🔧│keyboard_modding

[tropic urchin]

I wouldn't say the top pros are very tip dependent but I havent liked the wide bores on any set but the top pros

[little glen]

i see some different people online so i'll ask again

[fluid ravine]

Like for phone sure
I might actually want to pick up a dongle when I'm going out

[tidal frigate]

Tho it is dongle dac amp combo

[fluid ravine]

So yeah, I want a brick please

[tidal frigate]

But brick is pointless

[fluid ravine]

But brick :(

[thorn zealot]

???

[little glen]

all i know is premium boards 😭

[tidal frigate]

Ask r/mk

[little glen]

i dont have a reddit account

and dont plan on making one

[uneven cradle]

ISO just wrecks 99% of good options

[little glen]

yeah

i was gonna tell him to get tiger lite gaming

[tidal frigate]

Keychron

[chilly mural]

umu umu. I'll try different tips next month. For now I've been liking the sancai tips.

[tropic urchin]

those look interesting

[little glen]

i will not go to the dark side

[tropic urchin]

Once you have a nice game that has great audio, it really brings out the technicalities of your set

[chilly mural]

nah, I just use IEM to listen to song/rhythm game. So I'm not even sure if I want the technicals.

[tropic urchin]

might be more worth while to stick to Astrals if you dont have alot you wanna throw at them imo

or unless you spend alot of time listening to music maybe

[fluid ravine]

Gib me yours

[chilly mural]

about 3-6 hours a day on music alone + rhythm game

[calm pulsar]

soulslike boss music

[chilly mural]

so a fuck ton of listening music

[tropic urchin]

my astrals are my backup set rn

[chilly mural]

get job, get astral, be happy

[fluid ravine]

HE SAID J WORD

BAN HIM

[calm pulsar]

you lost me at j*b

[chilly mural]

😭

[calm pulsar]

im actually working rn

[tropic urchin]

boots up nightreign nice night shift hehe

[calm pulsar]

https://youtu.be/o0yz457hVec?list=RDo0yz457hVec

this is peak

Gwyn music vibes

[tawdry tree]

There’s a channel on YT that does joystick teardowns and comparisons and IIRC, TMR sticks score higher in every metric every time. Though, those are entirely different sensors than ones you’d use on a keyboard..

[tropic urchin]

I have others i wanna show you but you need to play the DLC

[calm pulsar]

once I finish all character questlines in nightreign I will either play bloodborne on PS5 or do the DLC

[tawdry tree]

I have no clue who at woot researches ts but calder isn’t omniscient

[calm pulsar]

yeah, there's benefit of less wear/stick drift when using HE/TMR sticks, similar to MX vs HE on keyboards, but on keyboards this aspect doesn't matter as much

[tawdry tree]

that I believe, just not that it makes a significant difference when compared to the MCU and multi plexers on the board.

there are already numerous wireless HE and TMR boards

haven’t yet seen them being compared 1 to 1 though

[calm pulsar]

the keychron's wireless 100% HE

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-dog-sleeping-sleeping-dog-dog-sleeping-tiny-eepy-dog-gif-2292331323183720739

[calm pulsar]

emote sized gif

[tawdry tree]

fuck nitro

🥰

[uneven cradle]

Everyone asks when wireless but nobody asks why wireless

[chilly mural]

nitro makes your name have diff font

[calm pulsar]

at least in this channel whenever someone asks for wireless most people ask why wireless

[uneven cradle]

That's true but that's because this channel is full of based individuals

[calm pulsar]

[thorn zealot]

must be nice to play those type of games

[calm pulsar]

at least there is peak around the corner that your pc will be able to play

[chilly mural]

lmao

I mean, you have peak, deltarune, silksong, and... idk the third

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-hollow-knight-silksong-silk-song-september-4-gif-5925768659925160479

[thorn zealot]

atleast i can play silksong

if my pc cant handle it then ima drive up to a bridge

[calm pulsar]

lol its gonna be fine, it comes out on switch 1 as well I think

[chilly mural]

it's not a UE5 game, so you'll be fine

[thorn zealot]

so does that mean this baby can make it

[calm pulsar]

ryzen 1000 is old but a 700 should be perfectly fine

[tulip rapids]

time to upgrade your build

treat yourself king

[calm pulsar]

imagine phish discovering dark souls, sekiro and elden ring for the first time

[thorn zealot]

Imagine I can play an fps at over 144 fps

[fluid ravine]

Cookie and cweam

That one flux left alone

[tropic urchin]

thats not very astral of you

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

im swapping out the top housings and stems with stock raws

adding a small glob or dab of lube in the top housing

[thorn zealot]

Are we segregating switches

[fluid ravine]

yes

we are

[tropic urchin]

Holy admission

What the helly

[calm pulsar]

bro is grafting the switches @tropic urchin

[fluid ravine]

Spot the flux head ahhh

[tropic urchin]

Maybe it’ll end up better than that fist weapon off Godrick

[thorn zealot]

I read this as if u like segregation

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[calm pulsar]

I randomly found it in nightreign and it is so insane lmao

[thorn zealot]

Let me guess the one that doesn’t have a butthole

[calm pulsar]

it comes as a spell

[noble mason]

will wooting move to tmr

[tropic urchin]

Before GTA7 maybe

[calm pulsar]

q4 2039

[tidal frigate]

Only if tmr will be good enough

[fluid ravine]

real question

wooting 7u when

[tidal frigate]

Never, no 7u

[fluid ravine]

fug

[tidal frigate]

It is pointless layout

Also remember

Wooting has to do iso and ansi

[fluid ravine]

whats iso

[tropic urchin]

When we have the 2HE Tmr refresh

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/real-sad-vegeta-anime-gif-1408460939179210606

[tidal frigate]

There would be currently atleast 24 skus for 60hev2

@fluid ravine

Now add 7u to it

[tropic urchin]

We must sacrifice ISO to pave the way for the true lord’s return

[jade storm]

7U best

[harsh dove]

So who's buying me switches for my birthday?

[tidal frigate]

Calder

[upbeat sorrel]

damn ngl loving the keycaps that went with my boards

[harsh dove]

Alright, thanks, I'll let him know

[harsh dove]

Looks great, well done

I do notice the Holy80 is more Frost white while your keycaps are more paper white but close enough

[glacial wind]

it's because it does require less power BUT that's in passive state

usage in keyboards would require it to be not in that state, and used actively instead

that's the big thing a lot of those papers don't mention

[sacred elm]

Happy birthday!

[glacial wind]

happy birthday, may shafies love for sony be shared with you

[harsh dove]

Yeah where's my Sony lenses Shafie

[sacred elm]

ask sno

[harsh dove]

So I gotta ask Calder for switches, and Sno for lenses

[sacred elm]

[uneven cradle]

Sony needs a new mid range camera

A good evf too

[glacial wind]

it has been a bit since the last sony new sensor release

i'm curious to see what their next one is

[calm pulsar]

Happy birthday!

can we get the cake now

[glacial wind]

oh no wonder tmr getting more talk

i see squashyboy did a video

i wish he did a bit more research into it's application in keyboards though

he kind of just copy pasted what tmr marketing said and didn't check how it applied to keyboard tech

[tidal frigate]

I've sent comment

[tidal frigate]

So he basicly did hippyo tech

Or miggss

[fluid ravine]

Happs Borthday Big Bro

[uneven cradle]

Well we're still waiting on a TMR board that actually delivers the sensitivity claims and until then I guess I'll remain skeptical that it's ready

[fluid ravine]

I hope you wake up to your cats sitting on your belly in the morning

[tidal frigate]

So basicly wooting tmr board

[calm pulsar]

yeah it looks like a paid ad for monsgeek, but he said it wasn't sponsored, so he could be just using a "hot topic" for a video

[tidal frigate]

I don't think so there is law in singapore thats forces him to say that if it is ad

[glacial wind]

i think he's just covering it cause TMR talk is coming up in the HE space right now. The big problem is basically none of them have done research into it's keyboard usage and just copy paste the same marketing papers from the tmr brands lol

[sacred elm]

Love comments

"Oh no I just bought HE keyboard 2 days ago"

[tidal frigate]

Only issue from what I heard with he it can have issues in high temps

[sacred elm]

Tragedy.

[calm pulsar]

bro said all HE are obsolete now, gg

[uneven cradle]

Chat am I cooked I just got HE

[tidal frigate]

Guys reddit it worse than venom shills

[sacred elm]

Yes, squashy boy said that TMR is better

[calm pulsar]

fomo creeping in have to buy that plastic trash now

amazon link in the description

[tropic urchin]

Venom shills ❌ , Wooting shills ❌, TMR shills ✅

Get with the times sheeple

[calm pulsar]

well basicly that yez

[tropic urchin]

Technicly I’am sure u ment otherwize
Yes?

[glacial wind]

https://www.youtube.com/live/YQTeLQ665cc?t=1367s - we're working on making these comments into it's own video for 60he v2 launch time

[calm pulsar]

look basicly your're right

[glacial wind]

the whole tmr topic needs it's own video for it

[tropic urchin]

Your* Yez?

[calm pulsar]

the link takes me to the beginning of the video

[sacred elm]

Same

[glacial wind]

oh oops

there we go

[tropic urchin]

I’m going to take a picture with my Sony lens so this moment lasts forever and we can shame Sno

[uneven cradle]

I've generated some potential titles for that video

[tidal frigate]

I hope so i will get into video too

As esteregg

[calm pulsar]

or it could be Calder looking in the distance with the simple title "It's over."

"So I Tried The New TMR Sensors..."

[tropic urchin]

Balder with the thousand yard stare “this decision is pulling my hair out”

[tidal frigate]

Calder hair got more gray since this livestream

[glacial wind]

the only real tmr advantage so far is potential layout stuff maybe

the performance stuff hasn't materialised at all

[tidal frigate]

@glacial wind wooting files eastereeg in campaign vid when

Or i will put u in wooting files sno

[calm pulsar]

now we're talking

TMR for the win

[tropic urchin]

Who needs performance when you can have 7u space bar

[tidal frigate]

7u cant work with iso

[tropic urchin]

Get rid of the right shift while you’re at it

[calm pulsar]

who needs performance when knob

[tropic urchin]

The only layout that matters is ansi since Europe isn’t a real place

[uneven cradle]

Not convinced being able to swap to mech switches is that useful for the majority of people and having mixed is cursed

[tidal frigate]

My language layout works on ansi and iso

Definetly iso countries have skill issue converting into ansi

[tall hollow]

I meannnnnnnnn, TMR is nice, but not super duper game changing over Hall effect for this application.

[calm pulsar]

it seems the stabilizer compatibility and having to cut switch legs is the reason why split spacebar and normal couldn't be done on one pcb

[glacial wind]

well it's mostly that it hasn't proven to be an advantage yet. Wooting isn't oppose to using tmr, just that there needs to show some sort of improvement over HE first

[lyric nimbus]

whats TMR

[tall hollow]

Tunneling magnetoresistance

[lyric nimbus]

do they thock

[tall hollow]

They use the same switches as HE switches so it depends on what switch you get

[fallen pecan]

ttc hearts v2

[glacial wind]

the problem is people keep quoting general tmr info and not keyboard applicable tmr info and thinking "Oh wooting doesn't want to do it purely for cost!" when reality is we just haven't found useful advantages to implement it yet

[lyric nimbus]

ok nvm

i thought there were like

TMR switches

i lost all interest now

[tall hollow]

The only real advantage with TMR is the significant improvement in power efficiency

[glacial wind]

and even that is negated largely by needing the signal to be active constantly

[tall hollow]

Since you no longer need a constant amount of current flow through the sensor

[glacial wind]

so you lose much of the power consumption gains by keeping it active

[tidal frigate]

So no gamepad emulation

[tall hollow]

I'd argue RGB would be a bigger reason lol

Those LEDs eat power

[glacial wind]

well rgb is another thing too, but i mean purely talking about the tmr power advantages

tmr is more efficient when you don't have it active constantly for accuracy reasons

but problem is you want it active constantly

[lyric nimbus]

ok idt TMR is worth it

like

HE keyboards already feel mad sensitive to me

[calm pulsar]

funny how you say that "people keep quoting general tmr info" and someone immediately replies with "power efficiency" which is exactly general tmr info

[tall hollow]

Right, for oversampling reasons

Which wooting already does

[lyric nimbus]

why swap to TMR when HE is already sensitive enough for me

[glacial wind]

yeah the whole thing is a mess of people misunderstanding advantages of TMR and blindly believing marketing docs put out by the factories that make tmr sensors

[tall hollow]

TMR sensors can be off axis from the movement of the magnet allowing you to position it almost wherever you want within its sensing range.

But in theory the same can be achieved with multi-axis HE sensors

[lyric nimbus]

explain like im a kid please

[tall hollow]

But that would require double the amount of ADCs

Probably

[lyric nimbus]

i don't get what "off axis" means in terms of keyboards

[tall hollow]

By kid you mean said child has received a high school diploma?

[lyric nimbus]

said child has a basic understanding of electromagnetism and some understanding of high school engineering

[fallen pecan]

5yo

[tall hollow]

I can word it slightly differently, the other advantage with TMR is that the magnet's up and down movement does not have to be inline with the sensor, it can be off to the side and still work just fine with some differences in the resistance vs position curve of the magnet. Whereas in an HE sensor you want it to be as inline as possible with the movement of the magnet to reliably measure the change in voltage vs the position of the magnet.

[glacial wind]

keyboard go pew pew. People think TMR keyboard upgrade can make keyboard go pew pew pew. However, it still only goes pew pew.

[lyric nimbus]

so what im getting from this is that the magnet can be slightly misaligned from the sensor and it doesn't need to be perfectly straight with the sensor and TMR can sense stuff better than HE in this case

i see

[lyric nimbus]

thats not what i meant but yeah this is what it looks like to me

HE seems good enough for me

[tall hollow]

Correct, and this allows for some interesting PCB layouts like with the Monsgeek FUN60

Where it has both TMR and traditional hot swap sockets

Doing this with HE sensors would be very very difficult

[prime orbit]

wooting tmr when

[chilly mural]

Company gotta do rakka atlas in TMR but even that is prop a hard sell. Performance wise, i can at least see it being 0.1-0.3ms faster

[glacial wind]

we've hit cap on latency already with either he or tmr

there are no gains to be made there even swapping to tmr

[chilly mural]

But but, they said it can have 0.00001mm accuracy!!!

[woven parrot]

To

[glacial wind]

so got a look at the ow60 case, at least on my unit there's no issues with the slider

also the packaging for these is kind of a lot lol

didn't realise it's the main unit box, inside of a shipping box, inside of another box, inside the main box if you buy it either other things

[chilly mural]

can you do tikken, ow60, 60hev2 sound test?

[glacial wind]

yeah i can once i have some time

[glacial wind]

Checking it myself now with friction fit, it honestly fits perfectly with v2 so can confirm myself it works well

No time right now to swap switches but these are with the sparks that I was magnetic testing before

Phone recording ofc so it sounds a bit different but can confirm fit works well and no issues with anything weird sound wise. Just fits like any other friction fit, and the owlab case has static grounding standoff things built into it already

[sacred elm]

Seems to fit perfectly

[glacial wind]

yeah it fits great

also does discord give you a super scuffed video if you record straight to discord?

i just realized the video quality on those videos is awful lol

i just did it roughly, but wow phone video direct to discord is awful

[sacred elm]

Yeah, I think so

[little glen]

How much would you need to cut the owlab gasket to make it fit on the split space

[glacial wind]

hrm that would take a lot more testing, i wouldn't really recommend it though

i don't think the gasket mount adds much to it since you already have the switch on button for the bounce

[little glen]

True

Unless you want the double bounce

[glacial wind]

Good news though it seems your owlab case is well protected when shipped if this is how we’re shipping all of them

[little glen]

I just want qwertykeys to make an 80he case that has pc top and copper/brass bottom options

[little glen]

Never happening

[glacial wind]

Box within a box within a box within a box within a carrying case

[little glen]

How many goddamn boxes hahahaha

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-stephen-stotch-south-park-whats-going-on-what-is-all-this-gif-20597331

[chilly mural]

Nice nice. Looks like they spare no expenses on boxes

Cats going to love it

[glacial wind]

i will say i think owlab case is quite nice for more uniform sound

no standoffs in the case makes the sound across it sound a lot more even overall

[trail bane]

Depends

[jade storm]

yes

[woven parrot]

Ty @tawdry tree new keyboard transformation tmrrw

[fringe quarry]

snoo arent u a switch expert

[glacial wind]

Need something?

[fringe quarry]

do you know what the freya silent switches are

[glacial wind]

Isn’t freya a Wuque board?

I haven’t kept up to date with mx silent stuff as much

[fringe quarry]

its a switch that was added to the Venom HE Firmware recently

[uneven cradle]

got burned on some wuque silent tactile switches - apparently the mould or something went bad on later batches and I got that

[glacial wind]

Haven’t heard of it, unless it’s a mistranslation for the haimu silent

Oh geon folks say not released yet

Makes sense. Seems it’ll be an upcoming release

I’ll ask geon for a pack to add it to the list when it comes out

[fringe quarry]

oh so from geon itself?

[glacial wind]

Yeah it’s not out yet according to what I read

[fringe quarry]

interesting

or is Slient the actual name

[tall hollow]

Eh, you could use higher bit depth ADCs and ones that can sample way more often, but considering that latencies have gotten all the way down to like 1-2ms, shaving off like 0.5-1ms isn't going to be much.

[glacial wind]

I mean more as in latency held back by HE vs TMR sensor stuff

[chilly mural]

actually, we need brain interface, it'll press a key just as you mean to press it for that 0.05ms latency between visual being processed and key being pressed/triggered. No more fleshy hand to limit us

[peak breach]

Squashy boy video has hit the server

[glacial wind]

I like squashyboy but wish more research was done beyond just grabbing the tagline summary of tmr without looking into its truth

[peak breach]

The thumbnail is certainly something

[paper bison]

yeah the squashyboy video just felt like he stretched the video reading what TMR was and how it "compared" to hall effect

[tall hollow]

Oh, that's basically zero difference. Usually the latency in these kinds of analog keyboards comes from the time it takes to process the change in voltage/resistance and then processing that into a digital signal.

[glacial wind]

Unironically he would have got more views if his video was the first to actually look into the truth of tmr in keyboards instead of just assuming all tmr stuff applied to keyboard usage in the same way

[peak breach]

The tmr overlords are starting the propaganda machine

[tall hollow]

Lolz, because "tunneling magneto resistance" and "quantum technology" sounds cool to people

[chilly mural]

hmm, that emoji, I'm not bashing squashy but that awfully look like it's something that chatgpt would add

[glacial wind]

it reminds me a bit of the old laser move thing where suddenly laser mice were the cool new tech then turns out later it didn’t matter and people stopped using laser sensors

there was a period for older folks here where Logitech mice for gaming were obsessed with laser sensors

[tall hollow]

In theory yes TMR can be more accurate than HE, however you need a competent ADC to take advantage of that advantage with TMR which most keyboards don't have the hardware to do.

[chilly mural]

yesh, we should have a $300 TMR board to see its potential max accuracy

[tall hollow]

Also depending on how you configure the MCU, you might actually set the ADCs to a lower resolution to increase the sampling rate

[tall hollow]

No, probably talking like $4000+ TMR board

[chilly mural]

I mean, if people really want 0.00001mm rt, that price doesn't seems too bad. prop only be like 0.5% faster but ehh, good enough.

[tall hollow]

And I'm not kidding, when you get to TMR resolutions to see the difference you need very expensive oscilloscope level hardware to see the difference

[high citrus]

get zinc alloy

[trail bane]

Venom tmr when?

[chilly mural]

hmm, can't say. Maybe when medical equipment becomes cheap

[peak breach]

I regret buying the zinc alloy

[high citrus]

hows that?

[peak breach]

Peel

I know they are fixing it

[glacial wind]

iirc geon said in their discord there was no benefit right now to go tmr when people asked

[spiral crater]

PET film or IXPE film? for under switch if i use both i think it compresses too mcuh and makes it too loud

if i wanna make it like deep and soft

[tropic urchin]

You’d need to get a new iso PCB

[high citrus]

i thought they had?

[static wagon]

Hey everyone,
I’m currently building into a Wooting 80HE PCB and I need some advice to avoid mistakes.

From what I’ve read, the 80HE comes with screw-in PCB stabilizers, but I want to double-check before moving forward.
I already bought a set of Jade stabilizers and a brass plate that’s supposed to fit the 80HE.

👉 My question:
• Can I directly use these Jade and woooting stabilizers with the brass plate in the Wooting 80HE PCB?
• Is there any known issue with clearance/tolerance when using a brass plate in this setup?

Any feedback or confirmation from people who have tried a similar combo would be really appreciated. Thanks!

Up
I think I finally understood the situation: the Wooting 80HE PCB uses screw-in stabilizers, but I bought a set of Jade plate-mount stabilizers by mistake.

So I believe I actually need a plate that supports screw-in stabilizers, and that the Jade plate-mount stabs won’t work correctly for this build.

Can you please confirm this and let me know what you recommend?

Thanks a lot!

[little glen]

is there a specific reason you want to swap stabs?

the specific plate you ordered may have interference issues with screw in stabs

i would honestly recommend getting a plate that supports screw ins and just tune the stock stabs if they need it at all

[tawdry tree]

I wonder if they actually started to research TMR sensors more for the potential reason of layout support and thus shrinking down on SKUs.

Nearly every suggestion I made wasn’t considered beforehand

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-under256kb-peepo-pepe-discord-gif-22126250

[tawdry tree]

Mech! 🤮

[tawdry tree]

I haven’t seen those as accurate as the TMR counterparts, solely from 3rd party tests. That’s why I named it as a benefit of TMR rather than X-axis sensors in general.

[static wagon]

Ok only screw in.. jade stab are note compatible right?

[little glen]

idk what those jade stabs are

[tawdry tree]

RAKKA won’t do TMR because the current sensors are 10x (or so) slower than the HE ones. Per Rakka.

[tall hollow]

Yeah, but the question is will the benefits of TMR be meaningful with the MCUs that are in keyboards

[static wagon]

Look the photo plate mount jade stab on AliExpress

[little glen]

yeah is there a reason why you got them?

[tawdry tree]

Haimu silent recolor (but not really because it seems to have a different bottom housing). It’s by Haimu though, for sure.

[tawdry tree]

The TMR boards seem to do pretty good in performance tests but I’m not sure entirely yet. The FUN60 Ultra had a whole of 0 multi plexers..

[static wagon]

Improve sound and consistency with the jade pro switches taken

[tall hollow]

Interesting

[calm pulsar]

clearly it's because of your troll about layout support on 60hev2 that Wooting thinks that 7u, split backspace and shift are a joke😭

[little glen]

i dont see how that stab would improve sound or consistency with jade pros but if you do want to use them you will probably need a plate mount compatible plate (tho, again, i dont think its needed)

[tawdry tree]

Might not be true actually but I don’t have a picture of the full PCBA.

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

[calm pulsar]

they also talked about things like keycap support and Calder's obsession with the left spacebar being the bigger one

but damn imagine a 7u split

[tawdry tree]

[austere creek]

can confirm

[tawdry tree]

RAKKA will save us surely.

[calm pulsar]

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-gif-13813457612366790790

it was nice to hear Calder talking about some points like having to cut switch legs to accommodate different options, so at least they tried doing one SKU for split and non split

[calm pulsar]

imagine they scrapped everything to redo everything in TMR now because of better layout support

[tawdry tree]

A plate with plate-mount support has interference with most PCB mount (screw-in stabs). However, the stock PCB mount stabs are slim enough to fit plate-mount holes, so you can buy a plate with plate-mount holes and still use your Jade stabs or stock stabs.

[tawdry tree]

Did he talk about that in that stream too? I already forgot he said about that.

[calm pulsar]

yeah he mentioned that and also stabs being one of the reasons to not be able to do one SKU

he said they'd have to use plate mount stabs

so I got the impression that wiring and sensor placement isn't an issue, more so placement of switches, stabs and keycaps

[tawdry tree]

Eh, that’d be the case with both PCB and plate mounts. The goal isn’t to trim down on SKUs per se but at least people would have the ability to change it out if they end up not liking the split.

[static wagon]

Sure? Fit?

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think it was considered beforehand. It’s a good solution but I’m biased ofc.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, but if you wanted to swap to something like Typeplus, or TX AP stabs in the future, those don’t fit plate-mount holes.

[static wagon]

Better screw in with stocks and use jade for other keyboards?

[tawdry tree]

but it’s fine really. SW Knights, another popular PCB mounted stab fits perfectly fine thought plate-mount holes so you could always use those as well.

[chilly mural]

I hope there will be a spacebar cap that can turn 60hev2 split into single

[tawdry tree]

It really doesn’t matter much. Plate-mounts are a bit easier to take out though, so you might prefer them for that reason?

[tawdry tree]

Very possible but it’d have to be at the initiative of woot. Most 6.25U spacebars already support the 7U key location

I do think it’d feel quite sluggish though

[calm pulsar]

yeah it will probably be weird lol

[tawdry tree]

as you’d have to mount it on 4 stabs and a switch.

[prime orbit]

Can TMR switches work on a HE board?

I’m assuming not

[glacial wind]

It was considered beforehand, they decided they didn’t like that compromise

[tawdry tree]

There is no such thing as TMR switches, but yes, most magnetic switches used in TMR boards can be used in HE boards as well.

[tawdry tree]

I don’t know when simon brought it up internally, but I mean before that.

[prime orbit]

Oh uh

I knew that

I was just testing you

You passed

[glacial wind]

Long before it was mentioned it was considered

[tawdry tree]

Don’t think that’s true but we probably should get Jakub on that.

[little glen]

he can probably hallucinate every conversation that happened internally at wooting with minimal accuracy

[glacial wind]

I mean don’t believe me if you want. It’s not like I can look into past discussions internally or anything

[tawdry tree]

When was it brought up

[glacial wind]

quite a long time ago

A lot of the stuff you suggest is seen and discussed too btw

[tawdry tree]

you can look it up, what’s the date

[glacial wind]

I’m not looking up exact dates for you lol

[tawdry tree]

that’s a bummer

[little glen]

i bet noone knows about wootpad internally

[glacial wind]

Just because wooting doesn’t always respond or acknowledge your posts doesn’t mean feedback isn’t read and considered

[little glen]

not like the thread is pinned and calder talked in it before

[tawdry tree]

I asked wether or not it was considered before, if you remember. :)

[little glen]

7u split space 90he when

[tawdry tree]

wen TKL

[glacial wind]

It was. I am not digging up old posts again just to give you some date for whatever reason you want

[little glen]

just trying to think of some cursed options

[tawdry tree]

I don’t mean you.

[tawdry tree]

We should get mana on that.

💀

[little glen]

hhkb 65% with split space (7x 1u)

[calm pulsar]

he whose name should not be uttered

[tawdry tree]

I’ve been trying out Shift on the middle split space key because of mana

it’s quite nice

so far

frees up both shifts as well

[static wagon]

I have no preferences other than the need for compatibility/versatility without stress

[tawdry tree]

Then I’d stick with the plate-mount option.

[quasi mauve]

Hello there,
i'm quite new to Hall Effect keyboards
i was planning to move from a custom mech to custom HE.
i heard that wooting is the pioneer of HE,
but are there any good HE keyboards other than wooting?

[tawdry tree]

Typeplus and TX APs aren’t better than SW Knights.

[tawdry tree]

If you’re going for custom, I’d go with Woot. There are other boards but their pros are the built quality (prebuilt).

Mostly.

[quasi mauve]

are there any 7u options?

[tawdry tree]

Only the Venom.

[quasi mauve]

i saw that geon has it

[trail bane]

Tiger lite gaming(Venom TKL) from kbdfans is more "budget friendly"

[quasi mauve]

i see

[quasi mauve]

i was planning to buy 60% for my frog mini

[tawdry tree]

If you want 7U and don’t care for RGB, go with Venom for sure.

It’s cheaper and software is (almost?) on par with woot.

[quasi mauve]

but there is no warranty right?
i'm quite afraid since this is my first HE pcb

[tawdry tree]

That’s right.

My Venom TKL was fine but some people had issues.

I wouldn’t worry too much though, I’m pretty sure if it’s defective on arrival you’ll get a replacement.

[quasi mauve]

i'm not a huge performance guy. if it works properly, then i will be happy.

[quasi mauve]

if i'm not wrong there will be an rgb version right?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah.

[quasi mauve]

either venom or wooting is my last choice.

thank you @tawdry tree

[tawdry tree]

depends how much you value 7U, both are great options imo.

[quasi mauve]

7u is so nice,
so sad that wooting skipped that layout.

But i see the point where 7u is not a big thing if it doesn't support DB, O-Ring and such.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, you’re not the only one sad about that but it is what it is.

[tidal frigate]

@tawdry tree calder said on livestream that 7u layout is too unusual and only custom keyboard community wants them

[polar girder]

https://www.bananakeyboard.com

[tawdry tree]

It’s niche, yeah. We’ll see if they end up doing module versions with layout support.

[calm pulsar]

looks like lekkers

[tawdry tree]

Some how less cursed than all of mana’s suggestions lmao

Those are Lekker V1s by the looks of it.

Haha, yeah. The stock Lekker V1s and V1.5s are made by Gateron as well.

[chilly mural]

it's nice they have a banana for scale

[paper bloom]

Lekkers

O nvm its been said

[polar girder]

wtf PCB is this?

[tawdry tree]

Venom 60HE RGB

[tidal frigate]

Look. Already we have 24 skus add 7u and it will be 36

[tawdry tree]

24 completely necessary and unavoidable SKUs. Don’t get me started on SKUs man.. 😭

[tidal frigate]

Wait it could be more

Because. Ansi iso, split or non split, plastic or metal, white black or silver?

So technicly 48

[tawdry tree]

We’ll have to see how many they actually go through with

[tidal frigate]

I didnt count everything correctly

[tidal frigate]

Well silver case wouldnt be a thing as option in prebuilt

So as little bit less

[quasi mauve]

venom 60he RGB 7u

[polar girder]

Ah didn’t realize the rgb dropped

Nice. Enjoy

[quasi mauve]

still test unit

[quasi mauve]

oof,
7u module version would be lovely.

[tawdry tree]

One day surely 🙏

[quasi mauve]

2099

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/miguel-o'hara-spiderman-2099-gif-2499297711314894089

[polar girder]

They won’t

[quasi mauve]

tsangan is just pretty (idc about stepped capslock because i'm used to using hhkb)

[tawdry tree]

You’re just unoptimistic!

It’s their loss anyway.

[tulip rapids]

Sounds like you're not bery open minded

https://tenor.com/view/hongdae-guy-hongdae-guy-thinking-idea-gif-6722771372736748610

[quasi mauve]

6.25 for ......

[little patrol]

Hey! I've had my 80HE for some time now and want to upgrade it. The main gripe I have currently is my space bar sounds terrible. What switches, keycaps, and other recommendations do you guys have?

[trail bane]

Meh. I just can’t imagine venom w rgb. Sounds like a nonsense for me

[tulip rapids]

its happening

[trail bane]

I know

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-twerk-marvel-rivals-venom-venom-twerking-marvel-rivals-venom-kao-gif-8612916396515986082

[steady halo]

don't be denial

[steady halo]

legends

6.25 🔝

[trail bane]

80HE layout in other cases I’ll prefer 7u

[polar girder]

Yeah I have zero interest

But good to know lol

[polar girder]

Sounds like Wooting not very…. OPEN MINDED

[trail bane]

Indeed

Damn knob church before Gta 6

Ww

[chilly mural]

KNOB IN 4 MONTHS

[tulip rapids]

the wooting knob will get me all the foreign girlsu

one spin and im across zaaaa world

[trail bane]

When I tried the 7u on my friend’s keyboard, I also wanted to get a board with it

[tulip rapids]

soon i will show the foreign girls my wooting knob and then they will put their numbers in my new IPHONE 16 PRO MAX

https://tenor.com/view/hongdae-guy-hongdae-guy-thinking-idea-gif-6722771372736748610

"Take a spin if you want to visit Hongdae way"

Wooting 60v2 PRO MAX

@fluid ravine EXCUUUUUUUUUUSSSEEEE ME

[polar girder]

Yeah 7u is goated

[fluid ravine]

Yes?

[tulip rapids]

Sorry for the ping i was bored

wont happened again

https://tenor.com/view/hongdae-guy-hongdae-guy-thinking-idea-gif-6722771372736748610

[fluid ravine]

[tulip rapids]

The Hongdae in me can't be controlled

[uneven rapids]

hello, do people usually swap their stock stabs for new ones? I'm trying to make my spacebar/keyboard sound better. Will it be noticeable? (on 80he)

[thorn zealot]

If u tune ur stock stabs well enough then it will sound the same as any other well tuned stabs

[uneven rapids]

by tuning you mean lubing?

[thorn zealot]

Lubing and straightenin the wires

[tender edge]

How to mod the left shift stabilizer? Its so short, already straight but still ticking

Im thinking of buying the meletrix ws 3.1 silicon stabs to swap them

[uneven rapids]

if I don't want to mess with lubing, can I simply go for new ones? I will disassemble soon my keyboard for new switches and case, I could swap the stabs in the meantime (from what I've seen, it's easy)

[mental bone]

Hi, does anyone know if there is a way (firmware?) to have a Wooting One only connected to usb power light up? I want to hang it up on the wall and have some kind of rgb effect rolling through, but the keyboard doesnt seem to light up without a connection to a pc.
Help appreciated! :)

[thorn zealot]

All stabs need lube

[tulip rapids]

if you buy new stabs you would need to lube them

[uneven rapids]

they arent prelubed?

[tulip rapids]

so either way you kinda got to mess with the lubing

[thorn zealot]

No

[tulip rapids]

no.

[uneven rapids]

oh ok

[thorn zealot]

Unless u get em built by someone

But imo that’s a waste of money

[uneven rapids]

I understand

[tulip rapids]

its not hard to lube

[uneven rapids]

if this the only way to improve spacebar sound & feel ?

[glacial wind]

mainly yea, that and throw in some $3 spacebar foam if you want to cut the noise in it a bit

good lube job does most of the work, then spacebar foam will take the sharp noise out of spacebar if it bothers you

the only real difference between popular 3rd party stabs and your stock stabs is your stock ones probably require a bit more lube with the wire to make sure they don't tick

once tuned you can't tell the difference at all, and I've had boards posted here before where people can't tell the difference between one stab stock and one stab with latest and greatest

[uneven rapids]

thanks for the piece of advice! I will look into that

also while I'm here, I will also remove the pads underneath the stabs because my spacebar is sticky - do I have to replace it by something?

or is there no difference in sound and feel?

[glacial wind]

nah no need to replace

they don't really do much with properly lubed stabs anyway

we don't even have them in the newer units of 80he because they just caused issues

[uneven rapids]

ok! thanks

[vernal crater]

Will they ever re-release the lekker switch style keycaps?

[strange viper]

yo guys who can help me ? i want to mod my wooting two HE so the sound is going to be similar to the Apex pro mini but i dont know what to change please if someone knows come MP

[tulip rapids]

sell the two HE and buy the 80 HE

https://tenor.com/view/muhehe-cat-muhehe-muhehehe-cat-muhehehe-smirk-cat-muhehe-gif-17142133339517585968

[trail bane]

Best decision imho

[strange viper]

nahhh i want to keep my two he

[trail bane]

I’m not a big fan of skeleton keyboards

[strange viper]

so anyone knows anything ?

[trail bane]

Hmm(m), I don’t know how sounds Apex pro mini but you can try put some foams inside of your keyboard or change switches

[strange viper]

wich switches ?

[strange viper]

thanks

[trail bane]

Preference 🙌

[strange viper]

wich ones are the loudest and can be to 0.01 mm ?

[uneven cradle]

Going to be hard for a full size keyboard to sound like a 60, but the new switches will make your keyboard sound better

[strange viper]

i will juste put into the left section of the keyboard

[sacred elm]

Get Owlab Ti, they are pretty loud and clacky

Will sound miles better than Apex Pro crap

[strange viper]

ok thanks bro

[tulip rapids]

time for upgrade

[ripe zenith]

hello! total beginner here, is there any way to change a key on the 80H into a volume knob?

[chilly mural]

https://wooting.io/knobs something like this?

There should also be a keybind in wooting remapping page that allows to set 1 key as either volume up or down

No on pc so can't show

[ripe zenith]

yoooo thanks a lot! will wait for this then!

[chilly mural]

Thank wooting, you wont see this shit anywhere else. Just 6 more months.

[ripe zenith]

fr this is exactly what I was looking for, like, 1 to 1 recreation of what I had in mind I wanted

coming from a G915 and now taiting for my 80H to arrive, I noticed the missing volume control (except of course though hotkeys) and yea, the idea appeared hahahah

[trail bane]

Gn y’all

https://tenor.com/view/feednanyangi-nanyangi-luna-jaemin-luna-sleepy-nanyangi-sleepy-gif-1596089920556574778

[stiff ivy]

New gateron switch, any reviewers yet or not in that phase yet?

[tropic urchin]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

I’m not sure if anyone has bought any yet

[old sapphire]

which lube and stabilizers do you guys recommend for the wooting 80he the space bar is very wobbly

[paper token]

could you elaborate on how that is possible? On for TMR switches their TMR sensor is usually in a totally different position compared to hall sensors for HE switches - not to mention that hall and TMR sensors have different axis of sensitivity to even activate properly.
Are there any examples you could provide to back up what you said, where you could remplace an HE switch with a TMR one on a wooting e.g.?

[tropic urchin]

Super lube and 205g is pretty handy. If it’s wobbly could be either switch or your stabilizers aren’t properly tuned

[tropic urchin]

Stock is fine, unless you want to buy 3rd party prelubed and pretuned, you’ll need to do work on them anyway

[ornate quest]

That is actually the opposite of what he said. He said you could swap HE switches into either HE (Wooting) or TMR boards

[digital vale]

Hmm do i sell my 60he+ to get the 80

[tropic urchin]

If you want the bigger layout yes, just for 8k polling probably not worth the hassle

If you want a better stock 60%, the 60hev2 is coming out by EoY

[digital vale]

Kinda do want a tkl'esque layout but ive invested in the optimum case so the roi on that will tank hard 💀

[tropic urchin]

I’m sure someone will want it, a couple others have sold theirs to put towards a new board

My advice would be to accept the sunk cost and move on if that’s the route you wanna go, modding is expensive, but nothing is better than building a dream setup imo

[digital vale]

I hear you, however im considering just keeping it incase i ever wanna go back, currently got the geon raws, poly carb plate, and the optimum case, think the loss will be kinda big

[paper token]

He said there is no difference between HE and TMR switches, just generally calling them magnetic and that they are interchangeable - and I haven't seen real world examples of this, hence the question. Do you have any examples of this being the case because I can't find any?

[tropic urchin]

Having both is kinda fun too

Something to think about, but I’d scout out what you think you wanna do for the 80HE and base your potential sell around that

[digital vale]

It'll look good on a stand as a trophy on my desk worst case scenario

[digital vale]

Any cases you recommend for the 80? I've heard both GT and the Zinc sounds good, cant decide

[tropic urchin]

I have both and absolutely LOVE the GT80 for the ball catch system

Zinc sounds nice, but the case screws are annoying if you wanna mod your keyboard

If you value convenience 100% GT80

[digital vale]

Leaning towards GT with some ultras, polycarb plate, should sound decent

or are there even aftermarket plates for the 80 lol

[tropic urchin]

Maybe try a different plate for the new build, FR4 is worth checking out if you want something with a bigger punch to it since PC plate dampens a lot of sound

[tropic urchin]

Yeah it goes from softest to stiffest in this order: PP, PC, POM, FR4, Aluminum, Brass, CF and steel

Stiffest = more clacky, but FR4 is a very balanced option imo

[digital vale]

Deeper/thoccy sounds are more my forte, kinda why i went PC with my 60

[tropic urchin]

If you look on aliexpress you should be able to find a FR4 plate for decent price, unless you’re going for a more quiet switch sound/softer feel then fair for PC

You can def get that deeper sound on both

[digital vale]

Will def consider the FR4 plate, will check up on some videos to compare some sound profiles they give with the 80

[tropic urchin]

For the new 60HEv2 they’re using stock FR4 + new tikken switches which are going for that poppy/deeper sound profile, so worth keeping an eye out

I think the combo sounds nice

Then if you go for like UR ice ultras it should sound pretty deep too

[digital vale]

To be fair im not vibing with the split spacebar but the tikkens does have me interested

[tropic urchin]

True

Luckily it’s not the default and normal is still there

[digital vale]

Yeah im super happy with how my 60 sounds and all just missing the F row to be honest

[tropic urchin]

https://www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-51010-Oil/dp/B000BXOGHY, you're better off just keeping the default stabs and getting a tuning station, but if you're US based you can check out any Knight stabilizers on Zkeebs if you aren't looking to do any work on them for pretuned/prewire balanced

[winged tusk]

should i go geon rapter v2 or owlab ti switch

[old sapphire]

thanks!

im just gonna lube it no need for new stabs

[tropic urchin]

Yeah stabs are going to sound/feel the same no matter what, so not a whole lot to be gained going 3rd party

[tender edge]

Have a question, is the 80he stabilizers Long Pole? Whats the difference with the T and the LP, im about to buy some tx ap but theres these 2 versions does it fit?

[fluid ravine]

No, the stock stabilizers on the 80HE are not long pole. They're normal travel distant stabs that support 4mm switches like the Lekkers and Tikkens.
TX AP stabilizers Rev 4 comes in 2 types, normal and Long pole. The T means PCB thickness and for your information, Wooting's PCB is 1.6mm so you would get 1.6T stabs.
I wouldn't honestly get TX AP or even Long pole stabilizers for reduced travel distance switches, it's better to save money and buy some Geon spacers that is an alternative solution for shorter travel switches.

[spice plover]

Guyssssss

60ow drop soooooon

[trail bane]

Hii

[spice plover]

Hi lander nice to see you

[high citrus]

anyone have any experience if whether a plate mod is worth pursuing more than a stabiliser mod for the 80he in improving the sound profile?

[noble turret]

And do you have any links to good plates and stabilisers?

[little glen]

You can get a custom plate from hypekeyboards

As for stabs, stock are fine and otherwise you can try yikb or knight stabs

[high citrus]

u might be right. seems better value modding the plate than changing stabs for the sound profile

[glacial wind]

stabs don't really change sound profile

they have varying amounts of movement but your sound profile isn't really going to be that different swapping stabs vs. switches and plate

[high citrus]

assuming the wires are tuned right then yea

ur right

[high citrus]

i was looking for a good combo myself. standalone toronto keyboards have a decent modding kit with foam

i ordered staebies not knowing they wouldnt be compatible with the aformentioned modding kit

[glacial wind]

the toronto man kit is a resold taobao/aliexpress keyboard fun shop kit just fyi

if you have access to those then it's usually cheaper to buy there

[little glen]

i had to buy a custom plate cause ISO

😭

[high citrus]

exactly. i got myself the standalone fr4 and afaik the vendors there are more lenient on fabricating the plate according to spec within a limited choice set

mostly if ur deciding on the slot design which should have some effect on resonance frequency/damping or something

theres also much greater availability to choose materials

oh sorry for mentioning u

[woven parrot]

Yoo

[tawdry tree]

Most commonly used sensors in keyboards:

• HE: Y-axis (vertical), mounted centered directly below the magnet.
• TMR: X-axis (horizontal), mounted off-center below the magnet.

I’m not entirely sure why this works (I haven’t found a datasheet for this TMR sensor yet), but I presume that detecting the ‘side’ of the magnetic field below the magnet is sufficient for the sensor. It could be that the sensor has a very wide FOV, but if that were the case, it would essentially function as an X-Y sensor, which I doubt.

Examples of cross-compatible TMR boards: The FUN60 Ultra and the Womier SK75 TMR. Cherry’s TMR board is likely cross-compatible as well, since their switches work fine in the 80HE. The Lemokey L5 HE (which is actually TMR) is the only exception, not because it uses TMR sensors, but because of Keychron (Lemokey)’s tuning for their switches with weaker magnets. The same applies to their HE boards; those aren’t cross-compatible either.

[tidal frigate]

I didnt know keychron went tmr

[tawdry tree]

Ye

@everytwo, Unionwell Polar Pro+, 90pcs/$30 😃👍
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EHnf826

KPrepublic’s early bird discounts are kinda crazy

[little glen]

are they any good tho

[tawdry tree]

Split stem

[little glen]

sounds like a no

[tawdry tree]

Well, it’s hard to verify

but if it does work, they’re good for performance and that’s it.

it’s cheap tho, so you can try em if you haven’t yet

[little glen]

i think i will refrain from buying more switches until tikkens tbh

then i can frankenswitch those

[tropic urchin]

Ah yes the polar bro +s

[fallen pecan]

drinkey switch

more fluxies

[neon nexus]

Does anyone know where I can get these keycaps, the seller doesn't ship to my country :(
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005007117244062.html

[little glen]

these look like mx

[tawdry tree]

BigLucky

[fallen pecan]

they are

[little glen]

i sill need to find a mx board to recommend to my brother

i was just gonna say neo 65 core plus but i think its slightly out of budget

[tropic urchin]

Did they really make a 45g switch option and not make the springs available

[meager skiff]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007278825498.html do these ship to you?

[tawdry tree]

it’s mech

so wouldn’t fit anyway

😭

[tropic urchin]

Ah ic

[tropic urchin]

Until I get them to put into my mech office keyboard to assert dominance

[neon nexus]

you don't know how long I have been searching for the same color everywhere

tysm

[meager skiff]

happy to help

[tropic urchin]

@tawdry tree I might replace my Azoth switches with some fun tactile ones tho

[tawdry tree]

you mean replace the board?

did you actually buy it yourself?

[tropic urchin]

It’s not the $500 one

[manic hound]

Anyone try gateron magnetic green dragons?

[tawdry tree]

as if $300 is much better

[tawdry tree]

Pricey compared to Hejin’s walled stem switches

not worth imo

[tropic urchin]

My only issue with it is the switch double actuation, overall board is fine

[tawdry tree]

like the Phylina Lightnings

[tawdry tree]

it’s just expensive and doing too much

aesthetically

[manic hound]

I saw a sound test, but was curious if anyone has actually tried them

Amazon has 90 for $80 I think

[tropic urchin]

Most large brands are once you go looking enough, I wanted something different from the huntsman TKL I had at the time, but the performance was kinda meh and then I went with 80HE

I consider the $170-250 range to be rather identical with what you’re going to get, so for me it’s kinda whatever

[tawdry tree]

a robbery, yeah

I don’t really get the gaming focused mech boards anymore tbh

[tropic urchin]

Yeah, knowing what I know now I’d stay away from the specific brands for that

[tawdry tree]

but cause u already have it, tactiles are fun. you should get some :)

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[tropic urchin]

I need to do some more mech switch research, but tactiles are on my list

[tawdry tree]

only reason to get mech for me would be customizability

[tropic urchin]

That’s also why I was drawn to the board originally bc it was hotswappable, but the software quickly made me want to drive off a bridge

[tawdry tree]

what was that shit called again?

iron crate or some shit right?

😭

[tropic urchin]

Armourycrate

I remember I updated it once and then my RGB was permanently dimmed to 1%

It took 3 months for them to fix it

[tawdry tree]

lmfao

[tropic urchin]

Between that and the switches double actuating I bought the 80HE July of last year

I was fed up

I miss the OLED time/date being readily there but it was the price of salvation

[tawdry tree]

crazy that the 80HE is still like $80 cheaper

[tawdry tree]

what did you use it for?

[tropic urchin]

I just used the screen to show the time

Part of me wanted to program it to be something funny but I liked the time function

[tawdry tree]

I can’t read lmao. I see

[tropic urchin]

You’d fit right in

[tawdry tree]

date and time is nice, yeah

[tropic urchin]

For my mech switches I’m between arc’s rec of HMX and seeing if I like a tactile off milktooth

[tawdry tree]

HMX tactile then 😃👍

they released some new ones iirc

https://youtu.be/4sQrrFT_gK0

I have no idea if they’re actually good

[woven parrot]

Yo

I’m modded my keyboard time to put on the keycaps

I will show you real quick

[tawdry tree]

Hi conquerer of all

[woven parrot]

I’m @ life

[woven parrot]

Hi

Ok I cooking

[tawdry tree]

Worth the £70?

[woven parrot]

I will give you sound test

Yes bro

I forgot keyboard layout one sec

[fallen pecan]

dang 70 pounds, I got my 90pcs for ~23 pounds converted

[fallen pecan]

not bad

[tawdry tree]

@tropic urchin go buy

[tropic urchin]

Will be on my top 5 list of considerations

[stiff ivy]

Jade pros?

[trail bane]

Big lucky Mechanical

[woven parrot]

Yo I got the sound test ready for you

[woven parrot]

Ye

Idk why but it sound a bit worse when I put it on my desk and it the same before I gotten the keyboard any tips?

[noble turret]

Thank you!!

[south anchor]

Any good keycaps for the 80he ?

[trail bane]

Preference

[south anchor]

Honestly new keyboard world never modded what are your recommendations

[tranquil lake]

I love kbdfans neon r2 glitter. But preferences.

[trail bane]

Most pbtfans releases are cool

[little glen]

Just depends what you think looks good and fits within a price range you are ok with

[tropic urchin]

Anything not UV printed imo, I’d take a look on Pbtfans to see if you like any designs, GMK is also an option if you have $$ (more expensive)

[south anchor]

I was looking into something like this but would want the the black darker and the orange like a grey color

[little glen]

So… you want a set that is completely different

[tropic urchin]

https://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com

Use this link and go to previous sets, it should give you like 90% of major keycap releases and see if you find a few sets that catch your eye

Very handy

[stray tiger]

https://divinikey.com/products/keykobo-nichirin-keycaps

[tropic urchin]

Thockfather with the recs 👀

[calm pulsar]

very nice set

[tropic urchin]

Does have kinda cool novelties

[tough ether]

Hi guys

Thinking of ordering my first wooting for mainly tac fps shooters.. which switches are the “best” for that

Lekker v2 60s or ttc kom switches?? Any thoughts

[glacial wind]

it’s just personal preference on sound mostly. Some are a little more stable feeling if that’s a factor for you. Check the latest post in #🪛│modding_faq

[stray tiger]

New Key Machine went live today too https://thekeymachine.com/products/005

[little glen]

Thats pretty cool

[glossy pagoda]

Owlabs cases are in stock and available for purchase globally (except China)

Go nuts 💸

[glacial wind]

@spice plover time to buy

[manic hound]

I love group buys but dang… almost 4-5 months on keycaps hurts I’m too impatient

Those would be perfect for my build though

[tropic urchin]

@sacred elm hear me out OW60 + deep clack fluxies

[calm pulsar]

4-5 months is not even bad for a group buy

[tropic urchin]

Gives you time to forget about it

[manic hound]

Yeah and I just don’t like waiting any amount of time

I understand people will wait up to 2 years for certain stuff but I won’t lol

Those are cool tho

[glacial wind]

Ow60 not shafies style. He’s more an optimum case guy

[tropic urchin]

I know

That’s why he needs it

[glacial wind]

True he needs to pair the most absurdly expensive switches with a case that costs more

[tropic urchin]

OW60 gives optimum performance hence the need

[glacial wind]

You can’t have your switches cost more than your case

[tropic urchin]

My fluxies definitely costed more than my case

[glacial wind]

it tilts the spending balance, he needs it to be 2:1 ratio case to switches

[glossy pagoda]

I can make a custom order for an Optimum case at the price of an Owlabs case, does that work? \

[glacial wind]

@sacred elm going to wake up to some exciting offers

[calm pulsar]

what about ow60 for the cost of optimum

[tropic urchin]

I would like to see an owlab 80 case

Maybe not for my wallet considering GMK Selene isn’t in GB yet

[glacial wind]

I do like the top profile of the ow60. Bottom is a bit busy for me on 60%, but after using it for a day I quite like the top and side profile

[glossy pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-bunny-no-nope-nou-gif-13480425249407915803

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-shucks-bashful-shy-gif-19018531

[tropic urchin]

Here’s a more reasonable offer, what about no case, but T45s 🌹

[glossy pagoda]

I don't have any Douglas T-45 Goshawk jets left in stock, sorry

[glacial wind]

The owlab case unboxing is truly an experience too

5 boxes in one, you get to truly unbox

[tropic urchin]

Ah you see the T45 is just the Tikken 45g like the lekker you see

[glossy pagoda]

Pff regular Tikkens are old news anyway, the real meta is now ||redacted||

[glacial wind]

I will say if you somehow get shipping damage from owlab case it has to be an act of god

[tropic urchin]

Interesting, are you paid for said redacted switches

[trail bane]

Oh damn I forgot that ow60 costs 500 usd

Ay caramba

[glossy pagoda]

I tried to get approval for $420.69

I was denied

[trail bane]

500usd is pretty close to 150k so I highly recommend pick Mark as shipping method

[glossy pagoda]

I'm going to the US soon anyway, perfect timing

[tropic urchin]

Might need to define “pretty close” there lander my boy

[trail bane]

Free < 500 < 150k

[tropic urchin]

You’d need 300 cases to hit $150k

[trail bane]

I don’t believe you sir

[safe stag]

"NL btw"

[glossy pagoda]

Belasting toegevoegde waarde

[tropic urchin]

Don’t take my word for it, calculate 500x300

[trail bane]

Fake info m8

[manic hound]

Holy fk wat is the extra 70 eur charge

[glossy pagoda]

It's not extra, it's included

A little thing called "tax"

[manic hound]

O

[tropic urchin]

Nonsense

[manic hound]

Love that VAT euro nonsense doesn’t apply to US

although Shipping might as well be as much lol

[glossy pagoda]

Wild take

[manic hound]

Just depends on the company

[glossy pagoda]

You know, I saw a US order a few months ago that had seven unique taxes applied

[manic hound]

Sometimes they will eat the int. Shipping charge with a flat rate

[tropic urchin]

Just don’t live in Colorado easy

[manic hound]

Not sure how not wanting to pay an EU mandated nonsense tax is a wild take but to each is own lol

We get shafted enough in the US as is

[glossy pagoda]

I'd rather pay a single tax upfront, included in the product price, than half a dozen different taxes on the back end

Only two things in life are certain: death and taxes

[trail bane]

Oh damn. If I buy ow60 case, I’ll have to pay an additional tax on this purchase, since as I remember, internet purchases worth more than 1000 zlotys are subject to an extra tax in Poland

[manic hound]

Which other taxes are you referring to

On the “back end”

[glossy pagoda]

State sales tax, local, municipality, etc

[trail bane]

Hey @tidal frigate Am I right about this?

[tropic urchin]

Might just be a Colorado order since ik they have quite a few taxation layers depending where they live @manic hound

Mark probably can’t say but that’s what I’m thinking

[manic hound]

Does Colorado have additional taxes on goods outside of sales tax, in online orders??

[robust siren]

how limited is this drop

[manic hound]

That’s rough

[glossy pagoda]

Yup, was Colorado

[tropic urchin]

There it is

[glossy pagoda]

Until it's gone

[tropic urchin]

Definitely fuck eagle county

[manic hound]

Yeah that’s cooked. I’m surprised whoever you are buying from even has a tax nexus in Colorado, but maybe they do enough business

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-gif-20462984

[manic hound]

With you Coloradians of whatever you call yourself

[glossy pagoda]

We charged those taxes to someone, not the other way around

[manic hound]

Oh I thought you were buying, is this a wooting order

[glossy pagoda]

Yea

[manic hound]

Well, I’d still rather pay my states tax over VAT anyday of the week. Specifically because I don’t live in Colorado or Cali haha

And as long as there’s no more tariffs

(Fingers crossed)

[little glen]

very disappointed that the case isnt 70 cents more expensive

[glossy pagoda]

Either way, unless you make many millions, you're paying taxes one way or another

Me too Wizard, me too...

[little glen]

lets start a revolt

[trail nebula]

Anyone know if the Owlab case will be compatible with Wooting 60 he v2?

[glossy pagoda]

Yes

Though you must use the Wooting plate intead of the CF plate from Owlabs

For the split keyboard version*

[tidal frigate]

No you dont. You only pay price and vat and delivery

[trail nebula]

I figured, thanks for the quick confirmation. I guess I'll put a generic 60 pcb in until the v2 launches

I might've missed this, but I haven't heard of a 60He v2 module, that's not in the works at the moment, is that correct?

[trail bane]

Sheesh, ok

[tawdry tree]

It is.

[tawdry tree]

Supposedly 800

[trail nebula]

The world is just aligning for me, everything I want is in production. I say this typing on an Owlab board waiting for the 60HE v2, thanks all!

[manic hound]

Well in wootings case I’ll pay less for an 80he living in a state that Isint Colorado haha

[tidal frigate]

I got kinda fucked by buying it with gift card because i paid more due to making it in eur and it had like tripple currency conversion

[glossy pagoda]

Orders for the case in the US are flying in

[tidal frigate]

How much it is in usa

[ocean shale]

does the ow60 case work for the 60he v2 config?

[glossy pagoda]

Yes

[glossy pagoda]

$420

[ocean shale]

ty @glossy pagoda

[tidal frigate]

I thought tarrifs would affect price

[trail bane]

[glossy pagoda]

They did

[solemn crescent]

Why is there an ansi and iso versions of the case

[tidal frigate]

Case was 420 before

[glossy pagoda]

Euros

[glacial wind]

Yep, there’s a section under the specs on the page that I added listing compatibility.

Normal v2 is fully compatible and split v2 is compatible if you use friction fit with wootings plate

[solemn crescent]

*ow 60

[glossy pagoda]

Which included VAT

[glacial wind]

Hopefully gothix wakes up lol. Would be a shame if he slept through the drop that he was waiting for

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-gif-9980668056796018353

[calm pulsar]

didnt he say he was looking for a replica?

[glacial wind]

Think he couldn’t find anything he liked, he’s been in here waiting for the drop since last week

he was here earlier today waiting, I assume he went to sleep so hopefully he doesn’t miss it

[manic hound]

Too bad the bad orange man doesn’t even understand how tarrifs function

[tropic urchin]

He should, it’s his favorite word after all

[manic hound]

We’re absolutely WINNING

[tidal frigate]

I thought it would be like 600 usd

[marble sierra]

@tawdry tree Wonder if the new cases are better than the old ones

[tidal frigate]

We will see

[tawdry tree]

surely

[glacial wind]

Mine had no issues

[marble sierra]

"This case is all about premium craftmanship, high-end design & its unique suspension system"

💀

[tawdry tree]

review units don’t count!

[tidal frigate]

Agree

[tropic urchin]

Just have clout @tawdry tree

[glacial wind]

Mine came from the batch itself, I even got all the boxes to prove it

[tropic urchin]

It’s easy

[marble sierra]

Isn't there more cases now that have the suspension system

[tawdry tree]

I really wonder if they actually changed something

that’s what matters afterall

[tawdry tree]

The AULA iirc

comes with a free keyboard too

💀

[tidal frigate]

Is it new or old batch

[glacial wind]

New

[tidal frigate]

Can you show insides of case

[glacial wind]

My order was only put through and sent after the new batch came in

[tidal frigate]

So we can compare

[glacial wind]

I can’t dismantle it right now, I need it for sound tests

[manic hound]

At least $419 is less than 419 EUR

WERE really winning now!!

[glacial wind]

I tested the switch suspension thing for a bit though and there were no issues with mine at least

[tawdry tree]

if no fixes were made, we’ll know soon enough

[tidal frigate]

If people would complain on discord

[tawdry tree]

and there are more cases this time, so it should be more apparent

[tawdry tree]

or its reviews..

[tidal frigate]

Atleast we have 2year warranty on mechanism

[marble sierra]

🤣

[tropic urchin]

I had to double take I thought Sno was messing with everyone 😭😭

“Oh so he’s lying now” “wait a second”

[glacial wind]

Unless its a not for sale/not stocked product, wooting staff get their products same system as rest of folks btw. It’s just an order in the system that’s discounted for staff purchases

[tawdry tree]

it’d be funny af if they still ship the red carrying case with the beige OW60

[marble sierra]

Wait that happened?

[glacial wind]

Yeah no that’s literally the boxes they came with

[tawdry tree]

yeah, there was never a beige carrying case afaik

lol

[glacial wind]

it came inside like 4 boxes and a carrying case

[stoic ocean]

Yo bluds ow60 is a tray mount case ?

[tawdry tree]

gasket

frictiom

more so friction than gasket though

[stoic ocean]

Like the optimum ?

[tawdry tree]

yeah kinda

it doesn’t rest on standoffs

which is a good thing

[marble sierra]

Yeah overall it's a nice case if you have no issues with it

[stoic ocean]

This sht look fire but idk if my wallet can support the price

[tawdry tree]

for $300-350 or so it would be imo

[tidal frigate]

I only had three boxes

[glacial wind]

You probably didn’t order other things with yours

[austere creek]

did you want 4?

[glacial wind]

I assume if you order just the case then you get 3 boxes around the carrying case, but if you order other things with it they put both in a 4th box

[glossy pagoda]

More boxes for Dali

[manic hound]

I still think optimums case is goated. Needs to make a 80he variant

[tidal frigate]

Well sno got it in four. So packaging changed between batches

[glacial wind]

I assume you didn’t order an extra 80he with yours

[tawdry tree]

we don’t get the “Wooting Case” box

[tidal frigate]

Oh ye i only bought case

[tawdry tree]

other than that it’s the same

[glacial wind]

They might have repacked them a bit different for second batch

[calm pulsar]

these boxes are so awesome can I just order them separately? I'd be heartbroken if I only had 3 boxes come with my ow60

[tawdry tree]

I think it’s a review unit, not sure tho

[glacial wind]

Yeah don’t joke about that please. People will take it serious

[tidal frigate]

Agreed

[tropic urchin]

Maybe that’s why ppl got defective units, the 4th box protects the suspension

[tawdry tree]

A bit of ragebait now and then is alright surely

[tropic urchin]

I can’t believe how real implorator got that shit 🤣😭

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-gif-3944837017366223108

[tawdry tree]

[marble sierra]

That's the unedited picture before Sno sent it, I've accessed his PC 🤣

[glacial wind]

I’m still unsure really why we had the middle box there which only fits one case inside when the box after it is also branded wooting x owlab case

[tawdry tree]

I doubt they actually send those out like that

it’d be a big ass waste

[glacial wind]

No they literally do

As I said before, wooting staff orders go through same system as your order

We just have codes to discount it down to 0 for marketing etc

It’s still shipped by the warehouse folks without our input

[tawdry tree]

that’d be sad if true

think of the trees

😭😭

[calm pulsar]

if you had that code as your phone number, what would your phone number be?

[glacial wind]

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