🔧│keyboard_modding

[tawdry tree]

From the top the legends look good but I wonder how it looks from the front, in normal use.

[vapid oracle]

Exactly just built a 60he+ from the barebones up spent well over 200$+ so I’m chillin tbh

[reef oar]

yeah exactly, i think for their mice is was okay since mice have always been a lot cheaper relative to keyboards, so people were justifiying paying like 150 for a finalmouse

but when it comes to keyboards, i doubt many people are going to buy it and daily use it unless they 1. already did not have a hall effect keyboard, 2. are buying it to do a review on youtube & 3. are rich

merging the keycaps and switch into one piece is like

not something anyone wants i think

i won't speak for everyone but personally i would actually prefer that to NOT happen

case looks decent ig

i just think the gimmicks that they're including to justify their price aren't really there for a valuable reason

[polar girder]

The keycaps looks little wobbly in the video lol

[polar girder]

It just helped make the screen more doable

[little glen]

Looks like a gimmick keyboard that people might like in the moment but in 3 years everyone will clown on it

[cyan lark]

I would have been more interested were it a modern optimus maximus https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/maximus/

[round sparrow]

yeah it probaly is to distracting to even use properly

[cyan lark]

(time is a flat circle, that beast was released almost 20 years ago)

[polar girder]

Yeah I mean I have zero interest in it lol

[polar girder]

lol looks cool today

[round sparrow]

what we do need is more cases for the 80he

sadly my black zinc one scratches the paint off easly

with my fingernail

[little glen]

Do you have pictures

That might be a warranty case

[tropic urchin]

Anything metal also chips white zinc paint too, is tuff

[little glen]

Also you should check out the gt-80

[cyan lark]

Salvation80 when

[little glen]

How would that even work

[cyan lark]

More spring leaves?

I dunno, I'm just a handsome dreamer.

[little glen]

80he is gasket mounted not tray

[cyan lark]

I'm aware

[little glen]

Idek if its possible to tray mount a 80he

[cyan lark]

I dunno, it's just nice to want things right? Something that feels like salv is what I meant.

[tawdry tree]

Could use some plate holes for tray.

[little glen]

I havent used salv yet (hopefully soon ) so i cant say if my current 80he feels like it

Tho the corners of my 80he are very flexy

Middle not so much

[tawdry tree]

stock 80 much stiffer

[little glen]

Maybe a stiffer plate would keep it all in line

[tawdry tree]

maybe in the gt80 it’s a little less so

[little glen]

Yeah its a lot less stiff in gt80

Especially with 3 layers of tape + poly fill

[cyan lark]

It's just a joy to type on. Especially for work I'd love something in the 80 form factor but the typing experince of salv.

[tawdry tree]

https://youtu.be/nShh_j4s2YE

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[little glen]

Yeah that looks like you should get a warranty replacement

[stone flax]

W wooting

[round sparrow]

im waiting for something more unique like a holy 80 if that ever gets made

[little glen]

[round sparrow]

its not to large

[little glen]

I doubt itll happen but i pray for you

[round sparrow]

i thought about covering it

[little glen]

I would just get the case replaced under warranty

That is a clear defect

[round sparrow]

i think that happens with all cases

[little glen]

Nope

Look, it costs you exactly 0 dollars to write a ticket to support and have them take a look

[quasi hinge]

You could have it cerakoted

[quasi hinge]

Not all

[marsh juniper]

Yea that is a Coating defect so best to send a ticket as mentioned
https://wooting.io/support?issue=50

(and best to include the picture)

[cyan lark]

Or bust out the rotary sander and turn it into a raw case 😉

[marsh juniper]

Side note: Zinc with no coating can start to turn slightly darker with contact to the air (which is why raw zinc has a coating as well)

[cyan lark]

I was being silly, but that's good to know.

[fluid ravine]

Silly Billy

[kind helm]

【Wooting & Owlab 60HE | 磁轴客制化 | 万磁王轴-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/5kE7VmI

shows some clips of owlan60 build process

looks like friction/some kind of oring gasket thingy

[vapid oracle]

Jade pros >

[fluid ravine]

It's def like friction mount

I don't think it should be considered as a gasket

[fluid ravine]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

I mean we all saw it I'm pretty sure

I think the yt vids gives a better look on it

[kind helm]

wasnt payin attention

it seems like friction fit onto the top portion and some kind of structure between top and bottom portion of the case to keep it bouncy

[cyan lark]

Putting KoMs in there. These folks have class.

[marsh saffron]

But the revolutionary new unibody switch is supposed to have no wobble they said

Surely final mouse wouldn't lie

[kind helm]

is it just me or it sounds kinda bad

and after watching that i think it makes sense because the way it fits into the case, there is no space below the pcb pretty much

[marsh saffron]

Thoughts on centerpiece sound?

[kind helm]

there is a vid? i thought its all renders

[marsh saffron]

Nah they had a type test in their reveal

[kind helm]

i will check it out. ty sir

[marsh saffron]

To me it sounded overlubed and kinda dead

Seems they just made it quiet instead of good sounding

[kind helm]

happy chinese new year btw everyone ❤️ just saw this from keebtaro

so sexy

[marsh saffron]

That's a.. funky layout

[marsh saffron]

https://youtu.be/vxx4gNxjsj0?t=29m8s

"Thockier fuller sound"

Shit just sounds muted as hell

[kind helm]

bro i read your text and the sound test started i recoiled and was like wtf

LMAO

it looks amazing though

[marsh saffron]

Its gimmicky as hell but it's cool

If final mouse didn't make it I'd consider one in the future

The screen is really the only part of it that's any bit intriguing to me

[kind helm]

[chilly mural]

if it can do rhythm game sure~

[marsh saffron]

Watch thr first batch have tons of doa units

[kind helm]

i wouldn't be surprised honestly, display is fragile

[regal nest]

Shipping of Summer 2025 (June/July)

[kind helm]

another issue is maybe you cant use your own switch/cap/plate

[regal nest]

as i said, actual shipping will be 2026

[kind helm]

or at least hard to make a custom thingy for it

since the whole thing is transparent

can see the spring

[marsh saffron]

Oh yeah it's entirely proprietary

Don't worry tho they advertised you can spring swap as if it's something revolutionary

Also I had finalmeme dick sucker's telling me wooting isn't special for being customizable

[kind helm]

another issue is the heat, if this thing has high pooling, with that display in there, its gonna get warm

[marsh saffron]

Yet they are praising a keyboard that is entirely proprietary

[marsh saffron]

Didn't even think about that

[kind helm]

WHAT?!

[marsh saffron]

Especially because thr keycaps look slick

[marsh saffron]

Watch this is just gonna be a huge exit scam and they rat everyone's pc

That part honestly kind of concerns me

[sweet oak]

Meanwhile

[marsh saffron]

Finalmouse isn't exactly the most trustworthy company

[sweet oak]

Wlmouse releasing beast x refresh with filled sides

[marsh saffron]

My wallet is crying

Solid side beastx mini

[sweet oak]

Same honestly

[marsh saffron]

If i didn't live in the middle of nowhere I'd sell my beastx mini for one

[kind helm]

i cant fck with this kinda of case on mouse

seems hard to clean even if its comfortable

[sweet oak]

Understandable

[marsh saffron]

Air duster works wonders

[regal nest]

whats there to clean

its a fingertip style mouse, only gunk accumulates on the clickers / sides and as long as they are solid you just wipe it off

and from time to time you blow compressed air through the insides

[kind helm]

dust and my fat cat's hair

[marsh saffron]

General dust

But an air duster solves that

[kind helm]

btw grip tape, like the ones for your thumb and fingers, yee or nah

[marsh saffron]

I like it

[kind helm]

that collects gunk like crazy

[marsh saffron]

Ended up taking it off for my beastx mini

[marsh saffron]

Laughs in white grips

[kind helm]

and hard to clean as least for my 3 brain cells i can't figure it out

[sweet oak]

my white grips are absolutely getting cooked lol

[kind helm]

i didn't even realize i too produce gamer gunk until i started using grip

[sweet oak]

tell me about it

[kind helm]

without grip its just about wiping it with like a wet tissue sometimes

[sweet oak]

i can see the entire outline of how i grip

[polar girder]

Bro is flexing his print

[vapid oracle]

Seems like a “ you “ problem

[boreal raptor]

also jades pro a bit faster, about 1ms faster than the normal jades

[hot raven]

what is it keebtaro ? can you send the link ? i love the layout

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/c/keebtaro japanese youtuber who does (imo) good reviews.

[stone flax]

type r?

[hot raven]

thx and i just find the Twitter too

[kind helm]

nah think its ttlab ttred

(if they are the same thing then fck me probably not the same actually since this one by hmx the other one by gateron and my goat sauceinmyvains)

[visual ore]

Anyone here got the Domikey Hush keycap set?

Eyeing it at the current moment. Well assuming I get my refund for the missing Cyro Slime set....

[cyan lark]

It would be filled to the brim with animal hair in my setup within a few weeks 🤢

[glass girder]

anyone have any suggestions for gray keycaps that would go well with the optimum case? (other than the ones wooting sells)

[mental salmon]

I am using Drop Hyperfuse, but waiting for a different non gray set to test.

[soft thicket]

GMK Dualshot 2

[limpid pasture]

where can I buy anime keys, which are of good quality?

[devout totem]

I’ve used other XVX/Wormier keycaps and their quality is pretty good
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CXXVVRP3

[covert hazel]

Didnt have keys that matched the top right 3 keys but… i think it came out alright. What do yall think?

[fleet tulip]

would u recommend these for some1 with 21cmx11cm hands?

thinking of getting the ULX SMALL size tho

[marsh saffron]

I have 20x11 hands and ftip the beastx mini

[inland jetty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezk99o67Mh4 they love proving us right. LMAO. AGAIN! BRUH

[marsh saffron]

If you want claw get a max or regular beastx

[fleet tulip]

so maya over ulx?

or wlmouse?

[marsh saffron]

Wlmouse clears imo

[fleet tulip]

im fingertip mostly

people say wlmouse is worse than FM but idk

[inland jetty]

who says that?

[fleet tulip]

dunno some randoms on reddit threads

[inland jetty]

theyre coping. Finalmouse has worse qc

[marsh saffron]

Finalmouse fan boys maybe

[fleet tulip]

hmm ill have a look

[marsh saffron]

Beastx is just what the finalmouse starlight shouldve been

[fleet tulip]

wlmouse is also way way cheaper here where i live

[marsh saffron]

Good qc, solid build quality, top tier latency

[inland jetty]

i have a beast x and a sword x, no issue. They also have web app for all the customization

[marsh saffron]

For a cheaper price than the ultra

[fleet tulip]

is it the same shape?

i need something small and similar shape to the FM ULX or wlmouse

[inland jetty]

they clone the shape, theyre nothing revolutionary but they are consistent from my experience and the web app is good for me

[fleet tulip]

so beast x aye

[marsh saffron]

Imo yes

[polar girder]

aye

[fleet tulip]

alr ty guys!!!

[inland jetty]

my man wantss to finger tip it

is ur hand big enough?

[fleet tulip]

i can fingertip a gpx2

and g502

[inland jetty]

oh shit, ur good bro LMFAO

[fleet tulip]

but its not consistent

[marsh saffron]

Only way to he semi comfortable on that shit mouse

[fleet tulip]

the gpx2 is so weird to fingertip

[inland jetty]

theyre reeleasing the beast x pro on feb 3?

[fleet tulip]

its never consistent, i need something as cons as possible

[marsh saffron]

Its weird for like every grip

[marsh saffron]

I thought it was march 1st

[fleet tulip]

it rlly is...

[inland jetty]

u can get that, its an upgraded beast x 8k sensor wise

[polar girder]

Pro?

[fleet tulip]

ill wait for that

[polar girder]

That’s hype

[inland jetty]

did i just lie?

[marsh saffron]

Solid sides + 3950hs iirc

[inland jetty]

let me recheck

[marsh saffron]

Idk what else is changed

[marsh saffron]

All I know is my wallet is scared for when it releases

[polar girder]

Early March

[inland jetty]

yeah i lied, ur right, feb 3 is the strider release. xm2 clone.

[fleet tulip]

thats calm

[sacred elm]

viper v3 pro

[fleet tulip]

never used the v3 but i wanted to try it sooo badly

[marsh saffron]

I tried one of the display models in best buy, shape isn't for me

[fleet tulip]

regardless i found my style, i need something like the ULX or wlmouse or beastx

[polar girder]

Viper is fairly mid IMO for fingertip grip

It’s fine

But idk

[fleet tulip]

small light and consistent

[marsh saffron]

Beastx pog

[marsh saffron]

Your hands are 1cm longer than mine, and I ftip beastx mini

[polar girder]

Can choose opticals or mechanical switches

That’s neat

[fleet tulip]

thats good

[marsh saffron]

You may want a regular sized one

Idk how much that 1cm will make a difference

[fleet tulip]

what about lamzu atlantis or maya?

[marsh saffron]

The mini is very small

[tropic urchin]

Where the palm grip homies at 👀

[inland jetty]

u wont regret getting a wlmouse if u want to save some bucks. It's great. I honestly dont know why finalmeme fboys are talking shit about it since finalmouse has been riddled with false promises and qc issues. let's talk about the aceu paint issue lmfao

[marsh saffron]

Atlantis is a lovely claw mouse, same as Maya x

[polar girder]

Solid side is Gucci

[fleet tulip]

ah okay

[polar girder]

I just go full dedicated F-tip

[fleet tulip]

well i heard that FM was super bad in early bnatches but might be better now

BUUUUT a fm would cost me 3x more than a wlmouse xd

[marsh saffron]

I ftip but stabilize with the back of my thumb

[fleet tulip]

same as me

[marsh saffron]

Its better now, but the bar is set really low

[fleet tulip]

hmmmm

[marsh saffron]

Better is still far from good

[fleet tulip]

i think the beastx might be peaking my interest the most then, if it has solid sides

[inland jetty]

ayy lesgo, hahaha. anything none fps, we palm gripping with an ergo mice xD

[marsh saffron]

Gotta wait until March for solid sides but it's worth it

[sacred elm]

hell no

[fleet tulip]

ill have my radar set for march then

[tropic urchin]

Oven mitt hand gang

[marsh saffron]

Gonna pick one up after i buy oled for sure

Oled has my priority rn

[sacred elm]

but then again I dont have 30x18 hands like varedis

[tropic urchin]

Banana for scale

[inland jetty]

If u really want one now, go buy one off reddit for a good price then test it out bare then grip tape sides

[sacred elm]

😳

[marsh saffron]

What size hands?

[sacred elm]

viper v3 looks like beastx mini in his hand

[marsh saffron]

Eh id just wait

[sacred elm]

[tropic urchin]

I really should measure, but they’re on the larger side. Not Kawhi Leonard sized but decently up there

[inland jetty]

Sword x and beast x 8k macho edition

[sacred elm]

[tropic urchin]

Only mouse I can palm grip comfortably is the DAV3 shape

[fleet tulip]

ill have a look around and try to get one

[fleet tulip]

sword x?

[polar girder]

I have to sell this thing actually

Vv2 pro

[marsh saffron]

Only mouse I've found comfortable for palm so far is some random ass wide Chinese mouse

Thing was like 250g😭

[tropic urchin]

Oh hell nah

[polar girder]

Good lord lol

[sacred elm]

workout

[inland jetty]

They have a couple of mice. Beast x, beast x mini, sword x. The strider (xm2 clone) releasing this Feb 3 and beast x pro releasing March

[marsh saffron]

It had an alu bottom plate 😭

[tropic urchin]

Using Stormbreaker max cf atm at ≈ 45g DAV3 shape which is heaven

[marsh saffron]

Also beastx max, which is the bigger brother of a beastx 8k

[tropic urchin]

Wish I had smaller hands but it is what it is

[sacred elm]

are they releasing 3950 beastx?

[marsh saffron]

Beastx mini pog

[marsh saffron]

The pro versions have it iirc

[inland jetty]

Yep, the beast x pro

[sacred elm]

[fleet tulip]

never checked the xm2 out

[inland jetty]

It's just an upgraded beast x 8k

[marsh saffron]

I think my beastx mini is 34g?

Forgot what it was when I measured it

[fleet tulip]

i think it would be between ULX comp or beast x pro for me

[sacred elm]

so there will be beastx 8k pro? if it has solid sides, im sold

[marsh saffron]

I vote beastx, avoid qc lottery

[tropic urchin]

I have a hard time wrapping my head around 45g that shits wild

[marsh saffron]

Indeed there will

[fleet tulip]

smart

very smart choice

actual IQ

i mean yeah it makes sense right

[marsh saffron]

Meanwhile you got people like bigsly that have sub 20g 3d printed mod kits

Or the titan-1

[tropic urchin]

45g DAV3 pro clone is like an actual paper weight

[marsh saffron]

22g 3d printed titanium pen grip mouse

[tropic urchin]

Idk how yall do this sub 30g mice shit

[fleet tulip]

bro

i bet u under 30g and u wont control it at all...

[marsh saffron]

I have a buddy who owns one of these

[fleet tulip]

people are crazy

[marsh saffron]

https://precisiongaminggear.com/products/titan-1-fingertip-mouse

[inland jetty]

The sword x is an ec2 clone if u want a lightweight ergo 😂😂

[fleet tulip]

it HAS to have some weight

[marsh saffron]

If you lack good mouse control yeah

[marsh saffron]

My buddy owns one of these

[fleet tulip]

das crazy

[marsh saffron]

Says it's insanely comfortable

You hold it sorta like a pen style grip

3d printed titanium 🥴

[inland jetty]

It's def still in its early stages. Olaf or whoever the dude is will develop it further I hope

[marsh saffron]

He's got a new project forget what it's called

Its even lighter, and the click mechanism seems even more complicated

[inland jetty]

That's crazy. I'm impressed he doesn't miss the side buttons honestly. It would be a miracle to somehow fit them in

[inland jetty]

Holy 😨

[marsh saffron]

This one is 13g

[inland jetty]

Tbh tho, he does use standard screws which is always great to see

[marsh saffron]

LOL

[harsh dove]

yall get outta here with your alien finger mice

[marsh saffron]

You don't fuck with the 13g pen grip mouse

[inland jetty]

It fucks with you 😨

[harsh dove]

lmao no hate, just yappin

things are weird tho

[inland jetty]

Hahaha, we are as well. How are you today good sir

[harsh dove]

Doing good , just observing my local 50 series launch

#🔌│tech message

I posted a video

not my video btw

[inland jetty]

Which card are you going for mr cam?

[marsh saffron]

5090 prob

Or he waits until 6000

[harsh dove]

I'll get the 5090 if I can sell off my 4090

[fleet tulip]

i wont leave my 4070ti super

[marsh saffron]

I'm gonna go 7900xt/xtx

[inland jetty]

Hot damn I just read the thread

[marsh saffron]

From my 6900xt

[inland jetty]

That sucks

[fleet tulip]

ok now enough of mice and cards, how do u find a gf guys

[marsh saffron]

Need 1440@240 capability when I go oled

[inland jetty]

Ur going for vram aren't you?

[fleet tulip]

.realquestion

[marsh saffron]

Beats me

[fleet tulip]

love it

[marsh saffron]

Need better 1440 performance

I'm doubtful my 6900xt can run 1440@240 on apex

[inland jetty]

Raw performance 👌🏾

[inland jetty]

Have you tried? Also depends what settings ur comfortable with

[harsh dove]

yeah they crazy out here

and its gonna snow tonight

[marsh saffron]

No just assuming

[inland jetty]

Dear God 😅

[marsh saffron]

Apex runs like ass

[inland jetty]

Damn, I'd test it for you but I don't have apex downloaded. I have a 6960xt+5800x3d combo

[marsh saffron]

I'm running 6900xt 5800x3d

[inland jetty]

Ayyyyy 👌🏾

[fleet tulip]

idk i still cant run rebirth island at 240fps with a 4070 ti s and 12700k

need an i9 or ryen 7/9

[marsh saffron]

On 1440?

Also apex runs worse than cod...

[inland jetty]

What settings?

[fleet tulip]

1080p FUNNILY ENOUGH

all low

its crazy

[marsh saffron]

Yeah that makes sense

[inland jetty]

Best investment id made since the Nvidia 1000 series

[fleet tulip]

cpu bound...

my gpu is at 60% so id assume with a good cpu u can run it 300fps easily at 1440

[marsh saffron]

5800x3d should be fine for 1440@240, I'm just not sure my gpu has enough guts to do it

[inland jetty]

Yeah, that's rough man. Get a 7800x3d if it's dirt cheap now. Idk about pricing nowadays tho

[fleet tulip]

ill see

maybe

[inland jetty]

People are glazing the 9800x3d, rightfully so, but those used 7800x3d in good condition are always 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾 at a good price of course

[marsh saffron]

I'll probably get 9800x3d eventually, my 5800x3d should be fine for at least another year or two

[inland jetty]

arent you happy you got that combo xD it was a really good investment long term

[marsh saffron]

Yeah it's done be well

Probably should reinstall windows because I have bloat beyond belief

[inland jetty]

haha, you got it man, take your time

[tropic urchin]

Don’t forget the two rules: 1). Be attractive, 2). Don’t be unattractive

[fleet tulip]

ah, the pride and true facets of the universe and its fabric

[inland jetty]

just focus on u bro, she will come around

😄

[fleet tulip]

i was kidding btw xd

but hey varedis aint far off

[inland jetty]

thank god

[fleet tulip]

ill just let u guys know, even in eu, being tall and good looking isnt enough anymore idk about america

[inland jetty]

brother

[fleet tulip]

inflation is crazy and its not just the 5000 series cards were talking about

[inland jetty]

were gonna get banned

LMFAO

[fleet tulip]

true

mb

[tropic urchin]

I’m 6’4 so I’m like average Dutch height

[inland jetty]

its a great conversation to have tho

[fleet tulip]

same im 6 5 and average in my country

[inland jetty]

im like 4'1? so im tall for an asian

[tropic urchin]

LMFAO

I’d ask for a refund tbh

4’1 is wild

[inland jetty]

i really have to pick my words carefully lmao

[inland jetty]

mark my words, with my height, i will be the best break dancer in the world. Even better than that kangaroo chick

🤣

[tropic urchin]

That’s fair, with some of those performances there should be a lot of openings

[inland jetty]

a lot is an understatement. she brings me lots of joy and happiness 🤣

it's so cursed for australia. When people think of kangaroos, they will think of her, not the actual animal LMAO

[kind helm]

how much you thinkin

[harsh dove]

Based on what im seeing on ebay Im thinking I can get 2100-2200 for it maybe

I was thinking less but not after what I'm seeing

like closer to 1500-1800

[tropic urchin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/s/Ps54M0cAuS this is all I can think of when I think of Australia after today

[kind helm]

who needs a keyboard when you have this

(translation on the top right: left hand is broken)

[sweet oak]

Oooh i just realized what it is

Peak gaming

[kind helm]

this lady is pro btw LMAO

i think she on the vct game changer thingy or whatever that is called

[sweet oak]

Peak trolling

The mark of a real pro

[jaunty urchin]

Any recommendations for easy mods (or good keycaps / accessories) i can get from aliexpress bellow 10$. For now I got my eyes on 4 pieces of foam for a spacebar mod for 1$.

Or maybe even a cheapo wrist rest for that cheap if theres one. Also for that much cause I have some coupons to spends thats why.

[stone flax]

tune ur stabs if they dont sound good

[jaunty urchin]

Will do, if anyone has any other recommendations ill be pleased to hear.

[little glen]

Try poly fill and tape mod

Both of those you can do with stuff you dont even need to order on ali

[jaunty urchin]

I already tried the tapemod but removed it. Did it like they did it on the video. Thought i would like it more irl but i didnt. The reason i want to order is because i have coupons that i need to spend the coupons cause they will expire in 2 days so yeah

[little glen]

If you are just looking for stuff to spend money on

Buy the kbdfans brush

[jaunty urchin]

Hmm ill look into that.

[little glen]

Its a nice brush you can use to clean stuff off your board

[jaunty urchin]

Ye I found it thanks. 1 more question would you recommend putting o rings to "silence" it a bit?

[untold wigeon]

Can anyone recommend a case foam? I have a tofu redux currently with half of the stock foam, I see people recommend goka but that isn’t available currently

[little glen]

No

[jaunty urchin]

Okay and thank you

[icy dew]

Does anyone know where to find real GMK keycaps?

I've been researching for high quality PBT, and a lot of people keep comparing different ones to GMK as if its the gold standard. So now I'm curious where I could find some

[chilly mural]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/ vendor here have em, just choose your region

[stone flax]

youd need gmk mtnu sets

their cherry probile is abs

[calm pulsar]

or you could just try their abs sets

[thorn zealot]

hes looking for a deep sound

or they

[calm pulsar]

I would probably try a thick dyesub set then, but gmk mtnu are curious too

mtnu are double shot though, I feel like this removes a bit of the "depth" since the plastic is layered instead of being one whole piece

but that's just my theory, never had mtnu or dyesub

[kind helm]

is mtnu supposed to be deeper sounding due to its structure?

[icy dew]

honestly i'm considering buying these

Im just worried that they might be some low quality rip-off or something

Are Ghost Judges decent in quality?

[gloomy fractal]

Would these work on a Wooting 80HE? https://drop.com/buy/drop-dcl-shadow-international-keycap-set/

[icy dew]

they seem to be south facing

[gloomy fractal]

What so yes or no? Would there be RGB or would it be severly limited to being black almost and the legend not coming through?

[icy dew]

well the wooting has north facing LED's, so i dont think you would be getting a good RGB experience with those keycaps

im basing it off of this image

it looks like they're made to be put on south facing LEDs

[gloomy fractal]

Ahhh

That makes sense unlucky...

[dark cypress]

someone in here posted their keycaps with front legends

it didnt look bad

in the wootstations i believe

[icy dew]

i mean yeah it could still work. It just wouldnt be ideal

[gloomy fractal]

Is there like a way they can be channeled without too much distortion?

[icy dew]

wym channeled

[gloomy fractal]

Like different coating perhaps?

Double Shot PBT obviously

[night atlas]

for stem spacers, how much height do i need to compensate for if i'm using raws

[icy dew]

im not sure what you mean

do you mean like a material that is more translucent?

[dark cypress]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1331045573519740970

that one

the front legends still look decently bright

[icy dew]

@gloomy fractal

here's an example

[gloomy fractal]

No no not translucent. Just I could care less for perfect RGB glow but hmmm if it was like at least decently visible the legend...

[icy dew]

North facing LEDs on the boards, with south facing keycaps

legend does look visible on this one

[dark cypress]

the legends are visible

[gloomy fractal]

So should I give these 50 bucks a shot? Drop is like reputable right?

[kind helm]

i think just lay one on each stem should be fine

[stone flax]

mid

literally just gmk clones

theyre not bad

[gloomy fractal]

This should still be compatible right?

Oh is ABS not that great?

[stone flax]

yeah

[stone flax]

its a material

[gloomy fractal]

What is the difference between PBT and ABS?

[stone flax]

types of plastic

[night atlas]

gotcha

[stone flax]

abs easier to work with, prone to shine, has more color options

pbt is a bit denser, less color options as far as plastics can easily go, and can go through shrinkage more often

[night atlas]

isn't there an Oring mod specifically for keycaps that kinda does the same thing or does it not work that way

I wonder if there's a DIY way

[stone flax]

https://wiki.keyboard.gay/KEYCAPS.html

best rule of thumb is good double shot abs and dyesub pbt for 80% of options

“Doubleshot pbt” is 99% of the time a blend between pbt and abs or having a different plastic be the inner mold such as pc/abs

abs can be faster prone to shine relative to pbt, but both will do so given time

[gloomy fractal]

Thanks.

[icy dew]

how are they GMK clones. I haven't found a single GMK pbt double shot keycap that has a cool theme

GMK is primarily ABS

[stone flax]

ghost judges solely clones gmk colorways lol

[kind helm]

honestly now i think about it, if you can cut a piece of tape that size it probably work too

[stone flax]

Their whole shtick is cloning sets

[icy dew]

i dont really care if they clone colors

i just want them to look good

and not feel like cheap plastic

[kind helm]

aren''t they all essentially cheap plastic

[stone flax]

?

not saying theyre bad not saying theyre good

[icy dew]

you seemed to have a build with them before. how was the quality of them

[stone flax]

i just said theyre mid gmk clones

what more do u want xd

on the textured sides

legends and kerning is a bit wonky

[vapid oracle]

Abs or pbt for gaming?

[stone flax]

but better than some more egregious china sets

like sumsgn

[icy dew]

hmm

[thorn zealot]

dont matter

[stone flax]

id go with aifei v3 instead tbh

legends are a big turnoff for me when it comes to ghostjudges

[night atlas]

GMK knock offs on aliexpress allday baby

[stone flax]

And 40 dollars on clones is funny lol

[night atlas]

woohooo

(dont listen to me)

i aint payin $120 and waiting for 3mo for a keycap set that i might not like

[kind helm]

wait for another blackfriday or something and see if you can find some you like at below 100

i am very happy with the set i got for 50

[icy dew]

looks like abs

[stone flax]

mfw $50 gmk sets

[stone flax]

theyre not

[icy dew]

i want PBT for the deeper sound

[stone flax]

its a blend

[night atlas]

eh dont like em personally

[stone flax]

then get dyesub pbt?

ghost judges are also a blend

xmi/21kb, jcs/leekbros, crp, shenpo, nicepbt

[night atlas]

bro just stepped on his keyboard

[icy dew]

i feel like double shot would be more dense

or higher quality

[stone flax]

nope

again

its a blend

and thinner ones at that

what is denser/deeper to you, a 1.45mm 60-40 abs/pbt blend thats “double-shot” or a 1.7mm full blank/dyesub pbt cap

🤷

[icy dew]

you're saying double shot keycaps have more abs in them

[stone flax]

im giving an example

[stone flax]

^

if u want to go “pbt for deeper sound”

thick dyesubs

[icy dew]

hmm

do you know where to get thick/high quality dyesubs?

[stone flax]

.-.

crp would be the easiest to get thats highest qual relatively

But its not that thick

[calm pulsar]

thock pbt thock pbt any good thock keycaps? has to be pbt

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

[stone flax]

thocky

i heard pbt is thocky

i should buy the 1.2mm sidelit keycaps doubleshot“pbt”

[calm pulsar]

razer double shot high quality ultra pbt girthy thocky shinethrough

[stone flax]

If thick keycap thock

then no keycap is clack?

🤔

[calm pulsar]

no caps is creamy👅

[stone flax]

👅

[split dagger]

Anyone know a good white aluminum 75% barebones kit with no screen or knob besides the neo

[calm pulsar]

I want the damn mtnu wob but they arent making it anymore

so good

[thorn zealot]

does sonnet count

[split dagger]

Havent checked it

Oh yea thats nice

[flat cobalt]

Got the bum raw hes

[sacred elm]

😳

letsgo

[vapid oracle]

😈😈

[sweet oak]

Geon raw on 10% sale for Aliexpress kbdfans. Is the a sign?

[sacred elm]

jade pros are 20% off

now that is a big sign

[calm pulsar]

hmm do I order a set of jade pros that haven't been tainted by my frankenswitching

hmm nah fuck gateron I still have ttc pom to try out

[flat cobalt]

I’m about to copy your frankenswitch

[calm pulsar]

do jade pro bottom instead of black jade/normal jade

[flat cobalt]

Is it better?

[sacred elm]

yea im never doing that frankenswitch, im too sensitive to friction and theres gonna be a bit friction with those

[calm pulsar]

I don't know exactly, but when I tested briefly it seemed the same

but at least you can avoid buying a whole another switch lol

[flat cobalt]

I already own like 3 sets of regular jades

[calm pulsar]

lmao ggs then

[flat cobalt]

And I feel like the bottom for the regular jades is more resistant idk

Had like 5 Jade pros snap here

[flat cobalt]

I’m honestly doing it for the color

[calm pulsar]

mine are all smooth now, they break in in time just like all the cherry mx ones

[calm pulsar]

but you will use the raw stem right? cause gateron stem in there is going to be too much friction

[flat cobalt]

Yeh

It’s fine I’ll use raw stem

I’ll do 1 and see how it feels

[calm pulsar]

for the best experience clean the parts from lube and oil and relube, cause combination of oil and lube also sucks for friction

[calm pulsar]

brother is a switch addict

[flat cobalt]

I’m about to be up all night

[calm pulsar]

I did it in parts cause it was sooo much work xdd

[flat cobalt]

I really liked the regular jades colors lol

[flat cobalt]

Not even gonna test out the raw he just gonna gut them for their stem

[kind helm]

i tried jade bottom on jade pro, think a bit louder.

i was fcking around doing random s44t for the spacebar

[calm pulsar]

maybe jade pro is just tighter and quieter cause of that

if I understood you correctly lol

[kind helm]

maybe, yea i stayed with just using normal jade pro thinking that jade pro bottom probably tighter

i have never checked how wobbly is regular jade. only did jade pro and raw

[flat cobalt]

Looks ugly

[kind helm]

we have the same opener

[flat cobalt]

lol

Tiny cat

[kind helm]

amazon a few dolla

[kind helm]

it matches so well with your key caps though, black and white

[flat cobalt]

But gonna be changing to cosmos :c soon

[sacred elm]

just use jade pros

[flat cobalt]

I think I am lol

mmmmm the raw he seem interesting though maybe I’ll try a few

The daughter board is the little square right?

This?

[sacred elm]

cable?

its fine

[sacred elm]

damn that kbd jst cable is long lol

[kind helm]

<The guy she tells you not to worry about>

[flat cobalt]

@little glen how’d you out the silicone thingy over the led bar?

ignore the shiny spacebar

I wonder what these are for

[kind helm]

looks like feet

[flat cobalt]

Oh you’re right

[gaunt plume]

Pink Jade Pro

[fluid ravine]

oh shoot they sell those?

interesting

[chilly mural]

cute

[night atlas]

theoretically, if i use a switch that has 4.0mm travel on the stab keys, i wouldn't need stab spacers, right?

[fluid ravine]

The only time you need spacers or LP stabs is when you're using reduce traveled switches/LP switches

Otherwise you can use 4mm travel switches with normal stabs perfectly fine

[night atlas]

yea, I ask because I'm using raws which from my understanding have a shorter travel distance

[fluid ravine]

Yup they do

[thorn zealot]

Even with raws u can still use 4mm stabs

And u don’t need stem spacers

[calm pulsar]

"need" is subjective
it is not noticeable in normal use, but I could tilt the keycap if I pressed with force, and it was gone once I started using long pole stabs OR stem spacers

[night atlas]

Gotcha, I just wanna avoid taking out my stabs cause it is such a pain w/my configuration

also speaking of which, I must be doing something wrong w/my switches....

[calm pulsar]

if they are fine rn no big need for taking them out

[night atlas]

The keycaps do tilt

so I just wanted to avoid it

It wasn't like that when I had the Jade Pros, recently switched to raws though

Also, on a tangent... I MUST be doing something wrong w/my switches or something

No matter what switch I get, they all start to become scratchy/ticky (this convo has happened a few times). I've gone through jades, jade pros and now it's starting to happen w/my Raws... They all sound/feel amazing until about two weeks in

Then magically, the switch tolerances get lower... even the highly praised raws (which i like the best thus far)

The switch will tick independently of the board, not exclusive to stab keys

My room/work area isn't particularly dusty

Could a warped PC plated be the cause? It DOES happen on my more pressed keys

I also don't think I'm a heavy typer

How could I tell if a keycap fits "poorly" on a keyboard

[loud gull]

I'd say if it the stem doesn't fit at all, or if its very loose on there and wiggly.

[night atlas]

Okay, yea they're like normal cherry profile keycaps, they fit snugly

I'm just baffled at this consistently happening

to those who hand lubed their raws: do you guys remove ALL factory lubing, before going in with your own lube?

er, any switch for that matter

[sacred elm]

Youre just too sensitive to all those things, I told you before you would just waste money on raws if you didnt like jade pros, all switches develop that feeling after some time

[calm pulsar]

HE switches have bigger moving parts, so it does happen that the lube gets spread around fast, so the feeling of exactly freshly lubed switches never stays forever

[night atlas]

aren't most keyboard hobbyists sensitive to how they want their switch to sound... at least to a certain degree? I'd argue that's a big chunk of this hobby no?

to your second point, I (maybe wrongly) assumed these issues wouldn't happen this quickly

Is expecting a decent sound for more than two weeks a big ask

[sacred elm]

basically what arc said

[night atlas]

Okay, so about the two week thing I just mentioned, does the feeling/sound go away for you guys around that time too?

[calm pulsar]

I enjoy my board even after multiple months of using these switches

[sacred elm]

Yes because lube gets spread

[calm pulsar]

@night atlas what is your build?

[night atlas]

do they develop ticking/looser tolerances?

[night atlas]

tofu 60 acrylic, poron casefoam that came with it, gummy o ring mounted, PC plate, poron platefoam, tape mod

might be a thing or two I missed

but thats all the major things

[sacred elm]

not sure what do you mean by ticking but they get a bit wobblier after some time of use but difference should be very small

maybe try other plates? for example fr4, alu or cf

maybe you just dont like pc plate

[river shore]

hey gang - would there be any tips for fixing warped keycaps? specifically - ive put the keycaps on leveled surfaces and theres no warping of the keycap itself, but i think the** stems are warped**. i figured its not as easy to solve this in comparison to just flattening out the whole keycap if it was the keycap itself, thought id ask for some advice

any advice would be appreciated!

[night atlas]

yea, mine ticks/starts sounding scratchy, and the tolerance loosening is pretty apparent.

I want to make it clear, I am aware that things degrade over time, Its more of it happening within such a short time that's the issue

[calm pulsar]

maybe a denser plate would help retaining some of the tightness, even if it's just in feel

[ionic breach]

warm water and tweezers?

[night atlas]

the switches have these issues independent of the plate, not saying that the plate isn't credible, do you think changing the plate would help alleviate these things I'm experiencing?

[sacred elm]

@night atlas maybe try ordering 10pc ttc magneto pom, they have least amount of wobble and you might like them

[night atlas]

Yea, I shall bite the bullet

fuck sound at this point lol

[ionic breach]

buy the new year one

[sacred elm]

they dont even sound bad, its just they are loud

[night atlas]

to sum it up, my issues are:

sound/feel degradation : time

that ratio is the big thing for me

like if this happened over the course of... maybe 2 months then I'd understand it

[calm pulsar]

I will also suggest trying to not use every possible sound layering thing there is, you have all the foams and tape mod, it could be making it dead sounding to the point where only the annoying scratchy sounds are left

this is all personal ofc but Im not sure if you even tried diff combinations or just did every known mod

[night atlas]

Oh yea I've experimented, but like I said, the switch will have this feeling and sound **independently **of the whole keyboard, like me taking out the switch. It'd sound very different from another of the same exact switch

(i also ended up liking this combo)

I just want my shit to last more than 2 weeks wihtout feeling like shiiit

I do have a couple different switches to experiment with thanks to someone here who graciously gifted me a buncha shit

the problem I seek to resolve is why the tolerances seem to loosen so fast

[calm pulsar]

well I don't know what exactly to advise here cause some of this is inevitable, but after some time I found my preference and I like the feel and sound even if the switches are becoming dry

[night atlas]

I appreciate you trying to answer regardless

Maybe I just won't ever open up my switches

i'll try that out lol

[sacred elm]

honestly you tried everything except ttc pom, thats the last thing i can recommend

[night atlas]

yea will give that a go

shame cause the raws felt and sounded so nice until they didn't

I know that maybe like 2-3 other ppl in the server had the same problem as i did

no conclusive answer

[surreal edge]

hey im new in keyboard hobby tapemode really made noticable diff?

[sacred elm]

they are very expensive tho, order 4 if you can or go for 10pc and see if you like them

[surreal edge]

i need clean sound

[night atlas]

also thanks for your help too @sacred elm

I'm curious about the geon lucifer

have you guys tried that?

[calm pulsar]

they are supposedly cheaper and less tight than raws

a budget switch

they sounded more wobbly in sno's test

[night atlas]

oh and also to back track real quick, when you guys hand lube your switches, do you guys remove all factory lubing

ohhh i see

[sacred elm]

if you didnt like jade pros/raws you wont like lucifers, because apparently they have worse wobble and sound isnt as good

[night atlas]

that's odd considering raws weren't really expensive at .48 USD

per

good to know they're wobblier

[quasi hinge]

How good are they compared to jade and raws

[calm pulsar]

ngl I think most switches benefit the most from just lubing the spring
but when I hand lube I just add on top of existing lube

unless the switch is lubed with oil from factory lol

[night atlas]

my guy 👊

[sacred elm]

I havent tried ttc switches but sno said that they barely move when you wiggle them

[night atlas]

yea i think raws have the oil from the factory, didn't seem like 205g0

You know which magnetic swithces I haven't had a problem on with heavy use? the shit the drunkdeer a75 uses

raesha switches or something

[calm pulsar]

I think they are closer to MX in structure, so maybe they are less susceptible to wobble and shit

but ttc kom/pom are apparently super good on that

have yet to try mine

[night atlas]

I see, sad that they aren't compatible w/wooting

[sacred elm]

btw @calm pulsar I want to try geon pingless springs I kinda liked old raptor springs, they were 42/52g and pingless have same weight

[fathom trail]

are there any big releases coming soon for he switches?

[night atlas]

oh fuck thanks for reminding me that's a thing

[sacred elm]

oh also maybe you can give them a try too @night atlas

yea

[calm pulsar]

you sure you want a shorter spring after jade pros? hehe

[night atlas]

yea, i'm wondering if part of my issue is me opening them up to begin with

[sacred elm]

honestly i swapped my jade pro springs on wasd and osu keys with L45 springs on wasd and raptor springs on osu keys

[night atlas]

i use the nutcracker style switch opener that gateron has

[calm pulsar]

lol nice

[sacred elm]

I like jade pro springs, just tried others

[calm pulsar]

if geon made 20mm pingless springs I'd buy them so fast

[night atlas]

all my raws have the jade pro springs

feels nice af

i wonder if max springs are compatible

[sacred elm]

I think you will like those springs, if they are really "pingless". I have to try them too

[sacred elm]

They are

[calm pulsar]

I currently use a 2nd or 3rd iteration of my frankenswitch, so I messed with these parts a lot and the switch is still great, so I don't think opening the switch is a big deal

[sacred elm]

jade max springs are 2mm shorter than jade pros

[calm pulsar]

just be careful with them and its all good

[night atlas]

aw wait, idk if i'm on the right page, but for the pingless springs, there's no option to have em already installed in the swtich?

[sacred elm]

no

[calm pulsar]

yeah they are sold separately

[night atlas]

fuck

lol

I wonder how they make em pingless, what's different than just lubing them?

[calm pulsar]

different metal, not as noisy

[quasi hinge]

Best place to buy them?

[sacred elm]

probably ali if there is discount

[night atlas]

i c i c

[sacred elm]

oh just checked it says 52g bottom out but cant find whats initial, is it 42g😳

[calm pulsar]

tbh I never looked at the weights that much, I still don't know the bottom out of jade pros 😄

[night atlas]

are the lucifers and the neo lavenders the last major new he switches

[calm pulsar]

neo lavenders are older than jade pros

[night atlas]

o wtf

i almost forgot I ordered deng god switches like 2 weeks ago, but have only heard shit things about em

good thing they were cheap as hell I guess lol

[sacred elm]

lucifers are copy of denggods

[night atlas]

oh... so not that good

coulda bought a 20 pcs mcnugget w/medium fries w/that money man

[sacred elm]

[flat cobalt]

Lowkey wanna try the Geon he over the Jade pros

Just too see

[calm pulsar]

you got black knights?

[flat cobalt]

Yeah

[calm pulsar]

do one like mine to check it out

[flat cobalt]

I don’t wanna clean all the lube :c

[calm pulsar]

well you can just make one or two without caring for that

[flat cobalt]

I tried making one and it felt mushy cause I didn’t clean all the different lubes

[night atlas]

has anyone tried these

[flat cobalt]

The black knights are so pretty with the gold specks

[calm pulsar]

there are stabs that look the same too

[gleaming crane]

Any new switches that are worth checking out?

[night atlas]

Does TTC have a site? I'm seeing them kinda everywhere

[flat cobalt]

[gleaming crane]

That looks pretty cool

[quasi hinge]

Would anyone recommend trying the ttc magneto pom switches coming from the raw 50g

If its a world apart difference then Im interested

[flat cobalt]

@glacial wind

[night atlas]

lol we boutta take this leap together my guy

i'm legit about to check out my cart lmao

I'm seeing that TTC Pom/Magneto are the ones to go

[quasi hinge]

Haha awesome

[quasi hinge]

What site?

[night atlas]

milktooth, hopefully they ship to you

https://milktooth.com/products/switches?switches_table[refinementList][switch_attributes.type.type][0]=Hall Effect

[quasi hinge]

I can make it happen

[night atlas]

chad

[quasi hinge]

Imma wait for some more feedback tho

[night atlas]

ill take the leap of faith and dm u haha, but there's also some good retroactive opinions

[quasi hinge]

Happy with the raws, ignorance is bliss lol

[calm pulsar]

da helll

full black?

[night atlas]

I'm just not gonna lube any of my shit anymore

[quasi hinge]

Pls do, ty

[night atlas]

apparently I am not doing something right LOL

[quasi hinge]

I predict unnecessary premium lol

[night atlas]

now that I'm gonna get sick of my raws w/the issues I keep b*tching about... what're y'alls favorite frankenswitches lol

working w/raptors, jades, pros, maxes, raws, and lekkers (the yellow stem one)

[flat cobalt]

I just found this on AliExpress: $554.51 | MelGeek MADE68 Ultra 2025 Year of the Snake Limited Customized magnetic switch Keyboard TTC Magneto Gaming Wired PC RGB Gift
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNtsFuf

[night atlas]

what site did u see this at

o

[flat cobalt]

It’s on AliExpress but you need to buy an entire keeb

[night atlas]

nvm loool

aw wtf

[flat cobalt]

lol

[night atlas]

fuckin $400???

hell na lol

[flat cobalt]

I did it once for the amethyst jades

[night atlas]

are those HE?

or are u talkin bout actual rocks lmfao

[flat cobalt]

No switches lol

[night atlas]

can't tell no more man these switch names get crazy

[flat cobalt]

These lavender ones

[night atlas]

if i said "yea i hand lubed my rice pudding" to non keebs, they'd never eat my cooking again

[flat cobalt]

They’re original jades though

[calm pulsar]

hell nahhh

fuck that

350 bucks?

[flat cobalt]

388$

[night atlas]

What's the hype behind the venomHE

[calm pulsar]

in my region it is around 350 xd

[night atlas]

are there boards that stand up to the wooting and it's software

haven't bothered to keep up, everything seems a bit sub par

[flat cobalt]

I think speed wise the venom is faster

[flat cobalt]

[gaunt plume]

https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/9J99bPO3dMYO
https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/5BGabq60w3M1

[quasi hinge]

Better than ttc magneto pom?

[flat cobalt]

Bro so ugly

Minecraft switch

[calm pulsar]

adidas switch

[flat cobalt]

lol

[calm pulsar]

bro they literally made triple quadruple rail switch...

[gaunt plume]

Yeah, Looks terrible.

[sacred elm]

hell no 😭

but then again, you never see switches so its fine

[gaunt plume]

How about Deng God Pro?

[sacred elm]

😳

thats interesting, whats the travel?

is it 3.8

[flat cobalt]

Oh pretty plum

[calm pulsar]

this one looks cool but its probably all the same as jades at this point

[sacred elm]

apparently latenpow has looting magnetic keyboard

[gaunt plume]

https://e.tb.cn/h.Tn0ZPhwXBBjAiTm?tk=3JqEefrH4qW

[sacred elm]

lol

jade pro copy

[night atlas]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WootingKB/s/Qdy9IPSHaX

found an example of my problem

lol just came across it randomly

[night atlas]

Reminds me of the time crystal in Satisfactory lol

[calm pulsar]

next iteration of ttcs lmao

0.0000000000000001% wobble

[sacred elm]

negative deadzone

[night atlas]

What’s your guys plate that y’all running

[magic plume]

Yall how long does it take for wooting to restock switches??

[night atlas]

thinking about copping a new one, this pc plate sounds nice but I think it’s time for a change + the thinner spacebar area is warping

[uneven cradle]

PP plate

[night atlas]

Which ones? The jades, pros and maxes are on Amazon

[magic plume]

The magnetic jades. Was excited to purchase my first wooting module and it said they were out of stock😪

[sacred elm]

fr4

[calm pulsar]

I use fr4 and alu in my frog mini

[sacred elm]

there are jade pros

dont buy jades from wooting

they are outdated and expensive

[night atlas]

Oooooo I didn’t see this in the wooting store before wth

Is it “softer” than pc?

[sacred elm]

yes

[night atlas]

@magic plume prepare to get recruited by many cults

we got the church of raws

we got the frankenswitchers

[uneven cradle]

Wooting doesn't sell it I got a custom plate from a smaller vendor

[night atlas]

we got headless chickens (me)

[magic plume]

😂😂😂😂

[silver nest]

has anyone tried this?

[magic plume]

All advice is taken in very new to all this

[calm pulsar]

tbf there's only 2 of us I think
me and @tawdry tree

[flat cobalt]

Dude wait until I get my custom wrist rest for the cosmos gonna blow everyone’s mind

[quasi hinge]

CF

[calm pulsar]

oh also @tropic urchin though I dont remember if he's using a frankenswitch these days

[flat cobalt]

FR4 the king

[night atlas]

A very loud two 😂 love it tho, seeing your guys breakthrus are pretty awesome

[sacred elm]

he uses jade pros

[calm pulsar]

oh right with cf

[night atlas]

Generally you can’t go wrong with Geon raw he’s the price to performance ratio is unbeatable

[magic plume]

Is that like a manufacture ??

[night atlas]

geon, yes

Raw HE is their switch

Hence geon raw HE

[magic plume]

Ahhh I seeeeee

[night atlas]

yeee, I got mine from here https://divinikey.com/products/geon-raw-he-linear-switches?srsltid=AfmBOoqCHGtFXdJUNrkglosPWxYw3miVRcZBfC8RJC5jcpjADPUxPKKU

the most popular is the 50g spring

at least among this discord

[magic plume]

Dammmmmmm thank you!!!!

[night atlas]

np np

[night atlas]

Which one?

[uneven cradle]

https://cafege.com.au/products/frog-mini-he-plates?variant=44643481387253

not in stock anymore and is specifically for the frog mini case

[sacred elm]

muthafugga you need to hop on fr4 🤓 ☝️

[night atlas]

dude I’m trying to shop for it but. I only see the pc switch plate option with

Wth**

[sacred elm]

its on aliexpress

wooting doesnt sell other plates

[night atlas]

What plate insert do u guys use btw? Poron or silicon

[calm pulsar]

my fr4 from aliexpress (keyboard fun store)

[night atlas]

oooo ok

what’s your config

arcwyn

[flat cobalt]

Poron

I hate silicone

[night atlas]

I fw the sound

[calm pulsar]

in this one it was friction mount, fr4 plate, poron foam and my franken

[night atlas]

Yea same, I want to like it cause it’s more robust for my gummy o ring mount

[calm pulsar]

gmk keycaps

it is also a full black fr4 plate which is cool

[night atlas]

what’s ur switch consist of

And case

[calm pulsar]

case was freebird60

[calm pulsar]

uhh ngl it might be stupid to buy all these switches just to do the franken, but I had these already so I built it 😄

jade bottom, raw stem, black knight upper

[night atlas]

lol I have a lotta diff types and I wanna mess around

max, jades, pros, raptor, raw

lekker (yellow stem) whatever that one is

[calm pulsar]

a big part of the tightness of this franken might be the black knight upper

[night atlas]

Also these fr4 plates say it’s for plate mounted stabs

is there any for screw in

[kind helm]

is the knight top + raw stem tighter than raw top + raw stem?

[calm pulsar]

I used stock screw in stabs here, with the plate being for plate mounts

[kind helm]

i am kinda thinking of getting some more neo for my raw, the bottom of raw wobbles a bit for 0.04 rt

[night atlas]

ok it’s getting late so idk if I’m understanding this correctly lol

these plates should be fine with my screw in stabs right

[kind helm]

just thinking neo bottom + spring + raw top + raw stem, already tested it when i brought like 10 neo sometime ago

[calm pulsar]

I think it is, but not because it was meant to be this way, actually the opposite

like because BKs are made for boxed stem originally, the raw stem in it has a certain sound signature that I like

[kind helm]

man oh man, more ways to spend money

[quasi hinge]

Im even thinking of trying the ttc magneto poms

[quasi hinge]

Will it be night and day vs the raws?

[night atlas]

Josh u have no idea man 😭 thankfully my 2 jobs let me do this rather comfortably

[kind helm]

meanwhile mr arc just has them sitting around

[night atlas]

Dropped 80usd

[quasi hinge]

And my raws are almost glued to the CF plate loool

[night atlas]

Bro raws are impossible to get out, some of them pull out the whole board out of the friction mount lol

[sacred elm]

L switch

[calm pulsar]

lol nahh I also spent my money irresponsibly😭

[quasi hinge]

They are snug in the CF plate too lol

[night atlas]

@calm pulsar

[kind helm]

this works, essentially try to pull the side without the diffusor first

[calm pulsar]

link the one you're looking at

and also which stabs you have?

[kind helm]

but you got real full time job

meanwhile my full time job is forking dog water

[night atlas]

I just found this on AliExpress: $25.51 | Wooting 60HE keyboard FR4 Plate with immersion gold processing treatment ( for plate-mounted stab )
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLGK3F5

I just found this on AliExpress: $25.51 | Wooting 60HE keyboard FR4 Plate with immersion gold processing treatment ( for plate-mounted stab )
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLhHpYR

that’s their only options afaik

[calm pulsar]

im a tech support looser, hope I can be a software engineer some day

[night atlas]

Screw ins from the 60HE+

[sacred elm]

get without flex cuts

[calm pulsar]

damn in my region these dont show up
what is the store called?

well stock 60he screw ins should work with anything

cause they are nice and thin

[night atlas]

Where/what are flex cuts

[night atlas]

Keyboard fun

[kind helm]

i dont know how to fix the link but that is cheaper i think

"i think"

[calm pulsar]

alr should be all good

[harsh dove]

what the

[sacred elm]

@night atlas https://aliexpress.us/item/1005006050178592.html?gatewayAdapt=gloPc2rusMsite&sku_id=12000038605224474

[harsh dove]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806508797025.html