🔧│keyboard_modding

[stone flax]

noice

[fluid hedge]

so the one that house's the dz60RGB v2 (what I have) doesn't work is what you are saying?

nvm I double checked the case compatibility notion page ty

[kind helm]

how you liking it

[flat cobalt]

If I got a Salvation could I use a Venom60 pcb?

[kind helm]

this is on venom60he

[flat cobalt]

Hmmmm

[tropic urchin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgXkeHc5BGY

holy fuck

[kind helm]

saw it on bilibili, i thought its the same as the one that they have released?

[tropic urchin]

nah im just seeing the full white build for the first time

[harsh dove]

my silver build is better

[kind helm]

ahhh ic ic, the way you can dissemble is nice oon that thing

[tropic urchin]

potato potatoe smh

[kind helm]

at least from the look of the video

[fluid ravine]

dude

[polar girder]

Dreams do come true

[fluid ravine]

i fucking

love this shit

literally

the first typing test

[kind helm]

alu fcks right

[harsh dove]

mines a better potato

[fluid ravine]

i broke my own record

[kind helm]

hehehehe

[fluid ravine]

138wpm

then 135

i avg like at 120 and less

[fluid ravine]

it fuck SO HARD

[polar girder]

What is this?

[fluid ravine]

wait-

wait

josh

can you help m,e

how

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/fancy-pants-rich-mcgee-fancy-pretentious-luxury-superior-gif-7820132470965790718

[fluid ravine]

do i change the layout ont eh software

rn its at 6.25u

[kind helm]

https://venom.how/

run the page on chrome based browser

[fluid ravine]

oh

[harsh dove]

I don't even have one yet but I just know its gonna be better

[tropic urchin]

I see you've taken a page out of the MJ playbook of civility well done

[harsh dove]

I call this "Thackson Unleashed"

[tropic urchin]

ngl after seeing it up close i think white GT80 clears white zinc 😳

[fluid ravine]

@kind helm

[kind helm]

alu with raw

[kind helm]

idk maybe try updating the driver

[fluid ravine]

where to update

[kind helm]

you click connect there you should have a page you can look at

similar to wooting

[harsh dove]

it is a pretty neat case

[fluid ravine]

wtf-

[kind helm]

under settings there is an option for firmware update

[fluid ravine]

mk

[tropic urchin]

I really like the slimmer bezels and normal keyboard angle tbh

[kind helm]

after seeing the transparent black i think that plastic case clears all the 80he metal case

[tropic urchin]

and you dont have to worry about something hitting your shit either

[kind helm]

looks so cool

[harsh dove]

I like the way they did the lightbar tbh

[tropic urchin]

TRUE

i love the lightsaber light bar look

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[tropic urchin]

take that thoccy ish outta here

[fluid ravine]

i updated the firmware

but its still at 6.25u

[harsh dove]

The Ghost case?

[kind helm]

dont mention thock, bro i want a tiger lite tkl with raed right now

[harsh dove]

aka the one I'm currently using

[kind helm]

its gonna be thock on thock on thock

THOCK

[kind helm]

yea

[tropic urchin]

i'll say it once more for the homies in the back....................

[harsh dove]

Ah okay, yeah the ghost case is nice

[kind helm]

that gameboy setup you had really got me

[kind helm]

idk honestly

[fluid ravine]

..........

shit-

[kind helm]

because mine came in recognized as 7u

fck

go to remap page and see if you have a option for layout

maybe that name doesnt matter

[calm pulsar]

is this benom? I think it is not interchangeable, should be tied to a specific pcb

[kind helm]

my thought too, and i assume thackson brought the 7u version

[calm pulsar]

@fluid ravine did you check if your pcb itself is 7u? physically

[fluid ravine]

yes

it is

[kind helm]

he did a soundtest with it already

[split dagger]

Dumb question but how many switches would I need for the 80he

[kind helm]

on top with the optimum case, tis pretty nice

[fluid ravine]

even the print is listed as 7u

[fluid ravine]

:3

[calm pulsar]

damn maybe it needs a specific firmware to fix this

cause mine was 7u always

[kind helm]

yeee thats why i asked him maybe updating the firmware would fix it

maybe bro gotta ask on geon's discord

luckily they reply pretty fast

[sacred elm]

90 to have some extra

[calm pulsar]

yeah

[split dagger]

Ok thank you

[polar girder]

OMG SAME

[kind helm]

200$ for your froggy when you switch to tiger lite?

[polar girder]

I think I’ll just go TTC Pom in frog instead

[polar girder]

LOL yeah right

[kind helm]

LOLOL

hey man just letting you know :3 i want a froggy

[harsh dove]

Yeah once I get some of these new switches in, I think ima rebuild my frog

Has Jade Pros in it rn

[polar girder]

You think I should get nylon or PP plate to go with TTC Pom in frog?

Trying to formulate an answer without actually testing both

[kind helm]

has mr cam try nylon

[polar girder]

Solid

[calm pulsar]

this channel is all about that

[harsh dove]

I haven't tried Nylon or PP but I'd be inclined to try Nylon

[kind helm]

on a good day

[polar girder]

When I switch to venom and sell Wooting I can send you my Wooting frog nylon plate

[harsh dove]

[polar girder]

And pp

And alu

[harsh dove]

Yeah I might be down for that

I have an Alu frog plate

[polar girder]

lol I don’t need them once I’m done

[harsh dove]

what color is yours tho?

[polar girder]

Yeah whatever I’m just trying to get rid of them at that point lol

Black

[harsh dove]

regular alu?

oh I'll take it then

mine is regular silver

[kind helm]

i thought yall ordered from the same site arent you both in us

[polar girder]

It’s a cafege black frog alu Wooting, and hype black pp and like a dark grey nylon

[harsh dove]

your alu plate is black tho?

[calm pulsar]

my cafege alu plate for wooting is super nice sounding

not black though, just saying

[polar girder]

Yes

[kind helm]

alu is sexy, and i am glad mr thackson is one of us now

[harsh dove]

Ah okay, just making sure lol, cause I knew your Frog Mini was black

[chilly mural]

Listening to topre naow makes me want one

Gonna wait for Sander sound test

[kind helm]

the only concern i have with topre is its force curve

its curvy

[violet fulcrum]

split back and right shift very based

[calm pulsar]

you summoned an actual rubber dome enjoyer

[violet fulcrum]

feels great with rt

[chilly mural]

Rubber dome good, used in old rhythm game controller and overpriced konami controller

[kind helm]

its not overpriced when you enjoy it

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

every custom keyboard enjoyer

[calm pulsar]

[violet fulcrum]

so the top of the press will be heavy so that if u have a .1mm actuation u wont fat finger easily but it rounds down through the press so that you can spam it very easily

[harsh dove]

tsangan layout is the only reason I'd want venom

[calm pulsar]

that's kinda cool, want to try it out

[kind helm]

hes selling it so well

[harsh dove]

but ima just get that new 65HE

[calm pulsar]

probably very different dome there, but still curious

[fluid ravine]

i may be cooked temporarily i hope

[kind helm]

surly you dont want to try gummy oring mount at some point

surly

👀 no new boards cases that need db?

[polar girder]

Definitely me after buying frog mini lol

[kind helm]

fck, you asked they havent answer?

i hope its just gonna be a simple reflash for the firmware

[kind helm]

YOU DONT WANT IT GIVE IT TO ME

[polar girder]

I paid too much

And you’re being cheap

You don’t stand a chance

[kind helm]

how much

[polar girder]

$300

[harsh dove]

I was thinking of trying HE in my Protag but wouldn't work cause of the leaf spring plate system

[kind helm]

sry because mj got his around 200 something iirc

[fluid ravine]

not yet

[polar girder]

Yeah idc

[fluid ravine]

https://discord.com/channels/743801649377574924/1338542643570933834

@kind helm

[kind helm]

i am lowkey down

[polar girder]

wtf makes you think I’m selling my frog

Wild

[kind helm]

BRO JUST EDGED ME

NAH

[calm pulsar]

lmao

[kind helm]

imma cry in a little corner

[polar girder]

I just stated facts

You edged yourself

Is Geon real name Merisi?

[harsh dove]

Nah its Isirem

[polar girder]

lol same thing spelt both ways

So ok

[kind helm]

i think follow up and ask when because yours is fcked too

ain no way they bout to just let their customers suffer

[fluid ravine]

yeah-

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah btw

that thread i sent

with the guy having the same problem

was just yesterday

[fluid ravine]

so i aint th eonly one who got the problem recently

[kind helm]

yea i know but he didnt maention when

[polar girder]

Saw that and got confused

[kind helm]

yea

maybe now they have bigger supply they fcked up

[calm pulsar]

so when are you selling your gmk cosmos to me

[polar girder]

But Tom said he could so idk

[calm pulsar]

[polar girder]

Everyone get off my jock

Jeez lol

[kind helm]

i can try asking my goat from QQ (essentially discord in china but older)

[calm pulsar]

xdd, im just adding to the edge

did you receive yours btw?

[harsh dove]

gib

HMX Sonja

[polar girder]

Not yet

Cannon key like last to receive lol

[calm pulsar]

reminds me of gateron 80082 switches

[polar girder]

MX detected. Content rejected.

[harsh dove]

but but... they so nice

[calm pulsar]

mx detected

HE copium injected

[kind helm]

👀 just curious, when you switch to mx, do you feel like a tiny bit of scratchiness?

i never felt that when i used to use mx, but when i switch to he it felt so smooth, caused me to switch to he entirely

[harsh dove]

Well the currently build I have it has scratchy switches so yeah

[calm pulsar]

its the leaf probably

[kind helm]

yea i think so

[calm pulsar]

or at least partially

[harsh dove]

yeah its the metal contacts

leafs

[kind helm]

i just keep my old hand lubed mx switches in a box now. i dont even know if i ever gonna use them again

[calm pulsar]

I need Geon to start selling Venom MX on aliexpress NOW

[kind helm]

i heard about that recently, like intentionally made scratchiness

made my brain spin

[harsh dove]

https://unikeyboards.com/products/silliworks-x-hmx-sonja-linear-switch-factory-lubed-10pcs

[kind helm]

ahhh this made by my goat

[harsh dove]

Scratch Enjoyers

[kind helm]

he sells venom on taobao

helped with a few questions

siliworks

so the bottom is smooth but the top is scratchy

[thorn zealot]

should i get alu or fr4 for poms if i get them

[kind helm]

depends on what you want :3

[thorn zealot]

i just want some slightly quieter/deeper than raws

idk if alu + poms will alr be that

or if i need fr4 too

[kind helm]

i probably do pc if you want quiet

deeper i probably try pom or pp

alu with pom is gonna be loud as hell i think, i have alu but dont have pom :3

[thorn zealot]

hol on

ik someone here has pom + fr4

does someone here have alu + pom soundtest

[kind helm]

maybe cam has

but comparing different people's sound test is fcked

[cyan lark]

This might be one of those gov't programs to find deranged individuals

[kind helm]

because mic setup different, table setup different, room setup diffferent

hard to compare in a "fair" way

[harsh dove]

I have alu plates and TTC POMs just haven't tried it yet

[kind helm]

oh right you still on cf pom copium?

[harsh dove]

Its actually something I want to try once I get these other switches in and rebuild my Frog

[harsh dove]

yeah

[thorn zealot]

ik but i just want to see

[kind helm]

sry for yapping

[harsh dove]

ima take my keebs outside on the pavement for sound test now

[thorn zealot]

tbh thacks build sounds a lot like mine

from his sound test

[harsh dove]

then everyone can compare by also taking their keebs outside on the pavement

[kind helm]

yo stop, i am drunk rn, this shit is funnier than it should be

[harsh dove]

That man cooked with that config

Haven't heard Alu sound that good with HE yet

[thorn zealot]

does that mean i cooked

[harsh dove]

do you use Alu?

[kind helm]

ik mines kinda meh but i think mr arc's board when he had alu was pretty good

ofc just based on the sound test

[harsh dove]

Ah I might not remember Arcs

would have to hear it again

[kind helm]

arc with the jade knight

Mmm...

[thorn zealot]

i also have alu + raws

[harsh dove]

Ah okay, yeah Alu is nice if you can get it to sound right

kinda depends on what case you're using too

[thorn zealot]

only diff is his case and pcb ig

[kind helm]

case switch and plate combo all gotta work right for stiff plate i feel, otherwise the loudness makes things that sound bad too noticible

[thorn zealot]

ngl my raws are ass rn

[kind helm]

plastic plate hard to sound good or bad because shit so muted everything is kinda hidden almost

[thorn zealot]

think the super lube in my springs are gone and they sound like buns

[tropic urchin]

bought super lube and were left with L lube smh

[kind helm]

btw on that topic, i am down to get your jade knight too below 100 dolla for 61

[thorn zealot]

i only have super lube for my balis

i just bought some 105

im lubing 2 kbs next week during school break

[kind helm]

i have super lube as well i think its fine, but i do feel the 205 stuff probably nicer just because of its quality

[tropic urchin]

im hoping to try it out during my POM lube spree

[kind helm]

expensive lube for expensive switch hehehe

[tropic urchin]

my shit was like $7 lmao

I got the small vial

[kind helm]

ahhh

[tropic urchin]

dont need more than the TTCs tbh

[kind helm]

i was like wtf did you get scammed

LMAO

[tropic urchin]

lmao

[cyan lark]

What are you gonna do with the hour you have left over in your break?

[tropic urchin]

nah I used turing's link so if anything we both got scammed

[thorn zealot]

play hollow knight

[calm pulsar]

shipping alone would be like 50😂

also aint to way im selling my precious babies

[cyan lark]

Good choice

[tropic urchin]

bro crushing dreams out here

[kind helm]

i wouldnt sell them too to be honest

special special switches

[calm pulsar]

well you could make your own, iirc you have raws and jade pros right?

[kind helm]

little bit little bit xD

[thorn zealot]

is it better to bag lube springs with 105 or paint em with 205

[kind helm]

yea i have them each on one board tho

[calm pulsar]

ah nvm just get poms if they are cheaper on wooting tbh lol

[kind helm]

plus knowing those are the "first" jade knights

[calm pulsar]

but if you really wanted you could get black knights

[sacred elm]

Theyre cheaper probably

[kind helm]

special meaning hehehe

[tropic urchin]

i never realized POMs were different from the original KOMs, never realized all pom would make a huge diff

until I bought and heard more test

wild shit

[sacred elm]

if theyre like 80$ thats W

[kind helm]

for your mental and probably also realistically, bag lube

realistically its probably same shit

[thorn zealot]

alr then

[calm pulsar]

we were wilding when jade knights were being made
#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[thorn zealot]

this is making me edge the checkout button

[kind helm]

105109 is a little bit tough, but i am cheap af

[tropic urchin]

that was like a few days before I joined

[kind helm]

i got my gmk and keykobo for 50

[thorn zealot]

its def worth

im not balled up on copium

[tropic urchin]

I like the white with red legends looks nice

[sacred elm]

GIVE

[cyan lark]

Soon bb

[kind helm]

man i need more caps + mat matching

[tropic urchin]

Kanketsu missed the op to include all red side keys

[sacred elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1301116735021121568/1339049553344729181/IMG_1300.png?ex=67ad4e93&is=67abfd13&hm=96232299965360aeb0c5388f7356116e4acc9475de730b050bc30a0a90e40803&

GIVE

[kind helm]

pbtfan has a ton of that

[sacred elm]

(Not soon)

[tropic urchin]

caps are fun to explore

[kind helm]

those are hot

[tropic urchin]

i might get more sets, but dont wanna spend more money when I have perfectly good GMK

[thorn zealot]

just go to alexotos disc and look at his kb showcase channel

[kind helm]

same xD

[thorn zealot]

plenty high rollers flexing their boards

[harsh dove]

Did you order too?

[sacred elm]

Soon

[harsh dove]

[tropic urchin]

true 🙂

[harsh dove]

I ordered Silver

[tropic urchin]

thats the best part

[sacred elm]

Did you order

oh

nice

[tropic urchin]

dont let cam bully you with his silver case

he already did it to me earlier

[kind helm]

LMFAO

you right you right

[ionic breach]

👀 im waiting for their 2nd 80he case

[thorn zealot]

like

[tropic urchin]

im about to file a police report for emotional damage

[tropic urchin]

thats kind of a wild case

[ionic breach]

tho i am quite certain in will be built poorly soundwise

[sacred elm]

it probably will be hella expensive, insta skip for me

[thorn zealot]

patina kohaku

actually not patina

[kind helm]

that s44t is like 500+ no

[thorn zealot]

just spray coat

[thorn zealot]

yes

i think just for the case too

[kind helm]

i wanted the pc one

with the gold back plate

[thorn zealot]

maybe like 450 for case

[kind helm]

my wallet not powerful enough

i need to fcking graduate bro

[ionic breach]

a shop near me has a wall of kohakus

[kind helm]

its TIME TO MAKE MONEY

[thorn zealot]

several ppl in that disc has derivatives too

[harsh dove]

I was gonna get the Rubrehaku

but didn't

[kind helm]

this one 60 or 65, i dont remember

[fluid ravine]

@cold bloom About the gummy o'ring for the venom

[kind helm]

its okay sir, full he board transformation

tis time

[thorn zealot]

65

[kind helm]

wait for something better

[fluid ravine]

leggera >:(

[harsh dove]

I want the Venom65HE

[fluid ravine]

cmon buddy

[harsh dove]

with the Machina case

[thorn zealot]

is this normal or no

[fluid ravine]

ooooo

[fluid ravine]

yes this is how you should be placing the o'ring when using gummy mount

[thorn zealot]

alr

looked weird to me at first

[fluid ravine]

there's a open cut out for the stabs on the plate to allow you to place the o'ring on top of the screw for screw in stabs

normally without the cut out, the oring will protrude and won't allow the plate and pcb to fit into the case

this cutout on the palte prevents that

[kind helm]

now i think about it, i feel like it shouldve happened already

but probably trump's silly games are causing some problem

because the cases are made in china

because the cases are already made, i saw the pictures in QQ

from their chinese partner

[fluid ravine]

Yeah...

[kind helm]

i checked the chat history, on jan it was "在海上" aka "on the ocean"

from china to korea

[ionic breach]

how long did the de minimis delay?

a month

it might make it ngl

oh indefinitely until "measures are in place"

[cold bloom]

hmm

[fluid ravine]

Oh shit-

[ionic breach]

that sure is a smexy red

[kind helm]

魂动红, soul shaking/moving red

these fcking names man

some iphone type shit

[ionic breach]

@harsh dove

[thorn zealot]

exclusive to high rollers

[ionic breach]

its fking actual damascas btw

[thorn zealot]

so the case will be like 650+

[kind helm]

oh hell nah

[thorn zealot]

orig alr 350

[ionic breach]

oh damn its so old the post

i didnt even know this existed

[harsh dove]

Yeah he said there would be some extras

hasn't dropped yet tho

[calm pulsar]

soul shattering, world eating red

[harsh dove]

Mine came out to about $500

With the Copper keyframe and weight

[ionic breach]

imo the damascas would look better on the other cases

i like protag with vibrant colours especially

[tropic urchin]

That’s tempting 🫦

[thorn zealot]

Poor wallet

[harsh dove]

Yeah the Hunter Orange and Green Mamba are pretty cool

[tropic urchin]

I thought you were calling his wallet poor instead of poor wallet 🤣

[ionic breach]

idk something about the top being raised

it just makes colours pop more

plus the colours chosen are so good

[harsh dove]

I got the Copper Sandwich

[ionic breach]

👀 got a render?

[kind helm]

t h i c k

[silver nest]

make me want to squirt some 205g0

like this

[harsh dove]

2nd ones are real photos

[silver nest]

seeing these im regretting not getting a venom 60

[harsh dove]

You can't use a venom on here

has a special plate

[silver nest]

oh

[harsh dove]

unless you can get a plate cut for it

[calm pulsar]

db has to work in the case too

[harsh dove]

yeah

db cable channel

[silver nest]

get a thinner gummy oring

[fluid ravine]

?????

[silver nest]

mine works perfectly with screw ins

[fluid ravine]

that's how you're suppose to install it for the venom-

[silver nest]

oh lol

[fluid ravine]

i know what im doing lol

plus im using a 3a o'ring so it wraps pretty loose as expected

[ionic breach]

god dayum

[harsh dove]

said every man right before fuckin something up

[fluid ravine]

the firmware-

[harsh dove]

Yeah I can't wait

should be getting shipped here very soon

[silver nest]

i got used to the 461e since yesterday my only problem with it is that the space bar sounds hollow

[kind helm]

yea unlucky

[fluid ravine]

I swear I am being blessed with keyboard stuff this month

My goated friend finna order some GMK for me and him
Gonna get Botanical and he's getting DMG 3

But I gotta ditch the BooBs though 😅

Our friend been complaining abt wanting keycaps, so the goat ask me to give him my old set and then buy us new ones

[near loom]

Has anyone used a lube syringe? Is it going to make the space bar feel slow or muddy?

[fluid ravine]

Yes, and it depends on how much you apply

[fluid ravine]

Now shall I put it on my MX or HE....

And what color case shall fit botanical (I'm getting the desert base)

[flat cobalt]

For the people who have the salvation here do you guys regret it?

[kind helm]

i probably paid too much for it but nah

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[flat cobalt]

Is it your main case?

[kind helm]

me kinda do 50% of the time on tofu 2.0 and 50% of the time on salv

[calm pulsar]

just use them both simultaneously, like a split board

only install those keycaps that you use for each side on a split keyboard

[kind helm]

[calm pulsar]

sounds nice when you get more speed

[fluid ravine]

100-130wpm is where it's at to me

[calm pulsar]

yeah around the same to me

[fluid ravine]

what board is this one

[kind helm]

that is salv on my left hand and tofu 2.0 on my right hand

[fluid ravine]

where im most proudest today

[calm pulsar]

the actual end game setup

[fluid ravine]

wut duh haillll

[calm pulsar]

nice, I gotta try 15 sec timeframe too

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[fluid ravine]

yeah i do 15 seconds for sound recording

i dont wanna make it too long nor too short

[kind helm]

60sec i havent done alot though

[fluid ravine]

cancel out the 151 and label as 138

my friend typed 151

[atomic dune]

whats the thockiest switch for the spacebar?

[fluid ravine]

There is no "thocky switch" for a spacebar

nor a thocky switch in general

[atomic dune]

then what can i do to make my spacebar more thocky

[fluid ravine]

That's honestly a specific focus to be real with you

You should just attempt to deepen your whole board along side

Use foams, foams, and foams and like mods like tape mod to accentuate the volume of the board

[atomic dune]

the whole board is deepened bro

i posted this earlier

hold up

i bought the Wooting 60HE prebuilt and have done the following modifications:

-Alumaze 60 Just White Case + foam
-Friction Fit Pad
-PC Plate
-Gateron Jade Pro Switches Lubed with Krytox 205g0
-4 layers Painters Tape Mod
-Gateron Screw-In Stabilizers Lubed with Krytox 205g0
-Band-Aid Mod
-Wooting Double Shot Backlit White Key Caps
-Adhesive Puddy on underside of space bar key cap

My question is if there is anything I have overlooked or missed in order to make it any more thockier or silent in any capacity, the only one i can think of is ceramic keycaps, if anyone has anything constructive to add, please do so, would much appreciate it 🙏🏼

my space bar still sounds high pitched

[fluid ravine]

Got a sound test?

[atomic dune]

yea i can make one rn

@fluid ravine

[fluid ravine]

Lube your stabs

Like properly

Esp on the wires

It's not the switches fault to be fr

It's rattle

[atomic dune]

i bought new stabs that weren’t prebuilt and lubed every piece i can add more tho

[fallen pecan]

dont worry my dude my stock stabs sound like ass too

[fluid ravine]

Like getting down the lube on the stem and housing is easy, it increases smoothness, but all that rattle mostly and definitely comes from the wire

You just need to add more lube into it or use like a higher viscosity lube/grease

[atomic dune]

ok will do

thanks

does screw in stabilizers have anything to do with it

i had clip on ones before

aka wooting stock

[fluid ravine]

Nope

[night atlas]

do you guys tune your stab wires?

[quasi hinge]

When I upgraded from Raws to TTC magneto poms, my sound improved along with rattle

[night atlas]

that shit's so hard, i feel like i always mess it up

[atomic dune]

i feel like just putting a ttc on the space bar lol

got one to spare?

🤣

[quasi hinge]

I had to get 90 so I do have a few lol

might be hard to send 1 switch looool

[quasi hinge]

wooting will be selling their own version soon

I think they said next week they will be in their store

[atomic dune]

oh ok

i’m waiting for the white 80 case

been too long

[quasi hinge]

I can imagine

It has been a while....

[stark osprey]

Top or bottom rattle, or both?

[quasi hinge]

The ttc magento poms are the most stable HE swtiches I have ever used

Almost zero wobble and no stability issues

Due to the longer springs, they pop back and dont have a 'mushiness' feeling to them

all the stab keys are solid

[quasi hinge]

This is ttc pom (first) and raw (2nd) on a carbon fiber plate

[stark osprey]

Im asking cause when you put a box stem on Raws, I find the same effects youre describing on stability.

[quasi hinge]

Franken switch?

[stark osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1280965710486704138/IMG_3060.jpg?ex=67ad9888&is=67ac4708&hm=38d7d372847f1d791fc09cd4c950764a4f1e65e3660221a470c96f12fcea9d33&

Yeah Aligner's Monochrome

[quasi hinge]

Nice! I dont mess around with franken swtiches though

[stark osprey]

That's why Im wondering if it's worth trying the poms, guess I'll wait to see how much of a discount the Wooting version is. I just wish they kept the original colorscheme

[quasi hinge]

I heard these might be even more stable but not released yet

[quasi hinge]

It definitely is but good to wait

[quasi hinge]

what is your spring force here?

OG poms are ~48g and wootings will be 55g

[stark osprey]

On mine, 35g, it is a 22mm dual stage spring though

[glacial wind]

Stability wise I think there’s no point worrying anymore beyond pom. It’s more a question of smoothness and improvement that can be made there, but I think it’s already kind of there with pom

[quasi hinge]

oh nice

[glacial wind]

We starting to hit the severe limited returns stage for stability stuff

[quasi hinge]

Our church leader speaks

[quasi hinge]

Agreed, the poms are amazingly stable

[glacial wind]

Like even the new snake ttc switches vs ttc poms we’re talking crazy sub 0.01 actuation improvements, so feels like stability doesn’t matter beyond here already

No one is even really using 0.01 so feels like it’s just vanity stats now

Like more stable switches will have to claim to be accurate to 0.005 or whatever now, but no one can even use anything that low

[cyan lark]

How was the powder?

[glacial wind]

Pretty decent. No full powder but it snowed all day to keep snow nice, so can’t ask for much more

[cyan lark]

Wonderful 😀

[stark osprey]

Nice! Im waiting for the rains tomorrow here in Socal myself, and see if the mountains actually get some too

[glacial wind]

One of friends posted few reels of today https://www.instagram.com/stories/victoriacheng/3566091770721544878?igsh=MTFldmRpNmJ6MXAxdg==

[quasi hinge]

Yeah Im not switching from POMs

[cyan lark]

Dang I’d check it out but no insta

[ionic breach]

achilios

[cyan lark]

Gonna have some free time in the evenings this week, thinking I should mess with a board.

Was considering grabbing some poly fil. Think it’s worth the drive or is it just poron foam by another name?

[ionic breach]

nah polyfill is like pillow fluff

[cyan lark]

Sure I meant more the effect it has

[stark osprey]

Some people swear it changes the sound profile for them vs foam, but for me it didnt do it in a meaningful way. Perhaps Im biased though, as the fibers make a mess when Im modding/ switching PCB from case to case.

[cyan lark]

Honestly it making a mess is very good info to have, thanks.

Don’t need fluff fibers everywhere.

Stray clouds

[little glen]

not interested

[quasi hinge]

I was thinking of using some too but was afraid of that

Not sure how it actually is since I never had some in my hand

[cyan lark]

I only know how it feels because I’ve had dogs rip up pillows on me. So much fluff everywhere.

[little glen]

I did a plate swap on my venom and now i cant type wth

I think windows somehow thinks i have a stuck alt key or something idk

Hmmm i unplugged the venom and now it works fine

Concerning

But windows also thinks i am holding down shift and caps is reversed

What is going on here

Great now my internet cut out too

[cyan lark]

Damn that venom is strong

(sorry)

[little glen]

Yeah it really got me

[cyan lark]

I can't imagine the plate thickness is that much different, but I suppose it could be fucking with the venom fw?

As in the sensors having a new distance from the magnets 🤷

[little glen]

Idk

Whenever i plug it into my pc it seems to break something until i restart

[rose gazelle]

if i let loose a sonic boom sneeze on my switches and the stems wobble it aint good enough

[tawdry tree]

KoMs > Monochromes for stability. I don’t think Woot benefits from more stability beyond Jade Pros though, at least, not that is visible. The new Kailhs have potential as well for extremely low wobble similar to KoMs’. Kailh’s Mistral/Flames already had very low wobble so if they managed to improve that at all it’d be great.

[sacred elm]

koms just decrease bottom deadzone on wooting thats it, maybe in future they add low rapid trigger (~0.04mm) too and switches like koms will be beneficial

[tawdry tree]

Maybe. Surely.

0.01 when?

[stark osprey]

Awesome thanks for that, excited for the sale then next week!

[tawdry tree]

The price will be reasonable, hopefully. 🙏

[sacred elm]

Would be nice to have 0.04rt with a warning that its only properly usable with stable switches like ttc kom and others. Simon said that at some point they can add it but its not priority rn

[chilly mural]

Could be something nice when they decided to sell switches they're very sure of able to do it

[sacred elm]

Yea, I think most people still use lekkers, no chance they are using 0.04mm with lekkers without misinputs

[tawdry tree]

Jade Rubies are not a Jade Pro recolor. This is a historic day as Gateron has finally decided to drop those ridiculous side clips on their non-dual rails. 🎉 (also, as usual, their render is wrong)

Not sure if there is any improvement other than that though.

[sacred elm]

😳

[tawdry tree]

“Compared to Jade Pro, Ruby is:

-More durable with an increased lifetime of 150 million keystrokes;

-More refined in feel;

-More stable (less wobble).”

Jade Pros, not so Pro anymore.

😃👍

[sacred elm]

ah thats why theyre more expensive

[glossy pagoda]

"increased lifetime of 150 million keystrokes"
I wonder if they measured that or just pulled that out of nowhere

I have a guess, which I'll keep to myself... 😛

[tropic urchin]

Aligner with positive Gateron talk?? Who are you and what have you done with aligner @tawdry tree

[sacred elm]

Imagine buying gateron switches

oopsie

[tropic urchin]

Don’t forget the rubies were advertised as thocky too

Extra check mark

[sacred elm]

toky

[tawdry tree]

click leaf slot still too, they’re never gonna drop that 😂

[flat cobalt]

Maybe I should get

[cyan lark]

We gotta wait at least a week until we pivot to JRs from Poms

[sacred elm]

ttc poms

[tawdry tree]

They look good ngl

[flat cobalt]

I only trust Jade switch

[sacred elm]

💀

[flat cobalt]

The limited edition part though

I wonder what color they’ll bring out next or if it’s a 1 and done

[cyan lark]

Jade max w/ sparkles?

[tawdry tree]

Buy them, use them, sell them for 10x the price because they’re limited edition 🥰😍🥰

[tawdry tree]

Probably the normal Jade color scheme after, or lime green.

There’s still a lime green Jade switch unaccounted for.

[flat cobalt]

[chilly mural]

Hopefully they do soft dreamy purple

[flat cobalt]

Oh like a pastel?

[chilly mural]

yes

[fallen pecan]

definitely 256k scan

[flat cobalt]

[flat cobalt]

Wooting cannot compete

[fallen pecan]

switches

[chilly mural]

ugh~ Still 8khz. Come on, just do 16khz already~

[flat cobalt]

Dude if they had some custom hot pink I’d get it

[fallen pecan]

rt

[sacred elm]

0.005

alright buddy

[chilly mural]

People that buy these sort of thing doesn't care about having to use usb 4 lmao

[sacred elm]

[flat cobalt]

This is what’s keeping me from going pro

[fallen pecan]

colors

[chilly mural]

pink looks nice, but too dark of a pink for me

[flat cobalt]

I bought the ATK RS7 Pro

For the lavender jades

[tawdry tree]

ATK one is interesting. Don’t think I’ve seen that before.

[fallen pecan]

ASPAS is their spokesperson and they have a leviatan switch

that switch is from the older Edge60HE

[languid kestrel]

when 1MHz scan/poll

[tawdry tree]

manu known?

[languid kestrel]

need better number come on

[fallen pecan]

lemme check

[tropic urchin]

Jade rubies are more expensive than Jade maxes without any fun max stability. Pass

[chilly mural]

that'll be nice, that's when the pcb needs air cooling

[tawdry tree]

and an external power supply 💀

[languid kestrel]

go straight to liquid nitrogen and skip measly air

[chilly mural]

still 8khz polling tho

[languid kestrel]

think big!

[cyan lark]

I would like jade pros with more stability is all. I still like them and have room in my heart for poms and jades.

[tropic urchin]

They just tried to steal the hype
Of the TTC snake switches but couldn’t cross into $2 per switch territory

[cyan lark]

Man those snakes 💸

[fallen pecan]

no info on that

[tidal frigate]

I want 0.00005mm rt, simon can do it

[cyan lark]

Activate switches by changing air density with ear wiggles

[tawdry tree]

Renders are wrong. It’s a Sticky Rice/Deng God recolor: https://youtu.be/H1KB1-JlSRU&t=6m40s

[flat cobalt]

So pricey

[tropic urchin]

Mucho pricey

[tropic urchin]

I joined the club instead of getting cosmos

[sacred elm]

👅

[tropic urchin]

Imagine it ships and it’s not just bait for production

[flat cobalt]

With grill?

where grill

[tropic urchin]

They suspiciously added only $28 2-3 day DHL delivery

[tropic urchin]

No grill

Grill is for food

[sacred elm]

grill

[noble mason]

https://youtu.be/M_i5oXYISbQ?feature=shared

do the neo lavenders sound really deep here to u guys?

[kind helm]

"※ tape mod [3 layers], plate foam, poron switch pads, poron case foam, polyfill, burger mount"

[daring turtle]

hey, not sure if i'm in the right place. but a friend of mine built me a custom keyboard with lekker l60 switches and i would like to replace the springs. on the wooting website it says you can't use their springs on other switches, but can i use 3rd party strings on those switches? for example i was looking at the progressive springs from spritdesigns, but i worry they wont fit or they might be magnetic. does any1 have experience with this?

[peak breach]

can we bully kbd fans into making a holy 80 case

[tropic urchin]

@cyan lark out for delivery

[cyan lark]

I knew it 😏

[tropic urchin]

Take that cam with your silver case and Friday eta jk I might get the silver case too

[kind helm]

not many springs work with he switches, from what i know only 2 places currently sell springs for HE switches, either the ones on wooting's site or the geon pingless ones. there are also springs for he on aliexpress but supposedly those are low quality.

the dimension gotta work with the switch and the spring gotta be made with different material compare to typical mx switch

if you just want something lighter or heavier, probably look at the ones on wooting's site. but if you looking for more fancy stuff like double stage spring etc, probably gotta wait abit

[daring turtle]

ah too bad, thanks a lot tho!

[analog mulch]

hey guys is there a case with like rubbery feeling?

[tawdry tree]

Same manu as Gateron/Woot if the AE store is to be believed. They look identical though (finish and such) so I believe it.

[kind helm]

idk just based on mr arc and mr bigsly's experience on ali stuff

i want some double stage spring man

[tawdry tree]

go buy fake double stage off of AE 👍

[valid silo]

So i’m lubing my switches and noticed some of the stems are splitting? I’ve took around 20 switches apart now with pretty much 75% of them being cracked. Is this a normal thing?

[kind helm]

and breathe in A LOT of copium

[stone flax]

lekker 🔥

[tawdry tree]

Not normal but shouldn’t be a problem unless the magnets start falling out.

[chilly mural]

😭 😭 😭

[tropic urchin]

That’s wild

[valid silo]

So far they don’t but kinda suprised they just crack

[tawdry tree]

It’s been shared a couple times but 75% is a lot

did you freeze your board or something?

🤣

[valid silo]

😭

Gonna do tally marks now

[glacial wind]

Send a message and get warranty claim on em

[high sphinx]

Hey guys does someone here know more about the frog leggera pesante cause i see the leggera g and the leggera t on geon shop but not the pesante one

[glacial wind]

It’s not available yet and unsure of instock

[high sphinx]

Oh ok ty

[glacial wind]

Frog leggera orders for Korea were a long time ago now

[high sphinx]

Yeah i was talking ro someone in the geon discord that has the leggera g and he thibks the alu case is to light for alu so i was wondering if i should get the heavier leggera pesante instead but i did not see in anywhere but ty for the info

[glacial wind]

It was purposely made to be light

That’s kind of the entire point of leggera - to be a lightweight option even gamers could use

[kind helm]

froggy leggera peasante. froggy lite heavy

[glacial wind]

pesante is insanely heavy though, it’s the opposite in that the thing is absurdly heavy

[kind helm]

i still dont understand how they make a 60% 3+kg

[glacial wind]

Make entire thing out of really heavy metal

[high sphinx]

Oh i see what is the sound difference tho ?

[glacial wind]

I would assume pesante sounds better, but I’d never buy one for a 60% myself

[kind helm]

heavier = deeper sound and less hollowness without filtering out sound like foam does is my understanding

[glacial wind]

heavier means denser sound vibration basically

[high sphinx]

Oh ok ty what casz would u het for a 60% board loke the venom ?

[glacial wind]

Just normal frog leggera

If I wanted 3kg board I wouldn’t be buying a 60% anyway

Entire point of them for me is I’d be using it as my portable and easy to move gaming board

[high sphinx]

Oh i see ty

[kind helm]

tkl or fullsize for you though, like if fullsize actually has more options 👀

[glacial wind]

I don’t use numpad so I always prefer tkl/75 nowadays

[valid silo]

Just mail them you think?

[cyan lark]

https://wooting.io/support

[polar girder]

Someone with TTC POM cooking up RAED’s and let me know how they compare?

[glacial wind]

Yeah use the support link Turing linked to submit a ticket. I’d assume they just send you some new switches or similar if you’re under warranty still

[glacial wind]

Those would be very different category of switches

I don’t think anyone buying raeds is buying them for performance

[kind helm]

think mr cam placed order

[glacial wind]

Would be for the interesting sound/feel

[kind helm]

someone already got it last night(so like i guess around 10 hours ago or something?) there was a sound test and his experience somewhere

[kind helm]

is there anything else that would be concerning other than wobble, because appearently the wobble is not bad

[glacial wind]

Magnet accuracy/flux

we’re at the stage where wobble also being not bad means it won’t compete at all with poms performance wise also

Not that it needs to - it’s not designed to be some performance competitor

I’m going to assume it’s not that great performance wise since it says the pcbs using it will need to be calibrated specifically for it too

[kind helm]

sry was in game for a sec thanks for the detailed response ❤️

[kind helm]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message honestly i dont think the wobble would be as good as pom, but maybe comparable to jade pro or raw

[tropic urchin]

Specific calibration to be used is crazy 💀

[kind helm]

force curve

"so the top of the press will be heavy so that if u have a .1mm actuation u wont fat finger easily but it rounds down through the press so that you can spam it very easily" - someone who brought it

kinda cope but also kinda fun

[kind helm]

doesnt both wooting and venom run calibration per key? that is kinda why i dont understand why the magnet would matter, even if each switch has some slight variance. because the magnet is going to physically stay the same, then the flux depends essentially on the movement of the magnet, which is the movement of the stem.

[glacial wind]

Is their movement the same though?

[kind helm]

almost certainly not, but i think how consistent the movement is essentially depends on the wobble

[glacial wind]

If the movement isn’t the same then the board won’t be programmed to optimally deal with those movements

Aka why it might not be as accurate

Accuracy isn’t just accurate because of wobble. A lot of he accuracy is also how the board treats movement, so if it’s tight but moves in a way that the board isn’t expecting or calculating that well then it won’t be as accurate

[kind helm]

that is why i kinda think the curvy force curve may fck with the calibration, maybe due to weird timing and stuff.

linear gang rise up moment?!

[glacial wind]

it’s a neat thing but boards having to be specially calibrated for its movement curves to be accurate probably means this is dead in the water outside of very niche hobby stuff

[polar girder]

lol ik

Curious if they suck feel wise tho

For like solidness of performance type shit

[kind helm]

time to wait for a collab, wooting topre with special support

[glacial wind]

It’s a bit ironic that support for these sorts of projects is something that enthusiasts now look towards wooting to support honestly

when it’s precisely the reason why wooting costs more - because they sometimes do look at doing and supporting random stuff like this

[kind helm]

actually its weird. because flux if i remember correctly, relates to speed, but realistically people press at different speed, especially for rt situation

i wish i remember more of my ee stuff, feels like a braindead

[glacial wind]

The most time spent on keyboard he tweaking stuff is all the annoying noise curve stuff

Which is why it’s probably a decent workload to get a board fully optimized for these

[kind helm]

i really think they probably just test a bunch of stuff then based on some min max + a certain "safe zone" and call it. probably why wooting hide the setting for deadzone

[glacial wind]

You’re way off base.

rakka has an entire blog about how almost all he development work is the noise curve stuff

[polar girder]

I’m pretty sure they just do whatever the cool kids in here talk about a lot.

[kind helm]

because currently they dont have a setting for to select switches

[polar girder]

[kind helm]

and even that would be fcked due to different mount

if we really min maxing out here then its like tray mount all the way

[glacial wind]

Switch selector speeds up auto cal it doesn’t replace it

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-please-walkout-gif-14086062

[glacial wind]

Lemme see if I can dig up that rakka blog

[kind helm]

thanks sir

would be a fun read

i keep tabbing out of my game it crashed

[glacial wind]

https://rakka.dev/docs/what_is_latency

Tldr is if you want shitty latency or fast latency but awful accuracy/mishandling then you can do the scuffed noise curve method you used as an example earlier

But then you’re basically like an oem board running generic software with awful consistency and accuracy because it hasn’t been tweaked properly

[polar girder]

Yeah I’m on a minimal latency kick for sure

[kind helm]

get on the stiffest plate and do tray mount

[glacial wind]

Basically all the extra dev time and such that people ignore as an investment is why the top boards are the top boards - they have proper dev teams constantly fine tuning the calibration settings

[kind helm]

and put on some headphone in case of ear r4p3

[polar girder]

I hate tray mount

[kind helm]

but but but min maxing

[polar girder]

I’m usually a massive min maxer with this shit

But not for tray mount

[kind helm]

ngl reading this makes me feel like a small ML model in there would be nice

but probably cooks the latency from board to pc

[cyan lark]

Let's not put models into keyboards with great haste

[kind helm]

or like making a ml model on their server end to run the timing prediction during calibration

[cyan lark]

I do actually agree that it could be helpful to calibrate tho

^

[kind helm]

but this kinda of timing shit is like perfect for ML

opposite to frame generate which in my 3 brain cells head still full of cope

[cyan lark]

I guess I'm just saying I wouldn't want to be the first person running a keyboard that is filtering its inputs through a model

[glacial wind]

There’s not a chance most brands will invest into doing that also lol

[cyan lark]

Someone else can bite that bullet

[kind helm]

nah timing just needs small model though not like LLM type fancy big stuff

like small to a point a model cpu probably would be fine

[glacial wind]

goes back to the point where you’re basically making suggestions that are probably not profitable but interesting things that only brands like wooting might try out for fun or curiosity

[kind helm]

i am just yapping enjoying a relaxing morning man

[glacial wind]

Yeah but what I mean is if these are your stances then you should probably be more open regarding the wooting vs venom trolling

[kind helm]

i mean i do say 80he as a pre built fucks

[glacial wind]

doing random passion project stuff and not min/maxing is part of why wooting isn’t a min max performance machine like the venom

so it’s the other side of the coin

[kind helm]

honestly if they pay me and give me some data and i dont have papers to write i am down to fck around with it a bit

but a lot of conditions there LMAO

[glacial wind]

That’s not how passion projects work

You do all the work, you pay for it, then maybe 1/10 of those projects bring in anything useful and you get rewarded a bit

[kind helm]

sound like researching without funding, hurts my soul. i have one project that i cant put time on because there is no money for it right now

[glacial wind]

And for the 9/10 that fail you’ll probably be ridiculed by the internet and all enthusiasts around for being dumb and not going the established path. the true business start up experience

[kind helm]

i am just happy and content with coming up with a fun idea, GAMER gotta game and chill

[cyan lark]

I have noticed a distinct lack of chill around gamers lately

[tidal frigate]

I'am chill Pole...

Chill Pole based on cs standards

[tropic urchin]

Chill and terminally online doesn’t go together too well

And that’s not even really a gamer critique as much as the social media doom scrollers

[kind helm]

soon people start chatting with ai instead of people, and every time ai would be like you are the best, long live to you my lord

[tropic urchin]

Lots of folks losing their minds these days

[tropic urchin]

That’s going to be scary when AI doesn’t push back and reinforces bad thoughts/ideas

[glacial wind]

I swear the whole terminally online being used these days as almost an ‘in’ condition to have for socially awkward people growing up is definitely not healthy

[kind helm]

reminds me of one joke from bill burr, once people get used to sex robot then when they meet a real person they be thinking "why doesnt she just get down on her knees the moment she sees me"

[glacial wind]

People should not want to happily share that they’re terminally online. Gotta go be productive offline sometimes

[kind helm]

100% nothing beats going out with the homies

[slim drift]

what are some good stabs for a poppier profile

[haughty ingot]

hello : ) if I get PCR case and don't like it I can just order the zinc case from wooting and manually swap it?

[sacred elm]

yes

[haughty ingot]

tyvm 🙇‍♂️

[glacial wind]

You don’t really change stabs for sound like that

[slim drift]

alr alr gotchu

and

is this a good plate

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006050178592.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.7.64091b0dRdFWzK&algo_pvid=4800497a-6f1a-472e-8381-fa04e8dc1aae&algo_exp_id=4800497a-6f1a-472e-8381-fa04e8dc1aae-3&pdp_ext_f={"order"%3A"36"%2C"eval"%3A"1"}&pdp_npi=4%40dis!EUR!11.92!11.92!!!88.17!88.17!%40210388c917393751701607877ec51a!12000038605224473!sea!IE!4195051588!ABX&curPageLogUid=R1Soi3ku0Eyy&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

like would it work well for my wooting

the fr4 one

[left depot]

scary link

[slim drift]

this thing

its actually a very friendly link

[left depot]

yeah but you couldve just skipped everything after the ? I believe haha

[slim drift]

idk I just pasted it from bar :p

[left depot]

maybe even the number

[glacial wind]

That’s the one you’re buying? I wouldn’t pick one with tons of flex cuts like that

[slim drift]

idk where to find one without flex cuts

and kbd fans I am NOT paying 40 bucks shipping

[glacial wind]

what exactly are you buying? There’s a ton of plates in that link

Fr4 plate?

[slim drift]

ye

fr4 plate

I heard its gonna help the sound profile I wsant

[glacial wind]

I don’t know what sound profile you want but fr4 is kind of a mid range late in between the other options

[slim drift]

I heard its good for a poppier sound profile

like a loud snappy one

[haughty ingot]

are ttc pom the best switches for 80he? and if so do I need to order them separately and install them? or are there plans for wooting to offer this?

[kind helm]

in a week they will release one that is a colab with ttc

but not sure if the quality is the same

or price

[glacial wind]

Keyboard fun store has non flex cut options btw

And if you want poppy sound I’d go carbon fiber over fr4 personally

[cyan lark]

I thought keyboard fun store went MIA?

[glacial wind]

Did something happen to them?

[haughty ingot]

ah ok hmm, if I order them from direct from ttc pom will they fit/work?

[cyan lark]

No maybe not, I'd just heard something happened 🦝

[glacial wind]

They’re still there on aliexpress as far as I can see

[cyan lark]

Yeah my bad

[slim drift]

would this work

venom is similar to wooting I assume

[kind helm]

no

[glacial wind]

No

[kind helm]

screw holes are a bit different

[glacial wind]

Why not just buy the fr4 plate from the link you sent - the one that doesn’t have flex cuts

[slim drift]

the link I sent has flex cuts tho

[kind helm]

flex cut to many is a bad thing

[glacial wind]

The photo of the white fr4 has no flex cuts

[slim drift]

ik so im tryna find one without them BUT kbd fans making me pay 40 shipping for 15 euro product

[kind helm]

they have a ali store

[slim drift]

thats a polycarbonate no?

[kind helm]

maybe better shipping

or the one sno mentioned

[glacial wind]

It says fr4 on the photo

[slim drift]

wait what

wait ur right

[slim drift]

is there a difference between them or is it the same thing without flex cuts

[glacial wind]

They’re all wooting plates. Just different materials and cuts vs no cuts

[sacred elm]

order from wooting in a week, it will be the same

maybe cheaper

[slim drift]

alr gotchu was just wondering if there is a reason the back one is 30 and this is 18

[haughty ingot]

sounds good, thanks!

[kind helm]

probably some material more rare or whatever

think that is a thing with white pp and black pp

it sounds wrong but that is what i saw!

[fallen pecan]

nah there are 2 variants, the inlaid and non-inlaid

non is cheaper by about 30rmb

[kind helm]

so 4 5 usd

[fallen pecan]

they also had silver cf but that's sold out

[tropic urchin]

@cyan lark @calm pulsar POMEGRANATES DELIVERED

oh boy

Afternoon is going to be 🫦

[sacred elm]

👅

[tropic urchin]

Back day early pays off

[cyan lark]

ooo right you're gonna hand lube. 💪

[sacred elm]

that sticker is... interesting

[cyan lark]

I'm just working with what they provided us.

[polar girder]

Do you have POMs too?

[tropic urchin]

I’m coming around to POMs since they aren’t the same nasty sounding ones like the original KOM

But today is the magical day

[polar girder]

Nice dude

Yeah curious

[tropic urchin]

I’m gonna be giving them a try on CF plate once they’re lubed

[polar girder]

Nidez

[tropic urchin]

Too lazy to remove Jade pros from FR4

And if they’re less high pitched than raws then I think CF is still in play

[sacred elm]

I dont think its less high pitched

[tropic urchin]

less loud

[sacred elm]

doubt

[tropic urchin]

From Turing’s test it wasn’t close 💀

Granted a test is just that a test, but it was wild

[cyan lark]

I dunno if you'll like the sound or not, but I imagine you're gonna be very happy w/ the stability.

[polar girder]

What test

The Turing Test?

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-pointing-ah-ah-he-said-it-gif-24183120

[high sphinx]

hey guys on the venom is there a way to go back to an older beta instead of the newest beta ?

[cyan lark]

But actually: #🔧│keyboard_modding message
#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[polar girder]

Damn POM’s rock solid

Love that

Thanks

[sacred elm]

thats crazy actually

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-comedy-ron-burgundy-will-ferrell-im-not-even-mad-gif-3433921

[sacred elm]

I said about sound

what

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[tropic urchin]

I assumed wrong

I got AI baited and thought Turing linked his original tests not the wobble

[cyan lark]

Oh sound test?

[sacred elm]

give sound test

[cyan lark]

Magic word?

[kind helm]

DADDY?

[sacred elm]

I beg you