🔧│keyboard_modding

[calm pulsar]

how will it get food

[cyan lark]

Someone will check on them though, right?

[kind helm]

i have a cam at home and food dispenser

[fluid ravine]

lemme have em

i gotchu

[calm pulsar]

yoink

[kind helm]

i should try to be friends with my neighbors though actually... so i can ask for help

[fluid ravine]

yuh yoink

[kind helm]

i am down

cat is holding me back

cant travel more than a week

smh

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/thief-stealing-stole-cat-kidnapping-gif-13580660

[fluid ravine]

idk im just lonely as a mofo

[cyan lark]

That would be nice, though in all honesty when I was young and just had a cat to worry about I just found a cat sitter for longer trips like that. Pretty cheap all things considered.

[fluid ravine]

rn

[kind helm]

does help me stay stable though... relatively speaking lol

[fluid ravine]

and i need something to keep my stress out LMOA

[kind helm]

like 20-30 a day from my understanding

idk you let it live at their place or you give them your keys

[cyan lark]

Yeah depends on where you are but it's not much

I gave them my keys

[kind helm]

ahh

yeee i thought about it, may have to do it if i need to go somewhere during the summer

thanks

[cyan lark]

Kinda like house + cat sitting, came over once a day to check on things and feed/give the cat some play time/company

[kind helm]

oh yea once or twice a week is not too expensive

i asked my friend to do it, 700 for 3 months. shes international students and need money so i was like fck it. but man she sucks at this...

[kind helm]

you got a whole dc of friends and volley ball team what you talkin bout

[merry flame]

howdy, I was wondering if someone had good custom keycaps for russian layout, I think I'm getting a 60HE and I need the russian sublayout

[tidal frigate]

How much money do you have

[fluid ravine]

meh meh meh

let your boy cope

[merry flame]

For the keycaps or for the keyboard itself

[fluid ravine]

he's going through depression

[tidal frigate]

For keycaps

[merry flame]

I don't mind the price for that, I really need them so

no limit

[kind helm]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-no-doubt-brooklyn-nine-nine-b99-andy-samberg-gif-17846849

[tidal frigate]

HOW MUCH

[merry flame]

no limit

[calm pulsar]

pbtfans have cyrillic options
gmk have cyrillic as well

[tidal frigate]

Ok so do you have 300€ lying around

[merry flame]

yes

[tidal frigate]

Looks like we got oligarch kid

[merry flame]

I'll take a look, thanks

[merry flame]

If you aren't going to help me just don't answer in first place, not being rude but I only asked for keycaps

[glossy pagoda]

Not sure what you're trying to accomplish with this snide comment, but it's neither helpful nor appreciated

[tidal frigate]

No just if you dont find gmk or pbtfans instock

You will have to look for aftermarket stuff

[calm pulsar]

there is also gmk taiga which is extra fancy, cause no latin layout

[tidal frigate]

Tho i'am pretty sure cyrylic is always in stock

[merry flame]

Hahah looks good but I need latin layout too

adidas top

[kind helm]

i did not even realize that is not latin when i saw it before

[merry flame]

I currently struggle to find the cyrillic characters I want in my keyboard

Lolll

[tidal frigate]

You can always buy stickers

But it will look ugly

[merry flame]

Yes

[kind helm]

[merry flame]

I found these tho they don't convince me https://envs.sh/jXG.png

[kind helm]

[merry flame]

envs.sh? maybe, people are uploading stuff to it

embed is not working?

[calm pulsar]

the cyrillic part is UV printed here, so they may get worn out in time

[merry flame]

yes, i want rgb support tho hahah

[kind helm]

nah it works i thought its a store link lol

[tidal frigate]

Cyrylic/latin and see trough?

[kind helm]

reading is too difficult for me

[merry flame]

oh lol

[tidal frigate]

I dont think so keycap set like that exist

[merry flame]

they... do https://envs.sh/jXK.png

[calm pulsar]

they exist, but they are mostly generic cheap sets, there are a ton on aliexpress

[merry flame]

Yes 😭

I hate it

[calm pulsar]

jade pros?

[kind helm]

jade pro on black pp?

[harsh dove]

Jade pro on fr4

[tidal frigate]

Nice 60% board

[polar girder]

Tf is this lol

[harsh dove]

My OG 60HE

[silver nest]

eww jade pros

[polar girder]

For why

[harsh dove]

Boredom

[polar girder]

Fair lol

[sacred elm]

wdym ew

[harsh dove]

It had raws in it

But sounded dookie

[polar girder]

EW MEANS EW

[sacred elm]

no

[merry flame]

I assume that if I get the 60HE with no keycaps the "Wooting" keycap to replace windows one will also be skipped?

[sacred elm]

turn off caps lock

[polar girder]

GOOD CALL

[calm pulsar]

jade pros aint that bad

[polar girder]

lol

[harsh dove]

Better than most switches

[polar girder]

Yeah I’m just trolling

[calm pulsar]

yeah there are no caps with the module

[polar girder]

Better than Duhuks

[harsh dove]

Depends on what better is for you tho

[polar girder]

Dont @ me

[merry flame]

sad, I want the No Keycaps but I like that one hahaha

[calm pulsar]

@polar girder I agree

[merry flame]

Also, anyone here has a White case? Nvm just found

I'm making an all-white setup Nvm just found

[harsh dove]

Because of Duhuk top out, yeah I’d rather have pros but I do prefer Duhuks without the top out but at that point just get Owlabs Ti He

[silver nest]

sorry forgot april fools was yesterday

[kind helm]

oh man...

[kind helm]

1 remaining

[night atlas]

need

[kind helm]

i want that set for my acrylic froggy

[merry flame]

looks awesome

[kind helm]

99 dolla...

fck

[night atlas]

do it

u gonna spend that 99 on it later anyway right

[merry flame]

I think I'll be getting this one https://envs.sh/jXY.png

[cyan lark]

The best

[tropic urchin]

Surprised this isn’t too busy for you

[kind helm]

its busy in a good way i think

:3

[silver nest]

no dont get this get a tofu redux or an rng salvation

[merry flame]

Link pls

[silver nest]

tofu 60 redux from kbd fans

[merry flame]

omw

[fluid ravine]

optimum looking ahh case

[merry flame]

https://envs.sh/jXC.png

nah, im looking for a white one

[silver nest]

yes this

there is a white one

[calm pulsar]

there is white color for those

[merry flame]

mhmm

[little glen]

why are we still telling people to get a tofu

[little glen]

when leggera exists

[merry flame]

Ah i see

[little glen]

and gt60

[merry flame]

this one looks fire

[calm pulsar]

is it in stock tho

[harsh dove]

If you don't mind the dated or "classic" look of the Tofu, then it's fine

[little glen]

its also ugly

(i am tofu hater)

[silver nest]

to each their own

[calm pulsar]

redux? personally I agree hehe

[merry flame]

You mean the corners?

[silver nest]

its basic af how is it ugly lol

[kind helm]

actually thanks for the pic

i think i pass

i think the set needs f row

[harsh dove]

I mean the entire design but yeah the sharp corners are part of it

[kind helm]

otherwise not as good

[little glen]

thats ugly

[kind helm]

be wasted potential

[harsh dove]

it's just a very basic/simple block basically

[merry flame]

It looks fine tho

[little glen]

no rizz no swag no nothing

[merry flame]

I'm fine with it

[harsh dove]

Lol, that's why I said "If you don't mind the dated or "classic" look of the Tofu, then it's fine"

[merry flame]

Ye

[kind helm]

a smoky color tiger lite would look great with that set

that was hard... i almost clicked

[silver nest]

titties case>>>>>>

[little glen]

cosmos version?????

[silver nest]

yes

[calm pulsar]

isnt it just dust? lol

[silver nest]

no its glitter

[polar girder]

Budget frog mini

Love

[fluid ravine]

NIPPLE CASEEE

[cyan lark]

I'ma tell my wife that next time she suggest I clean my desk off

Not... what the Frogson just said. The bit about it being glitter.

[little glen]

"working to make a cosmos desk"

[polar girder]

Real

[little glen]

i honestly rlly like nipple case

looks good

[harsh dove]

I think nipple case is decent tbh

if you don't mind the nips

[little glen]

love me

em

[glossy pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-gif-2568640736599761295

[cyan lark]

🍼

[polar girder]

I’m a nip aficionado ngl

[little glen]

you dont love em mark?

[glossy pagoda]

I prefer them on people not keyboards

[little glen]

[cyan lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAsm5O2A7EQ

[silver nest]

i modded the shit outta mine lol the silicone gasket plate foam didn't work with the pc plate so i just use the friction fit pad with 4 layers of tape

[silver nest]

im a pepperoni nips enjoyer myself

was a little too excited

[calm pulsar]

[glossy pagoda]

Y'all need to touch grass, good grief

[fluid ravine]

sorry i touch frogs

[merry flame]

are pudding keys good? ¬_O

[fluid ravine]

Forg

[silver nest]

NEVER

[polar girder]

Leggera*

https://tenor.com/view/heat-heat-movie-chris-chris-shiherlis-bank-robbery-gif-16400995593055990768

[kind helm]

leggera probably sound more even than frog mini and we got centered db board

but frog mini probably sound more "premium" due to the weight

[calm pulsar]

let us cope

😭

[fluid ravine]

shit very niceu spacebar

[polar girder]

I dont hate my space bar like everyone else

[calm pulsar]

gummy oring is my favorite mount

[kind helm]

he started it

sorry

[polar girder]

I even tried raw with pingless and preferred the Pom

[kind helm]

imma go to bed :3 c yall at midnight

[fluid ravine]

meh meh meh
you're fine

[fluid ravine]

nite nite

[polar girder]

Well I just dropped an aluminum brick (iPhone) on my frog mini so now I’m stuck for life

[calm pulsar]

gn gn

[silver nest]

thats why i love my nipple case because i can remove all the standoffs

[fluid ravine]

yurrrr

same here so far

[thorn zealot]

Let’s go girls

[uneven cradle]

Just get both frogs

[chilly mural]

lmao

knoif

[thorn zealot]

are u laughing at my knoifs

[tropic urchin]

Don’t laugh at his knoif

They’re art

Smh

Shameful joshiba

[thorn zealot]

bad boy joshiba

[sweet oak]

Big menace joshiba

[thorn zealot]

big bad wolf joshiba

[cyan lark]

The only good joshiba is ||all of them||

[idle warren]

csgo has entered the chat

[thorn zealot]

why

the knife

i mean knoif

[idle warren]

https://tenor.com/view/butterfly-knife-gradient-animation-gif-21937827

Thats a nice knoif mate

[fluid ravine]

errrrr

maybe we shoulve stuck with nylon bottom housing..?

eh im not gonna judge to early

[uneven cradle]

That's definitely one of the space bars

[fluid ravine]

ima back off from this sound test

OH YEAH IT IS HIS MIC LMAO

shotgun mic 😭

no wonder everything sounds plasticky even the jade pros

which is unusual

[thorn zealot]

ur just gon do him dirty right in front of him

[mint pasture]

I mean he can have his opinion, they are like a__holes we all have em 🙂

[thorn zealot]

who are assholes

[cyan lark]

Just checked, can confirm

[fluid ravine]

respectfully

yes

[calm pulsar]

I feel like I can't hear much difference between the 2 switches here
also the spacebar needs some work

[fluid ravine]

I'm not trying to be an asshole or anything but it's just sometime the audio setup can be different than what it actually sounds. I can't judge cus it's also his board so he should know the real difference between recording and irl.

[mint pasture]

https://shop.wuquestudio.com/r?id=4bctal these are the specs.
These things are absolute silky smooth marble sounding hall effect switches!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7hm-JP0NuN8

[cyan lark]

Have you tried any TTC KoM flavors and able to compare?

Feel-wise

[fluid ravine]

i mean yeah i can agree with you on the shotgun mic part

i've been told abt it from Pops himself (tirade)

the top out emphasis really irritates me though...

if that makes any sense

[uneven cradle]

Yeah the stabilizers can be a bit rough stock, definitely need some extra lubing sometimes to remove the rattle

[thorn zealot]

ngl it sounds kinda mid

[fluid ravine]

yeha it does

[thorn zealot]

im sure it feels good

[fluid ravine]

i think so too

[thorn zealot]

i mean those arent the top anymore

so not surprised

maybe the sound is due to ur stock wooting 80he setup

[fluid ravine]

there's like a audible difference with the bottom out i can def notice but im just not satisfied in the way it sounds
it could be just the wooting 80he itself with the silicone gasket pad, cuts out the mid mostly on the bottom out pitch/frequency. Which is probably why there's so much emphasis in the top out in your recording.

[uneven cradle]

Think Owlab Ti he have taken the crown for me at the moment

That and my rawhuks but not something I would recommend for people to buy two sets of switches and put them together

[calm pulsar]

I need a 60% sound test, cause I don't like the silicone insert in 80he

[fluid ravine]

yeah exactly

[thorn zealot]

im not buying duhuks after seeing their packaging 💀

[fluid ravine]

what happen

[thorn zealot]

lets just say duhuk maker guy

is on the weird spectrum

[cyan lark]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[calm pulsar]

mine were packed quite good

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah i remember

[idle warren]

I’m going to be honest, besides the raeds. I hate how all he switches sound

[fluid ravine]

i read aligners message in school

mine just came in a container lol

basic ahh container

[calm pulsar]

wtf mine were just in a standard plastic "bottle" lol

ig they repackaged it on aliexpress

[fluid ravine]

yeah same LOL

funny

[idle warren]

Man knows his audience

Business 101

[thorn zealot]

giving duhuks the diddy special

[idle warren]

Ayo💀

[fluid ravine]

crazy

[uneven cradle]

Kind of feel the opposite tbh I hate the Raeds sound
Guess we all have different preferences

[idle warren]

https://tenor.com/view/diddy-baby-oil-oil-him-up-xllcarolinellx-gif-12157753233357456797

[idle warren]

I like the topre niz sound that might be why, but the plasticy HE sound, especially the og lekkers. Just sounds horrible to me

I would much rather have silent switches than plasticy switches

[thorn zealot]

^^^

[uneven cradle]

Yeah never been a fan of the topre sound

[fluid ravine]

i dont mind topre

[uneven cradle]

Sound of HE switches has improved a lot since the OG lekkers

[fluid ravine]

yurrr

[fluid ravine]

STM Lekkers

[thorn zealot]

um i think u mean downgraded

[idle warren]

Oh yeah I agree, but I still dislike the sound. Though to be fair, who buys a HE board for sound

[thorn zealot]

lekker v1s are the greatest he switches of all time

[fluid ravine]

type shiii

[idle warren]

Filming V1 lekkers made me reconsider leaving the hobby permanently 😂

[fluid ravine]

i mean there are people who enjoy having preference while also have performance in their keyboards sooo

if they dont need HE then just stay with MX

[uneven cradle]

I'd rather have the best sounding HE switch even if it's not going to be on par with MX

[idle warren]

Im not sure I understand what you mean, what do you mean with people have preference with performance.

I get that the HE is the fastest performance board/switch

[idle warren]

I feel that most who get HE boards dont care, those that do crossover from customs. It’s kind of like caring about the interior of your dragcar

[fluid ravine]

Let's just say enthusiasts right? What if they're gamers? Why not let them try to have a great feeling and sounding board to their likings while also still having the performance they would need from a HE board.

There's groups of people that don't even care about sound or feel, which i envy and respect.

But there's still other groups of people that do care about sound and feel out of their boards.

I can't really conclude all this in one go cus hell fuck english

[idle warren]

Ohhh that’s what you meant. Yeah I get what you mean now. Those that come from customs care about sound, but at the same time. When I’m not gaming, I just unplug my HE

For me personally, I care most about feel, then sound. However the wooting is kinda 💀 at both

3.4mm switches help by plugging the hole. But I hate long pole

[fluid ravine]

well then there you have it, your opinions will stand and i respect that

[fluid ravine]

benom and leggera be like

[idle warren]

And full travel HE switches are wet sounding

[fluid ravine]

for now at most

[idle warren]

My leggera recently came in, i love the look. But i found out I hate 5 degrees lol

[fluid ravine]

we shall wait

[fluid ravine]

oh rip

that sucks

xd

i like my typing angles from 5-7 degrees

[idle warren]

Yeah turns out that after using the kei for a while, I hate 7 degrees too now💀

[fluid ravine]

dayum

rip

[idle warren]

Which made me sell some of my boards.

[harsh dove]

Bro said end game.... lol

[idle warren]

6 degrees it is for me

[harsh dove]

Must be new here

[fluid ravine]

yeah...

[idle warren]

I’m going to build a MAXED out tofu next, I can feel it

[fluid ravine]

sob

[harsh dove]

The real end game, is when you leave this discord server and have all the keyboards you need to be happy and never buy any keyboard products again.

[thorn zealot]

after hearing some flux soundtest

they sound kinda like koms/pons

poms

[harsh dove]

Yeah they don't sound special

sound like lubed POMs

[thorn zealot]

yeah i wouldnt get them

[idle warren]

Real endgame is buying your favourite board again, but in a different color

[thorn zealot]

sound plasticky and lil thin

[harsh dove]

Just know they aren't end game lol

[idle warren]

Well and making your own custom case

Custom 1 of 1 case is endgame fr

[harsh dove]

There will be a new switch in a month to replace "end game"

just like every other switch

[fluid ravine]

feel wise i think it would be slightly interesting but yeah sound aint much for me

[thorn zealot]

is it the secret meta switch u keep edging us

[idle warren]

Switch chasers keep the hobby going. But honestly once you find a good switch, SS L F it, you’re done with the hobby

What now

[fluid ravine]

yeah im on the run for switches rn myself, im hella happy with my build but there's always something that could excite me now with these damn switches.

[harsh dove]

Yeah that's why calling a switch end game is funny to me cause there's a new one every week that people are getting hype about and then say the last switch is bad

[fluid ravine]

and there's people talking about endgame keyboards

[idle warren]

Ngl, I just finished LSSF nixies and mx2a oranges

[fluid ravine]

ahem, andy

[polar girder]

I thought the same

[idle warren]

And I lowkey like the oranges more

Cherry is endgame for me now, cant live without the scratch

[polar girder]

Yeah if they have similar wobble and cheaper than poms obsolete tho

[fluid ravine]

need the scratch so bad

[harsh dove]

Yeah they not cheaper lol

[thorn zealot]

should i get nixies/mx2a blacks for 1st mx build

[polar girder]

Oh lol

[idle warren]

It’s a shame it goes Away after a few years

[quasi hinge]

Tariffs are out

[harsh dove]

but that's basically how I feel about the Owlabs Ti HE tbh, basically just as good wobble imo and cheaper and have good lube

[quasi hinge]

Have you guys seen how it was calculated

[fluid ravine]

i dont keep up with politic shit 😭

[idle warren]

From my batch, the oranges are a lot more scratchy and louder. But I used TX films on the nixies and deskeys on the oranges

[quasi hinge]

This affects our purchases

And likely pricing of everything

https://x.com/orthonormalist/status/1907545265818751037

☉rthonormalist🧭✡️ (@orthonormalist) on X

DID I CRACK IT?

I think I figured out at least a chunk of the math.

It's trade deficit divided by their exports.

EU: exports 531.6, imports 333.4, deficit 198.2. 198.2/531.6 is 37, close to 39.

Israel: exports 22.2, imports 14.8, deficit 7.4. 7.4/22.2 is 33.

X · Apr 2, 2025, 9:26 PM

[idle warren]

So if you want more scratch, get the oranges. If you want a more lowkey scratch get the nixies

[thorn zealot]

i see

[uneven cradle]

Depends I feel like nixies are more niche with the scratch either a love it or hate it kind of thing

[quasi hinge]

So the “tariff rate” that Trump claims other countries charge, is actually the trade deficit vs the US divided by their total exports? And he has just taken half that number and called it “reciprocal tariffs”? LOL

[thorn zealot]

theres so many mxs

[quasi hinge]

GUYS

[thorn zealot]

i dont know where to start

[idle warren]

I love the nixies too though, I prefer them over the HMX game switches

[uneven cradle]

I got mx2a unlubed blacks

[quasi hinge]

Everything is going up in price

[polar girder]

WHAT

[idle warren]

Unless you want hyperglides, get the mx2a unlubed variants if you can

[polar girder]

yeah ofc

That’s capitalism 101

[idle warren]

Doesn’t matter which color if you’re going to spring swap

[polar girder]

Increase profits EZGG

[thorn zealot]

yeah i heard their prelubed job is dog

[quasi hinge]

Nah, this is tariffs for dummies lol

[idle warren]

I had the misfortune of having both the oranges and nixies prelubed

Absolute horrendous lubing job

[quasi hinge]

Wild

[idle warren]

But you’ll want to replace the springs anyway, cherry springs suck

[thorn zealot]

yeah heard that too

[quasi hinge]

Im just amazed how the calculate the numbers lol

[thorn zealot]

have u tried milky yel pros

[uneven cradle]

Just get some melodics and start blasting the clicks

[idle warren]

I’ve tried a bunch, honestly if you want smooth. Oil kings and CJ’s are nice

Milky yellows though, SHEEESH

now that’s a budget banger

Milky yellow pro’s are good too

[thorn zealot]

nice

[harsh dove]

Everyones an economics major all of a sudden

[quasi hinge]

Nah man

I follow some anon hedge fund accounts

Its their job to understand this

Maybe they are wrong

[chilly mural]

In the US at least but yeah, this is bad

[quasi hinge]

But we will see a huge clusterf*ck

[quasi hinge]

Look at this list

This will affect everyone

[chilly mural]

holy shit

47% in my country

[fluid ravine]

WHAT THE FUCK

WHY IS MY COUNTRY THE HIGHEST

[quasi hinge]

See

[chilly mural]

im too smooth brained rn to understand but big number = bad

[fluid ravine]

90 FUCKING PERCENTO

????

[quasi hinge]

Clusterf*ck

[fluid ravine]

YO

YO NAAAA

singapore we fucking go dafuq

aus we go

columb we go

UK we go

chile we go

oh naaaah wtf is this

😭

you got me fucked up

[chilly mural]

So lower number bad?

[fluid ravine]

wait

is it?

[chilly mural]

???

[fluid ravine]

or is it higher

how does it work

LMAO

[chilly mural]

@quasi hinge explain!!!

like im 5

[fluid ravine]

im clueless like ever

[idle warren]

Colombia winning lol

[fluid ravine]

yeah same here

[quasi hinge]

Middle column is what US will charge other countries (by using a calculation that would make tards blush)

[thorn zealot]

what did we do

is this payback for the nam war

[idle warren]

As someone who’s studied economy, in my professional opinion. Trump is doing a little bit of trolling

[ionic breach]

ignore the first column

[quasi hinge]

It could change

[fluid ravine]

nah fr wtf 😭

[quasi hinge]

But like

[fluid ravine]

dafuq we do

[ionic breach]

2nd column is the tarrifs that got announced today

[quasi hinge]

This will disrupt business planning and production for sure

[fluid ravine]

like ik im not in my "country" but damn

they be making our shoes

;-;

[idle warren]

It changes on a weekly basis💀 I’m not even American. But he’s definitely just randomly doing stuff at this point

[chilly mural]

I got 24% tariff

[quasi hinge]

Yeah same, but we all get affected

[harsh dove]

Personally I look forward to what comes out on the otherside while everybody panics

[ionic breach]

bruddah, all of the rows is ur country lmao

its kinda cooked

[chilly mural]

Cambodia got the worst at 48%

[fluid ravine]

bro said kinda 😭

[idle warren]

Buy when everyone is afraid, sell when everyone is brave -Warren Buffet or something idk I don’t study stocks

[harsh dove]

Yep

A depression for some people and a great oppurtunity for others

all about your mindset

[ionic breach]

thats the only idea keeping the stock up rn

[fluid ravine]

heh we're cooked

:>

[ionic breach]

funds and corps selling and people buying

[harsh dove]

Some people go broke during a depression and some get rich

just depends on what you do about it

[idle warren]

At this point just buy nvidia until the bubble bursts

[thorn zealot]

Thankfully I copped my knoifs and crps now

[ionic breach]

that and he announced it after wall street closed

[idle warren]

Well, at least we can say times are going to be interesting

[harsh dove]

I'm just not in the boat of panicking about shit I can't control

I focus on what I can control

[idle warren]

Making announcements when the markets are closed. Is certainly an interesting choice

Kind of like me buying the same metal rectangle 5 times in a row

[ionic breach]

i mean he has to

otherwise we will speedrun a depression

[chilly mural]

Trump speedrunning turning the economy upside down

[idle warren]

I’m going to be honest, from an outsider looking in. I don’t know how you guys sustain yourselves

[ionic breach]

yea, ngl im kinda considering getting a protag extra now, instead of the antag

considering tarrifs

[mint pasture]

I have all the keyboards I’ll ever need but they just keep sending them to me.

[ionic breach]

speaking of, mid group buy stuff are fked, cos the actual cost increases now, but every customer alr payed

[idle warren]

Ohhh that’s a good point

But doesn’t that only affect products sold after a certain date

Ie; the boards have already been sold

[chilly mural]

This is for the US only right?

[ionic breach]

yea import to us

[chilly mural]

RIP

[idle warren]

How much import are you guys paying?

Europe is standard 21% where im at

[harsh dove]

Haha fair

[harsh dove]

Like the extra frames and weights etc?

[ionic breach]

9% if over 400sgd (275 usd ish)

[idle warren]

Wait I said it wrong, I meant VAT

We dont pay import for keyboards

[ionic breach]

i want to get a full protag, not sure if its possible tho

with loobed its a bit messy now,

[uneven cradle]

Went you hit that $1000 import tax threshold

[ionic breach]

tmine is vat btw, we have no tarrifs

applies for everything

[idle warren]

Oh that’s not bad, the only product we pay 9% for is literally bread. The rest is all 21%

but Europe is kinds chill so I don’t mind paying more

[harsh dove]

Ah yeah, that whole situation is effed

Haven't been keeping up to date on it

Just patiently waiting for my keyboard

I ordered from WiredIn not Loobed tho, but seems like that whole situation kinda delayed me getting my board on time lol

[ionic breach]

yea, cos my government is really good at investing, most fees are quite low, other than the infamous cars and housing ofc

but cant complain abt 0% capital gains tax uk

[idle warren]

I refunded my lx60 from lube before the blowout, it took me 2-3 weeks on constantly messaging him to get a refund lol

[ionic breach]

ya kezewa also messed up a bit on his end

[idle warren]

Are you from Singapore?

That’s the first country that came to mind lmao, that and Dubai

[harsh dove]

Ah okay , must've missed that bit

Seems like Protags should be shipping out soon tho

[ionic breach]

some stuff didnt arrive

[harsh dove]

Yeah seems like he's waiting on plates or something?

[ionic breach]

to geon, wired, delta key

yea

[crisp yarrow]

Yo guys, planning on buying the 60HE soon!!

Does someone want to assist me finish up my order because I'm a bit lost, not sure what to choose exactly

[ionic breach]

sure, what are u thinking abt

[crisp yarrow]

Alright, so I've been looking trough the stuff. So is the Wooting 60HE + Module + all the options basically the finished product, without anything missing?

Like if you select everything from the category

It's just made so that you can customize it fully to your prefference

[ionic breach]

Wooting60he+ Module and switches and keycaps and a 3rd party case

[idle warren]

Cheapest option is default wooting 60he, if you know you’re going to get aftermarket keycaps, then just get the module + switches

[crisp yarrow]

Yes, it is a bit pricey

I have black/white setup but I'm slowly transitioning to fully white

So I want to get the keyboard full white

The keyboard has a plastic case right? For that I'd need to get the alluminum one in white, yes?

[idle warren]

Yeah if you want an alu case, you have some options

[crisp yarrow]

Is it worth it?

[idle warren]

Either get the alumaze from wooting, which idk if its fully white

[crisp yarrow]

Can't I just use spray paint and save money

[idle warren]

Or get an aftermarket case

[idle warren]

Honestly, if you’re really budget ballin. Get the stock 60he. You get everything. Then you can buy white keycaps later if you want. Spray painting your wooting case is always an option

But idk if it will look good

I dont remember if wooting directly sells white keycaps

[crisp yarrow]

The keyboard will be heavier with the alluminium case I suppose

[idle warren]

I don’t think these are bad, they’ll honestly be fine as long as you’re not expecting gmk

[idle warren]

Yes, it will be

[crisp yarrow]

What is gmk?

[idle warren]

Expensive keycap brand, but honestly I would forget about gmk😂

That rabbithole goes deep

[crisp yarrow]

I think I'll be fine with the ones offered from the website

And lastly I cannot decide on switches

Sounds almost the same to me

[idle warren]

That’s preference. The lekkers sound the worst though imo

But they have the most travel

[crisp yarrow]

I currently have Logitech G Pro X TKL and not sure how any of the switches are similar to my current

[harsh dove]

Imo Wooting probs has the best backlit keycaps if you need backlit

[idle warren]

Hyperx also has some decent caps

Razer is meh though

[crisp yarrow]

I don't even know what backlit means

[harsh dove]

Shrine-through

[idle warren]

The rgb shines through your keycap

[harsh dove]

so you can see the RGB

[crisp yarrow]

I was actually going to go with Lekkers

I suppose I shouldn't then?

[idle warren]

They feel the best out of all the switches imo

[harsh dove]

Depends on what you're going for

[idle warren]

They just dont sound good

[crisp yarrow]

I think I can find a video with a sound test on Wooting's channel

[harsh dove]

Yeah there's not a lot of 4mm travel options so if you want that, then Lekker v2s are your best bet

[idle warren]

I think you should start out with lekker v2’s

[harsh dove]

but if you don't care about 3.5mm travel or shorter then you can check out some other options

[idle warren]

It’s better to start with a full travel switch, compared to long poles

[crisp yarrow]

Isn't shorter travel better

But I mean you can customize it with the software so does it matter?

I really want this Rapid Trigger feature

Was it called like that?

[idle warren]

You can feel the shorter travel, you dont feel that on the 4mm seitch

Switch

[idle warren]

Yeah rapid trigger

[crisp yarrow]

I think I took a liking to the Gateron Jade ones

It's like a more clicky sound

Will go with that one

Just one last question before I order. I used this video as a refference

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kCy9ZxvXUSo

What's that keyboard case?

[stray tiger]

That guy is calculating incorrect (source my fiance works in the manufacturing and importing business).

[thorn zealot]

personally i would go for raws over jades

jades are outdated

[crisp yarrow]

Raws?

You mean Lekker?

In the comments they said Jades interfere with rgb

[stray tiger]

With that logic, no one would like nixies or any classic cherry switches

[thorn zealot]

how does those switches have to do we what we are talkin abt

[thorn zealot]

are u buying module or prebuilt

[stray tiger]

Because you said to go with switch B because it's newer than switch A. My response is that if the age of a switch determines whether someone should like/pick it or not would mean that all of the older classic switches would be garbage.

[flint nimbus]

The ruby's are a little bit more expensive, but they are an improvement on the Jade Pro's for sure. Less chatter, more thock. I love em.

[crisp yarrow]

Buying the module and I'm stuck on the Switches and Case part

Not sure if the Alluminium white one looks good

[thorn zealot]

i just said outdated

outdated doesnt always means bad

[torpid folio]

does the optimum case affect which stabilizers you can use?

[stray tiger]

It's crazy that the Jades came out like 15 months ago and already called outdated

[thorn zealot]

like u said nixies are outdated

but not bad

[torpid folio]

I hate my jades theyre crazy wobbly

[flint nimbus]

*more stability as well

[crisp yarrow]

so many different opinions

[thorn zealot]

are u saying they not?

[crisp yarrow]

So I should not take em?

[torpid folio]

I would never recommend normal jades to someone in 2025

[crisp yarrow]

Which ones would you recommend me?

[stray tiger]

Considering that the definition of outdated is obsolete or no longer useful. I'd say I disagree. A lot of people love the sound and feel of the original Jades

[torpid folio]

im personally deciding between owlab ti, ttc kom, ws flux

[stray tiger]

Why those 3? Based on what criteria other than hype?

[sour blade]

trying to figure out how to outdo my eva themed salv
using leggera red case

[thorn zealot]

but in the he switch market they are no?

worse stability than modern switches

[flint nimbus]

This one looks so good

[crisp yarrow]

idk what that is but it looks cool asf

[torpid folio]

wobble is a huge factor for me and from what I’ve seen they do the best in that regard. Jade pro was good for wobble too but I didn’t like the sound

[sour blade]

thats gmk redline

[torpid folio]

I haven’t personally tried the ti and flux yet

[uneven cradle]

KOMs are best in terms of wobble, wouldn't recommend them though sound bad

[torpid folio]

but everything else I’ve had a switch or two to test out

[sacred elm]

Incorrect

Lubed poms sound good

[stray tiger]

Of the 3 you listed they all have really low wobble. The TI's cost 50-75% less than the other switches

[uneven cradle]

Those aren't KOMs 👀

[sacred elm]

they are

🤓 ☝️

[uneven cradle]

Well whatever one is the best on those silly tests

[glacial wind]

Nothing like waking up to a crashed economy and giant tariffs on the entire planet

[visual ore]

Glad you could join us

Wait no

GET OUT NOW!

[sour blade]

already moved my $$ beforehand

[glacial wind]

Yeah I moved all my holdings out of stocks already thank god, but Jesus looking at that list is some insanity

[visual ore]

Same here

[glacial wind]

It might be the most pants on head stupid thing I’ve ever seen

[visual ore]

I thought I was too late but man....

I wasn't late I was early holy shit.

Tomorrow is going to be a bloodbath

[crisp yarrow]

So the module + all the selected options do they come assembled already or do I need to do it by myself?

[glacial wind]

Half assembled but you need to do final part yourself

[crisp yarrow]

that's scary

[visual ore]

Half Assembled

[glacial wind]

Module is a pre assembled pcb basically - don’t worry, it’s very easy and there’s tutorial videos

[visual ore]

It's pretty easy actually

Take apart case, plug in wire

Screw a couple screws

Done

The hardest part is plugging in the wire

[crisp yarrow]

Last question, Lekker's or Gateron Jade

[visual ore]

Jade

[thorn zealot]

we are cooked

[sacred elm]

None

[glacial wind]

if you mean from the options in the store I wouldn’t go jade

[crisp yarrow]

wdym none

[crisp yarrow]

Why so?

[glacial wind]

Those are old jades

[visual ore]

Wait doesn't Wooting offer the new switches

[glacial wind]

Not really a recommended switch anymore since for the money you can get much nicer newer switches

[visual ore]

Like KOM and Raw?

[crisp yarrow]

So what should I go with then

I'm not sure if I like the Lekker

[paper bloom]

Just get jade pros

If u want jades

[crisp yarrow]

Sounds like razer greens?

[visual ore]

KOM or Raws @crisp yarrow

[paper bloom]

Jade maxs are not bad

[glacial wind]

He’s talking about from the wooting store

[paper bloom]

Oh lol

[crisp yarrow]

Those?

[paper bloom]

Yeah those are old jadss

[visual ore]

Yup

[paper bloom]

Id say get the KOM

[chilly mural]

Buying $0.5 switch turned into $0.75

[visual ore]

Pick any of the three that are listed there

[crisp yarrow]

I'll have to find a sound test video somewhere

[thorn zealot]

def not buying from geon anytime soon

[visual ore]

You can't really go wrong with any of them

[glacial wind]

Get the raw or ttc pom, or you can skip switches entirely and buy switches outside of wooting as well if you want something else not offered in the store

For example the owlabs he ti are very recommended by a lot of folks right now

[thorn zealot]

for the ttc ones u kinda have to lube them

[glacial wind]

yeah as phish noted just be aware the lube job in the ttc pom and rgb is not there, so it’s usually recommended to lube yourself

if you’re not keen to self lube most would recommend raw he switches or buying owlabs he ti switches outside of wooting store

[thorn zealot]

i thought we said dont rec ttc to newcomers

[visual ore]

Wait what

[glacial wind]

Just depends on if they want to lube or not mostly. Lubing isn’t hard just not everyone wants to do it mainly

[visual ore]

When did we say that?

[thorn zealot]

well i dont think many new ppl want to lube switches for 2+ hrs

[visual ore]

I must have missed it because you guys were the ones to recommend it to me lol

[torpid folio]

is there a point to lubing the ti?

[visual ore]

Church of TTC POM if I recall

[crisp yarrow]

GEON Raw He sounds better for me

[uneven cradle]

I'm deep in this and still don't want to be lubing switches individually

[crisp yarrow]

But I also found the Gateron Jade Pro

[ionic breach]

yes, but it decent enuf

[crisp yarrow]

What about them? Are they old too?

[sacred elm]

get owlab ti he https://unikeyboards.com/products/owlab-ti-he-magnetic-switches?_pos=1&_sid=057cad13e&_ss=r

[torpid folio]

jade pros are ok

[glacial wind]

They’re good, but most would buy the owlab he ti as the better version these days

The new owlab switches are like a tighter stability raw he switch

[ionic breach]

ngl i will wait for tmr

[flint nimbus]

I'm telling you, the Ruby's are like perfected Jade Pro's

[thorn zealot]

i think they are trying to order everything all in one cart

since they are getting module too

[crisp yarrow]

They sound creamy

[sacred elm]

They consider jade pros, wooting doesnt sell them

[thorn zealot]

idk then

they were going through the options on wooting web

[paper bloom]

Yknow what just get RAW

[crisp yarrow]

Either that or those Owlab

[paper bloom]

If u ask me

[crisp yarrow]

How many pieces do I need and which ones 50g or 40g?

[paper bloom]

Owl labs

Are the ones id go for

[paper bloom]

60he is 61

[ionic breach]

yea

[paper bloom]

80he is 90

[crisp yarrow]

Yes, I think I chose them too

[glacial wind]

50g is a safer pick if you’re unsure

[crisp yarrow]

So I need 70 pieces

[crisp yarrow]

But what's that

[paper bloom]

Switch weight

[glacial wind]

That’s how hard to press down a switch is

[paper bloom]

The springs in them

U want it 50g or 40g

[crisp yarrow]

So 40g is 3.5mm or sum?

[paper bloom]

No its just

The weight

When u hit the key

[crisp yarrow]

50g I guess

[paper bloom]

Aka press

[glacial wind]

60g is your old typical mechanical keyboard switch. 50g is a little lighter and 40g is very light

[paper bloom]

1 is easier 1 is less

[crisp yarrow]

But thing is they out of stock

[glacial wind]

you can buy owlabs he ti from a few places if that’s what you’re looking for

Unless they’re all out of stock now

[crisp yarrow]

So what about cases

I couldn't decide and just selected the Aluminium one

Are there any better choices and if possible a wrist rest?

[glacial wind]

That’s fine. Cases is personal preference

Personally if I was going a wooting case I like the optimum the most

[crisp yarrow]

But it's black!! I need white

[paper bloom]

Idm the optimum

Hut the leggera

Is fuckin lit

But*

[glacial wind]

Might be less lit if he’s in US now with new pricing lol

[paper bloom]

Welp L to him

@glacial wind im still thinking if i shld get a 80HE

Or keep my venom60HE for the sake of leggera

[crisp yarrow]

So got any recommendations?

What's this leggera

[paper bloom]

Geonworks 60% case

[glacial wind]

It’s too personal preference for us to just tell you

Especially with a 60% case there is 58362937483 options

[paper bloom]

Ok tell us ur

Standard or

What u want

[stoic herald]

venom60he is faster tho

[paper bloom]

Ik

I have 1

[glacial wind]

If you’re happy with the wooting one look then stick with that case

[paper bloom]

I have a typeplus YIKB stab

Installed with jades

Fits like a dream

[silver pilot]

Can anyone help me with these blank keycaps I dont understand the rows and numbers after it under the keycap

[paper bloom]

Show

[ionic breach]

is it still in order?

in the packaging

[silver pilot]

R4-1f

And then this other one says R2-1

How do I make sense of this 😭

[crisp yarrow]

I took a liking to the Redux60 case

[paper bloom]

Oh

Shit

THEYRE ALL THE SAME LMAO

U BOUGHT KEYCAPS THAT HAS NO LEGENDS

[paper bloom]

OI NA

[crisp yarrow]

Thanks for the help guys

[silver pilot]

But the numbers after the row make 0 sense

I have one that's like

[ionic breach]

can u check a longer cap?

what does it say

[silver pilot]

Sure

One sec

[paper bloom]

@silver pilot U HAVE KEYLESS LEGENDS BRUH

Any works

[silver pilot]

NO SOME ARE TALLER

[paper bloom]

Oh

[silver pilot]

I TRIED THAT ALR

[crisp yarrow]

Wait cable is separate? need to buy that too?

[paper bloom]

Then its a keycap deforrmity

[ionic breach]

60 or 80?

[paper bloom]

U alrdy have 1 in the box

[crisp yarrow]

It's asking me for other options

tools, wrist rest etc

[ionic breach]

nah thats extras

[crisp yarrow]

Alright

[paper bloom]

Not required

[thorn zealot]

so put that one in row 4 and the other in row 2?

[ionic breach]

only 80he module doesnt have

[paper bloom]

YO WHAT

[crisp yarrow]

Going for the wrist rest ofc

Do i need the tools?

[paper bloom]

Srsly?

Bruh moment

[ionic breach]

yea its with the case

[paper bloom]

SHIIT

I nearly shot myself in the fucking food then

Foot*

[silver pilot]

This physically cannot fit in row 1

[ionic breach]

the 2nd number is the size

[silver pilot]

I took this from my ctrl

Key

And it says row 1

☠️

[ionic breach]

o then the picture i sent u

reverse it

[silver pilot]

Oh god

[ionic breach]

r1 is bottom, ig wooting does that

[silver pilot]

wooting is trolling me hard

I had to buy a whole ass key cap puller today for this bull

[silver pilot]

Nope not it either

Just checked two other big ones

With nonsensical rows

Bro I'm about to crash out

This shit was all over the place in the shipping box

[ionic breach]

r1 is the bottom 2 rows

then r2 is the one above that

[silver pilot]

So only r1 has this special property?

[ionic breach]

for a 60% yea

its the same shape

[silver pilot]

So row 3 is the number row correct?

[ionic breach]

r4

[flat cobalt]

Cosmos look so cool under UV light

Someone in the cosmos discord posted it

[thorn zealot]

first pic of cosmos where i can see the legends

[cyan lark]

It's even legible!

Now if only I had a blacklight lying around

[night atlas]

ordered my owlabs TI woohoo

[thorn zealot]

good timing

[night atlas]

fr lol

had to get it before the tariffs

[thorn zealot]

im prob not buying anything online anymore

in near future

[glacial wind]

I think the most absurd part is the ‘only 10%’ tariffs on the countries that didn’t even have tariffs on the US

its like he just got bored and decided to throw those in for everyone just in case

[visual ore]

That isn't the most absurd part

He put tariffs on uninhabited islands

He tariffed the penguins

[glacial wind]

the insanity is we haven’t even seen what the other countries will respond with so this is only the start

[visual ore]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2025/04/02/trump-imposes-tariffs-on-uninhabited-heard-and-mcdonald-islands-remotest-places-on-earth/

[glacial wind]

China is 100% not just going to do nothing in the face of the tariffs

[visual ore]

Yeah the response is going to be wild....

Everyone got hit

[thorn zealot]

so trump put tariffs on penguins

[glacial wind]

Has thockson seen the tariffs yet

[visual ore]

Yup

[glacial wind]

His Owlabs case just became 50% more expensive with no sub $800 exception lol

[thorn zealot]

wait when are these tariffs happening

tmr right

[cyan lark]

Wonder how Ali Express and Temu are gonna handle it

[visual ore]

That's May 2

If you got orders from China do it before May 2

And make sure that includes shipping time

[cyan lark]

I'm afraid they're going into effect much earlier than that https://www.cbsnews.com/news/liberation-day-trump-tariffs-explained/

The baseline 10% tariff will go into effect at 12:01 a.m. on April 5, while the reciprocal rates will become effective at 12:01 a.m. on April 9.

[visual ore]

That's the tariffs

[cyan lark]

Oh you were talking just about de minimis exemption removal?

[visual ore]

I'm talking about this

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/04/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-closes-de-minimis-exemptions-to-combat-chinas-role-in-americas-synthetic-opioid-crisis/

Yeah

[cyan lark]

Gotcha

[glacial wind]

Considering wooting hasn’t listed it in store yet that’s not a good sign for his timing lol

[cyan lark]

I have to imagine they would need to recalibrate

[glacial wind]

oh I mean the owlabs case, might not be out in time for him to order and get it before tariffs hit

[cyan lark]

Right, I'm assuming owlabs/wooting are recalibrating the pricing before it goes on sale.

It's a huge hit

[glacial wind]

Shopify is going to have some fun times trying to figure out how to auto add all the tariffs to everyone’s shops

[cyan lark]

I'd hope their engineers have been working on this since the threats started becoming real a while back 🙂

It does seem like it'll be a common need soon for all online retailers

Or marketplaces I should say

[quasi hinge]

I have a new silver cf plate in transit to a US forwarder rn.... lets see what happens loooool

[cyan lark]

I'm very curious to hear, hope for the best 🤞

[ionic breach]

💀

if these 3 are doing smt together

us is cooked

[chilly mural]

oo yeah, keyboard cleaned

My key with stab now sound suddenly deeper

prop will fix itself later

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-china-tariffs-tarrif-duct-gif-12588556

[calm pulsar]

it's over tape mod bros

[ripe void]

Anyone seen any replacement springs that will fit the tcc poms 80g

[pine anchor]

guys is it worth upgrading from the wooting 60 to the venom 60he or the gt60 pro?

[steel ibex]

if you already have wooting def not

the difference in actuation and delay is so minimal you wont notice it

and wooting's quality and warranty is unrivaled

[polar girder]

If you're trying to placebo max it's definitely worth it

venom has no rgb tho

except for south facing caps lock

but if you're trying to placebo max then you know that RGB only takes away from performance

[pine anchor]

lowkey

we might be on to something

[pine anchor]

can i put gateron jades max on them

[untold wigeon]

Venom pcb alone will be 100 dollars

Gg

[harsh dove]

On Wooting? Yes

[quasi hinge]

People can sell their venoms at a profit 😂

[pine anchor]

is it considered good aswell?

"performance wise"

[harsh dove]

The Jade Maxes? Aren't those the PC ones?

Unless they fixed it I think they have a scratchiness/friction issue

[pine anchor]

huh

its the gold coil one

clear

[harsh dove]

Yeah but they use PC stem which had scratch/friction issues iirc

[pine anchor]

oh

what du u reccomned

[paper bloom]

Duhuks

Or owl TI HE

[paper bloom]

Needs to be hand lubed btw

Or RAW

[quasi hinge]

Best in class (aside from sound) is ttc kom

but you need to hand lube

[harsh dove]

There's a ton of options, depends on what you're looking for but if you want 4mm travel then Lekker v2, if you want shorter travel like 3.5mm then I like the Owlab Ti HE's, Jade Pro's or Rubies, Geon RAW HE, TTC KOM RGB or POMs , there's also the new WS Fluxes

[pine anchor]

like do i put baby oil on that thang or

[quasi hinge]

Nah just KY

Jokes aside, if you are willing to lube, there is a special kind you need

[pine anchor]

oh

i deadass thought it was the baby oil thing

is it like sticky version?

im kinda new to this

[harsh dove]

Nah just need Kyrtox 205g0 for switches

[pine anchor]

can we agree on a genral thing tho

[harsh dove]

Dielectric Grease, Molykote, or XHT BDZ for Stabilizer wires

[pine anchor]

cuz i got duhuk and or owl ttc kom

[pine anchor]

ok

[untold wigeon]

Just use owl

[pine anchor]

what does 0.5 esr mean

[pine anchor]

appriciate it

[harsh dove]

Yeah no problem

[pine anchor]

link for the owls?

[paper bloom]

@harsh dove the owl TI compared to the jades

[harsh dove]

• https://swagkeys.com/products/owlab-ti-he-switch

• https://unikeyboards.com/products/owlab-ti-he-magnetic-switches

and I think they on Aliexpress now

[paper bloom]

The Ti is better right ?

Or is it compared to raws

[harsh dove]

I personally think so, but I don't know if they are actually better when it comes to stability/flux test, but to me they feel more stable

Not like a crazy difference though

[paper bloom]

Ah ok ig the owl TI needs more testing thrn

[harsh dove]

Bigger difference when compared to RAWs yeah

[pine anchor]

saw video

[paper bloom]

Then*

Thats good

[pine anchor]

owls> raws

from mikey types

[harsh dove]

Yeah people have been calling the Owls basically RAW v2s

just tighter version of RAWs with fully closed bottom

[pine anchor]

wbats the diff between 50 g and 40 g

i dont understand

[harsh dove]

Spring weight

basically amount of resistance when pressing a key down

heavier means more resistance, lighter is less resistance

[fluid ravine]

lol im still considering lol

waiting for flux

[harsh dove]

Hahah right, I think the Owls are a solid option