🔧│keyboard_modding

[polar girder]

Killer combo but wanted a little bit better separation in sounds in CS2

I can pinpoint everything now NGL lol

[cyan lark]

Senn life is the way

I've used so many headphones and always return to my Senns

[calm pulsar]

560s were also a good upgrade for me, I can hear a lot of detail in tarkov now, and playing guitar through amp sims is super nice

[polar girder]

560s goated fr

Still want to try 560s on the new dac/amp before I sell them

[quasi hinge]

This is the way

[polar girder]

Happy to save some money if it is mostly the Element making the difference lol

[quasi hinge]

Im in your boat with this

[calm pulsar]

yeah there's a lot of variables with a sound setup

but the 490 pro are much more expensive, there must be something drastically improved

[polar girder]

It’s actually same driver as 560s as I understand it

Seems like it’s mostly build quality. Which is not something I care about cuz 560s actually more comfortable to me

But sound separation also supposedly better

Which is also true with the DAC/amp I got so gotta play around with it a bit

But so far the combo is sick

[glacial wind]

slowly but surely, the nation of ttc pom grows

our borders expand daily

[polar girder]

Yeah everything else is just mid

Need to save up those Ali Express bucks

Will probably make the jump once I order new plate and GMK Cosmos show up

Put it all together and be done for a bit lolzzz

[cyan lark]

Which plate?

[polar girder]

I’m torn between ordering a PP or Nylon plate for frog/venom combo

That’s what I was playing around with cuz I have plates for Wooting in three diff materials but don’t want to take my Wooting apart lol

[cyan lark]

Oh fun. Never even heard of nylon for plate material.

[tropic urchin]

It’s not too bad

[cyan lark]

I assume cause it's so beautified w/ the alien?

[polar girder]

Ultem is the new wave for all you CF/FR4 enjoyers

[polar girder]

https://youtu.be/f97IO2OcqaY

[cyan lark]

Hm, sounds alright. Kinda wish this comparison had some just normal typing section.

Hard to form much of an opinion with just varying slaps IMO. Looking forward to hearing it on your end.

[polar girder]

Bruh no

I hate pulling out switches

But whatever I think I just have to

Having an aneurysm trying to pick otherwise lol

[cyan lark]

Yeah just go w/ something. Not trying to mess with your head!

[polar girder]

I actually have two PP plates. One with current build and a spare. So it’s actually not that bad.

I can just pull it off then fuck around

Not tonight tho lol

Idk what UMHWPE even sounds like

I think it’s harder tho

I wonder about POM now with TTC POM tho lol

[tropic urchin]

Never too much POM

[cyan lark]

Pomodoro technique, pomeranian, pompei

I think I'm tapped

[thorn zealot]

if i want some quieter than raws i should get jade pros/masters over poms right

[cyan lark]

I don't think jade pros are particularly quieter than raws, and KoMs are definitely louder.

[thorn zealot]

some ppl told me that jade pros are slightly quieter

but i just wanted to make sure

[visual ore]

Koms are loud AF

[cyan lark]

🤷 I would say raws and jade/pros are about the same loudness

[visual ore]

I'm running all foam right now so the clack isn't overwhelming

But I 'm scared of once I remove it

[cyan lark]

At least in my personal experience

[thorn zealot]

actually i think its that jades pros are slightly deeper than raws

[cyan lark]

Sure, that I can agree with.

At the very least they're deeper than Jades

probably deeper than raws, haven't A/B'ed them

[thorn zealot]

i think thats what the slightly quieter comes from

il prolly get masters since they are essentially jade pros but cheaper from what ive heard

and to try some slightly diff

[tawdry tree]

2.0 or later iirc

for 8K

🙏

Tactility doesn’t come from springs but from switch design (tactile/click leaf), so the only way to get tactile or clicky HE switches is to buy them directly or to mod existing ones like the KS-20s which have a leaf slot.

[visual ore]

This just peaked my interest

Tactile HE switch after a mod eh

[tawdry tree]

Technically clicky and tactile after a mod but yeah

[visual ore]

Wait what

[kind helm]

partially why HE is fun is it has no leaf, throwing leaf in there just for tactility is so cope

[visual ore]

Clicky

[kind helm]

[visual ore]

Sadness again

[tawdry tree]

you can use the click leaf from Gateron’s previous switches in the KS-20s which makes them clicky and tactile.

[visual ore]

Yeah I see what you mean now

Nvm

I hate clicky lol

[kind helm]

i am actually hella happy right now, i know the other team is gonna dream about this game hehehehe

[tawdry tree]

The Jades with a click leaf are so fucking loud it’s insane

[fluid ravine]

im on a crazy losing streak rn

[kind helm]

i hate when they refresh the rank

[fluid ravine]

im at 9 actually

[visual ore]

Yeah my first clicky was the Wooting One Flaretech switches....

Never again

[fluid ravine]

lmaooo im cooked

[visual ore]

Sidenote these mechanical Wuque Heavy Tactile Switches are so loud

And I'm using them in a all foam keyboard because I liked the sound but it was too loud

What in the actual hell

[kind helm]

i am cooked too dw, i stopped playing for like 2 acts and now i dont know how to clear angles and its extra pain when you get people with drastically different skill level

i can get people that are plat1 and asc3 from last act in the same game, like bruh

[kind helm]

the box jade?

[tawdry tree]

regular, haven’t tried a click leaf in the newer jades yet

not sure if they even have the slot still

[glass comet]

would cablemod coiled cables work with the 60he since its under 2m

it shouldn’t affect tachyon mode right?

[static tendon]

What is your favorite gaming headset?

[steel ibex]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006079590597.html?src=google&pdp_npi=4%40dis!CAD!40.01!28.79!!!!!%40!12000035635785665!ppc!!! do i get scammed ifi buy this lmao

https://www.cerakey.com/products/full-set-v2?srsltid=AfmBOooA_1Q65t0NCNwx6Mp384Bn3qCOE4rOFcKlA8f4RXR7FCMZYR_S adn wil it be anything like

this

im guessing not

[polar girder]

Little upgrade sesh

[steel ibex]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008360048875.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.77223aadWrh5uc&algo_pvid=4cbd22f4-65f0-43ef-a9c0-2737d58cdf4d&algo_exp_id=4cbd22f4-65f0-43ef-a9c0-2737d58cdf4d-0&pdp_ext_f={"order"%3A"-1"%2C"eval"%3A"1"}&pdp_npi=4%40dis!CAD!71.51!25.54!!!356.14!127.23!%402101e07217389940148592103e6761!12000044715851490!sea!CA!0!ABX&curPageLogUid=8dV7JXQMcolU&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A also thuis lmao

listen im broke ok

[kind helm]

👅 KNOB

what is that

[polar girder]

My artisan

[kind helm]

no shit what pattern is that

[polar girder]

For cosmos

Idk

From Spooky Caps

I think that’s it

Idk my first and only artisan lol

[kind helm]

yeee idk i legit still cant tell what creature/object that is

[polar girder]

Idk he does a bunch lol

Just some random little face

Skull looking ahhhh

[kind helm]

yee its still nice though despite me not knowin tf that supposed to be xD

[harsh dove]

Nice , that the Element IV ?

[polar girder]

III mk2

got it used

And warranty transferred to me

Pretty slick

[harsh dove]

Ah nice

[kind helm]

these shit has gotten way too difficult

[harsh dove]

monke sports car solar panel

oh and the stirfry

oh nah that's PHO

[kind helm]

i just randomly guess its the ramen lookin thing

wait stirfry

wait pho?

[harsh dove]

yeah some ramen

with the eggs

[kind helm]

LMFAO

[harsh dove]

lmao

[kind helm]

man i want to go for some ramen rn

[ionic breach]

👀 same

[polar girder]

Now I’m hungry

[ionic breach]

[polar girder]

lol Jesus

Where’s the noodles and broth

[ionic breach]

behind the bowl lmao

[fallen pecan]

nothing wrong with a little window shopping

[fluid ravine]

I had ramen for dinner LMAO

Miso Ramen

[steel ibex]

:(

[steel ibex]

I'm canadian, what would be the cheapest place to buy Jade Maxes and a aluminum case?

[sacred elm]

dont buy jade maxes

[steel ibex]

why not?

[sacred elm]

because they are not smooth

they have friction issues

[steel ibex]

ah alr

so what would be the cheapest place to buy jade pros ig

[sacred elm]

probably aliexpress

[fallen pecan]

you're probably looking at 150~160cad for the case and switches

[near kestrel]

I'm beaming lube my keyboard, the blue rods of my switches or ya the magnetic part, I put them in a small pot, and they all stuck together it's okay?

[ionic breach]

yes its fine

[near kestrel]

Thanks

[cyan lark]

Never used a headset. Headphones though? Senn HD600.

[sweet oak]

560s my beloved

[lapis raven]

sundara's my beloved

[little glen]

Venom + salvation + gmk cosmos

Just used normal ansi us caps for now, will swap to international once i get back home and put these on the 80he

[quasi hinge]

Looks noice!

[little glen]

Considering this is my first build and first time doing stabs, they sound pretty nice

[cyan lark]

Gorgeous dude

How ya like the feel?

[sweet oak]

Edible

[little glen]

Its good but i havent really used it yet

Sounds good too

[untold wigeon]

does anyone get a weird feeling when the keycap is too heavy and the switch is too light

[little glen]

Fr4 plate, foamless

[untold wigeon]

it makes it feel less snappy

[little glen]

What keycap set do you guys think would go best on this case

I have these 2 and the cosmos

[ionic breach]

what switch?

[little glen]

I‘ll also try alu plate later on

[untold wigeon]

i have the lightest binned rawHE switch and i got new keycaps which are heavier than the last ones

and the return of the keys feel a bit slower

when its coming back up

[ionic breach]

imo its more of the length of the spring

raws' are short af

[untold wigeon]

whats the travel distance

between the lekker and raw

[cyan lark]

Try the white. I think white on blue looks great

[ionic breach]

spring length doesnt affect travel distance

[untold wigeon]

oh

[ionic breach]

springs are 15mm

[little glen]

Will do

[little glen]

first time typing on ansi layout feels weird

weird enter

[lapis raven]

ansi goated

iso weird

+iso has a tiny shift

[little glen]

i dont mind small shift

iso goated

[lapis raven]

nah + the tall enter have to reach MILES over to the other end to press enter

[little glen]

so good

[lapis raven]

i dont like it

[little glen]

must have been a nightmare to qc all the cosmos caps

these are really hard to read sometimes

[ionic breach]

https://www.reuters.com/business/trump-signs-order-delaying-tariffs-de-minimis-imports-china-2025-02-07/

what was the point of signing it

this and the canada mexico one

[little glen]

idk if i can get used to 60% for daily use but it should be nice when i am traveling

[little glen]

this mf really cant stick with any of his descisions

[lapis raven]

so glad i dont live in the US lmao

[ionic breach]

bro im pissed

and im not even a us citizen

[little glen]

buy now everything you can before they put the restrictions back up

[quasi hinge]

Also while prices are lower?

[quasi hinge]

Big trading partners slapping tariffs on each other might thin margins and so companies might raise prices in general to compensate, a possibility…

Not from the us either

[quasi hinge]

Also so much flip flopping, who knows

[floral vale]

Ordered 60x pcs of GEON RAW HE 40g :):) for my 60HE

[lapis raven]

yeah but money is money, dont really care for it

money doesnt dictate my happiness

[stone flax]

missing one?

[ionic breach]

which key are u sacrificing?

[stone flax]

for ansi

[sacred elm]

probably right shift

[ionic breach]

imo right alt

[sacred elm]

ive never used right shift lol

[carmine pelican]

you need 61 switches for the 60HE fyi

[visual ore]

Yup and people still voted for him like idiots

His thought process is "I don't like this thing get rid of it!!" And then it becomes "wait there are consequences?!?!"

Same with his voters

[cyan lark]

The disenfranchised are lied to about who their enemy is and are tricked into supporting efforts opposed to their own interests and well-being.

[floral vale]

62 (ISO) but I can do with 60. Aint gonna be buy separate 2 just bc

[quasi hinge]

Same lol

[chilly mural]

should be fine, could forgo the FN and the windows key

[floral vale]

prob enter and backspace

so I dont casually sneeze enter

[chilly mural]

👍

[calm pulsar]

you never press shift delete?

[floral vale]

Actually hmm does the calibration get fked if I have 2 diff switches with diff magnetic strengths

[tropic urchin]

for the magneto pom crew do you get a little switch container

[cyan lark]

Silver lining: dog

(not included with purchase)

[tropic urchin]

I got two other puppers (Rottweiler lab and pitbull lab mixes), but praise doggo

RIP bag but i guess it will have to do

Wrong channel, but dog tax for those interested

[cyan lark]

Correct channel and thank you

[visual ore]

Its a good bag though

I put the switches in a box and the bag is my lube bag now

[ionic breach]

damn da hell

[visual ore]

.... That wasn't worded well

[ionic breach]

they chargin a dollar a switch man

[visual ore]

Yeah it's expensive

They also had a $2 version for New Years

[tropic urchin]

Snake CNY GMK switches

[cyan lark]

Could be milktooth bagging them, dunno

[visual ore]

I prefer bag over the cylinders tbh

[quasi hinge]

I think so

[tropic urchin]

it arrives monday but im impatient and want it now

smh

[sacred elm]

nah

[calm pulsar]

I got mine in a plastic container

[chilly mural]

looks nice

[calm pulsar]

with a little switch puller too

[quasi hinge]

Which vendor?

[calm pulsar]

lemme check

[sacred elm]

imagine not getting switch container

[calm pulsar]

seems like the official store

[calm pulsar]

i got mine in this

[sacred elm]

Mark, where poms -_-

[calm pulsar]

@quasi hinge

[cyan lark]

🙌

[quasi hinge]

I got mine off of milk tooth forget the name lol

The milk store

[calm pulsar]

yeah milktooth

[quasi hinge]

All look good so far, at least for me

[tropic urchin]

i will ping mark so he makes sure you get a bag

[calm pulsar]

or 90 switches in a paper letter

[tropic urchin]

thats diabolical

after batch 1 no way warehouse treats that right

[sacred elm]

💀 💀 💀 💀

actually my batch1 package was lucky

even switch container

W

[calm pulsar]

btw the container seems to be for pack of 70, it could be that 90 always gets the bag

on ttc end, not sure whatll be on wooting

[little glen]

p sure the lekkers come in a container

[sacred elm]

wooting always had containers

even for 90pc

[tropic urchin]

i guess they just want TKL enjoyers to have more microplastics smh

[calm pulsar]

ic ic
my lekker v1s came on a wooting 60he so I didn’t have the container experience

[sacred elm]

lekker v1

[calm pulsar]

I still keep a bag of them to compare

[sacred elm]

yea i also have them

atleast 100pc 💀

[steel ibex]

whats the idfference between a redux case and a non redux case?

[sacred elm]

do u have CHEATER SWITCHES

[little glen]

the difference is that you shouldnt buy either and get an rng salvation instead

https://novelkeys.com/collections/keyboards/products/random-wilba-tech-salvation

[calm pulsar]

lol it was the raptor video right?

[sacred elm]

YE

[calm pulsar]

the guy surely meant that we cheat on lekkers by buying other switches

[sacred elm]

[steel ibex]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008092430511.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.6.2e0fhgLFhgLF70&algo_pvid=7da7ace7-0cd1-4349-8c29-f48767f4469c&algo_exp_id=7da7ace7-0cd1-4349-8c29-f48767f4469c-5&pdp_ext_f={"order"%3A"150"%2C"eval"%3A"1"}&pdp_npi=4%40dis!CAD!16.23!8.31!!!11.09!5.68!%40210312d517390333230375560e2327!12000043687442160!sea!CA!0!ABX&curPageLogUid=nuWinANs2BsU&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A yay or nay?

[cyan lark]

It's not a good deal as stated. They're $8/10 direct from gateron or from milktooth.

[steel ibex]

https://candykeys.com/product/gateron-magnetic-jade-pro-switch

what if i buy 61 of these

[stone flax]

can wooting get a feature like this

[kind helm]

thats funny af

the presets are probably copied from wooting too

[sacred elm]

wtf is this

[cyan lark]

I'd support it if instead it was cute animal sounds

[stone flax]

they got voicce lines

😭

[kind helm]

first one says "preset is good, but dont smurf in games"

[steel ibex]

and alsdo how much luibe do i need lmao

[kind helm]

second one says "right right right, this is absolutely correct"

LMAO i can't

[visual ore]

So I was just checking my lube job on my TTC POM and just discovered something. Make sure to check your TTC switches for a loose diffuser.

It was cause a rattly sound profile for that one switch that I find.

[kind helm]

just do what mr arc did and remove them

[visual ore]

So far only one out of a batch of 100 though

[kind helm]

(but of course he doesn't use rgb)

[visual ore]

Honestly good point

I might just do that

[steel ibex]

actually for me its cheaper

do i pull the trigger?

[cyan lark]

Sure.

[steel ibex]

say less fr

poron pe or eva foam?

[quasi hinge]

Looks legit, check the reviews

[ionic breach]

candykeys is legit yea

they have been here for a while

[steel ibex]

im not talking abt candykeps

inm talkin abt uh

keypro

sot

store

on aliexpress

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/910340167

[ionic breach]

oh lmao

my bad

[steel ibex]

also no way i get scammed buying poron foam right

what material is ideal for a deep sound?

[quasi hinge]

Hmmm

Looks good

[steel ibex]

alr time wto pull the trigger

imma tape mod lube em up and holee mod them at some point in the nexdt 2 weeks i think

[polar girder]

@little glen you build Cosmos?

[steel ibex]

ok i have a decision to make either i buy a new mousepad and a new mouse orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I do the funny and buy switches and some foam

[lapis raven]

what mouse do you currently have ?

[polar girder]

What’s your current mous/pad

[steel ibex]

hyperx pulsefire haste

wireless

[steel ibex]

legion xl

[lapis raven]

wired mouse /????? in current year ??

[kind helm]

OP1 8k user is offended

[lapis raven]

or is it wireless ?

[little glen]

yep

[steel ibex]

pulsefire haste wireless

[little glen]

i posted it earlier

[steel ibex]

sry shouldve clarified

[little glen]

tho the pics dont really do it justice imo

[lapis raven]

ah okay

[steel ibex]

idk i think its a pretty good mouse I was gonna buy a used vaxee pa and used x3 attawck shark if not

its either i buy those or i buy funny switches

[lapis raven]

it really comes down to whatever you feel like you can improve in your setup

[little glen]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message @polar girder

[carmine pelican]

what makes the salvation case better than the tofu?

or is it just aesthetics

[cyan lark]

Leaf spring mounting

[carmine pelican]

ah alright, thank you

[kind helm]

not better, different

tofu is good

[carmine pelican]

yea i have a tofu myself, so was just curious

[cyan lark]

Yeah I just assumed they meant what's different

[kind helm]

salv has a bit more reverb and its typing feels slightly softer

compare to tofu

[little glen]

also doesnt look as boring as tofu

[carmine pelican]

yea thats exactly what i meant😅

[cyan lark]

If you get it in decimated copper 🙂

[steel ibex]

I think I can afford both the switches and the mousepad my mouse is fine for now

And maybeeee some foam

The fact that foam costs 10$ for what’s probably costs less a dollar to make makes me sad tho

[lapis raven]

do you not have any foam you could repurpose ?

[polar girder]

Excited

[kind helm]

yea i dont want bro to feel like salv is an upgrade

[little glen]

josh did you see my salv build

i finally got all the stuff for it

tho i am currently using fr4 plate (i will also try alu later once i made sound tests)

[chilly mural]

Goated feature, should be a desktop app thing where it plays a pre configured sound when you change profile

[knotty iron]

the keyboard of all time

[kind helm]

sure

[kind helm]

best typing feel is no typing feel at all

[little glen]

the more i look at my gmk cosmos the more i like it

[knotty iron]

no overthinking it

[kind helm]

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[polar girder]

@calm pulsar yo do you have Geon pingless springs?

Or anyone else with TTC Pom

Curious about that combo

[kind helm]

highly doubt its worth trying

geon pingless spring is pretty short, while ttc pom is i think 20+mm

[polar girder]

That’s not what I asked

[kind helm]

:V sry yapper be yapping again

[cyan lark]

Is a yapper one who yaps, or like a mouth? Or is it contextual? Or am I overthinking this and should stop yapping?

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yap-gif-1951157753415854637

[tropic urchin]

I could give it a try, but I’m probably going to stick to default springs

Assuming it’s for feel over sound?

[polar girder]

Yeah

Just to experiment

[steel ibex]

I mean like switch foam and stuff

And pc or Pom plates

[young current]

what are the best ways to make my wooting 60 sound better without changing the case?

[cyan lark]

Changing the switches

[knotty iron]

friction fit, check case compatibility

[knotty iron]

this too, also perhaps using different plates

[cyan lark]

And by "better" these are of course just different

[young current]

are the gateron jade/jade pros still one of the best sounding and lightest switches? do they also come pre lubed or does it depend on where you buy it?

[cyan lark]

Pros are quite good. They are pre lubed.

[young current]

thanks!

[sacred elm]

apparently ttc switches use different diameter springs, not sure if geon or any other spring is fully compatible

have to test it out when they arrive

[tropic urchin]

I think turing said the L45s worked so figure they should be fine but prob will suck

prob gonna use default on em

but will try geon to see how different it feels on a spare

[cyan lark]

I put a few L45 springs in KoM POMs, yeah. Didn't actually use it like that, but it felt just fine. Doubt there would be an issue.

[sacred elm]

default springs should be good, theyre light and 22mm, if wooting actually changed spring weight thats good

[cyan lark]

I honestly didn't feel much of a difference, but I had a slight preference for the feel of the original spring, so I reverted.

[sacred elm]

im ordering them from wooting as soon as theyre available

[cyan lark]

I am tempted to swap out my 60HE with them now that the board is quieter in the salvation vs standard tray mount. Will see what the wooting collab is like, or maybe wait for the next hotness 🙂

I do like them though. Swapped WASD for them on my 60 at least.

[sacred elm]

I sold my 60he with jades today 😆

I wasnt using it at all

[cyan lark]

Smart move then 🙂

[sacred elm]

oh you gonna order lekker poms?

[cyan lark]

Maybe, I wouldn't hate to have a set for my 60, but like I said I'll make a game day decision. Jade Pros are still quite nice, and with poms on WASD I'm already getting most of what I want anyway.

[sacred elm]

I have to pull raws when poms arrive, that kills me

[cyan lark]

If there's some surprise significant difference (other than the color downgrade, come at me) that would help sway me, we'll see.

[cyan lark]

I'll pour one out for you. Hope you don't lose too many of them in the process.

[sacred elm]

previously i broke clips on 11 raws

[cyan lark]

That's probably about where I'm at

[polar girder]

L45 springs not that sweet tho

[sacred elm]

wdym

[polar girder]

Like they’re just basic lightweight springs

[tropic urchin]

geon 42s are a little smoother imo

[polar girder]

Curious

[polar girder]

I bought l35 and have l45 springs and preferred some cheap AE two-stage springs

[sacred elm]

i havent tried two staged springs, but l45 on just wasd is nice

[carmine pelican]

Are the pcr abs/zinc top and bottom parts of the 80HE cases interchangeable?

like if you wanted a PCR top, with a zinc bottom

[little glen]

not possible unfortunately

[carmine pelican]

how come?

[little glen]

plastic uses clips to hold the case together

zinc does not have clips

[carmine pelican]

so even if i tried to brute force it, it wouldn't work?

[little glen]

dont think so

[carmine pelican]

like removing the clips from the top PCR case (rip warranty)

[little glen]

at least there is no official support and every time someone asked about it they said no

[ionic breach]

i believe someone did it

cant recall who tho

[sacred elm]

what box?

nah these titles are so cringe

[little glen]

hitbox is a controller for specific fighting games

[sacred elm]

alright

[carmine pelican]

I ordered Deng god switches because of this guy (said they were better than raws)

[sacred elm]

you should never trust this guy

[carmine pelican]

then ordered raws like a week later, after doing a little more research

[sacred elm]

he probably has one of the worst takes of all time

[kind helm]

i just recently saw a really good video on hitbox

[tidal frigate]

Anyone has raeds?

[kind helm]

a lot of juicy history about that thing appearently

[carmine pelican]

I mean switches are still personal preference, so I still wouldnt fault the guy

[kind helm]

shafie is edgy

[sacred elm]

says josh

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-awful-couple-date-youre-both-just-awful-gif-17855957

😉

[carmine pelican]

100% my fault for buying deng gods, when his video is literally the only vid on youtube showcasing them

[kind helm]

yea i think you shouldve looked at the history of this chat

mr varedis has them

[carmine pelican]

I wasn't in this server when i ordered them

[kind helm]

unlucky

[little glen]

i have so many raws

[proven wadi]

@hede that guy also said the lucifer he switches was nice. I tried them at friends house and geon lucifer is pure ass 🙂

[sacred fox]

Anyone know how to fix my keycap from being stuck. I changed the switch and keycaps. Everything else is fine but the same two keys that are opposite on the board wont come back up when pressed down

[sacred elm]

I didnt lie.

[cyan lark]

80HE, stabilized keys?

[sacred fox]

60he +

and yes

The stabilisers

Two of them

The other stabilisers are fine tho just these two

[kind helm]

is it just slow?

[cyan lark]

Are they getting actually stuck or just slow to return?

[sacred fox]

Just stuck

Wont go back up

[kind helm]

try spamming it

[cyan lark]

Try evening out the key by pressing on both sides at the same time

Might be that it got see-sawed if you're using shorter throw switches

[kind helm]

by spamming it i mean you gotta manually pull it back up :3

[kind helm]

nah wont get stuck that way

probably just way too much lube

[sacred fox]

I havent lubed these keys

I tried a few on the top row figured i coulsnt be bothered spending hours rn and id do it at a later date

[kind helm]

i think stock may still have that, some people came in with new keeb also had that

[cyan lark]

You didn't mess w/ the stabilizers at all?

[sacred fox]

No nothing

Do i need to remove them maybe clean it? Maybe too much lube from fac but that just doesnt sound right

[cyan lark]

You did put a switch back on those slots right?

[sacred fox]

Yes

[cyan lark]

Ya never know 🙂

[sacred fox]

The magnetic jade switches

Theyre in dw

Tried a different switch and same thing

So i assume has to be stabilisers?

[kind helm]

probably shouldnt do that if you dont have lube at home

[sacred fox]

I do have lube

[kind helm]

well yea then just open it up check whats going on and fix it :3

[cyan lark]

Do the keycaps look tilted? I did just test on my 60HE and can get a stabilized key to stick down if I see-saw it wildly enough.

[sacred fox]

They dont look tilted no

[kind helm]

i want a vid

that s44t nutty

[cyan lark]

Do I have to? I don't lie like ever unless it's for money.

[kind helm]

nah i am just curious

no one ever has to do anything

[kind helm]

thanks

i legit never had one set of cap that can do that

[cyan lark]

Don't get me wrong that wouldn't happen in regular use

[kind helm]

oh yea that is why i would say geon spacer/ long pole stab is not necessary

but of course nice to have : 3

[cyan lark]

Yeah I have some long poles on order but just cause it'd be nice to rid myself of knowing that that's a potential issue.

[harsh dove]

Me neither

[little glen]

i dont even have that issue

[cyan lark]

The worms in my brain and all

[harsh dove]

but most of my caps are GMK so

[little glen]

with knight v2 idk

or is it cause i have gmk caps

[kind helm]

nah you are different

exactly

[cyan lark]

These are GMK

[kind helm]

LOL

[harsh dove]

Weird

[steel ibex]

does 60he+ come with l60 v2 switches?

[little glen]

man these cosmos are hard to read haha

but they do look great

[kind helm]

but i have some cheap sets and i can't do that either, i have like 3 different cheap pbt sets

[cyan lark]

I hope I didn't make a mistake getting bullied into cosmos 😆

[kind helm]

maybe pbt is more stiff than abs though

[little glen]

not really a problem on keys that have large/bold legends but anything smaller than normal kinda gets lost a little

[little glen]

it looks great dont get me wrong

and i dont really need the legends that much so not that much of an issue

[kind helm]

man oh man

[little glen]

i should have gotten the salvun cap

[cyan lark]

Sure, I guess I'll keep telling myself that I'll only use them on my 60HE which I really only use for gaming anyway. :cope:

Yeah I love the look of that salvun too

[kind helm]

salvun cap for black salv case sounds good

[cyan lark]

I was tempted

[kind helm]

but i dont have that kind of money

160 for a set is WAY TOO MUCH

[little glen]

i have it on my venom rn but i will definitely move it over to my 80he

[tidal frigate]

Me who bought 2x gmk set Well...

[harsh dove]

Casually abusing my keyboard for yall

[little glen]

me who bought 4...

[cyan lark]

Might be alright for my personal 80, but I can't program w/out being able to see symbols. Don't have them all memorized.

[little glen]

typing like a true osu player

[tidal frigate]

@harsh dove are you getting raeds?

[cyan lark]

Short pole and everything?

[sacred fox]

Ive taken the stabiliser out, wiped it, relubed it but not alot. And its still stuck

[harsh dove]

yeah standard stabilizers

no long pole

[tidal frigate]

More like league player

[harsh dove]

no spacers

[little glen]

i'll learn it the hard way

[kind helm]

can you do a pic with just the pcb?

with the cap that is stuck

[tidal frigate]

How old are you

[sacred fox]

Like take all the keycaps out and leave the keys that are stuck?

Dont have a screwdriver to remove the pcb out

[kind helm]

nah nah dont need to, just without putting it in the case

[harsh dove]

maybe

[cyan lark]

I have responsibilities T_T

[kind helm]

there was a guy whose plate was tilted

[sacred fox]

I dont follow sorry, should i remove all the keys apart from the two that are stuck?

[kind helm]

you dont need to

[tidal frigate]

I would like to hear proper sound test

[kind helm]

just take the pcb out of the case and check if the plate is tilted

[sacred fox]

I dont have a screwdriver is the issue atm, so csnt tske pcb out

[cyan lark]

Even on my 80, GMK, geon spacers + short pole 🤷

[kind helm]

i think bro has mad finger strength

[cyan lark]

I have been working out 😏

[harsh dove]

wtf lol

[little glen]

i never had this issue how do you reproduce it so easily

[cyan lark]

Gorilla str

[harsh dove]

Yeah I was pressing uncomfortably hard in my video

I mean you can hear my desk when I smash it

[cyan lark]

Frame this message 😆

[kind helm]

yee just check and make sure that the stem of the stab can go up and down normally

[harsh dove]

your video makes it look so easy tho

mine won't even lift off the stem

[cyan lark]

Farmer's walks my dude

[tropic urchin]

the ultimate test is the tab and caps lock keys

[harsh dove]

fr

[cyan lark]

Those aren't stabilized though?

If I get those to see-saw it's cause I broke the switch 😄

[harsh dove]

yeah you mainly just wanna check the large keys like right shift and spacebar

that's where its most common

[tropic urchin]

i mostly just wanted to see how exaggerated it would get compared to stab keys

[kind helm]

cap would break first most likely which is not gud

[tropic urchin]

since those two are my most wobbly

[cyan lark]

Note I can only recreate this on the right Shift in particular on both boards.

Space, left shift, and bs all have no issue 🤷

[harsh dove]

right shift is cursed

[cyan lark]

Honestly, probably

[sacred fox]

Right shift snd left shift for me

[kind helm]

7U user chilling

imagine needing to do 5 stabs for a keeb built

cant relate

[little glen]

just did that today

wasnt that bad tbh

i hope these stabs hold up tho

[sacred fox]

Is there anything i can try to unstuck these two shift keys

The pcb doesnt look bent

[kind helm]

can they go and down normally without the cap on?

[sacred fox]

The switch or stabiliser?

[kind helm]

like pinching the stem with your finga and pulling it up and down

the stab

switch is fine right since you tried to use a different one and its the same issue

[sacred fox]

Yea switch is fine

[sacred fox]

Idk what you mean honestly, if its like the black stabiliser thats showing. That wont move anywhere

Down or up

[ionic breach]

the inside part of the stabs

[sacred fox]

Wait yea i see the issue idk how tf to fix that tho

[kind helm]

take a pic

stem is that little thing in red

circle

[sacred fox]

That wont move up or down

The stabiliser

Just sits there

[kind helm]

take it out see if you can make it go up and down with just the stab

[sacred fox]

Okay

It doesnt

Wait no

Its doing it

[kind helm]

check underneath if the wire is inside the stem

[sacred fox]

I can move it up and down whilst its out

[kind helm]

both side or just one side

[sacred fox]

Both but one side does it easier

[kind helm]

is it just sticky difficult or its like stuck difficult

[sacred fox]

Sticky i think

Needs force to go

But does it

[kind helm]

the wire is in there right

[sacred fox]

Yea

[kind helm]

this part

[sacred fox]

Hep

Yep

[kind helm]

put it back into the plate again, and check if it is pressed down all the way

both sides should sit flat on the plate

[sacred fox]

I gor it

Got

I think the part with a + just was damaged or something

But they gave like spare ones

And i tried one and it worked

[kind helm]

thats new

unlucky

but glad it worked

[sacred fox]

Good i got spare or i wouldve cried

Now for the other one hopefully js the same ossue

Issue

[cyan lark]

So the pole was just faulty? Had to go away for a few

[sacred fox]

Thank you for the help, managed to get them both working again

[thorn zealot]

is there a diff between these wires and any other wire

or no

[chilly socket]

has someone orderd the raw he from geon works? how long does the shipment take usually

[tidal frigate]

Interesting definetly Interesting sound profile

[cyan lark]

Those are the raeds?

[kind helm]

probably depends on where you are

[harsh dove]

TTC POM

[cyan lark]

That makes more sense

[polar girder]

Quick AF

ships DHL

[polar girder]

What plate?

[harsh dove]

Carbon Fiber

[polar girder]

Nice

Yeah sounds great

Sweet setup too

Dig it

[harsh dove]

Just got $14 off my Raeds switches somehow

[polar girder]

lol cuz no one buying them

[harsh dove]

Guess I had store credit with Omnitype or sumn

[polar girder]

Oh nice

[harsh dove]

105 switches for $60

[cyan lark]

That's a sharing size

[polar girder]

Not bad

[harsh dove]

actually $55 for 105

my bad

[kind helm]

what you building for 105 switches sir

[harsh dove]

Well they only come in packs of 35

so I had to get 3

or just 2 if I want enough for 60%

but If I want to try them in 80HE i need 3 packs

https://omnitype.com/collections/switches/products/raeds-he-switches-1

[languid kestrel]

are these gonna be available in the EU

[tropic urchin]

those switches are unholy looking

[kind helm]

there was a link for eu i think

[harsh dove]

https://www.antipode.studio/products/raeds-he-switches

[languid kestrel]

that's not EU

[harsh dove]

oh

Ah yeah its norway lol

[languid kestrel]

yeah kinda the worst place to do business from honestly

not part of literally any proper economic area and far from everything

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

[languid kestrel]

I'll have to pay tax no matter what but it'd just be more convenient if someone had imported them for me

so waiting on someone to stock them in EU

I'll check in here again later

[harsh dove]

Yeah if anything pops up I'll ping you

Was looking rn for ya but can't seem to find any EU based stores with them rn

[kind helm]

there were like 2 links mentioned when the switch was shown here, one omnitype and the other one is seu i think

but me too lazy to look for it

[harsh dove]

Keyboard Treehouse has em but I think that's AU

https://keyboardtreehouse.com/collections/all/products/raeds-he

[polar girder]

Makes me want TTC POM ngl

[languid kestrel]

yeah it's unfortunate, keyboard treehouse seem to be the other one but AU -- moreover I really wish they weren't with a 45g dome, little too light

[kind helm]

theres like partner vendors in the page

https://prototypist.net/products/in-stock-raeds-he-switches-35-pack UK

[harsh dove]

yeah a heavier option would be nice

[languid kestrel]

which is not EU

[kind helm]

yea

[harsh dove]

ah yeah missed that

[languid kestrel]

[kind helm]

they quit

xDD

[languid kestrel]

maybe if it takes off they'll come out with a ~55g version to match the obvious topre dome counterpart

[harsh dove]

this has keebtape and polyfill btw

[harsh dove]

Yeah hopefully

[polar girder]

What’s keeb tape

[cyan lark]

Fancy tape mod

[kind helm]

its like painter tape mod but more fancy

[polar girder]

Ah

Yeah I thought tape mod kind of just made it pop more and little louder. But everyone seems to say opposite

Tape mod has me confused lol

[kind helm]

huh opposite?

[cyan lark]

$0.50 worth of tape and you can find out for yourself 🙂

[kind helm]

i mean it is kinda weird because different layers it behave differently

[cyan lark]

I took it off and didn't A/B it so I'm not sure how to describe it. Definitely changed the sound though.

[polar girder]

Well ive used moleskin

[harsh dove]

Imo it does make it pop more and louder

but the moleskin I kinda feel the opposite

Or at least with moleskin I feel like its poppier but deeper

[polar girder]

Yeah I kinda likes it but it felt louder

[harsh dove]

I never tried using regular painters tape so I have no opinion

[polar girder]

So I ditched it

[harsh dove]

I've just done keebtape and moleskin

this is my first time trying tape mod again in awhile

ended up liking how it sounded on this build

[polar girder]

Yeah overall it sounds great

[harsh dove]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[polar girder]

Nice work

[harsh dove]

Here's a comparison video

one is stock case foam, no tape mod, no polyfill

the other is with tape mod and polyfill

[tropic urchin]

@marsh saffron I may try out the new beastx pro magnesium lineup

[visual ore]

I'm assuming CF plate and TTC KOM?

[surreal lynx]

i bought switches and i forgot to get a switch puller

:DDDDD

[tropic urchin]

get the wuque studio titanium one

W puller

[slender pollen]

ordered the 60 he module and aluminaze case. i have a set of key caps but need some switches. i currently have nk creams and like those. is there something similar to that in an HE switch? also any other items you guys would recommend for my keyboard?

[marsh saffron]

Do let me know your thoughts if you do

[stone flax]

no

[marsh saffron]

I won't be ordering mine for a while

[tropic urchin]

im thinking of getting this with solid sides should be sick

i think its listed at 39g does solid sides push the weight significantly?

[marsh saffron]

Not sure

[harsh dove]

POM

[marsh saffron]

I'm guessing maybe 4-7g

[tropic urchin]

im thinking the tech is keeping holes

[marsh saffron]

I'm pretty sure I'll be going with the pure white one

[tropic urchin]

only because it will force my hand in a certain grip

i think i have to

[visual ore]

I just got a friend to put the Wooting on the list thanks to your video lol @harsh dove

[marsh saffron]

This is my gripe with it

I have too much variability in my grip

[harsh dove]

wym lol

[tropic urchin]

makes sense

[harsh dove]

like they're gonna buy one?

[marsh saffron]

I like the grip it locks my fingers into but it also restricts when I want to use those other grips

[tropic urchin]

I HAVE to have it like that just so my hand doesnt get uncomfortable trying to do weird shit

[visual ore]

They're considering it

[tropic urchin]

since its a smol mouse

[harsh dove]

Ah okay lol

[marsh saffron]

Yeah my hands are comfortable doing said weird shit

[harsh dove]

[visual ore]

They also like the Frost Case lol

Which I was showing off at the time

[cyan lark]

Ooh that purple mouse would really pair up with my salvation case

[marsh saffron]

Love my lilac beastx mini

But the all white is the move I think for my next one

[tropic urchin]

I deadass kinda wanna try the strider, but idk if i can get used to having it be so much lower to the ground by the L/R mouse buttons

[marsh saffron]

Yeah that's my problem with it too

It just looks too short

[tropic urchin]

it does

I love the mayan design to it which is a shame bc aesthetically its a really cool mouse

[marsh saffron]

I'm still unsure whether I want to go max or regular

When I get the pro

[tropic urchin]

is there going to be a beast x max pro or am i reading something that isnt there

[marsh saffron]

I thought they were doing it for all beastx mice

If not then regular sized it is

[marsh saffron]

Nvm no max pro

Regular it is👍

[tropic urchin]

stormbreaker cf is going to be my daily driver and beast x pro new FPS with viper backup

kinda hyped to try magnesium

[marsh saffron]

I love it

[tropic urchin]

as an FPS addict i might have to get it then

[marsh saffron]

Completely negates the fragility of having a lightweight non solid shell mouse

My beastx mini has less flex then my gpx and all my lamzus

Granted the gpx is junk

[tropic urchin]

10-15 day shipping 💀

time to be victimized by gateron shipping

@marsh saffron I will let you know my first impressions once in a blue moon whenever this shit ships

[marsh saffron]

i cant imagine it being bad

but definitely let me know how you like it

[tropic urchin]

im kinda scared tbh

[marsh saffron]

knowing our hands are basically the same size is nice

[tropic urchin]

39g is just ridiculous

[marsh saffron]

its a big jump but it feels so good

idc what anyone says lighter IS better

[tropic urchin]

If it wasnt magnesium i probably wouldnt have gotten it, but it kills two birds with 1 stone

[tropic urchin]

i kinda agree, my SB CF is 45g in DAV3 shape and its like a paper weight

magnesium 39g is going to be a brain breaker

[marsh saffron]

i went from atlantis og 4k to the bxm

which is 55g to 34g

and i was using my glass pad at the time

shit felt weightless

[tropic urchin]

39g on soft raiden

[marsh saffron]

i cant imagine the sub 20g modkits

[marsh saffron]

im now back on my xsoft zero 😭

[tropic urchin]

I wish I got the zero pad instead of otsu, but its a good pad

[marsh saffron]

tremors + losing mouse control from not playing/aim training has made glass pad a hell of a lot harder

who wouldve thought...

i miss it

[tropic urchin]

Xsoft is an interesting choice, but it seems like your mouse would get stuck if you put any weight on it

[marsh saffron]

i might start aim training again and go back to glass pad

[tropic urchin]

soft raiden is like my goat

its why im even entertaining smol mouse

[marsh saffron]

i love glass pads

i just have like 0 mouse control now 😭

[tropic urchin]

im afraid id break mine if i got tilted 😂

[marsh saffron]

nah at least the superglide pad is suprisingly durable

[tropic urchin]

try jade skates on raiden if you want 0 control

that is interesting

[marsh saffron]

ive dwropped so much shit on my superglide pad and it hasnt even gottena chip

[marsh saffron]

still slower than glass + ptfe

[tropic urchin]

maybe glass isnt for me then

[marsh saffron]

uhmwpe i think is a tiny bit more "controlled" on glass

[tropic urchin]

that sounds terrible

[marsh saffron]

its amazing if you are looking for that feeling

its like aiming on ice

you have so much control over your aim its unreal

however the downside is, you have 0 stopping power at all

[tropic urchin]

exactly

[marsh saffron]

so if you lack said control you are just gonna suck

[tropic urchin]

with jade skates on mid raiden i felt like i had absolutely 0 control

it felt terrible

[marsh saffron]

when my mouse control was good, i never aimed better than i did with my glass pad

even on tac fps

• i only played high sens

[tropic urchin]

same

[marsh saffron]

20-35cm/360 typically back then

val on 14cm with glass pad was the most fun ive ever had on val

[sacred elm]

no raiden = big L

sorry

@kind helm

[tropic urchin]

60% ahh emote

[calm pulsar]

I mean if you're looking for functionality and feel more than sound, then ttc pom stock springs are better imo

plus lubed they are not pinging

[sudden nova]

best switches for FPS. light or heavy?

[kind helm]

same shit

[sudden nova]

reallly?

[quasi hinge]

Technically lighter but it is really is personal preference

[sacred elm]

raws, jade pros, ttc pom

[kind helm]

then heavier spring is gonna return faster

so its like

comon now

[sacred elm]

spring weight doesnt matter because you have adjustable actuation and rapid trigger

[fiery mauve]

Every time someone asks what "spring weight" is "better" i can feel myself losing one day from my life

[quasi hinge]

Well technically spring weight is very personal

I had hand/finger fatigue with lekker 60s

After longer gaming sessions

So I prefer 50gs and below but again that is preference

[sacred elm]

i agree with that, its just comfy to use light springs for example on wasd

but has no impact on performance

[quasi hinge]

Too light and it is accidental presses also

[harsh dove]

Poor Heidi getting younger and younger

[fiery mauve]

From the top end I meant heheh

[harsh dove]

I know lol I was just bein funny

[tawdry tree]

Brotherman?? #🔧│keyboard_modding message

oblo died for now but should be soon still.

[glacial wind]

oh switch and click moving on to watches instead of keyboards. interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5k9SrL0WM

[sacred elm]

😳

[glacial wind]

understandable really. Those guys in the peripheral 'new keyboard/mouse from x factory in china' week to week literally just making the same video every week with a keyboard that's barely any different

[calm pulsar]

truer words have never been spoken

[glacial wind]

i got you guys. We just need to change the question

What spring weight is worse?

[quasi hinge]

I had an argument here that someone said lighter switches were better for gaming

Sno didnt you see it

It was lighter spring vs lower travel distance

[sacred elm]

anything below 40g

[glacial wind]

what if 120g springs are secretly op for training finger speed. Like rock lee naruto style training

you build up that finger power

[quasi hinge]

He argued using physics and so I believed him lol

Time to course correct again 😂

[sacred elm]

also this top sticky feeling on raws is making me feel like an autist, where are my poms

[calm pulsar]

I think this whole thing about lighter spring stems from MX switches where people wanted lighter springs to "actuate" faster, which doesn't matter on HE

and even on MX I can't imagine it being beneficial

so the choice remains simply for your feel preference

[quasi hinge]

Okay, well I get it now

I just dont know why he was dead set on saying lighter springs equals less resistance and so faster travel

His whole argument

[sacred elm]

yea i was arguing with somebody on this and they told me that i was rage baiting, still dont know how i was rage baiting but ok

literally said that spring weight had no impact on performance

[calm pulsar]

lol

[quasi hinge]

Maybe that was him lol

[sacred elm]

idk, i dont remember the name

[quasi hinge]

I dont either

[glacial wind]

nah asdasmos argument was a different thing

[sacred elm]

hope they know that spring weight doesnt matter after trying 10g springs

[glacial wind]

he was just presenting a theory that was technically true but not usably true

[quasi hinge]

Okay

[glacial wind]

technically lighter spring is faster, but we're talking about faster by 0.0000000000000000001%

which means it's not faster in usage

[harsh dove]

these raeds HE are gonna be the fastest

[calm pulsar]

yeah which is why I think its cope to assume lighter spring is faster
but it can be simply feeling better for some people

[sacred elm]

you know whats fastest

raptor he cheater switches

🤓

[calm pulsar]

but you can also argue that with a heavier spring, the return is faster, which would mean snappier feeling for rapid triggering

[glacial wind]

you do get used to whatever spring length you use though. Like when I go between pom 21mm springs and 15mm spring in jade pro, the return time feels different

[glacial wind]

it's not better or worse but just feels different for first 10 mins

[tropic urchin]

raiden keyboard pad + raeds and you'll break into another dimension

[quasi hinge]

Why?

[harsh dove]

cause of their magnet

[sacred elm]

Autism

[quasi hinge]

I had the raptors before

I thought they were not compatible or something

[calm pulsar]

I think this clickbait came out when HE was still a relatively new thing and everyone called 60he a cheater keyboard for osu

so these new HE switches were "cheater" too

lol

[quasi hinge]

Ohhhh so its bs

[sacred elm]

nah it was because of stronger magnet

[glacial wind]

the tldr is he misread magnet strength as accuracy

[sacred elm]

in reality it was worse

[calm pulsar]

ahh lmao

[sacred elm]

because rapid trigger was delayed when you bottom out

[quasi hinge]

looool

[sacred elm]

it wasnt noticeable but still

you had more deadzone with raptors

[glacial wind]

i did prefer the raptors to lekker v1 though, just for sound, but that lasted for like a month before jades came out

[sacred elm]

same

[quasi hinge]

Yeah same

[sacred elm]

jades were big jump

[quasi hinge]

But I went to Raw church

[harsh dove]

now we all ttc church

[quasi hinge]

Now praise ttc lord

[glacial wind]

my new church is hurrying up and ordering everything i want from amazon before trump decides to tariff war south korea for no reason

[sacred elm]

raws are insane for the price but i hate some things about it, the fact that theyre stuck in the plate + sticky feel at the top

just give me my poms

[quasi hinge]

I get you

I didnt really notice it too much at the beginning

Excited to out the ttc poms on

[sacred elm]

im back on raws and i notice it, but they feel good overall

[quasi hinge]

Hope it will be finished by this weekend

[tropic urchin]

im tryna get my alu plate before the great Canada US war

[glacial wind]

the ttc switches are extremely satisfying to open and close

[quasi hinge]

Definitely a good switch

[sacred elm]

ye