#🔧│keyboard_modding

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warped marsh
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Ah only one is available locally

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Gg

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What makes it better than the other 2 I mentioned tho

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I heard it has a bit more wobble

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And is louder

kind helm
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louder but cleaner sound, raw has a leaky sound that is kinda speical but not everyone likes.

robust siren
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geon raws has a sticky top feeling on some switches
raptor v2s has a spring crunch issue

kind helm
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raptor v2 has design issue

warped marsh
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Raptor v1s were goated how could they mess up the new ones ):

kind helm
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idk, i guess even geon my goat messes up sometimes

robust siren
kind helm
robust siren
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pc plate

warped marsh
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I mean sound doesn't matter tbh as long as it feels better to play rhythm games on

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And it's like smooth with no insane rattle

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Like the lekkers

kind helm
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heavier spring shouldn't matter honestly unless you feel that its tiring, performance wise its cool

robust siren
warped marsh
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^ tell me this isn't some prank the switch can sound like this

calm pulsar
glacial wind
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why do your geons sound so scuffed though

glacial wind
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maybe phone is doing something funky there

robust siren
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this one should be better(?)

warped marsh
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Wat keycaps

robust siren
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pbtfan crosshairs

warped marsh
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I'm still deciding which keycaps for my 80he there's way too many options

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I also wish there was a tofu redux case for the 80

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There's some other one but it has some ugly gold strip on it

warped marsh
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Yeah

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And the gold thing on the side

robust siren
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im pretty sure you can take that off

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yeah you can

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its just screwed into the case

warped marsh
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Ah gg maybe it's worth then

robust siren
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for that gold/brass strip

warped marsh
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True I just didn't know u could take the side bit off

warped marsh
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#unknown

robust siren
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uhh actually that might just be hidden from the angle of the picture

warped marsh
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No like the thing doesn't show

robust siren
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but since you can change the color of it (buying different ones and swapping it) im gonna assume its able to be taken off

robust siren
warped marsh
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Just had to restart discord and it showed

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He got the raws too fr

robust siren
warped marsh
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It sucks most EU resellers don't wanna ship to UK anymore tho

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Like bruh I just wanna try 3 raptor switches in my keypad

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Is it that much of an ask

warped marsh
robust siren
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holy shit it’s already been a year since then wtf

warped marsh
robust siren
polar girder
robust siren
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crazy how much faster im assembling and disassembling the wooting now down to the pcb

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i think first time i ever did it, it took like 3 hours and now i can do this in 30 minutes

trail bane
glacial wind
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rumors sites saying camera announcement soon for sony @uneven cradle

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might finally be a7v time

glacial wind
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get my flux tomorrow according to dhl @sacred elm

sweet dock
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I just got Haimu Dove HE switches. They are very silent. Trying to do a comparison tomorrow, compared to Lekker V2 L60 (Wooting 80HE with zinc alloy case). They are even more silent then Logitech MX Keys S keyboard. I am very satisfied

glacial wind
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Identical dampening to mathew.

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It’s dampened but using plastic zig zag bouncy thing on stems

fringe quarry
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gotta open one up

tropic urchin
robust siren
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send me the rest S11Catnod

trail bane
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downvote Sign for the waiting list

tropic urchin
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As the high bishop of the flux church, what have you suffered to gain entry @robust siren smile

sacred elm
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Feel free to join Flux church

robust siren
tropic urchin
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And throw some salt over your shoulder to ward off Gateron

glacial wind
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flux needs a good name if you want to start a church

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can't be going around calling yourself the flu flu church

sacred elm
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Sadly only two people

robust siren
glacial wind
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that's what poor church naming does

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the name is the most important part

tropic urchin
tropic urchin
glacial wind
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i tried to think of some flux names but they all sound bad

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the fluxy church

tropic urchin
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It should be the flex church

tropic urchin
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But with prices coming down the flex is less so

glacial wind
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oh i know

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the flux fam

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see you should have gone with the flux fam

tropic urchin
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Sno all in on Gen Z flux church huh

glacial wind
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i'm helping write the script for the 60he v2 launch video, this is all part of my market research

tropic urchin
tidal frigate
sacred elm
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No you won't

glacial wind
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how did takmon get an image of the flux magnetic range test though

tidal frigate
sacred elm
tidal frigate
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Wait

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You are helping writing script?

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Wait..

languid kestrel
tidal frigate
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Launch video will be like in next month

tropic urchin
chilly mural
sacred elm
tidal frigate
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Recording video for calder is like two days max

glacial wind
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lol writing script means nothing, we have scripts for videos from 3 months ago that aren't public

trail bane
tropic urchin
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Ah yes the duhuk 2 week hype

glacial wind
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it's still funny how fast the duhuk hype came and went

trail bane
tropic urchin
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The main duhuk user gets banned and nobody talks about it until frankenswitching it with raw stem happened

sacred elm
tropic urchin
glacial wind
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literally just random pushed by small group of people for 1-2 weeks then everyone hated the top out and no one outside of that group bought em

austere creek
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michael jackson?

chilly mural
tropic urchin
jade prairie
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man I aim so much better with raiden than my slow as shit glass pad

calm pulsar
tropic urchin
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true

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the rage bait was good content

humble surge
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Vare do you have Flux yourself btw?

chilly mural
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Fluxing

chilly mural
trail bane
calm pulsar
chilly mural
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nah, I let you guys do the qc test in the meantime

trail bane
calm pulsar
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then at some point sno talked to him and persuaded him to be an uwu version of himself

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but that didnt last long

calm pulsar
trail bane
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1 Week without gmkFeelsHorribleMan

sacred elm
trail bane
tropic urchin
chilly mural
calm pulsar
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added to wishlist of ideasdogekek

humble surge
sacred elm
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Yes

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He has regular Fluxes rn

tropic urchin
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i was there day 5

humble surge
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Nice okay

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I'll ask some more then when the time comes, ty ^^

sacred elm
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I have them since April 7COFFEE

glacial wind
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More importantly though is my manfrotto autopole and friction arm with camera attachment is coming tomorrow

glacial wind
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oh my mistake, you need the buy link

sacred elm
glacial wind
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i'd recommend the 244n manfrotto friction arm too, and you'll need a 035 superclamp to go with it

tropic urchin
sacred elm
glacial wind
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so not worry, no pizza here. Only the industry leading friction arms

sweet oak
flat cobalt
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DCS GG is up

reef oar
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@sacred elm finally shipped mine, ig bc i bundled something else so they had to go grab that. you'll be finding out whether we get fluxes or bluxes first

sacred elm
reef oar
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nah there's no way

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i looked at the store reviews and no one else got fakes

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just they send like 1 switch short a few times

sacred elm
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Yeah, we're fine

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Surely...

reef oar
tropic urchin
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idk they should identical to regular but just bink

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havent gotten scammed on aliexpress yet

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besides with the 2 week shipping time

chilly mural
tropic urchin
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2 weeks is a great time to window shop yk

chilly mural
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ngl, my country online store needs to go faster

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tiktok shop already beating them out but it's tiktok

stoic ocean
trail bane
leaden cedar
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Does anyone have a HE Switch recommendation where the switch is fully white/transparent, and makes deeper/thockier sounds

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Also, thoughts on the raw geon he, and magnetic jade air/max?

sacred elm
reef oar
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those jades suck

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fuck the rgbs and get pros

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they are legendary

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or just get raws

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the raws are probably what you're looking for

sacred elm
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No, Raw isn't what they're looking for. It's the opposite of "thock" lol

reef oar
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we just determined that doesn't exist

sacred elm
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Yes, but at least recommend something that is on deeper side

reef oar
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i'm sure they can sound deeper depending on the case and plate

robust siren
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try the mmd c1s pepe_yes

reef oar
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i was just said raws bc they clearly want transparent or translucent, i have no idea what the ice ultras are like in terms of sound

robust siren
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ice ultras are deeper raws and imo so are the c1s

reef oar
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damn and they're also literally pennies

trail bane
reef oar
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fuck it get those

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i think the case is closed on ice ultras

leaden cedar
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lol

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I just wanted something that matches white and is a bit deeper

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like ik you can't see switches but they're in the back of my mind

trail bane
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TTC my beloved

sacred elm
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Also dirt cheap

leaden cedar
ionic breach
leaden cedar
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sorry one more thing, I wanted to swap out the springs for heavier ones, around 70
How do I know which springs are compatible?

sacred elm
leaden cedar
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How can I double check that for the future

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like for other springs

sacred elm
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You need HE compatible 6.1mm diameter springs

leaden cedar
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ok tysm

ionic breach
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damn this the cleanest thing ive seen all year

reef oar
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with some miami keycaps

trail bane
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Ayo, Which emotion should I use for the fact that the Gateron switches, for which I paid $4 for shipping, will arrive tomorrow, while the GMK set, for which I paid around €30 for shipping, is still at the DHL warehouse. Let me remind you how the switches were traveling to me

uneven cradle
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It be like that

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I purchased a keyboard last year in June/July it was supposed to come in q1 this year and has now been delayed once again Despairage

trail bane
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Let me count how much distance this package has traveled

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Ts sound crazy asf

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≈23200kmsmile

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Referring to the map, tracking updates, and the fact that I’m in Poland

thorn zealot
tropic urchin
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Then you can wait until 2029 with hopper

tired prawn
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Anyone know where to sell used switches/cases?

tropic urchin
thorn zealot
tropic urchin
thorn zealot
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also that thing ugly

tidal frigate
tropic urchin
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You weren’t born yet to truly appreciate large bezels

trail bane
thorn zealot
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how dare u interrupt my edpuzzle assignment

tropic urchin
polar girder
cloud pivot
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wsg any recent interesting developments in rubber dome he yet

thorn zealot
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but i might be plannin to get an ec pcb for my agar

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since ur a rubber dome man

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what should i be lookin for

cloud pivot
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no idea i been riding on tecsee gel pads (tactile variant) for like 6 months now

fallen pecan
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rakka atlas chart topper

chilly mural
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Nice nice

glacial wind
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ah the switch gods are trying to save me from flux it seems

chilly mural
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So far only 2 keeb match woot release latency

glacial wind
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package got slowed down for id clearance

chilly mural
fallen pecan
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the test board wasnt using 0.05mm, only 0.1

glacial wind
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rakka isn't in the super low silly settings group. they even made a blog about it

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just makes your keyboard actually worse in real usage so they never did it

uneven cradle
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Madlion clears it has 0.02mm

chilly mural
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Cant wait to see woot with 0.1mm

calm pulsar
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just change values in web ui to whatever you want

trail bane
regal patio
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Hi is there a good deep sounding switch for the wooting?

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I atm use the jade pro's but I built the wooting 80he in February so I think the switches are kinda outdated on my board

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I don't care if the switch is bad for gaming cuz I don't even use my wooting 80he for gaming

trail bane
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Also getting those "tactile" switches from Lateron + couple of Gat Type R

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+- in an hour and they will be with me

tidal frigate
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They have harder domes

chilly mural
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And it's brown, my fav color for a switch

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Chocy milk ah color

trail bane
fluid ravine
chilly mural
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If it fixes the issue, my dream of 60% board with rubberdome will live

tidal frigate
chilly mural
trail bane
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Looks very nice

trail bane
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Looks like Box Kailhs killed my understanding of the structure of tactile switchessmile

thorny totem
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is the lubricant any good, I just bought an 80HE but have my own lubricant.

paper bison
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The stock lube job is more than servicable, majority of people who buy a board from Wooting don't have the lube or know how to do it (gamers), so they make it good enough for those people

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Nothing stopping you from doing it yourself if you think it could be better though

chilly mural
tawdry tree
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preorders start 1st of october in japan

calm pulsar
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stepped caps too

tawdry tree
chilly mural
tawdry tree
tawdry tree
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lemme check

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ah yeah, $150 w/o switches

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$190 with

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not bad

chilly mural
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Damn

calm pulsar
chilly mural
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Okay right on my expected cost

tawdry tree
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that ship internationally too if you ask*

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🆕【予約販売決定】
RAKKA 60 ATLAS、ついに登場⚡

予約開始:10月1日〜
お届け予定:11月中旬〜下旬を予定。
※生産状況により前後する場合がございます。

販売価格
・PCBA SET:¥21,800
・PCBA SET + スイッチ付き:¥29,800
商品詳細は近日公開予定📝

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got my hm from there too

calm pulsar
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would’ve been cool to pick it up when im in China in november, but maybe it will be available on aliexpress like rakka 80 eventually

tawdry tree
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rakka will sell it themselves internationally too

steady halo
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yeayy

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new pics

calm pulsar
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we are so back

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(from MX dogekek)

steady halo
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HAHAHA

trail bane
steady halo
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i hate the plate tho

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plate mount stabs

trail bane
calm pulsar
calm pulsar
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both 60% and a 80he

chilly mural
tawdry tree
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includes a plate but there might be different plates available

tawdry tree
trail bane
trail bane
# trail bane Looks very nice

Quick revision:
as expected Gateron Type R is my new favourite mx switch
Gateron Jade emerald is mediocre as all other HE releases from gateron

calm pulsar
glacial wind
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Hrm so about $200 for the pcb module set

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Wooting stream today btw. Any topics you’d like us to cover? (no leaks)

uneven cradle
trail bane
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I need 50 more asap, they so damn good, even when they are in cheap ass board like this

calm pulsar
# trail bane

sounds nice and clean in this board, but I bet the tactility in them feels nice too

trail bane
sacred elm
glacial wind
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That’s a given

calm pulsar
noble turret
glacial wind
noble turret
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What or how many orders would it make it worthwhile for you guys to do it

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Cause I understand it’s quite the mold investment

glacial wind
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If you order 20k units Calder may be convinced

noble turret
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But could it be a kickstarter to not commit to it before wooting is guaranteed it will be worthwhile?

glacial wind
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I forget what the number Calder gave before was on stream, but was it 50-100k investment just to get the molds done for these?

noble turret
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Yep would that be something they’d be okay speaking in stream?

uneven cradle
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100k I believe off memory for the molds

glacial wind
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Well mostly me and sander don’t have any control of that so asking us doesn’t get anywhere but we can talk about it

chilly mural
tawdry tree
glacial wind
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that's not how it works.

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making an entire language set is different from expanding a mold you already plan to make with an extra key

tawdry tree
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I still can’t believe they actually did that

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how many spacebars did they even add?

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6.25 and the splits presumably?

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💀

glacial wind
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adding an extra key isn't too hard if you already have something planned, but doing an entirely new set is a different cost. Speaking of which there is an interesting modding keycap set topic to discuss in todays stream because we need feedback on potential keys people would like to have

tawdry tree
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one or three new molds for spacebars?

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it’s not so much about the new bars but the reason behind it lol

glacial wind
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yeah no one in here is crazy enough to want to debate you on what you believe is popular or required

tawdry tree
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defend it sno 😭

glacial wind
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nah i'm good

tawdry tree
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I hope mark was just trolling with all that

noble turret
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Haha no worries i totally get it if you never produce spanish iso keycaps but if you could pass on what if it was on a kickstarter basis for less used or commercialised keycaps set so you only produce if you get the ROI that you need

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doesn’t need to be a full set either, i’d be glad to buy the nordic set plus the different keys which are rather minor for instance

sacred elm
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@glacial wind so deep clackies not today? SwitchyTired

noble turret
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All green keys here in nordic layout is 100% match to Spanish ISO whereas the yellow are good enough so it’s only 8 keycaps that would definitely need a mold

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I’m sure the same happens with other languages layouts

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But again no hard feelings if nothing happens, totally get how ROI works XD

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It’s our fault for not having a standardised spanish layout amongst the over 500 million native spanish speakers in the world

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XD

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we should really have a standardised layout for portuguese and spanish and make that 800 mill

chilly mural
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Ceramic HE

little glen
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ugly HE

chilly mural
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be nice

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Unless the QC is ass

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or they make the sensor only accept their own switch

tawdry tree
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TMR Hall Effect switches 🗣️🗣️🗣️

calm pulsar
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"unbreakable & incredibly thocky" when will this stop😭

little glen
little glen
tawdry tree
little glen
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fuck my stupid thocky life

tawdry tree
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if that’s not proof enough, idk what is

calm pulsar
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Ceramic Magnetic PBT Thock Effect Switch

chilly mural
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nice, collected $250. The universe congratulated me by showing GOLD GOLD GOLD (lit, the sky is gold, my noodle is gold, and my drink is gold).

steady halo
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i can't wait

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for

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atlas

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but their db is kinda weird

chilly mural
glacial wind
calm pulsar
steady halo
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it's kinda weird

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i want to know more deeper

calm pulsar
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the one on the left looks like it's the same type as on venom

steady halo
calm pulsar
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you replace that depending on whether you want gh60 or db usage

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I assume

steady halo
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like, is the cable a fix thing?
is it possible to change the cable if the cable is broken(?)

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or change the cable length

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idk

calm pulsar
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yeah seems like a valid concern
I'd think the cable length on the render is not the actual length

steady halo
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for it

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but it looks very nice

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finally stepped caps on 60% HE

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$150 for kit with warranty (i hope they still keep the warranty) is kinda nice

tawdry tree
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there isn’t any JST connector on the PCB itself

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so that USB-C replacement board or whatever you call it is the only way

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not sure if it’s a good or bad thing

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the fact that the cables come out of it vertically is also a bit odd

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considering it’s an already thick PCB

tawdry tree
chilly mural
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ASS, noice

stoic ocean
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Anyone know how i can buy from taobao to France

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
stoic ocean
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they can deliver to a relay point?

sacred elm
tawdry tree
stoic ocean
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instead of having it delivered to my home, I have it delivered to a locker or a store. Doesn't that exist where you live?

tawdry tree
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they just ship it to an address, so doesn’t matter where that is

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
stoic ocean
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Yes

austere creek
tawdry tree
tawdry tree
stoic ocean
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What is the best site to order from Taobao to France please?

tawdry tree
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or whatever it’s called

austere creek
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PO Box?

tawdry tree
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yeah

austere creek
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those would just have a normal address with an additional address line specifying it

tawdry tree
austere creek
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like a reshipper basically

stoic ocean
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Thx @tawdry tree bro

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i was looking for the mk60 looks very cool

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
stoic ocean
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yes

flat cobalt
tawdry tree
tawdry tree
stoic ocean
tawdry tree
stoic ocean
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White ,grey Orange, and black and special one gold and red the gold one have spiral bottom but more than 200€

stoic ocean
tawdry tree
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ah, yeah. the case only for $100 or so from tb

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kinda expensive ngl

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after shipping $130 maybe

paper bison
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yall think i can salvage the wooting tape mod and put it on a replacement pcb?

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i wanna keep it for a holy80 bc hollow bottom

paper bison
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bet

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replacing it rn

halcyon flax
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What cover does this mean exactly guys

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Does this come below pcb or the bottom of the whole case

robust siren
sacred elm
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Most likely sits on the bottom case

halcyon flax
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Thanks a lot

ionic breach
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that one that says internal

halcyon flax
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The pc plate broke so idk if this helps

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Near one of the screws

robust siren
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thats an entirely different thing

halcyon flax
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Not my pcb

ionic breach
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that cover isnt a plate

halcyon flax
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Well does it help with the stress near the screws and stuff?

ionic breach
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i cant say it does

robust siren
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tho idk if wooting sells replacement plates for the 80he

halcyon flax
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Let’s see

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I will send a photo later

robust siren
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youre talking about this

ionic breach
sacred elm
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If your 80HE plate got damaged, reach out to Wooting for a replacement plate https://wooting.io/support

ionic breach
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cos its top mount

halcyon flax
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The plastic one

halcyon flax
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It’s screwed I think and one of the edges is broken

ionic breach
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the one above your pcb yes?

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probably just contact kbdfans

robust siren
halcyon flax
sacred elm
languid kestrel
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if you are in the EU you have 2 year warranty

halcyon flax
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Alrighty

trail bane
languid kestrel
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that's the law

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if they choose not to obey it then enforcing that is going to be tough

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but technically, legally, they are obligated to provide warranty for any sold-as-new good or item for no less than 2 years

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applies to anyone who wants to do business in the EU

halcyon flax
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I was in uk when I bought it

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Then relocated so does that apply?

languid kestrel
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you would need to check the UK warranty law in that case

tawdry tree
languid kestrel
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yes but it does not matter who or what it's from

halcyon flax
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Alright I will check it out

tawdry tree
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it’s only for companies located in the EU

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not for Chinese companies

languid kestrel
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I don't think so

tawdry tree
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though, KBD has good support afaik so you can probably get it resolved

tawdry tree
languid kestrel
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if you do business here (sell to people here) then you have to comply by trade rules of here

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same reason I can't mail you weed even if I did it from NL

tawdry tree
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you can buy from a reseller within the EU

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that way you would get the warranty

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reseller/vendor

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alix upholds it iirc

languid kestrel
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However, if you buy from a non-EU online trader who has specifically targeted EU consumers you should also be covered by EU rules

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"specifically targeted EU consumers" clearly is something to be interpreted very loosely – but if their webshop takes a european address with no qualms then it's safe to say they are targeting EU consumers as much as any other consumer

tawdry tree
languid kestrel
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let's just say, if you buy your item from a chinese website, written in chinese, that only takes chinese addresses, then clearly you can't claim european warranty

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but if they are a company in china with an english webshop clearly selling to western audience, quite obvious in my eyes they are "targeting EU consumers"

tawdry tree
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it’d be nice if that were the case but what I read kind of conflicts with this

languid kestrel
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problem is of course enforcement, there's no way to make them to come to court here if you wanted to challenge their claim of no warranty

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so, in effect, your mileage may vary

tawdry tree
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it stated something like when a company has a presence in the UE, then that’d be your right.

languid kestrel
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yeah that will automatically make it unambiguous

tawdry tree
languid kestrel
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just in this case where they don't have a presence here, but are still selling to customers here, it would be considered "targeting EU consumers" and subject to same rules I feel

tawdry tree
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could be, a bit odd they don’t give an example in that page

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for what exactly they mean

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normally they do that right?

languid kestrel
#

I think it's because there's no body or agency or otherwise capable of enforcing it anyway

high storm
#

does anyone know what the most obnoxiously clicky switches are available?

high storm
tawdry tree
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not exactly much choice but either the Glorious ones or the Outemu ones.

fringe quarry
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finally some good questions

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ordered freyas from geon 😔

tawdry tree
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Or if you really want the most obnoxious ones, then the Jades with a click leaf from the Melodics (you’ll have to open each one up and take the click leaf from one [the Melodics] and put it in the other [Jades]).

high storm
tawdry tree
high storm
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anything honestly

tawdry tree
#

If you just want loud, Fluxes are pretty good and they aren’t that expensive anymore.

high storm
sacred elm
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@tropic urchin another Flux rec, this is not a dream!

tropic urchin
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im getting kinda tired of plastic plate tho

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hoping deep clack is the FR4 champ switch

sacred elm
tawdry tree
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copper

tropic urchin
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hmm

tawdry tree
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or brass

tropic urchin
#

brass kinda wild

tawdry tree
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thanks dear

tawdry tree
tropic urchin
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ive only heard it with jade maxes and it was weird

trail bane
#

Copper is WW

reef oar
narrow jolt
#

Hi everyone!

I heard you guys know keyboards really well!

Does my Wooting 80HE sounds good?

MIC: DEVINE M-MIC.

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Got it out of the box since yesterday :).

trail bane
narrow jolt
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Or?

humble surge
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It sounds great

paper bison
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one of my owlabs developed a crunch 💔

left depot
robust siren
tropic urchin
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wait owlabs are crunchy too? we really cant have anything nice in this life

humble surge
#

wots wrong with crunche

tropic urchin
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we are truly cursed

paper bison
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i might have to get new switches

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i was really starting to like the owlabs too woecry

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should just get some lateron lades

tropic urchin
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id rather use crunchy raptors or owlabs over going back to jades

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stem wobble 🥀

reef oar
paper bison
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i do kinda wanna replace my owlabs soon, I like them but they're only a few months old and starting to crunch, and I've handlubed them before woecry it's rubbing on the stem housing

sacred elm
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Fluxes for that price is a steal, just saying SwitchyComfy

reef oar
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jade pros would never let you down

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they're loyal

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i haven't found a single video of deep clacky fluxes yet btw, i can only find default skin fluxes

paper bison
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plus I haven't heard a decent sound test of the deep clackys

glacial wind
sacred elm
glacial wind
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My deep flux do arrive tomorrow though so I can add them to the soundtests I’m doing next week

glacial wind
#

I do want to see if Wuque plan to update official pricing too

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it’s a bit weird if vendors are selling for 1/3 the price vs them

reef oar
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how are they not operating at a loss selling it at that price

sacred elm
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They might release spring packs too, I asked them yesterday

glacial wind
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But that’s just total guess

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but Wuque really need to lower their official pricing if more vendors start popping up for this low pricing

paper bison
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either that or they're giga fake clones

sacred elm
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🤷‍♂️

reef oar
sacred elm
glacial wind
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Yeah I feel it’s them buying via factory leak where it’s made by same factory but not officially or via reselling from China hobby shops that got them cheap somehow

reef oar
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possibly, i read they're made by a different factory i think

sacred elm
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His stem wobble rating is weird, should be higher

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Stem barely moves when you bottom out

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And it feels consistent throughout the press

paper bison
#

depending on jed's sound test i might order some

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and if the price goes up lmao

trail bane
#

GMK Tiramisu is finally in Poland, somewhere in Robakowo(around 100-200 km from me)blobaww

trail bane
lofty fox
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this'll work well with raws, right?

sacred elm
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Correct

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You might not even need stem spacers.

lofty fox
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wait how

glacial wind
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he just means not everyone runs into the wobble issue

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if you don't mind spending the extra for spacers in the case that you need it then it's fine, but yeah not everyone runs into the issue with every switch/keycap combo

paper bison
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youd rather have them and not need them than vice versa

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preorder 80he

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can't get it

sacred elm
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It's 80HE founders campaign role.

paper bison
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60he v2 role incoming

tropic urchin
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@sacred elm need deep clack

lofty fox
sacred elm
sacred elm
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Most of the time happens if you have very cheap keycaps.

lofty fox
gray vapor
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Are Ws flux the GOAT at this point?

sacred elm
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Currently they're cheap on AliExpress though.

gray vapor
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How is the stem wobble? Seeing mixed reviews some people saying none and some saying there is actually a bit

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I am using lekker/raptor v1 Frankenswitches which have almost zero wobble

gray vapor
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But sound is not good and the feel is meh

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I am tempted, hoping the person above posts a deep version sound test to see if that’s worth it

sacred elm
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Sno should receive them tomorrow, so wait for the proper sound test.

tropic urchin
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They’re slightly better top wobble than TTC POM only due to smaller stem (octagonal vs large box) and has similar bottom from my experience

sacred elm
tropic urchin
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If they stay $1 per switch I think they’re great value in the current meta

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Only switch I’ve gone back to time and time again

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Raptors are better top wobble but they crunchy bois 🥀

gray vapor
#

Thanks! This is good information

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I got some new keycaps (GMK Prussian blue) so I figured may as well just freshen the whole board up

stark osprey
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And my Raptor V2s stay flawless Wink

tropic urchin
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That being said I think maybe deep black WASD would be beneficial if you do notice any on your movement keys

sacred elm
tropic urchin
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I think it should feel/sound similar @stark osprey

gray vapor
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That’s super helpful. Sounds like slight stem feel upgrade and definitely sound upgrade to go from those to flux

tropic urchin
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I’ll give it a try to see how it feels on alu whenever it arrives

stark osprey
tropic urchin
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And sometimes on S but it wasn’t always happening

sacred elm
tropic urchin
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After like 3 days it started

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If deep clack removes some of the high pitch/harshness it’s going to be S tier for my build

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A louder raptor v2 would go hard

gray vapor
tropic urchin
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Yeah it’s very good on bottom stability. As long as it’s not a huge box I can live with the top wobble

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Raptors fumbled at the goal line tho with those springs/design

stark osprey
tropic urchin
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And I replaced my stock springs for those and same issue

sacred elm
#

Replacing springs won't help yeah, it's a design issue.

stark osprey
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Gotcha wow, how unfortunate.

tropic urchin
sacred elm
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Very unfortunate for me, because I replaced springs on 70 Raptors

tropic urchin
#

Deep clack on salt lake FR4 plate 🥶

sacred elm
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😳

tropic urchin
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Will try CF too

sage flicker
#

wooting ortholinear KB, wen

sacred elm
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I need 60v2 with deep clackies NOW 🤬

tropic urchin
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@tawdry tree are you going to become a deep clack church attender?

sacred elm
trail bane
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@glacial wind can you share how well your Gat tactile were lubed?

glacial wind
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Light factory lube

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Pretty standard gateron level lubing

trail bane
glacial wind
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I don’t think you can fix the sound of tactile jade

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That chattery sound you’re trying to remove comes from the tactile bit I’m pretty sure

trail bane
#

They sucks as I expectedsmile

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At least I spent only $10 so

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Type R’s are saving this order, they’re sooo nice

fluid ravine
#

Fluxies successfully sold on reddit

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+$65

sacred elm
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Now get deep clackies smile

upbeat cloak
#

whats up with everything talking about deep clacks lately

robust siren
upbeat cloak
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2 dollar per switch damn

fluid ravine
#

i gave bro a $0.10 discount per switch

trail bane
fluid ravine
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So i sold mine to bro for $65 with shipping

glacial wind
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Considering you got it free that’s a nice deal lol

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I’m still very confused about what the deal is with this suddenly cheap flux listings

tropic urchin
#

Gods gift to marbly clack church

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You can only get shafted so many times before the universe throws you some red meat

robust siren
tropic urchin
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Imagine everyone has spring crunch lmao

fluid ravine
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lmao

robust siren
#

if c1s develop a crunch im moving to ice ultras

fluid ravine
#

bro went pass my house 4 times

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dipped my neighborhood and went to who knows what

night atlas
tropic urchin
tropic urchin
sacred elm
tropic urchin
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What happens is you’ll feel the spring bottoming out and it’ll feel crunchy and weird

sacred elm
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Switches will eventually develop "crunch", because the spring isn't secured properly

tropic urchin
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Doesn’t always happen, but it’s found a way to happen every 1-2 days it’s very annoying

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I swapped with my TTC Pom as well and happened still

night atlas
#

Ahhh gotcha

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Wonder what specifically it is

tropic urchin
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Ideally if you don’t play OSU, and switch swap WASD you’ll never have the issue

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Or maybe you’ll be lucky

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And have no spring crunch

sacred elm
#

Switches are very tight though and so cheap, overall not bad.

#

but the crunching issue sucks

tropic urchin
#

The switches are cheap enough it’s worth the gamble @night atlas

night atlas
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damn i assume even w/lube the spring crunch is still persistent?

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considering y'all prob have tried that alr

sacred elm
fluid ravine
#

what switches we talking about here

sacred elm
fluid ravine
#

ah

night atlas
#

oh damn

glacial wind
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Keep in mind though that this isn’t everyone with them

night atlas
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and there's no compatible springs for general sale too huh:?

glacial wind
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So we warn people about them but the majority of people do not experience the spring issue

night atlas
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Ya, every product will have QC issues

#

is it something that comes w/switch use or do some just straight up come out like that

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it seemed implied that it was through use? to me at least

glacial wind
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For example there’s maybe a couple reports on geon discord and a few here but everyone else can’t even get it to happen at all

upbeat cloak
#

oof

night atlas
#

eh not a big deal for me, esp considering the price

glacial wind
night atlas
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i c i c

glacial wind
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So for example heavy repetitive fast presses like osu seem to trigger it more

night atlas
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yea, i should be fine considering i'm an FPS guy anyway

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thanks for the insight tho, still good to know

glacial wind
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The main thing is if you’re ordering them I’d buy a few extra so you can swap if you have it happen

sacred elm
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Yeah, idk. Some of my raptors developed crunch after typing. I'm unlucky I guess.

night atlas
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alwaysss

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I usually get 70 (unless they're sold by 12s) for my 60he

tropic urchin
sacred elm
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It happened on my WASD keys and then randomly on my E and J keys

glacial wind
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I believe both me and ponz had them in our 80he for weeks of daily use and couldn’t replicate the crunch happening - so it’s very random and hard to pin down what causes it

robust siren
tropic urchin
robust siren
#

real

night atlas
glacial wind
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And checking the geon reviews in Korea it seems very low incidence rate too because the reviews are still very high here with no mentions of crunch

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so it’s just a bit of a weird one where a small percentage of people will experience the issue and we can’t figure out exactly why

tropic urchin
#

Divinikey shipments toast

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Time to order from EU

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@sacred elm W or L

sacred elm
glacial wind
#

I still really want to know if these cheap flux are factory leaks or not

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Because it’s a known thing that happens in China, but we have no idea if that’s the case here or something else caused this listings price to be low

tropic urchin
#

Ig it should be easy to verify authenticity

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With regulars to compare to

glacial wind
#

Well not really because factory leaks are real products

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They’re exactly the same as the real product sometimes and can even be made in same factory, but unauthorised

tropic urchin
#

They’re just Flux and not WS Flux SwitchyActually

glacial wind
#

So from a buyers perspective they may very well be the same product as a Wuque sold flux for example even if they’re factory leaks

tropic urchin
#

Well if @tawdry tree scammed me I’ll be sneaking his OW60

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And replacing it with a GT60

glacial wind
#

just that a factory made a batch they weren’t authorised to and sold it for cheap - not saying that happened here of course but that’s how factory leak stuff works at times

sacred elm
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We will all blame aligner so that's fine

tropic urchin
#

Then he can get more keycap sets

sacred elm
#

I'll take that.

tropic urchin
night atlas
#

I have a connection so I'm getting free shipping haha

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so i esp can't complain

tropic urchin
#

100%

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Worst case they wind up in a jar or they’re BIS switches for you so

night atlas
#

what's BIS?:

glacial wind
#

Best in slot

tropic urchin
#

Or your endgame

night atlas
#

Ahhhhh gotcha

tropic urchin
#

They were really nice for me up until they ended up crunching

night atlas
#

I legit thought there was a new brand/brand i haven't heard of lmao

sacred elm
#

They're fine but not a fan of the sound

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soulless

tropic urchin
#

I’m not that plugged in unfortunately

night atlas
#

almost googled BIS Switches HE

tropic urchin
#

Wait who said that

sacred elm
#

I was told deep clackies are dead on PC, so it's getting retired 🫡

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You served well flopping fish plate SwitchySalute

robust siren
#

im gonna keep using mmd c1s on pc angrymelcat

tropic urchin
#

Two for double the fingers

robust siren
#

double the punches for you

gray vapor
tropic urchin
#

CF is usually good, mostly depends on what you’re running (steel or PC plate)

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FR4/alu too are good options

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If you have steel and like the stiffness, but not the metal sound CF would be your pick

gray vapor
#

I forget which one came with the wooting 60 regular. I also got a he+ but that one is steel right?

tropic urchin
#

Did you get prebuilt or module

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Module has PC iirc

gray vapor
#

Prebuilt for the regular (which is the board I am using now) and then module for the he+

gray vapor
#

So will be those

sacred elm
gray vapor
#

2nd board will eventually have owlab ti

sacred elm
tawdry tree
gray vapor
tropic urchin
ionic breach
#

just curious

gray vapor
sacred elm
ionic breach
#

LOL

robust siren
tropic urchin
gray vapor
#

I am confused haha

tropic urchin
#

It’s happening

#

The Convergence 👀

sacred elm
robust siren
gray vapor
#

Oh hahah that’s funny

sacred elm
#

Oh so you bought regular fluxes

gray vapor
#

Yeah I didn’t like the sound of the deep ones as much

sacred elm
#

I like their sound on PC plate, but varedis hates it I think

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It's all preference

fluid ravine
robust siren
fluid ravine
#

HAHAHA

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OH SHIT IT IS YOUUUU

#

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

fluid ravine
#

ap_3? @gray vapor

gray vapor
fluid ravine
#

wait that's hilarious

gray vapor
#

I have ow60 in the box still but this is the one the flux will go on. With GMK Prussian blue

tawdry tree
# sacred elm WHAT

there’s no good way to objectively measure wobble yet so it’s somewhat fair, his opinion is wrong though. dogekek

gray vapor
#

Planning owlab ti with this key set (GMK micticlan) on the ow60

sacred elm
robust siren
fluid ravine
#

im waiting on my k11 right now

robust siren
#

am looking at thocksons reddit posts kek

fluid ravine
#

but amazon is edging the absolute fuck out of me

fluid ravine
#

ay

#

ay

#

why you stalking

gray vapor
sacred elm
tropic urchin
robust siren
#

trust

gray vapor
ionic breach
#

owlab with owlab

tropic urchin
#

Yuge

gray vapor
#

But that white plate is PC right?

robust siren
#

(we are still like 2 months out) kek

gray vapor
#

I haven’t taken this board apart in a while

sacred elm
gray vapor
#

Do we think the PC or steel will sound good with flux?

sacred elm
#

PC

fluid ravine
#

PC

gray vapor
#

Ok I’ll stick with the PC then

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Thanks!

sacred elm
#

Steel is the loudest and very metallic sounding plate

fluid ravine
#

Plastic plates are the way to go with Flux

tropic urchin
fluid ravine
#

yeah

tropic urchin
#

Even FR4 is borderline too loud

sacred elm
#

yea

gray vapor
#

Cool

fluid ravine
#

agreed

sacred elm
#

Deep clackies will be nice on metal plates

tropic urchin
#

Maybe try on PC and see how you feel

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Then go from there

gray vapor
#

I’ll try PC first since it’s already built that way. But I’ll be taking off the steel plate from other board anyways for the ow60 build so can switch if desired at that point

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I have way too many keyboards haha

sacred elm
#

You can also try other plates if you want.

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You can get PP POM FR4 ALU on AliExpress

upbeat cloak
#

should cover my keyboard in hot glue and glitter FireLightBlue

#

sand particles for extra wear on the switches

fluid ravine
#

@tropic urchin

tropic urchin
#

looking good gang

chilly mural
fluid ravine
#

just need to get a dongle dac and try more eartips now

#

am happay

tidal frigate
#

No need for big dac

fluid ravine
#

i dont like to route my iem cable to my pc

#

i rather have it on my desk

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and a physical volume control knob

chilly mural
#

I have a long 3.5mm extension going from my motherboard to under my desk

#

that could be the thing you can do

fluid ravine
#

nah im good tbh xd

chilly mural
#

but I also want to hotswap between multiple dongle dacs so I might just do long USB instead

fluid ravine
#

i've used to run my iem cable to my pc on the floor i really dont enjoy it

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i usually have my interfaces running center on the desk so it doesn't really get in the way of anything for me vnice

thorn zealot
open sapphire
#

is there any custom plate manufacturer on taobao that can drill countersink holes?

fluid ravine