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oh what if it just has electronics inside and an electromagnet
we;d have to charge t
how does it get power
oower
Magic oower
it has a solar panel
and it collects power from the LED
holyyy
solar from the rgb lights
No from your typing
wow
Self winding keyboard
kinetic motor inside when you push it down
holy shit we figuredd it out
hire us wooting
wootās LEDs are brighter than a thousand suns brother
Micro fission then
honestly i dont think that it's too far fetchd
implies light and heavy
good catch
epic
Could also mean small and large
No it just means its a medium you can use to dissolve other substances
social medium
10pack, 70pack, 90pack?
They 100% will
referring to 70 as medium is trash, they wouldnāt!
surelyyyy
so then what is medium? š
or 70, 90, 110 packs? 60, 80, 2HE
They will call 60g medium
2HE needs no love
Heavy just for Mansen
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Petition to remotely brick every 2he and discontinue it
To make full size people see the light of tkl
If itās sideways I guess?
not the ones woot use though
Spreadsheet users will hate you
also no
I had little respect for spreadsheet pencil pushers anyway
rip
and by offsetting the magnet?
1x1
itās why itās so crazy
What about database data chads
or maybe 12 i cant count
I never want to see a database again
Iām storing all my shit in jsons
possible to a point
although im not sure how you would know direction with that
Big MongoDB energy
but itād just seem like a weaker magnetic field to the sensor
exactly
thatās the thing
direction is easy if it just moves the magnet further and closer to the sensor
but thatās not possible if itās continuous
not easily possible*
I was thinking of breaking out the scope and seeing how the sensors behave when I spin mags around it and such
you can try
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Donāt have one of the sensors separate which would make it way more risky and a pain
it's sponsored by drunkdeer
a75
All this guy does is call wooting mid
oh mb it was posted earlier
Aligner you know the part?
Get another gimmick
ah shit i hoped you guys took longer to figure this out
when using switches with a horizontal magnet orientation, analog monitor literally reads nothing at all
we actually found the knobs inside the pyramids
the sayo doesnāt either
I did a full technical write up but the bot censored my message
itās as if the magnet isnāt even there
It has a bunch of holes now
I believe this wholeheartedly
eh, maybe
do we have a price for the knobd
we might also steal the battery tech pyramids used
will ya patent the knob tech?
as if i, a lowly backend dev, would know
but you the one and only Tony
im not LC Sign Tony sadly
tbh yea
what do you do at wooting, tony?
time for a career change
i.... i just posted it
holy blind
ts one?
ts one?
this the one?
maybe we should look back at what that one dude made like 1-2years ago
yes
the 3d animations
you mean andrew? who works for us now?
the screwmabob?
and yes it was a screw design
interesting
whats the dc name
that's one of the ways i thought it would happen
canāt find it
untamed
untamedx2
Thanks for looking, also canāt find my scope š
guess youll have to wait and see... or go to computex and steal a prototype
k so it's not
I didnāt know that was an option
although the stealing option is prob not viable as you will most likely land in jail
actually... can you go to jail for stealing smaller items like that?
Letās find out!
with revolutionary tech like that, for sure
im glad you volunteer to do the testing
knob 2he
Yeah this is what I was saying
na you can make screw designs continuous rotation
It could go forever
found it
Rotation is a wave
Rotation is a crunch
just dematerialize it at the bottom and materialize it at the top
done
rotates forever
But Tony can we make it crunch
yes
Itās all connected
we usually do it with cheeto dust
some mtn dew for the right stickyness
Wouldnāt that make it mush rather than crunch
nono see the mtn dew makes it decelerate nicer and acceleration is damped as well. for the crunch you sprinkle cheeto dust on the dried mtn dew
best of both worlds
and if you cover the caps in cheeto dust as well you have a nice orange board
follow Tony Tech Tips on TIkTok for more
(dont idk if that even is a thing)
My mind is blowned 
Sander approved
i learned from the best didnt i

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You remember effects they have right?
yes
tony is not afraid
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this is what happens
Which flavour is your favorite? Apple or Orange
Scope found!
mixing both
You like chaos dont u
thats why i come to discord. to yap about stuff i got 0 knowledge about
I donāt think it can damage the board in any way as people even short the sensors to test board latency
donāt know how youād hold that and the magnet at the same time tho
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even better if yall start believing me just cause im staff
Yeah, that's probably gonna be the impossible challenge
well, jakub is here now so weāll see about that 
Why was I cursed with only these two meager arms
how can i not believe someone with BigBrain in their name
see a lot of people seem to miss the AFK part
What about lekker tikken how they taste
i cant read that much
that would explain a lot of happenings on the net if people just cant read that much
BigBrain Always Fucking Knows?
Oh right I also have a multi helping hand thing, now where's that...
whats the meme audio with nobody knows or whatever
thats what that reminded me of
sounds like a keyboard torture setup bro š
Nobody's Gonna Know... They're Gonna Know! by Chris Gleason @cgleason22
this one
that sounds like an image AI prompt
Reminds me of Doc Oc
ah its alien pr0n
LMFAO
itās literally perfect
Night Tony, thanks for the magic
Tony i think spazza ate too much lekker switches and he posts random stuff
Unfortunately my compatriots pulled me into some OW so I'll try soon while the arms... while they watch.
ok last message before i actually turn off discord: spazza best and we will soon collect royalty from keyboard music posted on spotify made by dj spazza
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Trying to figure out how they're gonna do the knob :p
Dunno if I'll be able to or not but fun to play around either way
Oh and this seems like the sensor. Couldnāt find any info on it
It's pretty simple
It's probably a normal magnet but the poles are placed sideways
So when you spin the knob, you spin the magnet too, which changes the magnetic field relative to the sensor when chances the voltage measured to ground.
This is the basis of how 99% of magnetic encoders work.
And it's not hard to implement here
What about the press though?
The two motions have very distinct changes in magnetic fields.
It's probably easy to tell them apart
Sounds reasonable to me, just kinda wish I could do it myself to see
You can also leverage the voltage measurement of nearby Hall effect sensors but it's not really feasible.
Not sure if I can really pull it off though
I have my Rigol and some small magnets I can experiment with.
but I don't think they are small enough for something like this
Smallest I have is 6mm magnets
I could crack open a cheap switch for the magnet but I think I need to solder leads so I can measure while I mess with the magnet
If you do Iāll be curious what you see
Yeah
Gateron released new case for GT60 Pro
Time to spring swap tee hees š„
Tee hee 
42.5g pingless feels crazy on them, makes for a nice Benom build on Tuesday 
this case is old old
Oh
on taobao you can customize the bottom plate for 30 yuan extra
I thought it was new
OH SO WE REMAKING TOFU
NAICE
ok first of all
the feet
;-;
bruh
why
just why


the non-x came out March 2024
you can put whatever you want on the bottom plate which is nice
They released a new tray mount case?
i want gundam
Theyre basically calling ttc magnets shit with this one
LOL
is it as good as ttc though??
new mold?
No clue, i just found the pettiness very amusing, i guess ttc and gateron arent the best of friends 
gateron is losing sales ofc they are salty
actually have they made any he switches after that jade series?
Theyāve made many that use the jade pro mold with minor changes to the top housing
If they're, Iimoshi and Jabber would've posted the switch here
So just mostly recolor and minor changes?
Yeah supposedly some of the new top housings are a tad tighter thatās about it
the sakura and the green drags rite?
Yeah
Thereās whatever this new voted on switch will be too
But they already ignored the voting results once
not being the default option for wooting prebuilts probably hurt a lot
They did a poll then chose an option that didnāt win lol
Gateron too hungry for money
Now ttc takes its place because at least their switches good
Raw/ti he and eventually tikken going to be the new default.
idk why jades og are still on the wooting site lmao
So like, Gateron is at a lost unless they're somehow the one that produces tikken
Goated 
Sad
Semblance of choice
its like getting a report on what will sell the best
then selling one of the other options
they are competitors yes
Gave them a try, sorta found out they're like the obsidian Pro and yeah never tried the obsidian pro but I have the normal reds and they're quiet similar
I like the obsidian air pros and these skates on my sp004, played val comp and multiple DM's and performed pretty well. Was still in control of my mouse movement and what not esp despite how light and small the mouse is compared to my Atlantis og v2
Try cyclones
specs for the ttc sun gods
ttc elf king specs
what do you guys think of the holy60 case ?
unique look but not for me
may i know why ?
I donāt like it either. A lot of people do but people are allowed to dislike things with no reason. Just not for me, doesnāt fit my style/ aesthetic
yeah totally understand
but like you dislike it for its design or ?
just curious
Yeah for how it looks
ahh
Very unique just not for me
oh
Nah
This is my setup
I game in brighter environments but this looks better for picture so
don't be ashamed. You spent all your money on peripherals and ran out of money for lights and electricity - we don't judge
Real real
Iām def not living in my momās house
Because we do the same
Guys should I buy my broke friend a gpx
monitor runs on vibes, no need for electricity
I gave him a pulsefire haste and a Logitech lightspeed x 60bosrd but heās poor
480hz oled š
Mid tho lmao
Itās a bit faster then my 360
he needs to suffer, it will build character
then he'll grow up and become super successful remembering his scuffed gaming setup
btw, my first time using usps, i am so grateful for all other couriers now
When I was in 6th grade
His parents bought him a laptop bro
I tried getting him to wait for a good prebuilt deal or smth and chip in some money so he can play actual games š„
He has rich parents but spent all his money on food and clothes š„
sounds like a smart guy, clothes and food are important
actually gym now too since kids are learning about working out earlier it seems
clothes, food and gym
and sony lenses
where alcohol
He spends his money trying to buy designer clothes
And hair products
And
Idk if I should get him a better setup
Or not
you don't
that's his choice, spending your own money to get him a setup would be silly
he in the real world
Weāre 14
that's even more that you shouldn't
i have to agree lmao
because you're 14
Idk man heās ass at valorant and I want to train him so I can 3 stack
use the money for urself
Imma just invest then
for real
I have like 2k saved up
all in on trump coin
nah fartcoin is the one
wootcoin
Nah bro (nword)dolph the new meta
š„š„
put 1k in berkshire pls
Idk wtf that is
honestly if you have $2k at 14 years old I'm going to assume you probably never have to worry about money
can u even buy stocks at that age
its the stock i invested in as soon as i was legally able to invest
No I just spend my time flipping shit
On Facebook
the earlier the better for investing
I live close to a uni so when itās moving time I go buy shit and sell when semester starts
But shit as in like when they move
I buy it for low prices
drakon do be right, you start those gains early
Imma look into it tmr
although honestly if I go back to 14 with $2k I probably just spend it all on learning useful skills so when I go to uni/graduate I have a leg up already
Itās 1:30am and I have class at like 6
Valorant coaching š„š„
i am just lucky i am in a no capital gains tax area
so i invested early without worry
Nah for my capstone project Iām just gonna do āhitting radiant in valorantā

Hear me out
i wonder if sme actually did that
Developing leadership
drakon in singapore though, he has to do that so when he meets a girl he likes they can apply for public housing asap
Learning communication skills
gotta have the fund ready
Learning precise micro movements
Meeting a girl š¤®š¤®
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i think none of those will be learnt, but i actually don't think chasing a goal to be really good at something early on is necessarily bad
teaches you a lot about discipline, how to learn etc
No valorant is a game of babysitting
what it means to fail and figure out what's next etc
Babysitting egotistical instalock duelists whoās ego gets hurt and then they throw the game
So you gotta play therapist
yeah but you're 14
14 must seem insanely young to you guys lmao
it's just cause we know what happens between 14 and mid 20s
Alcoholš„š„
nah basically think of it like this. How would you react to a 7 year old saying what you're saying right now
because in 5 years that's how you'll look at a 14 year old saying the same thing
Facts
i actually have not drank alcohol
there's just so much big stuff that will happen now until your mid 20s where it's just life changes a lot
alcohol bad
I tried it once (stuck my chopstick into beer and sucked it)
just chill and have fun
It tastes like carbonated water with more flavor
Fr, 13 HS, 14 Covid, 15 Rhythm game, 16 Suffering, 17 AI
Wine is ass tho
yeah you be a kid, just chase silly dreams, have fun it's okay
you don't have to grow up so fast
I went through Covid when I was like 10 or smth lmao
Minecraft grind š„š„
but invest early
I was in gr4 iirc
Nah I gotta lock in for school
Since grades actually matter next year
just dip ur toes into financial literacy
cos god knows ur school aint teaching that
Iām taking chem 11 and French 11 next year wish me luck (im cooked)
yeah that's not a bad idea honestly. You don't have to invest a ton, but just learning basic sp500 investing even if it doesn't make you much will be helpful when you're older - but at 14 honestly grades come first lol
maybe worry about that more when you're closer to uni
Alr Iāll dump all my money into pc stuff
Oled second monitor š„š„š„

I gotta buy a new desk tho
yea
90āx26ā on two alex drawers
your setup is already like 10x better than you need lol
For like 250$ on Facebook
Itās my hobby
Other people go to the gym and by productive
I buy new desk
I mean I cook too
Sometimes
No bro I need a 6090 to run PowerPoint
4060ti 16gb, 7600x, and 120hz+ monitor is all you need
i can't help but picture the 14 year olds watching grindset videos when i hear all this
I watch david goggins
5080 7800x3d 64gb 480hz oledš„
ehh, it's fine
Itās fineeee
I only need 120hz at most
Should I buy a ulx
me when one of my 7 internship project is to write a book about wealth creation to a 70yo millionare with 3 listed companies
4080 super + 9800x3d and 360hz moniter soon to be a 500hz OLED is š„
Thats p e z
I wish I waited on my cpu thereās a deal on 9800x3d for what I bought my 7800x3d for šš
š u will pick up a few things u want to do to build wealth
Donāt need it tho I get 600 fps in val
biggest thing is honestly just increase base income, besides the investing stuff
At 1440p
I cant leak a few things about me, but i can say writing a book is p nice esp for a project
yea it is actually
people talk so much about investing sometimes they forget the part about if you just earn 50k more you have so much more room to invest in things
Writing book is what I did when I was 14-16
other than the fact that i have no time
cos of the other 6 projects
pls help me
I'll see what i can do then
I took it like 15 minutes ago
lmao nah its all projects dw abt it
at 14 though go be a kid and enjoy it. You will never have this level of freedom ever again
^That is true
Alr thx ill skip school tmr
oh u wanna come to the charity dinner i am doing?
as one of the projects
@paper bloom
Ok nah but I want to skip school one day with all my friends and just go have fun
Canon event fr
Yesh, enjoy being 14. When I was 14 I enjoy playing TF2 with my buddies.
I played tf2
its 50 bucks entry fee tho
And a certified butterjnifer
It's the best game I play when when IDK wtf is credit card.

I think I dropped 200$ on Val
If i cld bro
Youd see a surprise of who i am
Itās ok I bought my brother mx master 3s that makes me a good person
lmao, same time I only spent $100 on my pheripheral, playing on 60hz monitor. I think we have a vastly different life.
LMAO
yeah comparing this to most peoples childhoods is very different lol
I gave my brother my ssd and monitor as well
Since ssd was spare and monitor was my old 144hz
Heās colorblind itās ok he canāt see the difference between va and oled
I asked he said he couldnāt tell the dofference
60hz is all you need - my 15 yo self.
@glacial windsay what moniter did you run
Might give him my 5080 and grab his 9070xt since I wanna play rivals
Or currently running
And the new nvidia drivers broke rivals
just deinstall and get older drives
It wont brick
i actually had a good monitor at the time. A 19" or similar big crt mitsubishi diamond monitor - but my parents said i could either pick that or a decent gpu and i picked the monitor
O what about now
well now i'm an adult so i buy whatever i want lol
I meant what is your current moniter
I remember running alienware overpriced shit
crt is soo goated for rhythm game, at least Oled comes and replaces it.
i'm on a 180hz 27" lg for now. Waiting for oled to stabilize then i'll swap over
maybe once the 500hz oleds come out i'll look at them if their font display is decent
honestly i don't really upgrade my computer gear unless there's a reason for it these days
i still have yet to buy my first custom pc
well it's just that it's pointless if I upgrade something when I just play valorant or whatever
my internships is killing me
If youre on a budget get a 9070XT
Thats p true
yea i probably will
just need to find a time
why not get the 540hz oled
im rn fighting like plat 3's and higher lobbies
9070xt or 5070ti
As a gold 2
is what ill probably ask for
If u ask me, 9070XT isnt a budget breaker. but if you want a bit of a performance get the TI
But all in all good GPU's
Dislocated left shoulder
torn 2 ligaments
in basic
I am OOC

Yeah but ocd bugs me knowing Iām not on latest drivers
im now in MC until 30th and see how
And probably lacking performance
yea im cooked
@ionic breach You wont
So long as u declare everything
You wan shiok right
Chiong below PES C
how did you even dislocate your shoulder in basic
what happened?
Swimming test breast stroke
Anyone ever broken a bone
I did a too wide variant and too strong
NAHHH
oh yea i remember that
as a long distance breaststroker thatās crazy
didnt know it was that serious
that's got to be a first for the instructor
get well soon
How do you dislocate a shoulder doing br
Over degree and water current
Self created will result in a labrum tear
if ur over a certain joint threshold
Strong enough to disclose shoulder? Damn
Worst injury Iāve had while swimming was like
Yknow whats funny?
I didnt scream And at the 25m pool, i walked up to them and said yo get me out
My knee was REALLY swlllen after years of getting out of the pool and putting my entire body on that legs knee
They were panicking and i just gave them my 1 hand and pulled me up
Post dislocation for the first 4 to a week i was in so much
I didnt even take painkillers and manned it out
Its a mistake dont ever do that
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@glacial wind @ionic breach ^^
Built different
LOL
I legit didnt take a single tab
btw the pain was like 9.6/10
Even now i have it due to the muscle cramping and holding my shoulder tightly to prevent dislocation again
so i need physio
Damn
Shesh thats bad
I would probably have like trauma and be unable to do breaststroke again
I didnāt notice it for years is crazy
You overstrained it bruh
Welp the more you know
dw i wont, im not insane
Like a month ago
So you know
Tekong is FUCKING HOT
Cuz my coach is ass and a hypocrite so I left until like September (next season)
Yeah his a cunt then
Iām like top 3 fastest overall swimmer in my team LMAO top two if not best in breaststroke
We donāt talk about backstroke though.
in my section at that time i was top 5 in my
Athelethic ability
yea its actually my main concern
I think my backstroke split on a 200im was like 55 seconds a year ago
That's normal in my place
my eczema will be going to overdrive
Its not here, cuz basic training you'll get a lot of issues
You need doctors memo and send to CMPB
Then you wanna down pes fucking jialat you need to declare everything, for me i had childhood dyslexia and social anxiety
so they deck me down to E9
but i fought up to B1
im rn on perm status as B4 until i get better and redo my FFI
and redo BMT
before or during ns?
as in they check when i get called for service?
So if i were you ah, dont bother just send to CMPB
or do i have to do myself
THEY WONT
You need to request and do yourself
all on ur accord
aight will do
oh yea, i was looking for directions to cmpb
ANYTHING below C9 is KJ camp
CMPB are fuckers lah bro
honestly no idea what that means
Google singapore PES status
KJ is kranji camp (MAINLAND)
Tekong is pulau tekong (OFFLAND)
does the training differ a lot?
nah its good ill look it up eventually when i havee time
Yes it does
im in my internship rn lmao
i have a feeling that this isnt keyboard modding related
THIS IS A MODDING CHANNEL
Mb mb They wanted to know so i just told them
wont happen again tony (HOPEFULLY)
mb back to work i go
time to discuss the knob again
pls dont light your knob on fire
how does it work
honestly no clue. far as i know its black magic
i dont even know who actually knows how it works at the company
simon prob does but idk who else would know
maybe the magnet is in like a middle position and gets up and down depending on rotation
and then snaps back into middle
with every step
no idea how to design that mechanically tho
are u not working on implementing it in firmware or sum
im a backend dev (technically web dev but i dont do much frontend work really)
i think the only 4 things people actually see that i worked on is the initial support wizard implementation when it launched, the rewards page on the hub, the discord role rewards in the hub and the timeline on the order in the hub
ah okay š
Gotta have a hands on to understand it
But you'll probs need a switch for it
Since it needs to be connected to the PCB
yes yesy es
our switches arent connected to the pcb
no he board has switches connected to the pcb
oh also no clue
supposedly possible with just a rotating diametrically magnetized magnet
its something u need Since the PCB runs on magnents
and the switches combined def can power the knobs
if not idk then
there is no power
well not power in a sense but yknow what i mean
supposedly needs some funny multipole magnet with unique patters for each direction
could this work @tawdry tree
so its not looking for only change in the field but also a pattern
it's just a sawtooth pattern but wrapped around a cylinder
basically how some ballpoint pen mechanism work except this one does so continuously and not once every click
and then wrap that same sawtooth pattern around another nesting cylinder, but flip it 180° and make that one move the magnet up and then to the middle again
if they use that
yeehaw two-way encoder that translates a magnet up-down into rotation ccw or cw
could also be the fancy magnet thing
Any point in buying new stabs or should I just lube the stock ones
any fixing u have to do with ur current one u have to do with new stabs anyways
Iām sure the part number was shared before but I canāt find it anymore.
Iām fairly certain this isnāt possible at all with the sensors Woot uses. They read literally nothing when the magnet is oriented horizontally. Iām guessing they can only sense vertically if thatās even a thing. Maybe so the magnets from different switches donāt affect the reading?
Most Iāve seen either have two sensors or one big one that can sense the way you described before.
If you still have a Jade Mini E laying around, those have magnets oriented horizontally so you could just install that and press down to see if anything happens.
Gateron flaming TTC holy š„š„
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I donāt think thatās even possible with the sensors woot uses.
the magnet knows where it is because it knows where it isnāt. š„
why tho
it would just create certain "strenghts"
you canāt know which way the knob is turning from that
with wootās sensors*
if north faces the sensor, then by turning the south faces the sensor, itād be the exact same if you turned backwards.
and it needs to know exactly where it is without using old info
like when you just turn on your pc
and power the board
Whatās a good website to buy the owlab tis
region?
US
Thanks Iāll check it out
Yeah but itās not sideways yet, this is just a regular switch. Would like to try to see though.
But I gotta solder a lead to free up my hands I think
Ma girl
what if its i a pattern with more "steps" so that depending on the change from current there can only be one option
What kind of switch opener would the owlab tis use
Thanks
does anybody know if the friction pad fits into the tofu60
it does
you wanna rotate the magnet of a normal switch rather than use a Jade Mini E? Or even with a Jade Mini E youād have to solder?
I have no clue how thatād even be possible tbh
Spinning something might require an additional hand is all
I can try a Jade mini e without modifications
Getting coffee and heading up to try
it def will, yeah.
Makes sense that something would show up, but yeah probably not enough to work well enough to use
yeah
tmw you casually show of your scope
Iād think thatād rule out the press at least, maybe not rotation yet though.
What's tmw I'm still learning the lingo T_T
that moment when
Oh
I think with a little dexterity I can use a shucked magnet by hand, gonna give it a shot
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I know just one to donate for science: my open bottom modded KoM
you know what you could do too, if you have a stem holder, just take out the Jade Mini Eās stem and rotate it
Yeah I was gonna use a stem holder
getting a switchās magnet out might be a bit tedious
I figure brute force would do the trick
Squeezed it out like toothpaste with pliers
let's goo
keyboard torture, now switch torture..
but only for holy80
KoM magnet turned sideways spinning
Tried to get some infinite rotation in but you get the idea
INTERESTING!!
Problem is that inserting it sideways yields similar results to the jade mini e, as expected
Not much signal
So I'm still not really sure about the press
Two magnets?
But that'd mess w/ their fields š¤·
Oh no wait pressing in yield some signal, lemme cap
so itād seem 180° is possible by just rotating the horizontal magnet like this. then the tricky part is how would you distinguish between rotating further or backwards after that..
maybe after 180°, the magnet shifts closer to the sensor for then next 180°? šµāš«
Just have to find the sweet spot and it's not as dramatic as when it's in normal orientation
this jitter is peculiar too, it showed up in analog monitor as well when testing the mini Es.
maybe itās some calibration thing
When it bottoms out?
It's entirely possible and wonkiness is due to my holding the probe by hand against the teeny sensor leg poorly
But anyway, it sure looks like you get enough signal out to work with
Iāll check later today again too. It could be that if the magnet is slightly offset the signal becomes cleaner as well.
Rather than directly above the sensor
yeah, for sure
Anything else you wanna see before I clean my desk off again?
Of course, fun to try out
Still don't really know about big knob
Still wonder if it's like... spinning 4x of them in series
That'll be cool
just up and down I think
youād only need 2 really
2 magnets above two sensors
that go up/down as you rotate
I donāt know how that mechanism is called
but thereās a name for it for sure
like a wavy pattern on a cylinder
something like this perhaps
Would be a fun problem to solve on the software side
I feel like I need to play on my 60 some to apologize to it
buy it a knob
your blender donut is looking kinda weird
Poor woot pom
I hope everything will cost around 120$
It had experience a life altering mishap during lubing (#š§ākeyboard_modding message) so it was dedicating its body to science
Ic ic
Poor pom
Crunch pom
Squish pom?
𤦠Why didn't I do this testing on my UwU, would have been so much easier. Maybe not tho since it wouldn't really rest on a stand.
Wooting's implementation of it isn't really accuracy critical compared to those sensors that are designed for this where they can measure like one thousandths of a degree. So you can get away with one sensor here.
how the heck do you know which way the magnet is rotating with just one sensor
I thought that was the reason why most have two
Look at how the waveform changes over time.
Or more specifically
The voltage
that gets mirrored every 180° š
and it needs to know which way its turning even when just turning on
software could calculate for that based on starting position and change couldn't it?
But the crossover with the 180 is very obvious and very detectable.
yeah like ducky said surely the software could keep track
then it just accounts for it based on readings so far
I donāt think so
Not really, for wooting's application it doesn't need to know the absolute position of the encoder magnet. It just needs to know the relative position of the magnet.
Diff the voltage between polls and you get the vector
Yeah.
how do you differentiate between continuous and forward/backwards rotation
and howād you even know which way itās turning without having any older info (i.e on startup)
From the peak/trough, that I'm not so sure.
But I'm not well versed in rotary encoders
neither am I but I donāt see how youād achieve something like this with a single sensor
from my limited understanding, thatād seem impossible
if all the magnet did was rotate
ofc we have up and down as well
i'm most curious about how scuffed the chinese brands versions of that is going to be
because it sounds like something very technically tricky to program for some random part time dev that most of those budget oem brands use
surely raesha will make something like this
they already have numerous HE stuff iirc
scroll wheels etc
the thing is I think this is one of those things that takes a lot of time tweaking and adjusting to make it work well the way wooting wants it to work
ofc
so i could see like a rakka type brand eventually have something on that level, but there's no way the oem clone guys would invest enough to do that
some OEM stuff has a lot going for it tho
i'm guessing they just released a knob that can turn and be pressed in similar spots but that's it as far as the functionality goes and it won't be as programmable or hot swappable
It's very possible to do with just one sensor. You can use a different type of magnet that produces a different magnetic field. Like an Axial multipole type magnet to get better results with a single sensor.
like what they do now except the knobs will just be copy pasted to wherever wooting puts them
then they just ignore the whole part about ever moving or hot swapping the knob lol
interesting, is that common?
just 1 knob on the ESC key and you can't move it anywhere
Or they just do regular 75% stuff and put it on the top right corner
Kinda but not really, magnets like these are only used for super specific applications where you want a tighter magnetic field or like here, somehow measure the magnet orientation with one sensor by using the voltage vector it produces.
seems like itād be a feat as well just making one small enough to fit in those spots
like they always do
yeah that's what I imagine. I think the whole hot swappable and programmable aspect is way too much money to invest for those brands
There are a whole bunch of different types of magnets that can work with all differing magnetic fields.
Encoder magnets are typically pretty small.
Can at least imagine Sayo, Rakka, and the same to do good enough. Though I'm not sure how good it'll be compared to Wooting.
Neat, honestly had no idea multipole magnets like this existed
No yeah this is deffo not an easy task to do, I might describe the problem to one of my EE friends and see what they think.
Well, you know, >2 poles š
Since from what I observe, other than not having 0.1mm RT/Customizable deadzone, Wooting's implementation is always the superior one.
no one except the australians here understand what you just said because you started with no yeah
the aussie classic
Lmao
I'm all š s if you do
no yeah vs yeah nah translation matrix only works for australians
would this still suffer from the same problem? as the problem is rotational symmetry essentially?
For that specific type of magnet probably, but there are other types of magnets that can work here like I described above.
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it's amazing, is aligner arguing for 4x4 knob on 60% - and so because of this he mistrusts the 1u knob, as "impossible" to make (when it's already been made)?
it can be done probably much simpler than we think. but how I think is just just by being a bit off center of the receiver and magnet having different pattern encoded in it in some way, and this pattern is ofc different the other way of turning the knob - and so what firmware would do is just pretty simple pattern recognition.
It's not that it's impossible
We are just curious about how wooting did it
well there is like a couple or 3 ways of doing it
mana I canāt šš
The 4x4 knob is easy, the 1u knob, not so much.
but it's more like "it's magical, just because we don't know how it's done", when in reality it's almost certainly pretty easy.
like with any magic trick
I know wooting used black magic, that is a fact and 90% of people agree with me. š
Just follow the old hercules and xena warrior princess answer. Anything that can't be explained was done by a wizard
I recently discovered that 78.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Crazy!
only 2% of the people in this channel understand the reference
Yeah, I'm no electrical engineer so I really don't know any other way this can be done outside my limited experience with some electricity and magnetism classes that every engineering student takes. Lmao.
or 2.472% to be exact
I am in this 2%
Many achievements are "easy" once you know how it's done. Figuring out how to do it is not.
That's all we're trying to do š
Beat Wooting to the market and absolutely destroy their knob business š
weāve already boiled it down to magic or aliens so Iām pretty satisfied with that
it's just that aligner literally argues (in dms and probably here too) for the 2x2 knob even on the 60he, and uses this 1u knob having "compromises" that will have severe drawbacks - all this while not knowing at all how it's all done. just funny.
this is a masterpiece and you know it!
I am not involving myself in your 60v2 dramas š
You definitely should itās good for the soul
My agar finally comin tmr š
My stabs in my town but not on a truck š„
I dunno if mail goes out on mem day?
Wouldāve come today if it werenāt mem day
New nvme and mouse should get here in the next few days
Nvme today
Mouse shouldn't take longer than 2 days so long as ups knows how to drive
I need to finish spring swapping my tiās
which one (model)
They kinda hit like crack on 42.5g springs
Some random shitty 2tb one just for games
I think it's from fikwotš
It was like 90$ cheaper than anything else and if it shits the bed a year from now I won't care
Itās more like when they feel like drivin
Nice
They better fucking feel like it
Oh nahhhh
(I've only been waiting a week I'm just really impatient)
as long as it's not qlc it's fine
Iāve been waiting for like 3 weeks now
Iām also rly impatient
SLC š š
Hella expensive but it's worth it
If you include me being broke and waiting for it to even release I've been waiting like 8 months
slc doesn't exist anymore except for cache
I know some enterprise storage solutions use them but it's very VERY expensive.
not worth for consumers like us, not even for data centers
No yeah it's excessive
if we want speed we have pci 5, redundancy is made with raid cards
If u include me being destined for this kb Iāve been waiting for 16 yrs

Yeah Pcie gen 5 ssds are blazing fast, I have a Samsung 9100 Pro in my main work pc and it's plenty fast for what I do. Lmao.

after using them for like one week i think i'm gonna have to lube either the stabs or the owl ti's. It do be sounding a bit scratchy
i wonder how the silicone insert will make the keyboard sound like
Dang, sure lit up like a Christmas tree
it sounds pretty good actually
Does anyone have the video of the owlab case build guide?
Cant find on wooting channel
not sure i'd pair it with KAT, might check out a different profile
Nevermind found it
Hope it's included w the module
Would like to try it w my tofu
same
with the new wrist rest idk how to feel about the tofu. I love my tofu but that insert to keep the wrist rest in place would come clutch
im always having to adjust my current one and its annoying
I don't use a wrist rest so 𤷠š¤·
Do you use one of the existing Wooting rests? I think the attachment is neat, but mine is rock solid on the desk even without it.
I suppose if my desk were wood/made of an uneven material that wouldn't be the case.
I'm pumped to go back to 4mm
would you guys recommend using the poron foam for the ow60?
yeah its the 60he+ wrist rest
i use a razer matt on my wooden desk then the 60he+ and the wrist rest sit on it



