fallacy, Gaïa, Gaia, Hinoki, Hotter Take, Jergo, Kōkua, Lumos, Nasu, Nunu, OSA, ORI Genesis, Poly Nunu, Poverty Alice, Praxis, Qlavier Quasi Alice, Rotund, Rukia, Samice, Sesame, SMAlice, Sneakbox MGA & AVA, Switch Couture ElectroType Acrylic Alice, TKC Alice, Teclado Alicia, Tengu, Wampus Fossil, Wildcard, Yeti, Zamol Alice, Zhou Alice

:D

[pliant tinsel]

Does the stock wooting 60he+ got a screw in stab pcb?

Bcs the seller wrote this and now im confused

[fallen pecan]

plate mount if prebuilt, screw in if module

[pliant tinsel]

Wait so do i need to leave a message or is it correct

[fallen pecan]

is yours a prebuilt or module?

[pliant tinsel]

Prebuilt but i changed like switches, case and stuff

[fallen pecan]

did you change stabs/plate?

[broken notch]

89he with knobs and split spacebar would be big

[pliant tinsel]

Nono i didnt

Still got the stock stabs and plate

[fallen pecan]

then ask them for plate mount

[pliant tinsel]

Alright did thank you!

So basically the stabs that i got in rn are non screw ins?

[fallen pecan]

yours are plate mount

[pliant tinsel]

Got it, thank you for helping out

[broken notch]

Wtf are these

My friend sent me this

[fallen pecan]

latenpow denggod golds

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[tropic urchin]

@sacred elm absolute cinema

[broken notch]

Jeez

[west ore]

Not sure if we can mention non-Wooting shops, but any EU recommendations for PBT keycaps for a 60HE v2 split?

split version

[broken notch]

2mm, what the heccie

[broken notch]

You just need to make sure they have the extra keys

There are many vendors

[fallen pecan]

i think we ignore the 2mm since HE

[west ore]

ok thanks a lot

[glacial wind]

You’d get hit by taxes since non eu, but Wuque is doing doubleshot pbt basic sets with split keys included right now for $49

Might still be worth looking at even after taxes added since it’s on sale

I know a few Wooting members bought some ourselves because 1.25u split spacebar key in doubleshot pbt is not easy to find

[lusty river]

is there a list by any chance with all popular mods you can do for the wooting 60he+ ? thanks!!

[glacial wind]

It’s not that long honestly. Keycap, switches, case, stabilizers and that’s your top 4

Then some minor ones like tape mod and spacebar foam

[broken notch]

Don't forget swag cable

It only changes style

[lusty river]

thank you! do you think switching to a fr4 plate would make a big difference?

and how does the spacebar foam thing work? never heard about that

[glacial wind]

Oh yeah I missed plate. Plate is a common one too

[glacial wind]

It’s literally just foam with sticky tape that aliexpress/amazon and other places sell for a few dollars

Makes your spacebar sound resonate less

[lusty river]

I see! thank you!!

[dapper hazel]

google image search

https://youtube.com/shorts/HEuLpNhVkCM

pretty old

[pliant tinsel]

24k gold switch

[sacred elm]

it's not 2mm

[fast crow]

C

[humble surge]

So sad they only decided to put it up for sale now, but getting a set after CNY anyway. Btw these are electroplated, thats the extent of "gold".

[west ore]

In your opinion, which case do you prefer out of the three — the standard aluminum, the Alumaze, or the Optimum?

[sacred elm]

Optimum, because I use it

v2 case is also good

[west ore]

Thanks, I’m leaning toward that one too, but I have zero experience.

[sacred elm]

not a fan of Alumaze personally

[robust siren]

gt-60

[young viper]

Cali in the us

[west ore]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gBB6rQvq23k Another question — I love this cable in this color, but I don’t see it in the store.

[sacred elm]

https://wooting.io/product/detachable-cable?Color=Take+Control

[west ore]

the one in the video is black and orange

[sacred elm]

EU?

I think it's out of stock in EU

[west ore]

yes, I see

But I like this one too — not as much, but it still looks cool.

[little glen]

yeah i cant see take control either over here

seems to be oos

[sacred elm]

60HE v2 cable has similar color, but it's not coiled. If you specifically want coiled then wait for the restock. I don't know when it's going to be available though.

[west ore]

“Thanks everyone — I’ve got everything figured out now. Time to order and wait a month… 😅

[glossy pagoda]

I don't think the take control colorway is going back in stock once it's sold out

White is coming back in the US though, as early as tomorrow if I get around to it

[little glen]

is it getting replaced with the eminem collab "lose control" cable

[glossy pagoda]

And without a price increase, despite my preference to pass through the increased tariff costs... We're eating that, you're welcome >_>

[autumn creek]

Two more years of this bull honky, maybe

Who knows what the next pedo elite does with the power, remove the tariffs or even increase them 🤷‍♂️

[humble surge]

Ohh okay, i wont send Novas to US

[robust siren]

lets begin the 80he mods

[young viper]

Yeahh, I may just end up ordering the kois

[west ore]

Split spacebar is 2,25U and 2,75U?

[sacred elm]

2.75 1.25 2.25, yes

[trail bane]

Gn

[tender venture]

If I purchased a pre-built 60HE+, would I be able to take it apart and put it in a different case later on? I am debating on whether I should buy a prebuilt or just the module.

[swift slate]

yes

[tropic urchin]

You’ll just need a compatible Wooting 60% case, but you’ll be able to mod everything down to the PCB depending on what you wanna do

Building the module would probably be a good experience if you wanna do future mods bc then you’ll be decently comfortable with where everything goes

[crimson widget]

Any reccomendation on how to clean a 60he pcb and plate?

i bought a used one off ebay and wanna make sure everythings clean

[tender venture]

My plan was to buy a prebuilt now to use while I wait for a Tofu60 to arrive.

[tropic urchin]

That’ll be fine too, Wooting has some assembly/dismantling videos so if you get stuck you should be in good hands

[sacred elm]

You can use module without the case, if you already have switches

[tropic urchin]

Jumpscare

[sacred elm]

Module comes with the foam, it can be used as a temporary case

[tender venture]

Thank you everyone 🙂

[swift slate]

buy a tofu60 from divinikey they ship out of the US

thats where i got mine from and it was here in 5 days

[tender venture]

I'm in Canada so I am just waiting for my local store to get their shipment.

[tidal ridge]

Anyone got a link to some keyboard foam that works with the stock wooting 60he+ shit

[sacred elm]

stock foam isn't enough for you or what

[tidal ridge]

YO ICL I FORGOT TO SAY SPACEBAR

IM RETARDED MB

[tropic urchin]

Never is

[tulip rapids]

thats your first mistake

Can**di*n

such a cursed word i cant even censor it properly

[haughty shore]

has there ever been a creamy wooting 80he before or nah?

[pliant tinsel]

I accidently bought a pcb plate for screw in stabs instead of a plate mounted and i got the prebuilt 60he+ module Is there anything i can do now? Or am i cooked

[sacred elm]

get screw in stabilizers

[pliant tinsel]

Which one do you recommend?

[haughty shore]

screw in stabs are like 10 bucks

you got a microcenter nearby? or can u wait a bit

[sacred elm]

Most go with Knight v4

[pliant tinsel]

I think i can wait a bit tbh

[swift slate]

i use durocks but its up to you

[haughty shore]

i use glorious gsv2 stabs

they are pretty good

[pliant tinsel]

Anyone got a link for EU ones maybe?

[sacred elm]

https://prototypist.net/products/in-stock-sw-knight-stabilisers-v4

[pliant tinsel]

Thank you!

[sacred elm]

You'll need to lube them with 205g0

[pliant tinsel]

I need to lube?

Is it hard?

[swift slate]

no

[sacred elm]

Not at all

[swift slate]

just dont overlube

[cloud crane]

Very easy actually

[pliant tinsel]

Would those ones do the job too?
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EHkZftQ

[sacred elm]

Yeah, takes like 5 minutes to lube all stabs

[swift slate]

or they will feel squishy

[pliant tinsel]

Ohhh alright

[swift slate]

bro i got my 60he v2 today and holy were stock stabs overlubed lmao

[sacred elm]

https://deltakeyco.com/products/krytox-205g0

[pliant tinsel]

Thanks!

[robust siren]

@fluid ravine got my 80he today

[regal sparrow]

What do you guys think, PBTFans / decent PBT keycaps, or GMK ABS keycaps. I bought a few sets of GMK caps and i really think that a nice set of PBTFans / decent PBT keycaps are the GOAT. Courious to see what others think. Just for context, we will say its with Gateron Jade Pro magnetic switches and a 60he v2 with the FR4 plate.

[tulip rapids]

put lotion on it

[thorn zealot]

No put natural cream in there

[robust siren]

pbtfans keycaps are pretty nice, comes in a neat keycap tray

another ABS set i can recommend is keykobo

[ionic breach]

pbt and abs just comes down to texture

idm both tho

[fluid ravine]

Venom60HE RGB PCB Is out :0

[cloud crane]

👀

[lethal socket]

[loud zephyr]

that is tempting and could sway me towards acrylic Gerry

[fluid ravine]

gyaaaaaaaad

[cloud crane]

benom rgb would look amazing in cases like acrylic gehirn or ramune 🤤

[fluid ravine]

oh hell yeah

[west ore]

I love the Optimum keycaps, but there’s no split spacebar version yet, right?

[sacred elm]

Optimum split keycaps won't be available for months

[west ore]

Ah nice — at least they’re coming eventually 🙂. In the meantime, do you know any EU vendors that sell ANSI split spacebar keycap sets (US or ES)?

[sacred elm]

Oblotzky, Deltakey, Keygem

[west ore]

Thanks so much mate

[unreal pier]

Just bought some ufo switches. Was looking to buy the dt60 or gt-60 casebut they are all sold out. Are there any other cases I could use instead? Still learning about modding.

[west ore]

I don't know if I can post a link with a keycaps for a question

[fluid ravine]

You can

[west ore]

https://keygem.com/products/pbtfans™-doubleshot-spark-r2-pre-order?variant=44563317588236, Quick question — what exactly is included in a keycap kit? I’ve never bought one before and it looks like it doesn’t include all the keys.

I want this one with split spacebar

[fluid ravine]

So depending on the kit you chosen there will be an image of what it contains, this for example is the "Mod kit" where it consists of all the modifier keys on a keyboard

Typically you would get the "Base kit" which has everything for the most part

[west ore]

That’s what I thought, but I’m surprised it only includes that — how do I do the rest? And the split bar?

I’m very new to this

[fluid ravine]

Some sets will contain 2 of the split space bar key caps but will be missing one. Or some base kits won't have it at all. So if you check if the key caps you're looking at has a space bar kit selection. Check if it does contain the right sizes for the split space bar you require then you should be good to go.

[fluid ravine]

For example, my GMK Black Snails base kit doesn't come with split spacebars, but my GMK desert Botanical does.

Normally GMK doesn't sell the middle key 1.25u

So we'd have to use the small shift key as a replacement

So then I'd have to look for the space bar kit that contains all of the split spacebars in order to have a matching set

[west ore]

I see — maybe I’m better off getting the full spacebar version so it’s easier to find keycaps

For example, the keycaps I mentioned earlier have a very specific design, and I don’t see how I could find a split spacebar that matches them

[young viper]

Ego60 looks neat, zoom 64, tofu 3.0 and redux, vella if you can find one

[lime yew]

Which keycaps are those?

[west ore]

PBTfans Spark R2 from keygem, the link is above

[lime yew]

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-40s-kit-collection?variant=41826940551307

you will just need to use the 1.25u shift key from big set

[west ore]

omg but please europe 🤤

[lime yew]

Also the spark link you send is only modifiers but nothing else

And Keygem doesn't sell the full set

[west ore]

I know — I’m just trying to find either a full kit or some combination that would let me achieve a complete set.
I really appreciate your help.

Preferably from Europe or at least shipping to Spain

[lime yew]

From france: also blueish set, fully complete: https://deltakeyco.com/products/sw-arctic-keycap-set

https://deltakeyco.com/products/sw-wob-keycap-set

also complete

[west ore]

thanks a lot man

I am really happy now, You made my day 🙂

[lime yew]

No worries enjoy! If you have a bit of patience there is this cool pre-order set too: https://deltakeyco.com/products/swg-rubber-pre-order?variant=52323129721173

[west ore]

Yeah, my keyboard won’t arrive until March haha, so I’ve got plenty of time to tinker. I think I’ve already got the hang of how this all works, which is the main thing

I want to order it today, but I wanted to make sure I have keycaps for it.

[glacial wind]

just pay $32 for 2 1.25u keys in the gmk mictlan r2 group buy like me

totally worth

a mere $16 per key

[fluid ravine]

No thanks

I rather buy a sony lens

[west ore]

https://www.mechmods.co.uk/products/pbtfans-spark-keycaps-r2-1?variant=44309410382047

[glacial wind]

you should buy both. fx3 ii is coming in next few months probably

fx3 ii plus split spacebar keycaps

for a mere $35 you could be one of 3 lucky people buying the remaining gmk mictlan spacebar kit at kdbfans for the 2x 1.25u keys https://kbdfans.com/products/gmk-cyl-mictlan-rebirth?variant=44437149679755

[west ore]

The sizes are 2.75u, 1.25u, and 2.25u for the split spacebar, right?

[glacial wind]

correct yeah

most pbtfans sets will have 2.75 and 2.25u included in the extra spacebar kit that you can buy

then for 1.25u people normally use novelty unless they're one of the rare sets that does spacebar 1.25u

[glossy pagoda]

This has been completed

[potent tundra]

Hey guys what stabilizers are good for wooting 60he

[potent tundra]

Ok

[potent tundra]

So my stock stabs r really wobbly so is that a stab issue or lube?

And whenever I press a stabilizer key it's really high pitched witha metal ping compared to the rest of my kb

[glacial wind]

that's normal, if it rattles then it's a problem, but wobble and higher sound is normal

your stabilizers aren't supposed to be 100% no movement, that's a common mistake people have when thinking about stabilizers

they just work to keep your longer keys roughly in the right spot

we can't tell what you mean by metal ping without a video example though, since we don't know whether you're talking about regular stab sound or it's rattling/pinging incorrectly

[potent tundra]

Idk if u can hear it through the video but it's really loud compared to the rest of my kb

This is the enter key and right shift and backspace

The rest are the same

[glacial wind]

volume loudness is normal

your spacebar will always be way different to the rest of your keyboard

[potent tundra]

No my spacebar is fine

This is my enter key

And right shift and backspace

[glacial wind]

i can't tell is the first one your enter key?

[potent tundra]

Yea

The second is right shift

Third is backspace

[glacial wind]

sounds fine, maybe could use a slight relube

there's no pinging though

[ionic breach]

yea

sounds fine

[potent tundra]

It's like insanely high pitched compared to the rest idk why

[glacial wind]

that's normal

your stab keys will never sound the same as your regular keys, it's always different

[potent tundra]

So I just need to lube it?

[glacial wind]

no

[potent tundra]

Oh ok

[glacial wind]

i mean the pitch sound won't change even if you lube

that's due to the size and placement of the keys

nothing to do with the stabilizers

[potent tundra]

So is there anything that could fix the high pitched sound

[glacial wind]

you could get putty or foam and stick it into those keys to lower the resonance if you want

[potent tundra]

It sounds alot higher pitched irl

[glacial wind]

again - normal

i assure you

[potent tundra]

So the stabilizers aren't the issue?

[glacial wind]

yes, what you're describing has nothing to do with stabilizers

that's just bigger key = different sound

keys with more space create different sounds, that's why putty or foam inside can change the pitch/tone more lower

[potent tundra]

Is there any reason why the keys on the left side ( left shift and caps lock ) sound alot lower pitched compared to these ones?

Or is it just a size difference again

[glacial wind]

yeah, that's just coming down to keyboard design as well

different areas of your keyboard will sound different

you will never ever have your entire keyboard sounding the same

when people talk about stabilizer issues they're not talking about this - they're talking about loud rattle sounds

or metallic pipe hitting something sounds

it has nothing to do with the loudness or pitch of your key

[potent tundra]

So would lubing not do anything in my situation

[glacial wind]

no.

lubing would do nothing

[potent tundra]

But I can hear a ping it justs not coming on my mic for some reason

Especially at the edges

But ok thanks for the help

[glacial wind]

ping as in a rattle ping or just general ping

because it's normal for there to be a stab sound, just not an extra rattle ping

[west ore]

I’ve noticed the PBT modifiers are sold as a separate kit, but the rest of the keys needed to complete the set seem to be only available in ABS, even in fairly expensive sets. I know ABS can get shiny over time but has better light transmission — are there any other advantages to ABS?

[potent tundra]

It just sounds like a ping I don't know what a rattle ping is exactly

[glacial wind]

i mean as in does it just make a high pitched sound when you press or is there 2 sounds, one bottom out and one extra ping sound

if it's just one sound then there's nothing wrong with your stabilizers

if it's 2 sounds then your stabs need lube

[potent tundra]

There's a bottom out sound and then there's a high pitched one

[glacial wind]

then you could try lubing, but full warning, if it's not actual pinging you could make it worse or get no improvement

[potent tundra]

Should I try one more sound thing idk if my mic will pick it up tho

[glacial wind]

the usual way to check is to lightly tap the top of your stabilizer

[potent tundra]

This is my first time modding so sorry if I'm sounding dumb

[glacial wind]

and see if there's a metal ping when you just gently tap the top of your stabilizer without pushing in the key

[potent tundra]

Like a slight click sound comes

[glacial wind]

click or ping?

stab sound is normal, it's metal sound we're looking for

[potent tundra]

I don't think it sounds metal?

[glacial wind]

then your stab is likely fine

[potent tundra]

It's like this

Tho I think this is just a click sound

[glacial wind]

if you really want tighter stabs you can look at 3rd party options, but there's nothing wrong with your current stabs

[potent tundra]

My stabs can at max do a full circle if I move it, is that tight enough

[glacial wind]

i don't know what you mean by that, but yes your stabs are already 'tight enough'

there is no performance issue with your current stabs

it's purely for personal preference thing that some people choose specific brands with less movement

some like less movement, some don't want it too tight, just depends on the person

[potent tundra]

On the right stab there's definitely some sort of metal sound

Again I'm sorry if ur getting annoyed

I'm kinda new at this

[glacial wind]

the tl;dr is if you're bothered you can try relubing it with heavier lube

but i can't guarantee it helps or fixes it for you if it's just general stab sound

[potent tundra]

Is this a 'metallic' sound?
Anyway since it looks like my stabs aren't the issue I think I'll just put some foam in it and see

[glacial wind]

nope

not metallic

when people say ping they mean as in i'm hitting a metal pipe with something metal

the ping sound of metal

[ionic breach]

metallic is pretty obv

[glacial wind]

none of your issues sound like any stab issues

[ionic breach]

its like hitting a triangle

the instrument

[glacial wind]

the thing is you can foam up the keys but eventually you just kind of live with the fact that your larger keys will never all sound the same nor sound like your smaller keys

[potent tundra]

Then the clicky sound is just a key thing?

It's kinda annoying since it's only my right shift and enter key

[glacial wind]

that's just normal stab movement sound

[potent tundra]

The rest of my keys sound pretty similar

[glacial wind]

again if you want less movement you can buy 3rd party lower movement stabs

such as typeplus yikb stabs, but it would mean buying and changing your stabs entirely and lubing them

[potent tundra]

I don't think there's much movement on my keys if that's what u mean

[glacial wind]

i mean the sound you hear is from the stabilizer moving as you press the keys

if you want to hear it less then you need less stabilizer movement

[potent tundra]

Are durock plate mounted stabs good?

[glacial wind]

no

they're worse than what you have now

[broken notch]

Split spacebar has the issue less btw, incase you need to hear that for some reason

[bronze flare]

Is wuque studios flux deep clack switches any good

[broken notch]

They're solid

[potent tundra]

I don't know where to find the stabs cuz all the international stores have like 50 dollar shipping

[broken notch]

Check the recs in #🪛│modding_faq

[potent tundra]

My spacebar sounds great it's only the enter and right shift key

[bronze flare]

shld I get it from AliExpress or the official site

[glacial wind]

you can try relubing like I said

[broken notch]

They're exactly the same product

@bronze flare

[bronze flare]

ohh I thought there were differences cause the price

[glacial wind]

but fair warning based on what you've mentioned so far, you may be in for a lot of work with relubing

i sense you're going to be relubing many many times to get things ideal for what you mean

[broken notch]

difference is where they're sold from

[bronze flare]

ouh

Thank you

[broken notch]

They come from the same factory line ;)

[potent tundra]

Idk why it's specially these two keys, my spacebar and all other stab keys sound great

But I guess I'll buy some lube and see if it helps

[glacial wind]

i'd advise testing the stabilizers after installing before rebuilding too

as in relube, and test a switch+key on them before putting back entire keyboard

[broken notch]

If you're uncertain about disassembling stabs, buy a syringe + lube

Please don't inject lube into living material though

[glacial wind]

yeah syringe is kind of the easier basic fix to try first, since relubing is honestly a bit more advanced and from experience people who are particularly sensitive to stab sound will end up relubing and tweaking their stabilizer a lot if they go the rebuild path

we've had people come in here and rebuild like 3-5 times before giving up and buying new stabs because they couldn't get it perfect

[broken notch]

We've ahd a fair few people break off stabs unfortunately

Hence I recommend the syringe if you're completely new to it

[glacial wind]

the reality is traditional older style stabs do need a bit of experience and tweaking to get things right, even though they can perform great once properly tweaked

[broken notch]

Yeah

And not everyone has the know-how and uh, dexterity off the bat

Also sno

I am saddened to say

I decided against the zoom64

55 euro shipping is just not okay for my finances

[potent tundra]

Ok

[west ore]

https://www.mechmods.co.uk/products/pbtfans-spark-keycaps-r2-1?variant=44309410382047 Shouldn’t the Enter key be 2.25u?

[broken notch]

IT is?

Look at the base R3

You're probably looking at the ISO R3, no?

[glacial wind]

did you look at local vendor?

group buys often have a local distributor

[broken notch]

I didn't see one honestly, I didn't `click beyond the shipping estimate, dangit

[west ore]

Yes, that base kit is out of order — I meant the 40s kit for the 2.25u Enter

the picture is below

[glacial wind]

https://coffeekeys.eu/en/collections/group-buys/products/group-buy-zoom64-case-kit-eng?variant=52866219409745 for example

[broken notch]

40s is for a 40s keyboard

Evidently

You have a 60 I believe

[glacial wind]

usually with groups buys there are a bunch of vendors for different regions, so they do the group buy direct via the main brand, then also via a bunch of smaller local shops/brands

[west ore]

ahhh ok I see, I am really new

I hadn’t heard of 40% keyboards — I thought those were modifiers

[broken notch]

I fucked up

I'll miss the groupbuy window now

I think they said they won't produce outside GB, right?

[broken notch]

You have all sorts of keyboard sizes

Numbers in keyboard pcb sizes and cases generally mean the amount of keys

[glacial wind]

eh depends, often if cases are popular they do more group buys later

like zoom75 has been done for a few years now

[broken notch]

Fair, fair, I imagine zoom64 might get atleast another run

[glacial wind]

there's also often in-stock where vendors will offer a small bit of extras they order

although that often is a tad pricier than if you bought during group buy

[west ore]

Yeah, this is all pretty new to me — glad I found this Discord so I don’t screw things up

[broken notch]

We love to help

[west ore]

https://www.mechmods.co.uk/collections/keycaps/products/pbtfans-ronin?contact_posted=true&variant=44210529894623 omg no stock

For this set the split spacebar is available, but the base kit is out of stock.

[ionic breach]

it wont be ever in stock

[potent tundra]

I have a set of these but I switched it for the pastel grays

[fringe quarry]

even with the roles

😭

<@&1098943457654997093>

[crimson sky]

man we are all the way back to 2013 with these mounting points

[austere creek]

look we dont know either how people still fall for this to this day

[tropic urchin]

I wasn’t a huge fan of PBTFans ABS compared to my GMK set when I got ronin

[broken notch]

@glacial wind

Lets gooooo

[glacial wind]

ayy nice, where did you buy from?

[broken notch]

The one you linked in italy

[tropic urchin]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=125554.0 if this style appeals to you, you could try and get something like this to replace ronin

[glacial wind]

ah nice!

[quiet ginkgo]

is the tenz kb easy to mod?

[lyric nimbus]

its based on the 80he

based on that uhh

switches are easy to change

plate there are a couple aftermarket options available

cases you have like 3 options and thats it

[quiet ginkgo]

would a zinc one from wooting itself work?

(case)

or do you recommend something else

I kinda like thock more than clack

so not sure if i should even bother with metal case

[lyric nimbus]

hall effects are like

inherently clacky

[robust siren]

keep the plastic case then, metal wont make it sound deeper

[lyric nimbus]

u need to pull a lot of mods to make it even remotely deep

but yeah if u like thock keep plastic

[quiet ginkgo]

hmmm alright thx

[signal stump]

Hi dose anyone know where I can get help / support thanks?

[ornate quest]

Official support here: https://wooting.io/support, help from anybody in the community: https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1019755933959733258

[signal stump]

Thank you!!

[golden lodge]

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[quick finch]

(you should join for the leaks)

[stray tiger]

And if you don't like leaks we have brussel sprouts

[languid kestrel]

ey ey why can't one use the OW60 without the OW60-specific plate?

like what specifically is preventing me from getting whatever PCB and whatever plate and use the gasket thingy that comes with the case

[robust siren]

i think you can no?

[languid kestrel]

or in other words why is the split v2 module only compatible with the friction fit pad and not with the OW60 gasket thing

[glossy pagoda]

The 60HEv2 split is compatible with the Owlabs case with the exception that you cannot use the carbon fiber switch plate from the Owlabs, you must use the FR4 plate from the 60HEv2

[languid kestrel]

this answers my question

then this extends to any other pcb+ plate combo as long as it's the gh60 formfactor

I thought there was a bunch of hubbub at launch of the v2 split not being compatible

or only being compatible with caveats

[quasi hinge]

Could this reach me from China at this point? Im surprised it actually moved…

[west ore]

I always assumed ABS was worse than PBT, but some sets I’m considering are ABS (not must-have but I like them) — do you guys buy ABS/PBT interchangeably or stick to PBT unless it’s a grail?

[quasi hinge]

Silver UFOs

From SuperBuy

[robust siren]

it kinda depends for the build/sound im looking for

[broken notch]

Good luck

[random dagger]

holy signal rgb decided to update their software to work with with wooting

[lyric nimbus]

a lot of people swear by GMKs

which are keycaps made of ABS

there are both shitty PBT keycaps and amazing ABS keycaps

[glacial wind]

The have different sound, some people really like gmk sound even though it wears a bit quicker

[lyric nimbus]

cerakeys ❤️

[glacial wind]

Trade off is you may get shine but gmk legend printing are typically top tier (not always but the minimum standard is higher on average)

[tropic urchin]

High quality ABS (GMK/keykobo) = high quality PBT, depends on set and vendor

[glacial wind]

I have to grab one gmk set again actually because I need to do a keycap material roundup piece and I sold all my old gmk sets

Will pick you up black snail in geon sale later this month I think

Gmk also gets way more neat color combos and sets vs doubleshot pbt which is much more limited

You have to go to dye sub pbt to get same variety as gmk, but often legends aren’t quite as sharp on dye sub

That said nothing wrong with good dye sub, some of my favourite sets are cheap dye sub sets with cool designs like game1989

[west ore]

Ok I see, thank you 🙏

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EyFXTOg

[upbeat delta]

New keycap day (this time without doxing myself)

[glacial wind]

Man I need to order some other short cables. The glowing ones with the zneo are too bright for my setup lol

[crimson widget]

which keycaps are those

[glacial wind]

Can’t have an entire monochrome setup then a bright glowing cable

[upbeat delta]

KAT Operator by biip

I haven't tried very many profiles but damn, KAT is super nice

Very comfy top, also sounds nicer than, say, cherry because it's a higher profile overall

[crimson widget]

Thanks it looks very fitting with the case

[upbeat delta]

Thank you, I was super worried about that tbh, case is a Hibi June and the off beige is a good bit warmer of a colour than the white of my keycaps, but it kinda worked out

[west ore]

https://keygem.com/products/ws-poker-keycaps what do you think?

With split space bar included 2,25 & 2,75

[languid kestrel]

probably a good idea not to order anything from keygem at this moment

[upbeat delta]

Wut :o spill the tea

[west ore]

Why?

[kind helm]

72 dollar for a keykobo base set

[west ore]

Oh no 😭 please spill, I’m probably about to order.

[robust siren]

boju was 100

[kind helm]

its a pre order

comes in july

[robust siren]

soju base is still in stock on divinikey

[kind helm]

[robust siren]

i wanna see what sojus look like on the 80he but im too lazy to rip keycaps off 2 boards

[kind helm]

i dont have a board for soju. it looks nice though

[robust siren]

wait theres a new stanceworks video
ig ill swap while watching

[kind helm]

only waited a year for a decent abs set under 100, what is another 6 months hehe

[languid kestrel]

@west ore @upbeat delta they are not doing so well financially

https://keygem.com/blogs/keygem-clicks-blog/current-situation-at-keygem-an-honest-update

like many, many, many other keyboard vendors in recent months/years

"honest update" only after the customers had had weeks/months of no-contact and difficulties figuring out if their preorders are getting fulfilled at all does not exactly inspire confidence

you make your own conclusions, just be careful

[west ore]

Omg thanks for letting me know

[languid kestrel]

candykeys went down, mykeyboard.eu went down

it's not looking super hot for vendors right now, deltacokeys is there still and oblotzky

monacokeys too

[west ore]

Do you know any good EU stores for custom keycaps (PBT/GMK etc.) ?

[languid kestrel]

the ones I mentioned above is all I know

[west ore]

Ok thanks

[languid kestrel]

deltakeyco, monacokeys and oblo

[upbeat delta]

Thank you for the info, I used to order from them a couple times actually

But been a hot minute

I like oblotzky a lot, but didn't order these keycaps from him since keyreative actually had their kat operator on sale for like 80usd, so almost 30€ less than what I would have paid at oblo

[upbeat delta]

I guess inputgear exists, I got my Raeds HE from them (and they were 4€ less than other vendors)

[robust siren]

@tropic urchin 🅱️oju

how we feel about clear novelties placement

[exotic stump]

just did the upgrades on my 80he from toronto keyboard

much improved sound

running Gateron Jade ultras

[robust siren]

i can make a new post in #1070668460905988106 now casue it contains the 80he right

[fluid ravine]

ooo yeeeee

[robust siren]

i need silver 80he case

[pseudo whale]

Discovered Silicone mold. 100% recommend. You just tape the holes, pour it in, and wait an hour and it’s a perfect form fit.

It generally mutes the whole thing, dampening both high and low pitch maybe a bit more low. With the silicone friction fit, PC plate, and lubed jades I get this very nice marble sound while typing

[humble surge]

This right one is much better

[robust siren]

not feeling the black case with sojus, heres that theme on the 60%

in fact i already swapped back to the pbtfan crosshairs

[trail bane]

Gn

[humble surge]

I think it looks much better

it claps so hard

[maiden spruce]

just ordered the wooting 60he v2

[sour blade]

How do i tell a wooting pcb is authentic ? Are there clones that have serial numbers that work in wootility or can i assume connect to wootility = genuine?

I bought a pcb and im unfamiliar with the printing on the newer boards

Ive never seen these prints before

[summer swan]

where did you buy it from?

[sour blade]

ebay

Its showing up in wootility but i havent put switches in yet

[summer swan]

The printing's the same as the 60HE PCBs on Wooting's website.

[sour blade]

Tahnkyouuu

[summer swan]

If it works already on Wootility, then there's a good chance that it's authentic.

[sour blade]

thankyou, its been a while

[summer swan]

https://tenor.com/view/how-long-curtis-payne-house-of-payne-woman-to-woman-s9e9-gif-25639261

[sour blade]

It's been so long that I still have full-size plate foam

I don't think they do that anymore

[night atlas]

as someone who's currently rocking pbtfans crosshair and wants the soju keycaps, you may have saved me a purchase

[robust siren]

well if you have a white or silver id totally rock it

[night atlas]

I have a frosted acrylic case

the tofu60

it might work... could look like a cold bottle

[robust siren]

i think itd work with some of the clear keys

like what i did on my 60%

[summer swan]

They still do, although that's only with the modules just case if you were to tray mount it. The prebuilt keyboards come with plate foam that only covers the alphas.

[robust siren]

dont post the SN

[robust siren]

if you boot up wootility, it will tell you if its a fake board

[ornate quest]

Maybe I'm just seeing things, but... are your switches the wrong way?

[quiet ginkgo]

how long y'all think until gravastar ufo come back?

[fluid ravine]

do it

[robust siren]

[little glen]

you should probably delete this picture cause of the serial number

also, 🐧 switches

[fluid ravine]

fuck it

i ordered the 80he keebmat

[humble surge]

Finally

[fluid ravine]

yeah i didn't want to wait

[humble surge]

Imagine NOT ordering

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[robust siren]

debtson is no longer debtson

hes positive

[chilly mural]

67!!!!

[sly palm]

I am just curious, how much is a keebmat?

[fluid ravine]

10-15

depending on size

[sly palm]

oh sounds fine to me

[fluid ravine]

oh size and material

the plus size s $25

[thorn zealot]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bh187-spongebob-237

[crystal cloud]

i bought a carbon fiber plate and i tried replacing it but on the pc plate that came with the wooting 80he has little spots where the screw goes in what do i do?

[fluid ravine]

you need to install standoffs onto the plate in order to screw in the pcb and plate together

[crystal cloud]

ah i see it came with the kit

thank you

um

now how would i go on about actually installing them?

ah

nevermind i figured it out\

[crimson widget]

is this for the HE or HE+?

[summer swan]

The HE/HE+ have identical printing as the v2 (the split spacebar version is slightly different). Also the only difference between the HE and the HE+ is that the HE+ can use screw-in stabilizers while the HE can't.

[crimson widget]

Thanks! I just bought a used 60he from ebay too and im gonna check if its legit or not when it arrives

[summer swan]

Gravastar said they expect to have the UFOs restocked in the next two weeks when I emailed them yesterday.

[bronze flare]

For the optimum case do I need to install the o rings

[sacred elm]

If you're using v2 module, no

[slow wagon]

guys any news about good silent switches for wooting? is there something good out already?

[bronze flare]

how do i sitch the switches in the wootility web

[broken notch]

Beta.wootility.io

settings

[bronze flare]

i cant find itr

[fluid ravine]

did you update your wooting and wootility to beta?

[bronze flare]

how?

This is my first wooting keyboard so idrk how to work the software

[fluid ravine]

https://beta.wootility.io

[bronze flare]

i found it thanl you

[robust siren]

should def check out the post in wootstations

[west ore]

I’m picking keycaps for an Optimum case build and I’m torn between these three — which combo do you think looks best aesthetically?

Mizu R2
Disconnected Dark
Dolch R5X

Would love opinions 🙏

[ionic breach]

dolch prob

if not, then mizu

[summer swan]

I'd go with Dolch

[blazing onyx]

disconnected dark

[west ore]

I like this one the best as well.

I think with optimum is a perfect match

[glacial wind]

Gmk black snail is real nice with optimum too

Any grey/black sets tend to look real nice

[west ore]

The set is missing the grey 1.25u bar. I could use the black one since it's the right size, but the concave shape and color don't match the rest of the split spacebar

[glacial wind]

Yeah that’s annoying thing with 1.25u bar for gmk sets

I have to literally order another kit from another gmk set coming mid this year to get the spacebar profile 1.25u in black

[next kestrel]

can wooting 60he+ use the ufo switches?

[glacial wind]

Yep

It will also be in switch selector next switch update too

[next kestrel]

is it good? or is there a better one

[glacial wind]

Personal preference. It’s quite good although personally I like ttc horse more

[next kestrel]

ty

[broken notch]

I made this for someone in general but I'll also post it in here incase we need to link it to someone later (with the aliexpress Holy60 clone and a friction fit 60HE v2)

It's really short but these Holy60 clones are extremely tight for a frictionfit, so I made the video to alleviate some fears someone in general chat had, also explained the grounding screw

[blazing onyx]

i think this one looks nicer

[humble surge]

@fallen pecan https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=943050031350 does this link work for you?

[slow wagon]

@glacial wind hi my friend! is there any good silent switch for wooting out ? or we are still waiting?

[west ore]

Regarding the 1.25u split bar, I'm thinking about using the black one from the Wooting PBT set to fix the kitting issue. Since my build is a mix of grey and black, it should look fine color-wise. My main doubt is the profile: does anyone know if that Wooting 1.25u key is actually convex or is it just a regular concave keycap? Also, since the Wooting is OEM profile and this set is Cherry, will the height difference be too annoying?

[glacial wind]

There’s the ones in modding faq. They’re decent

The xvx he in particular is nice, although just like any dampened switch they aren’t super accurate at low settings like 0.1

[humble surge]

I should probably try them out this weekend finally, circled are the XVX Snow silents (and a bunch of others to try still that arrived)

[broken notch]

@robust siren do you still have the listing url for the kois?

[sweet oak]

Alright chat its time for the preference wars, starting with ti hes vs tikkens

[fringe quarry]

i havent tried tikkens

but im for tikkens

[trail bane]

Haven’t tried ti’s

But im for Ti’s

[fringe quarry]

[humble surge]

Both bad
War cancelled

[robust siren]

id have to find it but its double the price i paid for it

[trail bane]

Yee

[humble surge]

👽 UFO Invasion leader is not amused by your art

[robust siren]

https://kibushop.com/en-us/products/jinyun-device-koi-switch

i dont have the taobao link

[broken notch]

Do you know the difference between the rgb and these on sound or are they the same?

[robust siren]

..huh sorry i dont understand

[broken notch]

You have yours, the pinkies, but the same company also sells clear ones

[robust siren]

ohh

uhhh im not sure

you can compare if the materials are the same

[broken notch]

https://m.superbuy.com/en/goods/detail/index?url=https%253A%252F%252Fitem.taobao.com%252Fitem.htm%253Fid%253D1008859939297

I really wish I spoke the language lmao

[robust siren]

top and bottom housing are different

[broken notch]

Okay, thanks :3

[fluid ravine]

Same

[trail bane]

Actually

[broken notch]

Sorry to be such a bother, you got these, right?

https://m.superbuy.com/en/goods/detail/index?url=https%253A%252F%252Fitem.taobao.com%252Fitem.htm%253Fid%253D916650764070

[fluid ravine]

[trail bane]

Found out that elf king sounds same as rawhuks

[robust siren]

holy rare thockson appearence

[fluid ravine]

Aight bub

[humble surge]

200 CNY for 84, not too shabby

[robust siren]

yeah

[humble surge]

Might buy after CNY

[broken notch]

I'm gonna go for an 84 package for my hubby. Yeee

And it's all Gore's fault

[robust siren]

kois are goated

[broken notch]

Good

I'm holding you to that

[robust siren]

imo stability is fine and youve heard the sound tests on my rakka

i havent swapped them over to my 80he yet

[broken notch]

Nice

I'm getting em cuz they're pretty cheap

35 usd minus shipping for 84 is nice

[robust siren]

kois in the rakka

tenz tikkens in the 80he

[broken notch]

Very smooth

[chilly mural]

There's a weird whine on this sound test

And the rakka one

But wooting a lot more deeper

Wooting's spacebar too loud for me imo

A 80he split would solve the issue wink wink

[robust siren]

i havent tuned it yet

also the one in that rakka recording is a bit soft

i would swap over to the kois but that requires pulling switches out of 2 boards

[slow wagon]

do they fall out easily like the previus tactile silent switches? ( dont remember the name )

[robust siren]

fuck it il swap the kois over

and ill slap sojus back on

[sly palm]

Have fun

[quiet ginkgo]

was trying to sell my wooting two HE since I bought the tenz

someone offered only 100 euros

😭

[glacial wind]

Not for me but I think it’s going to depend on the plate. Personally I never had any issues with switches falling out at all

[urban ingot]

I think that's a fair amount. When I sell stuff, I only expect to get about half of what I paid for it. Not really realistic to expect to get retail price for something that's used.

[humble surge]

Yeah 40% to 50% usually

Unless its an exceedingly rare item in a similarly mint condition, then higher returns are possible

[quiet ginkgo]

hmmmm idk, for pc parts (upgraded everything recently) i always went 30% less than actual price

and it worked well

so I thought thats what most people do

[lean hazel]

Imo that's completly fine - Since it's a used keyboard and you can already (atleast in germany) get the wooting 60 he for 189 euros 🫡
I also saw wooting 60he selling for around 50 euros.

[urban ingot]

No one's stopping you from trying to get that much. If you want to only get 30% less than what you paid for it, sit on it. But you may be sitting on it for a really long time.

[robust siren]

decided not to use the clear keys

[clear lantern]

hello 🙂 has anyone here tried swapping cases on their Wooting Two HE? I'm interesting in doing it but everything I've seen or watched seems to be focused on the 60/80's

[ornate quest]

There is no other cases available for the Two HE. But somebody on here is actually building one

[robust siren]

pictures are complete

@fluid ravine

[sly palm]

you need a silver case later down the line I think

[ripe canopy]

hmm

[robust siren]

oh yeah for sure

anyways i could do a sound test for these
stock 80he

[paper bison]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1084226157907554441/1470025864086556840/noted.gif

[robust siren]

i believe its my pc

[chilly mural]

time to buy a mac mini for no fan noise

or passive cool

[robust siren]

i hear it in my just recorded 80he too

i dont have my macbook anymore

does wooting work on ipad

[chilly mural]

It's a keyboard

[robust siren]

wait but im using pc mic to record

[chilly mural]

time to buy a new cooler cooler

[sly palm]

lmao

[robust siren]

damn aio

@chilly mural

@fluid ravine ^

@broken notch heres the kois in a stock 80he

or well the stock tenz one

i havent cut the alphas yet

and i think i need to add some foam to the spacebar

[broken notch]

thank you!

[chilly mural]

def need to reduce the spacebar sound, it sounds conflicting with that

[robust siren]

i dont have any sticky foam laying around

the one in the tenz bar is really soft and just breaks apart if you try to remove it

[fluid ravine]

Boju

[graceful wasp]

https://monacokeys.de/products/ttc-plate-mounted-stabilizers are these good?

[west ore]

Gonna try a concave middle key for my split bars. My thinking is that the different shape will act as a homing point for my thumb during matches. Form follows function, right? Has anyone else tried this or do you guys just stick to all-convex for the aesthetics?

[broken notch]

These are questions only you can answer...

[urban ingot]

That's pretty. I kept my TenZ stock, but I'm going to put it in a red GT-80. I've done a bunch to my "regular" 80 HE though. White Zinc swap (from Black Zinc) FR4 plate, and Knight V4 and the regular Tikken in it. I have an unopened box of Lekker Tikken and 45cN springs that I need to get around to trying to make TenZ style. But I also have Nova's on the way, so I don't know how long those extra Tikken will be sitting there for.

[robust siren]

i need to get the gt80 in silver one day

[tidal ridge]

What mods or switches help make your keyboard thocky (60he+)

[crystal rose]

Why is it so hard to find a service for printing on polyester, I tried to do a local service but I can't find any that do printing on polyester 😭

anyone have any luck with finding a service?

i legit tried everything and cant find a single service

[little glen]

polyester keyboard

[crystal rose]

What? Lmao

[crystal rose]

me when i see custom emoji:

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-11954040389595096870

[sour blade]

have there been any stab recommendation lists lately?
i come from a time where typeplus yikb is best

these trends are moving too fast for me

🧓

[little glen]

still best

[young viper]

Knight v4's

[young viper]

Oh snap it's coming to life

[thorn zealot]

still top 2 stabs imo

[agile summit]

:)

[robust siren]

id still consider sw knights the best

i hate my yikbs

specifically the 7u spacebar

[sour blade]

thankyou for the recommendations

[humble surge]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005011693523531.html pretty sick, think i'll get this

[amber dagger]

are either of these switch openers compatible with he switches?

[little glen]

Any mx opener should work for most switches

Some switches cannot be opened with a traditional switch opener (gravastar ufo specifically)

[amber dagger]

i have lekker v2 but will be building my first mx soon

[young viper]

Honestly just get wooting switch opener, works pretty good

[amber dagger]

nutcracker looks more fun

[young viper]

Includes a switch puller to so it's not a terrible deal

[young viper]

But wootings switch puller has a switch tester on top

[little glen]

Just buy the one you think looks nicer/cooler, it will probably be fine

I personally use the tx multi tool that has switch puller and opener and a few more things all integrated into one thing

[amber dagger]

so all mx switch openers work with he?

[little glen]

Yeah that stuff is fairly standardized

As long as the opener has 2 prongs sticking out on either side to push the clips out of the way it‘s good

[trail bane]

Gn

[calm pulsar]

me seeing this at 7am

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-funnt-cat-black-cat-sleepy-cat-gif-16409614852005252877

[trail bane]

3:31

[young viper]

Uh 6:35 pm

[amber dagger]

i found this pic of the opener. could someone who knows more than me check that this will work with lekker

[quasi hinge]

https://youtu.be/qhxsE8dvbs4

[cloud crane]

Every day discord becomes worse...

[quasi hinge]

Shame

[cloud crane]

Wooting Matrix server when 🤤

[crystal rose]

anyone have any luck with finding a service for like making straps?

[lethal iron]

that’s not a switch puller, that’s the switch seperator thingy

[young viper]

it includes both

[amber dagger]

are you supposed to remove pcb module from case before pulling switches and keycaps or do you pull them out with the module still in case?

[sacred elm]

No need to remove the module, but if it's friction fit, I remove the module first so I don't scratch edges of the case lol

[glacial wind]

@ionic breach I found more usb adaptors you’ll like

Didn’t realise the fancy detachable cables we sell come with metal shell silver and black adaptors

[chilly mural]

$100 usb adapter

[glacial wind]

actually $100 because i got both the black and white cables sent over for filming

[chilly mural]

Actually $50. So not much compared to buying 80he case

[glacial wind]

they're actually nicer than i thought. I never got around to swapping my cables for them but the metal cable end things are quite nice

i've been testing it with the zneo hub

i saw hmlab has a 'lite' version that just came out now that is zneo but no lcd screen

[chilly mural]

Any problem?

[glacial wind]

nah works great

i need to get a wooting gif made for the screen though

The default animation is quite neat though

Shows the power flow

the stock cables are way too bedazzled though. I ordered some short mini cables so when i attach a separate 4k mouse dongle in future i don't need to use the absurd light up rgb cable

[fluid ravine]

Wat dat

[glacial wind]

8k friendly USB hub where every usb port is separate channel so it doesn’t run into usb hub issues

[fluid ravine]

Oh shiiii

[glacial wind]

It’s become a popular thing in China since people use a usb extension for their mouse dongle already

[fluid ravine]

Where can I find?
Curiousss

I seee

[glacial wind]

Aliexpress and other places

It’s called zneo from hmlab

There’s a few from other brands too

[fluid ravine]

Oh?

[chilly mural]

does it do fine for full bright RGB on 2 keyboard at the same time?

[glacial wind]

Yeah it has an extra port for secondary power supply if you need to boost it even more

[fluid ravine]

?

I see waguri I insta buy

[glacial wind]

So you can technically have 2 usb ports just for power and 3 for peripherals

[glacial wind]

I like their basic version they just released actually lol. If I was purely for my own use now I’d have bought the no lcd see through version

[fluid ravine]

Oh shi $36 with shipping

W

[glacial wind]

Lite version has no lcd but I think looks cooler if not using the lcd function

[fluid ravine]

Woa

[glacial wind]

I can see why weeb folks love the lcd version though. They love them anime gifs lol

[fluid ravine]

Lol

[fluid ravine]

This is pretty sick icl

Link please?

[glacial wind]

Bit cheaper too

[fluid ravine]

Shiiii

Even better

[glacial wind]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_c3op72X9

[fluid ravine]

[robust siren]

debtson

[regal patio]

For the switches your best bet is the keytok nova or gravastar ufo

[broken notch]

ufo ufo

[regal patio]

Also a PC plate sold directly by wooting would help

[glacial wind]

(As long as you have the prebuilt and not module - since module comes with pc plate stock already)

[broken notch]

I'm so eager for my zoom64 kit but it's another two months aa

[glacial wind]

I still can’t decide if I want to make a plate for mine or just friction fit it

I’ll probably go friction fit just because being able to swap out the case easily is useful since I swap around stuff so often

[broken notch]

Same

[glacial wind]

I do think it’s up there are one of nicer looking 60he options

[untold wigeon]

scrolled up to see this, I love mine despite the sketch firmware website

[glacial wind]

Tofu 3.0 in full copper is maybe nicest one but it’s 9 degree awful ergo angle

So that’s a big nope from me

[untold wigeon]

Its really saved me a pretty penny needing to buy another wooting premium cable just for the host side

makes swapping from my mac to gaming PC a bit more tolerable lmao

[glacial wind]

yeah the firmware site is awful, it doesn’t even give me dimensions o need to make the gif so I have to trial and error

[broken notch]

Oh yeah

[untold wigeon]

for the price I cant complain smh

[glacial wind]

I want to put the animated Wooting tenz logo gif into it

[untold wigeon]

Ugreen has a similar switch that can deal with the 8k polling but costs 58 bucks

granted it has a few other features, but the neoz is decently priced

[untold wigeon]

thanks for the recommendation a while back!

[glacial wind]

How are you swapping between pc and mac? Just one uses the hub or you swap the cable connecting to the hub each time

[untold wigeon]

I swap the source cable, my initial plan was to just swap with the quick disconnect. My mouse has bluetooth and dongle so I only worried about the keeb

BUT the wooting store only sells a whole kit and that would be 60 usd+ for me for everything

[broken notch]

Next step is a second wooting

[untold wigeon]

I already have an 80he that I gifted to my sister

she enjoys it but I deepy regret it

atleast she's happy lmao

[robust siren]

have you heard or seen anything about kbdfans gt-60 v2

[untold wigeon]

I gave it to her before I went and bought the mac, when it was just gathering dust after I got my v2

WHICH GOSH I enjoy way more

I really love the split spacebar

[robust siren]

yoink it back

[glacial wind]

The Wooting premium cable is quite nice. I was telling shafie earlier I was impressed with the quality of the fixtures for disconnect parts and the nice usb converter included

[untold wigeon]

Gotta fly to Berkeley for that lmao

Might as well get a second one at that point

[broken notch]

Did you ever get the KOI rgb sno?

[glacial wind]

That’s interesting idea using the quick disconnect side on the hub side actually

I might experiment with that since I do have multiple of these cables

[glacial wind]

Nah, I was thinking about it but I haven’t see them on western sites so testing it would be a bit pointless for western audience

[untold wigeon]

It’s really well made, when I buy the wheel module upgrade I’ll probably grab a second set. It’s nicer than anything I’ve tried

[untold wigeon]

Hmm?

[broken notch]

I'm going to buy KOIs, torn between rgbs and the pinks

[glacial wind]

Aren’t rgb the newer ones?

[broken notch]

It's the other way around afaik

[untold wigeon]

The huh seems to deal with the cable and keeb draw when powered externally

Why not

[broken notch]

The RGB ones are a little cheaper somehow

[glacial wind]

Hrm so it goes koi then koi rgb then koi pink?

I lost track with how they love selling updated sku

[broken notch]

Idk if pink is the real name

I just call them pink cuz pink

[glacial wind]

If it’s just koi then technically its the older one

Koi rgb is the second koi they released

[broken notch]

I will research

I guess rgb might be newer, yes

Yeah the pinks are just KOI

I do wish I could read the language

[glacial wind]

Yeah so then it’s basically that koi rgb is the newer one with pa12 that people like

pa12 is the material in deep clack flux that gives it that thumpy bottom out

[broken notch]

They're cheaper on superbuy than the regular KOIs somehow

https://m.superbuy.com/en/goods/detail/index?url=https%253A%252F%252Fitem.taobao.com%252Fitem.htm%253Fid%253D1008859939297

[glacial wind]

Yeah they’re quite cheap. I’m curious to see if they make it over to western audience at some point

[broken notch]

Imma buy an 84 pack

[glacial wind]

I did notice vendors pay attention to the Wooting switch list though lol

[broken notch]

I'll do a lil sound test too with my new setup

Yeah!

[glacial wind]

Some vendors starting selling specifically the switches we put on there

[broken notch]

You're doing amazing work

[glacial wind]

Like freya and the outemu silent started being sold in bunch of stores after last round of list went out

[broken notch]

It might be worth trying to push KOIs into the west haha

[glacial wind]

I’m really curious to try these Wuque diamonds

[broken notch]

Are those the new ones?

You'll probs get a trial package, no?

[glacial wind]

Yeah officially all I can say is they’re new switch by Wuque and there’s a mini ad banner for it on some Chinese sites

[broken notch]

You're like the wooting switch guy

[glacial wind]

meant to be their new flagship he switch to replace flux

They already have some coming my way I believe, so if they’re good they’ll be in next round of switch selector as well since I can include them in the bundle I’m sending to our switch firmware team

[broken notch]

Niiice

[regal patio]

The RGB's have a closer build to the keytok nova's

[broken notch]

Going to KOI rgb from UFO might be a downgrade in stability but I still want to try them

Either way, my hubby needs a new set of switches

So whichever I like less he can have

[untold wigeon]

Btw @broken notch any idea who made the neo z hub? I literally cannot find anything regarding hm labs

[broken notch]

Hmlab

They're a weird small company

Who had some drama with a pro revealed to be a cheater lmao

They got lucky with the zneo because of the lcd screen taking of on tiktok hehe

[untold wigeon]

Huh I see, because I mean the hub actually is very well built! I was confused as to why I’ve been unable to find anything on them

Thanks

[broken notch]

But generally they're a small company

They also made a keyboard noone cares about

[untold wigeon]

To be fair, keyboards are just hard as hell to get into

Keychron and Nuphy just run everything

Mchose too

But I genuinely think Chinese peripheral companies have it rough, not even the little wall that western companies have with users outside china

[next kestrel]

pom kom linier and ufo grava star, which performance is better

[sacred elm]

same

[next kestrel]

ok, ty

[potent tundra]

Guys what else can I mod my kb with

[broken notch]

Ribbon and keychains!!

[young viper]

Glitter glue

[broken notch]

Fingerpaint

[ionic breach]

Honey

[chilly mural]

Sand

[summer swan]

stickerbomb it

[cloud crane]

Flame patina

[robust siren]

i love spreading koi propaganda

[broken notch]

Imma get the argeebees

[jaunty urchin]

I have a rookie question. Im changing the plate on my wooting 80he but the new one is without threaded holes so i cant screw it in. It's only held together with the switches. Will this cause any issues?
White is stock with the threaded holes. And the black one is the new one

[little glen]

your plate did not come with standoffs?

[sacred elm]

there should be a bag with standoffs and screws. if they didn't include them, you'll have to buy standoffs separately from kbdfans

[jaunty urchin]

This one is from KeyBox and no standoffs inside sadly.

Is it possible to use it without standoffs or I risk breaking it?

[sacred elm]

you shouldn't use it without the standoffs, this will likely cause some calibration issues and you don't want that

[jaunty urchin]

Okay thanks for the help.

[regal patio]

TTC KOM RGB I see in there

Am I right?

[amber dagger]

i’m seeing some contradicting things about pe foam. could using pe switch pads potentially short my pcb? if it helps this is the link: https://www.keycrox.co.uk/product/pe-poron-eva-switch-pad?variant=STPADPEF

[sacred elm]

It won't short but will make the accuracy worse, not recommended for HE keyboards

[jaunty urchin]

As kbdfans to my place takes a long time and the only standoffs i can find locally are motherboard standoffs am I fine to use them?

[sacred elm]

You need 15x M2 3.5mm height standoffs and 15x M2-3 flat head screws

[jaunty urchin]

Thank you! So much, you are amazing.

[amber dagger]

how come?

[ionic breach]

cos its soft, so it not reliable when calculating and calibrating the switch movements

since its not the same each time depending on how hard u press

[amber dagger]

oh right, thanks for explaining

[amber plover]

For all of those amazing keyboard experts out there I have a wooting 60HE+ is it worth it to upgrade the stabs?

[sacred elm]

If you have prebuilt 60HE+ with plate mount stabilizers, sure.

[amber plover]

Is it worth it though?

Like is there a huge difference?

I also wonder the same for my V2

[regal patio]

Translation: Elastic Bacteria

The RGB Koi's are kinda like the keytok nova's

And the Default Koi's are close to the DC Flux

[broken notch]

They're a third of the price of the novas though

[humble surge]

i dont see the problem

[regal patio]

Sping got translated to elastic bacteria

[humble surge]

Whats wrong with that? real and true

[robust siren]

i wouldnt say theyre close in the slightest

sno said earlier that the rgbs are more like the dcf

[regal patio]

In terms of materials

Not sound

[broken notch]

Dcf?

[robust siren]

i mean materials make that specific sound signature

[robust siren]

deep clacky flux

[broken notch]

Thank you

[regal patio]

The dcf is made of PA66

The bottom housing

And has PC top

Thats the same as the regular koi's

[humble surge]

@broken notch the above sillyness aside, was the translation helpful in some way or?

[broken notch]

That's the old KOI

[robust siren]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[broken notch]

Sorry for not responding. It was, thank you!

[humble surge]

Coolio

[broken notch]

The pink ones are the OG kois

[humble surge]

need these too?

[broken notch]

And they have the same materials as dcf