#šŸ”§ā”‚keyboard_modding

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uncut basin
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yeah makes sense

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could you describe it to me then?

glacial wind
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we have videos on our youtube of friction fit for example, but you're not going to find one specific config repeated across videos (which is something i'm trying to fix when i get around to the case videos for our youtube)

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the tl;dr is any mount that isolates the pcb will give you what most say is a better sound

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so friction fit, gasket etc will all 'improve' the sound for most

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any of them is honestly fine

tawdry tree
glacial wind
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to avoid getting overwhelmed, just assume any of them beyond tray mount is a fine improvement sound wise

uncut basin
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hmm alright

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wait the gt-60 isn’t friction?

tawdry tree
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it isn’t

glacial wind
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nope, it's gasket or top mount

ionic breach
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its gasket or top

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some cases have multiple ways of mounting

tawdry tree
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friction on tray mount still has hot spots though, so it isn’t perfect imo

uncut basin
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i might get that with the cf plate to try something new

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i can’t use my pc plate with it right?

tawdry tree
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nope

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it uses a custom plate for both gasket and top mount

uncut basin
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oh cool

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what about the optimum case?

tawdry tree
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that’d be the same as getting a friction pad with your tofu

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it’s tray with friction too

glacial wind
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it's a fine case, again you'd be buying for aesthetics

uncut basin
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and with that i can use the pc plate?

tawdry tree
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ye

uncut basin
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thank you guys for your help

glacial wind
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yeah any of the friction fit options you can just use your current plate or 3rd party plate if you want

uncut basin
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oh one last thing. i just looked at faq and i saw that there’s a raptor v2 switch out now. i use owlabs now but are those a meaningful upgrade?

tawdry tree
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nah

glacial wind
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eh i wouldn't worry about them unless you specifically are someone chasing stability

tawdry tree
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they’re more stable but have issues

glacial wind
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owlab imo sound and feel better

uncut basin
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i noticed jade to raw and raw to owlab

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oh what really

glacial wind
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raptor v2 are just on there because they're good all-rounder and very stable

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but sound wise owlab are better personally

uncut basin
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ah okay

uncut basin
tawdry tree
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spring crunch

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at bottom out you can hear the spring crunch on some

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I wouldn’t recommend them

tropic urchin
# uncut basin ah okay

Raptors are deeper sounding, but have issues with the spring rubbing the bottom housing so it has a spring crunch feel/sound sometimes. Doesn’t happen always, but it’s annoying on movement keys

glacial wind
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it seems to be a very specific type of usage too for it to happen

thorny wave
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Can I use tofu60 housing for wooting 60he+?

tawdry tree
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raptor v3s will save us

uncut basin
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oh yeah i’ll definitely pass then

glacial wind
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i wonder if it's repetitive quick press or something

tawdry tree
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no actually

tropic urchin
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I’ve only personally noticed it on forward and backwards keys but yeah it’s annoying

glacial wind
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because i still haven't been able to get any of mine doing that spring crunch thing

tropic urchin
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But then again I’m using PP flux build so that says a lot about that

tawdry tree
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the tofu redux works fine though

tropic urchin
glacial wind
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i'm so curious as to what the exact movement cause of it is

tropic urchin
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If you play OSU it seems it happens very fast

tawdry tree
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the spring is loose

glacial wind
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because then i could put it on the database notes, but i can't get it to replicate or happen myself

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yeah osu i assume it's the repetitive fast thumping somehow doing it

tawdry tree
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it can move all over the place

tropic urchin
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Also @tawdry tree do you know of a fix to help solidify the left shift sink of my PP plate by any chance

glacial wind
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but they are also in my stiffest board with the 80he cf setup so maybe that makes it harder to happen

tawdry tree
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if you do end up going with the gt-60, you probably want a PCB-mount plate.

tropic urchin
sacred elm
thorny wave
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who can link tofu redux?

tropic urchin
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If you can fix it, you’re the goat regardless of Raeds opinion

tawdry tree
tropic urchin
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Sound is fine

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It’s just feel whenever I use left shift it just sinks down and is too flexy

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I put the silicone back in and it helped stabilize the center keys a lot but now it’s just left shift is the flex weak point

tawdry tree
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happens with other switches too?

tawdry tree
tropic urchin
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I could try to put other switches in that area, not sure it would work bc I think it’s a silicone + PP plate softness issue

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Soft on soft type shii

uncut basin
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the one that says support magnetic switches and pcb mount stabs?

thorny wave
glacial wind
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you guys are too spoiled for choices now. We need to go back to the days of everyone trying to buy og tofu cases on resale market for $100 each

tawdry tree
# uncut basin what do you mean?

it’s not that big of a deal but a plate that supports PCB-mount stabs specifically offers a wider range of support for PCB-mounted stabs šŸ˜‚

uncut basin
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oh word thank you

tropic urchin
tawdry tree
tawdry tree
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and plate*

uncut basin
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oh yeah while i’m here is there any real difference between the screw in stabs in the + and the clip in ones i have?

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i think i upgraded the stabs on these anyways but wanted to ask

tawdry tree
# thorny wave South korea

KBDFans themselves probably, I don’t know a retailer that stocks the redux cases but maybe sno knows

glacial wind
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screw ins are technically less inclined to have sounds, but both can be tuned to reasonable level

tropic urchin
# tawdry tree and plate*

Yeah. PP and silicone pad together was very flexy, but since I put the cutout silicone back it stabilized it a bit. But now just the left shift side is being too flexy for me

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Rivions mentioned maybe DIY key snaps could help maybe but might not be compatible

glacial wind
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geon sells tofu cases iirc @thorny wave

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check geon naver store

tawdry tree
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why is there so much flex there though

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is the plate not supported?

tropic urchin
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It’s the softest plate mixed with silicone soft gasket mount probably is contributing to it vs having no plate foam or similar on venom would be a very different feel

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Hence why cam probably wouldn’t have that issue

thorny wave
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Can anyone tell me the information of this keycap?

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Or please recommend other keycaps!

tawdry tree
tropic urchin
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I don’t think it’s tolerance related since it was a custom plate from Tom and his usually are good from personal reviews

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Bad luck combo

tawdry tree
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which switches?

tropic urchin
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Flux best in the biz

tawdry tree
manic hound
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Damn why do you wooting staff care about your product so much

tawdry tree
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yeah, apart from supporting the PCB from below with silicone or something, I don’t think there’s another option.

manic hound
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Customer service and support is unmatched

tropic urchin
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That’s what I figured would need to happen

tawdry tree
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is there less flex in another corner, like esc for example?

tropic urchin
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I’ll take a look in a few hrs

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I’m in my j*b corner atm

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If you find any silicone pad/pieces lmk, I’m on the hunt for them as we speak

tawdry tree
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don’t you have an eraser or something? just to try

tropic urchin
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I could find one

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I figured you’d want something with more height and surface area

tawdry tree
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rather just go back to PC then or something, surely?

tropic urchin
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Pp is too poppy and PC is dead inside

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Hard hard no to PC plate

tropic urchin
sacred elm
robust siren
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@sacred elm should i go back to fr4 or stay on pc when i get my switches pepe_notes

sacred elm
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Test both šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

robust siren
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for sure

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its coming in on the weekend, should have time

tropic urchin
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If the only switch that sounds normal on it is the most loud switch available there is a problem

sacred elm
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With Fluxies it's fine imo, other switches are dead yeah

tropic urchin
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IMO

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Such a nice balance

robust siren
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ill double check if i have the fr4 plate, it might be at a friends house

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switches dont arrive till next week

white robin
tropic urchin
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I’ll prob stick to PP plate since I like the poppyness

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Just need to figure out how to get left shift to stop it’s flex sink

polar girder
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Tried fr4?

tropic urchin
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I liked FR4 for a while on flux, but lil too loud for me now. The right amount is on PP for me now. I originally didn’t like PP when the silicone cut out was out bc then it made flux feel weird accuracy wise, but having it back it’s rock solid

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If my price to pay is weird left shift I’ll probably live with it, but just need to find the right silicone pad for that area of the GT80 case

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Surely I could tape up the weird foam sent by Toronto keyboard man right

tropic urchin
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But all of those prob aren’t going to be good for what I want so we chillin

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POM harsh, PC sucks, PP is nice, FR4 was nice before, alu is ok, CF is ok

polar girder
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Yeah fair

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Yeah PP is goated for sound

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Feel is just trash IMO

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but happy if it works for you

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Hope you can fix your left shift lol

kind helm
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i paid like <10 dolla for the pp plate i brought

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but thats pre trump

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aka 5 months ago

tropic urchin
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<10 is straight Gateron economy shipping speed so idc really

tropic urchin
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It is a lil flexy but with full silicone on 80HE the feel is very uniform and solid

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Haven’t tried benom

tropic urchin
tropic urchin
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From Canada

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Now that I’m looking back it’s bc they used DHL

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Actually no FedEx bc DHL lets you pay online and FedEx are weirdos

north girder
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how the fuck do i use that website???
how would i even order a iso 80he plate there im confused

tropic urchin
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I’d ask in his discord if he can do ISO (which you’ll find on his site)

little glen
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He can do iso he cut it for me

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I did send the file tho

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But he should have it now probably

tropic urchin
manic hound
north girder
sacred elm
north girder
tropic urchin
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If you don’t want it, don’t select it

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I gave him full control bc I trust his judgment for plates given thockfather’s high praise for 3rd party plates

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All I did was show you what I selected for my order and it came out great

little glen
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The file on github is the full keyboard i think

north girder
polar girder
tropic urchin
polar girder
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Understandable

little glen
tropic urchin
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I was tweaking out

north girder
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cant wait for my cf plate

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i like stiffness

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are there any stiffer gaskets for my 80 he?

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out of pc or so

little glen
north girder
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can u extract the gasket file aswell ?

little glen
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why do you need that

north girder
little glen
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i would not recommend it

north girder
little glen
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the silicone one is already fairly stiff

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plus its 3 dimensional so the cost would skyrocket

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the stock ones are injection molded i think

north girder
little glen
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i mean you can ask, sure

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i dont have the gasket file tho

tropic urchin
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@tawdry tree after further inspection maybe the silicone pad is needed for all 4 corners since that seems to be where it goes lil wild

tawdry tree
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just the thickness that is tricky

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you could just get a thin sheet (1mm) and stack multiple

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that way you can tune how stiff it’ll be as well

trail bane
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Gn

rigid obsidian
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Anyone got a layout for the wooting 80 he ISO. Got some keycaps and for the life of me don’t know where some of them go. Any help would be appreciated

tropic urchin
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you may have questionable tastes with raeds, but goat shit @tawdry tree

tropic urchin
# tawdry tree you could just get a thin sheet (1mm) and stack multiple
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i was thinking getting 2x and then cutting it up and layering it on each corner

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500x500mm is pretty large so i think it SHOULD be enough

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2 artisan pads of material

tawdry tree
tropic urchin
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hmm

tawdry tree
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rly no clue about the space below the PCB in the gt-80

tropic urchin
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5mm?

tawdry tree
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you can get 2 pieces out of a 500x500mm sheet

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so u should be good with 2

tawdry tree
tropic urchin
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maybe 3 or 4

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surely

tawdry tree
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it’ll be fineeeee

tropic urchin
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everything else is god awful on ebay for silicone sheets and rest is like fuckin mats

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ill get 4

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if thats not enough im jumping off my house

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will be the last post you see from me

tropic urchin
tropic urchin
stoic ocean
tawdry tree
tropic urchin
tawdry tree
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3 horizontal one veritcal

stoic ocean
tropic urchin
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center is good now, but the 4 corners of the keyboard has some flex issues

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so im using silicone sheets to help prop it up

stoic ocean
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Why you dont put it in bottom case

tropic urchin
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thats the plan anyway

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cutting up the silicone sheets into 4 and then placing them to prevent flex

stoic ocean
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I have a keyboard with flex too and i put mlv to improve the sound and this sht is not soft

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The flex is almost gone

tropic urchin
tawdry tree
tropic urchin
tawdry tree
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for the case, you need pieces the size of 330 wide and 120 tall

tawdry tree
tropic urchin
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im going with 3 in case anything gets fucked up in the process

tawdry tree
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they’re not as expensive as fluxies surely?

tropic urchin
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just $40

tawdry tree
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šŸ’€

tropic urchin
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kinda cringe but the more you introduce new variables the more often some shit bound to go wrong

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its the difference of like $30 and $40

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not crazy difference

tawdry tree
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still expensive

tropic urchin
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it is what it is

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$13 per sheet vs ebays $45-50

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pick your poison xD

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appreciate your help tho @tawdry tree SwitchyHeart

tawdry tree
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if you go broke, you cans ell some fluxies to cover the cost

tropic urchin
tawdry tree
tropic urchin
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now that the middle isnt sagging since the alpha silicone is back in, PP Flux is now going to be perma build until something new comes out that isnt deeply flawed

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tired of this shit dawg

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GIVE ME 45G LONG SPRING SWITCHES THAT ARENT POM AND DONT SUCK/HAVE SPRING CRUNCH

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FUCK

tropic urchin
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fr tho

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geon was the savior and then HMX said "bet"

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
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geon too for not pressing HMX

tropic urchin
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i know i really liked how cam's sounded

wintry pollen
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thinking of the getting the jade pros HE, any thoughts on better alternatives before I buy?

tropic urchin
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If you want the deeper profile I’d also try UR ice ultra/phylina thunderbolts (box stem version)

wintry pollen
# tropic urchin Owlab ti he

any particular reason its better? Looking to use them for everyday use, but also for esports titles while streaming. sound is important, but def prefer performance

tropic urchin
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That are cheaper than Jade pros

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You can get them but they’re not a great value proposition

wintry pollen
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I see, ill do some research on the owl lab ones then, TY!

tropic urchin
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If you check the pins, Sno has a quick stability and sound test for the current switches @wintry pollen

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The best Gateron switch rn is looking like the Spark but is an expensive choice

wintry pollen
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hmm ok

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do you have any review videos that you recommend to watch?

tropic urchin
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For the sparks nothing that comes to mind but I believe both @glacial wind and @stray tiger have them and can give you their thoughts on em

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Wooting is also launching the new Tikken switches by end of year that will have comparable stem wobble to the owlab ti he and will have a deeper/poppy sound profile as well so worth keeping an eye on

stray tiger
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Avoid the sparks for now. They are difficult to get sounding great (IMHO) and there are a few reports of inconsistent sensor readings due to the magnets being too weak for the new "floating" magnet design in the sparks. This might be something that is addressed via firmware at some point, but not today.

tropic urchin
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Even the best that Gateron has to offer has issues ooof

chilly mural
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I feel like they're cursed lmao

stray tiger
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I don't know the details but I think because of the new floating design the magnets sit higher up than normal switches but they didn't compensate for this with stronger magnets.

chilly mural
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it's alright, I'm sure the wizard at wooting can fix it

tropic urchin
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It seems the only way I’m going to get what I want in current switch meta looks to be sticking it out with fluxies PP plate

tulip rapids
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i know this is random but boys im purchasing my first artisan mouse pad tn

chilly mural
paper bison
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I just bought my 3rd one earlier

manic hound
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I’ve used the same hayate otsu for 6 years

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I’m not even joking either lol

tropic urchin
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Otsu was my first too smile

paper bison
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my first was a zero xxl soft which i still use

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then bought a type99 in matcha green xl xsoft which i gave to my brother

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and just ordered a xl soft raiden few hours ago and some of the mizogomu mouse skates to try

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type99 was too soft and wanted something v fast, was either a raiden or glass

tulip rapids
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for the safe choice but i been eyeing key 83 and hein

paper bison
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Zero is good, Hein is really abrasive and uncomfortable but the Key83’s hexagonal weave is good, if the raiden is too fast for me I’ll get the Key83

tulip rapids
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i know mid is more of a glass pad feel

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then im getting obsidian air dots for my beast x pro

tulip rapids
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i dont want to be uncomfortable when i game

sacred elm
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Hien is literally a sandpaper

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I swapped it in a week

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Disgusto

tropic urchin
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I thought otsu was abrasive

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Ooof

sacred elm
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Hien is their most textured pad

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Hien > Otsu > Key83 I think

tropic urchin
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Sounds about right

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Key83 does feel like a zero fan wanted their own Raiden but tailored it down a bit speed wise

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For a texture hater (me) it’s pretty smooth without a lot of the abrasiveness found in other textured artisan pads

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@sacred elm I need to try Jade dots on it

obtuse brook
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are the MATHEW HE Silent good ?

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like 8k pulling fast and not much noice

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need it for GD so yeah i care about being fast

uneven cradle
obtuse brook
uneven cradle
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if you want silent switches they're probably the best option at the moment

sacred elm
obtuse brook
obtuse brook
sacred elm
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Yep

obtuse brook
sacred elm
obtuse brook
sacred elm
obtuse brook
sacred elm
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I doubt. Difference is less than 1ms.

obtuse brook
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hopefully they come out with a 8k version someday would love the build quality of a uwu with 8k

ionic breach
obtuse brook
tulip rapids
obtuse brook
obtuse brook
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2.77

tulip rapids
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just gotta wait for my vendor to get more since they only have xsoft 🤢

tidal frigate
obtuse brook
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chill

tulip rapids
obtuse brook
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yo

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is it worth to get swtich sample packs?

glacial wind
slender frost
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Can you buy a premade tape mod?

tulip rapids
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not hard to do it yourself

ionic breach
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yes

glacial wind
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some keyboard shops/brands do sell precut tape mod things, although like goku said it's really easy to just do it yourself

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although honestly a lot of switches i don't really think tapemod adds much or makes them better

slender frost
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Just something like blue painters tape?

ionic breach
slender frost
trail bane
void hollow
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oh im back

void hollow
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any 60he case list?

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feel like swapping XD

glacial wind
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The case list would be absurdly long since 60% has a million compatible cases

void hollow
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wow you're still alive

glacial wind
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better to ask here if you find a case you like and see if it’s compatible

void hollow
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does cam remember me 🌚

glacial wind
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How do you know this isn’t a dream

void hollow
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and does tenz still visit

void hollow
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holy60?

glacial wind
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not sure what you mean by hits

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Holy60 wasn’t all that popular honestly, cause of the whole sound thing

void hollow
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yea because of the physics of the case just letting sound loose huh

thorn zealot
little glen
polar girder
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Yeh I like Leggera most for affordable aesthetic case

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Not the heaviest but pretty nice

woven parrot
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This is my brother doing sound test

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Is it a good keeb?

humble surge
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I don't know which it is, but the switches/caps sound good. Also it seems 60%.

tender edge
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Any stabilizer recomendation? Tx ap 1.6 screw in, durock v3 or meletrix v3.1 silica ver?

tropic urchin
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Run stock or knight stabs from Swagkeys/typeplus x yikb

steady halo
tawdry tree
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(ultra rare gat defense holy)

tropic urchin
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now gateron is an afterthought

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and that wasnt that long ago ;_;

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roughly this time last year

tawdry tree
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yeah

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kinda crazy how many magnetic switch manus there are now

paper bison
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owlab my beloved

tropic urchin
thorn zealot
tawdry tree
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šŸ’€

tawdry tree
glacial wind
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I’m sure if they could go back they’d pick a better range that was more compatible with everyone else

hearty path
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What are the best lp stabilizers for Wooting 60 he with Gateron jade pro

manic hound
trail bane
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Nothing new in he industryPepecry

manic hound
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Huge might though depending on the tech that comes out

trail bane
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Q4 will save us

trail bane
hearty path
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Thanks

hearty path
trail bane
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M yeah

hearty path
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Thanks

glacial wind
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You mean v4 now for knights lol

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The v3 was very quick

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At least the v naming scheme is gone now from v4 onwards

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They just list them as knight stabs

lyric nimbus
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anyone recommend a keyboard case for the 2he?

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
lyric nimbus
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something to store my 2he in and carry around

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i dont feel like shoving it in my backpack

tropic urchin
lyric nimbus
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yeah

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travel case

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also preferrably stores the wristrest too

tawdry tree
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TX has full size carrying cases iirc

tropic urchin
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you probably wont find one for both the wrist rest and keyboard, but anything full sized prob would be fine

tender edge
tawdry tree
# tender edge 80he

then you’re good, the 80HE is compatible with all the recommended options whereas the 60HE is not.

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Was just checking. :)

trail bane
tropic urchin
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Or atleast that’s one of them

simple pagoda
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is the gt-80 a good case?

tropic urchin
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If you like to swap plates or switches it’s by far the best experience

tidal frigate
chilly mural
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what about the 10s

trail bane
chilly mural
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in english, not by AI, less than 50 words

calm pulsar
trail bane
calm pulsar
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it's russiansmile

tropic urchin
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i dont believe you

tidal frigate
trail bane
tidal frigate
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Basicly the same thing

trail bane
chilly mural
trail bane
calm pulsar
tidal frigate
calm pulsar
trail bane
tropic urchin
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if you're following jakub's conclusions theres a bigger issue at hand

trail bane
calm pulsar
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ah

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I'm over here wishing I could throw my controller into a wall cause some silksong runbacks are insane

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probably would be better on a keyboard but im too used to controller nowsmile

chilly mural
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waiting for sale

tropic urchin
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its $20 tf you mean waiting for a sale

calm pulsar
chilly mural
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jk, im waiting a week until I see more review, should be long enough to have at least 10000 people beating it already

tropic urchin
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i was about to say technically new IEM would fund a house

tidal frigate
chilly mural
harsh dove
shrewd onyx
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Anyone know him

languid kestrel
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i don't know him

polar girder
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Know who

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
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SwitchyActually⁹⁹⁹

trail bane
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Gn actually

tropic urchin
# polar girder Know who

Pic is removed, but it’s almost always some random Roblox admin discord user or some shit

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Yes I know this guy that’s a Roblox admin of a 5 person server SwitchyActually

thorn zealot
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@kind helm are u still usin that ftip mod on the op1

bitter epoch
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what would be the best switch for typing? I used browns and l60 V2 feels too heavy for me, I don't care about sound

simple pagoda
robust siren
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anyone here try the gt60 case šŸ‘€

tulip rapids
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bro wants to leave the goated tofu 60 redux

robust siren
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but they force me to buy a plate

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160 after shipping šŸ’”

fallen pecan
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Morkblade mk60 gh60 case, 599 yuan for black and pink, 699 for rose gold

fluid ravine
fallen pecan
#

supports tray, gasket and top

thorn zealot
glacial wind
#

Daiso has betrayed me. Their labels do not stick

#

That’s what I get for buying 100 labels for a dollar I guess

chilly mural
glacial wind
#

Can’t wait to buy that tape from daiso as well

sacred elm
austere creek
#

miku miku dance?

glacial wind
#

Seems fine to me

stoic ocean
#

@glacial wind what do think about jerrzi ruyi ?

little glen
glacial wind
stoic ocean
glacial wind
#

not right now but I’ll have official sound tests for everything once I have enough samples

#

I only have maybe 4-6 of the ruyi so I need more to do a proper sound tests

tranquil lake
#

for me, mmd c1's are more stable than owlabs ti he.

#

i;ve noticed that wobble on owlabs is qc-based, few of my switches were extremly wobble upside-down idk why

glacial wind
#

I think outside of exceptions with pole guide and such it’s becoming way too hard to make feel based guesses on stability

#

There’s minor variance between even switches of the same batch, I just tend to group most stuff into roughly same category and call it good

#

Most of the switches from recent gen are so similar in stability it barely matters outside of the pole guided ones

trail bane
glacial wind
#

I need to clear out more room

#

storing the switches is becoming an issue

trail bane
glacial wind
#

That might make accessibility an issue

trail bane
chilly mural
sacred elm
#

Should I try them thonk

tranquil lake
sacred elm
#

Raptors are the opposite of premium

tawdry tree
tranquil lake
#

and sound wise raptors are more "repetitive"?

tawdry tree
#

C1s are without spring crunch and without a frictiony feel afaik.

#

The only thing I noticed so far with them is the same minor stickiness at the start of the press.

#

Like Raw HEs have.

sacred elm
#

Raptor friction was fine, spring crunch was 🤮

tranquil lake
#

yep, but not in all of them

sacred elm
#

That's temporary

tranquil lake
#

i replied to aligner

tawdry tree
#

That's temporary

tranquil lake
#

ouf

tawdry tree
#

(spring crunch not being in all of them)

sacred elm
#

Yes

tawdry tree
austere creek
#

thats temporary

sacred elm
#

Is it temporary

tranquil lake
#

thank you for pointing it out

glacial wind
#

are mmd c1s pole guided?

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i haven't pulled apart mine yet

#

okay played around with them a little bit, they do seem stable, although raptors still a tad more

tranquil lake
#

for me

  1. raptors 2. mmd 3. owlabs
glacial wind
#

yeah mmd are definitely more in the owlab/tikkens etc level of stable

#

but that's still fine, i don't think it necessarily is a win to be more stable if it comes at cost of friction stuff

#

their pitch is a bit higher

#

i need to try them out in my non cf 80he

#

in cf 80he mmd c1 sound really isn't going to fit most peoples taste sound wise

#

Don’t mind the kdrama in the background lol. Here’s a real rough example

tranquil lake
#

yeah its not the best switch sound wise

#

but for sure best for that price

#

crazy cheap

glacial wind
#

yeah they were dirt cheap

#

i ordered 110 just to have 90 to throw into a build for one of our influencers and it was still only like $18 or whatever lol

tranquil lake
#

yeah, i paid 20$ for 90 on ali

glacial wind
#

tikkens still sound best on my cf 80he out of the options i've tried

tranquil lake
#

tikkens might be best all-rounder, lets hope for that

glacial wind
#

it sounds better than the friction fit v2 for me, but i like a less muted sound so i need cf to make it brighter for me lol

#

i assume average person isn't going to be like me and will appreciate more muted v2 friction fit sound

#

man phone recordings cut the high end so much

#

watching that mmd recording the higher pitched light clack doesn't come out as much

peak breach
glacial wind
#

yeah tikkens sound real nice to me on CF

#

it's a problem though that i've become used to split spacebar for some games, so I need to use the v2. I may need to order a cf plate for my own personal v2

azure barn
#

What keycap comes with the prebuilt 80he zinc alloy

glacial wind
#

ansi is the doubleshot pbt isn't it? I think iso you pick at checkout don't you?

glacial wind
#

oh it's lekker v2 L60

#

those are the standard prebuilt switches

azure barn
#

Are they good for gaming/ some writing?

#

I dont care about the sound

glacial wind
#

if you don't care about sound then in general most switches are fine

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
#

release date is unknown still

chilly mural
#

prop before 60hev2

tawdry tree
#

hopefully

#

it’s been in the works for over a year

#

actually, half a year

spice plover
#

@glacial wind hey weird question with my build tomorrow. Was wondering if you encountered anything ā€œbetterā€ but on the same build principles as the Mathew’s?

glacial wind
#

Not right now. There’s the new geon switches but I don’t have them yet

glossy pagoda
#

The Raptor v2's? Or another new one?

glacial wind
#

Nah there’s another new silent one

#

Just came out last week

glossy pagoda
#

New switches come out faster than some people change their underwear

tawdry tree
#

ā€œNewā€ recolors more like

#

šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«

tawdry tree
#

those will most likely be better than Haimus in every way.

#

Except for price.***

spiral crater
#

could be very dumb question, but filming HE switches is fine right?

#

and would it change the sound in any way?

tropic urchin
#

and mess with actuation

spiral crater
glacial wind
#

It will worsen accuracy

#

You can do it if you want, but it’s making your overall accuracy worse because the keyboard will think your switches are unstable and make itself less accurate to try compensate

#

Or worse case scenario is it makes it inaccurate enough that the keyboard can’t compensate, then you notice it more

spiral crater
spiral crater
#

i am pretty sure if im deaf, im trying to listen to the sound recording of the diff switches, but how does the lekker tikkens compare to the phyllina? would people say they are deper?

coral finch
#

Hello, after updating my 60he keyboard, it is no longer recognized and no longer works. Despite changing the USB port, PC, cable, and uninstalling the keyboard in the device manager, it still does not work.
I made a return ticket but unfortunately on the return site it says no package found with the package number and email address

steady halo
#

60he v2, venom rgb, rakka

coral finch
#

wtf i can t man

steady halo
#

don't spamSwitchyStare

coral finch
#

i I have already tried

coral finch
#

bro myu keyboard is broken

steady halo
#

overture v2 would be nice

#

since every case supports tadpole

#

and wooting compatible

trail bane
glacial wind
#

Everyone I’ve heard who tried them so far feels they’re weird if you don’t specifically set the bump to where your tactile press hits

#

otherwise the actuation is different to your tactile bump and it feels weird

languid kestrel
#

I'd be a little interested perhaps but it's a euro per switch

calm pulsar
#

kinda defeats the purpose of HE

glacial wind
#

yeah it's a bit of an odd one

steady halo
#

i just had time to test the gamepad mode fully

#

wooting is still better

#

venom's gamepad is kinda wonky

#

maybe the top 3 gamepad mode :

  1. wooting
  2. keychron / lemokey
  3. venom
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and it seems that venom switch reading is still not the best

#

there are some keys that still won't actuate fully

#

example duhuk core & lumia herz (3.3mm) the max on certain keys are 3.2mm or 3.1mm and not stable / jumps a lot

#

even the owti is the same (but doesn't occurs all the time as duhuks and fluxies) on both of my venom 60 and venom tkl (tested with both latest beta and stable)

#

now i can't wait to see wooting's switch selector

#

SwitchyPray please be the best

languid kestrel
steady halo
#

like raeds

#

i love the raeds for my typing board

#

it kinda brings me back to the old EC days

stoic ocean
#

@steady halo i saw the ouverture tbh yellow black etc are meh but the rest šŸ”„

glacial wind
glacial wind
#

it's so reliant on a keyboards calibration and how it responds to switches that grading random switches based on how x or y keyboard calibrates them doesn't make any sense

#

you end up with a list more like 'these are switches that match the keyboards base calibration mode the best' instead of 'these are the actual most stable/accurate switches'

steady halo
glacial wind
#

simon did give a date recently that wasn't far off, but i can only pray it doesn't get delayed or need more time

steady halo
#

in the switchy God i hopeSwitchyPray

calm pulsar
glacial wind
#

what i need is for split to do well so we make an 80he split please

#

i've started using split for some games and i can't go back

#

i need my extra jett dash key

calm pulsar
#

split might be nice to play retail wow in a 60%

steady halo
#

i hope wooting puts the plastic version of 60he v2 on pre order

#

even though it will be delivered early 2026

glacial wind
#

i need f keys and split in one

chilly mural
glacial wind
#

until then i'm just going to get a custom cf plate made when possible and have a separate v2 for sound tests and my own unit with a cf plate i think

steady halo
glacial wind
#

poor calder

#

i'm sure he'd love a ghost version too, but black always wins the polls and sales

tropic urchin
glacial wind
#

it's always black, white, variants of black for top options people want lol

glacial wind
tropic urchin
#

im talking the left side in split space bar not middle

glacial wind
#

it only happened a little bit when normal typing at start but you adjust pretty quickly. But it never happens in wasd position since you don't reach other to hit space there during gaming anyway

glacial wind
#

if anything the thing you have to keep remembering at first is that you have another key you can use there, because by default you don't press that far when wasd-ing

calm pulsar
glacial wind
#

it's pretty clutch in valorant/ow and certain wasd games for specific characters that need you to never move fingers off wasd

#

i used to bind those keys to mouse, but it's a bit janky because it messes with your aim

humble surge
#

So how does the spacebar split work actually, is it logically the same or a different key? can it be mapped independently?

glacial wind
#

all 3 keys are 3 separate keys that can be mapped

humble surge
#

ohh it's 3 and not 2 even, i see

glacial wind
#

yeah it just adds another 2 keys to spacebar basically

marsh saffron
#

the middle key in split space looks like its exactly where my thumb rests when i wasd šŸ˜”

humble surge
#

thats very promising actually, i hope 80HE eventually gets that, cause i'm buying

glacial wind
#

i think the advantage really comes in games where you really don't move to stop movement mid ability

marsh saffron
#

20x12

#

thumb is pretty well dead center on my space bar

steady halo
humble surge
#

And then we have the dials coming too, can't wait for that either

glacial wind
#

cause i get that problem when i tried split with the reverse way of 2.25u first

#

but never happens on this version of split

marsh saffron
#

my thumb sits basically right there

#

unlikely to be a problem for like 99% of people i just like having my thumb extended more

#

more relaxed that way

glacial wind
#

you might be a reverse guy

#

put middle button to space lol, most cursed typing layout ever

#

imagine having to hit that exact spot for space every time you type

humble surge
#

sno what do you think, if it eventually makes it to the 80HE, would we (80HE owners) have to essentially purchase a whole new product at full?

glacial wind
#

if 60he split is popular then we'd of course look at doing it on next iteration of 80he at some point

#

just depends on sales like most things

tawdry tree
glacial wind
#

but to answer the question, yeah it'd be a totally different product down the line

chilly mural
humble surge
#

I'm not asking about wether it will exist or not, i was asking if it will, how do you think sales would go for pre-existing 80HE owners, would we have to buy ANOTHER 80HE (v2 or whatever in this case)?

#

okay

glacial wind
#

I assume you'd be able to buy a module 80he, but yeah it'd be a whole new pcb

humble surge
#

clearly it has to be

tawdry tree
glacial wind
#

there's no way to retrofit that sort of thing so yeah you'd have to buy

chilly mural
marsh saffron
#

buys split space just to set all 3 buttons to space

calm pulsar
humble surge
#

I guess we have to get clever with reducing the cost/investment on the new one then. Allright, bridge to cross when we get there.

glacial wind
#

it's very specifically godly for games where you're wasding while pressing something else mostly

#

other times it's handy, but not crazy. However in games that use wasd movement it's crazy nice to have one more key that you don't need to lift off wasd position to press

chilly mural
quick finch
glacial wind
#

the big thing is your 3 middle fingers don't want to have to move off wasd, so it's up to your pinky/thumb to find the extra key, which is huge for some games

quick finch
#

My thumb sits right between the left and middle spacebar naturally

tawdry tree
#

On WASD, you shift your hand 1u to the left normally

#

wouldn’t that create the space needed?

#

no pun intended

glacial wind
#

no, the problem isn't the space, it's the key not existing

#

your 3 middle fingers are permanently taken when wasd-ing in games like valorant for example

#

so if you have an ability that requires being pressed while mid movement, you don't want to move fingers off it

#

that means people bind those keys to mouse or pinky pressable things normally

humble surge
glacial wind
#

the problem with mouse binds is that it messes with your grip specifically to press a side button mid aiming

#

i made do with it in the past because it was just where it had to be, but it's nicer having it on split space now

tawdry tree
glacial wind
#

oh you're talking to diogo

humble surge
#

Agreed, thats why i never made myself get used to MMO mice, instead i bound nearly everything to my board, with my mice only ever having +2 side keys to comfortably press!

glacial wind
#

nah he just has big relaxed hands probably lol

tawdry tree
#

both diogo and night

#

I imagine that but 1u to the left

glacial wind
#

yeah that's due to their thumb being not bent and more relaxed + big hands

#

so shifting doesn't fix it for them because they naturally position super wide out

tawdry tree
#

this is true or this is something you say?

glacial wind
#

i mean night literally just explained it

#

i don't know what there is to be true or not true lol

#

they just don't bend their thumb same way as most and like it relaxed

tawdry tree
#

it’s hard to imagine your thumb resting in the same position both on WASD and on homing

glacial wind
#

that's why he knows it's a 99% not going to run into it issue

#

some people just develop those random habits with stuff

#

like my middle fingers hovers when i mouse grip for some bizarre reason that i've never known, but i formed that habit somehow

tawdry tree
glacial wind
glacial wind
#

he said it was just quicker and more comfortable to not use the mouse buttons

tawdry tree
glacial wind
#

same for some jett and raze players in valorant. I know that radiant raze player that everyone copies has a video guide telling people not to bind their satchel key to mouse because it messes with aim

glacial wind
tawdry tree
#

it’s middle button is extended to the left, compared to the v2

#

so nah

#

it’s bigger too

humble surge
glacial wind
#

it would put his thumb even more into that awkward spot, he doesn't want to be hitting the middle button is the point

#

the idea is he wouldn't want the middle button to be his space, because that's cursed

tawdry tree
#

you can’t get around that when you press the middle comfortably lol

#

unless you’d want to change your habits ofc

glacial wind
#

yeah i think he's just screwed either way, has to change habits regardless for either layout

#

or just not join team split

tawdry tree
#

there are many boards that have a centered (split) space

#

I don’t think it’s that uncommon

tawdry tree
glacial wind
#

i've learnt that we have very different definitions of common/uncommon

tawdry tree
#

common = common in the split space sphere

#

nothing else to go off of than that

glacial wind
#

yes we know that's your definition from the many many debates that have happened around this

#

that's why everyone here is not touching that topic with a 10 foot pole

tawdry tree
#

if you have something better to go off of, lmk

glacial wind
#

i will think of it and definitely never let you know to avoid that conversation entirely

tawdry tree
humble surge
tropic urchin
#

Me waiting for my new keycaps

#

Ong

tawdry tree
glacial wind
tawdry tree
glacial wind
#

problem is they're too thin for rgb, but fine if no rgb

#

i still need osume to make a 1.25u blank key so it accomodates split

tropic urchin
# tawdry tree which?

Pbtfans salt lake for immediate and GMK Selene after but just for salt lake rn for fun PBT set

tawdry tree
#

I wanted selene yesterday

#

😭😭

tropic urchin
#

Selene dream is still alive

tawdry tree
tropic urchin
#

Facts

tawdry tree
tropic urchin
#

Which is what got me to try it

glacial wind
#

people complain about pbtfans font sometimes, but they're all great long as you avoid the mod key text options

tawdry tree
#

first seeing it now lol

tropic urchin
tropic urchin
glacial wind
#

i bet that looks nice on the new silver 60he

tropic urchin
#

It finished production end of August so you got time

tawdry tree
#

I don’t think I have a board it’d fit well with

tropic urchin
#

I was planning on fading in the white and full colored alphas

#

Kinda like my current lazurite set

tawdry tree
#

I really like the set, fuck man

tropic urchin
humble surge
#

I'm still not decided on my GT80 color (i had to delay it a month further due to sudden expenses), but i have some more time to think, aswell as trying to figure out the keycaps aswell.
There are some nice purple caps that are heavily swinging me one way, but not sure yet.

humble surge
#

Someone in this or the 80he channel showed them to me, maybe it was Selene actually?

#

It had like a codename as such

tulip rapids
humble surge
#

I think so?

#

Searching for past messages i always found difficult on Discord

tropic urchin
#

Purple GT80 is going to be more dark, but I think either that or silver would be best but it won’t go 100% with silver

humble surge
#

I was really thinking of Silver actually

humble surge
#

but then the purple caps with that? will that look good?

#

idk

tropic urchin
#

There’s renders on the geekhack site as well

humble surge
#

Yeah this, gorgeous

tropic urchin
#

Won’t match, but it’ll have a nice contrast I think

humble surge
#

idk what GMK cosmos is sorry

tawdry tree
#

cosmos are just blanks

#

don’t worry about that

tropic urchin
#

Selene is similar style as Cosmos but it’s purple with more colors and you can read the legends

#

Lemme find cam’s

humble surge
#

Ohh the blank caps, i don't really understand those tbh, i could never type fully from muscle memory

tropic urchin
#

It’s the style of it vs blanks and not blanks

humble surge
#

Well that is

tropic urchin
#

Imagine that but purple instead and white legends

humble surge
#

not sure how to put it respectfully

tropic urchin
#

Is how it would look

tawdry tree
#

selene is more cosmosy than cosmos imo

humble surge
#

Yeah i mean Selene is very convincing

tropic urchin
#

Darker purple might go more with it, but the purple GT80 won’t go fully with other sets so you’d need to pick and choose your style if you want other sets too

#

Silver —> goes with most sets, dark purple would be purple or black only board if that makes sense

humble surge
#

Thats my thinking too, then again, eventually wanted the white zink case aswell

tawdry tree
#

I think selene would go hard with the green one (even if it’s a darker green than it should be)

humble surge
#

Green i also did glance, not off the table

tawdry tree
#

you need to be careful that you don’t buy something super specific to a certain set

tropic urchin
#

Did you see the green keycap aligner?

tawdry tree
#

when you do, not much else will match

tawdry tree
humble surge
#

To be honest i have no clean vision what i want, so it has to be experiments either way

tropic urchin
tawdry tree
#

it’s not really ā€œgreenā€

#

ah ye

humble surge
#

Current case is white, but that doesn't mean i need to lock into that aesthetic

tropic urchin
humble surge
#

plus i can always buy a new case or keycap set in the future

#

Selene is one very clear point to start with however, i like it that much

tawdry tree
tropic urchin
#

I dont think green GT80 would match it well, but the color contrast would be good i think since selene is kind of a melting pot of color (wanted to say something else but not on my christian sunday)

tropic urchin
tawdry tree
#

on anodized purple as well

tropic urchin
#

hype train initiated

humble surge
#

The other cap set that seemed interesting is that lined pattern with shine through

tropic urchin
#

cant stop wont stop

humble surge
#

Then lastly i really like the look of some side printed letters on keycaps

#

But don't really have a set to name specifically

tawdry tree
tropic urchin
#

so worth it tho

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
tropic urchin
#

I still remember the day I discovered that set I collectively lost my mind

#

I was stunned

humble surge
#

I hope so, because if there are, i wanna try.

#

Ohh almost forgot, and then ceramic as a material was also very interesting to me, not to mention sound wise.
That's also in my head constantly. Just not sure how i would solve the issue of being on ISO.

tropic urchin
#

I think maybe once you combine the novelties with the base set, the silver dream will materialize a bit more

tawdry tree
tropic urchin
#

all purple might not fully fit, but the more color you put on the board, the more silver will edge out i think

humble surge
#

I didn't find any no, and not sure what i would change those missing keys for, metal keycaps maybe? do those exist?

stoic ocean
humble surge
#

Anyway time for work, later

tropic urchin
#

VERY expensive tho

#

$350 for base kit type shit

polar girder
#

G2 push it to a fifth map

tropic urchin
steady halo
#

while overture is gh60 compatible

#

u only need an tadpole playe

stoic ocean
#

Both is good idk which one i can buy

steady halo
polar girder
steady halo
#

because i use both boards, and most likely make the 60he v2 as my main..
i'm gonna buy overture

#

and also i love tadpole mount

stoic ocean
steady halo
#

all are preference

stoic ocean
#

What is diffƩrence with O-Ring and tadpole

kind helm
#

much better now

steady halo
#

tadpole mount is similar to OG frog mini

stoic ocean
#

and which color you think taking?

steady halo
#

@calm pulsar finally i will have a tadpole case

steady halo
stoic ocean
#

The price is same with the vella

steady halo
calm pulsar
steady halo
#

overture 65 uses Geon's tadpoles right?

stoic ocean
#

I think to get both

#

One venom and one ouverture silver with wooting pcb

#

Bcs wooting have rgb and this can look very good

fluid ravine
#

Arrr jeee beee

#

Ew

trail bane
#

FINALLY

steady halo
#

both in 7u and 6.25u

trail bane
# trail bane FINALLY

I got approval from my mom. Tomorrow I’m buying GMK Tiramisu, or maybe even today, idkPepemoney Pepemoney

steady halo
#

but still it has no rgb

trail bane
#

Hype

stoic ocean
#

So the ouverture we can buy it without pcb

steady halo
#

with pcb $150

#

ish

#

without $120ish

#

depends on the case variant

stoic ocean
#

I think to get the silver one and wait for the rgb venom pcb

steady halo
#

with the cf sides are $120
rest are $100ish iirc

stoic ocean
#

or the titanium is good too

steady halo
#

ngl,
more tech on the pcb..
the more i'm afraid to break it (because there is no warranty)

#

i still trust my OG venom

#

even though i have 2 dead pcb

stoic ocean
#

The more I look at titanium the more I fall under its spell

#

I hope they launch it after October so I can save between the two keyboards.

steady halo