#🔧│keyboard_modding
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Gg
What makes it better than the other 2 I mentioned tho
I heard it has a bit more wobble
And is louder
louder but cleaner sound, raw has a leaky sound that is kinda speical but not everyone likes.
geon raws has a sticky top feeling on some switches
raptor v2s has a spring crunch issue
raptor v2 has design issue
Raptor v1s were goated how could they mess up the new ones ):
idk, i guess even geon my goat messes up sometimes
red rgb is mmd c1, purple are raws
what case is that
I mean sound doesn't matter tbh as long as it feels better to play rhythm games on
And it's like smooth with no insane rattle
Like the lekkers
heavier spring shouldn't matter honestly unless you feel that its tiring, performance wise its cool
pc vs fr4
^ tell me this isn't some prank the switch can sound like this
hmm these sound quite nice
why do your geons sound so scuffed though

maybe phone is doing something funky there
Wat keycaps
pbtfan crosshairs
I'm still deciding which keycaps for my 80he there's way too many options
I also wish there was a tofu redux case for the 80
There's some other one but it has some ugly gold strip on it
the gt80?
Ah gg maybe it's worth then
also its not like youre looking at the bottom of the keyboard
for that gold/brass strip
True I just didn't know u could take the side bit off
#unknown
uhh actually that might just be hidden from the angle of the picture
but since you can change the color of it (buying different ones and swapping it) im gonna assume its able to be taken off
i had em
It sucks most EU resellers don't wanna ship to UK anymore tho
Like bruh I just wanna try 3 raptor switches in my keypad
Is it that much of an ask
How many different switches have u tried
i only use lekkers for a week and then raws for a year till this week i swapped to mmd c1s
holy shit it’s already been a year since then wtf

How big of a jump was it going to RAWS from the lekkers
uhhhhhh i don’t really remember much from the lekkers tbh, they were ok but not bad/not great
Exciting times
very fun 
crazy how much faster im assembling and disassembling the wooting now down to the pcb
i think first time i ever did it, it took like 3 hours and now i can do this in 30 minutes

rumors sites saying camera announcement soon for sony @uneven cradle
might finally be a7v time

I hope they are cookin
get my flux tomorrow according to dhl @sacred elm
I just got Haimu Dove HE switches. They are very silent. Trying to do a comparison tomorrow, compared to Lekker V2 L60 (Wooting 80HE with zinc alloy case). They are even more silent then Logitech MX Keys S keyboard. I am very satisfied
Identical dampening to mathew.
It’s dampened but using plastic zig zag bouncy thing on stems
gotta open one up
If you don’t like them make sure to send me 20 to complete my set 
send me the rest 
Sign for the waiting list
As the high bishop of the flux church, what have you suffered to gain entry @robust siren 
existing
am i allowed in now 
Feel free to join Flux church
my continued existence shows my dedication and endurance through this suffering 
You have to say “lowlabs, lowlabs” and do a twirl for official entry
And throw some salt over your shoulder to ward off Gateron
lowlabs, lowlabs!
flux needs a good name if you want to start a church
can't be going around calling yourself the flu flu church
Church was always there
Sadly only two people
peasant mobile user 
I have to go to the dentist on my week off, buzz off 🥀
No its what happens when you leave it off your recommended list /s
skill issue 
It should be the flex church
But with prices coming down the flex is less so
Sno all in on Gen Z flux church huh
i'm helping write the script for the 60he v2 launch video, this is all part of my market research
Negging to gain church entry bold strategy hehe
I hope so i will have easteregg there

No you won't
how did takmon get an image of the flux magnetic range test though

Surely deep clackies have perfect magnets 
ahem it's called compliant mechanism 
Launch video will be like in next month
They will having perfecting megnet
ooo, release date sooon
Well predicting wooting is quite easy
Recording video for calder is like two days max
lol writing script means nothing, we have scripts for videos from 3 months ago that aren't public
POMs VS Duhuks flashbacks
Ah yes the duhuk 2 week hype
it's still funny how fast the duhuk hype came and went
And "duhuks better" guy
The main duhuk user gets banned and nobody talks about it until frankenswitching it with raw stem happened

Cuz it was all an MJ psyop
literally just random pushed by small group of people for 1-2 weeks then everyone hated the top out and no one outside of that group bought em
michael jackson?
lmao, at least duhuk herz is there to fix it
man I aim so much better with raiden than my slow as shit glass pad
mj my man... I miss him
Vare do you have Flux yourself btw?
Fluxing
I remember the day, '60hz is all you need'

go flux yourself (buy fluxes)
nah, I let you guys do the qc test in the meantime
I last talked to him back then, I won’t attach screenshots since it’s just criticism and aggressive hot takes
yeah that's how he was on wooting discord too
then at some point sno talked to him and persuaded him to be an uwu version of himself
but that didnt last long
Also how he got banned
iirc he just left
Very, very unpleasant words and actions
1 Week without gmk
No, he got banned
≈$30 shipping btw
you should add window shopper as your title 
Good idea, i put it on later
added to wishlist of ideas
@tropic urchin Sir Clippy?
More importantly though is my manfrotto autopole and friction arm with camera attachment is coming tomorrow
you better buy one for your sony camera mounting needs too shafie: https://www.manfrotto.com/global/autopole-2-2-1-3-7m-432-3-7/
oh my mistake, you need the buy link

i'd recommend the 244n manfrotto friction arm too, and you'll need a 035 superclamp to go with it
either before or same time as you
you can buy the friction arm before him if you hurry https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/325444-REG/Manfrotto_244N_244N_Variable_Friction_Magic.html
i dont like pizza
so not worry, no pizza here. Only the industry leading friction arms
Instagram sucks but pibble is eternal
@sacred elm finally shipped mine, ig bc i bundled something else so they had to go grab that. you'll be finding out whether we get fluxes or bluxes first
I think all orders got shipped today, hope we don't get Bluxes
nah there's no way
i looked at the store reviews and no one else got fakes
just they send like 1 switch short a few times

idk they should identical to regular but just bink
havent gotten scammed on aliexpress yet
besides with the 2 week shipping time
2 week is fine
its all you need after all
2 weeks is a great time to window shop yk
ngl, my country online store needs to go faster
tiktok shop already beating them out but it's tiktok
Hmmm can look sick on vella silver edition
Semi amen
Does anyone have a HE Switch recommendation where the switch is fully white/transparent, and makes deeper/thockier sounds
Also, thoughts on the raw geon he, and magnetic jade air/max?
There's no "thocky" switch, but you can try UR Ice Ultra, it has "deep clacky" sound profile.
those jades suck
fuck the rgbs and get pros
they are legendary
or just get raws
the raws are probably what you're looking for
we just determined that doesn't exist
Yes, but at least recommend something that is on deeper side
i'm sure they can sound deeper depending on the case and plate
try the mmd c1s 
i was just said raws bc they clearly want transparent or translucent, i have no idea what the ice ultras are like in terms of sound
ice ultras are deeper raws and imo so are the c1s
damn and they're also literally pennies
Get elf kings
lol
I just wanted something that matches white and is a bit deeper
like ik you can't see switches but they're in the back of my mind
TTC my beloved
Try Ice Ultras then
They're fully transparent.
Also dirt cheap
and they are Wooting compatible?
ye
sorry one more thing, I wanted to swap out the springs for heavier ones, around 70
How do I know which springs are compatible?
Wooting Lekker springs are compatible
You need HE compatible 6.1mm diameter springs
ok tysm
damn this the cleanest thing ive seen all year
with some miami keycaps
Ayo, Which emotion should I use for the fact that the Gateron switches, for which I paid $4 for shipping, will arrive tomorrow, while the GMK set, for which I paid around €30 for shipping, is still at the DHL warehouse. Let me remind you how the switches were traveling to me
It be like that
I purchased a keyboard last year in June/July it was supposed to come in q1 this year and has now been delayed once again 
bewildered
Let me count how much distance this package has traveled
Ts sound crazy asf
≈23200km
Referring to the map, tracking updates, and the fact that I’m in Poland
Hopefully that don’t happen with my kb
Get centerpiece for proper thock king
Then you can wait until 2029 with hopper
Anyone know where to sell used switches/cases?
r/mechmarket, eBay/Facebook marketplace depending on your region
💀
You know you want it you foamy cream fanatic
i would just get another mx board then 🤓 ☝️
also that thing ugly
Your package loves to travel
Nah it’s beautiful just like takmisser’s cataclysm raiding 2013 monitor
You weren’t born yet to truly appreciate large bezels
mb unc
Tuff
how dare u interrupt my edpuzzle assignment
Np son
Dang why’d they go to the North Pole?
earth is a ball moment
wsg any recent interesting developments in rubber dome he yet
dont think so
but i might be plannin to get an ec pcb for my agar
since ur a rubber dome man
what should i be lookin for
no idea i been riding on tecsee gel pads (tactile variant) for like 6 months now
rakka atlas chart topper
Nice nice
ah the switch gods are trying to save me from flux it seems
So far only 2 keeb match woot release latency
package got slowed down for id clearance
Waow
If woot has like 0.05mm actuation, do you think it can match atlas?
rakka isn't in the super low silly settings group. they even made a blog about it
just makes your keyboard actually worse in real usage so they never did it
Madlion clears it has 0.02mm
Cant wait to see woot with 0.1mm
just change values in web ui to whatever you want
Hi is there a good deep sounding switch for the wooting?
I atm use the jade pro's but I built the wooting 80he in February so I think the switches are kinda outdated on my board
I don't care if the switch is bad for gaming cuz I don't even use my wooting 80he for gaming
Raeds recolour before GTA 6
https://x.com/goattheremin/status/1968696299802210676?s=46
Also getting those "tactile" switches from Lateron + couple of Gat Type R
+- in an hour and they will be with me
They arent re colours
They have harder domes
Nice nice
And it's brown, my fav color for a switch
Chocy milk ah color
Lekker ahh recolour 
how hard 
If it fixes the issue, my dream of 60% board with rubberdome will live
true thocc

Hall effect keyboard hippyo would accept
Nice nice
Looks very nice
Those jade emeralds btw have same tactile mechanisms as type r
Looks like Box Kailhs killed my understanding of the structure of tactile switches
is the lubricant any good, I just bought an 80HE but have my own lubricant.
The stock lube job is more than servicable, majority of people who buy a board from Wooting don't have the lube or know how to do it (gamers), so they make it good enough for those people
Nothing stopping you from doing it yourself if you think it could be better though
Very nice, looks like I have to decide between this and woot
preorders start 1st of october in japan
stepped caps too
both 😃👍
no date for international yet afaik
I guess if the pcb is only less than $150 on rakka
@steady halo
it’s $180 or so
lemme check
ah yeah, $150 w/o switches
$190 with
not bad
Damn
Japan, not China?
Okay right on my expected cost
from the official rakka retailer in japan
that ship internationally too if you ask*
got my hm from there too
would’ve been cool to pick it up when im in China in november, but maybe it will be available on aliexpress like rakka 80 eventually
HAHAHA
Peak
Can I return all my 80HE stuff?
true lol
well it can be a separate smaller board so youll have both options
both 60% and a 80he
Does it include a plate or that's diy?
includes a plate but there might be different plates available
kinda same but at least it’s compatible with PCB mounts
Never mind, just my ambitions got the better of common sense
Green consumed
frog mini pesante + atlas 
But only in sweet dreams
Quick revision:
as expected Gateron Type R is my new favourite mx switch
Gateron Jade emerald is mediocre as all other HE releases from gateron
oh I have this mx switch in my cart too lol
Hrm so about $200 for the pcb module set
Wooting stream today btw. Any topics you’d like us to cover? (no leaks)

I need 50 more asap, they so damn good, even when they are in cheap ass board like this
sounds nice and clean in this board, but I bet the tactility in them feels nice too
Better than Jade emeralds and classic Kailh box at least
Let's talk about Sony cameras
That’s a given
hopefully you guys will be able to confirm whether there is an easter egg with a certain leaker who has an outstanding track record and accuracy
More language layout PBT doubleshot backlit keycaps? ;P
I fear he has a different definition of outstanding
What or how many orders would it make it worthwhile for you guys to do it
Cause I understand it’s quite the mold investment
If you order 20k units Calder may be convinced
But could it be a kickstarter to not commit to it before wooting is guaranteed it will be worthwhile?
I forget what the number Calder gave before was on stream, but was it 50-100k investment just to get the molds done for these?
Yep would that be something they’d be okay speaking in stream?
100k I believe off memory for the molds
Well mostly me and sander don’t have any control of that so asking us doesn’t get anywhere but we can talk about it
Switchy blanket 
Wooting 60hev2 plastic case
they made a new mold for an upsidedown space so that the people that use their spacebars upside down have the little bar at the top as well. it either isn’t that expensive or they have their priorities fucked up lol
that's not how it works.
making an entire language set is different from expanding a mold you already plan to make with an extra key
I still can’t believe they actually did that
how many spacebars did they even add?
6.25 and the splits presumably?
💀
adding an extra key isn't too hard if you already have something planned, but doing an entirely new set is a different cost. Speaking of which there is an interesting modding keycap set topic to discuss in todays stream because we need feedback on potential keys people would like to have
one or three new molds for spacebars?
it’s not so much about the new bars but the reason behind it lol
yeah no one in here is crazy enough to want to debate you on what you believe is popular or required
defend it sno 😭
nah i'm good
Haha no worries i totally get it if you never produce spanish iso keycaps but if you could pass on what if it was on a kickstarter basis for less used or commercialised keycaps set so you only produce if you get the ROI that you need
doesn’t need to be a full set either, i’d be glad to buy the nordic set plus the different keys which are rather minor for instance
@glacial wind so deep clackies not today? 
All green keys here in nordic layout is 100% match to Spanish ISO whereas the yellow are good enough so it’s only 8 keycaps that would definitely need a mold
I’m sure the same happens with other languages layouts
But again no hard feelings if nothing happens, totally get how ROI works XD
It’s our fault for not having a standardised spanish layout amongst the over 500 million native spanish speakers in the world
XD
we should really have a standardised layout for portuguese and spanish and make that 800 mill
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Ceramic HE
ugly HE
be nice
Unless the QC is ass
or they make the sensor only accept their own switch
TMR Hall Effect switches 🗣️🗣️🗣️
"unbreakable & incredibly thocky" when will this stop😭
no
save me from this thocky hell
and some people in here still say no thocky magnetic switch exists
fuck my stupid thocky life
if that’s not proof enough, idk what is
this is such a bunch of marketing bullshit😭
Ceramic Magnetic PBT Thock Effect Switch
nice, collected $250. The universe congratulated me by showing GOLD GOLD GOLD (lit, the sky is gold, my noodle is gold, and my drink is gold).
the static usb C location is all you need
not yet, it got stuck in id verification hell
isn't just a normal unified db? one of them
for the pic
it's kinda weird
i want to know more deeper
the one on the left looks like it's the same type as on venom
that's what i'm curious about
like, is the cable a fix thing?
is it possible to change the cable if the cable is broken(?)
or change the cable length
idk
yeah seems like a valid concern
I'd think the cable length on the render is not the actual length
yeah,
i hope they sell extra part
for it
but it looks very nice
finally stepped caps on 60% HE

$150 for kit with warranty (i hope they still keep the warranty) is kinda nice
surely
there isn’t any JST connector on the PCB itself
so that USB-C replacement board or whatever you call it is the only way
not sure if it’s a good or bad thing
the fact that the cables come out of it vertically is also a bit odd
considering it’s an already thick PCB
I’m really curious what the 60HE v2’s Module will sell for.
ASS, noice
Anyone know how i can buy from taobao to France
ASSSSS>
a forwarder like superbuy
they can deliver to a relay point?
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what do you mean?
instead of having it delivered to my home, I have it delivered to a locker or a store. Doesn't that exist where you live?
they just ship it to an address, so doesn’t matter where that is
it does but never heard of something not being able to ship to it
oh, you mean like from a postal company themselves?
Yes
usually youd change it once you got the tracking link BUT DHL, UPS and I think GLS all allow to enter a parcel station directly as an address. they all have their own format for it though and may or may not specify how to enter the address as they rpefer people using the tracking link to change the delivery options.
then I’m not sure, it depends on which postal company they use
yeah, thought he meant a postbus at first
What is the best site to order from Taobao to France please?
or whatever it’s called
PO Box?
yeah
those would just have a normal address with an additional address line specifying it
superbuy is the most popular afaik
like a reshipper basically
yeah exactly
np but it’s a bit tricky to set everything up afaik, so it might be difficult even with a forwarder.
Morkblade?
yes

doing something different to do something different
can’t u get it off of alix?
There is only the prebuilt version
there is a non-prebuilt version?
White ,grey Orange, and black and special one gold and red the gold one have spiral bottom but more than 200€
Yes the case only and the bottom look like the cloudnine
a ramp buggy is what the thing looks like 
ah, yeah. the case only for $100 or so from tb
kinda expensive ngl
after shipping $130 maybe
yall think i can salvage the wooting tape mod and put it on a replacement pcb?
i wanna keep it for a holy80 bc hollow bottom
Yes
What cover does this mean exactly guys
Does this come below pcb or the bottom of the whole case
it goes inside the case, at the bottom
Most likely sits on the bottom case
Thanks a lot
thats an entirely different thing
that cover isnt a plate
Well does it help with the stress near the screws and stuff?
i cant say it does
ik what youre talking about
tho idk if wooting sells replacement plates for the 80he
the holy80 has a custom one
If your 80HE plate got damaged, reach out to Wooting for a replacement plate https://wooting.io/support
Pick the category and issue you need help with, and we'll guide you through the process.
cos its top mount
Yes but for iso one which comes with holy case
It’s screwed I think and one of the edges is broken
ah
page: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/holy80-accessories
#kbdfans #keyboard #keycaps #desksetup #mechanicalkeyboard #customkeyboard #pbtfans
I am not sure if it has warranty
Ask and find out. They have a live chat.
if you are in the EU you have 2 year warranty
Alrighty
Damn fr?
that's the law
if they choose not to obey it then enforcing that is going to be tough
but technically, legally, they are obligated to provide warranty for any sold-as-new good or item for no less than 2 years
applies to anyone who wants to do business in the EU
you would need to check the UK warranty law in that case
isn’t this about something from KBDFans?
yes but it does not matter who or what it's from
Alright I will check it out
I don't think so
though, KBD has good support afaik so you can probably get it resolved
it is.
if you do business here (sell to people here) then you have to comply by trade rules of here
same reason I can't mail you weed even if I did it from NL
you can buy from a reseller within the EU
that way you would get the warranty
reseller/vendor
alix upholds it iirc
However, if you buy from a non-EU online trader who has specifically targeted EU consumers you should also be covered by EU rules
"specifically targeted EU consumers" clearly is something to be interpreted very loosely – but if their webshop takes a european address with no qualms then it's safe to say they are targeting EU consumers as much as any other consumer
hmm, what does specifically target mean?
yeah, not sure.
let's just say, if you buy your item from a chinese website, written in chinese, that only takes chinese addresses, then clearly you can't claim european warranty
but if they are a company in china with an english webshop clearly selling to western audience, quite obvious in my eyes they are "targeting EU consumers"
it’d be nice if that were the case but what I read kind of conflicts with this
problem is of course enforcement, there's no way to make them to come to court here if you wanted to challenge their claim of no warranty
so, in effect, your mileage may vary
it stated something like when a company has a presence in the UE, then that’d be your right.
yeah that will automatically make it unambiguous
Enforcement is too difficult now anyway, even for EU companies. Ever since they stoped the ODR-platform. :(
just in this case where they don't have a presence here, but are still selling to customers here, it would be considered "targeting EU consumers" and subject to same rules I feel
could be, a bit odd they don’t give an example in that page
for what exactly they mean
normally they do that right?
I think it's because there's no body or agency or otherwise capable of enforcing it anyway
does anyone know what the most obnoxiously clicky switches are available?
magnetic ones?
yes
not exactly much choice but either the Glorious ones or the Outemu ones.
Or if you really want the most obnoxious ones, then the Jades with a click leaf from the Melodics (you’ll have to open each one up and take the click leaf from one [the Melodics] and put it in the other [Jades]).
im just going for straight up noise have tried both phylina’s i think they called and jades both sound decent but aren’t scratching the being annoying itch.
Oh, you don’t mean actually clicky switches but just loud linear ones?
anything honestly
If you just want loud, Fluxes are pretty good and they aren’t that expensive anymore.
i will check out these suggestions, i appreciate your help
@tropic urchin another Flux rec, this is not a dream!
wait so its safe to talk about fluxies without sno admonishing you, based
im getting kinda tired of plastic plate tho
hoping deep clack is the FR4 champ switch
It's time for deep clackies + CF
copper
hmm
or brass
thanks dear
ok friend
ive only heard it with jade maxes and it was weird
Hi everyone!
I heard you guys know keyboards really well!
Does my Wooting 80HE sounds good?
MIC: DEVINE M-MIC.
Got it out of the box since yesterday :).
I think the reactions means it is good?
Or?
It sounds great
one of my owlabs developed a crunch 💔

that means it’s ripe, best time to munch
That might be a sign to order Deep Clackies
wait owlabs are crunchy too? we really cant have anything nice in this life
wots wrong with crunche
2 of mine are crunchy 
we are truly cursed
i might have to get new switches
i was really starting to like the owlabs too 
should just get some lateron lades
yes.
i do kinda wanna replace my owlabs soon, I like them but they're only a few months old and starting to crunch, and I've handlubed them before
it's rubbing on the stem housing
Fluxes for that price is a steal, just saying 
jade pros would never let you down
they're loyal
i haven't found a single video of deep clacky fluxes yet btw, i can only find default skin fluxes
which price
plus I haven't heard a decent sound test of the deep clackys
On the Wuque sales page there’s a video
Ali price
My deep flux do arrive tomorrow though so I can add them to the soundtests I’m doing next week
deal.
I do want to see if Wuque plan to update official pricing too
it’s a bit weird if vendors are selling for 1/3 the price vs them
how are they not operating at a loss selling it at that price
They might release spring packs too, I asked them yesterday
I’d guess some of these guys get low pricing from China bulk buying and are now passing cost savings over
But that’s just total guess
but Wuque really need to lower their official pricing if more vendors start popping up for this low pricing
either that or they're giga fake clones
I asked that Ali seller about the price and they told me this "We have the most advantageous sourcing in China"
🤷♂️
yeah but you're undercutting ghosts atp
It's pretty hard to release Flux clones, so chances are low
Yeah I feel it’s them buying via factory leak where it’s made by same factory but not officially or via reselling from China hobby shops that got them cheap somehow
possibly, i read they're made by a different factory i think
His stem wobble rating is weird, should be higher
Stem barely moves when you bottom out
And it feels consistent throughout the press
Even jades
GMK Tiramisu is finally in Poland, somewhere in Robakowo(around 100-200 km from me)
There’s only 2 options:
1.Yesterday
2.||
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Fuuck
22.09:(
this'll work well with raws, right?
wait how
he just means not everyone runs into the wobble issue
if you don't mind spending the extra for spacers in the case that you need it then it's fine, but yeah not everyone runs into the issue with every switch/keycap combo
youd rather have them and not need them than vice versa
preorder 80he
can't get it
60he v2 role incoming
@sacred elm need deep clack
i'm confused, i thought spacers were required for non-longpole stabs with shorter bottom-out switches
Ali eternal shipping 💔
Not required. You use them if you have issues.
Most of the time happens if you have very cheap keycaps.

Are Ws flux the GOAT at this point?
They feel and sound great, but the price sucks.
Currently they're cheap on AliExpress though.
How is the stem wobble? Seeing mixed reviews some people saying none and some saying there is actually a bit
I am using lekker/raptor v1 Frankenswitches which have almost zero wobble
It has great stem wobble.
But sound is not good and the feel is meh
I am tempted, hoping the person above posts a deep version sound test to see if that’s worth it
Sno should receive them tomorrow, so wait for the proper sound test.
To go off Sno’s rankings they’re like A+/S- top wobble and S bottom stability
They’re slightly better top wobble than TTC POM only due to smaller stem (octagonal vs large box) and has similar bottom from my experience
Here's a rough sound test of deep clacky Fluxes on a PCR 80HE #🔧│keyboard_modding message
If they stay $1 per switch I think they’re great value in the current meta
Only switch I’ve gone back to time and time again
Raptors are better top wobble but they crunchy bois 🥀
Thanks! This is good information
I got some new keycaps (GMK Prussian blue) so I figured may as well just freshen the whole board up
I think that sound is the one to beat, Thunderflash probably #2 for me. I wonder if Tikkens will clear.
And my Raptor V2s stay flawless 
I was so sad the day mine gone crunchy
That being said I think maybe deep black WASD would be beneficial if you do notice any on your movement keys
Tested Flux vs. Raptor/Lekker Frankenswitch and stem wobble is actually very close. With frankenswitch you can feel stem movement when you bottom out and wiggle the switch horizontally, with Fluxes you feel nothing and it feels so much better than the Raptor franken.
I think it should feel/sound similar @stark osprey
Thanks so much
That’s super helpful. Sounds like slight stem feel upgrade and definitely sound upgrade to go from those to flux
I’ll give it a try to see how it feels on alu whenever it arrives
Yeah I was quite surprised when I saw you guys talking about the crunch, definitely had me paranoid for a bit so I have been keeping an eye on my set. So far so good though 🤞🏼
I noticed it on W key which was super weird
And sometimes on S but it wasn’t always happening
G - Regular white Flux
H - Raptor/Lekker v1 frankenswitch
Keep in mind that currently I have regular Flux and it sounds way louder than the "Deep Clacky" version.
After like 3 days it started
If deep clack removes some of the high pitch/harshness it’s going to be S tier for my build
A louder raptor v2 would go hard
Yeah that is essentially zero wobble haha especially on bottom out
Yeah it’s very good on bottom stability. As long as it’s not a huge box I can live with the top wobble
Raptors fumbled at the goal line tho with those springs/design
Can you not replace the springs on your Raptors with other springs, say like with the Geon pingless HE? Or does it not fit?
No
Only compatible iirc is TTC Pom (and Wooting collab)
And I replaced my stock springs for those and same issue
Replacing springs won't help yeah, it's a design issue.
Gotcha wow, how unfortunate.
Nobody is allowed to use stable 45g long spring switches
Deep clack on salt lake FR4 plate 🥶
😳
Will try CF too
wooting ortholinear KB, wen
I need 60v2 with deep clackies NOW 🤬
@tawdry tree are you going to become a deep clack church attender?
Probably never. Very unfortunate for the three people who want this to happen.
@glacial wind can you share how well your Gat tactile were lubed?
Mine look like they were lubed decently, but the spring is awful. I tried lubing it with GPL105 and it felt like it completely killed the sound
I don’t think you can fix the sound of tactile jade
That chattery sound you’re trying to remove comes from the tactile bit I’m pretty sure
They sucks as I expected
At least I spent only $10 so
Type R’s are saving this order, they’re sooo nice
Now get deep clackies 
whats up with everything talking about deep clacks lately
$2 per switch switches are 50% off
2 dollar per switch damn
lowk i did not expect anybody to buy my fluxes
i gave bro a $0.10 discount per switch
Flux demon is back, he’s trying to brainwash more people with his new deep clack switches
So i sold mine to bro for $65 with shipping
sign the contract
Considering you got it free that’s a nice deal lol
I’m still very confused about what the deal is with this suddenly cheap flux listings
Gods gift to marbly clack church
You can only get shafted so many times before the universe throws you some red meat
hopefully c1s dont have spring crunch

Imagine everyone has spring crunch lmao
lmao
if c1s develop a crunch im moving to ice ultras
dude my k11 is out for delivery rn but amazon is EDGING the fuck out of me
bro went pass my house 4 times
dipped my neighborhood and went to who knows what
I was about to buy some, what in your opinion makes the springs "bad" ?
@sacred elm send the video
TL;DR it’s most likely the design is flawed on the switches. Over time you might (I did) notice spring crunch when you press your keys (I only noticed on W and S)
Springs are fine, it's the housing
What happens is you’ll feel the spring bottoming out and it’ll feel crunchy and weird
Switches will eventually develop "crunch", because the spring isn't secured properly
Doesn’t always happen, but it’s found a way to happen every 1-2 days it’s very annoying
I swapped with my TTC Pom as well and happened still
Ideally if you don’t play OSU, and switch swap WASD you’ll never have the issue
Or maybe you’ll be lucky
And have no spring crunch
Switches are very tight though and so cheap, overall not bad.
but the crunching issue sucks
The switches are cheap enough it’s worth the gamble @night atlas
damn i assume even w/lube the spring crunch is still persistent?
considering y'all prob have tried that alr
Yes, it's not only the sound. You can physically feel spring rubbing against the bottom housing. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1289520753238081629/1410669092880384051/IMG_2631.mov?ex=68cedc78&is=68cd8af8&hm=8ad141dd51515e9d77721d550ee36b7f318f1769f3798c6c4a29cf5e5182136d&
what switches we talking about here
Raptor v2
ah
oh damn
Keep in mind though that this isn’t everyone with them
and there's no compatible springs for general sale too huh:?
So we warn people about them but the majority of people do not experience the spring issue
Ya, every product will have QC issues
is it something that comes w/switch use or do some just straight up come out like that
it seemed implied that it was through use? to me at least

For example there’s maybe a couple reports on geon discord and a few here but everyone else can’t even get it to happen at all
oof
eh not a big deal for me, esp considering the price
It’s through use but only if your usage is very specific to the type of usage that seems to cause it
i c i c
So for example heavy repetitive fast presses like osu seem to trigger it more
yea, i should be fine considering i'm an FPS guy anyway
thanks for the insight tho, still good to know
The main thing is if you’re ordering them I’d buy a few extra so you can swap if you have it happen
Yeah, idk. Some of my raptors developed crunch after typing. I'm unlucky I guess.
God doesn’t want me to be happy, all I did was press W in game 
It happened on my WASD keys and then randomly on my E and J keys
I believe both me and ponz had them in our 80he for weeks of daily use and couldn’t replicate the crunch happening - so it’s very random and hard to pin down what causes it
telling you to chill and stop running at people
Time to not move in game
real
my best guess was just sort of molding issue during production, though idk about the manufacturing process too wel'
And checking the geon reviews in Korea it seems very low incidence rate too because the reviews are still very high here with no mentions of crunch
so it’s just a bit of a weird one where a small percentage of people will experience the issue and we can’t figure out exactly why
How much are Raptors for you?
I still really want to know if these cheap flux are factory leaks or not
Because it’s a known thing that happens in China, but we have no idea if that’s the case here or something else caused this listings price to be low
Well not really because factory leaks are real products
They’re exactly the same as the real product sometimes and can even be made in same factory, but unauthorised
They’re just Flux and not WS Flux 
So from a buyers perspective they may very well be the same product as a Wuque sold flux for example even if they’re factory leaks
Well if @tawdry tree scammed me I’ll be sneaking his OW60
And replacing it with a GT60
just that a factory made a batch they weren’t authorised to and sold it for cheap - not saying that happened here of course but that’s how factory leak stuff works at times
We will all blame aligner so that's fine
Then he can get more keycap sets
I'll take that.

0.38usd per
I have a connection so I'm getting free shipping haha
so i esp can't complain
Yeah I’d roll the dice
100%
Worst case they wind up in a jar or they’re BIS switches for you so
i've been thru many shitty switches so I think a small chance of spring crunch is gonna be nbd
what's BIS?:
True
Best in slot
Best in Slot (MMO term) think of it as ‘endgame’ switches
Or your endgame
Ahhhhh gotcha
They were really nice for me up until they ended up crunching
I legit thought there was a new brand/brand i haven't heard of lmao
I’m not that plugged in unfortunately
almost googled BIS Switches HE
What’s also soulless is any switch on PC plate
Wait who said that
Regular Fluxes aren't 🤬
I was told deep clackies are dead on PC, so it's getting retired 🫡
You served well flopping fish plate 
im gonna keep using mmd c1s on pc 
double the punches for you
What would be a nicer sound for 60he? Stock plate vs brass vs carbon fiber?
CF is usually good, mostly depends on what you’re running (steel or PC plate)
FR4/alu too are good options
If you have steel and like the stiffness, but not the metal sound CF would be your pick
I forget which one came with the wooting 60 regular. I also got a he+ but that one is steel right?
Prebuilt for the regular (which is the board I am using now) and then module for the he+
Depends on switches
Ordered the flex from a guy on Reddit
So will be those
@fluid ravine
2nd board will eventually have owlab ti

It’s his opinion, that’s what he gave as a reasoning basically, after I asked about why he rated the KoM’s wobble worse than Raw HE’s.. 💀
?
I’d try FR4 at first, and see how you feel regarding the volume
Yes

LOL

part time perhaps.
WHAT
Oh shit
I am confused haha
You bought from thockson
@fluid ravine was the seller
Oh hahah that’s funny
Oh so you bought regular fluxes
Yeah I didn’t like the sound of the deep ones as much
YO

just use, not specific use.
ap_3? @gray vapor
Yes haha you can tell I keep the username consistent
mine aint 
wait that's hilarious
I have ow60 in the box still but this is the one the flux will go on. With GMK Prussian blue
there’s no good way to objectively measure wobble yet so it’s somewhat fair, his opinion is wrong though. 
Planning owlab ti with this key set (GMK micticlan) on the ow60
Will warn you, Fluxes are VERY loud on CF plate
interesting.... you got the astrals 👀
pretty
indeed
im waiting on my k11 right now
am looking at thocksons reddit posts 
but amazon is edging the absolute fuck out of me
ay
ay
ay
why you stalking

PC plate?
Ah, thought you were going to use them in OW60
Ow60 will have owlab ti in them eventually. Then this board will have the flux
owlab with owlab
Yuge
But that white plate is PC right?
(we are still like 2 months out) 
I haven’t taken this board apart in a while
Prebuilt 60HE is steel
Module is PC
Do we think the PC or steel will sound good with flux?
PC
PC
Steel is the loudest and very metallic sounding plate
Plastic plates are the way to go with Flux
Steel is out of the question
yeah
Even FR4 is borderline too loud
yea
Cool
agreed
Deep clackies will be nice on metal plates
Experiment with different plates to find your ideal one 🌹
Maybe try on PC and see how you feel
Then go from there
I’ll try PC first since it’s already built that way. But I’ll be taking off the steel plate from other board anyways for the ow60 build so can switch if desired at that point
I have way too many keyboards haha
should cover my keyboard in hot glue and glitter 
sand particles for extra wear on the switches
Good idea
@tropic urchin
looking good gang
noice
guess im mostly set
just need to get a dongle dac and try more eartips now

am happay
Dongle dac is all you need
No need for big dac
i dont like to route my iem cable to my pc
i rather have it on my desk
and a physical volume control knob
I have a long 3.5mm extension going from my motherboard to under my desk
that could be the thing you can do
nah im good tbh xd
but I also want to hotswap between multiple dongle dacs so I might just do long USB instead
i've used to run my iem cable to my pc on the floor i really dont enjoy it
i usually have my interfaces running center on the desk so it doesn't really get in the way of anything for me 
How is it
is there any custom plate manufacturer on taobao that can drill countersink holes?
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