🔧│keyboard_modding

[calm tartan]

Has anyone found a solution to connect the wooting wrist rest to the 60he? Mine are slipping away from each other while playing

[solid panther]

how to pull the switches easily please

[vapid oracle]

Switch puller

Gotcha do you own a pair?

[cyan lark]

I do not

Otherwise I'd know how they feel 🙂

[earnest cypress]

hi

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/kto-lbow-hi-hello-hi-there-gif-25347432

[snow skiff]

hello I received my wooting on Tuesday and after 3 uses the T key activates by itself. thank you for your help

[sacred elm]

replug

[hexed knot]

Shafie is him

[kind helm]

you were planning to do jade pro + cf right?

i am loving my jade pro + cf build a little bit more each day

[sacred elm]

ye and will also try fr4

[tropic urchin]

its a nice time

if you lube it too its perfection

[kind helm]

i just pulled out my raw + alu for like a brief comparison. man i love them both equally it is so nice to be able to swap around and enjoy peak HE

[kind helm]

lube for what? deeper sound?

i dont hear any ping from it other than what sounds like coming from the magnet banging against the bottom housing

not sure if i should :3

[gusty wadi]

Do any of you know any good websites for keycaps? or should I just order from amazon or something

[kind helm]

depends on your budget :3

[gusty wadi]

I don't really know the market on keycaps, but ideally less than £30, idk if that's too low of a budget

[kind helm]

a little bit on the low side, but i think aliexpress would be the best option for you

the shipping may take some time but the price is better than amazons

[gusty wadi]

Ah yeah I see the price, do you recommend anything specific? I currently just have the default 80he ones, not sure if there's any specific keycaps that are pretty good?

[tropic urchin]

Might just be batch to batch difference but mine stock had a slight plasticky pitch to it so I lubed it and it went away

So I went ham on spring + stem and it was a pretty good result albeit with some switches lost along the way due to overlubing

[kind helm]

pretty good to me is like around 70 to 100 dollar keycaps, but of course sometimes if you get lucky the good ones may go as low as i think around 50 usd. and you have crazy price stuff that goes all the way to 200 or more usd.

i dont really know exactly what stores you should look at though for ali. myself mainly go for the ones around 70 to 100 nowadays.

the reason why i suggest ali over amazon is because a lot of the items listed on amazon are essentially the same thing from ali but with a slightly raised price

[tulip rapids]

hooooollyyyyy

[kind helm]

icic thank you ❤️

[gusty wadi]

Ah I see, I don't really wanna pay that price for keycaps tbf, it's more just on the look that i'm after, obviously I don't want like a cheap plastic keycap set but yeah

[tropic urchin]

It does create a fuller sound imo, but it returns to its original volume with pretty good results, but maybe I’m just schizo

[kind helm]

i am happy with it for now. you know i actually hope to grab a second set of clean raw he, the ones i lubed and spring swapped are slightly deeper, but now I kinda want to see how my board would sound with clean raw he

[kind helm]

i would aim around 40 to 60 on ali, there should be some decent ones there. I have a set from ali that i enjoy right now.

[honest sapphire]

any new hall effect switches out?

[gusty wadi]

Can you send a picture or link to the ones you have?

Curious to see

Only problem is idk what kind of keycaps there are, as i've always just had cheap keyboards like £20 plastic ones, but looking on ali rn there's like pudding ones which looks cool

[kind helm]

this set was around 40 to 50 from aliexpress

[gusty wadi]

and do they feel the same or different to the 80he ones?

Like are they just different design/pattern or are they actually feeling different

[stone flax]

the 80he sells different types of caps

but yes most definitely

[kind helm]

i dont own 80he, but i would think they should feel different, just because the material would be slightly different. but there is not really like a improvement

just different

[gusty wadi]

I have the default ones

[gusty wadi]

Ah I see

[kind helm]

i would say mainly a pattern and design thing

[gusty wadi]

Okay sweet

I guess i'll just have to take a look around until I find designs that I like

[kind helm]

the higher quality key caps essentially have better consistency and more perfected small details on the pattern

[gusty wadi]

Ah I see

[kind helm]

but mr. mj most likely can expand on my really basic understanding if he feels like it

[stone flax]

dye sub pbt

depending on thickness

ur looking at smoother feeling keycaps that are also more mutede

lemme check what caps stock 80he caps uses

doubleshot pbt

with shinethrough

[gusty wadi]

They feel pretty nice, but obviously I can only compare this to really cheap keyboard in the past

[stone flax]

ur keycaps will be most likely thinner and higher pitched, more textured and prone to shine/gloss over time than the one he showed

they also went through two different processes

[kind helm]

mine is this one, nothing fancy either

[gusty wadi]

Hmm I see, so in your opinion, is there anything specific I should be searching for when it comes to keycaps?

Like you mentioned dye sub pbt whatever that is, should I be searching for those types of keycaps?

I may sound dumb saying that as I have no clue what that is

[kind helm]

just material and how the pattern is created on the cap

[gusty wadi]

Which material would you recommend, or is that just preference?

[kind helm]

i dont think you really have to worry about that. the difference may not be something you care about. as mj mentioned, cap' effects the pitch of board a bit. and some a bit more textured on your finger while other more smooth (i think at some point cap would all be smooth since your finger has oil, but higher quality cap supposedly should last longer in that way.)

none of those things matter to me personally

especially given your budget, you dont really have much options in terms of material and processing.

in terms of pattern and design though you have plenty of options

[north radish]

klacc 👀

пожалуйста, отправьте ссылку в dms 😉

[kind helm]

i dont speak the language my friend, i just think the design and the characters are cool

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807197498158.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.16.5284180288NTct&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

[north radish]

😭

all good brother, thanks anyway 💪

appreciate it 😄

[kind helm]

[gusty wadi]

Ah okay I see makes sense, appreciate all your guys help

[crystal pagoda]

pre, fre, rence

i would say that on the cheaper end outside of something like ghost judges or aifei, its way easier to get passably good quality keycaps as far as dyesub pbt goes than it does for passably good quality for doubleshots

if you know what ur looking for theyre both options

just that the gap between a cheap doubleshot set to something like gmk is a bigger difference to something like an xmi set to crp

[gusty wadi]

All seems a bit complicated lol, I don't understnad any of those terms lol but yeah, idk maybe I just stick to the ones I got

[barren wasp]

where can i buy nice keycaps without breaking the bank

[cyan lark]

Praise me: I organized all my KB tools, caps, mods into bins and reclaimed my clean office.

[kind helm]

i will be impress if that last for more than 1 week

[waxen thistle]

First time modding, can someone explain me the difference between this stock part and the second one ? (The part between the plate and the pcb)

[cyan lark]

You mean the silicone vs foam gasket?

[waxen thistle]

yes

[cyan lark]

Changes the sound and feel somewhat. The silicone is harder than the foam and absorbs less sound.

[waxen thistle]

okay thank you very much !

[chilly mural]

GJ

[visual ore]

Just got my keyboard temporary setup for now until the keycaps come in. It's not as clacky as I thought it would be with TTC RGB tbh.

[chilly mural]

You did well, time to do it every other week

[visual ore]

Haven't put in the CF plate yet though

[cyan lark]

Thank you ❤️

Interesting. I haven't heard tests of the KoM RGB much if at all.

But the OG and POMs definitely are a noticeable step up in clackiness compared to all the other switches I've tried thus far.

[visual ore]

Maybe I did something wrong but with default plates it's not that loud? In fairness I have no other switches to compare to xD

[cyan lark]

Even on PC plate - even more intense on CF.

[visual ore]

So it might be loud but I just have no reference point

[cyan lark]

Out of curiosity, what switches did you use before and are comparing against?

[visual ore]

None

That's why I have no point of reference

Quick and dirty

[cyan lark]

Oh I see. Yeah that sounds in the ballpark.

Maybe you just enjoy or are indifferent to the louder sound?

[visual ore]

Maybe haha

[stone flax]

..gasket?

[cyan lark]

The part that puts the gasket in the gasket-mount

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasket

[stone flax]

i dont see how plate foams act as gasket

but you do you boo

😂

[cyan lark]

Call it a penguin if you want

Don't bother me none

[tawdry tree]

It’s not gasket in this case. Just the switch pad.

[stone flax]

we’re at a day and age where calling things the wrong things no longer matters

[tawdry tree]

For the 80HE it would be.

[cyan lark]

Man mj you have a real knack for sounding like a jerk w/out even trying.

[tawdry tree]

Eh, it’s no biggie.

[stone flax]

linking a wikipedia page for gaskets doesnt come off the least bit condescending

for sure

[visual ore]

To be honest it doesn't really feel like a gasket mount

Not much give here

[harsh dove]

Guys, it’s not that deep, move on

[tawdry tree]

Correct!

[cyan lark]

If linking the wikipedia page came off as condescending I apologize, that was not my intention.

[stone flax]

I know what gaskets are, thanks

[kind helm]

question, is there a difference in sound when you position the switch facing south or north?

[fluid ravine]

No

[stone flax]

in a world with r3 interference, yes. Here, no most likely

[kind helm]

i maybe on some crazy copium... but it seems like my spacebar sounds a bit better with the light diffuser facing south

[cyan lark]

Maybe the difference in shape/weighting and where you finger hits it?

[stone flax]

try the space bar upside down north-facing

aswell as upside down bar south-facing

either placebo or interference (even though interference shouldnt persist here)

https://preview.redd.it/qeemb4ol5v461.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=07a5f7bef575a466cca4394e86906df61bcf5b88

[kind helm]

i checked before i install, no interference

[stone flax]

Then enjoy the placebo

[kind helm]

maybe just coping to be honest

i just record the sound, i gonna compare with the one yesterday

[cyan lark]

Oh I misread, thought you were talking about the spacebar cap being upside down or not.

[kind helm]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

the top out is clearer to me

nope. nvm. on salvation is the same shit

on tofu different but i think that is a tofu problem (the bowl thing seems to be a bit inconsistent sometime in my experience so yea maybe not a good idea to consider that result)

[tawdry tree]

Could be. Technically there would be a difference as the sides are physically different but I doubt it’d be audible.

[kind helm]

my thought as well. especially with spacebar it has more reverb

[tawdry tree]

You should try cutting of the pins and do east/west facing (it’s terrible).

[tawdry tree]

Definitely possible, but unlikely nonetheless.

[kind helm]

yee so i asked and tested

honestly i shouldve just listen to mr. mj and wait for leggra instead of going with tofu

"bowl mount seems fun" stupid stupid stupid me

[glossy pagoda]

If there's any single key that would have the most change in sound by switching directions of the switch, it'd be the spacebar

Can't say I've ever heard a difference myself, but I've never flipped my spacebar around either and there's plenty who do

[cyan lark]

Was away for a few, but I'd like to understand so I don't misuse terms in the future.

So in the case of the silicone layer in the 80HE, it seems to me like it serves as both a pad for the switch plate and has the gaskets around the perimeter. Is that correct, or am I off base?

All that I can find seems to indicate that the "gaskets" in the gasket mount are just whatever material is used to separate the PCB from the case.

[tawdry tree]

That’s correct. The 80HE’s silicone switch pad also functions as the gasket. This is not the case for the 60HE for example, there the switch pad functions solely as a switch pad.

[dusty wren]

best parts to lube jade pros?

[cyan lark]

Sure, ok that makes sense to me.

[tawdry tree]

You’d usually call it a gasket if the case (two part case) clamps it closed if that makes sense? Woot’s friction pad for example wouldn’t be called a gasket mount.

Neither would the 461E’s, although that one is arguable.

[cyan lark]

Sure, I was just confused why the foam replacement pad would no longer be providing the gasket, since it still provides the raised bits around the perimeter to separate the PCB from the case.

Structurally it seems identical, other than being made of a different material.

[tawdry tree]

Stem, housing and bottom/top of the springs, if you just use 205.

[dusty wren]

by housing do u mean circular thing in the middle or the 2 parts where the stem slides into

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, if it was for the 80HE, then the foam would still be the gasket.

[cyan lark]

Oh I did not realize that the pic wasn't of an 80HE

[tawdry tree]

The housing and stem rails.

[cyan lark]

Thanks a bunch for clarifying

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, that’s why I said if it was for an 80HE, it would be a gasket.

[tawdry tree]

Np man!

[cyan lark]

Totally missed that

[tawdry tree]

All good!

[dusty wren]

so i lube both of those?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah. It’s not necessary at all to lube by the way.

They come prelubed pretty decently.

[dusty wren]

yea but i mean i got the time so i wanna make it better if i can

thanks tho

[kind helm]

any recommendation for tkl case?
mx board.
plastic or acrylic, less weight better for easier to carry. but i dont wanna have any tape/polyfill/cotton/foam on it (for hopefully slightly transparent soft glow)
a brass piece maybe cool though... open for suggestions -v-

will pair with probably
one of the plastic plates, i find new comer to keyboards seem to enjoy the softer sound more.
and a nice linear switch.

planning on making a gift

[stone flax]

transition lite

tiger lite

just go cheap

[kind helm]

damn tiger rn so much cheaper

[stone flax]

No pcb included for the one u saw

[kind helm]

ah

[harsh dove]

Nuphy gem80

Nah I woulda said tigr lite tbh

[kind helm]

yee lookin at the 3 tiger seems to be the one

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[stone flax]

whats the budget like for the gift

[kind helm]

transition has a black plate

[harsh dove]

Get some hmx yogurts

[kind helm]

probably below 300 whole build

i am planning on some nicepbt caps so that is 100

[stone flax]

waow thats high

[kind helm]

switches probably around 50

so i guess 135 for case

15 for stab

[harsh dove]

$300 for a newcomer? Damn

Could put that towards a 5090

[kind helm]

i was thinking something a bit more high end than tiger lite tbh, but i dont know what is good out there.

plan is slightly transparent white case with some light blue and white color theme caps

something like this but a bit lighter color would be awesome i think

[barren wasp]

what keycap style is best for creamy

[stone flax]

plastic?

[stone flax]

cream cheese

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711913638193004556/1300554769336635493/creamy.gif

[kind helm]

not worth going higher you mean?

[stone flax]

i mean there is

but theyre new

they dont have preferences

[kind helm]

tiger lite sold out, the gaming version is for HE i think

[stone flax]

they probably wont realize the difference between a $150 build and $300 one

[kind helm]

50 dolla for case and pcb is kinda solid

but fuck he

[kind helm]

you right but let's say i am a dumb ass

mainly my thinking is you go higher with plastic case probably the design/ the look would be better, so maybe it is worth

[stone flax]

Ya

[kind helm]

tiger lite looks cheap af to me, but i guess i am a bit brainwashed

[stone flax]

youd often fine ur going from stuff like injection molded abs and that sort to cnc’d pc and shii

[fluid ravine]

Bauer lite?

[stone flax]

65%

[fluid ravine]

O

[kind helm]

too geeky as well

[fluid ravine]

Wait what's the main objective for the build

[kind helm]

wait no you right, i shouldve said semi transparent

frosty? cloudy? i donno dude

[stone flax]

Frosted

[cyan lark]

Translucent

[austere creek]

showing people how bad some peoples soldering skills are

[kind helm]

me no speak good english xD

[stone flax]

just get a kalam pc kohaku

and says its a tkl

😛

[stone flax]

Classic tkl?

Maybe

[fluid ravine]

O TKL frosted plastic case build?

[kind helm]

yee that is closer to what i have in mind but i know that is way way out of my legend and of course i dont wanna cope any not so... common layout

[stone flax]

wdym

👅

7u bottom good

[kind helm]

7U expose my skill issues

[mental shell]

Anyone know how many switches the 80he has? I'm considering buying some geon raw he's. I heard they're the best.

[kind helm]

tiger lite is the one for now, just sent a message asking when kbdfan gonna restock it

[kind helm]

gonna check it out, thank you sir ❤️

[stone flax]

ya okie

it is fine

[kind helm]

i was hoping to have like this type of color

this is acrylic

[inland jetty]

@tropic urchin blue set for the raw zinc. I know you were looking for one

[snow skiff]

?

[kind helm]

unplug the usb c cable then plug it back in, someone already answered

and don't hold down any keys while you are plugging in the cable

[tropic urchin]

not my favorite blue, but could work. something about the renders look off to me idk what

[visual ore]

Man anyone got recommendation for taming this spacebar

[fluid ravine]

[visual ore]

Probably the only part of the keyboard I'm having trouble with in terms of sound T.T

[visual ore]

Got lube, o-rings and some foam xD

Any more ideas?

Might revisit the lube though

[fluid ravine]

Just do a proper tuning to the stabilizer themselves with lube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8

[visual ore]

Oooh tuning

[fluid ravine]

You shouldn't really need anything else like o'rings or whatever with the stabs

[visual ore]

Right I knew I forgot something

[snow skiff]

he didn't do it again for two seconds and then his soul did it again

[kind helm]

????????????????

[snow skiff]

it doesn't work

[reef oar]

@snow skiff replace the switch

you get 2 spare switches

pull it and put a new one in

it's probably not the switch but try it anyway

[inland jetty]

its similar to the one you sent before

[tropic urchin]

might just be the renders

[dusky orchid]

I have a KBDFans straight cable with a lemo conector, can i use the tachyon mode with It?

[uneven cradle]

Only one way to find out

[inland jetty]

could be 👀 , selecting end game keycaps is so hard 😅

[visual ore]

Time to plug that bad boy in and find out

[flat cobalt]

I wanna paint my GT80 when I get it maybe

[tidal frigate]

With what

Remember e coat is not possible without expensive equipment

[flat cobalt]

I was just gonna use some spray paint

Sand it down, do a primer, then paint over it, and then a varnish clear coat

[quasi hinge]

Do it

[umbral ridge]

the friction fit is fire asf dont know how I feel about the thick bezels on the optimum tech

[flat cobalt]

Maybe gonna be a while

[flat cobalt]

I don’t like the thick bezels but the color is very pretty

[quasi hinge]

Too thick for me, I prefer the alumaze but like the color

[polar girder]

I like the thick bezels

[quasi hinge]

If they had an alumaze or 80he in that color… win

[polar girder]

Colors ok

[quasi hinge]

Well it is subjective lol

[polar girder]

One might say

[quasi hinge]

Some opinions are more equal than others

Animal farm reference for the uninitiated

[flat cobalt]

Do you have a 60he or an 80he?

[harsh dove]

Thick bezzys for chads

[fluid ravine]

Personally I love thinner bezels, always will
But optimum bezels grew on to me so quick

[flat cobalt]

Traitor

[fluid ravine]

I start loving them as well

[fluid ravine]

What???

[flat cobalt]

Thin bezel gang

[fluid ravine]

[flat cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-21574546

[fluid ravine]

I love both

Like like-

It just grew up
Like me

[harsh dove]

One on the left is the one she says not to worry about

[fluid ravine]

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-smirk-shrek-sus-shrek-smile-gif-4983018699107868283

[flat cobalt]

That does look good actually

Side by side

[fluid ravine]

Seeeee

[flat cobalt]

[fluid ravine]

[quasi hinge]

Actually yeah both look good

Large bezel doesnt get in the way at all?

[fluid ravine]

Nope

Nothing wrong with it for me

[quasi hinge]

Solid keycap choice

[fluid ravine]

Some people would even rest their pinky on it to be for real

I can't cus mine sticks up
Cus I'm too fancy

[fluid ravine]

Zankuu

We love BooBs

[fluid ravine]

The cheaper side of coiled cable
Idk bunching the cable like that reminds me of one lul

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-after-careful-consideration-i-have-come-to-the-conclusion-that-your-opinion-sucks-gif-25893576

[vapid oracle]

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-atomic-purple

would any yall buy these?

[polar girder]

60% only for me

[visual ore]

Don't have a keyboard for it tbh

[umbral ridge]

DONT LOOK

[flat cobalt]

Time for salvation cosmos

[polar girder]

lol no

I’m over tray mount

[flat cobalt]

Honestly what turned me off for the salvation cosmos is that they never turned the pre order off

Like it’s still going on to this day

[harsh dove]

I did

[vapid oracle]

When? & the basic version?!

[harsh dove]

a couple days ago

[vapid oracle]

Hell yeah I just bought them today only 1 left in stock! Which version!

[visual ore]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808104223606.html?spm=a2g0o.home.pcJustForYou.4.150876dbSTebXb&gps-id=pcJustForYou&scm=1007.13562.416251.0&scm_id=1007.13562.416251.0&scm-url=1007.13562.416251.0&pvid=3e9f6213-7b36-4a6d-950c-6f32a655a063&_t=gps-id:pcJustForYou,scm-url:1007.13562.416251.0,pvid:3e9f6213-7b36-4a6d-950c-6f32a655a063,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238115%232000&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!16.75!11.72!!!16.75!11.72!%402101ef7017366505136545584e72f2!12000044578843317!rec!US!2950449450!XZ&utparam-url=scene%3ApcJustForYou|query_from%3A

Early bird deal on TTC RGB

2 left

If you want to try it now is the time.

[harsh dove]

wym basic version?

[vapid oracle]

There’s different bundles did you just get the basic for 99$?

[visual ore]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808101157841.html?spm=a2g0o.home.pcJustForYou.17.150876dbSTebXb&gps-id=pcJustForYou&scm=1007.13562.416251.0&scm_id=1007.13562.416251.0&scm-url=1007.13562.416251.0&pvid=3e9f6213-7b36-4a6d-950c-6f32a655a063&_t=gps-id:pcJustForYou,scm-url:1007.13562.416251.0,pvid:3e9f6213-7b36-4a6d-950c-6f32a655a063,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238115%232000&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!16.75!12.98!!!16.75!12.98!%402101ef7017366505136545584e72f2!12000044486996973!rec!US!2950449450!XZ&utparam-url=scene%3ApcJustForYou|query_from%3A

[harsh dove]

I usually call em kits not versions lol

[visual ore]

Another early bird deal on TTC RGB

3 left

[harsh dove]

like Base Kit, Accent Kit etc

[vapid oracle]

That’s dope bro

[vapid oracle]

All g I meant kits do you think the base kit worth 100$ or over priced?

[harsh dove]

I think it's a good price

it has the novelties included in the base kit so

Pretty big base kit for $99

[vapid oracle]

Okay I’m new to buying keys what’s the novelties ? Is that just another company

[harsh dove]

No, novelties are all those extra keycaps in the bottom left with the special icons

Usually most keycap sets sell those separately

[inland jetty]

so sad, accents out of stock for us here in the US

[harsh dove]

Damn, glad I snagged em then lol

[vapid oracle]

Gotcha! I’m excited you think the basic kit the best value out of all of them?

[inland jetty]

it was really fast. It was already gone the moment it was posted here.

[harsh dove]

Didn't realize they were gone that fast lol

[harsh dove]

best value compared to what? Other keycap sets?

The base kit gives you the full set, the rest are just add-ons

[vapid oracle]

oh okay stuff isn’t cheap imo

Adds up quick

[harsh dove]

I mean there's cheaper keycaps out there but yeah these are on the higher end

[vapid oracle]

My first time ever spending 100$ on keycaps I’m hoping I can be satisfied and rock these for a long time

[harsh dove]

You will

[vapid oracle]

This looks super clean👀

[harsh dove]

yeah its not mine, just off the website

[vapid oracle]

Yeee I know what keyboard are you gonna put the caps on? @harsh dove

[glacial wind]

$99 is fairly average pricing for decent brand keycaps that aren’t on sale

$80-100 is very standard there

My Domikey translucent were $52 but that was on large sale discount and no novelties with them

[vapid oracle]

Fair enough so I guess I got my moneys worth for them.

[glacial wind]

yeah I wouldn’t be upset about spending $100 for a set that includes novelties. Like maybe you could find them for $70 on a sale down the line but sales can be hit or miss for stock

[stone flax]

if i wanted keycaps that crack

yes id buy them

[vapid oracle]

?

[stone flax]

pbtfans, esp their translucent type caps are still notorious for cracking luls

so yea

if i wanted caps that crack

id buy them fs 🔥

absolutely great they give good options for cs and rma'ing

but thats reason not to buy

[vapid oracle]

I’m confused by when you say they “crack”

[harsh dove]

And from the ones I own, it's never happened

so take that as you will

[glacial wind]

I wouldn’t be all that worried, it’s covered by warranty and doesn’t seem to happen all that much on newer sets

[harsh dove]

and extended warranty for those sets

[vapid oracle]

How long is warranty on them?

[harsh dove]

2 years

[vapid oracle]

Oh def not worried then wow

[glacial wind]

a lot of the cracking stuff was from some of their older sets like kabuki cho when I was looking it up before

Was only 1 guy I saw with issues with the xray

[stone flax]

ive seen more than one

[glacial wind]

But his were all warrantied right after

[stone flax]

not really a contention here, just that until cracking stops being the thing with pbtfans ur buying into, warranty or not its still an issue

[brittle grail]

Lads Im so lost I don't know what to do and where to get the answers without going insane. Does anyone have any idea what metallic sponge did they use for the optimum case to ground it? I want to make my own brass low profile case friction fit would let me cut a lot of cost down but I'm reading on those foams they all seem bidirectional basically meaning they would just zap the board out of existence and I have no clue what to chose I'm just stuck in a rabbidhole and the support ticket that I sent a while back left me with an empty reply

[harsh dove]

I'm sure it's something they're working on if not already

[stone flax]

its less and less

but still a thing

x-ray wasnt as bad

[glacial wind]

When I looked for multiple reports for xray it was more so 1 guy posting everywhere

[harsh dove]

Yeah I mean nothings perfect, but also only the people who have issues are gonna post and how many people have problems out of how many sets were made/sold, it's probably less than 1%

[glacial wind]

Think he was in like 5 different threads talking about xray issues but it was all 1 guy

[harsh dove]

It's probably about the same likelihood as getting a warped spacebar

[glacial wind]

Like cam said unless it’s more widespread it’s not something I’d be all that worried about

With how popular xray was I’d have expected way more reports of cracking if it was actually widespread

[harsh dove]

Yeah very true

I even inspected mine after you I had seen you talking about it that one day lol

[glacial wind]

yeah that’s why I looked at so many threads about it online lol

I was curious how widespread the cracking was

Almost all the reports are the older sets but there was 1 guy with xray that was posting about it everywhere

[harsh dove]

Yeah forsure, no cracks on mine but they do have shine on them now, have to look at it at like eye-level in the light to see it though

lol

[vapid oracle]

Atomic purple kit should be fine I’m assuming?

[harsh dove]

for shine?

nah they're ABS

They'll shine eventually too

Just harder to see it on the translucent sets

[glacial wind]

you just kind of deal with shine if you buy abs. More so if you have very sweaty acid hands

[vapid oracle]

My hands always clean

[harsh dove]

Yeah Sno has acid hands

[vapid oracle]

Whenever I touch my stuff

[stone flax]

they. will. shine.

[glacial wind]

that’s why I moved my set to my 60% where I just use it once in awhile

and my 80he always uses pbt lol

[harsh dove]

yeah even if you clean your hands, it'll take longer but still will shine no matter what

[cyan lark]

My hands are clean & dry to a fault but somehow I shine up keycaps quickly. Must be the furiosness of the typing.

[vapid oracle]

No biggie tbh I haven’t tried abs keycaps before always had pbt so I’m excited

[harsh dove]

Them glorious finger oils

[kind helm]

maybe secretly a keyboard licker

[cyan lark]

Don't yuck my yum

[harsh dove]

I love both but I really enjoy ABS

[stone flax]

people try to run from shine, but sooner or later they just come to embrace it

[vapid oracle]

I’m hyped

[vapid oracle]

Whats the differences between abs and pbt? Material obviously? The feel different?

[harsh dove]

Feel, sound, and color palette

[vapid oracle]

Oooooo sound different too? Damn didn’t know that one

[harsh dove]

Yeah PBT tends to be deeper sounding while ABS is louder or clackier

thickness of the keycaps can affect that too

[stone flax]

thats one of the biggest things ya

[vapid oracle]

Hmmmm interesting I wonder how fast Kbdfans shipping

[flat cobalt]

Wear gloves

[uneven cradle]

Finally put my keycaps on not sure if I keep the blue row

[vapid oracle]

Bruhhhh lmao

[flat cobalt]

Someone was telling me that I should be doing that when using GMKs

Like bro I’m just trying to game on these cool keycaps

[cyan lark]

Is there a gray row to replace it? It's gorgeous regardless.

[vapid oracle]

Ain’t that serious lmaooo

[uneven cradle]

There is the kitting was pretty large

[kind helm]

yee or nah with a tiger lite transparent white case

[harsh dove]

I was using the colors which are super nice ofc, but now I'm using all grey lol

When I had colors

[kind helm]

this one is nice, me like

feel like the color is placed more... purposefully

[stone flax]

rubrehorse so tasty

oml

[uneven cradle]

Yeah I'm gonna steal that layout

Although these will probably stay on my rubre jane once it arrives

[tawdry tree]

No, that’s fine. As long as you place it under the USB-C port so it solely makes contact with the port, then you’re good. If you place it randomly under the PCB, then it’ll be problematic. You can find strips on AliExpress than you can cut to size.

Here I listed a few, one of which is on Amazon: #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[tawdry tree]

Sounds like copium to me 😭

[stone flax]

shine is good

its proof you showed ur keyboard love

[tawdry tree]

on some sets*

[tawdry tree]

or torture.

[flat cobalt]

Salvation 80he when

[polar girder]

lol 80HE isn’t tray mount. Never

[tawdry tree]

just drill some holes lol 🤷‍♂️

[kind helm]

or just dont use 80he

[flat cobalt]

I just want that rough and fabulous finish on the 80he so bad

[inland jetty]

crazy how the cherry clones of my KAT profile keycaps are less shine through (by less, i mean, it has almost no shine through noticeable atm) out of the box and it costs a little less than half

[scarlet barn]

Hello! would anyone be able to recommend me some switches that have that cream sound effect that are compatible with the wooting 80 he?

[stone flax]

switches dont have a cream sound effect

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711913638193004556/1300554769336635493/creamy.gif

[tawdry tree]

We need a cream gif counter

[scarlet barn]

is this not? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/k0hPRTxEUfc

[kind helm]

all foams

[stone flax]

sounds like foam

[scarlet barn]

wdym

[scarlet barn]

it does

i would like to find switches that sound like that but compatible with a wooting 80he

[stone flax]

switches dont sound like they have 3 layers of foam shoved into them

[scarlet barn]

im confused, are you saying i can imitate that sound with the default switches i have then?

[inland jetty]

the different components of the keyboard as well as mods will affect how your keyboard will sound. Keep in mind, material density will produce different types of sounds as it affects how sound waves travel. I think ive only heard of one sound test from here that is similar to what you want. Though, its funny because someone else will call that thoccy xD its very subjective

[kind helm]

should i link that one sound test again

my THOCKY CREAMY TASTY tofu redux

[stone flax]

no need

[stone flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CorB0q9QImw

[kind helm]

doesn't thock as hard as mine

[stone flax]

sound tests are a lie

switches dont sound creamy

creamy is a useless buzz word

everything in a keyboard makes more a difference

hell id say outsite of reduced travel closed vs full travel open bottoms ur not gonna see a huge sound profile difference in HE (ignoring stuff like hamfisted silents or clickies) in ur setup as much as changing plates or foam config or mounting style OR LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE would

but none of this points towards """creamy""" - just different

[scarlet barn]

okay, so where would i start to produce this sound? does this mean it doesnt matter what switch type i have for this?

[stone flax]

produce what sound, because thus far i just heard a bunch of foam and sound editing

[fluid ravine]

At this point just put hella amount of foam 😭

[stone flax]

someone going up and asking how do i get a creamy sounding keyboard is about as informative as them saying they wanted a chocolatey one

[fluid ravine]

"creamy" shouldn't really be a word in this hobby but it apparently just is

[kind helm]

i mean we still use words like bright or lively

or full

[fluid ravine]

Defining "creamy" to some people or what they think it means is like a deep and muffled sound profile which in other terms would be like a muted thock and im like wtf

wait english aint englishing hollup

[stone flax]

cause they mean something

lively is unmuted

bright is the opposite of dull

creamy is the opposite of.... lumpy sound profile?

[polar girder]

Creamy is a softness

Clack is a harshness

Thock is a deepness

[kind helm]

in the early days when i started modding, someone explained somewhere that clack is high pitch, thock is low pitch, where cream is kinda the middle

[tawdry tree]

deep clack = marbly
high thock is creamy?

[fluid ravine]

😭

[polar girder]

lol

[kind helm]

LMFAO

what is going on here

[polar girder]

Yeah I guess so

[tawdry tree]

we need some standards for this shit

[fluid ravine]

like creamy at this point is like a onomatopoeia

[fluid ravine]

PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE

set some ground rules fr

[polar girder]

I prefer to just talk about pitch and volume

[kind helm]

i think it is a matter of being more descriptive

[fluid ravine]

this right here

[stone flax]

what

[polar girder]

Clean vs scratchy and other variables maybe

[fluid ravine]

absolutely

[stone flax]

this is why thocky/creamy should never be used as terms

atleast clacky somehow's just become synonymous with loud and high pitched now

[kind helm]

yea really subjectively defined

[stone flax]

perfect inks

[fluid ravine]

tf does that mean 😭

[stone flax]

gat inks

[fluid ravine]

bro at this point

grab a keyboard

shove some foam

[fluid ravine]

open up youtube

[kind helm]

that is why i think the plate video you sent actually is pretty easy to understand, because everything is relative

[stone flax]

this is thock

[fluid ravine]

and play clam chowder asmr

and type all day

[fluid ravine]

wow so thocky

[tawdry tree]

what’s the origin of thock?

[kind helm]

what is that

sounds so cursed

[fluid ravine]

EXACTLY

😭

[kind helm]

oh boi

shouldn't have searched

[fluid ravine]

😂

[stone flax]

topre

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-eyeroll-gif-5637372828311539729

[tawdry tree]

🙋‍♂️

[scarlet barn]

okay could anyone please provide me with some practical or helpful to imitate the sounds that the persons keyboard in the video makes

[tawdry tree]

first mention of thock was about topre?

[stone flax]

iirc ya, used as an onomataopeia for the actual thuddy sound on bottom out

[kind helm]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[stone flax]

it should have ended here TwT

[kind helm]

scroll down a little bit there i mentioned how i did mine

hehe

[harsh dove]

You're not going to achieve that sound with HE switches, but you can hand lube your switches, that'll help a bit

Jade Pros would probably be your best bet

[inland jetty]

agreed, its either 'clacky' or the high frequencies are pronounced or thoccy where lower/mid frequencies are more pronounced.

[sage flicker]

So I'm convinced switch spring weight really affects typing speed, these POM KOMs are very nice, but I think they are at a gaming weight (48g). I'm already typing faster on these vs my Jades that I modded with 35g. Gonna switch out these for 62g springs and test.

fewer mistakes with heavier switches imo.

[fluid ravine]

Take advantage of using foams and how much and what type of foam you use. You can learn more from keybored's video on Thock vs Clack which I don't have a link rn.

[harsh dove]

Yeah I have fewer mistakes with heavier switches too

[fluid ravine]

Ill look for it rq

[fluid ravine]

https://youtu.be/_N8k0u75eLQ?si=Hif5Vst3rLLyCY41

Great video to learn how foam works

And understand how it could affect sound

[stone flax]

oh my thock

[kind helm]

damn

[fluid ravine]

I remember a day of which spelling is correct
Thock or thocc

[inland jetty]

might be describing pornhub at this point, jesus

[fluid ravine]

Lmak

[inland jetty]

thocc thocc lmfao

[stone flax]

thock was always deranged

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[fluid ravine]

Wtf 👁️👄👁️

[stone flax]

theres probably earlier instances

but ya

[scarlet barn]

so realistically

https://milktooth.com/

if i looked here

and ordered switches under the creamy switches

[stone flax]

four people here alr nudged you towards the direction

[scarlet barn]

it wouldnt acheive anything

[stone flax]

just get foam

[scarlet barn]

bc i need foam

[fluid ravine]

OH LORD HAVE MERCY

[scarlet barn]

and

[fluid ravine]

XINHAI AS CREAMY

[scarlet barn]

lube

gotcha

[stone flax]

?

[fluid ravine]

💀💀💀

[stone flax]

milktooth is a goober

he's a silly nice guy

but a goober

he literally tries to market his switches

with the whole

creamy

thock

clacky

yummy train

[fluid ravine]

Real

[scarlet barn]

gotcha

[kind helm]

[scarlet barn]

so all of that is just bait

[stone flax]

ya no duh

[scarlet barn]

and i need to focus on foam and loob

oops

lube

[fluid ravine]

The word thock is like a bait for views

Yknow what's crazy

[stone flax]

i mean just focus on a board that sounds good

how long have u had the 80he

[fluid ravine]

HMX xinhais are both in creamy and clack category

Like pick one damnit

Even though its a high pitch switch

[kind helm]

it is in between

[fluid ravine]

Bro

[kind helm]

i didn't even notice that when i brought switches on his site

[fluid ravine]

The indecisiveness

[stone flax]

lets make more buzzwords

[inland jetty]

@kind helm link him ur shit and help the man lmfao, u know ur the one that achieved closest to what he wants xD

[stone flax]

i need a glassy switch

[kind helm]

i did bro

these disbelievers of THOCK

man i cant stand them

[fluid ravine]

Tell me abt it..

I don't even wanna paste my own builds

[inland jetty]

ew

[flat cobalt]

I’m looking for a slimey profile what switches should I get?

[inland jetty]

clack all the way ❤️ xD

[fluid ravine]

Real

Idk clack feels more natural for me to be honest

Just using the board's raw potential

[inland jetty]

basically, then i ended up liking it

[fluid ravine]

Without any sound acoustic modifiers

[fluid ravine]

Yup

Alexotos taught me da way

He was the reason why I understand it now

[inland jetty]

one of my boards will be very annoying

[fluid ravine]

Weh?

Why

[inland jetty]

maximum clack, max loudness is what im going for. For gaming. For lack of a better word, I love hearing the agressive slamming of keys while i play. No diddy.

[kind helm]

i though he cool with plate foam

just not case foam

[scarlet barn]

not very long

but its a gift

and im trying to get that feel thats in alot of those "creamy" videos

pause...

[inland jetty]

id say watch actual 80he videos on youtube and sound tests here to get a more accurate readaing of what realistic sounds you can go for

[stone flax]

give up on creamy

we been saying

its foam

i can make 75 switches sound creamy

its literally just the rest of the build man

🧍‍♂️

https://youtu.be/rQRTelo38x4?t=12

i miss my neo

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[inland jetty]

creamy is just thoccy with more mid frequencies i bet xD or the other way around

[fluid ravine]

Is it not the other way around?

He doesn't seem to enjoy sound acoustic foam

For most of the vids I've seen

[stone flax]

alex never uses plate foams, but he does sometimes toss case foams in a board he wants to cut some sound out off

[fluid ravine]

Basically what people seem to think

[fluid ravine]

Ye

Polyfill gang

[stone flax]

leave it raw gang

[fluid ravine]

Ok ye fr

[stone flax]

[fluid ravine]

I only use polyfill if needed

[inland jetty]

disgusting thotccs 😂 jk jk

[stone flax]

dumpling ulx

[fluid ravine]

But damnit I gotta use the silicone for the friction pad

Am sadge

[fluid ravine]

Wheres the napkin?!

[inland jetty]

the ulx is the napkin

[kind helm]

what kinda of cursed creation is that

[fluid ravine]

U rite u rite

[fluid ravine]

Idk man
I would def eat that up

[kind helm]

black pepper on dumpling my china man brain is shaking right now

[inland jetty]

ulx and dumplings have the same durability ive heard

[stone flax]

[sacred elm]

that looks like khinkali but with less chromosomes

[inland jetty]

ur lucky no one is woke here atm lmfao

[stone flax]

why qwq

[flat cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-gif-23976170

[fluid ravine]

One piece of foam is all it takes..

[inland jetty]

nah, it never happens here, thank god but in some peripheral discords, they are extremely sensitive with those kinds of jokes. woke stuff, u know how it is

[stone flax]

I made my grandpa’s pacemaker thock!

[fluid ravine]

[green tusk]

has anyone here had experience custom creating keycaps using ABS / Resin printing?

[fluid ravine]

@scarlet barn this is what foam does

[stone flax]

i miss my pp plate

[fluid ravine]

In comparison this is the same build but without the foam

[stone flax]

fake!

This one has a keebmat

[scarlet barn]

i seee i appreciate this

[inland jetty]

it would clack even harder without it theoretically

[scarlet barn]

where did you get such foam

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

Forgot abt that

[inland jetty]

bro we need that thudding sound

[fluid ravine]

Nah actually it clacks harder with the keebmat

My glass desk gives the board some reverb so there's that bass on the bottom out without the keebmat

[harsh dove]

Nah you got it right the first time, it's loob

[fluid ravine]

Well it's just a sheet of PE foam

[inland jetty]

would have never noticed that was glass, pretty cool

[fluid ravine]

It's a type of sound modifier

[fluid ravine]

Yeee

[harsh dove]

Xinhais are clacky

[inland jetty]

i was assuming wood xD

[fluid ravine]

Ye ik but milktooth list on his website was placed as both so I was concerned and confused

[flat cobalt]

Is that a glass pad?

[harsh dove]

Yeah I saw lol

[fluid ravine]

I was like CHOOSE ONEEE

[fluid ravine]

LMAO white wood

[fluid ravine]

Yeth

Wallhack sp004

[jade storm]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[inland jetty]

well, "wood" (not solid, i forgot what these types of wood are called, the one that is pressed together as dust to create "wood")

[fluid ravine]

Oh yeah def don't know whatchu talking abt

Ok actually now I think abt it I may know what you're talking abt

[inland jetty]

particleboards and such

[fluid ravine]

Ah yup
Exactly what I was thinking

[inland jetty]

its what a lot of the cheap desks are made off

[stone flax]

poop

butcher block with legs>>

[inland jetty]

indeed

[stone flax]

[flat cobalt]

I should get my new foam for the 80he on Tuesday cause fuck that silicone stock one

[inland jetty]

at this point, just buy this from home depot and get a drill bit that can fit the height adjustor crank and u got urself a ghetto automatic adjustable desk

[fluid ravine]

LOL

[inland jetty]

speaking from experience lmfao. im not even kidding, i bought this for $100. Solid wood. u see that divider at the bottom? u can move that front or back as well. Funny as hell but man, it's better than spending way more for a decent long lasting adajustable desk. Durable as well, idk about the new ones being produced but mine has lasted 4 years so far and no sag, whatsoever.

[fluid ravine]

Whats this for?

[jade storm]

build your own desk thackson

butcher block + standing desk legs

that's what i think i'm going to do

[inland jetty]

im guessing for stability, i can remove it but i just decided to keep it. I have it installed at the back and i lay my feet there when using the desk. it's supposed to be a workbench they can put heavy thing on while adjusting the height of the desk as needed

im guessing they caught on and started noticing that people are buying it but not for workbench purposes as the price has tripled, it is now $300 lmao.

[fluid ravine]

Ic cus I have it on my desk as well

[fluid ravine]

LMAK

Idk why mine would need it but its there

[inland jetty]

i think its for stability, im assuming

[fluid ravine]

Yeah I suppose

Great way to zipetie my cables to the left side for my PC lol

[inland jetty]

i hide cables underneath it lmfao

[fluid ravine]

Cus my power surge thingy is all the way on the other side to my dads desk

[fluid ravine]

Yeah I can't do that sadly since desk made of glass

Cant drill holes

[inland jetty]

nah, the bar we were talking about

[fluid ravine]

O

Oh well then yeah I do the same

That's why there's zipties on it for me

[inland jetty]

whatever wires needs to be hidden that can be placed there or the left or right side of the desk post and it is convenient, i do it

[fluid ravine]

Yurr

[flat cobalt]

Oreos

[inland jetty]

crazy how expensive this desk is now lmao.

[fluid ravine]

My mic? 😭

[fluid ravine]

Nah fr-

Ay if it works it works

[inland jetty]

you see the tissues next to it

[fluid ravine]

OH

MY TRASH CAN LMAOOO

I didn't notice

Ye I was eating Oreo ice cream sandwich

[inland jetty]

thats creamy right there

[fluid ravine]

Ok-

[tawdry tree]

and didn’t think to share some with us? Pfft

[fluid ravine]

Youre reminding me how fat I am

2 T bone steak+mash potatoes+2 Oreo Ice Cream sandwiches for dinner

[tawdry tree]

mannnnnnn

[fluid ravine]

Yet I'm still built like a long ass stick

[inland jetty]

dawg, its my cheat day, i have like 3 hours left before its over and my good sir, im stuffing myself with some strawberry and pretzels and nutella 🤣

[fluid ravine]

STRAWBERRIESSSSS

I love strawberries

[inland jetty]

that with nutella is one of my favorite cheat meals

[fluid ravine]

Ill trade you Oreo iceream for some

Id die for strawberries

Loved them since day 1

Forever will

[inland jetty]

u got a deal if u airmail it, overnight shipping

[crimson sky]

💀is that bedrock

[kind helm]

yee or nah

probably end up being around 230 after shipping and tax

[flat cobalt]

Gundam switch

[kind helm]

idk i should look deeper into it honestly

haven't looked at mx for a long while

but i have a week to build this thing only, including shipping time

divinikey out of stock for the transparent one otherwise i dont even worry about this at all

[fluid ravine]

I play on Java DW
I was checking out a friends world on bedrock cus they only have it

[harsh dove]

Get HMX Cheese with those keycaps lol

[kind helm]

i would hoenstly do it for the meme if those are on swagkeys

i am trying to grab the whole build from there

anything you know that is on swagkey that is relatively deep + smooth and not much wobble?

i gonna hopefully try to make it foamless, but if it is too clacky i may pop some foam in there

[idle oar]

2 keycap sets?

That's a bit weird

anyways what is better, l45 or l60

decided on l45

[tawdry tree]

Trans lite is not a keycap set

[tawdry tree]

Neither, whichever is better for you specifically. ;)

[untold wigeon]

Whats the best keyboardd ?

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/playing-piano-kyle-landry-kyle-landry-piano-music-musician-gif-18401111

?

What are you looking for in a keyboard?

Gaming?

HE?

Sound?

[untold wigeon]

He

[tawdry tree]

Feature wise, Woot is still on top.

[untold wigeon]

What are the reliable brands?

[tawdry tree]

Wooting, Geonworks if you don’t mind assembling your own.

[sacred elm]

wooting, geonworks

[untold wigeon]

wab melgeek?

[tawdry tree]

Also fine but I wouldn’t say reliable just yet.

Definitely good boards though.

[flat cobalt]

Mad60

[tawdry tree]

🗣️🗣️

[wicked fable]

Has Wooting said when they are planning to add support for different switches?

[glacial wind]

? it already has it

you don't need to use lekkers in your wooting

[wicked fable]

If I use a 3.5mm travel switch, it incorrectly interprets the distance right?

[glacial wind]

no it correctly does it, the graphic doesn't update but it already does it

[wicked fable]

It squishes the curve to fit in 3.5mm right?

[glacial wind]

yes, but that's how it's supposed to happen

it fits the steps into however much it's supposed to fit into

[wicked fable]

So 0.4mm actuation is actually not 0.4mm actuation

[glacial wind]

yeah

so you're more asking graphically when will it update the side number you mean?

[sacred elm]

theyre adding switch selector soon

[wicked fable]

Not graphically

When they update it so 0.4mm is 0.4mm regardless of which switch

Rather than squishing the curve

[sacred elm]

they are working on it

[glacial wind]

that will come with switch selector, but honestly i'd never advise anyone to pick their sens based on an abitrary number

should be adjusting up and down anyway since deadzone and other factors change

[wicked fable]

I understand, it doesn't really bother me, but for a premium product they should have this feature y'know?

[glacial wind]

0.1 on one board isn't 0.1 on another board basically

[glacial wind]

yeah it's all been confirmed by simon as coming

[wicked fable]

Okay sweet

On that note

Geon Raw HE = best?

[glacial wind]

nah, but it's very good

best is relative to what people like

[wicked fable]

Noticeably better to Jades?

[glacial wind]

that depends on the person

tighter stem yes

[wicked fable]

I have Jades rn

But I feel like a stronger spring might feel better for me

So looking at 60g Raw He

[glacial wind]

up to you, you could also just change the springs for $5 or so

[wicked fable]

That is true

[tawdry tree]

400g springs better

😃👍

[wicked fable]

I want using my keyboard to be a forearm workout

[tawdry tree]

yeahhhhh that’s more like it!

[sacred elm]

Jade pros 💪

[tawdry tree]

400g jade pros 💪😃👍

[primal hound]

i might've disassembled the stab on my 80HE like 10 times now, cleaned the lube completely but it's still sticky when you press down on one side, i'm lost 😅

[tawdry tree]

Removed the pads?

[flat cobalt]

I don’t like how the stabs feel on mine as well

[idle oar]

to be honest i like ling63 alot but its overpriced

it is just sitting on my desk now i have the wooting

[inland jetty]

bois, im ready to graduate from the wooting lube kit (including brushes). Any recommendations for brushes/lube station

[primal hound]

yeah that helped... i tried wiping the lube off them but that hasn't helped either.. do you recommend the band aid mod or whatever it's called?

[tawdry tree]

No, definitely not. You’re getting stickiness with the stock stabs?

[primal hound]

i thought that's the the kool kids do :d

this one

[tawdry tree]

You don’t want any of that especially when you’re already experiencing stickiness. The stock pads are essentially that.

They’re more often the cause of stickiness rather than the solution for it.

[primal hound]

this is mostly for sound i imagine?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, it mutes the sound the stabs make when they hit the PCB.

[primal hound]

aight thanks, i'm not too knowledgeable in this, so forgive me for my dumb questions please :d

[tawdry tree]

Not dumb question at all!

Stickiness with the stock stabs after you’ve removed the pads is pretty odd though. If you’ve already disassembled them, I’d try cleaning the lube off of the bottom of the stem and the PCB one more time.

If both surfaces are void of lube, you shouldn’t experience any stickiness unless it’s more friction than stickiness.

It could also be the switch.

[kind helm]

it maybe related to the lube on the sides of the stem

and the inner walls of the stab housing

[tawdry tree]

Could be but if it’s only at bottom out, I’d say it’s pretty unlikely.

Possible though.

[kind helm]

yea i'd say in my experience mainly its cause is the lube on the pcb

that got squeezed out of the stab from pressing the key

[tawdry tree]

Yeah definitely

[wicked fable]

Hey guys is this cable meant to enable tachyon mode and 100% RGB brightness/effects?

Do I have to enable it or something? Tachyon mode still lowers brightness for me

[primal hound]

i relubed them just now and they feel great, thanks for the suggestion, i'd rather have nicer feeling stabs than a better sounding one :P

[kind helm]

there is a little lock thingy on the brightness bar

[wicked fable]

Oh what thank you lol

[kind helm]

not necessarily better sounding either. some people may even think using the bandaid is due to skill issue

[wicked fable]

RGB effects are always gonna be disabled tho right?

[tawdry tree]

It’s not even that the stabs sound bad without the pads, it’s just that you heard them. I’d only recommend pads if you’re going for an as quiet as possible build, otherwise they’re not worth it.

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

As long as Tachyon is enabled, no RGB fx.

[primal hound]

the only stabs i ever modded were those on both my hhkbs, they are also much different than the ones on the 80HE

[tawdry tree]

All popular stabs currently don’t need any modding, just a bit of lube, a slight tune and you’re good.

[high sphinx]

What foam are u getting ? And do you mean the foam tvat is between the pcb and the switch plate ?

[sick flare]

Hi

[flat cobalt]

Yeah not a fan of the white silicone that’s being used

[high sphinx]

Ah so what did you order instead ?

[high sphinx]

Oh i see i got the friction pad from wooting for my upcoming 60% build but is there some other friction pads available instead of wootings that i can try for the build ?

[flat cobalt]

I don’t know I’m sorry

[high sphinx]

Oh ok i know i also can just use one of those really big rubber rings to put around the whole keyboard

[flat cobalt]

I just used my 60he regularly never used the rubber ring thing or the friction mount sadly

[high sphinx]

Oh ok i gonna do venom build with friction mount

[kind helm]

any idea which one of these is the best? Not considering another website. Too lazy for that. I know owlab is decent but i think the other few maybe newer and improved?

[flat cobalt]

[tawdry tree]

SW Knight V2s are good but I haven’t used Owlab’s or those C3s.

[flat cobalt]

Those owl labs look sexy

[kind helm]

yea i have heard knight is good, but these simpliy says SW v2 so not sure if they are the same

[tawdry tree]

They look transparant, I can’t even see them. 😂😂

[tawdry tree]

I think so. I don’t think SW had other stabs.

[kind helm]

aye gonna give it a try

does the housing look about right

[tawdry tree]

Stem is a little different too.

[flat cobalt]

Gold wire

[kind helm]

owlab stab is decent but i think those exists like 2 years ago or something

am i going crazy or there is a like a plastic thingy in there

[high sphinx]

Swagkeys v2´s are the ones that came before the knight version there is a yourube vid where they get compared if u want i can search the vid for you

[kind helm]

thanks for the info, nah no need to search ❤️

[tawdry tree]

Interesting, I just checked and the housings of my V2s are that of the V1s in the picture.

[high sphinx]

Np i bought knight v2´s but i also was wondering what those swagkey v2´s were

[tawdry tree]

How you mean?

[kind helm]

i immediately don't like the c3 equalz stab

[high sphinx]

Yeah cause the housing of the swagkey v1 look the same as the swagkey knight v2

[kind helm]

or i just cope these, fck it. i have a set of these in my salvation right now and they are pretty good

the yikb stuff is the best for what I have experienced though, really just a bit of lube and it just works

the shipping from kbdfan unfortunately would be too long/ too expensive

[tawdry tree]

It just looks weird here but that’s in the plastic of the stem.

Not something in the stem itself.

[tawdry tree]

Where did you get this pic from by the way?

[kind helm]

yee i think it should be just like this the middle part maybe some weird reflection

[kind helm]

swagkeys' website

[tawdry tree]

It exactly like that, yeah.

[tawdry tree]

Weird.

It seems I got the V2 stems with the V1 housings then.

[kind helm]

the v2 housing supposedly according to their description "Housing design has changed to prevent the wire from popping out while taking out the keycaps"

ngl i dont understand how you pop out the wire from pulling the keycaps

[tawdry tree]

That happened exactly 0 times with my V1s and V2s lol

[high sphinx]

You have the swagkey knight stabs. But there is also the normal swagkey stabs those also had a v1 and v2 but the normal swagkey stabs are predecessor off the swagkey knight v1

[kind helm]

i cant even imagine how that would happen. like the stab is not wiggling when the key cap is being pulled, it should be secured by the screws. there is no force pushing the wire out

[high sphinx]

https://youtu.be/9INu7FLn02w?si=LrMHSzKTjnYSio-q

[calm pulsar]

got my ttc poms

they are so dry damn xd

and they feel rattly cause of that

[kind helm]

you meant you finally feel like picking them up

[calm pulsar]

in hand

[kind helm]

[tawdry tree]

Ohh, so the SW V2s are not SW Knight V2s.

[high sphinx]

Exactly

Swagkey v2 is older

[calm pulsar]

yeah, tbh it's cause I went to a dentist so I picked em up on the way home

[kind helm]

really? i thought they were supposed to be really tight and smooth