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[kind helm]

i think some pcb made in china has that, or they made a special tool to test the flux directly.

[polar girder]

Makes sense

[harsh dove]

You’re saying this only happens on a harsh/quick press tho?

[stone flax]

Sayo

[harsh dove]

Oh

[stone flax]

which stands to reason

[harsh dove]

Yeah makes sense with low ap

[stone flax]

now i wonder what distance that drop is

0.1?

[harsh dove]

Maybe yeah

[stone flax]

less? More?

[kind helm]

is there a link to this information

I want to read through it :3

[stone flax]

https://x.com/kosio_inkya/status/1894732183400755298?s=46

こしお (@kosio_inkya) on X

多分fpsやってて気になる場面はほぼないと思うけど、音ゲーだと厳しいと思う。
osu!ではこれの影響で結構ミス出た

X · Feb 26, 2025, 12:52 PM

[harsh dove]

Yeah pretty much what they said

Don’t think it’ll affect anyone in FPS games

But rhythm games…

Use a different switch lol

[stone flax]

I wonder

duhuk x raws

it would work well enough i think

[tawdry tree]

they are Gateron’s springs

[stone flax]

for the keys you want to spam

[tawdry tree]

🤷‍♂️

[stone flax]

gateron

more like

lateron

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1298725769228582946/1342436149184167966/IMG_8175.gif

[calm pulsar]

my cat farted

[tawdry tree]

it is not linear, 50 at bottom is fine.

[kind helm]

what is confusing to me is that my alphas are fine at 0.1 but spacebar is not

[stone flax]

big ahh bar more rebound when returning

Wait josh

u got it in u rn

find the distance

[tawdry tree]

doesn’t happen on Woot’s boards

[harsh dove]

That is kinda weird

[stone flax]

of the rebound

[kind helm]

i know for sure its between 0.1 and 0.16

[harsh dove]

That’s my other question

[stone flax]

venom tho 💔

[kind helm]

0.16 spacebar is normal

[harsh dove]

Does it even happen on venom or woot

[stone flax]

Hmmm

[tawdry tree]

Tested it on 80HE

[stone flax]

Guy that got it happen was on sayo k641h3

[kind helm]

i will do a few monkey type test and see, give me a sec

[tawdry tree]

Woot seems to have a delay of sorts

[kind helm]

i just decrease it 0.02 step at a time

[tawdry tree]

it just steps rather than jumps

[harsh dove]

Hmm

Yeah I don’t think it’s too much to worry about tbh

Unless you play rhythm games and it affects you

Idk what joshes issue with his spacebar is tho

[polar girder]

I play CS2 and it affects my mental knowing my switches are subpar.

[kind helm]

0.14m is still fcked

0.16m is fine

[stone flax]

Its slow to the point it cuts out the top out and rebound into just a step?

wtf

[stone flax]

Guy on sayo reported it happened on 0.15

So maybe there

[kind helm]

yea venom can't do 0.15

[tawdry tree]

yeah that’s what I don’t really get. I hope it’s intentional though.

[kind helm]

because each step 0.02mm on venom :3

[tawdry tree]

On the HM’s switch tester it is really visible

[stone flax]

Like a slamclick filter but for the return

[tawdry tree]

but not a problem on Woot

[stone flax]

basado

[tawdry tree]

yeah

hopefully.

[stone flax]

That or the wooting is so slow it crunches the rebound

[polar girder]

lol

[stone flax]

[harsh dove]

So not a problem on woot and doesn’t seem to be a problem on venom except for Josh’s spacebar which we don’t know if that’s the cause or not

[stone flax]

spacebars return with more force so i dont doubt it

[kind helm]

I will just run this

[stone flax]

Is this on alphas?

[kind helm]

nope

[stone flax]

Oh shi?

[harsh dove]

He said alphas are fine

[stone flax]

Only the spacebar

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[tawdry tree]

It definitely happens, just a question how much the firmware can account for.

[stone flax]

W

W

W

[calm pulsar]

switch is bad only on one key lets go

[stone flax]

Duhuk on top

[harsh dove]

Right but if it’s not affecting normal use then

[stone flax]

If u use spacebar at sub 0.1mm you deserve it

💔

[tawdry tree]

There’s also not much else you can do in terms of switch design I think. No real way to prevent it with the same dampening effect.

[calm pulsar]

mine is like 2.0mm I think

[harsh dove]

Yeah why’d you use 0.1mm on spacebar anyway

[tawdry tree]

yeah, if it’s not noticeable it’s fine.

[stone flax]

so basically

[harsh dove]

0.1mm on spacebar is wild lol

Asking for misclicks

[kind helm]

also maybe geon would update the firmware later on for venom + duhuk, since he promoted it. i am using raw's switch setting

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[harsh dove]

Yeah same

[tawdry tree]

just try, set other switches in the firmware and see if it helps

[harsh dove]

Since they are 3.3mm

[stone flax]

From the original set of problems
Other than the springs being mid and the diffusers being seperate

the duhuks dont have bad flux at all
the rebound issue isnt an issue unless u use a china pcb or below 0.15mm on a venom spacebar

So whats the problem with these switches exactly?

[tawdry tree]

they are not POMs

[kind helm]

let mr cam do it, i have a ppt to make actually, i already delayed a bit to get my duhuk done

[tawdry tree]

obviously

[kind helm]

[stone flax]

LOL

Exactly

It looks like other than springs

All the issues made for duhuk

[harsh dove]

POMs on top

[stone flax]

Are non issues

[harsh dove]

lol

Nah I like both

Both got pros n cons

[kind helm]

28 dolla vs 65+ switch

comon now

[stone flax]

And the weighting is entirely a preference thing

So what is exactly the issue

💀

oh wait theyre not made by ttc

trash 💔

[harsh dove]

TTC do have nice housing clips

[kind helm]

also i wonder if the small bump would be less of a issue on heavier spring

[harsh dove]

Easy to remove

[kind helm]

mine is 50g

[harsh dove]

Possible

[calm pulsar]

it's not about ttc
the switch is only good as long as it costs 1-2 dollers

[stone flax]

ye

[tawdry tree]

diffuser, idiotic switch design that still hasn’t been fixed

makes them harder - a pain to pull

[calm pulsar]

REAL

[harsh dove]

Imagine Duhuks made with same housing design as TTC

[stone flax]

Ngl when i lose a diffuser i just toss them into a bowl with milk for some tasty diffuser cereal

[tawdry tree]

they are decently lubed hoever

[harsh dove]

Yeah they are

Just like RAWs

Don’t really need lube

Just bag the springs

[stone flax]

@sacred elm tell me bro

🥀

[harsh dove]

Just put the springs in the bag bro

[calm pulsar]

he can't hear you from all the loud pom sounds

[tawdry tree]

he hasn’t used them

[tawdry tree]

lmao

[harsh dove]

The POM Maxxing church do be loud

[calm pulsar]

volume maxxing

[ionic breach]

lmao what is omnitype on

[harsh dove]

?

[tawdry tree]

wait till you get duhuks

[tawdry tree]

lube pens?

[tawdry tree]

boobs for everyone

[calm pulsar]

I mean on MX I have to press 3-4 keys simultaneously to get the volume of 1 HE key

[tawdry tree]

🔥🔥

[calm pulsar]

so theyre all kinda loud

[ionic breach]

"flash8oo8s"

[harsh dove]

True

[lapis raven]

my ctrl key has broken

on the 80he when i was putting the ttc's in

[tawdry tree]

did you order already?

[lapis raven]

its just always pressed down

[harsh dove]

What

[kind helm]

that makes sense, i am retarded. heavier -> harder for the spring to push it upward

[calm pulsar]

what exactly

[lapis raven]

no matter which switch i put in the ctrl space, it is always pressed down

[harsh dove]

Try a different switch

[tawdry tree]

whatcha think?

[harsh dove]

Hmm

[lapis raven]

ive tried 3

[harsh dove]

Weird

[ionic breach]

unplug the keyboard

and replug

[calm pulsar]

dahookies?

[harsh dove]

Nah

[stone flax]

Did u test lower than 0.1 for alphas?

[harsh dove]

He’s saying the switch is stuck

[tawdry tree]

course

[kind helm]

nope

[stone flax]

Its time

[lapis raven]

the magnet is fucked

[stone flax]

[calm pulsar]

yeah I ordered feb 25th, currently in moscow, now I wait for like 4 days

[tawdry tree]

sensor?

[harsh dove]

You didn’t take the switches apart did you?

[kind helm]

let me do my ppt first, probably only takes a moment. then i let you know

[lapis raven]

or the sensor yeah, if i hover over the bit where the switch goes, it acts like im pressing down on it in the wootility app

[stone flax]

🔥

[lapis raven]

to lube them yeah

[stone flax]

Ty nephew josh

[harsh dove]

Maybe take those few apart again and make sure they’re put back together properly??

Just to make sure

[lapis raven]

ive tried the lekkers that i know worked before

[harsh dove]

And the key still got stuck?

[ionic breach]

stuck as in physically or in the wootility app/analog monitor?

[lapis raven]

it isnt the key itself, its the magnets detecting an input, when there isnt one

[ionic breach]

cause all 3 switches getting stuck is odd

[harsh dove]

Oh misunderstood my bad

[lapis raven]

yeah, its like the PCB has died just for control or something

[harsh dove]

Thought it was physically stuck

[lapis raven]

nono, its detecting an input, even if i dont press it

[harsh dove]

You already try restarting the board?

[lapis raven]

yep

twice already

hasnt changed anything

[tawdry tree]

did you unplug and replug after installing the switch?

[lapis raven]

yep

[tawdry tree]

oh

latest firmware?

[lapis raven]

ive done most troubleshooting steps already, i think its just broken

[tawdry tree]

doubt it

you had lekkers before?

[lapis raven]

its all uip to date apart from the wootility, i did have lekkers before which were working

ive tried lekkers in ctrl spot, still acts as if im pressing it down when im not

[tawdry tree]

tried to reset the board?

[tawdry tree]

if lekkers show the same behavior then it could be the sensor but still unlikely to just start out of the blue

you are restarting the board with the switch installed right?

[lapis raven]

just tried a reset and it still no worky, also no i forgot to put a switch back in because i cant type with ctrl held down, let me do that and then reset too see if that works ?

[tawdry tree]

yeah

a switch has to be installed

then restart

then it should be good

when you restart the board without a switch it won’t calibrate properly

[lapis raven]

there we go

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-thumbs-up-good-job-gif-8635051

[lapis raven]

praise the lord

or actually no fuck god

[tawdry tree]

lol

[lapis raven]

any way i can get my old profile back ?

or do i have to do all the actuation points etc again

[tawdry tree]

did you share it before you reset the board? :/

if not, then you can’t

should’ve told you to do that

[lapis raven]

goddamnit

[violet fulcrum]

Tigerlite gaming
Raw 50g on fr4 foamless

[calm pulsar]

I wonder how it would sound with cherry profile caps on here

[violet fulcrum]

Cherry profile POM

bit of a tighter sound

ill put some gmk on it later

[calm pulsar]

hmm the SA ones sound kinda cleaner I think, but could be the angle of mic/camera

gmk would be nice too I think

[violet fulcrum]

gonna do gmk ntd

higher profile i for sure prefer for sound

[polar girder]

SA goated

[tawdry tree]

https://youtube.com/@markerchun

The keyboard community is shit ngl. How can this guy upload content of this quality for a year straight and be at 13K?

mental

[harsh dove]

Keyboards be niche

Not gonna become Kai Cenat off keyboards

[calm pulsar]

Hipyo is our Kai Cenat of keyboards

[harsh dove]

Not mine

lol

[calm pulsar]

[tawdry tree]

still man

[harsh dove]

He doesn't have creamy thock pop in his titles, algorithm not hittin

[tawdry tree]

😂😂😭

[stone flax]

Wheres the foam

Wheres the cream

Wheres the amazon affiliate link

Smh

[tawdry tree]

[glacial wind]

yeah keyboards are an insanely tiny niche, especially if it's just cinematic keyboard enthusiast stuff

[tropic urchin]

Despair

[glacial wind]

there's no story in his videos either, even if they're visually amazing

the market for guys who just want to watch a solely no backstory cinematic presentation of an enthusiast keyboard isn't very big

[noble mason]

i don’t really like hipyo’s content too much

it’s kinda the same video over and over

especially his ytshorts

[glacial wind]

that's his thing

[noble mason]

“i was told in this box.. was a keyboard that sounds… creamy/poppy/thocky..?” barely types on it and moans

[glacial wind]

it's cause it hits the general audience well

average person who doesn't know anything about keyboards relate to his videos more easily than hyper enthusiast explanations. I don't really agree with his takes, but it's easy to see why it does well on youtube

[harsh dove]

Pretty much how I feel about em

[glacial wind]

he good at throwing in jokey bits in there as well to break up the monotony of the boring topics a bit

[noble mason]

the jokes are usually the same too lol

[glacial wind]

yeah he's in the youtube grind model

which is find something that works, then just do that over and over and over

[noble mason]

oh btw are the ttc kom series even worth it being above a dollar per switch

i wanted to try the ttc poms but they’re so expensive

[glacial wind]

if you want to min max stability then they're quite nice yeah, but only if you don't mind price and are willing to lube

[noble mason]

i don’t mind lubing but above a dollar per switch is pretty insane

[glacial wind]

yeah they be pricy

at least wootings price is a bit more reasonable then the original price back at ttc pom launch

i think it was $1.10-.$1.15 a switch

[fluid ravine]

@harsh dove can you do me a favor

Can you like spam press your duhuks in a different pace with a phone recording?

[glacial wind]

i think wooting is like 0.75 or so per switch for poms when ordering with module, which is quite good vs. og pricing

[noble mason]

only when ordering with module?

[marsh saffron]

Yes

[noble mason]

ig that’s nice but it doesn’t help me damn

[kind helm]

@stone flax rt set to 0.04mm seems to be fine for normal typing

wobble no problem

this a bit funky, it is inconsistent but can be due to just my shaky alcoholic hand

[harsh dove]

I don't even use RT when typing, only gaming

[harsh dove]

Wym?

and why?

[kind helm]

honestly if typing is fine, i dont think its a real issue. who tf taps a key like that any way. i was basically trying to force the bump to be more noticible

[harsh dove]

Ah okay

Interesting observation nonetheless but yeah, doesn't seem to really be an issue

[kind helm]

setting is 0.1mm actuation + 0.04 rt for both release and press

[glacial wind]

ngl i'm pretty sure i know friends who press their utility keys in valorant like that lol

[kind helm]

50g geon spring and tofu 2.0 with 60g bowl mount (which may cause issue too?)

and alu plate

[glacial wind]

but i doubt a valorant main player is going for duhuk anyway of all the choices

[harsh dove]

Yea I doubt it too

[kind helm]

val main player here but i dont care enough

[stone flax]

huh

[harsh dove]

tbh I prefer the POMs for gaming, Duhuks are nice for typing, I don't mind gaming on Duhuks too tho

[stone flax]

Valorant players only use poms?

I get it now

[kind helm]

i think for the those keys to be like "secured" probably go as high as 0.4mm

to avoid double tap in that relatively extreme case

which pros do anyway even for other switches

[harsh dove]

Yeah I use 0.4

[glacial wind]

i think my typing profile is like 0.5

[stone flax]

So what are duhuks bad at exactly

[kind helm]

@round scarab check the chat above

[stone flax]

💀

[marsh saffron]

My typing is 1.5

[stone flax]

Shit looks peak

[kind helm]

i personally agree :3

[harsh dove]

oh for typing I use like 1.2 or 2.0 I think lol

for gaming I use 0.4

[kind helm]

spacebar needs to be 0.16mm is a bit sad but a tradeoff i can live with for its interesting sound.

[glacial wind]

i use way lower on average i guess lol

i use 0.1 for gaming on wasd, then 0.5 rest of the keys, and only different for non gaming is the wasd changes to 0.5 on typing profile

[harsh dove]

Gotcha

[high sphinx]

@harsh dove what dobu use for rt ?

[stone flax]

Cam

The left right bottom wobble on duhuks

are better than pom yes?

If not the same?

[harsh dove]

0.4 on wasd

[kind helm]

going to try this on my raw + salv build and see if its just me or duhuk's little leg is the cause

[high sphinx]

Oh ok i see i use 0.1 actuation with 0.1 rt on wasd

[harsh dove]

I'd basically say they are the same, it's just that on POMs you can move the box stem around on bottom out and physically feel it and hear it whereas you can't do that on the Duhuks but I wouldn't say it's a bad thing or an issue, basically a characteristic of box stems

[harsh dove]

Yeah that's fair, I don't see a reason to really go that low, I feel like people just go that low cause they can, not that they need too, not speaking for everyone obviously

[stone flax]

💔 so duhuks feel more stable on bottom out because theres literally no wobble perceptibly

[harsh dove]

Basically

[stone flax]

ok

[harsh dove]

But they are both extremly stable

[kind helm]

so duhuk's bump does cause issue when you slam the key (of course the mount is different on salv and tofu 2.0, so that maybe a cause as well. sorry for dog shit comparison :3)

[high sphinx]

Yeah but i like it that way

[stone flax]

So they feel more stable than poms, and unless you want to use shorter than 0.16mm on spacebar (for venom), they works just as fine

[kind helm]

raw i have no issue at all when doing the same motion.

[stone flax]

uhhhh

min max who?

[stone flax]

💔

keep bumping actuation on alphas

i wanna know da limit for rebound nephew josh

[glacial wind]

are you on a softer plate too? what you using now for plate?

[kind helm]

i think to get duhuk to consistently have no issue with this kind of motion, 0.3 something to 0.4 is probably necessary

[stone flax]

How hard are you hitting realistically

is this something youll ever do when typing or gaming

[kind helm]

both on alu plate, but tofu 2.0 probably has a softer mount

[stone flax]

non-osu

[high sphinx]

Why cant u use shorter then 0.16 on spacebar with duhyk ?

[kind helm]

i mean you saw the result when typing at that same setting, i can do 121wpm 100%

[stone flax]

Rebound on harsh pressed

[kind helm]

not like a really high speed but just showcase that normal usage it should be fine.

[fluid ravine]

Pochi just got her Duhuks, and she said it has a funky sounding top out, like there's something about it other than the stem rail doing its thing. Im assuming it's the springs, so I'm just wondering if you could do a phone test with the Duhuks with jade pro springs so I could identify the problem by chance

[harsh dove]

I can't reproduce this on venom on the same website

I'm hitting key just like you

[high sphinx]

Aha ty

[calm pulsar]

it's official we can type on duhuks better than poms

[stone flax]

Hahahah

[kind helm]

i am basically trying to slam the key then let go asap

[stone flax]

What plate

What standoffs

oh wait

U said it

[kind helm]

maybe relate to the mount, tofu 2.0 mount quite soft

[stone flax]

hmmmm

[stone flax]

Bouncy or flexy?

That matters

[glacial wind]

that's unfortunate, but anyway I'd assume no one who is aiming to min max low sens stuff is likely going for duhuks anyway, so probably not an issue most would run into

[kind helm]

its alu plate with bowl mount so i think bouncy

[harsh dove]

I mean I'm not against the testing but if it's not something that won't happen in normal use then Im really not bothered, if its only happening in unrealistic extreme cases then its a non-issue

[stone flax]

cam literally said he cant recreate it

u heard it here folks

If ur a real min max gamer buy 90 cent switches

otherwise for literally any other use case duhuks do it better

[glacial wind]

yeah seems like a non issue for average person who'd be getting duhuks

[kind helm]

which case you on

[harsh dove]

Frog Mini with FR4 plate

[glacial wind]

i wonder how much mounting affects things there

[calm pulsar]

I want to fit benom in my lx60

but mx too good😭

[glacial wind]

it's why i always preferred stiffer mounts for gaming, then leave the softer mounts for work/typing

[harsh dove]

Is it? I haven't looked into that case much tbh

Could be a factor

but like Sno said, maybe mounting method has an affect on things

[stone flax]

so

cam

[kind helm]

i can press it down relatively easily.

[harsh dove]

Ima make a video

I have everything on 0.1 RT rn

and no issues

[stone flax]

i am on a frog with fr4 plate, cam says he cant recreate rebound issue on alphas, they have better top and bottom wobble than poms, i can buy 270 duhuks for the price of 70 poms, their lube job isn’t nonexistent….. i think i should buy poms 😊

[glacial wind]

some osu folks were seeing some timing issue with presses on softer builds too, but it was minor enough that issue went away at higher sens settings

[calm pulsar]

aint reading that essay

[stone flax]

i told u the tofu 2.0 was cursed

[stone flax]

tldr poms better

get ready for 5 dollar ttc switch

[kind helm]

you can see it bounce a little bit even on alu plate and 60g bowl

[calm pulsar]

boms

[stone flax]

poms poms poms

[glacial wind]

i wonder if the chinese reviews did their testing stuff and talked about it, i haven't done the bilibili check lately

[kind helm]

hey man i cant get a new froggy so i had to cope this.

[harsh dove]

I accidentally hit the Y and B with my finger lol

[tawdry tree]

report it in Geon’s server so he can get his firmware at the same level as woot

🤷‍♂️

[kind helm]

thats good, it is just my case then maybe

[high sphinx]

U are on stable firmware and josh on beta

[calm pulsar]

I want to do a new build with duhuks in lx60, but I remember venom wasn't compatible
I hope I can do it with the oring config 😦

[harsh dove]

Good point

[stone flax]

Ok so duhuks literally are just better than poms for me 💔

[stone flax]

🤲

Hopefully

[harsh dove]

Yeah I could see this happening

[stone flax]

@kind helm try stable firmware version

[kind helm]

doing that now

[high sphinx]

I have noticed the callibration on the beta seems ti be a bit more precise or worse idk if i remember correctly ofcours

[calm pulsar]

sell bofu 2.0 buy brog leggera

[tawdry tree]

I think the behavior comes from good calibration. Not bad firmware per se but it just can’t account for bounce.

[harsh dove]

Right cause I mean, lets be honest, the switches aren't supposed to bounce lol

[tawdry tree]

Well, other switches aren’t.

[stone flax]

I love bouncy typing feel

[harsh dove]

Raeds are bouncy

lol

[calm pulsar]

they're bouncing back cause we've never been so back

[tawdry tree]

Which understandably is hard to account for as there have been no switches that behaved like this (except for TTC’s which was very minor).

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[high sphinx]

Yeah but its possible that the callibration one the beta is a little more precise then on the stable one if that makes sense but idk

[tawdry tree]

Probably, the beta allows for more sensitivity setting which most likely are the culprit.

I wonder how TTCs are on the beta.

[kind helm]

same issue essentially. (you can also clearly see the pcb rebounce though)

[tawdry tree]

Their bounce is more minimal but still definitely there.

[glacial wind]

i am curious to know if it's tolerances or something else that ttc does to make their switch half the wobble of the others

like whether their whole thing about temperature control does anything or if that's fluff

[harsh dove]

Yeah I'm curious of the temps thing too tbh

[calm pulsar]

putting a raw stem in there will probably solve everything

[kind helm]

also ruin everything

[glacial wind]

for whatever reason their switches is like half the wobble flux of every other switch, so they have to be doing something different

[tawdry tree]

We need switches with a memory foam top out.

That could actually work ngl

😂

No bounce

[calm pulsar]

64gb memory foam

[calm pulsar]

I remembered how some guy here put foam on the bottom of lekkers or some switch

[tawdry tree]

Yeahhh

[calm pulsar]

pillow switch😭

[tawdry tree]

Foam on stem or silicone in the bottom housing

same same

Raeds with foam top out

so close, just needed memory

[harsh dove]

Yeah they're very precise, I imagine its a combination of magnet quality and just their box stem design

[glacial wind]

josh trying to upload entire mkv videos apparently

[harsh dove]

lolol

[calm pulsar]

he's uploading his keyboard so we can try it out personally

[kind helm]

when i dont force the key down(to avoid case rebounce) and just focus on quickly letting go of the key

[harsh dove]

Virtual Keyboard software

[kind helm]

and that is at 0.04, which matches with the result from typing test at 0.04 rt

i personally would say duhuk is fine.

[tawdry tree]

Can’t you use analog monitor with venom?

or was it that other woot program that was compatible with other boards

[fluid ravine]

gonna be spring swapping again

[tawdry tree]

the overlay

[fluid ravine]

geon raw springs into duhuks

gonna be so annoyed

[cyan lark]

I thought you already did that earlier?

[fluid ravine]

nah

[tawdry tree]

whyy?!

[kind helm]

it has value but not a curve

[tawdry tree]

pingless?

[harsh dove]

Haven't tried tbh but I did think about it

[fluid ravine]

aliexpress spring ping :*(

they feel nice

but they dont sound nice

i sadge

[tawdry tree]

are pingless springs better?

[fluid ravine]

might as well

[tawdry tree]

raw’s stock springs were pingy as well

[calm pulsar]

jade pro springs would be nice in there 😦

[fluid ravine]

i mean true..

[tawdry tree]

:/

[fluid ravine]

it wouldve been

[harsh dove]

dunno I'll have some soon

ordered some the other day

[harsh dove]

yeah they are, so are duhuks

[tawdry tree]

I wouldn’t expect duhuk’s and raw’s stock springs to be any different tbh

[fluid ravine]

should i just stick with the ali springs for now and figure it out later

[tawdry tree]

same length, same factory

[harsh dove]

yeah I feel they are same or very similar

[fluid ravine]

raw springs werent bad for me tbh

[tawdry tree]

both shiny

and lubing the 22mm springs didn’t help?

[glacial wind]

i don't think i ever used raw springs without lubing actually lol

[fluid ravine]

lol

[fluid ravine]

ehh

[harsh dove]

I used them for like 3 weeks then lubed lol

[fluid ravine]

you want a sound test of them rn?

[harsh dove]

I feel like I'm sensitive to spring ping , I hate it

[fluid ravine]

idk if my mic can pick it up but ill do max gain

[glacial wind]

i figure if I'm lubing switches i must as well bag lube springs anyway so I've never used any non oiled springs

[kind helm]

even space bar is fine once i redo the calibration. @stone flax so maybe just my dumb ass user error is all

man!

[stone flax]

oh ok

[tawdry tree]

again?

[kind helm]

give me a sec

LOL

[glacial wind]

josh really loves his mkv format

[stone flax]

mkv

[harsh dove]

lolol

[stone flax]

so duhuks are peak unless ur on a china pcb

basically

all i get from this

[harsh dove]

Basically get POMs or Duhuks if you want best stability yeah

[stone flax]

ok duhuks are peaks

thank you

[glacial wind]

is there no sound in your video now or is the press just too soft

[kind helm]

sorry about the calibration error. i didn't take my time to do that because i was excited to try it out.

[kind helm]

no sound

[calm pulsar]

they are just that quiet

compared to poms

[glacial wind]

truly amazing

[stone flax]

ok time to still buy poms

[calm pulsar]

obviously with poms there would be sound in the video

[fluid ravine]

shouldve added 60 drops fr

[kind helm]

everything at 0.1mm even for space. yea basically always recalibrate your board patiently for new switches, kids...

[harsh dove]

Tried Analog Monitor on Venom, don't work

doesn't get detected

[cyan lark]

I dunno how you can type w/ 0.1mm actuation 😓

[glacial wind]

hrm i can't find any tests for jade pro vs duhuk stability ton see which is the most stable bottom out, the chinese didn't test duhuks yet

was curious to see which of the non box stems was the most stable

oh wait aligner or someone did the hm tests before right

[tawdry tree]

☹️

[harsh dove]

Imoshi did a test and said they were more stable than Jade Pros I believe and I also think Aligner did a fluctuation test and they were just behind the Jade Gamings but those are box stem

[tawdry tree]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

HM is bottom only.

[glacial wind]

yeah i don't really worry about comparing them to box stems anyway since they'll never win there just due to stem stuff

[harsh dove]

Yeah

not really a valid comparison

[tawdry tree]

top wobble is fine to compare to box stems

not much they help with there

[calm pulsar]

in this case:

[glacial wind]

oh so duhuk was just below jade pro?

[tawdry tree]

on par with jade pros

around the same mark

[harsh dove]

ah yeah 0.13 vs 0.11

so pretty close within margin of error

[tawdry tree]

jade gamings were actually almost on par with ttc’s

[tropic urchin]

They’re not truly better until they’re >>>>

[tawdry tree]

even accounting for front to back wobble

[glacial wind]

i gotta be honest I only open his messages when I'm bored because it's 50/50 chance it's just him baiting his nonsense elitist stuff lol

[tawdry tree]

KoMs.

[harsh dove]

Like OG KOMs or POM KOM?

[tawdry tree]

OG KoMs

[glacial wind]

it'd be og kom i assume

[harsh dove]

Oh

[tawdry tree]

Well, KoM V2s

[harsh dove]

Oh okay

[glacial wind]

jade gaming were about on par with the kom, but below the pom/rgb mold

[tawdry tree]

but yeah

[harsh dove]

Was gonna say then wouldn't the TTCs do even better

[tawdry tree]

not POMs or RGBs

[glacial wind]

yeah pretty much. The rgb/pom are insanely low flux change

[harsh dove]

Right yeah

[stone flax]

how is it elitist to say more people should buy the 30 something cent switch that has good prelube rather than the 90 cent switch that needs relubing

agenda agenda agenda

[tawdry tree]

still impressive nonetheless, I’d expect a square stem to do better than a rectangular one

[harsh dove]

Yeah the duhuks are pretty impressive tbh

for non box

[glacial wind]

yeah seems like a solid non box stem pick

[calm pulsar]

yeah for the measly non box users they should suffice

alr sorry

[stone flax]

imma say it again i find it so funny u block me and keep talking about me, same way u rather air everything out in a general channel rather than dms... very transparently just trying to make me look bad than actually achieve anything substantial

[tawdry tree]

I really wonder how HE compares to mech just in wobble.

[stone flax]

but go off

[tawdry tree]

Like where we at?

[stone flax]

im an elitist

[tawdry tree]

I’ll gladly be a Duhukian elitist

[calm pulsar]

I have hmx made switches rn, they are just fine on wobble, not POM-like, but on here I don't care about that stuff kinda

[glacial wind]

i believe the term is pom maxxing, get it right

[harsh dove]

POM Maxxing

[kind helm]

relax my friend, have a drink and lay back. doesn't matter either way

[harsh dove]

Duhukian Elitism lol

[calm pulsar]

elitism maxxing

[tawdry tree]

yeah, wobble matters a lot less on mech than on HE but I think I saw some mech switches with crazy little wobble.

I forgot their name though

[high sphinx]

Dont worry guys next month we got 50 new switches we can talk about 😜

[harsh dove]

Next Switch is actually the Mount Tai HE

[high sphinx]

50 new churches

[marsh saffron]

90% of which will be recolors from gateron

[harsh dove]

and I know the next switch after that but I can't say anything

[tawdry tree]

nah, we’ll get the 50 duhuk recolors before we have something actually interesting to talk about :(

[calm pulsar]

do I cancel my duhukian order

[glacial wind]

unfortunate naming for duhuk though. Too easily named the dudu users - they need to work on their zoomer optics better

[harsh dove]

Damn Dudu Maxxing

that's rough

[calm pulsar]

lmaoo

[glacial wind]

yeah dudu maxxing doesn't have the right ring to it

[high sphinx]

Yeah true but well you never know

[harsh dove]

Nah still try them out imo

[stone flax]

im just pointing out he's such an obvious virtue signaller

day one i said if we have beef to has out lets take it to dms

[tawdry tree]

duhuks with ball bearings when

[stone flax]

he said no everytime

[calm pulsar]

yeah I was more joking about chasing the best switch
I will for sure try them out, and also attempt to do a venom gummy oring mount build in LX60

[stone flax]

he makes it clear his only goal is to keep trying to remind everyone im apparently horrible

:3

[tropic urchin]

Careful you might upset the Gen A members in chat 🤣

[harsh dove]

Ah in that case then yes cancel

Mount Tai will be on top

[glacial wind]

is that the actual gen we're up to now?

[calm pulsar]

tai maxxing

[glacial wind]

i lost track at some point of the gen naming

[harsh dove]

Mount Tai Maxxing is nice

[glacial wind]

mt tai were smart. It matches zoomer terminology well

[harsh dove]

[high sphinx]

Are those tai switches any promising ?

[harsh dove]

They have some promise yeah

I have some on the way

[tropic urchin]

Just about

[glacial wind]

oh no. Unfortunate for people in 2025

[harsh dove]

Damn Beta Gen

[high sphinx]

Aha ok those box stem ?

[tropic urchin]

They’re cooked before they even know it

[harsh dove]

Yeah they are

[high sphinx]

Aha seems good already for wobble

[harsh dove]

Yeah should be able to compete with TTCs

we shall see though

They have a massive box

[high sphinx]

Yeah indeed let me know tho i am curious about those now

[harsh dove]

lol

[tawdry tree]

mega box stem

[glacial wind]

hrm the mt tai switches didn't list the +- anywhere

[tawdry tree]

box stem supreme

[harsh dove]

Nah I couldn't find one either

It's gonna be +-100 at top

lol jk

[calm pulsar]

tbf I just sent him a screenshot of your message, so I wouldn't say he was talking abt you out of the blue

also I hope it's obvious im just trying to openly make fun abt either pom or duhuk crowd

idc about pom or duhuks in a big way, I will have both and use whatever sounds better for my taste (which I think will be duhuks)

[glacial wind]

that would be some tragedy

[stone flax]

ya obviously

im just laughing at how often he still mentions someone he's blocked

[tawdry tree]

gotta choose a team pal, can’t play both sides.

😂

[glacial wind]

but it would fit the wuxia world view where some martial arts cultivator cuts down a mountain with his sword. Mt tai will have fallen

[stone flax]

like u cant block someone and then constantly berate them

surely right

ig if ur jed thats fine

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/kenpachi-cut-mountain-size-rock-anime-evil-laugh-bleach-gif-17394603

[glacial wind]

then at some point they'd ascend to the next level of the world, but they were frogs in a well the whole time and the next world masters are all born with that level of power as babies

followed by a tournament arc where the mc beats up all the guys who insult him one by one

[calm pulsar]

it's a love hate relationship at this point

[calm pulsar]

well I seem to be shifting towards MX

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-cat-crunchy-cat-glasses-cat-luna-glasses-cat-gif-12732289841207803174

[glacial wind]

just have one of each

that's what multiple keyboards are for

poms for gaming and duhuk for typing

[calm pulsar]

yeah I do have an HE and an MX now at the table
gotta get a 2nd cable though cause don't want to ruin ports by swapping often

[glacial wind]

or hear me out. You build another computer as well

then you have one computer per keyboard as well

perfect justification

[calm pulsar]

well I did find me a new rabbit hole

I think there are even keyboards for ps2

[glacial wind]

they have those converters nowadays that make those old console games look real nice on tv too

[calm pulsar]

yeah im looking into that rn, want to simply play on my pc monitor and upscale

also want to play games on genuine discs if possible, but there are ways to play off of usb sticks and sd cards

[kind helm]

is there no simulator for ps2 games? why do you want to suffer

[calm pulsar]

there is ofc

[glacial wind]

the retro part is half the fun

when I retire I'm 100% doing this with a nintendo 64 and zelda ocarina of time in gaming room

[calm pulsar]

im just sad I lost my ps2 from childhood, so I want to get it back, also seems fun to mess around with acquiring either used real games or trying to play games using different devices that connect to the console

[glacial wind]

why is josh on bilibili lol

[kind helm]

exposed

oh no

[glacial wind]

i was checking the bilibili reviews

[kind helm]

there is none yet i think

[calm pulsar]

caught in 4k

[harsh dove]

I remember going over to my buddies and he'd be playing that all the time lol

after school

[glacial wind]

dam eyejokers keyboard 2025 video went pretty viral in korea I see. 500k views is big for a korean keyboard video

seems he hasn't put the duhuk into any of his videos yet either so no tests from him there

[calm pulsar]

seems huge for a keyboard video in general even

[kind helm]

maybe relate to the fact that T1 just won master as well. kr val is W

[glacial wind]

nah it's an old one, but i guess it was popular since it was his picks for best 2025 keyboards from all his tested ones so far

t1 just uses all wootings mostly, so i don't think that would have caused anything lol

unless they swapped to pulsar after latest sponsorship

[calm pulsar]

the fact that linux for ps2 exists is hilarious on its own, but look at the bottom row layout on this keyboard

[kind helm]

yo what?!

people ran that like a actual system?!

[harsh dove]

Yes

[kind helm]

i just learned that i am not actually a nerd

yay

[calm pulsar]

I probably won't be able to do that with a slim version, cause it probably needs an HDD

[harsh dove]

More than likely

[calm pulsar]

but some slims can be made to support hdd with mods, as I saw somewhere

[kind helm]

the correct bottom row layout

[calm pulsar]

probably won't bother, but linux on ps2 sounds so cool lol

oh nvm I can just run it via an sd card lol

might do that for funs

[kind helm]

of course i just missed it

[agile wolf]

Launch PS3s also had the ability to run Linux

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OtherOS

[calm pulsar]

interesting stuff

[calm pulsar]

is that connected with a cable?

[kind helm]

tri mode

[calm pulsar]

oh cool

[cyan lark]

Wait till you hear about the Air Force's massive PS3 computer cluster

https://phys.org/news/2010-12-air-playstation-3s-supercomputer.html

[noble mason]

are the poms deep at all

[cyan lark]

Poms are life.

[noble mason]

are they deep though

[cyan lark]

Energy across the frequency spectrum 🤷

Only low frequency? No.

[tropic urchin]

From my experience no

[cyan lark]

There you go. Deep wet taps.

[tidal frigate]

It is for linux for ps2 fat

[cyan lark]

Don't beat

[kind helm]

3 options in one key

[sweet oak]

Next do crunchy tape

[quiet bay]

Finally finished

duhuk core he's with raw he stem

bag lubed springs and lubed stems with super lube 👍

[polar girder]

Damn. So clean.

Well done.

Looks and sounds great.

[marsh saffron]

best sounding cerakey build ive heard for sure

[little glen]

yo your video looks like ur under water, i dont think that is healthy for the keyboard

[lament crane]

Cold (🧊) or Hot (🔥) Take:

AEBoards Raed HE switches are the discrete tactile switches Cherry MX Browns wish it could be - being tactile when typing, while being fast and responsive "linears" when gaming (especially when paired with HE keyboards with analog [controller] output).

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-i-am-underwater-gif-5464745434101247148

[quiet bay]

why is this actually kind of accurate

[tulip rapids]

what stabs do you have?

[quiet bay]

tx plate mounts

[gleaming crow]

Is there anything I could do to make my 80he sound more poppy

I don’t like how it sounds now at all

I’ve tried stock and fr4 with jade pros

Don’t like either

[visual ore]

Not really

It's kinda of the deal when you go with HE

Clacky is the name of the game

Perhaps a different keycap profile might help though

MT3 or SA

[stone flax]

polypropylene plate

[gleaming crow]

What about switches

Should I try raws or ttc magnetos?

[stone flax]

if u want to try new switches go ahead

[tropic urchin]

After trying the mouse out a bit more, I think so far it might be the best mouse I’ve used from a QC quality and enjoyment perspective 😅

[sour flower]

installed the new ttc poms after modding springs and i see wootility showing this, what do

nvm just had to replug it a few more times for some reason

[tropic urchin]

I had that happen trying to swap a switch without unplugging

[kind helm]

replug recalibrates the board for wooting

[sour flower]

yea it just took like 3 or 4 times

400g ttc poms sound btw

the 100g wasd sound so obvious in the mix

but such is life

[kind helm]

400g?

100g?

am i reading that correctly?

[sour flower]

yes

[kind helm]

where did bro find 400g spring?

[sour flower]

custom order

[kind helm]

god damn

[sour flower]

sounds good tho :)

[kind helm]

[tidal frigate]

You must working out your fingers definetly

[sour flower]

It was tiring a bit at first but fine pretty quickly

400g isn't sustainable on wasd tho at least for me, rapid trigger kept getting accidentally triggered, on w mostly

and then strafe spamming just was awful as u can imagine

[tidal frigate]

How it works in gamepad mode

Is it smoother?

[sour flower]

like analog?

[tidal frigate]

Yep

[sour flower]

i havent tried in a while

but on jade pros with 400g its def more like fine tuned if u want it to be

(for trackmania)

[tidal frigate]

Try it on 400g springs on proper racing game

[sour flower]

i think my fingers would explode in actual racing game

[tidal frigate]

Worth try

[sour flower]

what game? been a while since ive played anything racing lol

[tidal frigate]

Propably asseto

[sour flower]

ill try it at some point and let u know

[tidal frigate]

Alr

[sour flower]

hows the sound for u

[tidal frigate]

Well it sounds fine

[lethal temple]

very cool! haven't visited this channel in awhile, but I had to comment when I saw another cerakey user

it sounds similar to mine but higher pitched (until my spacebar stabilizer broke and I switched to a normal spacebar). maybe one day I'll try modding again with all the switch variety out there nowadays

[marsh saffron]

the fact that it got better on pro is what surprises me

ive been saying that my beastx mini is far more solid than any other full shell mouse ive tried

[fluid ravine]

im scared

[kind helm]

kids are just who you are like idk 5 4 3 years ago

[flat cobalt]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/naevies-ec-switches

These look trippy

[carmine cradle]

I like the TTC x wooting POM. But they’re not zero wobble.

[sacred elm]

When you bottom out wobble is very very small, you cant even feel it

[carmine cradle]

It’s smaller yes, but I do feel it.

[sacred elm]

Well its as low as it can be, if it had less wobble there would be friction issues, probably. Unless I really wiggle the switch I dont notice the wobble at all

They shit on all my previous switches

[prime orbit]

This just cope lol

[carmine cradle]

@prime orbit yeah I don’t know what this even means.

[prime orbit]

U

Are

Coping

There is no wobble homie

[carmine cradle]

Ok, thanks

@sacred elm Yeah, I really like them. Big upgrade in every aspect from stock lekker. Also think they made a smart choice increasing the spring weight. Just if someone expects absolute zero wobble bottoming out they won’t get it.

[kind helm]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2391017141 1:07:00 showing the wobble.

[prime orbit]

Nah

No wobble

That like saying ur eyes can see more fps

[high sphinx]

@sacred elm instead of getting a wl neastx pro is a finalmouse not better ?

[sacred elm]

finalmeme

[high sphinx]

How come ?

[sacred elm]

You dont want to trust finalmeme, theyre famous for having shit qc

[high sphinx]

Oh i see ty man then i will order my beast x pro today and hopefully i wont regret and i dont have to pay much import taxes

[sacred elm]

with pro version they improved QC and battery life

[high sphinx]

Ok i see ty

[sacred elm]

Yeah, I love these springs

They feel so good

40/55 20mm is nice

[carmine cradle]

Anyone got a recommendation for what would be the the equivalent switch version of TTC Pom for regular mechanical keyboard? Wanna recommend for a friend which as a regular hot swappable keyboard

[ionic breach]

i think nk has some

but ask in mechkeys

im starting to think that i have to make a gold themed setup

theres just so many gold things available right now

also @kind helm keygem has some extras for the knob if ur interested

[sacred elm]

tf are these specs lmao

[ionic breach]

gt60

[austere creek]

so you cant set your rt to anything above 0.01mm?

[sacred elm]

💀

32000 full key scan

[tawdry tree]

Raedsssssssss’ brother

[tawdry tree]

rather than hope, just calc the import cost and think about if it’s worth. it’s not some random thing 😅

[high sphinx]

Yeah but with geon i did that and it was not the same idk

But its fine

@sacred elm just ordered my beast x pro

[tawdry tree]

how much did u spend?

also what’s the diff between the pro and the 8k version eu has?

[fallen pecan]

do you not have a retailer in your country that carries wlmouse?

[sacred elm]

nice

[high sphinx]

I spended 154 euros

[tawdry tree]

wlmouse but they don’t stock the pro

[tawdry tree]

shipping how much?

[fallen pecan]

the pro is the only model they sell in china atm

[high sphinx]

154 is with shipping included

[tawdry tree]

ah interesting

[high sphinx]

I hope its a good mouse bro

[tawdry tree]

yeah how much is the mouse itself w/o shipping

[high sphinx]

145 dollars and shipping is 9.90 dollars

[sacred elm]

It is a good mouse

[high sphinx]

Yeah i am just a bit scared cause its some chinese thing and like that cheap ass keyboard that i sended that was detected as malware i hope that wont happen

[tawdry tree]

🤣

[sacred elm]

huh

[high sphinx]

yeah i am just little paranoid in such things

[sacred elm]

what was detected as malware

software?

beastx pro has web software

[high sphinx]

wait a sec gonna search it for u

[sacred elm]

also its not some random new brand, beastx was one of the best mouse of 2024

[high sphinx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR4qJ1fr43Y&t=2s

[sacred elm]

😭

[high sphinx]

yeah its just i am always a little scared when i dont know a brand

cause maybe they put something on the dongle u feel me in these days and tim

times they can do a lot

[sacred elm]

💀

[high sphinx]

this is probably still false positive but either way

[sacred elm]

No need to worry about that when youre paying 150$ for a mouse, its not cheap ass ali product

[high sphinx]

yeah that is true but better safe then sorry also it has a lot of reviewers on youtube i dont know if someone here in the discord uses one at this moment tho

but i am always a little paranoid in such things its just a me thingy

[left depot]

https://kprepublic.com/products/gb-moeetech-glitter65-r2-ultra-mechanical-keyboard-kit-aluminum-alloy?variant=45662678286499

[high sphinx]

@sacred elm do you know how the dongle from the beast x pro looks ?

[tawdry tree]

cat no?

[tawdry tree]

the eu versions all have that cyber truck thing

car is cute

and angry

[sacred elm]

pissed off cat

[sweet oak]

This dongle is better imo

[tawdry tree]

that’s real size cat paw. real size cat dongle when?

[sweet oak]

I wish

[tawdry tree]

how is the mouse gonna be bigger than the cat? can’t have that now can we?

wlmouse needs to up their game

[sweet oak]

Waiting for my beast x solid sides tho, should ship this month. Will be my birthday gift to myself if it somehow ships next week

[high sphinx]

wich one of the beast x series is this one ?

[high sphinx]

i liked the big cube but well a cat will do i saw there is also a dongle for 1k only a nano dongle ?

[sweet oak]

The normal sized 8k, just a limited collab version

[high sphinx]

Oh i see ty

U liie it ?

[quasi hinge]

I turned off the light haha

But fantastic mouse, chefs kiss on the clicks and the cut outs are great

Just adjusting from superlight 1

And helps my sweaty palms

[high sphinx]

I also have really sweaty palms

[quasi hinge]

The cutouts help

[high sphinx]

That is really nice

[quasi hinge]

I was gonna wait for the full sides but I took the risk

And they are great so my fingers can ‘lock in’ giving a more stable grip

And web software so no sus stuff

Just hope battery life is good

Got mine yesterday

[high sphinx]

Yeah i wanted solid sides also but someone here said the pro version has better sudes then normal one so i took the risk also

[high sphinx]

And the 1k nano dongle is it just a normal one or also special thingy ?

[quasi hinge]

I wouldnt know, first time ived changed mouse in a long time, back to back modded superlight 1s

[quasi hinge]

You can use the cat for up to 8k or the mini usb dongle for regular

[high sphinx]

Ok i will use cat one and put it to 2k or 4k probably and for charging just plugging usb c in the mouse rught ?

[sacred elm]

yes

[high sphinx]

Alrighty currently using an old logitech g502 wired kinda hyped to try the new one i will probably have to get used to the light weight cause my g502 heavy as fuck

[sacred elm]

💀

isnt g502 like 120g

beastx is 39 💀

[high sphinx]

Idk how much tbh i also ise almost all the weights that come with it haha

[sacred elm]

It will feel so weird at first, because of the weight

[high sphinx]

I feel loke a heavy weight gives it a less cheap type feel and more premium idl i will see when beast x pro gets here

Yeah indeed that will be crazy getting used to

[tropic urchin]

They’re web based for their software so you don’t have to download anything for it if you don’t want to

[quasi hinge]

I even left it at 1k and put this motion setting that @sacred elm suggested to me

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10-0yBoK4hEok99guNj5EscGPruXyRTbT6mgc6MeZuMM/edit?gid=467445853#gid=467445853

[quasi hinge]

Found this a while back

Compares mouse polling and monitor refresh rate

So unless you have high monitor refresh rate, like 360 and above higher polling is minimal

[high sphinx]

Yeah i have 240hz so i will probably use 2k or 4k

[high sphinx]

Yeah its fine i am just scared that the company implements something in the dongle but like i said i am a bit paranoid

[high sphinx]

What is motion sync of i may ask ?

[quasi hinge]

No clue lol

But can only be enabled on 1k

Plus 1k will save battery life

[last oar]

on finalmouse?

or wooting?

this motion thing you guys are talking about

[high sphinx]

Oj only on 1k so not for me then cause i will be using 2k or 4k i am used to playing with a mouse that is wored so if i jave to charge it while i play o dont care

[high sphinx]

Lits of mice have it but we are talking about wl mouse beast x pro

[last oar]

oh my bad didnt know they had the same feature

[high sphinx]

Yeah lots of mice have it now

[last oar]

yeah makes sense

[sacred elm]

https://www.xbitlabs.com/motion-sync/

[quasi hinge]

Interesting

[quasi hinge]

“The only time I would think anybody would benefit from turning off Motion Sync is if you are playing tac-shooters like CS:GO or Valorant which do not rely on consistently tracking your target as much.”

I dont get this

So for FPS, its better off?

[sacred elm]

Personally I dont care about motion sync, I always had it off

It increases latency slightly, like 1ms for more consistent polling

[quasi hinge]

Is this it or different setting

[quasi hinge]

So for fps, better off?

[sacred elm]

different

[stone flax]

mreow

[high sphinx]

Ty i have read that it makes some people aim feel floaty tho

[stone flax]

potential latency penalty in favor of synced polling intervals to sensor data (more consistent updates/less jitter)

[quasi hinge]

As the article said, similar to how gsync/freesink works

[high sphinx]

I gonna try with it on and off and feel what is best for me

[quasi hinge]

Removes tearing at the cost of minimal latency

[little glen]

Finally managed to get a good picture of my artisan caps

[quasi hinge]

And now back to keebs

[high sphinx]

But its something different than the speed mode that u dended then

[little glen]

I think you‘ll really like these caps tbh

[quasi hinge]

I have no clue, all this is new to me

[high sphinx]

Oh

[quasi hinge]

Just got the mouse yesterday

[high sphinx]

U in eu or na ?

[quasi hinge]

They are nice but alas I need shine through

[quasi hinge]

Asia

[little glen]

a fate worse than death

can you really not sacrifice shine through on one or 2 caps

[chilly mural]

Looks nice

[quasi hinge]

I knew the monitor / polling thing but these premium mouse settings are new to me as I had a superlight 1 since forever

[little glen]

thanks

[quasi hinge]

The artisans are really nice too

[little glen]

i think i am satisfied with the 80he for now, just waiting for my duhuks to arrive

[quasi hinge]

Anything space Im

[little glen]

and maybe get a custom plate eventually

[quasi hinge]

If you want a CF plate I may have a spare

I ordered the silver CF plate for a more 🛸 look

[little glen]

nah i need ISO

[quasi hinge]

So will see which looks better

[little glen]

and i want fr4 i think

[quasi hinge]

Ahh okay, then some other person here can claim it

All my squad-mates are on the 60he or 60he+

1 is on the large 2HE or whatever they call the full one

lol auto correct