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not to mention losing their legs
Im stunned that they would release such an expensive switch without basic QC
Im happy I was waiting for Flux results
So I got sneks instead
That's why I asked which boards. Was wondering if it's a QC issue or if the boards just have shit sensors
Im pretty sure its QC, not sure on the boards but double check with @sacred elm
but there was even cope from a wuque rep that wooting would make adjustments in their software for their sh*tty QC 
even if you gave me the fluxes for free, I would throw or give them away
couldnt sell something I know is Sh*t
Iâm more surprised they performed barely above average for physical wobble test
I expected a bit more there considering that was the big selling point of the entire new design
I couldnt say as I never tried one myself
some people said they were noticeably more stable than the ttc box stems
but I wouldnt decide until I had them right in front of me
thankfully I matrix dodged the qc nightmare
I mean in theramins test. He checks the actual physical movement in his reviews
His conclusion at end of review is pretty funny. Matches up to what we all said in that the pricing makes the switches go from pretty interesting switch to âno chance in hellâ
add on top of the price point are the QC issues which now makes them toxic, they have negative value to me
ie you would need to pay me to use them lol
springs not fully demag, magnets with random QC lol
I mean how many bad things have to come out for people to recognize the wuque flux is an epic fail
if they werent $200 nobody would care
The only decent thing about them is the new design but even then they are not that different apparently...
I think the design probably attributes to their smooth feel that he noted, which is cool except that no one outside of these specialized discords is paying $2 a switch just for that
I think its likely the optimal design
horrendous implementation
If ttc could make an octagonal pom, GG
checkmate
Ah yes I too am visiting from abroad on my very extended Korea stay
I mentioned this the week I got them. They are a solid feeling and sounding switch but I thought the wobble was better on the TI's. Then I was told it's not possible because the TI's use a non-box stem.
Tee hees on top
Ah yes Box Stem Tee Hee are best switch no debate, got it 
This part cracked me up because it matches exactly how I feel about these switches. Just a masterclass in marketing the wrong way and pricing the wrong way:
âFor all of the thought and planning that clearly went into the design, development, and execution of these switches, oh holy shit did they really miss the mark when it comes to the pricing and sales pitch of these switches and theyâre resultingly now poised to be the masterclass in how to not sell perfectly marketable switches.â
He hasnt posted the stream schedule for this week yet. I'm guessing tomorrow


poms are goated i can confirm
personally rawhuk on top for sound
press feel wise tee hee is the best out of the ones I have
Found a snake in my yard today
I didn't say which boards had issues, as I wasn't shown them personally. Of my boards that I tested, only the Rakka H60 presented that issue. All the complaints are noted, but my experience with them hasn't really changed.
It is new molds. New manu, new molds, new design, pretty much new everything. There is a new batch of switches in, but I'm hoping to get the fluxes revised before next batch gets made
Is there any switch thats an upgrade from Geon Raw HE? I have these currently
owlabs ti he been popular as the 'upgrade' to them. Kind of like a fully closed bottom, tighter/smoother raw he
grab some owlab tihe
raws have a few niche-r issues, but tihe are priced about the same and just appears to be a generational upgrade
Ok thanks ill look at those
Iâm not really familiar with his reviews. How does he measure the wobble?
he measures them physically
i don't know if he lists the values somewhere in his giant database of data
Has he ever posted his method? Nothing pops up when I search for it.
Would be interesting to know
i'm sure it's somewhere in his giant piles of data and reviews, but it's a bit of a pain to navigate through his stufflol
Yeah haha, quite lengthy reviews
Ayooo this is POM time
That makes little to no sense. What is 5 extra switches gonna do? đ
You get 40 instead of 35?
75 instead of 70

ah nvm, I think itâs just a discount
I think sođ
Why are all TTCâs switch names so long lmfao
âTTC Commander King Magnetic Switch, Firm Dust-proof Stem Linear Freely Setting Pre-Travel for Magnetic Gaming Keyboardâ
Or 80 +5 covers your wooting 80he
gotta be the first search result for anything ig
if only they had a listing for 80 đ
true dat
the best part is there's no rhyme or reason for half of these new ttc variations
it's like they just decided "why don't we make another kom but with this new housing, but with this random color, this random magnet variant and this random spring length and we'll make none of these new switches an actual improvement over the previous koms"
âIf they look different then they are different.â the whole recolor business đ
TTC selling a recolor of the same switch to melgeek and madlions
Lord of war but instead of guns itâs switches đ„°
whats akko flash
new akko switch
recolour for madlions
not melgeek
no info about then yet afaik
oh okay
lmk when u get more info
tai a is a combination of 2 switches
wouldnt say recolour exactly
though some of the others are recolours and idk what they are doing lol
isok we are confused too
i want to see innovation
we need a recolor leaderboard
outemu would be number 1 prob
okay I just want to clarify the following were issues with the flux switches:
- brittle bottom housing blend led to legs coming off
- magnet strength needs tighter qc
- tolerances need to be improved
- longer springs
- price. nuff said
the design team is cooked fr
they're 'technically' new i guess because some of them use the new housing rail system that's supposedly better, but they used worse magnet for whatever reason so their overall stability stays same lol
if they were more stable than TTCâs at the same price point ish, itâd be good
there was nothing else that I missed yea?
yeah idk what they are doing
they lowkey trolling
sometimes difficult to remove
havenât had any issues myself yet, so not afaik.
get stronger
kailh style but idt it matters since not everyone is opening it
skill issue
ima be real with you
you dont need to open it
the prelube is great
nah not that, i was talking about the prongs? idk what its called
its higher than other switches
the pulley thingy
one thing I donât get about the Fluxes, is that it seems the pole doesnât help stability at all but still they didnât got with a shorter pole.
so it takes more effort than others
Make them pom?
hmm, latches? I havenât had any difficulty pulling them
i think its called the latches idk
most switches are closer to the plate
this one is higher
nylon and 4mm travel đ„đ„
cant pull out as easily without worrying about breaking it
Hey I just bought the wooting 60 he+ module and I'm looking to install it in a custom tofu60 redux case. I got an fr4 ansi plate from kbdfans and I managed to swap it out with the pc plate on the module. I can't reinstall the screws though because the fr4 plate doesn't have screw holes is that normal?
in a less tight plate its not as bad
no screw holes at all?!
send a picture if you can, Iâm not sure what you mean exactly
no screw holes??
Nah it's like, the original plate has the little protrusion to allow the screws to screw in but the fr4 ansi plate i have doesn't have that same protrusion
So basically the screws have nothing to latch into
oh, there should be a standoff kit
thatâs if you got the FR4 plate specifically for Wooting
So i have to install the standoff first
yeah
you screw the standoffs on
be sure to use the flat hat screws for the plate
theyâre countersunk iirc
yeah u need standoffs first
Which keycaps are compatible with the 60HE?
lmao okay this cracked me up: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lbj7XyJGLag
they really taken pokemon card gambling to actual gambling levels
i remember people used to do this in WoW and Everquest too. Ran their own casinos rolling dice and make absurd amounts of in game currency because people throw money at casinos
@honest nacelle check twitter
https://x.com/kailhswitch/status/1916767848858333397 Havenât seen a switch as gorgeous as these ones. đ„Č
aliexpress for really bedget stuff (exact same shit thatâs on amazon but cheaper). if ur budget is like âŹ85, you could check deltakeyco or keygem
Anything new?
Appreciate it
finding azerty keycaps do be difficult
oh yeah, for sure
good luck lmao
prob only a few sets on ali
doubt delta or keygem have any
especially iso french
HAHA
is it okay quality?
some are, some arenât
you can check the reviews on ali
alright
this is almost impossible to find though
basically anything not ansi or iso is hard, then french and spanish are the hardest iirc
well
doesn't have to be french honestly
just azerty iso
french iso is just what I have atm
Deltakeyco is french so maybe they have something
But i would not count on it
You could get the pbtfans one
where could I find those
Azerty iso is french iso
ohh
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Comments from my buddy doing me a solid
"Already seeing differences
Top housing is different, instead of the rails being on the bottom housing, it's on the top
These also seem to be a bit smoother??? But same time, it is also not pre-lubedđ"
Compared to magneto poms
Interesting
fuck whered it go
oh if u wanted to know what was diff:
- rail system was changed to come from the top housing, instead of bottom housing
- (alledgedly) the prelube process was changed to not be dumb as fuck
- tolerances improved
Ty, thought it was just the magnet flux and superficial design
i swear it's the 3rd time we've told you the rail system changed lol
not that it actually matters though because the gains are so minimal at the tolerances we're talking about
yep
Yo guys do you think the rails changed?
literally at the point of schizo numbers
I heard someone say it but iâm not sure
apparently ttc have new switches coming out with the same mold but cheaper plastics so we should see some cool stuff coming out at more affortable prices
no, I don't know when
yes, they will be cheaper
Ill be the placebo judge of that
and tbf the main reason the snakes are so expensive is partly due to manu cost
Glass infused bottom when
Glass + cf infused bottom
Could you elaborate?
some plastics are more expensive than others???
idk what you're confused about
snakes or just ttcs?
Yes
plastic cost is outright different
nylon for eg is more expnesive than abs
but processes and cost to manu differ depending on material
snakes are a limited edition version of ttc koms no?
You said manufacturing process not material
Hence the Q
all of the above
manu process is affected by material
not to mention outright material cost
kinda but also not really
Cant wait for the full PET switch
they do the 'year of the x' edition every year but they're not technically limited for certain sku
although they may stop making them eventually but they're not really 'limited'
They are also improved but some say minimal
I will see how they placebo max
oh i thought d is saying snakes cost more to manu than ttc koms
no - snake are a diff mold altogether
the ttc snake may be limited
but the mold will not be
ttc snake is probs only going to be sold this year
it depends on what you mean by 'version' of the ttc koms is why you're getting multiple different answers
ie: year of the snake
they moved the rail to the top housing instead of bottom housing for the snakes, but kept the rest the same basically. So whether you want to call it a limited edition kom or not depends on what you're asking
it is a special 'year of the x' edition, but only the numbered versions are really limited, but even those i'm not even sure if they're fully limited or not
it could even be that they only limit just the special edition bundles
puts it ~on par with pom but at like half the price
sounds like normal kom tho
but doesn't have the ??? lube job
well yes and no, if you look at their stability stuff it actually got worse then the poms/rgb
so they moved to the new rail system but used the older less tight tolerance magnets for some reason
stability how
in flux tolerances? or in actual physical stability
in whatever their own measurements are for their magnetic flux
btw - ttc have 3 different rail systems currently active
OG KOM/POM, camo with a like channel in the middle of the rail, and snake with top mount rail
their bottom out flux on the new commando stuff is actually worse than the pom/rgb stuff
yea still don't see how the flux tolerances matter
(unless its like the flux, where its just ???)
it doesn't outside of comparing just raw stability between the ttc variants
if the flux doesn't overload the sensor, then whats the point in caring
which is what asdasmos is interest in
1st pic ttc commander, 2nd pic ttc tai er
we've already told him that the flux amounts don't matter at the precision levels we're talking about already, but he wants the lowest flux amounts anyway
commander is basically a uranus recolor, tai er has the white snek rail
yeah ttc be doing weird stuff. A lot of sidegrades to old switches
...but lower flux doesn't matter...?
like at all?
or am i tweaking and not understanding
you're not quite understanding i think
we're not talking about realistic usage of it. he just wants to know their actual stability differences even if they're pointlessly small
any moderately competent implementation sorts out flux variance (to a degree, again)
yea but the flux tolerances don't equal anything for physical stability?
they do and don't
we're not talking raw physical stability here. I'm not sure what you're talking about
because he's obsessed with min/maxing pointless flux gains
he's being literal when he's saying he's placebo maxing
ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
i hear arkham has openings for new inmates
i mean to each their own. He knows it's pointless but if he wants to spend his money chasing 0.004 or whatever levels of flux stability then he can do it

Plus they look nice with my build
The tardation will be complete when the sneks are connected to the silver cf snake skin
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Cue Chappelle's Show - The Playa Haters' Ball
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isnt it tai'e
Sup , if I order the GT-80 without ordering extras , they will come with gold badges?
pick the gold badge version
itâs not a flux difference from one switch to another but how much it can fluctuate in a single switch; the wobble. though, for gateronâs earlier switches, they did state the flux variation from one switch to another just like springs.
They donât have ((
depends on the color, i think white and silver comes with gold badges
or maybe silver with black
not sure
đđ thanks
Dang, bcz I want the silver and with gold badges looks sick
that is not what the stated flux variance is
that is the differnce between magnet strength between units
idk where you got the assumption that it correlates with physical wobble from, but its wrong
measured from the sensor position. if the stem (and magnet) tilts, thereâs a variation in flux
at least for TTC (I think they stated that themselves) thatâs how they list flux variation
at top out thereâs a min/max reading and at bottom out
@glacial wind I half remember ttc stating this somewhere but canât find it
was it in a listing or something?
This was my understanding too
Yeah ttc does imply that it correlates to overall stability (not just physical but the overall stability)
Itâs listed on their ttc snake page as the stability gains vs pom due to flux reduction
Doesnt this make sense though?
if there is wobble or tilt, magnet moves....
Iâma ask TTC, I thought they stated it but if they just imply it, it isnât enough. Thereâs a very big difference in flux variance from switch to switch and flux variance from a single switch. the latter would indicate the physical wobble while the first doesnât indicate stability (on most boards) at all.
you can measure wobble like that but if they actually do is the question. the exact same numbers can mean two very different things đ
Im happy either way
Maybe d is confusing just general flux with flux variance
And he thinks youâre talking about just general flux start and end
Because the +- variance has been shown to have some relation to final stability
Flux 2.0, the legs are pre broken for you to save time
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Dang
If the variance from one switch to another is meant, it shouldnât have any noticeable effect on stability whatsoever (for most boards). I donât know how that came to be though if it is the case.
sexy but for the price it looks kinda basic no?
oh maybe cause of steel
yeah i've never heard of it as the variance from one switch to the next unless he's talking about the actual full flux amounts like 95 to 480 or similar numbers
but that's totally different to the flux variance at bottom and top that's specifically mentioned by ttc and other manus
It's literally listed as accuracy improvement by ttc themselves
for @quasi hinge since he was asking about it on the ttc marketing before
are jade rubies any good or are they flavor of the month?
from the research ive done so far Owlab TI are best for sound and TTC POM are best for stability
jade rubies are just jade pro with very slight material change
owlab ti and ttc pom are indeed the current popular recommendations for those 2 areas
thanks reply
technically there's ttc snake which are better versions of the poms as you can see in the discussion above, but they're not generally recommended because the improvement isn't noticable and the price is way higher
basically the ttc pom reach the point of diminishing returns for accuracy gains and paying that extra $50 or whatever is a huge waste of money
not every board has to look like a matrix board
it has nice HG sides and a fat weight, and the steel then drives up price
if the top part was anodized alu it would prob be like 350
âBy reducing the tolerance of the magnetic flux of the magnet-â they can mean whatever atp, Iâll just wait for their reply.
yeah makes sense.
steel is more expensive to machine right?
ye exactly
I would prefer if the top was 2 parts so you could do all mounts on all layouts
i'm actually curious to know how much of the increased cost of the snakes is this magnet improvement and how much is just them tacking on extra price
but i guess that's one thing that would never be made public
for whatever reason they've seemingly not used this better magnet in any other switch since
would drastically increase the compatible PCBs as well but guess itâd also be even more expensive đ
I do like the look a lot
most likely not :(
if you want blockers I mean
wk prob compatible with a lot of pcbs
yea
2.4million scan đ„đ„
i mean why not as this stage
just start saying 1 billion for the next version
they can be like trump tariffs, just randomly increase the stated number constantly
PCB has to look good, cmon now
of course!
Oh hell nah đ
i was about to post this, wtf is thisđ đ
you know we haven't seen many HE keyboards advertise AI yet
will MM studio be the first to introduce an AI enhanced keyboard
Rakkaâs developer said that the TMR sensors he tested were 10 times worse in terms of latency and the tests donât show this because they short the sensor (so sensor latency isnât measured).
who the fuck needs mitutoyo when we got MM Studio with 0.0001mm accuracy
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aligner ping me when they release two quintillion scan rate
before that im gonna skip

cant wait to see the latency test
their software look like complete shit
Specs sound promising, imma have to wait for the migss review before i buy tho. Wonder if this could be the next wooting killer?
/s
i can't wait for someone to claim they have 0.00005 precision rapid trigger, then for someone else to look it up and inform them that this level of precision is smaller than the actual covid virus that we can't see with our eyes
It's a lot cheaper to make a marketing graphic than a keyboard
yea because i dont think you can have more than 8k polling
Soon they'll only make the graphics, keyboard can come later
technically you can push it to 16khz by not doing polling and instead usb3 interrupt
yeh, I wanna see that
soo 32khz polling through usb4???
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no
aww
They looks nice and match my build
I know im overpaying for what may be no difference
People buy keycaps for 100$ plus all the time and nobody questions them
have you tried them yet or nah
Buddy lubing them

let me know how they are
let me guess, they will feel exactly the same as regular poms

Ill be honest, if they are the same or worse ill tell it like it is
No more red corners like @tropic urchin mentioned
But all the greatness of pom
meanwhile međ„
Did the offer some recourse?
the important part is you keep aside at least $800 usd for the restock of the 16mm f1.8 sony fe lens
sno just waiting on the camera stuff
Hey sno, how much is a camera compared to sneks lol
nah i forgot about it actually, i havent noticed anything yet so im gonna use them still, because they feel great. if I notice any issues on wooting im gonna swap back to poms
that lens is a mere 5x sets of snakes
I need a clean conscience
I hate those red corners with all my heart
Tinted RGB and red corners đ„
actually sad that those issues exist, even tho they arent noticeable. the switch itself feels so nice
they did get a good score for feel at least
that was what theremin mentioned before he tore into them for everything else lol
After D said this, id throw my wuques in the trash
Just being honest
Like buying a fast car but the engine may or may work properly at high speeds
Maybe its fine, maybe not
In that case it would be recalled first before anything bad happens
they're delighted that customers are paying $2 a switch to beta test for them
I was almost one of them
Thats why I feel @sacred elm âs pain
Travesty
As long as they replace them with new ones given their QC idc really, but if not then WS will be on my boycott list
they refused shafies request he said
and he's the one guy here who can actually complain because he didn't get them for free or use discount code on them
Im not buying wuque in solidarity of shafie
it's such a pity because for feel purposes I could see myself recommending them with the issues fixed at $1 a switch
they just needed sane pricing
They refused shafies request
At least Gateron refunded me on the Maxs
Their respect level went up
And that was just for scratchiness
Together apes strong
Yeah, even if they release 2.0, screw em
Unreliable in the darkest hour
yea D said they wont do replacements because of massive costs and a lot of work for "no particular reason", i guess this isnt enough https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1366412703140286598/IMG_8624.png?ex=6810da7f&is=680f88ff&hm=a93540458ede8b22e5de113b9225925718effedec2412881abb3153757336c5e&
Thatâs fucked up
Lekker v2 l45 vs Geon Raw. which would yall suggest
owlab ti he
tee hee
Marbly clack church in shambles
i ordered a few more owlab ti he to go with my 1 single switch so I can do a proper recording of them lol
that is so sad
im getting the optimum keycaps so might as well get the switches from there too
Iâll probably still use them up until they start acting up
But no replacements for absurd pricing is quite frankly real clown shit
Shameless cash grab
Itâs not like weâre asking for a refund to spend it elsewhere, we just want the shit they advertised lmao
Maybe they should have allocated a few of those free packs they sent out to everyone who asked
Except apparently Shafie 
that list is missing the 'some springs were not fully non magnetic' bit too
yea same
I also ordered 5 flux switches to test from aliexpress....
thats why theres no spring ping or some weird sound
I still love the design, but youâre hanging your customers who paid shouldnât have paid retail the least you could do is make sure theyâre happy
Fuck the free samples shit
100%
This is why we canât have nice things anymore
Add insult to injury, they were passing them out to everyone like free needles
You should add your title as the White Snake Sage
never getting anything from new manus
reasonable crash out
Well with China not shipping to US you wonât have to now
how did they manage to have those issues, the most obvious ones
I guess I have to throw away my WS switch puller
Not releasing them in china first was kinda suspicious to me tbh
As if they knew their first batch was ass
Frame it and look at it every time you want to do something questionable
I like my other Wuque stuff but Iâve always known they had issues with things like customer service and such lol
gonna say this again that this is just so sad because they feel way better than any of other switches ive tried, even poms
blunder
Even back when I was ordering my zoom75 awhile back now people were ordering them from vendors and not direct from meletrix because of their issues with support
Maybe I shouldnât ask manus for any updates
Theoretically if I never asked this wouldnât have come out đ€Ł
placebo obliterated in my head, thank youđ€Ź
Itâs always been a bit of a shame because they are legitimately really good at some stuff. Like their basic doubleshot keycaps are some of the best budget keycaps when on sale, their switch puller is also goated
âWhen are we getting long springs?âŠ.â ugh the switch is a failure and will self destruct..â HUH??
I lost an entire group buy on the jris80 to mykeyclub
rip
I understand the pain
Got rug pulled
LMAO
The weird part is I have absolutely 0 issues despite their background fiasco
i played marvel rivals for 9 hours straight yesterday, day was ruined. thank you varedis for asking d about long springs
On the positive side tho, pretty much all issues can be easily fixed or bypassed, like not pulling the switches for the legs or replacing the springs with ones they plan on releasing
The real issue is that magnet strength thingy, thats truly fked up
i havent noticed any issues at all but yeah, you cant do anything about magnets
unless they send replacement stems or something (not happening)
Maybe thatâs why ttc have their mascot as âmagneto but legally not magnetoâ
He has control over magnets
im about to put pom magnets in flux
That was Wuques real mistake
worlds greatest switch
Maybe someone needs iceman. According to lore heâs actually stronger than magneto and creates ice by changing subatomic particles
Should have been the iceman switch

Gateron releasing a jade pro iceman edition as we speak
A wise move. They must have watched that YouTube video on icemanâs true abilities
gateron đ
Potemkin Iceman
Switch trauma dump moment
ttc snake or the tee hee
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Non boxstem switches are fake news now
yes
Maybe shafie needs to start small. Buy the excellent new bc-zd1 dual battery charger for Sony fz100 batteries for a mere $120 and it will be a reminder of all the other gear you need to go with it
Might as well buy flux V2s
forget
Will get more mileage out of them than c*mera gear đ€ą
Alright enjoy your $2k Sony lens king đ„ł
c*mera is crazy
Left ear wooting right ear venom. So i know which hand is lacking
They have some nice wool style jackets though. Maybe you could consider those
I heard the trend is called sherpa jackets
i actually have something like that

g502 and sp004 is some weirdest combo ever
Some day I switch the mouse
Huh?
Whatâs I miss
you missed a lot đ„
Hmm, I prefer the feeling of my wooting but I like the sound of my venom
both are using tee hee
different plate
You swapped springs and hated it?
it is fucking insane that there isnât a <60g g502 clone yet
If only
swapping springs 
whoâs gonna tell him?
lol

there are no other springs that fit Fluxes yet and itâll be while (if ever) before they exist
varedis asked about long springs and he got this from D
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at this point tell us what works properly bro
Common Flux L
would be easier
When you ask for long springs and she tells you she was hit by her parents last night and has attachment issues type shii

thank you but too late
Youâre lucky he didnât tell you first
Donât worry I recently asked some questions to Sony Korea for shafie too.
So no set date for your lens restock but you should be prepared to buy when it does
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Flux v2 aka TTC POM ftw
Flux V2s are white snake
lol
If youâre going to troll people down bad in hard times atleast get it right smh
The issues would still be present @sacred elm you just shouldnât be a night owl and you never wouldâve seen it

If you prefer the 80he format then sure
Thatâs why many of us who had 60he bought the 80he
Never buying a partial boxstem again after nx snow switches
they donât sound bad

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lol RIP
âSuch stable axis movementâ
Black (translucent) top housing. You have my attention
Aligner getting caught up in the deafening wars is wild work on my part đ€Ł
not like anyone should take a 80he lover's statement seriously
ok
Or a benom lover seriously in another companyâs discord when they donât like their products â
Yeah if 60% isnât your top FF than I take your opinion with a grain of salt fs
are these new?
a bit
make love, not war
I havenât seen a church yet
canât really call a month old switch new anymore
no love for box stems other than KoMs
cant call fluxes new either
actually why do i even try to consider, trump is still here
they have issues from 2022
4 years before i spend money in keyboard again
second term 
did he get that passed
trump 2036
LOL
isnt this already his second term
Momala 2040 đč
i dont want any more of him no thank you, i think people were trolling when they gave him a pass for covid
He has 2028 hats looool
yea
2028 being 3 years away is fucking insanity
Im serious, he is selling them
I remember scifi movies taking place in 2025 bro đ
I remember when I was younger playing bo2 thinking 2025 was sooooo far away
2040 is only 15 years away
Itâs true. It feels like just yesterday that Sony introduced the fx3 and a7siii cameras
to know that i may be alive for 2077 is wild ngl
see if it really goes cyberpunk
I be 71 by 77
Youâll just be retirement age like Wakako
weâll be able to upload ourselves by then surely. Weâll be immortal brother đ„
Sameđ
nah i probably be the guy selling silverhand cd in the market place
A small elite governmental group will have done it
talkin about the "good ol days"
"Selling used venom, still works like new"
I can't wait to be able to say back in my day about smart phones then vs now
Back in my day neuralink was just a joke from some rich asshole
It will happen
think it kinda happened just not for most people yet
but correct me if i am wrong, i thought i saw something like that already
Have you listened to the telepathy tapes
Wild
âI am typing this with my brain.â đ€Ż
Was number 1 on spotify
strange combination...
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something I should start trying to do ngl
me type everything without my brain
searching that rn
@quasi hinge this thing?
since hes not replying to as he said all verified users.... well i assume the neuralink killed them
i laugh too loud at that i need help
AI type shi
sorry he replied to 3 tweets 10h ago
2 of which were 1 word
and the other was 4 words
incredible typing speeds not gonna lie

good morning young man with one arm
@tawdry tree all of this flux conversations reminds me when we would tell people there is more to consider when picking a switch. I kept telling people that magnet quality was a real thing and no one believed it. Then when the first batch of raptors came out with crazy magnet swings, people started to believe.
How quickly everyone forgot
flux has issue with flux?
flux is not very flux
@fluid ravine
and it was deemed a âCHEATERâ switch because of that 
i think i saw that somewhere before
Yeah, its the IRL version (can only get at a keeb meetup) and it has signatures from some cool people in the community
fancy, that west or east time?
stronger magnet = BETTER!!!
see if i can catch the stream
fluxes shouldâve capitalized on that with their big ass magnets
he still recommends raptors til this day
they are good for osu bro âïž đ€
captain sinking with his ship, I can respect it
Ws should have just ordered sneks, removed their magnets and put them in their flux switches
real
we can think of something else that is not the top performer yet is still being recommended since top players use it but i am not gonna say the name.
Which also would have explained their price, 2 birds with 1 stone type shi
ah you mean the venom. Very true, the MM Studio 2 million scan board has since made it obsolete

wont work, flux takes a jumbo magnet
flux on the right?
Rare earth magnets â
yes, they're called differently in china
yee me like this name better than flux
2/10 rage bait
not really, just think the statements are equally delulu
I mean for real though, itâs been argued like 4739283 times and every time it goes back to you saying âI donât care if other people donât have my preferences, Iâm correct and believe itâs correctâ
Why not just stop trying to rage bait the topic out instead
there's really no need to keep trying to do rage bait nonsense, especially after an entire group of people got banned/timed out for rage baiting and making the asmosphere in chat suck
what statements? that raptors are outdated piece of garbage and the nonsense you wrote above?
my fav players uses a normal keyboard so HE is trash now
frfr
its funny that you think raptors is outdated because of its performance yet somehow wooting is not
and he's back at it again.
so do you actually think those statements are equally delulu? lol
raptors literally nerf your keyboard because of stronger magnet, also in which world wooting isnt top performer anymore? because it doesnt have adjustable deadzone and 0.0001 rt? you are literally using wooting settings on your venom so whats this yap
take the hint josh. An entire group was literally reported repeatedly by many people until they were banned/timed out from the server because no one enjoyed the channel constantly devolving into ragebait and mocking each other to validate x keyboard/switch as the correct preference. Go to HE discord or another discord if you want to have these discussions
i am only saying that because bro started shitting on raptor for the reason people shit on wooting
it's the literal wooting server
as long as no one criticizes raeds 
Agreed, raeds best switch
This is the weirdest thing in observed since joining the server. Theres people calling others "wooting shills" on the official wooting server, like, where else did you expect them to be? In the geon server arguing or what?
you argued about this like 10 times
yeah it's basically the other servers aren't active enough for them to have the stupid argument so they come to the literal wooting server to say it then complain that people have other reasons for liking wooting here
why dont you use mm studio keyboard with quintillion scan ratr and 0.0001 rt precision
what is this yap about performance, its just so boring
like come on man. Guys acting like joshiba is the reason the entire hobby gets a bad rep at times because they can't just accept that other preferences are valid and not everyone has to share or conform to their specific meta preferences
venom is great for x reasons. wooting is great for y reasons. It's not some "you can only have one preference and choice"
yeah it's obvious he's just trying to set off shafie when he does it
i think you told him the same at least 7 times
but the dumb thing is all his friends who do it have literally been banned/timed out for doing it so much and he can't take the hint
no one wants the toxic bs rage baiting, take it somewhere else
i think the only one i know who got banned was mj, who else got banned?
In the famous words of Tom Lehrer, there are some people in this world who don't love one another, and I hate people like that
lol its not even funny anymore, bro just keeps repeating same nonsense for months
No need for bickering, just enjoy the top tier shitposting from 1968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIlJ8ZCs4jY
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The chat is fun and enjoyable when people aren't trying to force debates on why their keyboard preference is more correct than others, it's actually been great since their crew were 'handled'
people talking about cool things to do with venom, other folks talking about wooting stuff, it's all good
That's why raeds he are superior switch
fr
can we put a jst port on every 60% pcb
Well jst port as addon
Do you guys actually have raeds or recruiting for ukraine? (Raeds rock meme)
If youre good with a soldering iron you can do it yourself
i never used one in my life
Then I do not suggest trying it!
Cuz why?
Can't comment about it
wonder why
It is definetly diffrent experience
I have Raeds. I do not like them, some people do. Totally preference
preferences can be wrong
Mught give away your location to the other side?
Might be true - one time shafie say he preferred the old sigma 24-70 lens over the newer Sony gm ii 24-70 and he was definitely wrong
old sigma has more aura
Sno when are you buying vintage leica lenses
Or whatever that expensive ass european brand was for lenses
which one lol
i actually suck at photography stuff so probably never lol. I know video but i only know the very basics for photography
Doesnt matter, just trying to encourage dangerous spending habits here
i support this
This chat got me to spend all my shit on stuff, just trying to spread the love â€ïž
Camera lenses are an excellent way to spend a used car amount of money
Mini Leggera should be here tomorrow! anyone have recommendations on insulation to use on it?
I put poly fill on mine
sweet! i appreciate your insight!
speaking of that, geon is launching glare60
$480

Has he said anything about n680 yet
fancy 60% with coppa bottom
Thatâs the case id be curious about because he said itâd have a low typing angle
Itâs been pretty quiet on the n680 front for a long time
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I did photography a while back so I get where you are coming from but I did analog dark room stuff
480 + tax, the shipping cost is like small change on top of those
shit gonna be 1000 usd for us
but do they love you is the real question
Pre tariff price?
My brain just doesnât handle doing both photo and video at same time. I look at the scene thinking in video terms and the moment I think in photo it throws me off
I heard shafie knows his photography stuff
i watched the first bit of that telephanty thing, 95% accuracy is kinda wild
wtf
RightâŠ..
Thatâs true, he told me to let him know as soon as the 16mm f1.8 lens comes back in stock
He didnât say it in words but you can tell itâs what he wanted
Yeah, ill show you how to process analog film in a dark room
Red light
Some equipment
Fun times
Be careful if you start seeing a countdown of numbers appear in your developed photos and a strange organization of scientists contacts you
Reference over my head
yeah he usually just puts tears of happiness reactions whenever you talk lenses with him
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you have some fun times ahead of you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three-Body_Problem_(novel)
The Three-Body Problem (Chinese: äžäœ; lit. 'three body') is a 2008 novel by the Chinese hard science fiction author Liu Cixin. It is the first novel in the Remembrance of Earth's Past trilogy. The series portrays a fictional past, present, and future wherein Earth encounters an alien civilization from a nearby system of three Sun-like stars o...
Ohhhhh this
Yeah I lost interest when I realized the premise was that they were not here yet
The Age of Disclosure is an unprecedented and revelatory film âfeaturing 34 senior members of the U.S. Government, military, and intelligence communityâ revealing a cover-up of the existence of non-human intelligent life and a secret war to reverse engineer technology of non-human origin.
The film exposes the profound impact the situation ...
Itâs gets extremely interesting as the plot develops
a lot of very far off space theories played out in the second and third books
But based on them not being here yet
Want me to recommend something wild?
In return
Them being not here is only for part of book 1 iirc
The story accelerates a lot as it goes. As in hundreds to thousands of years as the plot develops
My rec
Check out his book Abduction by john mack
Harvard psychologist (pulitzer prize winner)
Head of the department
Thanks ill check out it, book or show?
show only goes to end of book 1 right now
a lot of the crazy sci fi stuff happens in book 2 and 3
Speaking of books, Ive got 2 hours left of the 55 hour book Ive been listening to lol
audiobook goated for doing chores. All my cleaning gets done with a random audiobook on play lol
I listen to podcast or deranged music
Ordered the last cosmos extension kit from ilumkb and an international kit from keygem
Pochizo over here waiting for f1-8x fe
She desperate

crunch
nice.

is pochizo in US
Yes
that's quite tragic for their owlab case dreams
She don't want that no mo
she was waiting for it for ages to use her gift card
So, I've been recommended SwagKeys Knight V3 Stabs. I see that they're in stock from CannonKeys. Do they ship from the U.S.?
Ahh
Well
She waiting for smth new from wooting
Their HQ looks to be in Rhode Island so Iâd assume thatâs a safe bet
Gotcha, I wasn't certain so I thought I'd ask.
A good strat is to find their about us page and usually itâll have some good info
Yes
Gotcha, I'll keep that in mind. Though Stabs are the last thing on my list to purchase.
material
Bottom is full POM material (will have darkened RGB) and top has PC top housing which will give you better RGB with probably some sound variation
oh okay
so basically if idc about rgb better to get the full plastic one for better sound?
you will still need to hand lube them btw, they sound very plasticky without hand lube
because there are only three small dots of lube on the bottom
Both are full plastic, just different types of plastic, but yeah if you donât care about rgb then the pom would be the better pick
ah okay, i have some cheap aliex lube from before, does the lube brand matter or nah
thanks reply
Generally no, although itâs likely fake krytox itâll usually be fine
Are there any low pro switches I can use?
no
thanks reply
Check the switch list site stickied, then sort by switch travel
@stray tiger u end up trying the lumia herz yet? if so, what're your thoughts?
nvm just saw ur sound test
where do y'all stay updated on the latest HE switches?
My sources is this channel, but i'm curious how y'all find out about the other shit
japanese reviewers on twitter
Yeah they sounded great, just like the TI's. Most of the info comes from either the manufacturer contacts I have or reps, along with other communities and socal site groups Im in
socal as in SoCal or did u mean social
cause if there's a SoCal group i needa join that
social sorry lol
rip hopes and dreams
There is a very large and great socal keeb group though. Not like HE specific group but mech in general.
San Jose has a super cool in-person mech keyboard shop
Nobody is allowed to have nice things anymore didnât you know muthafugga
oh word? mind putting me on
i am a believer đ„Č
I think this is it https://discord.com/invite/sZFyYS7
oh wait i joined and left this server a while back lmao
smh my head
shakin my smh
also, is it a given that if i have the ti hes, lumia herz ain't worth?
might be a silly question now that i think of it lol
Yes they are the same switch except pink
https://kineticlabs.com/switches/jwk/everglide-master-he-switches anyone try these?
Should I try to pick some up?
the sound test on that site sounds quite nice
i literally just watched this video
It was so nice yesterday
I thought you were pretty happy with your current ones?
Where is this at?
We have awesome mountains where I'm at too so I was wondering
Still snow on ours though
I mean yeah I am. Ig I'll wait it out then for more switch options. I just worry abt tariff and shi
Lots of new stuff coming over the next few months and unless you need something today I'd hold off.
Slice75HE
Geo75HE
same same but different
Cool cool
my friend has slice75 and its pretty nice, that cork between pcb and plate is interesting lol
I'll be on mx for the next few months ig
Unless there's something I must do on froggy
We don't have anything too high within my area but some nice looking mountains
We just lost the snow on the one visible from my driveway, this was just last week
OEM boards have had build quality down for a while now
just firmware support doesnât last
Last week has been 20-25c so it's just now all melted
you buy it for the features it comes with
yea
socal also has big audio events too if ur into audio
I'm waiting to get doxxed eventually by some geoguessr wizard from the pics I post

im on the way
Mountain range looks too green
Dang yall still got snow snow
like audiophile kinda stuff?
I could get into that but I'm already too deep into this keyboard shit
yeah
pls dont
i'm not gonna do it cause i know i'll like it



frog leggera is after

