🔧│keyboard_modding

[knotty iron]

arent the adaptive stabs genuinely a decent product too?

[quasi hinge]

They feel great for me

None of these worked

Also maybe the silver cf plate doesnt have the best cutout… so who knows

Or best QC

[tawdry tree]

Looks like Satin60

[quasi hinge]

Likely an isolated case but the stabs feel great on my build

[knotty iron]

you don't need to do a lot of maintenance to them right?

any lube required?

[glacial wind]

the adaptive stabs are good. They're among the 3 recommended ones by most keyboard folk in korea

the 3 being swagkey knight, typeplus and designer studio adaptive stabs

[quasi hinge]

I think maintenance free

[quasi hinge]

My buddy did this, I needed help as the simple way was not going well, probably need tho

[calm pulsar]

I still had to lube mine, but they aren't bad at all

just decent stabs like sw knights

[quasi hinge]

But like maybe its placebo but they actually adapt

None of these worked, all scratchy

So either lucky fit or there is something to the adaptability

And they are smooooooth

Zero complaints

[knotty iron]

Thanks, I guess I will order a bunch

[glacial wind]

keep in mind asdasmos had issues due to the hole of his custom plate

so i wouldn't just randomly order a ton of those stabs for yourself for no reason

[knotty iron]

I'm pretty sure the KBDfans Tofu60 CF and FR4 plates should be fine tho

[glacial wind]

the bigger question is more do you have a reason you need stabs?

[knotty iron]

my current ones aren't really all that good, I tried tuning them multiple times and they just have too much wobble

they don't feel good to use

[quasi hinge]

Try 1 set

[glacial wind]

you might be a more typeplus path if you want less wobble

[quasi hinge]

This is true but also for anyone else having stab issues or want to set and forget…

[glacial wind]

the actual fit of stabs is different and not all stabs are the same tightness as far as fit and wobble goes because less wobble isn't always desired

for example some people don't like the typeplus stabs because they want a tad more movement, so they go knights instead

[quasi hinge]

I definitely learned this haha

[glacial wind]

the typeplus ones are the current 'tightest' wobble wise if that's your concern basically

[quasi hinge]

I have these and im sure they are good but they didnt sync with the silver cf

Maybe adaptive stabs are for special cases

[glacial wind]

yeah but your situation with silver cf is unique because iirc your plate wasn't designed for most stabs

[quasi hinge]

But I think there is something to it

[glacial wind]

i mean for aerobrake not you

he's using a regular fit plate so any of the usual suspects should fit no problem

[knotty iron]

oh i see

[quasi hinge]

Can you explain adaptive mounts for dummies? (ie me)

[knotty iron]

ill go look them up

[glacial wind]

it's nothing different, adaptive isn't talking about how it's mounted, it's talking about the structure inside the stabs

your adaptive stabs are mounted the same way as all the other stabs you tried, but the fit of their build was probably a tad smaller so it managed to fit into your cf plate that was meant for plate mount

tl;dr is your cf silver plate was supposed to be for plate mounted stabs, you had a bunch of screw in stabs so they didn't fit. The designer studio ones just happened to be small enough to fit despite not being designed to fit that type of plate fitting

[quasi hinge]

Even the tx ap plate mount didnt work

[glacial wind]

yeah so basically the hole was not designed/qc'd the same way as every other plate for whatever reason and that's what led to your stab issues

[quasi hinge]

Yeah QC issue most likely

It was my second

Both were different

But hey

If anyone has unrelenting stab issues

There is also designer studio haha

[foggy scroll]

anyone notice stuff im missing before i screw myself? 😂

stabs coming seperate, sold out on geonworks

[quasi hinge]

Missing a wooting

[glacial wind]

i assume you have switches already?

[foggy scroll]

yea sitting on my desk

[foggy scroll]

the price difference was wild
the wooting module was the same price ( little more even) than this venom build that has a case included
once i add stabs it's basically even

but the wooting built would be adding extra for more shipping costs from different places

[quasi hinge]

Apologies, im just making a joke

[foggy scroll]

don't gotta apologize
i was just baffled at the difference

[quasi hinge]

I just like poking fun at guys buying venom in the wooting discord

[quasi hinge]

They should release a budget pcb

Wooting really missing out on a potential segment

[foggy scroll]

the one there should become the budget option after the 60 is brought up to 80he standards

[quasi hinge]

Why not a wooting pcb with decent specs, no gimmicks for 100$ pcb only

[quasi hinge]

I agree

Keep the 60+ and 80 etc but then have a budget or just pcb option

A lot of people just change everything but the pcb anyways…

Think of all the dolphins going to choke on all those lekkers

[foggy scroll]

at that point it's a venom with lights tho

so idk if it's worth it for them

[foggy scroll]

yep...😬

[quasi hinge]

Yeah exactly, fight geon head on

Id buy wooting over venom if they had the same option and I was looking at that form factor

Take care of all customers

Wooting has a good ‘moat’ so to speak

But you need a cheaper option otherwise the other brands will hollow you out, some people simple just dont have the budget…. Or want to spend 200 only to keep just the pcb

I dont even bother with lekkers

(sorry wooting, still love you)

[foggy scroll]

i got owlabs for this build coming

[quasi hinge]

Nice, I hear people like em

[foggy scroll]

they were cheaper here and i havn't seen bad stuff said about them

[glacial wind]

because wooting can never compete in budget category

you'd have to cut the same corners, drop projects, rnd etc to compete with full asia based brands. Would become a race to see who can cut more to win the budget battle and it's not something any higher end brand should jump into

[quasi hinge]

They couldn’t just sell a no frills 60% pcb for 100$ with no lights?

Seems easy

[glacial wind]

the question is if they do that then what do they cut

[foggy scroll]

waste of time with geon there with faster performance already anyway, no?

[quasi hinge]

Not my company

Maybe they make it in volume

I dont know enough about their internals to give a good answer

But if it was me I would explore

[glacial wind]

i'd never personally

you'd be shooting yourself in the foot

changing a high end brand into a budget brand and eventually still losing and having to cut a lot of things that premium brand customers want

[quasi hinge]

What about pcb only

[glacial wind]

do you want 4 year warranty, lots of staff employed not in asia, rnd on random projects that may not go anywhere but are interested/fun, hiring dedicated graphic designers and usability designers

[glacial wind]

the pcb is the reason people buy wooting and where they likely make their margin to be able to do a lot of the stuff they do

if you cut out that you're basically saying "i want to compete with china now while having all the other premium stuff that chinese companies don't support" and you'd either eventually lose or cut all your profit out and make no money trying to beat china at their own game

[quasi hinge]

It doesnt need to be all that

[quasi hinge]

Venom is Korean

Geon is a decent brand

And a lot of people here have both

[glacial wind]

venom is largely made in china and geon owns his own factory etc and korean wages are much lower

[quasi hinge]

Wonder why

[glacial wind]

asia brand is very different to a company that operates in multiple places, one being EU with higher wages and factors

[quasi hinge]

Or even moved to venom

[glacial wind]

and keep in mind venom is missing a lot of the bells and whistles

[quasi hinge]

Anyways, agree to disagree

Id argue to explore

Maybe they could

Maybe they couldnt

[glacial wind]

i'd argue that if they did that they would be killing their own brand

[quasi hinge]

We will never know

[glacial wind]

it would be exploring a quick death

there's a lot of little things that add up in being able to do ultra budget stuff

for example how many brands do profit sharing with employees or have a full time UX designer on board

to compete long term at a $100 price point those are the things you'd slowly have to give up, and even if you do china will crush you in that regard eventually

[quasi hinge]

Thats why im saying we have no idea on their internals unless you know more

[glacial wind]

well calder has straight up said it so we do have some idea

[quasi hinge]

Okay well that kills it then

Cant argue with that

[glacial wind]

they cannot compete on pricing with china at all basically and he's said that repeatedly on streams

[quasi hinge]

Forgive my ignorance

[glacial wind]

it's fine, nothing wrong with being curious about stuff

[quasi hinge]

Never watched a stream

[glacial wind]

the tl;dr is he said to be able to compete with china they'd have to cut a lot of corners that they don't want to cut, so they'd rather compete at a higher price bracket and aim to deliver other things like better user experience and warranty etc

geon has mentioned previously as well that he basically uses pcbs as his path to sell his other products

[quasi hinge]

Id agree and appreciate

[quasi hinge]

So he sells it at cost or close to then makes it up on accessories?

[glacial wind]

yep

he uses the pcb as a way to get folks interested in all the other stuff he does like cases etc

[quasi hinge]

Interesting

Like the console market

[foggy scroll]

maybe a silly question
anyone tried burger mounting the leggera?

[glacial wind]

i imagine folks don't bother with that because it's got a proper o ring mount option

[foggy scroll]

but i thought the wooting couldnt o-ring?

i heard that somewhere i swear

[glacial wind]

it can't in the leggera, but folks here have venoms too

[foggy scroll]

yea fair

[glacial wind]

wooting o ring mounts in other cases/optimum case has dedicated method

[foggy scroll]

do you know if i need to buy seperate screws with the venom?
can't tell based on product page

[glacial wind]

it should come with it, at least the one I assembled for friend in korea did. i don't know if the kits are different for international

[foggy scroll]

ok, ill just hope they have them, cool

i imagine i can get something that works cheap anyway

thanks 👍

[glacial wind]

i'm sure one of the international venom owners here can tell you like arc or cam when they're awake

[mossy rover]

yeah looks like it is thanks

Looks like barely anyone has the case though theres only like 3 pics of it lol

[tawdry tree]

it’s pretty new iirc

and probably asia exclusive for now

[crystal ibex]

does venom 60he has functions like modtap? thanks ahead for answering

[sacred elm]

love buying 2$/pc switches with qc issues

[glacial wind]

it does have mod tap, but not the other analog stuff

[crystal ibex]

what does analog do

[quasi hinge]

Something happen or just happy

[tawdry tree]

self scam, sucks 2 suck

[glacial wind]

controller input and dynamic keystroke type things

@crystal ibex

[sacred elm]

[crystal ibex]

so if i just want rt and modtap i should be fine right?

[glacial wind]

yeah venom has that

[quasi hinge]

Whoa

[crystal ibex]

Bought m6l from kbd and it doesnt support remap or modtap

got annoyed ngl

[quasi hinge]

Plus the legs

And then charged 20$ for 10

Matrix dodge for me

How could they not do proper QC for that price ☠️

Gateron at least refunded me for the shi**y jade maxes

Respect to them for that even though their switches are wanting

If wuque doesnt replace or refund then forget them…

[chilly mural]

Rip, at least you managed to be enlightened

[crystal ibex]

i mean the performance is really decent but the driver is very mid

and i think usps lost my package as well

[calm pulsar]

what happen

[quasi hinge]

👆

[calm pulsar]

I wonder if wooting adapts to that

what can I say

raeds better

[glacial wind]

looks like final pulsar x2f will be between 30 to 40g

if it's around 35g i'm fine with that I think. Roughly finalmouse weight with better fingertip sizing/shape

[uneven cradle]

yeah they are going for crazylight kind of design for all their main line-up now

[sacred elm]

probably, but

raeds better

[glacial wind]

geon actually started selling raeds here in korea i think

saw some the other day

[quasi hinge]

Poms still better

[glacial wind]

raeds are their own niche of people who want that thing

[quasi hinge]

Thats extreme cope on wuques part

[calm pulsar]

yeah imagine not using ttc snakes

[quasi hinge]

Placebo maxing

[calm pulsar]

I wonder how ppl like them in korea

[quasi hinge]

Magenetos just as good

Aesthetic and removes the magneto hue with light

[chilly mural]

tee hee exist too

[glacial wind]

i'm sure they'll have their own following here since korea has many fans of the topres and such

i don't really put ti he and magneto in same bucket. One is box stem and one isn't so they're different switches for different folks

[calm pulsar]

one is good sound and feel, one is good placebo

[glacial wind]

arcwyn taken over ragebaiting in others absence lol

[sacred elm]

whats wrong with pom feel

they feel very good

[calm pulsar]

haha well im trying to keep it between people that know whats up

[calm pulsar]

nah im playing
I got pom in my build🤠

[sacred elm]

not even flux 😃👍

[calm pulsar]

ultimately I probably would like ti he for feel a bit more, but since I have HE and MX, I maximize performance on HE

and MX is for actual good sound and feel

[tawdry tree]

RAKKA
https://x.com/freewheeler_/status/1916059864327197026

[calm pulsar]

this is actually very cool

[untold wigeon]

Finally swapped them all

I still can’t decide between gt80 and Zinc alloy , the white one looks awesome

[sacred elm]

gt80

ball catch design is so cool, especially if you plan to swap plates/mod your keyboard

fuck screws

[calm pulsar]

ti he look kinda cool with the ghost case

[untold wigeon]

Should I order additional badges?

[untold wigeon]

Def! And the sound is 👌👌👌

[sacred elm]

If you want different color badges then yeah

[glacial wind]

who was it that showed their order with every single badge and buckle option lol

i remember someone posted a photo of that and they had 12 badges added or something crazy

[sacred elm]

lol

[glacial wind]

i do think the white case with the badge stuff swapped to white would look nicer than the white/gold theme for most setups

[untold wigeon]

Is side badge and strap buckle same?

Nvm saw it

[harsh rose]

has anyone a recommendation for some creamy sounding HE switches? ive looked at the sheet but i dont know how to like imagine what it would sound like. im very new to keyboard modding so any help would be great

[glacial wind]

https://wootingmods.com/switchguide/ look under the 'best sound' section at the top, there's sound tests

[tawdry tree]

[calm pulsar]

[round sparrow]

Paretty sure those dont exist yet

[tawdry tree]

if “creamy” had a solid definition I’d agree

but anything can be creamy

it’s in the ear of the beholder

🤣

[harsh rose]

Ohh ok it should Sound deep and damp definetly not clacky

[cyan lark]

Are damp taps like wet taps?

Good morning

[sacred elm]

most switches are clacky

give up, embrace clack

[indigo river]

That feel when my Bone80 isn’t level in one corner

nvm it is my desk

[torpid silo]

ill buy another jade pro switch from amazon uk, there is 3 brand. YMDK,GUYEKS,KUTETHY. Is there any difference or should I go to cheapest one

[wispy fable]

is it worth it to buy external copper weight for frog mini leggera?

[sacred elm]

No difference, just different sellers.

I would recommend getting owlab ti he switches instead, they are cheaper and have less wobble

[torpid silo]

@sacred elm sadly I cant find it on amazon uk 😦

[sacred elm]

Its not on amazon

[torpid silo]

@sacred elm I already have gateron jade pro on my wooting 80he zincoy. So, you think buying these instead of gateron pro is a good idea ?

[sacred elm]

Yes

[torpid silo]

@sacred elm it seems its heavier then gateron j pro around 5-10 gr. 0.2mm instead of 0.1mm and less total travel. I really hated how heavy is l60 but, Im not sure if I feel different between 35g and 45g. Will give a shot. Will buy it from unikeyboards, I hope they deliver to UK

[trail bane]

Wot

[sacred elm]

They both can do 0.1mm if you mean actuation. Also they have the same weight, both are 35/50g. Jade pros will feel heavier initially, because of longer spring.

[torpid silo]

ah unikeyboards says like this:

[uneven cradle]

Damn weird sounding thock coming out of those switches

[torpid silo]

I like the sound of jade pro actually but it is really different and can hear sometimes woobling which makes me crazy about it

[reef oar]

don't believe the propaganda

jade pro >

[polar girder]

LOL

[torpid silo]

bought 110 just a few minutes ago

but will buy owlab ti because Im rich and why not

I have wooting pack for remove switches etc but my fingers getting really bad, is kemove p10 is effective or you guys know really better one ?

[reef oar]

i don't blame you, they're really cheap

[quasi hinge]

Why dont you try poms then

[torpid silo]

I mean bought 110 pack of gpro 😄

[torpid silo]

what is poms

[reef oar]

ah okay

[polar girder]

The greatest HE switch to ever live, duh.

[reef oar]

[quasi hinge]

https://www.ttcswitches.com/products/ttc-full-pom-magneto-linear-gaming-dust-proof-keyswitch-gaming-hall-sensor-35g-rapid-trigger-switch-keyboard

[torpid silo]

is it has better typing experience rather than gpro ? and how is their sound profile tho

[quasi hinge]

Almost no wobble, muted clack because pom soft

[quasi hinge]

Magnet gud

Only downside, they need to be hand lubed

[torpid silo]

ah they dont come pre lubed ?

[quasi hinge]

They come with 3 small dots like its a joke

Totally different experience with lube and non lube imo

Still the best switch out rn imo

[torpid silo]

You can probably tell from the way I talk that I’m completely new to this and just starting out. I also lubed about 10–15 of the JPRO switches myself. But even though I lubed all of them the same way, each one somehow sounds different. By the way, I watched Wooting’s video and followed it for the lubing process. After the first 10 switches, I stopped lubing the springs and only lube the part at the top of the switch that looks like a "+" symbol.

[quasi hinge]

Fair enough

In that case unless you can find someone to do it for you, find another switch

[torpid silo]

Honestly, it’s not possible for me to find someone who can do it for me; I genuinely want to learn. In fact, right now I’m designing a 9-key mini HE switch test PCB and will be ordering it soon. I want to build a full-size keyboard tailored to my own preferences. But the funny part is, I can’t even properly lube switches yet, haha 😄 (I’m an electrical-electronics engineer and a software developer.)

[snow yarrow]

How did they fk this up so badly? Its not even their first he switch right?

[sacred elm]

It is

2$/pc switches with scuffed magnet tolerances and not fully non-magnetic springs

💀

[quasi hinge]

Brutal

Sounds like a legit reason for a refund

Gateron refunded me

[snow yarrow]

Interesting business strategy for sure, lets see how it pans out for them

[torpid silo]

AYAYAY I bought gateron jpro for 0.65 paund for each key actually

[snow yarrow]

I'd try to get them refunded too, maybe wait for a later batch when they get their shit together

[sacred elm]

Im about to swap those mfs out

jk

[quasi hinge]

Breathe deep brother

[torpid silo]

😦

[sacred elm]

🥀

[quasi hinge]

Just fyi, these issues have nothing to do with poms

For another switch if you dont know

[quasi hinge]

Honestly your best use of this emote

I feel it

Especially if no refund

[torpid silo]

how u guys feeling about kemove p10

for switch / keycap puller

[little glen]

Ws keycap puller + tx switch puller

[tawdry tree]

waste of money.

actually no, it’s not a terrible option but it has the same issue as gateron’s one where it scratches the plate. if that doesn’t matter to you, you could get it.

I think gateron’s one is cheaper still though, at least from ali. @torpid silo

Around the same price https://a.aliexpress.com/_EJyJpl0

[wispy fable]

opinion on external copper weight for frog mini leggera

[polar girder]

Cute

Solid heavier weight alternative to CF

[reef oar]

the infamous cf weight

[polar girder]

Yeah I couldn’t even bring myself to type the word weight lol

[torpid silo]

okay bough gateron pro + owlab ti switches not gonna buy switch puller, will stick with wooting ones, sad for my finger.

[snow yarrow]

I hope ttc steals the ocatagon stem design from ws and puts snek magnets in them, everything in pom

Ican live with bad factory lubing personally, but ws qc issues are too much for me

[uneven cradle]

Can you call something that weighs less than 150 grams a "weight"

[thorn zealot]

What

[thorn zealot]

For the looks maybe

[quasi hinge]

Octagonal poms will be goat

[glass comet]

when r they dropping a wooting 40he

[polar girder]

That’d be dope

[polar girder]

lol prob never

[polar girder]

Heavier also

Like acrylic with copper would be solid but still light

Acrylic with cf light feel like paper lol

Still want to try it tho

I really want to make a lightweight travel setup

Even tho I don’t really travel and have never needed to take my computer with me lol

[storm axle]

anyone on that has a gt-80?

[little glen]

Yep

[wispy fable]

i might just buy the weight later / when i purchase smthg from geon again

[storm axle]

nvm its fine i thought i was missing screws but im just dumb

[harsh dove]

If it’s worth it to you, then sure

[fringe quarry]

my leggera g is arriving on monday

[sweet oak]

Missing my leg (gera)

[sacred elm]

crunch

[harsh dove]

My Frogs 🐸

[sweet oak]

🫦

[fringe quarry]

[foggy scroll]

has anyone tried that slice75HE board? is it just another HE board everyone will forget about in a month?

[halcyon flax]

Did you paint the raw zinc?

[knotty island]

Yeap

[halcyon flax]

Nice

Just spray coating or did you anything?

[knotty island]

I gave it to the experts for painting. All I know is that it is polyurethane paint.

[halcyon flax]

Ohh, thanks for that info

[halcyon flax]

Also I have a question since my raw case is gonna come in next week, how is the coating and everything, does it get chipped just like the other zinc and is the oxidation any problem later on?

[knotty island]

Honestly, I can't answer your questions. I just got my keyboard not long ago

[halcyon flax]

Ohh, that’s fine, I would believe a bit peaceful if I knew the answers

[halcyon flax]

Also is it really heavy?

[steel ibex]

Sold my leg(to get the gera)

[steel ibex]

I have an alumaze and it feels sorta like holding a small form factor gpu (like two fan two slot)

But zinc is denser and heavier then aluminum

Idk the alumaze feels really nice

I do wish it were a tad heavier

Zinc60 when

[steel ibex]

I have koms.

They’re also very nice

[trail bane]

I know but poms is top1 for me

[knotty island]

2 kg fully built

[untold wigeon]

People who got the TTC KOM did you need to re-lube it ?

[polar girder]

Yes

[glad gorge]

Hey guys, what's the difference between the switches? I don't really know much about keyboards

[fringe quarry]

different color

and other stuff

[foggy scroll]

lekkers cheap but most people don' like them
geon raws or one of the ttc switches recommended

[tropic urchin]

mostly price. RAWs are cheapest and were the king of performance for low cost, but Owlab TI HE switches currently have that crown atm.

POM will have the least amount of stem wobble since they're box stem (you will need to lube them), but will be more expensive than the others listed on Wooting's website

[glad gorge]

Thanks a lot

[tropic urchin]

wouldnt recommend jades since they're outdated and lekkers are ok if you want a quieter switch

[tropic urchin]

my recommendation would be to find some Owlab TI HE switches if you can, if not RAWs on a 20% discount is a pretty good bet for a nice cheap switch

[tropic urchin]

https://unikeyboards.com/products/owlab-ti-he-magnetic-switches?variant=51442572689726 if you are interested

[glad gorge]

Ah okay thanks a lot!

[tropic urchin]

[torpid silo]

bought this today, anyone know when they can deliver it to UK ?

They didnt give time and if they cant deliver in 10 days Ill fcked up xD

[tropic urchin]

if you got it thru unikeys, you can try writing to them or asking in their discord

[torpid silo]

Also u guys know better keycaps for my black wooting 80he zincoy. Im using default pbt keycaps for uk layout. It would be cool to see nocftua colors tho.

[torpid silo]

yep buy it from them, thanks will try it

[tulip rapids]

🫦

[foggy scroll]

anyone know of any keycaps that look like this? I like the black alphas and grey outside.
can't find any

[fringe quarry]

my layout do be kinda dumb tho 😭

[tidal frigate]

That's gmk

Propably

[fringe quarry]

guess i gotta set up some stuff to get # and <>

[foggy scroll]

they're on the slice75 keyboard which costs like 150$ fully built so i doubt it

[untold wigeon]

ngl, 6.25u is my fav layout..
but the 7u is calling me rn

and i kinda regret buying the 6.25u

[tidal frigate]

Well it looks like gmk kinda

[fringe quarry]

why is shift even so big

can we get a ortholinear venom 60

why gmk too lazy to remove the lil plastic things from the molds

also having the lil bumps on F and J would be cool

also a white alt would make it more symmetrical 🤔

[calm pulsar]

nah at this point better get a 7u pcb, just keep the mod keys different color

I feel like white alt would be kinda weird

[fringe quarry]

atleast include onee

buying like 180 keycaps to use 61 😭

[polar girder]

lol clean keycaps tho

[foggy scroll]

annyone else get the feeling like they've made a mistake after spending hundreds on a keyboard?

[sweet oak]

Nah

I feel like i made a mistake not buying enough stuff to make crunch

[sick jackal]

I was looking at the Ceramics. Are they worth getting?

[crisp yarrow]

https://unikeyboards.com/products/owlab-ti-he-magnetic-switches?variant=51442572689726 or TTC Kom RGB?

What does the RGB mean?

[polar girder]

They make three version of the TTC KoM switch. The basic, the rgb focused one, the POM one

You still can see the RGB on the POM tho

The KOM RGB features a transparent PC (polycarbonate) housing, which is designed to enhance RGB lighting visibility, while the KOM POM uses a full POM (polyoxymethylene) housing

[crisp yarrow]

Thanks @austere creek

[crisp yarrow]

Cannot decide between these 2 tho

[polar girder]

They both have diffusers tho

POM is generally considered “the better switch”

[sacred elm]

If you dont hand lube get owlab ti hes

[crisp yarrow]

They got rgb?

[sacred elm]

Yes

[crisp yarrow]

Which one would have better visibility tho?

[sacred elm]

RGB version

[crisp yarrow]

TTC KOM RGB?

[sacred elm]

pom version still has decent rgb, get poms

[crisp yarrow]

Going for the OWLAB ones

Thanks

[tall hollow]

This tbh

I have the POM version and the RGB is excellent

[noble delta]

@sacred elm ho0ly fuck thank god you told me to buy the fr4 plate early on Aliexpress. They shipped it the next day and then it wasn't availiable anymore on Aliexpress holy.

Mine is in transit so thank god

[tall hollow]

Oof

[noble delta]

@sacred elm are these the switches you talking about

I didn't want to order them yet because if since my plate gets cancel. I didn't want the switches

[crystal ibex]

hi all plan to do a venom 60he build, but the foams ran out of stock in the US

is there any other alternative foam/plate for venom 60he?

[sacred elm]

yes

[thorn zealot]

I don’t own any

There’s some others here that do

Personally I wouldn’t get them cuz I don’t go for “thock”

[sick jackal]

Gotcha, I thought maybe they'd be something different.

[sick jackal]

Ahh, I just read read a message on here stating that they have quality control issues and the letters will fade quickly because they're printed on.

[shy valve]

are awekeys keycaps good

[sick jackal]

I was looking at those as well.

[foggy scroll]

does this come with venom pcb + case for 85?
and i'd just need stabs, caps and switches?

[chilly mural]

it already includes stabs (cherry screw in iirc) but the other 2 is yes

[foggy scroll]

oh damn
this seems like a decent deal then, thanks

[misty arch]

Finally made up my mind got my mini Leggera ordered. Small bits and pieces left till im fully ready to embark on my first Keyboard build!

[shy valve]

awekeys or ceramics which one should I get

[thorn zealot]

personally i would just get normal plastic caps instead

[crystal ibex]

Can anyone confirm what foam set can work on venom 60he?

The venom 60he foam set is oos, looking for plate that’s compatible with the pcb

Thanks ahead for answering

[static aurora]

The foam set is in stock on Geon’s website. There’s also one by Hyperboring you can score on Taobao.

[crystal ibex]

Try to get them from a us website tbh

So I would have to order from geon?

[foggy scroll]

are there US websites that sell venom at good price??
besidses the kbdfans case bundles
everywhere i looked was like 30$ extra plus the same shipping cost

[ionic breach]

only tiger gaming lite bundles iirc

[static aurora]

Divinikey is always good when it comes to Geon’s stuff; pretty much acts as their main reseller in the US. You can reach out to them and see if they’ll be restocking the foam set anytime soon.

[crystal ibex]

Do they have a discord server or sth?

Yea I got my pcb from them

[static aurora]

Yeah. Divinikey has a Discord. Link is on their website.

[sick jackal]

So, question does the keycaps or the switches give the most difference in sound?

[thorn zealot]

Switches by far

[thorn zealot]

Divinikey? Yes they do

[uneven cradle]

Keycaps do make a decent difference though

[sick jackal]

I already have the OWLAB Ti HE switches and since I can't decide on keycaps I was just going to go with GMK.

[quasi hinge]

Yes, all my previous non wooting keyboards

[visual ore]

Both honestly

Its usually a combination of both to get the sound you want.

[sick jackal]

I'm assuming GMK and Owlab's will sound alright together.

[thorn zealot]

That’s good

[uneven cradle]

A good combo if you enjoy clack

[visual ore]

Well what sound profile are you going for?

GMK usually good for clack

[thorn zealot]

Can’t go wrong with owlabs and gmk

[sick jackal]

I believe my other keyboard is clacky.

[visual ore]

SA or Mt3 for a more deeper sound

[thorn zealot]

Unless u want that TikTok/yt short “creamy thock”

[sick jackal]

I have Durock Clear 55g Creamy Yellow's and MGK Lazer in an Alpine65.

[marsh saffron]

If it sounds good it's probably clack

[sick jackal]

I personally thought the Cerakey's Ceramic sounded pretty good but I've read people say mixed things about them.

Though they're thocky in sound.

My Creamy Yellow's are hand lubed and filmed.

[thorn zealot]

Trueueuee

[sick jackal]

Okay, so GMK Retrowave it is then.

They're just a bit expensive is all.

[quasi hinge]

Yoooo beautiful, nice color and work!

[quasi hinge]

Share the details in wootstation pls

[solemn cloud]

Well, this is my first GMK set and I did expect the shine but the fingernail mark!? lmao

[foggy scroll]

time to send an email

unless you mean you did that??

[solemn cloud]

it’s def from use but I just didn’t expect the plastic to be so soft that I left fingernail mark lmao

[foggy scroll]

😂

[solemn cloud]

I guess that’s abs for ya 🥹

[foggy scroll]

doea anyone know if there is a tiger lite gaming-esque bundle for the 60% venom? I want the smaller form factor but i'm seeing it coming out to like 450CAD once built

[thorn zealot]

Nah haven’t seen one

[calm pulsar]

there was something from kbdfans with tofu redux, might have ended already

but I think getting leggera + venom is still cheaper

[foggy scroll]

yea leggera one was cheaper than that but shipping is killing me
it's like a 30% increase on price

unfortunate

[calm pulsar]

leggera and venom are both also on aliexpress, maybe try there

though there is a markup from vendors there

so might turn out the same

[foggy scroll]

yea it looks to be about the same and sold out

this sucks

[thorn zealot]

When will they restock venom mx🥀

[formal agate]

This probably gets asked here a lot, but I just got the Wooting x Optimum case and 60HE+ module. I’m aiming to build for a thocky sound profile.

So far, I’ve installed:
• PET film under the case foam
• Stock Poron case foam
• Tempest tape mod (2 layers)
• IXPE 0.5mm switch pads
• Hand-lubed Gateron Magnetic Jade Pro switches (previously hand-lubed Lekker L60 v2)
• Lubed stabilizers with Band-Aid mod
• CustomKBD POM plate
• Ranked POM keycaps

I’m currently using the friction-fit mount (silicone pad) that came with the Optimum case.

Is there anything else I should consider adjusting to push the sound even deeper and rounder? Or is this pretty much as thocky as the Optimum/Wooting setup can realistically get?

[visual ore]

What is the keycap profile?

Could try SA profile if you want to try to push it.

[quasi hinge]

Are jade pros thockiest?

[quasi hinge]

https://wootingmods.com/switchguide/

[quasi hinge]

‘Thockiest’ ive heard have been with cerakeys but that is a whole other can of works

See if sound can be improved with different switches but its hard to get thock apparently

I just hear ‘embrace the clack’ lol

[formal agate]

Yes but they do have a noticeable clack on the bottom out

[formal agate]

yeah not ready to drop that much on keycaps

[quasi hinge]

I stayed away from Gateron after I unfortunately bought the Jade Maxes

All 160 of them

[quasi hinge]

QC is an issue too

[uneven cradle]

Just how it is at the moment with HE switches we don't really have a thock equivalent like MX switches

[quasi hinge]

Embrace the clack for now

[formal agate]

yeah i think that would be my only option i order a pom plate going to see how that changes the sound profile. It driving nuts lol i have tried ever trick I know I cant seem to change the sound profile a whole lot might be the case

[quasi hinge]

You could try pom on pom

Switch to ttc kom pom

[peak breach]

If you want thock switch to mx

[quasi hinge]

👆

[formal agate]

The closest was pet film on the pcb then a ixpe switch pad but that messed with my actuation and left some keys not even inputing so although it sounded great it didnt help lol

[quasi hinge]

Basically its like this… if you are able to achieve thock on an HE board currently, you will have cracked the code and you will be elevated to bishop autist here and be revered

Hasnt happened yet

[formal agate]

Yeah exactly what I am thinking I may have to find a plate that can fit the 60he module that is thin enough for me to stack and sandwich film and foam that also may work the best. Epdm and poron foam seem to not alter the sound with optimum case

[kind helm]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV13FoFYAEh4 imagine if i put a bunch of foam in this

[formal agate]

Its a goal for sure almost every board i have built the thock as been a simple achievement the optimum board has me scratching my head lol

[quasi hinge]

I wish you luck good sir

[formal agate]

Doesn't\ help that almost every key sounds different as well

[quasi hinge]

I use pom on cf

Raeds or some other switch

[wispy fable]

is the owlab TI + cf plate good?

[quasi hinge]

Topre

[wispy fable]

monday or tuesday, i will receive geon's packet 🙂

[kind helm]

probably depends on the board

[quasi hinge]

I dunno

[kind helm]

and preference

[quasi hinge]

My build

[wispy fable]

let's make the clackiest venom he

[fluid ravine]

Oh to be able to type with two hands rn, I would be in clack heaven

[kind helm]

lil bro arm still broken?

i have been gone for a week already

heal faster smh

[fluid ravine]

[kind helm]

[fluid ravine]

[foggy scroll]

anyone have advice on where to look for keyboard building stuff? I want to build something, not even necessarily HE anymore due to pricing, but google just gives me plastic keychron stuff that I'm not too interested in

[kind helm]

search harder

[fluid ravine]

YouTube

[kind helm]

so frogson recommends hipyo

[fluid ravine]

[kind helm]

https://tenor.com/view/perfectly-cooked-impressed-amazed-delicious-you-cooked-it-perfectly-gif-17443260

[fluid ravine]

YO

[foggy scroll]

perfect, i'll grab a 60$ thock keyboard from amazon

[quasi hinge]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[fallen pecan]

new ttc "legend" switch releasing with melgeek clone

[kind helm]

probably more similar to ttc rgb stuff

[foggy scroll]

ok, cool

[fluid ravine]

The amount of strain I'm putting onto my arm rn

[fallen pecan]

looks like a uranus recolor to me

[fluid ravine]

I took 1 hr unlubing, lubing, and mix matching stab wires with sw knights just for my space bar

Was such a painnnn

Worth it ig

[kind helm]

whats that

[fluid ravine]

Some shi to clean my retainers

[kind helm]

fancy

[kind helm]

right side sounds different from the middle and left but we dont talk about that

[fluid ravine]

Better than what it was before

[fluid ravine]

Milky yellow, sw knights, cherry wire lubed with krytox

[fluid ravine]

Milky yellow, cherry clip ins, clipped, lubed and greased

[kind helm]

skill issue

[fluid ravine]

Meh meh meh, this is where lp switches saves the day

[glacial wind]

man ttc really doing the 19274929 minor variations of same switch thing recently

[tawdry tree]

MelGeek got the Tai’e and Madlions a recolor of that 😭

[chilly mural]

Mmm, copy

[tawdry tree]

TTC playing both sides

[fluid ravine]

Edging us frfr

Clear tops are slowly disgusting me

PC is all there is to see

[kind helm]

btw i just played badminton after not playing for 2 years, my body hurts, my self esteem ruined.

[fluid ravine]

Skill issue

[kind helm]

[tawdry tree]

Nylon can be clear too 🥰

[fluid ravine]

(How to cross off words on mobile)

[fluid ravine]

Shhhh

[kind helm]

2 of "~" on each side of the phrase

[tawdry tree]

Gateron’s “create your own switch” will have a nylon top and bottom for sure!

[kind helm]

skill issue

[tawdry tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/476873494320119820/1262509451961962588/Aware.gif

[fluid ravine]

[calm pulsar]

it will stop being good

would just sound dead

[kind helm]

but it will THOCK

what else matters

[fluid ravine]

Gateron where my clicky he switch

[kind helm]

[fluid ravine]

[kind helm]

https://tenor.com/view/weird-snow-white-rachel-zegler-gif-7733428298522157585

[fluid ravine]

Ugh thock and clack are for the normies

[kind helm]

[fluid ravine]

Ugh normies

[kind helm]

what was funny is that my freind introduced me as "this guy used to be good" and i lost every game that night

i hate myself.

[fluid ravine]

Was walking in the dark, I slammed my arm onto the door frame g fugging g

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

"Yoo you're that kid on the VB team right?! "
Plays like shit after recovery

[kind helm]

can imagine and cant wait

[fluid ravine]

I can't imagine myself coaching others while being shit

[fluid ravine]

(」ﾟﾛﾟ)｣ᴺᴼᴼᴼᴼᴼ~

But I do wonder how I'm gonna perform after recovery though...

[kind helm]

honestly if you didnt gain weight then its just gonna be a day or two

[calm pulsar]

better than ever

[fluid ravine]

DUDE IMAGINE I CAN'T REACH RIM OR PEAK MY HEAD OVER MEN NET ANYMORE I'M COOOOOKKED

[kind helm]

then you back to like 80-90% at least in my experience

[fluid ravine]

It's my vert for me

[kind helm]

it will be VERY funny if your timing is all fcked up because of that

[fluid ravine]

Fug skills I want my hops

[calm pulsar]

once your arm heals the bones will be stronger, and it will be just a couple of days to warm up and get up to speed

[fluid ravine]

Dude, back injury costed me a whole season of not being able to play, and AS I'm coming back into playing noticing I can hit again. But timing, HORRIBLE.

[fluid ravine]

Fyi, this is the same day of when I broke my arm

[kind helm]

[fluid ravine]

I'm ultra cooked

I might as well start from square one

It's like reborning in that sense

[kind helm]

that is pretty much how i felt on friday night, i wanna quit the game forever and never touch it again

[fluid ravine]

[kind helm]

smash was all fcked up

[fluid ravine]

Did you miss them?

[kind helm]

11 in a roll is all (not like miss but more like slicing the shot rather than actually hitting it properly, might as well miss honestly...)

[fluid ravine]

LOLL

[kind helm]

that was my strength before i stopped, but now i am just playing defensive like a hoe

[fluid ravine]

Yea you biatch

I'm gonna be roll shotting rather than actually swinging

watch me be a big bitch when hitting

[fluid ravine]

See I would miss all of my overhead serves and would either slice the shit out of a smash or pussy out and play defense

[kind helm]

please record and put it on youtube

[fluid ravine]

Heh will do

Even for tennis

My ass can only serve at deep left corner with overhead

I'm the def of skill issue in tennis lol
Got a titanium racquet and everything and still play like shit

[glass comet]

what does PET film do i hear ppl talking about it

[paper bloom]

@fluid ravine im cooked too

[fallen pecan]

UR ice ultra recolor: Blue Ice, 2.69 RMB each

[trail bane]

Bad decision w 80he imo

[crystal ibex]

does any one know what the daughter board is for

port rewiring to center?

[calm pulsar]

yes

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-meme-gif-21526736

[calm pulsar]

bad decision for HE overall

[crystal ibex]

So I can just trim it and just keep it right

[calm pulsar]

I would just keep it there until you want to use your venom in a case that needs a daughterboard

[crystal ibex]

Oh so the foam will have a cutout for it right?

[calm pulsar]

personally never used it with foam, but I think it wont matter, the foam would just compress a bit in that spot

[crystal ibex]

I see thanks

Would the sound make a big difference with the foam?

I have no clue

[untold wigeon]

if u're not using any case foam,
i suggest to trim it..

[calm pulsar]

foam is generally for fixing a hollow sounding case, so if you are fine with the sound without foam, no need to stuff it with it

imo ofc

[untold wigeon]

my friend's frog mini case (not leggera) got scratched by the db

[calm pulsar]

mine was fine

but ofc removing it will not make it incompatible with og frog mini or other gh60 cases

[crystal ibex]

I’m using holy 60 so

The case itself is already hollow

Ig I just shouldn’t be worried about it?

[untold wigeon]

oh..
from what i watched eyejoker's and geon's build vid with holy 60, the db is touching the bottom case(sure) / there is no gap (not sure?)...

[crystal ibex]

I have a bottom foam that comes with the case

[crystal ibex]

I’m just not sure if I should get the foam between plate and pcb

If I’m using holy 60

[untold wigeon]

never tried and never will 🙂

[untold wigeon]

I can't give opinion on that

i hate the idea about buying a less material case with higher price

[crystal ibex]

Yea I am just not sure how much difference would the foam in between made

[untold wigeon]

just try it without foam first

then open it and try with foam

[crystal ibex]

I mean I like the design since the metal ver is cnced iirc

[untold wigeon]

spend your time to get the sound profile u like

[crystal ibex]

Fair enough

But if anyone else tried holy 60 w/o foam and think it’s alright please let me know lol

[calm pulsar]

I don't think case foam will help holy60 lol

[crystal ibex]

Yea that’s what I’m thinking

[calm pulsar]

plate foam might change the sound somehow, but the case I feel like wouldn do much

[crystal ibex]

No I’m talking about plate foam

The case itself comes with a case foam

[calm pulsar]

the plate foam def changes how switch bottom out reacts

I always used plate foam until I tried not using it and liked it more ever

ever since*

[crystal ibex]

So u got rid of plate foam now?

[calm pulsar]

yes, I think switches sound more lively this way, but also not sure how this would work in holy60

my advice just take one configuration and do the same recording on it on the same keys, w/ and w/o foam

and then compare the sound

[crystal ibex]

Yea make sense

Thanks for the advice

Don’t really care sounding that much so ig i shouldn’t be worried too much

[calm pulsar]

https://youtu.be/kW-RCIA9gsk

judging by the comments it seems this is no foam and alu plate

so as long as you have a good clean sounding switch you should be fine

[crystal ibex]

Yea I was searching a bit and this does not even show up lol

[modest pine]

What keycaps do u recommend that won’t make me go broke?

[glacial wind]

might want to give a budget and design you're after because price ranges of what people consider budget can be very different depending on who you ask

[calm pulsar]

the guy didnt want to read that essay☠️

[modest pine]

Ok sure. So I would like some purple with either black or white. I want to spend less than 80 with good quality if possible .

[trail bane]

Holy80

[sacred elm]

im good

[calm pulsar]

pbtfans in that price range should be good, but the designs with purple seem to be not on sale anymore (purpurite, atomic purple), but you could check out what is in stock, the are around that price mark and decent quality double shot

[modest pine]

Ok thx

[calm pulsar]

pbtfans vior is kinda cool too, but the legends are a bit more beige than white

[trail bane]

Color variations, of course…

[glacial wind]

wuque studio, keykobo also other decent options. Keykobo pricing is all over the place though with some sets for sale on ali for $50-70 and some sets for $150

osume is nice too if you like the pastel, comfy vibes type color scheme as all their sets are that style

[calm pulsar]

can vouch for keykobo double shot abs caps, they are pretty much gmk for sound and feel, but the cost is almost like gmk too

[glacial wind]

keykobo i think the key if you want cheap is find the sets on sale on ali stores. A lot of their semi translucent series is often on sale from what i've seen

[modest pine]

Thx guys

Im also thinking about a grey and yellowish or orangish colour scheme

[languid kestrel]

wuque has the lavender dream or whatever set which would be exactly what you want I guess

https://shop.wuquestudio.com/products/ws-pbt-keycaps-lavender-bliss almost got them myself

[modest pine]

I agree they look amazing. Found them and im either going to get those or try to find a different colour scheme with orange/yellow and grey

[little glen]

The white + gold and purple + green colorways got me fucked up

[round sparrow]

Wish it had sharp edges and not rounded ones

[trail bane]

Nothing special tbh

[little glen]

nah i like it

still unsure how mouting is supposed to work

[halcyon flax]

Ngl, they should name it awfully unholy

[trail bane]

-rep,
No catch ball system
No to much holes
No greater color variation

[trail bane]

That’s why I’m still thinking about which case to get.

[cyan lark]

I’m mostly concerned with how it’s gonna sound after the holy 60 vids I’ve seen

[sacred elm]

bad

[cyan lark]

Right

[thorn zealot]

Like why

[trail bane]

If it costs more than 130 dollars (and it will), then it’s a failure.

[silver nest]

rip my neck but sacrifices have to be made for desk space

[ruby hill]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh6WVKwfDk4&t=1155s

Ti HE Goat

[silver nest]

how are ti’s compated to raw’s

i’ve heard sound test and ti’s sound slightly poppier

[glacial wind]

people call them the v2 raws basically

[glacial wind]

like a tighter raw with closed bottom sound

[silver nest]

looks like sand

[glacial wind]

perfect for a coffee theme build

[silver nest]

fr

[sacred elm]

[silver nest]

might have to cop

i love my raws tho

[silver nest]

toronto raptors ahh switches 🥀🥀

[scenic frost]

Whoops that was not meant for here

[torpid silo]

should I change wooting pbt keycaps for my uk layout

is there a better keycaps for typing for my 80 he zincoy

[little glen]

That is mainly preference

If you want to spend some money and get different colors etc there are a lot of options for keycaps out there

[quasi hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-mewing-meme-chad-sigma-gif-9184140824493752725

[ionic breach]

fk thats good colours

if that bone one looks good irl , i might have to get 1

im def just getting baited by renders tho, its prob gunna look ass

[ionic breach]

ye

it also doesnt show the base plates holy60 had

and it looks to be tray mounted unless im going crazy

[thorn zealot]

Tray mount for 80he is wild

If they did that

Idk if u can even do tray mount 80he

[little glen]

i sincerely hope its gasket or something other than tray

[thorn zealot]

Can’t u only do the original mount for 80he or can u do more

Idk much abt the 80he

[tidal frigate]

Well you can do alot with custom plate

[thorn zealot]

Oh yeah

[tall hollow]

the TX AP stabs I was looking at for a while doubled in price

it was at like 25 dollars and now its 41 dollars

[ionic breach]

us?

[tall hollow]

yeah

[ionic breach]

rip

most kb stores in us still have them at 20 ish

idk abt shipping tho

[static aurora]

I’ve switched away from the TX ones and went with Swagkeys and TypePlus ones. They are a heck of a lot easier to tune.

[round sparrow]

pretty sure it's confirmed to be gasket

[steel ibex]

are you excited for neck pain by 30

[glass comet]

what does PET film do ive heard people put it in their 60HEs but idk what it does to the sound

[untold wigeon]

yoo guys, is there any solution to use standoff silicone cover for the leggera (T)?

[half sparrow]

What’s the best way to open a plastic case keyboard that doesn’t have screws

[untold wigeon]

like how optimum case has and kbdfans selling it

[thorn zealot]

Just changes the sound

I think it makes it more “poppy”

[glass comet]

so like a tape mod?

[thorn zealot]

Basically I’m pretty sure

[languid kestrel]

carefully

[half sparrow]

How do I do it though

I don’t even know if I have the tools

[languid kestrel]

you just jam something in the seam and try not to mangle it all that much

(impossible)

[misty arch]

guitar picks usually work pretty well for me in a pinch

[half sparrow]

I don’t have one lol

[uneven cradle]

Deepens the sound profile, but it's not a recommended mod with HE keyboards messes with the sensor and causes accidental inputs

[glass comet]

is it most commonly placed between the plate and pcb? or can it be placed elsewhere or will it not have the same effect

[uneven cradle]

It's placed between the switches and the PCB

[snow yarrow]

Nah bro gateron is smoking the good stuff

[tall hollow]

interesting

[snow yarrow]

They rlly releasing a jade pro recolor alongside their pom switch, cant make this shit up 💀

[sweet oak]

True gateron technique

[polar sluice]

Do HE switches ‘benefit’ from breaking-in sound wise the same way some mech switches do?

[trail bane]

Wobbling lvl 99 final boss

[tepid garden]

Whats the power connector from the usb hub for the 80hE called its 5 pin but dont know the model is it a molex ? https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/5-Pin-Connector-USB-DC-Electronic_1601389244759.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_image.447813a0CPamSd

[sacred elm]

no boxstem(octagonal stem) = skip

[sacred elm]

please dont use third party jst cable. if its damaged, ask wooting for replacement

[kind helm]

pretty sure jst cable is the same shit as long as the sequence is correct

[half sparrow]

Does anyone know if owlab ti he switch work with ajazz ak680 max

[snow yarrow]

Hows the wobble on jade pro compared to ttc pom?

[half sparrow]

Creamy magnetic switch recommendations?

[round sparrow]

none

there's just clack

take it or leave it

[half sparrow]

No there isn’t bruh

Just give me some creamy ones

[round sparrow]

they dont exist

[half sparrow]

Yes they do

[sacred elm]

bad

[marsh saffron]

creamy = overlubed

there isnt creamy HE its just overlubed HE

[half sparrow]

I see

What type of lube should I get

[cyan lark]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message
Q=Jade Pro, W=Geon RAW, E=TTC KoM POM

[thorn zealot]

Pls don’t overlube switches just for a “creamy” sound

[half sparrow]

Why

It sounds good

[thorn zealot]

Sure ig

[tropic urchin]

its temporary

[thorn zealot]

U do u brethren

[tropic urchin]

and if you go too far its a terrible feeling

[thorn zealot]

Just don’t come here for help if ur switches feel like shit

[snow yarrow]

Damn, the difference is much bigger than i expected

Also, what kind of sorcery did they use in the production of raws, they look really good too here

[tropic urchin]

its alot of work just to have to redo it every 3-5 days when it breaks in

[thorn zealot]

Fellas I just watched a migss review

And it’s time to stop buying wootings and instead buy the iquinox whatever it’s called he

[chilly mural]

nah, gt60 pro

[fringe quarry]

nah venom

[stray tiger]

@thorn zealot since your sister has an aula https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1k8aed7/psa_aula_68_he_has_malware_from_factory/

[mossy cloud]

get mad60

[thorn zealot]

Is this only if u have the software or no

I don’t feel like getting my sis another kb

[marsh saffron]

Doesn't last long + won't feel good

[harsh rose]

quick question i just want to make sure i watched a vid where they showcased the Geon Raw HE are those the switched u can add to the wooting build?

[formal agate]

Yeah, PET film deepens the bass frequencies and tightens the resonance.

On my mechanical keyboards, I usually place PET film between the case and the case foam, and sometimes between the PCB and switch pads or plate foam if I’m stacking layers to fine-tune a specific thock profile.

What I’ve found with HE switches, though, is that the clack tends to be more forward, and it’s harder to fully dampen or mute it into that pure thump-style thock.

[sacred elm]

Yes

You can use geon raws on wooting

[harsh rose]

alright thank you very much

gonna add them to the cart

[sacred elm]

Would recommend owlab ti hes over them

[harsh rose]

lemmo look

[sacred elm]

basically they are improved geon raws with less stem wobble, cleaner sound and fully closed bottom

[tired frigate]

What are the quietest switches I can buy for the wooting 60HE?

[harsh rose]

i see

thanks for the recommendation

[sacred elm]

you can get them on unikeys

[sacred elm]

mathew silent he switch or Raeds

[tired frigate]

Okay is one better than the other??

Divine key or where else?

[sacred elm]

https://wootingmods.com/switchguide/

[harsh rose]

how is the rgb lighting with these?

[sacred elm]

not as good as raws, but still decent

[harsh rose]

is the difference noticable between owllab and the Geon

[thorn zealot]

the rgb on owlabs will be plenty good enough

[harsh rose]

ahh ok

[sacred elm]

There will be noticeable difference in stem wobble and sound

owlab switches sound cleaner than raws

[harsh rose]

then ill probably stick with the owlab

thanks

[tired frigate]

Jesus there’s a huge price jump from Mathew’s to Raeds haha

[harsh rose]

ill prob get the 40G switches i want a lighter feeling

[sacred elm]

40g might be too light, be careful

[harsh rose]

never had the chance to test the difference

[harsh rose]

😂

[sacred elm]

then get 50, its safer option

not too heavy, not too light

[thorn zealot]

honestly to me 50 is too light

[harsh rose]

ill think about it thanks

Can u compare it to non HE keyboard bottom out Switches?

[thorn zealot]

u mean compare the owlabs to mx switches?

[harsh rose]

Yeaah

I wondered if i can compare it to my current keyboard

And maybe get my answer there

[thorn zealot]

it wont be much diff

[harsh rose]

Then ill try and test it thanks

[tired frigate]

Gently silent no good??

[thorn zealot]

they not even silent

[tired frigate]

Lmfao damn

So only Mathew is essentially the best option

[thorn zealot]

pretty much

[formal agate]

Sharing My Wooting 60HE+ Build – Resulting in a Muted Clack / Semi-Thock Sound Profile

Hey everyone! I’ve been experimenting with my Wooting 60HE+ and wanted to share my current configuration and the resulting sound profile:
• Case: Wooting x Optimum Case with friction-fit mount
• Switches: Hand-lubed Gateron Magnetic Jade Pros
• Keycaps: Ranked POM Jelly keycaps
• Mods:
• Poron LE20 case foam
• Tempest tape mod (2 layers)
• CustomKBD POM plate

With this setup, the keyboard produces a muted clack with a semi-thock sound profile. The POM materials contribute to a deeper tone, while the Poron foam and Tempest tape mod help dampen unwanted vibrations and tighten the resonance.

I’ve found that the Optimum case isn’t ideal for stacking multiple layers of foam or film due to its tight internal tolerances, especially when using the friction-fit mount. Overstuffing can lead to alignment issues or compromise the friction-fit system.

I’ve also experimented with inserting an O-ring into the bottom housing of the Magnetic Jade Pros to dampen the clack. While it effectively reduced the clack, it’s a tight fit and not recommended for long-term use due to potential interference with switch mechanics.

For those seeking switches with built-in dampening, the WS Flux HE switches incorporate internal silicone pads in the bottom housing, which help in reducing bottom-out noise.

If you have any questions or suggestions, feel free to share!

[thorn zealot]

i mean that build works for that sound prof

but arent fluxes stupid loud

[cyan lark]

Fluxes have silicone pads in the bottom housing?

(wasn't meant to be a reply)

I suspect AI :sniff:

[formal agate]

Yup just want to be concise with information I am giving 🙂

[formal agate]

This is what the keyboard sounds like

[thorn zealot]

but these are with jade pros

[formal agate]

Yeah 👍

[thorn zealot]

pretty sure fluxes will make that louder

[formal agate]

Never tried the fluxes I just read about them

[sacred elm]

fluxes are loud but very clean sounding

[tropic urchin]

When AI confuses fluxes for duhuk

[cyan lark]

Just write your own thoughts, don't let a bot fuck it up for you.

Teehees should be arriving Wednesday or so. Looking forward to trying them out.

[formal agate]

For sure just being lazy 😐

[uneven cradle]

@glacial wind looks like I'm good

[quasi hinge]

Also the WS Flux have some QC issues

[quasi hinge]

Pretty wild seeing price increases and world is only midway between box 1 & 2

[tall hollow]

its likely in anticipation for the tariffs

because when those container ships arrive, they are seized by customs and the people that are receiving the products inside it get sent a bill to pay the tariff by homeland security and then once the tariff is paid the stuff inside it is released by customs and then it continues on its way.

[quasi hinge]

Im reading that some of these factories havent just slowed… they stopped so I dont know if the rest of us will escape higher prices too even without tariffs themselves

Im not in the us and im bracing

[cyan lark]

At least Summer recession means I can focus on spending less and enjoying more time outside.

[sudden tinsel]

Guys I have question. Will I lost my warranty by open the wooting a fix the stabilizer ? The stock sounds unbelievable 🥲

[tidal frigate]

No. Unless you break pcb you are fine

[sudden tinsel]

You saved my ears , Thank you 🙏

[tidal frigate]

Just do not stab pcb with screwdriver

[sick jackal]

Should I lube and film my OWLAB Ti HE?

[sacred elm]

No need to film

Just lube them if you want

[sick jackal]

Okay, I know that they're pre-lubed but didn't know if I should hand lube them myself.

[sacred elm]

factory lube is very good tho

[sick jackal]

Alright, I may just try them how they are.

I have the entire build now just need to pick stabs.

[harsh dove]

"Best switches out to ever exist in the universe, no debate."

[kind helm]

recorded

anyone remember whens alexotos stream for thockfather boards?

hopefully i dont miss it

[cyan lark]

Damn I was at a 7 and now I am pushing 8.5

[thorn zealot]

I think it’s like this wed and fri

[kind helm]

cool, i think i remember 29 as well

wait

29 is tue, idk maybe check later from dc history

[thorn zealot]

He said apr 30 and may 2

[kind helm]

cool cool cool

think its acrylic leggera and trying out flux and tee hee right?

[kind helm]

did you try frog mini + alu + rawhuk with no foam?

[stray tiger]

https://www.theremingoat.com/blog/ws-flux-he-switch-review

Good review of the flux.

[kind helm]

[stray tiger]

He liked the feel and sound (so do I) but the wobble wasn't stellar. I still maintain the TI's are the best budget value switch.

[kind helm]

flux has absolutely nothing to do with budget

[stray tiger]

Agree

[thorn zealot]

What does the contest part mean

[kind helm]

story behind the switch stuff

[thorn zealot]

Ah I see

[stray tiger]

But if indeed it's a new manu and new molds, there is a cost associated with that. They can only improve from here and I'm betting we see a better plastic mix from them in the future and some wobble reduction. I think D even said this is just the beginning of what they are planning.

[thorn zealot]

So why is flux a 6/20

[stray tiger]

Did you read the review?

[kind helm]

i am excited for that last part then i remember trump forced me to quit keyboard modding

[thorn zealot]

No I’m in bed and should be sleeping

[quasi hinge]

Does he know about the alleged QC issues?

[stray tiger]

Doesnt look like he is measuring switch performance as he likely doesn't have a great way to determine that. Did D say which boards had an issue? Not all sensors are created equal and some handle stronger magnets better

[quasi hinge]

That was @sacred elm correspondence with him

From what I gather, its possible the springs have issues and the magnet tolerances are all out so instead of +-50

it could be like +-100

if im understanding that right

So some or all of the springs are somehow magnetized which could effect performance

and it can be hit or miss as its apparently random

And then with flux, I agree its good to have 'strong' magnets I guess but not if their variance is all f**ked

For instance, I got the sneks even though its placebo as I have og magnetos, their flux variance is very low with strong magents

[quasi hinge]

ttc pom sneks

While Wuques design is superior their QC control completely f***ekd them IMO

[stray tiger]

If the variances are within spec and don't overload the sensor, it doesn't really matter if each switch is different, even +/- 100 as the board continuously calibrates each switch individually. It's not ideal but it's not a deal breaker

[quasi hinge]

But how would you know

I just pulled those numbers out of the air

for 20$ per 10 that is 100% deal breaker IMO

If these were cheapo switches, id agree. but these are supposed to be the greatest lol