#🔧│keyboard_modding

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glacial wind
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go forth leak chasers, swarm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAsPilehC6A

tropic urchin
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I can hear Jakubix opening up stream

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Body language synthesizing engaged

glacial wind
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it's a calder solo stream, this is your best chance for leaks

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there's no one to stop the leaks

trail bane
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My boy is streaming with Calder

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Wata W

tropic berry
tropic urchin
chilly mural
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Calder do be struggling to explain new switch selector feature

glacial wind
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lmao there's probably maybe 1 in 100 people that understand the analogy right now

cyan lark
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💀 zone

left depot
chilly mural
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It seems like the switch selector as described is just like adjusting the focus on a camera lens.

glacial wind
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yeah it basically allows auto calibration to be faster and easier since it's starting from a place with more accurate data points

chilly mural
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Yesh, gonna be nice

fallen pecan
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Aifei has a similar set for 80 yuan

tropic berry
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Everything but the letter legends are nice

golden oar
glacial wind
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ah a nice no leak stream, nothing to see here

left depot
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Switchy is tired

trail bane
sacred elm
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Tikkens will have long spring SwitchyPog

stoic ocean
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This is the same ?

tropic urchin
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40-45g long spring đŸŒč

sacred elm
tropic urchin
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Wooting with only 1 spring size going to make me crash out ong

sacred elm
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It will be around 42g initial force and 54g bottom out

tropic urchin
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Fuck that

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Owlabs it is

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GGs chat

stoic ocean
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Guys where i can find groupbuys and interest check

sacred elm
tropic urchin
tropic urchin
sacred elm
fallen pecan
tropic urchin
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Another Shafie pot calling the kettle black moment

sacred elm
tropic urchin
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45g mouse sooo heavy

sacred elm
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so heavy, unusable.

glacial wind
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this stream is going off the rails lol

sacred elm
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calder losing his mind

stoic ocean
stoic ocean
tropic urchin
steady halo
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the long spring

glacial wind
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another successful totally leak free wooting stream accomplished

austere creek
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wait till they find the ARG hidden in it

reef oar
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the next interloper steps are in the livestream

sweet oak
honest spear
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Just received my Haimu Dove HE, they are kinda silent, there's room for improvement, I don't try other silent switch options tho.
And they are quiet rattling, you can even hear the spring noise a little. Maybe they need some extra lubing.

They will do, but I'm hoping for a better option in the future.

tawdry tree
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They do need more lubing.

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Same with the Haimu Silents (which they seem to be a recolor of).

sacred elm
tawdry tree
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No.

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:(

ionic breach
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oh a calder solo stream

prisma stump
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@flat cobalt my owlab’s came in yesterday and they’re great!!

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I love them so much

ionic breach
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havo i havent even got mine until now

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they are never in stock when i check

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they are now

prisma stump
prisma stump
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Spent extra $20 for them to arrive in 2 days. Total ended up being $60

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Now Im just waiting for my GT-80 order to be fulfilled

gritty stirrup
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can someone help me? did i mess up something? i thought it would be way way brighter

left depot
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u can change the brightness in wootility

gritty stirrup
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i have global brightness at 100 already

left depot
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did you have rgb equiped to your other keys and have it saved to your active profile?

gritty stirrup
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scared idk how that works

tropic urchin
ionic breach
ionic breach
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do you mind sending a screenshot of wootility's rgb tab?

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uncropped if possible

reef oar
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yeah that shit is on like 1%

ionic breach
# gritty stirrup

Im going to assume that another rgb programme/app is interfering with the keyboard

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stuff like artemisrgb or signalrgb commonly

gritty stirrup
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i dont think i have any of that

reef oar
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try a preset

gritty stirrup
reef oar
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if the leds are still low

gritty stirrup
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thats all i have open rn

ionic breach
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but the colour u chose

reef oar
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i would have no idea

ionic breach
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is very dim by default

reef oar
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if the colors are fine, it's that specific profile

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yeah

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honestly

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you might need to just raise the color picker to the top

ionic breach
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ive checked on mine

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its very dim

reef oar
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since you can't have black leds

left depot
ionic breach
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but ur spacebar idfk lmao

reef oar
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it'l just dim it instead

left depot
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and is this profile now active on your keyboard?

gritty stirrup
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any super super bright profile you can share?

tropic urchin
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Try to find the Miami nights in the RGB presets

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It’s usually brighter than god

left depot
reef oar
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the miami preset is goated

gritty stirrup
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yeah its the same issue sec

tropic urchin
gritty stirrup
sacred elm
gritty stirrup
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i have the owl ti he

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i copied a video sec

sacred elm
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Yes, are they installed north facing?

ionic breach
gritty stirrup
reef oar
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oh god

gritty stirrup
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i did the same as him

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on the left

sacred elm
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Yea thats wrong

reef oar
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gg

left depot
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thats wrong yeah

gritty stirrup
ionic breach
left depot
reef oar
tropic urchin
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Dumb question wasn’t dumb after all đŸ€“

ionic breach
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o7 that switch remover doing overtime

sacred elm
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Remove all switches, RGB window should be facing north

gritty stirrup
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the spacebar too?

ionic breach
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nah

sacred elm
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Yes

ionic breach
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spacebar is correct it looks like

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unless it isnt

gritty stirrup
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but space is the same as the rest

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xd

ionic breach
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dafuq?

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oh yea the 4 others

sacred elm
gritty stirrup
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bow ty guys

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i shouldnt have watch that video

prisma stump
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My right hand still kinda hurts from the amount of force I had to exert to take out some of those lekker v2’s from my 80he pcb

reef oar
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yeah your fingers are gonna be sore

prisma stump
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Yeah SwitchyTired

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Pointer an thumb was putting in the work

sacred elm
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Shouldve disassembled whole thing

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Its way easier to pull from the plate

left depot
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PepeHands didnt read

reef oar
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not if it's a flexy boy

tropic urchin
left depot
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then again you couldve seen how your lekkers where installed and just followed the same line up with your new switches

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no reading required

glossy pagoda
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checks watch 2026?

left depot
sacred elm
prisma stump
# sacred elm Shouldve disassembled whole thing

I didn’t really want to and I paid the price, some switches were easier to take out than others. The ones I usually struggled with are the ones on the corners or near the edges of the board

tropic urchin
glossy pagoda
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That's... not how that works dogekek

tropic urchin
sacred elm
left depot
left depot
sacred elm
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đŸ€Ł

left depot
trail bane
stray tiger
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I'm just now reading these lol

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I can only imagine pulling these out with fingers lol

calm pulsar
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@tawdry tree found your favorite board

tawdry tree
gritty stirrup
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oki it is a bit brighter catDespair

tulip rapids
winged whale
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really? hmm i haven’t seen this anywhere else on the net. searched on reddit before buying from them and saw positive sentiment overall. i’ll keep an eye out

tulip rapids
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wondering if i should buy wooting cable but i already got cable mods

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anyone here got the custom wooting cable?

winged whale
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I searched for more reviews of the genty but didn’t find much. What I did find didn’t mention anything like that đŸ€”

tulip rapids
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sno gives good advice smile

winged whale
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Ok! Still got the owllabs ti and the haimu silent to try. Let’s see how things work

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@glacial wind did you try the switches yourself or is there a source I should be following to get the real deal info switches?

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
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and many some other collectors (realistically the only people who bought em havo)

chilly mural
tawdry tree
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People sleeping

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or Gateron just genuinely doesn’t care if the product they sell functions or not.

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Probably the latter when considering the Jade Maxes.

chilly mural
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Lmao

winged whale
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Wait.. what? Like the top dampeners are not engaged at all? 😂

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Ok. These are going back then. Won’t even get them out of the bag

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It’s almost like these companies are slapping together any spare parts as fast as possible and putting shit out there to gain market share of this new-ish niche

marble sierra
prisma stump
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@tulip rapids @flat cobalt KBDFans just shadow dropped my package??

tulip rapids
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spend that returned money on more wooting stuff

prisma stump
tulip rapids
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xD

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calder needs a new car

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:pp

prisma stump
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I’ll put it together in a bit, making some chicken tenders and a hashbrown

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Kinda crazy how it came a day after my switches

tulip rapids
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sounds like youre going to have a good weekendSwitchyCool

prisma stump
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I am

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This week has been a great week so far

steady halo
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is it me or have someone when through what i'm feeling rn?
i sold my high end pc a couple of months ago because i was trying to lock in outside video games.
I bought myself a couple of mac stuff.
lately I am thinking about purchasing another windows pc, but i can't get myself to make a reason for purchasing windows pcpepe_cry

steady halo
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but i purchased a lot of HE keyboards (which is a gaming purpose)

tulip rapids
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outside graphics got that 6090 rtx

steady halo
steady halo
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using mac but buying wooting

steady halo
tulip rapids
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how good was the high end pc

steady halo
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and switchy

steady halo
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i was a tier 2 pro on val

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but u know asian parents, finishing school is the main thing

tulip rapids
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Darth J confused with the light side and dark side of the voice

steady halo
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ngl i miss playing video games

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but I can't let go of this lovely peace life

tulip rapids
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i only like playing during winter

steady halo
steady halo
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i'm using my mac on zowie 240hz

tulip rapids
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summer time i feel shitty to play games because its so nice outside unless its very hot outside then i stay where the ac is smile

steady halo
wind karma
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hey guys, what do long springs do compared to shorter ones?

tulip rapids
tulip rapids
steady halo
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otw to my second year

tulip rapids
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go outside bruv

steady halo
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i might just buy the 60he v2 as my endgame mac keyboard

tulip rapids
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college years should be you studying,having fun,meeting people and etc

tulip rapids
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doesnt mean you cant game but i wouldnt be too focus on it

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unless you dont enjoy going out and etc

steady halo
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like i'm kinda fomo because my uni friends are playing val

tulip rapids
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i just sold everything and focus on being outdoors

steady halo
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i felt like, my hobby is always about keyboard these days

tulip rapids
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only reason i got back into games was because of covid tbh

quick plank
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Has anyone tried modding haptic feedback into their keyboard? My idea came from wanting a tactile switch again, but no tactile HE switches. So my next best idea was to take apart some old game controllers and put their haptic engines in the foam at the bottom of the case. Then do some math to make it work the way I want it to. But I'm curious if anyone has done anything similar so I can go off their work?

steady halo
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i have been at the keyboard community since 2019?

steady halo
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either phone games & pc

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i remembered how pubgm were a thing

tulip rapids
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i miss pubg in 2018

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it was soooo good

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proximity chat was amazing

steady halo
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something feels off for me

tulip rapids
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only had good moments in it

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even the chinese hackers were hella funny

steady halo
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i was planning to purchase a 1k pc with amd spec but I won't be able to purchase the wooting 60he v2

prisma stump
steady halo
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no wooting 60he v2 = Papa Calder disappointed

steady halo
steady halo
tulip rapids
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i didnt even see that

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too many people in here are cultured 🧐

prisma stump
ivory owl
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Imagine not getting one SwitchySmug

prisma stump
ivory owl
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;()

trail bane
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Huh?

prisma stump
tulip rapids
tulip rapids
# trail bane Huh?

he has an illusion everyone wants his blanket but most people dont care

tulip rapids
prisma stump
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Keyboard weighs like 5 pounds

stray tiger
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Anyone awake?

prisma stump
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just earlier yeah

stray tiger
mental salmon
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It works in discord on mobile

stray tiger
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Turns out the video codec I was using for OBS records doesnt play in discord by default (AV1). Had to switch to h.264

steady halo
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beautiful

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especially the top left one

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what's that

stray tiger
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The middle one is a stock wooting. The upper left is a january with a venom pcb that I had to cut to make fit in the case...

steady halo
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so it will be white fr4 plate?

stray tiger
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Guess you Friday lurkers got a surprise. As they say in the Marines "Never not be there always"

stray tiger
steady halo
tulip rapids
steady halo
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some accent

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on it

tulip rapids
steady halo
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i saw somewhere

tulip rapids
steady halo
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if the pic was wrong?

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idk

tulip rapids
steady halo
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but still fr4 sucks

steady halo
tulip rapids
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i use white pc plate smile

steady halo
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cf / alu ftw

steady halo
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@tulip rapids i found 1080ti for dirt cheappepeLMAO

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$100 is still cheap right?pepelull

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wait

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$90

stray tiger
steady halo
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but no more driver updateSwitchyDead

tulip rapids
plain idol
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quick question, im swaping stabs out for swagkeys kinght v3s and I read you should remove the pads when lubing the new stabs are these those pads that are talked about?

plain idol
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should anything be placed there after removing them or can they be left bare

tulip rapids
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when swapping stabs out should you always lube the pads?

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genuinely asking because i didnt know

plain idol
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according to some video I saw they tend to become sticky if lube gets on them so its recommended they be removed

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but thats also why i was asking too just before i took them off

tulip rapids
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replace them with new pads or just remove them completely?

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or does it depend on the stabs

plain idol
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removing them completely

tulip rapids
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i see jak ty

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i never replaced stabs but im going to soon

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thanks for teaching me something lol im still new to modding

plain idol
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I also got screwins not snapins

tulip rapids
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yeah im planning on getting those for my 60he+

plain idol
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so they're installed slightly different than the ones wooting80he comes with

tulip rapids
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i thought 80he has screws in no?

plain idol
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one part is screw in but the back of them slide under pcb

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and hold behind it

cyan lark
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Happy Friday, keyboard nerds.

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I could go for trying out some Tikkens right about now. Which purple name do I have to slip a Benjamin to to make that happen?

tulip rapids
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i too would like to taste the tikken

tawdry tree
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You could check out AEBoards’ Raed HE switches or Tecsee’s Gel Pads, those are tactile (rubber dome).

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Raeds have a more linear dome and with Gel Pads you have the option to go with linear (still tactile) or tactile.

true yarrow
trail bane
stray tiger
trail bane
tropic urchin
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Imagine being late

trail bane
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Imagine being

tropic urchin
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Lock in lander

trail bane
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I’m sleeping rn

steady halo
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i want to know the reason so bad

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it would be easier for people to order custom plates, and don't need to own / purchase standoff kit from kbdfans

steady halo
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but why not put it on the pcb?

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like benom

scarlet abyss
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Guys I have a question. So pretty much I ordered my wooting 80HE today and I was wondering if y’all had any recommendations for good quality all black no marking keycaps. I think they look a little cleaner without any letters or anything on them. If you don’t know any or if this isn’t the right place to ask that that’s okay too. Tysm

steady halo
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the best black blank keycaps for the price rn

scarlet abyss
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Oh wow. Thank you so much

steady halo
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i know it looks clean without any letters

scarlet abyss
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Silly question. Will those degrade really. I have this problem with my current keyboard that they wore down within a few months so they are really oily and slippery. I think the keyboard I have mow was just cheap but was wondering if that was a problem

steady halo
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i suggest to buy fbb t52 black

scarlet abyss
scarlet abyss
steady halo
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that's the problem with most blank keycaps

steady halo
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rather than blank

scarlet abyss
steady halo
steady halo
steady halo
scarlet abyss
steady halo
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since shined keycaps on blank are easier to be spotted

scarlet abyss
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And for that first one you gave, are those preoder? Or just normal. Because I see this

scarlet abyss
uneven cradle
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if you don't want shine get some high quality double shot PBT keycaps

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PBTfans is good, just make sure it's one their double shot PBT sets

scarlet abyss
glacial wind
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Black on black is tricky to find

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Good quality ones anyway

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I went down the rabbit hole for that awhile ago and a lot of the decent ones are old sets that are sold out

tidal frigate
uneven cradle
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yeah, they want no shine though

tulip rapids
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damn i guess we hate gundam in here sadosucat

uneven cradle
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don't see any black on black or blank black double shot PBT keycaps tbh

scarlet abyss
scarlet abyss
scarlet abyss
tidal frigate
scarlet abyss
tulip rapids
steady halo
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more of a japanese pacific rim

glacial wind
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Black on black just rarely done because it’s hard

steady halo
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jed

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what is ur windows pc spec

glacial wind
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Running 5800x3d on a 4070ti

steady halo
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huhpepe_uhm

tulip rapids
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sno i seek pc advice

steady halo
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ngl i'm on my life & death decision

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f me

tulip rapids
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if youre free to discuss for a little bit

uneven cradle
glacial wind
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I want to do cpu upgrade and 500hz monitor at some point but not super high on priority as I’ve been busy

sacred elm
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I want to upgrade my 5600x, probably with 5700x3d

uneven cradle
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too busy buying Sony E mount lenses

steady halo
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do i have to skip 60he v2 and buy a pc instead

sacred elm
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too busy buying 90cm softbox

steady halo
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i have always wanted a wooting special discord rolepepe_cry

glacial wind
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Buy second hand parts and have both

steady halo
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paying uni tuition on my ownpepe_cry

glacial wind
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Maybe you’ll have to live vicariously through discord

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Shafie will post many photos of his keyboard

steady halo
sacred elm
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dont want to embarass myself right now

steady halo
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or should i just buy 60he v2 and save up for pc later since pc parts in my country are on high price rn

tropic urchin
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BCR đŸ”„

glacial wind
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Sony is supposedly coming up with a new macro 100mm lens

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So that would give nice photos for shafie

steady halo
uneven cradle
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i wouldn't want to get FOMO so time for my 3rd 60% HE keyboard

steady halo
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go big or go home

tropic urchin
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shf needs his new sony camera to take pictures of his upcoming new IEM

tropic urchin
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@glacial wind its brilliant innit

steady halo
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ngl i missed out on 80he special role (founders campaign) pepe_cry

sacred elm
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There will be 60he v2 role so

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lock in

steady halo
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ngl, in my country rn 1k pc only gives me i5 14400f and rtx 4060 man

steady halo
steady halo
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high price rn for pc parts

chilly mural
steady halo
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i was planning for 3080 or 4070

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it's doable last year

chilly mural
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Yeah, do ryzen, even if you have to spend less on gpu

steady halo
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this year market price 📈

chilly mural
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Used ryzen am5

steady halo
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after 60he v2

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I don't want Papa Calder and Switchy to become disappointed of me

tulip rapids
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calder needs a new ferrari

steady halo
steady halo
steady halo
steady halo
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it has faster acceleration than ferrari or lambo

tulip rapids
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random question what happened to josh? Is he okay?

steady halo
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imagine i choke and purchase a benom instead SwitchyDead

tropic urchin
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joshibasan is still here

steady halo
chilly mural
steady halo
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@trail bane would buy it at any cost

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even for a ferrari

static tendon
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I see that the Wooting 60HE V2 has 8k polling rate but the module doesn't currently offer this option. Any idea when the module will also get pre-orders available for purchase?

stray tiger
static tendon
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@stray tiger it's been a while since we've chatted. What is your current Wooting 60HE build like? Maybe posted in wootstations or something?

stray tiger
static tendon
stray tiger
static tendon
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Looks amazing, I love the green colorway

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For conversions do you typically just do like a custom cut out for the USB C and swap out the mounting mechanism to fit a HE board inside?

stray tiger
static tendon
stray tiger
static tendon
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Ah makes sense, since flex would likely cause some accidental key presses or something. Haha you must build a lot of keyboards if running out of PCBs!

stray tiger
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I'm slowly finishing up the builds and will likely cut the collection in half and only keep stuff that really calls to me.

tulip rapids
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what switches are your favourite father? (beside enjoying the tikkens, mb if i already asked this question)

stray tiger
tulip rapids
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thanks for letting me know pepesalute

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i want to test out the ttc poms

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they sound good hand lube

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i wonder if theres a huge difference between them and owlabs

sacred elm
tulip rapids
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đŸ™‚â€â†•ïž

static tendon
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What's the full name? The TI switch

sacred elm
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Owlab Ti

tulip rapids
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they look like this

static tendon
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Tyyy

sacred elm
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Duhuk Herz, same thing, different color

tulip rapids
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the duhhuk herz

wispy vine
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what would you guys consider to be the best gateron switches (least clacky)? I got new board that that isn't compatible with other switches* but that's a lie and gaterons work. I'm also tempted to pick up some UR ice to see if they will work, if not toss those in my 60he.

steady halo
stray tiger
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You get that nice V down the middle

steady halo
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true

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but i can't get myself to love the small 1u keys..
like i could if i use the board for a couple of months

steady halo
stray tiger
steady halo
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i might skip 60he v2 for a brand new venom 7u tho..
since my main goal is a custom keyboard maybe with db and such

steady halo
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since i saw a couple of dead pcb's on their server

tulip rapids
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no warranty?!?!?

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bruh

steady halo
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no warranty

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for benom

stray tiger
tulip rapids
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how expensive is it?

steady halo
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  • 15 for typeplus
stray tiger
steady halo
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and 6 for foam set

tulip rapids
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darthJ just buy 60v2

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unless youre hell bent on benom

steady halo
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but thank God i tested it before i build it

sacred elm
stray tiger
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I had a bad PCB that I needed to return and it was $44 from the US and an estimated return time or 4 weeks

tulip rapids
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tikken look and sound good smile

steady halo
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the shipping paid by Geon's team since i'm in Asia

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so it wasn't a huge deal for me..
but the no warranty part is a huge thing..

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if i build a venom, total build could cost around 250?

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or 280?

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so i might just purchase a prebuilt 60he V2 at that point

steady halo
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i can easily swap plates without thinking about the shipping from kbdfans for a single standoff kit

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i hope 60he v2 price point is <250

tulip rapids
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its gonne be more expensive

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since the coating on the cases changed

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but hopefully the price increase isnt horrible

steady halo
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at least make a plastic version

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please God

tulip rapids
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lol

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you can always buy the module and get a different case with it

tulip rapids
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that wooting knob going to be lit though

steady halo
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that big knob

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makes me want to use 80he

static tendon
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The 60HE is getting a knob?

steady halo
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and 60he will be able to use the small knob (1u)

steady halo
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that means it won't be a small gap price difference with 60he v1SwitchyDead

static tendon
tulip rapids
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let me put you on

chilly mural
tulip rapids
static tendon
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Ohhh

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I'll watch the entire video, ty

chilly mural
steady halo
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making things backward compatibility as well

tulip rapids
#

for me wooting is end game

steady halo
#

not like atk who left their keeb without any updates after 8 months

tulip rapids
#

i dont feel the need to get another kb with how much customization it has and good software

tulip rapids
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unless its another wooting dogekek

steady halo
#

nah, i think 60he v2 is good already for 5 years

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i will type very fast

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on VScode as for my assignments

tulip rapids
#

theres so many features on wooting i havent used yet either SwitchyDead

chilly mural
static tendon
#

Woah just watched the video, the knob concept is insanely cool. I'll definitely pick one up

thorn zealot
#

Pls

chilly mural
static tendon
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According to the video you can

chilly mural
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Just need to buy 70 knob

thorn zealot
chilly mural
#

Going to be expensive but niche thing are expensive

turbid seal
#

do most of you guys use the stock case or other ones? i honestly bought the tofu redux with my wooting had haven’t even touched the stock case

knotty iron
tulip rapids
tropic urchin
sacred elm
thorn zealot
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😭

tropic urchin
#

Mr phish what IEM should shf get

fallen pecan
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monarch mk3 or u12t

thorn zealot
tropic urchin
#

I got my MK3 tuning with Xenns top pros đŸ«Š

sacred elm
plain idol
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Swaped stabs with swagkeys Knight V3s and TTC king Pom RGBs đŸ€Œ

plain idol
#

kom

chilly mural
trail bane
noble mason
#

has anybody tried the ttc elf kings

noble mason
glacial wind
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they haven't said anything beyond us knowing the top housing is likely pc

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rest of specs seem fairly standard though, 3.4mm travel long but not that long spring

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basically think of them like ttcs version of a jade pro type switch

dapper obsidian
#

@glacial wind I am back after I handlubed my GEONs.

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Gotta say: it made a difference for sure.

reef oar
sharp comet
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anyone tried without foam?

flat cobalt
#

We need a touch bar on the 80he

distant zodiac
#

hey, not sure if this is the right place to ask this but -
I'm looking to buy new stabs for my wooting 80he (jade pro switches)
should i get the screw-ins and 1.66mm regular to make it work?

languid kestrel
#

for jades in particular, long pole would be ideal -- but then it's unoptimal for any full-travel switches

distant zodiac
#

I see
Will the regular also work fine?

languid kestrel
#

most likely

distant zodiac
#

👍 ty

tropic urchin
little glen
#

could also get geon stem spacers

distant zodiac
#

I just ordered the lp version since I don’t plan on swapping the switches, i will consider the spacers if I notice any problems

reef oar
tawdry tree
#

@calm pulsar HE FUCKING DID EVERYTHING I SUGGESTED HOLY FUCK WHAT A FUCKING GOAT

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It’ll have RGB too

tropic urchin
#

😳

tawdry tree
#

Surelyyy

chilly mural
#

Like damn, look at this

tawdry tree
#

Split backspace, split space all with LEDs

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ANSI and ISO single PCB

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Stepped caps

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7u

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I fell off my fucking chair

chilly mural
tawdry tree
#

The only correct split*

chilly mural
#

Looks like this will be a product for you then

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I just hope they support it long enough and add knob support

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Mmm, late 2025 gonna have a nice Pcb releases. 60hev2, and rakka

languid kestrel
#

so wait, rakka figured out how to support every single configuration on one PCB where wooting didn't?

tawdry tree
#

Well

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I don’t know if Woot considered creative solutions

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but I’d think for the SKUs alone it’d be worth it. But whatever

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I tried.

tawdry tree
chilly mural
tawdry tree
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It is just kinda fucked if someone buys a split space board and end up not liking it, then having to pay the return shipping cost. It’s a certainty that the person would’ve rather removed a switch pin than go through all of that.

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That’s why it just doesn’t make sense to me.

safe stag
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Did someone made a tier list with he switches released ?

tawdry tree
languid kestrel
#

who don't even have tools for that tbh

tawdry tree
#

I mean HM did it with a similar custom base, though that way mostly Asia only.

languid kestrel
#

who?

tawdry tree
languid kestrel
tawdry tree
tawdry tree
languid kestrel
chilly mural
tawdry tree
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and got popular because of it. Same with Rakka, thought Rakka was on another level with layout support (and a different customer base, obviously).

languid kestrel
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regardless, I think the 60v2 is gonna be popular and I still don't think anyone but you and MB give a shit about which way the space is split

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time will tell at any rate

tawdry tree
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It’s just inconsistent from Woot

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they care about ergonomics

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but not for the split space apparently

languid kestrel
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and there's no indication one is more ergonomic than the other

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except your opinion on it

tawdry tree
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Ragebaiter

languid kestrel
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it's just true though

tawdry tree
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It isn’t an opinion, it is a fact

languid kestrel
#

what objective quality makes it unergonomic?

tawdry tree
#

Overhang.

polar girder
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I use my right thumb to actually hit space while typing so I have no interest in the Wooting implementation of split space.

chilly mural
#

Man, this argument again

languid kestrel
#

why?

tawdry tree
#

As I said 20 million times already.

polar girder
tawdry tree
#

Actual ragebait

safe stag
tawdry tree
#

You saw the thread

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(I think)

chilly mural
#

At the very least, hopefully kbdfans make a mold to make the split space woot to single space.

languid kestrel
#

yes but I don't understand what about arbitrary symmetry makes it more ergonomic

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
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Human hands are mirrors of one another.

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Lay them on your board.

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And you see.

safe stag
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Accidental release of long spacebar variant of the 60he

languid kestrel
#

which means they can extremely easily also move the thumb half a slot and it's not going to be a big deal after 15 minutes of getting used to

chilly mural
languid kestrel
#

a keyboard is mega unergonomic to begin with and we are all still alive

tawdry tree
languid kestrel
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yes, yes you could

tawdry tree
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It’s about a factual inefficacy so to say.

tawdry tree
#

Quite a lot of friction probably.

languid kestrel
#

then why do we have staggered rows? and not staggered columns? why is every keyboard not an ergotouch or some other ergo design

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because it doesn't matter for anyone but you, basically

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we're all fine

languid kestrel
#

if it mattered that wouldn't hold water

tawdry tree
#

What did I say? That it is an inconsistency.

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That’s also a fact.

languid kestrel
#

for some reason we are typing on qwerty (unergonomic) on this typewriter-derived physical layout (unergonomic)

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but you make the case that half a slot on one key is impossible to use for anyone

tawdry tree
safe stag
#

For some reason most of the people here are in ANSI instead of iso, and miss the big Enter key that is just better SwitchySippy

languid kestrel
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it doesn't matter, that's what I'm saying

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I'm not arguing that one is better, I'm arguing that it literally makes no difference for anyone but you

tawdry tree
chilly mural
tawdry tree
#

Posted by Freewheeler on Twitter.

languid kestrel
#

don't you mean X

tawdry tree
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Could be from a stream, I’m not sure.

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Don’t think Rakka streams tho.

glacial wind
#

Oh this topic again. Whelp that’s enough discord for today SwitchyUwU

tawdry tree
#

Just ragebait.

glacial wind
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I don’t know if it’s rage bait, but it is the same argument that will never ever be seen eye to eye on because you have a fundamental belief that is different from others so not much to really discuss

tawdry tree
#

You were part of the stream yesterday, Woot values typing ergonomics, just not about split space.

glacial wind
#

your entire definition of inconsistencies and facts just goes down to things that other people completely disagree with and no amount of talking will change your mind

glacial wind
#

It was even Calder trying to explain yesterday that a sku existing in China from multiple brands isn’t actually the same as popularity

tawdry tree
#

If your argument is anything other than ergonomics, then you have a fair argument.

tawdry tree
marble sierra
tawdry tree
#

Valuing typing ergonomics but not when it regards split space is inconsistent, as I said. I don’t know an argument against this.

tidal frigate
#

Ergonomics are fake in pc setups

glacial wind
#

No one is arguing against the inconsistency

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In fact the inconsistency doesn’t even matter

tawdry tree
#

Good, that was the point I was making.

glacial wind
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No one even cares about it being inconsistent from an ergonomic pov besides a very very small subset of people like yourself

tawdry tree
glacial wind
#

and that is exactly why it’s just completely not productive to have this discussion because your values and what you value the most don’t align with what most people discussing the topic have

tawdry tree
glacial wind
#

There’s never going to be any agreement made there if people have completely different values than you

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You can’t force your values on wooting and others

tawdry tree
#

You can point out factual inconsistencies in the hopes that people care about that.

glacial wind
#

No matter how much you believe those values are more correct or superior or factually logically - it’s not going to happen

tawdry tree
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And the fact that it is unergonomic (which will affect people, 90% of people (we don’t know and I agree with that).

tawdry tree
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Even if it isn’t anyone here. I would’ve still pointed it out.

glacial wind
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Well good luck with that, I don’t see your strategy working very well on people outside of your own very particular niche

tawdry tree
#

And also because it adds to the amount of people potentially bot liking the split because of that.

chilly mural
#

5 moar months! At the latest

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
chilly mural
tawdry tree
#

Truee

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We haven’t seen the performance yet

glacial wind
#

80he got traction because it was about something that a lot of people aligned with you about

tawdry tree
#

or the price 👀

tawdry tree
chilly mural
glacial wind
#

This whole split space thing you are never ever getting that kind of traction or anything near that

tawdry tree
#

My beloved.

trail bane
tawdry tree
glacial wind
#

Obviously isn’t the word I’d use

tawdry tree
#

The 80HE was aesthetic, everyone could see.

glacial wind
#

I think it just genuinely does not bother other people and you don’t realize just how little this topic matters to average person

tawdry tree
#

Split space being unergonomic is only something you’d know or see if you understand ergonomics.

glacial wind
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I understand why you particularly care about it, but I think there’s a big gap in you not realizing how other people think and care about things

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
glacial wind
#

yeah that’s not an expectation I would ever have of the average keyboard user

tawdry tree
glacial wind
#

That’s the missing link right there

polar girder
#

Most Wooting customers aren’t even aware that split space is an option. Let alone that there are options or preferences within the layout

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They’ll just be exciting to get another button to slap with their thumb

glacial wind
#

See bigsley gets it

tawdry tree
glacial wind
#

that’s a big leap in estimation

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I think most don’t care because they genuinely do not spend or care about spending time on ergonomics

tawdry tree
#

It’ll be interesting to see if people like the big space on the left though.

tidal frigate
tawdry tree
#

Anomounys is me.

tidal frigate
#

Oh

tawdry tree
polar girder
#

But then they’ll use the horrible Wooting implementation and swear off split space bar for life. Never knowing what they’re missing out on. Right, @tawdry tree ? right??

tidal frigate
#

I thought you are talkin about guy pushing weird iso layout

tawdry tree
polar girder
tawdry tree
#

Bigs does not know about the layout legend himself.

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Mana the Banker

polar girder
#

I was thinking of the Geon 67% thing or whatever

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Ah yeah no clue mb

tawdry tree
#

After saying no.

sacred elm
#

💔

chilly mural
# sacred elm

This is ALMOST a shit post if not for the fact that he seems adamant for it

glacial wind
#

I always find it interesting when people suggest something that requires all customers go through university of relearning how they use keyboards and masters degree in layout usage before they can enjoy it fully

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quite the barrier of entry to sell the kid playing Fortnite

polar girder
#

That’s funny

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Nice one

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
polar girder
tawdry tree
#

So the 1U Fn, Control, Alt.

tawdry tree
polar girder
chilly mural
#

mmm, naisu

sacred elm
polar girder
#

Bro doing everything just to not go ortho-linear

tawdry tree
#

That is what I said

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Holy

languid kestrel
#

aligner, I'll give you one thing; the rakka PCB to me looks a lot more desirable than the wooter v2, just because more options are better than one that might not suit people, me included

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split backspace for one is good since that key is otherwise pointless for me particularly

tropic urchin
# sacred elm

Ermmm Wooting should take the initiative and create the first keyboard people have been ASKING for.. Glove 60HE đŸ€“đŸ‘

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It’s ERGO and gets the people going!

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!!!

glacial wind
#

Been awhile since I checked in on how they’re going with that whole thing

languid kestrel
#

I have literally no clue dogenek learned about its existence from the aligner post

glacial wind
#

ah. Yeah last they talked about it in their blog it was atlus will be their only under glow no per key rgb board with many many layouts

tawdry tree
tropic urchin
glacial wind
marble sierra
tawdry tree
tawdry tree
#

I don’t know how the fuck they managed that.

glacial wind
#

Oh that’s interesting, where is the post on that?

marble sierra
tawdry tree
#

Probably spent 6 months on routing traces lmfao

tawdry tree
tropic urchin
glacial wind
#

Oh so not fully public yet

tawdry tree
glacial wind
#

Yeah I was meaning did they have a proper post about it yet

tawdry tree
#

Not yet.

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At least not on their news page.

tropic urchin
#

ggs

sweet oak
#

new layout release

#

MGO

glacial wind
#

I hope rakka doesn’t spread themselves too thin

tawdry tree
glacial wind
#

They do real well making very specialized stuff for certain demographics, I hope it doesn’t become sidetabled or slow to finish up because they get busy with collabs and other boards

tawdry tree
trail bane
glacial wind
#

? Woot

tawdry tree
#

Anytime a new keyboard is in the works, software development/updates halt (almost a complete halt but not quite).

#

And the OW collab a bit cooked maybe

glacial wind
#

Definitely not

tawdry tree
#

I’m sure they don’t ghost anyone though.

marble sierra
tidal frigate
#

I got simon in a trap with calder xdd

glacial wind
#

I don’t know what what I said has to do with wooting lol

tulip rapids
#

😭

tawdry tree
tidal frigate
glacial wind
#

I was just talking about how in the past rakka had that period where geon had to break off and do his own thing and updates went super mia for awhile

tawdry tree
#

Their trackrecord for their own stuff is good.

glacial wind
#

And people were speculating it was just they were super busy with all the boards they were doing at the time

tawdry tree
#

I’m happy this isn’t a collab lmao

tulip rapids
tidal frigate
tulip rapids
#

maybe after the 60v2 is done next keyboard project will probably be about the 2he or 80he

tidal frigate
#

Simon will have to do it

tawdry tree
tulip rapids
tawdry tree
#

I need the knobs and titon realest asap

tulip rapids
#

im just speculating no real confirmation

tidal frigate
#

So from what mark said 2nd batch is not raffled

#

Sooo

sacred elm
#

He said that about JIS 80HE

tawdry tree
tulip rapids
tidal frigate
tidal frigate
tulip rapids
#

mb i didnt hear the jis part

calm pulsar
tulip rapids
#

when watching the stream

glacial wind
#

I do still need to get an owlab case for sound stuff

calm pulsar
#

I need it

tulip rapids
#

also need my morning coffee

tawdry tree
tulip rapids
#

i got half of a braincell right meow

tawdry tree
tawdry tree
calm pulsar
#

if I need to wait its fine, I've seen a lot of rakka 80s on aliexpress so its wtv

tidal frigate
#

Wonder how it would be spreaded out

#

Because americans will have acess to ow60

chilly mural
tawdry tree
#

Rakka80 had some firmware issues in the beginning.

glacial wind
tulip rapids
#

i wonder what their plans are to spread more influence in japan

chilly mural
tulip rapids
#

whos rakka

glacial wind
#

Were there more major issues than the early edge stuff?

zealous holly
#

Hey all, is it worth me taping the back of the 60he?

tawdry tree
#

Not with their own stuff

zealous holly
#

Got a new case coming soon so may as well do it at the same time if it’s a positive?

tawdry tree
#

Well the mounting pin holes being tight, but that’s not that big of an issue.

sacred elm
tropic urchin
#

@tulip rapids lock in

zealous holly
#

I’ll give it a go

sacred elm
#

Tape mod is good for some switches

sacred elm
#

Bad for the others

zealous holly