🔧│keyboard_modding

[humble surge]

get a bit more than you need, its a low % of crunches based of feedback so far

so you can swap any that is bothersome

[tropic urchin]

I’d say it’s kind of a wash, flux has slightly better but it’s not super noticeable before it crunches

[reef sleet]

So between Flux and Raptor

[tropic urchin]

They’re only compatible with TTC POM springs, but didn’t do anything for me

[humble surge]

i meant the switches

[tropic urchin]

If you got the budget then go for Deep clack flux on Aliexpress, if you don’t want to spend as much go for raptors and see if you get any issues

[sacred elm]

swapping didn't help me, but fair.

[tropic urchin]

If you don’t have any issues or don’t notice raptors are great

[reef sleet]

Where you guys recommend buying switches from?

[sacred elm]

Ali

[humble surge]

like i ordered 100, so i have 15 spare

Geon directly for Raptor, AliExpress Powerpuff store for Flux

[reef sleet]

I feel i'm very persceptive to small annoyances so i'm leaning towards the Flux

Anyone feeling extra helpful and want to get me a link to the Flux switches on Alie?

[humble surge]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010195147759.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010215900173.html

[tropic urchin]

To give you my experience every 1-3 days my movement keys (largely W and S) would develop scoliosis where you can feel the spring wiggle through the switch which was annoying for me. Other than that they were good switches, just envy the people who don’t notice 😭

Never happened always but happened intermittently which never made sense to me

[reef sleet]

Yes this would bother me for sure

[reef sleet]

Thank you!

[humble surge]

np

one is 90 pcs, one is 87 pcs, so you can save some cash

[tropic urchin]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

Has a few more vendors on here

[humble surge]

Powerpuff and Cherry will be the cheapest if you compare, it seems to scale the same no matter the country, the only variables are just the locally displayed prices and if a vendor goes on sale thats not like Black Friday or not uniform.

[reef sleet]

Already got my keyboard in custom case with the neoprene foam or whatever it's called in the bottom. Since i'm putting together an Ali order, anything else I should consider getting? Even aside from keyboard stuff

[tropic urchin]

New plates maybe

[distant raven]

Meh, my spacebar went from under-lubed to overlubed. Not a great place to be.

[tropic urchin]

I’d avoid keycaps tho

[distant raven]

I went through 3 iterations of tuning and now it's too stiff.

[reef sleet]

I just got the ones that came with the keyboard lol

[humble surge]

unless you wanna also try two other very affordable but value switches, i have nothing else to suggest from AliE for now.

[sacred elm]

Get different plate

[tropic urchin]

If you do want new ones I’d go to different sites (Pbtfans, keykobo etc)

[reef sleet]

I have a plate I can't remember what it is

[sacred elm]

steel

[reef sleet]

Carbon fibre

[tropic urchin]

Ah cool

CF is nice

[humble surge]

nice

[tropic urchin]

Maybe try FR4 but other than that having those two is a decent combo for different build variety

Pink flux on POM plate is also a fun build

[distant raven]

I like FR4 plate.

[trail bane]

@tawdry tree @chilly mural tuff
https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ew6h4gy

[distant raven]

found a nice white one for the white case

[chilly mural]

HMMM

$400 for the prebuilt.

I'll assume the plate is only for non split right?

[tropic urchin]

$216 rakka hm

[trail bane]

Resellers

[tropic urchin]

Don’t need it

I won’t be tsangan pilled

[trail bane]

Yeah fuck those guys

[tropic urchin]

Don’t talk about my goat like that smh

[trail bane]

I’ll be waiting for real release

[trail bane]

Can’t find any info about this

But ig you can’t even choose led pcb

[chilly mural]

it'll be nice if they sell a seperate plate

[untold wigeon]

456 for that is crazy

https://aliexpress.com/item/1005010003618093.html

What you know about machete keyboards

[lime yew]

If you are buying the prebuild v2 i would wait on buying other switches. Fairly certain many people will be super happy with the Tikkens in the 60HE v2.

[untold wigeon]

the wobble and pbt stock keycaps on the 60he v1 suck hard

[tawdry tree]

copper should be less stiff than alu I think. expecting it to sound like plastic tbh

[tawdry tree]

fucking profiters

[tropic urchin]

Jump scare

Plastic tho really?

I was expecting a weird FR4

[tawdry tree]

kinda yeah I think

cause it’s a bit heavy too

like steel

but soft

[tropic urchin]

I guess also which kinda plastic

For the sound/feel atleast

[tawdry tree]

a softer plastic

[tropic urchin]

Wait

[robust siren]

oh yeah i gotta take pics for sno

[tawdry tree]

we’ll see I guees

[robust siren]

[tropic urchin]

Is this hard PP plate territory

If so that could be cool

[tawdry tree]

maybe?

[tropic urchin]

This will be a weird build then

[tawdry tree]

I’ll have PP ABS PC and UPE to compare to

[tropic urchin]

Mildly intrigued with equal parts disappointed in my plastic metal soft drink plate

[tawdry tree]

I don’t know, just my expectation of copper. never had a build with it before

[tropic urchin]

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/wise-gif-5472200

[tropic urchin]

My plate is going to look like an ancient relic after a few days since I didn’t get it oxidated proof coating bc I didn’t feel like making a Shopify acct

Also wanted the aliexpress discount

[ionic breach]

starts throwing flashbangs

[tropic urchin]

Varedis ahh keyboard ✅

[stoic ocean]

Can look good with this ?

[ionic breach]

looks like it will fit

y?

[tropic urchin]

Probably

[chilly mural]

a man gotta eat

[tropic urchin]

Won’t see the back half of it so

[chilly mural]

hmm, it looks okay but it kinda clashed too much with each other

[tropic urchin]

Nonsense

It’s prime

[tawdry tree]

it’s gonna look good (I hope). I got mine for the salv copper slag, still got no fucking keycaps for it tho

[tropic urchin]

The busy-ness of it is what makes it great

[chilly mural]

I can't see that.

[tropic urchin]

It’s like a less flash bangy handarbeit

[tawdry tree]

a fat man can do without a meal once in a while

[tropic urchin]

😭😭😭😭

[stoic ocean]

Yes, the blue of the case is a different shade of blue, but there are three different shades of blue on the keycaps, and I think yellow works.

[tropic urchin]

Mine is going to look like an ancient lightsaber skin from Jedi survivor 🔥

[distant raven]

fixed stabilizers, that was sure fun, but now they're perfect...

What are the reasons folks change the stabilizers on wooting stuff? 80HE seemed to come with really nice screw-ins.

[chilly mural]

no, I have more problem with the alphas. It really looks off with the sudden changes of color

[tropic urchin]

Courtesy of @trail bane

[stoic ocean]

@chilly mural Afterwards I can always buy them and use them on another keyboard, and I'll find others for my case if I don't find this one great in the end.

[tawdry tree]

sexy

[stoic ocean]

and I'll find something that goes better with this one

[trail bane]

Fr

[tropic urchin]

Don’t let the haters win king

[tawdry tree]

I honestly don’t think it’d look bad with black and gold either (even though it’s not exactly the same color)

[tropic urchin]

I don’t think it’ll be super noticeable

[stoic ocean]

King ?? You remind me the black guy with weird sound on tiktok

[tropic urchin]

Alright I take it back

[tawdry tree]

oh really? you never look between your keycaps?

[trail bane]

You always can wash it in vinegar + soda typeshi

[tawdry tree]

[tawdry tree]

that actually works?

to get the shine back/oxidation layer off

[stoic ocean]

He's dead now i know him since 2022 "are you diggin right there"

[tropic urchin]

I do but I don’t notice it unless it’s very light

Or if I see a screw head

[trail bane]

After/before(old photo)

[stoic ocean]

We agre a plate thick like this can never work with magnetic switches

Is 4mm

[tawdry tree]

you know, I think I’ll keep copper slag with copper plate without keycaps on display

not much else I can do atp

[chilly mural]

😭 😭 😭 😭

[ionic breach]

why wouldnt it

[tropic urchin]

Nah pop off, you right

[tawdry tree]

It can (it should be 5mm thick though).

[trail bane]

Foamless stuff but very platefull

[ionic breach]

its just the plate + foam/silicon but one piece no?

[distant raven]

"Barkeeper's Friend" is the best copper polish you'll find.

[tawdry tree]

There are some chinese boards with a plate like that, it’s can be better actually as it’s as stiff as can get.

[chilly mural]

Hmm, I kinda wanna try thick plate now

[stoic ocean]

I was thinking the switches will be too high up, so the sensors won't detect the magnets properly

[distant raven]

and it looks a bit on the thick side

[ionic breach]

oh its that way up

yea maybe not

[tawdry tree]

You wouldn’t use foam

[chilly mural]

should emulate the feel of an arcade controller since that too is kinda thick plate and no foam/silicone on the button.

[distant raven]

maybe not

[tawdry tree]

It works

[stoic ocean]

I see 🫡

[tawdry tree]

It’s upside down in that pic by the way

[distant raven]

Try "Barkeeper's Friend" if you want that copper to be as bright as possible. (It won't last long before it oxidizes again, but it will at least discolor evenly.)

[trail bane]

Nah, I like it. And I’m kinda lazy to do something

[distant raven]

yeah not saying you have to, just saying if you were trying to get it bright and shiny without scratches, that product works well

[paper bison]

what iem cable is that

[tropic urchin]

Nice eye

Old pic when I was using astrals

[chilly mural]

mmm, astrals

[robust siren]

friction fit pad, top casing on the gt60 @glacial wind

i forgot to add the video to that ping

[paper bison]

i knew it

[robust siren]

@tropic urchin no case foam actually sounds kinda ok ( @glacial wind technically if you make sure all the gaskets are in full contact and none are wonky it probably wont fall out but i wouldnt trust it flipping over)

[tropic urchin]

If you do tape mod I’ve found you can have it act as something similar

[robust siren]

yeah i got 3 layers on

[tropic urchin]

I’ve found now if you do tape mod it kinda sounds almost bloated

Maybe it’s due to double poron stack

[glacial wind]

interesting that it still snaps in there

[sacred elm]

He's not getting it anymore I think

[glacial wind]

i'll get it next month maybe, since i need plates to be available for it anyway before i can do proper testing

[robust siren]

theres not a lot if room in the case tbh

like 1mm case foam almost misaligns the usbc port

[robust siren]

that video wasnt with the friction fit pad, just using the silicone/poron sandwich pad

[robust siren]

💀

you can still plug it in but like…

its a bit high

but hey since it sounds okay without foam.. ill just remove the foam now

[tropic urchin]

Polyfill ☝️🤓

[glacial wind]

ah that makes more sense

[robust siren]

holy fuck that scared me 💀

just pulling the spacebar pulls out the whole module

so you dont even need to disassemble the case to take it out

[robust siren]

yeah, as its already tight enough if you dont get the right angle while putting it in, i double the extra thickness from the friction fit pad is gonna help as it already kind of goes over the corners of where the screws are

[little glen]

what are you cooking rn

[humble surge]

Soup

[ionic breach]

soup

liquid with ingredients

[sweet oak]

Me when no crunch

[robust siren]

new x-ray like keycap colorway
https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-atomic-purple-r2

[tulip rapids]

deskhero becoming a L

they raised their shipping prices because of canada post strike

just to be like $5 cad iirc now its almost $20

just for a shipment just to get delayed

[tulip rapids]

its not black

[robust siren]

maybe if you buy enough sets theyll come out with more colors

[oak jewel]

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-retro-dark-lights-r2

[tulip rapids]

how about you buy it for me nephew

go make those shoes

🔥

[tulip rapids]

@uneven cradle sorry for ping but iirc you wanted to see something like this

[oak jewel]

They're not exaaaactly black, grey tint

But close enough

[uneven cradle]

Yeah I remember this set, not sure i would buy a set with Mac icons though

[tulip rapids]

maybe one day

[distant raven]

Been playing around.

Not sure what looks better.

Or just plain white.

(ignore annoying work chiclet disaster keyboard)

[tame garnet]

Just ordered the Tofu60 redux for my 60HE v2

[tropic urchin]

I think the different colors would be cooler on a GMK set

But for shine thru all single colors look better imo

[distant raven]

yeah, if I use the RGB (which admittedly, I often don't) the all white looks fantastic

I'm indecisive.

There's a symmetry to the white mouse on black mat and black keys on white case but I may just stick with all white.

[tropic urchin]

I think I’m still team full white keyboard but the contrast looks interesting

Kinda cool

[distant raven]

yeah I am kinda leaning toward all white as well but the contrast is interesting.

I'm just indecisive. It's very subjective so other's opinions are going to vary. But the mouse does have some black on white going for it.

[tropic urchin]

If you did rainbow RGB with the black alphas and white mod keys I think it would look better than all black

Or vice versa

To match the black pad and white mouse

Kinda wanna see that

[tulip rapids]

i prefer all white tbh

[distant raven]

so alphas only in black?

[tropic urchin]

Yeah so you could do black alpha keys and then white side modifiers or opposite and I think it would go well with your inverse color theme

With rainbow RGB

Or whatever the RGB is used in the black keycap pic

[distant raven]

yeah lemme play with that.

Strictly alphas though, no punctuation at all.

[distant raven]

that's just the default blue/green/purple scroll

[tropic urchin]

Ah okay

[trail bane]

Is there any good TKL PCB’s besides Venom TKL?

[calm pulsar]

bakka 80, but it’s a prebuilt

and not sure if it’s good

[tropic urchin]

Jumpscare

We don’t do prebuilts here

[calm pulsar]

doing builds is old too
cloud based keyboard

[distant raven]

there

happened to catch it on a weird frame of all blue somehow

[tropic urchin]

Until AWS-US-EAST1 goes offline

[tropic urchin]

Try this

[distant raven]

sure, that's pretty similar to what I had before, can do

[tropic urchin]

It is, with the full picture I think it would go better than with just the keyboard alone

[distant raven]

I'm not sold on F5-F8 being black.

I wonder if making those 4 white but making arrow keys black would be cooler.

[trail bane]

Black mods meta

[distant raven]

This is kind of interesting.

Or maybe the inverse of this, as said above, black mods.

[tropic urchin]

Yeah that would be better instead of being a bad mustache

[trail bane]

Something like that(blue= black, black=white)

[distant raven]

Inverted previous, then going to do what lander also suggested to see it.

[tropic urchin]

I like white mod keys with black alphas since it looks more ✨vibrant✨

[cyan lark]

I prefer white alphas so the pop is in the center. But personally I'd prefer all white or all black keys over either mix.

[ocean escarp]

Guys, why is only this one blue?

[distant raven]

Photobombed by clipped cats

The alternating function keys copied from that previous image is a choice....

[distant raven]

tried it out, it's interesting

[verbal island]

are there people here that have compared the gateron jade vs jade pro's in their wooting keebs? I'm unsure which ones to get as an upgrade, I'm currently still on the light lekker v1's

[paper bison]

There are much better switches than the jades to get now, like the lekker tikkens

[tidal frigate]

Your keyboard led died.

[verbal island]

hmmm from all the wooting sound test video's I've seen so far the jades had the sound that fit my preference most, what do the newer lekker's do differently?

[ocean escarp]

Bro arrived yesterday...

[sacred elm]

https://link.wooting.io/soundtests

[ocean escarp]

@sacred elm can you help me?

[sacred elm]

#1019755933959733258

[tropic urchin]

Tikkens or Deep clack Flux if you want the best stability Jade esque switch

[distant raven]

This is my life when trying to swap caps....

[verbal island]

hm I see, I'm unsure on what exactly I want. I while ago I built a split with Gateron Quinns thats sounds great. And on my wooting I currently enjoy that the keys are soooo light, being the L45 v1 they start at 30g and bottom out at 45g. Thats why I'm a bit unsure about the tikken

[ocean escarp]

Ty, if they can't fix it, can I request another module as a replacement?

[tropic urchin]

I naturally like 45g springs as well, tikkens springs didn’t feel crazy heavy for me

[sacred elm]

Contact them and find out

[barren skiff]

Deppends did u buy it over 4 years ago

[verbal island]

that at least sounds promising, then the sound is the real deciding factor, if you want I can try to take a sample of my split keeb as reference

[tropic urchin]

But if you want the best upgrade I’d say go for Deep clack flux if you want a similar sound as Jade switches but with best stability for the sound profile, or go for TTC POM (red and purple) they will have 45g long spring but will sound worse

[sacred elm]

They have 80HE, it wasn't released 4 years ago mate

[tropic urchin]

TTC POM/ DC Flux will have same overall stability @verbal island

[barren skiff]

I didint read the first message mate XD

[tropic urchin]

@sacred elm drop the library sound test link

[sacred elm]

I did

[tropic urchin]

W Shafie

[sacred elm]

Dimensions are on the product page

[ocean escarp]

Do the LEDs start from the module?

[sacred elm]

LEDs are mounted on the PCB

[verbal island]

do we know if tikken light or sth around those lines will also release? Given that these are called tikken medium

[sacred elm]

I don't know inner dimensions

[ocean escarp]

Which one should I select? And where can I find the serial number?

[sacred elm]

Module

[sacred elm]

If the demand is high, they'll think about it. Currently there are no plans.

If you like Jade sound profile, you'll love DC Fluxes

They sound deeper than Jades and have significantly less stem wobble

[verbal island]

that honestly sounds nice. I've tested quite a few non HE switches up to this point, enjoying some marbly, some thockier and even some higher pitched ones than I expected

are the DC Fluxes the same as the WS Flux? or is the naming a bit scuffed?

[distant raven]

I have the Wooting x TTC KOM POM with the heavier spring and I really like them.

They have to be lubed though

[sacred elm]

There are two versions, pink and creamy. Creamy Flux sounds so loud, pink is deeper and softer sounding.

You want Flux "Deep Clacky"

[distant raven]

I swear, there's a Deep Clack Flux cult here.

It makes me curious if I'd like them.

[verbal island]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T0Z0OLbEMI found this comparison

[rotund perch]

They seem nice but I like the full 4mm travel of the tikkens + DC fluxes are too expensive for me

[verbal island]

in this I almost find the normal flux more appealing

[sacred elm]

I have both and prefer pink Flux

[tropic urchin]

They have same stability but don’t have the Jade sound profile tho

[distant raven]

I swear, it's one and then the other.

The third one though, she's behaving, for meow...

Maybe now I can finish swapping caps.

Cat has left the keyboard.

[cyan lark]

If you turn down the LEDs it might discourage her - those things significantly impact how much power the things draws and therefore how warm and cozy it is ❤️‍🔥

[distant raven]

also never you mind that F4 key being 90 degrees off

[sacred elm]

irl they sound deeper, phone makes them sound higher pitched

GH - Deep Clacky
JK - Normal

[autumn temple]

Hey does anyone happen to know what the bottom out force for the gateron jades are? Cause I searched it up online up the answer didnt make any sense to me it was a weird number?

[sacred elm]

50

[autumn temple]

Really 50g?

[sacred elm]

Yes

[autumn temple]

Why do the Tikkens compared to the jades feel so much heavier?

cause of the initial force

[sacred elm]

Initial force is 12g heavier than Jade

Also long spring

[autumn temple]

Ahhhhh

[distant raven]

Details no one will see, but I can feel:

[autumn temple]

What does the longer spring mean exactly?

If I want my Tikkens to feel more like the jades should I spring swap the jade springs into the Tikkens or should I just buy a wooting spring pack which is pretty cheap the L45 version?

[tropic urchin]

typically faster rebound speed

[verbal island]

tysm! 😄 honestly a hard choice

[distant raven]

Lekker switches have a full 4.0 mm of travel and have longer springs to account for that.
Other switches are 3.4mm nominal or close to that, and will have shorter ttravel. Some are compatible with the wooting springpacks, and some use a shorter spring and are not.

[cyan lark]

Two springs with the same bottom-out force, but different lengths, will mean the longer one has a higher initial force

[rotund perch]

Like after comparing with multiple HE switches I just love the full travel the most, don't know why

[distant raven]

not necessarily a higher initial force, that's determined by the spring constant not the length

total WORK done to depress a longer spring of same force is true though

Force not equal Work

[autumn temple]

So, If I want my Tikkens to feel more like the jades should I spring swap the jade springs into the Tikkens or should I just buy a wooting spring pack which is pretty cheap the L45's ?

[distant raven]

... that's a different constraint if you're comparing a short spring and a long spring in an uncompressed state and pre-compressed state 😛

(respectively)

[cyan lark]

The travel distance is the same, so spring length is directly proportional to the amount of compression in the un-pressed state

[distant raven]

lekker switches for example, that have the full 4.0 mm of travel, won't be pre-compressed like that

[rotund perch]

WS Flux does have like .1mm more travel than owlabs but I really won't feel that most likely lmao

[distant raven]

that graph only applies when saying something like, 3.4mm (designed travel) spring and 4.0mm (designed travel) spring, both in a 3.4mm travel application

It isn't valid if you're comparing a 3.4mm (desitned travel) spring in a 3.4mm travel application to a 4.0mm (designed travel) spring in a 4.0mm travel application

[cyan lark]

You're right, tikken and jades have different travel distance (~0.5mm) so that would have to be taken into account

but I assume the spring length delta is far greater than that

[distant raven]

yeah that graph is valid for all short distance switches NOT valid for lekker switches

yeah ALL springs are pre-compressed to some degree

but wooting gives you the spring force at top and bottom for the ones that they sell

[cyan lark]

Man, this topic really makes my hairs stand on end for when that teenager berated me about physics 101 stuff from 20y ago 😨

[distant raven]

well ... it is physics

[autumn temple]

So whats the conclusion lol I just want to know if I can spring swap?

I dont care for the rest of that jargon

[cyan lark]

More just that some folks on the internet are a little to quick too jump down people's throats 🙂

[cyan lark]

Spring swap also depends on the diameter, not sure if the jades/tikkens are compatible

[distant raven]

Wooting x TTC KOM POM 40 cN start, 55 cN end
KOM RGB same as TTC KOM POM
Geonworks RAW L50 36 cN start, 50 cN end
Gateron Jade ... 30 +/- 7 gf (lol)
Lekker Tikken 42cn Start 54 cN end (See how it's basically identical to KOM POM despite being longer travel?)

[cyan lark]

not saying they're not, I just don't know

[distant raven]

L45 V2 are 30/45, L60 V2 are 40/60

[autumn temple]

Okay.
So if I want lighter Tikkens then I should just spring swap with the wooting spring pack then I know that those are compatible with the switch because I asked Wooting and they said they are.

[distant raven]

sounds like you want to lighten lekker tikkens using wooting light spring pack

[autumn temple]

Gotcha

[distant raven]

yes all wooting springs are compatible with tikkens

[autumn temple]

That was all I was looking for

[cyan lark]

Yeah tikkens are compatible w/ the lekker springs for sure.

[distant raven]

yup sorry, lost your original question when the nerding came out

[autumn temple]

No worries lol as long as it was brought back down to earth

[distant raven]

<-----nerd

[lusty river]

do the mmd c1 switches have a closed bottom? thanks!

[sacred elm]

They do

[distant raven]

Wooting's Tikken springs are 22 mm long btw.

[autumn temple]

Yeah im thinking of doing that then spring swapping them to L45's I think that will feel comparable at that point to the jades then correct in terms of weight/force it should feel similar if im not mistaken, correct? @distant raven

[distant raven]

the gateron jades are light, at 30 +/- 7 gf which is basically 23-37 cN

[young viper]

I thought they didn't have a closed bottom? Hard to see when they're clear lol

[sacred elm]

Tikken springs yes, springs sold on Wooting store are 15mm

[distant raven]

oh cool thanks

[distant raven]

fixed above

[autumn temple]

Didnt @sacred elm Just say that the bottom out on the jades were 50g im confused?

[cyan lark]

The +/- is margin of error, not initial/bottom out

[lusty river]

thank you!!

[cyan lark]

Jades are initial 30g, dunno what they bottom at - I think around 45g

[distant raven]

I'm going off of what wooting published on their website.

[lusty river]

what does "closed bottom" exactly mean? do they feel more like traditional switches then?

[cyan lark]

Yes, it says "Initial force 30+/- 7"

[distant raven]

that's a closed bottom on the right

[distant raven]

which is 23-37

So ending force should be SOMEWHERE around 35-50 cN

[young viper]

The idea is a better sound and resistance to dust/other elements messing with the internals

[cyan lark]

Ah yes, I thought you were saying 23-37 was the range 😭

[distant raven]

heck no

saying Gateron doesn't have the data to be sure

[cyan lark]

This stuff should be so straightforward! I don't get why they don't just post up the initial and bottom out.

[distant raven]

(or wooting doesn't)

[autumn temple]

Ok so if the Jades are 30 - 50 APPROX then doesnt that mean the spring swap pack of 30-45 should be right for me to swap to ?

[distant raven]

yes

[sacred elm]

Yes, bottom out force of Jades are 50, initial is 30

[autumn temple]

Ok ok got it

[sacred elm]

You can use Jade springs in your Tikkens if you want

[autumn temple]

Cant really think of any other pack to swap to cause that is the closest range and should be fine with me going from 42-53 g in Tikkens

[sacred elm]

Same diameter

[lusty river]

ah I I see thanks! the stock wooting 60he (v1) switches are open bottom ones right?

[autumn temple]

I can definitely experiment with it once I get a switch opener and try it out

[cyan lark]

Shafie delivers as usual

[distant raven]

that's the v1 lekker 60

[lusty river]

ahhh, now the difference is clear

thank you :))

[distant raven]

and the bottom

tikkens are closed bottom

[prisma cloak]

Does Wooting plans to have aluminium case for the 60HE v2 ISO SPLIT spacebar variant?

[cyan lark]

Made is SFW

[uneven cradle]

Not for the preassembled version only available via the module

[distant raven]

youi can do that if you order as a separate items not preassembled and then assemble yourself

is really easy to assemble

[prisma cloak]

@uneven cradle so technicall I can lego it together myself?

[distant raven]

definitely

[sacred elm]

Yes, takes like 5 minutes

No screws required

[prisma cloak]

Thanks

[ornate quest]

Mate, that’s so much less SFW now, dunno how you achieved that

[cyan lark]

Oh right I forgot that v2 doesn't even require a screwdriver 🙂

Like keyboard fingerpainting

[uneven cradle]

Yeah they'll be some video guides that go through the process of building but it's very easy even easier than v1

[distant raven]

easier than 80HE too

[ornate quest]

Worst part will be dropping in the keycaps correct and that’s not even new with the v2, as ISO always was missing those preassembled

[distant raven]

also... United Splitbar Front!

We're gaining!

[cyan lark]

Together split we are stronger

[distant raven]

when an image makes you hear

SEGA!

Straight back to the 1980s

[cyan lark]

My father used to antagonize us when we had long sessions, saying "mind-rot" to the same tune

[young viper]

I'd love to buy a split later down the line, but for now im way too used to regular😭

[distant raven]

If they make an 80HE board with split space, I will buy.

[cyan lark]

If it turns out I like the split, then I second ^

[distant raven]

Sadly, that's not a mod anyone's going to be able to do.

There's mods, and then there's engineering an entirely new PCB and programming the firmware... lol

[trail bane]

Gn

[cyan lark]

lander eepy

[uneven cradle]

Well if it's popular enough they might

[distant raven]

I really hope that post-launch adoption is even higher.

I think that once folks see the benefit to having another left hand WASD accessible button available (or two for folks with longer thumbs) and how that eliminates 1-2 mouse binds, that they'll come onboard.

[cyan lark]

Honestly, probably the biggest driver would be if some gaming pro or content creator adopts it

[distant raven]

yup

Just by the numbers of 21% right now, there's almost a guarantee that a few notable pros or actually influential streamers adopt it.

How could would that be, if it becomes so popular that a split spacebar becomes the norm across all gaming keyboards and potentially even into standard keyboards?

[cyan lark]

I'm not gonna ride too hard for it until I try it. I'm mostly just hyping for fun at this point 🙂

[uneven cradle]

Usually there's a massive spike in the discord once the big content creators make videos so that'll be fun

[distant raven]

heh

waiting for the next influx of "HE is ded" heads.

[cyan lark]

If it is useful for folks of course it would be great to see it spread

[cyan lark]

I cannot stress this enough: make sure Optimum gets his this time (on time) 😉

Really surprised me when the 80 got great reviews across the board but people were still unconvinced b/c he didn't bless it

[uneven cradle]

I'm sure they'll make sure it makes it this time

[cyan lark]

How much is Mark's hand-delivery service again? 😉

[distant raven]

meanwhile he collaborates on 60s

[tawdry tree]

MJ flashbacks 😭😭😭. he was right tho (prob made it even worse).

[distant raven]

Wasn't it $200k ?

[cyan lark]

I thought it was only 150k

[uneven cradle]

It is only 150k

[distant raven]

lol

[silk hound]

Mj lore I miss mj

[cyan lark]

He's consistent, which makes the price seem somehow even more reasonable

[tawdry tree]

Valid for Lekkers too (or invalid for all of them), the graph seems to show only 8 and 14mm springs, and most magnetic switches come with 15mm (or longer) springs stock.

[distant raven]

There we go.

[cyan lark]

I'd probably go for the $25k upcharge for a Dali pawprint - in for a penny in for a cat pawprint

[distant raven]

right?

if I ever find bitcoins in a UK landfill, maybe I'll do that just for funsies

[cyan lark]

If I found BTC in a landfill it would be one of the last times I interact with tech in my life 🌴

[tropic urchin]

gl deciphering that coldwallet gramps

[distant raven]

straight to the jugular

[cyan lark]

I’m gonna be the one maintaining all this computer infrastructure when your gen is still pawing at their iPads in a few decades

[tropic urchin]

We str8 bidness in the marbly clack church GenG

[tropic urchin]

My gen isn’t iPads, that’s MJ try again

[distant raven]

tide pod challenges and window licking too?

[cyan lark]

Never even heard of window licking outside of that Aphex Twin song

[distant raven]

dumbass dogs do it

[cyan lark]

Careful if his name is typed a third time tonight some say he’ll get unbanned

[distant raven]

and so it's just a euphemism for folks who have similar habits/intellect

[cyan lark]

Aha, thanks

[distant raven]

I'm pleased that I never met this MJ fellow. It seems to take a fair bit to get any sort of trouble here.

[cyan lark]

You have to be pretty misbehaved and maladjusted, yes

[trail bane]

XD, what a beautiful timing

[distant raven]

...

[tropic urchin]

Alright, you sold me. MJ

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/checked-out-gif-8139111214977286037

[distant raven]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-window-licker-dogs-tongue-cute-gif-11458388

There's your window licker.

[cyan lark]

Honestly looks kinda fun

[tawdry tree]

rent freeeeeee!! @ mods

that’s aura ngl

[tropic urchin]

Truly

We didn’t know how good we had it

[tawdry tree]

only after the times were over 🥲

[little glen]

i gotta say

there are still a few characters around

like mister chatgpt told me we need to put a generator on the keyboard

[distant raven]

...

[tawdry tree]

MJ, MB, JKBX

[distant raven]

What about the Polish guy who's always going on about random things?

[cyan lark]

Markov rage bot

[distant raven]

Jakubix

(if that's who you meant by JKBX)

[tawdry tree]

the polish patriot himself, ofc

[distant raven]

less of a polish patriot and more of a german hater LOL

[cyan lark]

He hates Americans as well

[little glen]

bucket

[tawdry tree]

everyone and everything except for poland

and g502

[distant raven]

That's three fourths of europe though.

[tawdry tree]

long distance europe, doesn’t count

[cyan lark]

We’re working on those numbers. Those are rookie numbers.

Too much lore

[tropic urchin]

Average femboy reaction

[trail bane]

Shoutout to vomit bowl

[distant raven]

gave up on keycaps and went back to white on white. It's just so clean.

[paper bison]

yeah mixing sets 99% of the time looks like you don'thave enough keycaps in one set so had to scrape together a set

[distant raven]

I mean, I had some interesting combos.

there's pictures in here of them

[paper bison]

i saw em, all looked messy imo

[distant raven]

and yeah

all looked interesting, but messy

White just looks nice.

[fallen crag]

OK this chat got me curious

What did the person everyone keeps referring to do lol

Let me in on the in-joke 👀

[distant raven]

NFC

I'm too new.

[fallen crag]

Fair enough

[distant raven]

I did recognize JKBX though.

[fallen crag]

I mainly came here to ask, are the WS fluxes well lubed on arrival?

Or would it be worthwhile to lube them myself 🤔

[sacred elm]

Decently lubed

[fallen crag]

So probably minimal returns to worry about it

I'm assuming?

[sacred elm]

It sounds cleaner after hand lube imo

[tropic urchin]

I’d run stock lube until you feel like it could use some, I did mine after a week or two and it eliminates some chatter that can occur when it runs drier

[sacred elm]

but it's not necessary

[tropic urchin]

It’s not TTC POM levels of dry

Stem is decently lubed but spring could use some work

[fallen crag]

I've never really messed with lubing switches myself, so, if I do choose to lube them it is a pretty simple process, right?

[tropic urchin]

Yeah just takes time

[fallen crag]

Also if I'm going to lube them I'd rather do it before I install them in the first place

Just seems like extra work to put them in, wait a week, then take them out

[tropic urchin]

You’ll need a kailh switch opener and 205g

[distant raven]

man the TTC KOM POM were the Gobi Desert of plastic

[tropic urchin]

The week timeframe was just a placeholder

[fallen crag]

UH.... I have the maintenance kits that were able to be ordered from wooting with my keyboard, does that cover it?

[tropic urchin]

Opener no but maybe lube it does

[fallen crag]

I got lube, yea

[distant raven]

I overlubed a few switches before I figured out exactly what worked well.

Then I went really careful on my spacebar stabilizer because it was clacky. And I worked so slowly and incrementally, and then poof, over the line and overlubed. LOL

[fallen crag]

That's my main concern

[distant raven]

Such a learning experience.

[fallen crag]

That I'll over lube them

[distant raven]

Q-tips correct overlube.

so don't stress

[fallen crag]

Bet, that's good

[tropic urchin]

It’s not the end of the world

[distant raven]

yeah its' really not

just a learnign curve is all

Now I have it down.

[fallen crag]

Oh nah, I'm just a worrysome person haha

[tropic urchin]

It is very annoying to do but

[tropic urchin]

Live life and be free knowing deep clack flux shall open the path of enlightenment

[distant raven]

I actually really appreciated assembling my HE80, modding the plate, doing switch lube, doing stabilizer lube, etc. I feel like I really learned a lot about the assembly of these things.

[fallen crag]

🙏

[distant raven]

friggin cultist

[tropic urchin]

It might be a cult

But it’s a cult worth joining

[distant raven]

you need to rename to Varedis | Deepclack Fluxcult

[tropic urchin]

No

[fallen crag]

I'm interested in switching out stablizers, but I have no idea where to even start, and I'd rather stick with my new switches and keycaps THEN look into further mods once I've got them installed

[tropic urchin]

I’m the pope of the marbly clack church movement @distant raven

[distant raven]

the stabs on the 80HE are fantastic. I just needed to do a LITTLE bit of extra molykote

[tropic urchin]

Knight v2- v4 stabs are good

[fallen crag]

Oh, in that case if I'm not replacing anything maybe I'll just tuch that up while I'm doing the switch lubing and replacing the keycaps

[distant raven]

not sure what board you'r eon crux

[fallen crag]

80 HE

[robust siren]

as someone who moved from the holy church of geon to the divine church of deep clacky fluxes i can say it is very accepting of new memebers

[distant raven]

ok, 80HE definitely benefited from some molykote tuning especially the spacebar

[tropic urchin]

A fellow loyal cardinal amen

[distant raven]

backspace and shift and enter needed very little

but spacebar needed a fair bit of work

[fallen crag]

I hope that's what I've got in the wooting lube kit

Because I haven't even opened it

😔

🤞

[distant raven]

you'll have a jar with a white cap for switches and a jar with a silver cap for stabs

[fallen crag]

Aye aye capn

I don't think I want to mod the actual keyboard body for sound much tbh

I feel that it's pretty aight in that department from what I've seen

[distant raven]

well my spacebar was super clacky and clattery

[tropic urchin]

Really depends on what you want

[distant raven]

I definitely had to get it unclattery

[tropic urchin]

Plate dynamics can change a lot for sound/feel

So I wouldn’t write it off completely

[distant raven]

this was on the stock polycarbonate plate and way worse on the FR4 plate

[fallen crag]

I like the body, I'm a little inexperienced with keyboards, but, even as a HE keyboard this is by far my best sounding one I've ever used

[tropic urchin]

But if you don’t care then it’s up to you how much you wanna do

[fallen crag]

Even just stock

[distant raven]

MY 80HE benefited from spacebar stabilizer lubricating even on stock plate. Yours may not need it.

[tropic urchin]

I’d say leave everything stock and at some point try a new plate if you’re feeling up for it would be my rec

[distant raven]

FR4 made it mandatory to me hehe

FR4 is super stable and stiff. I really appreciate it.

[tropic urchin]

For deep clack flux, POM, FR4 and CF plates were really nice

[distant raven]

I can attest to that on the KOM POM switch + FR4 plate + PBT caps being nice

[tropic urchin]

Pls call it POM 🥀

[distant raven]

mine is the Wooting x TTC KOM POM though.

[tropic urchin]

It’s the same thing

But just extra words

Wooting POM is all it is

[distant raven]

Do my extra letters hurt you?

KOM POM

[tropic urchin]

Maybe

It’s just so much extra work typing that shit all out 😭

[distant raven]

yeah but it's my work

KOM POM isn't wrong

[tropic urchin]

It’s unnecessary, back when POM was popular ppl didn’t call it TTC KOM POM

[distant raven]

Also blame wooting. They indoctrinated me.

[tropic urchin]

There’s only 1 TTC POM

KOM POM is switch name gore

[distant raven]

blame TTC

[tropic urchin]

I will

[robust siren]

i didnt even say anything

[tropic urchin]

Look up titlegore yunc

[distant raven]

Most of the switch names are silly.

Lekker Tikken I like though, because it has meaning.

The rest, all varying degrees of silly.

we should start calling deep clack flux "Clux"

because less typing

[tropic urchin]

No it’s DCF

[distant raven]

Cluxcult

[night atlas]

deepclux

[robust siren]

nvm i understand it now
sniping is a bit mind numbing

[cyan lark]

KoM POM - better?

[tropic urchin]

ahem

[night atlas]

KoMeranian Pomeranian

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-hip-thrust-mj-michael-jackson-king-of-pop-gif-8072264

[cyan lark]

You're on it tonight

on the spice

[distant raven]

holy shit, talk about switch name gore

Wuque Studio WS Flux Switch Deep Clacky

[robust siren]

though it does get interesting sometimes
https://medal.tv/games/battlefield-6/clips/luNRIncogDTdW2Sm8?invite=cr-MSx0ZnMsMzM3MTkzMzA

[tropic urchin]

You should know my power level by now Turing

[distant raven]

also holy shit deepclux pricing

$2 each? lulz

[tropic urchin]

There’s a difference between bad Chinese translation and willingly typing all that shii every message

[cyan lark]

Oh no, you've activated @tropic urchin 's trap card

[robust siren]

$1 or less on aliexpress

[tropic urchin]

It’s the same price as your precious POM KOMs lad

[distant raven]

first time I've ever typed it out.

I'm going to call them deepclux

[cyan lark]

Less (with coupon shenanigans) - KoMs were $1 a pop

[robust siren]

dcf is all you need

[distant raven]

nah, I paid $1 unit for KOM POM not $2 unit

and got a discount too

[cyan lark]

KoMs were never > $1 a pop

[tropic urchin]

They’re $1 per switch on aliexpress, bait harder pls

[cyan lark]

unless you were getting scammed

[distant raven]

https://shop.wuquestudio.com/products/ws-flux-switch?variant=47304847294634

How's this bait?

[robust siren]

Wuque Studio WS Flux (Deep Clacky)

• MMD Ainy https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809702555279.html
• XIYOU https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809845800846.html
• MMD Global https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809702227830.html
• GGBOY https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809841751975.html
• Cherry Switch Store https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010215900173.html
• The Powerpuff Girls Switch Store https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010195147759.html
• TorontoKeyboardMan https://torontokeyboardman.ca/products/wuque-stuido-ws-flux-he-magnetic-switch?_pos=1&_sid=d7ea704e2&_ss=r&variant=44861454024899 (Make sure to select Flux Deep Clacky)

[distant raven]

it's literally the storefront

[robust siren]

counter arguement

[tropic urchin]

Nobody buys that shit directly from WS

This isn’t April 2025

[distant raven]

the only one baiting IS the storefront

[cyan lark]

It is silly that retail price is just wholly ignored though

[tropic urchin]

Yes, but you’re being obtuse purposely

[cyan lark]

y'all are too online to admit

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-spongebob-i-dont-need-it-sweat-gif-5031443

[cyan lark]

I did it. That doesn't mean you should.

(But probably you should)

[tropic urchin]

He already has em

[robust siren]

i bought at $75 for 70pc

[cyan lark]

ahh

[distant raven]

The official store's price is relevant to the conversation.

[little glen]

see i dont have that issue because none of the stores ship to me

[distant raven]

this is kinda funny though:

Toronto Keyboard Man (where I got my FR4 plate from) trollin' Wuque

[cyan lark]

I mean, there's a reason why being always on sale is illegal in the US

It's manipulative and gross

I'm sure there's similar laws elsewhere

[sacred elm]

Flux better

[distant raven]

yeah they called it "predatory"

clux

cult of flux
clux

[cyan lark]

Too many throwbacks in one night 😫

[tropic urchin]

Betterest*

To unlock the skibidi rizz

[distant raven]

truly a mental giant:

[cyan lark]

Just silly rage baiting

[tropic urchin]

I mean he’s never tried either switch, not sure why we’re using him as a barometer

[cyan lark]

I think now you see why he was such an actual detractor

[tropic urchin]

:POWAGA:

[fallen crag]

I've been looking through the maintenance bag for my wooting 80HE, I think it does have a switch opener actually? It's the metal square one that splits into two, at least I think?

[tropic urchin]

You need kailh for flux

[fallen crag]

OH really?

Damn that sucks

[tropic urchin]

Yes

[fallen crag]

Alright I'll get that then

[tropic urchin]

I had the geon opener and realized

Just get something like this

[sacred elm]

Just get 2in1 or 3in1 switch opener

it has both kailh and cherry

[cyan lark]

Have you used one?

[fallen crag]

Like this?

[cyan lark]

They work but they're way slower and less reliable at cracking them open

[fallen crag]

That’s the one that came with my wooting 80HE maintenance bag

[sacred elm]

This is what I have

[sacred elm]

Yeah

[cyan lark]

Yeah I think they're all about the same. They work just fine.

[tropic urchin]

You want the 2 slicers and not the 4 prong side

[fallen crag]

So long as I use the right side this one is capable or opening the fluxes though?

[cyan lark]

Yes, right right side on shafie's image (4 prongs)

[sacred elm]

Yeah, you need this one for Flux

[tropic urchin]

No the 2 slicers

4 prong is for normal

[fallen crag]

Alright very cool

That saves me having to order one separate

[cyan lark]

I shouldn't have spoken - haven't opened fluxies. Didn't know they were the other style!

I prostrate myself in front of the keeb gods in penance

[fallen crag]

I think when the time comes I will practice lubing the tikken V2s that came with my board just to get the hang of it

😅

[cyan lark]

There you go

Line up some podcasts and get comfortable

Also if you love yourself might I recommend grabbing a lubing station as well

[fallen crag]

I think I'll have a friend around for it. We've talked about getting him a wooting 80 for a while and it was ordered refurbished or whatever recently.

It would be a good opportunity to sit around and nerd out about keyboards together to pass the time

Looking forward to it tbh

[fallen crag]

A lubing station?

I haven't heard of that one yet, what exactly is a lubing station

Beyond what the name implies I mean

[tropic urchin]

Not really mandatory, just need like a few paper towels and a damp one in case you get greasy

[fallen crag]

Could use a lil more lube imo

[tropic urchin]

I’d also recommend bag lubing your springs

Or you will really hate your life donuting

Super lube works really well with springs

[cyan lark]

It's a bunch of switch sockets to work on for reassembling

[fallen crag]

I've seen that in a few tutorials, I don't think I have the right kind've lube for that on hand, I can probably pick it up at any hardware store I'd imagine?

Or is it something worth ordering in advance?

[tropic urchin]

I’d just use Amazon

[distant raven]

I didn't bag lube. It just takes longer if you brush.

[tropic urchin]

Could try hardware store but probably a waste of time

[distant raven]

Not a big deal. I found it satisfying, but I'm wired different.

[tropic urchin]

You can also donut it with 205g but you will really need backup

[fallen crag]

Alright, if you could give me a name to order or something that would be helpful

[distant raven]

You'll run out of the 205g if you're learning and not properly sparing and you ordered POMs

[cyan lark]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UKUHXK

(for springs)

Oh god more flashbacks - that person that said they were getting a quart of it

And were adamant that was a good investment

[tropic urchin]

Will never run out

Or you could be me and get the smallest and run out after 1 90x lubing

[cyan lark]

Out of super lube, or 205g0?

[distant raven]

If you know what you're doing, a little goes a very long way

(205g)

[tropic urchin]

Both

205g was half out anyway but

[cyan lark]

The grease I understand, but the super lube... it's like a few drops for 90. I think a small bottle is a lifetime supply unless if you have other uses for it (which admittedly, it is useful)

[tropic urchin]

I got the smallest available

[cyan lark]

Ah maybe I got 8oz, dunno

[fallen crag]

Well I'm just working on my 80 HE, so with the suber lube ordered and the stabilizer lube & the 205g that came in the maintenance kit, I should be set enough for the 80% form factor?

[tropic urchin]

You use only a few drops and those springs will still be dry 💀

[sacred elm]

Yes

[distant raven]

More than enough

[fallen crag]

Perfect

[cyan lark]

Buddy I know how to keep em moist

[tropic urchin]

[cyan lark]

Even gave it its own bottle in my work setup

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/moist-old-lady-tongue-selfie-gif-13471750

[fallen crag]

moist 👀

[distant raven]

The only challenge is if you got POMs. The stuff that's prelubed won't need much attention.

[fallen crag]

I got POM keycaps

[cyan lark]

Silicone oil, 99% alcohol, and distilled water and you can fix/clean anything

[fallen crag]

POM Jellies

[tropic urchin]

POM switches

[distant raven]

I'm talking about pom switches.

[fallen crag]

OH

I C

[distant raven]

And Wooting gives you enough molykote to last 1000 spacebars

[fallen crag]

I fear not the man who has lubed 1000 spacebars, but the man who has lubed one spacebar 1000 times

[distant raven]

😂

[cyan lark]

Now I wanna lube my keycaps 🤔

[fallen crag]

Leave it for a week around a toddler, it will either come back 100% sticky or 100% greased, no in between

[distant raven]

Vaseline them...

[fallen crag]

That's what happened with my parents membrane keyboard anyway

But it was bound to be a sacrifice anyway, thing was like 10$ 15 years ago

[distant raven]

Man, do I hate membrane keyboarda

[fallen crag]

Honestly?

There's a BIG range of membrane keyboards

It gets overlooked cuz like, why wouldn't you just get something better, obviously

[distant raven]

I've used a mechanical all of my life

Since the 80s...

[fallen crag]

I mean, most anyone who's gone to public school in the 2000s had experince with membranes

Cuz the comptuer labs

Tho I guess modern kids are using Ipads and stuff these days

Crazy how many of them don't know how to type like back when I was a kid

[distant raven]

My school was cutting edge and had Apple II GS...

😂

(which was cutting edge then)

[cyan lark]

I usually check w/ @tropic urchin for this gen alpha stuff

[fallen crag]

My school was not cutting edge and was still running windows 7 around 2020 💀

[tropic urchin]

If you call me Gen a 1 more time

There will be problems

[fallen crag]

Guys just a reminder, the first generation beta kids are already born 😟

[distant raven]

College was NeXT cutting edge or Windows 3.11 for Workgroups

[tropic urchin]

Their life is over before it even begins

Sad

[distant raven]

Bonus points if anyone's ever even heard of NeXT

[fallen crag]

My college just got rid of their computers, because it's cheaper to give the students who don't have one a shitty laptop than to waste the space the comptuer labs took up without being used

They literally handed me 2 monitors when I asked, so now I have a 3 monitor setup

Kinda crazy to think about, but like, I don't see anyone taking paper notes anymore

I'm the weirdo who still does that

[distant raven]

My work had a shitload of 13700K and half of them died to Intel failures 😂

[fallen crag]

RIP

[distant raven]

I still use Rite in the Rain for notes in the field.

Way more safe than a tablet on a job site.

[fallen crag]

I got a crazy cheap setup because it had a 14th gen, I just went in bios and underclocked the CPU until they'd released updates for it that Supposedly solved the issue

It also had a 4060ti, but the 16 gb Vram version, which is dumb for most setups, but I just so happen to enjoy VR games.

Which is the nieche case a GPU of that power could actually use 16GB Vram.

I think 32GB DDR5, 4060TI 16GB, 14th gen intel, 2 TB SSD, and a decent power supply prebuilt was on sale for like 1050$

About a year ago at this point

Pretty good deal as far as I can tell

Just got reminded of that because the employee basically told me it was cheaper because of the GPU and having a 14th gen that nobody else wanted to buy.

Due to the issues they were having

[distant raven]

Yeah, Intel really hurt themselves.

[tulip rapids]

friday zaa package comes in

[storm tendon]

I got a ryzen 5 9600X, 32GB DDR5, 2TB SSD, 5060TI and a 850W PS for about the same price

[bleak summit]

peach magnetic silent ordered

[prisma cloak]

Which switches would you recommend if I like the cherry mx red?

[queen otter]

my 13700K is BSODing too, so I got the 9800X3D

[distant raven]

yeah my 13600K was randomly black screen power offing for no reason (or so I thought until Intel admitted things after they got outed) also got 9800X3D

[fluid ravine]

Since you're coming off from MX reds, I'd suppose you're looking for a 4mm travel switch with an bottom out force of 60g or so. Best option i would say is to just get the Lekker Tikken.

[prisma cloak]

Thanks

[uneven cradle]

Picked up an FR4 plate for the 80HE during the 11.11 sale and also some other unnecessary things

[distant raven]

❤️ my FR4 plate in 80HE

[distant raven]

I went from Cherry MX Reds to KOM POMs and found them to be quite nice. Very stable, similar force.

haven't yet tried tikkens, but will in December

[prisma cloak]

I ordered the tikken L45 afterall

[chilly mural]

that doesn't exist. Only tikken medium. Are you sure you don't accidentally bought the lekker v2 l45 that has yellow stem?

[keen slate]

Is anyone here who knows from where to buy switches with less cost of delivery to Europe?

[silver lantern]

aliexpress

[neon nexus]

I bought some from deltakey a while ago

they don't have that many but I think shipping was only like 8 euros

[atomic raft]

Isnt it 20 eur on the wooting site?

[prisma cloak]

I meant that, you are right, but not accidentaly. i preordered the v2

[native wharf]

Hey quick question, i can mix switches on my uwu right? Like have 2 60g ones and 1 45g etc

Actually whatever I'll do all 3

OKAY let's see if i broke it by using a screwdriver and not opening it up properly

[rotund perch]

Worked on my 80he don't see why it wouldn't work on an UWU

All it is is just a lighter press

[native wharf]

that's true i was just like

i went with the method where i dont open it up and separate the plate and the pcb and whatnot

i just used a (rusty lol) screwdriver to pop them out

and i was worried i was gonna break them so i thought

i'll leave one intact

just to have a backup if i break one of the other 2 while doing it

dfgjdfhgdg

but then i was like ehhh fuck it and just took them all out and i think it works

they all register a nice slow press from 0mm to 4mm smoothly on wootility i think that means i didnt break anything

time to see if 60g is good for osu

[native wharf]

back to 45 .

ok that was mildly scary after putting the 45s back and going into wootility this little bar was jumping from like 3.2 or something straight to 4.0 but it only happened on the first keypress, now it's fine

[little glen]

Replug to recalibrate

[native wharf]

yep it happens every time i replug but then it's fine

like

the first press right after plugging it in does that skip thing but then it stops doing it and works perfectly after that, happens on all 3 keys

no idea why and i havent noticed it before although tbh i also never unplug it

maybe it's just a visual thing

or just the calibration taking a bit or requiring a full keypress or something

[silver lantern]

Part 1 for the future keyboard done ☑️

Part 2 module split bar + keycaps again 🤡

[rare obsidian]

Switch recommendations

[dire delta]

I did it... So should I biuld in the OW60 or Frog?

[silver lantern]

o-o that price damn

[dire delta]

Yeah ... they were cheaper ones but they didn't ship to my country

[silver lantern]

i take 70 of the Haimu Dove on ali for 13.57€

[lime yew]

Okay good you are aware the Optimum keycap set doesn't have split space support as of now.

[silver lantern]

That why I Buy two set

[fallen pecan]

new unionwell switch releasing with the titan68he v2: moon rock switch

[dire delta]

Where did you bought em?

[fallen pecan]

bro got slaughtered, 70 dcfs cost about 40 eur in china

[dire delta]

Could cancel cuz they aren't shipped

But I am too lazy to get a middleman

Yep

[tame garnet]

I really enjoy the akko astrolink switches. I plan on putting them in my 60HE v2 build

[verbal island]

holy ..... I just realized the WS Deep Clack are almost 2€ a switch...

[chilly mural]

yesh, but you can get it cheaper

[verbal island]

for europe? Where? 🤔

[chilly mural]

aliexpress

[verbal island]

Hm I guess that makes sense, just a risk you'll get fake ones

[rotund perch]

dude this ali sale makes DC fluxes really similar in price to tikkens lol

[calm pulsar]

doubt anyone would go through the effort of making fakes of WS switches lol

[chilly mural]

You'll be alright, just go with any of the link here.

[rotund perch]

it does make me want to go for fluxes and eventually try tikkens mayb

plans are changing again lmao due to this sale

[rotund perch]

anyone ordered from GGBOY?

[chilly mural]

not sure, but I remember some ordering from MMD

[verbal island]

ty! 😄

[rotund perch]

from ggboy its a TINY bit cheaper

tikkens vs ws fluxes

so similar 😭

choice is harder for NOW

[tropic urchin]

I’ve bought from MMD Ainy and GGBoy I wouldn’t sweat the vendors

I also paid the OG asking price for the OG flux and they’re identical build/quality wise

[verbal island]

bottom out distance is the main thing now

3,5mm vs 4mm pick your poison xD

[rotund perch]

yea, tbf I do prefer 4mm but it is a TINY bit longer than owlabs

[rotund perch]

If i dont like 3.5mm i can refund i think

i never ordered from alo

ali*

[verbal island]

that's fair, I feel like the difference will only be maybe felt if you use analog input or multiple actions on a single button

[rotund perch]

i dont use DKS i think its called

[verbal island]

I'm unsure about refund that way, sending back sounds like a pain in the a.... most of the refunds I had only was for stuff that arrived broken, wrong item or not at all

[rotund perch]

ah

[verbal island]

in that case they just refund money and tell you to throw it away most of the time from my experience

[rotund perch]

oh wait i have jade maxes and lekkers to compare to

with travel distance

3.5mm isnt bad actually

and sticky rice v2

wait 3.5mm is nice

[verbal island]

xD then I guess it's decided

finally broke 90wpm, this took waaaayyy too long, hopefully will get even better with new switches

[rotund perch]

because its not TOO short

i feel like 3.6-3.7mm would be perfect but 3.5 is good too

[verbal island]

do you really feel that difference? 🤔

[rotund perch]

between 4mm and 3.5mm?

[verbal island]

between 3.5 and 3.6 or 3.7

[rotund perch]

oh those i havent tested just 3.5 i just think that for me those would be the best

[tropic urchin]

I probably wouldn’t, but ti he definitely felt weirdly short

[verbal island]

hm I guess that's fair being 3.4mm vs 4mm

[peak breach]

Just get raptors v2

Problem is shipping

[fallen pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB9k6KckOh4 the ufos sound nice

[stoic ocean]

He made a video on X how to open them

[chilly mural]

It sounds exactly like how it's shaped, round

[thin geyser]

Does anyone know how to open flux dc with normal switch opener?

?

[tropic urchin]

You need a kailh opener specifically

[thin geyser]

Ffs

Uhh

[tropic urchin]

You don’t use the 4 prongs, but you would need to use the two bladed side

[thin geyser]

Is the factory lube good?

[tropic urchin]

Yeah, should easily last you until you get a kailh opener

Not mandatory to open it up day 1 like POM

[thin geyser]

Is facory lube only on the sdtem or also on the housing?

[tropic urchin]

95% of it is on the stem

[thin geyser]

So i can use them for like 6 months and then lube them?

[tropic urchin]

That’s what I did with the OG flux

I imagine you could probably do the same

[thin geyser]

Might do that too then

Gonna lube my raws so i can use them until v2 comes

cuz i cant with these fking jades

the wobble is crazy

[tropic urchin]

Amen brotha

[thin geyser]

Ty bro

[tropic urchin]

That was my reaction using Jade pros and wanted TTC Poms 😭

[thin geyser]

How is closed bottom compared to open?

These will be my first closed bottom

[tropic urchin]

I’ve only used closed so can’t say really

[thin geyser]

Oh

[chilly mural]

Can't wait to see how low wobble feels

[tropic urchin]

basicly like rock

[trail bane]

Huh, wobble? Never heard about that

[robust siren]

can confirm
coming from raws

[tropic urchin]

The bottom wobble almost hurts if you go hard enough

Kinda wish we could get an A+ top wobble and S bottom and call it a day

[cyan lark]

It just affects sound and it's generally accepted as an improvement. Don't think I've heard anyone prefer the sound of open to closed.

I suppose a fringe benefit is that lube can't ooze out the bottom either ☔

[chilly mural]

There's tecsee he

[tropic urchin]

I don’t count silent switches as real

[warped salmon]

any recommendations on switches that give more of a creamy thock sound?

that are compatible

[tropic urchin]

https://link.wooting.io/soundtests

You won’t find creamy thock, but here’s all the compatible switches as of rn with their sound tests

[warped salmon]

thanks!

gonna check them out

My board comes in Friday but already thinking bout modding

[tropic urchin]

The main generic categories are basically silent switches —> very muted, generic clack switches —> will sound like a keyboard, bright clack —> more sharp sounding and deeper switches —> deeper clack, sometimes marbly

[tropic urchin]

I’d see what switch sounds best to you and I’d get a few new plates to experiment with

[warped salmon]

Thanks a lot

[tropic urchin]

Are you getting 80HE?

[warped salmon]

yessir

[tropic urchin]

You’ll have stock PC plate which will dampen a lot of sound and will be fairly soft/flexible (dunno if you prefer this or not). I would say, to pick up either FR4, CF or both depending on what you like or want for your build

FR4 being a versatile plate for 99.5% of situations if you don’t want very soft or super stiff

[warped salmon]

Will be looking into all that anything you want to recommend me feel free to give input

[tropic urchin]

CF is a lot clackier and stiff, but with the right pairing it’s really nice