🔧│keyboard_modding

[tropic urchin]

I thought you didn’t

[ocean anchor]

is there a specific bammerworks one

[stone flax]

Crp wob

[ocean anchor]

are ducky keycaps good im just getting a scope of all the options u feel me

[stone flax]

na

[marsh saffron]

I changed my light bulbs from yellow to white now I can see how bad it is

Gotta clean it 😭

[tropic urchin]

If you’re using non-OLED you can use cleaner if you want, but the easy rec is still Distilled water

[marsh saffron]

Nah i got ips

Just water and a cloth is fine?

[agile grove]

distilled water specifically, yeah

just grab a microfiber and wet it a bit

[heady dragon]

Using tap water on my oled, works okay with a bit more effort to avoid stains

Should probably get some distilled water some day

Though I guess it depends on the country

And even in specific areas

Don't use tap water it it's any colour

[snow yarrow]

Guys, is it possible to make the ttc wooting poms sound like (unused) lekker v2 switches? Feeling wise, the ttc and raw feel almost identical to me (no idea how theyre almost able to match the stability from the ttcs, really surprised me), but for sound, its clearly lekker v2>>>>raw>>ttc for me

(in 80he zinc case)

[polar girder]

Smash the bottom out?

Lekkers are open bottom so they’re fairly different and not much to
Do
About it

[heady dragon]

Which are the open bottom switch with the less wobble ?

[tiny elk]

is it a worth while mod to get the pc plate?

as in is it a massive difference from the stock plate when in a tofu redux with gateron jades

[polar girder]

IMO yes

[trail bane]

Frankenswitch

[tiny elk]

what is it thats different tho?

[polar girder]

It’s less stiff, feelwise

And less Pingy (non-metal) and different sound

[tiny elk]

fuck it

ima get one lol

• it's black so it's better

:p

[trail bane]

Everything from Lekkers v2 except stem, and gateron gade stem

[trail bane]

This is the most popular combination.

[heady dragon]

Thanks, I might look into it, I wonder is the 'rattly' sound comes from the wobble, that said I don't hear it through my headphones

[silk hound]

thockdiddy

https://tenor.com/view/didi-gif-1240408809659404307

get the 205g0 ready

its time to party

[marsh saffron]

Does it matter that much if it's distilled

[plain tusk]

hey so I have the stock switches on my 60he anyone can recommend any better switches possibly?

[marsh saffron]

I do not care enough to go out and get distilled water for it

[little glen]

geon raw he, jade pro, duhuk core he, ttc kom pom

ttc need manual lube and duhuk may need a spring swap if you want a heavier weight

[trail bane]

Djuhuk Bieber is ready for this

[plain tusk]

are they lighter than these ones too? looking for something creamy and thocky

[heady dragon]

No and yes, you take less risks with distilled water, and I can testify that I've been cleaning my oled with tap water for over a year just fine

[tropic urchin]

Distilled water and microfiber cloth usually is all you need

[little glen]

duhuk is rlly light

as for creamy and thocky

those are words that mean nothing but you wont get a thocky HE switch

[marsh saffron]

Yeah i just don't care enough to go get distilled water

[plain tusk]

arent the lekkers swtiches they sell lighter tho or no lol?

[marsh saffron]

Its also ips not oled so it's probably fine?

[plain tusk]

but I was thinking Jade pros

[little glen]

i have made some sound tests for raw and duhuk but please keep in mind that those are only to be compared to each other because they are on a heavily modded board

[agile grove]

non distilled water likely wont ruin the display or anything but it might leave streaks which is the opposite of what you want when cleaning

[trail bane]

Which one has lighter spring ?
l45 or 🐧

[little glen]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1342211699234832485 check this thread for the most recent sound tests and here #🔧│keyboard_modding message for older raw he sound tests that are on a less modded board

[little glen]

🐧 i think

says 35g online

[agile grove]

I would get another dry microfiber to soak up the water left on the screen before it dries and leaves residue

[heady dragon]

I can testify streaks can be a pain to remove

[little glen]

wooting sells a l45 switch which is lighter than the stock l60 but i would say get duhuks, those are advertised as 35g and felt quite light before i spring swapped them

jade pro also good probably

but yeah listen to the sound tests and see which one you like more

[plain tusk]

yours sounds amazing

where you get poly foam from

[little glen]

any hobby store

its just like pillow or stuffed animal filling material

polyester based

[tropic urchin]

@marsh saffron might require some extra work but I’d follow Mr. Mouigi’s advice

[agile grove]

you also gotta be quick

[marsh saffron]

Does paper towels work

I do have the microfibers i could use too

[agile grove]

I would use microfibers

[marsh saffron]

Aight

[tropic urchin]

Now you’re pushing your luck 🤣

@kind helm I’m getting reddit ads for asssassins creed shadows “everything you need to know” this shit is so cooked

[harsh dove]

You have tape mod on this don’t you?

[little glen]

yes

[harsh dove]

Thought so

I can hear it

[little glen]

as mentioned in the thread and in the name of the audio file

[harsh dove]

I don’t read

[calm pulsar]

why read when you can hear every single applied mod in the sound test

[harsh dove]

Nah tbh I read the audio file but it was cut off for me and just said “3”

I assume 3 layer tape mod

I definitely didn’t read the thread though

So congratulations or sorry that happened to you

[harsh dove]

Exactly

[tropic urchin]

You definitely raed

[tulip rapids]

whats the default weight? 40g?

[little glen]

35

[tulip rapids]

shiii thats light

[harsh dove]

I see what you did there

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/sneaky-smile-gif-21330039

[uneven cradle]

Ima try get one of the 1/100 acrylic cases for the leggera

[little glen]

gonna wait a bit so they give me number 69

[uneven cradle]

That's actually the one I'm getting so

[little glen]

[chilly mural]

There's still the number 64

[kind helm]

how heavy is that one

i remember its like super light

[prime orbit]

So uh

How does one lube stabs

😭

[kind helm]

plus btw i dont remember 100% but i think acrylic case would be less hollow sounding right? because softer material more sound leak out or something

[harsh dove]

#🪛│modding_faq

[prime orbit]

Ty sir

[kind helm]

[prime orbit]

I’ll be back to tell y’all I messed it up

[kind helm]

would be fun to make a acrylic leggera + raed possibly

[prime orbit]

Bro just pulled out 4 things I don’t have

Gg

[peak breach]

Thock is such a marketing term

[little glen]

acrylic might be interesting

but how much will it cost tho

[uneven cradle]

Seems to be the same price at least on the website rn

[ocean anchor]

will wusque studio bow double shot pbt keycaps shine fast

[calm pulsar]

thonck

[harsh dove]

No

[prime orbit]

Bro this guy is so hard to follow

He just says

Live here

Lube

And doesn’t even show where

[harsh dove]

What

[prime orbit]

I might just be dumb

But I have no clue where to lube rn

Just all over?

Inside

[calm pulsar]

I mean any spot where the parts interact you should lube

[harsh dove]

2:50 mark

He explains it

And shows it

[prime orbit]

The wife

Wire

He says not to use the lube

And to use sum else

That I don’t have

Do I lube it with what I have

Or no

[kind helm]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-what-are-you-waiting-for-determined-angry-gif-5247874

( i am NOT responsible for any fuck up that may occur)

[calm pulsar]

(see you in court)

I remember someone almost bought 65% gmk keycap set because of me

which doesnt have all caps needed on 60he

[uneven cradle]

Solid office keyboard weight

[prime orbit]

I already did the wrong wire

Bro

I don’t like this 😭

[polar girder]

Wire go in stabilizer. Wire metal. Stabilizer plastic. Lubricate where metal touches plastic.

And where plastic touches plastic.

Usually you use grease for where metal touches plastic. And lube for plastic on plastic.

But if all you have is lube just use a decent bit and don’t add too much and you’ll probably be fine.

Lubrication is to decrease friction.

[steep raft]

So apparently i am not having luck with the way the Lekker V2's feel in the original 60HE. Getting this nasty feeling flex/creak on bottom out. Doesn't happen with V1's. Any ideas? I'm thinking it's the steel plate that might be ruining the V2's for me.

[ocean anchor]

is there a place i can get the black keycaps of same style as the white ones but only the ones for the edges of keyboard

[thorn zealot]

Why

[ocean anchor]

so i don’t have to buy a whole black set aswell just for the outside keys if i don’t need to

[night atlas]

depends on the keycap set, but i know some sell accent or alphabet keys separately, unsure if that'd meet your goals though.

[ocean anchor]

guess i’m buying 2 sets

[little glen]

some pbtfans have black/white accents

same with some gmk sets

but they will not be outside vs inside completely

[prime orbit]

Really hope I did this right 😭

[fluid ravine]

PP plate?

[prime orbit]

Pom

[fluid ravine]

ah

[ocean anchor]

wdym i mean i just want the normal accents not all the way around

[little glen]

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-bow so something like this?

[harsh dove]

I have PP coming soon for venom 7u frog mini

[ocean anchor]

yea but like yk with the ones that look like a smiley face kinda

but without eyes

like jus going up the sides of all on the top

[little glen]

what

[prime orbit]

Cam are you proud of me

[harsh dove]

Why

[prime orbit]

It works

[harsh dove]

Oh you fixed it?

Nice

[prime orbit]

Ye

Lubed for the first time

And not coming off

Anymore

[ocean anchor]

@little glen lowk might just by 2 sets or get ceramic keycaps for the other keys

[little glen]

if you dont want shine on your keycaps

[marsh saffron]

Ceramics mixed with non ceramics would stick out like a sore thumb

[little glen]

why are you getting ceramics

ceramics have the most shine

[marsh saffron]

Bathroom floor keyboard

[prime orbit]

Switches next I gotta wait 6 months at least to have confidence for that

[little glen]

tbf some of the new cerakeys look great

but like

those are the ones that shine the most

by design

[marsh saffron]

Og ones look kinda bleh to me

Like the regular ones

[ocean anchor]

idk i just don’t want mismatching fonts

if it’s a little different it might as well be completely different

[little glen]

if you buy caps from one manu they will most likely have matching fonts

[marsh saffron]

Yeah but the ceramics would look like shit paired with regular plastic caps

They would stick out so much

[marsh saffron]

Also this^

[ocean anchor]

the sun emoji on kbd fans pmo i don’t wanna buy more from them

[harsh dove]

Switches are easy to lube just time consuming

I've gotten it down to about 2 hours for a 90x set

[ocean anchor]

is it easy to mess up

[harsh dove]

I mean only way you mess up is overlubing

then you have to clean them and re lube

Less is more

almost always

[ocean anchor]

why not use water

[harsh dove]

to clean them?

You can

[ocean anchor]

no as lube

[harsh dove]

.....

https://tenor.com/view/veeunus-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-done-gif-24674884

[fluid ravine]

.........

[little glen]

cam did you get the gt80 yet

[thorn zealot]

???

[little glen]

i might try a soundtest without tapemod tomorrow as well but not sure if its redundant if ur already doing that haha

[ocean anchor]

it has same properties as lube

you guys just use ur spare baby oil for anything

[thorn zealot]

what are u saying

[stone flax]

Why do duhuks sound so good

what the fuck

i enjoy typing

[little glen]

did you get yours too now

[harsh dove]

Nah

[stone flax]

ive had them for a day but i try not to formulate opinions until a week

but fuck

dufuck its so good

💔

[fluid ravine]

shiii

[little glen]

i liked on first try

gonna see how i feel about it in a while

[stone flax]

Tell me how 💔

Hypekeebs?

[harsh dove]

Tom hooked me up

[little glen]

i do think the spring weight i got was a lil high but should be fine

[stone flax]

;0

[harsh dove]

Hypekeyboards

[stone flax]

yeeeee

i checked how much and it costs like $54 after shipping

[harsh dove]

I got PP and Red Aluminum for Venom7u Frog Mini

[stone flax]

So pains

[harsh dove]

Yeah was like $97 total for the two for me

PP was like $30 and Alu was around $50

[vague shadow]

G'day, got my first Wooting 2HE with UK ISO(extra key near left shift), just putting together now. got 3 switches(light green installed, Jade mechanical and 12 l45 yellow) and wondering if I should put the l45 lekker where the wasd is and throw some mechanical on the tenkeypad?

[polar girder]

Hype(keyboards)

[thorn zealot]

can u make a sound tests for them

and compare to raws

[harsh dove]

It'll actually be my first time trying PP

I'll make Hopper proud

[calm pulsar]

btw Hopper is a nice name for someone who owns a frog🐸

[harsh dove]

I've tried pretty much every plate material besides PP and UHPMWE or whatever

[stone flax]

No way

You will love it cam

best plastic plate

No contest

[harsh dove]

So I've heard

[stone flax]

Uve tried nylon? And abs?

[harsh dove]

Nah not Nylon either tbh

[stone flax]

0w0

[harsh dove]

Might like that

I think Tom has Nylon option

[thorn zealot]

love it

i rly do

my raws sound like ur h key rn

[harsh dove]

I think Bigsly was gonna try nylon at one point but idk if he did or not

[calm pulsar]

nah bro just collects stuff

[stone flax]

💔

[kind helm]

i thought he has it but only for woot

[harsh dove]

yeah might be

[stone flax]

Its time to duhuk

[thorn zealot]

i think so too

need to prepare for new venom board

[polar girder]

Yeah o have nylon for woot/frog

Too much work

[stone flax]

Compare it with pp

[polar girder]

[stone flax]

Ill take it off ur hands

[calm pulsar]

@stone flax

venom aligns with gummy oring spots in the LX60 btw
now what’s left is to solve daughterboard compatibility

[stone flax]

Rip out the daughterboard

Replace it

Happy

[calm pulsar]

well they have a stupid ass db that goes with the case, but it connects via ribbon cable, not the connector used on venom db

[stone flax]

Ya

[calm pulsar]

and if I try to install venom db, the port is elevated and doesnt fit the hole in the case

[stone flax]

Replace it with jst udb

[calm pulsar]

whats udb? im a noob

ah unified db

well venom db already is the same as unified, but it doesnt fit the hole

but I will try this thingie, if it fits in the case I will be able to connect

[dense cave]

hi, i'm new to the world of mechanical keyboards, I recently bought a wooting 80he, and wanted a case that is kind of this color: #1ecfdf do you have any suggestion?

[little glen]

you want a light blue case

[stone flax]

hmmmmmm ;3

[little glen]

just say that next time pls

[stone flax]

#1ecdf

Fire color bro

Can i also get the hex code

[dense cave]

that's the hex code

[little glen]

i know what a hex code is

but its not very helpful

[little glen]

and its more work for the person trying to help you

[dense cave]

yeah, this color

[little glen]

anyway, the only after market cases currently available for the 80he are gt-80 and bone80

both of which do not seem to have a color like the one you want

so final options available for you would be to get one custom painted/cerakoted

[tropic urchin]

Teal 80HE case would be kinda cool

[little glen]

at which point you can decide if you want to get one of those 2 painted or a wooting 80he raw case

[little glen]

oh actually those do look kinda close

[dense cave]

where did you find this?

[little glen]

google bone80

aliexpress

[dense cave]

thanks

[kind helm]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808066994174.html?

[sacred elm]

yes

[outer solstice]

Do you know where can I find custom backlit keycaps?

[sacred elm]

https://youtu.be/9no2zslHCjc?si=UFOQc3LWHl6ZSLLY

there is also gt80 by kbdfans if you havent seen

[tropic urchin]

I was gonna say if they didnt include a sound test I was gonna dislike the video

[sacred elm]

look when he puts the keycaps, why is it so flexy? lol

[tropic urchin]

I was wondering the same

[sacred elm]

even with pc its not this flexy for me

[tropic urchin]

lil bizarre but i'll chalk it up to L foam

[calm pulsar]

maybe they are using poron plate insert instead of silicon one

for better thonkcs

[tropic urchin]

yeah they are

[sacred elm]

ah yeah, but would it cause extra flex?

[tropic urchin]

horrible

[calm pulsar]

yeah since silicon is way denser, so the plate doesnt flex as much with it

[calm pulsar]

80he knowledge without owning it

[tropic urchin]

hate knowledge is a helluva drug

[calm pulsar]

lmaoo hate knowledge

[tropic urchin]

xD

[calm pulsar]

true

[tropic urchin]

Tomorrow going to be my salvation, white zinc gets to retire and I get pristine case

ahhh

[sacred elm]

[calm pulsar]

im planning to get some GT too

for playstation 2

[sacred elm]

hop on 80he arc

what are you doing

[polar girder]

Being a chad.

[tropic urchin]

you cant say that to a 60%er

its a slur to them

[polar girder]

Fr

Tf

[tropic urchin]

they cannot be reasoned with

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/sit-eyeglasses-hell-to-tha-naw-chill-gif-17092888

[sacred elm]

[tropic urchin]

they already have venom so they have the 80HE at home anyway

[polar girder]

lol actually

[calm pulsar]

oh I sold my 60he module today btw lol
I still have stock og 60he

if they ever announce new 60% booting, im going to sell the og one as well probably

[polar girder]

Right

[tropic urchin]

is that a beon wooting collab lmao

[polar girder]

I’ll probably sell module but then maybe rebuy next Wooting 60

[tropic urchin]

wtf is booting lmao

[polar girder]

baldnwooting duh

[tropic urchin]

that shit cursed ong

[calm pulsar]

just put B in there like benom xd

[sacred elm]

varedis 80he going to be peak tomorrow

not jealous at all

[tropic urchin]

Then I’ll just be edged by GMK Selene

[tropic urchin]

I’m gonna go full lightsaber led bar

[chilly mural]

Waiting wooting to booting the next wooting until looting loot wooting for their next looting

[tropic urchin]

What the sigma

[calm pulsar]

them bars are hard

[calm pulsar]

yeah but remember, endgame build is a myth

[fluid ravine]

Bag lubed my grin springs, removing lube off the bottom housing, reapplying lube on stem and too housing

Having one hell of a time rn

[calm pulsar]

you gotta open a keyboard repair shop

or do commission builds

[polar girder]

Yeah I’d pay to have my shit built and lubed at this point lol fk

[candid bone]

Would a wooden spacebar sound better than a pbt one?

[fluid ravine]

Ngl I do want to!

[fluid ravine]

I'm always here

[stone flax]

Why would it

[candid bone]

different material and what not

That's why I'm asking, I don't know

[stone flax]

No

[calm pulsar]

doubt it would have good tolerances and quality in general, even if wooden keycaps sounded good

[kind helm]

what is that supposed to achieve?

[fluid ravine]

Dw abt it

We'll see

[calm pulsar]

making duhuks good

jk jk

[candid bone]

Thinking about just replacing the ESC and Enter key with wooden caps, just to make the kb stand out a bit

[stone flax]

Oh itll stand out for sure

[kind helm]

gateron's pcb also web tool to change settings

but the switches supported are all gateron stuff

it lets you set per key switch profile so thats kinda interesting?

[glacial wind]

Oh nice, that’s what Simon wanted to do with the per key stuff

[torn rapids]

would anyone care to explain what makes the ttc pom the best on the market atm ?

[fluid ravine]

Loob

[glacial wind]

there's no real 'best' - it's just one of the good options if your goal is max stability

it comes down to preference and what you want from the switch

[torn rapids]

gotcha

in terms of stability theyre better than the jade pros?

[glacial wind]

yeah in terms of stability they're pretty much the best switch out there

[tawdry tree]

I might’ve underestimated Gatekeeperon, it doesn’t look bad, not bad at all. I see that Kanye East guy a lot on bilibili lol

[glacial wind]

kanye east is a wild influencer naming choice

[kind helm]

in the comment he did mention there are still many bugs in the software so still have to see if they fix things

[tawdry tree]

As expected, but will be interesting to see how they handle it.

[rare kraken]

Bro I got a white keyboard case but my desk is white and my mousepad is black same as my mic and mouse so I feel like it would look weird yall know what would make it like match

I’m thinkin abt getting like a white mousepad to even out

[polar girder]

Yo wtf is that

Nice

[calm pulsar]

that's called lubing

[fluid ravine]

lol

i just finished

time to break it in

ngl i expected the acrylic leggera to be cheaper by $10 from the alu

[calm pulsar]

how much is it

[fluid ravine]

you got a setup pic? i curious

[fluid ravine]

same price as alu $69

[calm pulsar]

ic, well maybe it's due to limited nature it's a bit more expensive

[fluid ravine]

could be yeah

'

[kind helm]

i wished

[kind helm]

let me know how it goes

i want to say i am not expecting anything different but thats discouraging

[calm pulsar]

I think breaking in is real

usually switches get better over time if they are tight initially

after breaking in they just become smoother without becoming worse

[kind helm]

no breaking in is real but his different lubing is what i was talkin bout :3

[calm pulsar]

ah lol

I also said it as if it is a consipacy theory

[fluid ravine]

WE TRUST BOIS

[kind helm]

he said he lubed the top and the stem cleaned the bottom, but i feel like as you press down the key the lube would be brough down and eventually even out

[fluid ravine]

i might do some frakenswitching who knows

[kind helm]

follow thock lady's path

[calm pulsar]

you gotta break em in so hard to the point that dampening thingie melts into the stem and the top out becomes good

jk that's just my opinion

[kind helm]

i was wondering though if lubing the leg would help

so the contact between the leg and the top housing would be a bit less scratchy (hopefully)

[fluid ravine]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i lubed the leg

i still get a lil bit scratch

i can't feel it

but i can slightly hear it

[calm pulsar]

finally a switch with the noble MX scratch

[fluid ravine]

lol

[kind helm]

so whats the new strat

[fluid ravine]

for..

[kind helm]

whatever tf you are trying to do

like whats the idea of this new method

[fluid ravine]

damn im not sure to be honest

honestly i was aiming for that smoother feel which worked

but also wanting that stock sharpness volume on the bottom out

but didnt work LOL

geon pingless springs doing good so far

[kind helm]

i think the sharp bottom out would come back as you break in

[fluid ravine]

hopefully

if not then

WELL TIME TO BUY ANOTHER SET OF DUHUKS

[kind helm]

but the top scratch idk, best i can think of is lubing the leg

which thankfully helps :3

according to you

[fluid ravine]

terms of feel?

[kind helm]

ye

[fluid ravine]

oh damn maybe

[kind helm]

i think you maybe can look at how people lube haimu heartbeat

[fluid ravine]

mines dont feel scratchy

[kind helm]

which has a leg at the bottom

its like the same idea from what i understand but intended to mute the bottom out

[kind helm]

so it sounds scratchy and you dont liike that? 👀

[fluid ravine]

no i dont mind it sounding scratchy

[kind helm]

what is bro trying to solve then

[fluid ravine]

TRYING TO GET THE DAMN SHARP BOTTOM OUT BACK

and that funky ass top out that it makes that pochizo pointed out

[kind helm]

start playing monkeytype whole night

[fluid ravine]

ever since she pointed it out im noticing it much more

[fluid ravine]

lol

will do

[calm pulsar]

oh so someone else thought the top out is weird

to me the top out sounded like a HE switch with bad tolerances

even though its not what duhuks are

[kind helm]

ALL HER FAULT

hehe

good to know you can make it better with some lube there though, maybe i do that at some point later on

@fluid ravine do you think this happens sometimes?

the top is normal situation, the bottom one is what i fear can happen

assuming the line is the leg.

[noble mason]

are the poms even worth buying or i should just wait for some really really good switches

[calm pulsar]

no, just wait even more for really really really (3x) good switches

[tawdry tree]

Middle top is what happens when the leg bottoms out. Not sure what you mean by the bottom one? The leg no-clipping through the stem?!

[kind helm]

like slide to the side

sometimes i feel some weird bump when releasing a key

[noble mason]

u right, i just don’t wanna spend that money on poms bc they’re expensive and then a better switch comes out

he switches seem to have the stability down at least, now jsut sound

[tawdry tree]

Oh, perhaps, if there’s enough room for that to happen, probably could happen.

One of my legs (that I noticed) wasn’t perfectly straight from factory

a bit like that.

[harsh dove]

I lubed my legs

[kind helm]

interesting, i wasnt paying attention to the leg at all when i did mine

[calm pulsar]

I think for the sake of stability you could just get TTC RGBs, since they have the same molds as POMs, but different materials

not sure how exactly they compare in sound but they are way cheaper

I had a feeling they might even sound more to my liking (brighter) and ordered them on aliexpress, but the vendor cancelled it due to no stock, so I never bothered to order again

[fluid ravine]

they should have a more plasticky sound to it

[kind helm]

thats why i never heard about it from you

ah

LOL

cause i remember you placed a order a while back already at this point

[calm pulsar]

yeah with PC bottom for sure, it would be like maxes maybe, but there are some frankenswitching opportunities, which I dont really care about at this point

[calm pulsar]

yeah they took like a week to tell me its out of stock

and it's funny cause they cancelled it on wooting ttc switches release day

[kind helm]

maybe secretly its the cheaper but equivalent in terms of stability

[calm pulsar]

pretty sure it is, it's just everyone is hyped about pom on pom action

well maybe pom on pom gives it more smoothness ultimately and it is justified, but still ttc rgb I think is a nice option if you really need the extra giga stability of the box stem

[harsh dove]

I finally found cheaper 80he alu plates

instead of TorontoMans $50 plates

Patience is king

[calm pulsar]

I wonder why they are still making the plates for plate mounts

[harsh dove]

no idea

[calm pulsar]

80he comes with pcb mounts from the start

[fluid ravine]

stoobid

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/phobiamp3-kitty-furios-cat-angry-gif-26396978

[harsh dove]

I don't care for thick stabs tbh anyway

cause too many issues

Swagkeys Knights FTW

[tawdry tree]

typeplus nice

[harsh dove]

Staebies and others can F off

[kind helm]

let wooting user cope

[tawdry tree]

:(

[harsh dove]

F TX AP

F Stabies

F Durock

[tawdry tree]

Staebies nice

:)

[kind helm]

@tropic urchin

[harsh dove]

He already spent $50 on Toronot

[kind helm]

LMAO

[harsh dove]

lolol

I waited

Cause I knew Ali would have it eventually

[kind helm]

i thought he was still waiting for them to restock

[harsh dove]

Nah they did already

and sold out again

[tawdry tree]

[calm pulsar]

wow this is so dumb

[tawdry tree]

plate mount supremacy bro

[harsh dove]

Lol yeah like I said , don't bother me cause I don't use thick boi stabs

but I would prefer non plate mount cuts

[tawdry tree]

I honestly don’t know why thick stabs exist

[harsh dove]

if I had the option

[tawdry tree]

there is no reason

[kind helm]

is it fcked for me to say i somewhat prefer plate mount? easier to fix when there is a problem and can be tuned just like pcb mount

[harsh dove]

Facts tho

[harsh dove]

Yeah I actually don't mind them

[tawdry tree]

can be nice, can be annoying

[harsh dove]

I have some that I don't touch cause they're nicely tuned

[calm pulsar]

well I meant dumb from the standpoint of the manufacturer, cause it's not like files from wooting aren't available

they could just use wooting dimensions for the holes lol

[kind helm]

i heard supposedly the bigger space lets your stem make less contact with the housing so less likely to be scratchy in some ways

[harsh dove]

Oh word, yeah thats true

[kind helm]

but realistically why not just let lube take care of that

[tawdry tree]

just shrink the stem, like SW does 🤷‍♂️

it’s 0.15mm man

like you couldn’t shave off 0.15mm?

really?!

[calm pulsar]

I want to try out the staebies hehe

[tawdry tree]

best of luck

[kind helm]

hey man i dont design the shit

[calm pulsar]

are they considered thick? I believe they were the same as stock stabs on woot

[tawdry tree]

if you did, we wouldn’t have issues like this

[tawdry tree]

they’re thick yeah. 6.8, same as TX, Durocks and Typeplus

Woot stock is <6.65

[calm pulsar]

ah ig I keep my knights lol

[fallen pecan]

same plates, toronto man upcharges

[harsh dove]

Yeah I know he does

hence why I aint order from him

[calm pulsar]

the so called canadian tariffs

[fallen pecan]

they cost around $11, so you're close

[harsh dove]

Yeah I just snagged two for $40

Already about to sell out

[calm pulsar]

anodized black must be for thock

and red for clack

[harsh dove]

I got black and red

[calm pulsar]

oh you gotta build with evil dolch

[tawdry tree]

Ali says that with everything I think 🤣

[harsh dove]

Good marketing

[calm pulsar]

the red alu with evil dolch will probably look insane

[harsh dove]

[tawdry tree]

FOMO buyers

[harsh dove]

Right lol

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think they’ll look good in the silver case

Now I finally have red alu plate for my 80He and my venom

Now just pray they don’t arrive bent

[calm pulsar]

yeah better not be none of that alice keyboard type shi

[harsh dove]

Tbh all my plates have arrived fine, never got a bent one yet

[calm pulsar]

yeah I remember ordering plates from AE, they were packed like keyboards lol

[harsh dove]

As far as metal plates go, plastic don’t matter lol

[harsh dove]

Yeah my last one I got had like 6” inches of bubble wrap around it lol

Didn’t know what it was at first

[quasi hinge]

What would you recommend as the 'best' aftermarket stabs for the 80he?

[kind helm]

what is the best number

[calm pulsar]

what is the creamiest number

[harsh dove]

I'd basically follow Alexotos top stabs list, he has most of the ones I own on there

https://www.alexotos.com/the-best-mechanical-keyboard-stabilizers-in-2025/

I basically recommend these but the other options he has listed are viable too

[ripe tulip]

i highly recommend typeplus

[quasi hinge]

Why F TP haha

[fluid ravine]

yurrrr

typeplus & knights goated af

[harsh dove]

I'm just joking, but if being serious, it's just cause they use a thicker housing than standard and can cause fitment issues with some plates

[kind helm]

wooting standard

[calm pulsar]

good thing geon plates have a sufficient cutout for all stabs hehe

[harsh dove]

Yeah most plates that don't use plate mounts are fine

its the plate mount cuts that can cause issues with thicker stabs

[quasi hinge]

Ahhh okay, I was asking because Im waiting for my silver CF plate from keyboard fun store... Since it will be taken apart again for that, Im thinking I can maybe throw in new stabs

your joking hate made me self conscious about my TX stabs

[harsh dove]

I know I gotta be careful with what I say sometimes cause people take me serious or ask me for advice lol

[quasi hinge]

It is why I asked haha

Thank you for clarifying

[calm pulsar]

naah I had good experience with TX AP, especially since they offer a long pole option on both clip in and screw in, which is kinda rare, and long pole knights are always sold out

[quasi hinge]

long pole knights are available for me

[harsh dove]

Yeah I actually used to recommend TX AP all the time until people started having issues

just depends on the plate tho

[kind helm]

maybe thats why clipin is on top of alexotos list

[calm pulsar]

clip ins are goated, so good to work with

tbh I didnt even insert the plastic thingie on the back, they just worked well after clipping in right away

[quasi hinge]

CF plate has been okay for me

[kind helm]

like in terms of the wire and stem stuff you can always fix it, but the housing is fcked then its just fcked

[harsh dove]

That and the price

They're like half the price of most stabs

[kind helm]

yee

[calm pulsar]

yeah, but they come with with the signature scratch hehe

cause plastic isnt as smooth

talking abt cherry clip ins

[kind helm]

and you have to clip the leg

which takes like a few seconds of my very important life

hehe

[calm pulsar]

speaking about clipping, I broke off the venom db from one of my 2 venoms, using pliers

[kind helm]

i saw :3 btw did you buy a second venom

[calm pulsar]

it was successful but pliers had some metal chipped off

[kind helm]

or you doing wooting for froggy

[calm pulsar]

them carbot fibers are strong

[calm pulsar]

yeah one for frog one for other cases that need a db

Im planning to do a build in lx60, but now I need to figure out how to make it work with the db

true gummy oring mount is so nice, I'm even starting to think that leggera frog might sound better than og frog mini

[kind helm]

NAH

dont go there

making my fingers itchy

sell starts in 20 hours

[harsh dove]

I won't buy one cause shipping cost as much as the case for me

[kind helm]

i remember for me was like 20 to 40

[harsh dove]

Shipping is $60 for me

Geon hates me

[kind helm]

DHL*

[harsh dove]

I wonder how much it'd cost if he used FedEx or UPS

[kind helm]

i thought fedex and ups is for within us

[harsh dove]

Nah they got support in SKR

[calm pulsar]

you could check some forwarding services maybe

to see if its cheaper

[glacial wind]

I wonder how much I’d make running a geon reship service for wooting mod channel lol

I always wonder how much those reship agents make since they’re all usually college students doing it as side job

[chilly mural]

hmm, could be interesting to see

[glacial wind]

I’d just end up becoming cam and arcwyn shopper service honestly

I think they order half the geon orders for this channel lol

[harsh dove]

Not wrong

[harsh dove]

Yeah I could check the one Sno sent me , I’ve used them a couple times now and it’s usually cheaper

[glacial wind]

I have the reverse problem though. I can’t buy any sony cameras in korea because they’re all language locked without hacking it

Have to go out of Korea to buy my camera

[uneven cradle]

I'll be in Korea in 2 months

[calm pulsar]

to intercept the 69th acrylic frog?

[uneven cradle]

Of course

Apparently you can arrange pick up from Geon if you reach out

But I could probably just arrange to get it sent to my mates place

[quasi hinge]

I use a forwarder all the time, but it will depend on the country

I pay zero tax on any item that is brought in (some weird deal with customs)

Only thing I pay for is weight/size

[quasi hinge]

If I dont use a forwarder then anything over roughly $170 is taxed like the country's welfare depends on it

[fluid ravine]

Imagineee

[quasi hinge]

So sometimes, I send it to a US forwarder, even from Asia, where the import duty is nothing on $800 and below (or was). Then the cost of shipping it here back to Asia is little maybe $20 to $40 and Zero tax

[fluid ravine]

18 more hours

Everyone take your damn cursors off of silver LEGGERA g

I'm watching

[quasi hinge]

When is it live?

[trail bane]

Pom

[glacial wind]

What if baldson is greeted with this screen

[fluid ravine]

I'm making sure my friend stays ONLINE WITH ME SPAM REFRESHING THAT BROWSER TILL I SEE BUY NOW

[quasi hinge]

I ordered another 70 og poms for my squadmate's 60he+

Another conversion

[trail bane]

W pom

[chilly mural]

hope you don't hear much clack

[quasi hinge]

These are gaming rigs, we use headphones, never have noticed

And since we are OC for any edge whether placebo or not, performance > sound

And I think we can agree that the ttc koms have the best stability rn

Coming from Raws I thought it would have been gimmicky and no difference, but they are much better than the Raws

[languid kestrel]

me in the opposite camp, less sound > everything else

[quasi hinge]

Whatever your use case, respect

[harsh dove]

You tried Mathew’s yet or not a fan?

[languid kestrel]

yeah I'm on the mathews now

[harsh dove]

Oh okay nice

[languid kestrel]

someone put it quite well, they sound like a calculator

[harsh dove]

Haha basically

[languid kestrel]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message this is my poor recording

they wobble and scratch but they don't make any clacking sounds so I'm quite okay with this haha

[harsh dove]

Haha fair enough, yeah they’re quiet

[glacial wind]

yeah sharko found his a tad scratchy too until he lubed

[languid kestrel]

I don't think I'm mentally capable of going through the lubing process again and in general don't feel like these switches are worth it

I think I rather wait until someone comes out with a duhuk that also has the silencing leg on the bottom or something

the wobble on these is worse than lekker v2s on the top of the keystroke

on account of the boxstem it's a lot better at the bottom of course

[harsh dove]

[languid kestrel]

I don't exactly understand how you have a 10km gap everywhere so the switches wobble like crazy but then you also manage to make them scratch

did you put sandy air inside?

[little glen]

@harsh dove doing a no tapemod sound test now just for you

[stone flax]

wooting

[little glen]

my sound test recording got interrupted by mailman bringing something for my flatmate but now i can finish it

[austere creek]

dw ill send more mailmen

[little glen]

#1342211699234832485 message @harsh dove god damn this sounds different without hahaha

tapemod really accentuated some aspects of these switches

not sure what i like more

probably no tape for now

[north zodiac]

hey friends, I was wondering what's the best to lube the springs from my geon raw HE:
-PTFE Oil pen (from Superlube)

-or the good old classic GPL 105?

[languid kestrel]

both will probably do the exact same thing

105 is tried and true

[north zodiac]

Initally bought the PTFE oil pen in case I needed to apply a small coat of lube to the magnets

so fine by me

[jaunty grove]

Hi guys I got the raw hes, should I also get the ttc poms? Are they similar in terms of performance or atleast close? Because I like the sound of raws which is quite sharp when compared to ttc Poms loud clacky sound which I don’t feel is sharp but a bit flat and loud

[little glen]

If you are satisfied with the geon raws then stick with those

Ttc pom are quite expensive and need hand lubing

[jaunty grove]

I’m ok with the raws but if Poms are significantly better I don’t mind getting them

[little glen]

They are a noticeable improvement in wobble

[fallen pecan]

they're better by about this much

[polar girder]

I wouldn’t say significant.

[polar girder]

lol what even is that?

[polar girder]

That’s almost twice as good. Idk about that lol

[quasi hinge]

Just a warning, they should be hand lubed if you dont mind doing that

[sweet oak]

A BIRTHDAY MIRACLE

[sacred elm]

hbd

[tropic urchin]

If you have the money I think they’re worth trying, but I wouldn’t cause any hardship getting them

[remote cairn]

which one did you get?

[sweet oak]

Black solid sides

[sacred elm]

have you seen my silver baby

cat is sleeping

[sweet oak]

Supa clean

[glacial wind]

that's measured movement at bottom out. the other charts by chinese reviewers are flux instead - both confirm similar-ish results

there's diminishing returns though, in that as you get closer to minimal wobble it's less and less noticable

like how you can technically say ttc snake is 40%+ better in some wobble tests than the ttc pom, but realistically we're reaching such tiny amounts of flux that does it even matter

[sacred elm]

do ttc snakes even move? with poms there is slight movement horizontally, when wiggling

there should be somebody with them

here

[polar girder]

Snakes are actually improved Pom’s?

[sacred elm]

secretly using snakes

laughing at us

[glacial wind]

i assume they do but i haven't seen anyone test them significantly because anyone who might use them already has poms/rgb so not much point lol

[polar girder]

Money well spent

[glacial wind]

yeah ttc snakes are slightly tighter poms basically

[polar girder]

Ah damn

I should’ve waited and paid double. RIP

[glacial wind]

but i mean we're already in absurdly low wobble territory to the point where paying extra $100 for it really doesn't seem worth

[tropic urchin]

Double the price double the performance /s

[quasi hinge]

My squadmate

[tropic urchin]

Get that shit outta here

😭

[quasi hinge]

Pimp purple

[sacred elm]

purple clears your lilac😭

[polar girder]

Ez W

[tropic urchin]

Purple > Lilac >> silver

[sacred elm]

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[sacred elm]

silver on top

[glacial wind]

see when expressed in percentages it's way more big, but that's why you shouldn't express stuff in percentages when you get to tiny amounts lol

33% improvement in top and 50% at bottom stability

[sacred elm]

yea it doesnt matter, especially on wooting. we are not getting adjustable deadzone and 0.01 rt until april 2031

[sacred elm]

you know what, my friend also ordered purple beastx 🫵 🤣

[glacial wind]

i wonder how simon is going with that actually

[tropic urchin]

Non purple enjoyer can’t mock

You don’t have it either

🤡

[sacred elm]

I love my silver🫦 💋

[sacred elm]

except the buggy firmware

shaking my fucking smh

[tawdry tree]

Duhuk stem and top housing with the Lekker V2 bottom housing is close. It’s not a silent bottom out at all but it’s like tiktok marble, actual tiktok marble (it is real! 😱).

[sacred elm]

tiktok wet marble??

cream

[tawdry tree]

cream is the next goal

the guy wasn’t lying when he said just search tiktok

we doubted him

but it was all true

🥺

[sacred elm]

wait can you record sound test? im curious🤣

[tawdry tree]

The sharpness you hear is not the switch

I’ll rec one in a bit on the 80HE

[sacred elm]

lekker v1 on top

[tawdry tree]

💀💀💀

This is on the Battle68

😂

[sacred elm]

gt80

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/letsgo-gif-973281010881986608

[jaunty grove]

So should I get the jade pros? Since a lot of people talk about raw he’s here I got those

[sacred elm]

jade pros are similar to raws, if you want to try something different get ttc poms and lube them

well if youre willing to spend 90$

[little glen]

Thocky marbly creamy clacky idk i cant come up with more buzzwords

Tbh it sounds interesting i am interested in the sound on a 80he or something

[sacred elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984799440072220692/1346556291442544770/image0.png?ex=67d3d285&is=67d28105&hm=29314fbc43bb7b825f959f770fc3631db27ff0d73775189f2764d85cc1bd7adc&

[little glen]

I would try it myself but i think i‘d rather not have to swap all my switches again

[kind helm]

what is the best song

[sacred elm]

best sounding switch is what you like

[kind helm]

kinda good

raw he

[tropic urchin]

If you’re entering jade pro price, I’d buy POMs imo, they’re just not close in terms of switch stability.

[tropic urchin]

Where’s my subtle gummy switches

[kind helm]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1dRRFYqExU/

[sacred elm]

what is that

[kind helm]

a vid with english sub(not sure the quality) but ranked 80he at the very bottom of all boards they tested

[sacred elm]

blame lekkers

[kind helm]

which is a way... fair...

[kind helm]

yep exactly

[sacred elm]

dogshit switches

[kind helm]

a lot of the tests scoring low i think were due to lekker

[tropic urchin]

Lekkers need to be retired ong

[sacred elm]

just spend another 90$ on poms

[tropic urchin]

$90

[sacred elm]

actual shame that 80he doesnt even have same level switch as raws for example

shame

[tawdry tree]

price per gram is insane

[tropic urchin]

It’ll probably dampen it a little bit, but you’d need a 8 layer tape mod and all the foam to significantly mute them

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-bourne-gif-22698046

[sacred elm]

what do you mean 8

[kind helm]

i mean he ain wrong, 200+ for plaste board and cheap caps and lekkers

[tawdry tree]

it’s over for woot

[sacred elm]

at least 12 layers

[glacial wind]

jabber already posted the shorts version of that before

[tawdry tree]

for the asian market, yeah

[kind helm]

i just wanted to see what yall think hehe

[tropic urchin]

Imagine buying plastic in 2025

[tawdry tree]

for us and europe not so crazy

[kind helm]

true

[tawdry tree]

much less competitive here as well

[sacred elm]

good thing I bought it in 2024

[glacial wind]

i mean, it's same as what we thought before. His reviews of switches are good and his reviews of overall boards are worthless

he checks raw specs very carefully and rates purely off that, it's why his switch reviews are really good

[kind helm]

yea i dont think it is fair for him to focus on the switch on the board, but it is interesting perspective to look at the board as just a stock board

[jaunty grove]

How can I make the poms sound sharp and crisp, is there any way?

[glacial wind]

the other issue is focusing on raw latency type specs puts boards with bad firmware higher than boards with good firmware

[jaunty grove]

Like those clicky linear switches

[glacial wind]

for example venom on his list would lose to a lot of boards that are far worse

because the reviews are solely raw tested spec of boards based

[kind helm]

venom cant even be on list no? since its just a pcb xD

[glacial wind]

he does keyboard testing too

for pcb stuff

but yeah venom with a typical raw he type build would basically get crushed in his list just due to it's raw specs not being as good

[kind helm]

let me check, i haven't looked into this guy honestly, i just got a recommendation and saw it

[glacial wind]

he doesn't have it yet

he's very new to doing keyboards as well. He used to just only do switches

[kind helm]

wait does that mean all the chinese boards nowadays just pack ttc stuff?

[glacial wind]

most of them yes

[kind helm]

lol

[glacial wind]

or jade pros variants

[kind helm]

yea

[glacial wind]

but even raw spec wise without switches venom would lose

[kind helm]

for the ones i have seen so far either jade pro or ttc

[glacial wind]

because he measures absolute raw specs of the pcb as well

and venom is slightly older now even though it's 8k

but that's kind of why i don't like his way of rating keyboards - it's a very flawed way to look at keyboards

[kind helm]

there are boards less than 100 RMB?!

holy

thats like less than 20usd

[glacial wind]

with switches it was good because he could just measure the pure wobble and flux etc of each switch, so at least that was quantified, but with keyboards some non auto calibrating boards with awful software would be beating some great well calibrating boards lol

since actual usage doesn't matter when it's just a raw spec vs.

[kind helm]

yea i just went through the parts where wooting score extremely low, literally all lekker's problem

bottom rt, top rt, dynamic rt, all from wobble

kinda funny. hehe kinda

[sacred elm]

they are called L ekker for a reason

Lekker v1.1

not v2

[glacial wind]

yeah his main thing was that his tests showed it performed at a 2023 level, which makes sense since the switches are from 2023 level of switches

[kind helm]

i am lookin at his board video as like switch video and its kinda good

mount tai lookin real decent

[ionic breach]

lmao i just came out of the weirdest interview

[glacial wind]

yeah he's one of few guys who goes in depth into the measuring of switches

[ionic breach]

it's for a internship requirement from out school

[glacial wind]

don't tell them you hate pizza, it may disqualify you from the job

[ionic breach]

and I'm gunna be a personal assistant to a retired entrepreneur

[kind helm]

top actuation consistency of mount tai on M6U+

kinda nutty

[ionic breach]

bro asks if its possible to fly me out to China in the first interview

[glacial wind]

isn't that like half of singapore over age of 50

[ionic breach]

rich people shit

[sacred elm]

it loses to koms at the bottom

[glacial wind]

better hope that retired entrepreneur isn't founder of dominos singapore

[stone flax]

it loses to duhuks in feel and sound

the only things that matter 💔

[kind helm]

the dynamic rt part is kinda interesting

[ionic breach]

lmao it's some investment guy

and now does talks after retirement

kinda fun

[kind helm]

dynamic rt i think should relate to both the pcb firmware and the actual switch. the data looks amazing

[glacial wind]

oh so it really is the stereotypical 50+ year old singapore retiree

[ionic breach]

yea lmao

he's 70 i think

people are supposed to intern at an actual company for the last year

ngl this is just a rich retired guy having fun with a random non profitable company

[glacial wind]

become S tier tea maker

he'll have a full collection of TWG teas available to him

[tropic urchin]

GT CASE IS HERE AHHH

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-speech-love-victory-screech-gif-5464277

[little glen]

nice

[sacred elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/990039516620390400/997631476554285186/ezgif.com-gif-maker_-_2022-07-15T183109.613.gif

[ionic breach]

badge or no

[sacred elm]

lul

[tropic urchin]

No badge 😏

[sacred elm]

based

[ionic breach]

[sweet oak]

wow thats a long jaw, no wonder it takes half of my window

[tropic urchin]

I’ll die on the hill that the only acceptable badge is on the forest green

[ionic breach]

ngl i agree lmao

green and gold was my pick

[sacred elm]

actually no

black and golden badge looks fine

[sweet oak]

the novemeber fog case

[tropic urchin]

I wouldn’t buy a black case but it doesn’t look bad

[chilly mural]

Wooting lost

[sacred elm]

wooting always wins

[ionic breach]

I swear there were talks abt this with the 5090

[sweet oak]

price per AI

[chilly mural]

Just include free water with the purchase of keyboard

[sacred elm]

They have web software now

[tropic urchin]

Their downloaded software is weird, but their web based is actually nice af

[high sphinx]

Hey guys i said i was gonna guve u guys a sound test of my frog mini well here it is sorry it is not the best tho @tawdry tree

[tawdry tree]

it’s not just lekker but I assume the way he tests, the switches don’t wobble much or something

most of these cheap boards have haimu or outemu swithes

neither of which perform better than lekker v2s

[urban mesa]

I just build my first wooting keyboard imo it sound so much better then my mechanical keyboard i had before online i saw all kinds of mods to do but during the build I saw that the stabilzer are already lubed wil it help if i lube it again my self and what are other common mods to do on a 80he?

[tawdry tree]

phone on desk next to it?

[high sphinx]

Yes how you guessed haha

[tawdry tree]

that’s what it sounds like

[high sphinx]

Yeah that is indeed what it is also i dont use deskmat its on wood

[tropic urchin]

Might be useful to relube and wire balance your stabs if you notice they’re sounding rattly, try experimenting with different plates, switches and cases (GT80/Bone80/zinc if you got plastic etc)

[urban mesa]

i have no experience in what sounds good imo it sounds good but i dont know whats better XD il try the relubing and case the gt80 was already on my mind yes

[tropic urchin]

You’ll notice it during use if it starts to sound bad for the space bar (watch out if it becomes rattly or notice any changes)

But until it happens I wouldn’t worry since your stabs are RNG dependent for what you get

[urban mesa]

only thing i notice is sounds pretty hollow the spacebar not like al the other keys

[tropic urchin]

You can try getting space bar foam which usually helps

[tawdry tree]

possibly the worst conditions for a sound test haha

[urban mesa]

thank you i order it let see how its going to sound

[tropic urchin]

Yeah this is so over for white zinc

😳

[sacred elm]

white zinc ⚰️

[lapis raven]

why are the stabilisers doing this

[ionic breach]

💀 my superlight broke

[lapis raven]

why can i do that to it

[ionic breach]

maybe the hate was warranted

[sacred elm]

shocking (its not)

[ionic breach]

what switches btw?

[lapis raven]

wooting ttc

[sacred elm]

lube stabs

[lapis raven]

i’ve already done that, but the main issue is why can i push it down on one side and it goes down

and then the same on the other side