🔧│keyboard_modding

[tawdry tree]

no mention of split space support too

[chilly mural]

They be thinking rgb sells

[tawdry tree]

it can, but idk if kaleidoscopic cloud light sells😂

[chilly mural]

Never underestimate how much special words sells

[tawdry tree]

true

[crimson sky]

the ENIG plate was important

[fallen pecan]

Looks like it does, peep the plate

[crimson sky]

the ENIG on the plate is entirely useless

[sacred elm]

Module looks familiar

Split space, PET film, FR4

[fallen pecan]

$90 vs $140 for the 60v2

[craggy light]

aluminum plate pog

[sacred elm]

Awful software

[crimson sky]

it's not alu plate tho

it is FR-4

[robust siren]

why did gateron take the gt60 name

[craggy light]

waiting for the 60he v2 to become available so i can get a cf plate somewhere

[chilly mural]

frfr.

[little glen]

Typical gateron, ruining a good thing by trying to barge their way in

[humble surge]

Very nice, i'm happy to see that

[hearty pivot]

bro im actually so pissed

i went through all that effort last night to install these stabilizers

just for it to be fucked

does anyone know what part i fucked up at for the keys not to press down all the way

when pressing any of the keys with stabilizers, it can only go to around 2.8-2.9 unles i put hard pressure

[little glen]

what switches are you using

[hearty pivot]

uhh

gateron

jade pros

[glacial wind]

you'll probably need to provide people more photos close up of the install for them to see what you maybe did wrong

[hearty pivot]

what my brother said could be the cause, is when I was installing the stabilizers, i pulled the stem all the way up and had the stabilizer wire underneath it before twisting it and clicking it in to the house, and that the stem could be too high up and cant go down all the way

i have no idea if thats true or not though he was just guessing

[glacial wind]

well he could be right, but we can't tell without some sort of video or photo close up of your stabilisers

it could be that, it could be improperly seated, could be not screwed in correctly, could be a lot of random things

we need some sort of visual to be able to tell

[sacred elm]

Double check stabilizers, you probably didn't install them properly.

Guide how to install screw-in stabilizers on Wooting, timestamped https://youtu.be/QBwhRDOVgJk?t=232

[hearty pivot]

Does this help at all

[glacial wind]

They do look too high

[hearty pivot]

🥹 another 5 years for me

[little glen]

you have clear stabs so checking if the wire is inserted correctly should be easy

but yeah i would say it looks too high

[glacial wind]

You probably put the wire in the wrong hole, have a closer look

[hearty pivot]

I see what my brother was talking about, but the video said click it in the highest point

cause there was like 3 holes

Is it supposed to go inside the physical stem, or on the outside of it

Because I went underneath the stem and then clicked it in

[little glen]

the wire needs to go inside the stem

[glacial wind]

Inside the stem, there’s kind of two boxes to insert it into, you probably put it into the wrong one

[hearty pivot]

Ik what you mean I didn't put it in either box is what I'm saying

I think I see where I went wrong

Cause I just went underneath the strm

stem*

[glacial wind]

Then sounds like it’s time to take it apart and redo it

I recommend the new kdrama dynamite kiss for background viewing while you do this

[glacial wind]

A typical story of a chaebol Korean son who falls for the poor worker

[little glen]

if you pull up, the stem needs to pull the wire with it so it rotates a little and forces the other stem up as well

(this diagram is not exact, i just drew this real quick with no reference except for what i remember)

[robust siren]

hey

2 days early

hopefully im not last on the ups trucks' route

[little glen]

i got mine one day early

[humble surge]

I just called him, yes you are

[little glen]

which would have been nice cause i originally had to be somewhere today

but i felt sick so i didnt go :(

[hearty pivot]

Bro how did you draw this 😭😭

[little glen]

paint

[robust siren]

by drawing it

[hearty pivot]

no but like it's actually good

[robust siren]

[hearty pivot]

Like I see what they're talking about now

😭😭

[little glen]

[hearty pivot]

Yeah I definitely see where I fucked up now

I remember seeing that little like upward pattern but I just lifted the stem all the way up and clipped it there

😭

Fuck me bro that took me like four hours

[little glen]

i installed some new stabs yesterday

took me like 40 minutes

and thats only cause i was an idiot and used the wrong lube for the first stab

so i had to go and clean it all up first

[robust siren]

idk how long it took me to do stabs for the first time

having clear ones tho def helps

[little glen]

[robust siren]

thats why knights stabs are the goat

[little glen]

i dont think i would have figured it out otherwise

[robust siren]

the goat 🗣️

[little glen]

i gotta say tho

those typeplus

are really good

[tawdry tree]

as a red and black enjoyer, they do score high on aesthetics, but not on function

[craggy light]

what plate is that

probably came with that expensive case

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/ms-paint-my-beloved-gif-653405235114632849

[tawdry tree]

ye

silver cf

[craggy light]

goes fucking hard

[peak breach]

not in funcion? it's a switch and it works fine

[tawdry tree]

you know exactly what I mean

[peak breach]

no i dont as i havent experienced switch crunch

[tawdry tree]

therefore it doesn’t exist?

[stark osprey]

Same , I am on 2 sets of raptor v2s now, no spring crunch for me either. First set I had since launch too. S-tier stability, S-tier price.

[grizzled vale]

what kind of website got nice cases and keycaps? this is my first wooting soo pls help:)

[robust siren]

sort by your region
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[left knot]

Do we know if the new module will fit into previous cases like the Tofu Redux? 🤔

Ope disregard. Looks like it will.

[hearty pivot]

@robust siren @little glen I fixed it 😭😭

It sounds so good

Idk if it sounds how it's supposed to but it's ten times better than my old stabilizers so I'm happy

[robust siren]

[paper bloom]

W

[chilly mural]

time to split

[robust siren]

indeed

time to split

[glossy pagoda]

I'm confused, your product box is a split module but your keyboard is not

Or is that your previous 60HE?

[robust siren]

i have a 60he+

[glossy pagoda]

Ooh

[craggy light]

those keycaps look nice

[tropic urchin]

its actually a MAD60

dont let the soju keycaps fool you

[robust siren]

I GOT SWITCHY DERPY

[little glen]

oh i didnt know the stickers were random

[glossy pagoda]

A little birdie told me that it's possible to pull a hyper-rare sticker...

[robust siren]

also like wow this packaging is

[trail bane]

Wotafack

I need those stickers immediately

[little glen]

i have these

[robust siren]

lets try out these 100g titons

[little glen]

Not one of these right

[glossy pagoda]

You'd know it if you saw it

[little glen]

these are my gamescom stickers

[robust siren]

well time to disassemble my old board

check out how these stabs sound stock

[little glen]

they are great for a fidget toy on your desk

put a spare keycap on and now you can press it if you want

[robust siren]

friction fit pad removed

wait i cant even use it on my old one cause it fills the empty area with split spacebar

maybe entirely foam would be better than having it hybrid

[little glen]

i just left the foam on the alphas and left the rest foamless

[robust siren]

okay

stabs need a bit of work

but theyre not horrid

okay my right shift is just doomed

[tall hollow]

soju~

[obsidian sinew]

anyone know a trick to removing HE switches without breaking the little clamps? i took apart the entire keyboard, like wooting suggests, and i still busted like 10 switches out of the 60. i wobble them and everything. they just stick inside the housing, i dont get it

[robust siren]

build shall continue later

[left knot]

What switches are you using? 😮

Also gamers, I need suggestions for not super expensive key caps. I wanna do a more chill build with the new module.

case is the meteorite gray from tofu

[obsidian sinew]

geon raws, but it even happens with the new lekker tikkens

[left knot]

That is scary lol

I have the Dashes and I thankfully haven't had that issue

[little glen]

try pushing them out from underneath

[obsidian sinew]

okay

[tall hollow]

final exams?

[robust siren]

lunch

[tall hollow]

oh lmao

[tropic urchin]

anodized is more durable, everyone does ecoating a bit differently, but it will never be as durable as anodized

[distant raven]

I haven't even looked at my stickers.

I guess now I should.

[oak jewel]

VERY RARE PULL

Also best pull

[distant raven]

Okay I have to look now

[distant raven]

Nothing super notable.

But I have two Wooting postcards!

[glossy pagoda]

Two post cards? wuuut

[ornate quest]

Note him down so you can ignore his first

[robust siren]

first time typing on the v2

❤️

ill do a proper sound test later but...

i like this default rgb effect

[distant raven]

I own two Wooting keyboard.

[glossy pagoda]

Oh that makes more sense

[distant raven]

But I see now his that may have been taken as that I got two postcard in one pack. I did not.

[ornate quest]

Okay, you‘re allowed your two favors again

[glossy pagoda]

You know what has always surprised me about the postcards? Nobody has ever submitted a postcard request for two new postcards

[robust siren]

my right shifts are always cursed

[distant raven]

If I send in both postcards saying "80HE Split Module"

[velvet egret]

fr, Default RGB is big W. Also updating firmware and seeing the lights go from red to green as it progresses is AMAZING

[glossy pagoda]

Easiest infinite money glitch ever

[robust siren]

@tropic urchin

[tropic urchin]

luckily right shift is irrelevant key

[robust siren]

fr

i think the other keeys are actually fine

[distant raven]

Geometrically increasing postcards would be funny.

I just want 80HE Split

[robust siren]

maybe it sounded off because i inititally tested with titons

[distant raven]

And numpad module.

Right shift really is irrelevant. Who uses it?

[robust siren]

just did this

yeah its amazing

[robust siren]

it is?

packing is phenominal for the module

[little glen]

Maybe i should do that and ask for a different postcard and try to finish a collection that way

I already have wooting one, 80he and 60he v2 so i‘m not that far

My friend has a two and a 60he+ so if i can steal his i only need one i think

[chilly mural]

Time to steal

[ornate quest]

Maybe now that Mark spoiled a hyper-rare sticker I should use one of my postcards to request that

[robust siren]

i also now have 3 different colored switch+keycap pullers from wooting now

[full night]

ok guys i got these two „foam“ types to choose from

which one should i use?

(the white with black in the middle or all black.

white one is prebuilt

[robust siren]

man the white plate makes rgb pop so much on top of having white keycaps now

[robust siren]

use the silicone and foam one for the owlabs case

[full night]

ok

[tall hollow]

indeed

[full night]

what does the only foam one do?

[rough hedge]

The silicone and foam is for friction fit. The all foam one is if you want to use the oring mount with the ow60.
Idk if the v2 is compatible with the oring mount though

[full night]

can i still wrap this around then?

also, what is friction fit and oring mount

[rough hedge]

Yes that will wrap around if you use the all foam

Different type of mouting options that can have different effects on sound and type feel

Looks like you have the split. Website says it is NOT compatible with the oring mount. So you have to use the silicone/foam friction fit

[full night]

ok and then i cant use the grey rubberband?

[rough hedge]

Correct

[full night]

also, why cant i just screw the pcb on top now like i it was with the silikone. the all foam does seem to have all the holes for the screws…

what makes it only oring mount?

[rough hedge]

It says you have to use the cf plate that came with the ow60 to use the oring mount. Idk someone with an ow60 might have more info

[full night]

ok

ill just try and see

do you suggest so lube the stabilizers ?

[rough hedge]

It should already be lubbed

[nocturne canopy]

Hey Guys

I'd like to add more weight to my keyboard case. Do you have any good suggestions?

[chilly mural]

attach a dumbell below the keyboard

in seriousness, if you're using plastic case consider getting a metal/denser case. Maybe cerakeys to make the keycap heavy, and add in weight inside.

[nocturne canopy]

I have a aluminium case weighing about 300 grams. Good idea with cerakeys

[trail bane]

Copper

Brass etc

[chilly mural]

ohh, and maybe change the plate to something heavy too

like those 2

[nocturne canopy]

Nice! You guys know where i can get plates that fit the 60he v2?

Any reccomendations?

As heavy as possible

(Im all new to this, so trying not to order something wrong)

[chilly mural]

maybe wait on the plate first, the platefile for 60hev2 hasn't been released first. You should try searching what's the densest metal and looking for a case with GH60 compatibility with that material.

[nocturne canopy]

This one should be GH60 compatible?

https://www.maxgaming.dk/dk/plates-pcb-plates/venom60he-plate-628u-copper?utm_term=&utm_campaign=&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&campaign_id=22425655908&adgroup_id=&ad_id=&utm_term=&utm_campaign=&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&campaign_id=22425655908&adgroup_id=&ad_id=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22435646134&gclid=Cj0KCQiAuvTJBhCwARIsAL6Demje_5gNi31u9geeh0wwXOWDWpcLZXowfvwuYfcV5a5OtaHHP8qkq2QaAktKEALw_wcB

[trail bane]

I’m not sure actually because of standoff under backspace

I would say yes, rather then no

[nocturne canopy]

ty - ill just return it if it dosent fit. But ty for inputs guys!

[cyan lark]

-> #🐸│memes

[chilly mural]

Nooooo No no NOOOo. It's da best key to replace R-ctrl on my 80he.

[little glen]

wtf i just saw this poll and i would have 100% voted scooped

scooped on top fr fr

[cyan lark]

I just can't tell scooped from regular well enough quickly enough

Aesthetically they're arguably better

[cyan lark]

Caps Lock -> Control is the way

[little glen]

yeah to be fair i orient myself on the keyboard using the edges of it, not the f and j

but i also suck at typing soooo

[stray tiger]

Bars ftw!

If you're in the US and want to sell your bonus pack of the pre-order heavy switches DM me.

[glossy pagoda]

More bars in more places

[stray tiger]

@glossy pagoda have you typed on the GMK MTNU profile yet?

[glossy pagoda]

The what now

[glossy pagoda]

Sure haven't

[stray tiger]

They feel amazing but I refuse to buy because of how they look. Not to say they look bad, but they look different and my brain says that's bad lol

Scooped lovers dream

[glossy pagoda]

Change is scary

Speaking of, how are you liking the split?

[stray tiger]

I opted out of the split for my boards. Keycap struggles primarily

[glossy pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-bobby-smh-shaking-my-head-gif-18269382051844334745

[stray tiger]

I am however actively working to get that blank 1.25u included in future GMK sets

[glossy pagoda]

Fighting the good fight

[gilded seal]

is there switches similar to akko starfish? that was my old switches which I had the best feeling of. it had a double spring in the switches

[stray tiger]

You can definitely snag some two stage springs for whatever HE switches you have. Just make sure they are ok for magnetic switches - https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqJQQP7

[robust siren]

played a few games on cs and val

might just be placebo but im doing hella good today

time for some pics

[little glen]

i just need to find a way for someone to stock spacebar kits for common gmk colorways

[stray tiger]

Ideally designers will add it to spacebar kits. The way Wooting did split is a little different than mainstream splits so that blank 1.25u isn't typically added. I have however spoken to 3 major GMK designers though and got some agreements to add them in future kits.

[slow storm]

appreciate you for linking this! :)

[robust siren]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1449511482915033120

spec of dust on z

[rotund perch]

so clean

[slow storm]

really clean

@robust siren what DAC/mixer do you use for your IEMS ?

[robust siren]

i use a thumb-drive style dac/amp called the moondrop dawn pro 2

[slow storm]

ohh interesting, i think i've heard about it before

[rotund perch]

I'm delaying the purchase of a new case for so long lmao

honestly mostly cause i still dont know what color scheme i wanna go for

And i dont want to think about that right now

[humble surge]

I put the case order aside aswell, seems like a good call for now.

[cyan lark]

Wonderful seeing the legit split 😌

[robust siren]

its been great, i use it on 100% volume and windows at 7 and still feel like im on the edge of going deaf

gotta promote the post

[stray tiger]

Go with silver or gray and you can go with any color scheme you want. Black or white also work

Clear is also easy to work with if you like PC or acrylic cases

[rotund perch]

Wish white wasnt e-coated

[robust siren]

what case

[rotund perch]

gt-80

[tropic urchin]

I think the silver GT80 case can work better than the white bc the white GT80 is like a very pearlescent/milky veneer color, you could make the silver variant work as well if not better since you wont be worrying if the whites dont perfectly match

[robust siren]

@tropic urchin

[rotund perch]

tbf it would depend on keycaps anyway

[slow storm]

LOL

[tropic urchin]

silver will go fine for a white build, then if you want to deviate to another keycap build potentially, you can as well

[robust siren]

expanding collection of keycap pullers from wooting

[tropic urchin]

with silver you have flexibility

[tropic urchin]

you need a space king

[slow storm]

@robust siren i looked at some keycaps, i aint paying $160 when my keyboard was $282 😭

[robust siren]

i gotta total up my v2 build

[robust siren]

but my 60he+ was 661

[slow storm]

goodness gracious

[robust siren]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1436013386855874631

[robust siren]

FUCK

i was typing it on my phone

[tropic urchin]

inb4 someone else tries to roast you for it

[rotund perch]

its so hard to see the difference between white and silver in the kbdfans photos

[tropic urchin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMIjfmEXkOE

[robust siren]

i agree

[humble surge]

You think? when i was checking what GT-80 to get i thought the white and silver are very distinct

[tropic urchin]

Silver irl is shiny/white gold depending on how much light you have, but its a slightly more toned down with dim light

[robust siren]

@slow storm

[rotund perch]

well i do see a tiny difference but id need to see more photos

[robust siren]

almost 600

[rotund perch]

do you know what the side metal badge is

[tropic urchin]

The white GT80 is like looking at someone wearing veneers, its almost unnaturally white

[rotund perch]

cause i have no idea

[robust siren]

its where the strap goes

[tropic urchin]

the badge is the cheese grater

[robust siren]

a replacement piece

[rotund perch]

thats what i thought

[robust siren]

oh wait

[rotund perch]

thats front

[robust siren]

that too

[tired shard]

You see I feel so much better about my build not pricing it out because then i dont know how much i've spent

ignorance is bliss

[robust siren]

s o j u

[tropic urchin]

oh the side one is just an added extra

[humble surge]

Honestly when you spend that money over several months, the total really don't matter much.
You are making more money (optimally)

[tired shard]

true true

[robust siren]

[tropic urchin]

it gives you a distinct feel which helps with picking up off your table @rotund perch

and is decorative

[tired shard]

like i went from PCR -> ZINC -> HOly80.. so that shit alone is already

[rotund perch]

I like decoration!

[tired shard]

and thats just cases not even switches or keycaps

[tropic urchin]

its subtle but nice

big fan of the GT80 case as a whole

I hated the center port but honestly idc

[humble surge]

Switches alone were almost the price of the keyboard for me lol, but there were several months between the two, don't matter cause thats also several new paychecks

[tropic urchin]

aesthetic is just too nice with light saber bar

[tired shard]

true and switches you can always re-use

besides the few that are bound to be destroyed when i take them out

[humble surge]

True

On the other hand, same switches are now 30% cheaper lmao

[tired shard]

I think i had a 1/10 success rate at safely removing my owlabs when i got my DCF

[humble surge]

but still, no regret

[robust siren]

okay, can confirm, the 100g tikkens didnt have a weird tactile bump like the normal tikkens did for me

i love how the post card envelope was made

its so satisfying to open... also a lot easier than what people made it seem like

[tidal frigate]

100g tikkens are too light for me

[silk hound]

Gonna put tikken on the atlas

[humble surge]

Very nice, meanwhile i still can't find a way to source the PCB

[silk hound]

They should restock soon! I got mine from rabbit - they can do international

[humble surge]

I don't know what that is

[silk hound]

Rabbit0 its a Japan peripheral store

[humble surge]

They have their own site to navigate and order from normally?

[silk hound]

You have to reach out to them via email or X if you want the Rakka Atlas if you cant check out from their site

[humble surge]

Buyee works perhaps?

[silk hound]

You can use reshipper too

[humble surge]

Although those will need a product link

but if you have to ask in email, i guess that woN't work

[tired shard]

I spy with my little eye a Tamron

[humble surge]

👀

[tired shard]

Bro im actually going to crash out with customs holding them

[humble surge]

Fr?

[tired shard]

like what does that even mean

[humble surge]

they are inspecting still

[trail bane]

Gn

[tired shard]

like i guess so

but

[humble surge]

and it can take several days in a time like before christmas, cause they probably have tons of packages

[tired shard]

i've just never seen both import customs inspecetion and then HELD by customs

[humble surge]

If you had to pay taxes upfront when ordered, this should be fine without any further fees. (granted they filled the docs properly and declared)
If not, then if they decided to inspect (now evidently yes), i guess it will get taxxed.

[tired shard]

Fair, I dont even mind paying the taxes but since it's not DHL or UPS there's like no info on the state / what i should expect

i've literally never heard of this carrier 4PX

[humble surge]

Was there no tax collection on the order? i could have sworn there is on Cerakey checkout

I have, 4PX is quite allright

[tired shard]

okok thats reassuring

just hope it starts moving soon or i get more info on what i owe in terms of taxes

[humble surge]

Quite normal for right before christmas, my last package took 7 days to ship, i dread to think how long till it actually gets to me from China now (probably only after new years)

[tired shard]

I thought ordering in november would be safe but honestly now im worried it wont arrive before christmas

ehh all i can do is wait though and pray

[humble surge]

Depends, early early november is usually safe, mid to late november not so much, cause all the sales ramp up.
Basically the whole of november nowadays is Black November, meaning sales starting and going every week at different webshops.

I had my TaoBao/SuperBuy order sent on 11th, and arrived in 21 days (December 2nd), wasn't too bad.

[tired shard]

thats fair

🙏

[high sphinx]

hey guys is there big difference between rakka atlas and venom 60HE ?

[stray tiger]

Wrong discord. This is a Wooting one

[high sphinx]

ok sorry for asking a question in a keyboard modding channel where mutliple pcbs get discussed

[queen otter]

fair enough haha

[stray tiger]

You may have better luck going to the Geon discord and asking if the Wooting is better than the Rakka Atlas

[queen otter]

also i only have experience w wooting, not with venom or rakka

a little bit with keychron's first hall effect board Q1 HE, not bad but horrible to mod

[high sphinx]

yeah i have a venom 60 he but i was just wondering cause i saw the rakka atlas in here a few times, and last time in my memory when i asked here something in the channel people where actually cool and helped me

[stray tiger]

It's not that we aren't cool, but coming into the Wooting discord to ask for analysis between two products of which neither are Wooting products won't get you near as much information as if you went to the discord of the companies who make those products.

[little glen]

At the end the conclusion should be: buy 60he v2

[high sphinx]

yeah the thing is just i know lots of people here in the discord do lots of research and i am more familair with the people in this discord cause i know u guys are nice and i have chatted here before

[high sphinx]

u gonna buy it ?

cause i remember u had a frog leggera and a salvation if i remember correctly also a 80he

[tired shard]

@high sphinx u should buy the v2

[ornate quest]

If you look at his profile, he also has the role that v2 founders got

[high sphinx]

aha

[little glen]

Nah i‘m not gonna buy it

I have it

[high sphinx]

yeah looks nice man i see u stayed in the keyboard hobby

[little glen]

It‘s fun

Tho i did have a moment earlier today where i almost crashed out at a guy that kept asking how to do the simplest stuff and wouldnt think one step himself

Took like an hour to explain how to separate a pcb and a plate

[high sphinx]

damn hey but you got it done so congrats to u man for having the patience

[little glen]

Nah i think he gave up at the end

[high sphinx]

oh rip

[humble surge]

It's usually the person you trying to help that gives up before you do.
In my experience.
Quite disappointing most of the time, you only feel like you wasted time and energy for no goal.

[tropic urchin]

I mean how hard is it when you have a video to reference in their YT

[little glen]

It all started cause he installed every single switch backwards

[tropic urchin]

tuff

[high sphinx]

oh and then they wanna pop em back out huh ?

[little glen]

Then he couldnt pull them so we said to take off plate and push them out from below

[cyan lark]

ChatGPT said to install them this direction and it's never wrong

[little glen]

Then he couldnt get the module out (didnt pull hard enough)

[little glen]

That also took like half an hour cause it wasnt clear if he was using some tray mount or not (he wasnt)

[cyan lark]

How's the split been in game? You tried putting some ancillary binds on the middle/right?

[little glen]

Then he started posting some old wooting video on plate swapping from steel to pc plate asking if he can do this

We all say you dont need to swap plate

He goes "no i want to use the foam plate"

Then turns out he just wanted to know if you can take off the plate to remove the switches

After that he goes to try and take the module apart and fails cause the friction fit pad has silicone on the edges

Then there was like an hour long back and forth on whether he really unscrewed everything on the back and how you can just take it apart and the silicone doesnt change that

Very productive use of my time all around

[chilly mural]

he tried

[humble surge]

It's okay, some people you can only help as much as they let you, some not at all.
Been there many times.

[silk hound]

go watch laobaozi video too but take it with grain of salt

[high sphinx]

Ty man i will 😀

[silk hound]

youtu.be/LQ6si23VSak here

[high sphinx]

I gonna keep stay on the venom 60he for longer i think i will see how to develops and if deltakey is gonna stock them maybe i gonna get a pcb then

[long tinsel]

should i screw in standoffs for an alumaze case or does friction fit work fine?

[glacial wind]

Up to you if you want to ground it for extra safety or not

[long tinsel]

i mean how common of an occurrence is it to zap my pcb

if its common enough i might aswell

[glacial wind]

I’ve never heard of it ever happening nor it breaking a pcb. That said if it does happen it’s not covered under warranty if the case isn’t grounded

[long tinsel]

thank you 🫡

[woven sandal]

is the same thing bro but rakka 60 atlas got rgb

but rakka more expensive.if me i will prefer venom

[halcyon obsidian]

the UFO's feel so good

[glacial wind]

I’m curious to see what the overall feedback for ufos are

I’m still not sure if it’s good or bad feel wise

[halcyon obsidian]

I'm a huge fan so far

[glacial wind]

I think it’s going to be very split opinions

[halcyon obsidian]

I need to redo my stabs but here is my sound test with the ufos

[glacial wind]

Anyone who hates friction will hate the ufos

But those who min max stability will love them

[halcyon obsidian]

agreed

[glacial wind]

It reminds me a bit of the old raptor x lekker frankenswitch

Where it’s that touch too tight maybe for the stem

So you have this feeling of tightness during the press

[halcyon obsidian]

yeah they're definitely tight

[tired shard]

holy those do sound nice

[woeful ice]

hey i just bought the wooting 60he v2 module what mods do you guys use/ reccamend

[glacial wind]

Most mods are already done stock. It’s mostly just relube stabs if you find any rattling, pick some keycaps/case if you want to change those

[woeful ice]

what case would u choose?

[glacial wind]

that's personal preference. My favourite right now is the optimum one though because it's just clean

[tulip rapids]

is that the 60v2 case?

[sacred elm]

GT60

Wait no

Ah yes

[woeful ice]

is the 60he and the 60he v2 modding the same?

[tulip rapids]

wdym yung blud

[woeful ice]

like are the compatibility list the same

[fluid ravine]

yes they use the same gh60 pcb size layout for case compatibility

[woeful ice]

https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu60-redux-case?variant=41472688193675 will these work?

[glacial wind]

yes

[woeful ice]

okok tysm sorry for all the questions

[glacial wind]

you're good

[nova comet]

Are all keycaps compatible with the wooting 80HE?

[glacial wind]

not all but most. We use standard cherry compatible switches, which is probably 99% of the market of keycaps outside of a few manufacturers like some old logitech keyboard keycaps for example

[glacial wind]

It fits

The tofu cases have all been tested so far, same with holy60

[gilded seal]

is there a difference if i just use my akko switches springs for the switches in my HE ones? or would it affect the magnets

[marble glacier]

would a 60hev2 pcb fit in a neo60 core case?

[glacial wind]

USB port is in wrong spot

[marble glacier]

[tidal frigate]

Sno are you gonna re do ow60 guide for 60hev2?

[glacial wind]

there’s no need to? What do you mean

[tidal frigate]

Ekhem split spacebar

[glacial wind]

Yeah that’s not compatible

You just friction fit it in if you have split without using any ow60

[tidal frigate]

People might not know it

Because thats discord knowledge

[glacial wind]

We updated the text on ow60 page already before v2 was on sale

[tidal frigate]

Ye forgot its there

[marble glacier]

i assume none of the other wooting pcbs would fit it either then

[glacial wind]

yeah. None of them fit the middle usb

you're going to need to give more details, is it random keys, is it particular keys etc

and what exactly do you mean by keys press 2 or 3x

but only O or S

?

or does it happen to every key

yes as in does it do it to every key

or only particular keys

you need to be a lot more clear

sounds like something wasn't secured well then

i'd re-check your installation

did you install all the layers correctly when you swapped the plate?

[marble glacier]

does anyone have other 3rd party compatible case recommendations for the 60hev2? could probably throw it in a tofu

[marble glacier]

actually, better question, using split spacebar wouldn't cause issues if i throw it in a tofu, right?

[glacial wind]

which youtube video?

like a plate specific video?

okay that's probably where you went wrong if you used the old friction fit from your optimum case

you want to use none of that

all you swap is the plate

that friction fit guide is for v1 modules that need to install and use the optimum friction fit stuff

what why?

the ones we sell aren't for v2

are you using a v1?

oh you're using a v1 module i see

then sounds like yeah you got something wrong in the installation

did you install too many layers?

you picked only one right?

we give a ton of layers, but you only use one layer, so i assume you have the foam leftover if you have the friction fit pad installed

odd then. Sounds like something messed up. Did you update firmware too? Check if you rollback firmware does it do the same bug still

there was some bug with the firmware on v1 iirc, so the rollback might have fixed it for you

[sacred elm]

choose different switch

TTC has much weaker magnet than Flux

Use Lekker v1/v2 and enable 0.5mm spacer

[glacial wind]

Roll back the firmware update first

To make sure it’s not a firmware issue

[marble glacier]

how many switches does a 60hev2 need? like 70?

[glacial wind]

People buy 65-70 normally to have spares but you need a few less depending on layout

[marble glacier]

thanks

im basically about to lock in a decision so just to double check, the tofu60 redux case would fit the 60hev2 pcb just fine, right?

[glacial wind]

correct

[marble glacier]

i see, thanks a ton for answering all these questions

[ruby hill]

Using Jade ultra, what switch should I choose in beta wootility?

[glacial wind]

probably just jade pro and lowering distance should be okay

Jade ultra should be in next update though

[balmy geyser]

any recommendations stab that fit wooting 60HE+?

[rotund perch]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[balmy geyser]

tysm

[cloud crane]

https://youtu.be/Hrvwt521TG0

Interesting

[solemn hamlet]

Hey guys, I'm new to keyboard modding. I noticed the wooting v2 module does not include the foam that goes under the pcb. How can I acquire one? I intend to get tofu redux case but I don't think it comes with foam (from aliexpress)

[glacial wind]

it comes with the case you buy normally

tofu redux normally comes with case foam, although i don't know where you bought it from if it's official or what

[solemn hamlet]

I haven't bought it yet, but since I live in europe I have to buy it from aliexpress, they have an official store

Every other website I find in europe it's way more expensive

[glacial wind]

if it's official store i'd assume it includes the case foam, but you can always message them and ask

[solemn hamlet]

I think this is just my ignorance, thought you had to buy the foam separately. In the mess that is the descriptions in aliexpress they have this:

[glacial wind]

bottom foam = case foam

[solemn hamlet]

So yea they do include the foam. Could have looked a bit more before asking

[woven violet]

Hey guys, so i swapped out my geon raw HE switches for ws flux deep clacks and the sound profile... is bnetter for me, but they are a bit more silent -- anything i can do for that ?

[solemn hamlet]

• Wooting 60HE v2 Module
• Lekker Tikken switches
• Tofu redux case
• PBTFans bow keycaps

That's all I need for a full keyboard right? Probably a dumb question but don't want to over spend 😅

[glacial wind]

yeah you're good

[tropic urchin]

What plate are you using

[craggy light]

We are using the WS Flux

[humble surge]

🛸

[woven violet]

ehh, the standard wooting 80he one i think, i do use the gt-80 case aswell

[cyan lark]

If you want it to be louder you could replace the PC plate with a carbon fiber.

You could also remove the sound dampening case foam

[woven violet]

i dont want it to go anmd sound hollow t ho

[cyan lark]

Then grab a CF plate

[woven violet]

i might have too ;p

i must say to everyone telling me to get the deep clacks from ws, i am very gladf i did ;D

[tropic urchin]

That’s going to be your problem, the PC plate mutes a lot of sound

You have a few options: FR4, Alu plate, CF plate or Copper if you wanna get crazy (sounds like a metallic FR4 plate with Deep clack)

They’re also interesting on POM plate as well if you want to stick with plastic plates, but yeah I’d swap that bad boy

[woven violet]

yeah... i would but investing more in my keeb is not for right now

so ill keep it in mind for my next upgrade ;D

[neon nexus]

Am I too stupid or are the lekker tikkens hard to remove, I broke like 3 already

[craggy light]

WS Flux and CF plate is the play

We are waking up the entire neighbourhood

[tropic urchin]

What puller are you using

If you’re using the default plastic Wooting puller that’s probably why

[neon nexus]

I've used 3 different pullers

They're all equally bad

[tropic urchin]

Tuff

[neon nexus]

All that happens is I manage to pull out the plastic diffuser

[tropic urchin]

I’d recommend the Wuque studio titanium puller

[neon nexus]

It's not the puller

[tropic urchin]

One of the best investments I’ve made and pulls everything pretty easily

[neon nexus]

I can pull out any other switch easily

[glacial wind]

are you gripping top and bottom before pulling?

the video i saw of this issue happening was from someone who was just trying to one hand quickly pull out switches without making sure to grip top and bottom and hold keyboard steady with other hand then pulling

[neon nexus]

kinda yeah but it worked now

turns out I did it wrong

also god damn are the 100g springs heavy

[woven violet]

tbh i had a rough time removing my geon raws aswell, with a glorious switchpuller

[misty sapphire]

geon raws are a bitch to remove

[misty sapphire]

i have some 450g springs from china

[woven violet]

well i tried the WS when i was installing them, wasnt great either lol, i find a normall custom keeb to be removed easier

[tropic urchin]

Raws are notoriously difficult to pull

they are the extreme end of having a switch refuse to come out, but for those instances you can just remove the switch plate from PCB and poke em out

[woven violet]

o well i got the fluxes now

[tropic urchin]

when i was trying to swap my raws for jade pros, light diffusers went all over the place

[woven violet]

hahaha ive had some popping out aswell, yeah

and a few of the sides u need to squeese broke aswell XD

[misty sapphire]

this is the way

[woven violet]

anyways, for the plates, carbon fibre would be very loud, yea?

[tropic urchin]

it would be very noticeable yeah. PC is second softest plate and CF is second stiffest so it would be a very noticeable feel/sound difference

[glacial wind]

what a surprise, when full latency is measured (not just voltage test), suddenly a lot of 'faster' boards don't measure the same as their 'super fast' latency tests

[tropic urchin]

I liked CF plate and Poron gasket pad with my DCF before going to copper plate

[glacial wind]

almost like maybe some boards were optimizing for voltage testing instead of actual usage cough

funny when he also mentions the noise issue where the results get muddy on some boards because their filtering sucks

[chilly mural]

holy fuck

[glacial wind]

it's what we've been trying to explain to people for a long time, but spec hunters just blindly believe silly voltage spec tests

which is literally just measuring the potential top speed of a motor instead of measuring the top speed of the car the motor is used in

[cyan lark]

When you say voltage test, where were they testing? The usb interface?

[chilly mural]

only matches by made68 pro but that shit is $150 and no 4 years warranty + unknown of long support.

[chilly mural]

where's source

[glacial wind]

they basically connect a testing device via usb and use voltage change to measure how fast it reacts - that's how a lot of the chinese testers get speed tests for boards

iirc melgeek has a video example somewhere of how it's done

but problem is then everyone started just cheating that test and optimising parts/testing for that test alone

[glacial wind]

that's from jerror video

[cyan lark]

From the perspective of the human and the PC though that seems like it should represent end-to-end latency

Curious how that could be gamed

[glacial wind]

the problem is it cuts out board processing

so you get a readout of how fast the potential speed of the parts are minus noise filtering/processing etc

[chilly mural]

From the video he mentioned the board is very very consistent

getting dat speed

[glacial wind]

but then when you actually have to go use the device it actually does noise filtering on inputs and such and you don't end up with those same results

lemme find the rakka explanation

ah here it is:

the board makers basically all realised they could test minus all the actual processing and their boards will look great on the meters and they don't need to worry that their firmware sucks

because the tests don't show consistency of filtering nor the processing lag

[tidal frigate]

@glacial wind do you have any arguments i can give to guy that wants to know what wooting offers that not other company have? Excluding software firmware warranty and customer support

[chilly mural]

good and supportive community

[glacial wind]

? but you just named the entire keyboard

literally all you didn't name is raw hardware lol

[tidal frigate]

I tried using hardware argument

[glacial wind]

yep exactly. It's about consistency because a lot of work goes into developing noise filtering that is fast while still working effectively, but that's also some of the part that takes the most money + time and these brands don't have the dedicated software teams working on this stuff

[tidal frigate]

I was giving him charts

He thinks wooting lies to us so wooting will earn more money

[glacial wind]

large large majority of brands basically do software by saying 'hey here's an issue, fix it please' and the person who actually does their software/firmware not at their company then has to go fix it since they don't really have dedicated software people for all that stuff

[glacial wind]

i mean that's on him then. If he doesn't want to buy a wooting he doesn't have to

[tidal frigate]

I mean most Poles wont buy wooting because if keyboard costs more than 500pln thats too expensive

[glacial wind]

i don't really even know what we'd have to lie about. It's extremely clear how much effort wooting puts into every step of their keyboards

[tidal frigate]

I tried explaining it to him

[glacial wind]

that's fine, wooting isn't meant for everyone. If they're not in the place to spend that much on a keyboard then it's fine. I've been a kid too, that's totally fine if you're on a tighter budget and can't afford wooting level product

we don't aim to make a product for everyone, just the customers that fit our demographic

[cyan lark]

OK, so going off the implication in the image they were measuring from the HE sensor which is obviously a bad way to check for latency. If they did check the USB port I think it would be fine.

[glacial wind]

oh yeah i should clarify it's via the sensor

[cyan lark]

but that would be more difficult of course, not just a straightforward voltage/no voltage

[tidal frigate]

Gamer from rich country that's want "best" product

Basicly

[winged hatch]

hey that’s me

[chilly mural]

man, I feel bad for his money

[tidal frigate]

Poland is eastern wages and western prices

[glacial wind]

the irony of all the testing is testers wanted to bypass the rest of the process to get latency tests that were just the keyboard itself, but all the sketchy manu's just started cheating that test instead and ignoring all the other stuff lol

so we end up back at xlat/solenoid type testing as being more reliable than the voltage tests

[lime yew]

Maybe original wooting 60he for 100e in the outlet store? Can upgrade it overtime

[tidal frigate]

@glacial wind ok when calder calling out manufacturers video

We need lil bit drama

[chilly mural]

"Lies, all lies. (truth about keyboard latency test)"

[tidal frigate]

He has to use full siz.

[glacial wind]

i mean he has plenty of times in livestreams, but we're not going to make a video jsut specifically naming random brands, that's bad etiquette as much as it would be fun

what i would like to do is a deepdive video on understanding keyboard latency tests though, where we explain why and how things matter

kind of like if you got a tom scott type video on keyboard latency

[tidal frigate]

Maybe ask eyejoker to turn on auto translation on his videos

Because i want to watch it in English

[glacial wind]

youtubers don't control that

youtube randomly picks to do that weird auto translate stuff

[tidal frigate]

They have switch on video

Tho

You can either turn it on or off completly how i remember

IT is either in youtube studio in channel settings or on video

@glacial wind definetly wooting has it turned on

[glacial wind]

i assume he doesn't want to turn it on because of how technical his videos are

auto translate 100% messes up technical terms

[craggy light]

Does friction fit offer any advatages over tray mount

[glacial wind]

better sound isolation for overall cleaner sound

[tidal frigate]

Or maybe he doesent want English speaking community

[craggy light]

Alright, I wanna make this 60HE v2 as good as it can sound so I will switch to friction fit

I saw Wooting dropped a video

[glacial wind]

what are you using now?

[craggy light]

I wonder if I can do it with the Alumaze

[craggy light]

Board is screwed to the case

So tray ig

[glacial wind]

oh you tray mounted

i mean tray mounting is fine too, just sound might not be as clean, but it is technically more stable for flex

[craggy light]

I will do friction if that is gonna make it sound even better

Currently I have tray mount and no foams

I really like it

[glacial wind]

i wouldn't change if you like it already honestly

it's all a preference game and there's some people that will like tray mount too

like for me personally if i was only using 1 rig and never changing anything i'd tray mount + use a carbon fiber plate for max stiffness

[cyan lark]

Alumaze is compatible w/ the friction fit pad

[craggy light]

this is what im gonna do when they release the plate files and i can purchase one + ws flux

i think its gonna sound amazing

[glacial wind]

tikkens do sound really nice on cf plate

i like the cf plate tikken combo more than fr4/pc + tikken combo

[craggy light]

how do u think the combo i mentioned above play out

[glacial wind]

i mean that's fine too. I've used flux on cf in my 80he before

[tropic urchin]

Cf plate + poron foam and DCF was a favorite combo of mine for a bit

[craggy light]

im gonna do tray mount, no foam, cf plate and flux

lets see

yours sounds nice also

[robust siren]

tray mount no foam?

[craggy light]

yessir

[robust siren]

the resonation will go crazy

[craggy light]

idk i like how it sounds

[chilly mural]

got that instrument's resonance

[tropic urchin]

handlubed DCF + poron on CF made it super poppy which I liked for a while until I went to full metal geng

[tight remnant]

how to make macro for autopickup

[peak breach]

I like how my v2 builds sounds ow60, cf plate and raptors

Sounds “sharp”

[humble surge]

Looked great, i wanna try the same thing sometime, Raptors been on my scope for months, just acquiring is not very easy

[balmy nymph]

Okay been looking all day for black keycaps with dark grey accents or something like that.. I need suggestions that are in stock lol

[humble surge]

We tried that once, all i can say is GOOD LUCK

[sterile steeple]

I am getting my wooting tmmrw and was looking to lube it. I didnt know that there is a certain lube required how do I know that the one I ordered of brand still works?

[fluid ravine]

What did you order?

Or ar3 you looking for what lubes to buy?

[sterile steeple]

Just some random one of amazon, I didnt even know that wooting lube.

[balmy nymph]

Pc plate for the wooting v2? Or it comes with one?

[fluid ravine]

Typically we use Krytox 205g0
The wooting lube kit comes with it in one of their lil containers

[sterile steeple]

One of them is called GPL 205 G0
The other one GPL 105

[gentle locust]

At 4 min 43 secs what keycaps are they as they do not look like the stock double Shot backlit PBT keycaps. The legends are too white (unless they have been updated since the 60HE v1) . I have an order in for the Optimum case and 60HE V2 (split spacebar) and plan on using the double shot PBT keycaps. I have a few sets of GMK WoB but don't like the sound of them compared to the Wooting OEM profile. I think the black keycaps goes well with the dark grey metal case. Currently have the V1 with ABS case, new Lekker Tickers and FR4 plate with stock key caps and the board sounds and feels great - huge improvement over the orginal 60HE. Its a shame the ABS case is not yet ready for the V2.

[tame musk]

does any do 3d printed keycaps OR CUSTOM KEYCAPS , i do need a high quality manufacturer or connect for my brand

[little glen]

if you buy enough quantity you can get a custom set from GMK

[craggy aspen]

Are the 80HE stock stabs as good as the ones on the v2? The v2 out of the box feels better then any keyboard from brands like razer and hyperx I’ve used in the past

[robust siren]

they are the same

[craggy aspen]

Dope

I was thinking of picking up the 80he then and installing the new lekker mediums and call it a day. Maybe some different keycaps too

[craggy light]

This Powerpuff girls store still didn’t ship my switches

Scammed!?

https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690

[tulip rapids]

when did you place the order?

you'll get banned for tagging wooting staff

keep it up

[tulip rapids]

wdym the l60 switches or tikkens?

mind you the 80he is a pc plate and 60v2 is fr4 plate

if you want a fr4 plate on the 80he you can buy a customized one from torontokeyboard man

[fleet tulip]

hey guys i need help w my wooting 60he+

had it for a year plus already and its showing sings of use and age i think
how can i do maintenance on it? do i use lube on some stabs?

[austere plover]

i just bought my first wooting 60he v1 what’s the best mods i can do to make it thocky

[tulip rapids]

thocky isnt a thing on HE keyboards

[tulip rapids]

lube stabs and switches (or buy new switches)

you could buy a third party case

like tofu redux or gt60, etc

[trail bane]

Gn

[paper bison]

the more i use them the more i dislike the top out sound of the dcf

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-kitten-eepy-eepy-cat-cute-kitten-gif-2354054411599231174

Huh, I haven't found any part of the DCF sound signature to be objectionable. Pretty chill to these ears.

[tulip rapids]

have you tried owlabs

https://tenor.com/view/dog-chickens-gif-10311478

[paper bison]

yeah i switched from those to dcf

[tulip rapids]

yeah i hate owlabs

clucking chicken switches

[paper bison]

i dont mind them

something about the dcf just i dont like

idk

[tulip rapids]

then go back to owlab if you no like the dcf

[paper bison]

i want to try something different

might lube my tikkens n see if thats what im looking for

[craggy light]

whats the full name of dcf

[paper bison]

ws deep clacky flux

[craggy light]

ah i bought those lmao

i just saw people call them flux

i was confused

[paper bison]

yeah not a fan idk

gonna properly lube the tikkens n see if i prefer those

[craggy light]

is it the sound you dont like

[paper bison]

mhm

[craggy light]

i will report back when I get mines

[tulip rapids]

twenty is the only person i seen that dont like them

you have a 30 day return window if you dont like the switches

[tired shard]

@humble surge

so cooked

[paper bison]

[foggy glen]

will cherry keycaps fit with ttc?

[sacred elm]

Yes

[foggy glen]

ty!

[solar tundra]

Are there any similar Cases like Gravastar V60 Pro except Holy60(I dont like the light)

Want to make a new Build when Split 60HE arrives, gonna go for Gravastar Ufo Switches but im not sure about Case&Keycaps

Like Gravastar on the Left, Light comes way better&looks cooler compared to a Holy60

[robust siren]

not really

[rocky harbor]

is there a trick to getting lekker v2 switches out? they are tough to remove. ive already damaged the clip on a few of them. and broke the plastic switch remover

[sacred elm]

Disassemble the keyboard and pull them from the plate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnyG_a1kosg

[rocky harbor]

okay ill just do that ty

[flat cobalt]

I thought I had these installed the entire time

[robust siren]

bruh

[flat cobalt]

Idk what I have on my board right now lol

[flat cobalt]

Only goats have these

[obsidian sinew]

anyone know if the he60 v1 foam mount pad works with the he60 v2?

[fluid ravine]

Yezzir

[glacial wind]

for split to non split or non split to non split (v1 vs v2)

?

[obsidian sinew]

non split

[glacial wind]

if both non split then it might IF you're willing to mod it to fix the hole because one standoff won't be in the right place

but it probably won't fit just stock

[sacred elm]

Why do you want to use it though

[obsidian sinew]

so since i bought the fully assembled v2, i cannot change cases without the friction mount? i mean i could but ill have all that empty space inbetween the pcb and plate, right?

[obsidian sinew]

fully built v2 doesnt come with a foam plate mount

[sacred elm]

There's extra sandwich foam pad included with the v2 if you want to tray mount

[glacial wind]

he bought the assembled

so no foam pad

[sacred elm]

oh

[obsidian sinew]

so like...how do i get that foam piece if i want to change cases?..

[glacial wind]

you'd just friction fit it for most cases

[ornate quest]

Finally being split ISO paid off somehow

[obsidian sinew]

friction fit but with a stand off?

[glacial wind]

if you really want the foam pad you could reach out to support and request and maybe they might be able to help out, but generally you won't need it and friction fit works fine

[glacial wind]

it fits over the standoffs

we have extra rubber standoffs on the v2 that help make sure there's some clearance for standoffs if you friction fit over standoffs, and if you're really worried you can grab standoff covers for about $1-2

[obsidian sinew]

i have the older tofu 60 aluminum case, used it for my v1, i wanted to try the v2 inside it

[glacial wind]

generally most people will never need or want to tray mount

[glacial wind]

yes you just put your v2 right into it, then if you want to ground it you can screw in one screw in the corner

friction fit works on it

you don't have to tray mount to fit it into every old case

[obsidian sinew]

ahh okay, does it matter which screw whole?

[glacial wind]

nope, but most people pick the one on the top right

or alternative you can buy conductive sponge on amazon for like $5 to do same thing we did with optimum case grounding under the usb port

[obsidian sinew]

just glue it onto the aluminum case?

[sacred elm]

You'll need to scrape some paint off

[glacial wind]

yeah, sand or rub a little bit of paint off under the usb and glue it there basically

then it becomes just like optimum case with same grounding solution and no screw

[tulip rapids]

sno did you do a sound test with the 60v2 case?

[obsidian sinew]

so as long as its screwed into the case with at least one screw, it should be grounded? idk anything about that stuff

[glacial wind]

correct

[glacial wind]

the stock one? There's a few floating around, like the one on our 60he v2 page for the foam vs silicone is that

[tulip rapids]

yeah

[obsidian sinew]

cool, thanks for the help!

[tulip rapids]

i want to hear other switches then just tikkens though

wondering how the dcf would sound like

[glacial wind]

yeah there's zero chance i'm recording sound tests in every case like that for every switch lol

[tulip rapids]

yeah i know that

i just figured the only sound test done with that case is just tikkens

[glacial wind]

dcf sound pretty similar regardless, i don't think case matters much you can usually guesstimate how sound tone changes

like we already know plastic gives it a slightly dampened thud sound to all switches, more dense metal cases change the tone slightly deeper vs less dense etc etc

problem with recording one offs of random configs people want is that the sound would be different every single time for every single tiny thing, then people comparing would get confused and it would become a mess

9/10 people won't be checking discord or knowledgable enough to understand that x thing changed so you can't compare the sound now

so that's why i generally avoid changing any setups for sound tests from what I picked at the very first one

[tulip rapids]

thats fair

[obsidian sinew]

just noticed something as well, there is a quiet yet high pitched noise coming from the right side of my board? i can hear it if i get close enough. unplugged the board, didnt hear it, plugged it back in and i hear it again. should i reach out to support about this?

[glacial wind]

i assume you have rgb on?

[tulip rapids]

probably has it at 100%

[obsidian sinew]

yes

[glacial wind]

coil whine is fairly standard, some people hear it, some don't and it often goes away over time

[young viper]

I'm debating if I should buy the cerakey haha

[glacial wind]

you can turn rgb down a little bit and it should lessen/go away

[craggy aspen]

the tikkens, aren’t they compatible?

[obsidian sinew]

is that whine "normal" with most boards or did i just get unlucky?

[glacial wind]

normal

new computers have it quite often as well

a lot of people have it too and probably never turn rgb up enough or listen closely enough to hear it

[tulip rapids]

turn it down to 70% for the rgb setting

[craggy aspen]

How much would 80HE fr4 plate cost?

[obsidian sinew]

didnt know that, is there a chance it will go away? i mean i like using the full rgb lol

[glacial wind]

yeah it often can go away over time

it's just a side effect of most electronics running electricity through it

it's very random and just happens to some components

like my computer gpu had coil whine when i first bought it, but it went away after a month or so

[obsidian sinew]

oh okay!

[glacial wind]

if the legends didn't fade over time it would be more appealing to me honestly

[young viper]

Yeah, heard about that

[glacial wind]

there's just so many annoying little compromises you have to make with cerakeys where it feels like a hassle

[young viper]

Not sure if it's still the case with the v3 keys, but can't be certain

[glacial wind]

v3 will be same

they have to be printed on is the issue, there's no 'fix' yet

the fix is buy blank version honestly

[young viper]

Yeah, kind of sad

Especially when a 60% set costs like 70 bucks rn

[glacial wind]

i have to get a set eventually for a keycaps video though, so i'll be forced to try them eventually lol

so we'll see how long the legends end up lasting

before i only used them for short periods at meet ups

[feral grail]

I brought a set of Gateron Aluminum keycaps and used them for a while, didn't really like it.

[uneven cradle]

Guess it goes to show more expensive does not always equal better

[feral grail]

it does THOCK tho, if you're into that.
my gripe was the metal sound when you slide your finger across it.
I tried to be clever and put a thin layer of 00-20 Ecoflex under each keycap. it helped but still did not completely remove the metal sound

[young viper]

Yeah, can't say I'd pay 350 for that, I absolutely love that colors of the set though

Wish they made more sets with gold

Like the kbs onyx set, wish it wasn't sold out

[feral grail]

I have an eye kept on GMK Kintsugi in case it gets resurrected https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=123620.0

[uneven cradle]

Spacebars for split arrived alongside snack 😋

[fluid ravine]

and you didnt get me one?!?!

[little glen]

Oblotzky the goats

[night atlas]

https://pantheonkeys.com/products/squishe new akko astrolink recolors just dropped

might just cop

[chilly wagon]

do hall effect key press ratings work the same as mechanical ratings? e.g 50 million switches for mechanical

[dire delta]

Any recommendations for 50-60g bottoms out springs for the WS DC Flux?

pref 20-22mm around 55g bottom out

[glacial wind]

long heavier springs are hard to find

tx are only ones i know that did it outside of aliexpress vendors, but they've been fully out of stock for awhile

plus flux has unique spring sizing

so you're kind of totally out of luck there

[dire delta]

That's my main problem tbf

[feral grail]

I've been looking for them as well. the TX HE springs are 6.1mm diameter, which is not wide enough for flux's 6.65mm springs (I measured 6.68 with my calipers)

also Geon also has HE springs

[dire delta]

Geons HE Springs are 6.05mm in diameter tho

[feral grail]

I mean, outside of aliexpress vendors

[glacial wind]

some minor fixes to the stab cheat sheet to remind people about needing 6 2U wires for split spacebar + added geon stem spacer information for short travel switches. It's re-posted in #🪛│modding_faq message in case anyone needs to reference it/download the image

[little glen]

if you want to you could also add that ISO split only needs 5 2u stabs

[glacial wind]

eh that doesn't help though cause the single kits come with 4 only lol

so they still have to buy 2 kits

i'll mention it when I do the more pictorial version of this later though

[little glen]

helped me cause i had exactly one stab left over from before so i only had to open one box of typeplus stabs

[feral grail]

if only someone sells the stem spacers on amazon. it's pretty inconvenient waiting on other sites

[solar tundra]

So i need to buy 2 Knights V4s for my ISO Split DE?

[slow storm]

anyone know where I can get white EN keycaps with Japanese kana sub-legends that support ISO Nordic in Europe, without costing a kidney? :)

[glacial wind]

yeah if you want to fill a full board. iso split would need 5 2u and kits only come with 4 2u normally

if you buy typeplus ones you can look to see if they stock the full size keyboard kit which has enough 2u wires

[grizzled mulch]

what is the magnetic flux of lekker tikken?

[little glen]

knight uses regular wires so you could get some balanced wires from geon and they should work

typeplus uses special wires

[glacial wind]

don't think it's publicly written anywhere, but they're quite high power magnets

[grizzled mulch]

ehh alright whatever

[glacial wind]

You could maybe explain what you need it for and someone might be able to help lol

[elfin geyser]

Anyone know where you can find a stp file for cherry profile esc keycap?

Tryna to get a file I can send to a manufacturer to mill a custom keycap

[solar tundra]

Oh okay, you tested the Gravastar Ufos already right?

Whats ur opinion on those Switches?

[glacial wind]

yeah there's sound test on our database already

[solar tundra]

Yeah Sound is fire

[glacial wind]

i think they're good but people who aren't stability min/max people will hate them

but if you're a wobble maxxer person you'll love them

[solar tundra]

Why?

[glacial wind]

because you can feel the stem friction 24/7

they achieve no wobble by being extremely tight tolerances

much tighter than most manus typically go because it causes a sensation of tightness during the press

[solar tundra]

Do you need to Handlube them?

[glacial wind]

you can't

they aren't openable by regular people

[solar tundra]

You need an extra Switch Openener right

[glacial wind]

custom design doesn't fit switch openers and the way to open them is very hard

not even that

you need tools and a pry tool

there's zero easy way to open them

[solar tundra]

Do you think you need to Handlube them or they feel good?

Smooth?

[sacred elm]

He told you, there's friction

[glacial wind]

you can't handlube them is what i'm explaining

they literally do not open unless you force them apart and it's very hard

[solar tundra]

Yeah i understand that but cant you feel if they need more Lube or nah

Overall

[glacial wind]

nope

it's just tight

it's not about lube

[solar tundra]

Okay

[glacial wind]

it's about the stem literally feels like it's held by a vice

think of old raptor x lekker before breaking in when the stem was a bit too tight

it's like that, where you feel the stem being held the entire time

so top tier for physical stability but not good for smoothness

[solar tundra]

I understand

[elfin geyser]

Doesn’t sound comfortable to type on

[solar tundra]

Yeah

[sacred elm]

Isn't Flux stability similar? except slightly worse top wobble? You can actually hand lube them and they feel smooth

[solar tundra]

Prob something you need to test by yourself if you like it or nah

[sacred elm]

Whole switch seems like a gimmick

[solar tundra]

What are the best Switches for Stability&Smoothness rn?

Im still on Ur Studio Ice Ultra rn and i love them

[glacial wind]

nah ufo are more stable than flux for sure

[sacred elm]

https://link.wooting.io/soundtests

[glacial wind]

at top especially

but flux has some give which means you don't feel that vice tightness

[solar tundra]

I was on that Site already but there is only Tiers about Top/Bottom Wobble

[sacred elm]

What else do you need

[solar tundra]

Is Wobble also Smoothness?

Dont forget im stupid

[sacred elm]

If you're sensitive to friction and still want a very stable switch, get Flux

[solar tundra]

Might just get 10 of both and find out by myself if i like it or nah

[sacred elm]

They are overall very good and don't sacrifice sound and feel for stability unlike many other switches

[solar tundra]

preciate it

[glacial wind]

there is no smoothness rating because it's dependant on the person

different people like different things so i don't have any rating for it

[solar tundra]

I see

[glacial wind]

i think if I wanted to lube UFO my hands might literally bleed by the end of 70 switches

the thing is not easy to open at all and awkward since it's not designed to be opened

[hot crown]

So for lubing the stabilizers of the 60he v2, do I get 205g0? and do I need a specific brand?

[glacial wind]

very light 205g0 on the housing only, then thicker lube on the wires

lots of options for the thicker one