🔧│keyboard_modding

[little glen]

iso too and i would give them my soul

[harsh dove]

Ima email them

Yeah it actually is, almost feel like it’s better quality than some of the $50 plates I’ve gotten

[queen knoll]

How do I use macros

[inland jetty]

@glacial wind thanks for posting domikeys around man, i got myself one and it is beautiful! my pictures are trash tho since my camera got damaged from the solar flare.

[polar girder]

Works with module stabs?

[polar girder]

Idk wrong channel

[tropic urchin]

@cyan lark Geon 42.5g springs might be my new favs

These aren’t real

wtf

[polar girder]

Oh glory be

[cyan lark]

42.5? Didn't know that was a thing

[polar girder]

I ordered those o

[tropic urchin]

They feel decently lighter than L45s

[calm pulsar]

geon pingless ones have 2.5 added to them

42.5, 52.5, 62.5

[tropic urchin]

They have almost no resistance to them, but also have good stability

[cyan lark]

I tried a few 45g lekker springs in my KoMs and it seemed like a small difference, but I think I preferred the KoM spring just a hair more and stuck with it

[kind helm]

thought you be bored in class or somethin

[hollow bear]

thinking of getting another keycap set for my frost case :> any suggestions?

[fluid ravine]

how very thoughtful of you thank you :>

[kind helm]

WS Amber Keycaps

[harsh dove]

Like screw-ins? Yeah it does

Im using the knights with it on the module

in the optimum case

Frog is using the og module

with plate mounts

[tropic urchin]

these 42.5s on jades are goated

[dark cypress]

teal

[tropic urchin]

smoother than default springs wtf

[kind helm]

i really like it with no RGB

looks like it is a tray of green tea ice cube

[dark cypress]

for no rgb i think the amber or lilac color will look better

but!! ill see how it looks after i install the cf plate with raw he switches

[kind helm]

every time when this channel starts talking about key caps I need to hop off

my fingers keep getting itchy

[little glen]

have to buy

buy more keycaps

wallet be damned

[kind helm]

gotta get in line, there is a set of black snail on novelkey for 89

matches with my boring ass personality more

[hollow bear]

holy

got a link?

[kind helm]

https://shop.wuquestudio.com/products/amber-keycaps?variant=46227635142826

[little glen]

if only the legends werent hideous

[kind helm]

you are hideous

[little glen]

😳

[kind helm]

sry sir

[hollow bear]

there are legends?

oh.

[dark cypress]

they’re not that bad to be honest

after i install the cf plate and raw he’s ill see if i keep em order a different set of keycaps

they do have a nice sound to them though. and the keycaps are thick

[hollow bear]

i might get these tbh

[polar girder]

Sweet good to know just in case this Geon GH60 plate doesn’t work. Thanks.

[hollow bear]

i feel like it would go hard with my white and maple rgb setup

[dark cypress]

u like gradient ?

[hollow bear]

like blank keycaps with a gradient color?

[dark cypress]

yeah side printed but they also offer top printed

[hollow bear]

they are alr, i like my caps themed tho

[inland jetty]

HiFi Fox x domikeys on a 60he. Apologies for the camera.

[harsh dove]

Is it Thursday yet

[tropic urchin]

I like the alternating domikey build

Tmrw is full raiden build day 🔥🔥

[harsh dove]

Oh shii KCD2 drops tomorrow

[inland jetty]

it's nice and toasty with the mineral wool inside it. it sounds so nice with abs keycaps

[harsh dove]

Almost forgot

[tropic urchin]

I approve

[tropic urchin]

I still need to play KCD1

[harsh dove]

Do it

[tropic urchin]

So far writing and world building S tier

KCD2 gonna be a hard 9 I can feel it in my bones

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s great esp if you enjoy history

[tropic urchin]

I really do enjoy games that are based off real events

[harsh dove]

Yeah they do it really well

[tropic urchin]

Or if not fully based off, but the lore behind it is 100%

You can feel the authenticity

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[thorn zealot]

guys should i cop battfield 5 for $2.5

[tropic urchin]

I think I’m like 4 hrs into the first game

Not a bad price

Idk if it’s any good

Hard to not get your moneys worth tho

[inland jetty]

mr cam, is it a story driven game with a good campaign?

[cinder mango]

what is the benifit of a pom plate?

[harsh dove]

Yes

[inland jetty]

switch testers go for that much

[harsh dove]

100%

[harsh dove]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[tropic urchin]

KCD is like Skyrim meets Witcher 3 without any of the modern game fluff

[thorn zealot]

so is it not a good deal

[harsh dove]

Yeah KCD is a certified hood classic

[inland jetty]

that sounds interesting. I might give that a shot. I do love me some good single players when im relaxing

[tropic urchin]

The first one is a little rough but decent, the new one is going to hit like crack

Recommend starting with first (what I’ve heard)

How is 2018 7 years ago

wtf

[inland jetty]

will do, i might have it on epic, i think they had it for free once

[steel ibex]

i can mod wooting 60he+ like a regular keyboard correct?

i just gotta be careful on the lube

[tidal frigate]

Yep just do not damage pcb

[steel ibex]

I would never

cuz warranty dosent cover that right

[tidal frigate]

No

[cyan lark]

https://opencritic.com/game/17486/kingdom-come-deliverance-ii

Looks like it’s doing it

[harsh dove]

KBD got back to me and said they’ll submit my suggestions to their designer for making 80HE plates.

[tropic urchin]

I feel like an 89 is on the lower side, but granted I’ll take it over game journos

[calm pulsar]

thats great

[visual ore]

Woops wrong chat

[cyan lark]

Yeah I mean it’s just an average of folks you may or may not agree with. I’d say it’s a good sign that’s it’s generally enjoyed.

[harsh dove]

You miss all the shots you don’t take

Figured I send an email and see what they say

Worst they could say is no

[tropic urchin]

Aluminum???????

[tropic urchin]

Game journos are always wrong

Some more than others

[harsh dove]

Yeah I suggested multiple materials

[tropic urchin]

Doing the lords work sir

[uneven cradle]

I might geta custom one cut in one of cafeges plate runs

Get me that PP plate 80he action

[harsh dove]

oh they doing 80he plates too?

[uneven cradle]

As long as you have the plate files you can get anything cut

[harsh dove]

ah yeah thats right you can just send em over to them

forgot they do that

[little glen]

I need to get me some iso plates

Nightmare

I hope you mentioned iso in your email @harsh dove or i‘ll have to do it (i will forget)

[harsh dove]

Shipping from Cafege be like $80 for me lol

[little glen]

I hope i can find a place to cut me some plates that isnt on the other side of the planet

[harsh dove]

Yeah I did

[uneven cradle]

There's a few places that offer it knc does it too

[little glen]

bless

[little glen]

Are all of the plate cutting services based in australia

Honestly might just do it if i can find someone to modify the file for me cause i dont want to mess that up and end up with a plate that i cant use

Tho shipping might be an issue

Yeah honestly might be cheaper to use knc one than to get a eu based one

40 euro for a fr4 plate like what the fuck

[uneven cradle]

Works out for me

[harsh dove]

or Canada lol

I think SMKeyboards is New York

Hypekeyboards is Toronto

[gaunt plume]

Thank you. I'll add it.

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar the new geon pingless springs won out, TTC journey is now delayed

[cyan lark]

The KoM church will be ready for you when you are ready to let it in

[oblique dragon]

40？在中国，一块fr4只需要20rmb

[visual ore]

We're really pushing the KOM church hahah

I might get rid of the foam...

I kind of want it to be louder

Haven't put in the CF plate yet though so...... hmmm

[calm pulsar]

sounds good

im playing wow on poms rn and I never felt such precision in my keys lol

[visual ore]

They are for sure really straight

Some people actually don't like that as apparently it takes out some of the character

[tropic urchin]

I’ll pick em up at some point if it’s thru Wooting or no China tariff

[tropic urchin]

Even over your knights?

[calm pulsar]

yeah, jade knights sound better, but I like the stability of pressing keys

[polar girder]

fk

TTC POM with Geon pingless springs?

[calm pulsar]

too short for me if you know what I mean

[night atlas]

Church of TTC POMSSSS

[polar girder]

I feel that lol

[thorn zealot]

yes please do it

[visual ore]

Lol you don't like the foam?

[thorn zealot]

no

[visual ore]

Although I think foam is more if you're going to a thock

[thorn zealot]

makes my kb sound like foam

not kb

[visual ore]

And HE switches don't thock

[dark beacon]

Hey everyone, I have recently order a 80HE module case and switches and this is my first time getting a non prebuilt keyboard. I'm not quite sure if this is the right place to ask but I was wondering if any one know some good places to buy some keycaps 🙂 thanks in advance!! 😄

[visual ore]

Did you get rid of the plate foam, case foam or both?

[thorn zealot]

both

[visual ore]

I will keep that in mind when I swap the plate from PC to CF

I will do the foam swap then as well.

[visual ore]

Depends Fancy

What is your budget and what are you looking for?

Brand name? Style?

Etc

Also region counts as well

You usually want to buy as close as you can to a supplier

[dark beacon]

my budget for the keycaps hopefully <100 and like I dont know much about keyboards so I'm really just looking for some thing that looks nice (maybe some white keycaps with sakura design? chinese/japanese inspired) I got the Gateron Jade switches andddd my region is NA 😄

[thorn zealot]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[visual ore]

Sakura huh

Hmmm

[visual ore]

Oh lol

I'm watching his video right now

[dark beacon]

doesnt have to be but liek I got the black case and I want some sort of white keycap if possible with asian inspired deisngs 🙂

[visual ore]

On the Classic TKL I got in a giveaway

[visual ore]

Hmmm

Let me do some digging

[dark beacon]

tysm for your help!!!! 🙏 also if not asian inspired some white with pink/red keycaps would do too ty!! ❤️

[visual ore]

Here is a set I found

https://osume.com/products/sakura-keycaps

Hiragana Kit with the Novelty Kit should be $95

GMK if you want to stretch that $100 to $125

https://novelkeys.com/collections/keycaps/products/gmk-cyl-darling-keycaps?variant=46082437677223

Preorder though so you will be waiting a bit

PBTFans Blush $95

https://divinikey.com/collections/keycap-sets/products/pbtfans-blush-keycaps

[dark beacon]

@visual ore yoooooooooooooooo tysm!!!!

[visual ore]

Good luck with the build 🙂

[dark beacon]

tyyy 😄 i saw the assembling video didnt look too hard hopefully im not tht stupid 😭

[visual ore]

Just take your time and don't force anything

It's a pretty straightforward build compared to other boards on the bright side.

[tropic urchin]

Fully done with spring swap

this shit is crazy

[visual ore]

Ohhhh?

What springs?

[tropic urchin]

42.5g geon pingless

[visual ore]

Ahh so lighter

[tropic urchin]

I liked it so much I did the whole board

it has a surprising amount of stability when pressing keys

[visual ore]

Wait no

POMs are 35 grams

Hmmm

[visual ore]

Mind telling me what you like about them?

I might do it myself

[calm pulsar]

this is initial force, not bottom out

[calm pulsar]

naisu

[tropic urchin]

mainly for fps, but it has a significantly lighter feel to it from original jade pro springs (should be similar to POM), but they just felt too heavy and I wanted something a little lighter so i tried L45s which felt nicer, but these easily clear L45 springs

[ionic breach]

wait how long are pingless?

[visual ore]

Woah these are shorter springs

[ionic breach]

20mm?

[visual ore]

15mm

[tropic urchin]

they pretty short

[ionic breach]

fk

[visual ore]

Very short

[calm pulsar]

I guess with lighter springs you bottom out fast and it allows for a more stable feel

[visual ore]

Interesting

[tropic urchin]

@ionic breach

[visual ore]

I might do the opposite

[tropic urchin]

Ye, I really dig it for jades

[visual ore]

48g is the bottom out of the poms

[ionic breach]

[visual ore]

62.5g are sold out T.T

Nvm

[tropic urchin]

longer springs also adds some weight to it too, kinda addicted to the short time for shorter springs

[tropic urchin]

theyre really nice

I also got 52.5gs but they felt too similar to my other springs

POMs with these springs might transcend reality with its stability

[polar girder]

On what switches?

[tropic urchin]

Pros

[polar girder]

Nice

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s what I’m leaning towards

42.5g Geon pingless springs in TTC POM’s

Fk

[tropic urchin]

give em a try

[calm pulsar]

they already feel insanely light cause they are hella smooth
I'd rather keep the long spring for fast return back

[tropic urchin]

they have a surprising amount of stability to them so you dont double press as much as you'd think

[polar girder]

Yeah that would be nice

[polar girder]

I don’t have the POMs

springs on the way tho

I do want to try the TTC POM now tho

[tropic urchin]

I might be cooked but I noticed the initial force more than return speed 💀

[polar girder]

I’ll try raw with the pingless spring and see how happy I am lol

[tropic urchin]

the springs are less loud which makes me sad a bit on FR4 but thats the cost of doing business

[ionic breach]

wait will ttc poms be instock for wooting's website?

or is it just normal koms

[visual ore]

We don't know yet I pretty sure

They are only in talks about it right?

[ionic breach]

imma tickle the details out of cam

[ionic breach]

it seems quite soon honestly

[calm pulsar]

ofc it depends on how you perceive different springs
for me I have no issue with both 40g and 60g springs, but I like faster topout of 60g

so springs like jade pro or ttc pom help me get a bit lighter spring with a faster bottom out

I personally didnt like 42.5 for example, cause I didnt need increased easiness of press while losing a bit of snappiness

[visual ore]

Well in that case I'm excited for all the potential converts to the KOMs

[tropic urchin]

yeah i might be cooked then

[calm pulsar]

I also like when the topout sound is more noticeable

[tropic urchin]

idk why i just dont like the harder initial press

[calm pulsar]

what matters is that you use whatever makes you feel better

[ionic breach]

same honestly

[tropic urchin]

I just dont notice the faster top out, but im really sensitive to the initial press

im also a degen so checks out

[ionic breach]

lighter presses just makes typing more fun for me

less commitment

[tropic urchin]

default jade pro springs the inital press even on 0.1 and 0.15 RT just feels sluggish

[tropic urchin]

i also type super fast so its like being the typing version of ben shapiro on like 1.25x speed

its great

[ionic breach]

i do miss tactiles ngl

so ive been using laptop keyboards a lot more

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar ah I see what you mean now

shorter springs are like half a milisec behind on rebound

[visual ore]

I freaking want tactiles for HE

I know it makes no sense but I'm a tactical fan

[calm pulsar]

actually I feel like on poms it would matter a bit less, cause there will be less micro obstructions on the way up

[tropic urchin]

I left my escape key and F row default jade springs

[tropic urchin]

hmmmm good point

since it is the equivalent of Area 51 protection in switch form

I should ask gateron to make 20mm springs at 45g for better hifi sound and see if they take me up on it

that seems to be the only thing that goes on over there

[visual ore]

Ask them if they would be down for 65g as well for the heavy typers 😄

[calm pulsar]

according to @visual ore, ttc pom springs are 48g and 21mm, so they should fit your needs

[tropic urchin]

One innovation at a time

[tropic urchin]

You shouldn’t have said that

😭

[calm pulsar]

lmao I need to stop talking about poms

[tropic urchin]

FAHK

I’ll get em probably by next month

[calm pulsar]

you better use all coupons possible

if you get them from ali

xd

[tropic urchin]

I don’t think I have any

[calm pulsar]

I think you can just google some

[tropic urchin]

Unless I abuse the new account creation and get shadow banned like Shafie

[calm pulsar]

lol

[tropic urchin]

In your opinion do the Pom springs feel lighter than default pro springs

[polar girder]

I’ll start taping them now lol

[tropic urchin]

Don’t you take my coupons smh

[calm pulsar]

I think they are a couple of gs different between each other

however poms are so smooth you bottom out instantly, and topout instantly too

so they are hella snappy

I dunno maybe I just used jade knights for too long lol

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-loki-season-2-it's-over-over-caption-gif-12912202621284989156

[steel ibex]

yo fam

uh

i have an idea

what if iget siracha bottle empty it out and use it as a water bottle

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-we-are-so-back-nightcrawler-lou-bloom-gif-15162091166909902657

[tropic urchin]

The real power play is to get an empty mayo bottle to assert dominance

[tropic urchin]

I got nothing for that one 🤣

Touché sir

[steel ibex]

nah its too weak

too soft

[quasi hinge]

‘Were so back’ right after ttc checkout haha

[calm pulsar]

back to being broke

[quasi hinge]

Then its ‘its over’

The circle of life continues lol

Then ‘were so back’ right after they are lubed and installed

[calm pulsar]

yeah after finally lubing 62 poms and their springs I am back

[visual ore]

Nice

[glacial wind]

What if mark is just imagining the details of a ttc pom wooting box in his highly detailed imagination postings

[tropic urchin]

That shit sounds awful after all my lubing 💀

For a rainy spring day hehe

[calm pulsar]

well tbf they are a bit faster to lube due to the design, but my adhd ass couldn't do it all in one sitting

[glacial wind]

You just needed the right k drama

This wouldn’t have happened if you lubed while watching itaewon class

A classic underdog revenge story

[calm pulsar]

lol never watched k dramas, but my gf watched a ton

I was watching other "drama" when I was lubing

onlyfangs molten core raid

[glacial wind]

they should have done no world buffs

feels like classic isn’t as fun to watch when everyone is running full world buffs lol

[ionic breach]

have you seen escape of the seven?

i came across a few clips and want to watch it ngl

[calm pulsar]

yeah I think last onlyfangs they did no world buffs right?

[glacial wind]

Yeah I think boons weren’t a thing back then maybe. Might have been before world buffs

[calm pulsar]

I might be mixing this with some guild run before hardcore was official

[glacial wind]

Watch itaewon class first so you have comparison of correct k drama

[teal raven]

I'm not the best at renders but I did try to move the curves up a bit, I think the only question I have right is if I should make the curve from the side transition slightly to the back like at the end of the filleted corner. I'll send a image of it

so like that

also these are my requirements I have, it's supposed to be a redesign for the optimum x wooting callab. I'll change the colours later on, I just wanted to see what it'd look like with the that one mode colourway

also I don't know what type of cutout design to use for the usb connnector, I just have rectangle or the shape of the case with the 2 top corners having larger fillets and the lower ones with smaller fillets

[fluid ravine]

ok yeah fuck this shit, i really dont like thock anymore, violently just ripped out my tape mod and went for the standard friction pad mount in the optimum

going back to standards

Literally had some actuation errors in my board after apply the tape mod, that's concerning, i didn't expect such a old problem to come back after all this time

WootingxOptimum Pro+

[quiet bay]

now

what does this sound like

[fluid ravine]

Radiant guarantee right here

[ionic breach]

oh thats clean

[quiet bay]

wth

[fluid ravine]

HAHA

clack

[ionic breach]

it is moving away from minimalist with the wood accent and the curves

but thats quite nice

[fluid ravine]

This is da way

There is no other way

[ionic breach]

not sure how id feel about the feet strips affecting sound, but theres no way to tell honestly

it might get thuddy

[fluid ravine]

Bumpons>>>>>

[ionic breach]

id recommend looking at something similar to optimum's bumpons yea

[teal raven]

Do I make the curve stretch towards the back or just keep everything how it is? I’ll finalize everything and just get a 3d printed prototype just to see how it fits. I just don’t have a wooting board 💔

I think after I finalize that I’ll just make a 80he variant for it

[ionic breach]

i love how it is rn

stretching it to the back would be cool

but im sure it takes work to do it right

[teal raven]

It def takes problem solving in fusion 360

It’s possible

[ionic breach]

cos it might mess this up

^ this side profile is amazing

[teal raven]

I’ll keep it that way then

Ima just switch the colour to optimum grey

And just add the other finer details to it

Do I still keep the wood cherry lip?

[ionic breach]

up to you

the wood fits with the green

not sure abt gray

[teal raven]

I’ll see how the wood looks

[ionic breach]

u bought the module yet?

[teal raven]

I mean it was suppose to be a redesign of the optimum x wooting case

[prime orbit]

Day 1 waiting for 60he Pro

[teal raven]

I have a 60he I gave to my younger brother but I’m in college

On a not so good laptop

I’ll prob just get the mad60 bc in terms of dimensions I think it’s the same I just dk about foam sizing

[lapis raven]

my 80he only took 3 days from placing the order to it arriving

[teal raven]

Bc I made it so just the stock 60he foams can fit in it

[prime orbit]

I have a fully modded 60he rn

I’m waiting for pro module

With 8k

🫡

[lapis raven]

noice

[teal raven]

Also I forgot to mention I think the typing angle is the exact same as the optimum x wooting case

I just added a cherry lip

[fluid ravine]

good luck my brutha

day 14 of waiting for my geon order to ship

[lapis raven]

what is going on in this picture, why is your keyboard encased in a block of something

[fluid ravine]

everyday, i would listen to a Venom sound test from Dr Dave. Everyday my patience goes down

[prime orbit]

Yessir it’ll happen maybe one day hopefully

[fluid ravine]

it's the foam to encase the optimum case from the optimum case box

[lapis raven]

ah okay, may i ask what does it do ?

[fluid ravine]

im over here dying rn 😭

[ionic breach]

its the packaging lmao

it fancy

[prime orbit]

That’s not good

[fluid ravine]

nothing really, i just took it out cus i thought it was funny

[prime orbit]

Why die

[fluid ravine]

cus im getting super super impatient for some reason

[prime orbit]

💀

[ionic breach]

cny times

[prime orbit]

Well thankfully my build is complete

[ionic breach]

🫡

[prime orbit]

Minus the knight v3 stabs

[fluid ravine]

i swore to myself that i won't get impatient this time after all the orders and waiting ive done

but NOPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[prime orbit]

But those are never in stock

[fluid ravine]

i failed INSTANTLY

[lapis raven]

it looks like it has been naughty and you have put it in prison lmao

[fluid ravine]

i got Dr Dave to blame for

[prime orbit]

My geons came in a week from buying

🙏

[fluid ravine]

Geon is suppose to be shipping the 2025 event orders by 2/3/2025

but since there is a mass amount of orders

[prime orbit]

Delayed?

[fluid ravine]

it could delay some other orders yeah

[prime orbit]

What did you get btw

[fluid ravine]

Basically a full Venom 60HE kit

[prime orbit]

Oh w

You got a wooting too?

[fluid ravine]

Venom 7u PCB
Venom Plate, Alu and FR4
TypeplusxYIKB stabs
Geon Balanced Wire
Geon Spacers
Geon Brush
Switch Opener
Another set of RAW HE 60g switches

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[prime orbit]

Rich man.

😭

[ionic breach]

dayum

[fluid ravine]

i've had my wooting for 2 years so far

[ionic breach]

bro exploiting the free shipping

[fluid ravine]

HAHA

yessirrr

[prime orbit]

Venom costs way more than that to make no?

[fluid ravine]

uh

the wooting module is $120 right?

[prime orbit]

140

I think

[fluid ravine]

venom should be cheaper then

cus the pcb of the venom is $65

[prime orbit]

Weird

[fluid ravine]

and the plates can range from $20-30

nah not weird at all

[prime orbit]

I thought I calculated it before and it legit was like the same if not more than a wooting

[ionic breach]

it usually just ends up around the same

[fluid ravine]

FR4- $22
Alu- $25
CFRP- $29
Venom PCB- $65
Stab of choice- $10-20

[ionic breach]

things like stabs and cables add up

[fluid ravine]

so to be for real
my venom order or "module" kit would cost like $127 with a pcb, two plates, and stabs

And a Wooting module where it comes with a Wooting60he+ PCB, PC plate, and screw in stabs would cost $140

[calm pulsar]

nice little capslock south led - priceless

[prime orbit]

So let’s say I got a wooting fully built

[fluid ravine]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[prime orbit]

Just need stabs

Is the venom worth getting?

[fluid ravine]

omfg i need one of those

[fluid ravine]

ehhhhh if you already have the wooting everything i would stick with it

[prime orbit]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

the only reason I would stick with the wooting as of right now in my situation is the software, cus wooting's is crazy good

[prime orbit]

Redux (brass)
Pc plate
Friction fit
Lucifer HE
Lyla Blank Keycaps

[ionic breach]

sorry context?

[fluid ravine]

but otherwise, mounts, pcb layout, 8k polling (even though i dont give a shit about performance that much), and etc, i'd choose the venom rn

[prime orbit]

Well I know they said the update to the .1 RT will come out

[ionic breach]

im just confused why this isnt in https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/220093300672167936

[prime orbit]

And I’m sure a refreshed 8k 60he will come too

So w

[steel ibex]

oh waittttttttttttttttttttt im tweaking

that is my fault

[ionic breach]

nw

[steel ibex]

ma fault i might be tweaking lmao

[fluid ravine]

for the venom?

or wooting

[ionic breach]

wooting 80he i believe

[fluid ravine]

Ah

[sacred elm]

no, its coming for 60he too

[ionic breach]

venom is just a really nice passion project

[fluid ravine]

I haven't caught up on the Wootility shit nor software shit for anything

[prime orbit]

Wooting 60/80

It’s gonna be both

[ionic breach]

geon is just a flawless business

[fluid ravine]

im like, if i know the performance is there, then cool

[ionic breach]

i cant lie

[fluid ravine]

nah fr

Geons like C stock is still pretty fking good

[calm pulsar]

very true

[fluid ravine]

like QC wise

it's great still

[ionic breach]

no issues, no qc issues, perfect quality, decent price

[fluid ravine]

yup yup

[sacred elm]

Although Im not sure if its coming to 60he(non plus version), because 60he+ has improved he scanning or something

[ionic breach]

and mf says he is just a business man

[fluid ravine]

yo him with his keycap prices

[sacred elm]

maybe it is coming to nonplus too, not sure

[fluid ravine]

shiiiiiii

[ionic breach]

probably both

[steel ibex]

in my defense though this chat is rarely about keyboards :D

[calm pulsar]

plus is purely stab difference, 60he og are not produced anymore

but a firmware update is likely to be available on em

[prime orbit]

Would love a wooting 65he tho 😔

[sacred elm]

Yes I know, there is also difference in scanning, on 60he+ they released scanning optimizations or something like that. so difference isnt only stabilizers

[prime orbit]

[fluid ravine]

Geon made a video of the Venom 65HE

[prime orbit]

…..

[calm pulsar]

damn never knew that tbh

[prime orbit]

Fr.

When?

Where

[fluid ravine]

it's in prototype phase right? @calm pulsar

in testing or wtv

[calm pulsar]

havent been following it tbh

[sacred elm]

Yea, there are some limitations on nonplus 60he, 60he+ is more capable of some tweaks/updates

[fluid ravine]

@calm pulsar Me and Dr Dave made a theory of the Venom sounding fuller than the Wooting cus of probably two factors can you confirm?
-Standoffs being soldered directly onto the pcb so the plate would have to be screwed on top of the PCB
-PCB built quality

[chilly mural]

https://discordapp.com/channels/167181566978555904/984799440072220692/1334878598653415465

[sacred elm]

insane warranty (nonexistent)

[calm pulsar]

hmm I had similar thoughts, like since there is less stuff on venom, no leds etc, it might sound diff

but my wooting alu plate for frog sounds diff from venom alu, so I probably cant compare 1 to 1

[ionic breach]

honestly imo

[prime orbit]

If the venom65he comes out

I’ll sell my wooting

[ionic breach]

the qc is good enuf to warrent no offical warrenty

[polar girder]

How so

[ionic breach]

pun non intended

[calm pulsar]

just diff quality ig

[polar girder]

Fair

I’m excited

[prime orbit]

Ty sir 🙏

[sacred elm]

Well sure. But there is no perfect product, if it works at first and then suddenly dies in months, youre cooked

[ionic breach]

yea fair

[polar girder]

Yeah the odds of QC being perfect is basically 0 lol

[sacred elm]

also its weird, you have to hover a switch over the pcb to know if the pcb works or not, geon said that you have to test it without attaching switches

like what

[fluid ravine]

i mean i could do it

[sacred elm]

WHY

[fluid ravine]

Im gonna run my venom in the opti case temporary

until leggera comes out

so i would know

to be honest I think the Wooting sounds a bit thin in my taste

[calm pulsar]

not sure what you mean

i just built it and it worked xd

[fluid ravine]

I tend to like fuller sounding boards, neutral or high pitched sounding boards

[calm pulsar]

without prior testing i mean

[calm pulsar]

nice, would be good to compare

[glacial wind]

he's talking about the venom warranty policy - which is basically you need to test the pcb before using it and once you use it there is no more warranty

[prime orbit]

What’s the difference between 6.25 and 7?

[sacred elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984799440072220692/1334071371243716649/image.png?ex=67a27288&is=67a12108&hm=539ffc0a08d99b84d637f01e3eada2481e87a21d58f175426d28d361d98a1e80&

[fluid ravine]

layout hollup ill pull up picd

[calm pulsar]

ah ic

[glacial wind]

i don't mind the warranty too much but that's also part of why i would never recommend it to normie folks. It's a hobby product for enthusiasts

[fluid ravine]

6.25u

7u

[prime orbit]

Which do y’all prefer?

[calm pulsar]

I think it is a way to eliminate user error from them submitting the pcb as faulty with already insanely limited warranty

[cyan zodiac]

7u or bust

[ionic breach]

7u ofc

[calm pulsar]

so i can understand

[fluid ravine]

im really excited for 7u

[prime orbit]

So I messed up getting 6.25 on my wooting

For venom I’ll get 7u

[fluid ravine]

?

[calm pulsar]

aint no 7u on wooting

[ionic breach]

low key its just 7u looks symmetrical

[glacial wind]

eh make sure you know what you're getting. There are some muscle memory differences if you go 7u

they're saying 7u for looks and for the extra key, but just keep in mind you'll need to relearn your muscle memory and not swap back to normal layout

[cyan zodiac]

split r shift

[prime orbit]

I was testing y’all….

[fluid ravine]

cant wait to use \ | as my backspace

[cyan zodiac]

and split bs if you like that

[ionic breach]

ofc we love the tsangan

[fluid ravine]

well that was a dumb test ngl

lul

[calm pulsar]

byutifuru

[fluid ravine]

def gonna run split bs

[cyan zodiac]

beautiful frog

[fluid ravine]

[cyan zodiac]

wonder where you got it

[glacial wind]

it's why i like 7u but don't use 7u. That top row muscle memory with the backspace in different spot messes with my typing

[cyan zodiac]

[calm pulsar]

ohhhh you're from cafege lmaoo, I think you had it in the username before

[calm pulsar]

[calm pulsar]

да

[calm pulsar]

fair, for me I got used to it in 2 days

[cyan zodiac]

yeah don't work there anymore

since i got another job

hard to balance 2 jobs

[calm pulsar]

ohh ic

[glacial wind]

i think real problem for me is I never use 60% for long periods, i swap between that and my tkl and other boards

so changing the muscle memory constantly is big nope for me

[cyan zodiac]

tkl take up too much space when gaming

[prime orbit]

Shhhh it was a cover up cuz I’m dumb

[glacial wind]

with 6.25u i can kind of get away by changing esc key to ~ then i don't have to change my typing muscle memory

[calm pulsar]

i feel like i can game on tkl no problem, but 60 looks so nice

[prime orbit]

Ye I can see that. All good it’ll take a couple of days or so

What plates did y’all go with

?

[calm pulsar]

i like 7u for this arrow key setup, its a small weird thing but seems a bit nicer for the pseudo arrow section

[calm pulsar]

alu, fr4, using fr4 rn

[prime orbit]

Ok and the deepest sounding is PC right?

[calm pulsar]

well you could say soft plastic plates sound more dampened than deep, but they can sound lower pitched yeah

[prime orbit]

Gotcha

So for someone who keeps cracking their PC plates

Which should they get

Asking for a friend

[calm pulsar]

xd

[calm pulsar]

you can try cf/fr4 this time around

there are venom compatible ones

[prime orbit]

I not much of a sound guy just don’t want it to be loud and piercing

[calm pulsar]

if you really need it quiet then pc/pom, but it needs 7u support, which i dont recall existing for venom, outside of custom made plates ofc

[prime orbit]

Yeah so what’s the next best?

Fr4

[calm pulsar]

I think fr4

[prime orbit]

Kk

[calm pulsar]

check my fr4 build out
there s no foam so you can get it quieter potentially
https://youtu.be/VkZqRU6GXVc

[prime orbit]

Oh yeah that sounds fine

And geon RAW the best switch still?

[sacred elm]

there was never a best switch

[prime orbit]

Everyone I ask says raw he

Just didn’t know if anything new came out

[sacred elm]

Yea because theyre cheap and decent

most popular rn are ttc magneto pom, jade pros and raws

but seems like everybody is just swapping to ttc poms

including me

[prime orbit]

Any reason?

[sacred elm]

They are most stable

Almost no wobble

[prime orbit]

Gotcha

[sacred elm]

Also on wooting youre getting less deadzone with them (~0.03mm), but i dont know if thats noticeable. Will have to test in future

[hard hawk]

Alright before I go to sleep

Has anyone done a stem swap with the geon raw?

Specifically swapping the stems for a boxed ones like the Lucifer’s?

[prime orbit]

Is there diff version of them?

[prime orbit]

I have both but I’m scared to swap

So I won’t

But I’m guessing they are good

[hard hawk]

I just wanted to know if it’s a tight fitting or not

I don’t want to force you to do it

[sacred elm]

There is regular ttc magneto, ttc magneto rgb, and ttc magneto pom. poms are smoother and cleaner sounding compared to other two

[prime orbit]

I just know I’ll mess em up somehow. I already broke 3 PC plates lmao

[hard hawk]

If you have a few spares you can test to your desires if you want

[prime orbit]

I do have spares

[hard hawk]

Whaa

[prime orbit]

Maybe when I get home I will

[prime orbit]

I don’t want to talk about it.

Happened when I took out my switches

So w

[hard hawk]

Mouth shut mhm

Well if you do plan to do a stem swap

You can dm me or ping me later in this channel

It is 12am so I’m going to sleep

[sacred elm]

@prime orbit btw wooting will sell customized ttc poms in their store soon

[prime orbit]

Ye I work till 6 am anyway

So it works out

[hard hawk]

Perfect

[prime orbit]

Is there a “best” with those 😭

Oh nvm

POM

Got it

[sacred elm]

Yea pom

[prime orbit]

Oh bet

Do you know when?

Cuz I think I’ve tried to find POM before and legit can’t find them anywhere 💀

[hard hawk]

I kinda want to try a Pom switch

I heard sum abt longer spring

[prime orbit]

I also do bc not sure if I heard right but it’s the only switch that affects performance?

could be way off

[sacred elm]

No date, but probably soon. If youre going to get them wait for wooting

[prime orbit]

Bet

Will do 🫡

[hard hawk]

Ss for later cause I’ll know I forget

There are so many he switches that I can’t name them all atp

[prime orbit]

Fr lmao

I just got lucifers

Cuz black

And every part of my current build is black

[calm pulsar]

you will enjoy the look of venom pcb then

[hard hawk]

Raptors, raw, Lucifer, Jade, Jade pro, jade max, Jade game, ttc Pom, gateron ks (I could be wrong), black knights, everyglide rice pudding, wuque dash,

Too many

[prime orbit]

Yes yes

[hard hawk]

I do agree with his statement

[prime orbit]

Unf

Ttc POM

Is PURPLE

😭😭

And red?????

wtf

[calm pulsar]

dash is the same as jades

[hard hawk]

O ur right

A recolor

[sacred elm]

Wootings version will have neutral colors

[hard hawk]

Was that all of them or is there more can’t remember

[prime orbit]

Black

[sacred elm]

We dont know

[calm pulsar]

lekkers

[prime orbit]

I hope so

[hard hawk]

You can’t forget those :3

[prime orbit]

Also do they affect performance

Or was that a lie I heard

[sacred elm]

What

[prime orbit]

The POM

Someone said they affect performance or sum

[calm pulsar]

ttc are insanely stable and smooth

[hard hawk]

There is a compatibility chart somewhere

[calm pulsar]

so potentially better rapid trigger performance on wooting

[hard hawk]

Should be pinned

[prime orbit]

Ah gotcha

Just wooting?

[calm pulsar]

on venom it is already good

[sacred elm]

Yes, on wooting youre getting less deadzone with more stable switches, ttc are the most stable with no wobble, so the deadzone is approximately 0.03mm, Lekkers have 0.15mm bottom deadzone

[prime orbit]

An gotcha

Ah

[hard hawk]

Which layout you get tkl, 60% or 65?

Did they have a 65?

[prime orbit]

65 not out yet

[calm pulsar]

60

[prime orbit]

In development

[hard hawk]

It was a 60 but 6.25 and 7

[calm pulsar]

yeah i got 7u

[hard hawk]

Ahh

I got 6

Got raw on them and used like a random screw in stabs

I think I got durocks

Speaking about the 80he anybody got the modding kit from Toronto keyboard?

[calm pulsar]

7u split backspace, yoou only need 3 stabs

[hard hawk]

Last time then I go night night

[hard hawk]

Whaaa

[calm pulsar]

iirc it is the same stuff from keyboard fun store on aliexpress

[hard hawk]

This would’ve been nice to know if I did more research

[prime orbit]

In theory. I sell my wooting for venom. How much should I sell it for? Redux with black, friction fit, pc plate, Lucifer or raw, lyla keycaps?

[hard hawk]

Ooo thas niceee

I like the theme

[calm pulsar]

uhh not sure, but you can also sell separate parts ig

[hard hawk]

Tempted to get yakult keycaps but I dunno what case to get

I want a case that’s like a bit compact

[prime orbit]

Would $275 be fine?

Or too much

[hard hawk]

Any recc for cases?

Last last time

:3

[quasi hinge]

wonder what they will look like

[calm pulsar]

geon frog leggera come out soon

[prime orbit]

I got redux

[hard hawk]

I dunno mane

[fluid ravine]

[hard hawk]

No more moneyz:(

[fluid ravine]

whats your budget

Leggera is pretty good and cheap for the price

[calm pulsar]

these will be not like frog mini btw

[hard hawk]

Oh

[sacred elm]

I dont really care how they look, but it wont have separate diffuser so thats a W

[fluid ravine]

No official pricing but i can say it's a lot under $100

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hard hawk]

I thought they were almost like the frog

[fluid ravine]

nah

[hard hawk]

Have they listed yet?

Or not yet?

[fluid ravine]

The Frog Mini Pesante will prob be like frog price listing

[quasi hinge]

confirmed already?

[calm pulsar]

sounds like a lot, and finding a buyer for a complete build is probably kinda hard

[prime orbit]

Gotcha

[fluid ravine]

not yet, we're still waiting for it to be released internationally

[prime orbit]

Maybe $225-50

Hopefully

[calm pulsar]

has this been confirmed?

[hard hawk]

Where do I find that in geon server?

[fluid ravine]

Black and Silver will be the first two color variants that will be out

[prime orbit]

I’ve put a lot into it 😭😭

[fluid ravine]

They already did early release in their korean shop

[hard hawk]

I can’t lie I might cop the black

[hard hawk]

O

[calm pulsar]

i get it, just trying to imagine a buyers perspective

[sacred elm]

https://tenor.com/view/flood-pipe-gif-15999826281270001688

[prime orbit]

Nah u right. Hopefully I can make over $200

[quasi hinge]

daaaaaayuuuum and Im still waiting for my magnetos

[hard hawk]

Heck I might just search up the case

Too lazy to find in server

[fluid ravine]

yeah the early release people get like a discount and which i heard that they payed about 65-70k won which is like $50

[hard hawk]

O

Thas good

[fluid ravine]

uh instock

is like

90k won

[calm pulsar]

but thats local price tho

[fluid ravine]

iirc

hollup

[fluid ravine]

yeah again early release

[sacred elm]

ill probably get them next month

[fluid ravine]

ok so instock it will be like 95k won

so $65

there

[quasi hinge]

the magentos or the lekker mags lol

[hard hawk]

Man can’t find leggera on yt since you said it was early release

65

Might cop

I acc might get

[fluid ravine]

there aren't any reviews on it yet

[sacred elm]

Probably by then wooting will sell magnetos

[fluid ravine]

cus it's not like "offically" out as in sold internationally

so the only people that has it are the people in korea

geon

[quasi hinge]

I hope they at least price them reasonably lol

[hard hawk]

Has geon post pic on his server?

[fluid ravine]

yea

[hard hawk]

Which channel?

[quasi hinge]

I felt gauged lol

[hard hawk]

Oh boy

:3

[calm pulsar]

green one is insaynuh

[hard hawk]

Really nice green

I do agree

[sacred elm]

Yea same, I would buy them now but dont really want to pay 100$ for switches at this moment

[hard hawk]

With some cream keycaps would look nice?

[calm pulsar]

i think it would be elite
but nice with like black snail or wob too

[hard hawk]

Agreed

Will get for my venom

100%

[calm pulsar]

just saying Thackson got timed out xd

[hard hawk]

O

Dang

[sacred elm]

wait huh

why

[calm pulsar]

link

[sacred elm]

Ah auto timeout?

[hard hawk]

How’d he send a link I no see

[calm pulsar]

fk i shoulda said im a mod

[sacred elm]

real

[hard hawk]

😔

[calm pulsar]

yeah

inv link

[ionic breach]

gone but not forgotten

[hard hawk]

@calm pulsar you said there was same mod kit for 80he on Ali?

[calm pulsar]

yeah look up keyboard fun store, or just wooting compatible plates/sound packs

[hard hawk]

Wait I just found a tone

What abt the bone case

Compatible?

O

[calm pulsar]

yeah its for 80he

[hard hawk]

:3

[ionic breach]

BO NE

80 HE

[hard hawk]

This is too much kb investment

[ionic breach]

^ the reasoning of the name is funny

its cos it looks like 80he

[hard hawk]

Ooo

[calm pulsar]

leet

[hard hawk]

Spook

Alright I have asked all of my questions

Now I actually go night night

[calm pulsar]

gn gn

[hard hawk]

Goodnight :3

[fluid ravine]

IM BACK FROM THE DED BISHES!!!

[fluid ravine]

aww zanku

[sacred elm]

afaik they dont have foams in that store, only plates

[calm pulsar]

did yo time

[fluid ravine]

yeah it was a server inv, i meant to post channel link

[calm pulsar]

for 60he i did buy sound packs from them

[sacred elm]

yeah, they dont sell it for 80he currently, only plates

[fluid ravine]

so what im reading from geon is that, i shouldve fking order everything at once

[hard hawk]

BACK FROM THE SLEEPEGE

CAUSE IM TOO AWAKE

[hard hawk]

Wat u get :3

[fluid ravine]

Venom 7u PCB
Venom Plate, Alu and FR4
TypeplusxYIKB stabs
Geon Balanced Wire
Geon Spacers
Geon Brush
Switch Opener
Another set of RAW HE 60g switches

$167.97 in total

[hard hawk]

I can’t lie I should’ve gotten the balance wires

Woah

Wait did you buy the cable?

[fluid ravine]

cable?

[hard hawk]

From kbd fans

[fluid ravine]

no

[hard hawk]

O

[fluid ravine]

Cable has popped up in chat out of nowhere

[hard hawk]

🤷

[fluid ravine]

what cable are you talking abt

i confused

[hard hawk]

Uhh

Lemme find

[calm pulsar]

db/

?

[hard hawk]

Artmu

[fluid ravine]

no lie i do need a cable doe lol-

[hard hawk]

Wait not kbd

Divinity

Mb

[fluid ravine]

got a link

im curious

[hard hawk]

Ye

Lemme dm

I ain’t getting no auto tm

:3

[fluid ravine]

i dont think i have enough money to get a new cable sadly

[kind helm]

there is cable on divinikey?

[fluid ravine]

yeah should be

i wish i could be like CAM :(

brutha got the godly good looking cables

i envy

[kind helm]

ah the geon x artmu one is 8 dolla

[fluid ravine]

ohhhhhh

hmmm yeah ngl i shouldve ordered one

[kind helm]

no fancy connector though if that is your thing :3

[fluid ravine]

shouldve taken out the geon brush and replace it with that

[fluid ravine]

hmmmmm

i do wanna be a bit fancy

[hard hawk]

@fluid ravine sent

[fluid ravine]

might as well go all out

[hard hawk]

8 bucks

You can get shorely:3

[kind helm]

cablemod's cable me like, think 50-60 dolla after shipping, there is also a 30 something dollar one from kbdfan mr arc brought, he likes those too iirc

[hard hawk]

🧍

[fluid ravine]

Wiredin pretty top notch

[kind helm]

wirdin ones i remember pretty expensive though :3

[fluid ravine]

yeah they really are

but they look nice

[hard hawk]

Mkay I should go to sleep mhm

[fluid ravine]

really nice

[fluid ravine]

gn

[hard hawk]

Got me tempted to see what they look like

[kind helm]

[fluid ravine]

if you dont go to sleep ill grab a mod and temp mute you

[ionic breach]

im waiting for the antag to get mine

[hard hawk]

NO WAIT WAIT

[ionic breach]

his shipping cost are insane

[hard hawk]

LATS LAST LAST TIME

TRUST

:3

[kind helm]

said the guy who says hes not sleeping enough then show up 2 hours later

[fluid ravine]

[hard hawk]

HAH

[fluid ravine]

SHUT UP

I had to lock in with HW

i failed my test yesterday

i got a 48...

teach did a curve so it's now a 63 😂

[kind helm]

all good higher education == lower score

[fluid ravine]

realest shit i heard all day

[hard hawk]

^

Too real

I saw wires

They nice

NOW

[fluid ravine]

ugh pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee

[hard hawk]

I go bye bye

[fluid ravine]

even milky white looks nice 😭

[hard hawk]

💤💤😴

[ionic breach]

oh wait

i forgot wired has free shipping lmao

[calm pulsar]

o I have a black one

[kind helm]

i just sent a message to kbd people asking if they gonna restock

[fluid ravine]

all of them looks good no lie 😭

shipping expensive doe

[kind helm]

those are real nice for the price

[fluid ravine]

is it on ali?

[kind helm]

yes

[ionic breach]

they got c to c?

[kind helm]

i think 5 dolla shipping or something

[fluid ravine]

you have a link

ima shut off my setup

gonna go to sleep

or getting ready for bed

[kind helm]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805614657993.html

[fluid ravine]

New keyboard cover

[fluid ravine]

I want pure white

Thanks Josh

Need to save this somewhere

Yeah this could be the only cable I could afford

Oh shit I gotta also think about how I'm gonna route my keyboard since I'm gonna use mid usb

[kind helm]

for now

[fluid ravine]

[lapis raven]

in what world would a cable length that tiny reach a pc ?

that looks so small

[fluid ravine]

It's like 5ft I think

[lapis raven]

1.5m yeah

[ionic breach]

all that for a week of delivery