🔧│keyboard_modding

[kind helm]

how come

[tawdry tree]

considering all the extra costs like packaging and the fact that they’re specifically made for woot

[kind helm]

yay more wooting "passion" cop

[tawdry tree]

unless woot bought a shit ton, then maybe

[kind helm]

[little glen]

Surely woot got a good bulk deal and doesnt take margin on it

[little glen]

If the woot ones are same price that og i will go for woot simply for "buying within EU" reasons

[visual ore]

$2 TTC switches here we come!

[little glen]

And the fact that they are close by so shipping will be fast

[visual ore]

I don't know about that

The switches have to get to Wooting first

[tawdry tree]

yeah, if they match the price it’ll be a “good” deal

[visual ore]

If anything I feel it may take longer

[tidal frigate]

Guys belive me, wooting will have tactile he switches with release of owlab case

[visual ore]

I believe

[tawdry tree]

next week, I don’t think they’ll be preorders

[visual ore]

Ahh okay

[tawdry tree]

nobody understand tactile for he, not even woot

😭

[visual ore]

Tactiles are a cheap code for good sounding keyboards T.T

[tidal frigate]

They know

[visual ore]

That's why I want tactiles

[tidal frigate]

And they know that i know

[little glen]

Tactile good for DKS i imagine

[tidal frigate]

But they deny it

[tawdry tree]

real

[tidal frigate]

So i would look like idiot

[kind helm]

do you understand (asking because i really dont understand wat is the point

[tidal frigate]

But their face movement and how they answer says tactile lekkers soon

[tawdry tree]

Analog and DKS, combined either tactile switches makes things easier.

[fluid ravine]

day 20

[tawdry tree]

And just typing as well.

[little glen]

For dks i can understand setting one input before the bump and one after so you have more control/knowledge what you are doing with it

[kind helm]

you getting from geon right?

dks i think is kinda gimmicky

[tawdry tree]

precisely

[kind helm]

like if you want that kinda of control for certain games

have you heard of controllers

those are great

bigger travel too

[fluid ravine]

yh

[tawdry tree]

It still is yeah. It can be really great but woot kinda abandoned it imo

[kind helm]

got mine less than 14 days through dhl

[little glen]

I thought the original pitch for it was cool

[fluid ravine]

:(

[little glen]

In LoL

[tawdry tree]

there’s a lot more you could do with it if it was slightly different

[fluid ravine]

it's on dhl express

rn

[stone flax]

ur geon ?

[fluid ravine]

mhm

[tawdry tree]

In Fn as well

[stone flax]

whatd u get

[tawdry tree]

That’s the vid they showcased it in iirc

[kind helm]

i think hard to support different games too probably

i never tried it

[little glen]

I dont think FN existed when w1 came out did it?

Or do i have my timeline mixed up

[fluid ravine]

1rst Order:
Venom 7u PCB
Venom plate Alu
TypePlusxYIKB stabs
Geon Spacers

2nd Order:
Geon Balanced Wire
Geon Brush
Switch Opener
Another set of RAW HE 60g switches
Venom FR4 Plate

[tawdry tree]

DKS can be used for a whole lot, but very few use it so it’s kinda meh

[little glen]

Alu and fr4 plate

I did the same thing

[stone flax]

and it hasnt shipped yet?

[kind helm]

yea cause in those game a controller or something else would probably be better

[tawdry tree]

I remember the FN showcase when the Two HE was released so not sure about the W1

[uneven cradle]

Depends if you want mouse input with analogue movement it works nicely in the games that allow that

[fluid ravine]

@stone flax

i did 2 orders

[stone flax]

hmmm

[fluid ravine]

combination order i suppose

cus they both have the same shipping information

[stone flax]

Geon good

[uneven cradle]

But yes I'd say most people are not using the feature at all

[tawdry tree]

DKS isn’t gamepad, it just allows you to set different keys on different depths of a press basically. So you could bind Control to 0.5mm and V to 0.6mm, so when you press the key it pastes. Kinda like a macro but not like a macro ;)

[kind helm]

in legend probably should still be considered as cheating though

[little glen]

Did i miss the leggera coming out or is geon just listing it on the store preemptively

Cause it says sold out 😭

[uneven cradle]

And it is in some games (Osu)

[fluid ravine]

Yh i got the shipment information and on Geon's website status is listed as "Fulfilled"

but it's been 3 days since it got fulfilled and still hasn't shipped out

[tawdry tree]

It’s considered cheating in pretty much every competitive game. That’s why I hated Woot’s argument on Rappy Snappy so much, it really was hypocritical 😭

Pointing finger to razer when you do the same thing 😭

[fluid ravine]

I'll also being making another order of a Venom MX PCB with alu plate and the Leggera G Silver Case once the case starts selling

[stone flax]

wooting will always be the most moral, grassroots, pro-consumer company and it shows through every action they have ever committed

[fluid ravine]

But again, idk why it's taking too "long" for the shit to ship
i'm probably just impatient rn

And I just want to get my testing week over

gonna be really busy this week :(

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/10foot-pole-high-horse-arrogant-gif-10461828

[stone flax]

wootpr

[kind helm]

the true wootpr is not here luckily

[stone flax]

😞

wootpr blocked me

[kind helm]

it is like already on dhl's side

or still on geon

[fluid ravine]

DHL

[kind helm]

i feel like maybe because you had 2 orders they needed extra time to organize

like early on

[fluid ravine]

fukkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

:(

sadge

[uneven cradle]

My venom arrives today

[little glen]

My venom arrived on friday

I was very happy to finally build in my salvation that‘s been laying around for almost a month

[uneven cradle]

Gonna have to dust off my tofu60

[kind helm]

i dont think i got to see it yet, i probably missed it, sry sir

[little glen]

These pictures are terrible at showing off the cosmos tbh hahaha

[kind helm]

bigsly's setup fits cosmos the best

bro has everything in black

[little glen]

I will swap the keycaps anyway to some beige gmk with dualshot accents

[kind helm]

which switch is on there

[little glen]

Raw he

[kind helm]

i find jade pro a bit too loud for it, raw works much nicer

[little glen]

Fr4 plate atm

Will also try alu once i get back home

[kind helm]

fr4 good too

[little glen]

Want to do a sound test of both to compare

[polar girder]

lol gotta give up the black switches tho RIP

[kind helm]

i can show a comparison but sound level were set differently and one was using pbt the other using abs, so probably not really good

[little glen]

I mean there are black switches they just are not very good

[kind helm]

you cant see it its alright

hide them under the stary key caps

[little glen]

But yeah i am very happy with the build tbh

Now i will proceed and lend it to my brother so he can try it out for himself

[kind helm]

dare i say fr4 + raw + salv i enjoyed more than my mx switches

👀

[cyan lark]

Salv is super fun

[little glen]

My lil bro wants a new keyboard but i want to make sure he gets something he likes so i‘ll let him try this and see how he likes it

Especially from a layout pov

And HE/linear

[kind helm]

mx on fr4 is a little bit muted but on raw its just sex

to me personally of course

[polar girder]

I have BK

Hella mid

[polar girder]

Yeah was fun while it lasted lol

I’ll wait for Wooting TTC Pom tho p

Now I’m curious

[fluid ravine]

Wild

What mx switches

[kind helm]

fr4 + gateron speed silver pro(the double stage spring version)

i think this one needed alu plate

[fluid ravine]

Gateron speed silver???

[fluid ravine]

ermmmmm]

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/spit-it-out-doughboy-boyz-n-the-hood-say-it-speak-gif-21699388

[ocean anchor]

best sounding plate for raw geon switches on zinc alloy

[half bear]

Hey guys I have the 60HE and i just orderd the 80HE and I was wondering if I were to like heavily mod them including switches and everthing like that will it mess with any of the rappy snap or socd or anything like that. So in summery im just wondering if it will still be a wooting software wise.

[kind helm]

dont matter

unless you consider really extreme case

but even then the wooting's settings are safe enough it dont matter

[half bear]

Loll wasnt expecting an answer back that fast I love this community, loll thank brother man

[knotty iron]

Congrats and I hope you enjoy the 80HE! Nope, you'll be all good just don't forget to press the buttons a few times when the keyboard is powered

[glacial wind]

Yeah generally you’re good to mod most things long as you avoid things that mess with actuation stability (like don’t add in switch pads for no reason). Wootings software is extremely stable so you’re good

It’s why eyejoker still has wooting as his main he recommendation for most folks

Holy shit you guys read that US tariff rate from geon if you order over $250

That’s quite the tax

[quasi hinge]

So keep orders below 250$ if you are in the us?

[glacial wind]

I’m not even sure if under $250 is totally safe for them either, just that it goes to informal clearance but is still possibly hit

[quasi hinge]

And would you know if that is total cost or exclusive of shipping?

[glacial wind]

Usually it’s exclusive of shipping but no idea, whole thing sounds rough for US folks

[quasi hinge]

Im not from the us but I order things to a forwarder there sometimes otherwise I wouldnt be able to get anything

[glacial wind]

45% tax

Oh it’s everyone I think reading this more

Not just high value orders but low as well, as long as it’s to the US and contains any Chinese made products

No more ordering venoms through geon for US folks unless they want to pay 45% tax

[quasi hinge]

Which is basically almost every consumer product

At least tech wise

[tropic urchin]

Instead of owning Greenland, Denmark now owns the US with that 45% tax 💀

Smu rolling in his grave

when Smu has lower tax rate than the above, that shit aint right

[quasi hinge]

Someone alert the Greenland association of keyboard enthusiasts lol

[tropic urchin]

maybe 1 person

maybe is pushing it

[quasi hinge]

100% lmao

[tropic urchin]

welp im glad i got that wuque studio puller when i did 😭

[glacial wind]

Nice of US to join Brazil in solidarity with the absurd tax bill for ordering things

[quasi hinge]

Forgive me for asking again but does this mean everything will go up in price? Or just packages

[tropic urchin]

not forgiven, 45% tax on forgiveness

[glacial wind]

Everything from geon containing Chinese products

[quasi hinge]

Like will best buy in the us or iphones be taxed at 45%

[glacial wind]

The $250 or not $250 just changes informal vs formal clearance it seems

[glacial wind]

Well it’s geon products not other brands yet - other brands will have to figure it out

that’s why there’s so much delay and other things with us shipments now because everyone has to figure out what these new rates means for each business

[quasi hinge]

Yeah totally makes sense, thank you for humoring me

[tropic urchin]

torontokeyboardman needs to lock in and stock this alu plate

[glacial wind]

Oh I didn’t even see the headlines today for the new steel and aluminium import tariff lmao

Wow US is a mess

[tropic urchin]

my beastx pro is prob fucked then ggs

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-goodbye-sully-leaving-sad-gif-8644642430984552578

[tidal frigate]

@glacial wind trump forgot everything quality etc comes from europe

Even food

I think giving usa cheap food to prisoners should be a geneva convention violation

It is basicly war crime

[quasi hinge]

What was the last piece of tech you got made in europe?

Maybe the zaunkoenig guys are okay lol

But everything PC is made in china

[tidal frigate]

Tech to make chips at tsmc

[quasi hinge]

Yes but I meant personal item lol

[tropic urchin]

Microwave pizza and peas would drive anyone crazy

[quasi hinge]

Not hitting Europe lol

Just reality of Made in China

[tidal frigate]

Well... furniture

[quasi hinge]

$$$

[tidal frigate]

Cars

[tropic urchin]

Furmiture is a new one

[quasi hinge]

Japanese still king with cars

Sry

Imo

[tidal frigate]

Well after audi rs6 c6 entire car industry fell off

@quasi hinge we also make trucks

Lots of trucks

[quasi hinge]

After Germany was cut off from cheap russian gas, german industry has been imploding

[tidal frigate]

Well i live in Poland

[quasi hinge]

Just looking at the latest #s coming out of germany

[tidal frigate]

So our main exports are games, food, furniture and highly skilled workers

And most of transport is run in Poland

[kind helm]

is that for 250+ orders or every order

the custom thingy is for 250+ items packages

[tidal frigate]

@quasi hinge we also do not accept any food that is not complianent with eu standards

[glacial wind]

No the customer thing is clarifying informal vs formal clearance

seems it’s everything

[tidal frigate]

Well it is trump problem that he wants his people to suffer

[quasi hinge]

Even wooting?

[glacial wind]

No we’re talking specifically about geon orders

Other companies will be hit too but they have to figure it out in their end individually

[quasi hinge]

Was just wondering since its made in china too

Ty

[kind helm]

"DHL has provided an additional update stating that shipments containing products from China valued over $250 USD sent to the United States may experience customs delays and could be subject to taxes."

mainly is this part so i want to have some hope xD

because before from what i heard is like essentially below the original 800 amount they dont really care

yea this is fcked, its not shipments from china, its shipments containing products from china

isnt that fcked for literally everyone in the us from customer to companies?

[gaunt perch]

how do they know its products from china unless they open every single package?

[kind helm]

idk trump doing trump things

actually supposedly some amount of information needs to be given for custom i think, not being truthful is a crime

maybe this is just another piece of information that they supposed to include

[glacial wind]

And that’s why everyone hates trade wars

it’s a mess

Everyone just gets screwed, especially since he’s not implementing these slowly and with care, so companies are getting thrown into the deep end suddenly and no one knows wtf is happening next

[fluid ravine]

WHAT

wait wait wait hollup

[kind helm]

if that is why your package got delayed it would be way too funny

[fluid ravine]

NO PLESASEEEEE

IM GONNA CRASH TF OUT

[night atlas]

i ordered so much shit in mid jan from aliexpress and it's taking forever

i'm so sad

[fluid ravine]

I DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY FOR ANY OF THI SHIT

[night atlas]

all are stuck at customs

is everyone on poms now btw

[cyan lark]

Not everyone. Not yet.

[night atlas]

ill be dormant until then

[vestal sorrel]

Currently there's a pause on this

Roughly 1 week pause on the $250 and China extra tariffs

[quasi hinge]

I am now too

Finally

[night atlas]

how u like em?

i assume you lubed em already too by now

[quasi hinge]

Da best

Super table, nice spring back and little deeper or less clacky sound

👆

Sound comparison vs raws somewhere under too

[night atlas]

fireeeee

Yea, as far as my personal opinon goes, I wonder how switches can get better than this

in terms of stemwobble and general stability

[quasi hinge]

Exactly

They are too good lol

How could they get better?

Maybe something with sound or whatever but the performance is 11/10

[tropic urchin]

Don’t get me too excited I have to wait til 9 PM tmrw 😭 pls arrive sooner

[night atlas]

naw i hope you get more excited

sry not sry

[cyan lark]

It's gonna be terrible my dude

Who would ever use those nasty switches

https://tenor.com/view/findlay-marks-ew-schitts-creek-disgusting-disgusted-gif-16098202

[chilly mural]

Now it needs to me made in Japan by Sanwa Denshi for arcade

[quasi hinge]

Whoever wants those switches better get them from milk tooth before their stock clears out and they import with higher price under tariffs lol

[chilly mural]

Only then it'll be the 'perfect' for me

[quasi hinge]

Made is Japan is goated for me

Love the country

Close by and flights are cheap during super sales, been lucky enough to go a number of times

[fluid ravine]

was playing 2 comps just now and bro all i could think abt is this problem

i am so worried rn

[chilly mural]

Take a rest, it'll all be fine at the end

[thorn zealot]

Should’ve waited for divinikey to restock

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/listen-here-you-little-meme-you-little-shit-damn-you-damn-it-chicken-kiev-gif-25718782

[fluid ravine]

nah nah nah
IM A FLIPPING KID
I DONT GOT NO MONEY IF I PAY FOR THESE TAXES IF ANYTHING HAPPENS

[fluid ravine]

NO

[kind helm]

lock in brother man

teammates need your crispy clean aim

[chilly mural]

How much tax you have to pay?

[kind helm]

if unlucky 45%

[chilly mural]

...

$120

[cyan lark]

jesus

[fluid ravine]

won both of them dw 😭

[chilly mural]

That's a whole ass Venom TKL

[fluid ravine]

like are you fking crazy shiiiiiiiiii

im sobbing bro

[tropic urchin]

We all live in Denmark now

[kind helm]

i want to go back to china now no cap

home of cheap keyboard modding

[tropic urchin]

Maybe you can be lube QC at TTC

[fluid ravine]

sure-

days neva finish.....

massa got me working...

[tropic urchin]

Just don’t buy aluminum plates thackson whatever you do

[fluid ravine]

...........................

[tropic urchin]

And ofc whenever torontoman gets his shit together it’s on tariff day

[fluid ravine]

so you see..

i ordered a aluminum plate

[kind helm]

you can ask in geon's server

there is also a email for question i think

[fluid ravine]

i asked 😭

[kind helm]

to just calm down a bit

[fluid ravine]

an i emailed just now

[tropic urchin]

Damn you really going thru the wringer

[fluid ravine]

wait why no buy alu plate

[tropic urchin]

Might need to send a message to US customs so you can work an extra shift

[fluid ravine]

varedis you're scaring me

[kind helm]

another one on cf plate cope nvm LMAO

[tropic urchin]

New tariff on steel and aluminum products

[fluid ravine]

ARE YOU FUCKING CRAAAAAAAAAAA-

[barren wasp]

Just wait 4 years

[tropic urchin]

Including Canada which is what’s gonna fuck me out of $10 but it’s fine everything is fine

$50 for $20 plate

[cyan lark]

Oh shit he's not lying about steel & aluminum 😆 😢

[glacial wind]

south korea exports a lot of metal to US. can amazon deliver my snowboard helmet quicker before s korea starts some retaliatory tariff please

[tropic urchin]

Real

[kind helm]

plate may not be made in china though

is it? idk

[glacial wind]

trumps new tariff is on everyone

not just china

[cyan lark]

That is the face of someone who has a firm grasp on what they are doing /s

[kind helm]

why lmao

[glacial wind]

why indeed.

[kind helm]

i thought trump was just having a ME HATE CHINA thing

[cyan lark]

I'm so tired of winning

[kind helm]

same

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[thorn zealot]

So should I buy my key caps from Canada now or wait

[tropic urchin]

Idk if all Canada tariffs are back on the menu but my dilemma is just for the aluminum import

If it’s not industrial metal they should really fuck off, but it’s getting a little crazy

[quasi hinge]

I feel lucky to have finished my passion project before this started

Now it can take me to the stars and beyond lol

[thorn zealot]

Did u alr order an alu plate from hype

[tropic urchin]

Worst case you pay an extra 10-25% but if it’s just normal caps i don’t think you should have much trouble

[tropic urchin]

Not even restocked yet

[thorn zealot]

Oh

[thorn zealot]

Wym by normal

[tropic urchin]

I was hoping to get it over the border before this happened but torontokeyboardman took his sweet ass time

[tropic urchin]

Aka not metal

[glacial wind]

canada definitely about to reimplement stuff and not back down this time around

[tropic urchin]

It is yolo season

[thorn zealot]

Are u us or ca

[tropic urchin]

Us

If I was CA I wouldn’t be buying shit online 😭

If this shit sticks around it might not be too long now for the USD to become CAD

[fluid ravine]

man i thought US was cool as kid :(

[thorn zealot]

Are u getting a venom 7u or wooting plate

[fluid ravine]

but naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

shit's cooked

[thorn zealot]

Cuz ik smkb has alu wooting plates

[tropic urchin]

80HE alu

Only 1 vendor has it so far

[thorn zealot]

Yeah nvm

Ur cooked

[tropic urchin]

I’m like rare steak

Worst case customs kicks my package like batch 1 warehouse workers

And I gotta wait extra time and extra $10

[fluid ravine]

damn geon

you quick with it

[tropic urchin]

I’m kinda worried about my beast x pro tho

[fluid ravine]

someone translate for me

my head hurts

[chilly mural]

Trump doesn't like Chinese copy of his $1M chair

[thorn zealot]

I think this means ur good

[cyan lark]

We've always been at war with Eastasia

[fluid ravine]

REALLY?

[thorn zealot]

I mean ur thing is getting picked up by dhl like now

[fluid ravine]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

IM GONNA SOBBBBBB

ima go cry this stress out

[glacial wind]

yeah means you're safe for now but it needs to be quick because it seems like the tariffs are on and off every day lol

[fluid ravine]

o

i see

[thorn zealot]

And I think duty free when delivered means u won’t get taxed like crazy

[fluid ravine]

so the tariff thing is out but it's like on and off at certain time?

[glacial wind]

nah it's just because the tariff war keeps being on, then off again, then on again etc

so companies are trying to adapt in real time to the bs

[fluid ravine]

ah ok

icic

thanks sno

Next Geon order finna be my last

I finna be sooooooooooo done with this shi

[glacial wind]

basically it's as if someone is yelling over the fence into your yard saying he's about to invade and take all your oranges, but then he keeps cancelling it 3 hours later, but the next day he does it again

[fluid ravine]

o

[glacial wind]

so you're constantly trying to counter his orange invasion

[fluid ravine]

haha funny anology

i like

[tropic urchin]

HOA time

[fluid ravine]

the one time i wanna be old to understand all this bs

[glacial wind]

don't worry trump was talking about starting a sovereign wealth fund to basically gamble all the future of the US on borrowed money

so your future will be 'interesting'

[cyan lark]

I see what you did there and I hate it.

[chilly mural]

And it's only Early Febuary

There's still like 3 years and 10 month

[quasi hinge]

Not sure how legit this is by some us lawmakers are trying to allow him to get a third term lol

[cyan lark]

It's a stupid attention grab, but yes it was proposed.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5104133-rep-andy-ogles-proposes-trump-third-term-amendment/

[quasi hinge]

wild

[chilly mural]

So at least that, or until somehow he died at worst

Or somebody becoming Luigi

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-turn-sparkle-smile-happy-gif-6121405

[uneven cradle]

Goodies arrived

[chilly mural]

Yay, woot mod with Venom

[stone flax]

wooting 60he, pcb swap mod

🔥

[uneven cradle]

Na I got a spare case lying around, gfs using the 60he I'm on the 80he maybe this can replace my work keyboard

Just gonna be tray mounted for now until I get around to getting a new case or buying a gummy o ring

[ocean anchor]

what stabilizers should i get for jade pros or raws

[uneven cradle]

In at least the 3rd I know cam and thockfather have em too

[kind helm]

cam doesnt have venom yet

[rapid thunder]

What's up party people?

Does anyone know of any good silent switches by chance?

[fluid ravine]

naiceu-

[calm pulsar]

benom 60 he

[fluid ravine]

got a notification from dhl

[calm pulsar]

🙏

[fluid ravine]

"Clearance Delay" What dat mean

[calm pulsar]

delay of goods being cleared through customs

so they will be checked at customs for longer if i understand correctly

[fluid ravine]

[stone flax]

time to pay the big bucks

💔

[fluid ravine]

wait what 😭

my head is hurting worst and worst rn

i finna mald and bald

[calm pulsar]

what do you see when tracking the shipment? without sharing sensitive info ofc

[kind helm]

yea early i saw shipment information receive, for me usually that means the shipping company havent got the package

[fluid ravine]

this is the current status

and i got the email like 32 mins ago

[kind helm]

can you click the all shipment updates thingy

is the only thing there shipment information received?

[fluid ravine]

yh

[polar girder]

Yo that shit is useless

[kind helm]

i think they havent got the package ngl

or at least they havent update the status

[polar girder]

Mine says same thing and I have mine in hand

[fluid ravine]

i mean you may not be wrong here

[calm pulsar]

oh wtf lol

[fluid ravine]

when i got my RAW HE order

[kind helm]

thats wild. mine updates normally

[fluid ravine]

it says it was still in transition or wtv

[polar girder]

Like I check right now

And I have it in hand

[fluid ravine]

and i got my shit in a few hours

after like 2 days of ordering

[kind helm]

they even sent a message the day before they do the delivery for confirmation

[polar girder]

Yeah I got texts

[fluid ravine]

dafuq

texts?

[glacial wind]

dhl system is probably a bit of a mess right now with all the random customs stuff

[polar girder]

But DHL not updating

[fluid ravine]

i see

i have mine through email rn

[kind helm]

i think thats a gud guess

i think they probably paused some s44t incase things get stuck by the custom

[calm pulsar]

tracking probably tweaking cause of all trump shenanigans

[fluid ravine]

flip you trump

jkjk

just get me my shit pls

[kind helm]

i dont wanna be that guy but they maybe watching

[fluid ravine]

am desperate

IF YOU'RE WATCHING CAN I JUST GET MAH STUFF

[polar girder]

DM

[fluid ravine]

I HAVE BEEN BLESSED

Thank you for the people that put up with my shit holy FU

[chilly mural]

See? It gets better in the end

[tired jacinth]

How long did you wait for it?

Can't wait for mine either, so hyped ;D

[static tendon]

What is noramlly considered the best Wooting HE switch rn? Is it still Jade Pro's?

[sacred elm]

There is no best switch

[glacial wind]

there is a most spiritual switch though. The ttc poms bring you closer to god through spiritual enlightenment

[sacred elm]

I agree on that one

Actually poms can be considered "Best" because of almost no wobble

[static tendon]

That can also be said to Jade Max, but I had a bad experience with them

[sacred elm]

Jade maxes have way worse wobble than ttc koms

nothing comes close to them

[static tendon]

Fascinating

What makes the ttc poms a good switch? Just the reduced wobble they have?

[sacred elm]

This vid is from Turing,

TTC KoM Pom vs Jade pros

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984799440072220692/1337142106778763345/IMG_4650.mov?ex=67aafb61&is=67a9a9e1&hm=8380285f1f28777047164eab6c177daf30be92f8b1e441abbbbda2e53915aa45&

[quasi hinge]

Almost zero wobble, nice spring back and sound better than raws

[quasi hinge]

This is ttc magneto poms vs raws

[static tendon]

Is this the correct link? https://mechkeys.com/products/ttc-full-pom-magneto-magnetic-switches?variant=46440194736351

[quasi hinge]

Better site

Milk tooth

[static tendon]

They have some neat features but just because the housing isn't clear I'd personally skip out on them. Any other good switch to consider with a clear housing?

[sacred elm]

Wooting will sell them this week, their edition.

[quasi hinge]

https://milktooth.com/products/switches/pom-magneto

[quasi hinge]

These will have slightly higher force at 55

[quasi hinge]

These are ~48

[static tendon]

Oooo I much prefer the Wooting TTC POM switch over the originals

But still not clear housings

[static tendon]

Appreciate the direct link

[sacred elm]

Yea if you care about rgb, these will be better

[static tendon]

Yeah RGB is usually something I like to keep on for the keyboard

[kind helm]

which is the deeper one?

[quasi hinge]

This is 40% brightness in dark room

[quasi hinge]

First is ttc

[static tendon]

When I used the Jade Max, the RGB was insane

[sacred elm]

There is Ttc magneto rgb with clear housing, same switch wobble but sound wont be as clean as pom version

[static tendon]

I had 100% brightness going too

[static tendon]

I see what you're saying. All POM housing is pretty nice, I'll keep them in mind for now. Might be a switch I try out in the future

[kind helm]

the lubes gonna even out after a while, so the sound would change a bit over time. yea that sounds good

[quasi hinge]

Sound is bonus for me

These switches are amazing

Almost zero wobble and pops back

No mushiness

[kind helm]

long spring be snappy

[sacred elm]

https://milktooth.com/products/switches/rgb-magneto?srsltid=AfmBOoqUWEJQOAwMSHlm2x8ypCZQlH1Qqn21WmDVDhpU9fOpQWIWPsJE

[quasi hinge]

Maggy snappy

[sacred elm]

@static tendon

[kind helm]

i am still waiting on something better, raw with double stage 20+mm spring and a better bottom housing, and a reasonably priced ttc pom but not made wijth pom

[static tendon]

Appreciate the clear housing variant as well. Do these ever bind while typing on? When I used the Jade Max they had a very bad issue of binding and locking up mid type

[quasi hinge]

Bruh

They are so good

[kind helm]

that is a jade max issue

[static tendon]

It felt like they didn't properly get inspected before being sold those Jade Max switches

[quasi hinge]

I dont see how a switch can get any better other than color

[kind helm]

not normal :3

[quasi hinge]

Inherently bad design

I had 160 of them

Same material caused friction issues

[kind helm]

and luckily got refunded by gateron

[quasi hinge]

Plus sent me more as replacement lol

[static tendon]

Yeah I loved the all clear housing though. But the switches were not worth keeping especially not for the price

[sacred elm]

I doubt, jade maxes had issues with friction

[static tendon]

Oh dannnng the TTC switches are super light weight spring

[sacred elm]

@glacial wind rgb version is still smooth right?

[quasi hinge]

The wooting will be heavier

[kind helm]

better price

[quasi hinge]

Price, sound and/or color

But other than that they are hands down the best switch by far IMO

Super stable, no wobble fast spring back

[sacred elm]

That doesnt really matter, difference is like 5g

[quasi hinge]

Only downside is lubing them

[kind helm]

sound is a subjective thing, i personally care about wobble and smoothness more tbh. smoothness kinda come when a switch is broken in from what i understand, so mainly just wobble

[quasi hinge]

I predict people will compare

[quasi hinge]

Zero wobble on these

Its crazy

[static tendon]

I can agree with this as well. I'm using a Wooting not for the sound but for the performance it provides and the smoothness and reduced wobble is a W

[sacred elm]

im waiting wooting to drop them

[kind helm]

nah i care about sound, not a competitive player, i just know that if switch sound meh

"i can fix her"

[quasi hinge]

Same

[quasi hinge]

Then 100% get the TTCs

Either wooting or og

[sacred elm]

acktchwually 🤓 ☝️ wooting has better performance with ttc kom switches, there is almost no deadzone with them (0.03mm) compared to 0.15 with lekkers

[static tendon]

Even over Jade Pro's yeah?

[sacred elm]

with stable switches, you get less deadzone on wooting

[quasi hinge]

IMO nothing comes close

[static tendon]

Good to know, I'll have to see Wooting's release then

[quasi hinge]

When people use the ttcs, the other switches will be an after thought

[quasi hinge]

Any day now apparently

I think @sacred elm is waiting on them too

[static tendon]

What's your current wooting build?

[kind helm]

a day or two ago i think someone mentioned in a week

[sacred elm]

deadzone is non-registering space at the bottom

[static tendon]

@kind helm what are you running on your wooting rn as well?

[kind helm]

i dont run wooting :3

[static tendon]

Ah

[quasi hinge]

Im so glad you asked

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1332419975889289316

[static tendon]

Just chillin in this Wooting discord for funsies?

[kind helm]

my wooting is in a bag

[sacred elm]

Yes, waiting for wooting right now

[quasi hinge]

They will blow you away

I was shocked at the difference

[kind helm]

yapping here also sometimes new he switches and cases stuff mainly

[glacial wind]

yeah, although technically not as smooth as pom material wise, but I assume lubed it'd be fine

[quasi hinge]

Tried dont know how many different lekkers to ks 20s to raptors to jade maxs to raws

These TTCs have the midas touch

[sacred elm]

there you go @static tendon

[static tendon]

What is a CF plate?

[glacial wind]

have you ever touched a holy object?

[quasi hinge]

Carbon fiber

[static tendon]

Fascinating

[glacial wind]

cf plate is the closest thing we have to a sacred object of the gods

[static tendon]

Why choose a carbon fiber plate over something like a POM plate or PC plate?

[sacred elm]

sound and feel

[quasi hinge]

@static tendon it was sno over here that recommended the cf plate and ttc poms to me

[static tendon]

So you would prefer the stiffer typing feel?

[quasi hinge]

More firm for gaming

[quasi hinge]

For gaming yes

[sacred elm]

its just preference, some prefer soft plates, some prefer stiff plates

[quasi hinge]

But that is preference

[glacial wind]

cf plate = stiffer for less movement when gaming and also owning one can be used as a tool to gain enlightenment

[sacred elm]

im running fr4 on my 80he

[static tendon]

Interesting, I much more prefer a softer plate, I would have as much flex as possible but due to Wooting's design, it's not very achievable

But ofc this hobby is all preference. I get less finger fatigue when typing on softer plates, it's the biggest reason I went for a salvation case for my wooting

[quasi hinge]

What about lighter switches?

I used to get finger fatigue on the lekker 60s

[kind helm]

thackson's polyfill tofu probably the softest typing feel for wooting HE

[static tendon]

Sweet spot is around 48g-55g for me

[static tendon]

Lekkar60's are too heavy for my preference as well. L45's are also too light but I'd choose L45's over the L60's any day

[quasi hinge]

I was using 50g Raws before I switched to the 48g ttc magneto poms

[quasi hinge]

Same for me

[static tendon]

I have the original jades at the moment and have grown to like the spring weight, if anything I'd prefer them a smidge lighter

[quasi hinge]

L45 too light and L60 too strong for me too

[kind helm]

you can grab some spring from wooting if you want lighter

[static tendon]

I think Jades are rated at like 50gram spring weight if I remember correctly?

[static tendon]

Yeah but spring swapping takes forever

I've done it in the past

[sacred elm]

Jades are 30/50g

[quasi hinge]

If you get the ttc ones you will need to lube them

At least the OG ones

[static tendon]

They don't come factory pre lubed?

[quasi hinge]

Wooting may have better factory lube on the ones they will sell

[quasi hinge]

Barely anything, 100% they need to be lubed

[static tendon]

I typically avoid re-lubing switches. Not something I like doing

[kind helm]

which is criminal for the price

[quasi hinge]

Then wait for wootings

[quasi hinge]

Agreed but the end result is 11/10

[static tendon]

I feel like Wooting's variant of the TTC switches would have a better factory lube over the milktooth variants currently out

[quasi hinge]

Id agree

Id assume they would have that covered

[sacred elm]

Maybe it will be the same, we dont know

[static tendon]

Yeah i'm not exactly in a rush to purchase anything yet since I'm happy with my current build but I am always looking to test around with new parts

[kind helm]

whats your setup rn

[quasi hinge]

Definitely look at the ttc ones

[kind helm]

curious since you mentioned salv case

[quasi hinge]

Even if you get 5 pieces to try somehow

[kind helm]

nice i havent seen a white case build

[quasi hinge]

Nice build!

[static tendon]

Running the following:

GMK Synthwave
Switches: Jades
Case: Wilba Tech Salvation in Textured White
Module
PC plate

[kind helm]

definitely upgrade the switches to something else if you are on jade

[static tendon]

White appears to be a more rare color variant, I got my case off mechmarket

But Novelkeys had them in stock previously as well

[kind helm]

how much was it, it was in stock for a while

the b stock on novelkey was like 100 dolla

[static tendon]

Yeah I was thinking Jade Pro's or the TTC switches but I'll wait til wooting releases their version

[static tendon]

Regular A stock units would fluctuate in pricing but a good deal was around 160$ish for them

[kind helm]

me tried jade pro and raw on it. personally raw sounds nicer

[static tendon]

Lowest i've seen was 140$ I think, highest i've seen was like 255$

I got a black colored wilba tech salvation for 130$

A stock^

[kind helm]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[static tendon]

They're selling out in a lot of places rn though

[kind helm]

jade pro and raw on alu plate. sound kinda similar in recording because my setup for recording is ass

[static tendon]

B stock variants off novelkeys is RNG, you don't know what color you get

[kind helm]

yea someone here got one. pretty lucky, got a blue one with some imperfection on the inside

[little glen]

One other person got a basically flawless purple one

[kind helm]

here he is

[little glen]

I just woke up

[static tendon]

Yeah I was considering a B stock variant in the past but glad I was able to find an A-Stock unit in stock a couple days later

[kind helm]

yea i think 160 for a stock pretty decent, espeically white one i think, when i brought mine i saw some options were out of stock

[static tendon]

I don't think the Wilba Tech Salvation will restock once sold out either

[static tendon]

Yeah for sure, white one costs like 10$ more than the other colors for some reason

[kind helm]

maybe the finish was done differently but idk just yapping

[static tendon]

Yeah it was a E-coating vs the anodized options

@quasi hinge my setup^

[sacred elm]

😳

[kind helm]

everyone matches

beautiful

[quasi hinge]

Beauty!

[lapis raven]

that’s clean nice

but i have one question, is that screen below your main monitor with the time on it like an alexa or something ?

or does it literally only tell the time

[static tendon]

That’s correct, it’s Alexa and it does display the time but also can display options to turn on some of my lights which I do use it often for

[civic flame]

[lapis raven]

okay nice

i’ve got an alexa but not the screen version and she turns on/off my ac and lights when i ask

[quasi hinge]

I use philips hue for lighting

Just an app lol

[ruby hill]

https://geon.works/products/in-stock-frog-mini-leggera

anyone interested?

[little glen]

Sold out

Did it sell out immediately or has it not been in stock yet

I kinda want to pick one up tbh

[lapis raven]

yeah but cant control it with your voice have to pickup your phone, swipe up, click on the app, press the button

effort

[little glen]

Maybe buy another venom pcb to throw in there

[ruby hill]

I wanna know too

[little glen]

But also i dont need another venom

When i probably wont be using the one i have rn anyway

Maybe i put a different 60% pcb in my salvation

And put the venom in the leggera

[ruby hill]

Gh60 should fit wooting or any gh60 pcb

[fallen pecan]

ttc kom valentines edition

[stone flax]

2 dollars 14 cents ❤️

[lapis raven]

woah i want them

[fallen pecan]

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=885371213314

taobao link for those who use forwarders

$0.95 per switch

[sacred elm]

naaaah💀 @tropic urchin

[quasi hinge]

Im gna say the poms are probably still the best choice at that price point (IMO)

Unless you want heart switches lol

[glacial wind]

Oh same specs as rgb, so recolored rgb

[sweet oak]

@left depot i think youd like this

[chilly mural]

Cute

[tidal frigate]

2m is max

For pc to keyboard

No longer than 2m

Well you can

But you would lose warranty

Also if you want he switch to work, you need sensor to work

On pcb

You could move those non he buttons

On uwu

Uwu has six buttons

Oh you want combine multiple uwus?

Well in custom case

With powered usd hub

Definetly

What do you want to do

Controller to some trucking or space game?

[cyan lark]

I'd just grab a some mechanical switches since they simply open/close some metal contacts. Wouldn't cost much.

[tidal frigate]

Just little bit of soldering

[cyan lark]

Unless you actually want a keyboard output

Sure, the wooting isn't the right target, I'm just saying if all you wanted was some nice switches to press on a project you can still get that by getting some mechanical switches and soldering them up.

👍 godspeed

Switches are one of my favorite parts of electronic projects 😄

Gotta have a collection of weird ones just in case

[kind helm]

👀 what is the church of wooting truth?

[tidal frigate]

I know truth only truth...

[kind helm]

which is...

[sacred elm]

I dont think so

[stone flax]

lekker

[worldly phoenix]

I m excited

[cyan lark]

Why does the daughterboard have that header 😆

[sacred elm]

isnt that just jst cable and not daughterboard

[tidal frigate]

Truth is new wooting products are comming, one is very close Brother

[tropic urchin]

Holy shit Canada restock your alu plates LOCK THE FUCK IN

[sacred elm]

very close (2 years)

[sacred elm]

netherlands needs to lock in

im dead serious

[cyan lark]

Pretty sure it's the daughterboard + jst cable for folks that order the wooting module + gt-80

Module doesn't come with the daughterboard

[sacred elm]

module comes with a case

[cyan lark]

Correct

[sacred elm]

case comes with a daughterboard

[cyan lark]

Yes

Well, for the wooting case. gt-80 it's a $6 add-on.

[cyan lark]

Wait sorry, no module does not come with a case

Firing up work and conversing don't go well together apparently

[tropic urchin]

No pomegranate updates, this is going to be late late delivery

[sacred elm]

L

[cyan lark]

Hold out hope

[tropic urchin]

I didn’t get the Valentine’s Day switches, no love for me this week for early delivery

[tropic urchin]

Currently in faux NY (NJ) as of last update

[cyan lark]

Oh F

Yeah that's not coming today

[tropic urchin]

Which was yesterday morning, so anything can happen with a 9PM eta delivery

Not looking great tho

[cyan lark]

USPS or?

[tropic urchin]

Ye

[cyan lark]

Anything is possible, maybe it just missed a scan 🤞

[tropic urchin]

Most likely just not updated

But in my experience if it doesn’t say out for delivery in the morning you’re generally F-ed

But then again that’s for noon deliveries and not the devils hour for package deliveries

I can’t really play R6 anyway so it’s fine

[cyan lark]

Not without your pomegranates you can't

[tropic urchin]

Pomegranates won’t fix the fps drops in a 10 year old game

Only the fr*nch Canadians can

All I’m saying is I never had this issue with vulkan, but the infinite wisdom at Ubisoft decided to axe it for a super duper unoptimized DX12

[cyan lark]

DX12 is such a monkey's paw

[tropic urchin]

If the developers for R6 coded with their monitors turned on, I’m just saying maybe the game would be playable?

[cyan lark]

OW2 added DX12 in beta recently. Fired it up and yep, there's compilation stutters constantly in a competitive game.

[tropic urchin]

I have everything on low with a 4090 and i9-13900k and my fps just goes from 600 to 400 to 325 to 200 to 600 and it’s the choppiest shit imaginable

I can play marvel rivals in 4k at 240 hz with no issue, but a game from 2015? Nah

[cyan lark]

Dead game I know but I thought we all knew now that you have to precompile shaders especially if it's a competitive title.

Only option is to scream into the void I guess. Or play Rivals.

[tropic urchin]

Apparently they got rid of precompiled with vulkan for real time. Oh lord give me strength

[chilly mural]

Imagine getting $3k pc for a performance of 1.2k pc. Waow

[tropic urchin]

I cannot wait to shit on AC shadows so their stock drops into negatives

[tropic urchin]

Incompetency is king at Ubisoft

They care more about combating toxicity than having a playable game which says all you need to hear

[chilly mural]

Cant wait for the day

It all has build up to this moment

I hate ubisoft for putting in Gacha game ass rpg mechanic on a singleplayer game

[tropic urchin]

Yeah I can’t wait for shadows to go the way of Star Wars outlaw and their leadership gets walked out the door

[cyan lark]

I haven't played a big Ubi game in a while, what kinda gacha mechanics are in them now?

[tropic urchin]

As a part french person I disavow their company

[fluid ravine]

Ever since Geon announced abt the shipment thing on Feb 3, it's been exactly 1 week, but its been 21 days since I ordered

DHL picked up my shi early in the morning td

Now it's in transit and should be here tmr

[chilly mural]

Not the rng getting stuff kind, I mean like the enemy being bullet sponge and forces you to grind just for 100 more damage

[cyan lark]

Gotcha, thanks. I think the last big Ubi game I played was uh... Far Cry 3. Nothing has seemed very compelling since.

[tropic urchin]

Not missing out on much

[chilly mural]

It's fine. Last ubisoft game that I enjoy is watch dog 2

[tropic urchin]

Ubisoft is addicted to losing money, I’m dancing on their grave

[cyan lark]

Boy French on French anger is vicious

[tropic urchin]

They’re not a real company

[cyan lark]

Their smaller studios have done some good stuff though. Played Prince of Persia The Lost Crown this summer and it was incredible.

Of course they shut down that studio shortly after it was ported to PC 😢

[tropic urchin]

If they were committed to making even half way decent games, their stock wouldn’t be $2.23 per share

I hope their activist investor revolt leads to them selling off every IP under the sun

[visual ore]

TTC RGB

Oh I just realized that the chat was loading and that was a old message lol

Well if you're still wondering I have TTC RGB installed and can give a demo of the RGB if you like.

Going to swap over to POMS and a Carbon Fiber plate in the future once I get my GT-80 case.

[stable bay]

what are the differences between tofu 60 gen1 and gen2?

[austere creek]

tofu60 2.0 has a center usb port

[stable bay]

would u buy the gen1?

[fluid ravine]

Tofu v1 (discontinued) and Tofu Redux are compatible with the Wooting 60HE. Like Tony said, Tofu 2.0 is incompatible with the Wooting or GH60 layout as it's a whole different board with different mounting systems and different USB port placement.

[fluid ravine]

At this point if you're looking for a Tofu, go for the Redux, it's a revise version of the V1 after its discontinuation.

[stable bay]

Thanks, I want to buy a black tofu case which is sold out and my options are limited as im in germany

so i thought about ebay where some1 sold the gen1

[austere creek]

https://www.maxgaming.gg/de/cases/tofu60-redux-schwarz

its available though?

oh wait

they let you order but its not in stock

[stable bay]

yea i even send them an email but they have no date yet

[austere creek]

i see

well just make sure that its not a 2.0 if you have a 60he or any other 60% with a fixed port location thats not in the middle

[stable bay]

is there any other site like maxgaming no right?

[austere creek]

i dont think so for germany

[ionic breach]

keygem?

^ this is either eu or us iirc

[austere creek]

i didnt know keygem had tofu cases

[ionic breach]

oh nvm just checked

they dont anymore

[trail bane]

Aaaand now I’m busy for a couple of hours.

[tropic urchin]

Me whenever my TTC Poms arrive

[sacred elm]

Me whenever my TTC Poms arrive

[tropic urchin]

Wooting Poms for you Mr copy paste 🤓

[slender pollen]

are the wooting poms dropping this week?

[glossy pagoda]

I've already got mine

[sacred elm]

W

[chilly mural]

Pom Pom

[sacred elm]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[tropic urchin]

That’s why they haven’t been listed yet, mark is busy lubing his Wooting Poms 🤓☝🏻

[chilly mural]

all 12 of them

[stone flax]

venom buff 💪

[kind helm]

already updated i can lower raw's rt by 0.02mm without it having problem now

[orchid folio]

ngl has anyone found real world improvements for increasing the frame rate over 1k? even on the least performance hungry games i get max 500 fps so on 1k hz i get two refresh cycles per generated frame on my monitor lol

i kinda get it for mouse, maybe it picks up earlier on me changing the direction i move my mouse but for keyboard where its more of a binary key is pressed or key is not pressed i dont see it

[sacred elm]

Do you mean polling rate? No, for a keyboard it doesnt matter

[orchid folio]

oh yeah polling not frame rate

[kind helm]

over 1k fps

bro on that 5090

[orchid folio]

hahaha

[sweet oak]

One chunk minecraft

[sacred elm]

you must be inhuman to notice less than 1ms latency difference

[orchid folio]

i get 1000 in the range in valorant as long as i dont spawn bots

XD

[sacred elm]

also that depends on a game, maybe in rhythm games like osu you will get slightly better accuracy with 8khz

but difference is so small, it doesnt matter

[orchid folio]

oh yeah that could be a real application since you dont press keys depending on the picture generated but in rythmn

rhythmn?

[sweet oak]

Rhythm

[glossy pagoda]

Correct

[orchid folio]

idk how to spell that word, englando complicated

[chilly mural]

OOO YEAH... Now it needs sub 0.10ms

actually, looking again it's at sub 0.1

[kind helm]

did you also do the amazing wooting pcb mod where you swap your pcb to venoms

[chilly mural]

I don't own a 60he

I don't even know it exist pre wooting 80he

[sacred elm]

😳

[kind helm]

wait didn't i see you abusing a 60% board

[chilly mural]

[kind helm]

it was the 80he?

[chilly mural]

yes

[kind helm]

xD me blind mbmb

[chilly mural]

it's fine

[kind helm]

the orange color in your name tricked me, i blame trump honestly

[sacred elm]

orange

[chilly mural]

I get my special pre order role when woot announce woot numpad

[tropic urchin]

It’s a salmon color 💀

[kind helm]

idk man its a confusing color

not pink enough not red enough not yellow enough

[chilly mural]

maybe it's just your eyesight

it's getting old

[tropic urchin]

Unironic eye check moment

[sacred elm]

josh, congrats

you have been diagnosed with colorblind

[kind helm]

am i legally blind now

[tropic urchin]

Using benom too long degrades the eyes it seems

[sacred elm]

beon

[chilly mural]

Leon

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/bbg-leon-leon-kennedy-leon-s-kennedy-resident-evil-fortnite-gif-3631220157594091590

Leon style

[tropic urchin]

Oh lord

[cyan lark]

No movement on the poms?

[quasi hinge]

Oh they moving

Feel really good haha

Off to next game

[cyan lark]

Godspeed soldier

[tropic urchin]

Mouse pad check 👀

[fervent flint]

Just got my tofu60 redux 👀

[fluid ravine]

You?

Yall already know mine >:p

[tropic urchin]

No was a joke since as has leaky hands

[fluid ravine]

O

But what do you use

Am wondering

[tropic urchin]

Current pad is Raiden soft

[fluid ravine]

Wait that's a artisan pad right?

I forgor

[polar girder]

Yeah ofc

[tropic urchin]

Started with otsu mid, but the rough texture I was getting kinda tired of and tried Raiden mid and really liked it but was too fast, so tried Raiden soft when the new daidai orange color came out

[polar girder]

You should have entire artisan pad lineup memorized, bro

[fervent flint]

Is artisan the best pad producer?

[polar girder]

Yes

[fluid ravine]

My fault

[sacred elm]

Cloth yes

[tropic urchin]

Some of the best cloth I’ve tried

[fervent flint]

Not glass?

[polar girder]

They don’t make glass

[fluid ravine]

Thats a whole different topic

[sacred elm]

They dont have glass mousepads

[polar girder]

All g

[fervent flint]

They dont? xD

Dang

[sacred elm]

no

[tropic urchin]

You want wallhack or w/e the top one is

[polar girder]

I want to try a glass pad ngl

[fluid ravine]

I wanna try a artisan

[fervent flint]

I really need a new mousepad, the state of the one I have now is illegal

[fluid ravine]

It'd be cool

[ionic breach]

ye

[tropic urchin]

They’re really nice

[fluid ravine]

Fs

[ionic breach]

always hated the design

[sacred elm]

hop on raiden

[tropic urchin]

If you’re just using a default gaming pad it’s a huge difference

[ionic breach]

but pulsar just made a customisable one

[fervent flint]

I am lol

[fluid ravine]

I mean I really really enjoy my glass pad, got lucky with my qc shit based from other reviews

[polar girder]

I have a Saturn pro which is kind of an artisan lol

[tropic urchin]

Oh glass pad nvm

[fluid ravine]

But I've always wanted to try an artisan

[polar girder]

I needed 1000x500 so never tried artisan

[fluid ravine]

Does artisan do 500x500

?

[kind helm]

what mat you on rn?

[sacred elm]

500x490

[fervent flint]

An old steelseries cloth pad. It's sooo old

[polar girder]

Saturn pro XXL

[kind helm]

that is like a weird dimension 1000x500, i remember deskmat normally is like 900x something

[tropic urchin]

Their XXL is 500 x 490mm

[fluid ravine]

Workable

[sacred elm]

Everyone should try raiden once, shit is goated

[kind helm]

fancy

[fluid ravine]

I can see that haha

[tropic urchin]

Soft Raiden is my goat

[polar girder]

Yeah it’s boujie. I like it.

[sacred elm]

There is nothing smoother than raiden

[tropic urchin]

Mid Raiden is a little crazy

But I liked it

[fluid ravine]

What kinda pad is the Raiden?

[sacred elm]

speed

[tropic urchin]

Speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

[fluid ravine]

Someone gib me detaild

Mmmmm

Okok

[tropic urchin]

Fastest in artisan lineup

[fluid ravine]

How much is it here for the US?

[fluid ravine]

O I see

[sacred elm]

• shipping like 5$

[tropic urchin]

https://jpgamingusa.com/products/fx-raiden

[sacred elm]

if youre going for it get either mid or soft

[tropic urchin]

If you want daidai orange you’ll need to wait or buy it off Japanese site

[kind helm]

https://youtu.be/y7mCxC7033A?feature=shared&t=669

[tropic urchin]

Final total came out to be like $60 ish

[kind helm]

me trust this viscose lady

she really insightful for my peanut brain

[chilly mural]

soo much mousepad, fuwee, just decomplicate and get skypad, ez

[kind helm]

or a deskmat

[sacred elm]

"Its not really smooth, like other smooth mousepads"

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