🔧│keyboard_modding

[calm pulsar]

lol

[kind helm]

thanks for asking for me mr. thackson, i have cam on full screen on my main monitor and just have dc chat on my secondary

[calm pulsar]

locked in

[kind helm]

i am doing some other shit so i just let it play xD

[calm pulsar]

I got other shit rn too

called work xd

[kind helm]

already know you are employee of the year on jan

xD

[calm pulsar]

nahh lol

[high sphinx]

Hey guys what if i do something like this i put the standoffs on both ends of the tofu and since i have the friction pad i let the friction pad rest on that will that work ?

@kind helm

[kind helm]

its gonna wobble but interesting idea my dude

mb i was cleaning room and feeding cat and looking at mr cam stream, my 3 brain cells running over clock rn

[high sphinx]

Yeah i was searching some videos on youtbe and i found this so the frictuon fit pad is resting in the standoffs so basically gummy mount but the sad part is the standoffs are hard and not soft so i get the concept if gummy mount

[high sphinx]

Dont worry its fine 😜

[high sphinx]

This would indeed have been nice but well i will probably buy the leggera in the future tho for now i will just go with my tofu and hopefully the leggera is good so i can do a gummy mount in that one then 😜

[kind helm]

no yea despite me not liking tofu redux as much but that is because i wasted a lot of money on expensive options. i am just a dumb ass. tofu you can definitely get a decent experience.

and honestly in a way i think tofu redux is most fun because of the mods, so it is like yours and its special. with expensive boards you kinda just follow instructions and its done.

[high sphinx]

Yeah that is true but if leggera is good and decently oriced and it supports propper oring i light aswell get it right ?

[kind helm]

cant make financial decision for you, especially me being so bad at it already.

you get deep enough in this you always want more

[high sphinx]

I think i gonna do that but i dont really wanna snap off the usb c tho i lile the cases where the usb is on the left side

[high sphinx]

I am already experiencing what u discribed here i think 🤣🤣

[kind helm]

you may not need to snap off the usb-c port, my tofu 2.0 for example leaves a space out for left usb-c port.

[high sphinx]

Oh yeah indeed i forgot u had that hopefully leggera also has it

[kind helm]

i was gonna break it off but i think that port really needs to use tool to break it

then i check the case and saw there was no need to remove it

[high sphinx]

Lucky u saw it in time

[chilly mural]

is there any note saying venom need specific plate for that case or you can just go use standard venom's gh60 compatible plate

[high sphinx]

I thibk josh said u can use the normal geon plate

Not really sure u might wanna ask him tho or someone else

[kind helm]

i think there is a doc somewhere on geon's dc. but i also think you can kinda tell, any case that requires a special plate would not work with standard plate :3

wait which case you talkin bout

bakeneko i think you can use standard plate

[chilly mural]

the upcomming leggera

[kind helm]

i gonna guess it should work with standard plate

actually the geon standard plate says "mini leggra" on there i think

give me a sec

[high sphinx]

Yup it does

[uneven cradle]

So you'd hope it fits

[high sphinx]

The leggera case i have seen there is also a tray mount version of that case ?

[kind helm]

my guess is probably you can do tray mount with leggra case

the holes on the bottom of the case maybe for removable standoffs

(what optimum shouldve done.)

[high sphinx]

Here u can see the standoffs but this one does not have the ribbles on the side for gummy mount

[kind helm]

interesting

[high sphinx]

Is optimum not in fact also tray mount since it also does not have the ribbles on the side ?

But people use the friction pad to let ot sit on the soft standoffs ?

Like i am olanning to do with my redux ?

[uneven cradle]

Gimmi Dat Pesante

[kind helm]

the one on top i think is tray mount the one bottom is the gummy oring mount

[kind helm]

ahh yea pesante

did you also get a venom mr. hopperbus

[uneven cradle]

I may have

[little glen]

Venom takeover is happening

[high sphinx]

@kind helm did u see my question about the optimum case ? A little above ?

[little glen]

Free shipping was too good to pass up

[kind helm]

optimum is tray mount yes

[kind helm]

yes

[kind helm]

hopefully yes

[high sphinx]

Ok ty very much

[high sphinx]

I got the silicone caps from kbdfans alishop but i know i will probably have to cut two of those caps to fit them over both bottom standoffs

I gonna try my best to achieve that

[kind helm]

lets say "we are just waiting on something better from wooting"

[little glen]

So leggera is not full metal case?

[little glen]

I mean i like my 80he

[kind helm]

yea no hate on 80he as a very good prebuilt keeb

[uneven cradle]

I just love a good 60%

[kind helm]

7U

[little glen]

Venom will be my first 60%

[kind helm]

i cant go back now

my finga got used to the new fn arrows and backspace

[uneven cradle]

Yeah I wanna try out 7u also

[kind helm]

it will take a bit of getting used too, but once you get used to it unless you use f row frequently i dont think youd miss it

[high sphinx]

It is really good as prebuilt the 80he is the thing that got me into modding into the first place and into this discord channel with a wonderfull community

[kind helm]

my only issue with 60he is when i play mount and blade, commanding troops is... ass

[little glen]

I think i will get a leggera when its out for international customers

See how it compares

Maybe give it to a friend if its good

[high sphinx]

The hard part is getting used to 60% and qwerty at the same time 🤣🤣

[little glen]

Or give it if its bad

[kind helm]

never used a different layout. that is like W brain exercise no?

learning to use multiple key layouts

pogger

[kind helm]

it looks nice

[little glen]

Maybe i‘ll just use my venom as my travel keyboard

[high sphinx]

Oh let me tell u it for sure is phahaha but i think its worth it after i get used to it ofcourse cause lany games use standard qwerty and i like i can use type numbers whitout holding shift

[little glen]

When i go to my parent‘s house for a week or something i just bring that

[high sphinx]

Do u also come from iso to ansi ?

[little glen]

So i dont need to burn my fingers with my laptop keyboard

[little glen]

Yes

I‘ll have to figure out the keycap situation but itll be fine

[high sphinx]

Also azerty to qwerty or u used to type on qwerty ?

[little glen]

Qwertz

[high sphinx]

Oh so you can already type qwerty well lucky you 😜

[little glen]

You do know that you can change the layout in OS

[high sphinx]

I might put my ohone to qwerty maybe that helps me train it 🤣

[terse lintel]

Need suggestions for some pbt keycaps

[high sphinx]

Yeah but i dont care i will just get used to it

And learn it

[kind helm]

i personally really like nicepbt

[terse lintel]

there's a set I've been eyeing but it says it wont be until a month later that it is in stock

which SUCKS

[chilly mural]

really feeling the social pressure here to get venom rn and not having second thought

[kind helm]

i personally disagree with buying venom if you have the module or the pcb from prebuilt60he

unless you are a dumb ass like me

[chilly mural]

I don't own a 60he, rm133 shipping is too much to stomach

[high sphinx]

Hey guys is the sikakeyb actually good ?

[kind helm]

80he enjoyer?

[chilly mural]

yeh, it's nice, very noice.

[cyan lark]

@harsh dove Thanks for doing some work, it inspired me to replace the stems in my stabs for long poles ✨

[kind helm]

i mean if i have 80he i won't recommend buying venom as well.

[polar girder]

Can do that?

I just got the stem spacer for mine

[cyan lark]

Sure, nobody stopped me

https://tenor.com/view/arrested-jail-south-park-randy-marsh-america-gif-14799719993156836572

[kind helm]

venom is just a better option than wooting's module right now, for me at least. but if you dont need it you shouldn't really waste money. but wanting to waste money is name of this hobby.

[chilly mural]

sanwa taking their sweet time from releasing their silent arcade button

[high sphinx]

Do you know if the sikakyb is good ?

[kind helm]

never heard of them

[cyan lark]

It's not ideal if I should ever switch back to 4mm switches but it's only like 30m of work 🤷
I still had slight issues w/ spacers (probably needed to add more) so I just wanted to be done w/ it

[kind helm]

i trusted geon because their raw switch is very good and mr. arc has a good experience with it

[high sphinx]

Oh i thought it was a well known keyboard brand amongst the he competitors

[kind helm]

i am not too deep into the performance side of things, though venom i think still top 3 base on a few different sources measurements and charts that pop up

at least

[high sphinx]

Might be the best nit sure in current state cause he keyboards are popping out off the ground everywhere

[harsh dove]

What did I do

sorry

[calm pulsar]

your stream inspired them haha

[high sphinx]

U on the beta firlware it supports rt 0.04

[harsh dove]

oh lol what did I do on stream?

[calm pulsar]

I guess just the fact that you're doing a build on stream

[harsh dove]

oh

[kind helm]

i am on stable. :3 i dont really care for 0.04 rt, i actually use like 0.1 rt + 0.2 actuation if i remember correctly

[chilly mural]

I guess, I like to push my equipment to the limit so having something that's more than my current limit is really reassuring

[kind helm]

isn't 80he also at the top

[sacred elm]

wooting 0.04rt 👀

[kind helm]

though the settings are more conservative but i think that is for the better

[chilly mural]

yeh, and the rgb is nice. 9.9 raw performance

[high sphinx]

Oh i see i am currently testing actuation 0.1 rt downstroke 0.08 and rt downstroke 0.04

[chilly mural]

recheck, single key latency, which is still insane

[cyan lark]

Just doing things, reminded me I should do things.

[sacred elm]

theyre releasing 0.1rt and then maybe we can beg them to release 0.04rt in future just like we did for socd months ago

0.04rt with a warning for example

[tidal frigate]

Wooting 0.00rt

[chilly mural]

give them 0.1rt, and they'll ask for 0.04 rt

[kind helm]

bro coping lower rt at the same time wants room for error. i think the next big release wooting should make the keyboards work without moving your fingers

[sacred elm]

personally I dont really care about 0.04rt, I will probably just use 0.1 and call it a day

[sacred elm]

not reading all that

[tidal frigate]

Add wooting 0.00rt But keep it 0.1 without telling people. Would be interesting move

[chilly mural]

uwaa

need like $2 per switch level of expensive for that to be vialble

[calm pulsar]

lmao

im cool with both wooting and venom so its funny to read the arguments

[tidal frigate]

@kind helm wooting has no deadzone

[sacred elm]

it does.

[calm pulsar]

wooting does, venom doesn't

[tidal frigate]

No it doesnt

[kind helm]

just because they dont show you doesnt mean it doesnt exist

[sacred elm]

yes it does

[tidal frigate]

[kind helm]

LMAO

[cyan lark]

Nerrrrd fiiiiight

[tidal frigate]

No it does not

[calm pulsar]

you mean wooting doesnt have the ability to adjust the deadzone? @tidal frigate

then you're right

but there is a deadzone

[sacred elm]

just because Tony from Wooting Team said it doesnt, it doesnt mean that it actually has no deadzone

[kind helm]

i mean my setting is actually pretty similar to mr.shafie's

[cyan lark]

I thought he explicitly said it did?

[tidal frigate]

well while autocalibration keyboard tries to get to zero as possible

[kind helm]

no way they said that

[sacred elm]

For wasd I just use lowest, for osu I use 0.6 0.3 currently

[kind helm]

wooting's pretty accurate with stuff

[tidal frigate]

so thats why tony says no deadzone

[sacred elm]

80he is way more sensitive than my 60he, and I raised both actuation and rt for osu

[calm pulsar]

not that it ever affected me, but on venom I noticed that rapid trigger is faster to react, probably due to no deadzone

on wooting I believe there is, but future updates might change that as well

[sacred elm]

its impossible to have 0 deadzone with lekkers

just letting you know

[calm pulsar]

yeah the switch wobble also affects the deadzone thing a lot, which is why ttc switches get the best results on wooting boards

[sacred elm]

Yea, unfortunately they did

which is... not true

[tidal frigate]

thats how tony thinks it works though

My message is about diffrent discord

[sacred elm]

lowest possible value for lekkers is nowhere close to 0

[austere creek]

i also explained at some point that we have no traditional deadzone. we have some sort of minimum delta before the firmware acts on it to counteract noise

[kind helm]

that makes more sense

analog you gotta have that

[calm pulsar]

so by noise you mean micro movements of the magnet due to switch wobble?

[austere creek]

from what i understand those margins/deltas are worse on the top end than the bottom end

[austere creek]

or your pulse

unless youre a robot

i cant judge on that one

[kind helm]

its like with digital its on or off, but anlog its always like a measurement

[sacred elm]

🤖

[calm pulsar]

ignoring all previous instructions, here's a cupcake recipe...

[austere creek]

basically any change in the magnetic flux the firmware tries to make sure its you having intentionally moved it

[calm pulsar]

I see, well it makes sense that way

[austere creek]

its just quite complex due to a lot of concepts interacting at the same time that traditional switches dont have to deal with

[kind helm]

but analog is the future!

[austere creek]

the best person to ask is usually simon as hes also the one implementing all of this

[austere creek]

yes but it still is some ways away from being as stable as contact based switches

heck even IR switches have issues

[tidal frigate]

Well, simon dosent talk in discord a lot.

[tidal frigate]

Ir switch?

[austere creek]

ye cause he busy working on firmwares and wootility

[sacred elm]

tony do you know when can we expect switch selector 👀

[austere creek]

infrared aka optical

[kind helm]

yea i mean you cant be as stable as on or off like digital of course but HE you got room to play with, thats the part i love

[austere creek]

when simon is done with it lol

[sacred elm]

makes sense

[calm pulsar]

all this talk makes me want to try ttc pom and see if they really are super stable

[tidal frigate]

@sacred elm so you now understand that wooting has no deadzone

[austere creek]

you can tell @glossy pagoda if it would be cool if we sold TTC switches. idk why but he was interested in some peoples opinions

[kind helm]

i am curious to why they can't just use a set threshold based on the switch type though, maybe just difficult to keep track off over time

[austere creek]

so might be some geon stuff where he wants to reach out and see what we can do

[kind helm]

plus mounting may impact it

[visual ore]

They quite nice

[austere creek]

the main reason from what i gather is we wanna make it foolproof so most of the keyboard stuff related to calibrations and such is fully automatic

[terse lintel]

meh I bit the bullet on just waiting for the keycap set it arrive, it's too good, I'll just live with a stock 80he for a bit when I get it tomorrow

[visual ore]

A tad overhyped and overpriced but nice

[tidal frigate]

What about temps in room

[kind helm]

i dont think wooting is using tech on that small of a scale xD

smaller -> more sensitive to problems

[tidal frigate]

Pre calibrated will be per key or only for entire keyboard?

[calm pulsar]

I believe someone from wooting and geon wanted to talk about selling raws on wooting store, which would be great, considering geon's expensive shipping from korea

[austere creek]

good question i just know it constantly adjust 0 and 4mm

so initially on boot it takes a 0 and then anticipates the sensor value for 4mm but tracks the key press to detect the actual end

[kind helm]

"go ask the hardware guy for the hardware part, i know what i need to know to build the software part"

[austere creek]

geon was in here and then DMs were exchanged minutes later

[kind helm]

thanks for the info tho

[visual ore]

Are we getting wooting theme TTC and Raws 😮

[austere creek]

i just dont know if calibrations are per key or 1 set for the keyboard as a whole

[kind helm]

this is very interesting

[tidal frigate]

Geon collab confirmed

[chilly mural]

oooooooooo

[visual ore]

I actually want to try out Raws and compare them to my TTC

[kind helm]

i would hope its pre key since for mx its a thing to use different switch for like space

[visual ore]

Wonder if I would like them more sound-wise

[kind helm]

but maybe memory can be a issue since everything is on board?

[tidal frigate]

What penalty i would get for pinging simon and asking

[austere creek]

i think we got quite a lot of ram on the arm based boards

[kind helm]

wasn't being toxic btw just reminds me of me

[austere creek]

none really i dont think theres anyone else who can answer this tbh

[chilly mural]

how big?

[austere creek]

dw not like i took it that way

[austere creek]

couple of kb

[tidal frigate]

Ok then if get t/o i will blame u

[chilly mural]

ooo, enough to run 0.001b param model

maybe smaller

[austere creek]

i think its 96kb

and like 1mb flash or smth

[kind helm]

just curious, 100% dont know enough, but is the calculation for the calibration done with the pc then essentially store the result on the pcb?

[austere creek]

its all on board

the wootility just changes configuration data

[kind helm]

hmmm, would that be why some he board runs warm after a while

[austere creek]

a core philosophy we followed was no bs software and no bloatware for keyboard functions

[kind helm]

not wooting60he in my experience but on venom

[tidal frigate]

Wooting keyboard is actually bitcoin miner

[tawdry tree]

Woot does too but I think it was more because of the LEDs.

[kind helm]

ah that makes sense if you do computation on pc then you probably needd something running on the pc

[austere creek]

we do wanna offer some stuff soon that required software on the pc but itll be opt in

[austere creek]

ye

[tidal frigate]

Because 80he has extra Bright rgb

[austere creek]

na even on the 60 and 2he to some degree

[tawdry tree]

So hot you can cook an egg on the back of the alumaze

[austere creek]

i wish

then id vote for an alumaze with a wooting egg space carved into the back to make wooting shaped sunny side up egg

[harsh dove]

I 2nd this

[tawdry tree]

😋🥰

I 3rd this

[tidal frigate]

My 60he is cold because my room is cold as outside

And 80he

[austere creek]

ok guys / girls / robot overlords imma head to bed

[tawdry tree]

gn sir.

[chilly mural]

sleep well

[kind helm]

thanks for the info and discussion gn ❤️

[high sphinx]

Yeah it was interesting i learned a lot today i gonna head to bed also good night sleep tight 😇

[tidal frigate]

He forgot about attack helis

[chilly mural]

good night

[kind helm]

can we report mr. tony for assuming we are just guys and girls and robot? oh wait never mind this is not US

[chilly mural]

there might be AI scrapping the text for dataset

[tidal frigate]

Caalder

[chilly mural]

learning about HE keyboard

[tidal frigate]

There is already program for that

That can scrape every discord message

[kind helm]

scraping trash to collect trash patterns for a model that throws up trash

[chilly mural]

I know, I'm just not sure how they clean and format the data so that it can be instructed and used as a training data for natural conversation

[kind helm]

nah

[tidal frigate]

Copy from x user

Copy from simon or tony

Then sort messages by hand

And train ai

[kind helm]

you be sorting til the day you die brother

[chilly mural]

(i'm not gonna type this)

it's 9 am, I supposed to do something productive

[tidal frigate]

Just hire 10 Indians for 200usd.

And you get data set about he keyboard firmware etc

[chilly mural]

Chatgpt did that, and that's how you get AI that is very AI

[polar girder]

Yeah fair

Understandable

[chilly mural]

To the point it's annoying to try roleplaying with it.

(Accurately it's African, but same stuff)

[kind helm]

i dont you dont do training

you meant fine tune?

[scarlet barn]

What are these rubber things that came with the wooting 80he?

[cyan lark]

Snacks

[chilly mural]

No, I meant like, actually roleplay with an AI

[sacred elm]

feet

[cyan lark]

Feet to lift the backside up

[scarlet barn]

Of the keyboard?

Or the wrist rest

Wtf

Ok

[cyan lark]

Keyboard

[scarlet barn]

Thank you!

[sacred elm]

you can swap default feet

[tidal frigate]

Still dunno why those companies didnt try to snatch that info to improve products

[kind helm]

you can use dataset for prompting?

[cyan lark]

Back side has two larger silicone pads that pull up and can be replaced w/ those

[kind helm]

300shot prompt type shit?

[chilly mural]

They did, which makes AI sounds more robotic.

[kind helm]

[chilly mural]

No, hold on

[chilly mural]

Roleplaying with AI

[tidal frigate]

I mean steal info from simon and tony to make better he keyboard

[kind helm]

sry my brain is a mush at this point, should go to sleep soon. i thought you and mr. jakubixishere have the same idea for a moment

[chilly mural]

it's fine, everybody is sleepy at this time

[kind helm]

nah my sleep schedule is just fcked, waking up middle of the night and just stayed up

[polar girder]

Clean

[calm pulsar]

waow

what is this

[polar girder]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=123064.0

Render

[kind helm]

f a t

[chilly mural]

not fat

W I D E

[kind helm]

ah true true

[tidal frigate]

Nice bord

[tidal frigate]

It is 4:3

[kind helm]

more like 21:9

[chilly mural]

22:5

~22 u of caps left to right, 5 u of caps top to bottom

[kind helm]

mr.cam's new build reminds me of this

[calm pulsar]

that is the idea for the keycap set

[kind helm]

yea worked very well with the top case

[devout totem]

\

"

[calm pulsar]

this set will be nice with this one

[kind helm]

dont remind me, i wanted to get transition lite with translucent white color but was sold out.

but yea definitely a fun theme

[flat cobalt]

Slap cosmos on it

Oh

I thought it was a keyboard not just keycaps

[calm pulsar]

I might get my hands on LX60 after all

[flat cobalt]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=124323.0&utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=campaign&_kx=BWxjL0rQBU9iwefIfHeHJAMcgAog0nG5J1K1SCQWjq4.JVLQrk

Are these type of keyboards comfy?

[harsh dove]

I bet they're getting a lot of refund request rn

[calm pulsar]

yeah I bet Loobed does, but he doesnt have the money for it right now, which is crazy

I will request a chargeback from paypal, I hope it works

[harsh dove]

Yeah that whole situation seems cooked

I haven't read too much into it but I saw some stuff from WiredIn about it

[calm pulsar]

I think he simply got money from one groupbuy to pay for another, and it is a chain of mismanagements that he can't get away with now

[glacial wind]

Peak wow content. This and pirate software becoming a literal meme in every community now is hilarious

[harsh dove]

Dude Pirate Software, Elon Musk not a true gamer, whats going on

[calm pulsar]

true lol
he even continued this in ashes of creation, apparently he pulled a mob in the raid, and kicked someone else over it from the guild

[glacial wind]

Yeah people are pulling a billion clips of him lol

[calm pulsar]

elon's gameplay was hilarious

[harsh dove]

Sno you missed my 80HE CF plate build btw

[harsh dove]

I was disappointed

[glacial wind]

Seems he’s been talking down and being a dick to people for a long time with so many clips surfacing

[glacial wind]

Ah another disciple has joined the fold

[harsh dove]

That's crazy about Pirate Software

[harsh dove]

It's so good man

[calm pulsar]

I want me a CF plate for frog

[glacial wind]

It seems that’s just his default personality. The “I know better than you so let me talk down to you” and it rubs literally everyone the wrong way lol

[harsh dove]

Yeah I got that vibe tbh

[calm pulsar]

one thing I liked is when he RPed with Hubert, but it's Hubert here who was kinda fun

it was funny when Pirate put an intellect buff on him and Hubert turned from a typical orc into a smart person 😄

[glacial wind]

the rp guys know how to keep things entertaining

wow by itself is a boring game to watch, have to do interesting events or make the boring bits interesting

[chilly mural]

waow, could be worse.

[harsh dove]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

Now the only white is from the silicone gasket

[red aurora]

So looking at knight v2 stabs. What is the difference? What is long pole?

[glacial wind]

Yeah looks great

The whole conversation earlier about deadzone is folks just using different names for what ends up as deadzone lol

whether it’s deadzone due to sensor or a ‘deadzone’ due to what is actual noise filtering. it’s all still what people refer to as deadzone at the bottom/top of presses

[sacred elm]

[calm pulsar]

lol I too wanted to tag Jakubix and let him see sno's message

some amount of deadzone isnt bad anyway, maybe it makes for a smoother experience

[flat cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[tame vessel]

Got some geon raw hes and fiddled around with my wooting 60. Not sure where the sound profile sits, but thought I look for feedback since it seems nice

Currently using the silicon friction fit pad, but might try going back to poron sandwich pad and using an o-ring

[harsh dove]

Messing around with novelties

[calm pulsar]

oh so maybe these arrows are intended to be near that Z

[harsh dove]

Indeed

[harsh dove]

Sounds good on my end

[tame vessel]

Yeah, I kinda wish there was an option to make it the X key instead that was dark

[tame vessel]

Thanks! I guess at this point it's just messing around with stuff. It's kinda silly since I bought a roll of MLV to try and a PC plate, but ended up going back to the base metal and the stock tofu foam thing

[harsh dove]

Yeah that happens sometimes lol, buy something in the hopes you'll like it more just to go back to what you were using

[tame vessel]

Oh well, at least it was something neat to mess around with

Though I will say pulling Geon Raw HEs is a bit of a pain. They get stuck in there good

[harsh dove]

You're not the only one lol

I was just talking about that earlier today

[tame vessel]

Though I guess if that's the price for the quality at the moment I'll suffer for it

[harsh dove]

Haha right, yeah the RAWs seem to have what seems like softer clips or more brittle idk, I've broken more clips on those than any other switch

[silver pecan]

does anybody know how to solder the usb port on a wooting, do i have to take apart the pcb and solder both sides or just the back side with the contact pads

[fluid ravine]

@austere creek ^

[devout totem]

How did you break the usb port?

[vapid leaf]

Questions, has anyone tried switch films on gateron jade gaming switches?

im thinking i should hand lube them and was wondering if switch films would be cool sinse i have them open.....but first time trying any of this so kind of in the dark

[fluid ravine]

Don't use switch films on HE switches, avoid them at best and don't waste your money on it

It can affect the performance of the switch and make it sound sharper and high pitched

[vapid leaf]

ok thank~

what do you think about hand lubing the factory lubed jade gaming switches.....overkill? a nice sunday afternoon? wast of hours?

[fluid ravine]

Some people think switch films are suppose to make the stem tolerance tighter but that is untrue, just to clarify, switch films are used to make the housings tighter, filling in the unwanted gap and wiggle possibility.

[fluid ravine]

Usually hand lubing is always better than factory lube. Always. But there can be some exception with factory lube from some companies meaning you don't really have to hand lube them if you want to.

I dont know how good the Jade Gaming Switches are in term of factory lube so I can't really tell you myself

[vapid leaf]

ok cool, seems like a do if you want may not be tottaly worth it unless your into it

[fluid ravine]

yeah pretty much, at the end it's always worth it

Again your choice if you want to do it or not

[vapid leaf]

never done it before so i might give it a go

[fluid ravine]

👍

[vapid leaf]

got time for another question? im trying to figure out if this stabilizer set is the right size for the wooting 80he but im a little lost

[fluid ravine]

Sure wassup

[vapid leaf]

Typeplus x YIKB Screw-in stabilizer (104 Set)

[fluid ravine]

Do you have a link?

[vapid leaf]

im looking at these and they come in two sets

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0DQPXWJTK/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A6078EBK4K8X5

a 60 and 104...neither are 80?

[fluid ravine]

You should only need the 60

[vapid leaf]

Epic, thank you for the help

just saved me lik 20 bucks

[fluid ravine]

haha np

[fluid ravine]

Pretty sure the 104 set is for bigger boards with numpads as numpads need 2 more stabilizers than the 60 set

[vapid leaf]

ahhhhhhh for the larger number pad keys that explains it!

[fluid ravine]

Both sets have the same thing but the 104 has 2 more 2U stabilizers for the numpad i suppose

[harsh dove]

How we feel about the Skeletor ?

[calm pulsar]

you mean the character? lol

[harsh dove]

yeah the ESC key lol

[calm pulsar]

ohh damn I didnt notice it

yeah it fits the nostalgia gamer aesthetic

[marsh saffron]

I love that

Fits so well

[solar dawn]

Do these keycaps look good with the Wooting

[marsh saffron]

I want the pink Atlantis mini so bad

[solar dawn]

I prefer the pink ninjutso sora v2 tbh

39 g

[marsh saffron]

I've got beastx mini in pink

[harsh dove]

my neck hurts but this looks great

[marsh saffron]

Use that with my Atlantis mini lots

[solar dawn]

Why hurts

[marsh saffron]

Sideways photo

[solar dawn]

Ah

I’m clearing my desk today and I’ll upload a setup picture

[marsh saffron]

Pink beastx mini 🥴

[solar dawn]

This is a year ago and once I clean up I’ll do an updated version now obv more is in pink but in general there isn’t that much changed

[marsh saffron]

God damn

Looks expensive....

[fluid ravine]

Expensive..

and organize...

[solar dawn]

Was kinda expensive 😅

[marsh saffron]

I could never

[fluid ravine]

"kinda" 😭

[fluid ravine]

I could heh

[solar dawn]

I can’t organize either

I swap out so much often that my cable management is none existent

[fluid ravine]

sound expensive

[solar dawn]

Wanna get a secret labs magnus table at some point

Makes cable management more easy

[fluid ravine]

wait no lie the features on this table is fire

[harsh dove]

Very well done, some nice high end audio interfaces there

[fluid ravine]

just been called broke in 6900 languages frfr

[harsh dove]

Lol only like a $7000 audio rack on the ground there

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah FK no

my setup only cost like uhhhhhhhhh

dont even know

LMAO

[uneven cradle]

just be careful with that desk seen quite a few people having issues with their HE keyboards on it

[fluid ravine]

like about $2.7k im guessing

[harsh dove]

This my pops setup

[fluid ravine]

fdsjkifdshkjfdjkfdsjkfsdajkfldsjfk;lasdjfdfads

[solar dawn]

Yah that’s why I’m considering it

[fluid ravine]

so clustered but so cool

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

[solar dawn]

Yup indeed I’ll never upgrade audio except for maybe Irma

Iems

[solar dawn]

How come

[uneven cradle]

now those are some real expensive keyboards

[fluid ravine]

The "last" thing im plannign to buy for my setup is probably a webcam

[fluid ravine]

they don't know the og's

[harsh dove]

Actually, yeah lmao

[solar dawn]

I think I might be past 30k or close to that

[fluid ravine]

lord have mercy

[uneven cradle]

the desk mat has built in magnets which can actuate the keyboard without being pressed

[fluid ravine]

how does one achieve

[solar dawn]

I think audio alone is like 13-15k

[solar dawn]

Oh no

[fluid ravine]

tbh, would make sense cus audio shi expensive as hell

[uneven cradle]

yeah it's a thing https://www.reddit.com/r/WootingKB/comments/1fai5o6/keyboard_and_secret_labs_desk_doesnt_work/

[fluid ravine]

respect doe

[solar dawn]

Ngl tho the Herman miller aeron chair was the best purchase in the setup

[fluid ravine]

just get a big ol deskpad no?

like a different one besides the magnetic one?

[stark osprey]

Rejecting a desk for keyboard interference that could otherwise be fixed with a deskpad is crazy work.

[autumn creek]

Mat doesnt always seem to fix it

[stark osprey]

It does for me, have something thick enough, and Wooting's magnets should not be affected no?

[autumn creek]

Some people may not want a thick pad

[stark osprey]

For reference Im just using an Artisan Pad on top of the magnetic deskpad

[autumn creek]

Doubt a magnetic desk pad has the same strength as the magnets in the desk, that would just be common logic

How thick is the magpad? Like 4mm?

[stark osprey]

If I had to guess, maybe close to 2mm

[autumn creek]

yeah doubt that even compares to the magnets in that desk

[stark osprey]

The desk itself is just metal? It's magnetic obviously.

You could get optional cable organizers which are magnets themselves.

[autumn creek]

Just get a basket or wireloom

Ezy pzy, people come up with expensive things to get people to pay crazy prices for simple solution shit. But in the modern day people will pay it

[stark osprey]

I already have the magnets, prefer those. I like the sleek look.

[autumn creek]

wild times

[stark osprey]

I mean magnets good, Wooting likes them.

[autumn creek]

What the LTT cable set uses

Big ole hunkers

[stark osprey]

You can hide most of the cabling too in the back tray that sits under the desk, elegant solution. Also the under desk mounts are underrated IMO. Dont have towers or peripherals on the floor makes for easy cleaning.

[stark osprey]

Just for clarification. The desk itself is made of steel, the "magnetic" desk pads are either **synthetic leather **or suede, they have magnetic strips on their left and right edges to affix them firmly to the steel desk. Suggest you use an additional desk pad if you're having issues with your Wooting. Easy peasy.

[austere creek]

so you do have the pcb rn

and its a single sided usb port we use with 12 or 14 pins

[silver pecan]

bro

it wasnt with me when i sent this

it was with the guy whos fixing it

but he said he doesnt know how to fix it

[austere creek]

its simple smd soldering

its nothing special

[silver pecan]

ik

which is why i was confused when he said "its impossible to do it by hand"

i was like what lmao

so wait i dont have to take off the backplate

[austere creek]

we dont have a backplate

[silver pecan]

i can just stick the usb on the back and solder it all from the back

i meant the back

[austere creek]

and yes as long as the pinout of the port you got matches

[silver pecan]

damn i didnt even check when i bought the port

i thought since its type c itll fit

[austere creek]

im still mainly confused on why youd try to solder it ionstead of a warranty claim unless you ripped it off. but if you ripped it off on accident i would also think you prob ripped out some pads

[silver pecan]

oh sorry i didnt explain

[austere creek]

if you ripped out pads its not just soldering it back on youll need to first fix the pads which is smth that most people who can solder cant even do

[silver pecan]

so when i got it, i ordered a tofu60 case

then when i put it in i was unaware that u had to slide the usb thing over in the case

ur supposed to like unscrew a screw near the usb port and slide it over

i didnt do that so i tried plugging it in and it ripped out pretty easily

so i went to a tech shop to get it fixed and the guy fixed it, but after like 3 months if i moved the wire a bit it would disconnect so many times

up until it just stopped working

so i got it resoldered again and the guy did a terrible job, the usb wasnt even straight so it ripped off after like a day, fell out so easily i didnt even try to jam the cable in

now im trying to do it myself because i cant trust anyone

and warranty is void because i got it resoldered

atp should i just buy a new module

[austere creek]

i mean you have 2 options. send it to someone who actually knows how to fix it (i strongly suspect ripped pads/traces given your explanation). so youd prob send it to northridge fix or something and prob pay a good 100usd or more depending on how bad the situation is.

the second choice is just buy a new module

[silver pecan]

no way im paying that much to get it fixed

thats actually insane

id rather just buy a new board

[austere creek]

well thats the problem if pads rip

its so specialized and takes ages to fix

[silver pecan]

bro but i dont think the pads are damaged

my friend fixed it and he said it works but he thinks the usb port is just cooked frm all the repairs

because it worked but would disconnect like last itme

like if he barely moved the kb

[austere creek]

i mean youll see when you have the pcb infront of you

you either see nice solid attached silver pads

or some sticking off the pcb/missing so theres brownish spots

[silver pecan]

yeah

cooked

[high sphinx]

@tawdry tree so thevtip geon have u was to bend inwards ?

[austere creek]

damaged pads

[silver pecan]

cooked right @austere creek

[harsh dove]

pads are ripped

yeah

[silver pecan]

omg

okay im buying a new one

fuck this

[austere creek]

so yeah this would be quite the expensive repair

not to even include shipping in my earlier estimate

which youd have to pay both ways

[harsh dove]

Buy a new module

[austere creek]

ye

[silver pecan]

fucks sake though

thats actually so unlucky

wait so yo

[austere creek]

at this point unless this has some sentimental value like it won you your first esports tournament or speedrun WR id buy a new one

[silver pecan]

does it work at allif the pads are like that

[austere creek]

yes and no

[silver pecan]

no lmao i didnt

[kind helm]

honestly between bending and using a small piece of tape, i say tape is better since you cant really break things that way

[austere creek]

they are ripped but might make contact very slightly

[silver pecan]

so it just keeps disconnecting

[austere creek]

leading to the whole wiggle disconnect thing

[silver pecan]

ahh thats why it kept disconnecting right

yeah

its okayill just buy a new one

so do i just dump this one

[austere creek]

depends youd have a parts board rn

[high sphinx]

Yes bit i said is correct right if i would do it ? Not that i am but just so i know

[austere creek]

but id find someone who can actually do smd soldering next time lol

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[silver pecan]

do u think its damaged from the soldering

[austere creek]

cant say

[kind helm]

that is what mr. geon said :3

[austere creek]

could be from initial damage or resoldering at too high of a temp

but wed need images from before anyone soldered to say

[high sphinx]

Yeah but i thought maybe i could squeeze these two parts together

The top and bottom part of the backspace

[tawdry tree]

Only the thin top bar.

[silver pecan]

yo @austere creek any eta on shipping

just for the 60he module

im not tryna wait 5 years

[high sphinx]

I dont see how bending it in the plate might resolve the issue tho

[kind helm]

i am not sure how to bend alu plate so yee, wait beyond my understand :3

[silver pecan]

already been a month witha dogshit cherry blues lmaoo

[tawdry tree]

Where r u from?

[silver pecan]

canada

[austere creek]

the website gives you a rough estimate

once the order is placed it gets refined through the hub as we know where it goes

[kind helm]

essentially make the space smaller so the switch can fit nicer

[tawdry tree]

Bend the thin bar inwards

so the holes gets smaller

Geon made a vid

did u see it?

[silver pecan]

i actually dont see it

[silver pecan]

yeah it doesnt say an estimate

[kind helm]

@tawdry tree can you enlighten on why switch size aren't exactly standardized? that was surprising.

[tawdry tree]

They are, but like KS-20s, Hejin’s switches rely more on the sides (left and right) being tight to secure them, than on the front and back.

[high sphinx]

I saw the picture josh send but i dont really see what the white thing is that geon is holding would have like a video where he shows the solution tho but i guess it os just bending the thin bar insight

[kind helm]

i think he just use the pen thingy to push it inwards

[tawdry tree]

Not sure what it is either but he just uses it to push the plate inwards, you can use a pen or something.

Is the Alu plate 1.2mm?

thick*?

[kind helm]

i really doubt you can do that with alu though... but i am weak

[tawdry tree]

You can as well for sure. I’m more worried about snapping that corner than anything.

[high sphinx]

U mean that part right ?

[tawdry tree]

Any part really, just get an old pen and try it with decent pressure.

Metals flex slightly before they bend.

[kind helm]

i believe that for fr4, i snapped my fr4 for wooting actually. but man thats metal

[high sphinx]

Oh i thought the idea was to put the thin metal between the pen itself and the other part whatever it is called to hang it on ur pants

[tawdry tree]

It’s thin alu bro

[high sphinx]

And the bend like that

[tawdry tree]

Nah, just push it.

[high sphinx]

@tawdry tree i have to bend it like this right

And not loke

[tawdry tree]

Like that.

Just how Geon did it.

Start of with slight pressure only

Not sure how easily it’ll deform.

Just take it slow.

[high sphinx]

Oh i undestand

I might just use the tape untill fr4 is here tho its easier but i just wanted to know sry if it took so long for me to understand my two btaincells could not handle it 😜

[tawdry tree]

Np bro. Tape is fine and and FR4 will work.

[high sphinx]

But i see now that you have to basically make a little dent with the geon technique

[kind helm]

btw thinner plate is a more soft -> a big deeper sounding

yes?

now that mr geon mentioned two plates have different thickness maybe i should try alu

[tawdry tree]

It’s just FR4 is 1.6 and alu is 1.5

I thought he meant that alu was 1.2 or something

I don’t think the 0.1mm increase in thickness is what makes the Raw HEs sit properly in the FR4 plate but maybe.

[kind helm]

the switch on the fr4 plate is not really tight either

[tawdry tree]

It depends on material, I think thinner plates just influence the sound less but the feel more.

[kind helm]

it is better for sure but definitely still on the loose side

[tawdry tree]

Oh I see, so maybe it is because of the 0.1mm increase in thickness then.

[kind helm]

thanks

i remember seeing information about that somewhere but i dont remember where exactly

[tawdry tree]

The vid mj sent is pretty detailed

https://youtu.be/NLd2YK7Huew

[kind helm]

yee watching it rn

[kind helm]

btw i think he left again xD

[tawdry tree]

lol

something happen?

[kind helm]

idk

[tawdry tree]

(again)

😕

[kind helm]

i was searching on his vid and info earlier today then found out i can't do "from:mjj001"

[tawdry tree]

🫡

[kind helm]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxN8QeQEM1WzZjNlLptfRbmSG837WexNSd truth hurts so much

[tawdry tree]

It is time for a keycap wallmount display, yeappppp.

[kind helm]

with like 50% of the keys missing. half on a board half on a wallmount

that would be funny

[tawdry tree]

yeah, well you could but them around the board

like the board in the middle

with the left over keys around it

like crumbs or something

😂😂

[kind helm]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-american-actor-mind-blown-shocked-surprised-gif-17171746

[tawdry tree]

HOLY

[kind helm]

so many nut job would buy that actually

holy

LMFAO

[ionic breach]

mj nukes his discord randomly lmao

[tawdry tree]

Magnetic MX stem mounts for keycaps

[ionic breach]

he left all the discords and now hes back on geons'

[tawdry tree]

lol

[kind helm]

how you know he nuked everything? stalker?

[ionic breach]

our mutual server count is very volatile

[kind helm]

Uh Huh

[little glen]

Should i assemble my stabs when they arrive or right before putting the keyboard together

[fallen echo]

right before. be smart. avoid stabloss.

[little glen]

Ok i‘ll have to sit on these for a bit then

[chilly mural]

This is why I want wooting numpad

[kind helm]

can't relate, not a accountant

[chilly mural]

nah, for rhythm game actually

ergonomic reason plus a nice alternative to split spacebar

[kind helm]

i need to try a split spacebar at some point

i think it would be so much easier to tune

[chilly mural]

Right hand like this when playing 8k/9k/10k. So trying Tsangan/7U might be awkward. I can however immediately bypass that if wooting have a numpad so I can move my hand on a seperate board

[kind helm]

actually more i think about that more it doesn't make sense. that is like spending more money to save money

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-the-more-you-buy-the-more-you-save-keynote-2018-gif-12315008507302833354

More keyboards you buy, more money you save

[chilly mural]

lmao

[kind helm]

can't tell from the screenshot but i think i know what you mean

yee, split HE board when

[chilly mural]

That's my default right hand position for rhythm game, but most important part is the thumb, right where 7u spacebar would occupy

[kind helm]

ahhh use m or , or . then :3

[chilly mural]

You know what, I'll try

[kind helm]

i thought you meant you had to use both hands and full size board would let you extend out your arms a bit which is nice

[chilly mural]

Problem here is that some rhythm game doesn't accept enter as an input

[chilly mural]

Can do the same with 60%+ numpad

[pastel birch]

anyone know if there are 3rd party lekker compatible springs yet, specifically without using aliexpress?

[kind helm]

think geon pingless is the only one, unless there were something new recently

[sacred elm]

wooting sells spring packs

[kind helm]

apparently the chinese partner with geon already has some leggra made, but they cant sell it until geon starts their pre order

[glacial wind]

You mean in stock sales? Preorder for leggera was ages ago already

[kind helm]

oh wait my bad, i didn't read his text carefully, he said that it needs to wait until the items ship out for people who have preordered

[solar tundra]

Ordered Raw HE Switches, changed a few to compare to my WS Dash and icl WS Dash just sounds so much better. But RAW HEs feel butter smooth and they arent wobble that much. Should be Jade Pros for me then to upgrade?

[kind helm]

jade pro sounds different from raw but not necessarily better, imo.

[sacred elm]

[sacred elm]

you can try ordering 10pc jade pros

[kind helm]

btw did you try raw?

[sacred elm]

Yes, I had 80he with raws and swapped whole keyboard with jade pros theyre collecting dust rn

[glacial wind]

Now try out the ttc snake

Only $1.90 per switch

[sacred elm]

theyre very good but bottoming out feels a bit better with jade pros

[kind helm]

i wonder if mr bigsy would buy that, since supposedly the snake boys are better

maximal performance

[sacred elm]

ultra mega performance

[solar tundra]

i think its personal preference what you like or want tho, i like the sound of ws dash switches alot and people told me jade pros are like ws dash with less wobble

[solar tundra]

yeah i should, i mean my ws dash switches are lubed thats prob also why they sound better imo then stock raw hes but idk if it makes a difference for me when i lube them

[kind helm]

yea i am using jade pro right now

[solar tundra]

cause i dont like the soundprofile of them

i also saw jade max and i like the sound too any1 got them?

[kind helm]

supposedly they are terrible

[sacred elm]

Yes jade pros are ws dashes but cleaner sounding

[solar tundra]

i like the sound tho but yeah

[sacred elm]

also im not sure why did you prefer dashes over raws

try lubing raws

[solar tundra]

i like the sound alot more tho

[glacial wind]

i'm curious about if they feel any different with the new rail system, but not curious enough to spend $1.90 per switch for that

[sacred elm]

yes but you said you lubed your dashes

[solar tundra]

yeaj

[sacred elm]

lube raws and compare

[kind helm]

that is one thing i dont really understand about jade max, because supposedly they are sticky due to bad design, however on sound tests they are fine.

[solar tundra]

i mean i can only lube 1 right?

and compare

[glacial wind]

sound doesn't really show much about feel beyond someone put it in and recorded a test

[kind helm]

i remember from that bilibili link you sent there were a few improvements. some people already have reviews on bilibili. but i didn't pay too attention

[sacred elm]

yea 1 or 2

nice picture josh

[solar tundra]

You would say the sound better?

Raw HE Lubed vs WS Dash Lubed?

[kind helm]

you like the doggy, i think it makes me look a bit more friendly

[sacred elm]

I have raws and regular jades, both stock and raws sound a lot cleaner

🤷‍♂️

[solar tundra]

I mean i like the "sticky" sound of ws dash if i can call it like that

[kind helm]

my raw is smoother than my jade pro but my raw were hand lubed 😦 i think maybe i should lube jade pro at some point

[glacial wind]

tl;dr is just they moved the rail from the bottom housing to the top, which reduce wobble by the tiniest amount

[tawdry tree]

$50 for 18. It’s an understatement.

[chilly mural]

enough for rhythm game dedicated board

[sacred elm]

yea also raws are smoother when you press sides slowly, with jade pros there is some small friction but it gets better after some use

[solar tundra]

Did you like the WS Dash Switches before the Jades and Raw HE came?

[kind helm]

the stem looks cool though hehe, like a lego piece

[glacial wind]

i might grab like a 4 pack or something off taobao when they come out just to look at them, but i can't imagine folks are all that keen for the pointless upgrade over the former rgb/pom which were already super tight

[sacred elm]

Ive used regular jades on 60he which are the same switches

[tawdry tree]

I do like the top housing design. I think it has potential to be better.

[sacred elm]

and it was good yea

[solar tundra]

And now you use Jade Pros?

[sacred elm]

Ye

[solar tundra]

So Jade Pro > Raw He?

[kind helm]

ahh so it is a thing ttc does, they had a dragon switch last year. the dragon one is mx though

[sacred elm]

I like jade pros more

[tawdry tree]

You can still get them on other TB stores

[austere creek]

https://tenor.com/view/preference-glarses-mx-brown-cherry-mx-brown-keyboard-gif-21044520

[tawdry tree]

Many manufacturers do something for cny

[glacial wind]

i think those other stores put price up even more lol

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

What’s a mark up on a mark up?

[solar tundra]

Yeah i said same a few messages above i mean if thats his opinion

[tawdry tree]

😂😭

[glacial wind]

i'd rather just wait for whatever non limited edition to release then just buy 4 at $1.50 or whatever less overpriced but still absurdly overpriced amount they set

[austere creek]

money

[sacred elm]

jade pros have slightly different pitch compared to raws, also I prefer bottom out feel of jade pros and they come with 20mm springs which is nice, but if you already have raws I wont recommend spending extra 50$ or whatever they cost for a slight pitch/feel difference

[tawdry tree]

A lot of money

[kind helm]

yea that would make more sense

not like they gonna discard the new and better design

if it is new and better

[tawdry tree]

I’m not certain that the non “OG” CNY ones are limited.

[austere creek]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-cook-money-money-money-money-money-money-gif-16670048503852599108

[solar tundra]

Yeah i mean rn i have WS Dash, i might just send the Raw HEs back

[glacial wind]

i think initial sale they did was mostly just the limited editions, then there'll be a proper sale with more stock of the non limited

[tidal python]

I like raw he more

[solar tundra]

And then buy Jade Pros for 20€ more

[tidal python]

imo

[glacial wind]

since according to their store they only sold a very small amount before they sold out

[sacred elm]

if you can send raws back then sure get jade pros

[kind helm]

from the limited amount of sound test i have watched, it seems like the snake version does sound better, but maybe they just pu some lube in this time like they shouldve.

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[solar tundra]

Difference in Raw HE and Jade Pros? Is it much?

[sacred elm]

this.

[tawdry tree]

Has there been any other switch with rails attached to the top housing instead of the bottom housing? I haven’t seen that before.

[solar tundra]

bet ight

[solar tundra]

They did send me more then my ordered 70, im just lubing 1-2 and if i dont like i send them back

[kind helm]

is there a difference? or the limited edition just has a code slap on to it

[sacred elm]

you get less 0.0001mm deadzone with limited edition

[glacial wind]

it's literally just the serial code

and you get it in a fancy gift box thing

maybe some mini presents like a keycap

[kind helm]

ez money from the rich kids

[glacial wind]

honestly the upmark on the regular one isn't that crazy

[tawdry tree]

you’ll be crying in 10 years when they’re worth $65 each

[kind helm]

i refuse to believe that

[glacial wind]

i can taobao 90 of them for $130shipped, which isn't that far off magneto pom launch price, but problem is compared to sale pricing it's so high

[tawdry tree]

to the moon and beyond!!

[sacred basalt]

What would be the cheapest way to make the spacebar of my wooting 80he less high pitched? I love the sound of the stock keyboard but the spacebar is the one thing I'm iffy on and would like to try changing it up a bit, but don't want to immediately invest in doing it perfectly when sound is my single lowest priority concern

[glacial wind]

i think magneto pom 90 pack was $0.9 per switch on black friday discounts

[glacial wind]

aliexpress, search spacebar foam

[kind helm]

only time i think they are reasonable to buy, but even with 0.9 as price saying they are reasonable leaves a bad taste in my mouth 😦 or finga since i am typing

[glacial wind]

i think there'll be some new item discount options for it soon to get it down to like $55-60 for 90

it's been happening with magneto rgb recently, so means pom is slowly going to start trickling into the vendors inventory after that

[kind helm]

i remember someone in this channel got them for like 50 60 before. with a bunch of discount on top to push it down to a semi normal price

[glacial wind]

yeah that was the early bird discount i linked before, i think raire or someone else bought them

[pulsar plinth]

is there anywhere i can get a steel or aluminium plate from for 60he+ iso?

[gaunt perch]

which seller had the poms for $60?

[solar tundra]

Do you Guys remove the Stock Lube when Handlube the switches?

[kind helm]

it was a sale on ali essentially i think

[kind helm]

i just use a bit of tissue to wipe it off, but people have done it with better ways with i think ultra sonic cleaner or whatever that is called.

[solar tundra]

So you not just lube slighty above the stock lube?

[kind helm]

i think wiping off first is probably gonna be better since you know more or less exactly how much lube you put in there

though realistically i dont know how much of a impact that has

[solar tundra]

Sno do you wipe Stock Lube off the Switches?

When you handlube

[glacial wind]

Nah just lube over it

[solar tundra]

So, yeah lubed raw hes vs stock is def night and day difference tho

[tame vessel]

Two sound profiles I'm trying to decide between. I think the first is more creamy and the second more thocky if my ears work right. Going to let it stew in my head for a bit, but curious what people think?

[solar tundra]

I like the second one more

[icy dew]

@fluid ravine whenever you did the tape mod on your wooting how many layers did you use? And what type of tape?

[orchid folio]

does anyone know if there is other options for the accent piece on the alumaze anywhere? i did a bit of googling and i found only 3D printer schematics but i dont really want to put plastic in my metal case

tbh i even considered going to a locksmith and asking them for an estimate on making it out of stainless steel or sth but i expect that will break the bank XD

[tropic urchin]

They both sound pretty similar, but I like the loudness of 1

[fluid ravine]

1 layer masking tape

[hearty path]

Anyone have the plate file for the 60 he I want to make a custom plate with the cut outs for the pcb mount stabilizer

[cyan lark]

https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design/tree/main/wooting-60he

[hearty path]

Thanks

[cyan lark]

Ooh switch 2, I can throw away my PC now ❤️

[tropic urchin]

I removed my stock tape mod and idk if there’s a difference anymore 🤣

Might be time to go for the foam hehe

[sacred elm]

stock pet film clears your tape mod

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/novela-telenovela-shocked-zoom-omg-gif-25795602

[icy dew]

Does more layers make it more deep sounding

[cyan lark]

Sounds like foam is back on the menu, boys

[tropic urchin]

Yeah more layers you go dampens/makes it ‘deeper’ I guess

[visual ore]

Isn't three layers the standard

I feel like 1 isn't going to do much

[kind helm]

standard is 0

[visual ore]

xD

I want to tape mod the foam directly onto the board

Wonder if that would do anything

[high sphinx]

Guys can someone explain what nkro is ?

[tropic urchin]

With enough tape the stock foam will stick to it

[visual ore]

Lol

https://tenor.com/view/flanders-tape-shutup-quiet-gif-5758206

[tropic urchin]

started at 3

[high sphinx]

i knoa that it allows multiple key presses at once but are there any disadvantages in nkro ?

[sacred elm]

no

[high sphinx]

oh ok so always have it enabled then ?

[visual ore]

That's a good thing no?

That means less hollow sounds

[sacred elm]

Yes NKRO disable should be unchecked

if that setting is enabled keyboard is limited to 125hz

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/167181566978555904/1316250321294458890/image.png?ex=6789d323&is=678881a3&hm=da0a1bd1862b134061d4b8604f5c3f47e845ae0911d2697d5b64c85f908903fb&

[high sphinx]

i use geon software and there is just nkro and the box is automatically checked

[sacred elm]

Yea it should be checked then

[tropic urchin]

Idk depending on what you want. Hated the tape so I removed it for pet film and have removed that now so ymmv depending on your desired sound profile

Might even remove the foam for fun

[high sphinx]

yeah i was thinking that i was just wondering if there were any downsides to having it enabled

[sacred elm]

Nope, you should have it enabled unless you use the keyboard for xbox or something

[high sphinx]

oh yeah i saw but i will just use the tape for now untill the fr4 plate is here but ty tho

[sacred elm]

wait can you even use venom on consoles

[high sphinx]

oh ok i see ty cause console peasants cant use nkro

[high sphinx]

dont think so not sure tho

[sacred elm]

No, I mean can it act as a controller

imagine

[tawdry tree]

https://youtu.be/1AhpSKGEu0A good vid on plates. copper one as well

Just inwards.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984799440072220692/1329390680824614974/1329387540716720150remix-1737021834982.png?ex=678a2b0d&is=6788d98d&hm=047a16d59231d8678d64ed881b3b80dba9baef97aa76ddc687aaae02a1041ca7&

Yeah

Yeah

Just a pen or something

a rod

[autumn creek]

They also have a special place in the after life just for them

[tawdry tree]

that’s fairly stiff

[autumn creek]

Scum I tell yah

At that point you are just a wanna be PC player just come play with the big boys

Good they deserve it

[cyan lark]

Same folks would want to abolish SBMM so they can stomp people for their stream audience

Ws at any cost

[fluid ravine]

Yes
The more layers, the more the filter takes effect on the highs

[fluid ravine]

The volume on the first one is for me

[kind helm]

[reef oar]

i hate it

[kind helm]

keywords to me Hall Effewct MX Hybird

[sacred elm]

no thanks

[chilly mural]

keyboard for competitive fps

mmm, seems alright, but screams 'just get 60%'

[kind helm]

i just think the tech is cool

[sacred elm]

that keyboard needs some treatment

[kind helm]

i dont wanna hear it from a 80he owner

LMAO

[sacred elm]

tho i dont think it can be helped

[hexed knot]

Does anyone here have the Geon raw hes 40g

[sacred elm]

and why is that shiba josh ?

[hexed knot]

I have questions

[sacred elm]

got it, you dont have an answer to that

[kind helm]

copium gasket mount and gamer layout he

[sacred elm]

shiba josh

[kind helm]

both unique in a... interesting way, you know what i mean :3

[sacred elm]

"copium gasket mount"

I can clearly see youre one of those keyboard elitists who pisses on keyboards performance

[kind helm]

but i do agree that layout is L

you get 123456 but not the whole row

[kind helm]

i wish i know enough to be AN elitist

[sacred elm]

You act like one

[tropic urchin]

‘An elitist’

[sacred elm]

its okay shiba josh, that layout is indeed very unique

[tropic urchin]

[chilly mural]

Just like 80he, just remove the other key, nobody uses it when playing

[sacred elm]

just missing one chromosome

[hexed knot]

What switches are lighter old apex pro omnipoints or Geon Raw HE 40G

[sacred elm]

[sacred elm]

at this point just use this

very unique.

who needs other keys

[kind helm]

that is what 80he looks like to me ngl

[hexed knot]

Shafie you got the answer

[sacred elm]

nice

[hexed knot]

?

[sacred elm]

I dont know, never had apex pro

40g raws will be lighter probably

[hexed knot]

Alr

[high sphinx]

Have u guys seen this ?

[tawdry tree]

HM, these are the listed specs. The boards haven’t been tested or released yet.

HM 75 case

like holy but on crack

abstract holy

[high sphinx]

indeed but i wonder if someone has seen it

[tawdry tree]

not yet

there will be an announcement the 18th iirc

[high sphinx]

it is from arbiter studios the specs i sent

[high sphinx]

i think it looks good tho

[tawdry tree]

HM x Arbiter

they merged or sort of merged

[high sphinx]

are those well known brands ?

[tawdry tree]

Hemu, yeah. Arbiter a bit less perhaps.

Arbiter’s polar68 or something was pretty popular despite being shit.

[polar girder]

lol wtf is this

[high sphinx]

oh ok ty

[high sphinx]

idk i have seen it in the geon dirscrod somewhere

[tawdry tree]

Hm60z

There’s the 64z and 75z as well

new boards