🔧│keyboard_modding

[harsh dove]

Slightly

[calm pulsar]

I think no one really went with them in the end of the day

some tried but they didn't want to clean all the parts and relube, which is fair tbh lol

frankenswitches are also not all guaranteed to be nice and smooth (but still v2 build w/ raw stem I had good experience)

[harsh dove]

BKs are open bottom

Luci is closed

[kind helm]

which make them real special imo

jade pro v2 that no one tried

[untold wigeon]

Will these switches work with wooting?

[harsh dove]

No

[tidal frigate]

No

[harsh dove]

Low Profile

[untold wigeon]

Are there any low profile switches that are compatible?

[calm pulsar]

the structure is too different

[harsh dove]

No

Low Pros use a different magnet positioning

[tidal frigate]

If you want low profile wooting make your own case

[kind helm]

my only worry is that salv doesnt work so well with fully closed bottom imo

[untold wigeon]

Ok, thank you

[kind helm]

at least for HE

[thorn zealot]

Bad boy

[untold wigeon]

Does owl labs bottom out faster

[calm pulsar]

my first version of jade knights with gateron stem and 70g springs

[harsh dove]

The duhuks have 0.1mm shorter travel and a lighter spring, same length tho, so technically they would bottom out faster

[calm pulsar]

owlabs has lower tolerances stated though lol

0.2

[kind helm]

do you think ti he is smooth like duhuk? from raw to duhuk i feel like duhuk bottoms out instantly as someone mentioned perhaps due to its tighter housing

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[harsh dove]

I haven't typed on them a bunch but the little bit of testing I did do, yeah

[kind helm]

stated i trust aligner when he said those spec full of cope

bro needs to funded for switch testing

and pcb testing

[harsh dove]

Alright, yall ready to build this Leggera?

@fluid ravine

[kind helm]

yea frog boi got off to check his dc message

[chilly mural]

yep

[fluid ravine]

YES FUCK YEAH

[calm pulsar]

yeah I think a lot of listed specs related to margin of error and spring weights can be off most of the time

[untold wigeon]

I wonder what the true flux will be on tests

[kind helm]

and i am not sure if bro can type rn

LMAO

[thorn zealot]

Should I use my geon ti tweezers and scratch up a raw stem to make me scatch

[fluid ravine]

Yeah I don't got another rkeeb soo

[kind helm]

oh damn you fast

LOL

[fluid ravine]

[harsh dove]

Yeah I'm curious to see them tested as well, a member in here did a flux stability test on them for bottom out and they matched the Jade pros in terms of flux stability

and Jade Pros are right under TTC KOM

which is in first place currently

[thorn zealot]

I’m ready to watch with one hand

[kind helm]

its like one value that can be affected by different things so idk

:3

[chilly mural]

Im going to 1 up you with 2 hand!

[untold wigeon]

Jade pros are not under Koms btw

Iirc it’s the made 68 Chinese new years switch is first then koms then ur studio ice max then duhuks

[thorn zealot]

Oh ur going fighter jet method

[harsh dove]

Going based off this one

Unless there's a new one from Eyejoker

[calm pulsar]

uploading a clicky switch sound test

[marsh saffron]

Do you have the clicky bumpers tho👀

[cyan lark]

Now make it creamy

[kind helm]

edging or wat

[marsh saffron]

My man

[chilly mural]

It's soo unreal

[marsh saffron]

is yours HE too?

[chilly mural]

My brain soo used to PS controller being membrane

[calm pulsar]

I want to put HE sticks on here hehe

[marsh saffron]

I love the clicky buttons on mine

[marsh saffron]

Its so worth it, so glad I opted for them on mine

[calm pulsar]

yeah but it's super nice when clicky

[chilly mural]

is it harder to press?

[calm pulsar]

do you have a dualsense as well?

[chilly mural]

or about the same

[marsh saffron]

Easier

[marsh saffron]

Yeah, custom one from aim controllers

[chilly mural]

I mean the face button

[calm pulsar]

the travel is less so it feels snappier

[kind helm]

i want to try to HE ones, idk what they do to the controller but higher end ones can let you control how much force you need to press down

iirc

[marsh saffron]

All the bells and whistles

[chilly mural]

Hmm

[marsh saffron]

Yes ik

[calm pulsar]

oh nice so HE sticks exist for dualsense

[chilly mural]

alrighto. I guess it won't be too bad for rhythm game

[calm pulsar]

I hope there are some on AE

[marsh saffron]

Yeah i was part of their test batches for them, and they work great

[calm pulsar]

oh thats cool

[kind helm]

think those are like 50 to 100+ usd

[marsh saffron]

Which for the price they fucken better

My controller cost more than a prebuilt 60he

[calm pulsar]

interesante

[marsh saffron]

By a decent margin

[kind helm]

did you like it? i want to get one of the fancier ones at some point for racing game

[marsh saffron]

Being able to change your deadzone/stick drift to whatever you want is amazing

[harsh dove]

yeah

was making a tweet lol

tryna be serious

lol

[marsh saffron]

If you want zero, easy just set it to 0. If you want stick drift for say apex or cod, easy just set however much you want

[calm pulsar]

I have one stock dualsense for racing and this one for any other games

cause need the smooth triggers for racing hehe

[marsh saffron]

Yeah it's really nice, I use it for beamng drive a ton

[marsh saffron]

Mine has the ability for trigger stops and the adaptive triggers

So I can play gt7 with adaptive triggers on ps5, and just go to my pc and put the stops on for mouse clicks

[calm pulsar]

oh so when you enable the stop it is clicky?

[marsh saffron]

Yeah

But if I disable it's stock adaptive triggers

[harsh dove]

https://www.twitch.tv/camofflife

[calm pulsar]

I think when I was researching I coulnd't find that
at least when DIY'ing

[marsh saffron]

Yeah this isn't diy

They aren't cheap, and take a while to build (especially because I was part of the test batches)

[calm pulsar]

yeah makes sense

[marsh saffron]

My controller took like 2 months from order to finished building/qc pass

[untold wigeon]

Don’t think eye joker used ur studio

But according to tests they are faster then jade pros

[kind helm]

i think ice is not popular enough

[calm pulsar]

I went kinda crazy with mine and just removed vibration motors, rapid triggers and even the microphone

but I kept a stock dualsense for when I need all of that

[kind helm]

sound decent though from the ones i heard

[marsh saffron]

The one shitty part about my roller is i got the swappable sticks, and they fall out easy. I shouldn't have gotten them because I use kontrolfreeks anyway

[untold wigeon]

Is the gt60 good

Does someone have latency test

Yet

[marsh saffron]

Mine has every stock feature still which is nice

[calm pulsar]

ahh yeah I remember reading about those

[kind helm]

@fluid ravine did you draw that

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think I heard that too and tbh I think the Duhuks and Owlabs Ti He might match them

Cause I feel they are slightly better than Jade Pros imo

[marsh saffron]

Little bit of superglue fixes the problem

[untold wigeon]

Owl labs I doubt

They have a bad rep

[marsh saffron]

Not like I remove them anyway

[harsh dove]

Really? They seem exactly like Duhuks

[fluid ravine]

?

[untold wigeon]

Someone told me they lie a lot

[harsh dove]

Interesting

[kind helm]

cam just showed a picture on screen but i missed the capture

LOL

not picture, a drawing

thanks cam

LOL

[fluid ravine]

HAHA

Yea I drew that

[calm pulsar]

ohh didnt know that, that's cool haha

[tropic urchin]

Oh you trolling 🤣😭😭😭

[thorn zealot]

Should’ve put ur signature on his case

[tropic urchin]

Cam got a new waiting for stream static pic

[glossy pagoda]

Aww that's cute

[calm pulsar]

🐸 👉 👈

[calm pulsar]

oh wait its hands are like little frog mini tadpoles

[kind helm]

so thoughtful

[fluid ravine]

Did he say it yet?

[kind helm]

idk heating up my hotpot

[calm pulsar]

"Mark taught me how to edge" (c) Cam 2025

[chilly mural]

mmm, hotpot

I should try it again

[uneven cradle]

[kind helm]

one of da best food

[chilly mural]

I think I know where to go next week

[floral nymph]

Tape mod makes diference on plastic case? Or PET film is fine? I will receive my wooting 80he tomorrow

[tropic urchin]

PET film is a partial tape mod, so you will have it by default. It only makes your sound more muted/“thocky” so by default with plastic case it’ll already sound like that

Prob not worth the added effort imo

But if that is up your alley, you can do like a 3-5 layer if you want

[stray tiger]

Picture shows the slight gap around stems between Ti and Duhuks. Side to side wobble on TI's is better than Duhuks. Virtually no wobble

[thorn zealot]

U should do 15 if u want “creamy thock”

[thorn zealot]

The owlab tis?

I thought those were like coffee brown color

[stray tiger]

White balance is off a little on phone cam. How about this

It's a light tan/cream and smokey top housing

[kind helm]

do you think ti he has the similar issue as raws where the top is a tiny bit "sticky" due to possibly the tightness 👀

[marsh saffron]

I may have to purchase these

Over raws..

[stray tiger]

So far I haven't seen anything like that (nor with the over 300 RAW's I've used)

[tropic urchin]

I can’t fathom that lmao, I have a 2 layer only bc it’s the only way I found to make my right side of the keeb sound more on par with left 😔

[thorn zealot]

Oh ok

[cyan lark]

Huh, I noticed the sticking at the top on all my raws. Granted it wasn't terrible, could only really notice if I tried to press in gently/slowly.

[thorn zealot]

I have a spare wooting now

[kind helm]

interesting, after someone in the discord chat mentioned it i did notice that if i press really gently on the raws.

[cyan lark]

Not so much when just typing/playing

[thorn zealot]

I might just do it for “fun”

[untold wigeon]

Can you send sound of both

[kind helm]

look for cam's recordings, pretty sure he did a few with 80he

[marsh saffron]

Pretty sure cam made a vid of that, idk how to find it tho

[stray tiger]

Go to @harsh dove twitch stream. He has both and can let you hear when he has a minute

[kind helm]

you can search discord with the bar on the top right. from:camofflife has:video or somethin

[marsh saffron]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[marsh saffron]

Pretty sure this is it

[kind helm]

but may explain the difference that frog boi heard switching between raw and duhuk top

for his rawhuk

[untold wigeon]

Those are rawhuks

[kind helm]

duhuk older vid

[untold wigeon]

I can’t cope any longer

The owlab sound good

😭

[kind helm]

bro went from ti bad to ti too good in less than a hour

[thorn zealot]

Folded under no pressure

[thorn zealot]

Are u watching cams stream

[kind helm]

i am eating, watching cam stream, talking in dc at the same time

[calm pulsar]

at least he admits he used to cope and now he doesnt

[thorn zealot]

Do u know what his build is gonna be with leggera

[fluid ravine]

Red alu
Ti HE
55a oring

[kind helm]

ye

i typed too slow

[thorn zealot]

Love it

[fluid ravine]

See I pay attention

[thorn zealot]

I really do

[fluid ravine]

Heh

[untold wigeon]

I need to hear normal duhuks

[kind helm]

good i am proud of you

[untold wigeon]

Vs them

Since duhuks are 3rd best for gaming

Best switch’s for gaming

[kind helm]

why?????

[thorn zealot]

So ur gonna take their word as bible

[untold wigeon]

No he’s reliable he has tests

Lemme send

[thorn zealot]

I think I saw tests of the taishan and they were worse than ttcs

In flux

[untold wigeon]

Just have these two

Thanks to mj for these

[kind helm]

search mr aligner's history if you want to see all of them

[untold wigeon]

Who?

[kind helm]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

that lighting made it look so good @harsh dove @fluid ravine

but only at a really particular angle

[stray tiger]

Last I checked, he was hand testing these on a $35 Sayo device (if these are his tests I wouldnt put too much thought into it). If they are from eyejoker, I would say they hold more weight.

[untold wigeon]

So in conclusion jade gaming or better then duhuks ?

[stray tiger]

I think in conclusion, we can say there is no conclusion. One anonymous test without knowing how they were tested makes zero difference.

[fluid ravine]

CHAT

SOUND TEST

!!!!!

[kind helm]

i dont think the device matters too much if its repeatable and controlled.

[kind helm]

but yee not a lot of info on how it was done

[stray tiger]

Exactly. Hand pressing isnt controlled.

[fluid ravine]

Yurr

[kind helm]

yeee

[stray tiger]

If someone thinks a finger press is accurate to 1/100th of a mm, Ive got some investment advice for them.

[uneven cradle]

Duhuks weird top out makes it enough for me not to recommend

[fluid ravine]

OK YEAH I WANT TI HE NOW

FUAK

[kind helm]

a wise old man once said

[fluid ravine]

[untold wigeon]

Why do ttc cost so much

What tax price

[uneven cradle]

Yeah preference but when your preference is weird it becomes a hey you might like these with a big asterisk

[kind helm]

i am going with duhuk bottom because my tofu 2.0 do be muted, the bottom material gonna bring some liveliness to it. but yea for leggera maybe ti he would be better to make it slightly more quiet

[uneven cradle]

Just make your keyboard as obnoxiously loud as possible

[kind helm]

still remember your volume comparison

[kind helm]

whats that switch btw

assuming its some MX silent

[calm pulsar]

gazzew boba u4t silent tactile
my HE board felt so good after this lmao

[kind helm]

"everything is relative"

[untold wigeon]

Whats the Differnce between wooting ttc and regular ttc

Other then color and production

[calm pulsar]

5g of spring weight

so not much difference

[untold wigeon]

Should i get koms for 44

70 for 44

Im debating

Since i am a schizo for performance

[kind helm]

unc mj would disagree i think

[calm pulsar]

I believe rgb and pom are newer molds so they are a bit better on stability, but maybe default koms now have newer molds

[untold wigeon]

I had koms in my old board got rid of it becuase of sound

[calm pulsar]

poms probably sound the nicest of all ttc

[untold wigeon]

Yeah ik

But the price

Isnt the nicest either

[calm pulsar]

just get ti he tbh

good price, one of the best sounding

[untold wigeon]

I wanna see the Flux

Since i care a bout performance more then sound tbh

But i still care for sound since i dont want my ears to go through excrutiating pain

[calm pulsar]

there's a point where that becomes cope, so you'll pay for nothing, cause duhuks/ti he are still great tolerances

by "that" I mean chasing performance

[untold wigeon]

Yeah ig

I have to get used to the duhuks bottom out

Going from raws

Feels

weird

I play worse in every aspect

Went from 110 wpm to 79

[calm pulsar]

maybe try building rawhuks

what if you're missing that noticeable top out

[polar girder]

Yeah duhuks are cooked

Only useful for their bottom housing if you’re trying to be edgy

[untold wigeon]

Gonna just use my mad 60

for the time being

[calm pulsar]

yeah I was saying that the moment I tested 3 of them in my board hehe

[polar girder]

Yeah. Useless switch

[untold wigeon]

its the bottom out

tbh

[tropic urchin]

Duhuks clear

[thorn zealot]

Duhuk Betterest

[fluid ravine]

ok fuck the ti

i like em

but i am not trying to spend more money

[calm pulsar]

it sounds like something in german

[fluid ravine]

gonna wait for HMX if goes good

[kind helm]

you know where cam lives, and he has them

just sayin

[calm pulsar]

hmx???

[fluid ravine]

you're not wrong...

and my unc and aunt lives in denver...

which is not far from where he lives sooooo...

CAM im gonna catch you brutha

[tropic urchin]

And what’s the street corner

[fluid ravine]

ima get you a 5090 on the way

[kind helm]

idk bro only frog boi and i think thockfather knows

[fluid ravine]

oh shi actually i finna die by the time i get there

i struggle with high elevation

feels like having asthma

[calm pulsar]

it's cause you're so tall

[fluid ravine]

yeah Pops know

[untold wigeon]

Guys do i buy 70 ttc koms for for 44 dollars

[kind helm]

curious if thockfather actually gonna send me his sticker, i will treasure it as a good memory for this channel

[harsh dove]

I’m hungry

[fluid ravine]

ok i aint dat tall

[tropic urchin]

Frog boy lmaoooo

[fluid ravine]

Thackfather

but yeah plsss i wnt a sticker

so bad

[harsh dove]

I have two of em lol

[kind helm]

whoops

[fluid ravine]

🙏

[kind helm]

my finga have their own minds

i swear

[fluid ravine]

you're not the only one bro

CAM's finger got edge residue on the leggera earlier

smh

[calm pulsar]

I like how Cam read my message after some time and was like what the fuck

[kind helm]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-joe-pesci-pesci-what-gif-10718026964868693743

cam reaction to that

[fluid ravine]

nah fr it's so funny reading chat messages pretty late once it's like past the convo

back then i thought it was not that hard to read chat and keeping up

but when i started streaming

[tired niche]

does anyone know what kind of mods are required? I'm planning to use it with a tofu redux. the friction mount.

[fluid ravine]

im like yeah.. no

[kind helm]

reading is easy if you dont have shit to do

[fluid ravine]

yeah you're not wrong

but then there's us like puting on keycaps or lubing

we dont keep up

[kind helm]

gotta lock in

or as mr sno said

[fluid ravine]

yo i think rebulding my board was a good choice

[kind helm]

demon mode

[fluid ravine]

it actually sounds really good

[kind helm]

whatever the fck that is

LMAO

[fluid ravine]

yeah idk wtf sno said 😭

[calm pulsar]

demon mode lmao

is this a real phrase

[fluid ravine]

bro knows more brain rot term than me

[cyan lark]

It is now

[fluid ravine]

i mean im cooked in knowing these terms anyways

[thorn zealot]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

im hella beloew avg

[kind helm]

idk mr sno knows a lot of interesting words

lolol

[calm pulsar]

damn it's joever for you

[fluid ravine]

now like where the fuck did "joever" come from 😭

like i get what it means but where dafuq did joe come from

LMAO

[harsh dove]

He's a smart man

[fluid ravine]

bro pulling out my dad's name

(yes my dad name is joe)

[kind helm]

10/10 woot pr

[fluid ravine]

leggera smacking rn

shi

[thorn zealot]

Ur sleepy joe

[kind helm]

i wouldve hire him if i were

[harsh dove]

Leggery

[fluid ravine]

so leggery

[calm pulsar]

nah leggera clears unironically on god

[thorn zealot]

How was ur leggera build

[fluid ravine]

nah actually they should accept sno to any modern jobs now and then like esp where you haev to be social LMAO

[harsh dove]

Was good

[fluid ravine]

bro can keep up with modern age language

[harsh dove]

I got 9/10 and 10/10 Ratings

[fluid ravine]

while having knowledge of boomers

zoomers

or wtv

LMAO

im just beyond cook with any type of language

even english and viet

sob

[calm pulsar]

lmao you're saying it like sno is 80 years old

[kind helm]

yea the caps works surprising well with cream

[thorn zealot]

How does it compare to ur frog mini

[fluid ravine]

no actually i just suck at speaking in general

[kind helm]

in my head cream felt pretty limited but in fact not really

[fluid ravine]

still fluetn in both languages

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[harsh dove]

Well Frog Mini has POMs in it rn and sounds really good as well tbh

[fluid ravine]

feel wise?

[thorn zealot]

Can u send a pic of ur leggera

[calm pulsar]

I wonder if the cope is real or it's joever for us frog mini bros

[kind helm]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message imagine if they actually made the backplate in this color for cream

[fluid ravine]

lol

[kind helm]

that be so insanely good imo

[thorn zealot]

What did u do with ur build

Just tune stabs or more

[calm pulsar]

with silber would slap too imo hehe

[harsh dove]

Hmmm

[polar girder]

Yeah HMX curious

[fluid ravine]

uh yeah just retuned my stabs i found out why my spacebar was ticking

[polar girder]

Think I’m chilling tho lol

[fluid ravine]

the unbalance side was facing down

but i grabbed a fresh new set of housing and stem

[calm pulsar]

wait so it is confirmed that there will be an HMX HE?

[fluid ravine]

did light coating of krytox on wire and those parts

and corrected the wire orientation

sounds good now

[thorn zealot]

Yes

[calm pulsar]

wait so it is confirmed that there will be an HMX HE?

[kind helm]

it was mentioned on i think unikey that they are working on one

[calm pulsar]

oh

[fluid ravine]

huge!!!

can't wait

[calm pulsar]

yo that's sick

[fluid ravine]

fr

[kind helm]

cam had a link to the article

[calm pulsar]

my MX build is HMX rn hehe

[fluid ravine]

im hoping they dont sell it above $0.50

[thorn zealot]

They said they were almost done and are sending out test units soon

[fluid ravine]

if so i may be cooked

just gonna have to pray for someone to get it for me

jk

[thorn zealot]

I’m not buying any he switches until hmx

[harsh dove]

I mean I like Frog Mini weight, the feel isn't crazy different from tadpole and gummy mount, but I do like the center usb on Leggera

[thorn zealot]

If it’s rly good ofc

[kind helm]

no you dont, because you love wooting

[fluid ravine]

nah tbh, i feel naive for thinking that gummy mount will feel so soft

[kind helm]

get it right cam

[fluid ravine]

im not saying that it isn't but it's really balanced and stable than i thought it would

which is a good thing

i think the feel of a 50a vs a 70a would be a huge deal but rather than the sound

of the stiffness

oh yeah btw which site is selling knights v3 again?

divinikey?

[thorn zealot]

Divinikey, Omni, bowlkb

[kind helm]

yea the force or weight or whatever is spread out more evenly i think since its a oring instead of small pads of gasket or tadpole

[calm pulsar]

I think even if its not super soft, it's still great cause it is even sounding

[fluid ravine]

yeah makes sense

[fluid ravine]

100%

which is what i like abt gummy mount

more balanced

less dead spots

rows are sounding even rather than different

damn best $400 i ever spent on a board

:>

switches are still in trial

must get more and try more

need more!!!

[kind helm]

i think ti he is the one, only 40 dolla

[fluid ravine]

yeah ti he is really good

[kind helm]

for now...

[fluid ravine]

if i had money to spare i would get it no problem

but ima just wait

[kind helm]

hmx

[fluid ravine]

i have a feeling something really really good bouta drop

yeah hmx

[kind helm]

around the corna

[fluid ravine]

and prob something else as well

[kind helm]

patience always wins

[fluid ravine]

duhraw's still making me happy

7 month wait for leggera was killer

[kind helm]

though the process is maldenning

[fluid ravine]

yeah....

[calm pulsar]

baldenning

[untold wigeon]

Hmx is making he?

[harsh dove]

Yes

[kind helm]

upsp still not updating

[harsh dove]

You broke it

[kind helm]

i am tempted to just go check my mailroom eventhough i got no notification

[kind helm]

f5 too many times

nah i actually gonna check

hell nah, not here yet, tomorrow and Wednesday gonna be busy,

[chilly mural]

it's fine

im also waiting for my package to arrive

[kind helm]

me 8pm, you 8am

tis not the same

[chilly mural]

I've been waiting for my manga to arrive for almost 2 weeks now

😭

[kind helm]

ah shit

nvm then xD

maybe because the website is broken today they didnt do any delivery

the usps website been broken the whole day

[chilly mural]

stop coping

they're just slow

or that there's too many

[kind helm]

never had issue once ever since i moved here over 1 year ago

[chilly mural]

same

[kind helm]

👀 maybe dumb question but emmm, can i put a new ssd into the pc without shutting it down

[stray tiger]

If its USB

[kind helm]

ahh then no

[thorn zealot]

what are some orings that are thicker than bakeneko orings

[fluid ravine]

[ruby elk]

Da wooting vs da woo-tang

What ya think gois

[thorn zealot]

im not a goi

[fluid ravine]

im a ngay

wait..

im a chai

[ruby elk]

No

You're a froge

[thorn zealot]

no hes a chai

[fluid ravine]

you right you right

nah im a chai ech

ech is frog

in viet

:P

The Echson

[thorn zealot]

some ppl here must be confused

[fluid ravine]

yh

[near loom]

Anyone have any suggestions for what he switch would sound good on a top mount alu build

[kind helm]

took me 2 hours to install 2 ssd

i feel old and useless

[cyan lark]

Sounds more like young and useless, but same difference 😉

Did something go wrong?

[fluid ravine]

https://geon.works/products/key-kobo-jindo?variant=44315960213667 wait i want this D:

[kind helm]

other than the fact that my knees are shaking seems alright

[ionic breach]

shine through?

[fluid ravine]

[ionic breach]

oh they meant caps indicator i think

[kind helm]

time to install more video games that i dont play

[tidal frigate]

Man buy 4tb nvme

[kind helm]

poor

[tropic urchin]

man speaketh the truth in this case

or even 2x 2TB NVMEs

4x SSDs is tuff

[stray tiger]

Debating if I should get it with or without the riser

[harsh dove]

What's the riser for?

Like a wedge?

[harsh dove]

Yeah thought so

I'd probably get it

Guess it depends how it sounds on it too though

But what if it sounds better

Does it just rest on it or does it attach in some way?

[harsh dove]

oo a teak wood

Yeah I'd get it lol

3 degree would be similar to the 80he stock feet too

those are 2.8

[thorn zealot]

Who would do -3 angle

[untold wigeon]

@harsh dove do you have a sound test for normal raws and duhuk no foam

[ionic breach]

its more popular than u'd think

[untold wigeon]

Please tell me this is cad

[harsh dove]

USD

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/you-betcha-eh-canadian-canada-minnesota-gif-16819085

[harsh dove]

It's Titanium

[tropic urchin]

Holy shit I just looked at the price LMAO

[stray tiger]

Diamond polished switches

[harsh dove]

and it's also Norbauer

High End Enthusiast

[tropic urchin]

Keyboard sponsored by Rolex type shiii

[untold wigeon]

Why get this it’s 8k

[harsh dove]

lol

[cyan lark]

It's nice to have money 🙂

[untold wigeon]

That’s like 4 months of rent in the us

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/poor-peasant-gif-20256278

[harsh dove]

Don't pocket watch

[tropic urchin]

Thock father about to drop the pokimane gif

Legendary

[cyan lark]

You'll get there

[harsh dove]

[cyan lark]

With some luck

[harsh dove]

and consistency

[ionic breach]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-coin-dedcel-dogecoin-rise-up-stonks-gif-21540194

time to bet it all in crypto

[cyan lark]

🙅

[ionic breach]

or red

im not against it

[tropic urchin]

5 years too late for crypto

[harsh dove]

Put it all in on black

https://tenor.com/view/roulette-game-gif-6892854051717800041

[tropic urchin]

Cam went homeless betting on black, it’s time for red

[untold wigeon]

Cam

Can I get ur ttc to test out

[ionic breach]

Red = Bull = Increase in Stock Market, the logic is there

[harsh dove]

What

[untold wigeon]

Ur koms

Can I get

[harsh dove]

No

[untold wigeon]

30 dollars take it or leave it

[harsh dove]

lol

[untold wigeon]

Why not

I need them for my schizo hobby

🤓

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-leave-leaving-pepe-peepo-frog-gif-21562981

[cyan lark]

How's the Leggera Cam? Missed the build

[harsh dove]

It's pretty neat for the price

I like it so far

[quasi hinge]

My buddy modder offered to help with the silver CF plate

Apparently CF dust is toxic lol

[harsh dove]

It's basically a gummy mounted Frog Mini

and not as heavy

[cyan lark]

Oh shit, I woulda recommended a respirator to be safe regardless, didn't know that though 😨

[quasi hinge]

He will shave or file it down for me using a respirator

[cyan lark]

Nice, I'm considering it... never tried gummy mount, nor Frog Mini

[untold wigeon]

?

Best gaming switch

[cyan lark]

I am still kinda head over heels w/ my RNG Salv, and they kinda seem like cousins

[quasi hinge]

Yes but go for pom

[quasi hinge]

Yoooo thats a nice deal

[untold wigeon]

Pom is 85 for 70 for me

[quasi hinge]

The deal you posted is hard to pass up

[untold wigeon]

Wooting ttc or regular

[quasi hinge]

Pom is just for sound everything else the same

[harsh dove]

Yeah it basically achieves what the Salvation does in a different way or more traditional way, if you will

[quasi hinge]

I prefer regular as it is lower actuation

[untold wigeon]

Yeah I just modded my venom with duhuks

And I hate it

[quasi hinge]

45 or 48 vs 55

[quasi hinge]

I feel yeah, id hate myself too if I had a venom

AND duhuks

[untold wigeon]

Wow

[ionic breach]

btw pom needs a relubing

[ionic breach]

mjj doxxing u rn

[quasi hinge]

Doing Gods work sir

Let him try

I got no social media, couldnt give a flying duck

[ionic breach]

I dont hate the duhuks honestly but raws is just so good

owlabs might be my only upgrade since its just raws but better

[quasi hinge]

How legit is this?

[harsh dove]

That chart?

It’s from Eyejoker so it’s legit

[quasi hinge]

Yes

Ty

[harsh dove]

He’s a very reputable tester in the East

https://eyejokerdb.com/benchmarks/keyboard

[quasi hinge]

Is there an english option

[harsh dove]

I have my browser translate it

[quasi hinge]

Haters gna hate

[sacred elm]

another venom npc rage baiting in wooting discord

must be very bored

[polar girder]

man had random disconnect maybe on venom

not 100% sure if it's 100% stable

never had this issue with wooting. idk

was in a faceit game too. luckily it wasn't as bad as last time

i really fucking hate that usb disconnect noise tho

[fluid ravine]

my only problem with venom rn is just some keys dont work at time to time

it can be any key

only simple fix is just to debug/recalibrate in venom.how

[stray tiger]

No disconnect issues for me or any keys randomly not working. Hopefully it stays that way.

[fluid ravine]

yeah same here

[polar girder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/s/vY5A9ifeew

All sealed

[polar girder]

Hmm I’ll have to check that out. Thanks.

[polar girder]

Good to hear bro. Hope so too.

[untold wigeon]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLKiDpH

hey so im struggling to understand the purposenof this base plate

are u supposed to put it underneath the pcb and then it acts as a dust cover for the holy60?

[stray tiger]

https://shop.wuquestudio.com/products/ws-flux-switch gnight boys

[fluid ravine]

Pc bottom?!

👀

[fluid ravine]

midget ah spring

[kind helm]

fully closed bottom, stem looks different from usual stuff

wait a minute

sorry i am too poor to look at them

[fluid ravine]

wait...

oh hell no

[sacred elm]

wait, is that 20$ for 10pc?

💀

[fluid ravine]

"tactile consistency"

[harsh dove]

Get rekt POM enjoyers

New King in Town

[fluid ravine]

oh shoot

it has the ball bearing feature

oh shit-

wait

am i reading wrong

[kind helm]

doesnt look like ball bearing to me

[fluid ravine]

where's the ball bearing

yeah

that's what im saying

[kind helm]

underneath there?

[fluid ravine]

💀

this is actually pretty interesting

[harsh dove]

T Rails too

[fluid ravine]

this part caught my eye

[kind helm]

this part hurt my eye

[fluid ravine]

oh hell no

oh shoot it uses a kahil styler opener

interesting

[fluid ravine]

wait this is kinda interesting though im not gonna lie

and the clips are a bit different

it has the buckle design

but there's a lil piece that is sticking out to secure the plate grip a bit more by a slight bit

[fluid ravine]

could be promising but im not gonna say anything

PC bottom hmmm

70pc for $60 ws dash 😭

gg

triple stage HE spring when

[calm pulsar]

if my calculations are correct this is 2 dollers per switch

☠️

[calm pulsar]

diffusers again😭

[untold wigeon]

😭

[tawdry tree]

Light diffuser? Maybe take it out and see if it seats properly. If it does, it was installed incorrectly.

[untold wigeon]

I’ve been meaning to ask you a question

[tawdry tree]

🥴

[harsh dove]

I got chat on screen now

[fluid ravine]

[tawdry tree]

He means RGB effects probably.

[fluid ravine]

hey ma im gonna be famous!

[harsh dove]

lol

spamming my own chat to test lol

[fluid ravine]

hey no spamming!

[untold wigeon]

DMs brother

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, it’s on all but quite easy to miss.

[harsh dove]

Im weak

[fluid ravine]

alr unc

where does it hurt

the back?

knees?

shoulders?

[harsh dove]

mf

[fluid ravine]

[harsh dove]

[fluid ravine]

yknow it's ironic that all those hurts for me

esp the back

[harsh dove]

Not good

[fluid ravine]

indeed

i just jumped once today during dismissal and boom

it hurts even more now

gg

and bro bro got a game tmr 😭

[harsh dove]

Better rest up

[fallen pecan]

ball bearings here, from a different switch lmao

[tawdry tree]

Top and bottom raw data/flux on the Sayo (there isn’t anything better I’ve come across yet). Fluctuation on the HM’s switch tester. Offers decent insight and seems to match others’ findings.

[fluid ravine]

yeah exactly and im wondering where tf the ball bearing system is in those switches shown earlier 😭

[fallen pecan]

pretty sure they just copy pasted from a previous listing

[fluid ravine]

smh

shaking my smh

[calm pulsar]

time out this guy

[kind helm]

supposed to be super smooth then

from what i read about the mx ball bearing ones they are really smooth

[fluid ravine]

yeah they are

[kind helm]

and HE has no leaf so even more room for extra smoothness

https://tenor.com/view/bruno-mars-smooth-gif-21752413

that song is fire btw

[fluid ravine]

need to make sure the ball bearings are not magnetic as well

and i think most ball bearing use balls that are magnetic

i think

[kind helm]

@tawdry tree do you plan to get 10 of them for... collection purpose?

i would like to know your thoughts on the these

[fluid ravine]

im honestly kinda curious about htem

[kind helm]

your thought is meaningless because you got no money

[tawdry tree]

If Imoshi is, I am as well. 😌

[fluid ravine]

esp structural design

[kind helm]

👀

[calm pulsar]

time to get a job

[fluid ravine]

meh meh meh

[fluid ravine]

keyboard commisions

🙏

[calm pulsar]

did Bigsly end up getting one?

[kind helm]

sry drunk joshy is in joshibal mode

[fluid ravine]

he already lubed his pom pom

and stabs

[calm pulsar]

ah so he decided to put in some work after all lol

[tawdry tree]

There is a ball bearing magnetic switch already

but it isn’t that special iirc

[fluid ravine]

yup

[kind helm]

please elaborate if you are willin

[stoic herald]

I have had the wooting60HE since founders campaign at stock, should I get a new keyboard or keep this one? I am thinking venom60HE but the gateron gt60pro build is cheaper. Or should i keep this keyboard and just get a leggara and geon raw he switches?

[indigo river]

Soon…

[fluid ravine]

gateron gt60 pro 💀

geegee

[kind helm]

if you really dont mind friction mount or you can find a frog mini somewhere i be too lazy to get venom. but otherwise venom on top for me personally

[fluid ravine]

oh shit

how come i never seent his

[kind helm]

thats kinda smart

like i thought about that when i saw the ball bearing mx switch for the first time

[fluid ravine]

oh shi they put the balls inside the stem pole

[stoic herald]

its in stock on geons website, so I should build the geon?

[kind helm]

why not just make the magnet into a ball

[fluid ravine]

rather than inside the bottom out hole

[kind helm]

depends on where you are

[tawdry tree]

yeah, the rails aren’t really used to stabilize the switch.

[fluid ravine]

wouldnt that cause some inconsistency?

[stoic herald]

US

[tawdry tree]

🤣🤣

[kind helm]

but actually if you are getting leggera as well then geonworks probably makes sense

[stoic herald]

prob cheaper to build a venom if you are getting the case and switches anyways right?

[fluid ravine]

well i meant like i swore i saw some mx ball bearing switches having the ball bearings inside the bottom housing stem hole

this part

[stoic herald]

all from geon

[kind helm]

hows a ball gonna be different from a cylinder in terms of flux :3

[kind helm]

unless the ball is wiggling

[fluid ravine]

well i was thinkig of this

wiggling or spinnin

lol

if it's completely still then yeah ig

[kind helm]

spinning probably dont matter from my really really limited understanding

[fluid ravine]

well i got no knowledge with flux or magnets

sooo

[tawdry tree]

the reverse of that switch basically

[fluid ravine]

i only know north and south pole LOL

[fluid ravine]

ah ok

[sacred elm]

keep and swap switches with owlabs ti or duhuks

[tawdry tree]

rolling would.

[kind helm]

yea then its changing location

:3 everything be fcked

[stoic herald]

i heard you can combine raws and duhuks for rawduks

[sacred elm]

just buy owlabs switches if you can

[kind helm]

ti he probably works better for leggera imo

leggera with rawhuk maybe loud af

[tawdry tree]

woot supports both poles so it’d just be a few deadspots throughout the stroke, nothing much 😭

[stoic herald]

so keep wooting or get venom, im conflicted lol

[kind helm]

what if the little thingy roll unpredictably

[tawdry tree]

[sacred elm]

I would keep it, swap switches and plate and be happy

and case if you want

[stoic herald]

okay, thank you

[kind helm]

like say lube keeping it on top of that rail thingy

not sure how realistic that scenario is though

[tawdry tree]

I think it already rolls unpredictably. Not perfectly smooth

it kinda matters and kinda not

it defeats the purpose

but it’s still smooth

[kind helm]

tiny imperfections that complicates the calibration

[tawdry tree]

calibration can tank

😌

[kind helm]

whoever doing the algorithm of he pcb probably gonna want to k themselves

[tawdry tree]

Simon 😭

[kind helm]

"how tf am i supposed to predict this shit i am cs not physics major"

[harsh dove]

Better put some respek on my boi Simon

[fluid ravine]

I hope you know, you'll be so proud of how much progress you made in the future TenZ Jr.

[kind helm]

tenz be sad if he knows tenz jr in diamond

[fluid ravine]

shhh

[harsh dove]

This was like my first wooting pic

[kind helm]

i didnt believe in he until raw he

[fluid ravine]

i wanna go back in time and just flex on myself

[kind helm]

raw he brough light to the world of HE imo

[fluid ravine]

i think jade was the starting factor

at the time for me

[kind helm]

jade was high pitched af

like i put foams

FOAMS

a lot of foams

[harsh dove]

I liked Jades lol

[fluid ravine]

yeah but it was a lot better than the normal ks20's

[harsh dove]

they were popular

[kind helm]

to try to reduce the high pitch sound

[fluid ravine]

ever since jades came out

they were like how raws are when they got popular

[kind helm]

i just thought jade sounded like that because of the magnet -> HE is fcked

then raw came out

then i saw the light

[fluid ravine]

nah we honestly already found the reason why HE sounded so shit

[kind helm]

[fluid ravine]

but just needed like a manu to actually fix it

which was the mold and tolerances

that causes the chatter

from the ks20 lineup

thanks to STM and the noticeable stem wobble we were able to identify the problem of performance to sound

raptors wasn't that much of a difference till Jades came out

months later then raws came out

and etc

[kind helm]

then i appeared in this channel

a wild joshiba

[fluid ravine]

yeah you came in when raws came out actually

wait no..

no you came in when raws got popular i think

you joined earlier this year right?

feb?

i think?

[kind helm]

L memory

[fluid ravine]

oh FUCK

my memory is SHIT

ok nvm then yeah you came in when raws came out

😭

[untold wigeon]

W or L

[fluid ravine]

so ig this makes sense

[kind helm]

W

[untold wigeon]

I’m schizo

[fluid ravine]

dub

cheaper than jade pros i think

[untold wigeon]

I can get jade pros for 40

[fluid ravine]

jade pros 70pc is $60 right?

[fluid ravine]

well yeah that's just aliexpress

talking about msrp or og price

[kind helm]

50 something on amazon, lasst blackfriday was 40 when i brought them

[fluid ravine]

ah

[kind helm]

if jade pro is 60 i spit on them like i spit on pom at their regular price

[untold wigeon]

He is so cheeks

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[untold wigeon]

Ngl

Might just buy a rk61 and mod it or smth

[fluid ravine]

oh hell no rk61 😭

[quasi hinge]

Went back to black CF, big difference in tolerance

[fluid ravine]

bro's puting low standards on HE or sum shi

jeejee

[fallen pecan]

cf tolerance pretty cheeks

[fluid ravine]

[kind helm]

honestly i personally would go for venom over anything else until gateron possibly fix their shit

[untold wigeon]

He just sounds like buns regardless

[quasi hinge]

Look at the silver behind it

[fluid ravine]

eh give it time

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[untold wigeon]

They’re not they lie to much

The gt60 pro is ass

.04 Ms of delay

[fluid ravine]

i can agree to that

[untold wigeon]

In reality it was .28

I mean .18

Or .11

[kind helm]

wooting = over priced, chinese board = L support and sus sites(and i say that as a chinese who speak both mandarin and cantonese, not abc)

venom is the one true king imo

[untold wigeon]

Wooting needs to lower prices

[kind helm]

for now

[untold wigeon]

60he should be 135

[kind helm]

they can keep their price high if they have db

[untold wigeon]

All Wooting needs is better prices

[fluid ravine]

i'd put wooting 60he at 140-150 imo

[untold wigeon]

Like cmon man really ur paying 175 for abs case

[fallen pecan]

why drop prices if they're the market leader

[untold wigeon]

Bad prices but in todays world anybody will buy anything if it’s good enough

[glacial wind]

Good luck with that. Folks always talk about pricing but forget all the things wooting does that results in less min max pricing ability

[fluid ravine]

eh im not gonna complain much

only price tags i would complain about is the fucking switches lol

[kind helm]

no point complainting when you have what you want

[fluid ravine]

flipping ttc poms running at $100 last time i check

[fluid ravine]

exactly!

[quasi hinge]

check ali express

[fluid ravine]

i got everything i wantneed out of my HE board

[untold wigeon]

Ttc poops

[fluid ravine]

only thing i need rn is just a good looking cable if i could afford one (put the geon cable to the side for now) and new switches

[untold wigeon]

They sound horrendous

[kind helm]

you "need" a stock wooting60he but you want a venom + leggera

k

[sacred elm]

wooting should lower prices, atk edge 60 extreme ultra pro hd clears

[fluid ravine]

want* new switches

HMX switches when

[glacial wind]

want a company not fully based in Asia? Providing benefits for all employees, proper work hours and profit sharing? Experiment with building its own products? - none of that is possible if you start min maxing profit margins to try sell wooting for same as Chinese brands

[untold wigeon]

I mean I learned it goes ttc snake, TTC poms duhuks, ur studio ice max,

Those are best switches

Performance wise

[sacred elm]

ok

[kind helm]

people are not people over there am i allowed to say that

[fluid ravine]

valid

[glacial wind]

there’s a reason Chinese brands can sell products for such low prices and it’s because they’re able to cut certain costs. Just saying “wooting should just price lower” forgets all the things that go into min maxing pricing like that

[untold wigeon]

It’s because Wooting made their pcb

China companies don’t

[fallen pecan]

what

[untold wigeon]

They buy oem pcb and build trash board

[fluid ravine]

[untold wigeon]

Wooting made and designed their own pcb if you take apart the mad for example you’ll see some mass produced pcb that was made by some random dude in china

And is getting mass produced

That’s why you only get venom Wooting or made68

[quasi hinge]

Buy cheap, buy twice

Although, many here have paid high and bought twice, thrice lol

[kind helm]

buy twice, still cheaper

[harsh dove]

[untold wigeon]

I mean I bought china junk refunded it all thankfully