🔧│keyboard_modding

[silent bison]

no i have it balanced on both sides

so i dont think wire balancing is the problem

[fluid ravine]

Placebo by chance but I'll take your word

What abt space bar cap?

[silent bison]

i just wanted the rebound sound to be back because it dosnt feel any satisfying

[fluid ravine]

Is that warped

[silent bison]

wdym

[fluid ravine]

Yes I know which is because of the holee mod

[fluid ravine]

Is the space bar keycap warped

[silent bison]

no

is it supposed to be wrapped in anything?

[fluid ravine]

I'm trying to identify the ticking problem to get to the actual fix

[fluid ravine]

Warped<-

[silent bison]

oh warped not wrapped

no

new keycaps

[forest jacinth]

it straight

[silent bison]

i think it could be the lube slid back from the end of the wire which caused the little ticking

thats when i dont use holee tho

[forest jacinth]

my gmk spacebar not fully straight

[fluid ravine]

Cus here's the thing, most stabs properly lubed can sound good without having to add extra mods like holee mods, plumbers mod, etc. It is best to keep it minimal so you don't run into more problems.

Unless really needed

[fluid ravine]

All 4 of my gmk bars are wanted but they all sound even on my stabs anyways

Benefits of tight fit on a keycap

[silent bison]

i holee modded another set of stabs on my tactile keyboard and it dosnt have that issue so i think its perhaps becuase the he switches rebound isnt violent enough

[fluid ravine]

Well I was in the same road as you here tbh :/

[silent bison]

welp im js stuck with a no rebound set of stabs on my wooting now

🤷‍♂️

[fluid ravine]

Well mb Im not good at like identifying problems for other people through discord and all that. But I'm just saying that holee mod does need a break in period for it to smoothen out for it to sound normal, but most of the time all you need is lube. Overtime holee mod doesn't last that long as it will slip out and gush out of the stem hole which then you may have to reapply. Another thing is that even after breaking in, there will still be a most likely chance it will still feel sluggish. When you tune stabs it's best to start off with a lil amount of lube, which is where less is more come into play. And if you notice rattle, then add more lube to the wire. Another thing is that too much lube can also cause tick, even things such as warped wire or a warped space bar cap, even if there is empty space between the space bar cap and stem.

[silent bison]

wait too much lube cause tick?

[fluid ravine]

Tbh I would say stab mods aren't really needed unless it's REALLY needed

[fluid ravine]

Yes

[silent bison]

never knew that

what for?

its cusioned fully with lubed tho so whats ticking

[fluid ravine]

I learnt that from others and discovered that myself

[silent bison]

from physics point of view

[silent bison]

zamn

[fluid ravine]

I haven't taken physics yet so I can't tell you nuthin

[silent bison]

would my stab leave any residue of i take off the holee mod

thats what im most afraid of

[fluid ravine]

Uh yes

[forest jacinth]

ye

[silent bison]

damn

[forest jacinth]

sticky

[fluid ravine]

But are you gonna reapply the holee mod is the problem

[silent bison]

yeah i think ill just let it sit there for now

[kind helm]

JUST DONT DO HOLEE MOD UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR STAB TO BE MUSHY

[silent bison]

probably not if im gonna take it out

[fluid ravine]

^^^

[forest jacinth]

this is how my wooting looks

[fluid ravine]

Well conclusion basically

[forest jacinth]

l or w?

[silent bison]

w

[fluid ravine]

Cute, w

Good color choices

[forest jacinth]

love red and white

[kind helm]

bro casually writing more eassays, i ain reading all that

[fluid ravine]

Anyways yeah id advise not using stab mods and go full lube

[kind helm]

reading hurts

[fluid ravine]

[silent bison]

this is how mine looks

[fluid ravine]

More than I write at school frfr

[forest jacinth]

thats so sick

actual w

[fluid ravine]

PBT set of Olivia clones?

Not bad

[fallen pecan]

is that their latest metal case?

[fluid ravine]

Aftermarket I think

[silent bison]

no part of this is olivia lol

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

Fr?

[fallen pecan]

says madlions bottom right

[fluid ravine]

It has the color theme of it

[silent bison]

white japanese main with i think a black pink red set

[fluid ravine]

Oh I'm blind lol

[silent bison]

mixed matched

[fluid ravine]

As a whole set?

[silent bison]

no i mixed 2 sets together

[fluid ravine]

Oh I see

[silent bison]

wooting didnt have a white case so i bought another white he keyboard just for the case and the foam pack lol

[fluid ravine]

Well my board is on my pfp so

[fallen pecan]

they're selling a metal version now

[fluid ravine]

Alumaze

[silent bison]

and didnt felt like spending 60 dollars plus shipping for a metal case

[forest jacinth]

send a picture

[silent bison]

yeah but its so expensive you can get another custom board solo

[silent bison]

that actually looks really clean

but worth the price tag tho?

i think not

[fluid ravine]

Dayum

[fallen pecan]

$45 in china

[fluid ravine]

[kind helm]

cheaper than wooting

[fluid ravine]

Actually true

This board costed almost $100-200 less than my wooting

[glacial wind]

i get a feeling a lot of 'ticking' that sometimes people say they can't solve isn't ticking but just natural stab sound based on the switches they have installed + normal stab movement and people try to remove that thinking it's ticking

[calm pulsar]

wdym price tag, it's hella cheap and one of the best builds you can do on HE now

[fluid ravine]

Damn people be like that these days?

[kind helm]

yea same

[forest jacinth]

what set did you use joshiba

keycap

[glacial wind]

people don't even really know what ticking/rattle is half the time. they just watched a youtube video talk about it and think perfect stabs means no sound at all, which just isn't how they work

[kind helm]

which joshiba are you talkin to LMAO

[fluid ravine]

GMK desert base Botanical

[calm pulsar]

me

[forest jacinth]

other one haha

[fluid ravine]

No me!

[glacial wind]

the actual funny thing is some switches actually sound like spacebar rattle in the 80he

raw he being one of them where with certain combination of stabs sounds like rattle

but it's just the rebound sound and the case making it sound like that

[fallen pecan]

Does geon sell this on the main site?

[kind helm]

WHERE DID YOU FIND THAT

[fluid ravine]

Very

[fluid ravine]

YO

GIMME

[kind helm]

120 yuan is 20 dolla btw

[fallen pecan]

TYPIST CLUB on taobao

[kind helm]

DAMN

sauceinmyvein my goat

omg

[fallen pecan]

they have full stock of both leggeras

[calm pulsar]

does it say wooting compatible for the weight

[fallen pecan]

yes it does

[kind helm]

the owner hella nice

[calm pulsar]

good to know

[kind helm]

brought my venom from him

[fallen pecan]

they brought in raws to taobao way before kbdfans

[kind helm]

supposedly they started their sell for leggera on 24 this month

but i didnt check

damn didnt know they have that

[kind helm]

yea the guy partner with geon

[fluid ravine]

@silent bison
Frog Mini Legger G Cream- $69
GMK desert base Botanical- $135
TypeplisxYIKB stabs- $15
Alu plate- $25
Venom 60HE 7U PCB- $65
DuhuksxRaw Frankenstein: $60 (abt there)
Total: 434

Damn switches made it more expensive than I thought

[kind helm]

copper plate

for 120 yuan

20 dolla

omg

my goat

[fluid ravine]

Yo grab me one

[calm pulsar]

also gmk can be replaced with smth else for cheaper build

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

Yup

100%

The main parts are pcb, plate, case, and stabs

Which are like

$174

Or $169

Depending on stab price

[kind helm]

@fluid ravine gonna help me pay 25% shipping or nah :3

[fluid ravine]

How much is that

[kind helm]

actually nvm let me think

if i buy i cover the shipping from cn to us for you

but between my place to your place you pay :3

[fluid ravine]

O

[fluid ravine]

I wonder how much that is actually

[kind helm]

you think cream with copper the move?

[fluid ravine]

How much does the weight or plate weigh?

[fluid ravine]

Dunno

Is there more?

[kind helm]

not mentioned

only option

[fluid ravine]

@kind helm

[kind helm]

alright done ordering now

[fluid ravine]

LOL

Got no choice then

Fk it we ball

Lmk how much shipping is when u get it

[kind helm]

when i ordered the plates and pcb

hopefully its around the same

through DHL HongKong

[fallen pecan]

you guys are getting this for venom right

[kind helm]

who cares about wooting

[fallen pecan]

[untold wigeon]

wrd

[kind helm]

i think i shouldve asked cam

but emmm

too late now hehe

asking the owner rn how heavy that thing is

[fallen pecan]

you can still cancel, the purchasing isn't instant

[kind helm]

they already paid :3

the middle man already paid taobao

[fallen pecan]

dang that's quick

[fluid ravine]

Dayum

[kind helm]

still takes like half month so lay back

[fallen pecan]

my weidian purchases usually take at least 30 mins

[kind helm]

maybe a chill afternoon for cn rn

[fluid ravine]

Rip to CAM then

He mightve wanted one

[fallen pecan]

he can add another order, it doesnt ship until he pays for consolidation

[fluid ravine]

[kind helm]

thats true :3

[fluid ravine]

@harsh dove

Wake up!

It's almost the first of da month!

[kind helm]

this was a sign then

[fluid ravine]

Lmao

[harsh dove]

Sure I'll take one if you can add it to order

[night vortex]

ok. Why is that?

[kind helm]

@harsh dove @fluid ravine wanna get some oring as well?

[harsh dove]

Nah, I have some, thanks tho

[kind helm]

got reply from the owner

the plate is just 50g

so its pretty much nothin

just for the look :3

[harsh dove]

how much does the forged carbon weigh

[kind helm]

yee mainly asked because of the material

according to the owner in a different convo, the viton one is bouncier than the silicon one, but i am not sure how they are different from the rest though

[kind helm]

idk probably pretty light too if not lighter

[silent bison]

thats ur build?

sounds really nice

let me get a peak at the sound

[kind helm]

paid 40 dolla on stems

[fluid ravine]

Well..

[fluid ravine]

Uh yeah lemme find it

[harsh dove]

Took foams and polyfill out

[chilly jasper]

are there any aftermarket 80he cases coming out or that are available

[kind helm]

saved

[fluid ravine]

@silent bison https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1351760793062080582

[fluid ravine]

Lessgoo

CAM did you see the thing from josh

[harsh dove]

about the copper weight?

[fluid ravine]

Yeh

[harsh dove]

yeah

I said add one if he can

otherwise its fine

[kind helm]

i did sir

[untold wigeon]

hey cam

[fluid ravine]

Copper on cream

[fluid ravine]

YESSIRR

[untold wigeon]

can i ask a favor of you

[harsh dove]

depends

[calm pulsar]

for the looks its nice, but otherwise 50g is meh

[untold wigeon]

can i please get ur frog

[fluid ravine]

Hmm

[harsh dove]

No

[untold wigeon]

200 usd

please

bro

bro

bro

please

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

Still gonna be a mo

No*

[kind helm]

thought you were talkin about this for a moment hehe

[calm pulsar]

arent there frogs on mechmarket

[untold wigeon]

zero mouse

clone

[kind helm]

does your bumpon still fall out if you slide it?

i want while bumpon like yours so the back look extra good

[silent bison]

That sounds really good

Is it because of the case that you were able to make it that clacky

[kind helm]

@fallen pecan do you know if ti he is on taobao rn?

since that is sold out on unikey maybe i just grab it through taobao as well

[fallen pecan]

not yet, ill know when it goes up

[silent bison]

I always wanted to build a clack build like that but i never could get it close with a plastic case

[calm pulsar]

@kind helm alr time for a change

[kind helm]

https://tenor.com/view/nba-basketball-lebron-james-king-james-nba-finals-gif-4050591

[fluid ravine]

Actually no, I trimmed it by a mm so it fits in the whole great, no slide

[kind helm]

lets go

[fluid ravine]

Everything of my build made it clacky tbh, it's all positive factors

The case, mount, plate, switches, keycap/material

It all falls into its puzzle pieces

[fluid ravine]

Thx btw

[fluid ravine]

Right??

[kind helm]

now i need some ti he to complete everything

[fluid ravine]

Me like

[kind helm]

fck

more money

[fluid ravine]

getting leh fluxes to see wsp

[kind helm]

i just brought 70 extra raws for nothin i feel :3 almost time to put down those raws

OR

patience

wait for hmx?

[fluid ravine]

Hmmm

[fluid ravine]

I unno tbh

Wait for reviewer ig

[kind helm]

if the akko one is not the hmx switch that they were talkin bout

in the article

[fluid ravine]

If you wanna get need switches for leggera

Might as well wait if they ain't gonna ship it out immediately

[kind helm]

i mean raw is good :3

[fluid ravine]

But we can go further

[kind helm]

geon's leggera uses raw :3

are you going to doubt mr geon's choice

i think not

i rest my case

[fluid ravine]

I mean I haven't tried raws in my board sooo

Guess I'm skipping out

[calm pulsar]

HE vs MX

I wonder how my venom would sound in lx60

probably quieter than frog

but maybe not that much cause of the characteristic HE thud

[silent bison]

I wanna know whats so good about the venom module vs the wooting module

Kept seeing venom module builds more and more often

[fluid ravine]

Personally if you ask my opinions on why I bought venom, it's most because of the layout and mounting option

I use to own the wooting 60he, the non plus one a 2 years back

[calm pulsar]

yeah those are two actually noticeable things, everything else not so much

[fluid ravine]

Yeh

[calm pulsar]

like 8khz or whatever

[fluid ravine]

Like 8k and firmware

Not too crazy

But I'm personally big on the actual keyboard shiz rather than the tech.

Usually HE peeps would put like performance and firmware first, but as other keyboard enthusiasts I put the build/board itself first and have the tech as a secondary concern

Kinds like a nice to have kinda saying lol

[calm pulsar]

which is why I switches to MX
well I still want HE tech being avilable so I have 2 boards

[fluid ravine]

Proof the HE is getting closer to MX real quik

[fluid ravine]

Exactly

But life of being poor rn

So rip me

I wanna go back to MX but my old MX board was booty

Need to make moni

[kind helm]

i think let my salv go back to mx after leggera comes

[fluid ravine]

Don't wanna work in an actual job, I want to actually do keyboard services or commissions lol

[fluid ravine]

Bet

[calm pulsar]

tbh I think the difference is quite big rn, but it's also top mount on frog mini which might highlight the differences more

I'd love to try out leggera

[jagged obsidian]

GMk striker 2 or GMk evil eye

[kind helm]

i sell you mine if i am not impressed

[fluid ravine]

Oh yeah sure

[calm pulsar]

funny if I press 3 MX keys at once, it is around as loud as 1 HE key

[kind helm]

[calm pulsar]

well I will try venom in a true gummy oring case soon

once I make it work with lx60

[kind helm]

@stone flax unc, broken in cherry black worth buying or nah? i am thinking some cherry black with decent spring on salv + fr4 plate

gonna put this set on the leggera i think

[tiny bough]

hello, does wooting sell a black PC switch plate for the 80 he?

[glacial wind]

Nope. You’d have to look at 3rd party

[kind helm]

mr sno, do you know if geon sells a copper back plate for leggera in kr?

mr jabberwock found a copper backplate for leggera on taobao. i wonder if they only made for cn or it is something planned by geon

[silent bison]

Neither really matter to me so ig ill stick with my wooting

[glacial wind]

he doesn't as far as I see. He might have at the prelaunch ordering maybe, but not for just in stock sale

[jagged obsidian]

GMk striker 2 or GMk evil eye ( I like both equally I’m just having trouble deciding which)

[glacial wind]

yeah just stick to whatever you have now, whether it's venom or wooting. Outside of layout changes upgrading keyboard isn't really a thing that needs to be done regularly at all - at least not until something on the level of rapid trigger comes out again one day

[tawdry token]

Those are sold out too 😦 I had no idea they were going so fast, I would have checked back earlier so thats my fault too

[brave cloak]

I was using a dell 8115 before the wooting kek

[fringe quarry]

cant wait for rapidtrigger 2

[chilly mural]

Yeah!!! It now uses intent to actuate and deactuate the keys

Just needs neurolink and $10 a month subscription

[calm pulsar]

striker

[jagged obsidian]

Ok I was going to go with striker since that one caught my eye first

[sweet oak]

@tulip rapids

[ripe void]

Great detail i have been looking for some good custom iso enter carnt find any anywhere

[untold wigeon]

Wow sprigatito

Is there one for quaxly

[sweet oak]

Yep

[untold wigeon]

please send

[untold wigeon]

i need

how much is this

[sweet oak]

44 usd

[untold wigeon]

leggera can wait

[ripe void]

On the gt80 do u need a daughter board mine was just the pre built 80he

[sacred elm]

you move daughterboard from your prebuilt 80he

and then use their jst cable

[tawdry tree]

WS Flux news: Next week on Wuque’s Ali store. 😃👍

[chilly mural]

Yey

[tawdry tree]

Not yet. We don’t know the price.. 😬

[chilly mural]

It's fine, just wanna see how many will get it

Just got owlab Tee Hee

So won't be buying new switches for a while

[glacial wind]

ali store still be nice, then you can take advantage of the quarterly big sales

then try coupon stack to get it under $1 a switch, but i guess depends if their real pricing is the -35% price or they actually intend to do $2 a switch after initial launch

[tawdry tree]

I’m guessing it’s gonna be $2 a switch with free shipping

I hope they sell lower amounts as well though

[glacial wind]

that'll be disappointing if it's that price

[tawdry tree]

most of their other stuff on the ali store is slightly up charged compared to their actual store

even listings that don’t have free shipping

some ali tax prob

new colors wow

[ripe void]

Does kbt have anything else cool worth getting apart from gt80 where can you get custom straps

[tawdry tree]

keycaps?

kbt?

kbdfans?

[ripe void]

Sorry kbdsfan

[tawdry tree]

they have a lot of stuff

tools, switches, keycaps

[ripe void]

Ordered the anodized silver to go with the caps I ordered

[little glen]

tools, spacebar foam if that interests you, switches, keycaps, that one brush that you can use to keep your stuff clean

stabiliser maybe too

lots of things on kbdfans store

[calm pulsar]

im going bankrupt💀

[ripe void]

Does anyone no where to get a cool strap for the boards ?

[stone flax]

rip awekeys

good luck bro

[ripe void]

What u mean ?

[stone flax]

pretty ass caps but if thats ur thing then no judgement ig

[quasi hinge]

Still waiting to see numbers on them

Ive already loaded my cart 3 times and backed out

Placebo edge max itch

[little glen]

i gotta stop browsing geekhack 😭

found 2 more ICs of caps i really want and now i'm losing my mind

i have to stop buying keycaps

[jaunty grove]

Which is better? Optimum Alumaze or tofu? And yeah I just realised salvation has a bouncy feel, which fs won’t feel great while I’m playing games

[kind helm]

do you have a salvation?

[jaunty grove]

No TvT

But aligner did say that to me

[kind helm]

it is not that bouncy or at least not bouncy in the way you think

[jaunty grove]

Is it really better than all the other options?

[kind helm]

https://tenor.com/view/preference-glarses-mx-brown-cherry-mx-brown-keyboard-gif-21044520

[jaunty grove]

Can someone exactly explain me what fric vs spring leaf exactly even mean

[kind helm]

leaf spring mount check out salvation 60 reviews online, friction mount i think is explained in modding_faq

[stone flax]

johshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiba

[stone flax]

yeah its bouncy

[stone flax]

preference

[kind helm]

good morning uuuuuuuuuuuncle mj

[kind helm]

i ordered a leggera last night

[stone flax]

hellllo nephew

[stone flax]

ayoo

what config

[kind helm]

with cream

[stone flax]

shii

[kind helm]

hehehehehehehe

[idle warren]

Anyone know anything about the OW 60he case? looks pretty interesting for a case swap

[stone flax]

looks gimmicky

[idle warren]

I kinda dig it, Gives me matrix vibes

[stone flax]

designs deffo out there

[stone flax]

oh 100

[idle warren]

But I'm assuming wooting hasn't made an announcement

[static aurora]

Soon™️

[round sparrow]

it's gonna be expensive

[tropic urchin]

Good morning joshiba debtson

[safe sphinx]

is there anywhere i can get iso 80he plates

[calm pulsar]

guten morgen

[tropic urchin]

Доброе утро hehe

[jaunty grove]

True but I wouldn’t want my pcb to bounce when I’m playing a match

[stone flax]

why would it

u can add or remove leaf spring points

[jaunty grove]

True

But I’m thinking of getting the normal 80he, do you think that’s better? With the geon raw switches

I’m just kinda worried about the size factor since I kind of like a 60% kb and not tkl

[idle warren]

I'm going to assume it's a 350-450$ board, depending on the specs I might get one.

That is, if it isn't a raffle type sale

[round sparrow]

case

[sacred elm]

its only case that is 300$ min

not the whole board

[round sparrow]

yeah the whole board is gonna be another 120 bucks min

[sacred elm]

shamelessly overpriced

garbaggo

[idle warren]

I’m talking about the case alone, no pcb etc included

We don’t know how many pieces it is, but it’s an owlabs board. They aren’t known to be cheap

[round sparrow]

well we have this

[kind helm]

[round sparrow]

slow joshiba

[stone flax]

genuine insanity

[kind helm]

personally think its overcooked

[stone flax]

all this for the keyboard to not sound good

[kind helm]

all this to cope wooting L usbc port imo :3

just get venom™

[tidal frigate]

Venom user copium

[calm pulsar]

did you buy your 400 mid case already

[tidal frigate]

Not yet

[jaunty grove]

Do I need to lube Poms? And can I just use any kind of lube? Do I need to lube my stabs?

[kind helm]

@fallen pecan do you have 闲鱼?

[stone flax]

i want my 60cu so genuinely badly

my body is aching for it

i need it

its gonna be so fire

i just know

[kind helm]

surly you placed order right?

surly

[calm pulsar]

that's cope, get owlabs

[fallen pecan]

i have it downloaded, but i only do window shopping on it

[kind helm]

can you help me find some cable for op1 8k

just need a name preferably also the link so i can get it through superbuy

since i am getting stuff through there might as well. didn't even know they have that on 闲鱼 but saw it on bilibili

these two were mentioned under some page i saw

[fallen pecan]

xianyu is chinese ebay

mostly used stuff

[kind helm]

yea idk why shit is not on taobao

[fallen pecan]

【闲鱼】https://m.tb.cn/h.6e5LGV8?tk=3EzNewVhPkJ MF287 「快来捡漏【op1 8k原厂替换线】」
点击链接直接打开

【闲鱼】https://m.tb.cn/h.6ekToUf?tk=IcRMewVhqh4 HU293 「快来捡漏【op18k紫透原装散绳线 拆机线】」
点击链接直接打开

[kind helm]

not the 原厂 ones

i want some thin boi

[fallen pecan]

【闲鱼】https://m.tb.cn/h.6e9oGZS?tk=KLIEewViQab CZ005 「快来捡漏【『现货』EGG OP1 8K替换超细线】」
点击链接直接打开

【闲鱼】https://m.tb.cn/h.6eqWtYX?tk=kI5OewV8lWi HU006 「快来捡漏【『48H』碳纤维OP1 8K减重底壳】」
点击链接直接打开

[kind helm]

i love you brother

[fallen pecan]

2nd link is a cf bottom for the op18k

[kind helm]

yee i dont need a bottom, i have this hehe

100 yuan for that cable kinda nutty

damn

[jaunty grove]

What?

[thorn zealot]

Should I cop

[kind helm]

i ain doing more

[thorn zealot]

U can be us distributor

[kind helm]

fck no dude :3

[thorn zealot]

Surely u can make up the money through ppls shipping

For the plate

Not for everything else u bought

[fallen pecan]

that's for the strap

[kind helm]

everything gonna get packed together for shipping

[thorn zealot]

Tbh I don’t think the copper will way that much heavier

[kind helm]

only 50g

its for the look for me

its gonna be hot af for the cream case

[idle warren]

Ahh didn’t know this was available. Considering the amount of pieces, machining and (assuming) low moq. This doesn’t seem too bad

[thorn zealot]

Yeah

[kind helm]

thanks again man. i wasnt able to find any cable in us. you da best

[thorn zealot]

Do u have link

[fallen pecan]

Early access bois

[kind helm]

500 ain bad

[idle warren]

Roughly 375~ no?

[fallen pecan]

nah these are scalper resale prices

[fallen pecan]

retail's gonna be a bit lower

[idle warren]

I was doing euro math, but already on resale before global launch

Average mnk moment

[fallen pecan]

ah not that much, it went for 2799 rmb for round 1

[cyan lark]

I think you need to finish building your mouse dude

[polar girder]

Ay yo

[thorn zealot]

@kind helm

[warped yoke]

Hey guys! I just lubed 90 switches and after I have done everything, I noticed that there is a small notch in the stem. Is it important that these are orientated to north or to south? Or doesnt it make any difference?

[jaunty grove]

Why are guys on the iqunix server so retarded TvT

One guy said he can feel the difference between 8k and 1k polling

And that’s why iqunix is better

[cyan lark]

Lekker v2? Doesn't matter the orientation.

[cyan lark]

There's plenty of folks on here that will say the same (or 0.000001mm RT, etc etc) 🤷

[jaunty grove]

Honestly I was planning to get the iqunix but I don’t think I’ll have the same kind of software and help

[sacred elm]

yea surely

leave that server

😭

[errant meadow]

Anything over 1k polling is almost placebo even in mouse

[sacred elm]

well youll notice misinputs with that low rapid trigger, so technically it is noticeable

[jaunty grove]

I already did

[sacred elm]

at least on mouse you can notice slight difference on high refresh rate monitor, but definitely not on a keyboard. its bs

[jaunty grove]

Now the only issue i have with Wooting is the case idk what case to get

[sacred elm]

if you want to buy everything from wooting, get optimum

and friction fit pad

[errant meadow]

Kbdfans Gt80 is an upgrade ngl

[jaunty grove]

I like myself a 60% kb

And idk any other brand which has a software like Wooting

[errant meadow]

Optimum collab then

Or the upcoming gt60

[jaunty grove]

What mount is that

The gt60

[fringe quarry]

gt80 seemed kinda mid in reviews

[sacred elm]

how is it mid

[fringe quarry]

sounded worse then the zinc one

[sacred elm]

preference

it looks way better and the ball catch design is cool

[fringe quarry]

looks maybe ye

[jaunty grove]

The issue I have is ttc poms in the store TvT

[errant meadow]

In the website. You can choose whatever. Pcb, plate etc

[jaunty grove]

I CANNOT JUST NOT BUY THEM

[cyan lark]

Looks is also preference 🙂

But the ball catch design is cool for sure

[stone flax]

nah

[calm pulsar]

the design of the balls is surely nice

[stone flax]

if u cant tell 1k to 8k on a mouse ur either on a badly implemented mouse or ur also the type of person who cant distinguish 144hz and 240hz

deaduzz

[cyan lark]

I agree, you cannot not avoid missing buying them

[fringe quarry]

yall think someone would just buy the zinc case off me 🤔

[sacred elm]

https://clips.twitch.tv/YummyStrangeLeopardKAPOW-q97PUb12krGd6W3_

[jaunty grove]

And that’s what just pushes my expenditure over 500$ bro TvT

[cyan lark]

The good news is that KoM POMs are real nice 🙂

[warped yoke]

Yes!

[jaunty grove]

Stopppp

😭😭😭😭😭

Do I need to lube my stabs?

[errant meadow]

There are a lot of variables. 8k polling effectiveness also depends on the games you play. Also 8k polling in mouse has cpu issues and frame drops in some games

And even then, it only has a minimal effect on your kda with or without 🤣🤣🤣

[kind helm]

@harsh dove here you go, weight for the original plate

[sacred elm]

2k is enough

8k

[kind helm]

for 500fps 2k is enough :3

stable 1000fps somehow then i would go 4k

[sacred elm]

depends on a monitor too, on 144hz it doesnt matter if you have 1k or 2k polling

we are placebo maxxing so, we use 8k polling on 60hz monitor

[kind helm]

based on the test i saw, at 1k polling, 500 fps shows missing input from mouse at some frame

[cyan lark]

Possibly. If you're buying new stabs, they will come unlubed. If you're using the stock ones, you may still want to take a pass at them.

[kind helm]

but really minimal and at high speed movement

[sacred elm]

my monitor is pretty bad 144hz va, so i can see no difference between 1k and 4k-8k. so i just set 2k and call it a day

[jaunty grove]

Wootings stock stabs

[kind helm]

blue dot is mouse input not shown on the frame but can be read if the game has subtick
green dot is mouse input shown on the frame
red dot means that within a particular frame the game did not receive a mouse input

i do 2k too and gonna leave it until somehow my pc can do 1000+ fps stable

in the games i play :3

[stone flax]

skrill issue

input clarity

[sacred elm]

i use 8k now because anything lower is not stable on my beastx currently, there should be new firmware that fixes it this week, then ill use 2k

[kind helm]

thats fcked

[stone flax]

LeastX

[sacred elm]

ok

[fringe quarry]

someone gotta make a cheap alternative for beastx mice

[errant meadow]

Beastx is the cheap alternative

[sacred elm]

what

cheap alternative of what

[errant meadow]

Finalmouse

[round sparrow]

Beast x already are the "cheap" alternative

[sacred elm]

finalmeme

[errant meadow]

Ah yiiiz memories

[fringe quarry]

basically cost the same

just easier available

[errant meadow]

I remember the batch 1 issues with the finalmeme

[sacred elm]

like beastx isnt a better mouse

[errant meadow]

Then beastx went viral

[errant meadow]

Cheaper for me at least in my region

[sacred elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984799440072220692/1355140744574144782/image.png?ex=67ea7baa&is=67e92a2a&hm=2ac6e4d8b75fbdcc50cc1d4ffe638bdb9d170bfbc88fa380ea8bed520da30c54&

guys 200$ mouse but these scratches are normal!

[fringe quarry]

i lowkey actually didnt notice

[stray tiger]

Unacceptable

[cyan lark]

I cannot win in Fortnite with a scratch like that

[errant meadow]

Im Happy with my crap deathadder v3 pro🤣

[crimson sky]

that massive of a molding defect is massive amateur hour tho

[errant meadow]

Literally 3 months after purchase has scroll wheel issues 🤣

[sacred elm]

people still buy their mice

actual mystery

[errant meadow]

Had a good experience with viper mini actually. That made me buy the dav3pro

[steel ibex]

is it that bad?

[sacred elm]

i meant finalmouse btw, dunno hows dav3 but their viper v3 is great

[peak breach]

Im pretty happy with my finalmouse

And i got the famous piss yellow aceu mouse

Except mine never turned yellow

[fringe quarry]

logitech copying finalmouse features now lol

[steel ibex]

my pulsefire haste wireless is going strong after 3 years

its great lmao apart from the copium amount of dust and hair inside the mouse due to the holes (which i can clean with isopropal and a qtip)

would love to get a wlmouse sometime though

[errant meadow]

Ye 3 mos i got scroll wheel issues. Misinput/jumping not sure the technical term. Since i already know warranty's going to be bad in my region, i had the scroll wheel sensor replaced with ttc gold by a friend. And it was kinda an upgrade so im happy with it now

[steel ibex]

-2% WWWWWWWWWW

[steel ibex]

i bought my brohter a mx master 3s and it broke down on him this month

the switches broke

which seem to be a common issue with it

apart from that its a great mouse though

hes using my baslisk v3 hyperspeed rn

[ripe void]

I just got some xray jade's well good

[steel ibex]

i wish the baslisk had a lightweight version the v3 is a brick

[tawdry tree]

Anyone tried keychron mice?

Wanna know if the software/firmware is decent

[round sparrow]

Just get the angrymiao mouse

[ripe void]

Does finalmouse have software ?

[fallen pecan]

https://mechkeys.com/products/mchose-g7?variant=46839152247007 here ya go

[round sparrow]

Web based

[steel ibex]

it looks like a baslisk v2 or smth lol

[tawdry tree]

Somewhat lightweight ergo

Kinda wanna try it

[steel ibex]

im tempted lowk

[ripe void]

I really liked the pulsar software looks old but has every setting

[steel ibex]

ngl though i think i would rather get a WL mouse

[fallen pecan]

close enough tho

different price bracket

[stone flax]

I would rather get a finalmouse than a wlmouse

[tawdry tree]

what was this site called again?

[stone flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1168186363389161624/1350763261007757413/ScreenRecording_03-15-2025_23-25-51_1.gif

[fallen pecan]

eloshapes

[agile grove]

it’s fine if you want a worse product man

but nobody really asked

[stone flax]

nah

its better

Whats better than finalmouse iyo

Da ulx

[agile grove]

superlight v2 obv 🙄

[steel ibex]

this is sick

n64 inspired mouse

[stone flax]

LOL!

[round sparrow]

Angrymiao better cause infinite battery

[agile grove]

nes*

[agile grove]

nah i’m trolling

[steel ibex]

mb

i never owned one as a small child lmao

still awesome concept for a mouse though

this is also an interesting mousepa

[stone flax]

Thicc butt

[agile grove]

this is so ugly

[round sparrow]

I kind of like the design if it didnt have the branding

[sacred elm]

thats cool, but nobody asked

[round sparrow]

I did

[agile grove]

LMAO THATS WHAT I SAID

[stone flax]

rent

is free

[agile grove]

I stay hating finalmeme

[steel ibex]

wasent their whole like

selling point

just light mice

that had bad quality

[ripe void]

That looks cool asf hope they do a different colour tho

[round sparrow]

They have a dark one too

[peak breach]

Wooting fighting game controller when?

[stray tiger]

Right after the Wooting mouse

I upgraded from the V2 pro to the V3 pro because my mouse wheel just wouldn't work. Tried everything. And I just can't get the V3 to feel as good as my v2 did so I like that you guys share nice, gives me some ideas.

[fringe quarry]

v3 pro of what?

[steel ibex]

he mouse?

[fringe quarry]

💀

[stray tiger]

Razer

[fringe quarry]

what model tho

[steel ibex]

you cannot tell me that they did not copy paste the same picture

[stray tiger]

Viper

[steel ibex]

guys super sale

[stray tiger]

@fringe quarry

[fringe quarry]

ye quite different shape

then the one before it

[steel ibex]

is the best x max just bigger then the best x pro?

[stray tiger]

What would be a good V2 pro alternative?

[steel ibex]

i might just get beast x pro with sides filled

[fringe quarry]

uh not sure honestly

[steel ibex]

once i stop being broke

[fringe quarry]

wasnt my shape so didnt look into it further

[stray tiger]

I need to see if there is someplace I can send the V2 to have the scroll wheel sensor replaced. I know nothing about mice components

It would double or triple scroll when using it. I blew it out with air and everything else they suggested and it would work for a day and then eventually it stopped fixing it

[fallen pecan]

good time to swap

[thorn zealot]

Found the best and fastest way to lube switches

[stray tiger]

Ghibli filter doing pretty good lol

[round sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/headache-stupid-people-oh-my-god-omg-oh-my-gosh-gif-22026951

[tidal frigate]

Now try ghibli filter on sander eating switches

[stray tiger]

This was the original

Was a 70's wedding we went to a few months ago

[stone flax]

……….,.

[sweet oak]

This is how you plock (poppy lubed CLOCKY THOCKY CLACK CLACK GAAAAA)

[stray tiger]

You need to use something thicker or it'll just leak out. I usually just dunk them in vaseline

[sweet oak]

Oh you use TAA on your switches?

[thorn zealot]

oh i see

good idea

[polar girder]

That’s disgusting

[stray tiger]

Ready for match 3?

[sweet oak]

Screw it

Butter up your switches chat

The REAL meta

[uneven cradle]

Can try turning your mouse upside down and rolling it across your mousepad 2-3 times quite quickly, sounds silly but can get some of the dust out from the sensor

[stray tiger]

I'd try anything. Wonder if there is a guide online on taking it apart and cleaning the sensors

[sacred elm]

its a great mouse

[steel ibex]

v3 pro or beast x pro

[sweet oak]

Loving my solid sides beast x tho

[steel ibex]

my dream mouse fr

dude

[sacred elm]

both

[steel ibex]

if there was like a 40g solid mouse

[sweet oak]

But ye both are great

[steel ibex]

with good quality and good software

ez cop

no hestitation

as long as its below like 200$

[sweet oak]

Crazylight? I don’t remember its weight tho

[sacred elm]

kinda want to try solid sides too

[stone flax]

Ulx large

[sacred elm]

💀

[safe sphinx]

do i just need to lube stock wooting stabs to make them not sound horrible

[uneven cradle]

Well if you wanted to try something fun there's the Lamzu Tachi it has easy access screws for taking apart the mouse and has hot swappable switches too

[steel ibex]

no finalmouse

[sacred elm]

hitscan hyperlight

[stone flax]

Scyrox

[steel ibex]

also does anyone have good skates reccomendation for an artisan zero

i play val and stuff so

[sacred elm]

xraypad jades or tigerice v2

[stone flax]

how quick

[sweet oak]

They feel nice, normal beast x size fits my hands perfectly so the solid sides nicely hold my fingies

[stray tiger]

Yes. Most of the time a good lube and tune is all you need

[sacred elm]

Honestly thought side slits would bother me but not at all

[sweet oak]

They only did on my pinky, put some tape to solve that

But that was the original revision so the smaller slits would be better

[sacred elm]

i havent tried normal beastx, pro version has smaller slits, maybe thats why

[stray tiger]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[safe sphinx]

am i going to also need to lube my owlab switches when they show up or is the factory lubing good

[stone flax]

Its aight

[untold wigeon]

Hi mj

[polar girder]

I’m at work. I always miss the finals.

[stone flax]

Hello roytheboytoy

[untold wigeon]

Are you gonna start glazing flux

[sweet oak]

https://tenor.com/view/the-finals-go-lets-go-gif-4889109226193957320

[steel ibex]

also does anyone know why the lube on my koms wear off so fast

like i overlubed all my switches because of this reason and not even a month later the sound like factory

[stone flax]

What lube

[steel ibex]

the ones on wooting website

krytox

205g0

[glacial wind]

I’m not sure how your lube could be wearing off in closed bottom switches honestly

[steel ibex]

i put an ungodly amount of lube

espcially on my wasd

and spacebar

[glacial wind]

Especially not in a month. Some open bottoms leak lube but closed bottoms don’t

[steel ibex]

am i just doing something wrong

[glacial wind]

I think you might perhaps just like the feel of overlubed switches and when the lube settles it’s not the same feel anymore

[steel ibex]

it sounded more deep lmao

maybe i just dont like clack

still an upgrade over my old keeb

mnbmnbmnbmnbjhgjhgjhgjhguytuytuytdsadsadsa

[ripe void]

Xray jade's are really good i have the dots but I want to try the donuts

[stone flax]

Donuts betters for softer pads

[stray tiger]

I don't think anyone is going to glaze them at their current price. Too much competition for less money.

[sacred elm]

yea they are good, i use tigerices rn because they are a little slower on my raiden

[steel ibex]

pc plate

koms

lubed

greased

[ripe void]

Snap raiden bros

[steel ibex]

alumaze

[polar girder]

No why

[stray tiger]

Sounded good

[stone flax]

They cost the same as snake koms, no?

[sacred elm]

you have raiden too?

[stone flax]

Oooh

[stray tiger]

The same applies to those as well. There is too much competition to justify the price difference. Not only are the Owlabs very close, but significantly less money. Plus there are other switches coming at a much better price point that will likely be even better.

[sacred elm]

sheee

[uneven cradle]

The switch nobody in here purchased because they were crazily expensive?

[ripe void]

Colour is werid but top quality

[stone flax]

Its really just the bestness tax

Same thing applied to poms when they costsd a dollar

People dtill bought

[sacred elm]

i dont mind the color

[stone flax]

Cuz “ohhh itsss the besttt”

[uneven cradle]

How you glazing a switch you don't even own that costs $2

[glacial wind]

Lol

[polar girder]

Cuz best. EZGG

[stone flax]

ppl glaze poms because of reasons they dont understand “ohhh the min max wobble flux stability”

[polar girder]

Cool that Mouz won map 2 tho. Actually making it competitive

[polar girder]

POMS just THE BEST

[stray tiger]

Problem is they aren't the best. Not from a sound perspective (to me) and no measurements yet to show yet from a performance perspective.

[uneven cradle]

These are more expensive then those and we still bring up price Everytime POM is mentioned

[stone flax]

And if they are the best, then theres a market, same way poms did

[polar girder]

POM’s are just rock solid

[steel ibex]

couldnt record on phone

[stone flax]

And oh hey look, they actually have a proper pre-lube from the factory

Thats a selling point

[ripe void]

Just hard to match with things but it's pretty much black tbf

[stone flax]

Some people dont want to have to lube switches

[steel ibex]

it was mind numbing asf

[stone flax]

Yeah

[steel ibex]

still taking every switch apart at once

[fickle bear]

I just purchased Gateron Jade Pros, thoughts on the switch?

[polar girder]

Which ones are well factory lubed?

[steel ibex]

made it morel ike fun ig since less brainpower needed

[stone flax]

Flux

[polar girder]

Solid switch. I would enjoy them

[fickle bear]

coming from stem swapped raptor HE

[polar girder]

Oh cool

[fickle bear]

cool

[stray tiger]

The factory lube on the Owlabs is really solid. I have no desire to lube them.

[stone flax]

They okay

[stray tiger]

Great switch!

[fickle bear]

Cool!

[steel ibex]

what do you call the thing between pcb and the switch plate

[fickle bear]

foam?

[stone flax]

Foam or sillicone

[steel ibex]

ok yeah but like if i am describing my board do i use it or nah

since mine is silicon

silicone

whatever

[stone flax]

Preference

[uneven cradle]

And some don't want to spend 4x the price of already good switches

[steel ibex]

what do i say if i want to include it lmao

"silicon sandwiched between pcb and switch plate"

[stone flax]

Same way some people dont wanna use poms cause they cost 90c, no ones forcing you to

[stray tiger]

It's included by default

[steel ibex]

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh but mine is silicone

:)

since pc plate

[stone flax]

Its higher pitched a bit compared to foam

[stray tiger]

You want foam instead of silicone?

[steel ibex]

do i?

[stone flax]

Preference

[stray tiger]

Do you?

[steel ibex]

koms sound pretty clacky to me so i fully commited lmao

[uneven cradle]

Yeah but we're doubling the price of those

[stray tiger]

Using nothing is also an option

[stone flax]

They cost $1.30

[steel ibex]

idk what else to put in my board

[uneven cradle]

Fr?

[glacial wind]

Is it pretty hypocritical and hilarious the 180 jump from the pom hate because it was $1 a switch saying “the stability doesn’t matter, duhuks better value!” to glazing a $1.30-2 switch now and not applying the same logic to them just because it’s approved by their crew lol

[stone flax]

Yep

[stone flax]

whats this yappage abt

[sacred elm]

there is discount code, flux35

[ripe void]

Anyone seen pom springs i want some 80g springs

[stone flax]

Long springs on ali

[uneven cradle]

And also 0 reviews aside from D said it was good

[stone flax]

Around 20-22mm

[stray tiger]

WS makes some solid stuff, and I'm sure the flux will be a great switch, but it's a horrible value and may not even be the best performing at that price.

[steel ibex]

does nayone have a sound test of silicone vs foam with koms

[ripe void]

Have u used ?

[stone flax]

Im a min-maxxer so personally if its the best i want it

[steel ibex]

wooting probably has one on youtube right

[stone flax]

yes

[glacial wind]

It’s not even that the flux may very well be a great switch like thockfather said. It’s just funny that the attitude flip happens when the flux is approved by them and the pom isn’t - yet both switches suffer same pricing issue

[stone flax]

On wooting

[stray tiger]

If the measurements come back mid, the price will drop significantly. It's a hype price right now.

[glacial wind]

And that’s when pom isn’t like .75 cents per on wooting with discount and flux is like $1.30 at best right now.

[steel ibex]

is there also a difference

between the foam wooting gives with the pc plate

vs the stock foam

[stone flax]

Foam lower pitch

[glacial wind]

If anything the pricing argument regarding buying another switch like owlabs or duhuk applies even more now to flux because they’re even higher priced lol

[steel ibex]

not silicone

[stone flax]

Duhuks better

[steel ibex]

the pc plate is included with both foam and silicone so im wondering if that foam is different from stock foam

unles like

youre saying that foam is deeper then stock foam

[stray tiger]

The craziest thing about any switch right now is that at the rate new switches are coming out, anyone paying that much for a switch is crazy. We are getting roughly 1-2 new switches a month currently.

[stone flax]

Oh no compared to sillicone it is

[errant meadow]

Done modding my 80he ft this for the finishing touches

[steel ibex]

ok so the stock foam and the foam the pc plate comes with is the same

[stone flax]

Frontiermen

[stray tiger]

It's an exciting time in the industry!

I'll be the first to jump on the WS bandwagon if the hype is real and they justify the price. I love seeing competition.

[glacial wind]

yeah that’s the main thing, they have to justify the price increase first

[stone flax]

Just like kom snake did

When they added a qr code

😭

[uneven cradle]

Has wuque had any switches that weren't just the jade recolors?

[glacial wind]

For he nah

[fluid ravine]

Note : "The silicone pad gives a more muted experience of the sound profile by lowering more mid frequencies and creates shorter, snappier sounds. The foam pad mutes more of the higher frequencies creating more emphasis on 'thock'."- Wooting

"Although poron should mute higher frequencies, silicone lowers the mid frequencies which could mean that if the switch is neutral or low pitched then it should stay low pitched but more quiet vice versa with high frequency i presume which is why its more muted"- The Thackson

As i made a statement about this right here from the Wooting PC Plate website, these three tests proves that the poron does in fact remove the higher frequency sound of the switch/board making the sound profile much deeper than the switch actually sound , however looking back at the silicone sound test, the pad does in fact remove the mid frequency which would make the board sound more muted yet still clacky as so. As the silicone pad removes the mid frequency of the board it will now mostly rely on how the switch sounds (Low pitched or high pitched), if the switch like the RAW HE or Jades for example is a higher pitched switch, the board will now sound clacky BUT muted, but if the switch is neutral/lower pitched like the KS20U, lekkers, Raptors/Fraken Raptors, and etc, the board will sound the same but more quieter.
@steel ibex

[glacial wind]

Wuque morandi still one of the most popular switches ever made though

[fluid ravine]

Oh shit-

[stone flax]

joshiiiiiiiba

[fluid ravine]

Hai :3

[stone flax]

TwT

[fluid ravine]

[glacial wind]

I think it’ll take flux going $1 or less per and also showing some noticable improvements to consider buying for me. Same deal as what happened with poms

[stone flax]

joshiiiiiii u getting fluxes

[fluid ravine]

Ye

[stone flax]

lessgo

[fluid ravine]

[stone flax]

min-maxxer right here

[fluid ravine]

[stone flax]

he is minning that max

[uneven cradle]

My only switch experience with wuque was the silent linears they released and their later batches were super scratchy made them unusable

[glacial wind]

Morandi I have a set of still, I like them but they also weren’t that expensive like flux lol

[stray tiger]

No he isn't, he is gambling lol. You talking about these being max and don't even have them and no one credible has measured them

[stone flax]

People bought kom snakes

People will buy fluxes

We will min the max

[uneven cradle]

People aren't recommending snakes though that's the difference

[glacial wind]

Didn’t literally entire server clown on snake pricing

[stray tiger]

Who is we? You got a mouse in your pocket?

[errant meadow]

curious to try these. they say the later batches of morandis have bad factory lubing

[stone flax]

Dont cop morandis

old old old without retooling

batches are cooked

[uneven cradle]

Someone tried to bait me into buying them 👀

[errant meadow]

i have the gateron oil kings instead.

[stone flax]

maybe if wooting storefront carried them for $1.10 a switch

[stray tiger]

Was probably someone who has been on the hobby for maybe 2-3 years and maybe owns 2-3 boards.

[fluid ravine]

What's min maxxing

[steel ibex]

tysm

[fluid ravine]

Np man, hope you understand

[stone flax]

Getting the greatest performance you can

[fluid ravine]

Oh I see

[glacial wind]

Poor Tuan

[stray tiger]

Yeah where is my son? It's Sunday so probably at church

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

I am

I'm abt to leave in a bit

[chilly mural]

Mmm, any flux review yet?

[glacial wind]

normally he stays out of these convos because he hates drama, but I don’t think he realizes the whole convo is replying to sarcastic rage bait lol

[stone flax]

what is sarcastic rage bait

[fluid ravine]

Oh flip I didn't realize till you pointed that out

(￣ヘ￣）ᵁᴹᴹ

[harsh dove]

You guys are all sarcastic rage bait to me

[fluid ravine]

spills protein drink

[thorn zealot]

Did u see my new lubing method

[fluid ravine]

Wsp

Tell me abt it

[stray tiger]

More like obvious shilling.

[thorn zealot]

This

[fluid ravine]

Oiled up

[thorn zealot]

I put the needle in between the stem and housing

It got that stepping in mud sound

[cyan lark]

Save some for after hours my dude 💦

[thorn zealot]

I got a whole bottle in my drawer for spare

[glacial wind]

I am curious to see when Chinese tests will pop up for them

I’m surprised they didn’t already have them available for orders open actually, but maybe they want the reviews combined with launch of their keyboard

[harsh dove]

Would be sad if they performed like Mount Tais for how expensive they are

[glacial wind]

How much were mt tais actually?

[harsh dove]

Cheap like $40 for 90

[glacial wind]

Oh that’s not so bad then, at least people who got them didn’t lose much

[stray tiger]

I'm guessing they will perform just fine but I'm also guessing the price will plummet quickly.

[fluid ravine]

Wait what we talking abt

[glacial wind]

The flux switches

[tawdry tree]

Exactly what Hejin did with Black Knights 🥴

[harsh dove]

Didn’t realize they were Pc top and bottom

So they’ll sound deeper

Than most others

Like UR ICE

[glacial wind]

I’m guessing they perform roughly in that pom/rgb level for stability, which is fine but not really justifying the price increase

[glacial wind]

They sounded higher pitched actually but softer. At least that’s from the tests that were posted

[harsh dove]

Oh interesting

[harsh dove]

Yeah that’s my guess too , just curious about the sound and overall feel with those T rails