🔧│keyboard_modding

[snow yarrow]

Also, dont mind me guys, im just omw to assemble the infinity keyboard

About to strafe mfs out of existence

[untold wigeon]

they will hype up the game first with console’s gameplay

[tropic urchin]

Oh my

[calm pulsar]

24 fps gameplay let's go

[untold wigeon]

let’s gooo

let’s suck some money to buy a new gpu and a $100 game

[tropic urchin]

Yeah but is the game good enough to run on my beast PS4

[untold wigeon]

imagine my 4070ti can’t run the game

[chilly mural]

fuk, that means my 4070TIS can't too

[untold wigeon]

i might just buy a RX GRTX 6969TI Super Ultra Max

[chilly mural]

or barely able

we have dlss to turn 20fps to 40fps

[untold wigeon]

this would be an insane gpu

ngl

[calm pulsar]

I think im set with 4080 and 7800x3d, but I will upgrade to 9800x3d once the dollar price goes even lower hehe

[untold wigeon]

nah man, R-I Core 9 9800xK

would be better

[calm pulsar]

[untold wigeon]

it will run gta 6 max 60fps 640p

HAHAHHAHAH

[calm pulsar]

with dlss performance

[untold wigeon]

yesss

that’ll be the best combo

minimum ram 128TB

[snow yarrow]

Used 7800x3d prices were insane soon after 9800x3d dropped, so i sold mine for 400€ and got a 9800x3d

[tall hollow]

TTC KOMs my beloved

[calm pulsar]

lmao that's nice

[tall hollow]

Why not the Ryzen 9 9950X3D?

[calm pulsar]

games don't really benefit from 16 cores, and there can even be performance issues since the other cores are on a separate die

[tall hollow]

Ah

I usually have very mixed usages with my main PC. So the higher core count is desirable

[calm pulsar]

yeah that's totally fair, I think higher core count x3ds are still very nice cause they offer good performance in apps while still being good for games

[tropic urchin]

Flux: W, snake: A, POM: S, Gaming: D, Ruby: Q, RAW (?): E 🌹

[tall hollow]

Yeah, the extra 3D V-cache they offer is also really nice

It's like double the amount of cache than their regular CPUs

[polar girder]

lol what da hell

[polar girder]

lol

https://tenor.com/view/your-happy-workplace-wendy-conrad-thoughts-thought-thinking-gif-17253346

[sacred elm]

👀

[snow yarrow]

😭 😭 😭

[balmy geyser]

have anyone use gray studio emonda case?

[grim siren]

How much was it

[calm pulsar]

what specifically?

I built this pc almost 2 years ago and the prices went up on the gpus here

[tidal frigate]

Good to know owlab wooting case will be EU exclusive

[grim siren]

The whole pc

[calm pulsar]

its been on AE for some time now🤠

[calm pulsar]

id have to go through different websites to remember the cost, but I think gpu + cpu were around 1500 when I was buying

[tidal frigate]

Well clones without special feature

[snow yarrow]

Can someone exlplain the bouncing mechanism on the owlab case in nooby terms? Whats the point of it being able to bounce, like my tuned lowrider cars in gta san andreas back in them days?

[glacial wind]

Typing comfort. Some folks like a bit of give and bounce

It’s personal preference though in that some people prefer stiffer and less bounce for gaming

[glossy pagoda]

In a normal case, when you bottom out a keypress, your fingers hit a point and stop instantly. This can lead to fatigue over time, especially in long gaming sessions.
With a gasket mount system like the 80HE, there's a little bit of flex where the force of your fingers hitting the bottom is distributed through the gasket mount.
With the owlabs case, this distribution of force is even more prominent and the feeling is even softer

[languid kestrel]

I went from normo mounting like tray mount or other fixed mounts to a zoom75 with gasket mounting, flex cuts and pc plate, and literally could not tell a difference in the "bounce"

[glossy pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/chevy-iihs-crash-test-crumple-car-crash-gif-26741683

Like this but your fingers for every key you press

[languid kestrel]

only if I press it with like >5kg of force can I see it flexing, and same for the 80HE for me

cannot tell how the gasket mounting is supposed to feel any different than anything else, given the <100grams of force we press keys with on every stroke

I think it's a bunch of hooey

[glossy pagoda]

I can personally feel the difference between the 80HE and my tray-mounted 60HE in an Alumaze

[languid kestrel]

[austere creek]

i can feel the difference between my 2he (generally all w2 family boards) and the rest of our products

one has a nice numpad and the others it feels like the numpad is wood

[calm pulsar]

softer mounts do affect the sound too, even if the bounce/flex is not felt very clearly

[languid kestrel]

yeah I feel like it's mostly in the sound profile

[calm pulsar]

though the sound on owlabs didnt seem very soft

[snow yarrow]

This was actually the very first thing i noticed going from 60he (alu plate) to 80he, for me there was a very big difference in how soft the typing felt on 80he and i immediately fell in love

Sounds like i might have to try and get that case

[fluid ravine]

I mean the bounce from the case is from the case chassis design, it's basically a gimmick.

[calm pulsar]

yeah it's like a moving tray mount

[fluid ravine]

It's like using a case and putting springs on the bottom

[fluid ravine]

Yh

So there really isn't any true mounting isolation to provide that gasket feel and sound, well idk how the friction pad in it works exactly in terms of isolation compared to tray mount and gasket mount but it still has no "gasket mount" affect in the board other than the board feeling bouncy from the case design itself.

Oh btw, my neo65 50a oring works with 60%

Apparently the diameter is pretty damn close to 40a and it fits just fine like a 60%

Guess if I wanted to I could just pick up a 70a now

[polar girder]

Salvation 2.0

[calm pulsar]

i'd probably rather have salv

[polar girder]

Lolz

Yeah

The owlabs case is almost more of a tilt actuation under force

Rather than bounciness

[tidal frigate]

Look car stiff but suspension can be stiff or bouncy

[tawdry tree]

Any news on Owlab case this stream?

or anything else interesting

[chilly mural]

stuff will be explained more on next week Friday, USA and Russia wont be getting it

[tawdry tree]

rip those from the US or Russia who wanted it 😭

did they say why? for US I can understand

[chilly mural]

I dont know, but Russia in general can't get woot product, they have to send it to Kazakh first

I assume US can do the same with Canada

[tawdry tree]

ohh

didn’t know that

I forgot about it rather 🥴

[chilly mural]

im gonna try 1.0mm actuation point

not for speed but because low actuation point messes up my muscle memory when changing to input method that isn't HE

[glacial wind]

pretty much what we already knew here, in that it'd be raffled 200 units for first drop

[tawdry tree]

didn’t know that was confirmed already

[glacial wind]

they said later batches will be more and hopefully not as limited

[tawdry tree]

oh wth, they’ll produce more than one batch

I thought it was like a one off

so the goal is for it to be in stock like the optimum?

[glacial wind]

well it'll be limited in that owlabs will do it in batches and i doubt they can make as many as the optimum cases

but yeah it's not meant to be a once off

[tawdry tree]

nice

[glacial wind]

wooting staff also not allowed to buy from batch 1 to make it fair for customers

[chilly mural]

case very expensive, I don't think most people can buy it

[tidal frigate]

@tawdry tree first batch is 200 raffle only and second batch will be 800 units

[tidal frigate]

Sander has already like four of them

He can share

On May 9 we will have pricing

@tawdry tree my guess is 350€

[tawdry tree]

€400+

[tidal frigate]

Nah thats price for their 75%

[tawdry tree]

Surely

[tidal frigate]

Well definetly it would be more expensive than optimum case

[tawdry tree]

how much is optimum again?

like <€150 right?

€130

x3 that

€390

[tidal frigate]

130 €

[tawdry tree]

my guess

[tidal frigate]

Well i hope so they have measures to stop resellers

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think resellers would be that interested tbh

[glacial wind]

i guarantee resellers are interested in drop 1

there's not a ton they can do to stop it beyond just making sure each person is a real valid person though

[tawdry tree]

it’s already on AE with a big markup, but none sold yet iirc

[misty sapphire]

what case are you guys talking about?

[glacial wind]

because the markup was like 3x lol

resell markup is usually like 1.5-2x

[tawdry tree]

€900 lol

[glacial wind]

owlabs guaranteed will be resold, at least for first drop until it's more numbers. not much you can do about it unfortunately

[tawdry tree]

that ^

[misty sapphire]

jesus christ

[chilly mural]

ayy, tee hee

[misty sapphire]

why the hell is it that expensive

[tawdry tree]

well, if first drop is a raffle I hope it’ll be a bit easier for them to filter out mass buyers

[tawdry tree]

it’s not released yet

[glacial wind]

well it's not so much mass buyers that you worry about, it's more people who enter and resell every drop

[tawdry tree]

outside of china*

[glacial wind]

at least they can stop the mass buyers already by doing raffle

[misty sapphire]

anything that makes them special over other HE boards?

[tawdry tree]

resell is fine

[glacial wind]

owlabs in particular is famous for professional collectors who enter and resell every drop

[tawdry tree]

surely

[chilly mural]

imagine 1000 entry from 1 guy

[glacial wind]

some who have been caught reselling even just the spot in line for the last owlab drop, before their case even shipped

[tawdry tree]

exactly

[tawdry tree]

gimmicks

[glacial wind]

well that's not really fair

it's more that it's owlabs. People in keyboard space pay for the brand and style

[tawdry tree]

gimmicks in design and in functionality 🔥

[misty sapphire]

brand loyalty is gross

[glacial wind]

the tl;dr it's like buying a name brand limited edition car or something from ferrari

[misty sapphire]

yeah get it now, thanks 😄

[glacial wind]

owlabs in particular is the keyboard that make the word 'thock' famous

i'm sure you've seen how youtubers love to say thock everywhere

[misty sapphire]

i do not know what thock is and i dont think i ever will

[glacial wind]

owlabs was the reason thock became a thing

[misty sapphire]

thock, creamy ect

[chilly mural]

Embrace clack

[tawdry tree]

were they the first to dilute the meaning of thock?

[glacial wind]

thock didn't even really exist to average person at the time

[misty sapphire]

i like the sound my geon raws make idk what that is

[misty sapphire]

it still doesnt

the average person doesnt even use mechanical

[tawdry tree]

it does but it’s meaningless now

[glacial wind]

owlabs basically made one of the early keyboards to throw foam etc in and make that sound and it was the viral trend of the time

you can look up owlab jelly if you're curious

and ever since then they've been a big name brand in the space with their designs and keyboards

[tawdry tree]

so they made plastic “thock” famous

or at least helped it

become what it is today

[glacial wind]

the basically invented it

[misty sapphire]

i assure you the average person has no clue what "thock" is. the average person doesnt even know theres different kind of keyboards

[tawdry tree]

reinvented

[glacial wind]

it existed before but not in mass market appeal and known to everyone

[tawdry tree]

if you can call it that

[glacial wind]

well yeah no one here is talking about average person

we're talking about $400 keyboards lol

[misty sapphire]

you were 😛

[glacial wind]

'average' as in average custom enthusiast

[tawdry tree]

average person in the hobby

[glacial wind]

not your normal gamer guy

the funny thing is at the time everyone loved it, because the trend of keyboards hadn't gotten bored of foam sound yet, so everyone went crazy for owlabs jelly

[misty sapphire]

so does thock even have a definition at this point

[tawdry tree]

now thock is pretty much meaningless

but it had meaning then

and before then as well

[glacial wind]

owlab jelly, mr suit, jelly epoch, vento - you can go look up their resales now on mechmarket if you're curious

every drop they do since then has been heavily bought out and resold

[languid kestrel]

love scarcity and not being able to buy a thing 😒 not that I would anyway but it's horrifying

every single thing these days is sold out immediately and not restocked until months and months

be it computers, consoles, or super niche custom shit

[chilly mural]

just desire for skill

[misty sapphire]

artificial scarcity*

[chilly mural]

or have none

[languid kestrel]

and of course it's bots and resellers that win

[glacial wind]

at least with the wooting version it will be available again afterwards, so it might keep resale pricing from going too crazy

[stray tiger]

I think it'll be pretty tame, but who knows

[glacial wind]

i saw owlabs discord folk were already ready to lose on raffle odds lol

[tidal frigate]

Well isint it compatible with gh60 boards too?

[misty sapphire]

asked this earlier but replied to someone by accent so im asking again 😛
i heard some people swap out the plates on their 80he, what material would be best for a deeper / quieter keyboard?

[glacial wind]

i think the scary thing about owlab drops is they always feel very lowkey, you almost think no one is entering and everyone has a chance, but then raffle happens and you realize there's a whole bunch of lurker entries

i've still never won a single owlabs raffle for the australia region despite entering every single one lol

[tidal frigate]

So we are doomed and no wooting owners have no chance?

[glacial wind]

you could try PP plate, but honestly the stock pc plate is already quite good

[glacial wind]

honestly i think it depends on how aware the non he groups are

[tidal frigate]

I think only our discord know about it

[glacial wind]

if word gets out to all the non he collector groups then it's hard to win because they all jump in

[tidal frigate]

Unless owlab posts link to wooting discord

[glacial wind]

they already did

[tidal frigate]

OH no

Looks like we will lose

[tidal frigate]

Tho do they know owlab wooting case is only compatible with wooting right?

[misty sapphire]

are they a dutch brandaswell?

[glacial wind]

nah owlab is asia

[languid kestrel]

maybe I'll enter just to scalp it

[tidal frigate]

You will be banned then

[glacial wind]

owlab is actually the 'luxury' brand of qwertykeys if you're familiar with them

[languid kestrel]

unlikely

[glacial wind]

qwertykeys is their more 'mass market' keyboards similar to meletrix and wuque who do the zoom75 type stuff

[tidal frigate]

@glacial wind so why they would want this owlab case if it is only compatible with wooting

[languid kestrel]

to resell or just to have I guess

[glacial wind]

custom keyboard folk like to collect keyboards

[tidal frigate]

I know that

[glacial wind]

and owlab stuff is one of the big collectables

[tidal frigate]

Well maybe requirement will be owning wooting keyboard

Before raffle

To join raffle

[glacial wind]

i'm actually curious to see how many entries they get for raffle because it's not a design that will be for everyone, but at same time i could see the finalmouse rich kid types jump onto chance to buy a temporarily limited edition wooting

[tidal frigate]

Well you have to have money to buy wooting

If you have money to buy wooting and can buy case without issue you are rich

[tawdry tree]

it’s not only compatible with woot

any 60%

maybe not any, but most

[glacial wind]

hrm but the real news is that a new sony camera is being announced this month apparently. That's what we all need to prepare for

[silk hound]

Yipeee

[glacial wind]

good pickups

[stray tiger]

Grats

[sick jackal]

Thanks, now I'm waiting on the keycaps to arrive.

[stray tiger]

What did you pick?

[sick jackal]

GMK Retrowave with Novelties & Artisan keycaps.

[stray tiger]

Oh nice, dont see a lot of retrowave

[sick jackal]

Yeah, I also picked up the purple KBDfans GT-80 case.

I wanted something to match the purple.

[stray tiger]

Oh that might look great!

I'm beyond stoked that GMK Sloth is winning the NK small batch poll

[sick jackal]

That's I can't wait to put this all together. I ordered a new desk mat, mouse, and mousepad as well.

I was stuck between the Retrowave and the Darling.

[stray tiger]

Darling is kind of played out now so I think RW was a good choice.

[sick jackal]

Oh, good to know. I've not been paying attention to builds as of late so I was kind of clueless what to go with on keycaps.

I also was able to grab a Wallhack SP-004 Gravity Yume pad.

[tulip rapids]

what switches are those?

[stray tiger]

Owlab TI HE

[tulip rapids]

ty father

[misty sapphire]

how are they?

[tulip rapids]

alright i ask for advice its like pimp my ride but pimp my keyboard

any advice?

[stray tiger]

It already looks really good! If you want to fancy it up some but keep it looking similar, look into PBTfans Xray keycaps

[tulip rapids]

tofu 60 redux case with brass weight, foam, pc plate, geon switches factory lube and wooting keycaps

[tulip rapids]

ty father

[glacial wind]

you're lucky. I'm old enough to have watched every episode of pimp my ride on original mtv airing. You need to add 2 tvs to the back of your wooting 80he and gold rim edging around your entire case

[tulip rapids]

you right

not enough tvs

[stray tiger]

@tulip rapids similar board but with xray

[glacial wind]

if you can somehow install a subwoofer to the keyboard then that's a popular one too

[tulip rapids]

i was thinking of getting that new case you guys keep talking about for either my 60he or 80he the leggera (mb for the spelling)

[marsh saffron]

Xray my beloved

[tulip rapids]

thats clean

[stray tiger]

Nothing wrong with the Tofu its a great case!

[tulip rapids]

okok then i'll mod my 80he later in the year

[tulip rapids]

did you get your keycaps from kbdfans?

[marsh saffron]

I got mine from deskhero so I didn't have to pay 200+ cad

I gotta pay crazy shipping and import fees from kbdfans

[tulip rapids]

what about custom fees?

yeah kbdfans custom fees hit me hard

when i bought tofu

[marsh saffron]

Deskhero is Canadian so none

For me

Just like 8 dollar shipping

[tulip rapids]

thx i'll look into that

[stray tiger]

Might be a few sellers out there with xray instock but you can also check mechmarket. Ive seen some sets go for $90 recently

[marsh saffron]

I haven't seen any retailers lately with stock

[tulip rapids]

https://www.deskhero.ca/products/cable-x-ray?_pos=1&_sid=7ad00ab5e&_ss=r

[marsh saffron]

Interest check on kbdfans

Idk if it's finished yet or not though

[tulip rapids]

rgb cable lol

[last flicker]

guys i have a question, do you think these keycaps would fit the 80he https://www.amazon.com/XVX-Shine-Through-Keycaps-Mechanical/dp/B0CGZR8HKS/ref=sr_1_25?crid=2P2Y5OWA7OBX6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.8jxd6mhGm3K8LSWv23N8O1XpW5lSaMe44B4lcop9FMvILL6tfDTVj_Owrk3s2bUaMSLx_i4NugMfUPQ6xpe1S-IzkdtJ8JtbQU4M4QmWhv3TejhX3e3l8dJGGitGr8yeVPmNXv6boYw4vtKfIP7pj7iahg8doovvy8h-L0oJrzABAnegwB1L8NpNMGC7gF-LbuL3JxyZM-WNaP_cQxQlm7GceggiOuPl_Tgk21Yfv3h7iKi8MjWeRQ5Mur0JNiE5GYFl1SwV9d9c9_hw2jYoulhnl51QaB5GvtszjUHy5yA.L-TCrs_AjZ4CPjAU3vUIRqd8LCdA5dMh1TRIAwV7NB4&dib_tag=se&keywords=japanese%2Bkeycaps%2B80&qid=1746208843&s=electronics&sprefix=japanese%2Bkeycaps%2B80%2Celectronics%2C84&sr=1-25&th=1

i just got my keyboard im a noob lol

if not, where would you guys get keycaps that fit

[tulip rapids]

is wooting going to add more switches to its website?

[marsh saffron]

More than likely yes

[tawdry tree]

GT60 clone 🔥🔥

With more LEDs!!

[marsh saffron]

Coffee proof lfg

[tawdry tree]

One of the most commonly spilled drinks

💯

[sick jackal]

Yes, that's what they are.

[tawdry tree]

LED maxxing (different board)

[sick jackal]

I haven't got to install them yet. I will probably this weekend.

[last flicker]

thank you!

[sick jackal]

Any recommendations on wrist rests?

[chilly mural]

When Wooting's LED is not enough

[chilly mural]

Hopefully the software is not as bad

[fluid ravine]

Me me!

[fluid ravine]

Does this make me have more fps automatically?

Cus I'm running at 1fps with my one led

[tawdry tree]

Surelyyyyyyyyy

[tawdry tree]

Of courseee

Double the LEDs, quadruple the FPS

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

Wya?

[sick jackal]

Not sure if my message got moved to the side but anyone know of any good wrist rest companies or have any ideas?

[fluid ravine]

Wooting

[sick jackal]

I currently have the wooting but I was looking more for something that matched a theme.

[fluid ravine]

What theme you lookin for

Lowkey I might need one myself

[sick jackal]

Well, I have a purple GT-80 case and I went with the GMK Retrowave keyset.

This one is pretty cool but a bit pricey

This is pretty cool as well but doesn't really match my theme in colors.

[storm axle]

weird, i bought a plate for the 80he it arrived with stab cut that seems to be for plate mounted stabs, but when i tried to installed it, it fit in fine with the stock screw in stabs

[night atlas]

i remember the days when i first started getting into pc gaming and was enamored by razer RGB products

[tawdry tree]

Stock screw in stabs fit through plate mount holes. Stabs like Typeplus, TX AP and Staebies for example do not.

[night atlas]

are owlabs the smoothes switch on the market

atm

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think there’s an objective way to measure that

[night atlas]

cause every other switch i have now feels like there's some sort of friction... or i'm just too used to it

ya fair, i guess i'm asking for anectodal evidence, which is flawed inherently

[tulip rapids]

maple syrup land

[tawdry tree]

Most of Hejin’s magnetic switches are pretty smooth

an exception would be Raw HEs perhaps

maybe the box stems too

[fluid ravine]

Where da haill

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/sorrey-gif-8824598

[stray tiger]

Some people pay extra for the scratchiness

[night atlas]

truuuu

which HE switches are known for their intended scratchiness

as part of their selling point?

i've heard about that on mech switches but not HE afaik

[stray tiger]

I meant for mech switches

I'm sure it won't be long for HE though

[night atlas]

ok so i'm always confused about this, hejin is the manufacturer for switches that have the same "format" as raws right

[stray tiger]

What do you mean by format?

Raws are manufactured by Grain Gold

[night atlas]

oh yea, shoulda been clearer, some of the HE switches i've been getting these days feel like there's a significant amount of friction compared to ti he

[fluid ravine]

Have you found any sellers?

[night atlas]

i guess like, the similar styles of housings + light diffuser?

and like how a good amount of switches have that style these days if that makes sense

[stray tiger]

In the end they are just switches and people will copy or closely copy molds and design elements so its not unexpected that some switches will look similar.

[night atlas]

i'm aware they're all just switches (that's what 90% of this channel is about LMAO), my question is if that particular style is called hejin. I was wondering if that's what was implied by this ****

[tawdry tree]

Hejin is GG

Just the Chinese name

[night atlas]

ah i see

did not know they were the same company

i hear those names tossed around a lot

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

One of the biggest magnetic switch manufacturer there is rn

[night atlas]

so for raws, is that manufactured by gg/hejin, but branded/distributed by geon?

that part confuses me a lil

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[night atlas]

it's all making sense now

[tawdry tree]

Raptors too (though Geon claims they’re manufactured by him on the site iirc)

[shy valve]

anyone know why is my spacebar randomly stuck sometimes during use (wont bounce back up after pressing down unless i press it down with force) after switching to ceramic keycaps

[night atlas]

what about the UR ice line

[fluid ravine]

The spring in the switch can't support the weight of the space bar

[tawdry tree]

Hejin too

[fluid ravine]

You need to spring swap into something heavier

[tawdry tree]

Does it get stuck as in catching on something or just sluggishly slow?

[misty sapphire]

yup

[night atlas]

damn hejin owns all... the illusion of choice

[misty sapphire]

ceramic is heavy, spring is to light

[stray tiger]

Grain Gold = Dongguan Grain Gold Electronic Technology Co. LTD

[tawdry tree]

Most of those cheaper magnetic switches are either by Hejin, Yiqian or Haimu

[night atlas]

and that = Hejin... right

[tawdry tree]

yeah

well Hejin is Grain Gold

[shy valve]

It just stays at the bottom after it gets stuck and doesnt bounce back up (The only way for it to bounce back up is to press it really hard)

[tawdry tree]

Grain Gold is the english translation

[shy valve]

which makes typing a pain

[tawdry tree]

(or close to it at least)

[night atlas]

had to make sure

LOL

oh also

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, it doesn’t really sound like it’s cause of the weight.

[night atlas]

what're difference between ur ice ultra and the max version..?

[tawdry tree]

Does it happen with other keycaps too?

[shy valve]

nah

at least not with the original one

[tawdry tree]

Not sure yet but Imoshi said there’s a big difference in terms of smoothness and sound iirc.

[night atlas]

interesting

[tawdry tree]

Which board do you have?

[stray tiger]

Well Dongguan Hejin Plastic Machinery Company LTD is the parent of Grain Gold. Grain Gold is the switch manufacturing leg

Hopefully that makes sense

[night atlas]

yes yes

you guys are helping me develop neural pathways between these islands of thought

[calm pulsar]

all of that just to realize raeds better

[night atlas]

this fuckin guy

LOLL

[tawdry tree]

Prebuilt 60HE+? @shy valve

[shy valve]

prebuilt 80he

[tawdry tree]

Hmmm, maybe check the keycap stem pole if there’s anything sticking out

[tawdry tree]

It could be that those poles are misaligned too.

[tawdry tree]

The bottom of the keycap.

[shy valve]

it looks fine

[tawdry tree]

Does the keycap catch on the case itself?

When you press it

Like the front lip of the 80HE case

[shy valve]

there's some space between the spacebar and the case

[tawdry tree]

Hmmmm

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-blasphemous-blasphemous-stephen-a-smith-gif-7256581

[tawdry tree]

Did you make any changes besides keycaps?

[stray tiger]

I'm a firm believer in Brandolinis Law so we try to keep that Raeds talk down to a minimum 😂

[tropic urchin]

It’s okay Jade maxes will always clear

[stray tiger]

Now how many people had to Google "Brandolinis Law"?

[chilly mural]

At least 1 from me

[fringe quarry]

did someone say Raeds

👀

[trail bane]

Nevermind

[fringe quarry]

nah

ill try these 🦉 abs first

[trail bane]

Thanks god this is not a 🐧

[open tartan]

does anyone know the best place to get keychron keycaps(or some high quality ones) for US? I'm trying to buy a set from keychron's official website and the shipping is $25 for $32 keycaps and it arrives in 20 days...

is there a Us retailer or anything simmilar?

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

[glossy pagoda]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/
Here's a pretty good list of vendors per region for you to browse 🙂

[tulip rapids]

father and night gave me some tips for keycaps

[fluid ravine]

[open tartan]

thanks a lot!

[half sparrow]

Guys I changed the keycaps on my keyboard like 2 times and now like every single key feels not as smooth as before

It’s like scratchy

[thorn zealot]

What switches

[half sparrow]

Leobog reaper switches on the aula f75

[tall hollow]

this tbh lmaoooooo

overall excellent switches

[thorn zealot]

I mean not surprised with prebuilt kb switches

[half sparrow]

They were fine until I just changed the keycaps a lot on them, I think the lube probably wore off a lot

[fluid ravine]

Time to cook up the last eggs @thorn zealot

Wanna help?

[crystal parcel]

anyone have a link to the reaplcement gaskets for mounting the PCIE plate to a case

[misty sapphire]

overlubed or bent wire

overlubed stabs stick like hell, specially thick lube

[misty sapphire]

one of these is lovely for this

[night atlas]

?is that a lube station or are the switches just free standing

[fluid ravine]

Free standing

[night atlas]

gotcha ty

[thorn zealot]

Better be using 22mm 60+g springs, deskey films, and gs2 lube

[thorn zealot]

Nah desk clears

[stray tiger]

https://www.twitch.tv/alexotos

[kind helm]

[fluid ravine]

Ah hell yeh

WE back it again

When my internet is out since forever...

[kind helm]

all good

pretty cool

too bad frogboi cant watch hehehehe

[stray tiger]

Yeah that signature turned out great lol

[kind helm]

i agree with him that the backplate drawing thing makes it perfect for signing

[stray tiger]

It really is the perfect signature board

[sacred elm]

alexotos based beastx enjoyer

[stray tiger]

Alex does have an 80HE for those wondering

[fluid ravine]

Running on my mobile data

Heh

Got to watch all of it

All 72 milky yellows lubed!

[ionic breach]

🫡

[thorn zealot]

No way ppl are arguing wooting vs venom in alexotos chat 💀

[thorn zealot]

72 switches in a few days

Pretty good pace

[fluid ravine]

2 days

Basically 5-6 hours

[thorn zealot]

Good aim

[fluid ravine]

One and a half pair of hands

[reef oar]

i remember when i was lubing 60 switches my eyes just stopped focusing

[fluid ravine]

Dayum

[reef oar]

my vision would not focus

it was crazy

[fluid ravine]

Rip

[reef oar]

that is fire though

respect the grind brother

[fluid ravine]

Ppreciate it

[thorn zealot]

Also I’ve decided to get either neo60 core or cu over venom mx

[fluid ravine]

Finger work for my cripple arm

[fluid ravine]

Oo

I would too thh

Tbh

Hmmmmm

[thorn zealot]

Feel like mx won’t be as good in leggera

[fluid ravine]

If you can afford cu ig go for that

[thorn zealot]

$60 shipping from qwerty 💀 🥀

[fluid ravine]

I would loveee to have a neo65 cu

[fluid ravine]

Dafuqqq

Rip

[thorn zealot]

It only shows express shipping

They want me to go in debt

[stray tiger]

I should have sent Alex these keycaps to use in honor of mj

[little glen]

I‘ll have to watch the vod tomorrow

[fluid ravine]

Is that kkb?

[stray tiger]

Hammerworks crp tulip

[fluid ravine]

Ohh

[stray tiger]

I love how uncomfortable he is building this lol

[thorn zealot]

Shows why we should not rec venom with leggera g to beginners

[stray tiger]

Venom is 100% an enthusiast board and not for the inexperienced

[main mason]

Thoughts on ghost space bar?

[stray tiger]

Some people have said it's a spiritual experience but I dont know personally

His thoughts on the flux with aluminum is not surprising. I felt the exact same way

[main mason]

Why isn’t there a hole here?

I got the mathews silent switches

Also what’s an easy way to replace the switches

[thorn zealot]

some switches have a closed bottom

[main mason]

I disassembled the kb and it’s just the plate now

And Im using my switch puller

[sacred elm]

Yeah, would be cool if he tried fluxies on soft plate (PC or smth)

[tropic urchin]

ooh fluxies stream

[main mason]

But the clips keeps breaking

Is there anyway to poke the old switches out

[stray tiger]

Not an option from Geon though and I wanted to keep it as stock as possible

[main mason]

Without using a switch puller ?

[thorn zealot]

i just dissemble everything til its just the plate and switches

[main mason]

Bc the clips keep breaking

[main mason]

Yea I did that

[thorn zealot]

and just push the switches out from the bottom

[main mason]

HmI

[sacred elm]

Ah

[main mason]

I was trying that

I’ll try again

[tropic urchin]

W geon

[kind helm]

someone can send me their flux i have pp plate

i can try for you hehe

[sacred elm]

fluxies on soft plate clears

where are my switches gateron 🤬

[main mason]

Do like very small white pieces come Off when u do that method? @thorn zealot

I’m doing it now

By applying pressure on the bottom of the switch

[misty sapphire]

i used to play minecraft with a guy called pankake, we just dug holes for no reason

[main mason]

I’m applying pressure on the top and bottom of the switch

Top and bottom here

But small white pieces come off when I do it

🧍🏾‍♂️

I think the switches are getting damaged lol

[kind helm]

no its fine

you are making the switch better

[main mason]

There are like very little white pieces coming off

When I do it??

[kind helm]

YES ITS FINE

[main mason]

Aight lol

My thumbs hurting od

[thorn zealot]

no

[tropic urchin]

@stray tiger what plate is alex using currently

[kind helm]

alu

[main mason]

🧍🏾‍♂️

[main mason]

There are these small white pieces coming off

[tropic urchin]

mmmm

[main mason]

How do u remove them

[stray tiger]

Alum with flux

[main mason]

What’s the proper method??

[thorn zealot]

thats basically nothin

ur fine

[main mason]

Aii

[tropic urchin]

part of me wants to try alu again

[stray tiger]

switch clip dandruff

[main mason]

lol

[kind helm]

what you on? fr4?

[thorn zealot]

honestly that mightve happened to me but i just didnt notice them

[kind helm]

i think 80he go alu and cf

[tropic urchin]

ye, im using the flexcut FR4 currently

idk why but I've fucked with it the most

[kind helm]

to me its like alu when possible + (80he two piece --> less resonance --> work nice with alu) = alu

[crystal parcel]

anyone have a link to the reaplcement gaskets for mounting the PCIE plate to a case

[stray tiger]

Can you show us a photo of what youre talking about

[tropic urchin]

I think imma go back to alu plate with 1 layer tape mod

[kind helm]

glhf

[crystal parcel]

The little gasket you put on the case before you screw in the keyboard module

The module comes with 10 adhesive washers

[sacred elm]

no plastic plate = skip

[tropic urchin]

now you're rage baiting me smh

[sacred elm]

im not, its like that with fluxes, duh

alexotos said that fluxes will sound better on plastic plate

[tropic urchin]

actually you know what

ill just swap it in 30 mins anyway, but i'll try PC plate

going to be identical to my POM experience

[sacred elm]

yea try pc, you havent even tried it tbh. putting only 3 switches on it doesnt really count

[tropic urchin]

9 but pop off king

[sacred elm]

still

[tropic urchin]

🥀

🥀

take the floppy rose with your floppy ahh plate

[sacred elm]

swap to pc RIGTH NOW

no copium tape mod

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-tyson-tyson-nodding-yes-gif-25724857

[tropic urchin]

I probably wont since its already going to be soft

i only like it on harder plates to add a little bit of pop to em on top of their usual experience

[marsh saffron]

This looks like a Mike Tyson Terry crews Mashup

😭

[tropic urchin]

Rigth 🤓

[sacred elm]

Right 🤓 ☝️

[thorn zealot]

ur gonna get perma if u dont

[tropic urchin]

Why I’m glad you and *j won’t be mods hehe

Swapped artisan to mode key for the ppl that wanted me to swap it, not sure how I feel

[sacred elm]

💀 swap it back

[tropic urchin]

I was feeling the same way

[thorn zealot]

he cant be mod if hes perma'd

also why not me

i promise i wont ban perma anyone that ask for "thocky" switches

[tropic urchin]

Just the way you were eyeing me was a little sus my xenns friend

[thorn zealot]

no no

[cedar gate]

What's thockier lekker or jade?

[thorn zealot]

mods ban everyone now

i want every "thocker" perma'd

go

[half sparrow]

What’s the lube for the stabilizers

[stray tiger]

205g primarily

[half sparrow]

Ok

[tropic urchin]

Alex liking fluxies makes me feel less schizo 🌹

[sacred elm]

He really liked how they felt

[cedar gate]

Most people use dialectic or superlube for the wire and 205g0 for the housing but I personally prefer 205g0 everywhere

[half sparrow]

I need this sound gone

[cedar gate]

What plate?

[half sparrow]

Aluminum

[cedar gate]

Metal plates can cause weird stabs sometimes try PC see how that works

[half sparrow]

Do I have to take the case off to install it

[cedar gate]

Also dampening foam in space bars is cheap and great

[cedar gate]

Yeah but it's pretty easy

[half sparrow]

This is how it is from factory

[cedar gate]

Also lubing your stabs is still a good idea especially if they're dry and if you do that I'd get a syringe. It's damn near impossible to do it without a syringe

[cedar gate]

I believe that's steel then not aluminum

[half sparrow]

On Amazon it said aluminum

[cedar gate]

Which imo makes for the worst spacebar sound

[cedar gate]

Oh is it not a wooting?

[half sparrow]

No

MechLands AJAZZ AK680 MAX 3 Modes... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DS2GTQKL?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[main mason]

these mathews silent swtiches are so bad wtf

[cedar gate]

Yeah then finding a plate may be difficult. Someone else here may be able to help you with that. Spacebar foam and lubing will still work

[half sparrow]

They came very well lubed from factory

[cedar gate]

Yeah foam may help

And a plate swap if you can find a plate

[half sparrow]

Do these count

[cedar gate]

What?

[half sparrow]

The white stuff

Is that foam for it

[cedar gate]

That's the Plate so no

https://kbdfans.com/collections/keyboard-foam/products/spacebar-foam

That worked well for me

[half sparrow]

Oh that

I tried plastic wrap once because I saw it on YouTube and it didn’t worked

[cedar gate]

Yeah paper tape works slightly better but your better off just getting this honestly

[half sparrow]

How do you know which one is the correct one

[thorn zealot]

i mean ppl said they only good for if u want silent

[cedar gate]

What profile are your keycaps?

If they're cherry get the smallest one

[half sparrow]

Cherry

There’s a number on them and it says 6.25 2

[thorn zealot]

no way those stabs are well lubed

[cedar gate]

Get the 6.25 yeah

[half sparrow]

I’m sure they are because there’s a lot of while live and from the feel they are greasy

[thorn zealot]

they sound like they need lube 😭

[half sparrow]

I think it has enough lube

I’m gonna try the spacebar foam and see if it fixes the noise

[languid kestrel]

there's not enough lube in the stabs but ok

[half sparrow]

How do you know that bro

[glacial wind]

Ah nothing like a nice day out replacing all your phone sims because the entire country got their phone sim numbers leaked

[fallen pecan]

a slumbering bili tester woke up and started testing the newer stuff, 80he doing pretty well

[glacial wind]

what's the orange vs blue represent?

[fallen pecan]

blue = actuation, orange = release

2nd 80he is tachyon OFF

[sacred elm]

😳

[glacial wind]

not bad. It's nice that there's at least one chinese tester not conforming to the 'i'm going to do tests which test metrics no one should care about' meta

[fallen pecan]

this is one of the older bilis that went into hiatus so i was a bit surprised when he came back

https://streamable.com/px3ow8 this is him testing the huntsman v3 pro

[glacial wind]

i'm actually surprised wooting did so well considering they don't allow the super low settings

[sacred elm]

have to learn chinese to watch those tests

[glacial wind]

but wooting has always been great with optimizing input latency stuff so I guess i shouldn't be that surprised

[fallen pecan]

ye woot is on top of the latency stuff

[glacial wind]

they did say on stream simon is making lots of progress on his performance package updates, so maybe shf gets his switch selector and 0.1 settings in next big update

[fallen pecan]

just tldr and read the chart

[glacial wind]

maybe we can ask this chinese tester what sony camera and lens he uses for shafie

[fringe quarry]

wow venom not even on the list, i gotta sell immediately

this is costing me such much ranked progress

[glacial wind]

i wonder if he even has a venom

they really don't seem to buy venoms much in china

[fallen pecan]

very niche board, basically nonexistant

here's the 80he test: https://streamable.com/i56xf4

[sacred elm]

nah

no wuque flux option

🥀

[glacial wind]

good guy simon, saving you from random bad tolerance magnets

[sacred elm]

have to beg simon to add fluxes there

[glacial wind]

we should first make sure simon records his testing into a visual journal using a solid sony camera and lens setup

[sacred elm]

yeah i think simon needs good camera lens recommendations

[glacial wind]

simon everyone

you'll be happy to know that ryda.com.au is once again running a flash sale on the 24-70 gm ii lens, if you book a flight to australia in about 6 weeks you should be able to collect your lens for a mere $1200 USD + flight tickets and accommodation https://www.ryda.com.au/sony-fe-24-70mm-f2-8-gm-ii-lens

[sacred elm]

affordable

[glacial wind]

at those prices you'd be losing money not buying

[fringe quarry]

not too bad for mid tier

[glacial wind]

that's aud price, so it's probably the lowest price ever for a 24-70 gm ii new

i still have no idea why this particular lens goes on massive sales in australia only

[fringe quarry]

australians got good taste

i mean who really wants to be limited to f2.8

[glacial wind]

swapping between a bunch of primes is too annoying for run and gun stuff

[fringe quarry]

its worth it

could basically just use your phone if you want such a lens

[glacial wind]

too time consuming for on the go content for youtube

[fringe quarry]

you gotta take your time for good results

[glacial wind]

i'm only running a 2 lens setup for youtube stuff, bringing a whole bunch of primes and swapping constantly not worth unless you're doing brand ads or professional video shoots

[fringe quarry]

or do you hate your viewers

[glacial wind]

i hate my viewers

[fringe quarry]

i see then

go for it

[glacial wind]

in fact if anyone asks for that i'll perm ban them

have to send a message to keep them in line

[fringe quarry]

im not even watching creators that shoot on spherical lenses anymore

[tidal frigate]

@sacred elm are you getting owlab case?

[sacred elm]

no

[glacial wind]

Shf doesn’t wake up to spend anything less than $1k. It’s why he exclusively only buys native g or gm Sony lenses

[storm axle]

anybody know a specific online store in asia that i can custom order a plate in?

i tried ordering from ali but they sent me a plate that is cut for plate mounted stabs

[untold wigeon]

please tag me as well🙏

[split owl]

I bought Wooting. I want to replace the stabilizer and switch, can I get a warranty in the future even if I replace it? I wonder if it's not guaranteed right away if it's disassembled like a keyboard from other companies

[glacial wind]

yes you can, assuming you don't break something while changing things

[chilly mural]

mmm, rakka fast

[split owl]

For example, do you mean a PCB sensor or a device??

[glacial wind]

i mean as in just don't break your pcb in half or pull off chips on it etc

if you just replace the stab and switches like normal and don't break something somehow then you're covered under warranty still

you're allowed to do basic mods like that under the wooting warranty

[split owl]

Thank you very much for your kind reply!!

[fallen pecan]

new list, added rog ace hfx

[calm pulsar]

is rakka80 a tkl?👀

[crimson sky]

yea

[crimson sky]

btw

[crimson sky]

apparently tecsee (manufacturers of those topre-HE switch thingies) has a more tactile version for sale

which apparently feels quite decent

I also suspect you could use BKE domes but those are sadly hard to come by

[uneven cradle]

Yeah think it's this one https://x.com/fafa_imoshi/status/1902007279161053284?t=4Hw4GX8SOzqMyQWnHppc3A&s=19

ふぁいもし／Imoshi (@fafa_imoshi) on X

AEboards Raeds HEを作っているTecseeから磁気スイッチが。

X · Mar 18, 2025, 2:40 PM

[calm pulsar]

Raekker

[crimson sky]

yea they have a "linear" version that is just like AEboards Raeds HE and a "tactile" version with more tactility

[tawdry tree]

Any info on testing method (nvm) and actuation points used? What does this Wooting80 “General” and “FTL” mean?

[little glen]

Maybe tachyon mode?

[glacial wind]

yeah it's tachyon mode vs no tachyon

[tawdry tree]

Yeah but a 5-10x performance increase is insane

Doesn’t really make sense

[glacial wind]

it’s not a raw latency check based on his rig, so it’s possible tachyon mode helped with other factors that were slowing down the input latency

[wispy fable]

rakka & venom fw are almost the same right?

[tawdry tree]

nobody seems to test without tachyon mode

nearly 5ms is a whole lot more than 1 ms

[glacial wind]

Yeah but again his test isn’t a raw just latency from usb test

So it could easily be some setting or something else not optimized in his non tachyon mode setup

[tawdry tree]

Originally iirc but not anymore

[wispy fable]

so rakka's fw better now?

[tawdry tree]

possible, though 5ms is too much

[tawdry tree]

firmware or software

or latency

[wispy fable]

fw, iirc old rakka's fw is ass

[tawdry tree]

latency has always been pretty good

and calibration too

so idk

[wispy fable]

and that's one of the reason geon changed to their own fw / software

[calm pulsar]

the rakka 80 page looks kinda nice, talking about visual presentation lol

[wispy fable]

old rakka's has a jumping graph (i forgot what was it)

[wispy fable]

true

[tawdry tree]

doubt it’s cause of that

[tawdry tree]

whole website is nice

with good info too

[glacial wind]

latency test is different to firmware test so that test doesn't really say anything about if usage is good/bad

iirc jabberwock or some other folks were talking about rakka60 having some firmware issues though in china, not sure if it was already fixed or not

[fallen pecan]

the rakka80 has had some ghost inputs, might still have it, so best to avoid

[untold wigeon]

is there any pro esports player using venom?
i just want to know for fun

[glacial wind]

meteor uses a venom at his home setup (or has a venom at least), although he prefers wooting for his comp setup

[tawdry tree]

Gateron’s POMs are dual rail it seems.. 🤮

[untold wigeon]

build by eyejoker right?

[glacial wind]

yeah

[safe stag]

nooooooooooooooooo....

[untold wigeon]

nooooooo

[untold wigeon]

NOOOOO

[tawdry tree]

Gateron has a thing for self nerfing

[untold wigeon]

i was gonna say that was the best invention & they should patent it

[glossy pagoda]

Gateron does love their patents

[untold wigeon]

maybe next 60% pcb HE patent?

then keyboard patent?

[tropic urchin]

Those switches are horrific looking

[trail bane]

Looks like leobog reapers

[tropic urchin]

After all these patents, Gateron really is allergic to improvement

[untold wigeon]

ngl true

[trail bane]

Nvm, still my top 5 he switches is: || 0. Outemu Pink(Goated price and they works, just works)||

1. KOM POM/white SNK
2. KOM/KOM green SNK
3. Owlab ti
4. TTC Uranus(all variations)
5. RAW/ Fluxes(just because overpriced)

[calm pulsar]

why do people act like they were expecting something from lateron

[trail bane]

Xd

[tropic urchin]

getting into the hobby is thinking jades are good, you wind up enlightened once you become aligner of hatred

[calm pulsar]

I remember the times when there were no jades even

[tropic urchin]

the horror

[calm pulsar]

and I hated the switches so much and dreamed of closed bottom

[tropic urchin]

im glad i was still using my hyperx keeb in those days

[trail bane]

Currently best stabs for 80HE?:
❤️Typeplus YiKB
🩷Swagkeys Knight v2
💜Swagkeys Knight v3
👀 Others (write them out)

[tropic urchin]

wtf is the difference between pink and purple lmao

both v2

[trail bane]

Nvm

[tropic urchin]

unless 1 is long pole

[fallen pecan]

also designer studio stabs if you can get them cheap

[trail bane]

Just want some fine stabs The price isn’t that important, the main thing is that shipping to fkng Poland doesn’t cost more than 20 bucks.

20 bucks for stabs and same or twice more for shipping is crazy

[calm pulsar]

or just tune stock stabs

[fallen pecan]

i'm seeing free shipping to poland on aliexpress

[trail bane]

I’m tried already

[trail bane]

I did everything, but they still tick, it’s annoying.

[calm pulsar]

well gl with 3rd party stabs cause they will need to be tuned as well, with some being eaiser to tune

the stock gateron stabs are not an old design and are generally decent

[trail bane]

Or maybe I should’ve finished with the switches first and replaced the remaining L45s with something clearly better

[thorn zealot]

Idk maybe cuz ur stabs sound bone dry

And also since they are prebuilt stabs

They are prob not tuned and wires aren’t straight

[split owl]

Can I set the input point to the same as the default lekker v2 when using the owlab ti switch??

[sour blade]

meteor of valorant

[tawdry tree]

Yep

It works like % rather than actual mm though. So if you set Tis to 4mm, they’ll actuate at their bottom out (like 3.5 iirc)

[split owl]

i dont understand …TT

[tawdry tree]

it’s fine, that you can communicate in english is an achievement enough orca.

[split owl]

i have papago ^0^

[tawdry tree]

Lekker you can set to 4mm and it’ll actually actuate at 4mm. Tis have a shorter travel so when you set them to 4mm, it’ll be 3.5mm in reality.

[split owl]

Then, should I set it by dividing it into 3.5 percentages for 4? For example, when lekker is 1.6mm, tis about 1.4mm??

[tawdry tree]

Total travel distance (3.5mm) divided by 40 steps = 0.0875mm per mm shown in Wootility.

So 0.1mm on Lekkers is 0.0875mm on Tis.

Makes sense?

[split owl]

Thank you and I can't wait for the Switch selector to be updated!!

[half sparrow]

I can feel and see the white lube on them

[ruby hill]

I don’t think there are any stabs better than YiKB on the market currently

The only downside is the price

[storm axle]

which is better the designer studio plate mounted stabs or the screw in YiKB stabs?

[glacial wind]

both are good/great

with the good stab options it's hard to say any one of them is better than another

[lone meteor]

Now I probably sound really stupid but do I keep that foam inside of the metal sponge or do I remove it.
This is for the optimum case

[glacial wind]

keep it - it's there to ground the keyboard

[lone meteor]

and i just press the module down until i can connect the usb c

[storm axle]

what is the stock case foam of the 80he made out of

[glacial wind]

yeah - follow the assembly video to be safe

[lone meteor]

i am, just got kinda confused on that

thank you

[fallen pecan]

epdm

[thorn zealot]

Then u should check if the wires are straightened

I highly doubt spacebar foam will fix that sound

[half sparrow]

What do you mean by wires

[tropic urchin]

The metal wires that connect the 2 stabilizers together

[fallen pecan]

this

[half sparrow]

Oh

I think it is straight

I took it out a few times before to try and fix the noise and it didn’t work

[stray tiger]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[trail bane]

Crazy shit

Predicted

[chilly mural]

damn

[chilly mural]

to the US right?

[trail bane]

Polandia 😹

[chilly mural]

oh

DAMN

soo bad

[tidal frigate]

Those prices are normal for shipping

[thorn zealot]

fellas which back weight

copper or mirror silver

[chilly mural]

Copper makes it looks like an engine, silver makes it looks like a vanity

I do silver if I just want to display the board

[ionic breach]

copper but only if ur doing copper bottom as well

[little glen]

what site are you ordering from

🤨

[trail bane]

Swagkeys, mechanicalkeyboards, omnitype, candykeys. Everywhere shipping cost 2x of stabs price

[little glen]

first 3 are not eu

try oblotzky and deltakeyco

maybe maxgaming

[trail bane]

Out of stock💔

[little glen]

not interested in yikb ones at all?

[trail bane]

Well, I’ll probably have to get them, but I’d still prefer the Knights.

[thorn zealot]

they both good

[trail bane]

Prefer

[thorn zealot]

i mean they both just stabs

[little glen]

i was honestly expecting knight to be in stock at deltakeycp

co

i got both my knight v2 sets there

[kindred lagoon]

Are the YIKB stabs available to you from Oblotzky? Been using them for a little bit now on my 80HE and they're just about perfect.

Might be a better deal.

Oh, sorry, I hadn't read the whole conversation.

[trail bane]

Idk i’ll buy them on ali

[little glen]

i have 2 sets of yikb stabs, need something to do with them tho

[chilly mural]

venom MX

or like give them to your friend

[little glen]

thinking about like

neo65cu

[glacial wind]

whelp that lasted like a day and a half for all 80he stock at geon kr to sell out

[little glen]

[chilly mural]

how much 80he is there?

[tidal frigate]

Wait geon sells wooting?

[glacial wind]

same price as wooting store, but no shipping fee or import charge to korea

[thorn zealot]

💀

[ionic breach]

reasonable assumption

[ornate quest]

not everybody is into DIY

[thorn zealot]

the replies are so funny

[ionic breach]

got a link?

i wanna see them lmao

[thorn zealot]

https://youtu.be/WEfp9ZBG-YE?si=YkqSdKVEbdF71GtA

[ionic breach]

its on the neo? rip

good guy tho it seems

a few good explanations as well

[thorn zealot]

yeah

idk why they even watching that kb vid if they are new

[ionic breach]

oh my what a bowl

[sweet oak]

Top hat upside down

[ionic breach]

it funky

[thorn zealot]

nice and all

but doesnt compare to bowl bowl from bowl

[glacial wind]

very cinematic, he must have a good sony lens

[little glen]

do you think shafie would be interested?

[glacial wind]

i'd have to personally ask mr wabi sabi to see if he can make a video explaining his video gear to shafie

[polar girder]

Faxxxx

(I don’t do photography. I just know Sony lens is the best obvi)

[crimson sky]

possibly whiplash for cheap stabs in EU

but I am unsure how decent they are

they offer cherry stabs with a balanced spacebar wire for quite cheap

[main mason]

recommendatiosn for a good black silent space bar for wooting 80he?

the space bar i have rn is just very loud

[little glen]

get spacebar foam

[main mason]

suggestions on where i can get some?

[little glen]

kbdfans

[main mason]

also im looking for quality (double shot pbt or ceramic) cherry profile keycaps with smooth edges, i would apprecaite any recommendations. i would them to be WOB. i also dont want plain WOB mayube something thats a bit different

[main mason]

do they have a pack where its foam for all the keycaps that are on stabs, so the etner key, the shift keys, the backspace, etc..

[thorn zealot]

pbt ceramic keycaps?

[main mason]

sorry just edited*

pbt or ceramic

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/phone-smartphone-checking-gif-3543227

[main mason]

not sure which one to go with tbh

[harsh dove]

Protagonist out for delivery

[thorn zealot]

finally

[thorn zealot]

depends on the sound u want

[main mason]

what offers what

[thorn zealot]

they both give a deeper sound than like abs keycaps (gmk)

ceramic is deeper than pbt

[main mason]

hmm

[thorn zealot]

if u want ceramic keycaps get em from cerakeys

[main mason]

i need to listen to some sound tests and decide

[thorn zealot]

pbt just look for webs in ur region https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[main mason]

i just want it to be an annoying clacking sound

i wnat it be a very very deep pleasent sound

more thocc, less clack ig

[thorn zealot]

annoying is a very strong and mean word

jk ik preference

[main mason]

lol

ill send a sound test of what i find annoying

[thorn zealot]

personally thats not clack

thats like office membrane kb from 1998

[main mason]

lmfao

yea i wnat less of this

and more deeper thoccer pleasent sound

but not sharp and annoying

and not too loud

this is like a high pitched sound ig

i want lower pitched

so ceramic?

or double shot pbt

[thorn zealot]

if u rly want the deepest sound then ceramic

but u will need heavier springs to compensate the heavier keycaps

[main mason]

O

[thorn zealot]

its more like chatter and opposite of clean

than high pitch

[main mason]

i have mathews silent switches rn

so i wud need to replace all the springs?

😵‍💫

thats a lot of work lol

[thorn zealot]

if they are like less than 50g

yes

[main mason]

they wont be able to hold the weight of the keycap?

[main mason]

how can i check the weight of the springs for my swtches

[thorn zealot]

go to the web page of where u got em

it should say it somewhere there

[main mason]

i got it form ali express

https://www.keebzncables.com/products/mathew-silent-hall-effect-he-magnetic-switch

i found this

it says 45+-5gf

[thorn zealot]

yeah u gon need heavier springs