🔧│keyboard_modding

[distant raven]

lost-wax casting would be less waste of silver, and less collection from the mill, and silver casts fine

[tiny summit]

is there really a huge difference in overall feel to justify spending 400$ 😂

[marsh saffron]

just gotta run the math on how much silver you'll end up needing

and then fork over the money for any you dont already have

[distant raven]

less than 10 lbs, so easy peasy

[marsh saffron]

yeah

[distant raven]

I've got a safe full of the stuff

[robust siren]

pretend you’re getting 2 keyboards

[distant raven]

silver's cheap

[marsh saffron]

it would still likely be the most expensive 80he case

at least that i know of

dont think anyone else has done anything like that yet

[distant raven]

oh by far, it'd be thousands in silver

[marsh saffron]

yeah

• you can do some pretty sweet engraving with it 👀

[distant raven]

yeah that's the idea

[marsh saffron]

definitely keep me posted if you go forward with that

[distant raven]

engraved silver, with antiqueing in the reliefs

yeah, it'll be a while.

[marsh saffron]

certainly doesnt sound like an overnight project lol

[distant raven]

I have to make the mould of my Zn case before I build that KB

and then it's going to be a really paintstaking process on the wax

lost wax is a bit of a pain

[marsh saffron]

how so?

making the wax have no bubbles and all that or what?

havent looked into the lost wax pours much, seen it done a few times but thats it

[distant raven]

nah, more like, any mistake you make in your mold that makes the wax needs to be on the minus side, so that the wax is on the plus side

so that you can then trim off the excess wax

[marsh saffron]

ah

[distant raven]

you can't ADD wax

[marsh saffron]

yeah

[distant raven]

and then you have to verify your wax 100% to the original, and then from there, it's clay around that, smelt the silver, run the cast, which is at least recoverable if you mess up

you don't really lose much

but it's a bear to do

[marsh saffron]

from the sounds of it, youll likely have more silver than needed so any potential loss can be made up for

[distant raven]

and then from there it's hand-fit

yeah, I've got plenty of junk silver I can do it with

and it's not at all a loss in silver, it's just moving it from one chunk of metal to another, could always pull the case, melt it down and resell it

[marsh saffron]

yeah

[distant raven]

or just sell it as-is; just have to do an assay on the content and then weigh it, not a big deal at all

[marsh saffron]

but the flex of a silver 80he case is more worth it

[distant raven]

right?

[marsh saffron]

im sure any buyers wouldnt care the shape of the silver

so long as it weighs what your selling it for

[distant raven]

they'd care about the metallurgy yeah

this is going to be a very long project though ehhe

[marsh saffron]

now the real question, what keycaps are you gonna pair with it 👀

[distant raven]

yeah that's the problem.

The keycaps I bought would be an insult to that.

[marsh saffron]

what color were you thinking of accenting the engraving with?

[distant raven]

antiqued silver is black

[marsh saffron]

hmm

[distant raven]

well not true black it's uhh

let me grab a random image of what it is

[marsh saffron]

i googled it

damn thats gonna look good...

[distant raven]

yeah you do whatever engraving you want to do, you then run the acid over all of it, and then you use a buffing wheel to polish off the high spots so they're lustrous, and the low spots remain antiqued

[marsh saffron]

doing like a grey keycap set prob wouldnt work well, because the shading would just be completely wrong

[distant raven]

I am not a great engraver.

I'd probably pay my friend's father a fair chunk to do some scrollwork for me.

Keycaps, honestly, could just do a mix of WOB keycaps.

and BOW

[marsh saffron]

white could look good, but not if you want the keycaps to actually match the colors of the case itself

[distant raven]

or just all WOB

nah, the keycaps would probably need to contrast

[marsh saffron]

pbtfans xray on that could look really good, but with the antiquing probably not. colors would clash too much

[distant raven]

There's absolutely no way I could make metal keycaps out of silver and get the PBT inserts to fit right. I do NOT have that kind of time or money.

I think a matte black PBT with white letters or grey letters would be best.

[marsh saffron]

https://awekeys.com/products/fullmetalkeycapsset?variant=47271416561945

there is these

[distant raven]

nah...

[marsh saffron]

but the silver is extremely polished so

[distant raven]

you get into different lusters of metal and

[marsh saffron]

yeah

[distant raven]

it just clashes

[marsh saffron]

also 500 cad for keycaps 😭

[distant raven]

Also silver is NOT good for reacting to body oils or sweat, so I'd need to laquer it after antiquing and polishing it.

[marsh saffron]

god damn

[distant raven]

and I'd have to account for the added thickness of the lacquer

yeah metal keycap would be a nonstarter

[marsh saffron]

the lacquer cant be that thick can it?

ig it could if your wanting really tight tolerances so you arent getting gaps

[distant raven]

every thousandth of an inch (or every mil) counts

cerakey v3 matte black would look really good on it I think, and it'd be a pretty good material choice

[marsh saffron]

having your keyboard cases spacing measure in thou is a flex within itself

let alone being silver

[distant raven]

well you want some spacing

I wouldn't make it that tight, or it'd bind up getting stuff in it

also gotta be able to pull keycaps

[marsh saffron]

didnt think about this part

[distant raven]

so it'd be the same overall size as 80 HE between the keys, so having tight spacing at the edges is pointless

[marsh saffron]

having to pull the whole pcb just to get the caps around the edge off 😭

[distant raven]

I'd want it to be basically a match to 80HE

[young viper]

nah get the awekeys they look cool

[distant raven]

but, that said, it's just one big open rectangle, so a few thou at the edges would be fine

[marsh saffron]

@young viper

the awekeys just would clash too much

would look off

[young viper]

yeah, i mean if the case was a different color itd be a different story

[marsh saffron]

even if he polishes the living shit out of the case, it'd likely still be off

[distant raven]

awekeys viking frigg silver would be fun

But it'd definitely clash with real silver...

[tiny summit]

AG60 has anyone used it? Is it good for wooting? 🙂

[distant raven]

the case will be WAY more lustrous

real silver is ... well, just look at proof coins

[marsh saffron]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1423863936515838082

this guy has'

[young viper]

I really want that copper eagle but 219 usd😭

[marsh saffron]

im sure they could answer some of your questions

[young viper]

plus i'd have to spring swap every key

[tiny summit]

thanks!

[distant raven]

but yeah, those keys would not be good

not for a real silver case

[young viper]

https://awekeys.com/products/full-metal-keycaps-set-retro-80s?variant=49516254920985

look at the slate grey ones though, those look amazinf

[distant raven]

For an absolutely absurd cost I'm totally unwillnig to spend, I could have actual silver keys cast and polished, have them engraved with the characters, antique the characters, and then epoxy the PBT stems in place by hand. It'd be thousands of dollars and a ridiculous flex.

But I'm not looking to throw money at labor here. I'm just thinking about turning weight in a safe into pretty weight on a desk on my own sweat.

[young viper]

do it

[marsh saffron]

shit would cost more than the raw silver for the case prob 😭

[young viper]

ultimate flex

true end goal

[distant raven]

nah, I don't have the expertise to cast keycaps, and the cost of the labor on that for a one-off job would be multiple thousands

keycaps are shockingly complex surfaces

[marsh saffron]

• tolerances arent exactly lenient

[distant raven]

correct

[marsh saffron]

which does nothing but increase the price even more

[distant raven]

if you don't absolutely nail the dimensions on keycaps, you FEEL it

yeah

[young viper]

at least with the silver you could just bend the stem if it didnt fit fully

[distant raven]

trust me, trying to get a real silver keycap made (also oh hell the SOUND would be horrific...)

silver rings

there's no thock thock

it'd be thock RING

thock PING

[marsh saffron]

that shit would be pinging

[distant raven]

it would be terrible

[marsh saffron]

keyboard sounds like throwing a quarter on concrete 😭

[distant raven]

💀

I have enough 4 kHz tinnitus, thank you very much, I don't need my keyboard pinging me

[young viper]

m1 garand ping with every press

[marsh saffron]

now THAT would be worth the money

[distant raven]

SureFire 3 prong ping with every pres

IFYKYK

[marsh saffron]

just dont show it to your grandpa 😭

ptsd episode with every keystroke

[young viper]

LMAOOOO

[distant raven]

yeah, the engineering to make an actual silver keycap work would be stupidly absurd

[young viper]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1248825961/blank-handmade-premium-solid-sterling?gpla=1&gao=1&utm_source=affiliate_window&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=us_location_buyer&utm_content=1001765&source=aw&sv1=affiliate&sv_campaign_id=1001765&awc=6220_1761625687_1d4d7e81783b5c87922e4b2083f34c32&variation0=2661983714

189 for a sterling silver esc key lmao

[distant raven]

Now, maybe with some time on a LBPF I could 3d print silver keycaps.... that might actually be viable.

but I don't have thousands to throw at that kind of printer

[young viper]

i have pressure pots (what removed bubbles from resin) and stuff so theoretically i could make my own keycaps lmao

[distant raven]

the problem is the molds

[young viper]

yeah, I'd probably just buy enough silicone to cast a whole set of the keycaps

[distant raven]

Molds are not at all cheap, and cast keycaps would possibly have issues with brittleness.

It's why cerakeys are up at v3 now, because folks were literally shattering the v1 and v2

[young viper]

yeah, debating on trying thr cerakeys

[distant raven]

casting the case body isn't a big deal, because it's thick enough

if you do, only v3

[young viper]

yeah, i think only the matte is on the v3 though

[distant raven]

correct

but that's the only one with (so far) good reports on durability

[young viper]

yeah, personally would never go for the gloss

[distant raven]

yeah, both the black and white matte looked really nice

[young viper]

oh amazing, I wish they had a grey but not yet sadly

[distant raven]

so if I do this, I'm looking at roughly $3,250 in silver transformed from junk coins to a keyboard case

LOL

(at today's prices)

but I already have it, so it's not really costing me anything but time

Still, will be a wild flex.

I could go much cheaper, and just plate the Zn case.

Plebs would never know the difference. (I just couldn't engrave then, so it'd be boring.)

hrmmm.... plated keys might work

I bet taht Etsy "solid sterling silver key" isn't really solid silver anyhow.

hahaha

[marsh saffron]

thousands? dont those run like 10-40k?

[distant raven]

yeah at least

[marsh saffron]

ig maybe consumer ones could be cheaper

[distant raven]

nah, they're 5 figures

[marsh saffron]

small price to pay for perfection

[distant raven]

nah, this is "use existing metal and be cheap, but have a grand flex"

Not "I just won powerball and I'm stupid."

[marsh saffron]

[distant raven]

Honestly, if I really wanted to flex with keys, the right way is old-school piano way.

Ivory with ebony insets.

that's true rich folk luxury materials, and also the sound of an ivory key would be super thocky

hand-carved ivory keycaps with ebony insets LOL

It'd probably be cool to type on but I don't have that kind of skill.

(nor am I sitting on ivory)

[marsh saffron]

jesus

millionaires 80he 😭

[distant raven]

lol, I wouldn't do it, but it WOULD be a cool material

[marsh saffron]

least ethical 80he 🔥

[distant raven]

Right?

If your keycaps aren't from African elephant tusks, then what are you even doing modding?

maybe a fur seal mouse pad?

[marsh saffron]

my brother worked at some rich dudes house, he had real rhino feet as his pool tables feet

[distant raven]

I mean, let's throw some blood diamonds in too.

[crystal pagoda]

And crp is still better

[marsh saffron]

he said his alcohol collection was worth 6 figures

💀

[distant raven]

oh... I may have a few nice bottles that cost a lot but nothing absurd like that

[marsh saffron]

im just a measly beer drinker

[distant raven]

That one, I can't get anymore. Got two of 'em.

Only one left 😂

They probably lost half of it aging it that long

[marsh saffron]

my tastebuds arent evolved enough to enjoy this kinda stuff

when it comes to anything but beer i just take shots 😭

[distant raven]

scotch not for everyone, though speysides are pretty mild

[marsh saffron]

scotch is probably my least liked of them all

my brothers a fan of scotch

[distant raven]

That's probably the most costly bottle I have, and it's not really all that costly compared to what absurd people do.

But it's only my #2 favorite bottle.
My favorite stuff is like half the price.

[calm pulsar]

based

[distant raven]

CRP?

[distant raven]

hehe, switch waving !

[robust siren]

[young viper]

I just learned about the limited edition dbrand keycaps

I want it lol

[cloud crane]

Wow they have thermal so cool 🤤

[distant crag]

anyone here purchased from this store in taobao? cheap deep clacks

[young viper]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8DLB8v3/

@distant raven @marsh saffron they did the all metal lmao

[glacial wind]

i will eventually but stabs aren't usually something that need to be confirmed like this

the reason we had incompatibility with the previous version is because the plate was designed for platemount + screw in

60he v2 is just your standard screw in pcb sized holes

[fringe quarry]

raptor v2 factory lube also weird

there are just some spots of lube in it

[floral summit]

So I've lubed and tuned the stock wooting stabilizers and they sound and feel a lot better.

But no matter how much tuning there's still slight ticking sounds that i just cant get rid of.

Are there any recommendations on stabilizers for the 80HE.

I've been looking at the stabies v2.1 but unsure of the compatibility with the 80HE.

Any advice is appreciated.

[little glen]

recommended stabs are sw knight or typeplus x yikb stabs

[tropic urchin]

Knights are gud

[floral summit]

awesome. thank you for the recommendation. Ill looks for some stores here in Australia that stock them.

[little glen]

daily clack should have the typeplus

[floral summit]

Oh perfect. Ive ordered from them a few times. will check them out.

[floral summit]

Keebz and cables have the V4. Are these the ones?

https://www.keebzncables.com/products/swagkeys-knight-stabilisers-v4?srsltid=AfmBOoqkXJFIDvjp8OwIRmmw9r6YWPbNmoCiywzRRB9Zdmt5KL4oZ8mm

[little glen]

ye those are knight

i'm using the v2, the v4 are fairly new but they're good i hear

[floral summit]

yeah the typeplus are sold out in all aus stores including daily clack

[little glen]

oops i may have bought 2 sets of them at one point

[floral summit]

haha you in Aus too?

[little glen]

no

daily clack just had a really good deal on gmk keycaps

and i needed to add 50 aud to the order value for them to ship to me

[floral summit]

Yeah i got my 80082 from daily clack at a really good price a while back

[tropic urchin]

So the most up to date knights are the V4s. If you can find V2s they’re good as well. Only thing that’s changed is that the newer ones are easier to tune

And updated molds iirc

[little glen]

i got 2 sets for 100 aud each

was very good deal

[floral summit]

Yeah they do some crazy deals. i paid $125 aud for the GMK 80082 set down from $240

[floral summit]

Yeah definately keen to try them out. Something thats easier to tune is ideal forsure haha

Just krytox 205g0 recommended for these too or thicker?

I generally do krytox for housing and grease for the wires

[tropic urchin]

Should be fine

[little glen]

most up to date stabs just need g0

[floral summit]

Perfect. Sounds good to me. gonna grab a set.

Will see what else i can bundle in for some free shipping

[tropic urchin]

If you have super lube in AUS that works pretty well on wires for me

[glacial wind]

Don’t go thicker

using more than 205g0 can ruin those stabs

[floral summit]

Ok noted. will just use my 205g0 then.

[glacial wind]

tl;dr is all the new gen stabs is = 205g0 only

none of them are designed for thicker lubes

[tidal frigate]

Why tho

[floral summit]

including the stock 80HE stabs?

[glacial wind]

because tolerances are too tight

[glacial wind]

80he isn't new gen style stabs

80he you want the opposite, which is super heavy on the wire

[tidal frigate]

There are thicker lube than krytox?

[glacial wind]

plenty

[floral summit]

ok yeah cos i went much thicker on the wires with the wooting ones and 205g0 on the housing

[glacial wind]

you're not using raw he are you?

[floral summit]

I specifically used dialetric grease

[glacial wind]

some switches have a resonance that sounds like ticking but isn't ticking in certain stabs

[tidal frigate]

Wooting x very expensive stabiliser company collab?

[floral summit]

Oh naa switches im runing the gateron jades factory lubed. havent touched them

stabs i used 205g0 housing and dialetric grease for wires

[glacial wind]

it's patented is the tl;dr why wooting can't just copy whatever stab design

[tidal frigate]

And putting eveything together takes an hour

[floral summit]

Im tempted to swap out for the jade pros though or for Geon Raws

[little glen]

if you want to swap them

swap em for a newer switch

[glacial wind]

eh jade pros are fine, i wouldn't swap them for raw he

[little glen]

deep clack flux, hmx crystal, lekker tikken

[floral summit]

Im running the older jades

not the pros

[tropic urchin]

If you can get any on the list you should be all set for Jade upgrade

The meta has moved on quite a bit from the jade pro/raw he days

[floral summit]

maybe i try the tickens being the new kid on the block

[fringe quarry]

raw he still top3 best sounding switch

[tidal frigate]

Lekker tikken is current meta right?

[little glen]

dcf/tikken

but i cope that hmx crystal can compete

[tropic urchin]

Take a look at the picture

[floral summit]

ill need to look up some sound clips. so far from clips ive seen the raws have fit the sound profile im after the most. But will check out the tickens too and compare

[little glen]

https://link.wooting.io/soundtests

[fringe quarry]

owlab in the sound category

evil

[little glen]

please keep in mind

to only compare soundtests from the same source

so if you like the raws in other recordings, listen to them here again

[floral summit]

So all in this list are tested on the same setup?

[tropic urchin]

And others but yeah

[little glen]

yes

sno did all the soundtests

[tropic urchin]

All on the new V2 stock I believe

[floral summit]

Perfect. great resource to have

[little glen]

the board is in the video

its all v2 with some different keycaps

[floral summit]

damn falling deep into the rabbit hole now. went from just wanting stabs to now swapping out switches and looking at whether to get the GT80 case or the zinc wooting case haha.

How this hobby traps you so quickly

[tropic urchin]

GT80 if you value your time imo

[floral summit]

yeah ball catch is nice

[little glen]

gt80 if you want something that looks nice

get the silver

[tropic urchin]

The zinc case screws get old fast

[floral summit]

some complaints of it sounding hollow though

[little glen]

or a different color that isnt black

[tropic urchin]

Use polyfill or foam and you’re fine

[little glen]

poly fill

[tropic urchin]

I also like the typing angle more

[floral summit]

yeah the old polyfill comes in handy. used it on my old monsgeek m1 board and it was perfect

I like the gunmetal colour gt80 when i was looking at them

should pair nicely with my gmk 8008 set

[little glen]

just search this on the discord
from: weebz4rd has: sound

to hear gt80 with poly fill

i have the gray gt80 😄

[floral summit]

any pics at all? would love to see it in something other than the stock photos

[little glen]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1342211699234832485

keep in mind i took the pics with sunlight blasting so it looks a bit brighter than irl

[tropic urchin]

I’ll toss my silver into the ring

[little glen]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message another look at it with different keycaps

[floral summit]

silver is super classy dude

[tropic urchin]

Another nice silver

@calm pulsar

[little glen]

badgeless

[tropic urchin]

W badgeless

[little glen]

[tropic urchin]

[little glen]

looks bald with no badge

[tropic urchin]

That’s why we have you to balance us out

Bald or cheese grater take your pic

[ionic breach]

ngl

ive come around to thinking the badge looks weird

[little glen]

nah ur crazy

looks great

[tropic urchin]

It looks like either a cheese grater or jail bars and nothing in between

[little glen]

im gonna print out a picture of you and put you behind the bars

[tropic urchin]

If it was just a gold square I wouldn’t mind it

[little glen]

if you say one more word

[calm pulsar]

no need for this gimmick

[tropic urchin]

Get the astral clippy pic first

I’ll send it to you if you wanna do it

🤣🤣🤣

[floral summit]

yeah the grey looks super clean too. Plus just listened to your sound test under that photo you linked. sounds so good.

[paper bison]

black badge w black case ❤️

[tropic urchin]

Only if you commit to GMK black and gold then I like the badge

[sweet oak]

Crunch

[fallen pecan]

releasing nov 5th, sikakeyb x gateron

upcoming akko x outemu

[chilly mural]

circly triangle stem

@tropic urchin have hope

[tropic urchin]

Gateron with stinky releases

Catch me ousside

[little glen]

Neither

Deep clack flux or tikken

Nothing is thock

Thock is a lie

[cyan lark]

Still bugs me out that people off-hand recommend $2 switches

I remember when $1 switches were screamed at full chested

[little glen]

Dcf are way cheaper on aliexpress

Like 70 cents

[cyan lark]

Really :suspicious:

[little glen]

Yes

[ionic breach]

it is yea

[little glen]

Confirmed to be legit by plenty of people that bought them

[cyan lark]

Dashes are jade recolors

[little glen]

Just look at this

And use the soundtest database

Yeah all he switches are clack

Some are higher pitch some are lower

But they all clack

If someone tells you something is thock they either dont know what they‘re talking about or they‘re lying

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-star-trek-tos-leave-good-luck-outta-here-gif-16908390

[reef oar]

trash

[little glen]

They‘re jade recolors

Very outdated

Its all clacky

Just listen to the sound tests and see what you like

https://link.wooting.io/soundtests

[tropic urchin]

I mean they’re not anymore but alright chief

[little glen]

Only compare soundtest from the same source

[reef oar]

they're all clack. always has been

[little glen]

Aka dont compare these to like milktooth

[tropic urchin]

@cyan lark https://torontokeyboardman.ca/products/wuque-stuido-ws-flux-he-magnetic-switch

Even if you hate aliexpress we have them on TKBM for half off

Like it’s not April anymore

[cyan lark]

😭 been j*bbing

[glacial wind]

jade pro are soundtested in the database too fyi

just head over and listen to sound tests there to see what you like

[little glen]

my top 3 are not what you are looking for

i like a bright clacky switch

[glacial wind]

i have them but not soundtested yet as you're naming super old outdated switches that are not recommended these days

he's literally linking you an entire list of recommendations with a photo even, I'm not sure what you want from him more

[cyan lark]

I think it’s a bot

[glacial wind]

there's photos and sound tests for every recommendation in that image at the link

he means all HE switches are clacky. Jade pros = clacky. Lavender = clacky. Whatever other one you are about to name = clacky

they are just variations of clacky and there's no such thing as thocky in HE really

anyhow there are literally sound tests if you just click that link he gave you and you can listen and compare what the most popular switches sound like

the image literally has that info

[cyan lark]

And also these are all made up words and there is no real definition of thock or clack and reality is what you make of it

[sacred elm]

It's there

Gateron Jade

[glacial wind]

ws dash is literally gateron jade

it's just a recolored housing

(which btw gateron jade is also in the database he linked you)

[sacred elm]

Sound tests of most popular options are already there, just search it up

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/preference-glarses-mx-brown-cherry-mx-brown-keyboard-gif-21044520

[glacial wind]

to clarify, besides ti he you're naming switches that are old and not as good as the current top picks, which is why 'those aint in the recommended list'

if you wish to buy them you can, but not many people here are going to recommend them over other options

[sacred elm]

Ti is loud and very clacky, if you want that, sure.

[glacial wind]

and again if you wanted to compare you can go to the link provided which has sound test of both the owlab ti he and gateron jade and gateron jade pro

and compare the sound of the 3 switches yourself

[tropic urchin]

There’s been a lot of new switches coming out since this February which is when it started to really pop off with new releases every few months

Makes sense

[distant raven]

Is the Wooting x TTC KOM POM not in that image for a reason?

[little glen]

the helios is a slightly more up to date version

[distant raven]

I see.

[polar girder]

Hell nah. What’s the right answer???

Jk

[tropic urchin]

Should have same stability, but Wooting POM will have heavier spring (55g vs 45g) @distant raven

[little glen]

if you prefer the neutral color for rgb or want to order from wooting themselves, the wooting kom pom are still a good option

[distant raven]

Perfect, thank you. I like the heavier spring.

Already had the Wooting x TTC KOM POM on the way, just wanted to make sure before I installed. Did order from Wooting.

Don't care about RGB at all. 😂

I'm so anti-RGC, it's not even funny.

[little glen]

thats fine

[fallen crag]

I like to play in the dark, so I like the backlighting

[distant raven]

(is getting harder to find RAM that isn't glowy)

[little glen]

i use mine to have a nice gradient between blue and purple

with the noise effect

not the rainbow puke stuff

[distant raven]

I don't mind a dull red RGB if I have to have RGB

[little glen]

i play with the lights ON and the window OPEN

[polar girder]

Damn ok

[fallen crag]

On my 80HE I like the RGB that activates with the function key

[little glen]

my pc will regulate the heat in my room

[fallen crag]

So I can code their functions by color

[fallen crag]

I only play one or two games that get my pc hot like that

[distant raven]

New see, that's pretty cool, and that's RGB customization I can get behind.

I do play in a blackout curtain room with the lights off, which is even better at night when the only light from outside is star or moonlight.

I just like the only real little in the room to be from my monitor.

That said, Wooting's wootility is pretty fantastic from what I've read so far, and I really like that idea of having the Fn key illuminate everything. I'll probably also code in the capslock key itself illuminating if activated.

[fallen crag]

Caps does that by default if you just set your lighting to black but keep its brightness up

[distant raven]

Thanks for that.

[little glen]

sno, the guy that made the switch database

you will notice the pressing sound more than the releasing sound

[ocean escarp]

Guys, which keycaps do you think I should get from Aliexpress? The first or second link?

1: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EH17l0k

2: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EukGaQ8

[tropic urchin]

Metallic sound depends on the case insulation and plate material tbh

[chilly mural]

both are kinda just the same. prop from the same factory too

[tropic urchin]

The biggest difference between the two imo aside from price is that owlab is decently brighter in sound and the lesser bottom out wobble.

If you don’t want a deeper sounding switch then just get owlabs

[ocean escarp]

This is my first time ordering from Aliexpress, and the descriptions are different. Are you saying that they are exactly the same, and I should choose the one with more positive reviews and more products sold?

[ocean escarp]

@tropic urchin what do you think?

[paper bloom]

If you ask me check the reviews thoroughly and see if theyre legit or not

sometimes ali express can have botted reviews

[trail bane]

https://tenor.com/view/its-all-a-matter-of-preference-victor-nevárez-internet-shaquille-its-up-to-you-whatever-you-like-gif-10753627764520041594

[timber crystal]

Guys will the new Wooting 60he v2 have a option to pre-order module? i have ordered tofu 60 redux and gateron jadepro switches and i want to have the module before xmas

[tropic urchin]

I can’t see the aliexpress links on mobile bc it just auto prompts me to sign in

[ocean escarp]

From the links, it seems to me that both are legit

[tropic urchin]

If you can SC the keycap picture with vendor and price I can take a look

[chilly mural]

description reads similar to me. imo, just go with whatever.

[tropic urchin]

I’ve heard the DCF, but haven’t checked out owlabs since I own both

[ocean escarp]

Among these 2

[trail bane]

https://x.com/freewheeler_/status/1983169341916102992?s=46

Freewheeler (@Freewheeler_)

MORPHLING x GATERON x SIKAKEYB

X · Oct 28, 2025, 1:49 PM

[timber crystal]

Will the new Wooting 60he v2 have a option to pre-order module? i have ordered tofu 60 redux and gateron jadepro switches and i want to have the module before xmas

[tropic urchin]

It will vary from keyboard to keyboard. If you have a PCR case and PC plate it won’t sound metallic

[trail bane]

[tropic urchin]

The top wobble is the same, but if you bottom out frequently for FPS, I didn’t enjoy it that much. That being said, you’ll find others that like them more

Really depends on what you value

They’re not bad switches by any means

By the time owlabs came out I already was on POM/Flux for stability so once I was used to that, the owlabs didn’t feel like much to me

So coming from Jade pros, I wasn’t that interested going back to that level of stability

[sacred elm]

Yes

[tropic urchin]

Depends on your budget and what you want really

Only you can really answer that. If you don’t want to spend a lot then owlabs will be good

The word you might be looking for is case resonance. I believe the sound test is done on the new 60HEv2, so you may want more heavy duty foam or polyfill to eliminate that resonance. FR4 is not a metallic plate, it’s made from the same material as the PCB. As the case is the only metallic part of the build

[ocean escarp]

@tropic urchin can you take a look at it later? Thank you

[tropic urchin]

I’d pick it out of a hat if I’m going to be honest, price is close, set is the same

The thing is if you just leave your keyboard stock, then you’re left with the acoustics of whatever it is prebuilt. No matter what keyboard or switch you can always mod most things away (if you don’t want high pitched sounds, use poron pad to reduce that frequency. If your keyboard is metallic or hollow sounding then use polyfill to reduce case resonance or use foam. Deep clack flux isn’t a metallic switch, but to get a metallic sound you’d need a metal case or a metallic plate with minimal foam/dampening

[ocean escarp]

Why does the same manufacturer have two identical listings at different prices?

[ocean escarp]

@tropic urchin I don't understand this

[tropic urchin]

I don’t think it matters really

The difference is immaterial

Id just get the highest reviewed one i guess

I don’t think you’re going to get any difference in quality between the two

Going over it as much as we have has developed analysis paralysis so I think you need to just order one you’re comfortable with and see how you like the caps

Going to have to try it at some point right?

[ocean escarp]

Yes but why post two identical announce

[chilly mural]

either more reach or having a backup storefront, I think.

[ocean escarp]

To sell more you say?

[tropic urchin]

Off the top I don’t know, but they’re only off by a dollar or two or whatever it is in your native currency. Aliexpress is kinda like the Wild East version of Amazon.

Ultimately it doesn’t matter imo

[ocean escarp]

Ok ty

[ocean escarp]

Do you think that this one on Etsy, which costs €40 more than the one on Aliexpress, has identical keys but is overpriced because it is being passed off as higher quality? https://www.etsy.com/it/listing/4374610984/tasti-retroilluminati-rgb-giapponesi

[tropic urchin]

My TL;DR is if it puts your mind at ease, get the $1-2 more expensive or if you don’t wanna pay more for the same set then get the cheaper

[tropic urchin]

Their $166 starting offer is wild shit to me

That’s GMK territory

[little glen]

probably the same thing just being resold

[tropic urchin]

Yeah

Crazy markup

[ocean escarp]

Xd

[tropic urchin]

Worst case if you don’t like them, then you can pivot to other suitable keycaps without making too many compromises (I.e. Wooting dyesub PBT cherry profile)

I believe those are your best options if you need to keep cherry profile and shine thru

[ocean escarp]

Ok ok

[ocean escarp]

So in the end, you're saying to go for the option on Aliexpress with the most reviews and the lowest price?

[tropic urchin]

Yeah that should be fine

[little glen]

or GMK

[tropic urchin]

Whatever you are more comfortable with

[little glen]

[tropic urchin]

He wants shine thru brotha

Above all

And PBT

[little glen]

[ocean escarp]

Ok ty for all

[little glen]

why not just get 2 woot sets and mix them for accent

[tropic urchin]

The TLDR is he wants specifically double shot PBT shine thru keycaps that are cherry profile and that’s a unicorn for a good quality set

[little glen]

ah

yeah nah ur cooked

[tropic urchin]

And likes that particular set which happens to encompass all of those things

So hopefully he likes it, if not I’m trying to get em to pick the dyesub Wooting keycaps that are PBT + cherry and shine thru which are his best for overall quality imo without significant compromise

Otherwise it’s just a sea of disappointment out there

[little glen]

yeah hopefully woot swap to cherry profile once the molds for their current set are used up

[robust siren]

@tropic urchin gimme cf plate that lets me gasket mount split spacebar 60he v2

[tropic urchin]

You’re going to need to visit tom from Hypekeyboards lil bro

I ain’t got that shii

Actually tho bc you’re going to need a custom plate

[little glen]

honestly considering gt60 with custom plate for 60hev2

make it iso as well

1 of 1 type shit

[final goblet]

what material for the plate do you want

[little glen]

alu probably

[tropic urchin]

Just need a custom keycap to boot

1:1

[little glen]

nah i aint doin that

[tropic urchin]

Not a true 1 of 1 kinda guy I see

[robust siren]

im loving the gt60 case

[little glen]

idk man ISO split space gt60 plate seems pretty close to 1/1

[robust siren]

i cant even tray mount it

cause its top mounted

[tropic urchin]

Could always be more unique

[robust siren]

for screws

wait do we need stabs for split spacebar

[tropic urchin]

Only thing that comes to mind are cerakeys for white but that’s a different beast

[mild cargo]

do most of us use backlit keycaps ot not really

[little glen]

gmk dots white

[little glen]

people that are really into the hobby do not use backlit keycaps

how tf would i know you want a blank for rgb

none of the original message gave any indication you want to use rgb with it

[mild cargo]

Going for a black and white scheme going to be getting a andonized grey or silver case

[robust siren]

get silver

[little glen]

silver

[tropic urchin]

Only good blanks to my knowledge are Pbtfans Lyla which aren’t white and GMK cosmos which is grey with white speckles

[mild cargo]

twist my arm a little more 🤣

[little glen]

cosmos arent even really blanks

[tropic urchin]

For white blanks aside from random Amazon $20 keycaps, cerakeys were the only ones that popped up @meager rain

[robust siren]

bootiful (but this is the 60%)

[little glen]

gray is good too tbh

[robust siren]

can confirm

silver works with many colors

got wob with red, blue on white, white on blue

[distant raven]

That really does look good.

If you do it, get the v3.

The v2 had issues with breaking

[tropic urchin]

Yeah that’s the thing xD

@meager rain I can’t vouch for the quality but are these suitable

All of these white blanks are just so bad lmao

[marsh saffron]

Higround🤢

[robust siren]

are these neutral white?

[tropic urchin]

Idek

[robust siren]

i might need that spacebar kit

[tropic urchin]

They’re the only non $12 Walmart set

@meager rain https://divinikey.com/products/kbs-highlight-white-keycaps

I don’t even know what your build is going to be

[robust siren]

wait ima have to use a 6.25u spacebar without stabs if i get the split spacebar cause i wont have a plate

💀

[tropic urchin]

Either don’t buy a metal case or have proper foam/case filling for polyfill, half of what you were talking about for upstroke and down for keypress didn’t register for me at all going to be honest

[robust siren]

hmm

actually

depending on the price i might get the v2 plastic case just so i can use it waiting for the plate..

ill have to do sum testing tomorrow

@glacial wind are the 60he v2 and the current 60he+ pcbs the same exact dimensions? length and width wise?

idk where that is

[glacial wind]

not sure if exactly 100% the same but they're both compatible with gh60 format if that's what you're trying to see

[thorny kestrel]

Idk if it’s the right channel but what switched will the 60 v2 will come with ?

[robust siren]

the gt60 uses silicone gaskets and the current pcb is a pretty snug fit already

[robust siren]

tikkens

if youre not getting split spacebar

[glacial wind]

the problem with mounting is usually not dimensions but the plate etc

does it use a custom plate or anything like that?

that's what makes things incompatible if it requires a different plate

[robust siren]

it has little tabs but they just rest ontop if the gaskets

[glacial wind]

or a specific sandwich layer etc

if you aren't buying split it shouldn't matter

[robust siren]

im gonna have to check with my plates tomorrow

[glacial wind]

but if you're buying split and it uses a different plate or anything like that then no it's not compatible

[robust siren]

considering split

[glacial wind]

same as owlab case

[tropic urchin]

@meager rain going to be honest whatever metal you’re hearing I don’t hear it at all on either recording

[robust siren]

i just need to make sure i can still use the silicone gaskets with a different plate

[glacial wind]

only the regular not the split

[tropic urchin]

Yeah I don’t hear it at all

[glacial wind]

yeah i have no idea what metal you're hearing on the upstroke. The only metal sound should be from the stab space bar

[tropic urchin]

The only difference between the two is that the owlabs have a brighter/more fierce clack to them

It’s just the ambient switch sound so if that’s not your style just get owlabs

So just get owlabs

Bc nobody else is hearing what you are

[trail bane]

Flux

[tropic urchin]

It’s just the ambient switch noise through the recording

Which is what it sounds like you don’t like

[glacial wind]

it's probably the 'thonk' reverb of the flux deep clacky he doesn't like probably

[tropic urchin]

Yeah

[glacial wind]

if you don't like that just get owlab ti he

[tropic urchin]

What I’m thinking too after hearing both

[glacial wind]

or buy normal flux

[tropic urchin]

Probably would have to buy via the Canadians

Even on FR4 normal flux are fucking giga clackers

[harsh dove]

When I was rebuilding my 80He last night I kinda liked the flux on Pom I had in there

[tropic urchin]

I wonder if normal flux would be good on POM plate with poron pad

[harsh dove]

Now I have Tikkens on CF

[harsh dove]

Idk about poron but I liked flux on Pom in my 80He

[tropic urchin]

POM combo with flux and silicone to me was just too harsh sounding bc both components are slightly harsh (POM + how bright flux are) and then silicone which amplifies high frequency

[harsh dove]

That’s fair, yeah I personally liked the snappy clack it had to it

Least to me it seemed really snappy

[tropic urchin]

I have been enjoying poron with DCF hard plates so might give it a try

Surely it won’t be softer than god

[tropic urchin]

For geon plates, do you think CF/copper are worth trying

Only have FR4 and alu which I feel like don’t give a great array of sound modification

I’d stick to owlab unless Canada ships to wherever you live bc don’t think aliexpress has any deal for OG flux

They’re definitely brighter than owlabs, so yeah I’d get owlabs and use them until you find a new switch you like

Which with the current pacing might be a few weeks or a month or two from now

[fringe quarry]

do yall know any black fr4 60% plates without accents

[tropic urchin]

Hypekeyboard could probably make one

[fringe quarry]

id imagine that be expensive with shipping to eu

[polar girder]

You like?

[polar girder]

True

[polar girder]

Pretty different if you want to pay for the experiment

[tropic urchin]

I know I’d probably like CF but unsure of copper since only copper was in stock on divinikey

[harsh dove]

Tbh I haven’t tried his CF or copper plates but copper seems like it could be fun to work with

[tropic urchin]

Idk what box you’re going to get but I think milktooth had it say heavy on it

50g I wouldn’t say is particularly heavy, it’s kinda average for spring weight

But for some reason it’s advertised as such, but worst case you can get heavier springs that are compatible @meager rain

Geon pingless he

[harsh dove]

So far yeah, I didn’t use it much tho, basically built it and went to bed, gonna use it more today

[tropic urchin]

Has 52.5g and 62.5g I think?

[sacred elm]

You should try deep clack flux

[tropic urchin]

I haven’t tried brass which I think it might be closer to

[harsh dove]

How are those compared to normie flux?

[sacred elm]

Softer sounding, less harsh

[harsh dove]

I have one brass plate for MX that tirade gave me a while back

[harsh dove]

Oh really? Interesting

[sacred elm]

Yeah, they're nice

[tropic urchin]

If you want my flux connoisseur review, if raptors are like 3.5-4/10 for volume, DCF is like a 6.5-7 and normal flux is an 11/10

[harsh dove]

Any weird quirks with them or they pretty solid all around?

[sacred elm]

Nah, they're good. No QC issues

[harsh dove]

Nice

[tropic urchin]

Weaker magnets too from the OGs if I recall

No issues pulling from the keyboard cough don’t butcher them cam cough

[sacred elm]

[harsh dove]

I’ll try my best if I get them

Funny you say that

[sacred elm]

do eeet

[harsh dove]

When I was pulling my OG fluxes out last night , I broke like 15 legs

Didn’t break any legs on my Tikkens though

[tropic urchin]

They aren’t a 1:1 to tikkens, but they’re in the same camp of fun customizing with harder plates

[sacred elm]

My OG Flux legs are still good, I pulled them countless times lol

weird

[harsh dove]

I must have a shit batch

[sacred elm]

Yeah maybe

[harsh dove]

The legs are so weak

[mild cargo]

im loving the TTK Kom Switches

[tropic urchin]

Or maybe is it because you don’t have the customized Wuque studio titanium puller ☝️🤓

[sacred elm]

He has it iirc

[harsh dove]

I do

And the tx one

I mainly use the wuque one tho

But yeah no other switches get broken legs like my Fluxes do

[tropic urchin]

Shit

My joke gone

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-bye-goodbye-im-out-speechless-gif-10053926133676146512

[harsh dove]

Not like the legs matter to me anyway

Switches still work and sound good

[tropic urchin]

If you buy the rakka atlas they cut them for you

Great use

[harsh dove]

Really?

[tropic urchin]

Or for some customized keys

Something like that

[harsh dove]

Interesting

[tropic urchin]

I’m not hip enough like aligner or arc to know the inner details for that

[mild cargo]

should i change the black keys and go all white

[tropic urchin]

I’m based but not entire red pill bottle based

[robust siren]

looks fine to me

[reef oar]

#ad

[tropic urchin]

Sponsored by Draft Kings Sport..
Sorry got ahead of myself

I like both plates, unless you’re sure regarding how stiff you like your plates, I think FR4 is more versatile for more switches/build variety

I like CF more for deeper sounding switches

[polar girder]

I’m intrigued by copper. I think it’s a softer metal than alu

[tropic urchin]

I heard someone say it’s similar to brass but never tried brass so idk how true that is

I think @trail bane is our copper guy

[trail bane]

I am

[tropic urchin]

How is copper plate

Only venom plate available thru divinikey rn 🥀

[trail bane]

Copper is quite soft and has an interesting sound. If someone reminds me, I’ll record some sound tests. Unfortunately, I’ve got a top mount I think it would sound better with the classic 80HE mount. Overall, I like it, but I need to find the right switches for it

[trail bane]

Custom plate

[tropic urchin]

Do deeper switches sound nice or no

I’d consider trying if any vendors has for 80HE

[trail bane]

I’ll send you the server where I ordered it in DMs if you want

[tropic urchin]

Probably not since it’s designed for another PCB entirely

[distant raven]

Imagine doing a micarta plate.

[tropic urchin]

I’ll check it out

[trail bane]

Around 50usd if I remember correctly

[tropic urchin]

Not bad

Send dat shii @trail bane

[distant raven]

I think that a micarta plate would be cool though.

Yeah, I can't help you there. I paid about that much for 24 hr air freight on 4090 I shipped...

[trail bane]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_ExlrZE0

[rotund perch]

lets go mikeytypes tikken video

[distant raven]

I've never quite understood why euro shipping is so much more costly than US shipping, considering that US shipping can be more than double the distance easily.

But hear me out, if there's not a micarta plate, then there should be.

[rotund perch]

this will be the best for me

[distant raven]

Oof.

I am going to grab a sheet of micarta and cut my own plate from it.

It'll only take me 100 hours 😂

Well, I have a template in the form of the Wooting plate.

And I can get a micarta sheet.

I'm just really interested in seeing how micarta feels, so I'll probably just cut a little piece out and put one key down and test.

...

[glossy pagoda]

60HEv2 comes with an FR4 plate

[tulip rapids]

steel plate

and it comes with new lekker candy

may i ask why you want owlabs

[sacred elm]

🤨

[tulip rapids]

the og fluxes or the deep clack?

nani

i have deep clack i dont have any issues

[sacred elm]

Yeah, not sure what reverb do you mean

Sounds clean to me

[tulip rapids]

also depends what you want in a switch if you want brighter (louder switches) owlabs will do that

[trail bane]

Got au muted for the first time

Scary shit

Yep👍

[tulip rapids]

my personal preference i would have never got owlabs and should have got tikkens instead. But i recommended deep clack fluxes by multiple people from here and got those switches instead

im happy with the deep clack fluxes but if this switch wasnt around i would have bought tikkens

each sound test will be different because people have different modded keyboards

what switches do you have now?

im in my bed recovering from food poisoning😔

yeah so any switch at this point will be a huge upgrade

i prefer switches with tighter tolerances because when i had geon raws my fingers would slip in comp matches

the stem wobble was pretty bad on those switches

[sacred elm]

If you have Lekker v1s, anything will be an upgrade

Alright, then we gave you a bunch of options. Choose what you like the most and get it.

No, it's not metallic. It sounds cleaner irl

[tulip rapids]

deep clack fluxes and tikkens are a solid choice right now

[sacred elm]

I can't record a sound test now, don't have a mic for it, but DC Fluxes sound and feel very nice.

Both are good. Just depends which sound profile you like

[tulip rapids]

thats because it is 😭

[young lantern]

does keysnap fit on plastic 60he case?

[tulip rapids]

you know when you purchase items most of the time you have a 30 day return window right?

future tip

look up return policy of products that you're interested in before buying

life is a risk

either do it or not

youre making up all these excuses already before even having any new switches

[nova radish]

The matte cerakeys have a nice soft-touch velvety texture - not sure about the glossy ones though.
They feel similar pom jelly keycaps but sound way better. No regrets.

blank white matte v3 cerakeys, acrylic tofu, jade max

[tulip rapids]

yeah spending the money isnt the issue here

[sacred elm]

No, there should be cheaper listings

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

It's $1/pc

Get other switches then, you liked Owlabs, get them.

$110/70 is very expensive

[distant raven]

I have to say that I'm absolutely loving the looks of the white and black matte cerakey v3 keycaps that I've seen so far.

Just not sure I want to bother with anything beyond PBT.

I heard that the V2s were breaking a lot

And supposedly the v3 addressed it

But I don't own. I can't confirm.

[nova radish]

The v3 matte white ones are great from my experience. They are using a abs stem now so there aren't any fit issues. The black ones have inconsistent shine-through though and look kind of weird with rgb on. They MIGHT be less likely to break as well with the abs stems.

[distant raven]

That aligns with what I heard on the stem design.

I wasn't aware of the RGB issues. I also hate RGB, so if anyone has black matte cerakeyv3 with white symbols that they hate and want to get rid of because of RGB inconsistency, hit me up. 🙂

[nova radish]

Some people apparently had fit issues between the keys (colliding) according to youtube videos on the v1s. I bought two sets of v3 myself and didn't encounter any with either. There is a very slight amount of variation between the keys, but it's difficult to even see it up close.
The white ones look great with rgb though.

[trail bane]

Huh https://x.com/freewheeler_/status/1983219247347007900?s=46

Freewheeler (@Freewheeler_)

SW AA HE Switch
Swagkeys Wuque Flux カスタムスイッチ
https://t.co/Duv1UbvX1Y

X · Oct 28, 2025, 5:08 PM

[trail bane]

@sacred elm

[nova radish]

The inconsistent shine-through on the v3 black matte cerakeys (look great with rgb off)

[distant raven]

See that wouldn't bother me at all. I'm an RGB curmudgeon.

[paper bloom]

Then cop 1 of them

[sacred elm]

This is recolor of DC Flux

[paper bloom]

Add aluminum foil i think itll solve it

[trail bane]

Oh ic

[paper bloom]

Or some sort of reflective tape

[sacred elm]

Kinda nice tho, I like creamy color switches

[nova radish]

You might need some sunglasses for these then
@distant raven

[distant raven]

Behold my disdain for RGB

Keyboard has RGB off too

If they had made that case with a steel panel and not a glass panel, I'd have bought that at the time too.

[young viper]

The PC yearns for color

[distant raven]

We hates it!

[paper bloom]

Why do u have 2 gpus

Aliexpress is reputable

[distant raven]

I'm a real outlier. I just like clean and uniform lines and colors on the PC. All black, all white, all grey, any are fine. But the kaleidoscope of colors isn't my thing.

[paper bloom]

I think a lcd aio cooler wld solve ur issue

What a lcd aio with it blank will legit solve it bruh

[distant raven]

That's what I'm saying: for me, there is no issue!

[paper bloom]

Yes it is safe from what i know and as far as ive used it

[young viper]

Add a single lian li infinity fan

[paper bloom]

Just check the link and check the seller if it is legit

The seller has high reviews and it isnt botter and etc

The link is officially aliexpress then

Your safe

[young viper]

I have to buy 8 of those fans... I'm gonna go broke

[paper bloom]

Buy bequiet fans e z

[robust siren]

@tropic urchin how much a custom plate cost

[young viper]

Yeah I think mine was like 300 smth, it's sitting in my Newegg cart rn

[distant raven]

I do use the double seven segment display style LED POST Q code as a Q code display during boot and a temperature display during operation but it's at the upper right of the motherboard and hidden behind that massive 420 Arctic thick radiator.

But I disabled everything else in the UEFI.

The 5090 still does dumb light....

[young viper]

I was looking at this last night lol, for a 60 I saw them being like 40 for a custom metal plate

[tropic urchin]

Depends on material, go to hypekeyboard site and go for cnc custom

[robust siren]

they do cf?

[tropic urchin]

CF is $+30 iirc

Yeah

Tom does everything

[robust siren]

hmm

very interesting

WAIT

I CANT USE KNIGHT GOLD SPACEBAR STAB

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[tropic urchin]

https://hypekeyboards.ca/products/custom-plate-cutting-service

[robust siren]

will look when i get home

[young viper]

Eek 55 for a black aluminum plate

Zamn

[robust siren]

any white split sets yet

[tropic urchin]

Join the discord and ask ig im the wrong guy for any split talk

[stoic ocean]

They do for the venom he?

[robust siren]

What do we think https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807398966945.html?

Its PBT

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[paper bloom]

Dm me the link

[distant raven]

Didn't see micarta.
I'll bet he could do it though.
I'm totally going to ask.

[tropic urchin]

He has venom as an option yeah, just make sure to include all your necessary info for your plate

[tropic urchin]

Yeah ask, chances are he probably can with enough info given

[tropic urchin]

Can’t see aliexpress link on mobile

[robust siren]

White PBT seems like the only option I got

[sacred elm]

Get Keykobo/GMK spacebar kit, I think those cheap Ali spacebars will sound like garbo

[distant raven]

Did ask. We'll see what he says.

[tropic urchin]

Could work

[tropic urchin]

This would be what I’d be afraid of @robust siren

[robust siren]

https://unikeyboards.com/en-fr/products/keykobo-motel-keycap-set?variant=49236604715326

Idk if these are neutral white

Wait kkb has a bow set

Wtf am I doing

They don’t have the 1.25u key tho

gmk bow is also missing the 1.25u key

[stoic ocean]

Venom mx and he got same plate no?

[tropic urchin]

There’s a good chance he does, but ask in his discord and he should answer pretty fast

[stoic ocean]

Do you have the link ?

For their discord

[robust siren]

Ok

Unikeys chat support said KKB Motels are a neutral white

We might be in business

[tropic urchin]

I’m going to get automodded, but if you follow the website link their discord is off on the side: https://hypekeyboards.ca/products/custom-plate-cutting-service

Once you click the 3 horizontal lines on the left side

Should have it towards the bottom

[robust siren]

@tropic urchin I’m locking in split spacebar

[tropic urchin]

Change your role traitor

Banishment

[random loom]

Is it worth voiding 3 years of warranty to paint my 80HE case

💀💀💀

[robust siren]

No I like blue

[marsh saffron]

It shouldn't void your pcb warranty no?

[robust siren]

Well actually I need to know the timeline for a cf split plate

[random loom]

I don’t think so right?

I hope not then I can go nuts with the case

[marsh saffron]

@glossy pagoda is this true or not?

Not sure how warranty deals with this

I feel like it wouldnt make the case warranty-able but the pcb should be fine right?

[stoic ocean]

what is the "thockiest" he switch i know is not like mechanical

[hollow heart]

i just have brown leds. they look brown to eye in pictures its looks lighter

[young viper]

There's no exactly "thocky" he switch, the closest you could get would be the lekker tickens because of its deep sound, your best off going to the wooting sound test website and comparing there

[stoic ocean]

And which material plate i should buy

[young viper]

How stable is the PC mount? I'm wanting to get it for mine

[hollow heart]

personally im gonnastick with the wooting plate

[hollow heart]

its super stable but it presses against the glass, lemme show u what i did

[young viper]

Pc which comes with the wooting pcb will be the deepest sounding for that thock

[hollow heart]

used these cloth things to keep pressure on the border.

[tropic urchin]

You’ll have to buy a few to see what you like best depending on the build, start with Wooting plate and see what you like/don’t like then try 1 plate softer or stiffer

[analog mulch]

anybody has a raptor v2 sound comparison vs owlab ti he with POM plate and tofu 60 redux? sorry for asking, im really trying to figure out what to buy

[young viper]

Ah okay that makes sense, how does the mount actually hook up to the desk? I didn't see any holes when I was looking yesterday except for where the leg attaches

[hollow heart]

anoying thing is it blocks a good chunck of space on my radiator, which only fits on the top of my pc

[glossy pagoda]

Painting the case does not affect the warranty on your PCBA, unless you do one of two things:
Paint the case in a way that causes damage the the PCBA when installing
Paint over the ground connection point in a case where no other connection is made to the PCBA, such as when a PCBA is friction fitted

[young viper]

Ugh I didn't even think about the radiator, I have a lian li mini v2 which I was going to put on it, thankfully it'll support a 360 on top so I shouldn't lose much

[random loom]

Alright thanks!!

[stoic ocean]

Cf and aluminium is more clacky right?

[young viper]

Yur

[tropic urchin]

I think it’ll depend ultimately if you want a soft/deep sound or more clacky tbh

[young viper]

Course I have no clue what it'd sound like with foam instead of silicone on the aluminum plates

Might sound pretty nice

[analog mulch]

soft deep sound, but before i got the geon raw he and they sound bad in my humble opinion, a little scratchy i may say

[tropic urchin]

Raptor is pretty soft so pairing it with POM will be decently quiet but slightly poppy, vs owlabs would be more clacky with some added pop

[stoic ocean]

Well i will buy my vella and build it when it comes out and after i will try some switch plate etc

[tropic urchin]

They were kinda chalky for me so I understand

[tropic urchin]

Raptor would be good, but you may encounter some instances of spring crunch (some people haven’t gotten it, but I wasn’t so lucky)

They’re not terribly expensive so might be worth the gamble to see if you get or notice it

[analog mulch]

Ok thank you for the help! Since i was looking for something more quiet its nice!

[tropic urchin]

Yeah it’s very quiet

Worth trying for sure if that’s what you’re after + great stability

Just unfortunate if you don’t wind up lucky with the spring crunch 🥀

[analog mulch]

do you think friction pad is worth it?

[tropic urchin]

I mainly use 80HE, but ppl seem to prefer it to tray mount so I’d say would be worth trying

[analog mulch]

ok thank you!

[distant raven]

I really do like the look of the Fractal North.

[hollow heart]

its very nice looking and super nice to build in

[distant raven]

Follow up, he seems interested. I found him a couple of supplier options and expressed willingness to custom order.

Linen Micarta Grade L (or possibly LE) HE80 custom plate may be a go.

Then I can compare it to Wooting plate(s).

He hadn't heard of micarta before.

This grade of Linen LE or L is composed of a continuous cotton woven cloth impregnated with a phenolic resin binder. This grade contains a fine weave linen and, like the canvas phenolic, is known for it's mechanical properties. The finer weave allows for machining more intricate details than Canvas, like gear teeth. This grade is not recommended for primary insulation.
L certifies to Mil-I-24768/15 FBI.
LE certifies to Mil-I-24768/13 FBE.

It's going to be somewhat similar to FR4, since it's a laminate cmoposite with resin.
But it should also be softer and less plastic clacky sounding I think.

[tropic urchin]

Oh nice!

[distant raven]

So it looks like this might happen. Granted, sound and feel is really subjective, but if he can get supply, then I'll definitely have a L, LE, or both machined by him and see how it feels/sounds to me vs. stock.

Maybe it just turns out to be an alternative to FR4 that's not really any different. Maybe it's actually better.

but it's safer to machine, since it's not fiberglass phenolic, and instead is linen phenolic

G10 certifies to Mil-I-24768/2 GEE; FR4 certifies to Mil-1-24768/27 GEE-F

[little glen]

should i get hmx crystal he or dcf

i'm leaning towards the crystal he but the housing color is concerning to me

plus idk if it has spring issues like raptor v2

[tropic urchin]

I heard @sweet oak blesses every batch for his new mango crunch HE

[sweet oak]

It is something im very happy that has been made true

[tropic urchin]

Just copy the raptor v2 bottom housing 🙃

[sweet oak]

That bad?

I mean, fantastic

[tropic urchin]

That’s for maximum crunch

(You monster)

[harsh dove]

I'm enjoying these CF Tikkens

Not bad not bad

Gotta try alu tikkens on 80he next, didn't really vibe with the alu tikkens on the Frog Mini but I feel like I also struggle with getting alu to sound right with my frog mini

probs a skill issue

[tropic urchin]

What do you have in the frog

[trail bane]

Gn

[harsh dove]

I went back to POM, I only have POM, Alu for Woot60 and I have an FR4 plate for it but only compatible with Venom 7u

[tropic urchin]

Does Wooting 60 have similar sound discrepancies like venom does atleast bc I can never get mine to not sound like Krakatoa

Might just be the yolo dampening

[tropic urchin]

I had a thought of doing something unholy and cutting out all the silicone I can and inserting the poron and leaving the silicone gaskets

[fluid ravine]

SoUnD tEsTtt

[harsh dove]

Kinda like I did but more?

[harsh dove]

I'll see

[tropic urchin]

I copied your alphas yeah on silicone

[harsh dove]

yeah I'm still rockin mine like that

[tropic urchin]

But I feel like the number keys sound different and worse for it

[harsh dove]

nothing for the alphas rn

[tropic urchin]

But now after going full poron I feel like it helps with maintaining my marbly clack build

Wanted to get rigidity and sound of poron

[sacred elm]

@harsh dove Do you use 60v2 PET film?

[tropic urchin]

Yes

[harsh dove]

Nah

[tropic urchin]

Alr bud

[harsh dove]

alr bud

I have tape mod on my 80he tho

none on my 60s

[sacred elm]

not a tape mod

I mean the transparent thingie that goes on top of the PCB

[harsh dove]

Ohhh those

nah

[tropic urchin]

Do I try OG flux on Pom plate poron pad

[harsh dove]

Try it

I've never done it with poron but I liked my fluxes on POM

[tropic urchin]

Silicone definitely amplified ze harshness of both

Just having it in is super noticeable

[glossy pagoda]

Air bud

[fluid ravine]

Alr bud

[fluid ravine]

Alr bud

[sacred elm]

Alr

[fluid ravine]

Bud

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/alr-there-bud-ok-alright-gif-12426319307757012147

[harsh dove]

here ya go bud

no mic filters or anything

SHURE MV7X

about 8" away from keyboard

[robust siren]

what are the chances you guys release the 60he v2 split spacebar plate files before 2026

[glossy pagoda]

50/50

Either we do or we don't

I dunno, I'll ask 😛

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-gif-20462984

[harsh dove]

Head or Tails

lol

[robust siren]

if you do ill join the 4 digit club

[robust siren]

heads

fuck it we ball

[robust siren]

ad*lthood

[harsh dove]

It was tails

I flipped again