🔧│keyboard_modding

[old sapphire]

I dont understand people who purchase the holy60 when the 60 tofu redux is 1000% better

[tawdry tree]

The Tofu60 looks like a block of Alu which it is.

The Holy has some character to it

[stone flax]

i dont understand people who purchase the tofu 60 redux when the frog mini leggera is 1000% better

[old sapphire]

If you like spider web cum case go ahead

[tawdry tree]

I like the spiderweb cum case

[old sapphire]

😂

[old sapphire]

Never heard of that bloat case

[stone flax]

?

skill issue

[tawdry tree]

if you’re deaf you don’t hear much

[old sapphire]

Looks like a bloatware. @mj @tawdry tree

[tawdry tree]

I agree

[old sapphire]

We got a smart individual right here

[stone flax]

yeah sure

[kind helm]

is it out already?

[stone flax]

it should be

[kind helm]

I was happy for a moment when i saw it says in stock

[stone flax]

but cbbc said its bloatware

so geon delayed it

to patch out the bloat

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, that happens a lot. “In-Stock” just means that it isn’t a preorder or gb

[polar girder]

Accessibility and awareness

Can’t hold that against people

[stone flax]

But then he called leggera bloatware

[shut adder]

what is the best PCB for me to assemble a custom keyboard with the Gateron Jaden Gaming Magnetic Switches?

[polar girder]

lol MJ just pretend like you didn’t see that

[stone flax]

Jade gamings pretty bad

[shut adder]

What is the best magnetic switch then?

[stone flax]

raw he, jade pros - sound feel

[kind helm]

imagine if they secretly make a new batch

[stone flax]

ttc kom, poms, kom rgb - stability w/ box stem design

[shut adder]

can u send me the link?

[shut adder]

Are all magnetic swtich configurable to the pressure I put on it?

[stone flax]

ye

[old sapphire]

Well it is your blind

[shut adder]

What is the best of these in your opinion then?

[stone flax]

bro uses a tofu redux and thinks thats all there is

[old sapphire]

I'm trolling you guys get whatever you want Mr mj got butt hurt

[stone flax]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-used-to-be-believable-baited-jebaited-bait-i-got-jebaited-gif-1296286127798996733

[glacial wind]

Finally got confirmation from kprepublic themselves instead of having to piece it together from vague messages with the other aliexpress store. Other store is indeed their choice store run by aliexpress directly

[old sapphire]

😂it’s because it’s good lmao you buster

https://tenor.com/view/intruder-lowtiergod-kys-gif-6701652745585782902

[shut adder]

What is the best of these in your opinion then? @stone flax

[stone flax]

sound and feel
or stability

choose

[shut adder]

I don't care about price, I want it as soon as possible and the one with the sound that has in Banana Split

[stone flax]

Thats not happening in HE

[shut adder]

wym?

I play Fortnite seriously so I need a keyboard that respognates fast, I like the noise of the Akka V3 Creamy too

[kind helm]

there is a magnet in the he switch unlike mx ones, so its gonna sound different

[tawdry tree]

Switches do not affect latency.

[kind helm]

(in a meaningful way)

[shut adder]

But I talk about the pressure I have to put to activate the key

[kind helm]

configurable as mj has mentioned.

[tawdry tree]

If you want lighter, you can get lighter switches or just lighter springs and swap them yourself (it takes a while to do).

[shut adder]

but is there no way I can have a CREABY sound on a magnetic keyboard?

[tawdry tree]

CREABY!

[tawdry tree]

You can check out some sound tests/comparisons on Youtube to see which sound profile you like. Wooting has done a few.

[stone flax]

CREABY!

[shut adder]

creamy

[shut adder]

okay

Does it make much difference to a magnetic switch compared to a banana split switch?\

[kind helm]

https://youtu.be/xFCu2hSg-oQ?feature=shared&t=113

[tawdry tree]

How do you mean?

I’ve never used or heard those switches so can’t say if there’s anything similar. I doubt it though.

[glacial wind]

What they’re trying to say is basically that there’s no such thing as a thocky creamy sounding he switch in terms of what ‘thocky’ means for you

[kind helm]

cf plate church XDDDDDDD

[shut adder]

https://en.akkogear.com/product/akko-v3-cream-yellow-switch-45pcs/\

[glacial wind]

There is no HE switch with that sound signature

[shut adder]

oh i see

[cyan lark]

🙏

[shut adder]

Does the magnetic switch make much difference to play competitively?

[glacial wind]

Yes and no. More stable = less deadzone by a very small amount

[kind helm]

[glacial wind]

if you care about that then buy ttc magneto pom switches, but be aware that they sound nothing close to your old switches and are the loudest, highest pitch switches in HE

[shut adder]

But is the activation point of normal switches enough to play competitively?

[glacial wind]

none of it will impact your ability to play Fortnite. It’s just a very minor deadzone difference of like 0.1mm

[shut adder]

Are all TTC switches magnetic and customizable in software?

[kind helm]

enjoying some taco, thank you for answering for me

[glacial wind]

none of the features change between switches

[shut adder]

I saw videos on youtube and liked the sounds of some switches of this brand

[kind helm]

trying to cure my depression with taco

[tawdry tree]

Some magnetic switches of TTC?

[glacial wind]

No.

[shut adder]

yes

i think so

[tawdry tree]

TTC has magnetic switches which offer the exact same features as Wooting’s switches.

The features come from the board itself rather than from the switches. If that makes sense?

[stone flax]

i dont think it does

@shut adder buy a switch, settings stay same

[tawdry tree]

🤪

[stone flax]

none of those switches are CREABY

😞

[shut adder]

ttc or jaden ?

[tawdry tree]

🤪🤪

[stone flax]

😞

[wheat mortar]

Hi guys, the wooting isn't in stock at the moment (ISO German) but ANSI is, should I just cop the module and get myself an case, switches keycaps etc since I wanna mod it anyways?

[chilly mural]

Looks like a snake

[kind helm]

sorry couldn't hear you through a mouth full of goodness

[cyan lark]

Did you bring enough for the whole class?

[kind helm]

never, they can watch

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/oliver-twist-1948-please-sir-i-want-some-more-please-sir-i-want-some-more-gif-2228167917865608284

[harsh dove]

That... is not a keyboard

Were you like excited taking that photo? Why's it blurry

[kind helm]

me hand dirty, using pinky finger to hold up my phone :3

[kind helm]

that... is much better than keyboard

[inland jetty]

hey guys, have you guys tried any mouse skates slower than obsidian air pros?

[kind helm]

https://geonworks.kr/product/예약판매-frog-mini-leggera-케이스-단품/426/

[tawdry tree]

If that’s within your budget and you enjoy assembling things, then yeah, for sure.

[harsh dove]

ANSI is superior and easier to get stuff for esp if you're modding so yes

[wheat mortar]

I need ISO tho :c

[harsh dove]

No you don't

you need ANSI

[wheat mortar]

I do 😔

[harsh dove]

Howcome

[wheat mortar]

cause ansi scary

[harsh dove]

Nah

Superior

wrong S word

[wheat mortar]

different hotkeys tho

scari

[harsh dove]

You'll get used to it

[wheat mortar]

would take yeaaars

[harsh dove]

[kind helm]

probably more like days

[wheat mortar]

that's the same thing basically 🙄

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Definitely

[wheat mortar]

so ansi easier to mod?

[kind helm]

i got so used to 60 layout when i swap to 75 layout boards my fingers still automatically looking for fn keys

but it just takes a few moment to get used to it

[harsh dove]

Trust get ANSI, then you'll realize you shoulda been using that from the beginning

[cyan lark]

But that big fun enter key...

[harsh dove]

no

[cyan lark]

...but maybe yes?

[tawdry tree]

Doesn’t really matter, keycaps might be slightly harder to find depending on your layout.

[wheat mortar]

y'all scarying me 😔

[tawdry tree]

Slightly -> Extremely difficult.*

[harsh dove]

You just have more options with ANSI

[tawdry tree]

What’s your layout?

[wheat mortar]

I tried looking around for qwertz layout keycaps and they're so bad to find

[tawdry tree]

Yes 😂

[cyan lark]

That is true, also I'm just trolling, I use ANSI but I'm also in US 🤷

[tawdry tree]

I use ANSI but I’m in the Eu.

[kind helm]

to be fair, these people in way too deep, both of them have at least a closet full of keyboard things they "switch out from time to time"

[wheat mortar]

I just don't want to switch just because of the different hotkey layouts n stuff

[vapid oracle]

True

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/suspicious-eyes-chicken-squinting-despicable-me-gif-12007387362870526755

[tawdry tree]

I’d try to find keycaps you like first and if you don’t find any, you can always use Woot’s

[wheat mortar]

my idea was to get the keyboard itself with white keycaps, switch out the case and some switches, but the whole keyboard would take at least +1 month to get shipped so I wanted to get the module instead and just buy everything else

[tawdry tree]

Yeah that’s fine. It will be slightly more costs but also more unique.

It’s very easy to assemble everything.

[wheat mortar]

yeah I don't really mind about the cost, just want it to be done asap

[glacial wind]

Is this 60he+ module?

[wheat mortar]

sounds good might just gonna pull up any youtube video

[tawdry tree]

Yeah.

[harsh dove]

Wooting has videos on how to assemble if you need

[glacial wind]

module is nicer anyway, you get that pc plate and screw in stabs

[kind helm]

optimum keyboard?

[wheat mortar]

wut

[kind helm]

wait nvm that s44t sold out, right?

or like slow af

[glacial wind]

Optimum keyboard on mega wait now, it’s like march for folks who want it

[harsh dove]

They asking about getting module vs prebuilt

but dont wanna wait

[kind helm]

i was just thinking of a board that is easy to just use and everything works well without hassle

[glacial wind]

Before it was just keycaps but now I think even just case is march

[harsh dove]

oh

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[wheat mortar]

who

[harsh dove]

you

[tawdry tree]

Late March

[glacial wind]

The only thing I wish they’d change in future for optimum style case is make a matte back instead of the silver plate

[wheat mortar]

prebuilt would be like mid feb?

[glacial wind]

The silver plate looks great but those things are a pain to keep clean and free from nicks

[harsh dove]

Dependin on where you are but yeah

[wheat mortar]

Germany

[kind helm]

if there is friction pad and silicone covers in the module, then just do module + tofu60 + lekkerv2/raw he/jade pro

[tawdry tree]

It says it’s in stock for me.

(Netherlands)

so it should be for you as well.

[wheat mortar]

and the module seems to be in stock so why not just get everything by myself and build it since I wanted to switch some stuff anyway and it's a nice new experience anywa<y

[harsh dove]

Yeah, we recommend you get the module instead

comes with PC plate and screw in stabs as well

[tawdry tree]

Oh ISO, ofc.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah mb

[wheat mortar]

yeah appreciate it, ima def look around and try to find keycaps I like

[kind helm]

module is 100% better if you wish to mod it later on

[wheat mortar]

and prob just go with the tofu redux case

[harsh dove]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

Can use this link for a list of websites in your region

[kind helm]

@tawdry tree eu ali good? tofu on ali probably cheap too

[tawdry tree]

Cheaper on maxgaming depending where in the Eu you’re from.

For Germany, max is cheaper probably.

[wheat mortar]

I do can access it

[harsh dove]

huh

[wheat mortar]

ohh

you edited ur message I was confused

appreciate the link

[harsh dove]

oh lol yeah no problem

[wheat mortar]

any recommendations on white / babyblue keycaps ? (tbh just any white would work too)

can't find proper ones

[kind helm]

wait tf is this price

i paid 300 like 3 months ago

[harsh dove]

1. Its random
2. its B stock

So makes sense

[kind helm]

99 though

[harsh dove]

and its case only I'm assuming

not a full kit

[visual ore]

Random and B Stock

[kind helm]

this beats optimeh and alumeh easy in my book

[visual ore]

Case only as well

No PCB

[tawdry tree]

Try from Akko maybe? I think they have ISO german and are of quality

[harsh dove]

No carry case

[wheat mortar]

I just was on their site

[visual ore]

Also no refunds

[harsh dove]

I paid $220 for a full Salvation kit

[visual ore]

So you better like what you get

[kind helm]

carry case overrated, that case the size of my 75% case. never thought i'd say this, but wooting better

[harsh dove]

I'm just saying its part of the price

[kind helm]

true

[tawdry tree]

Carry case is not bad

[kind helm]

the fr4 plate from salvation kit is fancy too

[harsh dove]

and yeah tbh thats one of my most used carry cases lol

the salvun one

[tawdry tree]

I think the 80HE’s carry case is from the same manu, at least it looks like it.

[harsh dove]

80he case is solid too

Haven't thoroughly inspected it though

[kind helm]

@harsh dove with your salvation, you put mx or he?

[harsh dove]

MX

[kind helm]

i kinda feel it i should grab a pcb for 40, the one i brought has everything other than the pcb (so plate & carry case only)

its like 15 dollars off right now

[harsh dove]

Is it the Avocado PCB?

[tawdry tree]

If it has everything but the PCB, definitely.

[kind helm]

yee

[harsh dove]

Yeah its a good PCB

[kind helm]

mainly because i feel like after the sticky rice thing i tried, it is not too impressive

but of course sticky rice v1 maybe the salvation for the salvation

[tawdry tree]

The loudness wasn’t impressive? 😂

[inland jetty]

yo bois, do u guys know of any skates slower than the obsidian air pros?

[tawdry tree]

🙏

[kind helm]

arriving 1/7, same day as my jst cable

[inland jetty]

or any Control skates for glass/hard pads?

[tawdry tree]

I’m not a mouse guy

[harsh dove]

Spacebar is a little tinny, been meaning to fix that

[kind helm]

oh yea, i never heard any keyboard as loud (but of course as a thocker back in the day i mainly use pc plate)

[harsh dove]

GMK Olivia with Kailh BCP's and Alu plate

[kind helm]

think if you center the pcb a bit better it may improve

not sure if you did already :3

and thanks for the sound test ❤️

[harsh dove]

Yeah no problem

[harsh dove]

Yeah I gotta mess around with it

Its just the spacebar too lol not even the mod keys like CTRL, ALT, WIN

[tawdry tree]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message friction in the salv to center it! 🥰👍👍

[harsh dove]

I did that a long time ago lol

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

[tawdry tree]

You don’t do it anymore so I’ll assume it wasn’t that good?

[harsh dove]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

that video is ass but whatever

[kind helm]

it would be better than tofu/ optimum/ alumeh's friction mount, but i personally feel like its just not salvation :3

[harsh dove]

I didn't mess around with it enough and the switch options at the time weren't good lol

[tawdry tree]

It’s still bouncy, that’s good

[harsh dove]

might be better now

[tawdry tree]

Yeah makes sense

[harsh dove]

plus I also have more plates to mess with too

as well as switches

[tawdry tree]

I think copper slag would be shit for friction but I might try it

[tawdry tree]

Sounds like a plan to me.

[harsh dove]

Wonder if the FF pad would work with it

[tawdry tree]

I think it would

The salv and Tofu have a similar amount of room around the PCB/Module

[harsh dove]

I'll have to test it

[kind helm]

yee or nah

[tawdry tree]

Eh

[kind helm]

50 dollars gmk base kit

[tawdry tree]

It’s not for me

[tawdry tree]

NovelKeys has crazy discounts

[kind helm]

nvm this one

[tawdry tree]

I like that.

[kind helm]

think would be great for my tofu

[harsh dove]

Aint that GMK Parcel or sumn

[tawdry tree]

ye

[harsh dove]

thought so

[tawdry tree]

Red blue and white go well together

🇳🇱

😉

[ionic breach]

nah canada for sure

[harsh dove]

lol

[ionic breach]

the arrows look like the maple leaf

[tawdry tree]

real

[shut adder]

best PCB for HE switches?

[tawdry tree]

define best

[ionic breach]

why that way round?

[shut adder]

wym

[tawdry tree]

I think just best HE PCB

[harsh dove]

Wooting60HE, Wooting80HE, Venom60HE, thats all I got for ya

[ionic breach]

alr lmao

[shut adder]

only the PCB

[tawdry tree]

60HE+ Module and Venom60 PCB?

[harsh dove]

All 3 that I named you can get PCB only

if you want

[shut adder]

oh okay

i will get the venom

[chilly mural]

There's also venom tkl

[tawdry tree]

Why do you want just the PCB?

[harsh dove]

true

[kind helm]

i think i just randomly spent 300 dollars again keyboard again

well all good

[shut adder]

But is it compatible with the Gateron Jaden Pro Switch?

[harsh dove]

Yes

[visual ore]

This one is clean

[harsh dove]

Jaden Smith Switches

[tawdry tree]

Yes but its features will differ from Wooting’s.

[visual ore]

Not a fan of the words on the caps though

Would been cool if they used symbols

[tawdry tree]

Esc as “Open” doesn’t sit right with me.

[visual ore]

Yeah

Enter is Return?

[harsh dove]

Yeah thats common

[shut adder]

What features?

[kind helm]

not a big deal to me. key caps are like things i glance over from time to time

but i am interested in trying my first gmk

[harsh dove]

That's how I was feeling when modding my 80HE and looking at CF plates and TTC POMs

[tawdry tree]

The kinda features you buy a HE board for in the first place. Venom has RT, and Mod Tap(?) but not DKS for example.

[harsh dove]

then I also bought a new mouse yesterday

[uneven cradle]

What'd ya get

[kind helm]

i brought a tofu 2.0 180, rice v1 50, then keycaps and pcb 100. 330

[harsh dove]

Viper V3 Pro for $119

[uneven cradle]

Pretty good deal

[harsh dove]

yeye

$40 off

[kind helm]

have a bunch of plates waiting to be tested at home. just waiting for the second venom pcb

[harsh dove]

idk what these numbers mean Mason but yes

[visual ore]

Waiting for any of my parts to come T.T

[kind helm]

i have so much s44t i think i should start selling some stuff

[tawdry tree]

$

[visual ore]

All I have are TTC POM switches

[harsh dove]

ah

[visual ore]

Where is my keyboard T.T

[tawdry tree]

his wallet is crying

[fluid ravine]

Type shi type shi

[harsh dove]

Yeah thanks to this guy ^

he helped

[ionic breach]

👑

[kind helm]

time to mute every keyboard channel

yep

xD

[harsh dove]

wtf

[ionic breach]

[tawdry tree]

You paid as much for switches as you would for 3 keyboards

[harsh dove]

yall some NPCs

[shut adder]

Is there any more PCB for 60%? There's no Venomancer anywhere

[ionic breach]

kinda cheating ngl

its switches

ofc it will be the most

[visual ore]

?

[fluid ravine]

The fuggg

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[visual ore]

Only spent $150 on switches so far

[shut adder]

Is there any more PCB for 60%? There's no Venomancer anywhere

[polar girder]

geon free worldwide shipping on order over $60 is crazyt

[uneven cradle]

Damn why he gotta do this to my wallet again

[kind helm]

^ this is why i need to start muting keyboard channels

LOLOLOL

bruh

[harsh dove]

wait...

you spend $150 on switches and don't have a keyboard yet?

[fluid ravine]

THEY DON'T LOVE ME LIKE I LOVE YOU
WAIT

[kind helm]

@tropic urchin sound familar

[visual ore]

Hahah yup xD

[fluid ravine]

✋

[tawdry tree]

Rakka which are impossible to get but are really good.

[visual ore]

Granted one set was for a different keyboard

And not the Wooting

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-1177376989323896638

[fluid ravine]

Saay waaaat

[harsh dove]

Ah

[fluid ravine]

[harsh dove]

that makes it a bit better

[tawdry tree]

🤨

[visual ore]

Won a case and board from the giveaways last week on the mechanical keyboard reddit thread so wanted to put something together for that.

[kind helm]

oh yea i remember seeing your name

"who is this lucky mf"

[visual ore]

Hahaha XD

[fluid ravine]

[visual ore]

Everything I need been purchased. It's just a waiting game now

[kind helm]

low key i think you should get something there and make sure to grab the jst cable since you are getting venom

[tawdry tree]

Thank you twice, I didn’t know my notis were off for Geon

[shut adder]

where i can find the venom pcb?

[tawdry tree]

AliExpress might be the fastest

depending where you’re from.

[kind helm]

korea/ china, aka geon site, some korea site, ali and taobao

[uneven cradle]

Well maybe it's time to pick one up with free worldwide shipping 👀

[chilly mural]

ooo

[kind helm]

dont think they have it on the official world wide site, but me maybe wrong

[polar girder]

correct

not in stock

https://geon.works/collections/venom60he

it was on pre-order in nov

[uneven cradle]

Well guess I'll wait for cafege to get stock

[polar girder]

No

prob after fulfillment end of january if any

[shut adder]

usa

[kind helm]

you can pray for left overs or just grab from ali or taobao or some other korea sites (but if you are not in kr you probably need some middle man to do the purchase and shipping for you)

[stone flax]

after fullfilment

[kind helm]

think mr bisly brought from ali

[shut adder]

alr

[polar girder]

no i haven't bought yet actually lol

have it on cart on ALi

[kind helm]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message here is where i brought mine

you can switch to english on top of the web page

[polar girder]

trying to figure out plate material preference first

[kind helm]

and make sure to pick HongKong DHL for shipping, its more expensive but it works and its fast

better than gambling on random shipping companies

[chilly mural]

when discount?

[stone flax]

at the very least jan-feb

[polar girder]

Event Schedule:
From Tuesday, January 14, 2025 9:00 PM to Thursday, January 30, \2025 9:00 PM (automatically adjusts to your time zone).\

[chilly mural]

perfecto

[visual ore]

CF seems to have a following in the chat

[stone flax]

Oh hey its time to buy 9 million raw he’s

[polar girder]

fk cf

respectfullyt

Im just debating between nylon or pp

[visual ore]

I'm just telling you how it is xD

[kind helm]

you doing hypekeyboard thingy right?

[polar girder]

yeah

[kind helm]

i pray that it works nicely for you, may try that later on

lucifer?

[stone flax]

meh

retool of graingold box/deng gods

[kind helm]

sno tested it, you can search, but yee its meh

[stone flax]

so expect middling sound and performance

[kind helm]

did it get more expensive?

i remember it was .13 or something before

[stone flax]

twas not

[visual ore]

Woah the price is nice though

[stone flax]

if you dont like the wobble/chatter from jades

[visual ore]

It was .13 before?

Even better

[kind helm]

brain no work, thanks for correction UwU

[stone flax]

then keep it

[swift lintel]

Anyone know of good stabilizers for the wooting he 60 + mines sound really bad i currently have the jades and the optimum case

[kind helm]

tune it

[stone flax]

Tune it

[swift lintel]

Not sure how new to the keyboard scene

[stone flax]

ye

[kind helm]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[stone flax]

https://youtu.be/vxHb6CJc9V8?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/xlSIIZqyQR0

[swift lintel]

Perfect thank you I was just also getting ready to buy some geon raw he so this will save me some money

[tawdry tree]

Do I buy the X-Ray Cable for $105? It won’t be sold in the Eu anymore.

[polar girder]

where you change to DHL tho?

i mean i have it at $67 rn but no shipping cost

it's great deal

[stone flax]

? Didnt you just say you had jade

[kind helm]

so when you buy from that site, it goes to their warehouse first. then you pick shipping.

that free shipping is most likely from store to warehouse

[swift lintel]

Yea ngl i already hand lubed and they sound pretty meh

[polar girder]

this website confusing af ngl

[kind helm]

it would probably take at least 2 weeks, the items arrive to their warehouse in around 2-3 days. then someone package it in 1 day, then dhl get it to you in 5 days

[polar girder]

😵‍💫

[kind helm]

no argument from me there hehe

[tawdry tree]

least confusing forwarder website

[glacial wind]

don't forget plate

[polar girder]

well i need plate for frog

[kind helm]

he making custom ones through us

[glacial wind]

ah

[polar girder]

idc how long it takes TBh

[kind helm]

just make sure to not gamble on random ass shipping company, even if you dont care about speed. my first package got lost. had to wait extra long for them to confirm its gone and give me a refund (not even sure if they do that to everyone or the guy was being cool)

[glacial wind]

geon getting his n680 samples in too now

for finally a low angle clean tkl metal case from him

[polar girder]

The one Josh linked

I might just do Ali idk

Order my Raw at same time

[glacial wind]

if you're going to do ali just buy direct from geon naver site using korean reshipper

you'd at least get more plate options etc then

[polar girder]

Huh?

Geon naver site?

[glacial wind]

yeah geon is korean so taobao/superbuy etc are actually just buying from geon then reselling then superbuy resells 2nd time lol

[harsh dove]

wtf 105?

why is it 105

[kind helm]

honesty i think either should work. i just throw the link out since the store owner that sells the pcb is hella nice to me and answered a bunch of my stupid questions xD

[glacial wind]

so what some folks do is just buy direct from geons korean store which has more plate options anyway

like the frog plates

just that the shipping from korean reshipper is usually pricy

[kind helm]

yea, but they didn't up the price by a lot which is wonderful (maybe just from like us standard..)

[stone flax]

Time to buy ten trillion raw he (shipping was free and they were ten percent off)

[harsh dove]

https://koreabuyandship.com/ Yeah like Sno had me use this site before for a screw tray from KR

worked out well and was easy

[shut adder]

Does Venom60he PCB work with the TOFU60 Redux case?

[glacial wind]

yeah you'd just tray mount

[kind helm]

i am saving that for later, thanks

[shut adder]

So for me to buy my plate, I have to buy by searching for the name of which one? From the PCB or the Case

[glacial wind]

you are 100% not the recommended user for venom though honestly

[polar girder]

lol

bro that website also hella confusing

god i hate this stuff lol

[kind helm]

imagine you can just click the iteam and buy things

[shut adder]

wym

whu

why

[visual ore]

Share some with me all right

[glacial wind]

because you seem to need lots of support and aftersales

[shut adder]

fr

[glacial wind]

you do not get that if you superbuy a venom

[harsh dove]

Honestly, I just contacted their CS and they responded pretty quickly and I just sent screenshots of what I wanted and they ordered it for me

[shut adder]

Polycarbonate Plate Aluminum Black Plate

which one

[kind helm]

unless you speak chinese and can find their QQ

[glacial wind]

yeah lol

[glacial wind]

tl;dr with that site is you find what you want on geons naver site, send them link and the item and they buy it

[shut adder]

or carbon fiber

[polar girder]

what is geon naver site

lol i'm so lost

[shut adder]

Polycarbonate , Aluminum or Carbor Fiber plate?

[glacial wind]

https://smartstore.naver.com/geonlab - venom60 isn't listed as instock until next week though

[visual ore]

I lost track of this conversation a while ago lol

[glacial wind]

he just got big batch of venom60 in for korea stock

this is the venom stuff page: https://smartstore.naver.com/geonlab/category/baf122ce7c77481aa91a6e69fd05194c?cp=1

[kind helm]

did you like have a chance to talk to people from geon? i wish they sell more venom internationally on 2025. i hope less people get old wooting so they can finally be pushed to upgrade their pcb

[polar girder]

he makes copper plates?

[glacial wind]

kprepublic finally officially responded btw. So both the 2nd store and official kprepublic support confirmed the 2nd store stuff is all legit

[polar girder]

yea no plastic tho

[tawdry tree]

Because UKnians had to be stubborn and leave the Eu, so the price is high because of import and shipping..

[glacial wind]

yeah geon himself talks to folks all the time

[visual ore]

Oh yeah forgot to mention that

They got back to me last night >.<

[harsh dove]

Geez

it is a nice cable tho

[tawdry tree]

yeah I do want it

[glacial wind]

he doesn't really do much international stuff though beyond initial group buys. The international sales is a bit more of an afterthought and he prioritizes korea stuff

wooting is already upgrading their pcb, there's no need to be 'pushed' towards it lol

[kind helm]

i want faster, i want more

[glacial wind]

they're basically limited in speed by their team, not by competition

[polar girder]

yeah i need 8k

[chilly mural]

me likey rgb, wooting have rgb, venom nah, so me likey wooting moar

[glacial wind]

they only have so many design engineers etc

[kind helm]

i thought its more like a prediction still at this point.

[sacred elm]

damn, how dare they buy 1ms pcb when you can get 0.125 venom

[tawdry tree]

yeappp

[kind helm]

since there no actual statement about it to from my understanding

[polar girder]

the geon 60% plate foam is trash tho lol

[glacial wind]

you can read between the lines, and no sane company wouldn't already have plans for it

[kind helm]

1ms pcb that has less features and much more expensive

[harsh dove]

lemme know when you can feel that difference

[sacred elm]

Im joking btw

[harsh dove]

I know lol

hence the emojis

[kind helm]

🙏

[inland jetty]

how long do you think before 80he+? or if

[glacial wind]

the problem is like what calder said before last stream. They can never officially confirm that stuff because it may take say another 8 months for an 8k 60he for example - then you have people waiting and being angry etc because they held off buying 60he until then

[tawdry tree]

I can feel the difference but you have to tell me which one I’m playing on beforehand ✅✅

[polar girder]

lol + for what?

[tawdry tree]

60HE+Pro Max, not the 80HE+

[inland jetty]

exactly, fun to think about

[harsh dove]

Yeah, you don't wanna announce things too early, there's a time and place for everything

[polar girder]

no i'm asking

[tawdry tree]

Knob moment

[polar girder]

what is 80 missing you'd want?

[sacred elm]

well wootility will also have switch selector in future too, venom doesnt have what wooting already has now, what less features are you talking

[polar girder]

Yeah i want 8k, south facing caps lock LED, and 7u

[glacial wind]

people way over prioritise 8k stuff too. I'm way more interested in them fine tuning accuracy etc than 8k

[polar girder]

i might just wait and do this then

[inland jetty]

nothing in particular tbh. Maybe im in the minority on this but a volume knob and an oled screen LMAOI

[tawdry tree]

Knobbers SoonTM (surely)

[harsh dove]

It's also not that much more expensive, you're getting screw in stabs , plate, and dampening materials for the module, you only get a PCB with the venom

[sacred elm]

Lol, Im ultra mega gamer I need that 0.12ms input delay

[glacial wind]

i'd be waaaay more interested in them adding 0.05 rt for example to mess around with, vs. caring about 8k and other nonsense that doesn't matter

[kind helm]

not huge fan of 8k either but technically doesn't 8k automatically should result in a more accurate response due to the higher sanning rate

[harsh dove]

Yeah thats the thing too, 8k literally doesn't matter

Accuracy more important

[polar girder]

venom not accurate or what am i missing here

[inland jetty]

the most important question of all

"can you take advantage of it"

[glacial wind]

at this stage people the 'accuracy' gained solely from 8k scan etc is pretty meh

[harsh dove]

Its all diminishing returns

[kind helm]

true the other side of the coin is like calibration type stuff

[glacial wind]

like if you see the chinese boards that fake accuracy rankings for the m6+ etc - it's all just super worthless specs for being accurate at 0.00001 vs 0.0000000001

which no one is even using

[inland jetty]

it just seems like we're splitting microseconds at this point

[polar girder]

yeah we are

I want all the ms

[inland jetty]

that is fair though for comp gfaming

[tawdry tree]

I think 0.1mm actuation point vs 0.01mm (if it’s possible) would have a bigger impact on latency than 8K does.

[inland jetty]

100%

[harsh dove]

You're splitting down timings that humans can't even feel

[quasi hinge]

Agree with you on the volume knob

[tawdry tree]

Is the knob just forgotten?

[glacial wind]

nah calder made hints about it

[kind helm]

probably impossible to do unless a certain setup is required to use that type of setting

[glacial wind]

but that it's a lot of work and fine tuning to get it right for how they want to implement it

[tawdry tree]

It’d be borderline unusable but in theory, I think it’d be faster.

[harsh dove]

yeah tbh

[inland jetty]

yep and even if they can feel it, can they actually take advantage of it? Only a very small minority probably could, prodigy types

[kind helm]

it would be very useful actually, not for activation of the key but for the rapid trigger i think

[tawdry tree]

true

would need an incredibly stable switch too.

[glacial wind]

i think about 0.05mm is probably as low as i think is stably usable with super stable switch

[kind helm]

yea probably require tray mount + stiff plate

[quasi hinge]

Dont underestimate autists lol

[kind helm]

because to a certain point tiny flex = fck up

[harsh dove]

https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/ - not completly accurate but you can simply just go based off something like this, and realize, nobody is feeling that difference

[tawdry tree]

stiff plate for sure, tray, maybe.

[glacial wind]

there's some sketchy reviewers out there too that have been pumping up fake spec data and saying they can 'feel' the difference

[harsh dove]

I bet lol

[tawdry tree]

What were TTCs again? Like +/- 0.07?

[inland jetty]

yeah man, I need that. I am biased towards cramming in more features so im sure im in the minority in terms of the OLED screen. IDK how they would go about it but it would be a nice touch

[glacial wind]

like one of them was saying they could feel the difference between venom focus mode vs no focus mode, which is like 0.12ms vs 0.15ms or whatever it is

[harsh dove]

placebo

[glacial wind]

which is the most absurd statement ever

[sacred elm]

lol

[tawdry tree]

That’s cause they enable the focus mode

[harsh dove]

I turned such and such on so I MUST feel it

[glacial wind]

no human can notice the difference lol

[inland jetty]

some prodigies are in the spectrum for sure

[tawdry tree]

if they let someone else do it, they wouldn’t know

[glacial wind]

ttc is stable to 0.01mm or so they claim

[harsh dove]

yeah if they did a blind test, wouldnt know at all

[glacial wind]

but every board i've seen try to do true 0.01mm has been a shitshow of unusability lol

even melgeeks made68 pro which is one of the top chinese boards doing 0.01mm is having issues getting true 0.01mm to be usable

[inland jetty]

what do you mean?

[quasi hinge]

I feel like the screen is something that can date a board fast and its just one extra thing that is unnecessary. To me screens feel like a gimmick… the light bar implementation was fantastic, I use it more than I thought I would

Could easily swap a key for a knob

[polar girder]

yeah i flucuate between 180 and 220ms

[kind helm]

i am not 100% sure actually, because with mouse i can almost certainly feel the difference, but whether that is due to the increasingly inaccurate high dpi or due to the pooling rate i don't know. (for high pooling rate, you need higher dpi in order to really use the full 8k)

[harsh dove]

Well I'm saying that site is not completely accurate cause of things like monitor refresh rate n stuff but you can get an idea of human reaction time and realize that those microseconds won't make a difference in a keyboard

[tawdry tree]

Oh damn, yeah it might actually be true. In the HM test it showed 0.007 rather than 0.07. #🔧│keyboard_modding message

For bottom out that is.

[glacial wind]

honestly i think for wooting i'd be happy if they get to 0.05mm rt and call it a day and focus on stability and accuracy beyond that

[polar girder]

so what's more accurate and quickest? raw and venom or KoM and venom or KoM and wooting or what

[quasi hinge]

Lemokey did a great job with the volume knob

(Keychron)

[tawdry tree]

definitely

[kind helm]

for me i am already happy with the settings they have right now, anything faster is too close to copium. i just care about the daughter board + 7U

[polar girder]

even if we are splitting hairs and diminishing returns

[glacial wind]

theoretically they'll be the same in next major update outside of the number of keys scanning difference

[harsh dove]

Yeah don't put screens on Keyboard, they don't belong imo, nobody is staring down at their keeb

whats that one board that had a screen

one of the Apex Pros

[tawdry tree]

APEX PROO

[quasi hinge]

Totally agree

And extra light pollution lol

[sacred elm]

apex pro better

[tawdry tree]

I love dead pixels on my keyboard’s screen

[glacial wind]

basically tl;dr is right now you can get almost 0 deadzone with wooting + kom rgb/pom, but your rt will be 0.15. Venom is 0 deadzone and 0.1rt, so it'd be the 0.05 difference until simon pushes out the next major wooting update that would be switch selector + 0.1rt

[kind helm]

if it fits the layout nicely it does look good though

its like that led bar on 80he, useful not really, but kinda cool for some certainly

[polar girder]

but what with venom switches dont matter?

[harsh dove]

in other words Bigsly you won't notice

[chilly mural]

ooo, I wonder when that be

[quasi hinge]

Some will like it some wont

I understand screen is a pref… just not more me

[chilly mural]

Could be this month, could be next month~

[glacial wind]

venom is optimized for raw he and doesn't apply as safe a margin as wooting so you can set 0 deadzone on raw he

[sacred elm]

soon

[quasi hinge]

They should make a wooting and/or case where you have provisions for screen volume knob etc that is optional

[inland jetty]

if we're being technical here im 99.9% agreing with you hahaha. The only difference in our opinion i think is that, I think there are a very very few outliers that can actually feel and take advantage of these things. It can also be due to various things like you mentioned right such as monitor refresh rate etc etc. At the end of the day, most of us shouldnt even worry about it

[kind helm]

really? i thought they have profiles and stuff for different switches

[sacred elm]

they are collecting data on switches to add switch selector and Simon said 0.1rt is coming with it also.

[polar girder]

yeah this sounds like the move for me

[visual ore]

That's pretty cool

[glacial wind]

yeah they do, what I mean is that raw he in particular is very optimized on venom because it's his main stock switch that's used for a lot of testing etc

[harsh dove]

I'm agreeing with you too, however I don't know if there would really be any human who can truly take advantage of it with so many variables at play

[kind helm]

true, make sense

[chilly mural]

I feel like we better have monitor reaching 1k hz first

considering 8khz can be 'enough'.

[harsh dove]

waiting patiently for 10,000Hz monitors

[inland jetty]

agreed, too many variables to really know

[kind helm]

go back to 500hz mouse pooling rate then

[glacial wind]

well basically it's a bit of a question of do you want to offer 0 deadzone only on the most stable switch or do you want to offer it on all switches, even if it might not be optimal or recommended

[chilly mural]

not reinstalling hub just for that

[glacial wind]

wooting leans towards safe margin for consistency, which honestly may be the correct choice for the average gamer

[harsh dove]

Yep tbh

[visual ore]

With how unoptimized games have been unlikely we will be able to take advantage

T.T

[harsh dove]

Nah wym, I optimize games myself these days

Devs just release the files

[kind helm]

i saw this analogy somewhere, you turn off your screen, and you move your mouse, the cursor moves regardless your monitor on or off. I think that sounds about right for pooling rate

[inland jetty]

i really like screens man. But I like apple's gimmick with their macbooks where you can use it for emojis etc

[sacred elm]

screen on wooting isnt happening unless they add second mcu for it and rgb effects in future

[harsh dove]

no screen pls

[sacred elm]

screen

[harsh dove]

Knobs = Yes
Screens = No

[inland jetty]

we're gonna go to war here

HAHAHAH

[harsh dove]

and no I don't want a combined screen knob combo

didn't the Freya do that or sumn

[kind helm]

i will bet 5 dolla that if wooting comes out with new one with screen you gonna buy it regardless

[visual ore]

Give me a slider

[harsh dove]

Yeah I don't want this either

Screen Knob Combo = No

[visual ore]

Okay this looks horrible

[kind helm]

oh hell nah

[sacred elm]

wonder how a knob will look on 80he

[inland jetty]

guys, relax its a knob

llmfao

[marsh saffron]

Knob on 60he

[inland jetty]

if any of yall have a screen oon their cpu coolers... lmfao

[visual ore]

It's very important all right!

[kind helm]

knob good, slider is werid af

[visual ore]

Knob gives life

[sacred elm]

no thanks

[kind helm]

a fat gap on your keyboard staring into your soul

[visual ore]

Slider is life at home

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/trisha-paytas-trisha-paytus-war-screaming-gif-25838750

[inland jetty]

the thing that bothers me about this is why have a knob and a slider

[uneven cradle]

The 80he doesn't need more things to draw power

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/dean-winchester-supernatural-relatable-relatablemoods-gif-7719768255809338997

Next thing you know people will want 16k keyboards and 240hz Screens on their Knobs

[glacial wind]

for real my poor pc is already on brink of not enough power

[kind helm]

wooting just gotta make a speical usb c cable for it

[visual ore]

Unironically it actually useful for me.

I use the knob to adjust engine power in some games

And also use it for editing

[kind helm]

one connect to the surge protector for power, one connect to the pc

[uneven cradle]

About to connect the keyboard via 12VHPWR

[harsh dove]

bro definitely plays Star Citizen

[harsh dove]

One day

[inland jetty]

honestly i could care less if it draws more power provided there is a solution.

if it is a big problem tho then, yeah. understandable

[kind helm]

that is actually 300 iq, because then a quick swap makes so much more sense

[glacial wind]

my poor 650w psu does it's best to put up with everything i crammed at it

[kind helm]

LMAO

[inland jetty]

goddamn in 2025

give this man an award

hot damn, now thats efficiency right there

[harsh dove]

Poor PSUs they handle all the loads and just go unrecognized

no clout

[glacial wind]

i literally once in awhile have my pc shut down because my power spiked beyond what my system can handle

[inland jetty]

according to linus theyre "equipped"" to handle that

[glacial wind]

cramming in top tier gpu and cpu really pushing limits of the poor 650w psu lol

[kind helm]

did you try undervolting

maybe can help with stability a bit

[glacial wind]

i keep telling myself I'll just upgrade everything eventually since my next cpu will have to be next gen ryzen anyway so i've held off doing anything

[visual ore]

You're kidding

No way

Although it is a pain in the ass to swap out a PSU

So actually nvm I get it

Cable Management is annoying

[glacial wind]

the problem is i'm on sffpc, so i can't just swap the psu easily - i have to buy a specific tiny psu that is the cost of just buying a 1200w full sized psu lol

[inland jetty]

the painful part are the wires if it is cramped but if it isnt, it should be easy

[visual ore]

Jesus

[kind helm]

o v e r r a t e d

[glacial wind]

so at this stage i just resigned myself to not changing anything because when i do change anything i have to swap the psu, case, motherboard, ram anyway

[harsh dove]

oof I know your pain

[glacial wind]

oh and cooler since my aio is built into the sffpc

[visual ore]

Yeah SFFPC are great until you need to change something

[harsh dove]

Yeah getting parts can be pain sometimes

and you pay a tax

[inland jetty]

jesus

[kind helm]

sffpc is not great. it only make senses i think if you thinking about moving all the time

[harsh dove]

small parts tax

[kind helm]

its still heavy af, just smaller

[visual ore]

Which is why they're great haha

[glacial wind]

my next pc will be a gigantic havn 420 or something so that I never have to worry about sizing again

[inland jetty]

may i ask why you opted with small form factor?

[harsh dove]

what I did basically lol

[quasi hinge]

Build a monolith size this time

I have the corsair 5000D

[glacial wind]

it was during covid and i was a full time streamer, so I didn't know if i'd get kicked out of korea and have to bring my pc with me. So i built a pc i could hand carry

[quasi hinge]

Love the space

[harsh dove]

Mines in a Lancool III case

[inland jetty]

legit brother, id rather a monolith made of dinosaur bones than a small ass case. That big ass case can survive many rebuilds

[inland jetty]

ahhhh thats rough

[glacial wind]

the only good point is when I do buy a new pc next year I can just make this sffpc my living room pc for movies etc

[harsh dove]

ooo thatd be cool

[visual ore]

That would be nice

[inland jetty]

yeah man, a server pc. PLex brother xD xD

[visual ore]

Put in some emulation software

[glacial wind]

i do think that havn 420 case looks cool though lol

[kind helm]

that be expensive, you gonna thinking about gaming with that pc, then you gotta buy one of those expensive tv that can handle single player game

[visual ore]

Got yourself a nice console

[glacial wind]

normally i don't like the giant glass box pc cases but the havn version looks very clean

[quasi hinge]

Can I share my pc build

[harsh dove]

Oh yeah just looked at that, not bad I like the rear design for the rear fan mounts and the bottom seems nicely designed too

[inland jetty]

let's see it bro 😄

[kind helm]

wait is this a keyboard modding channel

[inland jetty]

the keyboard will be in the picture man come on

[glacial wind]

yeah it's the most popular new case this year for sure. Seems the build quality is apple level too so all the case reviewers were impressed with the details

[quasi hinge]

Unfortunately not…

[inland jetty]

fucking put a lube brush in the picture for technicality's sake LMFAO

[quasi hinge]

It will be when the Lazar 80he is done

[harsh dove]

Technically we supposed to be in #🔌│tech but we'll live , this channel diversifies sometimes

[glacial wind]

it's just so clean looking with the curved glass too

[visual ore]

Oooh that case

[quasi hinge]

AIO is ryujin iii now

[polar girder]

Nice. I think i have same one

5000D?

[harsh dove]

Did Steve do a review ?

from GN

I assume so

[glacial wind]

yeah they did, it went super viral

[inland jetty]

thats a big boy

[harsh dove]

Oh sweet lemme go check it then

[kind helm]

you keeping it so clean

[quasi hinge]

Yesss

[kind helm]

W

[inland jetty]

no gpu sag

[harsh dove]

With the case I have I feel like I never have to upgrade but I wouldn't mind lookin at this one

[quasi hinge]

No ED for my card lol

[harsh dove]

I didn't even notice it was curved tbh that is nice

[chilly mural]

Looks nice, enough space for a 2nd gpu too as usual

[kind helm]

SLI 2025?

[uneven cradle]

I need one of these https://ncased.com/products/m2-ac168

[inland jetty]

i have a similar'ish looking case but the front is a little different. my case is from lian li

[quasi hinge]

I think they dont do SLI anymore

[harsh dove]

Ncases are nice

[chilly mural]

nah, just a secondary gpu for extra vram for AI

[glacial wind]

hopperbus trying to trigger my sffpc ptsd

[inland jetty]

it was trash anyway hahaha

[chilly mural]

More vram better than ram, because running AI out of ram is SLOOW

[kind helm]

fck i gotta learn how to split the workload to 2 pc actually

[visual ore]

Literally a way to make you buy two gpus

[kind helm]

2 4090 in the lab

[quasi hinge]

They have cases now where you can build 2 PCs inside

[uneven cradle]

Need that small form factor and big cooling

[inland jetty]

omg preach good sir, my 6950xt purchase 1.5 years ago was worth xD

[visual ore]

Then they realize they could just charge you 2x the price for one

[harsh dove]

yeah SLI / NV Link was never good for gaming tbh

[quasi hinge]

Only a few games supported it

[harsh dove]

That too

[chilly mural]

if I slot in another 3060, I can play the big boi AI at an acceptable compression level

[kind helm]

i thought about this one actually, the terra. but i knew its gonna be a bitch to clean it

[chilly mural]

need a case that can support 3 gpu tho

[quasi hinge]

My advice is go for a nice big case, will last long, easy to clean, easy to build

[harsh dove]

Need GMK Botantical to go with this

[inland jetty]

i was getting clowned for getting the 6950xt over the 3080/4070 but man im so glad i did

[quasi hinge]

Unless they do the reverse MOBOs

[kind helm]

was never good.

[inland jetty]

this, especially if youre a beginner builder. Dealing with wires on a small case...

[chilly mural]

16gb is all that you need

[inland jetty]

yeah... im not really sure anymore with games nowadays

[quasi hinge]

Depends on resolution

[kind helm]

6950xt value king

[uneven cradle]

Wires aren't that bad if you plan ahead, or copy someone who has planned ahead already

[harsh dove]

Nvidia has nice features but yeah that VRAM would've been rough

[chilly mural]

I play at 720/900p, so 16gb is not bad for me

[visual ore]

My Case is the Fractal Torrent Compact. Love this thing.

[kind helm]

700 dollas card that dunk on 4070

[inland jetty]

especially with my usecase at 2k resolution, have brave tabs open, game open etc

[visual ore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVqkCrRrsKg

[harsh dove]

Matt Lee is my guy

[chilly mural]

if I'm running out of vram, I have 3090 on standby

[harsh dove]

before I bought this case I was going to get a fractal

[visual ore]

His videos are just goddamn

[uneven cradle]

Braves tabs aren't gonna be using your vram

[harsh dove]

bbut then realized I can't put 360 Rad up top

[uneven cradle]

Just normal ram

[inland jetty]

literally. I went from 1080 to 6950xt lmfao. I juiced the fuck out of the gtx 1080. That thing was an amazing gpu. Vallue king as well

[quasi hinge]

I had a 1080 ti

[harsh dove]

Yeah I wouldn't mind making videos like him but I'd need years of practice

[kind helm]

i am waiting for the next 1080 essentially right now

price is r4t4rded rn

[quasi hinge]

I still miss it haha

[kind helm]

i want path tracing in cyberpunk

6950 i am sticking with raster

[quasi hinge]

Just wait for the 5000 series lol

[inland jetty]

you,re right. im just throwing it out there that I have many things running . Including photoshop sometimes etc.

[uneven cradle]

Yeah that's all handled with ram and maybe a few extra cpu cores/threads

[kind helm]

honestly how dare they ask for 2000 dallars then tell you to use dlss and frame gen copium

[polar girder]

I'm just hoping 5090 has full UHR80 dp2.1

[inland jetty]

im pretty sure photoshop does

[polar girder]

so we can move on from DSC

[harsh dove]

DLSS and Frame Gen is part of that $2000 lol

[polar girder]

fk both of thoser

I have both Hyperthreading and my e-cores off lol

[visual ore]

Until Nvidia gets off the AI train that ain't happening T.T

[polar girder]

and dlss and whatever else off

[visual ore]

Or unless Intel catches up

Or AMD

Software as well

[inland jetty]

sigh

[visual ore]

That too

[inland jetty]

thuis is depressing

L,MFAO

[visual ore]

Hahaha

[uneven cradle]

If you're rendering while playing games maybe, but that seems like a bad idea

[harsh dove]

Intel aint going nowhere anytime soon

[jade storm]

welcome

[quasi hinge]

Intel has a lot of catching up to do

[kind helm]

AMD has a chance, but really nah. all of the ai stuff is tested and built on nvidia stuff

[chilly mural]

AI bubble need to crash first. But that could also mean Meta, Anthropic, and OAI, Alibaba, and such won't have dick measuring contest anymore

[inland jetty]

it is sir, but you know.... LMAO... im a psycho at times and i do it

[quasi hinge]

The 13 and 14 series issues were crap

[kind helm]

even on like edge devices, nvdia get jetson nano, xavier and s44t likke that

[harsh dove]

aand they cancelled battlemage

[visual ore]

They also fired their CEO

[quasi hinge]

And suing him lol

[visual ore]

Then asked for his pay back

Like.... Intel what are you doing

[quasi hinge]

Good

They need to claw it all back

[inland jetty]

honestly i dont even know what intel and amd have to do sometimes to get ahead

[quasi hinge]

He ran that company into a wall

[kind helm]

ai for gaming is s44t but i pray ml can keep running, otherwise i be fucked in 4 years

[visual ore]

Did he though?

[harsh dove]

AMD could be doing more than they are I feel like they shoot themselves in the foot sometimes

[visual ore]

Without him the GPU wouldn't have happen

[chilly mural]

Intel need to release 24gb card for $400-500. AMD need to release a 32gb vram card for $1k

[quasi hinge]

For gaming

[quasi hinge]

A broken clock can be right twice a day

[uneven cradle]

More competitive pricing for a start especially globally both intel and AMD are pretty lacking in a lot of regions

[quasi hinge]

Maybe it was easy as nvida is focussing on ai

And giving us monopoly priced cards

[kind helm]

i just think they dont have the money, nvidia is not only popular for game but also for ai stuff so like even in work places people kinda have to buy their gpus

[inland jetty]

yeah amd releases great budget/mmid range cards at times but it never equates to good sales because of brand loyalty from nvidia fans and whatever else

[harsh dove]

AMD always prices too high in the beginning then listen to feedback, lower prices and its too late, people already made their choice

[kind helm]

which is kinda fcked. i hope AMD can catch up

[visual ore]

^

Also AMD needs to stop changing their GPU names

Just stop

Why the hell is it called 9070 now

[inland jetty]

yep, we are an after thought

[kind helm]

marketing people trying to keep their job

[chilly mural]

nvidia seems to be very consistent with the namine scheme. gtx all the way to the Goat 1080, before doing the RTX because of the new tech.

[harsh dove]

Yeah Nvidia has taken a huge lead on AI over other companies

[kind helm]

oh yea, gamer dont have money like that

[inland jetty]

but hey guys..... listen....... the more you buy....... the more you save....

[quasi hinge]

AMD chips are great while their GPUs future is in question and Intel GPUs show promise but their chips are suspect and lacking lol

[dreamy willow]

guys should i buy the plastic case and get a better looking metal case when more comes out?

[kind helm]

like who tf in their right mind buys multiple 4090s at home.

[harsh dove]

Plastic case for which board?

[kind helm]

but companies they have like whole ass rooms for them

[visual ore]

Actually their GPU future is more so in limbo at the moment

[inland jetty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=iGmROfaWg2Y&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2F lmfao

[chilly mural]

small AI business that runs big open source AI that usual people cant run.

[visual ore]

This gen is a stopgap if anything

[chilly mural]

Or to run an AI waifu for themselves

[kind helm]

also i think we are approaching bigger gpu( not just the fan but the chip)

[inland jetty]

its just depressing

[kind helm]

seem like things can't get smaller anymore

[harsh dove]

If we all buy 5090, we all save money, we all save energy

[inland jetty]

nvidia has monopoly

[harsh dove]

ez

[quasi hinge]

You will need a corsair 10,000D for future GPU big bois lol

[visual ore]

Yeah and we also get more vram!

[harsh dove]

The math is not accurate BUT it is correct

[visual ore]

Seriously speaking though my case can't handle a bigger gpu

[inland jetty]

GPU's are gonna look like wwe wrestlers, roided to the gills

[visual ore]

I already had to remove a fan for this one

[harsh dove]

[inland jetty]

i thought 16 was safe for 2k

[kind helm]

they both have 3 fans i dont see the difference

[inland jetty]

lmao

thank god

[chilly mural]

I hope future game implements AI NPC

And being able to locally run them would be nice

[polar girder]

I mean dudes are selling their 4090’s now for the same if not more than they originally paid brand new

That’s pretty wild

[quasi hinge]

Size doesnt matter lol

[harsh dove]

That’s what I was gonna do

[kind helm]

either you need big boi gpu or they gonna go through the cloud which is fucked

[inland jetty]

and the dude shes spending time with is definitely gay too

[harsh dove]

Woah

[quasi hinge]

Lmao

[chilly mural]

Prop the latter

[kind helm]

yeee a lot of mods out there for that

[visual ore]

You know how they have those external setups for GPUs?

[inland jetty]

sold my rx480 back then for $200 more during the mining craze xD

[visual ore]

That's what the future is that they want

[inland jetty]

that's what got me the gtx 1080

it is hilarious

[quasi hinge]

I will fight the cloud until my final days

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-tech-skynet-ai-arnold-gif-13186419

[visual ore]

Soon we will need a PSU just for the GPU

[inland jetty]

man yall are giving me nightmares

[quasi hinge]

I was going to make that joke lol

[inland jetty]

wheres the positivity LMAO

[quasi hinge]

In our shared laughter/humor

[harsh dove]

Here admire my 80HE with GMK Stealth