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we have videos on our youtube of friction fit for example, but you're not going to find one specific config repeated across videos (which is something i'm trying to fix when i get around to the case videos for our youtube)
the tl;dr is any mount that isolates the pcb will give you what most say is a better sound
so friction fit, gasket etc will all 'improve' the sound for most
any of them is honestly fine
to avoid getting overwhelmed, just assume any of them beyond tray mount is a fine improvement sound wise
it isnāt
nope, it's gasket or top mount
friction on tray mount still has hot spots though, so it isnāt perfect imo
i might get that with the cf plate to try something new
i canāt use my pc plate with it right?
thatād be the same as getting a friction pad with your tofu
itās tray with friction too
it's a fine case, again you'd be buying for aesthetics
and with that i can use the pc plate?
ye
thank you guys for your help
yeah any of the friction fit options you can just use your current plate or 3rd party plate if you want
oh one last thing. i just looked at faq and i saw that thereās a raptor v2 switch out now. i use owlabs now but are those a meaningful upgrade?
nah
eh i wouldn't worry about them unless you specifically are someone chasing stability
theyāre more stable but have issues
owlab imo sound and feel better
raptor v2 are just on there because they're good all-rounder and very stable
but sound wise owlab are better personally
ah okay
what sort of issues
spring crunch
at bottom out you can hear the spring crunch on some
I wouldnāt recommend them
Raptors are deeper sounding, but have issues with the spring rubbing the bottom housing so it has a spring crunch feel/sound sometimes. Doesnāt happen always, but itās annoying on movement keys
it seems to be a very specific type of usage too for it to happen
Can I use tofu60 housing for wooting 60he+?
raptor v3s will save us
oh yeah iāll definitely pass then
ye
i wonder if it's repetitive quick press or something
no actually
Iāve only personally noticed it on forward and backwards keys but yeah itās annoying
because i still haven't been able to get any of mine doing that spring crunch thing
But then again Iām using PP flux build so that says a lot about that
just ātofu 60ā didnāt line up with the USB-C iirc
the tofu redux works fine though
I can never replicate it meaningfully, it kinda just happens
i'm so curious as to what the exact movement cause of it is
If you play OSU it seems it happens very fast
the spring is loose
because then i could put it on the database notes, but i can't get it to replicate or happen myself
yeah osu i assume it's the repetitive fast thumping somehow doing it
it can move all over the place
ty!!
Also @tawdry tree do you know of a fix to help solidify the left shift sink of my PP plate by any chance
but they are also in my stiffest board with the 80he cf setup so maybe that makes it harder to happen
if you do end up going with the gt-60, you probably want a PCB-mount plate.
the left shift what now

What's the next QC issue?
who can link tofu redux?
If you can fix it, youāre the goat regardless of Raeds opinion
hmm, it it just a sound or feel too?
Sound is fine
Itās just feel whenever I use left shift it just sinks down and is too flexy
I put the silicone back in and it helped stabilize the center keys a lot but now itās just left shift is the flex weak point
happens with other switches too?
what do you mean?
where are you from?
I could try to put other switches in that area, not sure it would work bc I think itās a silicone + PP plate softness issue
Soft on soft type shii
the one that says support magnetic switches and pcb mount stabs?
South korea
you guys are too spoiled for choices now. We need to go back to the days of everyone trying to buy og tofu cases on resale market for $100 each
itās not that big of a deal but a plate that supports PCB-mount stabs specifically offers a wider range of support for PCB-mounted stabs š
oh word thank you
I wonder if thereās something I could fill the lower left side of the case that could support the left shift side
sinking is odd though, Iād either think the switch is lifted up slightly already by the plate
oh wait, you mean just the flex of the PCB?
and plate*
oh yeah while iām here is there any real difference between the screw in stabs in the + and the clip in ones i have?
i think i upgraded the stabs on these anyways but wanted to ask
KBDFans themselves probably, I donāt know a retailer that stocks the redux cases but maybe sno knows
screw ins are technically less inclined to have sounds, but both can be tuned to reasonable level
Yeah. PP and silicone pad together was very flexy, but since I put the cutout silicone back it stabilized it a bit. But now just the left shift side is being too flexy for me
Rivions mentioned maybe DIY key snaps could help maybe but might not be compatible
or just any silicone piece below that area would help stiffen it a lot
why is there so much flex there though
is the plate not supported?
Seems to be a PP thing
Itās the softest plate mixed with silicone soft gasket mount probably is contributing to it vs having no plate foam or similar on venom would be a very different feel
Hence why cam probably wouldnāt have that issue
Can anyone tell me the information of this keycap?
Or please recommend other keycaps!
PC is pretty soft too but I never noticed that
It did have some flex to it, but not to this degree
I donāt think itās tolerance related since it was a custom plate from Tom and his usually are good from personal reviews
Bad luck combo
which switches?

Damn why do you wooting staff care about your product so much
yeah, apart from supporting the PCB from below with silicone or something, I donāt think thereās another option.
Customer service and support is unmatched
Iāll look into this, appreciate it
Thatās what I figured would need to happen
is there less flex in another corner, like esc for example?
Iāll take a look in a few hrs
Iām in my j*b corner atm
If you find any silicone pad/pieces lmk, Iām on the hunt for them as we speak
donāt you have an eraser or something? just to try
I could find one
I figured youād want something with more height and surface area
you could get a whole ass sheet as well but donāt think itād be worth
rather just go back to PC then or something, surely?
@sacred elm ahem FUCK no
Pp is too poppy and PC is dead inside
Hard hard no to PC plate
DIY sheet was what I was thinking potentially
It's not dead with Fluxies
@sacred elm should i go back to fr4 or stay on pc when i get my switches 
With those switches probably FR4
Test both š¤·āāļø
Itās always dead
If the only switch that sounds normal on it is the most loud switch available there is a problem
With Fluxies it's fine imo, other switches are dead yeah
For most switches always FR4
IMO
Such a nice balance
ill double check if i have the fr4 plate, it might be at a friends house
switches dont arrive till next week
Iāve already tried itās eh for my plate and on flux
Iāll prob stick to PP plate since I like the poppyness
Just need to figure out how to get left shift to stop itās flex sink
Tried fr4?
I liked FR4 for a while on flux, but lil too loud for me now. The right amount is on PP for me now. I originally didnāt like PP when the silicone cut out was out bc then it made flux feel weird accuracy wise, but having it back itās rock solid
If my price to pay is weird left shift Iāll probably live with it, but just need to find the right silicone pad for that area of the GT80 case
Surely I could tape up the weird foam sent by Toronto keyboard man right
Iāve tried about everything not nylon or brass and steel I believe
But all of those prob arenāt going to be good for what I want so we chillin
POM harsh, PC sucks, PP is nice, FR4 was nice before, alu is ok, CF is ok
Yeah fair
Yeah PP is goated for sound
Feel is just trash IMO
but happy if it works for you
Hope you can fix your left shift lol
i paid like <10 dolla for the pp plate i brought
but thats pre trump
aka 5 months ago
Anything under $40 is usually cool, $10-20 depending on where itās coming from
<10 is straight Gateron economy shipping speed so idc really
Interesting
It is a lil flexy but with full silicone on 80HE the feel is very uniform and solid
Havenāt tried benom
Me too
I paid like maybe $10 ish for my Pbtfans ronin set and got a $80-90 tariff onto it
From Canada
Now that Iām looking back itās bc they used DHL
Actually no FedEx bc DHL lets you pay online and FedEx are weirdos
how the fuck do i use that website???
how would i even order a iso 80he plate there im confused
All youād select is the material and color that he has in stock and youād follow the rest here
Iād ask in his discord if he can do ISO (which youāll find on his site)
He can do iso he cut it for me
I did send the file tho
But he should have it now probably
^
ISO users rejoice
ARE WE WINNING YET? WE CANT STOP WINNING
can u send me the file just in case?
why do i select full control
ah nice
Press more information and see what each option does
If you donāt want it, donāt select it
I gave him full control bc I trust his judgment for plates given thockfatherās high praise for 3rd party plates
All I did was show you what I selected for my order and it came out great
I can send it when iām home
The file on github is the full keyboard i think
yeah lets just hope he still has the file else hell dm me i guess
Iām exaggerating. I just realized I want zero flex
The flex got better with more silicone, but Iām not a big flex guy either. I just like the pop on fluxies
Understandable
Iām home soon so i can send it to you then if you want just in case
It was really bad when I didnāt have the full silicone in and the flex was a lot more
I was tweaking out
would be nice
cant wait for my cf plate
i like stiffness
are there any stiffer gaskets for my 80 he?
out of pc or so
i think this is it
why do you need that
i thought of asking him to make me a gasket out of a stiffer material
i would not recommend it
why
the silicone one is already fairly stiff
plus its 3 dimensional so the cost would skyrocket
the stock ones are injection molded i think
well doesn't hurt to ask
@tawdry tree after further inspection maybe the silicone pad is needed for all 4 corners since that seems to be where it goes lil wild
silicone sheets should be pretty easy to find
just the thickness that is tricky
you could just get a thin sheet (1mm) and stack multiple
that way you can tune how stiff itāll be as well
Gn
Anyone got a layout for the wooting 80 he ISO. Got some keycaps and for the life of me donāt know where some of them go. Any help would be appreciated
ISO Nordic or which?
goat shit
you may have questionable tastes with raeds, but goat shit @tawdry tree
https://www.amazon.com/MMLFX-Silicone-Thickness-Heat-resistant-Translucent/dp/B09W69SYZC would this work?
Specification:
Material: silicone rubber
Color: translucent
Tensile strength: 12Mpa
Density: 1.20+/-0.05g/cm3
Breakdown voltage: 20-25KV / mm
Temperature: -40°C-200°C
Size: about 500X500mm (20"X20")
Thickness: 1mm
High quality silicone rubber with good performance of anti-aging, ozone resistance...
i was thinking getting 2x and then cutting it up and layering it on each corner
500x500mm is pretty large so i think it SHOULD be enough
2 artisan pads of material
Iām not sure if 2mm thick will end up being enough
hmm
rly no clue about the space below the PCB in the gt-80
5mm?
actually more even
yeah thats what i was thinkin
maybe 3 or 4
surely
itāll be fineeeee
everything else is god awful on ebay for silicone sheets and rest is like fuckin mats
ill get 4
if thats not enough im jumping off my house
will be the last post you see from me
What is that for

rounding out the edges so PP plate isnt hyper flexy
To stop this from happening
Interesting
you can cut 4 pieces out of a single 500x500mm sheet
keyword: "if"
3 horizontal one veritcal
Damn why he is so flexible
PP is super soft, silicone gasket mount is also soft so my thought is super soft on soft is causing some flex issues
center is good now, but the 4 corners of the keyboard has some flex issues
so im using silicone sheets to help prop it up
Why you dont put it in bottom case
thats the plan anyway
cutting up the silicone sheets into 4 and then placing them to prevent flex
I have a keyboard with flex too and i put mlv to improve the sound and this sht is not soft
The flex is almost gone
3 or 4 sheets you thinkin
mass loaded vinyl?
to get? 2 at most bro
okay so wasnt going schizo earlier
for the case, you need pieces the size of 330 wide and 120 tall
thatās right, I just couldnāt do math lmao
im going with 3 in case anything gets fucked up in the process
theyāre not as expensive as fluxies surely?
just $40
š
kinda cringe but the more you introduce new variables the more often some shit bound to go wrong
its the difference of like $30 and $40
not crazy difference
still expensive
it is what it is
$13 per sheet vs ebays $45-50
pick your poison xD
appreciate your help tho @tawdry tree 
if you go broke, you cans ell some fluxies to cover the cost
yw bro
ill just get some deep clack later
now that the middle isnt sagging since the alpha silicone is back in, PP Flux is now going to be perma build until something new comes out that isnt deeply flawed
tired of this shit dawg
GIVE ME 45G LONG SPRING SWITCHES THAT ARENT POM AND DONT SUCK/HAVE SPRING CRUNCH
FUCK
Q3 2028 š
I havenāt tried fluxies on PP yet, I will soon
HMX sold
geon too for not pressing HMX
might be lit on benom, I wasnt a big fan of them on the geon alu or FR4
i know i really liked how cam's sounded
thinking of the getting the jade pros HE, any thoughts on better alternatives before I buy?
Owlab ti he
If you want the deeper profile Iād also try UR ice ultra/phylina thunderbolts (box stem version)
any particular reason its better? Looking to use them for everyday use, but also for esports titles while streaming. sound is important, but def prefer performance
I had them, theyāre kind wobbly and there are better options out rn
That are cheaper than Jade pros
You can get them but theyāre not a great value proposition
I see, ill do some research on the owl lab ones then, TY!
If you check the pins, Sno has a quick stability and sound test for the current switches @wintry pollen
The best Gateron switch rn is looking like the Spark but is an expensive choice
For the sparks nothing that comes to mind but I believe both @glacial wind and @stray tiger have them and can give you their thoughts on em
Wooting is also launching the new Tikken switches by end of year that will have comparable stem wobble to the owlab ti he and will have a deeper/poppy sound profile as well so worth keeping an eye on
and 4mm travel
Avoid the sparks for now. They are difficult to get sounding great (IMHO) and there are a few reports of inconsistent sensor readings due to the magnets being too weak for the new "floating" magnet design in the sparks. This might be something that is addressed via firmware at some point, but not today.
Even the best that Gateron has to offer has issues ooof
I feel like they're cursed lmao
I don't know the details but I think because of the new floating design the magnets sit higher up than normal switches but they didn't compensate for this with stronger magnets.
it's alright, I'm sure the wizard at wooting can fix it
It seems the only way Iām going to get what I want in current switch meta looks to be sticking it out with fluxies PP plate
checks up, yay, enjoy your mousepad
Which one
I just bought my 3rd one earlier

Otsu was my first too 
my first was a zero xxl soft which i still use
then bought a type99 in matcha green xl xsoft which i gave to my brother
and just ordered a xl soft raiden few hours ago and some of the mizogomu mouse skates to try
type99 was too soft and wanted something v fast, was either a raiden or glass
going with zero
for the safe choice but i been eyeing key 83 and hein
Zero is good, Hein is really abrasive and uncomfortable but the Key83ās hexagonal weave is good, if the raiden is too fast for me Iāll get the Key83
im getting zero soft and been debating the key83 soft or mid
i know mid is more of a glass pad feel
then im getting obsidian air dots for my beast x pro
yeah thats the one thing im worry about the hein is how abrasive it is
i dont want to be uncomfortable when i game
I recommend that
Sounds about right
Key83 does feel like a zero fan wanted their own Raiden but tailored it down a bit speed wise
For a texture hater (me) itās pretty smooth without a lot of the abrasiveness found in other textured artisan pads
@sacred elm I need to try Jade dots on it
are the MATHEW HE Silent good ?
like 8k pulling fast and not much noice
need it for GD so yeah i care about being fast
switches don't affect performance like that and yeah they work fine
you know where i can find a good sound test? like single hard clicking
if you want silent switches they're probably the best option at the moment
They're not the most accurate switches out there. Check the note below silent switches
where can i get them for cheap, only want the lowests possible units
They're very cheap on AliExpress
this order good?
Yep
theyll all fit good right?
Yeah
also off topic but uwu has no support for 8k righjt?
No, it's 1k but the difference between 1k and 8k is not noticeable.
I guess but im a top gd player and it matters heklla
I doubt. Difference is less than 1ms.
hopefully they come out with a 8k version someday would love the build quality of a uwu with 8k
are you buying for a whole keyboard?
not really im going to ues em from my setup
your pfp gives me ptsd from escape the back rooms
oh nah
some gd jumps u have 3ms to react
2.77
i think i'll pick up the key83 soft pad instead then
just gotta wait for my vendor to get more since they only have xsoft š¤¢
You cant order it from japan?
chill
risk high custom fees and the pad cost $54 cad + $40 cad shipping fees
Yeah like thockfather said they have magnet being too weak issues for now, itās why I removed it from the recommend list. Simon said it should be fixed later when theyāre part of the switch selector but for now theyāre not recommended
Can you buy a premade tape mod?
not hard to do it yourself
yes
some keyboard shops/brands do sell precut tape mod things, although like goku said it's really easy to just do it yourself
although honestly a lot of switches i don't really think tapemod adds much or makes them better
Just something like blue painters tape?
ye
The most powerful modding kit for Wooting 80 HE Click here for a build guide Exclusively designed for the Wooting. Now revamped for the 80% layout. Modding Kit only, Keyboard not included. Not compatible with other keyboards. Why mod your Wooting? Sound profile: fine tune your auditory experience; whether you like clac
oh im back
The case list would be absurdly long since 60% has a million compatible cases
wow you're still alive
better to ask here if you find a case you like and see if itās compatible
does cam remember me š
How do you know this isnāt a dream
and does tenz still visit
what are the biggest hits so far though
holy60?
not sure what you mean by hits
Holy60 wasnāt all that popular honestly, cause of the whole sound thing
yea because of the physics of the case just letting sound loose huh
That and the looks are hit or miss
Tofu redux is most popular, salvation, gt60, frog mini are more premium options, some other options would be frog mini leggera, holy60 and a lot more
Yeh I like Leggera most for affordable aesthetic case
Not the heaviest but pretty nice
I don't know which it is, but the switches/caps sound good. Also it seems 60%.
Any stabilizer recomendation? Tx ap 1.6 screw in, durock v3 or meletrix v3.1 silica ver?
Run stock or knight stabs from Swagkeys/typeplus x yikb
knight stabs, typeplus, designer studio
which board?
gat is long past designing switches solely for woot bro š
(ultra rare gat defense holy)
I remember when I first joined it was between lekkers, RAW and Jaydes
now gateron is an afterthought
and that wasnt that long ago ;_;
roughly this time last year
owlab my beloved
theres alot of choice now, but it seems like every new release has some sort of potentially weird shit that sours the switch
Wym I love orchids
š
switch manus donāt learn from each otherās mistakes sadly
I think part of it is the sparks were made in collab with another brand originally, so their magnetic range wasnāt considered for other boards as much
Iām sure if they could go back theyād pick a better range that was more compatible with everyone else
waterproof PCB moment
What are the best lp stabilizers for Wooting 60 he with Gateron jade pro
Yeah TMR switches and keyboards might be the thing that equalizes all the issues that people have with he switches
Nothing new in he industry
Huge might though depending on the tech that comes out
Q4 will save us
?
Typeplus x yikb/Knights v3
Thanks
Long pole right?
M yeah
Thanks
You mean v4 now for knights lol
The v3 was very quick
At least the v naming scheme is gone now from v4 onwards
They just list them as knight stabs
anyone recommend a keyboard case for the 2he?
Thereās no such thing as TMR switches, itās magnetic switches!! 
elaborate
I meant to say TMR sensors
well like
something to store my 2he in and carry around
i dont feel like shoving it in my backpack
ah so travel case
TX has full size carrying cases iirc
you probably wont find one for both the wrist rest and keyboard, but anything full sized prob would be fine
80he
then youāre good, the 80HE is compatible with all the recommended options whereas the 60HE is not.
Was just checking. :)
Idk, maybe. Actually, whatās the difference between v3 and v4?
I think how easy it is to tune iirc
Or atleast thatās one of them
is the gt-80 a good case?
Very
If you like to swap plates or switches itās by far the best experience
What about 80s tho
what about the 10s
Probably for the first time in my life, I got ragebaited that much by a GD player
@calm pulsar am i cooked?
tldr pls
in english, not by AI, less than 50 words
is someone there saying that optical switches are better than HE?
Cant understand ukrainian
Russian btw
it's russian
It is cyrylic
His video is called the best devices for GD. What I saw there: mechanical keyboards, optical ones, mice, and random magnetic boards with a scan rate of 256 billion and a bunch of zeros
Basicly the same thing
Bet
so just regular person that wanna farm affiliate?
Just a regular RC Gd player
imagine not having cyrillic in your alphabet, not even a real slav language

Imagine using worse alphabet
what's GD btw?
Simply, following Jakubās conclusion: Spanish = Polish
if you're following jakub's conclusions theres a bigger issue at hand
Geometry Dash
ah
I'm over here wishing I could throw my controller into a wall cause some silksong runbacks are insane
probably would be better on a keyboard but im too used to controller now
I have it in my cart 
waiting for sale
its $20 tf you mean waiting for a sale
gotta play the first one first
$20 is a week groceries...
jk, im waiting a week until I see more review, should be long enough to have at least 10000 people beating it already
i was about to say technically new IEM would fund a house
20 usd is like two pizzas
that's not wrong, it's lit 1 month rent
These days its one pizza
Anyone know him
i don't know him
Know who
³ or someshit
him obviously
ā¹ā¹ā¹
Gn actually
Pic is removed, but itās almost always some random Roblox admin discord user or some shit
Yes I know this guy thatās a Roblox admin of a 5 person server 
@kind helm are u still usin that ftip mod on the op1
what would be the best switch for typing? I used browns and l60 V2 feels too heavy for me, I don't care about sound
Try 40g Owlab Ti HE
ok
anyone here try the gt60 case š
bro wants to leave the goated tofu 60 redux
gt cases look good
but they force me to buy a plate
160 after shipping š
gasket and tray mount?!
supports tray, gasket and top
Looks similar to the bottom of the cloudnine
Daiso has betrayed me. Their labels do not stick
Thatās what I get for buying 100 labels for a dollar I guess
it's alright, a double sided tape should be the fix
Canāt wait to buy that tape from daiso as well
Have you tested MMD?
miku miku dance?
Played around with it shortly but didnāt fully test it
Seems fine to me
@glacial wind what do think about jerrzi ruyi ?
You need a label maker
Havenāt really played with them much, only got a small amount for sample
Do you have a sound test compared to polar pro+ i think they are similar but in term of performance i think they are less good
not right now but Iāll have official sound tests for everything once I have enough samples
I only have maybe 4-6 of the ruyi so I need more to do a proper sound tests
for me, mmd c1's are more stable than owlabs ti he.
i;ve noticed that wobble on owlabs is qc-based, few of my switches were extremly wobble upside-down idk why
I think outside of exceptions with pole guide and such itās becoming way too hard to make feel based guesses on stability
Thereās minor variance between even switches of the same batch, I just tend to group most stuff into roughly same category and call it good
Most of the switches from recent gen are so similar in stability it barely matters outside of the pole guided ones
You can store them at my house if you want
That might make accessibility an issue
I think it wonāt be difficult for Wooting to set up delivery back and forth via express cargo planes 
moar fridge
C1s are everything Raptors V2s were promised to be.
Should I try them 
raptors feels more premium in hand when you touch both switches
Raptors are the opposite of premium
They were for sale again today apparently
and sound wise raptors are more "repetitive"?
C1s are without spring crunch and without a frictiony feel afaik.
The only thing I noticed so far with them is the same minor stickiness at the start of the press.
Like Raw HEs have.
Raptor friction was fine, spring crunch was š¤®
yep, but not in all of them
That's temporary
i replied to aligner
That's temporary
ouf
(spring crunch not being in all of them)
Yes

thats temporary
Is it temporary
thank you for pointing it out
are mmd c1s pole guided?
i haven't pulled apart mine yet
okay played around with them a little bit, they do seem stable, although raptors still a tad more
yeah mmd are definitely more in the owlab/tikkens etc level of stable
but that's still fine, i don't think it necessarily is a win to be more stable if it comes at cost of friction stuff
their pitch is a bit higher
i need to try them out in my non cf 80he
in cf 80he mmd c1 sound really isn't going to fit most peoples taste sound wise
Donāt mind the kdrama in the background lol. Hereās a real rough example
yeah its not the best switch sound wise
but for sure best for that price
crazy cheap
yeah they were dirt cheap
i ordered 110 just to have 90 to throw into a build for one of our influencers and it was still only like $18 or whatever lol
yeah, i paid 20$ for 90 on ali
tikkens still sound best on my cf 80he out of the options i've tried
tikkens might be best all-rounder, lets hope for that
it sounds better than the friction fit v2 for me, but i like a less muted sound so i need cf to make it brighter for me lol
i assume average person isn't going to be like me and will appreciate more muted v2 friction fit sound
man phone recordings cut the high end so much
watching that mmd recording the higher pitched light clack doesn't come out as much
Time is relative
M, here tikkens solo
yeah tikkens sound real nice to me on CF
it's a problem though that i've become used to split spacebar for some games, so I need to use the v2. I may need to order a cf plate for my own personal v2
What keycap comes with the prebuilt 80he zinc alloy
ansi is the doubleshot pbt isn't it? I think iso you pick at checkout don't you?
I meant switches
Mb
if you don't care about sound then in general most switches are fine
Alright, thanks
https://x.com/axilyn/status/1964658932397547793 the teases man, I canāt.
gotta be edged
prop before 60hev2
@glacial wind hey weird question with my build tomorrow. Was wondering if you encountered anything ābetterā but on the same build principles as the Mathewās?
Not right now. Thereās the new geon switches but I donāt have them yet
The Raptor v2's? Or another new one?
New switches come out faster than some people change their underwear
Outemuās Silent Peaches should be coming soon on Ali
those will most likely be better than Haimus in every way.
Except for price.***
could be very dumb question, but filming HE switches is fine right?
and would it change the sound in any way?
will introduce inaccuracies which is why its not recommended
and mess with actuation
i meannn i already do have a ixpe sheet so from 3.8-4.0 (on a 3.5mm switch) i dont have access to that range consistently, would it worsen that inaccuracy or js keep it the same?
It will worsen accuracy
You can do it if you want, but itās making your overall accuracy worse because the keyboard will think your switches are unstable and make itself less accurate to try compensate
Or worse case scenario is it makes it inaccurate enough that the keyboard canāt compensate, then you notice it more
ohhhhh okok thank you, ill lay off on that then
i am pretty sure if im deaf, im trying to listen to the sound recording of the diff switches, but how does the lekker tikkens compare to the phyllina? would people say they are deper?
Hello, after updating my 60he keyboard, it is no longer recognized and no longer works. Despite changing the USB port, PC, cable, and uninstalling the keyboard in the device manager, it still does not work.
I made a return ticket but unfortunately on the return site it says no package found with the package number and email address
if this comes this year,
that means it's hell of a year
60he v2, venom rgb, rakka
wtf i can t man
don't spam
i I have already tried
https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1019755933959733258 try to post there also
bro myu keyboard is broken
overture v2 would be nice
since every case supports tadpole
and wooting compatible
Btw gat tactile is now available on ali
https://a.aliexpress.com/_ExSalNC
Everyone Iāve heard who tried them so far feels theyāre weird if you donāt specifically set the bump to where your tactile press hits
otherwise the actuation is different to your tactile bump and it feels weird
I'd be a little interested perhaps but it's a euro per switch
that's what we always assumed when people asked for tactile HE before
kinda defeats the purpose of HE
yeah it's a bit of an odd one
i just had time to test the gamepad mode fully
wooting is still better
venom's gamepad is kinda wonky
maybe the top 3 gamepad mode :
- wooting
- keychron / lemokey
- venom
and it seems that venom switch reading is still not the best
there are some keys that still won't actuate fully
example duhuk core & lumia herz (3.3mm) the max on certain keys are 3.2mm or 3.1mm and not stable / jumps a lot
even the owti is the same (but doesn't occurs all the time as duhuks and fluxies) on both of my venom 60 and venom tkl (tested with both latest beta and stable)
now i can't wait to see wooting's switch selector
please be the best
for gaming yeah but for those of us who mostly type and gaming is a secondary function, I'd still like to see more tactiles
indeed
like raeds
i love the raeds for my typing board
it kinda brings me back to the old EC days
@steady halo i saw the ouverture tbh yellow black etc are meh but the rest š„
yeah this stuff is kind of the issue with some of the recent 'stability grading' i've seen based solely off "how does this switch perform in x keyboard at 0.0001 setting" type stuff
indeed, i like the evil tho
it's so reliant on a keyboards calibration and how it responds to switches that grading random switches based on how x or y keyboard calibrates them doesn't make any sense
you end up with a list more like 'these are switches that match the keyboards base calibration mode the best' instead of 'these are the actual most stable/accurate switches'
yeah, now i want to see how wooting can perform with their own switch selector
simon did give a date recently that wasn't far off, but i can only pray it doesn't get delayed or need more time
i hope š
in the switchy God i hope
this single message has postponed the release until Q4 2027
what i need is for split to do well so we make an 80he split please
i've started using split for some games and i can't go back
i need my extra jett dash key
split might be nice to play retail wow in a 60%
i hope wooting puts the plastic version of 60he v2 on pre order
even though it will be delivered early 2026
i need f keys and split in one
Split the key in half
until then i'm just going to get a custom cf plate made when possible and have a separate v2 for sound tests and my own unit with a cf plate i think
i hope there is a ghost version for it
poor calder
i'm sure he'd love a ghost version too, but black always wins the polls and sales
until you try to hit space bar and you end up pressing a spell instead 
it's always black, white, variants of black for top options people want lol
you actually can't while wasding. I've never accidentally hit the middle button while wasd gaming before
im talking the left side in split space bar not middle
it only happened a little bit when normal typing at start but you adjust pretty quickly. But it never happens in wasd position since you don't reach other to hit space there during gaming anyway
oh you actually never do that. It's pretty intuitive, you have to contiously remind yourself the extra key is there, more than the other way around
if anything the thing you have to keep remembering at first is that you have another key you can use there, because by default you don't press that far when wasd-ing
i'd probably just use the middle key for a modifier that is easier to reach than ctrl or alt
it's pretty clutch in valorant/ow and certain wasd games for specific characters that need you to never move fingers off wasd
i used to bind those keys to mouse, but it's a bit janky because it messes with your aim
So how does the spacebar split work actually, is it logically the same or a different key? can it be mapped independently?
all 3 keys are 3 separate keys that can be mapped
ohh it's 3 and not 2 even, i see
yeah it just adds another 2 keys to spacebar basically
the middle key in split space looks like its exactly where my thumb rests when i wasd š
thats very promising actually, i hope 80HE eventually gets that, cause i'm buying
i think the advantage really comes in games where you really don't move to stop movement mid ability
dam you got big hands?
And then we have the dials coming too, can't wait for that either
that's interesting, they made the left side bigger on purpose to try avoid that, but i guess if you have really long thumbs it can still happen
cause i get that problem when i tried split with the reverse way of 2.25u first
but never happens on this version of split
my thumb sits basically right there
unlikely to be a problem for like 99% of people i just like having my thumb extended more
more relaxed that way
you might be a reverse guy
put middle button to space lol, most cursed typing layout ever
imagine having to hit that exact spot for space every time you type
sno what do you think, if it eventually makes it to the 80HE, would we (80HE owners) have to essentially purchase a whole new product at full?
calder has said on stream before iirc, it all just depends on split popularity
if 60he split is popular then we'd of course look at doing it on next iteration of 80he at some point
just depends on sales like most things
hell of a year indeed. hopefully š
but to answer the question, yeah it'd be a totally different product down the line
Hopefully 60he split got sold out for 2-3 batch. Cause that means 80he split will be a thing
I'm not asking about wether it will exist or not, i was asking if it will, how do you think sales would go for pre-existing 80HE owners, would we have to buy ANOTHER 80HE (v2 or whatever in this case)?
okay
I assume you'd be able to buy a module 80he, but yeah it'd be a whole new pcb
clearly it has to be
youāre just not a power user, DKS with tactile switches my goat (I havenāt tried gatās yet so weāll see
)
there's no way to retrofit that sort of thing so yeah you'd have to buy
Pcb + plastic case, cause $10 for another goated case is nice
fr š
buys split space just to set all 3 buttons to space
I'm a power user of actuation points and RT thenš
I guess we have to get clever with reducing the cost/investment on the new one then. Allright, bridge to cross when we get there.
it's very specifically godly for games where you're wasding while pressing something else mostly
other times it's handy, but not crazy. However in games that use wasd movement it's crazy nice to have one more key that you don't need to lift off wasd position to press
It's also extra nice for rhythm games especially djmax where there's a lot of 2 thumb use and extra button for fever.
I do this as well, took some getting used to
the big thing is your 3 middle fingers don't want to have to move off wasd, so it's up to your pinky/thumb to find the extra key, which is huge for some games
My thumb sits right between the left and middle spacebar naturally
On WASD, you shift your hand 1u to the left normally
wouldnāt that create the space needed?
no pun intended
no, the problem isn't the space, it's the key not existing
your 3 middle fingers are permanently taken when wasd-ing in games like valorant for example
so if you have an ability that requires being pressed while mid movement, you don't want to move fingers off it
that means people bind those keys to mouse or pinky pressable things normally
something i will definitely want ^^
the problem with mouse binds is that it messes with your grip specifically to press a side button mid aiming
i made do with it in the past because it was just where it had to be, but it's nicer having it on split space now
you talking about the same thing? š¤
oh you're talking to diogo
Agreed, thats why i never made myself get used to MMO mice, instead i bound nearly everything to my board, with my mice only ever having +2 side keys to comfortably press!
nah he just has big relaxed hands probably lol
yeah that's due to their thumb being not bent and more relaxed + big hands
so shifting doesn't fix it for them because they naturally position super wide out
this is true or this is something you say?
i mean night literally just explained it
i don't know what there is to be true or not true lol
they just don't bend their thumb same way as most and like it relaxed
itās hard to imagine your thumb resting in the same position both on WASD and on homing
that's why he knows it's a 99% not going to run into it issue
some people just develop those random habits with stuff
like my middle fingers hovers when i mouse grip for some bizarre reason that i've never known, but i formed that habit somehow
might be blind then lol
it's actually an interesting issue, because chanimal, the world champion goat WoW player stopped using mmo mice for same reason
ah, yeah I see
he said it was just quicker and more comfortable to not use the mouse buttons
youād like HM66ās split then haha
same for some jett and raze players in valorant. I know that radiant raze player that everyone copies has a video guide telling people not to bind their satchel key to mouse because it messes with aim
hm66 would make it even worse for him surely
itās middle button is extended to the left, compared to the v2
so nah
itās bigger too
I just figured it was never comfortable or intuitive, and i have hardcore raided and even did ranked PvP for over a decade now, keyboard binding turned out to be a better solution for me. For the same reason the two extra keys of a split spacebar will come in handy very much.
it would put his thumb even more into that awkward spot, he doesn't want to be hitting the middle button is the point
the idea is he wouldn't want the middle button to be his space, because that's cursed
you canāt get around that when you press the middle comfortably lol
unless youād want to change your habits ofc
yeah i think he's just screwed either way, has to change habits regardless for either layout
or just not join team split
there are many boards that have a centered (split) space
I donāt think itās that uncommon
itās too useful to not 
i've learnt that we have very different definitions of common/uncommon
yes we know that's your definition from the many many debates that have happened around this
that's why everyone here is not touching that topic with a 10 foot pole
if you have something better to go off of, lmk
i will think of it and definitely never let you know to avoid that conversation entirely
lmao, happens from time to time still
Thats the problem with everyone having a voice online and often with anonimity, suddenly everything conforms to the person saying it.
My "common", my "true", my "reality". So on so forth.
infamous ā90% of peopleā
i did find some nice korean bow keycaps over weekend
which?
problem is they're too thin for rgb, but fine if no rgb
i still need osume to make a 1.25u blank key so it accomodates split
Pbtfans salt lake for immediate and GMK Selene after but just for salt lake rn for fun PBT set
Itās still going so not dead in water š
Selene dream is still alive
edged by selene 
Facts
salt lake is pretty nice actually
Has great color combo
Which is what got me to try it
people complain about pbtfans font sometimes, but they're all great long as you avoid the mod key text options
yeah, I somehow missed it entirely
first seeing it now lol
Iām getting both of these and going to combo it
You can still get it š
i bet that looks nice on the new silver 60he
It finished production end of August so you got time
I donāt think I have a board itād fit well with
I was planning on fading in the white and full colored alphas
Kinda like my current lazurite set

I really like the set, fuck man

Build going to be PP, flux, salt lake so itāll either be plasticky or Iāll achieve lore accurate thock
I'm still not decided on my GT80 color (i had to delay it a month further due to sudden expenses), but i have some more time to think, aswell as trying to figure out the keycaps aswell.
There are some nice purple caps that are heavily swinging me one way, but not sure yet.
Whatcha plannin for purple
Someone in this or the 80he channel showed them to me, maybe it was Selene actually?
It had like a codename as such
have these even been shipped out yet?
Definitely me 
Purple GT80 is going to be more dark, but I think either that or silver would be best but it wonāt go 100% with silver
I was really thinking of Silver actually
Thereās renders on the geekhack site as well
Yeah this, gorgeous
Imagine the GMK cosmos on silver but purple instead of grey/black
Wonāt match, but itāll have a nice contrast I think
idk what GMK cosmos is sorry
Selene is similar style as Cosmos but itās purple with more colors and you can read the legends
Lemme find camās
Ohh the blank caps, i don't really understand those tbh, i could never type fully from muscle memory
Well that is
Imagine that but purple instead and white legends
not sure how to put it respectfully
Is how it would look
Yeah i mean Selene is very convincing
Darker purple might go more with it, but the purple GT80 wonāt go fully with other sets so youād need to pick and choose your style if you want other sets too
Silver ā> goes with most sets, dark purple would be purple or black only board if that makes sense
Thats my thinking too, then again, eventually wanted the white zink case aswell
I think selene would go hard with the green one (even if itās a darker green than it should be)
Green i also did glance, not off the table
Lemme see
Wait
you need to be careful that you donāt buy something super specific to a certain set
Did you see the green keycap aligner?
when you do, not much else will match
these?
To be honest i have no clean vision what i want, so it has to be experiments either way
Current case is white, but that doesn't mean i need to lock into that aesthetic
[IC] | GMK CYL Selene | Quick update!
plus i can always buy a new case or keycap set in the future
Selene is one very clear point to start with however, i like it that much
these I think would look good with red
I dont think green GT80 would match it well, but the color contrast would be good i think since selene is kind of a melting pot of color (wanted to say something else but not on my christian sunday)
that would be a statement board
on anodized purple as well
I know of about 5 ppl now that are in on Selene, warms my heart
hype train initiated
The other cap set that seemed interesting is that lined pattern with shine through
the darker purple would go better, mine is going to look mildly weird but idc
cant stop wont stop
Then lastly i really like the look of some side printed letters on keycaps
But don't really have a set to name specifically
actual threat to your own wallet and the wallet of everyone in here (me included)
so worth it tho
are there any of quality like that?
true
I still remember the day I discovered that set I collectively lost my mind
I was stunned
I hope so, because if there are, i wanna try.
Ohh almost forgot, and then ceramic as a material was also very interesting to me, not to mention sound wise.
That's also in my head constantly. Just not sure how i would solve the issue of being on ISO.
I think maybe once you combine the novelties with the base set, the silver dream will materialize a bit more
cerakey doesnāt support ISO?
all purple might not fully fit, but the more color you put on the board, the more silver will edge out i think
I didn't find any no, and not sure what i would change those missing keys for, metal keycaps maybe? do those exist?
I will go on vella they are both good kit
Anyway time for work, later
they do yeah if you check Awekeys
VERY expensive tho
$350 for base kit type shit
G2 push it to a fifth map
AI Supremacy 
i kinda like vella, but that kit is venom oriented
while overture is gh60 compatible
u only need an tadpole playe
Both is good idk which one i can buy
if u don't really want to use wooting, then get vella
lol ChatGPT looking ahhhh
because i use both boards, and most likely make the 60he v2 as my main..
i'm gonna buy overture
and also i love tadpole mount

If i want a wooting i buy another keyboard tbh more u have more is good
true, but nothing beats the wooting experience for me
all are preference
What is diffƩrence with O-Ring and tadpole
i got the v2
much better now
o-ring is kinda tight and sounds bad if the case internals are meh
tadpole mount is similar to OG frog mini
and which color you think taking?
@calm pulsar finally i will have a tadpole case
evil (black)
The price is same with the vella
$120ish
nice, does that use geon's tadpoles?
i think so
overture 65 uses Geon's tadpoles right?
I think to get both
One venom and one ouverture silver with wooting pcb
Bcs wooting have rgb and this can look very good
FINALLY
venom will be available in rgb
both in 7u and 6.25u
I got approval from my mom. Tomorrow Iām buying GMK Tiramisu, or maybe even today, idk

yay
but still it has no rgb
YAYYYYY
Hype
So the ouverture we can buy it without pcb
ye
with pcb $150
ish
without $120ish
depends on the case variant
I think to get the silver one and wait for the rgb venom pcb
with the cf sides are $120
rest are $100ish iirc
or the titanium is good too
ngl,
more tech on the pcb..
the more i'm afraid to break it (because there is no warranty)

i still trust my OG venom
even though i have 2 dead pcb
The more I look at titanium the more I fall under its spell
I hope they launch it after October so I can save between the two keyboards.
most likely october or nov
