🔧│keyboard_modding

[sacred elm]

sorry

[kind helm]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-mickael-jackson-queendugif-ahah-hehe-gif-13642339

[lapis raven]

or were you actually talking about micheal jackson

[calm pulsar]

nah he ded

[lapis raven]

is mr mj an actual person in this discord that would know what to do or am i being super trolled

[kind helm]

[calm pulsar]

mj is real

[lapis raven]

ah okay

[calm pulsar]

btw 2nd benom retrieved

[kind helm]

freebird time?

[sacred elm]

benom

[kind helm]

cenom

[calm pulsar]

probably no, I will just save one for a daughterboard case and keep using one for frog mini

[kind helm]

just like me, one for tofu 2.0 and one for salvation. this is so nice btw

i use the louder salvation in the morning then use my slightly more quiet tofu at night

[calm pulsar]

lol nice

I also need to order benom mx

[kind helm]

that loud ass sound from salv helps me wake up LOLOL

[calm pulsar]

to use with lx60

[chilly mural]

Gettem!

[lapis raven]

is there any aftermarket cases for the 80HE ?

[sacred elm]

gt80

kbdfans

[calm pulsar]

aim bone80

[lapis raven]

is there one with adjustable tilt adjustment cause i like my keybaord on an angle

[calm pulsar]

wooting ones

[lapis raven]

sadge

[indigo oasis]

plateless or plated? which is better for clack

[calm pulsar]

maybe kbdfans is too, i dunno

[polar girder]

Jesus lol

What a shill

Bro

The Severence keyboard set is $195

That’s absurd

https://spkeyboards.com/collections/popular-sets/products/sa-macrodata-refinement

[calm pulsar]

lmao

[polar girder]

My wife and I are watching it and thought it would be sweet for when I build her a keyboard

But wtf lol

[calm pulsar]

riding on the show hype

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s a bit extreme

[calm pulsar]

its priced as if it was an official collab lol
even star wars gmk is cheaper

[calm pulsar]

nvm mandalorian set used to be 225 bucks but then became 75 xd

[fluid ravine]

type shi

[indigo oasis]

would plateless be able to hold the switches good?

like so the switches wont fall off

[calm pulsar]

they are not soldered on he

[fluid ravine]

There aren't enough pins for the switch to hold itself onto the pcb

and yeah not solderable either

[indigo oasis]

oh

how about a 5 pin switch would it stil work? (asking on my custom keyboard that is not a wooting)

[fluid ravine]

HE goes with HE, MX goes with MX

[indigo oasis]

what

[fluid ravine]

wait

are you asking if you could go plateless on a MX board?

[calm pulsar]

ig most preferable would be to solder

[indigo oasis]

yeah

i got a tofu65

[fluid ravine]

oh ok then what arcwyn said, at best you should do soldered

[indigo oasis]

alr

[kind helm]

mx hot swap can do plateless too i think. the 2 pins that actually send signal are pretty tight in the pcb

[jade storm]

Nah, I tried plateless hotswap. You have to be careful to not knock the keys over lol. I was able to control it but there was virtually no difference for me, with or without the plate

[kind helm]

MX though, you sure?

[jade storm]

Yeah

Oil Kings, DZ60 in a Tofu, burger mount

[kind helm]

interesting, i never did a plateless with mx but when i was testing stab with mx board the 2 pins were pretty tight

oil king's 5 pin too

idk

[crimson sky]

Varies per switch

Some gat switches are kinda loose, some are tighter

And then pcbs also vary

But also, why tf would you build an mx based tray mount custom in this day and age

[boreal raptor]

Hi guys, has anyone tried the ABS ultra thin low profile keycups on the Wooting 80HE and the Gateron jades switches?

I am just thinking about this one keycups to reach the fastest possible return key to improve speed/input lag:

https://shop.tai-hao.com/products/98white

what do you think?

[cyan lark]

Low profile keycaps won’t change the performance of your switch which retains its travel distance (3.4mm or so).

[boreal raptor]

hm, thank you

[stone flax]

did u buy it alr?

[spare summit]

Basically i have the og lekker switches L60, and im wondering whats the difference between v1 and v2

[little glen]

tolerances, wobble, magnet

[spare summit]

and if i should just get the linear45 or gateron jade switches

[little glen]

you should get jade pro or geon raw he

[spare summit]

which one would you get tho?

[little glen]

i already have geon raw he so i would get jade pro to try them

those two are generally accepted to be the best switches for wooting boards at the moment

theres also ttc pom but that ones super expensive

[barren wasp]

why is ttc pom so expensive

[little glen]

ttc decided that would be the price

[quasi hinge]

Limited release?

[calm pulsar]

getting ready

[little glen]

thats an expensive picture

[tropic urchin]

those stems are so red my OLED making it looks super crimson lmaooo

[calm pulsar]

lol iphone camera might be overdoing it a bit, but yeah they are red

[tropic urchin]

right after POE2 quit my game from 2-3k latency

[calm pulsar]

2-3k ping??

[tropic urchin]

prob just my monitor settings since I like it samsung saturated

[calm pulsar]

what da hell

[tropic urchin]

I was in the jungle of act 3 on cruel and my shit just spiked randomly

i took it as god saying to go to the gym so

[calm pulsar]

lol im going to the gym tomorrow too after a break

[tropic urchin]

I was like "okay this is cool oh nice a yellow..." spikes from 25 to 300 to 2,000 to 3,000 to 200 to 5,000

POE2.exe disappears

[calm pulsar]

were you on hc?

[tropic urchin]

nah

fuck that shit

id have to have like 1-2k hrs on it to understand the pitfalls before I sign myself up to put myself at the mercy of the servers

if I died to that, id never play HC again

[calm pulsar]

yeah it can be cruel sometimes
I saw a streamer dying in wow hc to a dc, and he was a couple of levels from hitting world first lvl 60 on that server

I lost my geon switch opener I can't find it😭

[tropic urchin]

I wish WoW became F2P, id prob play it more

not like it gets any real content updates thats really worth the base expansion cost + $15 monthly sub anymore

[kind helm]

meanwhile i found this thing when i went to visit my family. mama kept this from before i moved

[calm pulsar]

need it now

[kind helm]

it look better than its functionality.

[quasi hinge]

POMs?

[calm pulsar]

yeah

[quasi hinge]

I got some on the way too

Curious to get your thoughts

Although mine will be CF plate

[elfin topaz]

This is probably super subjective and there isn't a "correct" answer for it but I am gonna ask it anyways and have someone tell me I am stupid but.... What are the "best" switches for a FPS game? I just purchased a few of the the 80HE and was thinking of trying different switches in one.

[calm pulsar]

I will share once I find my damn switch opener and lube all of these 😄

[quasi hinge]

I have Raws but people say the ttc magneto poms are the best but pricey

I also use a CF plate so my 80he is more firm

[stone flax]

no such thing

[quasi hinge]

I personally like it for fps gaming

[quasi hinge]

My mistake, some people said the magneto poms are a cut above

[elfin topaz]

Yeah, I figured that was the answer.

[little glen]

speaking of

the plate seller on ali disappeared

[stone flax]

splitting hairs, at the end of the day the best switches are the ones you most enjoy playing on

[tropic urchin]

Sound will be loud enough to be abducted

[little glen]

went poof

[cyan lark]

Keyboard fun store?

[quasi hinge]

Come take me lol

[quasi hinge]

Well im gna try the magentos, will see

[tropic urchin]

Honestly might be more fun than the menial 2025 experience

[chilly mural]

Yes

[quasi hinge]

Although from what ive read you want to void that completely

[polar girder]

It sucks or what lol

I bought one but haven’t used it yet

[elfin topaz]

I just found the TTC Magneto online. I think I am gonna buy a set of them and test them out. I like that they are "stable". Thanks!

[quasi hinge]

Keyboard fun store?

[little glen]

yeah

[quasi hinge]

Change your location

[little glen]

[cyan lark]

Oh dang.

[quasi hinge]

It may only deliver to certain locations

Didnt deliver to me but I was able to use a forwarder

[little glen]

they dont sell iso plates anyway

so i will have to find someone to cut me some custom or something idk

[elfin topaz]

These ones correct?

[kind helm]

i think its easier to open switch with it, but its a bit harder to put the switch in place compare to the regular cheaper ones. so it ends up taking similar amount of time

[polar girder]

Gotcha

Effective but finnicky

Yeah I’ll see when I go to swap some Raw springs

[quasi hinge]

Cheers

Another guy @glacial wind recommended them and said they are very stable and have a longer spring

[quasi hinge]

There are 2 versions

[little glen]

dont buy the magnetos they are so expensive 😭

get jade pro

[quasi hinge]

They have the regular magneto and the magneto pom

The pom is newer and allegedly sounds nicer

[quasi hinge]

This is also a good option

I currently use Geon Raws 50g and they have been fantastic

[quasi hinge]

But according to the initiated, the magnetos are the most stable switch

[kind helm]

for lower than 0.1mm rt, i think jade pro maybe better

mr shafie is gonna cream hearing me say this

[quasi hinge]

Is it really lower than the raws

I figured they were basically the same except for the magnetos

[quasi hinge]

https://milktooth.com/products/switches/pom-magneto

[elfin topaz]

Should I consider the POM RGB since the keyboard has RGB lighting?

[kind helm]

so i was using raw with venom, the minimal rt that venom has in its beta firmware is 0.04mm. if i press down a switch and wiggle it, raw has a bit of issue

(this is kinda funny because raw is the recommended switch for venom)

[quasi hinge]

Your call, I play in the dark and it is light enough for me… my lighting is at 30% with a CF plate and still very nice

I havent heard issues but depends what your are looking for

Edit: I have yet to try the magnetos but wooting is pretty bright

[quasi hinge]

What issue?

[quasi hinge]

https://milktooth.com/products/switches/rgb-magneto

They have rgb but no rgb pom

So rgb vs pom

[elfin topaz]

In your opinion, you would go with the POM over RGB correct? If just based on performance?

[quasi hinge]

They should be about the same but im not 100% sure on this

The pom is the newer release and should sound ‘better’… I ordered the pom if that means anything

[kind helm]

it may lose the actuation when you are holding down a key at 0.04mm

if you wiggle it as you are holding down

[quasi hinge]

Have you tested magnetos on it?

[kind helm]

i am too cheap of a boy to purchase kom

[quasi hinge]

kom?

[kind helm]

king of magnets -> magnetos

[quasi hinge]

Apologies if I dont get the ref

[kind helm]

mr arc can probably test that he has it

[elfin topaz]

Got it. Yea that helps a lot. Newer is always better right?! Haha

[quasi hinge]

Oh really, have a link?

[quasi hinge]

Breathe that copium in

[kind helm]

its the same thing with different name

[calm pulsar]

lmao ttc have a tiny speck of lube at the bottom of the spring with dry ass housing and stem

💀

[quasi hinge]

Yeah sno said they need to be lubed

[quasi hinge]

So all the magnetos are the same then

[kind helm]

and that turns me off too. mf if i pay over 50 dolla for a switch it better be lubed AND broken in

[kind helm]

nah theres the rgb one and the pom one. but they are all "kom" switches

like gateron has jade, jade pro, jade max, jade gaming and whatever

[quasi hinge]

Ahhh got it, thank you for explaining

I thought it was ttc

[cinder mango]

what kind of screwdriver do I need to take the plate out of the case?

[kind helm]

ttc is the brand that made them

[quasi hinge]

Funny thing is the quickest way to get the right answer on the internet is to say the wrong answer publicly lol

[kind helm]

yee

[tropic urchin]

Yikers

Curious to see if they live up to the $1 per switch moniker over JP/RAWs

[calm pulsar]

I can already feel for gaming and if you're looking for most stability they are it

we'll see about the sound

[tropic urchin]

Fuck

[kind helm]

bro is tempted

ah s44t

[chilly mural]

is it smooth?

[sly vector]

I just got raptor he switches, and was wondering if anyone knows if they can support cera key space bars. Ik stock switches can, but idk if the raptors will be able to.

[tropic urchin]

I can’t even buy 10 pc without fully swapping pros over to FR4 ugh

[kind helm]

i think that depends on the weight

worst case you get some heavier spring from either wooting or geon

[sly vector]

The space bars like 20ish grams

[quasi hinge]

Thank you, nice

[stone flax]

why did u choose to buy raptors

[icy dew]

Does anybody know some high quality PBT Dye-Sub / Double Shot keycap vendors?

Like is PBTfans considered high quality PBT?

Or NovelKeys?

And would a double-shot keycap from a reliable vendor be considered "higher quality/more expensive" than a dyesub? I've heard their more expensive to produce because you have to have an individual mold for each legend, but does that make them any worse than dyesub?

[cinder mango]

how do I take the stabs off of the plate and how do I put them back on?

[icy dew]

youtube

[thorn zealot]

just get dyesub

[regal nest]

man is it fun watching this clown show of a keyboard release over at finalmouse discord

public release sold out in 30 seconds

with strong anti bot protection activated

[quasi hinge]

How many were available?

[regal nest]

5k apparently

but thats a big cope, getting through the capture alone takes half a minute at best

[little glen]

How does that shit sell out man 😭

I dont understand finalmouse customers

[regal nest]

from time to time i buy something just to flip it for fun. but i dont resell for a high margin. i just wanna see how the quality is, use the product for a day and flip for +10%

i think i tried 4 mice at this point and everyone of them had a qc issue

[little glen]

I dont understand people that buy things like this fr fr

And i bought an 80he during founders campaign

[chilly mural]

Ehh. I thought they do more since wooting do 10k

[regal nest]

honestly the ulx version is a good mouse. and maybe id kept one if id been confident in it surviving any amount of months of use

[tidal frigate]

They are razer customers ok

[little glen]

Nah i have more respect for razer customers tbh

[tidal frigate]

Founders campaign for 80he was 20k for first batch

[chilly mural]

Oh, i thought 10k, soo many, and barely any is a reseller

[regal nest]

razer at least releases a good product every now and then

[rustic charm]

i had a quick question. i swapped out the lekker with magnetos and the magnetos have a shorter travel. from what i have seen, the wooting calibrates on power up yes? my question is, is it normal for the visual feedback in the software to show that the travel is going the full 4.0?

[tidal frigate]

Like what

[regal nest]

like the v3 pro?

or the early blackwidow keyboards

[little glen]

Normal yes

[quasi hinge]

Razer has terrible bloatware

[tidal frigate]

It is seen as 4mm in software but actually it is diffrent

[little glen]

There will be a switch selector at a later date that lets you choose the travel for your switch so it‘s correct

I cant say too many bad things about razer considering they upgraded my laptop twice due to a warranty issue

[tidal frigate]

Looks like razer w

[quasi hinge]

Would it be advantageous to keep it at 4.0 even if you have 3.4/3.5 switches?

[little glen]

Nope no advantage

Purely visual

[quasi hinge]

Okay ty

[rustic charm]

ah i see. so its just a visual thing then? i dont need to do math here?

[tidal frigate]

Kinda you need

[little glen]

Its purely visual but you do need to do some math

Key travel is 40 steps for the whole thing

[tidal frigate]

But yeah keep it 0.1mm higher

Than you would on 4mm

[little glen]

So for a lekker switch its 0.1mm for shorter switches its a bit less for each step

[quasi hinge]

How do you like the magentos and did you lube them?

[marsh saffron]

Surely this time it'll actually be continuous production

Cant wait for 2026 when only 2-3 batches have shipped

[quasi hinge]

Could ‘around’ mean june the following year

[tidal frigate]

Is finalmouse company to launder money ?

[static zealot]

it sold out in 12 seconds too

had it in my cart, clicked "buy now" - said sold out and removed from cart. Instantly went and bought the wooting optimum keyboard and ended up here LOL

[little glen]

Probably better anyway

[static zealot]

probably XD

[chilly mural]

Welcome. Also you're not limited to use that case on wooting board only so even better!

Unlike Centerpiece being mostly proprietary

[static zealot]

100% haven't even begun to figure out all the stuff people are doing with their boards here!

[rustic charm]

they feel great very consistent throughout the travel and on the clackier side which i prefer which i paired with a carbon fiber plate. no i didn't lube them which they def need to be but am probably gonna be to lazy to do tbh lol

[quasi hinge]

Thanks for the response, got a CF plate with the raws rn, waiting on the magnetos atm

Guy who recommended them also recommended lubing them

[rustic charm]

how do u like the raws? that was my second choice if i didn't get the magnetos

[marsh saffron]

W mans

Better off that way

[marsh saffron]

Wouldn't be surprised

[quasi hinge]

I like them a lot, I actually have no good reason to switch

[quasi hinge]

Here

They have a few versions

That is pom

What does your heart tell you

Follow it

Lmao

Apparently they are good but that is your call

[harsh dove]

That board was designed to be put on a shelf anyway, Wootings were made to actually be used

Creators will talk about it for a week then you'll see it on the shelf behind them

I'd wait to buy TTCs

[tidal frigate]

I wonder if boardzy will shill it

[harsh dove]

Imo it's not a keyboard that's gonna replace people's everday keyboards

esp competitive gamers which is what Wooting aims at

That board is not made for that obvs

Which to me is a bit odd considering they make Mice for that reason

[static zealot]

Actually more excited for this board. The black on black is too clean

[icy dew]

how tf u gonna see that screen with keycaps on

this is a gimmick

[kind helm]

plenty of people dont need to read the keycaps.

[icy dew]

yeah nah just get a wooting bro

[icy dew]

this is advertised to GAMERS, most gamers are more regular people, who like having a keyboard with legends

[kind helm]

or venom at a better price for better performance

[icy dew]

its not about actually requiring them to type

[marsh saffron]

The keycaps are clear

And also proprietary

[icy dew]

idk thats just so wonky looking

[marsh saffron]

I mean yeah

[icy dew]

no pro valorant player or something is gonna be rocking the nemo background hitting radiant lol

[marsh saffron]

I don't see why not

So long as the board performs how it should for the claimed specs

[icy dew]

but if you're buying it fully okay with not having legends, and fully clear keys to have basically an animated wall paper for your kb thats cool ig

i just wouldnt want someone to be disappointed with it, especially for $350

[kind helm]

in terms of safty, stability, and repairability, i think maybe ass. But it do be looking sexy

[icy dew]

all of the HE functionality better be comparable to wooting, i mean for the price it should be just as good

[meager abyss]

wait the centerpiece has he?

[kind helm]

350 honestly not too bad for the look, for sure its unique

[harsh dove]

Like I said, not tryna hate lol, it just belongs on a shelf (plugged in of course)

[meager abyss]

oh shit

wait wym patented 😭

finalmouse was NOT the first one to come up with this

[harsh dove]

they patented some part of their design

which is fine

[icy dew]

every company can develop a widespread product with their own unique design

[harsh dove]

cause nobody gonna use it anyway

[meager abyss]

yeah ofc

wasn't wooting the one who invented he tho

[harsh dove]

No

Honeywell

[meager abyss]

oh

[kind helm]

it most likely means they paid some companies that no one knows to get a bs certification

[meager abyss]

oh lmao

[meager abyss]

I've never heard of them lol

[icy dew]

like different types of vaccums. If you invented the vaccum cleaner, you aren't the only one that can sell a vaccum, but your specific type is what you hold the rights to.

[harsh dove]

Old old company

[meager abyss]

yeah that makes sense

[meager abyss]

alr

[harsh dove]

well tbf they didn't invent it

they just created the first commercially available hall effect switches

[icy dew]

yeah they leached off something that was already invented. and "innovated" hopefully

[icy dew]

they did?

[harsh dove]

back in the 1960s

yeah

[icy dew]

oh are you referring to some other kb?

[icy dew]

oh thats cool

i never knew how old HE was

[harsh dove]

Yeah it goes back

just been innovated on since

[icy dew]

ig our manufacturing and design methods have finally caught up to make it cheap enough to produce

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[icy dew]

so goofy the keyboard has computer specs lol

[kind helm]

good weight too

[harsh dove]

Wonder if that'll have any effect on peoples PC performance

[kind helm]

yea i read they have and cpu and gpu there, which is kinda sus

[harsh dove]

since it has it's own

[icy dew]

cant wait to see someone run doom on the keyboard alone lmao

[kind helm]

probably just for the effects and possibly stalking

[icy dew]

i doubt it would. It probably processes all of the images and video on-board

[harsh dove]

Yeah

I can already see people doing some wild things with that screen

[icy dew]

lmao

[marsh saffron]

Idk about sexy, imo a bit too gimmicky for that. But I can't lie it does look cool

[kind helm]

imo its kinda bad maketing in a way, that kinda of stuff is more for keyboard nerds rather than comp gamer that part i agree with mr diamond

[icy dew]

apparently they still sold out in 12 seconds, their community just fully trusts this will be good bc of the Final Mouse

[marsh saffron]

Their community always does that

They are worse than apple die hards

[kind helm]

was final mouse the first one that raise fckin mice price to 200

i remember they were at least one of the first then other companies started doing it too

[marsh saffron]

Maybe not the first but they definitely were the ones doing it very early on

[kind helm]

dumb mf buying mices thinking like oh this is gonna make me tenz

[icy dew]

yeah in no world does a mouse cost nearly that much

[marsh saffron]

Their products have always been overpriced

[marsh saffron]

Especially so the ulx

[icy dew]

they making all this money

and cant design a better website

i could literally make a better website by myself

Im trying to decide between these 2 keycap sets

which one is better

[harsh dove]

Yeah thats basically how I feel about, its tryna be marketed towards competitive gaming but to me it's not for that at all

that's what wooting is for

[little glen]

i wonder how many support requests they will have from people covering it with suspicious viscous liquid

[harsh dove]

Yeah im curious about warranty tbh

[cyan lark]

It's just a shopify template site

[icy dew]

omg ur right

[cyan lark]

https://finalmouse.com/admin

[icy dew]

broooo

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/macgruber-im-in-imin-gif-24174214

[icy dew]

they couldnt even be bothered

[kind helm]

or venom at 60%

80he though as a pre-built fucks

[cyan lark]

In their defense it kinda makes sense. Their business isn't running a site to sell keyboards, it's making keyboards 🤷

[icy dew]

I kinda like the look of these more though, but they're like $42, about half the price as the PBTfans; which makes me think they're gonna feel cheap

[cyan lark]

Maybe they coulda done a better job w/ the tools, I dunno.

[kind helm]

i think i agree with what you mean but the wording got me confused af

not sell keyboards but make keyboards

[icy dew]

their entire business is kinda their advertising/ aesthetic of being "cool" and preformance/gaming, so i would assume they would have some super high quality website to sell that

[cyan lark]

Well they want to sell them, but building/maintaining/making sure a site is secure is a forever job

[icy dew]

i mean honestly im sure shopify has better looking templates Xd

[cyan lark]

Oh almost certainly, I'm just not familiar with the tools myself is all

[uneven cradle]

not according to finalmouse

[polar girder]

lol

[tidal frigate]

[thorn zealot]

most def!!

[icy dew]

alr i think im getting these keycaps for my 80he

they're not the highest quality double shot pbt, i would've been willing to spend double for the PBTfans, but they didnt have any designs i liked as much as these Ghost Judges

[thorn zealot]

dyesub is better for the deeper sound u want but ig'

[icy dew]

thats been a conflicting thing throughout my research

some people say double shot is deeper/denser, and others say dye sub is better

[harsh dove]

LOL

I appreciate the confidence

but

[thorn zealot]

double shot is usually a blend

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[icy dew]

im leaning towards double shot being deeper sounding because it makes more sense. There's an entire extra layer of plastic beneath the keycap. I would assume this extra bulkyness makes it more thock

[icy dew]

it probably will be with these cheaper ones as well. But I still think more plastic=deeper sound

[harsh dove]

You could buy 3x Wooting Modules for the cost of that board

60HE anyway

or 2x 80HE

[icy dew]

ok now im second guessing myself XD

these icons actually look dope

especially that delete key, thats smart lol

i would honestly prefer to buy PBTfans just because i know it would be basically the best quality PBT double shot i could get

i wouldnt want to cheap out on the keycaps just because it looks better, but then it feels or sounds worse than would it could've been

ok maybe i'll go with Resonance R2

[night atlas]

resonance seems cooler to me

plus the customization optinos

[thorn zealot]

just know that only the solid colors are pbt

[icy dew]

everything not brown is PBT

according to this

[thorn zealot]

the colored wasd too is abs

[icy dew]

this is abs?

[thorn zealot]

no not the black

the white red green and blue one

[icy dew]

o

how do you know

[thorn zealot]

they are transparent

[icy dew]

u sure?

this looks pretty solid to me

i dont see anything transparent

[thorn zealot]

idk

[icy dew]

did you hear that somewhere, or did you just assume that

from the pictures it looks like the brown is the only transparent one

[harsh dove]

that set so nice

[thorn zealot]

i just assumed since they were packed with the browns

so ig they are pbt too

my fault

[harsh dove]

Yeah only the transparent ones are ABS

[icy dew]

yeah i bought them

finally done with keycaps

[night atlas]

dont forget to post pics of your build btw!!

[magic plume]

Of course def will!

[night atlas]

ttc poms came in... made sure i had no plans so i can lube all this shit lmao

[tawdry tree]

For the modern “gaming” HE boards: AcePadTech first, then Steelseries and then Wooting. Woot was in the analog game first though, afaik.

[little glen]

Does anyone know a place in EU where i can get custom cut plates

Cause i cant get the 80he plates that are out there atm and they dont even sell iso plates

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-wawrinka-warm-up-warming-up-stretching-tennis-gif-8241961066863755369

Make sure to stretch

[harsh dove]

How can you be done?

[night atlas]

okay wow, you guys weren't kidding, there's like 0 lube on it

[tawdry tree]

Any service close to you really but you need to slightly adjust the plate file.

[harsh dove]

Must buy more

[night atlas]

only at the bottom of the spring

lmao

speed running carpal tunnel any%

[cyan lark]

Need more keyboards to put the caps on 🧠

[harsh dove]

Yes

[little glen]

Idk how to find those 😭

Also no idea what i‘d need to adjust etc

[cyan lark]

Speaking of which, I have some extra caps, stabs, and a 60% case. What's a cheap but decent board I should put in it for travel?

[kind helm]

10 sets of caps, thats already 1k. #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[tawdry tree]

“CNC/Laser cut service near me” on google.

[kind helm]

400 dolla of switches there at least

[tawdry tree]

Instead of standoffs, they’d need to be holes, so the plate can be cut from 1.5mm (of any material they have).

[kind helm]

then frog + salvation 600

2k of items on that table alone

[harsh dove]

Venom is cheap

If you can get one

[tawdry tree]

“cheap”

[kind helm]

bakeneko go with venom60

[little glen]

Oh and i guess i have to provide my own standoffs then?

[cyan lark]

That's not a bad idea, then I wouldn't need switches either

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, KBD has a kit

[kind helm]

cheaper*

[tawdry tree]

could prob find them on Ali as well

[harsh dove]

What about that Gateron gt60

Haven’t looked into it

[cyan lark]

Are the venom pcbs in limited supply or something?

[harsh dove]

Not sure

Haven’t been keeping up

[little glen]

Dont seem like they are

[tawdry tree]

Decent afaik, software looks interesting

[little glen]

[tawdry tree]

Wym?

[little glen]

Referring to this

[tawdry tree]

ah

[little glen]

I havent seen any indication of venom being limited in some specific way but maybe i just wasnt paying attention

[harsh dove]

Just nabbed myself a 9800X3D thru stock alerts 🚨

[cyan lark]

Gotcha, thanks, I'll take a peek and see how much that'd run me

[icy granite]

wait what do u use

[harsh dove]

Which I don’t need but I’ll take it

7800X3D

[icy granite]

im looking to get a r7 5700x3d

i have a crappy r7 3700 and i play rust

rocking a solid 30fps on raids

[little glen]

Wait i just realised

[harsh dove]

[little glen]

Maybe my uni has some laser cutting equipment and i can get someone there to make me something

Time to use all my connections (i know one guy that works in an unrelated lab)

[tawdry tree]

Well, you can get someone to help change the plate slightly for sure

can get the m2 3.5mm standoffs from anywhere

same with the screws

[uneven cradle]

Meanwhile I'm thinking maybe my 9700k can hold out another couple of years

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol, I really don't need the upgrade but 7800X3Ds selling used on ebay for around $380 so I figure its about a $120-130 upgrade

the 9800x3d was $507 after tax

[little glen]

i think its really funny that i technically made a profit on my 7800x3d

[uneven cradle]

pretty good, think best I've seen them go for here is about $528 USD after tax

but they have gone up since then

at the moment it's like $600

[marsh saffron]

Oh my

[kind helm]

👅

[marsh saffron]

Idk what's more rough that cpu on rust or the fact that people still play rust

[icy granite]

probably the latter

[marsh saffron]

Game went to shit after new recoil imo

[icy granite]

2022 was not a good year for rust

[marsh saffron]

Game was toast before but that was the nail inthr coffin for me

[icy granite]

the devs are trying so hard to please new gens and make the game more "role play" like

[little glen]

i've been eyeing those keycaps for a while now

[marsh saffron]

I miss 2017/18 rust

2019 wasn't bad either

[little glen]

i just dont have a board to put them on

[icy granite]

i only played in 2020 :(

still experienced old recoil thjo

[marsh saffron]

I played since early 2016

7k hours on old recoil 💔

[icy granite]

ngl the wooting 0.1mm acution point is too sensitive for me

[marsh saffron]

I use 0.3

[icy granite]

the ammount of times ive accidentally pressed a key

[marsh saffron]

If i use 0.1 my tremors fuck up my inputs

[icy granite]

yea exactly

i brush i key and it rtegisters

a

[marsh saffron]

I don't accidentally press keys

But rather let go of them

[icy granite]

dont get me wrong i love my wooting

[marsh saffron]

Unless I mash my fingers into the keys

[sacred elm]

even with heavier springs?

[marsh saffron]

My tremors make me deactivate keys on 0.15 rt

[marsh saffron]

Haven't went higher than l60

[sacred elm]

but actually nvm it will be worse with heavy springs

when you bottom out

[marsh saffron]

Yeah

L35s could be nice for me

And my broken ass hands

[sacred elm]

lol that sucks

[marsh saffron]

I'm fine on 0.3 rt/actuation

[sacred elm]

ive been using 0.1 0.15 on wasd for like 2 years

[marsh saffron]

I used to

When my tremor wasn't as bad

0.3 is still plenty responsive

[icy granite]

i think thats probably the best

on 0.1 i accidentally brush the keys ALOT

0.4 all round and 0.1 wasd is good

[marsh saffron]

I use 1.5 all around wasd 0.3

[sacred elm]

I got used to it, i slightly hover over the keys

[marsh saffron]

Basically yeah^

[sacred elm]

and i dont tap accidentally

[marsh saffron]

When I first got my 60he i used 0.1 on all for 5 days straight

Got used to how to use 0.1 pretty quick

[sacred elm]

yea

[icy granite]

i wanna get a kbd case with the optimum grey keycaps

i have a stock wooting rn

[marsh saffron]

White tofu + pbtfans xray🤍

[sacred elm]

I liked optimum case but now when I look at it, bezels are so thick lol

[icy granite]

i just like how sleek it is

and very minimal

[sacred elm]

yea I like that

[marsh saffron]

I like my door wedge

[icy granite]

are u talking about the take control strap mount?

[marsh saffron]

Nah thr tofu redux

[icy granite]

ohh

tbh i never thought id ever mod a keyboard

i had a duck one 2 mini for 3 years

stock

but something about my wooting speaks to me

[marsh saffron]

I new id eventually mod mine

Had it for nearly a year before I lubed my switches and got a pc plate

From there I went full custom

[icy granite]

the optimum case is like 110 quid for me

i got the stock wooting for 160 so theres no way i can justify spending that much for the aluminum case

[little glen]

you should consider https://novelkeys.com/collections/keyboards/products/random-wilba-tech-salvation

[finite wave]

Any creamiest switches compatible with wooting 80he

[sacred elm]

none

jade pros are nice tho

[icy granite]

could i mix and match switches?

like have L45 switches on wasd and L60 on the restr

[little glen]

yeah that should be fine

it might feel weird for typing tho

[icy granite]

i mainly use my wooting for gaming anyways

[sacred elm]

yeah

[icy granite]

any of you guys tried the l45?

i wanna know what its like comepared to the l60

[little glen]

just lighter

thats it

if you want to try some different switches, give geon raw he or gateron jade pro a try

[icy granite]

ok thanks for the advice

[south flax]

does anyone know if wootings switch opener works on the Geon Raw HE's?

[rough hornet]

Any keyboard color recommendations I can’t seem to find one I like

[stone flax]

yes

[south flax]

ty

[harsh dove]

You probably won’t like this answer, however… I believe keyboards are best experienced with the RGB Off.

[thorn zealot]

no rgb is the best color

[rough hornet]

i would think so to if i had keycaps but with black keycaps you need

[thorn zealot]

wym u need it

[night atlas]

lubed my TTC poms

i'm convinced they're the goat

they're not as sharp stock/lubed as videos make it seem

they're poppy if anything, but of course that's partially responsible due to the mods/configuration

[thorn zealot]

i would try them if they werent so damn ugly and expensive

[tropic urchin]

yeah stock is an abomination

that shit is sharp enough to arouse the dead

[harsh dove]

I didn’t think they were as sharp as people made em out to be either

I like em

All loobed up

[tropic urchin]

if they stay decent sounding after lube breaks in, i may try em but also dont wanna pay the $1 per again 😭

[harsh dove]

Yeah I did tape mod with some keebtape and polyfill with carbon fiber plate on mine

In the 80He

[night atlas]

wym again?

[tropic urchin]

after you fully lube it takes a few days for it to break in fully

[night atlas]

yea, that's what turned me off on them originally

[tropic urchin]

so my fear is they'll revert but maybe they wont

[gaunt plume]

I made a table of magnetic switches. It is mainly Japanese, but Chinese is also mixed. The material of the part is currently being entered.
Please let me know if you have any requests.
https://sprinkle-wok-07e.notion.site/1483e206b5dc8008a760c0fe2629fb2a

[tropic urchin]

i wouldnt take my fears as gospel, im very particular

[night atlas]

no worries, was just confused

[tropic urchin]

im probably just chasing ghosts with it

[night atlas]

whatchu got on ur board now?

[tropic urchin]

currently CF plate + Jade pros with L45 springs

[night atlas]

I'm done chasing thocky, like everyone else who first started building their wooting lol

[tropic urchin]

true true

its fun seeing everyone elses builds

[night atlas]

I've grown to like other types now

[tropic urchin]

i dont like clicky but clacky is where its at

[night atlas]

clicky is still a hard no

though, my friend has a low profile case (not keycaps) w/clicky switches

and it was nice

not nice enough for me to prefer them tho jaja

[tropic urchin]

the main thing keeping me away from KOMs beside the perceived sharpness is whether they're worth $1 per over jade pros/RAWs

[night atlas]

fair

i was just desperate for less stem wobble

[harsh dove]

My man leveled up

Everyone goes for thock at first

then they learn

[night atlas]

cant blame em

but yes ive grown

[harsh dove]

What about Thicky

instead of Thocky

we develop Thicky

[barren wasp]

I just accepted the clack

[sacred elm]

TOCKY

[marsh saffron]

Need me a keyboard that sounds like squidward walking

[polar girder]

A low, deep sound is still desirable. I just had to ditch any idea of it for HE lol

Prefer to have a half way decent switch and forget about the sound of it

[digital garnet]

do i have to lube the geon raws myself or are they fine factory lubed?

[tropic urchin]

prob best factory lube job tbh

wouldnt bother

[digital garnet]

alr good to hear. i hate lubing tbh

[sweet oak]

You gonna share?

[fluid ravine]

Can I get a crumb

[sweet oak]

Just a stem from one is enough

[fluid ravine]

Donate to the hunger

[tropic urchin]

luckily only need 84-85 switches max

[fluid ravine]

I'm just bones

[tidal frigate]

They are not my favorite, i prefer original flavour of lekkers

[sweet oak]

I’m just carbon ash

Completely disintegrated

[fluid ravine]

sigh
We lost one

[sweet oak]

Only a switch can save me now

[fluid ravine]

Farewell besto friendo

[sweet oak]

Wait… is that

GEON?

[fluid ravine]

[sweet oak]

The savior

[fluid ravine]

[tidal frigate]

Guys remember wooting 60tmr is a thing

[fluid ravine]

[tidal frigate]

It will be

[sweet oak]

Geon deer switches when

[fluid ravine]

Geon Thack Switches when

[sweet oak]

Gotta get the collab rolling

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

PREACH BRUTHA PREACH

[fluid ravine]

I need my Mr. Krabs

[harsh dove]

Yeah we just not there yet with HE tbh

[uneven cradle]

Embrace clack

[tidal frigate]

YET

Until crunchy delicious switch is released

[night atlas]

so hear me out

i heard someone's keyboard that sounded like the iphone typing noise

and it sounded lowkey fire

just think about it rq

[sacred elm]

lol

[harsh dove]

I could see it, but was it an HE board?

[night atlas]

oh nah just a regular mechanical

[tidal frigate]

Iphone eww

[night atlas]

aye man i aint here to start an iphone android debate

just thought it sounded cool

[sacred elm]

💀

[harsh dove]

Yeah figured

[worldly phoenix]

Is it worth lubing jade pro

[quasi hinge]

W

[sacred elm]

theres no debate

iphone is clear winner there

🥶

[glacial wind]

Yeah everyone knows iPhone, pineapple on pizza and overwatch are the best

[tropic urchin]

If you notice plasticky sound during use

[uneven cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/disgusted-cat-concerned-cat-annoyed-annoyed-face-ugh-cat-gif-3889081756430967663

[sacred elm]

pineapple on pizza he said

enough discord for today

🤮

[quasi hinge]

Me before coffee or tea in the am

[sacred elm]

me in marvel rivals

[tropic urchin]

Pineapple on pizza would make me want to play marvel rivals too

[sacred elm]

what makes you play r6 bro 😭

it must be so bad 😭

[cyan lark]

Keep eating it until you want to play Overwatch

[tropic urchin]

Because I can’t play Warzone

R6 is the last FPS game I have

Albeit not great, but that’s a French Canadian problem and not mine

[sacred elm]

real

[tropic urchin]

I am crashing out on it for the season tho, tis too much

[quasi hinge]

Warzone isnt that great

[sacred elm]

dont even want to hear that game

[quasi hinge]

Dont laugh but I play cod mobile on PC using gameloop

Its like gta, cod, pub g and CS all rolled into one

[tropic urchin]

It was a lot of fun before, but died for me in Al mazrah

Then AA was too broken to have fun as KBM

[quasi hinge]

Officially supported and has separate servers from mobile and PC

[sacred elm]

al mazrah 😭

[quasi hinge]

I only play BR mode

[sacred elm]

actually mw3 warzone wasnt that bad, but it was so annoying getting shadow banned every week

I uninstalled it

I was literally getting shadow banned every week for being reported

[tropic urchin]

I had a 7.0 KD with the chimera sniper support

[quasi hinge]

Its like crack

[sacred elm]

I wasnt playing second warzone that much because it was so slow

[quasi hinge]

Dont try it

[tropic urchin]

Shit was really fun and then once they took away playlists for the resurgence map and forced you into their shitty ranked system, it died

[sacred elm]

third was fun

[quasi hinge]

I played 7,678 matches so far

💀

[tropic urchin]

Then you get to diamond and all you get are DMA fucks and ppl with a crack IV drip

[sacred elm]

yea I also played only resurgence/resurgence ranked in mw3 warzone, those big ass maps are so bad

[tropic urchin]

That shit is just controller central 💀

[sacred elm]

Yea

[sacred elm]

7700 matches 💀

[tropic urchin]

But yeah, they took away the fun I had in OG + caldera and now I only have R6

[quasi hinge]

The game is amazing but only BR mode

Takes all the best elements of cod, pub g, gta and CS and rolls them into a combo that simply works

But only worth playing on PC via gameloop which is officially supported

3rd person view is great

Check out Cod Narco on yt and see his gameplay

The guy can take on a whole team 4 v 1

[quasi hinge]

Cod m is like injecting adrenaline right into the vein each game lol

It surely has wiped years off my life 😂

[jade storm]

What makes the Raw HE’s so good?

[quasi hinge]

Value proposition plus they are good switches

For the price, they are good and I am using them right now

[quasi hinge]

Yum

Tried them yet?

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’ve had em for a couple weeks now , swapping keycaps

[quasi hinge]

Ahhh okay right I think I asked you before

[harsh dove]

Gonna see how GMK DOLCH looks

[quasi hinge]

Nice pic though

[fluid ravine]

What we looking at here

[quasi hinge]

Boss setup

[harsh dove]

Thanks man, appreciate it

[harsh dove]

Random nothingness

[fluid ravine]

Looks goodo

[harsh dove]

Just felt like posting a pic without the keycaps lol

[fluid ravine]

[quasi hinge]

Eye candy

Could be a shot from cyber punk where the protagonist needs to build his own 80he

[chilly mural]

Beauty

[quasi hinge]

You use any rgb?

[harsh dove]

Nah

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-12686883553708718330

[night atlas]

so fire

do you have a pic without the red lighting

[quasi hinge]

Beauty

Fits the case too

Cf plate with magentos

W

[harsh dove]

Just need Wooting to make black silicone gasket now

Instead of white

[gaunt perch]

does the carbon fibre pattern show through the ghost case or not really?

[harsh dove]

No

But it helps everything look darker

White PC plate

Can been seen by the LED Indicator Bar for example

[night atlas]

fireeee

yea i'm church of ttc now

idc what anyone says

i tried em all

[quasi hinge]

I like

[quasi hinge]

Any on ali express?

Black

[cyan lark]

I don’t think anyone on here has gotten KoMs and disliked them 😊

[harsh dove]

I got my CF plate off AliE, I think they had other materials in Black

like FR4 etc

[sacred elm]

Maybe ill get them in future too :D

im chill with jade pros rn

[harsh dove]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808193742069.html

[cyan lark]

Jade pros are great, I still use them on my other build. Different flavor

[night atlas]

@fluid ravine

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TR5KMZZ?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

so i did a closer inspection (mine came in today)

and they're just the unbranded

version of the omnitype lube pens

[sacred elm]

Yeah, I dont plan to swap them anytime soon

[fluid ravine]

Oh shit it does look like it

[harsh dove]

I like Jade Pros

good switchy

[quasi hinge]

I have a CF plate from keyboard fun store already but I was wondering if for you they sold a black silicone gasket on ali express

[harsh dove]

Oh nah not that I've seen but I also haven't looked for one

Well actually, I guess there is that Toronto Keyboardman that has the foam gasket kit

but don't think he had black silicone, just foam

[quasi hinge]

Okay fair enough

Wonder if they can make a transparent one

[steel ibex]

wait guys
can i jsut buy like
the wooting lekker switch
and put them into like
a keychron
and basically have a wooting

or do i need the pcb

[lapis raven]

isnt the software what makes a wooting a wooting ?

[sacred elm]

no

there is nothing special in lekker switch

pcb/software/firmware is the main thing

[steel ibex]

so if i buy the module i can use it?

[sacred elm]

you need module yes

and compatible switches

[quasi hinge]

And a case that fits

[steel ibex]

yeah but it fits in most cases no?

either way its way out my budget lmao

[quasi hinge]

Ummmmm

[steel ibex]

time to go back to looking at huntsman minis

is the huntsman v3 better or the wooting 60he?

[quasi hinge]

60he?

Get the pcb, comes with switches? And a cheap case

[sacred elm]

no

[steel ibex]

yeah ig

[uneven cradle]

the hunstman v3 also not HE it uses optical switches

[steel ibex]

yea ik

im just saying huntsman is also a good optical keyboard no?

[quasi hinge]

Not sure if this is the best place to ask haha

[sacred elm]

huntsman sucks

[quasi hinge]

We are biased to wooting

[steel ibex]

would a keychron v1 with knob be worth less then a logitech 60 x lightspeed?

[steel ibex]

real

[sacred elm]

and im not saying because i own wooting

huntsman sucks

[steel ibex]

totally not

yup

0 buyers regret here

[sacred elm]

yes

totally not

[quasi hinge]

But, HE boards are night and day difference

[steel ibex]

yup

no bias

[sacred elm]

??

[stray apex]

does this come with the keycaps?

[quasi hinge]

Yo, regardless of brand, HE boards are superior

[steel ibex]

i just realised he means hall effect lmao

[steel ibex]

yea

is there a list of he boards

[quasi hinge]

I dunno man, wooting is the best and easiest for me

Within my budget, not looking for anything else

[steel ibex]

yea butbro its so expensive lmao

[quasi hinge]

There are others here that know more than me

[steel ibex]

dude i got a logitech 60 x lightspeed rn bruh

i traded for my semi broken but still works fine keychron v1 with knob

ok it wasent that bad

maybe it was a bit bad but still

[quasi hinge]

Whatever HE board you get, you will never willing go back lol at least for gaming

[steel ibex]

he also gave me a huntsman elite so yk what its fine

[steel ibex]

yea

[quasi hinge]

Its like going to oled from ips or va

[steel ibex]

its like heroin!

[steel ibex]

i got 1440p 144hz will i notice a 1080p 240hz

[sacred elm]

no

[quasi hinge]

I guess depends what games you play

[steel ibex]

valorant

some marvel rivals

[quasi hinge]

Dunno, my monitor is only 120

But its an oled

[quasi hinge]

I also dont play this game but I can imagine it would

[stray apex]

would the keycaps be sold on the same site?

[sacred elm]

yes

[steel ibex]

so it evens out

idk i have a 4k monitor

or like i own one anyways

[quasi hinge]

Yeah for me at least, mine is an lg c2 lol

Tv monitor

[steel ibex]

yea

im looking at like a koorui 27" 240hz rn

too broke to buy the 1440p 240hz

should a 4060ti+13600kf get above 240fps in val in 1440p?

[stray apex]

thanks but cant find them. looking on kbd fans

[quasi hinge]

I dunno man, this is really for keyboard modding mostly 😅

[sacred elm]

ask in kbd discord

[steel ibex]

yea fair

i never get answers in pcmr lmao

[stray apex]

thanyou

[quasi hinge]

Can ask in tech

[fluid ravine]

I get like 350 with a 4060ti+12700 in 1080p ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I avg 300-350

[steel ibex]

yea but my 4060ti has 16gb of vram

and youre in 1080p

[fluid ravine]

Mine does too

[steel ibex]

oooooh awesome

i bought a zotac spiderman one lmao

[fluid ravine]

Ahhh

I have the Ventus 2x iirc

[steel ibex]

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0CBVYQ3NP?ie=UTF8&psc=1

this i s waht i bought lmao

[fluid ravine]

I mean in 1440p it could get at least 250 I suppose

[steel ibex]

yea

holdup lemme jsut check

[fluid ravine]

Possibly 260-310 I'm guessing

Just a random guess

[steel ibex]

is huntsman a HE keyboard?

wai

wait

im hallucinateing

[stray apex]

i cant get acces to the c hannels

[fluid ravine]

Optical

[steel ibex]

yea

bro i was tweaking

[fluid ravine]

Lmao

[steel ibex]

just standing still in teh range looking straight ahead at the bots im getting barely 500

with bots actually spawned in its like 350

im on all low settings btw

[lapis raven]

MSAA will kill your frames

turn it off and see your fps increase

because it takes multiple samples (in your case 2 samples) of the edges and smashes them all together to make jaggies begone

[steel ibex]

im getting like 5 more frames on fxaa

[lapis raven]

whats your specs ?

[steel ibex]

4060ti 16gb, 13600kf, 32gb 3600mhz ddr4

yes ik the ram sucks

i originally bought 64gb

but 2 sticks were broken

[lapis raven]

i mean 32gb is still fine

[steel ibex]

so im rmaing

[lapis raven]

i have 32gb

[steel ibex]

yea but like im still on ddr4

with like a 2k system

[lapis raven]

eh its not the end of the world, you dont have to always but the latest and greatest

[steel ibex]

yea but like still

idk im getting enough frames for now

[lapis raven]

and are you on 1080p 1440p or 4k

[steel ibex]

1440p

[lapis raven]

ah okay

[steel ibex]

27"

[lapis raven]

yeah it would just be a gpu issue, at higher resolutions the gpu works more and the cpu works less so, itll just be the 4060ti sadly