#🔧│keyboard_modding

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steady halo
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go move to asia

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the minimum u can do

tropic urchin
steady halo
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what happened between kbdfans and rakka?

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i never knew the exact story

tropic urchin
steady halo
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no wonder

tawdry tree
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didn’t geon start to use RISCV with the RGB version and not the venoms before that?

tropic urchin
steady halo
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fun fact #1 by DarthJ
venom mcu and sayo mcu are the exact same

tawdry tree
steady halo
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but I can't see the reason to use ARM for HE keyboards

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since they have their own software, not qmk / via stuff

steady halo
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while sayo pcb still fcked on updates

steady halo
tawdry tree
steady halo
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ngl, from the first time i saw the rgb light

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i can say it was made by sayo

tawdry tree
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idk why they can’t drop those stupid ass LEDs man

steady halo
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$160

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these days pulsar is becoming logitech G

tawdry tree
# steady halo HAHAHA

there are many switches now with flush diffusers, if you install those, the LED is dead

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😭

tawdry tree
steady halo
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ngl since the x2f released for public

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they don't hear testers feedback

tawdry tree
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😕

steady halo
tawdry tree
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the guy uses discord like once a month himself so it isn’t surprising

steady halo
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losing hope for international release

tawdry tree
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🙏

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last message in the server

tawdry tree
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but you never know

steady halo
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I don't want to use taobao

marble sierra
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Taobao isn't that bad tbh

steady halo
marble sierra
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I use Superbuy and they do all the work for me

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🤣

steady halo
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and warranty will be tough

fallen pecan
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0.4 eur each

tawdry tree
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yeah, I hope there’ll be a more reasonably priced listing on Ali soon

humble surge
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when in doubt TaoBao it out SwitchyHeHe

steady halo
paper bison
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live laugh love taobao

tawdry tree
spice plover
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Yeah waiting for someone to try those switches out soon might order a few

steady halo
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i hope because of atlas, rakka will be open to the international community like geon with venom pcb (geon is open with international before venom, but venom was korean exclusive..)

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so yeah

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let's hope for the best

reef oar
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i'm glad raptors have problems

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nothing could truly dethrone the almighty jade pro

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especially not without a price

steady halo
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@tawdry tree there's a prebuilt ver

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1 year warranty

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
steady halo
tawdry tree
steady halo
steady halo
reef oar
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no one rage baits like me

steady halo
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i translate it

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hahaha

tropic urchin
reef oar
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ofc

reef oar
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he walked so i could run

reef oar
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moonwalked perhaps

steady halo
tropic urchin
steady halo
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star wars was the best shit ever

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star wars walked so dune can run

jade narwhal
tawdry tree
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kinda, yeah

steady halo
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they used 80 edge for edging us about 60 atlas performance

trail bane
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Ayo guys

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I’m as always proud to be in deep shi*
S o, I’m wondering what to do: I haven’t built anything in a long time and I spotted a tasty Neo65 Core Plus. The case costs about the same as a GMK set, should I jump on this train of the mechanical industry?

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Something tells me I’ll never finish the Wooting :) Vibecheck

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One of the most convincing arguments is also the 7u spacebar and nice looking sides

glacial wind
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alright got the peach silent, freya silent, gateron tactiles and some keysnaps on the way

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so should be able to update the silent list soon

tropic urchin
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I wouldn’t really build something to build something unless that fits into your keyboard usage plans and unless you want MX for something specific. I think it would be more beneficial to finish your Wooting (eat your vegetables so to speak) or you’ll have 2 boards that you’ll probably be customizing and further dividing your resources @trail bane

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Not to mention you still need to get that backpack smile

trail bane
chilly mural
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Me wanna know

tropic urchin
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You’ll have to scroll up or ask Mr lander but idk what specific backpack his fam wanted him to buy

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My other advice is establish your vision before you buy it, or you’ll keep the cycle repeating of changing without completion lander

chilly mural
trail bane
chilly mural
trail bane
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Cuz it cost me only 30usd ig

tropic urchin
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@trail bane finish your Wooting and then if you want another, you get another that matches the effort you put into your first

lyric jasper
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ur ice ultra or magnetic jade pro?

tropic urchin
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I think the ice ultras are probably going to be better for stem wobble and might be a lil deeper, but they also have a box stem variant (Phylina thunderbolt) if you like those too

spice plover
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within 4 hours my life will change forever

lyric jasper
tropic urchin
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It should be more recent than the Jade pros so performance should be similar or better, probably cheaper too

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Haven’t seen the blue variants so can’t say really

lyric jasper
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alright thanks!

tropic urchin
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Might just be a recolor

trail bane
# tropic urchin <@1147488434152288327> finish your Wooting and then if you want another, you get...

I don’t operate with logic in these kinds of situations. I sold my old keyboards, and now I realized that carrying them around feels kind of tiring, and I need something more compact.
Still, I think I’ll order a GMK set now and buy a new board someday. I should discipline myself in this smile but the Neo65 Core Plus looks really dope, and I think the smartest thing I could do is to buy everything for that build at once, not piece by piece like before :)

tropic urchin
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Or just get something noncustomizable dogekek

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Unless you have your vision planned out I wouldn’t, but only you can really answer the question as to if you should/want it that much

glacial wind
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or gets into cameras and spend 5x as much on lenses

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it's never too late to follow shafie's footsteps

chilly mural
trail bane
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≈240usd vs $155 one single gmk sethavo

trail bane
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I’m not that rich

chilly mural
trail bane
trail bane
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At least at school, at work. For now, I’ll only need the Wooting to play a bit, but my playtime has dropped a lot since the school year started, so…

trail bane
# chilly mural Hmm, so the goal is typing feel

I’d say there’s even more of a philosophical decision behind this: whether to spend 150 euros on a single keycap set or just throw in a couple dozen bucks to get a full-fledged keyboard

chilly mural
trail bane
chilly mural
trail bane
chilly mural
trail bane
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That’s why i love y’all

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W advices as always

polar girder
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I’m happy with my overpriced set of GMK

trail bane
little glen
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that ones nice

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still super upset i didnt buy dragon witch when it was still in stock

tidal frigate
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@glacial wind have you tried hmx he switches?

polar girder
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Yeah I’ve been tempted by Black and Gold and Shaded but I really don’t need more than one set of nice keycaps

tawdry tree
tidal frigate
tawdry tree
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yep 👍

calm pulsar
tropic urchin
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Geon would never outsource his magnum opus, I don’t believe you @tawdry tree

tawdry tree
polar girder
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We know.

tropic urchin
thorn zealot
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I don’t believe it until I see it

calm pulsar
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dude is probably doing a typing test right in this channel

tropic urchin
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Unrelated how is KBDfans still have no update for salt lake other than early September and it’s almost mid September 😭

vapid dock
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Hi, I just joined the server so I can get some help regarding a MIDI keyboard project I want to work on.

I want to make a velocity-sensitive MIDI controller for making microtonal music with RGB light-up keys, and I was thinking about using either the Lekker L45 V1 or V2 key switches since they're analog switches that are made for outputting a voltage based on how pressed down the key is. For the PCB, I want to know where to place the holes for the key switch pins and stuff and the LEDs and the hall effect sensors for each key and what LEDs and hall effect sensors to use, but Wooting doesn't seem to say anything about that on their website. I see that they have a bunch of their design files on GitHub but that doesn't seem to include the files for their PCBs. Does anyone have experience making a custom PCB for a keyboard with the Lekker switches or know where the parts and holes go for each switch on the PCB?

little glen
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the switches are basically just a magnet in a plastic housing, there are lots of other options out there

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it may be possible to read the analog values from a wooting keyboard using the wooting analog sdk

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cheapest option to test that would be to get a wooting uwu, but probably read through the documentation first

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if you want to make a custom pcb, you may be able to find design files for an open source Hall Effect board, no clue if those exist yet. Otherwise you'd have to do some of your own engineering to make it all work.

calm pulsar
# vapid dock Hi, I just joined the server so I can get some help regarding a MIDI keyboard pr...

I feel like for music applications using a keyboard switch might not be comfortable

compared to a midi keyboard that is velocity sensitive, you just bottom out the key with different force

but for a keyboard switch you have to apply a very specific amount of force to keep the switch "mid-air" in order to hit a certain note/velocity which seems too hard to be constantly doing

unless you maybe have super strong springs in the switch

or maybe you have a whole different layout in mind for such a keyboard

little glen
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true

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also unsure if 4 mm travel is enough for such a thing

calm pulsar
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yeah I was also thinking maybe it would need more travel

little glen
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but the basics of it are still just magnet moving closer and further from sensor which seems simple enough to adapt to this use case (tho idk how hard firmware development etc would be)

vapid dock
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My keyboard would have a key layout less like a piano and more like a square grid

little glen
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interesting

calm pulsar
little glen
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that is a cool project but it will involve a lot of hardware and software development, so get ready for that

chilly mural
calm pulsar
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yeah reading analog values and outputting to VST or wherever you play should be more involving than a board with MX switches like that, but it would be something new and interesting

vapid dock
little glen
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that is very cool

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But yeah, this is a Hall Effect switch, as you can see it just has 2 pins coming out that serve as mechanical support for stability and no electrical connection to the pcb

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in theory you could design a pcb that doesnt even include holes for the pins but i would not recommend that, as stability is key on Hall Effect due to the high degree of precision of the sensors

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firmware would need to calibrate, read voltage difference coming from the sensor and turn that into whatever signal you want

vapid dock
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That doesn't sound too hard

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The hall-effect sensors are on the underside of the PCB, right?

little glen
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yep

vapid dock
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The double-sided PCBA is gonna be more expensive to make

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Since the LEDs will have to go on the opposite side

tawdry tree
# vapid dock Hi, I just joined the server so I can get some help regarding a MIDI keyboard pr...

Woot’s boards aren’t opensource, they just provide the design files (mostly to make your own case and such). There is an opensource HE board project however, which is probably the best you’re gonna get: https://github.com/peppapighs/HE60

GitHub

Tsangan layout 60% Hall-effect keyboard. Contribute to peppapighs/HE60 development by creating an account on GitHub.

tawdry tree
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A whole lot of redesigning will still be required of course, but it’s something at least. :)

vapid dock
little glen
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idk if this is a thing but

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could you just put holes in the pcb

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and let the led shine through from below

tawdry tree
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(the back/bottom)

little glen
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yeah i just checked and thats how wooting do it as well

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just put the led below and let it shine through

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it would be better regardless, since a lot of switches nowadays include a diffuser that sits flush with the pcb and that may crush any leds you place there

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have you taken a look

little glen
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look again

tawdry tree
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Woot’s LEDs are placed at the underside of the PCB

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like all the other components

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the only difference is that the LEDs are placed over a hole

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this is the case for most keyboard PCBAs

little glen
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tries to spread misinformation
gets called out immediately
leaves

chilly mural
tawdry tree
little glen
chilly mural
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It's kinda nice, with the HE switches not having any pin on the bottom like mech do

tawdry tree
little glen
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now all your shit looks red no matter what you do on your settings

chilly mural
tawdry tree
trail bane
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Gn y’all

chilly mural
tropic urchin
tawdry tree
little glen
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the ai got confused while generating it

tawdry tree
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I can see the appeal in 2 per switch though, especially when they’re individually addressable

chilly mural
tropic urchin
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no we need 5 LEDs per switch to justify the increasing costs of meta switches

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its all you need at the end of the day

chilly mural
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4 LED on all direction + 1 on the plate

calm pulsar
tropic urchin
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how can you possibly see the RGB with only 4 LEDs

chilly mural
tropic urchin
stark osprey
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Occult build about to go hard.

spice plover
tawdry tree
chilly mural
tawdry tree
chilly mural
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for the v2 or something?

spice plover
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Beige bro you guys wanna open it with me

humble surge
# tawdry tree

gorgeous white PCB, grew to admire them due to HoF (well and some motherboards doing it nice now aswell)

tawdry tree
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yeah I like white PCBs too. white with gold/brass and black with gold are both nice imo

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I don’t care much for the color actually, as long as they’re densely populated lol

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love that the most

humble surge
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When EVGA still lived, the dream was to do a full black/gold setup with some of their products, sadly due to constraints it never came to fruition. Now since they are off the table, i turned to white and HoF in a sense.

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I still have their board in this white PC though, golden edges

vapid dock
tawdry tree
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I lovee discord outage

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had to go a whole 15minutes without woot

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server

humble surge
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Was mid sentence aswell kek

tawdry tree
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😭

humble surge
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their shotgun landed nicely though, out of like 30 servers, 5 were hit in my list at once

tawdry tree
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11 for me

humble surge
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hehh

harsh dove
tawdry tree
humble surge
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Try harder dogekek SwitchyCool

tropic urchin
humble surge
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@tawdry tree what do you think of this? (stole it from ATK)

tropic urchin
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@calm pulsar now this is the 5 LED per switch RGB smile

tropic urchin
tawdry tree
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I’ll see how dual LEDs are soon enough

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not sure if I’ll be able to live without afterwards tho

humble surge
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I guess i mean't just purely visually

tawdry tree
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ye ik haha, but I think it’s a bit brighter normally

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it seems like the switches used in that board don’t let light through very well

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oh, that isn’t a dual LED board at all?

humble surge
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I'm not sure at all, i just semi liked the visuals

tawdry tree
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just transparent keycaps

humble surge
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I personally prefer to have function keys so 80% is probably much more me.

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But the caps might be interesting

tawdry tree
humble surge
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Valid point, i think we discussed much better caps in here already anyway

tawdry tree
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I really wonder how shine-through top and side legends would look with dual LEDs in different colors

humble surge
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Also i assume (without properly understanding) that the transparency comes at the cost of something

tropic urchin
tawdry tree
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so just printed legends

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which is kinda ass

humble surge
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so it's garbo ABS yeah?

tawdry tree
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not necessarily garbo or ABS but yeah

humble surge
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hmm

tropic urchin
tawdry tree
tawdry tree
humble surge
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I just made it my goal to stay away from ABS, i have heard that there are somehow better quality variants of it today, but i think i'll just keep that habit.

tropic urchin
tropic urchin
humble surge
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I'm not gonna gamble, just staying off them

tawdry tree
humble surge
tawdry tree
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polycarbonate

humble surge
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aha

tropic urchin
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KBDfans needs to ship my salt lake caps 🥀

humble surge
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Did you show those before?

tropic urchin
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For salt lake?

humble surge
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yeah

tropic urchin
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Here’s what it is essentially, putting a few diff POVs for how they look

tropic urchin
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Left is the full alt alphas and the first on right is using mostly the white alphas

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Didn’t know my left or rights for a sec, amerikan edu moment

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Cursed twitter thumbs going too fast

humble surge
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I'm a little confused, so which full keyboard on the pictures is the set yours will look like?

tropic urchin
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That’s default, I got the side alphas too to mix and match

humble surge
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Ahh so those 4 colors

tropic urchin
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Yeah it’s complicated

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Which is why I got it

humble surge
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Well you will customize it further is what you mean

tropic urchin
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Lots of vibrancy

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Ye

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Exactly

humble surge
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i guess alt alphas mean alternative letters?

tropic urchin
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My GMK lazurite set was all blue but had an alt alpha set of white keys too

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As an example

humble surge
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They really need to ship it then, wanna see what you will make

tropic urchin
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I’ll make a variation of my current board

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Going to do a similar \ color theme but need to see how it looks

humble surge
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Thats funny, i'm almost certain i saw that blue keycap set before, even bookmarked it. But thats years and years ago, maybe it's just very similar to this.

tropic urchin
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Maybe you’re an OG smile

humble surge
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The split looks great, love the spacebar aswell, it couldn't have been either of the two colors!

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let me see

tropic urchin
spice plover
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Bro this took me forever I put the PCB standoffs opposite idk how it was even possible

humble surge
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Damn no, it wasn't the GMK cyl Lazurite, but a full set of that same color of caps with several golden decorations like that. I have no clue who the manufacturer was or what was it called. I recall very fancy though.

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But i have to say CYL Lazurite is getting added to the list, this looks awesome.

tropic urchin
humble surge
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Fair enough

tropic urchin
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Oblotzky Industries

GMK CYL Lazurite Specifications- Made in Germany by GMK electronic design GmbH- Cherry profile (1-1-2-3-4-4)- Compatible with MX style switches- 1.5mm thick double-shot ABS plastic- Designed by jaekidDisclaimersKindly note that the images are of 3D renders and are for illustration purposes only. The final colors may di

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Think it should be the same as mine iirc

humble surge
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no

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If i find it one day, you will be the first to know

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It was the same fancy blue/gold combo with decorations, but the whole set was just that, for mechanical keyboards at the time. Could be years back from 2021 even, unsure.

tropic urchin
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It’s a shame the guy behind the set only did 1-2 other ones and then dipped during his last one and is MIA ://

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So far looking forward to using my first PBT set in salt lakes and then waiting for the glory that is GMK Selene

humble surge
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Whats up with Selene? OOS or what?

tropic urchin
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There was no update since February but early August there’s an update that it’s not dead in the water so it’s still in the works

humble surge
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Ohh i thought that was a ready to buy product, i see

tropic urchin
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Nah

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IC was last October

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Technically still in it but one I’m very hype for

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If you like purple Selene will be a stunner

humble surge
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Thats not half bad, maybe i can buy by the time it would ship, short on fun money for the month atm.

tropic urchin
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You’ll have time

humble surge
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they don't go giga OOS?

tropic urchin
tropic urchin
humble surge
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So we have to lock the eff in, okay

tropic urchin
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I was the first to discover GMK Selene in here SwitchyPog

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Fact aligner is in on it means it has to be goated

humble surge
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I'm a huge space/sci-fi nerd, so those novelties appeal aswell. Wish there were more sets themed for that.

tropic urchin
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I’m a huge purple guy so the fact we get lore accurate GMK cosmos with readable legends is awesome

humble surge
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:)

tropic urchin
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And we get lunar purple keycaps with sprinkled teal and other colors is huge

humble surge
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true

tropic urchin
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I’d imagine we’ll see it to buy mid 2026

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Which SUCKS, but it is what it is

humble surge
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I don't mind, something to look forward to

tropic urchin
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True true

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Gives me time to migrate lazurite to benom and rotate salt lakes a bit

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Build is going to be WS flux + PP plate and salt lake on GT80

humble surge
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Can't wait for this silly mouse to arrive and then my Amazon DE refund coming in, then a few extra days to ship the router, so then i can have everything consolidated and ship to me. Then we setting up the wooting and new mouse aswell as the router.

tropic urchin
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New network upgrade SwitchyPog

tropic urchin
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I found that aggregator site and looked through it and found that particular set and my purple radar exploded

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Salt lake is available next week fire

warm gate
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should i tape mod my 80he even tho it has that massive sticker on the back

robust siren
warm gate
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thats what i was thinking just didnt know if a DIY tape job would be better

sacred elm
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Just use stock PET sticker

steady halo
calm pulsar
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if you're not doing at least 13 layers what are you doing even

sacred elm
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Real

calm pulsar
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humble surge
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That would be a 10 times more sick Razer KB cap upgrade than their pure green set hehh

glacial wind
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hrm canon launching new mini cinema camera competitor to sony, but no ibis. That's going to turn off a lot of the youtuber/hobby folks

glacial wind
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in body image stabilisation

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usually not used by top tier cinema level pro filmers, but heavily used by small to medium sized filmers

chilly mural
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Umu

calm pulsar
glacial wind
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Sorry Korean rules apply

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180cm or above

calm pulsar
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it's over

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I'm going to China then

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(they lifted visa restrictions)

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though I think I can go to Korea for 90 days without a visa

prime orbit
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For Wooting v2

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The stock one is pretty good out the box right?

calm pulsar
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fr4 plate, alu case, closed bottom switch

prime orbit
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Bet

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And Tikken is close to the raptor v2?

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In wobble I guess

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Idk about everything else

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Also how does fr4 compare to POM plate?

calm pulsar
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I think tikkens are ti he level of wobble, sound, but with full 4mm travel

prime orbit
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Trying to compare it to my old build I sold

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😭

calm pulsar
prime orbit
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Hmmm

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Ok

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Might get a different plate

calm pulsar
prime orbit
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I just had the raptor v2

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So idk how they compared to that

glacial wind
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60he v2 comes with a lot of foam mods and such preinstalled too

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like the poron foam under alpha keys, pet film etc

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so out of the box experience is quite nice

harsh dove
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^^

glacial wind
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plate will of course be personal preference though. I like even stiffer plates personally, so i'll probably buy an aftermarket cf plate once they're out

spice plover
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sno i finally put it together

harsh dove
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yeah I was surprised how many mods they had preinstalled

spice plover
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its so nice

glacial wind
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yeah on the v2 i don't even know what there is to mod outside of changing switches/keycaps if you want

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all the other stuff is already stock lol

harsh dove
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yeah and plate basically

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if you want a different plate

glacial wind
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even the tapemod is now proper tapemod material

harsh dove
sacred elm
calm pulsar
harsh dove
sacred elm
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Not even 7 layer

calm pulsar
harsh dove
calm pulsar
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yeah I think stock 60hev2 is looking like a complete experience, no need to mod anything even

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fr4 plate, alu case, screw in stabs

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closed bottom switch

glacial wind
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i think the only thing i'd do to stock 60he v2 is relube the stabs, but that goes for every stock built keyboard really

calm pulsar
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might even get away with lubing the stem/housing from outside with the brush and putting some grease with a syringe to the wire

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unless the wire is not balanced

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then might need to disassemble

robust siren
ruby hill
sacred elm
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Thought this was Raptor recolor?

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@fluid ravine Wake up, new fiberglass infused switches dropped

fluid ravine
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WHWRE

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HJLJF

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JSKALDJSAL;DJASKLD;

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OOHLY WHAT

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!!!!!!!!!

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HMX

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HMX!!!!!!!!!!!!

sacred elm
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Hope they don't have same issues as Raptors

fluid ravine
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MY SAVIOURS??/

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JLSDFJSDL;KA

sacred elm
fluid ravine
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OIIIIIIII

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IM DREAMINGGGGGGGG

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PA66 AND FIBERGLASLSJDLAS

sacred elm
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@tropic urchin Lock

fluid ravine
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chat

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this might be the ultimate HE clack switch

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3.3mm

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fiberglas

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PC top

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shiiiiiiiiii

sacred elm
#

I will let you test them first smile

fluid ravine
#

ermmmm im broke AyaDeed

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im at $0 :D

polar girder
#

Cheap af wtf

fluid ravine
#

FUGGGGG

sacred elm
#

Wobble should be as good as Raptor, just hope no spring crunch shit SwitchyDead

little glen
#

Now i need a shop in EU to stock them

sacred elm
little glen
#

Gonna have to spring swap them tho

#

Those springs are too light

calm pulsar
#

but fiberglass housingSwitchyPog

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pretty cool

sacred elm
little glen
#

Interestinf

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I guess now i wait for them to be in stock

#

I didnt want to spend any money on keyboards the foreseeable future but i gotta jump on that

fluid ravine
#

endgame switches for me

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trust

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Lube on rails and stem

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dry on bottom housing floor

#

godly

calm pulsar
#

I tried looking them up on aliexpress just in case but found only black knights called crystal magnetic switch lmao

glacial wind
#

that's interesting

#

not in stock though so i wonder when they actually stock it there and on other vendors

little glen
#

Sno can you test em so i dont have to

glacial wind
#

yeah i'll buy them when available

little glen
#

Wooting‘s money vs my money

sacred elm
robust siren
#

i just bought new switches

sacred elm
little glen
#

True

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Raptor v2 werent even good enough for me to have to change my underwear after trying them in my board

glacial wind
#

it would also help if korean customs didn't literally have a package of my underwear that they're taking 2 weeks to clear for some reason

glacial wind
#

they could at least let me wear them first

#

i've received like 20 packages of switches since then but somehow my meundies underwear needs 2 weeks of inspection

robust siren
#

my friend has his cabel management channels from temu held at customs for 2 months (and counting)

little glen
#

Customs want to save him from temu

glacial wind
#

i'm convinced they put the wrong import number or something on my package, but when i emailed the company to see if they needed more import information from me the only reply i got was "yes your package is in customs clearance" then closed my ticket immediately

sacred elm
#

Someone is already wearing them, forget.

glacial wind
#

maybe they were also enticed by the great meundies 50% sale recently

little glen
#

I just buy that stuff from uniqlo

#

But every time i buy some i forget how expensive it gets 😭

glacial wind
#

they do have good tshirts

#

airism oversized is the best oversized blank and supima t shirt is the best normal fit blank

little glen
#

Unfortunately i dont wear blanks smileboye

little glen
#

I‘m not stylish, i wear band merch

prime orbit
#

only thing i wear

little glen
fringe quarry
#

i agree on the airism tho

glacial wind
#

i tried the hm ones but they sucked and got ruined way faster than uniqlo tees

little glen
#

Those cheap fast fashion brands always suck

#

But tbf that kinda applies to everything now

fringe quarry
#

haven't tried hm ones but supima felt similar to other cheapish ones pretty fast

little glen
#

Too much price pressure downwards

fringe quarry
#

although the fabric is still nicer

glacial wind
#

yeah supima you're paying for just softer cotton, but it's still cotton

fringe quarry
#

can wear them below stuff for many years

glacial wind
#

the only thing with supima i don't like is their white tee is a little thinner than i'd like

fringe quarry
#

they did have some quality decrease over the years

glacial wind
#

i think their supima has always been like that though, just a thinner gsm

#

it's great in non white though, just the white can be a little see through

little glen
glacial wind
#

but trend is all oversized now so everyone just buys the airism oversized ones

fringe quarry
#

now they dont make the ones i liked anymore

#

and i got way too many slightly different versions

#

not a streamlined sorting process

prime orbit
#

wish i found some good socks

chilly mural
#

Me needs more long pants and tshirt with plain look

uneven cradle
#

Not a fan of the airism stuff personally

glacial wind
#

the oversized airism is different though to the rest of airism, it's a thicker material so not like the undershirt stuff they use for rest of line

glacial wind
uneven cradle
#

I think I have a couple airism oversized tees but they tend to make me sweat more instead of less I'd rather a plain cotton shirt

glacial wind
#

honestly though people hate spending but the lululemon pants be worth the price if you wear pants every day. absurdly expensive but they do last forever and are super comfy for pants

#

i think they're running into problem in US now where they saturated the market and their pants last so long that most people never go back and buy more pants

little glen
#

my problem with lululemon is that name

#

cant take it seriously

#

its too bouba, i want a little more kiki

glacial wind
#

i'm still curious on those pbtfans blanks that have fiberglass in them

#

they claim it adds a pop to the sound but i don't know anyone with them

little glen
#

that does sound interesting

fringe quarry
#

lcp keycaps when

little glen
#

they are pretty cheap

#

maybe ill pick em up next time i buy something from kbdfans

fringe quarry
#

estimated price is atleast $50 per keycap

#

who wants to invest

north girder
#

or tungsten

fringe quarry
north girder
fringe quarry
#

a single layer of graphene

north girder
#

imagine magnesium keycaps

little glen
#

it just explodes

steel timber
#

is pcbsnap/keysnap working with 60he ?

fallen pecan
#

Forged carbon caps

north girder
noble turret
#

Todaaay might be the day i get my 80he! 😄

#

So I can finally stop playing with my switches which i already received before I manage to break them with my brutish hands

glacial wind
#

beluga and lyla their white and black blanks

#

i'm also curious to see how they perform if the user turns on rgb because they're only 1.3mm thick

tawdry tree
glacial wind
little glen
#

ah shit i wanted to order keysnaps from deltakey and forgot

#

i think they are out of stock now

calm heath
#

jesus christ

languid kestrel
#

that's extremely cheap

austere creek
#

this is non vat and non shipping

#

also missing refinement of the file for CNC

#

and refinement of the case design for CNC/metal

languid kestrel
#

oh they don't show you the entire charge? that's cool...

austere creek
#

yeah its an estimate

#

theyll have engineers check if its doable

#

prob theyd flag some stuff in our files as they arent optimized or even made for CNC but injection molding

languid kestrel
#

thought it was binding quote

austere creek
#

lol no

languid kestrel
#

yeah no you can't machine it as is

#

that's why I said extremely cheap

austere creek
#

they also state its without vat, shipping and only for reference

languid kestrel
#

but they'll tack on at least another 100% for converting it to machinable if that's the case

austere creek
#

so i had some sheet metal stuff done with laser cutting and the quote was about 70% of the actual price and then came tax and shipping on top

#

at the end i paid like 600eur

languid kestrel
#

yeah I would have seen this if discord on mobile worked

calm heath
#

its literal just the bottom part of a two he because there is no such thing as aftermarket two he cases

languid kestrel
#

this how it looks like when you zoom in on mobile

austere creek
#

ah ok yeah

austere creek
#

and itll prob rise in price if youd submit it

calm heath
# languid kestrel yes

also really stupid question, should i have thread holes tapped in or just use the existing screws

languid kestrel
#

you need threaded holes in aluminimum

calm heath
#

but i don't have a 2d blueprint of a wooting 2 he for that

austere creek
#

id personally prob pay a CNC engineer to optimize and check the file before ordering the part

#

if you send a file itll get made for whatever that file is... if its wrong you sit on the cost

#

(i found out the 600eur hard way)

calm heath
austere creek
#

yes but the file isnt made for cnc

calm heath
#

oof

austere creek
#

its just a 3d file

languid kestrel
#

yeah it'll be extremely unnecessarily hard to machine

austere creek
#

for example all the ribbing at the bottom prob needs to go

languid kestrel
#

yep

calm heath
#

okay time to look at fiverr

austere creek
#

youd prob also not want the flipout feet function

#

and have some sort of other feet solution

#

id estimate in total for optimizing even the 3d file we give for the default case and then getting it made and shipped you prob look at 300-400 eur

languid kestrel
#

in other words what tony is saying is throw the file away and design a new case

austere creek
#

prob easier yeah

#

lol

languid kestrel
#

it's just easier and makes for a better product

#

then you can get it machined for 200-300

austere creek
#

all attempts we have seen from people so far have been completely new designs and they also ended up at the 300-400eur mark of cost

#

so price wise no difference to fixing the current case for CNCing

calm heath
#

wait thers people who already made a custom case for a two he

austere creek
#

theres a german company who tried

#

but we didnt hear from them for a year now or a year and a half after they tried to gain insight into how many would sell

#

so i assume there was no interest or not enough at least

#

which makes sense

languid kestrel
#

yeah no

#

the 3 people who want it don't wanna pay 400 for one

austere creek
#

or theyd be ready to pay the price but only if it fits other fullsize boards as well (which is a pipe dream in fullsize land)

languid kestrel
#

haha yeah also no

calm heath
austere creek
#

is it?

calm heath
#

afaik the two he is like the only decent full size hall effect keyboard

#

that has rgb support

languid kestrel
austere creek
#

ok but we never really said we wont ever do a numpad or any of the more niche formfactors really

austere creek
#

while we arent working on them we basically shelved them for later

languid kestrel
#

lies and untruths

austere creek
#

like with the wooting klein thats now the uwu

languid kestrel
#

full wooting numpad confirmed!

austere creek
#

it was shelved for years until its time came

#

(although i still prefer the original design personally)

uneven cradle
#

does have a rather large feedback post for it

austere creek
#

yeah you can go there and voice your wish for one

glossy pagoda
#

Full size best size

languid kestrel
#

yeah I personally don't think it'll sell after the 17 people who want one, buy one

#

but I'm ready to be proven wrong I guess

calm heath
languid kestrel
uneven cradle
#

true if they bring that out then they never need to refresh the Two HE

languid kestrel
#

and you never need numpad for anything anyway catsit

#

it's not about desk space for me, it's about comfort

#

having my arms 10 million miles apart is awful

calm heath
calm heath
austere creek
#

so the uwu has been shelved for a good 4yrs or so

#

i cant find a picture of the prototypes

#

sadge

languid kestrel
#

I'm just really curious what people even use a numpad for

glossy pagoda
#

Competitive excel

calm heath
ionic breach
#

the commentators was so hyped

austere creek
#

here they are

languid kestrel
#

so the airplane controls can be rebound, spreadsheets a normal person uses once a year catsit

austere creek
#

from roughly 2020

#

thats what the uwu was before it became the uwu

glossy pagoda
#

Woot Klein 🤩

languid kestrel
#

yeah I really liked that design

austere creek
#

still wish we did the quirky colors and such

#

it just looks so good

calm heath
#

welp time to find a cnc person that can make a keyboard case

languid kestrel
#

if you do it locally you'll be paying on the order of 500+ most likely

austere creek
#

@calm heath try reaching out to them maybe you got some luck

#

(afaik we never got the prototype they mentioned in the message)

calm heath
#

Or would that need a new pcb

austere creek
#

yes? youd basically just have to redesign everything

languid kestrel
#

yeah you take the pcb and design every other part anew

austere creek
#

you could use the holes for the bottom case stems that connect the topplate to screw on a plate to the pcb like we do for the 60he and 80he

#

just means you now need a custom case, custom plate and custom silicone sheet

calm heath
austere creek
#

i mean the case design is usually not the hardest part of making a keyboard

#

its expensive cause you want metal

#

thats basically all it boils down to

languid kestrel
austere creek
#

i mean personally i think youre the one that keeps escalating this. im unsure how at this point we can be dragged into the discussion

#

if you want to make your own pcb, own firmware, source parts, solder it, make your own case design and all that: go ahead by all means

languid kestrel
#

you cannot not have the same PCB if you want it to be Wootility-compatible

#

if you want to use another HE PCB, then it's not a wooting keyboard mod but another keyboard

calm heath
#

(Until theres a wooting number pad)

uneven cradle
#

even that's a lot more work than you're probably anticipating but show the results here if you do end up making one PepeBusiness

calm heath
austere creek
#

in theory yes

#

in practice it probably faces some of the same issues CNCing the STP file has although i wouldnt know which or if thats really the case

little glen
#

i would just recommend designing a new bottom case (you can use the original as a base ofc to get the measurements right and the screw locations etc)

calm heath
tropic urchin
trail bane
north girder
glacial wind
#

Hrm was your gateron tactile that didn’t bottom out tested in an 80he for you @north girder

north girder
#

tactile on the right
tge switch i had problems with on the right

glacial wind
#

Ah okay interesting

#

Because I’m running some tests on switch stability right now and I can get the weird bottom out issues on my 60he v2 but not on my 80he or 60he

#

So going to ask Simon and see what’s up

glacial wind
#

Sparks

north girder
#

also do u use the same switch or do u have each of them kitted with different switches

glacial wind
#

Emeralds have different travel distance so they might be fine

#

Same switch

north girder
#

thats odd

glacial wind
#

I think maybe the v2 software I’m using just isn’t finished maybe but going to check and see what’s going on

north girder
#

i had some of my raptor v2s not instantly autocalibrate but they calibrated within 5 full presses aswell

glacial wind
#

It is an alpha version after all

#

yeah calibrating within a few presses is how it’s supposed to work right now

#

And that’s what happens with the sparks too in my 80he and 60he

#

Just not the v2

north girder
glacial wind
#

I’ll check internally to see what’s up, but will be nice if this means it’s only a v2 unfinished software thing and the switches work fine on finished software

glacial wind
#

The problem is more of it does it where it doesn’t calibrate within that 5-10 seconds or whatever it is

#

Then you have an issue with compatibility/software

glacial wind
#

hrm simon or someone may have already fixed the spark compatibility thing @north girder - now my v2 is able to work with sparks fine too (although it does take slightly longer to figure it out)

#

i'm going to swap my v2 back to sparks full build for abit and see if it's fixed

north girder
#

or some beta i can participate in?

#

well i wont use my geon jade sparks until my cf plate arrives anyways

tawdry tree
north girder
tawdry tree
#

compatibility should be the same as Jades (if they used the same magnet properties).

tawdry tree
#

no split stem for Emeralds

glacial wind
#

i'm testing it now on my v2 to see, but the sparks compensated fine on my 80he and 60he

tired bay
#

hey guys, i just got my wooting 80he n wootility on chrome cant detect is as a hid device

#

but my pc settings says its there

glacial wind
#

okay yep still same issues. It's just that some keys take a lot of data and time to trigger the calibration because they're so far below normal magnetic range @north girder

trail bane
glacial wind
#

so will have to wait for switch tester to really make them work well

ionic breach
tired bay
ionic breach
#

the holy80 is meant as a case for the wooting but kbdfans also made their own inhouse pcb for it

tired bay
#

ohh

#

no wonder

#

cuz friend built it for me

ionic breach
#

i would use this software

tired bay
#

he told me to use via

trail bane
# ionic breach <:havo:975821613415157860>

It’s just that something tells me that if he didn’t change the keyboard name in the settings and it’s originally displayed as Holy80, then it’s definitely not a Wooting

ionic breach
#

should be this one

tired bay
#

what would you recommend to control rgb

trail bane
tired bay
#

he bent the pins on like 10 of my switches

#

my damn five aint working

tawdry tree
#

https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/j88ZGoOMQ6P6 if only they had a black option, would go hard with black and gold. that R6 set would look great on the off-white one.

tawdry tree
little glen
#

if its gh60 compatible i'd be super interested

tawdry tree
#

they list surprisingly little lol

little glen
#

yeah cant even spot the usb port

tawdry tree
#

it’s gasket so a custom plate could potentially work

tawdry tree
paper bison
#

man can it be q4 already i want my damn tikkens

#

the owlabs are nice but CMON SCimgoinginsane

little glen
#

Get the new hmx switches with fiberglass bottom

paper bison
#

i just ordered the holy80 too

tropic urchin
#

Time to crunch max

paper bison
#

finally making my endgame 80 after making my 60

tropic urchin
#

@sweet oak we got more switches to crunch smile

tropic urchin
#

Raptors were tasty, now we need reinforced teeth for the new crystals

#

Fiberglass bottoms aren’t going to crunch itself

north girder
robust siren
#

guys fiberglass isnt safe to consoom wires

little glen
# north girder wich one is it
UniKeys

HMX Crystal HE Magnetic Gaming Switch The HMX Crystal He switch is HMX's answer to the HE Magnetic switch trend. It features a super-fast RT of 0.01, which is on par with some of the best-performing HE switches in the market. They are compatible with all major HE Magnetic keyboards in the market. All you need to do is

north girder
#

so ill get 90 tikkens for pocket change

paper bison
#

doubt they'll be super expensive in the first place ngl

#

most of us will be buying the switches alone

north girder
paper bison
#

light

tropic urchin
robust siren
tropic urchin
#

Checkmate damn

north girder
tropic urchin
#

Hopefully they chose the nice flavor for sparkling waters

#

Knowing Gateron they probably chose lemon or some shii

north girder
#

ITS WATER NOT A SODA U GODDAMN AMERICAN

tropic urchin
humble surge
#

Clippy Incarnate is on several layers of irony, we can't comprehend

north girder
tidal frigate
polar girder
#

Room temp is the best temp

#

I add warm water to my cold water

north girder
tidal frigate
little glen
#

jakub pls dont start talking about your bucket

north girder
ruby bay
#

Hello someone can tell me if its mandatory to add this to the order pls ? i only want change my case and keycaps btw if someone have a good balck and orange keycaps ansi cherry with arabic legends that will be great ty all
Image

little glen
#

not needed but its nice for more weight and different sound

#

but if you dont care then you dont need it

little glen
#

this looks like tofu

jade narwhal
#

oh i see the weight filler foam

polar girder
#

Case is solid without it tho. But improves feel and acoustics.

ionic breach
#

the bar is there to reduce some resonance (vibrations) but if u dont wanna spend the extra the foam is the cheaper alternative

glacial wind
#

it's interesting just how much that silencing mechanism affects the accuracy of switches

#

been testing switch magnet compatibility all day, man those silencing dampeners make all the switches have so much variance

#

i knew it affected it a lot, but seeing it visually in the switch tester tools with how just pressing slightly off axis or slightly less pressure at bottom/top changes the variance of silenced switches so much

ruby bay
#

@ionic breach @polar girder but there is the same things in my wooting right ?

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
humble surge
little glen
#

😭

ionic breach
humble surge
#

Might be worth a blind order next month, small science project, might end up being an extra 60% keyboard hehh

tawdry tree
little glen
#

i just want a neo cu case that fits wooting

tawdry tree
#

buy venom

polar girder
ionic breach
#

venom time

polar girder
#

Although I think if you bought module you’re fine

#

Yeah I love my venom

little glen
#

venom is nice

#

i think i'll give mine away once i get my hands on split space 60hev2

reef oar
ionic breach
#

tho im going to go insane waiting for neo ergo cu

humble surge
#

What is venom exactly? i have seen the name thrown around now a few times

ionic breach
#

context: wooting is spiderman here

glacial wind
#

but he can be a nice guy at times

ionic breach
#

joke

humble surge
#

When you joke even though the context is obvious dogekek

#

But yeah

ionic breach
#
GEONWORKS

Product Features - Web-based firmware (https://venom.how/)- RISC-V32 architecture applied- Supports 8KHz polling rate / 14KHz scan rate per key- 0.16ms latency- Custom PCB standard specifications- Daughterboard and JST connector included Product Malfunction Check Points - Use USB 2.0 high-speed or higher A TO C cable-

humble surge
#

ohh Geon's take on a 60HE PCB, much appreciated

ruby bay
little glen
#

what case did you buy

humble surge
#

I'm also interested to see

ruby bay
steady halo
ionic breach
humble surge
#

I'm not concerned with that, i just wanted to know what people were talking about

frozen briar
#

anyone know where i can find keycaps similar to these

ionic breach
#

u like a different colour?

steady halo
ionic breach
ruby bay
#

I want an aluminum case bcs my wooting60he since the first day do not stabilise and when i hit a key he is twerking

humble surge
ionic breach
#

oh its alu?

#

thats quite cheap for alu

ruby bay
#

Yeah if it is lol

#

But if the commentary is real that's it

tawdry tree
ionic breach
final moth
#

any modding yall reccomend for stock 80he?

little glen
frozen briar
#

the japanese letters and similar color if possible @ionic breach

humble surge
#

I can agree there, but the color and general style? i'm really impressed by those

little glen
#

none of these japanese sublegend fans know a word of japanese

little glen
ruby bay
#

I want buy an arabic legends ainsi cherry keycaps in black or orange but its impossible to find im sad

steady halo
#

@tawdry tree good news

#

u want to hear it?

tawdry tree
#

freewheeler?

steady halo
humble surge
#

Btw was there any update on the knobs dials for wooting? i admit i didn't pay much attention since first learning about them about a month ago.

little glen
#

if you want more stable switches, swap those, if you want diff sound swap switches, plate, maybe different foams and if you dont like the look you can change the case @final moth

ionic breach
#

btw kkb cooked with this

tawdry tree
# steady halo

ATLAS international or 60HE v2? which is gonna come first?

#

bets are open

steady halo
humble surge
ionic breach
#

thats all nthing else

tawdry tree
final moth
# little glen depends what you want to achieve

I could care less abt sound and stuff unless its ridiculously loud which i dont think from reviews ive seen, mostly concerned with performance aspects and was wondering how big the difference is between lekker 45/60 for gaming responsiveness/feel

ruby bay
steady halo
#

but venom rgb will be the first

little glen
steady halo
#

next month (if no issues / late)

little glen
#

if you want to change something, i would start off with switches and experimenting with different foams and maybe poly fill

tawdry tree
final moth
#

should i get the wrist rest if i got small hands? i feel like it would be helpful but didnt include in my first order w the 80he

little glen
#

there are certain switches that are commonly recommended

humble surge
little glen
tawdry tree
#

25th or so

steady halo
#

but international

#

finally

#

i will purchase that girl

final moth
# little glen

do lekker tikken switches wobble? is that what it means by stability/precision for helios n raptor?

steady halo
little glen
#

lekker tikken wobble is good but they are not out yet

tawdry tree
steady halo
#

i want an honest review