🔧│keyboard_modding

[ionic breach]

ya ofc

[prime orbit]

Expedited shipping

Should I be worrried?

[sacred elm]

no

[hollow heart]

do you keep your mode key as a mode key or change it to something else, and if you change it what is the layout you chose?

[sacred elm]

i have Home instead of Mode

[hollow heart]

whats home button do?

[hexed knot]

thoughts on Ace 60 pro?

[tawdry tree]

cheap but performance to price ratio is insanely good

[tawdry tree]

top of the page

and “end” the bottom

pg up/down is just scrolling

^ in websites, not in everything.

[hollow heart]

ty :)

[hexed knot]

ngl i got it and it doesn't feel like 0.125ms

it feels like more

[tame vessel]

How have folks found thock.film? I picked some up since they were on sale but I'm curious how it'll change the sound profile of like a jade or geon raw.

[hollow heart]

i would think you wouldnt be able to feel that speed

[hexed knot]

@tawdry tree

[hexed knot]

me?

[hollow heart]

yeah

like humans in general

[hexed knot]

idk

i feel it

i'm built diff

[tawdry tree]

from the reviews, and from 8KHz tests, it did great. true 8KHz. it could be placebo or maybe they’re cheapening out in new batches?

[hollow heart]

i mean technically speaking humans cant percieve that speed theroetically speaking

[hexed knot]

Idk didn't feel like 8khz tbh bro

[tawdry tree]

No need. Neither Jades nor Raws benefit from films

[hexed knot]

it's a scam i thinnk

[hollow heart]

but i feel you on that personally i think the feeling is placebo like he mentioned

[tawdry tree]

You probably can’t even get them in.

[hollow heart]

they wouldnt lie about that if anything your just realizing you cant notice those speeds.

[hexed knot]

how come my gk61 feels better tho

i see with my eyes

[tawdry tree]

You could test it, if you care. Or you can return it and get a different board.

[hollow heart]

which did you get first?

[hexed knot]

gk61

i upgraded it

[sacred elm]

@hexed knot check with Keyboard Inspector software

[tame vessel]

Ah thanks, I didn't expect any change really besides sound but if there isn't any benefit they'll just sit in a desk with my lekkers

[tawdry tree]

gk61 is a mech board

[hexed knot]

with 28g springs

i got optical yellows with 28g spring update

upgrade*

feels better than ace 60 pro

same speed

[tawdry tree]

for gaming, mech doesn’t even compete with HE regardless of how shit the HE board is

[hexed knot]

• easier to click

[high sphinx]

Venom on deltakey

[hexed knot]

try it

i'm not lying

[hollow heart]

your brain could be linking the feeling of the new board to speed so going from the gk61 to the new board doesnt feel different?

[hexed knot]

idk the ace 60 pro springs feel heavy to me

[tawdry tree]

Yeah there isn’t. I don’t think there are any films made that fit Lekkers properly even.

[hexed knot]

but idk what springs would match it

maybe if i lighten them i'd main it

[tawdry tree]

You know you can change the actuation point too right?

[hexed knot]

yh

[tawdry tree]

And you can swap the switches out.

[hexed knot]

doesn't matter tho

[sacred elm]

even with heavy springs you shouldnt feel that a good he keyboard is slower than gk61

[hexed knot]

well

it is

so it sucks

[sacred elm]

it is not

[hexed knot]

it is

[hollow heart]

mabye do some more tests?

[tawdry tree]

What actuation point are you on?

[hexed knot]

0.1

[hollow heart]

did you enable 8k hz in the software

[hexed knot]

maybe my pc can't handle 8khz

[hollow heart]

that wouldnt be the case

[tawdry tree]

If it feels slow, it might actually be a bad unit.

[hollow heart]

shouldnt be*

[sacred elm]

try other cable, lower rgb brightness, update firmware, test your keyboard polling/scan rate with Keyboard Inspector software

[hexed knot]

yh

[tawdry tree]

You notice the difference immediately.

[hexed knot]

ok

[hollow heart]

whats the latency on the computer on the game your playing too?

[hexed knot]

good

shafei

shafie

can i send the results?

[tawdry tree]

For 0.1 to feel slower than a mech board, the ace needs to have like 50ms of delay lol

[hexed knot]

of keyboard profile inspector

[sacred elm]

yes

[hexed knot]

this the upgraded gk61

ace 60 pro

[sacred elm]

mash your keyboard atleast 500 clicks, preferably with safe mode enabled

[hexed knot]

500 clicks?!

[sacred elm]

yes

[hexed knot]

how many types is that

🤣

[sacred elm]

dont just type, just mash it

[hexed knot]

oh

like

hit it

with my fist

does it have to be on safe mode?

[sacred elm]

yes with safe mode results will be cleaner because of less bs running in the background

[hexed knot]

ok

i try

500 clicks

yes?

[sacred elm]

yes atleast

[hexed knot]

how to type 500 clicks tho

[tawdry tree]

spam

[tropic urchin]

Just type like you’re Hipyo writing his return email to Wooting after his video

Angrier the better

[tawdry tree]

[hexed knot]

Lol

[sacred elm]

yea your gk61 is atrocious, there is no way it feels faster than he keyboard

[tawdry tree]

keyboard inspector can’t measure actual end to end latency tbf

I believe it if he says it feels slower but then there’s something really wrong with the board.

[sacred elm]

yea but it will show if the kb is actually an 8k

or not

[tawdry tree]

ofc

but it doesn’t really matter

it’s good to test still

[ionic breach]

his binning rate is at 4k

[hexed knot]

GK61

ACE 60 PRO

[polar girder]

I might try and risk it and order venom right when free shipping starts on Tuesday

Hope they don’t run out of stock

[hexed knot]

@sacred elm

[tawdry tree]

recommend was x4 right? so for 8khz 32k?

[sacred elm]

set binning rate to 16000

[hexed knot]

Again

Later

Add me as friend

I not docror

[sacred elm]

just type 16000 here

[tawdry tree]

everyone is waiting for that I think. it’ll be out of stock quite when the event drops

[tawdry tree]

wasn’t it 32k?

if you want to see 8k

[sacred elm]

32000 isnt needed

[hexed knot]

Shafie is best

[sacred elm]

gk61 result is a joke, what youre experiencing is probably a placebo.

just swap to light springs to lower your placebo

[hexed knot]

I need springs that match the ace 60 tho

[ionic breach]

16K binning is enuf

[sacred elm]

This is other users Ace 60 pro, you can compare to yours @hexed knot

[hexed knot]

What springs will match the Uranus SE

[ionic breach]

though all these tests sucks

best to go to rtings.com

[hexed knot]

I cant open it

[chilly mural]

9.9 on raw performance with 80he

[hexed knot]

Shafie dms?

[tawdry tree]

they’re good tests. just don’t test end to end latency.

[sacred elm]

go in keyboard inspector software, click file

[ionic breach]

as in they are just stats with no explanations

[tawdry tree]

you can join the server and post your results there. they’ll help you.

want an invite?

[ionic breach]

nah

no need

[sacred elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1299238883753594900/1315716357832314982/image.png?ex=677f5018&is=677dfe98&hm=2db2fa4e7f3ad7a882abab7f58327a1ffd0f2567db3e4b6a5833979907355729&

😳

[polar girder]

I’m ok with that. I’ll set an alarm lol

[chilly mural]

Clean

[polar girder]

The heck is that lol

[bleak knot]

I have a problem but don't know where to put it

[sacred elm]

@hexed knot just ask about springs here

[bleak knot]

My Wooting two HE desn't ligt up

[sacred elm]

not even 10 smh

[polar girder]

Nvm found it

https://github.com/mat1jaczyyy/Keyboard-Inspector/releases

[chilly mural]

Before 0.1mm actuation on a lekker.

[sacred elm]

yea this software is made by one of woot team members

[polar girder]

Sick

[tame vessel]

Other modding question, going to be drilling off the standoffs from my tofu60 since I'm either using the friction fit pad or the o-ring mount with a tape mod using scholl w/painter tape layer. Are there any standoffs I should leave in play?

[tawdry tree]

No LEDs at all?

[bleak knot]

nope

[tawdry tree]

Do you want an invite perhaps? 😁

[tawdry tree]

But it works fine?

[bleak knot]

Yeah

[hexed knot]

Can anyone send me springs to buy for Uranus SE magnetic switch

[bleak knot]

everything work fine all updated

[tawdry tree]

If you put it on low brightness, anything?

[bleak knot]

nothing it doesn't want to light up

[tawdry tree]

Why? Which springs are you looking for?

[hexed knot]

Light

Send me if you can 😂

[tawdry tree]

Hmm.

[tawdry tree]

I don’t have mine in yet so I don’t know if regular KS-20 compatible springs work.

[sacred elm]

@bleak knot do you have any rgb software running in the background? if so disable it

[tawdry tree]

They should be pretty light already though, why do you wanna swap them out?

Not light enough?

[hexed knot]

Yh

[bleak knot]

Not that I know of

[hexed knot]

I'm used to lighter

[bleak knot]

But hmmmm ... I figured it out

I think I pull on the cable a little bit too far

Sorry guys tks anyway 🙂

[sacred elm]

😳

[tawdry tree]

🔥🔥

[sacred elm]

https://wooting.io/product/lekker-spring-packs?Weight=Linear35

[hexed knot]

Will they match it?

[tawdry tree]

Again, I don’t have the Uranus switches in yet so I can’t confirm if these springs are compatible. They are compatible with the TTC KoMs though: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EQdw2f6

[hexed knot]

I want to buy springs but if they wont match i spent my money for nothing

[polar girder]

Do I need one?

[tawdry tree]

Then wait a bit. The switches are on their way to me.

[polar girder]

Make sure they’re non-magnetic or HE compatible

[chilly mural]

Noice

[tawdry tree]

You don’t. But if you want to test your boards as well it’s handy.

[polar girder]

Yeah I would use the software to test my keyboard

[chilly mural]

Waow

You're making me hungry

[hexed knot]

😂

Eat

[agile arrow]

yummy

[high sphinx]

I ordered my venom 60he and alu plate and i also ordered the tofu redux with brass weight and the friction pad from wooting i am so hyped

[tawdry tree]

friction pad will need to be slightly cut to be compatible with the venom but u knew that right?

the standoff locations are different

[high sphinx]

Yup yup i saw a video on yt that it has to be cut he did venom in optimum case with friction pad so i know i have to cut the space bar and at the enter key somewhere if i remember correctly but ty for letting me know regardless 😜

[tawdry tree]

did u get the 7U venom?

[high sphinx]

Nah i got 6.25

I like it

[tawdry tree]

Oh, then it should be just the standoffs I think

[high sphinx]

That i have to cut ?

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[high sphinx]

That would be nice

[tawdry tree]

I think having to cut space and backspace is for the 7U

version

[high sphinx]

Oh bec1use on the video i did see he was not cutting anything for standoffs only the space and the backspace thingy

[tawdry tree]

Hmm

[high sphinx]

https://youtu.be/iNBC9D23hjU?si=WGSMpJmYuZewiK9d

This is the video do you mind watching it for a sec ?

Just where he installs the pad

[tawdry tree]

Oh wtf

the standoffs do line up

😮

[high sphinx]

Yup

[tawdry tree]

yeah watching it rn

[high sphinx]

Ok ty man

[tawdry tree]

I wonder if they line up perfectly where you can use KBD’s plate for it

that’s made for Woot

[tawdry tree]

not that you’d need or want to, but just out of curiosity.

[high sphinx]

I ordered venom plate from deltakey do you think i need to cut the standoffs or should i be gucci ?

[tawdry tree]

No need to cut anything. The Venom plates don’t have standoffs themselves, just screws.

Basically the reverse of Wooting’s where the plate has standoffs and the PCB doesn’t.

For Venom the PCB has standoffs and the plate doesn’t.

[high sphinx]

Yeah but the spacebar and the backspace i have to cut right just loke in the video ?

[tawdry tree]

Oh you mean the friction pad. Yeah just the parts he cut.

[high sphinx]

Ok ty

[tawdry tree]

I thought the standoffs didn’t line up but they do. So that’s neat.

[high sphinx]

Yup i also have gmk evil dolch incomming and i chose the dark red tofu redux case i hope that build will be fire when finished

[tawdry tree]

for sure man, that’s a great combo

[high sphinx]

Yeah i am so hyped

[tawdry tree]

would love to see it when you get everything in

[high sphinx]

Yup i will post it here and i will tag u my friend i also got the brass weight for the redux 😀

@tawdry tree do you know if there is a wrist thingy for the tofu ?

[fallen pecan]

new hm specs, check the scan rates

all key 36k wasd 300k / all key 40k wasd 500k

[tawdry tree]

Not that I know of. The Wooting one fits pretty much perfectly though iirc.

[high sphinx]

Oh ok ty very much

[tawdry tree]

I never understood those numbers. It’s like a combination of the keys but doesn’t really make sense to me.

[hexed knot]

Aligner

[tawdry tree]

yessir

[hexed knot]

so you don't know for certain any light springs for

Uranuse SE

MAGNETIC SE

SWITCH

i need them for my future

also you guys say it's placebo but the gk61 is clearly better for me

i'm sorry to tell

[tawdry tree]

No. ‘Cause the TTC KoMs use a different size spring. KS-20 compatible springs still work in them but I can’t say for sure if that’ll be the case for the Uranus switches.

[hollow heart]

well than return the other one who cares abt specs if u clearly like one better

[sacred elm]

why wouldnt they work

just get wooting springs

[hexed knot]

i expected it to be better

[sacred elm]

L35 or whatever

[hexed knot]

unfortuantly i fucked up

[hollow heart]

for you is the important part

[tawdry tree]

It’s not placebo. You notice the difference between mech and HE on 0.1 instantly so if you don’t. Your board is fucked.

[hexed knot]

the size

maybe i got a

[tawdry tree]

^ @sacred elm

[hexed knot]

mal

how do you tpye it

maalfuncted

[sacred elm]

length doesnt matter

[hexed knot]

board

malfu

🤣

[tawdry tree]

Diameter..

[hexed knot]

the

width

[sacred elm]

it should be the same

[hexed knot]

i think i got a malfunctioed board

[tawdry tree]

Do you have them?

TTC KoMs aren’t the same hence my concern.

[tawdry tree]

I think so too.

[hexed knot]

bru

h

😢

[tawdry tree]

doesn’t make sense otherwise tbh

[sacred elm]

no I dont have ttc switches but I dont think they use springs with different width

[hexed knot]

idk it has input lag tbh

[tawdry tree]

They do……

[tawdry tree]

I’m not sure what the cause is. I haven’t seen it happen before.

[sacred elm]

L switches

[tawdry tree]

😂

[chilly mural]

uwu venom

[chilly mural]

usb polling is still 8k

[tawdry tree]

5.8mm for TTCs and 6.1mm for Gateron’s/Lekker’s

[hexed knot]

hi Shafie

your him

hi

@tawdry tree

i'm using optical not mechincal

Optical yellows

on the gk61

[fallen pecan]

are you trying to use uranus switches on an optical board?

[tawdry tree]

actuation point isn’t adjustable right?

[tawdry tree]

nah

[hexed knot]

no

[hexed knot]

no but it's 1

also with the 28g springs

it feels like 0.1

cause it's so light to press

and the response time is 0.2

or 0.1

idk

[tawdry tree]

then it doesn’t matter. 0.1 vs 1 is a crazy big difference

[hexed knot]

it does

the spring

changes the speed aswell

the actuation force

[tawdry tree]

it doesn’t matter that it’s optical rather than mech.

[hexed knot]

idk man

i wish you could test this out it's the besat

best

[tawdry tree]

It might actually be placebo

if you say it’s the best

placebo that improves the feel of 1mm so much that it feels better than 0.1 is insane tho

[harsh dove]

Wait what

[hexed knot]

bro i'm not kidding

🤣

or maybe i'm just a phsychopath

phsyicopath

[tawdry tree]

psychopath, yeah

[hexed knot]

psychopath

psychopath

why is it so hard to type

psychopath

[tawdry tree]

english is hard bro

[cyan lark]

Because our keyboards are bad.

[hexed knot]

🤣

i'm good at english just long words are annoying

[cyan lark]

You're well at english*

[hexed knot]

no

i suck

[tawdry tree]

Either way, it’s better to play on a keyboard that is worse but you feel like it’s better than on a keyboard that is better but you feel like is worse.

[hexed knot]

exactly

don't buy it

[tawdry tree]

😂

[sacred elm]

you probably received very bad unit, because rk61 is like 250hz keyboard

[cyan lark]

Young me playing on an ergo Microsoft keyboard could have wiped the floor with <redacted> age me using the best tech available.

[harsh dove]

What if what he feels is better actually feels worse but his brain thinks that it feeling worse is better than it feeling better cause it feeling better feels worse

[hexed knot]

Wtf

[fallen pecan]

inverse placebo

[hexed knot]

what if i feel worse of the better

of the better of the worse?

so the worse is the better

[tawdry tree]

🤯🤯🤯🤯

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[hexed knot]

hi cam

[harsh dove]

Wassup

[cyan lark]

I think I need to sit down after reading that.

[harsh dove]

[hexed knot]

super idol the show

[cyan lark]

I understand no part of this

[hexed knot]

ok

let me

ask you this

What is the correct password?

[fluid ravine]

Cam.
English

[hexed knot]

@harsh dove

hi

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/i-understand-it-now-ok-i-understand-it-now-i-understand-it-gurm-bear-gif-4859748791707698675

[harsh dove]

Bigsly gets it

It makes sense if you actually read it

Don't be racist, first and only warning

[hexed knot]

sorry

🤣

[fluid ravine]

It makes sense now

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-spiderman-meme-miles-morales-gif-6254393350946967855

I understand it now!

[teal rain]

Anyone got any idea why my space bar might be mushy and sticking down?

GEON Raw HE switches (factory lubed), stock stabilisers (unlubed)

It also happens with different space bars

[icy dew]

thats not good

[teal rain]

Also when I test out a single letter keycap on the switch, it’s fine. So I’m presuming it’s something to do with the stabs?

Would appreciate any help

[glacial shard]

stock stabs?

[teal rain]

Yup

[glacial shard]

Had same issue changed the stabs

👍

[teal rain]

What stabs did you change to?
This is my first build if I’m being honest

[glacial shard]

paigu stabilizers

[glacial shard]

https://www.amazon.com/KPREPUBLIC-Stabilizer-Gaming-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B0CWSD1CGT?th=1

[prime orbit]

5 days and no update other than my stuff is late

[glacial shard]

Probably going to buy these when I mod my new keyboard that I got

[glacial shard]

Wdym

[prime orbit]

Expedited shipping too

[glacial shard]

Trust good stabs 👍

[prime orbit]

I’d like my $4 back

[glacial shard]

They're shipping from China to a local facility

[prime orbit]

Huh

[teal rain]

The Type B for 1.2mm option? Is that what you bought?

[glacial shard]

Took days for it to get to there warehouse in Las Vegas

[prime orbit]

It was already in Vegas

Yeah but it’s been 4-5 days since it was in Vegas

I’m not upset or anything

Just funny the one time I pay for expedited shipping lol

[glacial shard]

I forgot which ones the wooting uses

I believe 1.2mm

@prime orbit you know?

Does the wooting use 1.2mm or 1.6mm

[prime orbit]

1.2

[glacial shard]

Thank You!

[teal rain]

Thank you very much, I’ll buy them and try it out

[glacial shard]

Welcome to the world of shipping

[prime orbit]

Last time they came early

And this time I only ordered 2 things lol

[glacial shard]

The only reason why I don't be expedited shipping

😭

[prime orbit]

Oh wait

[glacial shard]

What you order?

[prime orbit]

It’s 1.6

100% it’s 1.6

[glacial shard]

@rocky sequoia

[prime orbit]

@teal rain

[prime orbit]

New pc plate cracked it pulling out switches lmao and friction fit pad

[glacial shard]

Cooked 😭

[prime orbit]

Yessir 😭

Them geon raw he were stuck like a Mf

Also for stabs

[glacial shard]

@teal rain I don't know if it necessarily matters what mm you get I might be dumb and there's definitely a reason

[prime orbit]

I was recommended getting screw in ones

Because it’s better stability

[glacial shard]

Ah

[prime orbit]

And yeah if he gets 1.2 there might be fitting issues

I believe

1.6 is for the 60he+ if he has that?

[glacial shard]

@teal rain

[prime orbit]

Oh yeah I saw he vid up there

Def 1.6

Hopefully he sees this before buying 💀

[glacial shard]

I heard alot of good talk about the Paigu stabs

https://www.amazon.com/KPREPUBLIC-Stabilizer-Gaming-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B0CWSF6GN9?th=1

These are 1.6

[prime orbit]

The stabs I want aren’t even in production yet Sadge

I heard those were good

Then the knight v2 ones

And tx ap

[glacial shard]

Those I tried but don't like em

Idk

[prime orbit]

Which version?

Clip

[glacial shard]

V2

[prime orbit]

Or screw

[glacial shard]

I think clip

[prime orbit]

Gotcha

Yeah I’m still deciding which one I want

[polar girder]

Which

[prime orbit]

Lowk forgot the name but everyone in here talked about them. They gave some type of new design never seen before. Making them the “best” when they come out

[glacial shard]

@teal rain

Come back

😧

[teal rain]

are the paigu stabs screw in or clip in?

also i saw about the 1.6

[polar girder]

The norbauer ones?

[teal rain]

clip in i think

[polar girder]

Dammmnn

[glacial shard]

Yeah clip in

But I don't think that the board supports screw in

Only clip

Don't quote me on it

[teal rain]

In my ignorance, what is the difference between the stab-A and stab-B option?

[prime orbit]

Yup!

[glacial shard]

https://www.amazon.com/KPREPUBLIC-Stabilizer-Gaming-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B0CWSF6GN9?th=1

[prime orbit]

Lewis

[glacial shard]

These are 1.6

[prime orbit]

Do you have 60he or 60he+ board

[teal rain]

he+

[prime orbit]

Get screw in

Screw in works for that

Clip on top

In too

If you want to try the clip in first ofc do it!

Screw in will offer more stability even if it’s by a little bit

[prime orbit]

They aren’t set to come out for years last time I heard lol

[glacial shard]

If you want I can find good screw in stabs

But those stabs are good too

[teal rain]

I'm just unsure what stabilisers I should get due to my switches, because I'm sure they have a different travel distance from regular lekker

[glacial shard]

1.6mm

Clip in or screw in clip in slightly cheaper than screw in stabs

[teal rain]

ahh, is 1.6mm what's meant by longer stabs?

because ive seen people talk about needing longer stabs for these switches

[glacial shard]

Yeah

The wire is thicker

[teal rain]

well what are popular screw in stabs? I'll probably just get screw ins

[fickle rock]

@violet fulcrum Hi i have few question about your mod can i mp you ?

[violet fulcrum]

Sure

[glacial shard]

https://www.amazon.com/Gateron-V2-Stabilizers-Stabilizer-Stab/dp/B0BV2CKDJW/ref=sr_1_8?crid=1CD97JIYP0QTL&s=electronics&sprefix=1.6mm%2Bscrew%2Bin%2Bstabilizers%2B%2Celectronics%2C203&sr=1-8&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/GATERON-V2-Pro-Stabilizer-Stab/dp/B0CYH5TLYJ/ref=sr_1_13?crid=1CD97JIYP0QTL&s=electronics&sprefix=1.6mm+screw+in+stabilizers+%2Celectronics%2C203&sr=1-13

For the clear V2's I can't see where they mention its 1.6mm

[polar girder]

No

1.6 vs 1.2 is PCB thickness

Wooting is 1.6

[teal rain]

yeah I think I need long pole stems for these switches

[polar girder]

Long pole or normal is depending on the switch

[sacred elm]

not really

[high sphinx]

@harsh dove do you know if i can use usb c to usb c cable for the venom ? Or does it have to be usb c to regular usb ?

[sacred elm]

fix your stabs first before buying new ones

[teal rain]

well how am I meant to fix them

[stone flax]

what are people confused about stabs

[polar girder]

lol

Much confusion

[stone flax]

knights v2 and yikb on top

[polar girder]

I haven’t been paying enough attention to know why tho

[prime orbit]

knights are basically sold out everywhere tho

only problem

[stone flax]

then get yikb

[prime orbit]

ye

[teal rain]

It's all started from an issue with my spacebar

[stone flax]

theyre the only expensive stabs that are good

[prime orbit]

i was gonna say that okay

}LMAO

[teal rain]

if you scroll up you can see

[stone flax]

otherwise get cherry + wires or another adaptive stab

jwk

paigu

[sacred elm]

disassemble it, check if the wire is seated properly in the holes

why are you instantly buying new ones

[teal rain]

because I didn't know the issue, and I was asking for help

[stone flax]

1.6

dont listen to the guy who said 1.2

[polar girder]

Always the best choice

[sacred elm]

no

[polar girder]

Yeah

[stone flax]

scam pricing for a set of paigus icl

but its amazon so thats a bit expected

[prime orbit]

i fixed my answer.......................

almost insantly

sadge

[tropic urchin]

Gold wire best wire

[high sphinx]

Hey guys do you know the mchose ace 60 pro keyboard ?

[sacred elm]

yea pretty good budget he keyboard

[sacred elm]

goonworks

[chilly mural]

looks alright, not sure about the software tho

[high sphinx]

The reviewer i watched said it has 0.125 latency and 32k scanning rate with 8k polling rate does that not make it one of the fastest keyboards then ?

[high sphinx]

Sadly i can not re1d that language but so the info is fake they say it is ?

[chilly mural]

technically not the fastest but comparable with 80he at least

[modest wave]

Brass plate + MLV + SW long pole + Jade max cleaned and relubed

[chilly mural]

question now is software support, but the keyboard is soo cheap you prop ending up just replacing in the future

[high sphinx]

Oh ok ty also i ordered the venom 60he and do you know if i can use usb c to usb c or does it have to be usb c to normal usb ?

[chilly mural]

Both is possible

usb C is usb

[tropic urchin]

Extra points for being unique

[modest wave]

Turned out amazing. Sounds exactly how I wanted.. Marbly, thocky and muted

[high sphinx]

Ok ty the picture u got is that from any database ?

[chilly mural]

https://m.eyejokerdb.com/키보드

[high sphinx]

Ty

[chilly mural]

best place to look at keeb

glad to see competition is catching up, now gonna see what wooting gonna do about this

[high sphinx]

Yup

[high sphinx]

Also for the database os there an easy way to translate it ?

[sacred elm]

They said that they will keep improving with firmware updates.

But latency is so small already in top HE keyboards it doesnt really matter

[polar girder]

How

[stone flax]

so will other companies

💪

[sacred elm]

Not very shocking

[chilly mural]

I just look at this, see how low the numner is and see if there's 2 rainbow or not. If there's 2 rainbow, it's prop good.

[high sphinx]

Oh ok ty appreciate it

[chilly mural]

make the base scanrate to be 3k and I'll be happy. But that's just my wish, me just wanna more good QOL update.

[sacred elm]

3k without tachyon?

[chilly mural]

yep

[sacred elm]

Yea I can see them improving scan rate

but does it matter? no

[chilly mural]

that's why it's just a wish, and besides wanting more rgb effect with the light bar, I'm pretty happy already with the 80he

[sacred elm]

Im waiting for switch selector/0.1rt firmware update

surely they will release it soon

they said they are collecting data on switches

[polar girder]

Geon?

[sacred elm]

Wooting

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

[polar girder]

Oh I thought they already did that

[modest wave]

MLV reduced all clack from the brass plate

[polar girder]

nice

[teal rain]

@sacred elm just wanted to say thanks for suggesting taking the stabs apart, that fixed it.
I know it might have seemed obvious to you, but I'm new to this. Thanks!

[tame vessel]

Ooohh I'll have to give MLV a go

[next moat]

what keycaps should i get

[orchid folio]

isnt that the most personal choice to make

[next moat]

.....

like

i need ideas man idk where a good place to shop is

[orchid folio]

i could only tell you websites for europe not sure if thatd help you

[tame vessel]

Where to buy is location dependent

[next moat]

yeah im na

[orchid folio]

kbdfans i guess?

x)

[tame vessel]

Is the concern finding a reputable seller to avoid scams or like brands?

[next moat]

yeah i kinda just dont want shit keycaps yk

like keycaps that will look the same as they are in the picture

[tame vessel]

Fair, most are generally okay. Big brand name ones are GMK but that's costly.

I think kineticlabs have decent cheaper ones that won't cost an arm and a leg, but I'm sure there are folks who have more k owledge. I've only gotten a gmk set

[stone flax]

?

[stone flax]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

stuff like

omnitype

novelkeys

divinikey

bowl

etc

if ur canada

deskhero

[next moat]

thanks man

ur a huge help

[polar girder]

mj rn: 👉👈 UwU

[silk hound]

you are welcome

[sacred elm]

Glad its fixed

[stone flax]

~<

[polar girder]

🕵🏻‍♂️

[uneven thunder]

Should I go with geon raws or jade pros?

[stone flax]

do you care about rgb

[uneven thunder]

Not really

[stone flax]

do you care about weight options

[uneven thunder]

As long as they aren’t heavier as the leaker switches that come with the 60he

[harsh dove]

You're welcome

[stone flax]

Raws offer 40g and 50g, jade pros are only 50g

[opaque holly]

someone can suggest any free mod to do on my wooting 60he ty

[stone flax]

balance ur stabilizer wires if they tick

[uneven thunder]

Which would you recommend more?

[polar girder]

It’s preference bro

I like light

So I only want Raw 40g

[stone flax]

Preference in spring length

[polar girder]

Some like heavy

Yeah and 15mm vs 20mm springs

I think pro are 20mm

I kind of want to buy Jade pro just for springs NGL

I wish the Geon HE pingless springs were 20mm

[uneven thunder]

Honestly I’m not too knowledgeable about them

[polar girder]

I want 35g 22mm gold spring

[opaque holly]

done it before

[stone flax]

longer springs feel heavier at the top

also have a snappier return

[uneven thunder]

I guess longer then

[sacred elm]

Get jade pros if you dont care about rgb

[stone flax]

jade pros feel heavier than raws at the top

[uneven thunder]

So harder to press down?

[stone flax]

initially ye

[sacred elm]

It wont feel as heavy as L60

[stone flax]

50g bottom at 3.4mm will feel similar as 60g bottom out at 4.1mm

similar amount of force just that the distance is cut before bottoming out

[uneven thunder]

Mmm

If it won’t feel as heavy as L60 then I’d be good with longer springs

[polar girder]

Yeah they make them for MX not HE yet tho

Is it just me or does that look like the shittiest sprig ever?

Curious to try tho

[cyan lark]

Doesn't look creamy at all.

I dunno, they look pretty similar to the ones in switches I've opened.

[polar girder]

Oh really? Ok maybe I’ll try

I have too many springs

But also not enough

I think 35g 20mm might be> 40g 15mm tho for me

Fk me

Yeah this is what I’m rocking now and they’re pretty mid

[untold wigeon]

i need a bigger enter key for my ansi layout keyboard

sacrificing the backslash and even the right shift

[stone flax]

get a BAE

[untold wigeon]

whats that

[marsh saffron]

Big ass enter

[untold wigeon]

where do i get it?

[marsh saffron]

Unsure

[cyan lark]

https://geon.works/products/gmk-cyl-bae-addon-kits 🤷 I just googled

[visual ore]

Enter keys?

[kind helm]

how does one join voice chat while on alu plate without getting roasted? i can see my little transparent avatar flashing green every time i type

[stone flax]

Big ass enter

[kind helm]

i kinda feel like getting a pom plate for tofu and a pp for salvation at some point, i have the file for the standard one for salvation, still have to ask someone for the file for tofu. thats gonna be 100 dolla again

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[harsh dove]

You don’t need plate files for the salvation and tofu? Can just use regular plates

Unless I’m misunderstanding

[kind helm]

7U venom, think screw holes be special

[harsh dove]

Oh my bad yeah

You do then

Honestly, remembering that makes me want a Venom less

[kind helm]

xD

[harsh dove]

Cause I have so many parts that are Wooting compatible

Getting a venom is like a whole nother investment

Can’t use like any of my parts

Lame

[kind helm]

a little bit, also its like 7U takes a bit of time adjusting

[polar girder]

Could get a 6.25u venom

[harsh dove]

Yeah that’s just pointless

[kind helm]

i dont really feel like switching between the 2

[harsh dove]

lol

[polar girder]

lol

[harsh dove]

Whole point to getting one would be for the 7u

If ima get 6.25 , just stay with Wooting

[kind helm]

unless...

leggra

gummy oring mount he? would you like you try mr cam?

[cyan lark]

Mic arm, dynamic mic, angle it away from keyboard.

[harsh dove]

Still need special plates tho

[cyan lark]

Get up close to that thang and turn the gain down.

[kind helm]

yea i think i have to set it up in a way similar to cam's

my mic is pretty close to keyboard at the moment

[polar girder]

Yeah I’m not excited to rebuild frog ngl

Have four useless plates sitting

[harsh dove]

Yeah if you have a condenser mic then it’s really gonna pick up that keyboard

[kind helm]

you still have the pcb, so you know just whatever you feel like switching

i think frog should be a bit nicer to build compare to the bowl on tofu

[polar girder]

I don’t want two PCB

[kind helm]

that thing falls aside so easily

[polar girder]

If I get venom I sell Wooting

Then probably sell Wooting in plastic case and give away Wooting/frog plates

Idk

[kind helm]

Do you essentially pull the mic 1. further from the keyboard, 2. closer to you?

[harsh dove]

When I’m not recording keyboards? Like using it myself?

[polar girder]

Pull the mic from the mic?

[harsh dove]

I knew what he meant lol

[kind helm]

i just woke up

i need some coffee

[kind helm]

using it yourself like streaming or whatever

[harsh dove]

But when I’m using it myself it’s about 6” inches from my face and my keyboard is essentially behind my microphone

[kind helm]

mine is like this rn

[cyan lark]

Yeah 2-4" for me while chatting

[harsh dove]

Yeah mines more like TuringTest

[kind helm]

guess i should probably find the pop filter and put it back on there too

[harsh dove]

Yeah it can help with "P" words n stuff

idk how much it'll help with keyboard but maybe

[kind helm]

mainly i was thinking if i gonna put it closer towards me its gonna go crazy without pop filter

[harsh dove]

You'll probably have to reduce gain , move it closer to you, and/or use a Noise Gate or Compressor and Expander

[kind helm]

yea

gud tips, thanks gents

[cyan lark]

Yeah I needed a pop filter, not skilled enough avoiding it myself like I'm supposed to

[kind helm]

i kinda hope pom would be like a toned down version of alu

maybe just wishful thinkin :3

alu's sound is just so full and rich in a way i am really enjoying it

[fluid ravine]

I would take it off for keyboard tbh

Cus it kinda dampens the sound profile when recording, prob just me

My windscreen thick af

[kind helm]

feel the same

[fluid ravine]

?

[kind helm]

that is why i left mine like that

[fluid ravine]

Wait wut

I'm lost

[kind helm]

the pop filter no?

[fluid ravine]

Yea?

[kind helm]

dampens the sound when recording

[cyan lark]

You gotta do some room noise reduction in Audacity before you worry about that IMO

(or in the room itself, if possible)

[kind helm]

i have carpet and thick boi curtain

[cyan lark]

Take some extra room noise sample before/after and use it to do some noise reduction, I think you'll be impressed.

[kind helm]

interesting

never messed with that for recording but i messed with that when handling dataset

[cyan lark]

It's data/turtles all the way down, my friend.

[kind helm]

[fluid ravine]

Yeah when I record sound tests I turn off everything in my living room cus I can't really treat my room since my living room is connected to the kitchen and dining room so everything is open

[vague stag]

quick question, does anyone have a mode sonnet? if so, have you ever experienced the PCB bottoming out against the lower case? IF yes to both questions how did you solve it?

[kind helm]

i dont have sonnet but the pcb is screwed to the top like this, no?

[vague stag]

thats the only way I could solve it, but the mode sonnet 2024 have the lattice blocks - and when using that mounting style, it bottoms out

[cyan lark]

My office is quiet but untreated and all the surfaces are very reflective, so I have to do noise reduction in post or it's not terribly pleasant. Not awful but it's easy enough to clean up.

[kind helm]

do you tape the walls with foam?

i kinda want to do more for my apartment but i am not sure if i can use adhesive on walls

[cyan lark]

No dampening in the room to speak of

[kind helm]

oh in post

i thought you just decorated some stuff in your office

my room was really echoy without the carpet and curtain, but once some clusters are in it is much better

[polar girder]

He just said he agrees with you and you got confused?

[kind helm]

do they have like a more stiff variant? maybe you can try that

[vague stag]

yeah they do, tried that - still the same issue

I have made a ticket to Modes support. Awaiting their response, just wanted to check if anybody else had experienced the same thing while I am waiting

[fluid ravine]

Hey man I just got out of skool

My brain fried

[cyan lark]

@kind helm Quick example

[night atlas]

is there any way to fix stem wobble? I'm assuming no, but curious if anyone may have an answer lol

I have it specifically on my WASD keys, presumably because those are used the most often

all switches (WS Dash) have been hand lubed.

[cyan lark]

I don't think there's much you can do outside of use different switches

[rough hornet]

I need KBDfans Standoff Silicone Cover but I live in eu and I’m not paying 17 euros for shipping on a 1 euro item

[little glen]

try their aliexpress store

and buy some geon raw he switches while you're at it

[rough hornet]

Bro I’m not buying from Aliexpress

I’m just saying are there alternatives

[little glen]

the kbdfans store on aliexpress is just a different storefront for kbdfans

that uses aliexpress shipping so it's way cheap for EU customers

i bought my switches that way, no problem at all

[rough hornet]

Ye but I’m not giving my credit card info to Aliexpress

[flat cobalt]

Wish the stabilizers were black but okay

[kind helm]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1173784544529363034

[little glen]

they're not gonna steal your shit, if they do, they will have a lot more problems to deal with than it's worth it for them

[glacial shard]

True 😭

[glacial shard]

OH YOU'RE RIGHT 😭 I forgot it was pcb thickness

[reef oar]

it's not temu or wish, you're fine

[tropic urchin]

You’re not giving them your debit card or anything special, you can easily cancel your CC or dispute if something shady happens (which it won’t)

If you’re worried about China having your info, they probably already do so it’s kinda a moot point imo.

[reef oar]

ong, i been saying this for so long

they ALREADY have all your shit

[tropic urchin]

If you have TikTok they already have it, if you don’t they prob already hacked your gov’t’s shit anyway

[little glen]

for a deeper sound use lekker v2

[tropic urchin]

Worrying about it is just not really productive

[little glen]

for a better sound is another question

[reef oar]

i feel like it's so neglegible that i'd care about other factors instead

[little glen]

so you want the one with deeper sound between jade pro and geon raw he?

[reef oar]

i have jade pros and i'll advocate for them but i haven't tired raws

raws are also quite cheaper than jade pros

[little glen]

raws also good

[tropic urchin]

Pros will probably be a little deeper but it’ll still be decently bright/clacky, I’d say they have a little fuller sound, but everyone will have their own opinions on that

[little glen]

i have them

[modest wave]

Oh btw.. No issues with Jade Max here. First day, I'll keep ya'll updated

[reef oar]

sounds good

i think it's easier to notice the max problem is by pressing your finger down at an angle

[modest wave]

Brass plate form ALIEXPRESS, SW dark knight long pole stabs. JAde max cleaned and relubed. MLV + stock gasket. MT3 caps

[little glen]

when i heard the first few sounds i was scared for your keyboard

[modest wave]

No issues hitting angles for me

[little glen]

but that was probably your mouse right

[modest wave]

literally no issues

[reef oar]

maybe you got a fixed batch

[modest wave]

MT3 caps are tall and still no issues

[reef oar]

i heard they fixed it but i also heard that people buying them still had the issue anyway

i'll believe you though

[modest wave]

I spent a lot of time cleaning and relubing

feels good.

[glass comet]

1.6mm tx ap long pole stabs fit the 60he+ right

screw in too if it matters

[modest wave]

yes

[inland jetty]

were you the guy who ordered jad maxes but didnt know about the issues the other day?

[modest wave]

I don't know if I was the guy but I had a few conversations here with members here

[inland jetty]

regardless, im glad yours worked out/ you are happy with it. Thats all that matters

[sick minnow]

Also looking for a usb cable that matches

Any good keycaps can you recommend me for this bad boy

[modest wave]

@inland jetty I think that for people looking for plug and play... it's not worth the money. I don't think it is worth it for the money to have to clean and relube all the switches.. I like to tinker with shit AND I bought them for a massive discount. So, for me, as a hobby, it was worth it

[flat cobalt]

@sacred elm have to go to work only had 30 minutes to swap out the plate

[little glen]

i would love to hear a sound test when you're back

[inland jetty]

yeah, most plug and play users wont bother with lubbing at all, they just want to buy everything pre built mostly and buy the switches and install them at the very most if necessary.

[flat cobalt]

I’ll try

[little glen]

that cf plate does look really great tho

that alone might make me consider buying it haha

[inland jetty]

welcome to the church ❤️

[modest wave]

That's an FR4 plate

[tropic urchin]

I don’t believe that’s CF, CF has a very textured design to it

[inland jetty]

he doesnt know that

[cyan lark]

Those hot red ones jed got

[inland jetty]

let him buy it 👀 . let the cult grow

[tropic urchin]

It’ll look similar to this if you get one

[little glen]

ah yeah fr4

[modest wave]

I installed the FR4 plate on mine before the brass and the brass won me over

[little glen]

i'm slightly delirious atm dont mind my ramblings

[modest wave]

Something about the brass with MLV sounded like love

[little glen]

idk why but those keycaps look like they're from a videogame in that picture

[inland jetty]

apologies, we have an inside joke going on here about people very passionate about carbon fiber plate. Youre more than welcome to join the church

[cyan lark]

No you're absolutely right. They look cel shaded.

[flat cobalt]

This one is FR4

[cyan lark]

It's the clear coat top layer on 'em I think

[little glen]

ye i realised by now

[little glen]

did you have flash on?

[inland jetty]

iphone effects i believe according to jed

unless thats not jed's

[cyan lark]

Not my pic, it's @glacial wind 's

[little glen]

oh that could be processing weirdness

[inland jetty]

it looks like that gearbox game

[little glen]

but yeah looks super cel shaded haha

[inland jetty]

borderlands

[cyan lark]

Right, which uses cel shading

Is someone else joining the CF cult?

crew*

[sick minnow]

That’s to red for me lol

[inland jetty]

dude im getting one for my 60he after trying jades tray mounted

😂

[cyan lark]

Just slow rolling your way to KoM + CF

[inland jetty]

so both my 80he and 60he will have cf plates lmfao

[cyan lark]

Oh dang

[inland jetty]

just waiting for the sale my friend 😂

[cyan lark]

Are you looking for KoM POM or regular?

[inland jetty]

depending on which is louder.

[cyan lark]

I think it's more of a pitch difference. Pom is a bit lower.

[inland jetty]

thats annoying, that means id need to get both to see what would be more annoying for my build

[little glen]

man i really gotta stop looking at keyboard modding stuff i need to buy a gpu next month

[inland jetty]

are you buying a 5000 series sir?

[little glen]

i hope so

if i cant get a 5070 (ti) i will probably go for a used 4080super or something

[cyan lark]

I ask cause if you're interested I may be able to part ways w/ my KoMs at a reasonable price. Assuming you're in the US for reasonable shipping.

[little glen]

anyway, yall almost made go and buy more keyboard gear

[inland jetty]

i know it sounds like im trolling but I genuinely am loving the just he loud, agressive sound, especially when gaming at the moment atm

[little glen]

i already almost bought a venomhe cause i saw it on deltakeyco

[inland jetty]

do you care about ray tracing?

[little glen]

i care about all the other features nvidia ships with their cards

[inland jetty]

consider the ram as well, if you are more into triple a/demanding games/ray tracing etc

[little glen]

but yeah anyway i need to stop looking at this chat, y'all already made me buy artisan caps for gmk cosmos

[cyan lark]

Do an all artisan build

[inland jetty]

LMAO

what a great idea!

[little glen]

i would rather pay off my student loans

[cyan lark]

Ew, nerd. Smart.

@inland jetty ICYMI #🔧│keyboard_modding message HMU if you are interested

[inland jetty]

see, you gotta listen to jensen here man. Say it with me, the more you buy, the more you save!

[little glen]

you are making an awful lot of sense

[modest wave]

LOL

[little glen]

i should buy new stabs

and a new plate

maybe they will come in time for my gt-80

[modest wave]

I have a FR4 plate for sale

full toronto kit

lol

[inland jetty]

exactly! student loans just keep growing from tax even when you pay them monthly. It's bad to pay them 🤣

[little glen]

nah, but for real tho i might get some cheap modding supplies for tape mod and maybe some poly fill

[cyan lark]

FR4 wasn't for you?

[modest wave]

nope

it sounded nice

[little glen]

whats the sound profile of it

[modest wave]

but I fell in love with the brass

[little glen]

[cyan lark]

Oh brass balls, nice.

[little glen]

i am currently on raw he and really like ti

[modest wave]

Brass just hits different and it types realy nice without the bounce

[hybrid cairn]

all the lights in my lightbar are slightly diff colors, im using a close to white color but is it supposed to be like that?

[little glen]

brass plate looks fancy

[inland jetty]

thats pretty man

[cyan lark]

They shouldn't be worlds apart, no.

I'm partial to the CF look 🙂

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/meu-gif-27420939

[cyan lark]

Just too bad it absolutely gobbles light up

[inland jetty]

we're growing a cult here, you cant say these things, theyll have you whacked

[modest wave]

The brass plate added like 500g I swear

[tropic urchin]

That’s only if you don’t say geonworks around these parts

[cyan lark]

That message was for the guy w/ lightbar color issues. Plates do make a diff.

[modest wave]

How much does a stock 80he weigh in a zinc?

[cyan lark]

It's on the site

[hybrid cairn]

uhhh

[little glen]

that reminds me of that one csgo skin i had like 10 years ago

carbon fiber sniper rifle

[cyan lark]

White's also a tricky color to nail down across the board

Cause all LEDs are gonna be a bit different, so you're hoping that a bunch all look the same in a row right next to each other.

Always seems like it's the red levels that are a bit off and by varying amounts

[hybrid cairn]

but compared to the keys

like

its way off

i got me a worm man

[inland jetty]

its like those meal worms they feed to pets

[hybrid cairn]

fr bro, is this like expected or is my module cooked???

the hex is #d2ffdc, can some of yall try it and see if its like that for you too?

[inland jetty]

this. It might vary per board. who knows. Let me try on mine.

😂 damn brotha

[hybrid cairn]

whats the news doc?

[inland jetty]

thats not white

[hybrid cairn]

ik but on the board it is

if you do rgb 255 255 255 the color isnt as c;ose tpo whte as mine is

[inland jetty]

alright, ur right i tried it, you might be unlucky xD

[hybrid cairn]

lemme see ur barrrrrr

[inland jetty]

my bad i searched on google first but once i put it on the rgb thing, it's white LMFAO

[hybrid cairn]

lower the exposure / brightness tho

[inland jetty]

but it is on 60%

[hybrid cairn]

??????

oh yeah m,y color

all good man

[inland jetty]

yeah, i searched it first, mb

[hybrid cairn]

but the bar is the issue

[hybrid cairn]

alg bro

do u have a worm tho

on ur 80he

[icy dew]

I was taking a look at my Jade pros, and I was wondering how the top housing goes together

[inland jetty]

thats what im saying, ur unlucky xD

[little glen]

i kinda wanna get some storage trays for my keycaps

[icy dew]

There's seemingly no indication of where it should be facing

[little glen]

idk how long the gmk trays take to disintegrate

[hybrid cairn]

show me a pic of ur bar man but at like 50% brightness, i gta compare

[hybrid cairn]

js click em together and call it a day frfr

[inland jetty]

it looks weird on the picture

[hybrid cairn]

AGHHHHHHHHHHH

[cyan lark]

Yeah I dunno how to get a reasonable shot of it

[inland jetty]

there u go, i guess ur camera has no effects at all, mine kinda looks like a worm as shown on the pic but irl, it looks more like @cyan lark