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#🔧│keyboard_modding
indigo river
Ah okay, would you think that the bone80 assumes that you are gonna use the same foam except for the bottom foam ofc since it comes with it m
I just essentially moved the PCB and everything from the normal stock case to the bone80 with the exception of the bottom foam which I didn’t move
Hard to tell ofc
harsh dove
Idk what you're asking but the 80HE only comes with case foam, it uses a silicone gasket inbetween the plate and pcb, it's required for it to work. You can buy a 3rd party foam gasket off aliexpress
indigo river
Yeah I have all that ofc, I will try to show when I get the plate in, then I will do the rest of the mods
Now I just moved everything from the stock case to the bone80 as is pretty much
I guess the normal gaskets shouldn’t flex so much, there is a little flex but not much
polar girder
nice. what set is that/
indigo river
The keycaps?
polar girder
ya
polar girder
Oh nice. Yeha I knew it looked familiar but couldn’t put my foot on it. Nice
fallen pecan
Yay woot not at the bottom anymore
harsh dove
What am I even looking at
fallen pecan
review scores from a chinese reviewer
harsh dove
What does the number mean
fallen pecan
woot was dead last before adding latency/scan rate/polling rate scores
just his scoring system
harsh dove
So higher is better?
glacial wind
What does the number mean
It’s the guy who scores heavily based on switches
So wooting got a bit wrecked due to lekkers
harsh dove
Fair
glacial wind
And lack of sub 0.1 etc
But how on earth did drunkdeer master get so low lol
Aren’t they using poms stock?
harsh dove
So basically if wooting came stock with a switch like POMs and had sub 0.15 mm setting then it'd score higher?
glacial wind
Yeah, to compete on the way Chinese charts measure you basically just need to min max stability of switch and total deadzone (so lowest actuation/rt + any extra deadzone on top)
harsh dove
Gotcha
fallen pecan
a75 master had shit transmission scores
2k polling, 2.5k scan when they advertised dual 8k
glacial wind
Wow. Impressive to mess up that bad using the same oem stuff as melgeek and co
glacial wind
I think drunkdeer is giving up
Their discord is becoming abandoned now to the point the staff aren’t even messaging back to people with bricked boards
harsh dove
Damn
fallen pecan
i was wrong, the ultra is up on shelves today
calm pulsar
Their discord is becoming abandoned now to the point the staff aren’t even messa...
sad, cause their switch structure was kinda promising, MX-like
fallen pecan
$137 to $165
glacial wind
sad, cause their switch structure was kinda promising, MX-like
Oh they abandoned that last release
calm pulsar
lol rip
glacial wind
they’re now just on ks20 stuff like everyone else
calm pulsar
well ig hard to compete when there are so many switches already available with the current structure
yeah
harsh dove
Btw did a quick comparison to UR Ice Ultras and Owlabs Ti HE and Duhuks and them seem quite similar
I love the deepness of the Ice Ultras tho
sound very deep
fallen pecan
ice ultras are doing well, 1k+ sold
glacial wind
well ig hard to compete when there are so many switches already available with t...
Well problem is their programmers are really bad and they could never get their stability and consistently up to par, so the swap went insanely bad with their new boards still not having proper working socd even
fallen pecan
duhuks, not so much, 100+ across all taobao sellers
chilly mural
Btw did a quick comparison to UR Ice Ultras and Owlabs Ti HE and Duhuks and them...
Sound test?
harsh dove
Don't have one rn
I only have a handfull of the UR Ice Ultras
but I can swap out like 3 keys
glacial wind
Are ur ice ultras new version of the ur ice?
fallen pecan
m6lite pcb + fr4 plate + PET film + rt60 case
wait cam do you have the ices or the sakuras
glacial wind
Feels like new wave of the latest molds are hitting now
Tons of very tight switches at that owlabs ti/duhuk level appearing
fallen pecan
the sakuras have the new mold, no more bakery
chilly mural
https://streamable.com/qccgkw
Mmm, sounds crisp
fallen pecan
Ices are sold out, only these for sale atm
quasi hinge
Ices are sold out, only these for sale atm
If that is yours, what stabs are you using?
I have the silver CF plate and my tx ap ones dont go well with it at all...
Had to go back to black
fallen pecan
not mine, but those look like the designer studio stabs, but older(and cheaper)
fallen pecan
Should be these
quasi hinge
I ordered Knights V2 and TypePlus YIKB stabs plus the self tuning one from ali
fluid ravine
I ordered Knights V2 and TypePlus YIKB stabs plus the self tuning one from ali
damn brah
quasi hinge
Should be these
Plate mount will only work?
fallen pecan
yeah that manu specifies the mounting
quasi hinge
Crap, I dont want to use plate mounted lol
fallen pecan
1,2,3 are designer studio, and only 3 is pcb mount
calm pulsar
Crap, I dont want to use plate mounted lol
what's wrong with stock stabs from 80he? they will fit the plate mount plate
quasi hinge
yeah that manu specifies the mounting
Will any of the ones I ordered work or needs to be plate mount?
quasi hinge
what's wrong with stock stabs from 80he? they will fit the plate mount plate
I havent tried those lol
Oooops
fallen pecan
which did you get?
quasi hinge
Varedis I think has the silver CF plate also and he said his worked with Knights V2
quasi hinge
which did you get?
Knights V2 and TypePlus YIKB stabs plus the self tuning one from ali (designer studio)
calm pulsar
they are thinner than most stabs because they are made to work with these cutouts
kind helm
Should be these
i have these but i haven't tried them :3
fallen pecan
pretty good value, those
quasi hinge
i believe you got 3, that's the one that geon sells
fallen pecan
i have the orange one coming in cos they're for mag boards
quasi hinge
quasi hinge
Got black
fallen pecan
ye so you got the pcb mount, so it's up to the plate
quasi hinge
Okay ty
fallen pecan
from your pic, you defo got the plate mount silver cf plate
quasi hinge
from your pic, you defo got the plate mount silver cf plate
They only had one option
Unless I royally screwed the order lol
oh damn
fallen pecan
ye silver is only plate mount, black has both (separate sku)
calm pulsar
ye silver is only plate mount, black has both (separate sku)
still don't get why that is
fallen pecan
🤷♂️
quasi hinge
ye silver is only plate mount, black has both (separate sku)
So my only option is to file it
Weird that @tropic urchin Knights V2 worked in his
fallen pecan
same plate seller?
fallen pecan
just need to know if it reads 'zxlab' anywhere\
quasi hinge
Looks like it has the same tolerance from the above pic I shared
I think I got the link from him, but definitely from someone here
Are there other sellers of that plate on ali?
frigid lodge
not HE related, but anyone have experience with MZ studio switches? How are they? They're dirt cheap.
fallen pecan
mx?
frigid lodge
Yeah, they're mx switches
fallen pecan
z1 is called the "60 cent warrior" for a reason
y3 i couldnt even get 1 at retail in 2024
y3 is really nice
harsh dove
wait cam do you have the ices or the sakuras
I'll ask Imoshi, he sent me a couple of random switches unless you can tell just by a picture then I can show a pic
fallen pecan
one is clear, the other is pink
harsh dove
Oh I have the clears ones
harsh dove
Basically just upgraded version of Ultra Ice?
fallen pecan
maybe not upgraded, revised
kind helm
kinda curious how ice ultra compare to ti he and jade pro
harsh dove
Feels like new wave of the latest molds are hitting now
Yeah seems to be the case, quite a plethora of new switches on the way
and companies jumping into the sphere like HMX
kind helm
tears of happiness
glacial wind
They’re all pretty cheap too which is nice. Ur ice stuff was super cheap
languid kestrel
now make one that is silent 
uneven cradle
Where ice switches 
kind helm
sound very deep
did you get enough for a board or you just got a few
uneven cradle
I can taobao 
sacred elm
imagine using something cheaper than wuque flux
calm pulsar
imagine using something cheaper than wuque flux
that's what im saying
harsh dove
Better to get Sakuras over Ice
kind helm
the sakura ones still available
sacred elm
why is everyone joshiba man
kind helm
68 sakuras before shipping
sacred elm
what are you doing
calm pulsar
why is everyone joshiba man
imagine not being joshiba
sacred elm
calm pulsar
harsh dove
He made a whole AI post about it
kind helm
chilly mural
Perfect
harsh dove
im selling drugs now to afford ws flux
Lol been seeing that game
sacred elm
what are the chances that everybody in keyboard modding channel will use ws flux switches in a month
calm pulsar
Lol been seeing that game
yeah I saw it on caseoh stream
harsh dove
Ah okay yeah I saw him and a few others playing it lol
calm pulsar
what are the chances that everybody in keyboard modding channel will use ws flux...
nah the price is too tough
harsh dove
Seems like a fun random game
sacred elm
nah the price is too tough
poms were expensive too but here we are
we are in endless loop
calm pulsar
yeah it is surprisingly nicely done, like the gameplay loop is very interesting with nice details
sacred elm
dont forget
calm pulsar
for such looking game lol
harsh dove
Yeah lol
chilly mural
Mmm, might get the sakura if it get stocked on Ali
calm pulsar
we are in endless loop
I mean true, but damnnn
chilly mural
I like how the ice ultra sound so if the revision is just on the tightness, might be a nice pick
For venom
kind helm
sakura
harsh dove
I like how the ice ultra sound so if the revision is just on the tightness, migh...
Yeah I hope they have the same deepness cause the Ice sound deep
kind helm
similar to ti he in terms of material
chilly mural
50g force, yeh, about similar ish
kind helm
calm pulsar
cause I remember jade maxes having a cool softness to it, with all of it's issues ofc
sacred elm
I like how the ice ultra sound so if the revision is just on the tightness, migh...
ice ultras are pretty tight
kind helm
闪粉 just means glitter
sacred elm
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1200840547074572348/1348613350971408464...
ice ultra, deng pro, magneto pom, jade pro, raw, lekker v2, aquarium
kind helm
hard to pull
harsh dove
So Sakuras fix that
kind helm
supposedly ultra and sakura uses improved mold that fixes the issue
calm pulsar
ice ultra, deng pro, magneto pom, jade pro, raw, lekker v2, aquarium
deng pro? damn so many new names around
sacred elm
deng pro? damn so many new names around
deng god pro
calm pulsar
the god damn switch is upgraded
calm pulsar
oh you meant og deg gods got it
harsh dove
yeah
kind helm
the way i see these recent ones they are like jade pro but sound different sound at cheaper price
in terms of stability i doubt one is signifcantly better than other
sacred elm
new ones have better stem wobble than jade pros
sacred elm
i didnt look deep into them tbh
even raws have less wobble in my experience than jade pros but i think because of the magnet they are a bit more stable
honest nacelle
~~up to a certain point they are all the same in terms of wobble~~
you can kindof see the differences when you wobble them with a tweezer all next to each other
but that's 100% schizo territory
kind helm
yea
honest nacelle
also how do I remove my 60he role
kind helm
quit then rejoin
honest nacelle
kind helm
thats how i did it at least
honest nacelle
i'm lazy
kind helm
calm pulsar
mods, ban him
honest nacelle
some new switches are coming out
fluid ravine
honest nacelle
can't remember the last time I interacted with you
calm pulsar
hey xd
honest nacelle
wasn't it over some schizo abt you not believing me on how autocal works
and in a rare moment of peace jed and I agreed agaisnt you
calm pulsar
uhh honestly not sure, what was it about exactly?
honest nacelle
w/e that's in the past idgaf
honest nacelle
uhh honestly not sure, what was it about exactly?
i think it was smt abt you saying that more stable switches made no difference to deadzone
calm pulsar
don't remember arguing much about calibration
honest nacelle
and jed and I were saying that it made a difference bc of how autocal worked
sacred elm
i think it was smt abt you saying that more stable switches made no difference t...
it was aligner not arc
fluid ravine
fluid ravine
RESPECTFULLY
calm pulsar
i think it was smt abt you saying that more stable switches made no difference t...
haha all good, and yeah I would probably agree with you and sno on that point
honest nacelle
how the fuck is aligner not banned but mj what the dystopia
fluid ravine
I don't think arceyn that smart enough
sacred elm
calm pulsar
wait mj is banned?
fluid ravine
calm pulsar
I don't think arceyn that smart enough
lmaoo
kind helm
i think bro spend too much time in general
fluid ravine
wait mj is banned?
Wut
kind helm
bro shouldve just chill here
calm pulsar
I got called out hard
honest nacelle
https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-kanye-ye-shrug-meme-gif-5673972712848832740
bro acting like he didn't swing the ban hammer
kind helm
damn cam did it
honest nacelle
anyway w/e
kind helm
?!
fluid ravine
kind helm
nah
calm pulsar
anyway w/e
alr you probably wanted to tell us about WS Flux
sacred elm
new switches r out
whats spring length of wuque flux switches?
honest nacelle
alr you probably wanted to tell us about WS Flux<:PepeBusiness:12804730945107394...
you know it
fluid ravine
you know it
Hell ye
harsh dove
Yall get too emotional over keyboards and switches anyway lol
honest nacelle
whats spring length of wuque flux switches?
uhh iirc 22mm
honest nacelle
lemmie check again
fluid ravine
uhh iirc 22mm
Deadass????
sacred elm
uhh iirc 22mm
@tropic urchin
calm pulsar
lemmie check again
I saw 17 mm on the specs @kind helm posted just now
it was a picture
kind helm
that was sakura
sacred elm
uhh iirc 22mm
in the picture spring seems to be small, thats why i asked. if its 22mm its nice. price isnt that nice tho
kind helm
sorry mr joshiba
its oaky mr joshiba
honest nacelle
nvm
calm pulsar
honest nacelle
17mm
sacred elm
honest nacelle
in the picture spring seems to be small, thats why i asked. if its 22mm its nice...
flux35
idk how long it'll last for
boss just told me that's the code n go for it
harsh dove
wait mj is banned?
for the record, no he wasn't, he was timed out for 10 minutes
kind helm
boss just told me that's the code n go for it
who?
honest nacelle
wdym who
fluid ravine
@honest nacelle you said u were ranting abt the fluxes, can you give us like basic info on how the T rail system work if you do know?
calm pulsar
for the record, no he wasn't, he was timed out for 10 minutes
yeah I was surprised cause usually mj leaves the server before getting banned, and then comes back to argue some more 
sacred elm
@honest nacelle are they more stable than ttc poms, i know what youre gonna say but try to be honest
honest nacelle
<@362482444365987850> you said u were ranting abt the fluxes, can you give us li...
calm pulsar
wdym who
oh btw may I ask about the availability of ws flux? is there a chance of them reaching aliexpress
honest nacelle
<@362482444365987850> are they more stable than ttc poms, i know what youre gonn...
cmon bruh i'm not inherently biased
but
they are more stable
lemmie show you
kind helm
what are those little openings
fluid ravine
Holy shit, huge you basically gave me everything I need to know
sacred elm
they are more stable
they better be for that price
honest nacelle
what are those little openings
those are the "T" part
kind helm
those are the "T" part
isnt the T talkin about this ?
calm pulsar
we talked with @fluid ravine a bit in dms about how fluxes have so many little details aimed at the stability
they are curious
harsh dove
isnt the T talkin about this ?
Yes
T Rails
you can see them in the photos on the website
fluid ravine
we talked with <@755503622728450269> a bit in dms about how fluxes have so many ...
Yuurrr
harsh dove
The Octogonal stem basically
kind helm
fluid ravine
Yeup
kind helm
doesnt seem to align really well but i am close to blind so idk
calm pulsar
these are little openings so that the switch is still smooth
cause I think it would be too tight if the shape was exactly octagonal
fluid ravine
Yeah I think it also like provides stability and along side with the jagged mold it allows us to press smoothly even at a certain angle
Like look at this
Top housing and stem structure
harsh dove
Wonder who sat there and decided the $2 price tag
calm pulsar
lol this gif is so small like an emote
fluid ravine
Wonder who sat there and decided the $2 price tag
I wonder
honest nacelle
honest nacelle
2 dolla doesnt seem to crazy to me for this honest
i mean its like 1.30
kind helm
the structure is so much more complex compare to other switches
harsh dove
2 dolla doesnt seem to crazy to me for this honest
You say that until they come with no lube like TTC
fluid ravine
I think they forgot to add 2 0's before the 2
honest nacelle
You say that until they come with no lube like TTC
its prelubed very well
let me see if I can get a picture for you
kind helm
ttc just has a fat boi box stem so bottom out is tight af
honest nacelle
like no affiliated glaze
kind helm
then the min maxxers come in their pants
honest nacelle
best prelube of any switch i've ever owned
kind helm
sry for the language :3
harsh dove
That's good
calm pulsar
i mean its like 1.30
I'd love em on aliexpress if the price is that
harsh dove
the structure is so much more complex compare to other switches
Yeah it is
sacred elm
wtf
fluid ravine
like no affiliated glaze
Yknow what I respect it ngl
Although I don't have hopes for the price tag
glacial wind
with respect to D, i'll wait for independent tests on the wuque flux before making any decisions on it
fluid ravine
I see a vision with how this would turn out
honest nacelle
Hopefully they come out of plates good too
👀 they do not
honest nacelle
with respect to D, i'll wait for independent tests on the wuque flux before maki...
lmfao you have never respected me so its unnecessary to add that
however, you're more than welcome to wait until independent tests arrive
glacial wind
I mean more that you're literally a wuque employee
honest nacelle
iirc theremingoat will ahve his own up as well
glacial wind
so yeah, it's a bit hard to take these opinions from you
kind helm
iirc theremingoat will ahve his own up as well
damn nice
harsh dove
That shaking sound of the box stems on TTC is what kinda bothers me ngl
It's very minor but part of the reason I don't like box stems
honest nacelle
I mean more that you're literally a wuque employee
my employment status has never mattered to you, moreso the fact I worked for any brand was enough for you to dismiss what I say
but to each their own
honest nacelle
That shaking sound of the box stems on TTC is what kinda bothers me ngl
yea same
always has
glacial wind
I'm literally not even saying anything beyond that I think we should wait for unbiased opinions not coming from the guy working for the literally switch company before we make decisions on it
no need to get so aggressive
harsh dove
👀 they do not
Like they are hard to pull?
fluid ravine
Fak
honest nacelle
I've literally broken switch pullers over it
fluid ravine
Wait
fluid ravine
If you do manage to get them outt
fluid ravine
Do they chip?
calm pulsar
need the tx ap for them
fluid ravine
Assuming I know what you're talking abt
fluid ravine
<:HmmYes:1276155123898519622> lets not pretend like you were gonna get them hehe
Heh- we'll see
sacred elm
i've never struggled so hard to get switches out
oh hell no
honest nacelle
no need to get so aggressive
?? lmao i'm not aggressive, like at all. it just looks like you're taking offence to it.
All I said was that you're welcome to your opinion. Which you are.
fluid ravine
Wait I'm trying to make it make sense how is it hard to take out..
kind helm
it doesnt seem like they have the hook thingy that raw has though
sacred elm
no, if you take them out properly they don't
raws were so hard to pull, are flux switches even harder to pull?
honest nacelle
pull them out on an angle (whch I found was easier to pull out) the legs sometimes break (but broken legs aint shit when the switch doesn't leave the fucking plate)
kind helm
pull them out on an angle (whch I found was easier to pull out) the legs sometim...
i had that when i was working on duhuk
just take the pcb out first
fluid ravine
Like I n otice the clips are like a slope with like a flatter end protruding assuming the clip s bit harder onto the plate but not that hard in the way you described it
kind helm
its pain but it helps
honest nacelle
raws were so hard to pull, are flux switches even harder to pull?
I've literally broken switch pullers over it
sacred elm
...
fluid ravine
it doesnt seem like they have the hook thingy that raw has though
Look closer
You'll see what I mean
harsh dove
Well if you spend that much on switches, maybe you're not supposed to ever remove them
kind helm
Look closer
win + shift + S is screenshot
sacred elm
Well if you spend that much on switches, maybe you're not supposed to ever remov...
true
fluid ravine
Notice it became flat at the edge?
Sticking out but still had that two perpendicular slope
Like ttc
kind helm
honestly i wonder if you can just use nail filer or whatever that thing is called to sand them before using
or brush a tiny bit of lube there to help them slide out easier in the future
fluid ravine
Oh I see whatchu mean
Possibly
If that edge is flat for both slopes to be flat then it should be a lot easier
honest nacelle
that is what i did
fluid ravine
Take in and out without breakinf
calm pulsar
Well if you spend that much on switches, maybe you're not supposed to ever remov...
the last switch you'll ever need (for a month)
harsh dove
3 weeks tops
fluid ravine
Works better but is tedious
All I needed to know thx
harsh dove
Watch WS Flux will be hype then HMX will drop their switch
then people will be like Flux who?
calm pulsar
harsh dove
I also just think its the time of year where we're gonna see more and more drops so the meta is gonna keep changing lol
glacial wind
Listening to the sound tests the flux sound very clacky, it's interesting to see if people will embrace clack more now that wuque is doing it too
kind helm
All I needed to know thx
i do that to plate mount stab and it works pretty well :3
honest nacelle
calm pulsar
what is this keycap set
harsh dove
holy
sacred elm
@honest nacelle give us proper three key sound test
kind helm
not horrible
harsh dove
Sounded like you just did open heart surgery on your keyboard
kind helm
<@362482444365987850> give us proper three key sound test
tf is a proper 3 key sound test
sacred elm
tf is a proper 3 key sound test
3 flux 3 pom or whatever
honest nacelle
<@362482444365987850> give us proper three key sound test
ye aight give me a sec
calm pulsar
linworks green
oh I knew it
wanted the green for a while but it's out of stock rip
fluid ravine
ye aight give me a sec
Oh you're the man
Bettt
Grab my iems rq
Ima dip after sound test drops
calm pulsar
Grab my iems rq
fluid ravine
Wonder what parts to lube lol
harsh dove
Tbh I'd imagine none
fluid ravine
I'd think so too tbh
harsh dove
It'd be sad if they had bad lube
fluid ravine
Mold seems promising
sacred elm
Looks like you install those once and never remove them after
yea no way im pulling 2$ switches
kind helm
It'd be sad if they had bad lube
surly you will still buy them if they are good after hand lube
harsh dove
yea no way im pulling 2$ switches
Just think about it, each one you break is $2
fluid ravine
Yup
fluid ravine
Ok actually I'm tired as shit
Got a game tmr
harsh dove
more like 5 duhuks but yeah
fluid ravine
Someone send me vid once he posts
honest nacelle
am i fuckin tweakin
fluid ravine
Pls and thank you
calm pulsar
more like 5 duhuks but yeah
yeah hyperbole for comedic effect
fluid ravine
Gn
fluid ravine
honest nacelle
damn bro these fuckin keycaps SUCK
kind helm
<a:baldd:1152950991386316932>
gn joshiba
fluid ravine
gn joshiba
Gn fellow joshiba's
chilly mural
gn joshiba
Good night
harsh dove
all the people with Tak in their name should convert to Takshiba
glacial wind
honestly i'm not sure how people break switches, i don't think i've had a single switch break from removing, but i've always used the thin wuque studio puller thing instead of the fat ones
is it easier to break them with the bigger pullers?
harsh dove
honestly i'm not sure how people break switches, i don't think i've had a single...
I didn't break any until RAWs
Them shits were so fragile
sacred elm
maybe you can only use wuque switch puller for wuque switches
kind helm
i have never done this before duhuk
like luckily tx puller kinda keeps the switch safe
but bruh
harsh dove
is it easier to break them with the bigger pullers?
In my experience, the Wuque puller works better on tight switches like the Raws, Duhuks, Owlabs, etc and the fat puller like the TX one I have works better on switches that come out easily like the TTCs or Gaterons
kind helm
<@748060490172858470>
@fluid ravine
calm pulsar
hard to know which joshiba to ping
harsh dove
but since I have a new method for pulling, my fat TX puller works great on everything
and haven't broken a switch since
kind helm
and haven't broken a switch since
thanks to tony
high sphinx
Cool build is that leggera ?
harsh dove
thanks to tony
Tony?
kind helm
Cool build is that leggera ?
leggera be curvy i think
honest nacelle
Cool build is that leggera ?
Bro whihc board could even be partly mistaken for a leggera
harsh dove
Oh, I think Aligner told me on stream
but I did see Tony message about it too
but I think Aligner told me first
calm pulsar
damn these sound soft, I wonder if the location of the switches might be affecting this but still this sounds not bad
high sphinx
@harsh dove u have leggera ? And if so how does it compare to frog mini
noble mason
damn these sound soft, I wonder if the location of the switches might be affecti...
location of the switches probably affect a lot ngl
harsh dove
but still sounds great
glacial wind
interesting the flux switches sound softer but higher pitched
honest nacelle
location of the switches probably affect a lot ngl
Hold on
harsh dove
just cause it's lighter
calm pulsar
location of the switches probably affect a lot ngl
yeah I always prefer tests in the same spot
high sphinx
leggera be curvy i think
Oh my bad o thought i saw roundings still cool build
calm pulsar
interesting the flux switches sound softer but higher pitched
yes, this is what I'd be down for
noble mason
yeah I always prefer tests in the same spot
especially if the board is tray mounted
calm pulsar
bringing us ever so slightly towards MX
high sphinx
Bro whihc board could even be partly mistaken for a leggera
Mb bad eyesight did not see sharp corners
harsh dove
<@521988247593811968> u have leggera ? And if so how does it compare to frog min...
The tadpole mount and gummy o ring mount aren't super different imo, the Frog Mini is much heavier than the Leggera, I feel like it was easier to get the spacebar to sound nice on Leggera vs Frog mini tho
glacial wind
the real question is how long will they stay $2 a switch
high sphinx
The tadpole mount and gummy o ring mount aren't super different imo, the Frog Mi...
Aha i see but the sound is almost similar ?
honest nacelle
kind helm
the real question is how long will they stay $2 a switch
i doubt the price will drop a lot though
harsh dove
Aha i see but the sound is almost similar ?
Yeah, I would say they're similar, Leggera might be brighter cause it's not as dense
glacial wind
yeah depends how they go. With wuque morandi's it took a bit for them to go lower priced
quasi hinge
the real question is how long will they stay $2 a switch
I wonder if these finally unseat the king
glacial wind
i'm not too keen on spending $180 on just switches, so it'll have to perform really well for me to consider
sacred elm
same
honest nacelle
Not that it makes it much better, but there's a code for it
Not affiliate
Flux35
I told em to just price it down there instead of using a code but w/e
glacial wind
$2 a switch is just a lot, same reason it took me ages to even consider the $130-140 for poms before they price dropped. Just feels a bit bad value spending more than $1 per switch
sacred elm
@honest nacelle btw, can you use pom springs in flux switches? i guess no right?
honest nacelle
<@362482444365987850> btw, can you use pom springs in flux switches? i guess no ...
Should be fine? I didn't test it but I ceebs going upstairs for it now
harsh dove
$2 a switch is just a lot, same reason it took me ages to even consider the $130...
Yeah same lol, took me awhile to consider POMs even when I got them for like $86
sacred elm
Should be fine? I didn't test it but I ceebs going upstairs for it now
whats diameter of flux springs
honest nacelle
whats diameter of flux springs
Dunno
kind helm
Yeah same lol, took me awhile to consider POMs even when I got them for like $86
now its 50 to 60 something for 70
calm pulsar
harsh dove
<:smile:1257692580515155978> now its 50 to 60 something for 70
Right
sacred elm
honest nacelle
still unreasonable
harsh dove
the pain of buying early
honest nacelle
but better than 2/switch
kind helm
thats some early pom price
calm pulsar
not like they ship to Russia from WS anyways
kind helm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
harsh dove
Yeah
kind helm
where is ws?
honest nacelle
not like they ship to Russia from WS anyways<:pepesalute:1017424841453862992>
thought they did?
sacred elm
not like they ship to Russia from WS anyways<:pepesalute:1017424841453862992>
surely they will be on ali
glacial wind
Yeah same lol, took me awhile to consider POMs even when I got them for like $86
i think i finally got convinced to get them when i managed to coupon stacks poms down to 0.90 per switch, which was still high but at least below $1
honest nacelle
where is ws?
🇨🇳
kind helm
really?
harsh dove
<:smile:1257692580515155978> now its 50 to 60 something for 70
If I just waited for Wooting to drop theirs I wouldn't have paid anything lol
quasi hinge
Thought it would be 5$
calm pulsar
thought they did?
hmm if China they might
honest nacelle
they'll be on ali eventually
kind helm
if i have to pay shipping myself
harsh dove
i think i finally got convinced to get them when i managed to coupon stacks poms...
Right yeah I remember you doing that lol and I ended up finding a welcome deal
gave me like $14 off
glacial wind
nah that only works on cheaper switches
glacial wind
poms welcome deal wasn't as crazy as 50%
kind helm
14 dolla off seems kinda low though
glacial wind
although i think i still hold record for deals at 90 jade pros for $24
sacred elm
lol
glacial wind
truly a generational coupon event
kind helm
truly a generational coupon event
btw random question for you because i remember you said you are good at tracking task in aim, do you think mice can be too light or lighter the better?
glacial wind
i have the deal hunting in my blood thanks to years of asian parents not willing to even turn on air con in summer
kind helm
on my new mice tracking was much easier
kinda crazy to get that kind of performance gain just from switching mice
glacial wind
btw random question for you because i remember you said you are good at tracking...
yeah i'm top 1% in tracking tasks, but I fingertip grip so i'm not sure if that all applies same to people who claw
lighter is easier for me for sure, but lighter has always been super beneficial with fingertip
kind helm
i do finga now, the mice literally has 3 contact points only for thumb ring finga and pinky
LOL
kind helm
my pinky kinda feels tired though with finga tip grip, hopefully that is temporary and not because of the grip is unhealthy in some ways
harsh dove
Im not deep in mice hole but makes sense that lighter is better for finga tip considering you're only using your finger tips to move the mice and not your palm or whole hand
glacial wind
the side profile was more important than weight overall for me, although weight was still important
flat sides that I can grip easy with fingers really makes it way more comfortable than a lot of the claw grip mice with the curved edges that try lock your fingers in
kind helm
gud. i am on this thing
sacred elm
mo
kind helm
my mo
noble mason
you have an optimum mouse??
sacred elm
no
calm pulsar
bro get that hair out of your wheel
that hair alone increases the weight 3 times for this mouse
harsh dove
kind helm
you have an optimum mouse??
i think it is based on his idea but not as expensive as the shit he sells
sacred elm
just use finger tip gpx https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/466619823615639553/1353209624790175806/image.png?ex=67e6182b&is=67e4c6ab&hm=f5d8aedb7ba852d06722d5289a15524b45ad1b94a254fa672c029ecfc8a47714&
kind helm
like at least shave it down
agreed
calm pulsar
just use finger tip gpx https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/466619823615639...
still weighs more than my sora v2
sacred elm
half mouse is gone and its still 44g superlight btw
calm pulsar
xd
sacred elm
yea still more than my beastx
harsh dove
Probs cause of the mechanism they use for the wheel
kind helm
wireless :3 its hard to balance between weight and battery life i assume
sacred elm
i dont really mind battery life, it charges in an hour
harsh dove
invent superlight battery
kind helm
i just cleaned my mo a little bit
but probably do a more thorough cleaning when i can somehow get a better cable
glacial wind
honestly the x2f from pulsar will probably be my ideal mouse once it's out
i hope they get it 30g or less then it'll be basically perfect fingertip for me
harsh dove
Im just waiting for the day we don't need mice anymore and just do hand gestures
kind helm
i hope they get it 30g or less then it'll be basically perfect fingertip for me
yea i was just gonna say
kinda heavy
harsh dove
deskmats will become holograms/touchpads
glacial wind
i was trying to trade snowboard lessons with some of the pulsar sponsored guys for an x2f demo unit lol
glacial wind
yea i was just gonna say
yeah that's their heavy prototype, they said supposedly they had versions as low as 25g
kind helm
then i will become a retro hippy
kind helm
i like touching my keybort and mo
harsh dove
just deskmats
all in one
glide your hands across your deskmat to type and use mouse
kind helm
yeah that's their heavy prototype, they said supposedly they had versions as low...
pogger
maybe different material
if they gonna keep the same look
harsh dove
yall in too deep
kind helm
<@748060490172858470> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/46661982361563955...
what pcb is that
kind helm
yall in too deep
i dont wanna hear it from a guy with 7 keyboards
harsh dove
I feel like if you min max too hard you end up doing the opposite and end up max minning
calm pulsar
bros are going to reach lower than micrograms soon
kind helm
i wasnt really trying to min max tbf, i have always used claw and just want to try finga tip grip on a crazy light weight mice and see how that feels
:3
wasnt really thinking like "oh this is gonna make me good"
glacial wind
i can't do the hobby skeleton mice shapes personally. They always put their fingertip spots at only specific spots that fit certain hand sizes
harsh dove
Nah I know lol I was more so thinking of people who want like 0.00001 RT and under 10g mouse
kind helm
LOL
kind helm
i can't do the hobby skeleton mice shapes personally. They always put their fing...
yeee i wish i can experiment with different tweaks on my own
sacred elm
what pcb is that
im not sure but based on his comments its not as good as op1 8k in terms of performance
quasi hinge
no more keebs or mice
Neural link tech will do it
glacial wind
the pmm cyber 4.1 been interesting to see, although it's so pricy for what it is
kind helm
Neural link tech will do it
3 words from the recent paper i wrote, workin on it LOL
harsh dove
Neural link tech will do it
We'll all have our own Jarvis
glacial wind
Nah I know lol I was more so thinking of people who want like 0.00001 RT and und...
honestly when I see those types I usually assume they're really young and also not very good at games lol
harsh dove
Yeah pretty much
kind helm
the pmm cyber 4.1 been interesting to see, although it's so pricy for what it is
the one that bigsly is using also finga tip, that thing is truly pricy
harsh dove
They're a professional Gold Rank player
glacial wind
it's kind of like the reverse hipyo tech. He goes too far into the 'equipment does nothing for you!' side, but the guys who over obsess about the weight and sub 0.1 rt stuff are too far on the other side lol
and both sides always seem to be just low ranked players who miss the main points of what's important
quasi hinge
https://youtube.com/shorts/166hVFlRWQw?feature=shared
When they perfect this
kind helm
the difficulty is probably more about how intrusive the tech gonna be
quasi hinge
Normal people will be stumbling to get chipped
kind helm
some cyberpunk stuff
quasi hinge
Insta aimbot lmao
glacial wind
sorry but the moment mind linked games happens the rest of the world is just going to get crushed by south korea even more than now
chilly mural
and both sides always seem to be just low ranked players who miss the main point...
having fun and being comfortable!
glacial wind
you guys don't understand how many novels and comics the south koreans put out on a daily basis about the dream scenario of virtual reality gaming
quasi hinge
you guys don't understand how many novels and comics the south koreans put out o...
They will be first to be chipped
Then we will be on a new discord mind melding which interface is best
calm pulsar
you guys don't understand how many novels and comics the south koreans put out o...
SAO and Solo Leveling are just tip of the iceberg probably
glacial wind
oh solo leveling is one of 5000 novels with the exact same story and theme right now on the south korean comics app
it went viral more because it's art was really good and western followers caught on to it, but the next 20 gaming comics in the naver webtoon app is the exact same storyline
quasi hinge
Im definitely gonna wait for the kinks to be removed before opening up my brain
sacred elm
my friend keeps telling me to watch solo leveling
quasi hinge
I wonder how worms and Virus will be dealt with lol
chilly mural
Living in a 3rd world country means being able to wait until the tech is matured
quasi hinge
It will be like Paprika by Satoshi Kon
Gov wants to remove you, they can just uninstall your brain 😂
glacial wind
i think it's more impressive that the comics keep doing well despite it being the exact same things over and over. They love the 'portal open up around the world and hunters/heroes go in to level up' plotline
i literally don't know which story someone is referring to now if they talk about clearing portals, because clearing portals/dungeons is in every single one of the korean comics
chilly mural
mmm, it's a nice fantasy
calm pulsar
i literally don't know which story someone is referring to now if they talk abou...
the diablo-like grind
glacial wind
before we invent video game mind link, can you guys in US stop the tariff stuff until after I'm super rich please
harsh dove
Imoshi sent me the Mount Tai spec sheet
glacial wind
oh nice i can check if the random specs i had listed from other site is right
harsh dove
Tbh I haven't installed them but in my fingers I liked the sound
clacky
sounded decent to me
I have enough for a full build so will have to see when I stream
harsh dove
Haha
sacred elm
I have enough for a full build so will have to see when I stream
when
glacial wind
who is the brand behind the mt tai switches?
harsh dove
Says UGaming and Gateron on the boxes
glacial wind
well that's just confusing lol
harsh dove
I can see if Imoshi knows
kind helm
my guess is designed by "ugming" and made by gateron
harsh dove
Also, for the switches he sent me, the white is UR Studio Ice Max
Blue ones are from Haimu but have no name and are not for sale, said he worked with the agency to get some.
and the purple ones are the ball bearing switch
called “拓航科技 带滚珠磁轴” in Chinese
glacial wind
imma just put ugaming lol
kind helm
Also, for the switches he sent me, the white is UR Studio Ice Max
Blue ones are ...
#🔧│keyboard_modding message thank you for answering many hours later
harsh dove
harsh dove
imma just put ugaming lol
Yeah I would
kind helm
called “拓航科技 带滚珠磁轴” in Chinese
带滚珠磁轴 translate to ball bearing switch, and the 拓航科技 i think is the company name
harsh dove
Oh okay, thank you
sacred elm
remember when there were only lekkers and raptors it feels like we have 100 different options now
glacial wind
interesting their spec sheet claims bottom wobble less than 5g change but they ended up performing much worse in the rt tests
harsh dove
Hmm wonder if there’s a flaw in the design they missed
Maybe there will be Mount Tai v2
Back of the box
glacial wind
are ur ice ultra different from ur ice?
harsh dove
apparently those fixed the tightness issue
glacial wind
i remember seeing ur ice listed on aliexpress, but i have no idea if they were the ultras or not
harsh dove
the ultra
dreamy pelican
got a keytoc Mech Gozilla Keycap set on sell in Europe, its not used who need it pm me
glacial wind
honestly i don't add any of the crazy random chinese switches until I see more than 1-2 people use them lol
harsh dove
Right lol
glacial wind
because half of them have 294729 chinese variations that no one knows or buys in anywhere that isn't china
kind helm
are ur ice ultra different from ur ice?
ultra is supposed to be the update
they dont sell the max on their store anymore
glacial wind
yeah that was a quick change honestly
it was only a couple months ago or so that I saw the ur ice pop up for sale
kind helm
yea someone asked me to try them and when i went look for them they were already gone, can only get them from second hand site
sacred elm
Heard if you get wuque flux switches, they automatically make your keyboard sound godly and make you a better gamer (radiant in valorant, cs2 faceit 4000 elo, apex predator)
Ill let you guys test this theory
kind helm
the meta i think is to fix the wire and lube them without doing too much like stuffing foam in there, but that is a move too its perference :3
just depends on which circle you are in for meta :3
glacial wind
I mean, that’s just foam haters vs everyone else
just throw in a $2 foam insert that’s precut and sticky taped for you already - that’s pretty much the fix for everyone that isn’t in the “enthusiast foam is bad etc group”
chilly mural
Heard if you get wuque flux switches, they automatically make your keyboard soun...
aww, it doesn't make me a pro rhythm gamer tho
glacial wind
You can buy it off aliexpress for about $2 if you search spacebar foam
kind helm
just throw in a $2 foam insert that’s precut and sticky taped for you already - ...
yea its much cheaper and easier
sacred elm
completely different design
harsh dove
I'm from the enthusiast foam is bad group
quasi hinge
Heard if you get wuque flux switches, they automatically make your keyboard soun...
Just having them in my cart is raising my rank
harsh dove
They have a lot of aura
sacred elm
aura farming
glacial wind
I'm from the enthusiast foam is bad group
prove your dedication by making your space bar louder. Metal spacebar or bust
kind helm
did you try rawhuk on frog mini?
uneven cradle
did you try rawhuk on frog mini?
I have not
kind helm
on my tofu 2.0 they are not crazy loud, i am happy with volume
i think one piece case is just gonna be louder than case that has a separated top piece
harsh dove
I removed the polyfill and added plate foam and pet film
kind helm
I removed the polyfill and added plate foam and pet film
muffled
sinful dagger
Are there any tactile hall effect switches compatible with Wooting keyboards?
uneven cradle
Are there any tactile hall effect switches compatible with Wooting keyboards?
Not any good ones
tidal frigate
Are there any tactile hall effect switches compatible with Wooting keyboards?
If you want any tactility. You got raeds he
mild cargo
Anyone got any good recommendations for ISO keycaps
heady dragon
No iso fr 
peak breach
Imagine beeing french
stone flax
good morning unc
good morning joshiba
kind helm
good morning joshiba
#🔧│keyboard_modding message what do you think
kind helm
no foam though :3
i went with the softest bowl
and still has that duhuk bottom out that is kinda high pitched, i really dig it hehe
stone flax
and still has that duhuk bottom out that is kinda high pitched, i really dig it ...
yay
kind helm
stone flax
Heard if you get wuque flux switches, they automatically make your keyboard soun...
tru
sweet oak
@sacred elm dont let me down usps 👀
tawdry tree
how the fuck is aligner not banned but mj what the dystopia
mj isn’t banned, surely?
tawdry tree
Try TX puller or Woque’s. The TX one you can use like a crowbar.
glossy pagoda
MJ hasn't been banned yet
They just leave and rejoin the server a dozen times a month
sacred elm
tawdry tree
tony mentioned it first here i think
tony made the beautiful guide in paint (it should be a fucking sticker here)
fluid ravine
Morning 
glacial wind
to be fair to aligner i don't think he should be put in the same category or banned anyway. We don't see eye to eye often, and he turns a lot of things into arguments, but aligner's not purposely trying to bait fights or put folks down
kind helm
MJ hasn't been banned yet
"yet"
cyan lark
Would you say your gazes don't always... align
glacial wind
Poms price rn is pretty based tbh
honestly it's a pity people can't qualify for discount on the ttc poms after buying an 80he already, because the discount with 80he module is quite nice
with the module combination discount i think I did the math before and it was something around 77 cents per switch
peak breach
A pcb that is compatible with the tofu redux should be compatible with the new owlabs case right?
glacial wind
still pricier than some other switches, but much cheaper than other places
kind helm
honestly it's a pity people can't qualify for discount on the ttc poms after buy...
whats the condition to get wooting pom discount
glacial wind
A pcb that is compatible with the tofu redux should be compatible with the new o...
if it's gh60 compatible
kind helm
i haven't bothered to check :3
glacial wind
whats the condition to get wooting pom discount
just bundle discount with a 60he or 80he module
it's like 20% off switches iirc
tropic urchin
People getting banned now?
They’re just sent to the joshiba factory
glacial wind
don't let them know it's an asbestos factory though
sweet oak
the popcorn ceiling will consume you
peak breach
if it's gh60 compatible
would the KBDfans Redux 60 pcb be compatible?
with the owlabs case
prime orbit
Is there a case that is completely rounded off everywhere?
tropic urchin
it also came with a bag with some more red hoops
Before you screw them in you wanna put the red hoops and gold screws together
lapis raven
Before you screw them in you wanna put the red hoops and gold screws together
what about the black and gold connected things
tropic urchin
what about the black and gold connected things
I don’t believe I used those
lapis raven
alrighty
peak breach
no idea, does it say gh60 pcb?
no, it says on the site it's compatible with Tofu60 redux case, Holy60 case, 461E case etc.
lapis raven
ty
tropic urchin
If you got the gold wire knight stabs it adds +500 aura
glacial wind
you'd have to email them and ask if it's gh60 compatible
prime orbit
If you got the gold wire knight stabs it adds +500 aura
Does that mean I have -500 aura
Only black was in stock 😭
glacial wind
they don't do gold anymore from mid v2 version onwards
tropic urchin
Only black was in stock 😭
That’s tough, sorry I don’t make the rules 😅
glacial wind
the 2nd gen v2 and v3 are no more gold wires
prime orbit
Anyone know of a completely rounded off case?
glacial wind
optimum is quite rounded all over
glacial wind
embrace thickness
pastel birch
does anyone else seemingly have to lube their lekker (other other HE?) switches every few months, otherwise they start sounding clacky as hell? am I doing something wrong? I'm using the krytox switch lube from Wooting, and i "tastefully" just lube the stem, rails, and rail slots in the top and bottom housing.
seemingly no matter what i do, everything ends up sounding clacky in just a couple of months, and from what i've read, you should only need to lube every couple years or so. is this just how these switches are meant to sound lubed, and i'm just over lubing them?
glossy pagoda
Thiccboi
tawdry tree
to be fair to aligner i don't think he should be put in the same category or ban...
Must be talking about some other Aligner here, that sounds nothing like me.
tropic urchin
Must be talking about some other Aligner here, that sounds nothing like me.
Convert to our lord and savior joshiba and all shall be forgiven
cyan lark
cyan lark
joshiba gang
tawdry tree
Stabilized switch 😃👍
https://x.com/mare6b_/status/1905215017857036795
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV19nRVYMEX4/
sweet oak
the triangle
tawdry tree
North or South facing LEDs? How about both?
kind helm
Stabilized switch 😃👍
<https://x.com/mare6b_/status/1905215017857036795>
https...
the video's opening is something else
LOL
tawdry tree
the video's opening is something else
translate!
kind helm
i translated english vid before, took me one whole day
i need to get paid if i gonna translate a vid :3
tawdry tree
😭😭
cyan lark
Do you accept gifs as payment?
kind helm
Do you accept gifs as payment?
no sir unfortunately i do not
but i gonna watch it and see if i can summarize a bit
kind helm
its gonna be similar to open bottom switch where you dont feel a centered feedback before the little thingy in the middle has to go through
relatively low wobble both top and bottom but purely based on his feel i think
no defuser
cyan lark
I can't help but feel like the bottom of the switch should be blurred out whenever it's depressed
kind helm
pc top nylon bottom
tropic urchin
https://tenor.com/view/no-thumbs-down-thumbs-bad-decline-gif-7992578387087579673
Your record has been etched accordingly, good luck. The joshiba hive mind is not friendly to outsiders.
kind helm
small amount of scratch, no metal sound
oh this kind of switch he just popped it open with his nails
cyan lark
Yeah I saw that 😯
kind helm
thick boi spring
glacial wind
i need to get paid if i gonna translate a vid :3
i think your job is taken by ai already
kind helm
i think your job is taken by ai already
yee ai can be pretty good at that
glacial wind
there's a couple companies now that translate entire videos via ai for fee. Know a few youtuber friends that use those
then they just check the subtitles after quickly, seems pretty efficient
kind helm
didnt go in detail about that structure. but he did mention that the structure is pretty old but not really used in many of their switches
cyan lark
Well I appreciate the true joshiba's efforts
Don't really understand that scissoring plastic bit that connected the stem and bottom housing
kind helm
i think that plastic bit is supposed to improve stablity somehow as aligner mentioned
stone flax
MJ hasn't been banned yet
yet
tawdry tree
relatively low wobble both top and bottom but purely based on his feel i think
so just a gimmick, I see.
cyan lark
Ah missed that, thanks
kind helm
i think supposedly that should improve the wobble since even when he removed the top housing the stem stays on the bottom housing pretty well
tawdry tree
i think that plastic bit is supposed to improve stablity somehow as aligner ment...
like those
I think
kind helm
https://tenor.com/view/close-one-ryan-ashley-joel-madden-ami-james-nikko-hurtado...
yea i just dont know what they are called xD
tawdry tree
no clue either lmao