🔧│keyboard_modding

[untold wigeon]

and module

what size?

[harsh dove]

Medium 60%

[harsh dove]

you could just get a friction fit pad from wooting tbh

[untold wigeon]

pink 35a?

[harsh dove]

Yeah that's fine but if you're using screw in stabs then try getting the small 60% ones, they're thinner

than the medium

[untold wigeon]

i use stock

[stone flax]

so good

[harsh dove]

they don't understand

[untold wigeon]

did u get that with the module when u ordered it or is that a new addon?

[sacred elm]

my bad

[harsh dove]

nah you get it with the Optimum case or buy it separately

it's like $12

[untold wigeon]

and it does the same thing

[fluid ravine]

nah fr

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

lmao we cool we cool

[harsh dove]

Only difference really is that the Friction pad count as a silicone pad, so you won't be able to use foam or nothing for the plate dampening

whereas with regular o ring, you can use foam still or use nothing between the pcb and plate

unless you wanna cut your friction fit pad like TuanV did

[harsh dove]

just an aesthetic thing lol

[untold wigeon]

this is so much headache

should i even bother

im doubting my thoughts

[harsh dove]

Nah just decide on getting a normal o ring or the friction fit pad

You'll achieve the same affect, just have different options

[untold wigeon]

what was the point for getting an oring/frictionpad now again

thock?

[harsh dove]

Just balances out the sound profile overall and makes it more consistent across the board, and helps reduce the dead sound spots you get with standard tray mounting

and basically acts as a gasket so you get a bit of flex with your board

[stone flax]

just get venom

type shi

[harsh dove]

I'm spiritually fighting Calder for tsangan layout as we speak

battle will last thousands of years

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-thousand-year-blood-war-tybw-yamamoto-gif-24179443

[untold wigeon]

he has foam

[harsh dove]

yeah, case foam

not plate foam

aka sandwich pad

[untold wigeon]

oh

[harsh dove]

you cant use foam sandwich pad with friction fit pad is my point basically

whereas you can still use foam sandwich pad with graveshift O ring

that's all I was tryna say

[untold wigeon]

i only use those things thats in the vid

w/o friction pad

[harsh dove]

You currently use silicone sandwich pad?

between plate and pcb?

[untold wigeon]

idk ill guess ill take a look lol

[harsh dove]

if so, then you'll be fine getting the friction fit pad, as it act the same as a silicone sandwich pad, just extended further to that it wraps around the edges of your PCB

but if you wanted gummy mount and still have the ability to use the FOAM sandwich pad, then you would be better off getting something like the Graveshift Oring

[untold wigeon]

looks like this

[fluid ravine]

you should cut out the tape around the usb port

just a lil square around it lol

[untold wigeon]

cba

[harsh dove]

okay thats the foam sandwich pad

[stone flax]

i love that energy

[untold wigeon]

so that i cant use i’d have to chsnge to the silicone one

[harsh dove]

so your options are basically get a small 60% graveshift oring, or get the wooting friction fit pad and remove that foam sandwich pad

[stone flax]

the type of energy that goes from "cba" to "how do i warranty my broken keyboard"

[untold wigeon]

been there done that

[stone flax]

[untold wigeon]

kay thanks

[harsh dove]

Just ask in here if you need any more help or hmu

[untold wigeon]

gotcha

@stone flax @fluid ravine are you happi?

[fluid ravine]

yeth

lmao

[stone flax]

yea

mmmm creamy thock

[untold wigeon]

glad i could make y’all happy

[harsh dove]

and just to clarify, if you're using screw in stabs, you'll want S- Orings, if you're using clip ins or plate mounted stabilizers, then you can get M-Orings,
ORRR, you can just swap out the backspace and spacebar stabs for clip ins or plate mounts and leave the rest as screw ins and still use and M size Oring

[fluid ravine]

now im wondering

[harsh dove]

Friction fit pad, you don't gotta worry about any of that

[untold wigeon]

everything is stock

just switches that aint stock

[fluid ravine]

what if you someone cut out their plate to like how geon does it for his venom plates

for gummy oring mount with screw in stabs

lol

[harsh dove]

Alright then get S-size Oring

for 60%

[untold wigeon]

ik y’all see the beautiful ks-20u’s on the pic i provided

[untold wigeon]

gotcha

i’ll see if they available over here

[harsh dove]

https://keyboardtreehouse.com/products/graveshift-o-ring-small-suits-60 not swe but keyboard treehouse has some

dunno what their shipping would be for you

[stone flax]

its about the pcb lacking cutouts for the recess

just thin out the plate atp to compensate

[untold wigeon]

12$

[harsh dove]

like actually cutting the PCB?

[untold wigeon]

6-27 days😂

[harsh dove]

not bad

prolly closer to 6 days than 27

[untold wigeon]

not really bad no

[fluid ravine]

no no plate

[harsh dove]

Ohh

[polar girder]

lol wtf you have X-ray now?

[untold wigeon]

venom is 250$

crazy

[fluid ravine]

yeah

i've been having it for a lil

[stone flax]

how so

[untold wigeon]

lol wooting has a vid on how to fit the frictionpad😂

[untold wigeon]

is it not?

[stone flax]

nope

all depends

[untold wigeon]

sold out

bro

im literally dumb

look at what i checked at

hol om

first 1

amazon

😂

[stone flax]

?

[untold wigeon]

what are u question marking me for

i thought the one on amazon was the venom case

[tawdry tree]

yeah that’s the case for the venom bro

[stone flax]

yeah thats the case for the venom bro

[untold wigeon]

haha

riiight

[tawdry tree]

venom60 is like $100

[fluid ravine]

https://geon.works/products/venom-60-he

[tawdry tree]

for the pcb and plate

[untold wigeon]

link the case

[tawdry tree]

then case anywhere between $10 and $250

it’s gh60

you can choose whatever gh60 case you want

venom is the PCB not case

[stone flax]

anything gh60 and bakeneko style o-ring and center udb support

[untold wigeon]

ah okay

[fluid ravine]

FR4- $22
Alu- $25
CFRP- $29
Venom PCB- $65
Stab of choice- $10-20
my venom order or "module" kit would cost like $127 with a pcb, two plates, and stabs
And a Wooting module where it comes with a Wooting60he+ PCB, PC plate, and screw in stabs would cost $140

2/3/2025

[stone flax]

venom better

[fluid ravine]

indeed

[kind helm]

subjectively, in case somebody gets mad again

[stone flax]

how mi venom looks rn :3

[fluid ravine]

nah fuck that

OBJECTIVELYYYYYYYY

[fluid ravine]

ooo

[untold wigeon]

looks like something from the 1900’s

dope

[fluid ravine]

black snail?

what color case is that?

silver?

[stone flax]

silver

[fluid ravine]

hailll yeeeee

if only geon can release this frigin leggera >:(

sigh

no rush no rush ig...

[uneven cradle]

Right and add in the cost of assembly and an actual warranty

[stone flax]

a venom for sub100 i take over 80he

100 dollars is just so sexy

[uneven cradle]

You take venom regardless moot point

[harsh dove]

Wooting has better software and warranty

IMO

Venom has better layout options

Aka tsangan

[stone flax]

you take wooting regardless

[uneven cradle]

I have both

[stone flax]

[stone flax]

when wooting tsangan

nay

[harsh dove]

Never

[stone flax]

when wooting hhkb

[harsh dove]

Probably never

[uneven cradle]

Imagine being able to appreciate both things

[harsh dove]

Not possible

Black and white

No grey area

I don’t believe in brand loyalty, nobody cares about you (us)

[fluid ravine]

lol

[harsh dove]

It’s all business

Just humans making money off other humans and the world keeps spinning

[kind helm]

it is nice to have for sure and i dont wanna jinx myself, but how often do we need warranty. 👀

(just yapping, not arguing)

[fluid ravine]

didn't know cannonkeys sell jade pro

[uneven cradle]

More often then I'd like

My macbook came with a screen defect, one of my monitors had 3 dead pixels on arrival my phone hard bricked itself within 6 months

Shit happens

[kind helm]

unlucky

I dont think i have ever used warranty, either things arrive broken and just get a replacement, or me clumsy and fck things up at some point then i just buy new stuff

my monitor had a few dead pixels on like 20 something days of usage, right before amazon's return time

gigabyte btw, apparently not a uncommon issue from them btw, in case anyone thinking about getting their monitor :3

YO WHAT

[fluid ravine]

GIMMME

NEED

SAVE ME TIME

MORE MONEY LESS TIME

[kind helm]

i was just watching some random vid on bilibili

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[kind helm]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807894937803.html?

4 dolla on ali

wasnt able to find it on amazon

[stone flax]

4 dolla dolla

[tawdry tree]

It’s shit

[visual ore]

Seems like a good way to damage your switches tbh

[kind helm]

👀 how come?

i mean the force do be a bit uneven when you try to pull the caps

[tawdry tree]

neither keymove or woque’s is really good but keymove’s is worse

it just drop the keycaps in the center

no grip

with wuque’s it holds the caps properly but it can scratch them as well

rough metal edges on that one

someone should make a plastic one

[kind helm]

yea thats my concern with it

[tawdry tree]

better.

also keymove’s feels cheap as shit

[visual ore]

Time to 3D print one

[tawdry tree]

would be good to try but it needs to be quite this as well

[visual ore]

Although I wonder if a lever/pulley system would work better

[tawdry tree]

not sure if that’s possible/durable enough to pull from

[tawdry tree]

the functionality of woque’s one is great

3 caps at the same time

much better than 1 by 1

faster*

[kind helm]

i thought the fat one is for spacebar

when i saw it earlier on

[tawdry tree]

🤣

can use it for space as well ofc

Wuque’s: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EIBHjfm

[silver nest]

wsg gang

[tropic urchin]

My beastx just arrived into the vipers den of us customs, I need good vibes

[kind helm]

rest in peace?

[chilly mural]

Now you waito!

still waiting for my item to go through custom

😭

[gaunt plume]

[chilly mural]

does the switches let out any rgb at all?

[quasi hinge]

might be a dumb Q, but do you lube these and if so, how?

[ocean anchor]

is fr4 best feeling thockiest sounding board?

[quasi hinge]

Also depends on the switch you use

[quasi hinge]

For instance, 1st is ttc magneto pom and second is geon raw on carbon fiber plate

Many variables, such as case, microphone, swtiches used etc

[sleek forge]

GMK on lights off

[calm pulsar]

damn that would be great with silver fr

[fluid ravine]

nah fr

I NEED MY LEGGERAAAAAAAAAAAAA

oh gmk keycaps sounds brighter than my xrays form what i notice

def will use these, they give off a cleaner clack

i would send a recording but my mom messed up my recording at the end

lol

actually fk it

[ocean anchor]

will jade pro on 80he in zinc alloy sound good on a fr4? @quasi hinge

[fluid ravine]

the difference on 2 manufacturer from making abs keycaps

[gaunt plume]

No

[chilly mural]

Umu, nice to know. Looks like the switches is perfect for venom build afterall

[quasi hinge]

No idea, never tried the pros only the maxs

a lot of people like fr4 here

[sacred elm]

yes

[fluid ravine]

i lowkey shouldve tried fr4 first before my alu

[quasi hinge]

These definitely are not for me then haha

I will stick with the ttc pomegranates

[fluid ravine]

alu has this really fking nice signature sound curve to it which i really love rn, but then once i switched to fr4 for a lil, i didnt like it as much because it sounded a bit dead in comparison (doesn't actually sound dead, it's pretty balanced and soft which i can appreciate)

forever alu ig

[chilly mural]

Imagine, transparent plastic

[quasi hinge]

My natural state

I need rgb lol

I play in the dark for dem oled blacks

[thorn zealot]

Alu top

[fluid ravine]

can;t deny

[gaunt plume]

Only the parts here are lubricated.

[chilly mural]

Oled addiction os real

[quasi hinge]

Its also amazing

[quasi hinge]

What are you lubing?

[chilly mural]

Too poor for oled. Also no need for fast response time because 60hz is all I need

[fluid ravine]

cf is good and all to me, it bright alright but sometime i feel like a liil bit too bright at times depending on the switch

[quasi hinge]

Im using an LG c2 lol

got it on sale

[thorn zealot]

Cf doesn’t make it sound natural

[quasi hinge]

asus rog oled is so overpriced

[fluid ravine]

true, it's like doing treble boosting to your eq kinda

or vocal focused

[quasi hinge]

Here is my CF and ttc POMs sound vs the Raws

[fluid ravine]

fr4 is balanced

so more flat i'd say

[thorn zealot]

Yes

[ocean anchor]

i got a sony inzone m10s and it’s pricy but i can’t go back from oled 😭

[fluid ravine]

pc bass booster 😂

[thorn zealot]

I think alu is flat

[ocean anchor]

wrong message

[fluid ravine]

all g

[thorn zealot]

Fr4 is more scooped

[fluid ravine]

yeah?

oh yeah sure

oh wait right irght

alu is like a moderate sounding plate

[ocean anchor]

would u say alu is thockier then fr4

[thorn zealot]

No

[fluid ravine]

noo

softer plates would be better

ones like PC, POM, and PP

[quasi hinge]

What switches are you gonna use?

[ocean anchor]

jade pro

[thorn zealot]

I need leggera so that I can match with my new caps

Now

[fluid ravine]

same bruh

love my friends so much holy shit

[quasi hinge]

Was gonna say that wooting is releasing their own ttc magneto poms this thurs

[fluid ravine]

them making me change my mind to gmk botanical was the way

[ocean anchor]

will those be better then jade pro

replied to wrong message again

i meant to say are softer plates good for fortnite

[fluid ravine]

😂

[thorn zealot]

Get silver or gray leggera

[fluid ravine]

silver 100%

[thorn zealot]

Idk don’t sleep on gray

[little turret]

got the confirmed stats on the ttc switches they'll offer yet?

[fluid ravine]

grey is too dark imo

i have the optimum case rn

which is grey grey

doesn't look that great with my desert base botanical

it makes it feel "muddy"

[thorn zealot]

Oh u got desert nvm

[gaunt plume]

This lubricant was applied from the beginning. It's tactile and doesn't seem to need any more lubrication.

[quasi hinge]

I play a lot of FPS, I got carbon fiber as it is the most firm and I got the TTC POMs because they are IMO the best gaming switches out there

[quasi hinge]

Cheers, thanks

[fluid ravine]

usually it's recommended to use stiffer plates for HE board for the best stability without actuation issues

[ocean anchor]

oh

[fluid ravine]

but you can still get away with softer plates without an issue

sorry i hit enter early on accident

[ocean anchor]

what about stabilizers

[fluid ravine]

what board do you have?

stock stabs on 60he+ and 80he are fine

[ocean anchor]

getting 8he

oh

[thorn zealot]

I need that silver case for these caps

[fluid ravine]

just give them a proper lubing and they will sound great

[fluid ravine]

i can already envision it

[ocean anchor]

idk how to lube them but i will figure it out when i get it

[sacred elm]

theyre the same, just recolor and 5g heavier spring

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

https://youtu.be/vxHb6CJc9V8?si=kx7D7oh5IXBSQfv9

save this video

if you can't find it, go to #🪛│modding_faq

[quasi hinge]

No price yet I assume?

[ocean anchor]

will the white zinc case come back out by april

[sacred elm]

Apparently less than 80$

for 90pc

[ocean anchor]

is the rgb on the switches you recommended bad @quasi hinge

[little turret]

thank u!

[quasi hinge]

Personally Id go for the TTC POMS then if I didnt have

[chilly mural]

Hopefully it got that straight to keyboard price as individual switches.

[quasi hinge]

Not bad at all

[kind helm]

its balanced on friction mount, but it sounds worse on softer mounts

[sacred elm]

wdym

[ocean anchor]

i’m getting pudding keycaps so i want good rgb

[quasi hinge]

This is at 40/50% brightness

[fluid ravine]

really?

alright thanks for the input..

[kind helm]

to me, yes

[fluid ravine]

ah mk

[quasi hinge]

I would still buy the pomegranates over the wooting ones for that price

[sacred elm]

why

[fluid ravine]

well, we'll see with gummy mount

[kind helm]

and its like you said, especially after trying alu

xD

[quasi hinge]

Lower force

[sacred elm]

yikes

[ocean anchor]

would jade pros have better rgb

[quasi hinge]

Someone here knows, never used them, previously I was on Raws

[quasi hinge]

Also shipping

depends where you live too

[sacred elm]

its 5$ shipping for me

[quasi hinge]

Im sure either way both will be good

[little turret]

what caps are those? or where do y'all like to browse for caps?

[ocean anchor]

is fr4 to soft for gaming or is it a good middle ground for sound + gaming

[little turret]

tyty kang

[thorn zealot]

iv kanketsu

[sacred elm]

no its not soft

[kind helm]

nothing is really soft for HE, because you have to screw the plate to the pcb.

[ocean anchor]

oh i thought it was a softer plate that’s what someone said

[sacred elm]

its balanced plate

[ocean anchor]

so it will be fine for fortnite?

[sacred elm]

not soft not stiff

fortinite

[fluid ravine]

What we're saying is that, no matter how soft or stiff the plate is, in the end results, it will still be stiff as the plates are screwed together with the pcb to give stability for the switches to not have actuation issues with the pcb.

[ocean anchor]

oh that makes more sense. sorry i’m jus new to this 😭

[fluid ravine]

Not a problem

Here to answer and explain to any questions and concerns

[quasi hinge]

I definitely noticed a big difference on the 80HE going from stock to CF

Felt like the alumaze, super solid

[fluid ravine]

Oh 100% here

[ocean anchor]

do yk if imd keycaps are good in getting glorious aura v3 for the main keycaps then planning on getting artisan keycaps for esc and arrow keys but i want these keycaps for the bottom row of keys and up on outer layer of each side if that makes sense https://www.xvxchannel.com/en-ca/products/xvx-topographic-new-version-pattern-shine-through-oem-profile-imd-tech-keycap-set?variant=47074108899565

[fluid ravine]

The sound frequency range from PC and CF is pretty huge if you ask me

[quasi hinge]

Not a huge sound guy but 100%

[ocean anchor]

performance difference?

[kind helm]

close to 0

[quasi hinge]

Mine is built around gaming not sound

[fluid ravine]

Just sohnd

[ocean anchor]

oh

but are imd keycaps durable

[quasi hinge]

I couldnt say because I never tried fr4 only CF

but likely zero?

I just know the CF is very very firm, which keeps the input stable for gaming

I dont like any 'bounce'

[sacred elm]

bounce is poop

[ocean anchor]

?

[sacred elm]

fr4 is nice

[quasi hinge]

Think of it as flex

[sacred elm]

not bouncy

[fluid ravine]

Another thing is that although the 80he has a "gasket mount" the pad in between fills the gap between the pcb and plate which provides stability as well

[fluid ravine]

I like my bounce 😔

I don't like flex

[calm pulsar]

brother is about to take off the earth with this one

[quasi hinge]

One man's trash is another man's treasure and vice versa

[ocean anchor]

and zinc>pcb ?

[fluid ravine]

So fucking real

My trash, thock, another's man treasure, thock

[quasi hinge]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[fluid ravine]

Zinc is a material, and for 80he, it's a type of case material

[quasi hinge]

Passing Jupiter already

[ocean anchor]

yea

but is that the consensus ?

[calm pulsar]

thats nice

[fluid ravine]

I don't understand

[ocean anchor]

is zinc better then pcb

[fluid ravine]

Pcb is printed circuit board

[ocean anchor]

oh the other material

[quasi hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-dark-darkness-batman-dark-knight-gif-18217991

[fluid ravine]

That's whats used to make a wooting work lol

[sacred elm]

If you can afford get zinc or gt80 case, if you cant afford then PCR is fine too.

[fluid ravine]

Pc?

Wait wut

OH

PCR

😭

[ocean anchor]

yea

[fluid ravine]

What shafie said

[ocean anchor]

yea i got the money

imma sell my old switch

[fluid ravine]

Then yeah if you can afford it then go for the zinc alloys or gt80

[sacred elm]

I would go for GT80 instead of zinc, but both are fine i guess

[fluid ravine]

This

[ocean anchor]

wtf is gt80

is that new

[fluid ravine]

I would go with gt80 personally

[fluid ravine]

Basically

It's a 3rd party case for the 80he

[sacred elm]

Third party case made by kbdfans

[ocean anchor]

do they come in white

[sacred elm]

with a lot of color options

[fluid ravine]

Take a look

[sacred elm]

Yes

[quasi hinge]

brother needs a link

[ocean anchor]

fs

[fluid ravine]

I'm on phone lul

[sacred elm]

https://kbdfans.com/products/gt-80-case?srsltid=AfmBOoomMi-qqu7nvTvdHUeNMG1MDv-2f2S-k6_QjEhPYLbPw-755Tnl

[fluid ravine]

Just shut off my pc

[quasi hinge]

Prepare to use it all

[ocean anchor]

i got plenty dw

[fluid ravine]

Thank the Lord I got friends that can afford my shit and can deal with my shit

[sacred elm]

Yea you might aswell go all in and get ttc poms too

[quasi hinge]

https://milktooth.com/products/switches/pom-magneto

[fluid ravine]

Aint no way my 16 y/o bum ass can afford all of this

[sacred elm]

Wooting poms

[quasi hinge]

100% go all in

[fluid ravine]

Yessirrr

This Thursday right?

[sacred elm]

Yea

[ocean anchor]

i’m gonna sell my 4070ti and get a new case and white 5080 too when those go down in price

so i will have all white setup

[quasi hinge]

keep your 4070 ti

[calm pulsar]

dudes getting robbed in public

[ocean anchor]

im chillin on money bru

[fluid ravine]

Hell fuck bro really goin all out

[sacred elm]

Is this 99$ for 90pc or im trippin

[ocean anchor]

i’m gonna do running start online next year anyway so i can get in college and do what i want in life asap so im gonna be at my setup a lot

[quasi hinge]

yes

[sacred elm]

Yea ask milktooth what theyre smoking

[fluid ravine]

The fuck

[quasi hinge]

but free shipping

[ocean anchor]

even tho college useless 😭

[chilly socket]

💀

[ocean anchor]

it is

[quasi hinge]

The dankest of dank, the greatest

[ocean anchor]

why would i learn buisness from someone who don’t own a business

but the pom magneto don’t affect rgb color?

[quasi hinge]

Not really

they have an rgb version

[sacred elm]

rgb version isnt as smooth and clean sounding

[ocean anchor]

oh

[calm pulsar]

it does a lil bit in my experience

[quasi hinge]

https://milktooth.com/products/switches/rgb-magneto

POM sounds nicer though

[sacred elm]

Wooting version will have better rgb btw

not better than RGB version tho

[ocean anchor]

what’s the best sounding plus performing switch with best rgb budget is non existent unless it’s sum crazy

[sacred elm]

ttc poms have superior stability

almost no wobble

[calm pulsar]

its white on led but purple outside lol

[sacred elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1198266691881279550/1326790929335713832/IMG_5586.jpg?ex=67b42058&is=67b2ced8&hm=894f456bc42c2451a43830c5bd0c7d2d66bc3e45d563232cc1fa344ccc5e3c5f&

Outside of diffuser current ttc poms hide a lot of rgb

[ocean anchor]

oh

[sacred elm]

wootings version will have way better rgb

because of white housing

[ocean anchor]

white my fav color so i will have white rgb on

and on my higround summit 65 the white rgb is light blue

[sacred elm]

on 80he its pink, you have to manually change it, for example 200 250 250

it will be closer to white

[ocean anchor]

wdym

like the rgb doesn’t show white

[sacred elm]

if you set it to white, its slightly pink. you have to manually change rgb values

[ocean anchor]

oh

[stark osprey]

Oh shit is that yours?

[sacred elm]

no, its sno's 80he

[ocean anchor]

250$ keyboard and they can’t get a color right

[stark osprey]

Ah ok, I know him and I had same setup, thought there was a third

[ocean anchor]

we can’t get a white light in the big 25

[sacred elm]

Thats fire

[ocean anchor]

so i’m hearing i should get jade pros

[quasi hinge]

Niiiiceeee

[glacial wind]

lol i was looking at that photo thinking you got those keycaps as well

then i realized it's me

[sacred elm]

Jade pros affect rgb

[ocean anchor]

what ones are best performing best sounding best rgb then?

[quasi hinge]

Just wait for wooting poms

fits your color

[ocean anchor]

alright

[calm pulsar]

I will check out ttc rgb as well and do a sound test

[ocean anchor]

and i know stock stabes are “fine” but are there BETTER ones

[kind helm]

oh no, hooked on ttc now

[ocean anchor]

or are lubed stocks the best there are

[sacred elm]

I heard they are banning people without poms, so yall have 4 days to get them

[quasi hinge]

One other thing is that the TTC poms are under lubed

[ocean anchor]

no the stabilizers

[quasi hinge]

Wooting's offering may likely have better lubed ones

[ocean anchor]

oh

i thought ttc poms were switches

[quasi hinge]

im talking switches

sry

[sacred elm]

I dont think so

[quasi hinge]

Conversion is not easy haha

but worth it

[glacial wind]

ask not what ttc poms can do for you, ask what you can do for ttc poms

[quasi hinge]

👆

[fluid ravine]

There are better options out there like swagkey knights v3, typeplus yikb for screw ins. "Better" as in easier to tune btw

[ocean anchor]

what does tune mean

i’m retarded

[fluid ravine]

But yeah again, if you give them a proper lubing job then they will sound just as great

[fluid ravine]

To tune means like adjust to make it better, so for keyboard stabilizers instance, we add lube in them to make them not rattle or tick in order to reduce the unwanted sounds.

[ocean anchor]

okay so other stabes aren’t worth it

[sacred elm]

Stock is fine, you will most likely need to lube them

[fluid ravine]

Other stabs are fine, I just gave you like 2 examples of like "good stabilizers" that don't require that much effort to tune

[ocean anchor]

ok

[fluid ravine]

So like for your sake, the "better" the stabs are, the easier and less effort it takes to tune

[ocean anchor]

but will they still need lube no matter what

[fluid ravine]

But at the end of the day, you'll still have to lube them

[fluid ravine]

Yes yes

[ocean anchor]

can you link me good keyboard lube

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

Krytox 205g0

What region are you in?

[ocean anchor]

i go between toronto and seattle

in toronto rn

[fluid ravine]

https://divinikey.com/products/205-grade-0-switch-lubricant?srsltid=AfmBOorDDYELy_5VMQh-Z_v4lFYRqQ8znGmvT3qVHe0UbVn7wvouNw9E

https://omnitype.com/products/lube-pen?srsltid=AfmBOorRKHxTzLuQ3Vhbnsxwh2Gg0oWcsuttdo4W0gDrgtiK9GUoSv6n

[ocean anchor]

alr thx

[fluid ravine]

https://kineticlabs.com/lube/krytox/205-grade-0

There

[fluid ravine]

(☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞ ⁿᵒ ᵖʳᵒᵇˡᵉᵐ

[ocean anchor]

so will this build be good: the gt80 case, the new wooting switches when they come out, fr4 plate glorious aura v3 keycaps, and lubed stock stabilizers?

[quasi hinge]

wooting poms then yes

[harsh dove]

I was just yapping too don’t worry

[ocean anchor]

yea if those are the good rgb white ones yall talking ab

cam can you tell the elites to give me a keyboard

[harsh dove]

Yeah sure hold on

https://tenor.com/view/fake-call-dialing-phone-call-pretend-dial-gif-1662393080966393756

[ocean anchor]

thanks one of the good Draco reptillians

[quasi hinge]

loooool

[sacred elm]

Cam, before sleep I have very important question

Did you swap raeds

[ocean anchor]

wait what’s a daughter board

[harsh dove]

Nah they still in the 80

[harsh dove]

A secondary PCB for the usb port

[kind helm]

fckin scared these days

[sacred elm]

You dont need that, if youre ordering 80he module+plastic case

[harsh dove]

Attached via a jst cable

[sacred elm]

daughterboard comes with the plastic case

[ocean anchor]

i can’t get just the module alone right

[sacred elm]

You can

[harsh dove]

You can

Then buy a case separately

[sacred elm]

Go in cart and remove case

but then youll need to add daughterboard to your gt80 order

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Which is like $6

Make sure you click the actual daughterboard image too so it highlights

[ocean anchor]

oh

thx

[harsh dove]

Np

[ocean anchor]

are the gold accents on the gt80 changeable if you buy these?

[sacred elm]

yes

[ocean anchor]

are the wooting or glorious coiled cables better

[harsh dove]

Haven’t tried glorious personally but the Wooting cables are good

[sacred elm]

Silver Gt80

[ocean anchor]

also are these hard or am i trim

[sacred elm]

what are you watching bro

[ocean anchor]

plaqueboymax

wskt will yhe gt80 be out of stock fast

[harsh dove]

Why you ask?

[harsh dove]

This is the 2nd batch so last chance to order probably

[ocean anchor]

ever?

[harsh dove]

Don’t think they making anymore

[ocean anchor]

wtf im snatching ts

[harsh dove]

They working on another case rn

[ocean anchor]

will it be better?

[harsh dove]

Idk

[ocean anchor]

u think i should get it?

i get 400$ for grades so i will have more money by then anyway so ig i will

and i have 4 quarters so i can do it and just take money out of next quarters grades

[harsh dove]

Yeah if you really want it

[quasi hinge]

Any clues

[sacred elm]

Just yapping

[harsh dove]

if you want a premium heavy case your best options rn are the wooting zinc, gt80 and the bone80

[quasi hinge]

bone lol

[ocean anchor]

what’s the best one

[harsh dove]

Oh i do that too

[harsh dove]

Zinc or GT80 imo

[ocean anchor]

gt80 over zinc?

[harsh dove]

Depends

I think Zinc might sound better but GT80 looks better

[calm pulsar]

just look at them and see what you prefer visually

[sacred elm]

also I dont think kbdfans is going to discontinue gt80

prob after 2nd batch there will be third

[harsh dove]

yeah if the demand keeps up then they might

I just know they working on other cases so not sure if they'll just focus on those and discont. the gt80

[quasi hinge]

Consider the wait time also

[sacred elm]

theyre working on holy80

[quasi hinge]

gt80 is released when

[harsh dove]

may

for 2nd batch

can order now tho

[calm pulsar]

https://kbdfans.com/products/naevies-ec-switches

thought these were HE for a moment lol

[harsh dove]

that and I think they working on another 80he case

more premium than gt80

but don't quote me on it

[chilly mural]

Close enough

[sacred elm]

Yea, but it will be very expensive probably

[harsh dove]

yeah

[ocean anchor]

my bday in april so that’s when imma get money for it so should i wait?

[harsh dove]

not $119

lol

GT80 is very affordable

for what it is

[chilly mural]

There's going to be like 3 80he case lmao

[harsh dove]

the more the better

60he had so many options

[sacred elm]

just make tofu80

[harsh dove]

That's part of why the 60he so appealing is how customizable it was for people

[chilly mural]

Prop not as much as regular tkl but it'll do

[harsh dove]

esp new people to the hobby

[harsh dove]

yeah 80he has unique layout so

[harsh dove]

no

I don't even want holy80 but I know some people really like that so

[ocean anchor]

how much do yall think holy 80 or wtv will be

[chilly mural]

Still impressed tho, 5+ different case for 1 board

[harsh dove]

similar price

[sacred elm]

I dont like holy case

[harsh dove]

Yeah I'm sure we'll see more too

[ocean anchor]

wait yall trollin ppl like ts

[sacred elm]

what

[ocean anchor]

what’s the appeal

[harsh dove]

yes

[sacred elm]

yea im sorry but that case is a scam

120$ for nothing

[ionic breach]

justice for holy

[harsh dove]

120 for them to remove material from your case

[chilly mural]

Looks cool

[harsh dove]

or 120 for a full solid case

[ocean anchor]

jus looks like sum a guy who wanna be different would get

[harsh dove]

basically paying for the design

[calm pulsar]

one of the ugliest aesthetics imaginable

[sacred elm]

[ocean anchor]

eww looks like cheese

[harsh dove]

They just took a regular Tofu and cut holes in it

[calm pulsar]

the holes being round is so bad imo xd

[harsh dove]

basically

[ocean anchor]

prolly sounds worse right

[harsh dove]

Yes

dont buy that expecting good sound

thats purely for visuals

[sacred elm]

Yea and made it more expensive 😃 👍

[harsh dove]

yeah man, cutting that metal out is hard work

[quasi hinge]

feature not a bug lol

[harsh dove]

These patina tofu60s are sick

[sacred elm]

[harsh dove]

I like em lol

[ocean anchor]

how much worse does gt80 sound then zinc

[calm pulsar]

the blue one is nice kinda

[harsh dove]

not worse, just higher pitched

zinc is deeper

[harsh dove]

I kinda like all of em but yeah mainly the blue and the bottom one called Broken Blade

[sacred elm]

blue is cool, others meh (imo)

[ocean anchor]

if i do fr4 will i still sound deep i have a butcher block desk too

[quasi hinge]

but also $$$

[calm pulsar]

the yellow one is like toxic water from half life 2

[harsh dove]

yeah $188

not terrible but

[quasi hinge]

"Look ma, I just peed on the ground!"

[harsh dove]

forreal lol

[calm pulsar]

frog leggera for $69 and gummy mount

[sacred elm]

Forget deep sound if you are getting ttc poms btw, you might aswell just stay with stock pc plate

[harsh dove]

fr4 is kinda in the middle of everything

[ocean anchor]

ttc poms high pitched?

[calm pulsar]

I like fr4 cause its dense but also one of the softest dense sounding plates

[quasi hinge]

Top one looks like it was forged from a geode from the woman selling healing rocks and crystals

bottom is best imo

[sacred elm]

vid from varedis

ttc pom, fr4 plate, zinc 80he

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984799440072220692/1339645045367640117/IMG_4542.mov?ex=67b4166c&is=67b2c4ec&hm=60d8c866b809e8db5cec6fcaba82aa4f1bda7b2f0cf4ae95062c771c9c72cefc&

[quasi hinge]

but I had the alumaze already

[harsh dove]

Yeah I like the top one and the bottom one, bottom is called Broken Blade which I like the sound of

[ocean anchor]

so the wooting ones will sound the same

[harsh dove]

they also got this new Moon one

would be good with Cosmos

[ocean anchor]

lowk hard

[untold wigeon]

horrible

[sacred elm]

Its the same switch

[sacred elm]

NO

[calm pulsar]

horrible how

[quasi hinge]

I almost got this for my buddy instead of the burgundy, looks nice

[sacred elm]

gunna is thock enjoyer

[untold wigeon]

the sound

[ocean anchor]

white and blue fye but i still want pudding, wish glorious made blue pudding

[kind helm]

i cant be the only one who thinks this is fugly

[sacred elm]

not sure hows that horrible, unless youre trolling

[kind helm]

the patina ones fuck though

[harsh dove]

I don't think its bad, would be nice with GMK Cosmos I think

[sacred elm]

that looks like sponge

[ionic breach]

horrible ong

fk fr4

[harsh dove]

yeah I kinda want one lol

[ionic breach]

joking

[ocean anchor]

what’s the deepest sounding board or thockiest

[calm pulsar]

I was ready to ban you

[thorn zealot]

Not he

[calm pulsar]

[ocean anchor]

plate i meant

fr4 i thought was thocku

[quasi hinge]

also matters the combination of plate and switch

[sacred elm]

forget thock

[ocean anchor]

are there any other good performing good rgb thocky sounding switches

[sacred elm]

no

[kind helm]

looks like its corroded or like infected

[quasi hinge]

ill post again lol

[quasi hinge]

ttc pom vs raw on CF

[ocean anchor]

is raw good

[quasi hinge]

its good but ttc pom is the best (imo)

[ocean anchor]

bru i’m torn

[quasi hinge]

night and day diff

[sacred elm]

Very based opinion

[harsh dove]

hmmmm

[thorn zealot]

It’s ok to be wrong

I’m playin but also not

[untold wigeon]

its okay guys

[quasi hinge]

I feel like the right one is more flexible on design options

[untold wigeon]

y’all wrong as usual

[kind helm]

the only thing i "dislike" about it is like you gotta have a nice set of caps for it to match well

[untold wigeon]

you’ll learn soon

[harsh dove]

very much so

but I had stuff that'll match the blue one as well

even a custom cable

that has patina

[untold wigeon]

damn i got several people typing

[ocean anchor]

if i’m going with the ttm pom switch what would the best plate be

[thorn zealot]

So who’s gon tell em

[untold wigeon]

here we go!

[ionic breach]

blue is better imo

[quasi hinge]

follow your heart

[calm pulsar]

everyone who's chasing "thock" doesnt even know what it is and bases their opinion on edited YT videos and Hipyo

[harsh dove]

my heart leans more towards the Broken Blade lol

[sacred elm]

Hipyo my goat

[harsh dove]

also cause the name is cool

[sacred elm]

jk

[quasi hinge]

Then you know your destiny

[harsh dove]

even tho no one cares about the name of my case

I do

which is all that matters

[untold wigeon]

glad you know mister! teach us what thock is

[sacred elm]

TOKY

think

thonk

[thorn zealot]

Bad

[kind helm]

"salvation" "frog" "tofu", i think salvation wins

[calm pulsar]

that's the thing, it's a buzzword

[harsh dove]

what I think is cool about these patina cases tho is how heavy they are without a weight

since they are bronze ware

[ocean anchor]

what plate do i go with then if i got ttm

[harsh dove]

they are 2.5kg without a weight

[quasi hinge]

OH that is right!

forgot they were bronze

[harsh dove]

yeah heavy af

[sacred elm]

Just use stock pc plate

no need to swap

[quasi hinge]

get dat heavi boi

[harsh dove]

and I have a weight already from my white tofu so wouldn't need to buy another

[ocean anchor]

so no way to make it deeper at all if i go with ttm

[sacred elm]

no

[ocean anchor]

will tape mods or wtv

or foam

[harsh dove]

damn and there's only 8 left of the Broken Blades

doubt they'll make more of these

[kind helm]

really?! whats the price on those?

[ionic breach]

the fomo is hitting

[harsh dove]

$188

without weight

[kind helm]

that is not bad

[harsh dove]

fomo so good

[harsh dove]

2.5kg without weight too

[ionic breach]

how does bronze sound without weight?

it should be not bad I think

[harsh dove]

heavier than my salvation without a weight

[ocean anchor]

will solid wood butcher block make it deeper @sacred elm

[kind helm]

that is like peak friction mount case then

[kind helm]

isnt salvation with weight is still 1. something kg

[harsh dove]

not sure tbh but I think it'd be good

[ionic breach]

ye

[harsh dove]

its just under 2kg

like 1.8 or sumn

can't recall

[sacred elm]

give up

[ocean anchor]

bru there gotta be a way 😭

[sacred elm]

whos chasing thock just give up

[kind helm]

man now i want to try, but imma wait for the heavy leggera

[harsh dove]

heavy legg?

[calm pulsar]

just get your keyboard, don't stress over made up things lmao
once you get your hands on it, you will see what you'd like to change in it

[harsh dove]

thought those were light?

and didn't have a weight

[ionic breach]

it's just kinda hard to have deep sounding he rn

[kind helm]

pesante is heavy

[harsh dove]

If you want Thock, get Raeds

[ionic breach]

most thock for he is just quiet or muffled

[harsh dove]

ah

[ionic breach]

or just muddy sounding to imitate deep sounds

[harsh dove]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message <-- Thock

[calm pulsar]

leggera means light
pesante means heavy, and pesante is like 3 kg or something lol

[ocean anchor]

and no plate ? or carbon plate

[harsh dove]

forgot about the pesante tbh

[ionic breach]

carbon is very bright and not deep

[harsh dove]

only knew of leggara

[kind helm]

board swapping will be my new workout if i get it

xD

[calm pulsar]

yeah its also the one that has a higher angle and combines both gummy and tray mount in 1

[harsh dove]

AH okay

[ocean anchor]

but a fr4 won’t make it deeper?

[harsh dove]

right cause I knew there was Legg T and G

[calm pulsar]

yeah leggera on other hand has 2 variants

[ionic breach]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399 there's a general ranking here

[kind helm]

now i see why its heavy, thing is made with brass, i didnt even notice the material marked on the image

[harsh dove]

yeah lol

[calm pulsar]

the whole case?

[harsh dove]

which makes me want it more

[kind helm]

reading is hard (talking about myself here chill everyone)

[harsh dove]

cause I was curious about the weight

[calm pulsar]

damn haha

[harsh dove]

pesante be nice if I get a venom 60

[calm pulsar]

a keyboard case and a heavy melee weapon at the same time

[ocean anchor]

so maybe alu?

it says fr4 for office

[calm pulsar]

the stock pc plate would be the quietest if that's what you're looking for

[ocean anchor]

i want deepest and best for fn

[sacred elm]

[calm pulsar]

yeah you have no idea how it all sounds irl but you are going too in depth into it

just get your board first lol

[ionic breach]

no modding will do anything game performance wise

deepest I'd just stick with stock

[ocean anchor]

alr

[ionic breach]

I recommend you trying out what u have first

[harsh dove]

Deepest is Raeds HE

lol

[ocean anchor]

are those good tho

[calm pulsar]

they are tactile a bit

[ocean anchor]

what’s that

[harsh dove]

they have rubber dome like Topre

[sacred elm]

oh no

[harsh dove]

first Topre HE Switches

[ocean anchor]

ik linear and tactile but

[ionic breach]

you know how membrane keyboards feel?

[ocean anchor]

idk what they are

yea

[ionic breach]

is like that but tall

[kind helm]

i think pc as the default go to for newer people is good. hard to sound good, hard to sound bad, usually easy to buy.

[ocean anchor]

yea ik like apple magic keyboards

[ocean anchor]

what but it’s true the wooting ttc will be worse then normal version

[ionic breach]

that a question?

ngl can't tell

[ocean anchor]

yea

[glacial wind]

why would it be worse?

[ocean anchor]

someone said it would be

[ionic breach]

its heavier springs

[glacial wind]

they said different, not worse

[ionic breach]

but that's preference

[glacial wind]

it's just 48/50g springs vs 55g springs

[ionic breach]

both are lower than the most common anyways

[ocean anchor]

oh

50 is the sweeet spot tho right

[glacial wind]

not really

it's all preference

[ocean anchor]

oh

[glacial wind]

some people like 40 some 50 some 60 some 80. It's whatever you like

[ocean anchor]

i think i got my final build now

thx

[kind helm]

you think in terms of the quality of build, like wobble and magnetic force would be the same as the regular ttc pom?

[ocean anchor]

does that mean they will be worse

[kind helm]

if they can bring down the price and/ or have good pre lube then it would be a huge W for wooting

[ocean anchor]

but if i’m willing to lube them

they will be basically the same

[kind helm]

no i do not know what i am talking about. do not quote me at all. my statements are the least trustworthy thing on earth.

[calm pulsar]

looks like the only change is 5g of spring weight

[ocean anchor]

will they sell out quickly

[kind helm]

did they mention something about it?

[calm pulsar]

someone said they wanted them to be closer to lekker 60s in terms of weight

[sacred elm]

Literally same switch

different color

[ocean anchor]

but better rgb?

[steel ibex]

Is it a good idea to order some stuff off temu, I was just wanting some switch foam

[ocean anchor]

NO

[sacred elm]

Better rgb than current poms yes

[ocean anchor]

why is that a question

temu gonna infect ur foam with covid

[quasi hinge]

Isnt it ~7?

~48 vs ~55

[calm pulsar]

lol I have no idea

they are smooth af even 80g spring will feel light in there

[quasi hinge]

Although someone did say that milk tooth sometimes posts random #s lol

[quasi hinge]

Im sure og poms or wooting poms will be just right

[calm pulsar]

for sure

[steel ibex]

Cuz I wanna find out if temu is as bad as people say lmao

[quasi hinge]

but I like that 50# so im biased lol

[steel ibex]

I can spare 20$

[quasi hinge]

Never tried it lol

[ocean anchor]

aliexpress instead

just get it from store with good reviews

[steel ibex]

Welp someone’s gotta find out yk

[harsh dove]

Yeah, I've had to send them emails to correct things before

[quasi hinge]

That is where I got my CF plate

[calm pulsar]

aliexpress probably has more stuff and has better rep I would say

[steel ibex]

Yeha but like

I’m broke

[ocean anchor]

bru aliexpress is cheap too

[steel ibex]

But I’m ok with burning 20$ to see the quality

[glacial wind]

no reason the build should have changed. They said they just changed the spring and color basically

[calm pulsar]

not like aliexpress is more expensive xxd

[steel ibex]

Ngl I wanted some irl Val skins as well I have good financial decisions

[ocean anchor]

ofc val

all makes sense now

[quasi hinge]

Report back your findings

[steel ibex]

Yessir

[calm pulsar]

people were making up some things like switch diffuser will not be separate, or they will be lubed

[steel ibex]

Hear me out tho yoru butterfly knife is a valid purchase

[glacial wind]

the 48 number is from milktooth which is why we don't know if it's true or not btw

[harsh dove]

Did I just see Val skins and good financial decisions in the same sentence?

[glacial wind]

milktooth has like 50% rate of messing up their spec lists

[steel ibex]

The findings probably gonna be I lost 20$

[sacred elm]

I think milktooth made up that number, you literally cant find bottom out force of ttc switches anywhere

[harsh dove]

wouldn't be the first time

[ocean anchor]

this should tell you enough

[harsh dove]

like I said, I've corrected them before

[glacial wind]

yeah milktooth does that stuff a lot. Like in the same list they have the spring length wrong as well

[ocean anchor]

@steel ibex try sniping a few meme coins instead with that $20

[glacial wind]

they say 20mm springs instead of 21mm

i think it's safe to say the ttc pom are roughly in that 50-ish range though

[sacred elm]

If wooting poms are 30/55 that will be pretty nice

although i dont really care about spring weight

[steel ibex]

That’s a more surefire way to lose 20$

[harsh dove]

actually salvation is about 1.2kg weight included

so this tofu is twice as heavy

without a weight lol

[ocean anchor]

no, at least you have a chance of 10x+ when you snipe meme coins instead of throwing it away to get a virus infected by the ccp in ur package

[steel ibex]

Real

Also I’m looking into getting a skypad

Is there a specific arm sleeve I should use