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[dark cypress]

only bc its wireless and my fiancé wants wireless 😪😪 or else id get her the two he

[harsh dove]

My recent video with the TTC POMs is polyfill and tapemod

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

two videos for comparison

[sacred elm]

I tried cotton today, there was tiny difference, I went back to foam 😆

maybe im deaf 🤷‍♂️

havent tried polyfill tho

[vapid leaf]

so i just hand lubed my first 35 of 90 Gateron jade gaming switches.........it made a like 3-5% difference in the sound............................................................................................I'm 100% going to do the rest. now that i can feel and here the difference ooooohhhh they so smooth

[glacial wind]

do sand next

i don't think it'll be all that beneficial, but it would amuse me if you did it

[sacred elm]

no thanks 😭

[quasi hinge]

Has someone actually done that

Like hydrophobic sand or regular sand

Or that play dough like sand for kids?

I honestly cant tell if it is a semi joke lol

[uneven cradle]

There may be a certain youtuber who has done it

[quasi hinge]

I can imagine the hassle of it getting everywhere though…

[stone flax]

hipyo 💔

[fluid ravine]

[quasi hinge]

lol

I dont understand why he doesnt like HE boards

Soon everyone will have them, I see Chinese clones going for 30$ lol

[sacred elm]

hes trying to be different and is just the most casual gamer in the world (even tho he says he plays cs and has thousands of hours)

hes bad

[chilly mural]

"HE not good for me so obv it's not good for everybody"

[flat cobalt]

Like kinetic sand?

https://tenor.com/view/scooping-kinetic-sand-sand-tagious-scoop-kinetic-sand-one-scoop-gif-17871122

[inland jetty]

he probably does have 1k hours but 999 is probably from afk'ing on menu screen 😂 . Idk why he has to lie about that, most reviewers arent elite at games.

[sacred elm]

yea he definitely has no skill at all, but still saying that he cant feel any difference with rt on vs off is weird

[inland jetty]

tbh, if hes a real casual, he probably doesnt even know what rt does or care enough to even actually try it properly lmao

it would be weird not knowing tho as hes been in the space for a while

[sacred elm]

every 80he review was positive and he tried to be different, filled video with bs

[quasi hinge]

Yeah but I would imagine you would need to bag it with small zip lock bags or something to contain. No idea if it even works lol

[sacred elm]

all these mods are mega copium

[quasi hinge]

Ill take your word for it

Not even gonna try looool

[sacred elm]

idk i just tried cotton today

there was barely any difference

lol

[quasi hinge]

Haha

Someone suggested that or polyfil? But yeah Im not sure I would notice anything myself

[sacred elm]

polyfill, but i didnt have it

so i tried cotton instead

[kind helm]

i mean this is when i was using cotton with tofu redux without brass weight, there is also a video online by tempest showing the difference. comparison timestamp in the comment section https://youtu.be/J9iRjeTfuns?feature=shared

there is definitely a difference, but maybe the impact also depends on other things in the case

[quasi hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-interview-james-franco-david-skylark-same-but-different-but-still-same-gif-4956158

[sacred elm]

I just didnt notice the difference when I compared cotton with stock foam.

[kind helm]

reasonable i think since how dense the cotton is packed in there can change the sound (based on the logic from keybored's vid), maybe you just happened to end up with a similar result with the way you did it.

did you want to try polyfill because you find stock foam too "thocky"?

[sacred elm]

I just wanted to try to see the difference

im fine with what i have now

[kind helm]

it maybe worth trying to just spread out the cotton a bit and use less of it. but of course that is if you wanna try

[kind helm]

yee i brought polyfill just to see how it effects the sound

[sacred elm]

yea i think im done for now until i get metal case

cant help pcr much

plastic case is mega copium

[grim terrace]

Hey everyone, I installed the gateron jade pros on my 60he and everything works great. The sound is sooo much better than the stock v1 switches I had on before but the RGB is a bit fucked - white looks blueish now. I installed the northfacing so that should not be the issue. Is this is a known issue?

[inland jetty]

i swapped from mlv vinyl + foam to mineral wool and noticed a difference xD

[sacred elm]

Yes, jade pros mess with rgb

[grim terrace]

I guess it is because the stock switches just have a hole whereas the gaterons have a opaque plastic the lets the rgb shine through.

That is a bummer though.

[kind helm]

just tweak the rgb setting a bit to counter it out. spacebar area may need a little bit of extra tweaking.

[finite kiln]

hey guys what stabilizer does 60he use

[quasi hinge]

Just meme-ing since you guys know more than me ✌️

[high sphinx]

@kind helm the light indicator thing is indeed only on the beta for the venom and you can get ur rapid trigger as sensitve as 0.04 also only on the beta

[grim terrace]

Anyone here with a optimum case? Are you guys still doing tape / kilmat mod on this?

[fallen pecan]

new rakka has recolored gray jade pros

[chilly mural]

cool

[glacial wind]

oh that's nice. Will be better for rgb

[gaunt plume]

This?
https://www.rakka.cn/product/rakka-80-edge

[chilly mural]

seems so

[gaunt plume]

so cool

[chilly mural]

$200

mmm, wonder if it's actually good

[sweet oak]

Kinda want those switches

[stone flax]

Increase rapid trigger distance

[sacred elm]

enable separate press/release sensitivity and set release to 0.3 or 0.4

you can leave press on 0.15

[charred cobalt]

I ordered these, idk if they’re the real thing or not

And it’s got me worried

[sacred elm]

it is

[charred cobalt]

Oh thank you sm

[charred cobalt]

How come the box it comes in is different?

[sacred elm]

that store uses different boxes i guess 🤷‍♂️ but those are jade pros dw

[charred cobalt]

Okay thanks a lot

Now I just need my brass plate

Which get here in 20 days

😭😭😭

[cyan lark]

If that's all you're missing, build it now and put the plate in later

[charred cobalt]

Won’t be a pain to remove?

[sacred elm]

no

[charred cobalt]

I’m just a capitalist idk much about building keebs

[sacred elm]

youll just need to unscrew that fr4(?) plate and put brass instead

[cyan lark]

I don't have a tofu but it's just tray mount right?

[charred cobalt]

Idk

[charred cobalt]

Why would I need to unscrew that

[sacred elm]

wait you meant brass weight

[cyan lark]

Yeah it is. The assembly/disassembly process for tray mount is incredibly simple, like 5m or less

[sacred elm]

i thought switch plate

[charred cobalt]

Yess

[charred cobalt]

I already have one

[cyan lark]

And the plate just screws into the case

[sacred elm]

yea just build it now lol

[cyan lark]

It's like a 5m job to add the plate later

[tropic urchin]

Jade pros are easy to remove for plates. Not an L heijin design for removing

[charred cobalt]

I get the actual pcb tmw

[stone flax]

venom?

👅

[charred cobalt]

Wooting

@sacred elm @cyan lark I’ll definitely see if yall are free tmw to help me build it 👀👀

[cyan lark]

I haven't built in a tofu before. I mentioned the other day you should just look at a youtube video, there are probably dozens.

[charred cobalt]

I found two

[cyan lark]

There you go. If you hit a snag someone in here can surely help.

[charred cobalt]

Btw will I need to do tape mod?

[cyan lark]

Need? No.

[charred cobalt]

Will it make the sound profile deeper

[cyan lark]

Ooh it's 🌨️ Varedis

[tropic urchin]

It’s just sunny for me

[cyan lark]

It changes the sound profile a bit. Up to you if you want to do it and if you like it.

[charred cobalt]

What about burger mounts(

[cyan lark]

I don't know.

[stone flax]

preference

[charred cobalt]

What’s the difference

[stone flax]

softer, less feeling of hotspots thereby more “even”

[tawdry tree]

switch 😃👍

[little glen]

Holy

What are all these

[cyan lark]

Why not more

[little glen]

They‘re not all HE are they

[tropic urchin]

[little glen]

I think i spot jade pro and jade gaming

[chilly mural]

nice collection, can make 2he build with randomized switch placement

[tawdry tree]

They are 🥴

[cyan lark]

All 3 KoM flavors 😋

[little glen]

Wth

[tawdry tree]

It’s about half. These are all the latest switches.

[little glen]

I kinda wanna build a mechanical switch keyboard for my dad

[tawdry tree]

Do it!

[little glen]

He doesnt need any of the features from HE and i think a silent switch would be good

So much research to do then

[stone flax]

they r

[stone flax]

u should

what size he like

[tawdry tree]

Boba U4 silents are nice but I think there are cheaper ones that are as good.

[little glen]

I think he‘s only ever used full size

[stone flax]

pangea

[little glen]

He‘s one of those mfs that gets the cheap membrane keyboard from work and uses that until it breaks

I want to save him from that

[stone flax]

wait the pangeas over

hmm

[stone flax]

https://clickclack.io/products/vtx-intro-s100?

there

[little glen]

I dont think i want to do solder so hotswap it is

Also not sure if plastic or metal or mixed would be best

Since he probably (i assume) wants it to be fairly quiet

[stone flax]

big heavy fullsize if he keeps it in one place

[little glen]

I will consider your suggestion

Itll get expensive quick

[stone flax]

very good board

set for life

think about it

[chilly mural]

damn, insane board

even have tsangan and ISO

I wish there's a HE board with dat

[fluid ravine]

I swear if Feb 3 don't come faster

[covert hazel]

Does anyone know where I can find the size list for the 80 HE modifier keys (shift, space, etc) for if i want to get a custom keycap set?

or does it matter (am new to modding :))

[mild sequoia]

I think its the standard

[calm pulsar]

my 2nd venom is a couple of cities away

[grave mason]

hello everyone I'd like to know if there is any tactile switches compatible with the 60he even if bad. I can't stand the linear switches I have been using the lekker switches for a year and I don't get used to it it feels too floaty too smooth.

[calm pulsar]

I mean the whole adjustable actuation thing and rapid trigger is most useful on linear switches
with tactile switches these features don't work as well

I know there are outemu blues and browns, but they are probably very bad

[grave mason]

Obviously the actuation point will not match the bumb of the tactile switch but it does not have too match. the accuracy does not need to be has perfect has the default keys either and the switch does not have to be smooth either scratchy tactile switches feel great. Do you think the OUTEMU OTM Magnetic Switch Brown would feel like i described ?

@calm pulsar

[calm pulsar]

I would probably just build an MX board with good tactile switches, cause there aren't any interesting ones for HE right now

as for outemu browns, well they are supposed to be tactile, but I never tried them or seen anyone try

there will be some rubber dome for HE some time later

which have tactility

but not sure when they are out

[grave mason]

ok, i saw the gateron jade have a shorter travel distance of 3.5 mm is there any other switch with a shorter distance ? @calm pulsar

[calm pulsar]

gateron jade pro
geon raw he
ttc kom/pom

but they are all linear

just shorter distance

[grave mason]

shorter distance could help me fix the problem I looked into it thank you @calm pulsar

[calm pulsar]

no problem, I hope they feel better for you
they have closed bottoms which feels a bit nicer than stock switches imo

[grave mason]

I will still try to order cupple of the tactile outemu switches just to see what happens with them

[proven wadi]

Any one tried the "Geon Lucifer HE Switches" are they much diff to the Geon Raw He switches?

[kind helm]

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[delicate ridge]

I'm quite new to keyboard modding. What is causing my spacebar to be like this?

I am using WS dash switches, staebies v2.1, and spacebar foam.

[stone flax]

short travel switches and loose keycap tolerances coinciding with regular travel stabilizers

but stem spacers

[barren wasp]

You need to get longpole stabilizers

[calm pulsar]

or stem spacers

[stone flax]

or better keycaps

[delicate ridge]

Thanks. I thought this could be the case, but thought I should ask someone who knows more about this than me :)

[delicate ridge]

I thought GMK was considered high quality.
I am aware they are made with ABS plastic, but I thought the only downside there was shine after a while.

• the tiny mark from the mold on the back of the keycap

[barren wasp]

Keycaps are good it’s the stabilizers fault

[stone flax]

staebies 2.1 increased tolerances

way way way easier to just get stem spacers

Over anything else

that or you can try the stock stabs

[delicate ridge]

Thanks. I will get some spacers.
The problem isn't really noticable unless I press hard on either side, so I will be fine until then.

[hybrid nest]

Hi, quick question. What type of keycaps are compatible with the Wooting two HE?

[kind helm]

whatever that supports normal keyboard should work with wooting as well

[hybrid nest]

so the keycaps i used with my cherry mx silver should work with the wooting?

[kind helm]

yes

[hybrid nest]

thanks

[dim mica]

would the wooting module fit in this case?
https://clickclack.io/products/group-buy-kezewa-snake-60-mechanical-keyboard-kit?variant=42051639214116

[calm pulsar]

says it's gummy mount, so might require special cutouts on the pcb to fit, but the usb port placement is correct for wooting

might work

[dim mica]

thank you, does special cutouts = holes somewhere in the middle or just grind out some edges?

[calm pulsar]

gummy oring mount pcbs have small cutouts on edges, but since you place the pcb on top of an oring, maybe it would just work with wooting

I would look at a build video for this board and try to figure this out

[dim mica]

appreciate the feedback and suggestion

[fluid ravine]

I don't think it's compatible base on the USB cut out

I think it sits lower than what wooting needs

[calm pulsar]

isnt it just like gh60

ohh its quite low hmm

[fluid ravine]

WK layout yeah, the PCB just lay in the case with friction mount but the USB cut out sits a lot lower

That's why there's a daughter board

And the fact that it's place on the left rather than the middle is pretty obv that it needs to sit lower, if it's on level with the PCB then there's isn't room for the gummy mount to work with it in the way

[calm pulsar]

ggs then @dim mica

[fluid ravine]

Not compatible

A venom can I'm pretty sure

[calm pulsar]

venom gang

[fluid ravine]

Oh yeah venom def can

[kind helm]

looks like venom can work

this bb kinda sexy

[fluid ravine]

Mhm

It looks nice

[fluid ravine]

Snake year for lunar New Year's as well

Nice

[kind helm]

the green one fucks

[fluid ravine]

Snake+Venom

Made for each other?

[kind helm]

only 350 dollar for the case

[fluid ravine]

[kind helm]

i am not doing it

NO

[calm pulsar]

theres a color that is kbdfans only

[fluid ravine]

Holeh

[dark cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[calm pulsar]

wkl or hhkb venom would be fancy

[kind helm]

i need to do ctrl c and ctrl v as a programmer

[polar girder]

Genius

[calm pulsar]

hhkbers press caps+c

[polar girder]

Yeah Geon is great value

[dark cypress]

function layer

[polar girder]

Venom and legerra going to go hard

[kind helm]

ahhh

[kind helm]

you getting leggera? i thought frog mini is end game

[calm pulsar]

geon shouldve called leggeras snakes lol

[fluid ravine]

Finna check everyday till that shit comes out

Gonna tell my friend to purchase it for meright away

Pay him later

Need that caseee

[fluid ravine]

I mean it is called "Frog-mini-leggera" sooo

[calm pulsar]

frog mini lite

[fluid ravine]

[kind helm]

i actually think optimum case friction mount is really good if you want no flex but a good enough mount for that maximal gamer performance copium

[fluid ravine]

I'M FLEXING

[kind helm]

well actually the one we want is frog mini leggera pesante

light

[fluid ravine]

You see I would go broke

I would be in debt in fact

[fluid ravine]

It's "Frog-mini-pesante" actually

[uneven cradle]

[fluid ravine]

[calm pulsar]

you think its simple to support our lord and savior geon?

[kind helm]

this s44t makes 0 sense

[fluid ravine]

I think it does ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Pesante: Heavy
Leggera: Lite

[calm pulsar]

very logical no?

[fluid ravine]

Great words to be in fact

[fluid ravine]

No

We're just mere disappointments

[uneven cradle]

Neo60 cu though 👀

[calm pulsar]

db too diff for venom sadge

[fluid ravine]

OH NAAA

"Le jjera"

Wtf 😭

I mean sure

[kind helm]

what the db look like? do you know

every pic i found the db is covered by the internal weight

[fluid ravine]

What's db?

[calm pulsar]

yeah its way different, some black plastic surrounds the usb-c

[kind helm]

i wonder if you can just fit a cable through the hole on the internal weight instead of using their default way of connecting

if this works then venom maybe still on the menu

[kind helm]

daughter board :3

[fluid ravine]

Ah

[kind helm]

neo's design is perfect imo, show off that curve without going too crazy with the design

[fluid ravine]

[kind helm]

i can't do mx switch anymore, he switch is just too smooth

sound i can accept, its just different from mx, but not necessarily bad, at least to me

[polar girder]

No

Sticking with frog mini

Just saying

Good value

[little glen]

damn that is pretty

itll be super expensive i assume

[kind helm]

not really if i remember correctly

[little glen]

also where did you find those renders i would like to take a closer look

[kind helm]

https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/Ollw859dEnwY

[kind helm]

a bit less than 200 usd

[calm pulsar]

oh thats neo60 btw, not CU

[little glen]

thats not so bad

damn that is pretty

[uneven cradle]

Singa60 anyone

Don't know what it looks like but I know I want it

[bronze coyote]

yo what aftermarket cases for 80he are you guys using
got the plastic one and thought i could buy a case after to switch it into+change keycaps but not seeing many options

[little glen]

gt-80

i really like this thing

feels good overall

if you would like to see/hear i did also post some pictures and sound tests previously

[bronze coyote]

thats the only one i saw too, but its only on preorder right now 😩

[little glen]

there is one other one but that one's preorder too

i would recommend the gt-80 if you like the look of it and just wait it out

you wont get whatever you buy for over a week anyway due to CNY

[bronze coyote]

its nice looking, just pricy and the only one i saw, was just wanting to browse options

ill prob get it if i cant find anything else

[little glen]

there is also the bone80 but that one is more expensive as far as i know

[bronze coyote]

oo let me go look at that

[little glen]

i personally like the look of the gt-80 more but maybe you like the bone80

[bronze coyote]

looks pretty similar to me tbh LOl

[calm pulsar]

oh this one is kinda cool too, more square look compared to gt-60

[little glen]

yeah

and more "traditional" lightbar

tho i really like the lightbar design on gt80

[calm pulsar]

nvm I hate this

I like a consistent front lip lol

this is weird

[little glen]

yeah thats kinda weird

[uneven cradle]

Yeah that is a little odd

[calm pulsar]

it reminds me of the 60% Eden case, there is a weird cutout on the sides which turned me away from this case

[cyan lark]

Keyboard hairlip

[calm pulsar]

would be cool if it wasnt there, also wtf is that front gap lol

[tawdry tree]

that looks like the bit broke and they just left it ngl

that unfinished look 🤮

[calm pulsar]

the board is 380 too

[tawdry tree]

to each their own ig

[calm pulsar]

the designer also insults frog mini lol

[tawdry tree]

[calm pulsar]

he uses geons tadpoles, but for the pcb

[delicate ridge]

What size stem spacers do I need for the Staebies v2.1?

[tawdry tree]

Geon’s or any for that matter but Geon’s are the most easy to find.

[little glen]

he doesnt want writing on his keyboard that he cant even see when using it

[calm pulsar]

I think geon has 2 sizes, but they differ 0.01mm

[delicate ridge]

But what size?
I heard they decreased it by 0.1mm for better compatibility

[calm pulsar]

more importantly what switch you have

[delicate ridge]

ws dash

[tawdry tree]

0.4

[delicate ridge]

Thanks

[tawdry tree]

Are you experiencing issues?

[tawdry tree]

Ah, I see.

[delicate ridge]

Was just about to link that message.

[tawdry tree]

The spacers will resolve that.

[kind helm]

100/10 edgy boi. "challenging the idea that a keyboard should just be a rectangle"

[calm pulsar]

yeah and proceeds to add details for the sake of adding them

[tawdry tree]

he innovatively transformed a rectangle to a rectangle with weird angles.

[little glen]

waiting for someone to make a keyboard case that is a perfect circle

that fits a normal 60% pcb

[calm pulsar]

pizza keyboard from glarses

[kind helm]

i was gonna say

[calm pulsar]

https://youtu.be/v51qhmM6G70\

[kind helm]

also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH5gBznP7dQ

[little glen]

ok but when is it going into mass production

[little glen]

also is it all metal

[calm pulsar]

fuck I watched a minute of this and now im hungry

[polar girder]

Gross

Yeah bought RAW’s and stem spacers. Now I need new stabs

[sweet oak]

Keyboard modding

[calm pulsar]

that's what we do

[sweet oak]

But can you mod keyboard into decahedron

[little glen]

keyboard in the shape of a d20 with a keypad on each side

[kind helm]

btw i thought this would be sold out fast

little did i know, its still up in 2025

[little glen]

ive watched maybe 2 glarses videos ever so i dont know if the switch is good or not

[kind helm]

its mid

[little glen]

maybe i should watch some more of his videos

i did enjoy the few i watched a few years ago

[calm pulsar]

I guess it's just a tactile mech switch, just with better tactility than mx browns

his content is fun outside of that meme

[little glen]

is there a tactile switch that isnt shit and also silent

probably impossible

but i'm thinking of making a board for my dad and i think that would probably be the one he likes most

[calm pulsar]

silents are usually controversial for most ppl lol

but I never really even used any popular MX switches outside of gateron low profile so I don't know

I still have these hmx to try out some day

[little glen]

he's used to cheap membrane board from work so i dont want him to get jumpscared by loud clacky mech switches immediately

[kind helm]

this is using Hyacinth(风信子) V2 by Sillyworks x HMX

[stone flax]

That shits terrible

[kind helm]

its a good meme though no?

[stone flax]

not even

[autumn temple]

Hello everyone! i am relatively new to the keyboard modding community but I just wanted to ask if there was a better magnetic switches compatible with the wooting that gives a more satisfying bottom out sound?

[stone flax]

raw he, jade pros

[kind helm]

i brought the hyacinth v2 despite what you said i think they are okay, why the hate sir?

[cyan lark]

TTC KoM

[stone flax]

theyre bad

[autumn temple]

The bottom outs arent the greatest on the Lekker switches because they are hollow right? Like there is an emptiness in the middle of the swtich?

[stone flax]

ya and they bottom out on rails

[kind helm]

i read this thingy and decided to give it a try, plus you mentioned they are bad and that made me extra curious

[calm pulsar]

yeah and closed bottom switches like geon raw he or jade pros have more soul in the sound

[stone flax]

my batch have overlube issues

40+/70 had mushy bottom out

same as a ton of people

who ordered from keebsforall

[cyan lark]

Geon Raw isn't closed bottom

[stone flax]

it was most likely a batch/vendor thing

but it blew

[stone flax]

functionally closed bottom

[kind helm]

i got mine from divinikey and i think it was fine for the brief time i had it

[sweet oak]

Mango magnetic switches

[calm pulsar]

they are definitely more closed bottom than lekkers, just semi-open

[stone flax]

yummy

[cyan lark]

Spiritually closed 🧘‍♂️

[kind helm]

already gave it to my friend and she likes it so me happy

[sweet oak]

Wootilion dollar idea

[polar girder]

lol yeah right

There’s just no good open bottom HE

[kind helm]

even raw sounds a bit leaky after trying jade pro ngl

but thankfully not in a bad way, or at least i should say it doesn't bother me

[polar girder]

lol last time I said this I got yelled at

Yeah I want Jade pro I think but venom and raw is a good deal

[polar girder]

Mango Magneto

[cyan lark]

Got yelled at for saying an objective truth? 🤷

[polar girder]

lol yeah bro

[cyan lark]

Weird

[polar girder]

Imagine

[sweet oak]

https://tenor.com/view/magneto-whats-happening-wait-what-gif-20729197

[kind helm]

its "debatable" since the way the term is defined within the community

[stark osprey]

You overlube that SOB and it's coming out the bottom, because it's open. Case closed.

[calm pulsar]

its natural to distinguish open bottom full travel switches, and the ones that have extra plastic to reduce travel and change the bottom out sound

more like raws are spiritually open

[polar girder]

I mean there’s switches with a hole in them (open) and there’s switches without a hole in them (closed)

sooooo yeah

Semi open

[stark osprey]

Yup everything else is mental gymnastics.

[polar girder]

“Not completely open but definitely not closed”

[calm pulsar]

okay so you want to say that raws are closer to lekkers?

[little glen]

maybe i will try jade pros some day

[cyan lark]

Schrodinger's switch

[calm pulsar]

in terms of sound and feel

[stone flax]

genius quote

whoever said that is cute

[calm pulsar]

actually I noticed you said "semi open" and you can disregard my question xd

I just feel like in terms of sound and feel raws are 90% closed bottom and 10% open, but I still would call them closed for simplicity

[stone flax]

Raws have more in common with jade pros

Reduced travel
Bottom out on pole
Tighter tolerances

if you take a hole puncher and cut the inner diameter of a jade pro bottom housing

does it become an open bottom

yes

but it still wont be like a lekker or traditional ks20 and so forth

[kind helm]

raw should have its own category

"leaky closed bottom"

[calm pulsar]

btw chat

I ordered lx60 after all

won't work with venom but I just like the looks and have my first MX switches to try out

[tawdry tree]

U4 silents are not shit compared to other silent switches, they’re decent.

[kind helm]

improvement is so meh

[calm pulsar]

that is with the psyop frames out of thin air?

or raw performance

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWSlOC_jiLQ not a clue, i just clicked on the vid to briefly see the improvement

[tawdry tree]

raw

[kind helm]

20% improvement is so meh

[tawdry tree]

with the fake frames it’s a lot more but latency also takes a big hit

[calm pulsar]

hmm yeah seems not good for the price increase

but I guess you don't upgrade from 4000 into 5000 right away

[tawdry tree]

depends how much they’ll be. if the price stays at msrp (which it fucking won’t) then it wouldn’t be bad.

[calm pulsar]

my 4080 is totally fine
but I likely will upgrade the 7800x3d once 9800x3d is cheap

[calm pulsar]

yeah, but with the hype on each series' launch it's also good to wait for a bit for the price to stabilize

[tawdry tree]

I think the fe card is gonna go way up in price

more so than any previous fe card did

but we’ll see

[calm pulsar]

why? is it super well designed this time?

[tawdry tree]

pretty much, yeah

that’s the most impressive part imo

[kind helm]

fe thermal not dog poop

yay

[tawdry tree]

decent in sff too

sff that supports 3slot, 1 slot used for airflow

https://youtu.be/8PDYJI0W6Gk

[little glen]

it also looks cool

i really like the design of it

[tawdry tree]

it looks great

buying it for performance ❌
buying it for aesthetics ✅

[little glen]

man i'm so upset that i have to wait for my packages for over a week now

[calm pulsar]

who put 💯

[kind helm]

double the price for the same performance

[tawdry tree]

forget them and be surprised when they arrive!

[kind helm]

my 3 braincells hurting

[little glen]

geon shipping on the 3rd and kbdfans shipping on like the 6th

[polar girder]

Yeah 4080 chilling rn

[calm pulsar]

you will forget about these packages

[polar girder]

Honestly for more frames I need better CPU’s

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughing-hypnosis-gif-14144756

[cyan lark]

Jedi shit

[chilly mural]

Me want, but there'll prop be 1 slot 5090/5080

[little glen]

i guess i could use the time to "finish" modding my 80he with fresh new stabs and all that before that stuff arrives

[tawdry tree]

surely

[calm pulsar]

yeah same

[polar girder]

CS2 .1% lows still dogshit for all CPU

[calm pulsar]

better cpu = better 1% lows

[calm pulsar]

I have 64 gigs of ram sitting here waiting to be installed, to have more stable lows in tarkov

[cyan lark]

Getting these beefy cards to pump out 300 fps on CS seems like silicon abuse

[chilly mural]

Just be content with 120fps

[calm pulsar]

"silicon abuse" is a good description of the gaming pc market

[cyan lark]

GenAI

[little glen]

4090ti

[kind helm]

5090 is actually a heater

[polar girder]

I have 4080/14900k running pretty smooth but fps still drops below 200 sometimes

Garbage

[calm pulsar]

damn 90s are crazy
I will probably wait for 6080

[polar girder]

Lolz good one

For single player yeah

[barren wasp]

No need for house heating anymore just buy a 5090

[polar girder]

4k/120hz is chilling

[tropic urchin]

6090 better solve the mystery of life for how expensive it’s gonna be

[uneven cradle]

Good luck finding one looks like the FE cards are in very rare supply

[barren wasp]

Is 3060 -> 5070 a jump that’s worth it or should I wait for 6000s

[calm pulsar]

it has funny sex number so it will be $6900

[barren wasp]

Takes like 2 years for each gen right

[chilly mural]

Assuming 5070 as good as 4080, sure

[calm pulsar]

yeah

[kind helm]

AMD YES

if you dont do ai and rt

fck nvidia

[chilly mural]

Imo, i would go for 5070ti just for the extra 4gb of vram

[chilly mural]

Goon gpu

[calm pulsar]

best at rendering ai girls

[vapid leaf]

So I just put some 22mm 35g springs in my gateron jade gaming (stock 20mm actually 18mm spring) and would like some sound opinions as I'm not sure how the silicone tray u have them in is effecting the sound

[barren wasp]

Is it just me or did all three sound identical

[calm pulsar]

I think lubed sounds the best, but also different positions on this switch tester can sound a bit different

I do hear the spring though

[vapid leaf]

they are all very very similar. 100%

[calm pulsar]

so its nice when its lubed

[vapid leaf]

ahhhh i had not accounted for that

i think im hearing the least spring on the 22 mm that or its just a deeper sound

[calm pulsar]

if its a 35g spring it probably has very thin weak coils, so could be less noice due to that

[chilly mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQEN17L84jg

[kind helm]

i fck with that

[chilly mural]

naow, if it can shuffle between connecting to the board inside and board outside, it'll be cool

wooting at home and wooting on the go

[cyan lark]

That's rad. Always loved computer keyboard combos.

I dunno why, there's just something magical about that half step back from a laptop.

[static tendon]

Anyone know of any websites that still sell the white wilba tech salvation keyboard case only?

[polar girder]

Anyone watch Severance?

Those keystrokes so satisfying lol

Nice SPK keycaps too

SA profile FTW

[stone flax]

Ya

New season

dasher keycaps

based on the old

https://preview.redd.it/a-data-general-dasher-6053-computer-terminal-liiks-like-it-v0-q20wwjexk9o81.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=baf53df2dd45f98aa9e35afe99a56ffa4ef37cea

[quasi hinge]

They should call it the 4090 Ti

[quasi hinge]

Same

[quasi hinge]

Its like the 13/14 gen intel series, just same architecture but more power

[quasi hinge]

It really is, same 4nm? process just more cores and power…. Sounds similar to the 13/14 gen fiasco

I have a 14900k and feel ripped off

Ill keep my 4000 series card and move from intel when prices come down a bit… AMD all the way

[kind helm]

i doubt they can get it smaller, i think up to a certain point things are too unstable to be used

[quasi hinge]

I have no idea but after dealing with the voltage issue on my 14th gen cpu…. I am wary of the 5000 series cards. Seems like they are shamelessly squeezing their customers similar to intel…

[kind helm]

they are already shamelessly packing ai in their "tests" and act like everyone is supposed to run that copium with every game

[quasi hinge]

And those crazy fps numbers are good for single player games but you need brute force rendering for FPS competitive game right?

[kind helm]

not even good for single player game from my perspective, i can run framegen with fsr on cyberpunk but i just stick with no fsr at all, fsr4 that is coming soon maybe better but i don't like the idea of fake frame

you get "smoother" experience but you get ghosting and delay at the same time

with delay, is the experience actually "smoother"? to me, not really

but yea for comp game it is definitely not good, as it adds delay. but luckily nvidia or amd have less control over those games, as comp players care about optimization much more

nvidia or amd maybe able to pay off game companies into baiting players to get the latest and greatest card but comp game if optimization is bad then less people would play

[quasi hinge]

Agree with you 100%

[quasi hinge]

The delay is ridiculous lol

I would just wait for the 6000 series and for this AI fad to be over lol

[uneven cradle]

It's a different architecture on what is pretty much just a slightly newer version of the same node

[quasi hinge]

Is it? Apologies, I must be mistaken

I remember a reviewer said its basically the same just more tensor cores and some slight architectural changes for the AI fluff

[stone flax]

#🔌│tech-2

[barren wasp]

By delay do you mean latency? Optimum tested it and it’s only by a couple milliseconds on new DLSS and frame gen

[kind helm]

never watched his vid. but from what i understand, lower the framerate you have to start with, higher the delay. and at high framerate, what is the point of having the extra frame when you are getting ghosting as the tradeoff.

idk maybe i am just too old and dumb to appreciate the new tech

[chilly mural]

Just appreciate the extra vram for running your AI waifu

[kind helm]

that i can respect, but overpriced af still unfortunately.

[inland jetty]

the higher the delay, the better the satisfaction.

[kind helm]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-the-more-you-buy-the-more-you-save-keynote-2018-gif-12315008507302833354

[inland jetty]

see, you get it. These people just don't get it. 😂
jokes aside, hes passing off features meant for lower end cards as premium features for the top gpu in the market. this clown

[kind helm]

all good, makes me appreciate my 6950xt ever more

[inland jetty]

likewise xD. I will be keeping this for a while it seems. Im so glad I was able to snag one. I hope yours is treating you well

[harsh dove]

ghosting has been reduced a lot

All the things you're complaining about have actually been reduced a lot

[fluid ravine]

One more missing piece!

The Leggera

Hurry tf up Geon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jk no rush

(PLS)

[harsh dove]

• https://youtu.be/rlePeTM-tv0?si=Zl0YZs0FgfZzRiJo

• https://youtu.be/B_fGlVqKs1k?si=oOpp0CUUQy-Y8Do8

• https://youtu.be/uyxXRXDtcPA?si=6tPgVjCTGoTy0dIk

• https://youtu.be/uyxXRXDtcPA?si=6tPgVjCTGoTy0dIk

• https://youtu.be/qQn3bsPNTyI?si=8A4B-0ZUXckXy8iZ

Should be in #🔌│tech but if you actually wanna learn about some of the stuff you guys are complaining about, here's some good places to start. Instead of just wondering/guessing what the tech does

[harsh dove]

and hate to break it to you but it's not gonna be over when 6000 comes out lol

Gonna be even more AI by then

[glacial wind]

we’re going to be the ai by then

[chilly mural]

If 6000 gives its 90 series 48gb of vram, I'm happy. Prop gonna cost as much as rtx A6000 used

[glacial wind]

I’m ready for them to also double the size of the gpu again so the 6000 series will be even bigger for fun

[chilly mural]

800w gpu

300w cpu

And 200w for everything else

[kind helm]

just because the tech is getting better, doesn't mean the whole idea with ai graphic for video game is not cope. eventhough my career pretty much depends on ai going well at this point.

[uneven cradle]

Next gen could be on a proper new node which would see efficiency/performance gains

This one's kind of just an improved version of the same node as last time on a slightly updated architecture

[glacial wind]

I think the interesting thing with new tech is that nonsense marketing stuff asrock was doing for their motherboards about stable voltage delivery might actually matter as we’ve seen with the 80he usb high power stuff

[kind helm]

i pray for that. i personally think though we getting closer to just making bigger chip instead of smaller transistors.

[glacial wind]

I think they were calling it “ultra usb power ports” or something like that

[harsh dove]

I wouldn't say its cope lol

AI is here to stay it seems

They say no more brute force rendering

[inland jetty]

"brute force rendering" hot damn

[harsh dove]

Gonna be all neural rendering

[kind helm]

imagine doing everything manually and actually optimize the game when you can just brute force light bounce then generate frame through AI

[harsh dove]

I've realized people aren't actually afraid of AI, they think they are, but they're actually afraid of people, not AI. AI is just a tool, it's like saying guns kill people but they don't, people do.

It's what people do with the AI that can become a problem

[quasi hinge]

Im hoping gamers will complain enough that they wont gaslight us with AI frame gen and give us a real step up in brute force frame gen for competitive games. A person can hope lol

[glacial wind]

Don’t worry, I asked AI for you

[kind helm]

i still dont see the point at using ai for rendering tbh if perfection is the goal. ai essentially is train, store, and predict patterns. but with render stuff you can just create & calculate the patterns yourself. ai makes things a lot easier for sure but its not gonna be perfect. and from what i heard, optimization is something that is being intentionally skipped so people would buy newer gpu & to save cost in creating a game.

i am down to see ai being used in development of game, and using that as a way to save cost though. but some manual finetuning after whatever ai thing they do is probably necessary to achieve a balance between saving development cost and quality.

[calm pulsar]

from AAA slop to AI slop games

[kind helm]

its the future, i think that is a great idea, and a good way for nvidia to rig the system if they develop a tool to help game dev. i think its time for nvidia to hire me

AI path trace? they can probably even do a real path trace from time to time during the game section to do some reinforcement learning

[chilly mural]

AI slop already bad in Roleplay...

Can't imagine AI slop in a game

[mossy river]

we should have the gpus generate one frame then just hallucinate the rest kof the game aftet that

using ai of course

[inland jetty]

BO6

[fluid ravine]

We still talking abt PC stuff

[kind helm]

keyboard stuff coming soon™. just like wooting's new pcb

[fluid ravine]

Wait wut

Am I missing smth

[kind helm]

mr cam leaked a while back in his stream that wooting team is working on something that he cant talk about.

lets hope that is the wooting60he ultra plus pro performance gaming version

[calm pulsar]

that wooting gpu is about to go hard

[fluid ravine]

My PC is from Wooting

If you zoom in you'll see it

Wooting ENVY PC HE

[kind helm]

did mr thackson leak wooting's secret project

[calm pulsar]

lmao

[fluid ravine]

Shhh

[calm pulsar]

nice wooting slippers too

[fluid ravine]

thanks
They come with Rappy Snappy as well

Helps me take steps in my apt when I'm stuck on my chair

[sacred elm]

nah its not gonna be keyboard

its probably tactile switch or some shit

[kind helm]

if its a tactile switch imma quit this dc and break my wooting60 pcb

[quasi hinge]

Asking AI to see if AI will be tempered lol

[sacred elm]

60he pro or smth will eventually happen, but i doubt it will be anytime soon

[chilly mural]

maybe next year

[sacred elm]

Ya

[chilly mural]

wooting be coming out with 0.10ms latency with all the optimization they did with 60he

[calm pulsar]

I have more time to cry about 7u and tsangan layout so wooting budges and makes that

[sacred elm]

shit gonna have negative latency smh

[chilly mural]

true 0.05mm actuation

lekker v3 becoming the god of all HE switches.

[sacred elm]

I probably wont get it (Im lying)

[tawdry tree]

A new layout king might be upon us. https://www.rakka.cn/post/rakka-60-v2

[calm pulsar]

STEPPED CAPS LOCK

[tawdry tree]

If enough are interested, it would be sick to have.

I mean……

[calm pulsar]

would you be so kind as to fill out this foam

[tawdry tree]

Done did.

I hope it’ll happen.

[calm pulsar]

same

[chilly mural]

ljknbadefkjnbadg THIS IS WHAT I WANT

split space bar

[tawdry tree]

Because it is a board with a billion different layouts, I think it’s safe to say this is what we all want. 😂😂

[chilly mural]

I mean like, if I can interchange between 7u and split spacebar that'll be even better

[untold wigeon]

is there a premium-feeling budget case, say cheaper than the tofu60?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, you can change out everything. Of course if you want split 7U, you’ll use a 7U bottom row.

[chilly mural]

IC check done

[tawdry tree]

Tofu is pretty much the cheapest you can find that is of good quality.

[chilly mural]

bet it'll cost $120-150 just for the pcb

[tawdry tree]

Probably, but I wouldn’t mind that tbh.

Well, maybe a bit less. The current Rakka 60/64 wasn’t that expensive.

[kind helm]

not everyone is wooting

[terse lintel]

Guh how do I fix this

The upstroke is so loud

[glacial wind]

That’s about what it cost before already just fyi

Rakka isn’t an entry level brand for pricing

[kind helm]

lazy way is probably put some kilmat or foam in the cap

[terse lintel]

I already have foam in it

[glacial wind]

iirc the pcb kit they provided for previous projects was about $130 usd or so

[terse lintel]

its why the sound of pressing the key down is so silent

[kind helm]

then maybe get a softer plate

or use a open bottom switch for that spacebar

https://www.rakka.cn/product/rakka-80-edge a bit over 200usd

how true this is idk

[glacial wind]

That’s a full keyboard. But yeah rakka isn’t in the budget category - they’re a premium brand

[kind helm]

yee i was looking at that mainly because of this

[chilly mural]

I can just hope a reputable tester can test it

[kind helm]

who was the korean guy that tony mentioned awhile back?

i am trying to look up if that dude did a test with it

[chilly mural]

Eyejoker?

[kind helm]

ah yea

[glacial wind]

Venoms are rakka btw

the tkl ones

Their software was redone by geon but they were previously all rakka made and programmed

[kind helm]

ahh right i remember seeing rakka's name on geon's stream. think it was on a pcb or something

[chilly mural]

very noice, just hope Rakka take a note of that and improve their own software further

[glacial wind]

Their main criticism is they got slow with updates and bug fixing

After they blew up and collabed with Chinese brands their updates became very slow

[uneven cradle]

why fix what has already sold, when you can make the next product and add those updates to that

[kind helm]

also rakka was 899 yuan (123.75usd) with pcb, plate, switches, and foam

https://shop.rakka.cn/products/rakka-60 now they up the price actually... to 1699 yuan (233.87 usd), but you get a poopy tray mount alu case on top of the old bundle

also came across this evil creation... this s44t is more cursed than switch tape mod... https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1SH4y1r7bG/

using manually sanded "brass tape?" on the stem to reduce wobble issue from the old gateron magnetic switch (lekker v1 type s44t)

[calm pulsar]

woaw look at this set

so nice

[kind helm]

how much though

[calm pulsar]

no price available I think, but gb starts feb 21st

[little glen]

With sets like this that are basically just beige with a few extra colors mixed in sometimes i would love it if they could just sell those caps on their own

Ah nvm this one has green legends at least

Rubrehose pissed me off cause it was just beige with a few caps changed up

[loud pollen]

does the 60HE module come with cable

[sacred elm]

yes

[bold grail]

Guys does changing the case of the keyboard make a big diffrence

on the wooting 60he

I want to switch to a Tofu60 Reddux

And I will lube and tape mod

Will all that make a substantial difference

[little glen]

Yeah

[bold grail]

Is there any other easy mod I could do to make it thockier

[little glen]

Put in poly fill

[bold grail]

Ohk

Is there like a Tofu60 Reddux Black Wooting guide I can follow

[prime orbit]

My entire build is black

[bold grail]

Do you use Reddux?

Ohhhh damn ur keyboard cleaannn

I was thinking of getting Japanese keycaps

Just cuz lol

Do you think I should get diff keycaps?

Or is it alright

[bold grail]

Its clean I just saw

[prime orbit]

I was gonna get JP key caps too

Decided on blanks

They come In today

So new pic incoming 🫡

[bold grail]

The build clean asf

[prime orbit]

Ty sir

Are you starting from module or reg

[bold grail]

Okay so this is what Im gonna do,
Tofu60 Reddux, JP Keycaps (Prob from amazaon) All Lubed, Tape mod,

[bold grail]

Reg

I dint know I would wanna get into modding

[prime orbit]

Redux g

Get the brass bar

Get the friction fit pad too

Makes life easier

[bold grail]

I have not gone that far wth is a friction fit pad

Lol

[prime orbit]

It basically eliminates screws and foam and stuff

Really nice

[bold grail]

Hmm ohk

I might not get a brass bar, On a budget

[prime orbit]

Eventually

[bold grail]

How long does it take usually to lube

[bold grail]

Yeah fs

[prime orbit]

Not sure I didn’t do it

Geon comes lubed great alr

[bold grail]

No need for a extra lube layer?

[prime orbit]

I don’t think so

Some people do tho

[bold grail]

Hmm Ohk

[bold grail]

Yeah thats what ive heard

Also how to eliminate rattle?

[tepid phoenix]

Takes around 1-2hrs

[bold grail]

Hm ohk

[tepid phoenix]

On stabilizers?

[bold grail]

Yes

[tepid phoenix]

The holee mod

It's where u stick a piece of bandaid up ur stabilizer

[bold grail]

How many mods is a good amount of mods lmao

[tepid phoenix]

Bit hard but no rattle forever

[bold grail]

LMAOO

[tepid phoenix]

Idk but I got them all lol

[bold grail]

W

[tepid phoenix]

Lol

[bold grail]

Whats ur entire build

I dont rlly need th emods

JUst the build

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-sora-kh3-kh-gif-27223516

[tepid phoenix]

Raptor switches tofu 60he random black keycaps fr4 plate and I forgot the stabilizers +tons of foam

The stabilizers was from a sketchy Chinese web

[prime orbit]

Raptor

[tepid phoenix]

Why so sad?

[prime orbit]

One of the worst switches unfortunately

[tepid phoenix]

Dam I'ma use my new ones then

Switching now

[prime orbit]

Which ones

[tepid phoenix]

Don't know

[prime orbit]

Best are raw he

[tepid phoenix]

This stuff

[prime orbit]

Oh

Either Lucifer

Or black knight

Both I’ve used

Nice

[tepid phoenix]

🙂

I think bit heavy though with the 50 ish gram spring

[prime orbit]

You’ll get used to it

[tepid phoenix]

If I don't get use to them I will use my ceramic keycaps to make them feel lighter

[prime orbit]

W

[tepid phoenix]

What's ur build + mods?

[bold grail]

Lol was that a joke?

Switching, Cuz there switches?

LMAO

....

[tepid phoenix]

No

[tepid phoenix]

No

[tepid phoenix]

They sound better but more heavy

[bold grail]

Also you can just search up @prime orbit Build

Om

[tepid phoenix]

Wtf u can

Huuhhhh

[prime orbit]

Black redux with brass, Lucifer switches, black pc plate, friction fit pad, blank black key caps, and soon knight v3 black stabs

🙏

[bold grail]

Redux with brass, black pc plate, frition fit, lucifer switched, on the way blank black keycaps

A bit diff ohk

[bold grail]

In discord lmao

Just go into search top right put in Erix. Stalk all his mssgs till you find what he sent

[tepid phoenix]

Should I friction fit mine? And dose the brass make diff to sound

[tepid phoenix]

Thx bro

[prime orbit]

The brass makes a deeper sound

Also makes the build heavier

[bold grail]

Lmao

All I care about is the THOCKKK

[prime orbit]

And the friction fit I recommend to everyone

So nice

Brass makes it thock

Mhm mhm

[tepid phoenix]

I will get that rq

[bold grail]

In the cart

Bought

Lmao

[tepid phoenix]

done

[prime orbit]

W

[tepid phoenix]

What d u think bout PET plastic sheets?

[bold grail]

vat

[prime orbit]

Huh

[bold grail]

What is a PET plastic sheet

[tepid phoenix]

It's bit controversial

[bold grail]

Taking skin of a PET?

[tepid phoenix]

P.E.T

[bold grail]

...

[tepid phoenix]

It's a plastic sheet that u put with foam to deepen sound

But works half the time or mutes ur keyboard

[prime orbit]

Don’t need it with friction fit

Eliminates the variable

[tepid phoenix]

Wtf I need that

Lemme find one

[bold grail]

Wooting

$15 Or sum

[prime orbit]

Yeah it’s wootings

[tepid phoenix]

Wait they sell that

[bold grail]

Friction fit pad

[tepid phoenix]

Dam I just stopped checking their shop after optimum techs keyboard came out

[bold grail]

Lmao

[tepid phoenix]

It goes between the plate and the PCB right

[bold grail]

I needa get all this shi

[prime orbit]

Ye

[bold grail]

Okay new build

Om

[tepid phoenix]

50 doller delivery fee...

Wait we can't swear right

[bold grail]

Tofu60, With Wooting PCB & JP Keycaps, With a Friciton Fit Pad,

Lubed, Tape Modded and whatever that fluffy stuff was

[prime orbit]

$50??

wtf

[tepid phoenix]

In aus ok

[prime orbit]

Ah

Ok

[tepid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/kangaroo-australia-gif-5569301945329905539

[bold grail]

Li bro My delivery fee for the Wooting 60He was also $50

So dumb lol

[tepid phoenix]

Ikr

[bold grail]

We need that "Free Shipping" Over $100 Type shi

[tepid phoenix]

True

I'ma build a secondary keyboard

[austere creek]

free shipping is a lie. either you pay shipping or the shipping cost is pre included in every product to some percentage

[prime orbit]

Tony da goat

[tepid phoenix]

Now I Wana just pay shipping

I thought it was free free

[bold grail]

Id rather just pay it with the product and not get hit with $50 straight to the face

[austere creek]

like there is only very few scenarios where you can actually get free shipping which the customer doesnt pay for and its usually when a company says "okay these few countries are really close and we can just cover the shipping for the customer cause we got a good deal with parcel carrier XYZ"

[tepid phoenix]

Dose wooting have that in America?

[austere creek]

not that im aware of

[tepid phoenix]

Dam equality

[bold grail]

Isnt wooting a European brand

[tepid phoenix]

Wait wut

[austere creek]

we are based in the netherlands yes

[tepid phoenix]

So u ship from Netherlands?

[austere creek]

no

we ship from the US for US orders. from Hong Kong for some Asian countries and Netherlands everywhere else

(and yes shipping to Canada from the EU is faster cause border customs from the US can be real assholes)

[tepid phoenix]

So oceana is Netherlands lol

[austere creek]

i believe so

since its just a quick plane usually

[tepid phoenix]

Tbh wooting got the fastest shipping I've seen

[bold grail]

How long did it take you to get ur keyboard?

[austere creek]

the usual journey for further places is NL to Frankfurt Airport and then to whatever country. if the country isnt all to popular to ship to it can take a few days of sitting at the airport where DHL/UPS/whoever waits to fill the cargo containers

[bold grail]

It took me like 2 n half weeks

[tepid phoenix]

It took me like 10 days

[austere creek]

also 50bucks sounds like taxes were included

[tepid phoenix]

If it's shipped from Netherlands to aus do we pay Netherlands tax or aus?

[austere creek]

you always pay your countries tax

[tepid phoenix]

🤔

[austere creek]

the only way youd pay both is you use a reshipping company

then youd pay the tax for where the reshipper is and then tax for when you import it

[tepid phoenix]

...

I paid extra for my whole life

[bold grail]

What if ur country does not have taz

Tax*

[austere creek]

then you pay none

[bold grail]

I paid non then wth

[austere creek]

although basically all countries have import duties and taxes

[bold grail]

How is it still $50

[austere creek]

at least i cant think of a country where theres no sales tax or import duties/taxes

[quasi hinge]

Have you see what Deepseek has done to the potential of Nvdia lol

[tepid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-i'm-done-creucat-creu-cat-gif-17333931845882585728

[bold grail]

No tax maybe Import duties

[austere creek]

hm i cant find a countries with both no sales tax and no import duties. only close to not having both

[bold grail]

We have import duties 5%

No tax though

@austere creek Whats ur keyboard?

[austere creek]

main use or what i have available for use

[bold grail]

Main

[austere creek]

wooting twohe

[bold grail]

Nice

[glossy pagoda]

Full size best size

[kind helm]

ignoring how much easier it is to move around a 60 board, i agree.

[quasi hinge]

Its not the size but how you use it

[quasi hinge]

Pass me some of that good stuff

[glossy pagoda]

Sure, but if tachyon mode lasts for longer than 4 hours please see a doctor

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/enter-dev-developer-commit-git-gif-21009539

[little glen]

added 3 layers of tape to my 80he

[boreal raptor]

hi guys, which one o-rings are the best for using with the wooting 80he, gateron jades (3.5mm travel distance)switches and standard double shout keycups? Thank you

[little glen]

only now realised i'll have to redo it when i finally decide to fix my stabs

[chilly mural]

Turn 80he into pseudo full size with an accompanying HE numpad! If it exist.

[little glen]

gateron jade pro or geon raw he switches are best (ignoring TTC switches cause they are super expensive)

as for what o rings are you talking about there is a few different kinds of o rings one could put on a keyboard so you might have to be more specific

[boreal raptor]

the question was about the o-rings to pair with gateron jades, thank you

[little glen]

i dont know much about o rings to put on switches and idk if thats a very popular thing that people do but good luck on your search

[kind helm]

why? just peel the whole piece down when you try to fix your stab

you dont have to peel each layer individually

[little glen]

you are making too much sense

i will not allow it

[kind helm]

sry josh not being dumb is out of character indeed

[little glen]

anyway shitty 60wpm sound test #3 this time with tape mod

[kind helm]

it was popular a thing people did a long time ago. it just makes your keys mushy and somewhat more quiet

somewhat...

[little glen]

yeah i remembered something about that ages ago

never understood it

i was like "isnt the point of mechanical switches to make the bottom out less mushy and shit? why are we going back to membrane feel now

[chilly mural]

I remember being curious about it long ago, never bothered to try it tho

[little glen]

anyway thoughts on the minor improvements i have made to my 80he

[chilly mural]

I do like membrane back then too tho, a good one at least

[kind helm]

i am ashame to say i tried it with cherry red

[little glen]

and dont comment on the stabs i dont want to talk about it

[kind helm]

it works somewhat to reduce sound, but it do be mushy

[little glen]

(i am lazy and waiting for my venom to get here so i can do both at the same time)

[kind helm]

in meeting right now otherwise i would listen

havent heard a gt80

[little glen]

i was in the middle of opening up my keyboard when i decided i needed music and then i tried to type on my keyboard

needless to say, didnt work out good