#🔧│keyboard_modding
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ok
would not recommend it
with soap
yea it shouldn't really matter
just make sure it is absolutely dry before plugging it in again
Just try different layers and see which sound you like
yea he is doing that right now
I think the black rubber is the silicone dampening layer. I looked it up, will that make it sound better?
Anything above 3 layers sounds the same
Okie dokie thx
uhh yea then wait until it is dry before you worry about switches
the lube in them is designed to basically not wash away 
to properly clean switches you kinda need a ultrasonic cleaner
Tape mod is ment to enhance the lows and the mids
:)))
yes
You probably have masking tape at home
Me too
btw if you get tikkens for example it would be like 60 euros + shipping
nice
That sounds like what I want lol
They are probably the deepest sounding switch at the moment
imma get like 20 packages next week
Alr
Maybe I do. I will ask tomorrow, my mom is an artist and keeps all that stuff so she will know.
I am free of buying keyboards (for the most part)
will join CCRXSE and other projects I am interested in, but that is basically 0 now
just aftermarket stuff for me otherwise, and it gotta be good to get my attention
why is krytox 205g0 so expensive
yes
just gonna swap from venom to atlas with new switches
cause krytox makes buying it really complicated
any cheaper ideas
nope
ok
Krytox GPL 205 g0 GPL 205 Grad 0 Schalterschmiermittel Original White Semi Fluid Grease für Linearschalter und Stabilisatoren für einen besonders gleichmäßigen Auftrag. Krytox GPL 205G0 wird für lineare Schalter empfohlen, aber bei sehr leichter Anwendung kann dieses Schmiermittel für jeden takti...
that?
- krytox 205g0 krytox 105g0 (107 etc also work) a ziploc bag a dielectric grease, regular zinc grease works, XHT-BDZ is good but not as easy to work with (MUST BE DIELECTRIC) an applicator, either a small hobbysit brush or a bag of 500 makeup applicators I would recommend lubing the stabilizers with a thick tipped syringe
do i need also 105g0?
well yea that is amazon price gouging
yea that is for springs
ok
otherwise they will ring
now i understand
but first check how bad the switches actually are
very bad
and before you buy really just check how much a new swt of switches cost
tbh if you get a recommendation for a switch nowadays expect it to be good out of the box
https://x.com/oyasumiiii08/status/2017465184881938819 rakka atlas keysnap mount in leggera o
yea kinda but I think any on amazon is gonan be pricy
but last time I bought some loose was ages ago 
any other platforms where i can buy all of that
what platforms?
Where did you buy them and how long you waited
last time I bought it was from keygem but I cannot recoomend you enough to not buy from them
I ordered from keytok themselves
since they are in the process of going out of business
ok
and last time before I bought from someone else I bought it from malaysia 
was like 7 euros total for a stupid amount
what are these?
not required for your switches
ok
like I said, do not buy from keygem rn
why
eu keyboard vendors are a minefield
???
i ordered mid and hard keysnap yesterday lol
like I said, keygem is in the process of going out of business, if you are unlucky you are just out of money and never get any product
for atlas leggera
oh
wut
any other platforms where i can buy all of that stuff
forged carbon plate damn
yea they are doing the mykeyboard
yea and not at mechanicon last year
any other platforms where i can buy all of that stuff?
they ship from spain
ok
these ship from france
whiplash ships from portugal but it oos
and oblo does not carry lube so you can ignore him for your needs
and that is it for european keyboard vendors I would buy from rn that are not super specialized
ok
what is a thick tipped syringe?
I would recommend lubing the stabilizers with a thick tipped syringe
something like that, big canula but with a blunt tip
for what
makes it easy to just squeeze it in the stabilizer once it is already installed and everything
ohhh but i do not need that
I mainly do it that way since XHT-BDZ is stupid messy
mmmm
absolutely not required, especially with regular dielectric grease
but xht-bdz is super thick and sticky
likt it is thicker than nutella but also sticky enough to not be washable
:///
yea
and for only the stabilasors i need what?
mmmm
if you get it on your clothes you basically do not get it out
i do not know he is fucking 5
whiplash design sell lube syringes (and pens sometimes)
and i think oblo was carrying the lube pens for a short while
Why was he allowed to bath a two he?
helo my keboard brok :(
Best fortnight settings anyone ?
Dont do that
agreed
@tropic urchin what if i get red accent pieces on black gt-80 and order blue accents for my gt-60 
whenever that happens
Hey Jabberwock do you have a link to the grey/silver ufo switches? They look wayy better than the purple ones
you replied to my link yesterday
How?
explosion
What are the keycap sizes for the wooting he v2 module split spacebar? Looking for sizes of the 2 spacebars and the keycap that sits in the middle between them
Maybe I’m dumb but I can’t see a link only 2 pictures
Tysm✌️
boom
You spilled water on it?
Knobs when
GMK Selene when
Pink UFO restock when
21.7.2028
MX2A Black HE when 
im looking for a clean good 75 or 80% keyboar alu case can someone recommand me one?
Nah we need premium 80he case options
Kk guys, thunderflash white vs pink... what do you think? 😄
white
@tropic urchin
aren't they the same?
i was not at home and he likes it so much
They are pretty similar, I tried both, can't decide which ones to keep x)
best mods for wooting two he?
Tape mod is the easiest by far
with an black keyboard
Kbdfans website
can i do tabe mod with just a normal tabe?
Painters tape
ok how does it sound then?
How much of a difference does the tape mod make?
one last question aren´t there anywhere files too look at from the keyvoard?
I always liked these:
https://divinikey.com/products/pbtfan-bow-keycap-set-doubleshot-pbt
Not sure if you are a color guy but I have the reverse WOB on my black lemokey p1 office keeb
PBTfans BOW Keycap Set showcases a black on white keycap set with additional black accents. Coming in a doubleshot PBT material for more durability. PBTfans BOW Keycap Set Features: Cherry Profile Manufactured by PBTfans Doubleshot PBT Material MX Compatible Available in: Base Kit Simple Base Kit (Non-text Modifiers) N
what switch are you asking about?
they look fire
Black on black gets dull but its a sleeper. Got before wooting 80he
Get the full set if you do and can. I used this for the caps lock (pic before I got that set)
Day 6,457 waiting for the knobs
Phylina Thunderflash white vs pink
id have to look into it, but i havent tried thunderflash, sno might have a better idea
reverse wob?
you mean bow?
@autumn temple yeah i wouldn't bother with genty or any old gateron switch
or any gateron switch imo, but if you're gonna buy a gateron switch, look for the jade ultras/ the dark one
@tropic urchin Could you help me figure out how to get my Wooting 60 HE V2 to sound the exact way I want it to? I noticed that switches matter but also how you build your board around the switch matters just as much. Do u mind if I DM u what I mean exactly?
pbtfans, gmk, keykobo, osume
I have an idea of how I want it to sound and know that its possible I just dont know EXACTLY how to go about getting the sound/feel that want from the V2? @tropic urchin
imma be honest, i dont know what you really want/targetting tbh for your overall sound profile
Yeah thats why Ill explain to you but easier through DMs?
i have too many DMs so i dont really want any new ones, but my overall opinion is to not put too much value or emphasis on sound tests as there are too many variables that can cloud or sway your opinion that end up not being real if that makes sense
so you mention chatter alot, if its the HE top out sound you dont like then check out the jade ultras or the dark new jades since those are supposed to have not as much switch top out sound
Honestly I think my biggest issue for what im trying to get is the plate I think the plate is the most important part that changes the sound of all the switches significantly
@tropic urchin Have you seen any 60 HE V2 plate replacements I found one on torontokeyboardman for POM plate but the white version is sold out right now ?
I forgot punctuation
i think thats pretty accurate. i would also look on aliexpress and hypekeyboard (can make custom plates) as well
ohh i see haha
but for POM plate specifically, it can be harsher in sound, so i would recommend pairing with poron case foam @autumn temple
I feel like the plate can literally change the entire sound of the board and all the switches it taints every single switch no matter which one so plate is super important but POM is the softest plate isnt it? So it wouldnt be harsher
not at all
PP is the softest, followed by PC and POM
PC actively mutes most sound
PP is a little interesting, but im not sure what sound profile you'd call it, POM can sound harsh, so if you have poron foam (mutes high frequencies and emphasises lower end frequency so it eliminates most of that inherent harshness
they're all plastic plates, so they will all be fairly soft, some more than others but yeah
just with different properties to them
Alright so I just tested the geon raws my switch of choice in FR4 and it sounded awful and then in teh PC plate it sounded amazing
or sounded much much better
So its not about the switch all the time but how you build your keyboard ARound your switch to make it sound bettter
Thats my takeaway
I think I like pairing a clacky switch with a soft plate
switches are a large component, but you also need to take into account the entire keyboard as that environment matters just as much imo. But its just something you need to do alot of experimenting with since different combinations might yield much greater results ov er time
for like a deep clack switch i do love it with POM paired with poron as it gives it a nice marbly sound
Would you recommend I try POM plate for my V2?
i think its worth trying yeah
Right now im basically testing out stuff with my old 60 HE build that has a PC plate trying different switches and modding the V1 so that I will copy that build and take it to the V2
So im using that one for mods to see what I like/dont like then using that info to change my V2
Okay then, I tried jadepros and tikkens, and thunderflash are the best for me, just can't decide which ones x)
im not sure how useful that will end up being since V2 has friction fit and other things, but i would just mod your V2 instead tbh
My V1 is also friction fitted
Only difference is that my V1 has PC plate while V2 has FR4
i think the only real difference is RGB as it looks to be PC top and bottom housing and POM stem
Rgb is exactly the same, but yeah they are almost the same x), I'm just overthinking hhh
well no
one is fully black
the other is completely transparent
same material, but all black top and bottom housing WILL tint your RGB if that matters to you
They are identicall... RBG does not matter for me, I need them for the arrows only anyways x)
I’d just get whichever shouldn’t matter too much
How you want your board to sound?
I like mine to sound silky but with a touch of creamy but not enough to sound buttery
I’m buying whole batch
Creamy pop with a drizzle of sweet nutmeg is the objective best sound profile
hi guys, are pbt keycaps for one with super sweaty hands good or is it still as bad as abs keycaps?
They’re usually less textured than ABS
fr? abs feel so smooth imo
Cheap ABS yes, good ABS- no
I mean, it's the keycaps that I got with my 80he... 
80HE comes with PBT
not for me, back when I ordered, there were no frenchy pbt keycaps set
ah
they released less than a month after my order 
so would it be worth the hassle? or should I just stick to my abs set?
I really wanna try driving a board with a solenoid built in. Seems so silly and fun
I think other high quality keycaps like PBTfans or doubleshot ABS keycaps such as GMK and Keykobo will have more texture than the Wooting ABS
If that's what you want, then go for it I guess
Never had Wooting keycaps but I’ll assume they’re not even close to compare them with other abs keycaps such as Keycaps from GMK, JTK, Keykobo or SW
sure but in french layout?
yeah but the problem is that I'm so used to my ISO layout, when I looked up for pbt elsewhere, there was only ANSI
Yeah cuz ANSI is way more popular, but some companies selling extras for ISO layouts
I can only recommend swapping to ansi tbh
90% of apps and games are preset to work on ansi
Shafie stock wooting 60he+ keycaps are pbt right?
Sometimes you need to buy basic set + international kit, sometimes not 
Yes
Not sure I haven't used Lyla
Ohhh my bad i meant like in general PBTFans
yo can I DM you ?
true but I'd still need the iso layout for school related stuff so that wouldn't really work for me in the end
True, I'll stick with white ones
K no worries
I understand whatever that blah blah blah videos arent good to listen to whatever but it gives a rough idea of how I want it to sound and dont have any other way to better describe it then showing you a video of how I want my board to sound. At this video here the geon raws inside of the wooting 80he zinc alloy I want that similar softish sound but on the V2 I dont see why that wouldnt be possible? Based on this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYACSlhQg9E 3:19 I like that soft mushy sort of sound which doesnt sound like anything at all when I put the geon raws inside of the V2
Time for custom switches! I tested the Geon RAW HE, Gateron Jade, GUGU Black Knight, and our very own Lekker V2 to compare their sound profiles. All of these switches are compatible with both the 60HE and 80HE.
Lekker V2 L45 https://wooting.io/product/lekker-switch-l45-v2?Size=70+pack
Lekker V2 L60 https://wooting.io/product/lekker-switch-l60-v...
Do I just not like the FR4 plate ?
I understand its not going to exactly sound the same im not looking for it sound exactly the same but close
well the 80he uses a PC plate which is a lot softer than 60he v2s fr4 plate making it more dampened
it also uses a full silicone sandwich pad which also contributes to the change in sound
since the v2 has cut alphas to be poron foam
- Can POM plate be used as a substitute here into the 60 he v2 instead of PC plate cause torontokeyboardman offers POM plate for 60hev2
- So should I use full silicone sandwich pad instead?
i personally dont quite know the difference between pom and pc
and yes, you should try looking for a full silicone pad instead if youre trying to replicate what was done in the video
What is the full silicone pad doing to the sound in the keyboard? What does it do?
i had a sound comparison before lemme see if i can find it
Thanks
heres the difference in plates (albeit a different switch but gives you a rough idea): #1436013386855874631 message
#🔧│keyboard_modding message
silicone vs foam: #🔧│keyboard_modding message
you can read the conversations under the messages too
Thanks
this chat has changed
we use to be a flux cult
now everyone getting invaded by UFOs
smh uncs smh
it was less about the flux, DCF was just the gateway for the Marbly Church 
Flux just made the POM less ass
but they heavy bruh

berri true
sometimes its weight of our own expectations that crashes hardest
What switches will be popular after the UFO`s yall think
icl thats amazing kung fu advice
only time will tell lol
Nova already, but the next "amazing" haven't really been shown yet
We will see if the nova`s get the hype
Someone knows how to remove ufos?
you dont
They remove like any others
I cant seem to reach the other side with the switch puller since the rgb diffuser is blocking it
You keep them in the board
Oh lord
should be fine if you have a half way decent puller

you just cant open them
Thats betray of our cosmic friends
or worst case just separate the plate from PCB
NONO I AINT BETRAYING
And the whole cult of the UFO switches
the free wooting switch puller is the best in the business 
Truly
holy cap
Maybe open the module
Wuque was much better, makes it extremely easy and quick
you've upgraded from 🧢 to 🎓
im a scholar now
And put the switches out of the plate
you've now earned a 25% discount
is there a way to only buy the 3 keycaps that make the split spacebar
China sites probably 
we making out of the hood with this one 🔥
Ohh you didn't know about the tabs at all lol, that explains it
very celestial unc
Holy how much force do they need to get out💔
Should be easy to remove
Im clearly doing something wrong
not much at all
you hook your puller under the little tabs, push together and then up
I have to admit tho that the UFO`s look absolutely sick
they cant be opened with a normal tool 
put more strength into it
Im telling purely the looks
what puller are you using
get the tx puller/wuque titanium 
There shouldn't been a sacrifice like that
Silver soon 👀
Looks>practicality
candy switches
Ye that color is sweet
Well no, it just coincidentally looks allright
Are you using the switch puller from gravastar or are using a gateron style witch puller
theres pink too for the ladies, but OOS right now
I love white switches for better rgb
yummy
Silver will be great
Ye
probably swapping my whole purple set and selling that
I tried using both but it seems like im too dumb for it
GravaStar UFO Magnetic Switch - Hall Effect Gaming Switches (DISCOUNT code: "MIGSS"):
https://www.gravastar.com/products/gravastar-ufo-magnetic-switch-hall-effect-gaming-switches?sca_ref=6844958.ialvf89jhw&utm_source=tiktok&utm_medium=influencer&utm_campaign=kolinflu
GravaStar Mercury V60 Pro (DISCOUNT code: "MIGSS"):
https://www.gravastar.com/...
ags radiants look the coolest to me for being the normal looking style switch 
wooting friction fit pad and new fr4 for my gt60 pro along side foam kit and ultra pro+ from unionwell
the koi switches are pretty
Yes 

nice
Yes
not available because It's out of stock or is the black color just offsale?
ill do pc cause im too lazy to set up my phone
THOCKKKKKKK
what the helly
Radiants do look nice, might try them, but i have 8 more switches coming rn
Ye..
I WANT KOISS
Never heard a soundtest of those
Push pins on the left and right and pull the switch up. Might need some force but don't worry about it, you won't break anything.
Happy birthday weekend to me. Shafie I'm expecting you to keep everyone in line!
Okay will try thanks, but i just keep slipping off everytime
When you Buy the Gravastar v60 for the UFO Switches because its only $16 more than 75 switches just to swap them on to a Wooting v2 later
Happs Bday!!!
Happy belated pops
i have a resupply coming of that aswell, i liked them alot, only got 10 first
Not belated! It's today
How old is Pops turning 
Basically no diff in stability and quieter, more RGB through aswell
I saw bday weekend so thought maybe it was later, but happy bday regardless 
Is very deep sounding?
I DID IT
I shared in the super secret channel earlier but my girls did take me to brunch earlier
Awwww they took you?! Thats so sweet 
Happy birthday!
brother is being loud as fuck 
how to mute him irl
Beat him up
In my experience, a karate chop to the throat usually works.
happy birthday 
Now now yunc, violence is not the answer ☝️ 🤓
you have been reported to: parents
penalty: death
until it is
Gotta love my life
Peace and quiet where no one can disturb my sound tests 
Tradeoff- being lonely
Thanks for the birthday love! I'm headed out for my next birthday surprise. No clue what it is but I hope it's a massage lol
Have fun!!

@fluid ravine become comfortable being alone. It's not loneliness it's solitude!
not sure if deep is a word for it, just quiet
Has anyone tried out silent hall effect switches on the Wooting 80?
I'm considering putting something together that is work-friendly 😛
Muted clack probably
not sure, whatever clack really is, to me it doesn't sound that way
HBD young man
There are 4 like main ones
On wootinb sound tests
Hmmm ok
You will see in person, this is impossible to describe to give you the proper idea
Alright
just quieter UFO imo
@fluid ravine
kois 
Could you recprd it?
Those were too loud imo
To what end? the phone i have will never give it back
Just the general idea yk
I didn't find them loud personally, some others have.
But relative to that Nova is quieter.
Sno has recordings with better quality mics, you can get a general idea from those.
I didn't :/
China takes forever
Ye
My sample kit was from a TB reseller (idk if it was Keyspire or not), and the 90 pieces resupply was private listing
yeah i guess it was
I don’t care honestly
I’m at the point now where only a new generation of switches would make me replace the Fluxes
Anything overhyped will become stale at some point
I was curious about fluxes, but then it was killed off for me so i just skipped
Except the Centerpiece which is forever
what is that?
im just trolling when i talk about the UFO's switches i personally have no hate towards them but its funny seeing people get angry because i said "its heavy bruh"
https://finalmouse.com/products/centerpiece-pro A very silly keyboard
the keyboard that was given to moses by God himself 
Ig I have same opinion on UFO’s
Uh, I mean it’s a decent switch, but I’ll probably skip it just like I did with the Owlab Ti’s, Duhun lumia herz, Raptor V2s
Good reminder, was gonna get Raptors too, but then the shipping made no sense
Unlucky.. for them.
V3 will deliver better, surely.
Just imagine… 1 year ago….
Anyone know if this POM plate swap is friction fit compatible?

👋
I don’t see why not
It has been a while
@fluid ravine how's your arm?
@robust siren send me sound test in dm
Hey Darth! Yeah my arm is doing good
7 months in recovery and I'm able to play volleyball again 
did it
Thanks bub
alr bub
glad to hear that
Got something important to attend to rn so I gonna listen to it later
wooting has been cooking since the last time i was here
Has anyone personally tested the Jade Ultra vs. Jade Pro?
Some complained about the controversial decision to split stem
Anyone know if this is worth getting for my tenz 80he?
looks like piss yellow 
lol yeah I think he’s going for a different crowd with this one
I got cosmos tho. So I appreciate the process lol
Yo this looks fire tho:

How the fiik


Thanks bro. Yeah feel free to use it. Let’s see if it catches on.
fiik
youre never getting it
"Marginally better than the GT60, but still dogshit"


hey guys im trying to do the tape mod on my 80he and ive removed all the screws and the bottom part of the case is not budging and i dont want to break the top case, the video says push it to the back and im trying to do that but its not working. anyone got any tips😭
Grrr fight me
if you've removed all the screws, you want to have your thumb on the bottom part of the case and your index finger on the lip of the top case and slightly jiggle it forward until it comes off
80HE also comes with a partial tape mod, so if you still are having trouble then keeping it on should still be fine
okay, i tried to wiggle it and the botttom middle lip will not budge. and i am just now seeing a lot of feedback about how theres not much difference so i think ill just keep it lol
did you get PCR or zinc as your case
pcr
it might be the clips arent coming undone then
i had zinc and it just came off without too much hassle
the lips are bending way too much for comfort and clearly the bottom lip is on a clip. either im not strong enough or im doing it wrong
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id try following sander's motion if you havent already
I guess you just have to unhook it from each side
makes sense then the standard zinc way wasnt working
he is unclipping it by putting his finger behind it, i cant do that with the main module in😭
@tropic urchin i switched back to the alu plate
I can't lie after trying all 3 plates, i've came to appreciate the resonance that alu gives off
if i do you never get kois 
how to get kois 
pay the ccp a visit
wait anyone remember that one stupid expensive tray mount case name
i can't remember

Oh 04:50 Gn
Fjell
god that took so long
Oh 1 year in Wooting community actually 
oh happy 1 year
Tasteful resonance fan 🗣️ 🔥
gonna take a new sound test of the fr4
i think the time i recorded a sound test with my phone i installed the oring incorrectly making it sound crazy resonate
i tried the fr4 again just now, now it sounds fine

who doesn't like some Mr. Krabs


all of them should be recording at almost the same settings
db, no eq, mic distance should almost be 1:1 with all of them


lmao
ohw the whole board sounds muted now that im listening through astrals
whatchu use to record laa
aight time to go back to alu
i've changed my opinions about fr4
i just used windows sound recorder and my fifine mic 
its nice i dont hate it anymore
event he spacebar sounds perfectly fine
guess it was my fault the last time i tried it
o same
maybe its the volume? 
wait how does your come out with the picture 
i edit using clipchamp and just import a photo
o 
does clip champ have post audio processing?
can you send the raw recording here?
im not sure actually
i wanna listen
i need to cut it 
i recorded like 4 minutes 

cause i kept fucking up and brother was being loud
LMAO
i wouldve kept restarting i can't lie
and do what pop said
karate chop to the throat
@fluid ravine I think I made alu plate work a wee bit
is the one you sent me alu?
btw idk if i want to get a 10cm jst cable
idk if the extra length of the cable is like inhibiting the left side of the board to bounce
Yeah been experimenting
i see
its not bad
a bit louder and sharper by a wee bit
Probably the tape mod
did you add any mods?
Alu just sounds hollow so I thought it would help in raising the volume and tryna make it fuller
Just tape mod

oh wait
it might be to foam
i squashed into the case somehow
maybe no foam recording tomorrow
PP 
I never really fully liked PP

And was little too floppy but maybe that’s more of an L with poron gasket
i mean pp is more flexible than POM am i right?
Ye
Pp plate is good 🤤
could be bc of how big and flexible the plate is on the 80he (PP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lMxnKB41Lg @cloud crane
Thumbnail photo credit goes to the client, @Dito_Keebs
This is my first time trying out a plateless build with CEM-3. I’m not sure if I prefer the sound of CEM-3 PCB over FR4 PCB or not, but I’m sure that I much prefer the feel of FR4 PCB more over CEM-3 for plateless build.
Huge thanks to the client for trusting me with building your boar...

I'm gooning to ts 🤤
for reallll
🤝
my old recording off neo65 with milky yellows
broken arm era
Me likey 🤤
We've tested compatibility with popular HE PCBs like Wooting 60HE V1/V2, Rakka Atlas 60HE, and Venom 60HE.
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i love this, they bringing broad compatibility. dang i should've waited for this instead of getting 2nd tofu redux for v2
Idk if it’s he top mount or the switch
But some doesn’t sit quite right for me
weh
Or maybe I’m just he hatin again
kbdfans committing war crimes
Idk there’s some abt the sound that doesn’t click with me
oh ok i see waht you mean now
is it like muted in a way
this mic sucks i can't lie
doesn't sound like a proper alu top mount tbh
well to be honest
its a reallly nice build for MX
but in terms of using it for HE with wooting and rakka i find it a bit disappointing but at the same time can't help with the fact that its only top mount compatible
im not a big fan of it as well
but i think it also has to do with the mic or wtv they're using to record
i can also potentially see cases that can have both gasket and top mount for HE pcbs like wooting and rakka by taking advantage of the plates
prolly the switches
Might be both
I feel like top mount with a mid he switch is not great
maybe
i think its the mount, plate, and HE
mount maybe doesnt fit well with HE
and plate bc well, why alu on top mount 
They keep choosing bad he switches for their sound tests tbh
this too
They probably just choose switches from the kbdfans website
Just like milktooth
For their website
At least milktooth has a couple solid he switches
All of the he switches on kbdfans are mid at best
Ye
Yeah that’s why I went pp for my top mount
Like most of their switches are the jade dynasty
I knew bcp with alu top mount would be too harsh
And 3 other mid switches
exactly
And the prices are shit cuz of shippin if ur in the us
So there’s no reason to get any he switch from kbd
True
I'd buy it if the stupid port wasn't in the middle
(I mean I'd also have no clue what to do with my redux lol)
lol
i mean the adapter...
its pretty neat
Oh yeah the adapter is super neat, it just makes my coiled cable look unorganized😭
LMAO
coiled cable is jealous
I have fucking magnetic holders from secretlab to keep it perfectly aligned lol

just get a straight cable frfr
personally never a fan of coiled
like i dont mind how they look but just moving the board around then the coils like leads towards it at a different angle seems annoying
But like it's perfectly centered lmao
i see what you mean now about the center usb port 😂

oof
just make it longer fr
Idfk why it was purposely made short, like the cable was made short to accommodate for 8k and the coiled cable, but idk why they had to make the straight connector so short
WOOTING WHY DO YOU MAKE IT SO SHORT
@calm pulsar how sthe luminkey
Get XX Cable trust 
i neeed
Me too 🤤
👀
even the lead tape guy is sick of hmx
Yeah they really need new molds
Lol I like that he’s become lead tape guy
RIP HMX, hopefully they made enough to make another mold to milk
This is hella nice icl
That’s a pretty combination
Definitely not smashing my desk when I’m using this build 😭
Yea sound is great too
It’s my first build so I’m hella proud of it
What switches?
its nice, havent used it in a while since I’ve been on 80he pill
I use an hmx franken in there hehe
MX one
whatchu use
WS Flux
I remember when I first wanted this as my first mx board
The deep clacks or regular
Regular
Planning on also trying out the deep clack ones asw to see which one I prefer
also green fluxies
Sheeesh those look nice
pc top, pa9 stem, pa66 bottom
so far i am loving the ice ultras
prolly i should try the stock 80 plate bc on cf it feels weird for me
Whats the strap called
Hi all, I just bought a 60he+ and wanted to change to switches to a less “clicky” feel, but to more of a silent, thocc feel. Any suggestions?
Im running DC Flux's they are p clacky and if u do it with some mods and some others, it shld be thocc
Tikkens are a good go to as well or a gravastar
btw does anyone have a link for gravastar switches??
Thank you
it's a recolor of ocean whispers

I bought Gravastar UFOs and slapped them into my 60he v2, I hate the gravastar keeb looks
It's like a melty holy60 with leggies
Not my thing
Yet another recolour 
hmx raptor extreme gaming 3.0 mm travel, but I changed the housing from red to black from some rail bottom out black switch from hmx, dont remember the name, I think its like a mx black kinda switch
my ufo pic
Lets goo, Crazed ftw
what did you end up getting? some 65%?
If you want a more muted and deeper sounding board check out the keytok nova's
They are probably the most muted deep sounding switch rn
Also do the tape mod
buy wootings pc plate to replace the steel one
Whats the difference between the ISO kit and the ANSI kit
different layouts
ansi is normal enter key
iso is the one with the big L enter key
Ok thanks
The diffuser on these looks so weird
It looks like it could fall out
yeah it looks like that
its very tight
it doesnt come out
Hmm okay
Btw what switches do you have?
Just HE ones?
yes 50 HE
Thats a lot lol
yes
Can you name like your top 10 of those?
i have too many, cant rank properly
Hmm
i have a switch tierlist in my bio
but the photo is not updated
Oh
i have like a few more switches to update
Alr
u can check my bio if uw, it was last updated a week ago
i prefer flip koms
but ill retry
thanks for the headsup
no i have more
thats why i said 50
i cant possibly list all
Oh ok
ye
restock soon, surely

UFO has the nicest sound, but they cost as much as an airplane wing 🙁
I'm going to order Unionwell Ice Shine. They're pretty close to UFO quality.
~86$ for 87 of them
Is ice shine one of the variants of the snow switch?
unionwell love their million recolor names
Ice Shine belongs to the Polar series, but they have a noticeably lower pitch than Polar/Polar Pro
oh it is
it's blue recolor of the snow
yeah, i don't think those are similar to ufo at all to be honest
I like UFOs
Using the one that came with my Winshop 2 to 1 Cable
But not the switch lol

the unionwell snow series is basically just their version of gateron jade ultra/ttc flip style switch
fully enclosed split stem sound
Thoughts on kom pom?
very muted and very different sound to ufo
I would trust sno
I have both
very muted and soft
I have him largely to thank for my setup choices*, cheers sir 
and not in a good way
he said kom pom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpJm6OjEwQU
Unionwell ice shine 9:57
UFO 12:35
0:00 導入
0:50 C tier
1:08 B tier
1:45 B+ tier
2:09 A tier
2:38 S tier
8:08 SS tier
14:19 番外編、初心者向け
#星岚轴 #指尖文创
#UFOSwitch #GravaStar #Magnetic Switch
i have both, they do not sound at all the same. I don't know who recorded that list but ufo is nothing like snow
they're both also in our switch database and sound nothing alike
yes
the horse and flip kom is way better than kom pom
not as soft feeling and sounding
soy i gotta be honest
I didn't say they sound the same, it's just that among the switches I have available, the Ice Shine is the closest to them.
i question some of the statements you make sometimes lol
yeah okay bro
They don't have the same low frequencies as the UFO, but the pitch is almost identical.
especially the old kom pom series, they're super loud
or are you saying flip is muted/soft vs old kom? because that would make sense
yes I think i typed wrongly
okay that makes more sense
which is ur fav ttc switch now
you said the reverse before, which makes no sense lol
i'm maining horses for now
i just like that horses have a unique sound
I'm probably trying all those switches today, i finally have a day off and well rested + chores done
I agree
5 switches to try Pog
did u manage to get pink lotus from wuque
yeah they're sending me some, i told them to just send them later with the zoom kit and other bits they wanted to send
unionwell ice shine have a lower pitch than jade ultra?
it's louder than jade ultra
jade Ultra has a plasticky sound to it and it's not as loud
I'll have the Pink Lotuses here in 2-3 days. Aswell as Magmas, Snows and more Novas.
pink lotuses not that interesting to me honestly
ocean whisper seems just straight up better for what most people would like
it's not too special idk
I have it but idk how I feel about it
although ocean whisper isn't even available to public anyway unless they buy with kit
so it's kind of eh
deep clack will still remain most popular
Thank you. What switches with minimal wobble and pitch can you recommend?
I'm interested in creamy sound, even though it's impossible with magnetic switches
so far, the pins bend more and are harder to take out
I don't mind what "most people" want, just how i like certain switches.
I skipped DCF and it's recolors, so i don't mind Pink Lotus try out.
tough question considering u mentioned creamy
my pink lotus pins be bending and the switches generally are hard to take out
just listen to the database and make up your own mind honestly. Almost all the walled switches nowadays are stable enough
I'll try that out, just after one insert?
at this stage it's more about finding your preference than worrying about wobble
almost every with a walled stem is already very stable nowadays. Some exceptions like ufo which are more stable, but almost everything is in that similar range of good top with excellent bottom stability
Do you just testing or customizing switches as well?
Yeah looks like with 2026, we are entering stable stem design meta
Yeah
ye switches now r quite stable, sound and feel is a better priority now
eh i do that once in awhile, but rarely nowadays because frankenswitch is kind of not necessary anymore
back in day of few options there was more incentive to do frankenswitch stuff with old raptor x lekker combo for example
I see, they release a ton of new switches nowadays
yeah there's usually something great that fits what you want without needing to do frankenswitch nowadays
honestly my mark for if i really enjoy a switch nowadays is if I hand lube them or not
because i'm swapping switches so much that if i hand lube it means it's something interesting enough for me to keep in personal build for awhile
What are your top 3 favourites that deserved the hand lubing?
right now? TTC horses. If i had to pick 2 other interesting ones that i'd hand lube is maybe keytok nova and whatever wuque flux fits preference
ufo is very interesting too but too much of a pita to open unless you're using the double switch opener method and such
did u face issues with any of ur flux
i had some spring crunch
Is this a way to open them??
yeah flux have very minor housing crunch after some period of use
pins breaking , tight fit as well
i never had pins breaking for me, but i have good switch pullers and never break switches ever
I listened to almost everything on this list, and the Phylina Thunderflash seemed the quietest (among the non-silent and non-UFO).
Thunderflash was quieter than Jade Ultra in wooting tests.
However, Ice Shine was quieter than Thunderflash in Japanese tests.
But you claim that Ice Shine is louder than Jade Ultra.
This creates a dissonance.
ive seen people break their pins
bcos they dont pull out straight
i dislike most of the japanese tests to be honest
thunderflash is not quiet
i have it
i assume he means muted not volume wise
Not sure what you mean. Have a nice day.
as in not sharp
I didn't say they were quiet, I said they were quieter than the switches in the wooting sheet
Thank you for your reply. 
quiet vs quiet in terms of harshness is diff
I have the og kom poms
yeah they are loud
honestly i'd be weary of trusting pure volume on most sound tests, there's a reason i never put in exact db ratings because i don't think there's a consistent way to do sound test volume without a machine pressing the key
The ufos! Is this an opener for the switches themselves. Also, I hope you have a great day too!
Love that little feel when it hits the cf plate
from one switch to another you might just happen to bottom out harder on the given day, or feel more comfortable on the spring weight or god knows what else - so there will be minor sound volume differences just from those factors already
Its a beautiful mix of a subtle resistance instead of a hard feel, somehow nicer on the fingers
i saw this video earlier today on how to open em
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Kj5-EhJ-keE
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9IXWjLZdcVY
Which of them are quieter in your opinion?
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Jade Ultra has much higher frequencies imo
they're pretty similar but jade ultra to me is more muted
yeah what jed said
That's weird. It might be the EQ of our headphones.
Sound aside. I use headphones and listen to music so I dont hear them. No cards in this fight
for me, the jade ultra is more muted irl but i dont particularly love the plasticky sound
I just love the feel
i would be very weary of trusting some of the japanese sound tests you find just fyi. A lot of them are recorded on phones or with very poor mic setups/distancing that don't give realistic sound
phylina thunderflash is smth i would rather buy over the jade ultra
kosio's ones for example are often very far from real life sounding and sound very reverb heavy/less chattery due to how he records
it's just side effect of using phone audio and/or the distance to the switch being incorrect and causing heavy proximity effect
Which switches have a lower pitch than the Jade Ultra (among the walled ones)?
keytok nova
They are not sold in my region
honestly jade ultra is a fine pick for you if you just like that muted kind of sound
i dont have nova, so i cant comment
yeah this
where are u from bro
they're quite reasonably priced too, at least compared to stuff before like the sparks which were absurd
Ukraine
i was using jade ultra for a month or so when i was testing it with switch selector
they're a fun switch if you just want a heavily muted sound
oh then ure buying off aliexpress?
extremely short travel though, so just one thing to be aware of when using them - it takes a bit to get used to how much shorter travel they are
yeah the jade ultra is an improved and cheaper spark tbh
ofc
there's some fun switches coming up though i think in next couple months maybe they'll be out
but no real sense waiting as there's always new switches around the corner
Yes, this bothers me because I plan to use switches for pseudo-analog control (walk->run) sometimes.
ah yeah then that may be a bit annoying because the jade ultra/spark are among the shortest travel switches in HE
Will you be getting the Omnitype HE switches if they ever release? 👀
Unfortunately, the phylina also has a very short travel (3.3)
I'm at a dead end again xd






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