#🔧│keyboard_modding

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glacial wind
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You’d literally have every tech reviewer making a YouTube video saying “wooting just introduced true 0.01 sensitivity and it’s as stupid as you imagine”

harsh dove
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I can start my youtube arc with that

kind helm
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camundercover, the performance min maxxer

glacial wind
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Lol that reminds me of red resort that does that sort of thing too. I think their marketing campaign was named “Red sucks”

snow yarrow
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Btw, something i noticed in gateron gt60 pro software vs advertisement dogekek

jaunty grove
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jade pros or jade gaming or gateron star trail? any recs?

glacial wind
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Where it’s no longer about sensitivity because they can’t go lower but now about how accurate you can get even though we’re reaching beyond human perceptions of movement accuracy

harsh dove
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Yeah thats what started all this lol

kind helm
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duck_sip the whole point is to find the limit not to use the limit, if you gonna spend a ton of money especially for gaming purpose why go for something worse

glacial wind
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People have to realize when we start reaching into the 1/5th of a human hair levels of things then you’ve lost the plot

magic walrus
little glen
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That difference is everything

kind helm
harsh dove
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I just didn't think we needed our keyboards to be as precise and surgical as brain/heart surgery or launching a rocket into space, we just type on them and play video games lmfao

kind helm
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i am too poor

sacred elm
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be honest

magic walrus
glacial wind
harsh dove
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But nah, need that 0.00001 RT otherwise im average and will never make it to Grand Master or Celestial or whatever that shit called

kind helm
sacred elm
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not only pcb

steel ibex
little glen
stray tiger
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What I realy enjoy is the placebo affect that the marketing has on people though. "I compared the GT60 to the 60HE and setting the GT60 to .09 felt so much better than my wooting set at .10. It was like night and day"

little glen
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When there‘s a kid with free dell mouse/kb and monitor from the dumpster that beats them

magic walrus
kind helm
harsh dove
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Placebo is strong

kind helm
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tofu 2.0 i think 100 case 50 caps 10 plates 65 pcb

harsh dove
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Like the guy who insisted that WS Dashes were different than Jades

sacred elm
steel ibex
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Night and day trust

magic walrus
steel ibex
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Went from iron to radiant

glacial wind
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I get it the value chasing to an extent, but sometimes the crowd who focus solely on min max money value forget there’s a large crowd of people who buy not solely based on money min max value - different values for different people is a big thing in markets

magic walrus
little glen
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Actually buying a wooting made me go back in time and win several quake tournaments with elon musk

kind helm
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just sayin

magic walrus
kind helm
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comon now

tropic urchin
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What about the people in front of it

magic walrus
glacial wind
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I mean what’s your definition of ‘shit on’

magic walrus
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Gotta Go and fight musk and the Joker now xd

harsh dove
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I think he just means price

kind helm
kind helm
harsh dove
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Which doesn't apply to me cause Geon shipping is atrocious

magic walrus
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Na idc Go for Ur venom

harsh dove
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So price is out of the picture

kind helm
sacred elm
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bro listed everything with 40% discount

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ok

kind helm
magic walrus
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Can someone help me out if I should upgrade plate or stabs

sacred elm
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we gonna add shipping to that or naah

glacial wind
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I think the interesting thing is if we want real world usage of things in games, t1 meteor was literally given a custom built venom by eyejoker and he still uses his old wooting over it for competitive tourneys

kind helm
sacred elm
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geon shipping is like 40$ or something

kind helm
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the 40 yo man who lives in the mountains gotta pay 60 somethin

stray tiger
harsh dove
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Yeah its 60

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so I don't buy from geon

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and he don't give me discounts

night atlas
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anyone try the skylines switches yet? I impulse bought a pack

glacial wind
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I’m pretty sure the shitting part happens when my friend goes and buys a Logitech keyboard instead because his eyes glazed over when I mentioned how he has to configure his venom

kind helm
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i gamble that sir

quasi hinge
stray tiger
little glen
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😭

kind helm
tidal frigate
quasi hinge
sacred elm
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Yea that dude doesnt stop

tidal frigate
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And i get down voted for recomending wooting

magic walrus
kind helm
magic walrus
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I gotta See

snow yarrow
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At the end of the day, they all have a place in the market

Never will I ever recommend anyone a board with settings that can break their functions, unless I'm certain hes a turbo nerd, like me smile

quasi hinge
quasi hinge
glacial wind
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I am actually curious though how many people with keyboard that go sub 0.1 are actually using those settings in high ranked play

quasi hinge
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Cf has been good to except the silver cf plate

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Looks nice but I need to change stabs or file the plate

marsh saffron
glacial wind
harsh dove
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Damn I was checking something and I can't even order from Geon no more

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bro banned me

magic walrus
glacial wind
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Because every time I’ve tested sub 0.1 boards, sure I can eventually get more used to it, but you start losing consistency in strafing timings sometimes

tidal frigate
marsh saffron
harsh dove
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Says my address can't be shipped too

kind helm
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LMFAO

quasi hinge
harsh dove
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Never said this before either

magic walrus
silk hound
marsh saffron
glacial wind
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I’m pretty sure you actually get worse performance at those like 0.03 type settings because you mistime strafes more due to it being too sensitive

tropic urchin
silk hound
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that plate in the pic was shinyy

quasi hinge
magic walrus
harsh dove
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Just another reason for me to not buy

stray tiger
stone flax
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mreow

harsh dove
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cause now I cant lol

stone flax
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Meow

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Mreow

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Meow

harsh dove
kind helm
harsh dove
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L Geon fight me

quasi hinge
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What if mj is mr geon

kind helm
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that is funny af though

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LMAO

glacial wind
marsh saffron
harsh dove
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Leon

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his new name for me

stray tiger
tidal frigate
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On wooting Reddit

glacial wind
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Eh it’s not worth responding. My experience of reddit is you will never be able to correct people who want to be misinformed

quasi hinge
stray tiger
stray tiger
tidal frigate
glacial wind
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I’ve had people confidently claim I was a different ethnicity, had died and had also transitioned to irl streaming on different occasions when others asked about my whereabouts

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Reddit is an interesting place of very confident statements with often low amounts of real research

tidal frigate
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Well i use reddit to lure People to buy wooting

quasi hinge
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You could literally rip the crack pipe, hit heroin and log on

glacial wind
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I’m pretty sure you described how people get 10k+ karma on reddit

tidal frigate
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If you want farm karma

tidal frigate
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I recomend gaming circle jerk

glacial wind
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My ongoing thesis is the more karma you have on reddit the more insane you are with arguing

quasi hinge
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But Ive read the posts about this stuff lmao

marsh saffron
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I use reddit to fix pc issues

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About its only good use

quasi hinge
marsh saffron
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Reddit seems to work the most for me

kind helm
harsh dove
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Not that it matters but kinda curious why my address doesn't work on Geons site anymore

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I tried refreshing, changing the address, delete cookies etc

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Bro just said nah, you said too much, fuck you

kind helm
harsh dove
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Must be

marsh saffron
stray tiger
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oh damn, a guy in my local community was selected for Nvidia priority access purchase and didnt see the email until a day after it expired

harsh dove
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oof

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that sucks

tidal frigate
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He blocked your IP for not cheating on your 60he

stray tiger
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I check mine twice a day lol

quasi hinge
harsh dove
kind helm
stray tiger
glacial wind
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You know the most interesting thing about people who quote eyejoker is that eyejoker himself has wooting as his main recommendation still for top he keyboard in his 2025 keyboards video

languid kestrel
harsh dove
quasi hinge
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Lmao

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Jk

glacial wind
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He has the 80he there because he thinks it’s the most stable for general usage and easiest to get running for average joe

kind helm
stray tiger
quasi hinge
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Im telling you

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MJ is Mr. Geons secret persona

harsh dove
kind helm
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but i do agree when stuff like 60modular and 80he just came out, they were really good

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:3 i can be nice, see

tidal frigate
harsh dove
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Do we know if Leggera is coming to Divinikey?

sacred elm
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not 80he

quasi hinge
kind helm
tidal frigate
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He meant 80he

glacial wind
harsh dove
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Which is basically all we've said

sacred elm
tidal frigate
kind helm
kind helm
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lololol

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mbmb

marsh saffron
sacred elm
quasi hinge
kind helm
harsh dove
quasi hinge
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The guy took it personally, Cam, you are living rent free in mr Geons head

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Win

kind helm
harsh dove
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Hahah

quasi hinge
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I would gladly be so honored to join you

glacial wind
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I mean the thing is we were literally the ones who told Josh to check out the venom

sacred elm
harsh dove
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YEAH JOSH

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lol

kind helm
kind helm
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hey thank you!

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what can i say

quasi hinge
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Hahahaha

kind helm
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actually mainly it was arc, bro has the perfect he build

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mid 2024 already had venom + froggy

quasi hinge
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I mean, why woulnt he be here snooping on his competitors and banning Cam

kind helm
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Balder i want to break into his house

glacial wind
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different strokes for different folks. People just have to realize that not everyone shares the same preferences and choices and it’s okay if what’s good for them isn’t necessarily the best choice for someone else

harsh dove
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I mean at the end of the day, both Geon and Wooting make great products with different goals and priorities, and there's pros and cons to each of course which are gonna suit different peoples wants/needs

quasi hinge
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Astroturfing

kind helm
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price still annoys me especially because they have been the biggest he brand but 100% agree

quasi hinge
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Or are Dr Evil pretending to be someone snooping on competition

quasi hinge
harsh dove
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You know it

glacial wind
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I kind of regret being the one who introduced the entire he discord community to eyejoker lol

harsh dove
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Me too

kind helm
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what happened xD

harsh dove
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Cause most of us can't read them charts

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I blame you Sno

glacial wind
tidal frigate
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We cant read korean

kind helm
glacial wind
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Then it spread via the various discords

kind helm
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gotta read behind the charts

harsh dove
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we just look for smallest number

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and be like

kind helm
harsh dove
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"THATS THE BEST ONE"

sacred elm
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gmmk3 on top

kind helm
tropic urchin
sacred elm
kind helm
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gmmk3 pro better

tropic urchin
tidal frigate
tropic urchin
sacred elm
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jakubix do you have raeds

tidal frigate
tropic urchin
harsh dove
tropic urchin
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Not even using them

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I’ve seen enough

chilly mural
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mmm

sacred elm
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Jakubix cant wait for your new fake leaks

tidal frigate
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I have tactile lekkers i borrowed from Calders office

sacred elm
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đŸ«” 😭

tidal frigate
kind helm
quasi hinge
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We all know it

harsh dove
tidal frigate
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They cant stop leaking Stuff if u ask right questions

tidal frigate
chilly mural
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when will wooting leak woot numpad

kind helm
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put the wooting employee in leaker jail

cyan lark
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I thought knob was coming before numpad

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The church grows restless

sacred elm
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jakubix is just final boss of fake leaks

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change your name

tidal frigate
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@sacred elm my leaks are 100% genuine

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You have Skill issues to get leaks

sacred elm
quasi hinge
tropic urchin
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Leeks are fire

round sparrow
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leak the knob

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if ur brave

lofty fox
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it's here..

quasi hinge
tidal frigate
sacred elm
kind helm
cyan lark
kind helm
quasi hinge
lofty fox
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killed it with the presentation

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gonna case + stab swap tomorrow

fading thicket
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@sacred elm @marsh saffron Since we talked about this yesterday - what you think about the Owlab Ti HE? I'm still can't tell if it's Thocky or Clacky đŸ€” and they are compatible with HE80 đŸ™đŸœ

tropic urchin
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What color you get bla

lofty fox
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black

tropic urchin
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I got the silver one with Cam, the feel you get from case is fire

sacred elm
round sparrow
lofty fox
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in all the right ways

tropic urchin
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Looking for it is a waste of time

lofty fox
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heavy af though, literally weighs more than stock abs 80he

cyan lark
kind helm
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Balder more new keybort words

tidal frigate
lofty fox
fading thicket
lofty fox
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knob is love, knob is life

round sparrow
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on a real note tho, in the last live stream erik again talked about the utility of a knob sort of alluding to them having thought of a different utility for a knob

fading thicket
cyan lark
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How was the stability on the owlab tis? I dug their sound.

kind helm
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based on what cam said, probably similar to duhuk

cyan lark
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I don't know if I can go back to less stable switches after enjoying KoMs

tropic urchin
round sparrow
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"why would you want a knob, just for volume control, brightness, zoom in/out. There has to be a better use for a knob" something similar was said by erik in the last livestream

cyan lark
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Fidget toy

lofty fox
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random idea: knob that replaces the mode key, and controls volume by default

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but if you press if briefly, it mutes
and if you hold it down for 1-2 secs, it switches mode

cyan lark
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It should just be fully configurable. On the only kb I used that had one, the Q1 HE, you could assign any function to the click, rotatate left, and rotate right.

kind helm
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but i dont want it on the board

lofty fox
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what if it was on a mouse đŸ˜±

kind helm
sacred elm
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wireless knob

glacial wind
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Knob auto translate sentences into zoomer terminology based on how much you spin it

ruby elk
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IT ARRIVED

stray tiger
untold wigeon
cyan lark
stray tiger
tropic urchin
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Those are nice crimson caps 👀

polar girder
polar girder
tropic urchin
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Very red indeed

cyan lark
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GMK Selene when

stray tiger
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Very few Korean inspired kits. I like it

cyan lark
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Those reds do look nice for red lovers

tropic urchin
uneven cradle
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Rassles is a local so gotta show support newzealand

polar girder
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I think I’m done buying keycaps

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Stick to Cosmos

uneven cradle
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Gotta keep going until your collection is as big as thockdaddy pepe_business

cyan lark
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I would stick w/ cosmos if I could read them T_T

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They can hang in my 60 though

polar girder
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Placebo legends

glacial wind
stray tiger
glacial wind
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Koreans love anything related to son heung min

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I’m pretty sure he might literally be the most famous South Korean at this stage

stray tiger
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That's probably true

ruby elk
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I already have switches, a case, lube, keycaps, etc

stray tiger
ruby elk
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I also have GLUB TUBBIS WUPPLE

cyan lark
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Excuse me?

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Did you turn the Zoomer knob?

little glen
ruby elk
little glen
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i have to stop looking at geekhack

ruby elk
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This is GLUB TUBBIS WUPPLE

stray tiger
polar girder
ruby elk
little glen
peak breach
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good keycapset to pair with the owlabs gray case?

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im thinking gmk redline

silk hound
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beta js

peak breach
ruby elk
# silk hound evil dolch

Kinda overrated imo, unless there are tiny red accents on the case you wanna use but idk any like that

stray tiger
silk hound
tropic urchin
little glen
stray tiger
little glen
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yeah that looks good

tropic urchin
# stray tiger

The first agate keycap would actually look super fire on this

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Little light center and darker exterior to match both alphas and side keys 👀

polar girder
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This is pretty tempting ngl

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But I don’t need a fourth cosmos artisan lol

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Unless I made this the Esc key and then ditched the flail and went to the shine through caps lock I went out of the way to order

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Tired of buying shit tho tbh lolz

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Just bought new monitor this morning. Ok yeah I’m done dogekek

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Talked myself out of it. GG

harsh dove
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Might as well follow thru

stray tiger
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You know, Im not the largest fan of UV print legends but Im digging this color combo https://omnitype.com/collections/nekoccino/products/nekoccino

OmnitypeÂź

Designed by Captain.Sterling over three years with an obsessive attention to detail, Nekoccino is a heartwarming tribute to the love of cats, coffee, and keyboards. This set brings an irresistible blend of cozy cafĂ© vibes and feline mischief right to your desk. You’ll find playful novelties showcasing cats in coffee dr

harsh dove
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Lol I was gonna post those to but decided not too

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Not a fan of UV

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Colors are good tho

polar girder
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I think I might just go little guy face from fn to esc and ditch the flail

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It’s cool but not really my style tbh

harsh dove
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Yeah I feel that

polar girder
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1440p/360hz QD-OLED

polar girder
harsh dove
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Thanks for the new shoes @fluid ravine

stray tiger
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What are those shoes for ants?

tropic urchin
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If I ever downgrade that shit lookin real good sheesh

harsh dove
tropic urchin
kindred wolf
harsh dove
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Personally I’m a size 12

harsh dove
tropic urchin
stray tiger
kindred wolf
stray tiger
polar girder
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Rn I have the Zowie XL2566K

stray tiger
polar girder
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Native 1080p

harsh dove
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Boots

stray tiger
polar girder
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I wouldn’t do that lol

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I want to try 1440p

stray tiger
fluid ravine
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Np my guy

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It's for your hiking trip for the mountains for keyboard snatching day

polar girder
fluid ravine
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@harsh dove stream when? 👀

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Dismissal bouta start in 5 mins for me

harsh dove
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I gotta finish my lunch and I might stream after

fluid ravine
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I'll be home in 40 mins prob

fluid ravine
harsh dove
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lol

fluid ravine
stray tiger
# polar girder 14900k/4080

Oh nice, at lower settings you'll be able to stay above 240Hz and have room to grow when you get better card in the future

fluid ravine
polar girder
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Figure I can sell it or my current monitor for what I paid either way

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Try out 1440p and get some glasses and never stop clicking heads lol

fluid ravine
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I might rebuild my whole board when I get home as you're streaming @harsh dove
Gonna retune all of my stabs while im at it

polar girder
mossy cloud
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Anybody here with a gt80 who had issues with the ball catch bearing things?

harsh dove
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I have gt80 but have had no issues

ruby elk
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Does this come standard

mossy cloud
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welp, I think mine is a return

mossy cloud
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yup

fluid ravine
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Ruh roh

mossy cloud
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right side catches are not clicking in

tropic urchin
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Weird

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Mines a little hard to pull off, but both have had no issues putting back on

harsh dove
harsh dove
tropic urchin
# ruby elk

Yeah that’s the lightsaber diffuser, they give you both options

ruby elk
tropic urchin
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personally running lightsaber since it is superior

mossy cloud
harsh dove
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and see if you can tighten them maybe

ruby elk
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gently disembowel the like button for me

mossy cloud
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none of them seem to be lose but I'll try to tighten them

harsh dove
ruby elk
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ik it's Jeju

mossy cloud
modest pine
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what do you guys think about the KBDFans GT-80 in comparison the zinc alloy

harsh dove
modest pine
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ok

harsh dove
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You have more color options with the GT80 and accessories

modest pine
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ye but ur stuck with a 7 degree typing angle

harsh dove
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Yeah unless you change the feet

modest pine
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I just checked and I prefer really low

modest pine
harsh dove
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Well you can't make it lower with the feet it comes with lol but you can make it higher

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like if you buy some off amazon or something

modest pine
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ye higher

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but I like it lower

harsh dove
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Yeah the Zinc is lower than Gt80

tropic urchin
modest pine
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is there a big difference between the zinc alloy and plastic one with the jade pros

tropic urchin
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I found it to be more comfy without needing a wrist rest

modest pine
mossy cloud
harsh dove
mossy cloud
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nope, just right

harsh dove
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Hmm

mossy cloud
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not sure what could be causing it

harsh dove
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And you checked to make sure the pcb is sitting in there properly?

mossy cloud
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yup, all nicely flush

harsh dove
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Hmm that's odd

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Nothing appears to look damaged or wrong with the ball catches?

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Like they look normal?

mossy cloud
mossy cloud
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besides, swapped them around, and the problematic area is still the right side

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seems like they catch, just not all the way

harsh dove
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Can you take off the top piece and send a pic

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Like top down

mossy cloud
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can take a closer up video of how it's sitting in there if you want

harsh dove
# mossy cloud

With the top piece on, was it only the bottom right side not clicking in?

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Or does the top right not sit fully flush either?

mossy cloud
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neither seem to be fully seated

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the left side clicks in nicely every single time

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the right side not so much

harsh dove
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I know you checked already and could just be the photo/shadow but is that one flush or crooked?

wintry yew
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Lubing took me 6 hours lol

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Finally done

mossy cloud
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left side for comparison

fluid ravine
harsh dove
untold wigeon
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It’s shit case

mossy cloud
harsh dove
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???

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lol okay then

mossy cloud
harsh dove
untold wigeon
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Degu hear me out

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Refund wooting get venom

harsh dove
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Here we go again

mossy cloud
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I think it's time to figure out how their refund policy works lol, many many thanks for your help <3

untold wigeon
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Not even considered tkl

harsh dove
harsh dove
harsh dove
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I personally like my GT80 and Zinc case

harsh dove
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lol

untold wigeon
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Really not

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Made a whole new layout for what

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Should’ve stuck basic

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Normal tkl

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So you can get actual good cases

harsh dove
fluid ravine
harsh dove
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You win some you lose some

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not my problem

polar girder
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60% stays winning

chilly mural
# untold wigeon Not an opinion

It's your opinion that there's no opinion 80he cases suck. To me, I love it, especially the default one (plastic and Zinc) because of the rubber feet. Being able to yeet it out for another rubber feet gives it more surface area than some flip out feet.

harsh dove
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Don't waste your time, they live in a world where their opinions are facts

chilly mural
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alrighto

round sparrow
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its not like there is a universal size for tkls

harsh dove
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Exactly

tropic urchin
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1 person has a lemon “shit case” can’t make it up

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Has to be engagement bait

harsh dove
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He's just a venom enjoyer which is fine

fluid ravine
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I'm home!

round sparrow
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the 80he hasnt even been out for a year

chilly mural
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yey

cyan lark
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Damn that venom really rotted out the boy's brain

fluid ravine
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Gonna get my yikb stabs and wait for CAM now CatBla

tropic urchin
round sparrow
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there will be more cases in the future

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like the holy80

chilly mural
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oh yeah, I view tiger lite case to be a downgrade from 80he case. One thing I fear is the fact that it doesn't have adjustable angle.

harsh dove
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Yeah I mean, everything isn't made for everyone to like it, that's why different products exist, just don't expect your opinion about a certain product to resonate with everyone too

round sparrow
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only thing im a bit bummed about is the owlabs colab beeing for the 60

chilly mural
knotty iron
harsh dove
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A product made for everyone is a product made for no one

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Can't make everyone happy

chilly mural
tropic urchin
harsh dove
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Someone will be like "What about water?" thats for everyone

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Then why do different water brands exist?

chilly mural
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There's minerals in water that can alter the taste and its effectiveness being water

harsh dove
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Yep

untold wigeon
chilly mural
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so there's def different kind of water much like there's different kind of game

untold wigeon
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Only 1 board with this weird layout

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Kbd would lose money if they made any more cases most likely

harsh dove
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They are already making a Holy80 lol

untold wigeon
round sparrow
harsh dove
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Someone posted an email response from them saying they were making it

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Don't feel like finding it

untold wigeon
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Kbd stupid for making that

harsh dove
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I thought I had strong opinions damn

chilly mural
uneven cradle
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Why obviously been a good seller, don't know if you know this but Wooting sells a lot of keyboards

chilly mural
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gt80 sells well enough to make them I guess

uneven cradle
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And businesses tend to like making money

tropic urchin
harsh dove
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Yeah I mean I don't like the Holy60 or 80 but people obviously do enough for them to make them

tropic urchin
#

Console wars, iPhone vs Android and now venom vs the world lmao, it just keeps moving on

harsh dove
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Yeah these venom convos kinda getting OD

chilly mural
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it's fine, in the end of the day, we'll just enjoy what we have

harsh dove
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its like everyday lately

untold wigeon
harsh dove
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Too bad there is no best

kindred wolf
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Any wooting 2 cases on the market?

harsh dove
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Best is subjective based on your wants and needs

untold wigeon
chilly mural
harsh dove
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Not everyone needs or wants the "best" latency

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Not everyone is tryna min max their keyboards

round sparrow
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even so do you even know the difference between the 60he and the venom?

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in ms

untold wigeon
round sparrow
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geon and reliable

fluid ravine
chilly mural
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Geon raw can break when you pull it out, sure...

fluid ravine
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yall think this angle fine?

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looking for other camera angles for streaming lel

cyan lark
harsh dove
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To quote Tirade "For example, I've seen a lot of hype around the Venom boards lately (and I own a few and think Geon is an awesome vendor) BUT things that arent mentioned (and should be):

There is no published warranty and returns are limited to 14 days and only if in original condition. The minute you break that DB or USB port off, you're done.
Customers will be required to break out the PCB daughterboard component even if not being used to avoid case interference (not hard, but will be scary for typical user).
Keyboard configs/profiles can't be saved or imported/exported between different boards.
No RGB other than caps-lock indicator (could be a positive for some).

Also, on a semi-related note, there have been some rumors that one of the popular Chinese HE software manufacturers that you find on a lot of the budget HE boards (Geon is not in this group), ALLEGEDLY may have keyloggers/spyware embedded in the controller or web software. This hasn't been confirmed, and may be completely false, but knowing that Wooting's software is developed in a country with the toughest privacy laws in the world, is something that should be considered."

round sparrow
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what's good about the venom is the price, if you dont have a warranty issue

mossy cloud
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@harsh dove I found the culprit

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the diffuser

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the case doesn't close with it inserted

harsh dove
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Ohhh

untold wigeon
untold wigeon
chilly mural
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That's a hard ask to average people

harsh dove
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TLDR Wooting is more user friendly, Venom is for enthusiasts

untold wigeon
harsh dove
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Not gonna recommend Venom to newcomers

uneven cradle
untold wigeon
mossy cloud
untold wigeon
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Not saying I don’t recommend wooting

harsh dove
mossy cloud
untold wigeon
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Wooting has their ups like community and support

little glen
harsh dove
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and software

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and warranty

round sparrow
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and rgb

mossy cloud
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now, how to get the diffuser in there lol, should I slide off the bit that sticks out?

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that seems to be the root of the issue

untold wigeon
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Rgb is bad

little glen
chilly mural
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lmao

harsh dove
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I don't use RGB so can't comment

fluid ravine
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that's another opinion

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:>

untold wigeon
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Rgb messes with latency

fluid ravine
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yeah same i dont use rgb as well

mossy cloud
# little glen

yeah this little bit that sticks out doesn't allow it to close

little glen
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It‘s flush with the metal, only the nub is sticking out

mossy cloud
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exactly, the nub

little glen
harsh dove
mossy cloud
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also nope

stray tiger
mossy cloud
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but closes without the diffuser in

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lol

harsh dove
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Oh wait

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I think you using the wrong combination of diffusers

chilly mural
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RGB helps with shortcut

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I don't have to remember wtf to press and just color

crimson sky
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tf

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can you just snip it off?

little glen
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Oh yeah that could be it

mossy cloud
little glen
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This is what the other side looks like for me

mossy cloud
#

my brain is dead it seems

untold wigeon
stray tiger
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I mean don't get me wrong, there are SOME boards that integrate the HE sensor and the RGB into the same IC. Wooting does not.

little glen
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No channel or anything for the light

harsh dove
# mossy cloud oh, oh cool

The one you had in there with the dots can't be used with that strip that was stopping it from closing if that makes sense

mossy cloud
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yup

little glen
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Just open space

stray tiger
mossy cloud
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wow I'm so stupid lol, thank god I fiddled with it more

untold wigeon
harsh dove
tropic urchin
harsh dove
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Yeah I had to figure out the diffusers at first too

little glen
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i'm pretty sure i went on kbd site first thing to check the damn diffuser setup

stray tiger
# untold wigeon So apologies didn’t know this

Ok, so with better software, support, warranty, community, RGB, innovation speed, time in HE market, and that within the next few months there will be even more 3rd party cases available; can you tell me what makes the Wooting 80HE worse than the Venom TKL?

fluid ravine
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@harsh dove watching your stream from 5 days ago, yes L geon for these non magnetic screws angry_noot

harsh dove
fluid ravine
fluid ravine
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L relationship

harsh dove
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I love his products, doesn't mean I won't complain

fluid ravine
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Shipping cost and bro gotta run around his house chasing screws smile

chilly mural
fluid ravine
uneven cradle
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True I was wondering why I was having so many issues with those screws

harsh dove
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Yeah I ended up swapping them out

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Was tired of dealing with non magnetic screws

fluid ravine
#

?

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if i have em i might do so to

harsh dove
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The ones that come with my 80HE plates

peak breach
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60% percent tmr pcb by wooting

fluid ravine
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FUCK

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wait

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from kbd?

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orrrr

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:(

harsh dove
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Nah Aliexpress

fluid ravine
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afak

harsh dove
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they have these nice silver standoffs and screws

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better than the kbd ones lowkey

harsh dove
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I feel like the kbd ones can strip easily but also just a skill issue on me

calm pulsar
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oh wait I actually don't really need those currently lol

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cause benom

harsh dove
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Lol okay

calm pulsar
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but silver standoffs sounds nice

harsh dove
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Well tbf the kbd ones are silver too but the screws are black and I feel like they could upgrade the screws

polar girder
harsh dove
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Bigs found the motherload

calm pulsar
harsh dove
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was just tryna find that

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cause all his prices are EUR

untold wigeon
# stray tiger Ok, so with better software, support, warranty, community, RGB, innovation speed...
  1. Better software support ? Ur acting like geons software isn’t good by any means. Also rgb is just bad in general its not up for debate on that it causes more power consumption articles show this. Innovation speed? How does this correlate with anything said prior? Geon has been in the keyboard market for far longer. bad 2. Support geon has his own community which is also very helpful. 3. Regardless if there will be more cases for wooting 80 they would’ve just went with the regular tkl layout since already they would have a load of good keyboard cases readily available. And also the venom tkl is better on the enthusiast level I should have clarified since widely available far more cases and you won’t be limited to what’s offered to you by the 80he cases
harsh dove
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I skipped over the important section

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lol

calm pulsar
harsh dove
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Yeah

calm pulsar
#

so the guy would just ship to an address in EU

harsh dove
calm pulsar
peak breach
kind helm
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KeyboardBanned still down after 10 hours

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pain

harsh dove
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even tho its DHL

kind helm
calm pulsar
harsh dove
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Lied?!

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Where I lie Josh

kind helm
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"I dont buy from gaon"

harsh dove
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Lmao

kind helm
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smh my head

harsh dove
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Just not directly

fluid ravine
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shaking my smh

cyan lark
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Articles show LEDs consume power đŸ€Ł

harsh dove
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Don't work too hard Turing

calm pulsar
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smhing my smh

cyan lark
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The brainstuff is getting leaky

kind helm
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sound like someone desperate to graduate definitely not someone like me

cyan lark
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#🔧│keyboard_modding message Just finding this message funny. Saying that an article claims that an electronic component consumes electricity is uh... certainly doesn't seem article worthy to me.

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Also rgb is just bad in general its not up for debate on that it causes more power consumption articles show this.
My dude is swallowing the hook whole

harsh dove
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Would really only be relevant in a Wireless keyboard sense

kind helm
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no rgb, no wirelessgigachad

untold wigeon
cyan lark
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I mean, sure LEDs do consume power, I even measured it. But you can also turn them off.

untold wigeon
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And someone said it didn’t

peak breach
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not on the wooting

untold wigeon
cyan lark
#

It doesn't affect performance, though?

untold wigeon
harsh dove
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"There are SOME boards that integrate the HE sensor and the RGB into the same IC. Wooting does not."

cyan lark
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It just does not

uneven cradle
cyan lark
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Applying voltage to an LED doesn't implicity affect the performance of other components in the circuit

peak breach
#

fun60 > venom60

kind helm
kind helm
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bruh

calm pulsar
# harsh dove Where I lie Josh

I remember how LEDs were screaming in agony on your stream, and now you're omitting that

who are those poor souls that scream when rgb is on the highest brightness??

kind helm
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controllers exist

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but okay fair

cyan lark
#

The souls of the damned (LEDs)

uneven cradle
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Yeah but you can use the controller input with your mouse for aiming, in the games that support it, it's great

untold wigeon
untold wigeon
cyan lark
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I'm sorry my memory is stronger than a goldfish

round sparrow
#

absolute bot

kind helm
untold wigeon
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If you want it get a wooting not hard

kind helm
#

actually no W statements

untold wigeon
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IMO

cyan lark
#

Alright, you are gonna get sick if you spin around any faster my man

untold wigeon
# harsh dove

Just because I say something doesn’t mean you should do
It

harsh dove
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Indeed

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I agree

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wholeheartedly

cyan lark
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I'm buying 10x venoms right now, I have been converted

untold wigeon
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😂

harsh dove
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I just found it funny you said you never said they were bad

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but came in here telling someone to refund their wooting

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just cause they were having some case issues

thorn zealot
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Can we just say venoms are for enthusiasts

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And wooting is for everyone else almost

round sparrow
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nah

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that's what he wants

untold wigeon
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Not just enthusiasts

kind helm
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lol see i am gud i havent told people to refund wooting, i just ask did you place the order already, if yes then enjoy your board

round sparrow
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"feel superior"

kind helm
untold wigeon
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It’s more so for everyone

cyan lark
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If you're trying to make people like your preferred product you are not doing a good job of it

chilly mural
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I don't think my mom can build venom 60he

fluid ravine
#

chill streaming on twitch, stop by if you want

cyan lark
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You're anti-advertising

kind helm
thorn zealot
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Just say ur a d1 commit to geon glaze academy

fluid ravine
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CAM ping me when you're ready 🙏

kind helm
harsh dove
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lol jk

fluid ravine
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and redoing stabs

kind helm
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would love to see you mald in val

cyan lark
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Not sure if you just want someone to agree with you that your pick is best, but if you're trying to convert others you might want to try a different tack

fluid ravine
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LMAO

kind helm
fluid ravine
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shiiii

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one day one day

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maybe later

thorn zealot
calm pulsar
thorn zealot
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Yikb looked too complicated

fluid ravine
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and im gonna clean my board meanwhile

harsh dove
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Idek why its become a competition, both boards are good for different types of people

fluid ravine
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i notice lil hair thingies on my board

kind helm
fluid ravine
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gonna clean itout

fluid ravine
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gotta get the hang of it honestly

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it's a bit finicky installing the wire

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b

thorn zealot
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I got knight v3s cuz I alr knew how they worked

harsh dove
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and half of us in here own both a wooting and a venom

fluid ravine
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me me!

uneven cradle
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Your average person isn't importing a PCB that has no warranty (once you install switches) from Korea and building out a keyboard from scratch

fluid ravine
uneven cradle
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Hate to tell you but we are a niche within a niche

harsh dove
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within a niche

untold wigeon
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Within another niche

untold wigeon
kind helm
harsh dove
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Two good boards in one photo

thorn zealot
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There’s a reason we shouldn’t rec ppl to get venoms as their first he board

tropic urchin
cyan lark
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Venom enjoyers saying that Wooting PCBs are for average people is the weirdest ivory tower flex

kind helm
thorn zealot
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If we rec that 13 yr old dorito wooting kid a venom

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Cooked

harsh dove
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3 good boards

untold wigeon
kind helm
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oh wait thats froggy mini not leggera, 6.25U

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ew~~~~

untold wigeon
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Wooting is the deciding factor whether you want to be I. The hobby

kind helm
cyan lark
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It's condescension.

harsh dove
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4 good boards

untold wigeon
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I started with a wooting 60 then went to tech tok (thankfully I left it)

thorn zealot
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Not the last part

calm pulsar
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I just like 7u layout, prefer no rgb, so benom happens to fit my build nicely, and I started with two wootings first and now I have 2 venoms lol

kind helm
chilly mural
harsh dove
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Yeah it’s a cadaver

cyan lark
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Eh, y'all have fun with this, ducking out. Benom on top? â˜źïž

thorn zealot
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@fluid ravine u should’ve put ur signature on cams case

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Make it truly 1 of 1

harsh dove
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Vooting Wenom on top

chilly mural
#

Venom, Gettem

calm pulsar
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Booting, Benom

harsh dove
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Looting Lenom

quiet ginkgo
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does anyone have a duhuk core he switch sound test other than that frog mini one rn on youtube

uneven cradle
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Both my Wooting and Venom are frogged up PepeBusiness petgeon

calm pulsar
#

most bestest cases for both pcbsPepeBusiness

quiet ginkgo
#

duhuks leaving china quite earlier than i thought

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only been 3 days

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but i bet my national postage is gonna take 3 weeks

untold wigeon
kind helm
#

smile china numba 1

calm pulsar
quiet ginkgo
untold wigeon
calm pulsar
kind helm
#

why is frog boi putting caps back in the tray one by one like a psycho, isn't he putting them back in like 30 min later

harsh dove
kind helm
harsh dove
quiet ginkgo
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oh nvm

#

that doesnt look like that one

harsh dove
#

Nah but I should make some youtube sound tests tbh

untold wigeon
quiet ginkgo
#

i guess this frog mini thing is popular

harsh dove
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at least I've been told too

calm pulsar
untold wigeon
harsh dove
untold wigeon
calm pulsar
#

duhuk is the real meme with their boioioink top out lol

kind helm
#

as well

harsh dove
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Get out Josh

harsh dove
#

But yeah the Duhuks have glass infused bottom housings

untold wigeon
#

Everyone should get TTC koms and be schizo

uneven cradle
#

Can confirm duhuks are weird

harsh dove
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Nah we already have enough switch wars lol

calm pulsar
#

everyone knows jade knights on top

uneven cradle
#

Rawhuks though chefskiss

untold wigeon
harsh dove
#

Sounds about right

kind helm
#

who has tried jade knight though other than mr arc

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fck should i get some black knight

untold wigeon
harsh dove
#

for not overpriced

kind helm
#

black knight + jade pro + raw

harsh dove
#

Can just get Lucifers tbh

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and do the swap

calm pulsar
#

yeah

kind helm
#

ah thats good

untold wigeon
#

is there a list for what switches are compatible with wooting?

kind helm
#

probably cheaper too

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same mold? i need mr aligner to comfirm

kind helm
#

dogekek bro hella knowledgable with switches

harsh dove
#

as in the one we have hasn't been updated in a bit

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can just ask us here tho

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most of us know

untold wigeon
#

low profile magnetic jade switches work with wooting?

harsh dove
kind helm
#

cant wait for mr sno's new site

harsh dove
#

if you mean the duhuks and owlabs

kind helm
#

hope he is cooking some good stuff

harsh dove
#

its the same

kind helm
harsh dove
#

oh you mean the BKs and Lucifer

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Nah different